>>22793207

2/2

Further down the range's line, the warning to plug your ears gets hollered down. The three of you do almost instantly, before transitioning to your binoculars double quick. You're able to watch the round scream down the open space and slam into the dirt...almost ten yards to the right of the intended target.

You sigh, knowing that this means more classroom instruction. Three out of four tanks of this current platoon had missed, meaning that eleven of twelve tanks had missed thus far. The tankers, far more concerned about themselves than their skills, were all out of their tanks, having tea.

Thomas looks down at his watch, then back at the tea-sipping tankers. “It's not even noon yet! How can the wankers be having teatime when it's not even noon!?”

“Well sir, want me to go bust their asses? I can send Siegel over there. She's apparently acting like her Q-Course cadres were, and she's having a hell of a fun time with it.” Anderson says, stepping next to you.

[] “Let them have their fun, we'll see who's sipping tea when the Iraqis swarm over the border.”
[] “Absofreakin'lutely. If they're so concerned about their tea, maybe they'll have their heads on straight when it's knocked onto the deck.”
[] other.

>>22793216
[] “Absofreakin'lutely. If they're so concerned about their tea, maybe they'll have their heads on straight when it's knocked onto the deck.”
I'm not sure how privy we are to the whole "Why Arabs Lose Wars." stuff IC, but a possible way of nipping that shit in the bud is discretely looking for amenable rank and file, and teaching this shit to them. Let it diffuse amongst the ranks and whatnot. Because obviously lecturing from a course is not working.

>>22793216

[x] “Absofreakin'lutely. If they're so concerned about their tea, maybe they'll have their heads on straight when it's knocked onto the deck.”

Gentlemen, it is time for us to lose our patience.

>>22793216

>[] “Absofreakin'lutely. If they're so concerned about their tea, maybe they'll have their heads on straight when it's knocked onto the deck.”

And even then, its not going to work.

I wonder if we can get permission from Garrison to break them.

Usual stuff like communal punishment if they don't meet specified targets.

>>22793216
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQGkciuyE7U
I don't think yelling will help to much.

>>22793216
[x] “Absofreakin'lutely. If they're so concerned about their tea, maybe they'll have their heads on straight when it's knocked onto the deck.”

I actually just want to see Siegel in action. We haven't actually seen enough of her.

>>22793216

[X] “Absofreakin'lutely. If they're so concerned about their tea, maybe they'll have their heads on straight when it's knocked onto the deck.”

>>22793207
Our only consolation is that the Iraqis probably aren't much better off than the Saudis.

>>22793420
>Siegel

Wait, she's JEWISH? Oh fuck, this is gonna be good. Get some popcorn guys, we might get to see her kill some people.

>>22793548
Magical Jewish Spec-Ops. Truly one of the most feared things in the world.

>>22793586
We need to remember to constantly rub it in the Royal Bitch's face that she's outranked by a Jewish girl.

>>22793605
let's not. That just screams bad idea.

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oh hey finally made it in time for one of these threads

>>22793216
>[x] “Absofreakin'lutely. If they're so concerned about their tea, maybe they'll have their heads on straight when it's knocked onto the deck.”

>We're twice as good and our royalty is better looking!” Thomas says with a smile.

I'll take the twice as good, but I going to need some evidence about the royalty looking better.

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>[] “Absofreakin'lutely. If they're so concerned about their tea, maybe they'll have their heads on straight when it's knocked onto the deck.”

“You know what?” You ask nobody in particular before looking at Anderson. “Fuck it. Let her off the leash. Hopefully it'll make them realize we're serious, if nothing else.”

Anderson smiles before walking to the range your witches were holding. Your witches had all been working almost nonstop with your new striker techs, flown direct from one of the western European depots. He has a quick word with the only special forces witch you've ever seen and points over to the lounging Saudis. She nods, wipes her hands, tucks her hair back, and almost instantly, you can see the change in her demeanor. Going from helpful and friendly (you think) to stone-faced killer must be her specialty, because she's really good at it. Like, scary good.

Seigel, arriving at the pop up tent that the Saudis had been under, seems to loom over the table, fists on her hips. One of the officers sees her and sneers, before the final warning to plug your ears is shouted down the line. Not wanting to miss this, you slap your hands over your ears and watch as Seigel takes a half step back, and slams her heel into the plastic lawn table holding all the cups and kettle just as the 105 millimeter cannon roars. Had to have been a coincidence, right?

Either way, the desired effect is achieved. The group of tankers stare at Seigel like she's a woman possessed and attempt to scramble, but they're not nearly fast enough. Immediately, she's upon them, hauling men up by their collars and screaming in their face before casually tossing them towards their vehicles. You can't quite hear what she's saying, but whatever it is, you know it's not pretty. More than once, she stops long enough for a Saudi to acknowledge that she's speaking to him, before she starts smoking them again.

>>22793739

2/2

“Jeeesus. Christ.” You say, looking to Anderson. He just grins. “Remind me to never piss you people off.”

“Aw hell, sir. Truth be told, she's being nice. During selection, I had a Cadre who went around stealing people's weapons, then got on them for not being armed. Made for a good time when they were supposed to pull watch.”

“Either way, LT. I don't plan on getting on special forces bad side any time soon.”

“Shit sir, you're special forces now too. Don't forget.” He says with a grin.

A distance away, you can see Nicky frantically waving his arms and shouting for your attention.

[] Go see what he wants!
[] Watch Siegel some more, deal with Nicky later
[] other

>>22793751
[X] Go see what he wants!

>>22793751

[X] Go see what he wants!

Check with Nicky; it might be important. We can watch Siegel dress down the Saudis some more later.

>>22793751
See what he wants.

Business over pleasure after all, especially in the military.

>>22793751
>[] Go see what he wants!
let's see what the scamp is up too

>>22793751
>[x] Go see what he wants!

>>22793348
>letting it diffuse among the ranks
The entire article talked about WHY such attempts among Arabs never works.
It would be far more effective to subject them to constant and unrelenting training and forcing them to apply classroom, memorized lessons in the field. Exercises like, when they complain that the equipment is the problem, taking it from them an demonstrating that the weapon is working properly. If the tank crews can't hit anything, put us in their tanks and them in ours, and demonstrate that the guns are properly sighted in.

Possibly even separate the officers from the enlisted and shoot the officers with frozen paintballs as part of a fire drill.

But above all, tell them in no uncertain terms that their victory can only be achieved by their deaths. They must kill their Arab selves and become NATO soldiers if they want to win.
And as for the princess, tell her that she's being judged against the British and Imperial Japanese royalty; if she wants respect from other royals, she needs to prove her pedigree.

>>22793751
[x] Go see what he wants!

We can always sic Siegel on the Arabs later.

Oh man, Siegel and Rockfield drill sergeant tag team!

>>22793751
Lets see what Nicky wants. Though we should force the Saudis to do night drills.

