So a game about people who became an heroes?

Well, you'd need a good system for handling fights, and an abstract system for handling all the weird special abilities like "control over destiny". I can't really think of something that does both well in the right way.

It's basically Chuunibyou without the real world aspect.

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With A LOT of dildos.

I'd make them play humans and turn the tuhus into eldritch monsters. But they still look like little girls in frilly dresses. It will be a survival game.

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>>21994835

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There's only one way to play a Gensokyo campaign.

>>21994835
FATE?

Does anyone have that "Going to Gensokyo" screencap?

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>>21995010

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>>21995010
>>21995088
MY EYES. INTENSE REVULSION AND AMUSEMENT. AAARGH.

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>>21995131
Manly!Chen is second-best Chen.

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>>21994970
There's a Touhou Arkham Horror expansion.

Otherwise, just toss a band of humans in one of the dangerous locations and there's your scenario.

Make all Touhou characters NPC's, and force players to play regular fairies

>>21994970
So... exactly how the setting is, if you're not a bitchy priestess or klepto mage?

>>21995190
That's like forcing Nasuverse characters to obey all rules or Nanoha characters to stick to sane powerlevels.

>>21995213
With a DC80 Escape Artist check, Chen could retrieve that fly.

The way I see it, let player have fucking batshit crazy powers, let them use it. Then let the hammer of their own actions kill them.

Could probably have the characters affiliated with a house/faction, and then go from there.

Could be very interesting.

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No such thing as too much fluffy tail.

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>>21995288
I don't really into touhous. There are factions?

>>21995859
Factions may be a bit of an exaggeration, but eientei, sdm, mayohiga and so on are often referred to as factions.

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>>21995859
Yup!

As a main 'two sides' sort of thing, there are humans and youkai.

Further into that, there are different households that can be called factions. The Human Village, the Scarlet Devil Mansion, Eientei, Hell, etc.

I can't remember the names of all of them, but any one of them could easily be a 'starting area' for players, or just where the players call home.

>>21994835

Nobilis

How do you beat Flandre?

>clenches fist
>you die

?

>>21996000
There are far bigger threats than Flandre, not to mention she won't leave the basement.

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>>21996000
Spell card rules prevent the whole 'you die' scenario, but when it comes to the characters that can do that kind of stuff, it's best to defeat them before they can get started.

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>>21995238
Isn't that usually what happens in Gensokyo? Someone pulls some shit with their crazy powers and everyone else has to fix it?

So they have a kind of MAD going on usually?

>>21996000
>touhou
>powerlevels

You're doing it wrong, you were never meant to think about serious fights in gensokyo.

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>>21996051
They're more like incidents really, at least that's what they're usually referred to.

The incident can be harmful or even harmless in nature, and does usually involve a group trying to explore just what's going on. It can get pretty interesting.

>>21996051
You just reminded me of that awesome doujinshi where one of the girls is raped by insects.

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>>21996023
That's just fan interpretation. The books have interviews conducted by Aya with guests from the SDM's frequent parties. Flandre's shadow can often be seen walking behind the curtains on the ground level; she just never leaves the mansion itself.

>>21996051
Basically. The end of the 5th game ends up with an entire pocket dimension getting glassed for real. The spellcard rules were drafted afterwards to keep that from happening again. Gensokyo is only like 250 square kilometers: they can't afford MAD situations, and a huge portion of the population is capable of it.

>>21996087
Remember kids, don't sniff mushrooms!

>>21996160
Actually, I'm not sure if she took mushrooms.
But something happened to make her smaller.

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>>21996087
I had some post-fap guilt from that one.

>she begs and screams for help when she gets dragged into the lair of another insect for some raping

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>>21996000
Also, Flandre is dumb. Not Cirno dumb, just totally naive and completely misinformed about the world in general. She's not even aware she's a vampire or what vampire means, as all her meals are prepared and seem like regular human food.

Mostly because on the handful of occasions Remilia tried to teach her to hunt, she exploded her prey.

Also contrary to popular belief, Flandre is not locked in. Remilia asks her to stay, and she does, but nothing's actually holding her there. (Unless Remi is using her power over fate to make her want to stay.)

tl;dr Flande is only hard to kill because she's a vampire. Otherwise, she's got nothing going for her outside of her power. She even has classical vampire weaknesses in sunlight and running water. She is considered extremely unnerving, though. Even Marisa avoids her on her frequent book-raids in Viole. (Which may be where Flandre actually lives, as Viole is also the basement.)

>>21996249
In the Aya interview, I am pretty sure that Flandre was pretty darn smart, outwitting Remilia.

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>>21996274
I don't recall that at all. What book was that, again?

>>21996274
I'm certain a fair number of individuals are obfuscating stupidity.

But yeah, a lot of characters have powers that are ridiculous anywhere else but are almost par for the course in Gensokyo. Sakuya's power is total control of time and space, and she's the maid of the SDM. Reimu's power (I think) is to fly over anything. Literally anything, including the bounds of reality itself.

>>21996340
Wasn't Reimu's power more or less control over deities? All 8 million of them?

>>21996375
Haven't heard that one. Then again, she has Yukari's ear, and she has the power of boundaries. While it doesn't sound like much, it makes her the single most potent individual in all of Gensokyo.

