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First eleven threads:
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Blatant%20Fetish%20Quest
http://archive.foolz.us/tg/thread/23072794/

Previously on Blatant Fetish Quest, our protagonist, Max Powers, learned that he was actually a female with male genitalia, as a result of having a deadbeat incubus as a father. Three years later, Max, now extremely fit and a martial arts hobbyist, boards a plane for Romania to enroll at the prestigious Scholomance, a school for magic. You befriended a fellow student, Liz, on the plane, and decided to stay with her in Paris for an extended layover. On arriving in Romania, you learned that the Scholomance is extremely deadly and that only half of each class proceeds to the next grade each year.

You joined the Lotus prestige society, befriended Dane, a fourth-circle Lotus, and Lin, a prospective Lotus in your same year. Upon arriving at the Scholomance, a city-sized school hidden in a cave that's bigger on the inside, you started exploring the place. You explored a tower that seemed perfect for your own sanctum, then found an incubus who's probably your father chained up in the basement.

Lin just told you she reincarnates and slowly regains her memories of past lives, Liz showed you a little affection, and you have a field of magical bonds in mind that might make your father safe to be around.

What do you do now?

The lab where I was supposed to be today had a chemical fire, so here's a new thread early.
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>>23124466
Oh, I wasn't expecting a new one until Wednesday. Let's nod and give Lin a wink, let Liz spend a little while longer rubbing her cheek against us, and then rush on off to the library.
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Let's head to the library and get researchin'.
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>>23124466
I love fire <3

to the library, to research get the book need to make dad on the level and something on cleaning magic
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>>23124605
Agree.
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FemCock you little Beauty.

We need to find some way to free our father without him being dangerous to us, lets head back to the library and see what we can research.
What did our father say was needed to make him safe again?
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>>23124659
"Bonds of Blood" is what he said to research.
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>>23124686
well lets zip up our pants and go
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>>23124697
Pull up our pants, in this case. We don't have a fly to zip up.
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>>23124686
Alright BlatantFetishQuest, it's time to do some serious reading!
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>>23124621
>>23124605
Before we go to the library, ask dad how to find specific books there.
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Research shit. Let's get our dad free so we can learn first hand from him. Having a personal fifth circle mage and a powerful incubus as a tutor could be very helpful.
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I don't think freeing our father is on top of our list of priorities. Making a bond of blood will probably take days or weeks of research. anyway.

Let's work on mind screening, we already have the book.
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>>23124786
He's dangerous, we can't risk freeing him until we can guarantee our safety.
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You let Liz nuzzle your cock for a little while longer while giving Lin a nod and a wink. She takes her hand out from between her legs and gives you a wink right back. You gently push Liz off of you and pull up your pants. "My dad said to research Bonds of Blood in the library. He said that's a way to bind him without using advanced conjuration or his true name."

"Well, lets get going, then," says Lin, starting her way up the ladder. Liz gives you a long hug and buries her face in your neck, then follows after. You take the rear and use the opportunity to look up Liz's skirt. Her panties are striped. She either doesn't notice or doesn't mind, because you get a pretty good view.

Once you back at the top, in the room with all of the gear for the clocktower and the fallen wall, you find Lin standing at the collapsed wall section, pressing against the air with her hands. "It looks like the wards extend all the way up here," she says. "What's the plan?"

What is the plan?
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>>23124823
Everyone hold on to the key and just walk out?
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>>23124823
Check the elemental and binding runes. See if there is a way to modify ward permissions or to temporarily power it down.
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>>23124789
Also, we have a few more things to discuss with the girls.

Now that they know that a demon is our father, we might as well tell him what we learned from him when they were not there, and get their opinions on how to deal with him.
Tell them that he's a 5th circle mage, and that if we find a way to ensure his loyalty, we'd like to free him, to serve as a tutor and maybe as a father too.
Ask them what they think of using this tower, now that we know a bit. About that, we should go ask dad where the portals lead to/from, and how to close safely the incoming one. Of course we'll check the information.
Could we spend the next night here ?
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>>23124823
hold hands if not ill carry you two down one at a time

also please tell me we broke the in bound portal
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>>23124823
Either >>23124852 or >>23124854 work for me.

Also, god damn, Liz is getting adorably clingy right now. I'm a bit of a sadist myself, so seeing a sub get that attached to our character makes me giddy. Not an abusive, violent sadist, by the way; I'm more of a manipulative sadist with a penchant for extreme bondage. I expect many, many leather belts in our future.
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>>23124823
Go take a look at how the elemental is holding up. If it looks like its energy will run out soon, we might as well shut down the wards.
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>>23124898
Let's ask dad and do this now.
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>>23124923
Well, that depends on how soon 'soon' is. If we're talking less than an hour, we may as well have some more fun with Liz while Lin watches.
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>>23124879
We also have to tell liz that he said, for what it's worth, that the archmagi like to manipuate students.

And ask Lin some more about what she remembers of her previous lives.
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>Blatant Fetish Quest XII
>XII
Oh /tg/.
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Later, when we can get a moment alone with dad, we'll have to ask him about the powers of our dick. Could we knock up a girl, and how does that interect with birth control?