>>22793751
>[] Go see what he wants!

I'm missing a good verbal ass whooping, this better be good Nicky.

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>>22793818
>Possibly even separate the officers from the enlisted and shoot the officers with frozen paintballs as part of a fire drill.

All I read was
>shoot the officers

I like it.

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>>22793390
That's lovely.

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>[] Go see what he wants!

You don't particularly want to leave, as watching Siegel tear the Saudis apart is fun, but such is the life of a company commander. Walking over to the vehicle that Nicky is perched on, you see him point down the range towards the targets, and signal for you to take a look with your binoculars.

By God, the gunner of the last vehicle had managed to score a hit. It wasn't a particularly pretty one, high and to the right on the cutout's turret, but nonetheless, it was a hit.

“Holy fuckin' moses!” you mutter to yourself. You drop your binoculars to your chest and hustle the rest of the distance to the vehicle. On board, Nicky still has his binos pressed to his eyes, blinking a few times to make sure that what he was seeing was a real, legitimate hit. It was.

“First time in three weeks, sir! First time in three weeks we've seen a hit! A real, honest-to-God hit!” he says, completely dumbfounded.

[] “Make him do it again, Nick.”
[] “Fuck it, good enough for me!”
[] other

>>22793957
>[] “Make him do it again, Nick.”
If he's competant, make them our right hand men

>>22793957
[x] “Make him do it again, Nick.”
[x] Proceed to continue watching Siegel wreck Arab ass.

We have to make sure it's not a fluke.

>>22793957

[X] “Make him do it again, Nick.”

Practice makes perfect. We may have found a Saudi crew that can shoot worth a shit.

>>22793902
I was thinking that we do it at night.
We tell the officers that, given their reputation and position as the elite of the Saudi military, that we want to test/strengthen that reputation by giving their officers special on-hand training with our special forces, the British commandos, and the French Foreign Legion. We point out that this will be a full-contact exercise with paint rounds.

Then we take them out to the desert, give them a few minutes to orient themselves, and then we make their world nothing but pain and suffering.
We record it all, of course, and at the end we review their failures.

>>22793957
[x] “Make him do it again, Nick.”

"Only ONE? Call me when he hits five. This just means he doesn't have to have to skip all of his lunch."

>>22793957
>[] “Make him do it again, Nick.”
And again, and again, and again, and again. And after he does it a few more times, make him do some more.

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>>22793957
[x] “Make him do it again, Nick.”

"And again and again and again..."

>>22793957
>[] “Make him do it again, Nick.”

That's nice. Do it another five, six, seven, twenty times.

>>22793957
[x] “Make him do it again, Nick.”
And again and again. See if its because of the tank commander or just the gunner.

>>22793957
[X] “Make him do it again, Nick.”

But make sure that the crew of that tank knows that we're happier with them than the rest of the others.

>>22793957
>[] “Make him do it again, Nick.”

and then go to them. it might have taken them 3 weeks
but in the land of the blind, one-eye is king

>>22793957
If they don't hit again dub their tank, "One Shot Wonder", if they do hit give them a pat on the back.

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>[] “Make him do it again, Nick.”

You look down through the hatch at the Saudi gunner. He couldn't be much older than Nicky, though the mustache doesn't help him look any younger at all. He still had his eyes pressed to his scope, looking like he was making fine adjustments. Maybe this one had payed attention to the Kentucky Windage lesson. The rest of the crew that you could see were looking up at you expectantly.

“Make him do it again, Nick.”

“Wai-what? Sir, isn't one good enough for us?” He asks.

“One is outstanding and makes this tank the best out of the lot. If we were having a competition, they'd be winning. Make sure they know that when you pull the terp over. But this is a range. Once might be a fluke.” You reply, looking up at the target.

Nicky just stares for a moment before calling one of the interpreters over. He repeats almost verbatim what you said before hearing it turned into what sounds like a series of loogies being hawked. The gunner, showing incredibly uncharacteristic discipline, still doesn't look up from his gun sight. He takes his right hand off the trigger and taps his helmet twice before gingerly setting his hand back on the handle.

You plug your ears before the thunderclap of the M68 hits again.

By god. He'd done it again. A hit, this time mid and to the right, right in the road wheels of the target.

>>22794301

2/2

“Nicky. That's a mobility kill. The first royal house guards have just killed their first tank.” You say, making sure of what you're saying.

“Holy shit, sir. I just...holy shit. And to think, it only took three weeks!”

“Now, if only their infantry would do the same!” Anderson mutters behind you. He's got a newspaper in one hand, binoculars in the other. In the distance, Siegel was still tearing the tea party apart, much to the amusement of Major Thomas.

“Nicky, give this crew their lunch, and make sure the other Saudis know what they have to do to earn a break.” You say, stepping beside your infantry's commander.

[] “That the times? Mind if I grab a read?”
[] “Oh boy, a newspaper. Anything good in there?”
[] other.

>>22793995
why just the officers, take out all of them, say it is a training exercise like you said, they have to get back to base or some such. shoot the hell out of them with paintball guns (military does this to because it helps the "I just died" sink in.

>>22794301
Walk over to the guy, shake his hand, tell him to start helping the others

>>22794311
[] “Oh boy, a newspaper. Anything good in there?”
what's news?

>>22794311
>[x] “Oh boy, a newspaper. Anything good in there?”

I'm proud of that gunner.

>>22794311
>[] “Oh boy, a newspaper. Anything good in there?”

>>22794311
>[] “Oh boy, a newspaper. Anything good in there?”

mebby info on brothas?

>>22794311
[x] “That the times? Mind if I grab a read?”

Need more news on Yurop and Alaska.

>>22794311

[X] “That the times? Mind if I grab a read?”

That gunner has the touch. Talk to him later about helping the others.

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>>22794311
>Siegel was still tearing the tea party apart, much to the amusement of Major Thomas.

You could say she's mad as a hatter.

>>22794559

Nope, Siegel is just pure unadulterated awesome. I nominate her along with Sushi for "Honorary One of the Guys".

>>22794627

Sushi is already ours.

>>22794728
We won't have any say, her being yandere and all.

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>[] “Oh boy, a newspaper. Anything good in there?”

“Oh boy,” you start, walking back towards where Siegel was giving the Saudi tankers a bad day. “A newspaper. I wonder what things are worth my time in there?”

Anderson chuckles. “Not a whole lot, actually. Few things of note though, you know those air defense nerds over at KFIA? They picked up a shitpile of radar hits over the Persian gulf. Ones that didn't ping their IFF. That's not in the paper though, that's a dispatch from Garrison. Wants to keep us in the know.”

“Wait a second, the fuck? They'd pick up NATO aircraft, right?”