>>21996295
Since I suck at names, I can't remember. But since I recall only one book that had Aya-done interviews, it must be that one. Red red something.

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>>21996340
Yeah, the power scale in Touhou is extremely wide. From Yukari's "I get to decide what terms mean objectively" to Marisa's "I am just really good at making things explode."

>>21996375
That's a power learned by all shrine maidens over time. Her actual personal ability is the ability to ascend, or transcend. This starts as initially being capable of flight. Eventually she's able to effectively go incorporeal, distort reality, and move through non-Euclidean space.

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>>21996414
Hong Meiling has kung fu and the power of qi as well as possibly being a dragon youkai. Her danmaku's not that good, but barring an ogre's power, Meiling is second to none in hand-to-hand.

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>>21996458
And she's the SDM's *gate guard.*

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>>21996458
Some of her moves in the fighting games are hilariously awesome. Like the punch that sends the enemy vertically out of the screen, and they take like three full seconds to come back.

>>21996479
Then there's Tenshi and her fuckery. Honestly, simple stuff like Suika's power is the best. She likes to drink stuff and isn't afraid of becoming XBOXHUEG.

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>>21996458
Only took a light shake to get by her, huh.

Power over headgear.

How overpowered would that be in Touhou?

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>>21996518

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>>21996549

>>21996523
Right there with Yukari. The only thing stronger would be the power over accessories.

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>>21996508
>simple stuff
>Suika

Suika has one of the most ass-broken powerful skills there are: The concept of density. She can create black holes, she can create white holes, she can split herself into a million little selves, make herself huge, or even a sentient cloud. Nevermind the attacks where she uses density to create a mass of self-gathering stone, creating a boulder around her grappled target, and then throwing the whole mass like it's a tennis ball. The game she was introduced in had her turn sake into mist and inebriate an entire town, then used density to control the population flow to instigate a drunken party. And it's implied she's been doing this -every year since forever ago-, and Reimu only finally got around to figuring out why the whole village turns into drunken revelry at the same time every year, whether or not anyone actually wanted to.

>>21996523
He who controls the hats, controls Gensokyo!

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>>21996340
Abstract powers like that shouldn't be used in games like this. They are more like plot devices than powers actually.

Actually if it would be me I would remove almost all official characters (unless your party plays as them) because they are tied too close to the plot and far to close to each other and as soon as you begin to interact with one stuff spirals into an uncontrolable mess. At best they could be minor NPCs or background NPCs. Other method which was mentioned previously, is to turn the characters into horrific abominations which most of them actually are.

Of course that also removes almost everything which make Gensokyo what it is.

Other than that Gensoyko is positively a great place to have an adventure!

>>21996642
>Other than that Gensoyko is positively a great place to die!!
Fixed that for you.

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>>21996642
Here's an idea.

ZUN says there's no actual gender bias in Gensokyo's population. The fact that the cast is all female is strictly his preference to draw frilly dresses. Which means that, on average, for every eldritch abomination we see in canon, there's a male counterpart to balance the gender ratio out. We don't even know half the power-players in Gensokyo.

>>21996677
The only male we know of/we saw a face from is Rinnosuke, right?

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>>21996706
We know of a few, but he's the only humanoid one that we've seen, yeah. There's also Genji (Reimu's pet sentient turtle), Unzan (The giant cloud spirit guy), one of the forms of the first boss in the series (who appears to be an actual Shinto priest), and Youki Konpaku (Youmu's teacher and presumably father.)

>>21996706
In the newest manga chapter, there is old named man who has kappa medicine.

>>21996742
Does he have any power beyond having a shop and getting his shit stolen?

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>>21996800
He can identify stuff.

Though usually his identification of said things are skewed.

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>>21996656
Hey nobody said adventuring is only about HAPPY SUPER FUNTIME!

>>21996813
Life must suck for him, then.

Well, at the very least he's getting some action in doujins, due to being the only humanoid male with face. Sure, faceless man rape and futa everywhere, but he's getting SOME.

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>>21996850
It could be worse.

He could be a living punching bag.

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>>21996800
His actual power is that he can determine the proper name and use of any item he holds, but not how to use it. This is useful, as he is one of the only ways to get things from the outside world. There's actually a story arc about him panicing over finding a Gameboy, because his power told him about everything one could possibly ever do within the games the thing played, up to and including JRPG-end-the-world type malarky. He ended up concluding that it was a device made by the gods and could control the universe. He intended to destroy it, but then Yukari got involved.

He is unique in that he understands something of Earth technology, though his understanding is skewed. He believes computers are the Earth equivalent of shikigami, for example.

He also may be way the hell smarter and more powerful than anyone realizes, as he hand-built the mini-hakkero, Marisa's pocket nuke. It's actually a Swiss army knife of items; you only see its "incinerate everything" setting in the games. It also contains true, from-earth technology working with Gensokyo-class magic to output that much power. There are microchips under those trigrams..

>>21996850
Can't he redirect the force of blows or something?

I remember seeing a manga panel where he gets kicked in the balls so hard his glasses blow up or something and that's how they explained that.

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>>21996882
Sounds very moon-technology-esque.