We also could text our mom something like "Hey mom, I love you and I know you love me too, but I must ask : were you on the pill when you concieved me ?"
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>>23125028
And some of the threads have gone past 600 posts.
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>>23125055
She knows we're hot with a girl, she would have told us
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>>23125055
Oh god
>Human contraceptives being powerful enough to stop supernatural infernal demon sperm
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You head back down to the levels with the inbound ring, the outbound ring, and the power ring. The elemental looks about half-depleted already - knowing that this place was designed to be powered by a fifth-circle well-fed incubus, that's not too surprising. You break the inbound portal, making a simple break in the ring. It should be easy enough to fix later with alchemy or a welding torch, and should stop its use for now.

You head back down to the base of the tower to ask your father a couple of questions. "Hey, dad, do you know where the outbound and inbound circles go to and from?"

"The outbound circle can go anywhere, it's just the only way to teleport out of the tower. Standing in it lets you do outgoing conjuration - banishing, teleportation, that kind of thing. We used to use it to dump our trash. The inbound one can only be used by someone with a key, but it can be used to teleport in and summon things in."

"We snapped the inbound connection."

"Good thinking."

"Is there any way to make new keys or change what key signal this place responds to?"

"Yes," he says. "It's hard and it will take a long time, though. I can help you with that once you bind me."

You head back to where Liz and Lin are.

"We could try to find a way back up to the upper levels by leaving through the front door," Lin suggests.

"Then we would have to leave it unbarred," says Liz. "We should just wait for the elemental to run out."

What's your plan?
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>>23125074
Maybe she always thought it was an accident like it happens with regular men.
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>>23125074
She also reminded us to wear a condom, just pointing out. It's not a bad idea to ask Mom about that (and the possibilty of sterility, while we're at it).
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>>23125089
Fuck while we wait for the elemental to run out.
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>>23125089
I'm tempted to suggest fucking, but let's spend the time cleaning the place up a little. Make it even remotely livable.
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>>23125089
The elemental has only lasted what, a half hour thus far? Let's have some fun with Liz while we wait. Lin can watch or not as she prefers.
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>>23125089
yea lets read till then

unless you girls can think of something better?
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>>23125089
Wait for the elemental to run out.

Lets get freaky.
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>>23125089
>"We should just wait for the elemental to run out."
"What for ?

But why not. I actually want to study mind screening before going back to the library."

By the way, does the corpse has any distinctive jewelry or clothes ? I wonder if dad could identify him. Maybe it's not petrov.
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>>23125174
He said yesterday that it's probably not Petrov, that it's probably one of the two Dextra Domini that were left in his circle when Petrov betrayed him.
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>>23125125
I get the feeling Lin is a voyeur, and is going to not ask us to fuck her, but to fuck Liz in front of her. Regardless, I goddamn approve. Also, if we gain Lin's trust and get really confident with her, she seems dominating enough to keep Liz on a leash while we're gone, if need be.
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>>23125185
He did ? Well, let's make sure if we can.

>There was a second key! The last two besides me and Petrov were Dextra Domini!
Hm... So there is four keys ?
And that means an incubi and a summoner were allied with Dextra guys ?
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>>23125238
He's saying there were two keys and that he and Petrov were in an alliance against the two Dextra Domini assholes.
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>>23125197
Hmm. We want to be careful, though. We don't want to break Liz. That would be bad, both because we LIKE Liz, and because she's more useful un-broken.
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>>23125238
No, I think the final four were two Dextra punks and Dad and Perov. The Dextra punks apparently won once Dad and Perov self destructed.
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>>23125263
No, no, I mean "keep on a leash" as in if we have to go investigate something by ourselves and Liz is being really clingy and wants to come along, we can let Lin placate her. Breaking toys is never fun.
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>>23125238
>>23125280
Oh, right, he was at the stage where there's four students, and that was the last two students, not the last wo keys.
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>>23125304
And I agree. I'm just pointing out that too much leash-keeping risks breaking her.
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>>23125346
>>23125304
I kinda agree. I don't think that letting/pushing her to be submissive to other people will be good for either of us in the long run.
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"Sure, let's wait for it to run out. It shouldn't take too long with how small it's already gotten. I wonder what we should do while we wait?" you ask. Liz doesn't seem to get the innuendo.

"We could probably study these wards some more, get some idea of how to manipulate them," says Liz, taking out the books.

"I think Max had something else in mind," says Lin. It takes Liz another couple seconds to catch the hint.

"Oh. Oh! I... Are you sure that's a good idea? I mean we already... In front of Lin," she says, now blushing and fidgeting.

"I don't mind," says Lin, smirking at her. "I wouldn't want to rain on anyone's parade."

You walk up to Liz, head held high and back straight. She looks at you with... fear? Respect? Excitement? When you get to her, you pull her skirt up and pull off her panties. "I'll keep these," you say. She melts into your kiss. You ditch your pants, put on a condom, and lift Liz up to pin her against a wall. You feel Lin give your ass a pinch and give a low whistle.

Then you start pounding into Liz while Lin watches. Liz tries to retain her composure and look embarrassed, but soon she gives in completely. "Oh... Oh god... Oh please, yes, fuck me harder, Max," she begs. You see Lin unfasten her jeans and slip a hand into her pants as she watches.

You're not sure how much longer it is before the designs on the wall go dark and the wards go down. Liz is too out of it to walk or talk.