“Yep. Dunno, sir, not much else on that bit. As for the paper, well, you know Iraq, bunch of friggin' loonies given guns. They're getting louder about that whole slant-drilling thing and are now claiming that RSLF 'special forces', whatever the fuck those are, are starting border skirmishes. The kingdom is of course denying both claims.”

You shake your head. “Jesus Christ, those fuckin' retards. They actually want a fight, don't they?”

“Looks like it, sir. Not much else in the news here. Hey, isn't this your brother?”

Anderson opens the paper to a back page, showing a picture of Frank shaking the president's hand. The photo wasn't dated, though the story went on about the Christmas ball at the white house.

You shake your head. “There's a fuckin' war going on, Reds in our back yard, and the goddamn flyboy squid has time to go shake the President's hand. If that ain't some bullshit, I don't know what is.”

>>22794819

2/2

Anderson shrugs, turning to look at you. Pointing at your Green Beret, he starts. “Shit sir, he doesn't have one of those. Or a favor chip. Or a company under his command. Or a charge to hold the Oder-Neisse...then again, that's kinda defunct now. What's he got on you? A few years? A trip to the white house? A navy cross? Who gives a shit? Medals don't mean jack if your boys ain't around to back you up. And words of wisdom, those parties at the white house are boring as hell. Especially for the uniformed.”

He flips to a page detailing the sinking of the Kitty Hawk. “Shit, I wouldn't trade places with him right now anyway. Whatever medal he's gonna get for that flying carrier shit ain't gonna make up for this.”

[] “fuckin' a.”
[] “Not the point, LT.”
[] other

>>22794828
[x] “Not the point, LT.”

He may be a flyboy but he's still our bro.

>>22794828

>[] “Not the point, LT.”

BUt lets drop the thing. All this is leaving a sour taste in the mouth and it's not the sour coffee.

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>>22794828
>[x] “Not the point, LT.”
Welp, don't think Fronk was going for the medal in that case. He is our brother.

Okay, I suggest we take the Saudi's tea from them. And all their other shit.
>>22794828
[x] “Not the point, LT.”

>>22794828

[X] “Not the point, LT.”

There's some obvious sibling rivalry, but Fronk is still Jakepants' older brother.

>>22794828
[X] “Not the point, LT.”

"Anderson, that's my brother you're talking about. He doesn't give a fuck about the medal, if there was a way he could have saved the Kitty he would have taken it."

>>22794828
[x] “Not the point, LT.”

"I chewed out a goddamn German witch for saying the same shit about my brother. Don't make the same mistake as her."

>>22794819
>[x] “Not the point, LT.”
"Ask my crew the last person that tried to talk down about my brother."

>>22795031

Andersons a good guy. Just barking up the wrong tree, lets not.

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>[] “Not the point, LT.”

“Not really the point I'm getting at, LT. I mea- Is that what I think it is?” You ask, looking over at where Siegel was.

“Aw hell. I think so.” Anderson replies, quickly folding the paper back up and tucking it into his new model armor. “Reckon we ought to go over there, sir?”

“Yep. Post haste.” You reply.

Siegel was still there, sure. She was just now yelling at Princess-Lieutenant Fatima Tahira, who had apparently tried to come to her company's rescue. Unfortunately, it would seem she picked the wrong side of the argument to be on, and was defending her tankers. Worse yet, some of them were trying to salvage what tea they could, pouring from the kettle.

By the time you've arrived, it's devolved into a full on screaming match, with Siegel raising incredibly valid points about the shortcomings of the armor company, and Tahira apparently attempting to defend not much but the actions of her officers. Of course, the standard blame of “this gear is crap” is being used to it's fullest extent, something Siegel isn't willing to acknowledge.

“If the gear's garbage, how can we use it effectively? Huh? Can you tell me? Because if it's as bad as you lazy, stupid, self-centered jackasses say, then we're all fucked when the Iraqis roll on us, huh? We must be, because the almighty royal Saudi land forces can't hit shit, and they're the elite of the elite!” Siegel shouts, stepping towards the pe-ell.

Tahira isn't phased by the special forces witch. “The RSLF is the best fighting force in the middle east! The royal house guards are the elite, and they will be treated as such! How dare you come into our country and tell us how to live?!”

[] step in!
[] no, no. Let Siegel handle it.
[] other

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>>22795301
>[] no, no. Let Siegel handle it.
>[] other. get popcorn

also
>elite

mfw

>>22795301
> call in Rockfield

Lets tag team this bitch.

>>22795301
[]step in
>How dare you come into our country and tell us how to live?!”

we aren't telling you how to live, we're teaching you how to fight a modern war.

>>22795301
>[] step in!
let's not let a political polly rumpus start.

>>22795301
No no, let Siegel handle it.

>>22795301

>[] step in!

Hate should be on the commanders, not the grunts.

"Technically, the IDF is the best fighting force in the middle east. Their performance in the 6 Day War and the Yom Kippur War proved that very conclusively when they curb stomped the Arab Coalition"

>>22795398
I'll second this

>>22795301
>[x] step in!
"Your KING, ask us to train you to fight, to TURN you into the best fighting force in the middle east. Right now you have one gunner that can hit an enemy tank, that's one against hundreds of well trained Iraqi tankers. When the Iraqi's invade there will be no Saudi Arabia left at this leave of training."

I'm no good with words but something like that.

>>22795398
>>22795422
>>22795446
Any of these would be 'good' points.

>>22795446
>leave
level*
>no good
not good*

Fuck I'm tired.

>>22795422

This will BURN so much

...Because at this point, you would lose to a JROTC company?

"I don't give a fuck about how you life. I give a fuck about how you FIGHT! Currently your fighting effectiveness is around that of a brick. As in: You are lazing around on the ground and everyone and their grandmother will just roll over you like you weren't there!"

>>22795488
>>22795422

Israel doesn't exist in universe.
No holocaust.

polite sage for infodump.

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>>22795497
They lose to a platoon of retard kids, drenched in fuel, on fire.

>>22795545

I laughed and I am now horrified at myself.

>>22795497
With de-miled 1903s, no less.

>>22795301
[x] step in!
How likely is it that we would be able to convince the King that pretty much his entire officer population is rotten and needs to be replaced with NATO officers? Because I think that would be the most effective way to fix this shit.

>>22795627

Very unlikely

>>22795301
[x] step in
"Your King personally asked NATO to provide us to train you; if you are really the elite, then why would we be needed to train you? In fact, why couldn't your unit in three weeks of instruction, hit any of the targets that have been set up.
"The equipment is not to blame, for we can use them just fine. So the only thing left is operator error. Your royal status is of little worth when you can't even defeat a unit of enlisted peasants a single time even with equivalent equipment. At least the British and Imperial Japanese Royal House units back up their pedigrees with actual results.
"And one final thing: unknown fliers were detected over the Gulf. They weren't ours so they could have only been the Iraqi's. You had best start producing some results, because Iraq is coming far sooner than you think."