>>21996894
That was also just a fan manga. And in fan manga every single touhou has 10ft long horsecocks.

I'd say legend of the Wulin. A system that favors non-lethal fights as well as highly dramatic ones.

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>>21996677
>ZUN says there's no actual gender bias in Gensokyo's population. The fact that the cast is all female is strictly his preference to draw frilly dresses. Which means that, on average, for every eldritch abomination we see in canon, there's a male counterpart to balance the gender ratio out. We don't even know half the power-players in Gensokyo.

It doesn't even matter because most things are too abstract to make sense at all. Let alone to applied in an RPG.

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>>21996656

Maybe for FIGHTERS dohohoho

>>21996911

I doubt Moon Nazi Rabbits were involved.

Just on the game system:
anyone tried the MYON homebrew?
http://www.mediafire.com/?kcdopda9ti6mb07

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Honestly, I'd just have it be grim-happy Gensokyo like most people are used to. Fluff as using powers to their proper extent is more strenuous than using spellcards, which stops the generally lazy residents of Gensokyo from doing the crazy shit.

>>21996249
Cirno isnt that dumb, she can read, and thats more than you can say for mystia.

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>>21996998
Oh I know that, I'm just saying that the device itself sounds like something the moon would make.

>>21996656

I dunno, Most of the death places seem chipper enough.

>>21997008
Isn't that about the same as our lives?
Sure, pretty much anyone could develop essentially anything. But we prefer to use pre-fabricated stuff.
You could code your own smartphone and it would be better than anything on the market. But who would waste his time like that?

>>21996882

Yeah, Rinnosuke's one of the more interesting characters to speculate about. He also has that thing about having some of the Imperial Regalia... which... would be a decent hook for a campaign.

That said, the functions he built into the Hakkero were things like "air conditioning" and "potion heating". Useful, but unless common sense is a superpower in Gensokyo (it's certainly a limited commodity) he doesn't seem to think much of it.

>>21997145
>unless common sense is a superpower in Gensokyo

I'd honestly say it's more likely a flaw than a feature.

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>>21997031
Well, that's kind of a skewed version of what I said, but yeah. The setting of Gensokyo has a lot of day-to-day boring but fun stuff that the characters do. PCs don't have to investigate the sky turning green, they can also gossip, plot, backstab, and cause their own shit. Of course, doing something big (like turning the sky green) might attract the attention of the unwinnable sort...

>>21997017
Mystia, on the other hand, is clever enough to run her lamprey stall scam and apparently run it well.

>>21997002

Check out the IRC - #Touhous

That's where the playtesting seems to go down.

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>>21996947
I don't actively search out touhou stuffs, but I've seen more yuri than futa.

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>>21996549
>>21996571
That fucking doujin

>>21997145
>>Useful, but unless common sense is a superpower in Gensokyo (it's certainly a limited commodity) he doesn't seem to think much of it.

Common sense really is a superpower in Gensokyo considering the majority of the Tohou cast doesn't need any because they have MAGIC, MAGIC EVERYWHERE! Nothing needs explanation so common sense not needed.

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>>21997261

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Not often we have a Touhou thread, here have this little gem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFV5lZdPSjI

>>21997261

Yes, I think one of the CoLA stories had Yukari thinking about how boring it was to have explanations and definition.

>>21997341

I prefer this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2nS2ZjxcOU

>>21996677
>We don't even know half the power-players in Gensokyo.

I'm sure at least one of them is a youkai catboy.

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>>21996677
Based on what?

Most 'power players' have either come in from the outside world, or have already tried their shot at doing something.

>>21997426
Half-youkai, you mean. All of us should know what the other half is by now.

>>21997443

Fairy?

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>>21997399

I can't think of any fanbase of any work of fiction as active as Touhou, its a very unique phenomenon

>>21994717
All I'm saying is that people who like Touhou are pedophiles.

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>>21997454
I think it's because a lot of the characters are characterized, but not too much. This allows people to make up their own stories and have their 'own Gensokyo' (Black Tewi thing).

A lot of the events inbetween games are also not too drawn upon, so it's easy to just toss things in. It's a very open setting.

>>21997447

Yep, which means he's bloody retarded.

>>21996952

Not a bad idea, LotW would work pretty well.

>>21997477

Oh you mean an actual fairy? Doesn't that make him technically immortal too? Or do half-fairies not get the self-resurrection ability?

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>>21997457

But...there are young girls AND old hags

>>21997457
Did you see the knockers on some of these girls?
Liking tits makes you a pedophile now?

>>21997399
Well, if we're talking mecha...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovQKvaKILmc

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>>21997341
WELP, I has a sad. Thanks, ya bastard.

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>>21997503
>But...there are losers no one cares about AND firey hot cougars

>>21997454
Please I could create a fandom like that easily.

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>>21997536
>>21997341
Osana reimu was better

>>21997454
Unfortunately, Sonic and MLP are.

>>21997610
They are as active, but the quality of their content is... Yeah. I don't think I'll have to elaborate on that, my friend.

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>>21997610
no, no they are not, MLP and sega do not have anywhere near the weight of work touhou has. When you have at least 5 original animes done and voiced by fans of high quality you can claim to have half of the popularity.

>>21997235
Which IRC? It's not apparently on Rizon which I was thinking it was.