What do you do now?
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>>23125385
Sling her over your shoulder and book it to the library.
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>>23125385

>>23125412
this
you cumming Lin?
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>>23125385
Hmm. Looks like we overdid it. Let's look into the wards a bit with Lin while we wait for Liz to recover.
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>>23125440
>fucks to pass the time until the wards are down
>fucks too hard so we put the wards back up to recover in peace
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>>23125385
Try to enchant her a little to give her some energy back.
Ask Lin what time it is.

See if the corpse has recognizzable items or features, check with dad. He was killed by claws, so it's probably a dextra killed by petrov, but how did he get the key ?
Ask dad for library-searching methods too.

Then get out by the front door and try to find our way out. Be wary of not being seen, or detected.

Text mom about our conception.
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>>23125385
Take the time to discuss with Lin about her past lives while Liz recovers.
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Why are we not worried about who Lin used to be?
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>>23125480
Heh. That would indeed be unfortunate, because our summoner is currently a drooling heap of bliss.
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>>23125385

>>23125423
Yes. YES. "Hey Lin, you coming?"
>"OH GOD YES, YES." Lin doubles over, her face grinding into the cold floor as she grunts and gyrates her hips in a pleasure-induced stupor. After a few more spasms and indecent twists of her ass, which is sticking up in the air and shaking gleefully, she pulls her now-soaked and shining hand from her groin, greedily licking the film from her first two fingers.
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>>23125503
Why did I not think of this? This is what we need to do, right here.
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>>23125505
Because we unlocked her character sheet.
Considering the nature of this quest I find it safe to assume she's our bitch until we fuck up on a grand scale.
Also we can just play as her if she backstabs us and then force her to snap her own neck.
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>>23125512
>>23125480
>>23125385
Also, next time we talk to Liz about other girls, this is a good example of us having multiple outlets being a good thing. Fucking her into a puddle of ecstasy is fun, but not something that should be overdone.
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>>23125541
Yes, this is a perfect opportunity to get some info out of Lin, and persuade Liz into being a bit more receptive to our harem collection urges. If we have to only use her every single time we, as an incubus, get a boner, she might as well be permanently disabled from being fucked senseless every hour or two.

Heh, I wonder if dad can hear us doing these things? If he's so sensitive to sexual energy, do you think he can notice when we're fucking?
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>>23125576
Lol it's like we've gone and opened a McDonalds right outside the Auschwitz fence.
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>>23125593
It'd be hilarious if we could fuck in front of dad, and that alone was enough to get him at least on his feet and functioning again, even if he'd be running on fumes.
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>>23125512
>>23125385
Careful guys, we don't want to get deleted again.
Where is the line here?
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>>23125618
I think it was blatant-ness in the OP that did it last time.
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>>23125618
>Blatant Fetish Quest
Any true browser would just use the catalogue and filter these threads.
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>>23125576
hell it could have recharged him a bit
>>23125593
or that I prefer to think of it as a jimmy deans
cause his daughter would be taboo like pork to jews
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>>23125634
I'm just worried about the story being disrupted.
Last time FemCock got a one day ban, next time it could be longer.
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>>23125618
I thought this was pretty cautionous from femcock
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>>23125618
I think as long as we keep it non-descriptive about the actual act of fucking, it's staying safely close to behind the line. We'll probably be in trouble when it gets to the point of describing the act in grave detail.

>>23125634
I don't know how anyone can function on 4chan without the catalog nowadays. It completely obsoletes the front page. Most of these "I fucking hate these threads please ban them" complaints would disappear if they'd take five minutes to learn how to use the catalog.
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You give Lin a wink as you set Liz down to recover. You don't give her back her panties, but you do have her lick you clean. You give Lin a wink while she's buttoning back up her pants and licking off her fingers.

"So, how much of your past lives do you remember?" you ask Lin.

"Not much," she says. "The last time I was here was... I think in the 1800's? I think I was an English man. The time before that was during the reign of Saladin. I was a Turk. I was in the Society of the Archmagi one of those times... I don't remember what circles I got to. I do remember that I remember more as I get older, but right now... It's a blur. Sorry."

"Hey, it's better than nothing," you say. Liz is still meekly sucking and licking you clean when she pipes up.

"We should head out soon. Can I have my underwear back?"

"No," you say, simply. You stuff them in your pocket. She blushes but doesn't protest.

"I'll probably need your help getting down from the tower and back to the rooftops safely."

"Me too," says Lin. "And apparently it's a bad idea to leave through the front door, since then it would be unbarred and unwarded."

How do you handle this?
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>>23125634
hey I just learned about those features a few weeks ago best thing ever

sage to preserve bump order
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>>23125724
With aplomb, of course. We can give them some freerunning lessons or something later so we don't need to babysit the door.
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>>23125724
Help them get out of the tower on the rooftops method then head to the library.
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>>23125724
help them down we got them up we can get them down

also remember to pick up some rope
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>>23125724
Let's see about closing the door (assuming we didn't earlier) and then help the girls get down.
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>>23125724
don't worry ladies ill carry you to safety (flex)
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You decide to help them out through the top with free running, boosting, and catching them. Roll Body to help them. I'll take the best of the first four rolls.
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>>23125775
No, no rope. We don't want to make the entrance any easier to enter then it already is, after all.
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Rolled 95

>>23125852
Here's hoping we don't faceplant.
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Rolled 67

>>23125852
Dice dont fail me now!
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Rolled 14

>>23125852
it begins
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>>23125861
And we really fucking don't.
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Rolled 63

>>23125852
rollan
>>23125861
nice
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Rolled 94

>>23125852
Rollin' dem bones.
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>>23125861
time to soar
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Rolled 33

>>23125861

Max strong like bull
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>>23125861
Bravo sir, bravo.
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>>23125861
We continue to be a fucking ninja.
We should alchemy up some smokebombs and shit.
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>>23125861
You get everyone back to a proper path safely and quickly, helping to boost them over gaps or catch them on drops. Liz seems extremely embarrassed every time her skirt flares up and exposes her. This pleases you enough to reach under and give her ass a nice squeeze. She gives you a face like she's protesting, but leans into it.