>>22795627
Waste of perfectly good NATO officers, at that point should just crater Iraq.

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> [] step in!

You immediately know what you have to do, even though you really don't want to.

“Corporal Siegel, please go see to the strikers. I'll handle this.” you say, looking Siegel in the eye. A brief flash of defiance shows before she stalks off, making sure to kick as many tea cups out of her way as she can.

“Captain, as a member of the Saudi royal family, I must insist you control your personnel!” Tahira starts. She gets about halfway through the next word in line before you're able to cut in.

“You'll stop right now if you know what's wise.” you start, watching the surprise on the pl's face develop. “My company is controlled fully. I authorized Siegel to do what she just did, and you will accept it. Your men, your officers, have shown zero development in the entire three weeks we've been here. They have shown me that not only is Saudi Arabia a useless hanger-on to the other NATO nations, but also a liability. If it were up to me, which you had better thank Allah that it isn't, I would immediately trim the fat from the treaty.

“In these three weeks, you personally have shown me that Saudi royalty is such only in name. The Japanese just stepped into the war, did you know that? The fucking Japanese threw in with NATO, and their royalty actually does things. They fight, and win, because they've trained long and hard to do so. They earn their titles, unlike you, princess-Lieutenant. It must be nice to be given rank, instead of having to earn it.

>>22795912

“I have seen progress with one vehicle. One crew. In three weeks of instruction, your company has a success rate of eight percent. Eight. Do you understand? In order to make your men, your elite house guards, trained to the basic standard of almost every other NATO nation, it would take me another twelve weeks. We do not have that kind of time.”

Princess-Lieutenant Tahira Fatima looks shocked. Maybe someday, she'll accept that she can't get away with murder around you, but apparently today isn't that day. She hasn't offered a single rebuttal, though, her fists are shaking at her sides.

[] Continue!
[] She's done for now.
[] other.

==

I'm gonna take a quick break to go grab food. Apparently someone skimped on going grocery shopping this week. I should be back very shortly.

>>22795301
[x] step in!

Suckerpunch her.

"No so elite now, are you?!"

>>22795924
[x] Continue!

Unload on her. She's earned it.

>>22795924
[X] Continue!

I thought we dealt with this yesterday, if she wants to continue being incompetent we'll continue yelling.

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>>22795912
>>22795924

[] She's done for now.
[] other. (Get back to training the socalled tonkers)

We're done for now and we havn't the time.

About face and get back to the range to resume training.

So much shit to fix.

>>22795925
no.
>>22795924
[] other.
Let's see if she has a rebuttal

>>22795924
>[] She's done for now.
don't go over board, we made out point

>>22795924
[x] Continue!
Ask her if she is ready to die for her country. If she's prepared to get blown in half by a landmine, or burned alive because of ruptured fuel tanks, or hacked to pieces by enemy bayonets.
And tell her if she's not, she should go to the King and ask him really nicely to just surrender to the Iraqis. Either he'll listen and the entire country will be taken over, or he'll have her thrown into a nice, safe prison.

>>22795924

[x] Continue!
-[x] other?
Ask her specifically if she cares at all about these troops under her command, people who actually rely on her for orders. Outline everything we've seen wrong. See if she has anything to say, and tear it apart if it is a standard excuse. Then we will ask to talk with her later. I suspect this is more than just generic incompetence, at least from her.

>>22795924
>[] other
"Got anything to say? Or are you just going to stand there? If not, I'm going back to do your job and mine because clearly you can't handle it, that much is clear."

>>22795979
our* fecking t

>>22795924
>[x]other
See if she shoots back, if not
>[x] Continue!
Keep it up.

>>22795924

[x] Shes done for now

We've made our point, we don't need to continue to humiliate her and beat on a dead horse.

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>>22795924
>[] Continue!

bitch is gonna burn

>>22795924
>[x] Continue!

If one of our own tankers did what she's doing, they'd be sitting in front of a court martial. This is lenient compared to that.

>>22795924

>[] She's done for now.

Anymore and it'll be counter-productive and just us wanting to scream.

We STILL need to work with her.

>>22795924
>[x] Continue!
"In four weeks, maybe less, the Iraqi army is going to invade your country. And Saudi Arabia will fall, because you have shown me that you and your men are neither prepared nor willing to fight for your country."

>>22795924

[x] Shes done for now
[x] Point made, back to work

>>22795924

>[] She's done for now.

>>22795924
>[x]other
So if you don't mind, p.l., how about you stay for a while and see how your men do?
Maybe you'll show us some of your skill later on?
Show them how it's done, huh?

>>22796053
This sums it up, but four weeks? That's generous.

>>22795924
[x] She's done for now.
At the end of the day we still need to work with girl we shouldn't go out of our way to insult her.

>>22795924
[x] other
"The Iraqi's have actually shown they're about to attack within the next few months. Are you going to shape up, or will you be among the first to die?"

Also, how's the training with the Brits and French going? Are they having better luck than us?

>>22796042
Can you say the bitch hasn't earned it? Can you say her horrible conduct and gross incompetence isn't deserving of it?

Going light on her would be giving her preferential treatment based on her royal title and her hoohah, considering what she's done. And she most certainly has not earned any of that.

>>22795924

>[x] She's done for now.

Good enough. Tone it back.

>>22796089

changing to this. let her show how "elite" she is

>>22796116

I'll go light not on her title but more on the fact we need to work with her, not against her and that we're possibly looking at a magic enhanced slap.

Arabs like their 'face' and we just gave her a full dressing down in front of her men.

I honestly don't think much more we can scream at her will match up to that.

>>22795924

>[] She's done for now.

Think we're done here

>>22795912
Other
Ask her to show us her stuff.

>>22796147
>a magic enhanced slap

I fucking dare her to do it. There will be more guns than she can count pointed at her face in a second. Striking a superior officer is serious shit in wartime. We could have her shot for that. She touches us, she's removed from command.

>>22796116
If you had read the article it points out that the problem is the culture and the officer corps.
Even is the princess tried, if the officers are unwilling or unable to make the necessary adjustments, then we have to be directing our ire at them, not just her.
Your actually only directing this at her, who's trying to protect the men under her command from you, rather than directing this speech at the people who need it, the officers and even the enlisted.

>>22796198
She's protecting them. That makes her just as bad as them, in addition to her own incompetence and failings.

>>22796197
Too bad we are NOT her superior officer.

>>22796197

Seriously? Nah.

We get in a fight, it will be our unit that gets removed. It's starting to border on bullying at this point if we go further.

Remember she is NOT in our chain of command, we are just teachers.

>>22796197
Are you stupid?
We're not her superior officer, she's not in our chain of command. She also can complain to the general for our lack of results, and he will have to seriously consider it, especially if the British and FFL contingents have been able to complete their training objectives.
Last thread the general already told us to shut the fuck up and start acting like an officer.