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>>21997610

Doubt it, Touhou has been around for a while and it spawned some fan work that are actually pretty fucking good on they're own, and that's with disregarding the cosntant orchestral remixes of the songs

Just listen to this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYgcWUO5Bzo

>>21997454
Sonic, MLP

Fuck, what about Homestuck?

TF2? Replace the hats with hats and the bullets with bullets and you've basically got the TF2 fandom...

Is there any good point to get into Touhou? I've read just bits and pieces from Doujin and Manga and played those two fighting games.

Should I start at the first game?

>>21997443
>Half-youkai, you mean. All of us should know what the other half is by now.

Half-youkai, half-Lunarian catboy.

>>21997677
Probably our very own wretched hive of scum and villainy.

Suptg.

>>21997693
As a former touhou fanatic, no.

Just avoid it.

If you must, start with 6.

>>21997696
Silly, everyone knows there are only lunarian bunnyboys.

>>21997693
The first ~5 were developed for some obscure Japanese computer and don't really have any logical story. They're fun, and the music ain't bad, but they may or may not make sense depending on how much research you do online.

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>>21996656
>dying

>>21997714
Eh, got my mind set upon destroying my life. If that is even possible. I've long since lost control of my life.

Any other preferable medium to get the story from the first 5 games?

>>21997639
Not to mention all of the fan-made video games.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPxtXjstON0

>>21997729
Not everyone is immortal. And not everyone is an eternal loser. Unlike some other people present.

In unrelated news:
Touhou 13.5: Hopeless Masquerade!

Beat each other up to increase your popularity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbFyYb6y9PU&feature

>>21997706

Yeah, that's the one - sorry, I should have said before.

>>21997690

Well a part of it comes down to fan production. MLP really does have some good and interesting fanfiction (which I can't stand because I don't like the pony thing).

But fans actually make legal, endorsed, encouraged money off of Touhou, and that's a huge factor. Remixes, doujinshi, videos... it's pretty incredible.

It'd be nice if we westerners had more good fiction though - not that there aren't some fucking amazing doujinshi.

>>21997548
Then why don't you?

>>21997735

Hmm... there are probably summaries on en.touhouwiki.net (the best wiki) that'll get you through. They're canon... but only sortof.

>>21997639
Unfortunately, Touhou has the field advantage of Japan being generally accepting of derivative works. Trying to make a fan-anything in the US often results in a C&D due to bullshit trademark laws that basically say "Defend it or you lose it". It's downright hostile to fanworks. Another advantage Japan has is in paychecks. When you look at the top earners of Japan compared to the top earners of the US, the difference is quite staggering.

>>21997680
One of the best examples is Koumajou Densetsu 2. Not only is it a very solid Castlevania-esque game, one of their team had the connections to get professional seiyuu to voice the entire game.

>>21997782
Fine I will, and it'll be the biggest, most annoying fandom on the internet, I'll probably get designated to a certain board here or even get my own.

>>21997812

Nothing unfortunate about it. Well, for Touhou.

Even then, ZUN's stance on derivative work is pretty generous.

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>>21997812

Yeah, fanwork is really stiffled hard in the west but I can understand why.

Still, when someone can be inspired to come up with that kind of music by a work of fiction, I can't help but admire how big Touhou became.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=y3KwbvAQ8xw

Morrigan is pretty fucking amazing

>>21994717
You don't, and actually play in a good setting

>>21997922
Didn't he actually say something about ero works outside of Japan or something was banned?

He's a mite bit nationalistic.

>>21997931
I think the reason why Touhou is stifled so much in the west (Especially when it comes to E-doujin) is because ZUN doesn't want Touhou to become something that's frowned upon.

>>21997958
Refer above, if such e-doujins became big in the west, don't you think it'd become popular for the wrong reasons? Especially considering most girls look 14 or so.

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>>21997748
>will not die, ever
>knows a shitton of magic
>immortal rival, so never gets bored
>respected in human village
>not living the dream

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>>21998001

>Has a mortal friend that will inevitably die before her

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>>21998001
>dies every five minutes, to basic spellcards
>lights herself on fire to scare people away
>always raging at immortal rival who lives in a palatial mansion while she is a murderhobo in a tiny leaky shack
>feared by the human village
>not living horribly

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>>21997981

I can understand that, people over here get they're panties twisted at the mere mention of sex.

Still a shame

>>21997958

Couldn't find anything to that effect, just something where he tightened the channels he allows commercial derivative work to be distributed through and doujin to be published.

Honestly, it looks more like he jsut didn't really consider that there's really substantial western fanbase.

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>>21998117

Its not like he had any idea Touhou would grow so big either

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Ah..Gensokyo, a setting so brokenly overpowered that even the closet thing they have to a Bad Ass Normal can still fly and nuke cities.

>>21998145

Yeah, nobody could have predicted how big it would become.

Also, found this pretty cool indirect interview: http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=13698.0

>>21997735
play the first game, its amazing.

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Touhou will come to America when ZUN runs out of beer money, i.e. never.

>>21998192

...it's sortof-almost-realistic. All the Big Players have WMDs, so there's a MAD situation going on, with Spellcards as a conflict resolution system that avoids their use - yet there's still a lot of lower-level violence.