Once you're back to the main path, you proceed quickly to the library. When you get there, the librarian is sitting at her desk, and just glares at you unreservedly as you enter. She doesn't say anything, just keeps fucking glaring.

You realize that you have no idea how to find a book on the topic your father suggested.

What's your strategy?
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>>23125940
Ask the fucking eagle-librarian. Or have Lin ask for you
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>>23125940
Just ask the librarian. She can glare all she fucking wants it dont make me no difference.
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>>23125940
wisper so I sorta forgot to ask how do i find a book I want? like magic to clean a place or anything really "
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Ask. Shes likely to know where everything is and is used to students getting up to all sorts of shenannigans. Probably would know even if you tried to hide the fact you're reading a book in HER library.

Be polite. Might be a good idea to get on her good side. You're gonna be spending lots of time here.
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>>23125940
>>23125964
>>23125967
Let's have Liz or Lin ask. We already have a book out.
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>>23125940
Ask the librarian, gauge her responses to you.
It would be nice to know what her problem is.

Then give her the dick.
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>>23125940
Ask to see the catalog, so we don't need to ask her things again.
Also fucking WHISPER.
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Rolled 26

>>23125940
Ask the librarian to show us how to find books, so we don't need to bother her again. Be polite, she probably is a strong mage.
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>>23125989
Sounds good.

And whisper for sure. Glaring is inconsequential. I don't want to deal with the bats though..
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"You should ask her to help us find the book," you whisper Liz.

"What?" she hisses back. "Why do I have to do it? She's scary."

"Because she's probably still mad at me for yelling in here earlier."

"...fine," says Liz, then walks off to go ask her. With many huffs and sighs and a few more glares, the librarian leads you through the library to a thin, old, leather-covered book on bonds of blood.

"Is that everything?" the librarian asks, giving you three a steely look.

"...yes. For now. Thank you," Liz squeaks out.

What do you do now that you have the book?
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>>23126050
Study the shit outta it.
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>>23126050
Read it

We need to get some form of book we can write in to keep notes.
Anything important, ideas, things like that.
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>>23126050
Find a private corner and commence the studying.
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>>23126050
Learn about blood bonds, obviously.
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>>23126050
Study that booooook.
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>>23126050
Snap the book's spine.
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Rolled 50

>>23126050
yep read have liz help and lin we we got it good make our way back to the tower
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>>23126050
Study hard.
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>>23126085
Seconded
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It's time to study hard. You go off to a private corner of the library to start taking a look at the book. You stick your hand up Liz's skirt and start fondling her ass as soon as you turn a corner from the librarian. You eventually find a nice little dead-end in a narrow hall of books whose titles are all in Latin. You sit down and start reading it with Lin and Liz, trying to understand it.

Roll Mind. You get a bonus from both having help and from having an appropriately-specific book, so I'll take the best of the first four dice.
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Rolled 41

>>23126136
Lol brick time
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>>23126136
Here we go
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Rolled 84

>>23126136
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Rolled 29

>>23126136
Lets try that again
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Rolled 43

>>23126136
Swagger

>>23126150
lol
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>>23126136
>hallway where everything's in Latin
Shit, this has got to be the SINGLE most likely place to run into someone else.
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>>23126154
here we go
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>>23126154
You manage to get through it pretty well. Aside from being a treatise on how to summon things based on blood relations, it talks about very specific methods of binding spiritual beings. The one relevant to you is the Bond of Blood. In it, two blood relatives who are spiritual beings - such as a demon and its progeny - shed blood together and swear an oath. Any such oath is binding, and was used in days past to secure loyalty from heirs in exchange from promises of tutelage and protection.

Such oaths would be completely ineffective with anyone who didn't share at least some blood relation, even if distant, and possess at least a significant portion of spiritual ancestry.

You feel surprised that your father would know about something so specifically appropriate to the situation, but when you consider it, you suppose that it would make sense for a fifth circle spiritual being to know all about ways to bind things like him.

Well, now you have this information, and the ritual seems relatively simple. What do you do now?
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>>23126154
Celebratory makeout.
Just Liz though. Or make a move in N's direction after kissing Z, then stop and kiss Z again.
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Rolled 6

>>23126255
We need to work out how we will word the oath.

And we can't have it completely one sided, otherwise our father may not swear it.
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>>23126255
What the hell, let's study just a bit more and fill in that box of Mind. No longer will we be mentally deficit!
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>>23126255
Bust out some razorblades and get oathing. We can go fin someone for him to bang after the binding.
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>>23126256
Quiet, you. Fun as that would be, there's work to be done. I think our next step should be to hash out the wording for the oath we're going to make our father swear.