>>22795924

This >>22796089

Let her see what a bunch of grab-asses her "elites" are in mock combat....except for that one gunner who shows promise.

>>22796089
Thirding

>>22795924

>[] She's done for now.

About face and go. Stuff to train, shit to do. No time to waste.

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>[] She's done for now

“With that, Miss Tahira, I'm done. I am now charging you with the responsibility of training your company. My company will be here in an advisory capacity, and that's it. Let's see if you can get some results out of your company.” You say, stepping back.

The rest of the day goes smoothy, if not a bit tensely. A few fluke shots show promise, though their second shots go wide and dash your hopes. Private Haytham, the gunner of the only M60 to hit it's target reliably, is championed by the company. At least they have esprit de corps, you think to yourself. If nothing else, you HAVE seen progress today. Tomorrow, however, would bring a new challenge, you're sure. Fire and maneuver drills are always a good time, and while the Saudis have the concept down on paper, you're sure they'd find some way to screw the whole thing up in practice.

That night, sitting at your desk, running through your training schedule your stomach growls. Most days, you'd be happy to try the local cuisine, but goat skull didn't sound like too much of a delicacy to you, and MRE's are totally out of the question after having eaten them morning noon and night in Europe. A quick rap sounds on your door. Siegel's voice rings out, asking permission to see you.

[] “come in!”
[] “Meet me in the DFAC, I'm starving.”
[] other.

>>22796787
[] “come in!”
lets see what she wants, then go eat

>>22796787
>[x] “come in!”
Food can wait, she's going to call us out on stepping in right?

>>22796787

[x] "Come in"

>>22796787
[X] “come in!”

>>22796826

Probably.

>>22796787
>[] “come in!”

>>22796787
[X] "Come in!"
[X] "Is this something that we'll need the office for, if not, meet me in the DFAC."

>>22796837
Jake really doesn't have luck with women and I'm Not talking about in a relationship way, a general way.

[x] "Come in"

>>22796879

She was enjoying it way too much.

Maybe Jake will go the other way and go full gay.

Hell its possible. Look at Anderson, that sculpted hunk of meat...

[X] "Come in!"
[X] "Is this something that we'll need the office for, if not, meet me in the DFAC."

>>22796879
It might help if he didn't seem to hate the entire female gender for the most part.

>>22796787
[X] “come in!”

>>22796787
[x] “come in!”
Unless it's serious we can invite her to dinner.

>>22796787

[x] “come in!” Found out what Siegel wants, then get chow.

>>22796879

Yeah. He and Jess must've fought like cats and dogs.

>>22796901

Quiet you.

>>22794828
Is this about what Frank doesn't have? I can list what he does have? A small group of loyal very competent witches, being in a theater of the war that isn't a complete clusterfuck, and a nifty prototype. One thing he doesn't have that Jake does is the stick up his ass about women.

>>22796865

gud nuff

>>22796902
This is true, but hate comes from experience or interactions, in this case from the opposite gender.
>>22796901
Rockfield and Sushi are still possibles, so stop.

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>[] “come in!”

“Come in!” you shout, signing away at a requisition form. Next was a stack of AAR's, your dreaded enemy.

Siegel enters your office and stands at attention before you put her at ease, inviting her to sit in one of the folding chairs in front of your desk. She does, squirming a bit to get the seat to warm up. Must be cold to have to sit on one of those with no pants.

“you know, you could always wear a set of pants.” You say, glancing up.

“I'd rather not, sir. Messes with the magic interface of strikers.” She replies, face not betraying any emotion whatsoever. God damn, the 803 were scary.

“Anywho, what's up Corporal?” you ask, knocking out another signature. Why you had to have AAR's for running a range escaped you, but Garrison wanted them on his desk by noon tomorrow.

“Well sir, this is really your top sergeant’s job, but she hadn't knocked on your door yet, so I thought I'd bring it up. The two units aren't meshing well. They're working together incredibly well, of course, but off the range and outside of exercises...well, there's a definite rift. It's not a morale thing, either. The buzz around the company is almost all about Iraq or your brother, which I suppose is good.” She says, not breaking eye contact with you once.

[] “Any suggestions, then?”
[] “It'll work itself out. Join me in the DFAC if you want to talk about it some more.”
[] other.

[x] “Any suggestions, then?”

What two units exactly? As we have Jakes' group, the brits, and the Saudis

>>22796991
[X] “Any suggestions, then?”

>>22796991

>[] “Any suggestions, then?”
>"And can you please elaborate."

>>22796991
[x] “Any suggestions, then?”

If she went through the trouble of finding us, then she certainly has something to say.

>>22796991
[x] “Any suggestions, then?”

I'd be lying if I didn't say I saw this coming.
>>22797014
Our Tankers and the Witches.

>>22796961

I consider those two the front-runners so far, but my opinion of Siegel is moving up as well.

>>22796991

[X] Could you elaborate, Corporal? I also appreciate any suggestions.

>>22796991
>[x] “Any suggestions, then?”
Even though the effectiveness of joint units was proven during the First Alien War, I suppose that afterwards they let integration training fall by the wayside.

>>22797031
That hasn't been made clear what so ever, she just said "two units"

>>22797054
Sounds like it as mixed units seem to be a bit of an unusual thing in 89. I blame hte mounting egos on both sides in peace time.

[x] “Any suggestions, then?”

>>22797046
>Siegel is moving up as well
She is on the chart, not that high, again different opinions.

>>22797093
I think Sushi is the highest so far, though that isn't saying much due to among other things, Jake's he-man woman hating

>>22796991
[x] “Any suggestions, then?”
Nobody's done a mixed land unit before. Air units, yeah, but flyboys aren't as rough as tankers. Personally I think we just need to spend more time around them so we can get used to each other, but it'd be good to hear what the other side thinks.

>>22796991
>>22797022
This. Really elaborate a bit more on this please. What's going on that's causing this rift and such.

>>22797143
>mixed land unit before
IIRC, TWQ was centered around a joint-armored unit.

We could unite them in their mutual hatred of the Saudi chucklefucks.

Seriously, the only Arab armies that aren't the punchline of a bad joke are the Egyptians and the Jordanians, and even the Egyptians aren't all that great by normal standards.

And god only knows how the Saudis deal with witches. Their oil is probably the only reason they haven't already been invaded and deposed by enraged witches over their extreme misogyny and support for same across the entire Islamic world.

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>[] “Any suggestions, then?”

“Well then. Go on?” You start, capping your pen. “You wouldn't have come straight to my office if you didn't have a suggestion. Also, who are the troublemakers?”

She shakes her head. “See, sir, that's the problem. They're not troublemakers, it's that tankers and infantry don't really get to work together this closely this often. The infantry is having trouble adjusting to the new job. Greenie Beanies are meant to teach, right? Well now they're just shooters. It's a big jump for them.