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>>21998192

And its all kept in check by how lazy everyone is

I'd run it in a modified version of Magical Burst.

Scion might work? Though I suggest looking up house rules to fix combat.

Don't rest your head could also work. I like the idea touhou characters becoming nightmare monsters

>>21998271

That would be pretty interesting for a All-Human group. As they grow in power, they become increasingly youkai-like, with the goal being to protect Gensokyo (pre-spellcards?) without becoming the enemy.

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>>21998256
The best way to go about things and to get at people is to be underhanded and clever.

Yukari and Eirin played that game, and Gaphag came out ontop.

>>21996677
That actually gives some potential there.
We all know what the majority of women in Gensokyo have been up to, but that leaves out half the population which have never been touched on, and thus are open season for gms.

>>21998070
wasn't it pretty much stated in the game that reimu went "oh, great, she's immortal that means i can use spells at full power"?
>raging
i dunno, in IotM&IotE they were pretty chill.
>feared
she routinely rescues people who get lost in forest of the lost. She only scares those who see her first. And yes, if you're being chased through the forest by a rabbit with human face and suddenly there's little girl WHO IS ON FIRE that's pretty unnerving.
>murderhobo
hmm, spot on, actually. But she says she prefers living like that in ColR.

Yeah, Keine thing sucks, but cannot have everything?

I dunno, doesn't seem like it's THAT horrible.

I don't know how, but I know that I wouldn't mind playing a female artificer who commands a bunch of dolls.

>>21998320

The 3.5 build is pretty easy, gimme a second to see if I still have "Alister Wundrand"

>>21998230
Regardless of it being 'never', if Touhou wound up on steam, day-1 purchase and gifted like batshit crazy.

>>21998304
>IotM&IotE
Well, that IS a gag manga.

But yes, I was exaggerating a fair bit. But not that much.
Being a Mokou is suffering ;_;

>>21998379
Well, at the very least she has bitchin' pants.

>>21998379
From what i see, there's not much people who are discontent with their lifestyle in gensokyo. I mean, it's pretty much... Reimu? Tenshi (but that's more boredom problem).?

>>21998290

Or even for a story, they could be called by a higher powered touhou character to do things for them since they can't really do anything, with them possibly about to cause another incident.

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>>21998360

Well, couldn't find it, but all you really need is Complete Arcane.

Either Wizard or Artificer (Alice would be a Wizard, mind). From Complete Arcane, see the Effigy Creature. And done. You don't need to take Effigy Master, as it's a bit shitty.

Make Effigies of Fey or Tiny Winged Humanoids, and you're done.

Also, here's a Mokou 3.5 statblock I made a while back. As I've finally found a good enough picture for Sakuya I might actually get back to making more.

>>21998447

It kind of sucks immensely if you live in the human village, and Youkai Jesus doesn't really like the affair of thin gs

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>>21998296

>Gaphag

I see no gap or hag here.

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>>21998459
Or perhaps said high powered character is too busy with one thing to do another task.

Eirin would be good for that, since she usually needs materials to make medicines and the like.

Could also just have her other servant, Udonge, tied up with other tasks.

>>21998498

You could start out with fights against low-level youkai and fairies and just work your way up.

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Hey.
Hey guys.
ufopornoooooooooo

>>21998374

ZUN will probably never put the Touhou games on stream.

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>>21998548
That too.

Maybe they could take on the arduous task of trying to catch Tewi.

Good luck.

>>21998548

...now the trick would be to do this without the players realising they're in a Touhou game.

"Hey... was that a mid boss? Cause that kinda seemed like a mid boss, and wait, then there were those four bosses... and oh fuck you. I should've known when they kept dropping magic hats."

>>21998498
See the discussion about Rinnosuke earlier in this thread.
The guy's perfect for stuff like that. He's moderately important and just screams "I'm an NPC and I have some shit for you to do!".

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>>21998552
Oh, I like those.

ps

Reisen 9,999,999 get

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>>21998593
Any of the more human friendly types are perfect for those tasks.

>>21998599
Come on, that's pretty deep faggotry even for a tripfag.

>>21998593

And after the initial things like "go to hill of poison and rob graves", he even has an Incident worthy canon desire: the Imperial Regalia.

Which would be kinda amusing, the PC's enabling the next Incident.

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>>21998641
are you frustrated?

that's on /tg/

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>>21998657
It would be pretty interesting overall to see how the PC's would interact with the world, in my opinion.

Depending if the PC's are humans, etc. or actual characters from the games.

It's just a pretty cool scenario all around.

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>>21998686

Bunch of people being dumped in Gensokyo out of Yukari gap shenanigan might be the best way to explain it

>>21998686

Hmm, I think I have an idea.

Theres been a lot of talk of male touhou characters. Added with playing humans. You don't need to play a high power game with hat girls, what you need to be playing is

PimpLords

>>21998740

You know, I wasn't expecting that.

But I suppose I shouldn't have been so surprised.

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>>21998734
That's probably the best way to explain it, yes.

They'd have to be some pretty exceptioal/lucky people. Youkai are scary.

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a touhou RPG does exist, its pdf is just too large to upload to /tg/.