Now, I think it would be prudent to do this in the Tower, with the wards up again. Less likely for it to be overheard that way.
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>>23126255
Is there a way to ascertain that the spiritual beings are indeed related before making the bond? In this book or another ?
I'm pretty sure Dimitry is our father, but it might be all a conspiracy.

Copy the ritual on a piece of paper (do they have photocopiers in this library ?). Then start studying mind screening.

What time is it ?
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>>23126255
ok lets go do this

also find a book on cleaning magic fuck scrubbing dust and mold form our new home
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>>23126301
This sounds good. It would only take a little bit, and we could use an extra roll on the mental stuff. Two shots at success isn't much.
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>You're not sure how much longer it is before the designs on the wall go dark and the wards go down. Liz is too out of it to walk or talk.
Hm... is that because she really exerts herself when we fuck, or because we're magically draining her of her energy ?
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>>23126357
That's actually a good question, and one we should pose to Dad once we've got him under Oath.
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>>23126381
>>23126357
Nah, we're just that good with the dick.
If that were the case she'd have been passing out all over Paris as well.
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>>23126357
That is a good point. It may be worth looking up the characteristics of half-incubi, we need to know more about ourselves anyway.

Also, it may be worth at some point making a list of all those in our year. Note down who they are affiliated with, strengths, etc etc. Keep track of who's who. They will be our rivals for the foreseeable future after all.
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Rolled 15, 13, 2 = 30

>>23126310
I think a short makeout time would not make us late...
But I agree with the rest. We'll have to spend some time on writing up the oath.

>>23126329
Good idea.
We really need to find out how to search for books in this place. Did observing the librarian gave us hints ?
Can I roll mind for this ?
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>>23126399
we don't really know how our body works, it's possible that our incubus blood is starting to react to us having this much sex
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>>23126424
Never, EVER, roll anything ever again.
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>>23126424

>>23126438
this
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>>23126357
Probably both, sadly enough. She wanted an "open" fuckbuddy relationship, so she's clearly invested in getting as much pleasure out of the fucking as she can. On top of that, yeah, Incubi drain energy through sexual contact. It might be in our interest to either restrain ourselves and show a little care for Liz's wellbeing, or get Liz to take it easy and/or train/prepare herself for fucking. Which way we take it, of course, in this case, depends on if we want her to become emotionally submissive, or if we want her to become even more physically submissive.

In any course of action, our fucking is clearly hampering her ability to function, and she's clearly not going to stop us on her own. She's too obedient in that regard. We need to either find a second hole to dip into, or we need to somehow mitigate the wear on her body. In the long, long term, we may become powerful enough that literally fucking her to death may become a serious risk.
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Rolled 7, 75, 3, 36, 58, 98, 82, 55, 26, 28 = 468

>>23126424
My rolls have been pretty bad this entire quest, but bro...
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Rolled 43, 48, 51 = 142

>>23126438
>>23126465
>>23126485
Oh, come one. I bet I can do much better this time.
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>>23126496
Still all failures.
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Rolled 72, 82, 2, 63, 30, 61, 83, 30, 79, 34 = 536

>>23126496
You did better, but still pretty bad. Under 50% just like me.
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Rolled 73, 44, 2 = 119

>>23126496
You see ? I can do about average too.
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>>23126517
One success.
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>>23126517
>>23126507
>>23126496
>>23126485
Why must you fools invite the wrath of the dice gods?
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>>23126524
What IS considered a success in this quest? Anything over 70?
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>>23126535
70 or higher.
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>>23126255
study and fill out that mind box
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>>23126550
We'll need it if we keep up these rolls...
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>>23126548
So, the individual rolls each have a 30% chance of success, but the amount of rolls we get is what increases our chance of success overall. A neat system. I'm not too familiar with a ton of tabletop systems; did you get this system from something else, or make it up yourself?
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Rolled 33

>>23126548
Any items or enchantments to lower the required toll available or are all buffs just going to be look at more dice.
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>>23126565
I fucked that post up.

roll* not toll

add ? at the end


And not for every roll ,but certain tasks.
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How do you expect to be an archmagi if you're such a subby Liz?
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>>23126564
>So, the individual rolls each have a 30% chance of success, but the amount of rolls we get is what increases our chance of success overall. A neat system.
I think it's not that neat, frankly. It means that even for relatively easy tasks (with 4 or 5 dice), we have a relatively big chance to fail.
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You decide that now would be a good time to head back to the tower. The next part would probably be best behind the protection of the wards, after all. Liz checks out the book and you all scurry on back to the tower. It's easier for everyone to get up in it this time, now that you know how to actually do it, though Liz's skirt still keeps flipping up, much to her embarrassment.

When you get in, Liz heads down and conjures another small spirit to power the wards back up. You head down to talk to your dad. "Hey, we got the book. We're trying to figure out the wording of the oath."

"Good. Be careful with the wording, this oath is a big deal. Neither of us will be able to break anything we swear under it, not even under the effects of mind control. You're... You're doing great, Max. Don't trust me, though. After so long down here, I could be crazy in ways I don't even know. That's why this oath is so important."

"I... Okay, dad," you say. You're still not sure how to feel about all of this. You head back to where Liz and Lin have set up at the kitchen table. They're already starting to brainstorm on the wording of the oath.