“But what I can tell you is that in Q-Course, we had a battle buddy system...only with non combatant personnel. Mine was a girl named Cynthia Gordon. Striker tech. Sir, I know more about her than I know about myself, and vice versa. I'd say assign specific infantry to specific vehicles, make them the shooters for that tank only, and then they'll probably bond.” She leans back and brushes a lock of hair out of her face.

>Wat say?

>>22797172
Have you read the alternate religions document? The Islamic world isn't completely the same in this universe. It's got some of the more female-friendly and mystical elements left.

>>22797178
"That makes a of sense. I'll speak with Anderson and see how we can arrange that.

By the way, I'm starving. Want to grab something at the DFAC?"

>>22797178
"That's a good idea Siegel, thank you. I'll see to getting it implemented. The transition period might be a bit rough, but we can make it work.

Look, I'm hungry as hell, want to join me at the DFAC?"

Are we going to carry around infantry as dismounts?

They're kinda squishy, and stuff that bounces off tanks tends to not do the same for people.

>>22797214
>>22797222

Sounds great.

>>22797178

"why the heck not"

>>22797172
>And god only knows how the Saudis deal with witches
>They are members of the Royal Family of Saud, inducted as soon their powers manifest

Saudi witches are actually treated better than some of their Western counterparts.

>>22797222
>.
>Look, I'm hungry as hell, want to join me at the DFAC?"

>>22797234
Yes. Did you not pay any attention in the last three(?) threads?

>>22797178
"Sounds interesting. I'll think about it.
You eaten yet?"

>>22797207
Hard to tell considering how little the mid-east of 89 has changed.

I can't help but to feel sometimes Ghost and Mouse are sort of ignoring the changes just to have gulf war/WWIII but with witches.

>>22797222
this

>>22797178

Seconding these

>>22797214
>>22797222

>>22797280
Arabs would be assholes regardless.

>>22797207
Interesting, because IOTL the Saudis became the foremost clan of nomadic desert goatfuckers through an unholy alliance between the clan head and the religious nutjob who came up with Wahhabism, then became a major pain in everyone's ass when the British backstabbed the far more civilized and sane Hashemites and let the Saudis take over the Hedjaz (the bit that has the Holy Cities). They've spent the 90 or so years since then using oil money to live lives of hedonistic excess while simultaneously funding the craziest, most reactionary form of Islam possible around the world to make themselves look pious. They essentially are the reason why modern Islam in the real world seems to be dominated by the lunatics.

Which makes me wonder how their rise to power changed in this world, where they apparently aren't huge assholes. Them not being such titanic cockbags would be kind of a global change for the better.

>>22797178
So, our tanks are the bear in that picture?
I guess that's cool.

"Alright, I'll talk to Anderson and see if we can get something similar put together. Anyway, I'm starving, wanna grab something at the DFAC?"

>>22797334
Yeah, I think they were just the major force left after the Aliums basically razed everything between Tunisia and Palestine to glass and smoke in the SWQ backstory. That, and M0use disregards the supporting materials as he sees fit.

>>22797330
That would be due to the clannishness and the destruction of all the native legal and political institutions when the Ottoman Empire was forcibly dismantled.

Without Salafism as a thing, they wouldn't be as virulently hostile to everyone who isn't their very specific sect of Islam and everyone who isn't trying to turn back the clock on social and cultural progress by about 3000 years or so.

>>22797367
>That, and M0use disregards the supporting materials as he sees fit.

That remark worries me for all sorts of reasons.

>>22797367
>M0use disregards the supporting materials as he sees fit.
Can you give specific examples?

>>22797178
"Good idea".

I'm kind of surprised we weren't doing that already, although I've heard some things about how the US military can be really stupid when it comes to grunt/vic cooperation.

If we do that, though, we need somebody commanding each tank and its parasite infantry as a single unit. Preferably whoever's commanding the tank, since they're in the best position to have time to command without somebody shooting directly at them and without a more urgent task. Make the head of the parasite infantry platoon the XO.

>>22797367
>Yeah, I think they were just the major force left after the Aliums basically razed everything between Tunisia and Palestine to glass and smoke in the SWQ backstory

Just saying, that's both not confirmed/touched on yet, and rather unlikely. The Saudis are still confined to the Arabian peninsula as IRL, not owning the whole Middle East.

>>22797421
The alternate religions doc as mentioned, and parts of the planefag-written list of cities the aliens destroyed over the course of the war.

>>22797482
>and parts of the planefag-written list of cities the aliens destroyed over the course of the war.

The only one that has been confirmed so far is Paris, and that was only "Razed to the ground". Cities can be and have been completely rebuilt; they already did it in Paris once.

Other than Paris, which other cities are you talking about?

>>22797482
>planefag-written list of cities the aliens destroyed
Theres a list?

So how long do we have before we end up in Dubai?

Although admittedly it isn't quite the same orgy of bad taste and excess in 1989 that it turns into by 2012.

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>Wat say?

“I like it, Alexandra. I'll have a talk with Anderson and see what he has to say about it. Could be kinda ugly until the transition is done, but once it is, I think 1ARSOF has it's road paved.” You smile, closing the AAR folder.

Just as Siegel stands up to leave, you manage to stop her. “Hey, Siegel. I haven't eaten yet, have you? Kitchen should be free, care to join me?”

She merely shrugs. “Sure, If you want me to. I didn't have anything else planned, other than some light reading.”

You both head down towards the kitchen, freshly cleaned by some poor member of your company. Cleaning up after sixteen tankers and twelve infantrymen and their mess is no small chore. Whoever drew that detail was undoubtedly passed out on his bunk.

“Anywho, what're you up for? I make a mean grilled cheese. A throwback to my college days.” you chuckle.

“I'm good for whatever, sir. I just want to eat, we don't usually get the time to do so on a deployment with the 803. Or if we do, it's MRE poundcake and to be scarfed in two minutes.”

You wince. Not a fate you'd wish on anyone.

“Well, you might be in a little more trouble here. I can't remember how to cook much anyhow.”

“Wait, wait, sir. You went to college?” She asks, backing the conversation up. “I thought you were a mustang?”

[] Tell her about your days as a duck!
[] Just gloss over it.
[] other.

>>22797564
Nope. This era its Saddam totally raping the ruins of Babylon.

>>22797645
>[x] Tell her about your days as a duck!
And grill up some grilled cheese sandwiches.

[x] Tell her about your days as a duck!

Maybe he should have stayed in college.

>>22797645
[x] Tell her about your days as a duck!

Nothing like a story and a meal.

>>22797645
>[] Tell her about your days as a duck!
might as well.

>>22797645
>[] Tell her about your days as a duck!
As much as I hate to say it, tell her. FUCK THE DUCKS.

>>22797645

>[] Tell her about your days as a duck!