I dunno what'd I do with it though.
Even in the games it mostly goes down like a gang war.

>Watch were you be stepping, this is my turf!
>Son, you best check yourself before you wreck yourself.
>Aww shit you're a witch/shrine maiden? Brace yourself fool!
>*POP POP POP WATCHING MAGIC GIRLS DROP*

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>>21998740

>Pimp lord
>trying to coerce anyone into being a whore

Yeah...good luck with that

>>21998740
They still need to wear hats and accesso-... Bling. Lots of bling.

>>21998778
Theres a couple. One is japanese with a fan translation. The other was written in english. I don't know how either plays but i think they can be found on 1d4chan

>>21998829
Hey, Pimps where hats all the time.

>>21998778

http://www.mediafire.com/?6i4hga71srch4og

I'm reading it through right now - it looks pretty decent.

You can also make the guys that have already been presented in canon out as more powerful than how ZUN portrays them, since everyone's Gensokyo is different.

As an example, for my version of Rinnosuke, his ability isn't simply to 'figure out' how an object works; He actually decides on a whim what the object does, and then it works that way. So, if he determines that what was originally an old television set is a device for making egg sandwiches, it's going to be making some motherfucking delicious egg sandwiches.

Naturally this 'new' power is FAR beyond what ZUN says he does, yet it's still related to the original character, and can be used for humorous hijinks.

>>21998740
But all the touhous are eldritch horror lesbians...if you try to pimp that, you're gonna get dead.

>>21998912

Well, you don't really need to do that. But lots of the characters are super-powerful through exploitation of their power, so it's not too big a stretch to imagine Rinnosuke eventually learning to manipulate Identity like that.

>>21998913

Ghost Pimp Lords.

>Yuyuko wou-

Yuyuko Endorsed Ghost Pimp Lords.

>>21998912
Wait. That power is hilariously broken. It's on par with Yukari's "This word means that now. Period." power.

Are there any limitations? Like, he cannot pull that shit when he himself knows how it works or if someone with that moxie is present?

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>>21998992
I think that's just that anon's interpretation.

Eve Yukari has limits

>>21999002
But his interpretation is correct. As is yours. And everyone elses.

Everything is canon for touhou.

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>>21999039
Fair enough.

That's usually gathered under 'Black Tewi', which refers to a doujin work in which a black skinned Tewi explains that anyone can have their own Gensokyo, because of how open the setting is.

Not sure if you already know about it, but may as well explain it.

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>>21999002
>Eve Yukari has limits

Really?

>>21998992

Not that guy, but his very low-level "identity manipulation" is my fantheory for why Yukari sometimes bugs him.

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>>21998778
>gang war touhou
>cyberpunk because cyberpunk
>shadowrun?
regardless
>Immortals represent!
>i heard they have backing of a major pharmaceutical company, so they basically do what they want. Seriously, fuck those guys
>Reimu and co. = The Man?
>Yukari for president, 1000+th time!
>The Yakumo "Family"
>Religion wars: state-approved religion versus crazy shintoists and buddhists!
>Rinnosuke, the technomancer!
>Incidents are decided with crazy shootouts, tagging walls and of course tea parties

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>>21999071
That's correct. In SSiB, she states that she's no match for the Lunarians, and she was even beaten by them when she invaded some centuries back.

To sort of show how she's limited, she can only open a gap to the true side of the moon once per month at the full moon. If she were omnipotent, she'd be able to do it as she pleases.

>>21999088
>crazy shootouts

I think you mean crazy paintball shootouts.

>>21999100

Well, even then it's still entirely plausible that she's not telling the whole truth.

There's a strong suggestion that she lost deliberately to stop her unruly youkai army from being so arrogant.

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>>21999088
I never asked for this

>>21999100
Well, she's a Youkai with longevity and will get more powerful and more powerful and so on.
Sure, she has some boundaries Heh, but they sure aren't set in stone. Not with a power like that.

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>>21999100

Oh right, the Lunarians but the moon isn't exactly inside Gensokyo is it? It's jsut that I always tought her power was near omnipotence in Gensokyo, that isn't true anywhere else

>>21999137
Are we going for Shadowrun or Jet Set Rdio?
and why not both?

Alright. I think it's time.

Album recommendation time.
Hit me with your best stuff.

>>21998955

That's true. I like using it as an excuse for the mini-Hakkero; ol' Rin just decided one day "y'know what? I think this is a source of limitless energy. Yup."

The canon really is that he actually MADE the motherfucker, isn't it?

Also, yes, I know that the interpretation is VERY out-of-line with ZUN's (same poster, here). It's broken as fuck, and would basically mean Kourin's accounts in CoLA are 'skewed' so that the reader isn't let in on the whole picture; I don't think ZUN does that.

>>21999170

Also the Lunarians are cheating Moon Nazis.

>>21998913
Each one has a Pimping Challenge Rating

>>21999088

http://archive.foolz.us/tg/thread/20888123/#q20897693

We had a shortish thread about just such a thing.

In short - it works really fucking well.

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>>21999088
A cyberpunk Touhou setting where Gensokyo becomes a giant, sprawling, urban megalopolis would be delicious. Especially more so when one thinks upon how all of the houses/characters would end up. It's probably one of my favourite imaginings for the series.