I'm going to give you guys one hour to come to consensus on the wording of the oath. I understand this will probably lead to some huge arguments, hence the time. To make it clear, Max will swear one oath and Dimitry a second.

Get to work, you beautiful perverts. I'll try to answer questions that the book would anwer or they would know.
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>>23126564
It's just a basic, crappy dice pool system.
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>>23126399
We only legitimately fucked her once or twice in Paris. The rest was blowjobs and strapons.

And maybe they need to be more emotionally charged for it to work better or something. Its definitely worth investigation.
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>>23126666
>6666 quads

Seems appropriate for a demonic contract

Also there's a sshitstorm a brewing.
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>>23126666
>6666
Appropriate for demon binding, no?

Anyway, just what scope do these oaths cover? How powerful are they, and how is obedience enforced (magical punishment on breach, instilled compulsions to obey, etc)? Just what is expected of our end of the bargain? And do we really need to go over this with a fine comb, considering that the demon in question is largely willing?
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>>23126666
Ohhhh, you son of a bitch. You may acknowledge it, but you do not comprehend the storm which you have summoned.

Okay, guys, before we start wording it up, let's get our priorities for the oath straightened up first. What things do we want to swear to dad, and what do we want to have dad swear to us?
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>>23126666
>I'll try to answer questions that the book would anwer or they would know.
Anyway to make sure it is our father ?
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>>23126755
If it doesn't work, he's not. The oath only works on parental relations.
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>>23126738
The oaths cover actions that the person undertakes and they instil a compulsion to follow them so intense that they cannot be resisted, even with Enchantment. There's no expected end. You could swear anything at all, as long as it's in your power to do it/not do it. You can be as precise as you want with your wording - the real question is how much you trust him, and how careful you want to be.

>>23126755
Beyond a shadow of a doubt? The only way is to try to sign the oath. If he's not your blood relative, it won't work on either of you.
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>>23126755
If he isn't, the oath won't work. Not a big deal
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>>23126743
Well, the obvious first: he must swear to protect the person, possessions, and secrets of ourselves and our friends wherever possible (this, naturally, precludes raping anyone), and share all information that could benefit us freely.
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>>23126666
stupid question time: what do we want from our "dad"? protection? knowledge? before making the oath we need to figure that out
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>>23126655
Statisticaly you have over 51% chance of success with 2 rolls.
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>>23126797
/tg/ dice have never bowed to statistics.
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>>23126789
Sounds good. All we really need here are the basics, since he's largely willing to help us anyway. Not like we're dealing with a genie or something.

As for our end of the deal, I'm thinking swearing to keep his nature and presence secret from those demonhunting assholes, and... That's all I can think of, actually.
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>>23126666
For Dimitry
I swear not to do anything that would cause harm to Max, Liz, or Lin, in any manner. I also swear that I will never do anything Max, Liz, or Lin disapprove of.
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Father's Oath
-shall not harm me our mine. (including allies, friends and family)
-shall aid me in my endeavors
-shall not work against me
-shall tell the truth to me and my closest allies in all things
-shall teach me all he can that Im willing to learn

Max's Oath
-I will learn all that he knows that I'm willing to learn
-I will free him from his prison
-I will do my best aid him in healing that the damage taken from his imprisonment
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>>23126743
We want him not to do anything that would hurt or restrain us or the individuals we designate.
We might want him to support us too.

Problems: we might need being restrained at one time or the other, maybe because of mind control; in case of betrayal from a friend, we might need him to restrain those too. And we don't want his support in every aspect of our lives.

What about the laws of robotics ? Could we use an adapted version ? What are their shortcomings ?
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>>23126789
Share with Max and those Max has deemed worthy through her own volition, free of any compulsion magical or otherwise.

As you worded it he could be compelled to share that info with our enemies.
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>>23126853
Be careful. "Free him from his prison" can be taken to mean releasing him from the blood oath.
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>>23126776
>>23126770
If he isn't our father and lied about it, he'll lie too about being under the effect of the oath until he's free.
There probably won't be a green light indicating that it works.
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>>23126853
>do my best to aid him

You basically just said you'd let him fuck you.

>>23126882
But that's not in our power to actually do.
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>>23126882
add a qualifier like current imprisonment then
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>>23126853
>Max's oath
Redundant, redundant, and NOPE, BAD IDEA.
This oath is specifically to protect us from a horny as fuck incubus, swearing THAT is giving him a free pass to say "Ok, you can heal me by getting assraped. All of you."
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>>23126853
We are in a position of power, just promise to free him and we're good.
Also can't we just use the three laws of robotics for his oath?
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>>23126918
or find him someone to fuck.

>>23126931
hence you will not harm me. raping someone is a huge HARM
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>>23126933
>Also can't we just use the three laws of robotics for his oath?
That seems perfect.
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>>23126853
>-I will free him from his prison
>-I will do my best aid him in healing that the damage taken from his imprisonment
Why would we take such bothersome oaths ? I don't want to be forced to give him girls.
He's in no position to negociate anyway. The oath is for our benefit, not his. If we want to help him, we'll do it out of our own free will.
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>>23126933
If he was 3 laws compliant, then he could not attack our enemies.
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We need to be careful that our wording doesn't protect any turncoats we may end up having.
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>>23126954
1. You may not injure Max or her allies or, through inaction, allow Max or her allies to come to harm.