Make some hot food. Make extra for her as well. Women like that.

>>22797645
[X] Tell her about your days as a duck!

While cooking something.

>>22797645
Duck time.

And put some turkey bacon on those sammiches. Also tomato slices, if we don't have tomato soup.

...maybe make a grilled cheese version of a pea soup floater if we do have tomato soup?

>>22797698
>>22797712
>>22797713

Grab a beer for her too. Or hot chocolate.

[x] Tell her about your days as a duck!

>>22797645
>[x] Tell her about your days as a duck!
make it sound as cool as we can

>>22797645

>>22797564
Also, Pants is an intelligent officer. If his orders were to reccy the edge of the city, find out what happened to the 33rd, then retreat behind the stormwall and call it in, he'd do just that, rather than gloryhounding his way into insanity.

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>[] Tell her about your days as a duck!

“Shit yes I went to college!” you reply, making sure to place a thick layer of cheese on the slices of bread. “Running back four years straight! Still hold school records. Won the Heisman even! We'd have gone further, too, but there isn't a championship system for college ball.”

She cocks her head quizzically while sitting at the small table there. “Why didn't you go pro, sir? If you won the Heisman, I'd imagine an NFL team would've snapped you up.”

You shrug, flipping the first sandwich. “Dunno. Guess I wanted a commission more. Woulda been neat to play for a pro team though, I guess, but I can't really imagine myself doing anything other than this.”

“So you really like your command then, eh sir?”

“I dunno. I like my company. It's a shitpile of responsibility though, sometimes I wish it were more carefree. I gotta look out for those guys and now you girls, too. It's a big transition.”

You bring the first grilled cheese off the skillet and onto a paper plate, depositing it in front of Siegel. “Want a coke?”

“No sir, water. Coke's bad for you.”

You recoil in horror. It may be true, but damned if it isn't worth it. “BAH! Health nuts, the lot of you.”

“Sir, I've not been out of Q-course for too long. I still have all those good habits from training.” She smiles. The first time you've seen her do that.

>wat do?

>>22797901
get her a goddamn coke.

>>22797901
Get her a Pepsi instead.

>>22797901
Ask her about her past assignments, those that she can tell us about.

We told her something, so let's find out more about her character.

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>>22797901

Not coke then.

Hot Chocolate.

>>22797901
Get her a diet decaf coke.

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>>22797928
you mother fucker.
You're just as bad as the Communists

>>22797901
Get her a hot chocolate and whip up a sammich for ourselves.

Ask about herself, see if she can talk about her training, any missions she's been on, where she grew up, that sort of thing.

>>22797937
seconded

>>22797937
This + something about why she doesn't smile as often (I don't think Jake has the basic CHA stat to pull off a cute smile remark)

>>22797944
>Hot Chocolate in the middle east

are you fucking retarded?

>>22797928

Assshole.

>>22797953
But coke is more commie than pepsi, what with coming in a red can, and being one of the biggest sponsors of the Beijing (read: ChiCom) Olympics a couple years back.

>>22797968
Not him, but doesn't the desert gets cold at night?

>>22797915
>>22797928
here we go again...

>>22797968

Whats wrong with hot choc?

>>22797901
Hot Chocolate

"Alright, but you're gonna wish you had a coke when the shit starts flying and we're back to eating MRE pound cakes."

Now we ask her what she did before joining the service.

>>22797968
>>Hot Chocolate in the middle east
Deserts are cold as SHIT at night. Spend a week living in a tent in the middle of buttfuck Turkey, then try and tell me hot chocolate isn't a good idea in the middle of the night in the desert.

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>>22797974
Don't you bring logic to this!
We are going to get that girl a coke and she is going to love it.

>>22797988
that's something to drink during cold weather not warm/hot.

also it doesn't go well with grilled cheese.

>>22797982
Well, we are at the height of the Cola Wars right now, so...

>>22798014
see >>22797980 and >>22798006

>>22798006
IIRC it's not the night time yet dumbass.

You must be one of those dumbasses that keep on harping about pillowforts in SWQ aren't you?

>>22798006
Tea is better, though, because you don't need to use water to wash the residue down your throat afterward.

Also, more caffeine.

>>22798028
It's dinner time, just a little after christmas. It'll be dark out.

>>22797901
Iced tea, then. Unsweetened.

>>22798028

It's dinner time.

Shit gets cold. Fast.

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>>22798028
>getting this mad over a dude pointing out that the temperature plunges after dark in the desert

>>22797901
Just get her water like she wants.
Then ask if she's seen the Brits and FFL training their Saudi's and if it's just us or everyone that's having a problem training the Arabs.
I don't want Garrison coming down on us because we're the only ones not performing up to the standards that the other contingents have set.

>>22798076

Chinese Fighting Muffins

www.youtube.com.sg/watch?v=0sKTOdtLdBc

inb4 it's only the afternoon.

>That night, sitting at your desk, running through your training schedule your stomach growls.

It is night time.

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>>22798076
>blueberry fuck muffins

You rang?

>>22797974
I maybe wrong, but isn't Pepsi considered the commie cola because it was one of the few brands imported into the Soviet Union? I seem to remember an old Lewis Grizzard column where he bitched about while visiting the Soviet Union, he wanted a Coke but only got a warm Pepsi instead. Also, didn't Pepsi try to associate their brand with the Anti-War movement in the 60's or some shit with their commercials? I remember seeing a documentary on this, but I'm not sure...

>>22798154
Both mainstream colas are commie as fuck. RC master race.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib-Qiyklq-Q

>>22798175
good man.

>>22798154
Fuck if I know, I just go by taste.

Dr. Pepper > Coke > Pepsi > Pepsi Shit

So to be clear on our course of action, we're going to integrate the Arab forces into ours, and hope that they both get better and feel camaraderie?

>>22798296
No, we're going to assign the Green Beans (Green Berets) individual tanks to work with, getting the two parts of the unit to integrate better.

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>>22798275
>Dr. Pepper
Get the fuck out.

>>22798296
>>22798312
Yeah, we're just talking about the Green Berets. The Arabs are a lost cause, and we're just gonna yell at them until we get bored about it or they actually start to learn something.

>>22798338
>Arabs
>learn something

I ain't holding my breath.

The only thing they might be good for is ablative meat protecting our own troops from the handful of Iraqis that aren't just as incompetent (read: the Republican Guard, who at least know how to fight even if they lack any real initiative or tactical imagination).

>>22798381
If they manage to disable at least one tank, that's one less tank we have to worry about.

>>22798381
The article mentioned that Arabs learn better from Soviet trainers. So the Iraqi's, while not as good as NATO, are still going to be better than the Saudi's.
We need to talk with the Brits and the French to see if they're getting anywhere with their contingents; if we do nothing to improve the performance of the Saudi's, General Garrison is going to come down on us.