>>21999170
She's the queen bitch of Gensokyo, you got that right. She's still beatable (Under spellcard rules and all, that makes it easier) though.

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>>21999191
How come the Lunarians are cheaters?

>>21999180

ShibayanRecords are usually pretty good - good vocals are pretty uncommon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8n-h7sIjvc

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>>21999205
Their cities would probably look like this.

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>>21999150
Shia Lebouf as Adam Jensen.

>>21999189
>I don't think ZUN does that.
depends. What stage of drunkedness are we talking about?

>>21999180
Not much into trance (which is, like, 90% of all touhou music), but pretty much all touhou melodic metal is glorious.
Not albums, but Godspeed's Rage and Wild Moon are two awesome tracks.
I've yet to hear rock/metal version of Okuu's theme i didn't like.

i also like IOSYS's Conviction! Yamaxanadu. It's shamefur, but i can't help it.

>>21999202

Here's a surprisingly good Shadowrun/Touhou crossover one-shot:

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6161702/8/

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>>21999232
>>21999205
>>21999088

Shit, color me convinced, cyberpunk Gensokyo sound sweet as hell as long as the overall bright side is kept.

Not that tregedy can'T happen, jsut look at Yuyuko backstory...poor girl.

>>21999287
>drunkedness
About that state of intoxication, yes. Most likely after he downed his 10l mug.

>>21999287
No shame in that. I like Yellow Zebra and IOSYS songs. Fuck me if they aren't silly and stupid, but they're catchy.

>>21999205

It'd also work since the touhou games seem to be in a period of decline for youkai, and if the human village grew into a sprawling city, the youkai/human relations could be interesting

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>>21999315
Can't have pure grimdark all the time!

Mix up some amusing, lighthearted stuff with some awesome dark stuff. For example, when it comes to Cyberpunk, poverty and struggling to meet ends (Especially when it comes to the oddities of Gensokyo) could prove a good focal point. As for lighthearted stuff, why not have some silly events? Even in the serious manga works, there were silly moments, even when a battle was coming up.

It's a good setting for both.

>>21999287

It's very shamefur.

I... like it too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHYwVFSGDvU

Here's a pretty nice single. I'm no good at album recommendations, because my touhou music folder is all unsorted except for ZUN's stuff, because I find each one is really variable in quality.

That said - ZUN's latest two albums - Trojan Green Asteroid and Neo-Traditionalism of Japan are both pretty great. Got some cyberpunkish tunes there as well, to fit with the other theme we've got going.

I only ask for one thing: don't insert the yukkuris. Please.

Or, if you do, they're as imaginary in Gensokyo as Pokemon are to us; perhaps they have a popular game called Yukkumon.

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>>21999381

I just dislike it when the girls are portrayed as some kind of abject horrors or man eating monsters, there's more interesting way to shift and change the characters

>>21999438

Well. They ARE man eating monsters.

It's just that most of them don't anymore. Or, at least do it much less.

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>>21999438
I whole-heartedly agree.

Some youkai don't even eat humans, nor have they ever thought of it. Moon rabbits for example, whilst being beast youkai, do not eat humans nor have they ever.

>>21998667
>one of these trips is not like the other~

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>>21999473

Oh I'm sure those rabbits are happy to eat something else....

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>>21999180
Anything by Oriens except for Passion Blossom, Sekken-ya, DARK PHOENiX, like a rabbit, SOUND.AVE, TAMusic, Fragile Online and k-waves lab are my favorites, though I prefer the latter's non-touhou work.

If you're into more metal sounds, CROW'SCLAW and IRON ATTACK are the circles I hear mentioned most often, and if you like techno, there's no hope for you.

Actually, my internet's being pretty cooperative tonight - if you guys want me to upload some stuff, I can.

>>21999437
Silly anon, yukkuris already don't exist. They've never existed. What are we talking about, again?

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>>21999556

No idea. Did you mean Yukari? Cause she's pretty great.

>>21999550
>254gb
Woah, look at this badass over there.

http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=torrentinfo&tid=369341

Thank you very much for the recommendations. I'll check them out. I already own quite a few CC albums, but I'll look into IRON ATTACK.

>>21999588
shush ;_;

Yeah, most of the stuff is more melodic/orchestral - oh man there was this group that did really really nice celtic arranges and wasn't k-waves, lemme find it - so if that's not to your tastes, my recommendations probably won't do much for you.

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>>21999580

How can someone be so fucking broken yet unable to save this poor, poor girl?

>>21999656

Have we ever seen Yukari breaking a 'concept' boundary in ZUN's stuff? Everything I've ever seen from him merely suggests that she's an incredibly gifted user of space-altering magic.

There are her spellcard names, but then that opens up all sorts of boxes best left shut (such as 'China is The Dragon', ugh.)

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>>21999733
Unless you count the border to the fantastical moon as opposed to the 'white ball of dust' moon, then I don't think she's been shown breaking concepts.

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>>21999656

Well, I'm sure she knew that Yuyuko was happiest as a carefree ghost, but that it was best for her to get it out of her system with a little unhappiness and uncertainty.

Even with her best friend, I can't help but see Yukari being really devious.