2. You must obey the orders given by Max and her allies, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.

3. You must protect your own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws.

Seems legit.
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Priorities for dad
1. Never lies to us or deceives us in any way (NOTE: Extend to Liz, Lin, and Mom? Either way it opens up options for betrayal)
2. Teaches us everything he knows, and gives us all the info he can
3. Can only fuck those we okay, and for a time and under the circumstances we okay
3.1 This stipulation ends if we die, unless our father is responsible for our death either directly or indirectly, through action or inaction. (don't wanna fuck him over for however long he lives if we go kaput, but don't wanna give him incentive to off us)
4. Powers the tower and protects it against any who seek us harm or any sort of disadvantage (NOTE: add friends an family? either way is troublesome)

Finally, how far do we take these? Even unto his death, or some definition of reasonable effort?
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>>23126954

1. Dimitry may not injure Max and friends or, through inaction, allow Max and friends to come to harm. This includes sexual action without express permission regardless of actual lethality.

2. Dimitry must obey the orders given to it by Max, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.

3. Dimitry must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws.
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>>23126988
Did you even READ I-Robot? That shit ain't perfect.
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We shouldn't Fuck him over. Make it at least partially beneficial for him. Ask him what he wants out of the oath and take it into consideration.
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>>23126941
He words
>"You'd recover. Eventually."
Everybody gets better, no harm done, right?
He's pent up and desperate, we need to make sure he can't find a loophole in that part. Once he's sated himself somehow OTHER then raping us, then we don't need to worry about exact words so much. But for this part, it's essential.
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>>23126941
"harm" is subjective, as it does not describe conditions or durations.
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>>23127002
No no no no, Lin betrays us and we can't order him to assist us in killing her? Bad idea.
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>>23127030
If she betrays us, she is no longer our friend.
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>>23126988
>>23127002
In this case, considering we're binding a thinking being and only the three of us get the keys, we can switch the order of laws one and two. That way we still gain full benefit from giving orders and cut off the possibility of a zeroth law issue cropping up.
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>>23127030
just throw in that we have an higher priority than our allies
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>>23126988
>>23127002
I think the second and third law are not appropriate.
We don't really want to order him around, and this guy does not need to be told to protect himself.
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Alright, how about this.

1. You must obey the orders given by Max and her allies, with those of Max given total presidence over others.

2. You may not injure Max or her allies or, through inaction, allow Max or her allies to come to harm, except where this does not conflict with the first Law.

3. You must protect your own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws.
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>>23127002
4. Dimitry will provide false information to Max and friends.

>>23127030
Just add a clause that friends are a fluid designation determined by Max. A person's designation as friend can be ended by Max's order ,provided that said order is given free of compulsion, magical or otherwise.

>>23127080
He said himself that he may be crazier than he knows. This prevents suicide.
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>>23127080
We might want to toss in a clause about not being able to trap/restrain us or our friends either. Otherwise, he might stick us in the brig for our own protection to keep us from participating in the school.
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>>23127097
Amend #2 to include "Injury here considered to include unappreciated sexual advances of any kind" and we're good, I think.
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Father's Oath
-shall not harm me our mine. (including allies, friends and family)
-shall aid me in my endeavors
-shall not work against me
-shall tell the truth to me and my closest allies in all things
-shall teach me all he can that Im willing to learn
-Shall make all reasonable efforts to attend my birthdays and give me age appropriate presents.

Max's Oath
-I will free him from his prison
-I will not kill him for anything he has done prior to the signing of his oath that I am currently aware of.
-This oath shall lapse in 7 (or 8, whenever we would have graduated assuming we make it that far) years
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>>23127135
Swearing to free him is redundant, swearing not to kill him is unnecessary, and as I understand these oaths cannot lapse.
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GUYS. GUYS!

I have a much easier way to do this that avoids and legal loop holes with poor wording.

Oath. One thing.

Dad swears to answer one question honestly and completely.

Max swears to let him out of the cage by the end of the day.

Question: What is your true name?
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>>23127174
... You're a sneaky fucker.
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>>23127174
That... Huh. No, but... Huh.

I'm willing to try that.
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>>23127174
>answers "I don't know'
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>>23127211
>>23127212

See. No fuss. No muss.

100% secure binding with no cost to us.
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>>23127174
Not this alone. We don't know how true names work in this setting. His could change somehow and we would lose control.
Also >>23127226
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>>23127174
Ok. Cool.
But if he turns on us he could still fuck us up before we give him the command to stop.
Better to make him swear never to harm us and follow our orders.
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>>23127226
Ok, that might actually be a problem.

Just what are we going by when we say "True Name"? Is it their birth name, or some kind of "name reflecting your soul" deal?
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>>23127246
That's what the "end of the day" bit is for: we don't let him out at all until we've had time to do the full binding.
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>>23127228
>make something up as answer
100% secure my ass
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>>23127249
The latter. It never changes, can be used to compel spiritual beings, and is a potent focus for conjuration effects when it comes to summoning and binding. Knowing his true name could allow you to summon and bind him extremely effectively, and giving him a command that used it would be extremely hard - but possible - to resist.
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1. Dimitry may not injure Max and friends or, through inaction, allow Max and friends to come to harm. This includes sexual action without express permission regardless of actual lethality.