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1/2

“Miss Siegel, honestly. Care for something else to drink? Hot chocolate maybe?” You say, flipping your own sandwich.

“No sir, water's fine. Besides, hot chocolate with grilled cheese? Do you even HAVE taste buds?” she replies, making a face.

“Okay, okay. Water it is.” You relent and hand her a bottle of water out of your 'bev-fridge', aptly coined by Michael, your loader. Maybe two days afterwards, some genius with a can of krylon and a cardboard stencil made sure that everyone who ever saw that refrigerator would know about it's name.

Pulling your own sandwich off the skillet before replacing it on a cold burner, you sit across the table from her and crack your coke. You take a long drag off the can, capped with a loud “aaaahh”. Siegel just makes a face and sticks her tongue out.

“So, Seigel. What'd you do before 1ARSOF?” You ask around a mouth of cheese. There's bread there too, but not a lot.

“Not a whole lot I can tell you about, sir. Training, force pro, run ranges. I dunno. Hard to say without saying too much.”

“Alright then, I guess we'll get off that subject. You know how everyone else is doing with their training?” You ask, going back to business.

>>22798454

2/2

She nods. “Sure do. Everyone's having trouble. It's like the Saudis don't want to train. Like, they don't want to or something, or they refuse to learn. Being hard with them doesn't work, being soft with them doesn't work. Hands on, hands off, classroom, range, ftx. Nothing seems to work, sir. Major Thomas can't get them to shoot a target at a hundred meters, and Commandant Du-Cheil is having the same problems.”

“Christ...” you mutter to yourself.

Siegel nods in agreement. “Whole lot of ugly in a little place, sir. Thanks for the sandwich.” She says, cleaning her place at the table.

After cleaning the kitchen and sniping the rest of your paperwork, you've managed to come to a crossroads. In a rare occurrence, the Nintendo is free, but it's late and your bed calls. Decisions, decisions.

[] Nintendo!
[] Bed!
[] other!

>>22798463
Cup of hot cocoa and a late night walk.

>>22798463

>[x] take a walk

PLOT WILL FOLLOW

>>22798463
The Nintendo! It calls to us! HEAR ITS SIRENS SONG!

>>22798491
>[X] other!
walk around a bit

>>22798463
>[] Nintendo!
it'sa me! mario!

>>22798463
[X] other!

Time for midnight emergency drill!

"ALARM ALARM ALARM! WAKE THE FUCK UP! THE IRAQIS ARE! HERE GET YOUR SHIT IN GEAR!"

>>22798454
>“No sir, water's fine. Besides, hot chocolate with grilled cheese? Do you even HAVE taste buds?” she replies, making a face.

I TOLD YOU SO!

[x] Nintendo!

>>22798463
[x] other!
See if the other commanders are up, outline a 'hands-on training exercise' with frozen paintballs and full-contact between NATO and the Saudi's.
Just to get it through their lazy heads that they are going to die if they don't change.
Otherwise, call up P-L and tell her, in private, that she is going to die if she can't get her unit to train properly.

>>22798515

Doesn't that fall under the same rules as shouting fire in a crowded theater?

>>22798515
Specifically, do this with the Saudis.

>>22798463
>[] Nintendo!
And i it IS Ghosts and Goblins we play, GET THE FUCKING KNIFE!

>>22798480
>>22798491
>>22798506

Inb4 running into a crying PL.

>>22798432
That's because the Soviets focus on setting up a plan and making sure that people damn well follow it, and on having comprehensive instructions on what to do should circumstances change. This requires no actual thought on the part of anyone below the rank of general, and only needs a certain minimal level of competence and bravery from the soldiers to work.

Even then, they still couldn't actually make the Arabs competent, they just did a less shitty job than the Western methods which absolutely require initiative and competence from both low-level officers and NCOs to work, along with at least some degree of education among the enlisted.

>>22798522
We know how much they suck in regular target practice. Lets see how much they suck in an emergency situation.

>>22798521
>>22798515
What if we combine the two?
Find Major Thomas and Commandant Du-Cheil, get the approval from General Garrison, we set up a couple of targets that will be "Iraqi armor", and the Saudi's have to hit them.
If they can't, we take them on a midnight drill where we shoot them with paintballs and rubber bullets.

>>22798463
[X] A night time walk to contemplate the desert.

Playing the Nintendo all night will just make us lethargic the next day.

>>22798557
They'll suck every single ball available. All it will do is increase animosity.

>>22798491
>>22798480
I second these. The desert might be pretty at night.

>>22798557
They won't stop running until they hit the Red Sea.

>>22798552
So, what, come up with a third method?

>>22798569
>implying it'd be all night as opposed to a bit to relax.

Night time is for relaxing as opposed to trying to overwork like some "geniuses" are doing.

Just make sure that our plans require absolutely nothing out of the Saudis beyond them not getting in our way when we do all the work. Because they are not and will never be even remotely competent.

About the only possible way to get even minimal use out of them would be to make it clear that the Iraqis might shoot them if they fight but we'll definitely shoot them if they either run or surrender without our express permission, and somehow I don't think high command would like us instituting commissars.

>>22798605
Once you start playing the Videogames it becomes very hard to stop. Case in point the "Till the next save-spot mentality."

>>22798626
>Case in point the "Till the next save-spot mentality."
>implying the NES had save points
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>>22798614
We're the Green Berets. Who the fuck is gonna tell High Command? The Media aren't gonna find out either.

Honestly, telling them "You will fight the Iraqis or WE will kill you" is probably about the only way that we can motivate them. The only thing is we have to actually have the balls to follow through on that threat.

>>22798626
and like trying to walk in the dessert is a good idea? People tend to get lost and thus either fry in the day time or freeze in the night time.

I wonder, do the witches show any more initiative than the regular officers? Because PL has been pretty vocal and active in complaining, at least.

If they *are* better at thinking, then perhaps we could get them to arrange forces into, for lack of a better word, Kampfgruppe, led by a witch who could be sort of reasonably expected to use initiative in directing their troops at a platoon or company level.

>>22798638
Green Berets don't work that way.

>>22798638
Let's call that "Plan B".

>>22798638
How about the General right behind us?
This is one of the most retarded ideas put forth so far.

>>22798641
When I suggested contemplating the desert I meant doing it from around the compound. I agree that going out and wandering the desert at night is an incredibly dumb idea.

>>22798638

this is fucking retarded. If you're going to suggest that we kill our allies every thread, I'm starting to think that maybe you shouldn't be participating in quests at all.

>>22798649
IIRC, the Kuwaitis were much better IRL, although that's probably because they had some incentive to have an army that wasn't a huge pile of fail.

Basically, they only had what in a larger Arab country would be considered the elite force (the Republican Guard, the Arab Legion, etc.), so they could actually fight reasonably well. They were just doomed because of sheer numbers when the Iraqis came.