>>21999733

Yeah, in Silent Sinner in Blue, she alters the border of Truth and Illusion to make it so that by stepping into the reflection of the moon in a puddle, she was in fact stepping upon the moon.

Oh, wait... that's pretty much space manipulation...

"The danger and potency of the power to manipulate boundaries is beyond imagination. It's something that can only be controlled by those who are able to withstand its stress, or some weirdo youkai like Yukari. "

"She easily has enough power to annihilate all of Gensokyo if she so desires, so it's probably a good thing that she is somewhat weird... "

>>21999861
>TL Note: Weird means laaaaaazy

>>21999899

"After waking up from her nap, she finally noticed that spring had graced her place of residence. The truth is that spring had been around for the past 10 days, but she forgot it whenever she went to bed and woke up just as surprised the next time."

(these are all from the game profiles on her touhouwiki article btw)

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Soooo...cyberpunk Gensokyo...are we making this a thing, or is it staying a cool idea?

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>>21999861
Yukari's kind of a bitch anyways.

Going after poor Eirin because Eientei is on the human side.

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I really hope the janitor doesn't wake up for.. ever, actually! Thank god /tg/ can have a good touhou thread tonight!

>Album recommendations

There's way too many that I love to possibly list them all, but here's a few that come to mind

http://vgmdb.net/album/27833

Folksy and charming instrumentals galore! The music is as lighthearted and lovely as the cover. Definitely worth a listen

http://vgmdb.net/album/27962

Some sort of growl metal madness. Even though I usually hate this sort of music, it's quite amazing how passionate and intense their renditions of the SDM crew's themes are

http://vgmdb.net/album/22594

My ignorance of music genres precludes my ability to categorize this album, but it's nonetheless worth a mention. I quite like it

http://vgmdb.net/album/11152

Even most of /tg/ by now has probably heard a song or two by O-Life, such is the splendor of their music. In particular, Echo Beneath the Earth, Sound of the Grassland should be familiar to those who've played Monster Girl Quest

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>>21999943
If you'd like Anon, we could keep it as a fun idea, even throw some discussion in just to get people interested, or just get ourselves interested in the setting itself.

How do you think some character's roles would change? Would some houses still be as prestigious as they are now? Would there be a harsh police force to put down unruly youkai?

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>>21999917

Good thing she doesn't live alone

>>21999861

I don't think she would have gone and fucked over Yuyuko like that, maybe she didn't know the extend of that tree power or something. Didn't she try to reawaken it to revive Yuyuko, causing an incident, in one of the games?

>>21996593
Gotta love an oni's approach to partying.

"You WILL come to the party and you WILL get drunk and you WILL enjoy it!"

>>21999983

A few ideas for characters:

Yuyuko could be an AI/uploaded human component in control of the Saigyou Ayakashi (whatever that is - maybe some barely controlled Skynet-like AI). Youmu as her cyborg (half-human) guardian, with enough neural hardware to have a simultaneous virtual presence (her "ghost" half).

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>>21999961

>Campaign ideas

It's pretty important to remember that the nature of Gensokyo is that everyone has their own interpretation. As long as you resist the urge to insert the existing characters into your campaign (Who wants to be reminded that Elminster exists when they're trying to have their own adventures?) I think it'd be quite nice

Just.. pick a tone early and go with it. Suspense and horror is pretty easy with Rumia, SDM in general, and the Bamboo Forest as inspiration. Lighthearted shenanigans have plenty of space for obvious reasons. Hell, with Hopeless Masquerade on the way, even political stuff in the form of religious wars are becoming a thing

I wouldn't personally be concerned with running a campaign "in" Gensokyo. I think it's just best to let yourself be inspired by it. Hell, I made a character based on Youki Konpakku with a dash of PC98 character inspiration and he ended up being one of the best characters I ever played

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>>21999961
The janitor wouldn't have a problem with this thread anyway. It's /tg/ as fuck.

There we go, the celtic group was Casket.

Unfortunately, this was all I could find on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S18uRIdl6c

>>22000081

A fight with Youmu would have to happen in the cyberspace and real world?

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>>22000081
Are you thinking about a transition from the fantastical Gensokyo paradise to a cyberpunk world, or just a cyberpunk Gensokyo?

Nevertheless, since Eientei is my favourite faction, I may as well come up with some things for them. Perhaps as soon as Gensokyo becomes modernized, Eientei would stay relatively hidden. Corporations would love to have a hold of someone who can cure basically any disease (Eirin). Perhaps they would hide their base of operations under a casino (Lucky Rabbit Casino? Haha.). Udonge would still be the errand girl, and maybe she'll have dusted off the old Lunar rifle as not to look suspicious in combat. I'm sure Tewi could just rake in money as well, and Kaguya can keep her comfortable lifestyle, whilst Eirin masterminds it all.

>>22000137

Yeah. She'd have machine-reflexes in the real world and semi-autonomous attack programs running - so when she attacks you, her Ghost would try to hack your systems and do "spiritual" (neural) damage along with the vibrosword.

Plus, sensor jamming and stuff like that. Anyone with active VR might see a cloud of "static" protecting her and zapping things.

>>22000165

What is she doing to that poor rabbit

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>>22000208
Eirin loves her disciple.

Perhaps a bit too much.