2. Dimitry must obey the orders given to it by Max, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.

3. Dimitry must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws.

4. Dimitry will not provide false information to Max and friends. He will not withhold from Max any information which is pertinent to a line of questioning.

5. Friends of Max is a designation chosen by Max herself. Dimitry has no say over who is or is not of this designation. Max can remove a person's designation as a friend, but any form of coercion will invalidate the removal of friend status.

>>23127174
If we end up going with this make Max swear not to reveal it to someone else so the name can't get taken in a mindjacking.
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>>23127276
>Dad swears to answer one question honestly and completely.
>honestly
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>>23127242
>>23127246

Let's just look in the book. It's a book full of information about ways of binding spiritual beings.

If knowing his true name grants as much control as was implied in the last thread then it should work fine.
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>>23127283
>but possible - to resist.
So it's actually a step down in terms of control compared to the blood oath, then.

Alright, I say we drop the true name idea and get back to working on the three-laws ripoff.
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>>23127283
>The latter. It never changes, can be used to compel spiritual beings, and is a potent focus for conjuration effects when it comes to summoning and binding. Knowing his true name could allow you to summon and bind him extremely effectively, and giving him a command that used it would be extremely hard - but possible - to resist.

Sweet. So add in a few safeguard conditions and we're good to go.

Oath: You will swear to never physically, mentally or sexually attack myself Liz or Lin.
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>>23127295
this looks fairly complete, just add a bit about aiding max with her endeavors and teaching her what he knows as we're golden
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>>23127375
This oath makes him follow
orders, all we have to do is ask him to teach us. Don't need to add pointless lines
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>>23126997
Dimitry
-Must not harm or restrain us, or the individuals we choose, except if we're under mind control from another individual, or by inaction, allow us to be harmed or restrained in a manner he knows to be immediate and significant for us, unless we give him a specific order to the contrary.
>this last part is shaky; we want to be able to take risks, but also to be protected against unexpected and expected threats... maybe we shouldn't ask for protection and just bet on the fact that he cares for us, with only the possibility of losing his help if he doesn't
-Must not knowingly lie to us, or tho the individuals we choose, or allow us to misunderstand him on matters he knows to be important to us
-Must teach us what he knows, within a time period he knows to be suitable for us, if we request information on a given subject
-Must not have sexual relationships with the individuals we choose


Let's not force him to power the tower, if it is our father then he's a nice person and I don't wish to see him in this situation.
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>>23127295
Include something about restraining people, or he could bind Max in the dungeons and feed her every day to keep her 'safe' from the school.
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What's in it for him? It shouldn't be a one sided thing.
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>>23127405
The "pointless lines" make sure he doesn't go all Vietnam flashbacks and rape us.

We'd still have to do them anyway with the true name, but it's actually less binding than the blood oath according to femCOCK

>>23127417
Getting out of the fucking jailcell?
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>>23127416
He has to follow our orders, so we would just tell him to stop tying us up or whathaveyou
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>>23127321
>Alright, I say we drop the true name idea and get back to working on the three-laws ripoff.

No, get the true name AND the Asimov blood oath.

The blood oath is 100% but specific and based on the wording.

The true name is more like 95% but is non-specific and covers all orders, commands or conditions.
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>>23127299
>one question
>he gets to choose the question
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>>23127433
He could take our speaking away easy. 5th circle mage and all that.
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>>23127295
This should work fine, if he has to follow our orders we can make up new rules on the fly if we really need them.
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>>23127433
Not if the protection from harm is prioritized higher than the orders. And if it's not prioritized higher than the orders, that means that he could kill/rape us if a loophole in one of our orders allowed it.
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>>23127428
Way to not endear resentment at a later date.
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>>23127410
this sounds good
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>>23127458
Yes, because making him swear to do shit he'd never do anyway will cause resentment. If he gets mad over these oaths then it's just proof that we needed to impose them on him.
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>>23127417
He gets out of this cell.
The point of this oath is to protect us, nothing more.
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>>23127448
>>23127453
What can possibly be added then? That he never take away our voice? The oath already has, never hurt max, specifically mentioned in it.
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>>23127489
if he gets mad, just tell him to fuck off, the world is big and he can get a life again
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>>23127503
Just include that he can't restrain us against our will.
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>>23127489
See this snapple
>>23127518
After that it should be pretty airtight!
Good call on the no restraint.
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>>23127504
>>23127489
Guys, guys, stop.

On Max's end, all we need to swear is to keep his survival a secret from others and to consider his advice. The latter especially should win us a bit of trust and won't limit us in the slightest.
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>>23127135
Presents!
Should we get all the presents he missed while locked away, as well?
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>>23127489
Considering he told us to do so because he's not sure if he's broken, taking safeguards against him being broken is exactly what he's hoping for.
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>>23127458
Hell, he's the one who tells us not to trust us so repeatedly.
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>>23127538
Technically we really don't have to make any oath at all, he is forced to agree to it to get out, but it's not like we have to swear to help him or anything. We can as a nicety, but it isn't strictly necessary.
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LOOK THESE OVER

Dimitry's Oaths:

1. Dimitry may not injure Max and friends or, through inaction, allow Max and friends to come to harm. This includes sexual action without express permission, regardless of actual lethality.

2. Dimitry must obey the orders given to it by Max, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.

3. Dimitry must protect his own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws.

4. Dimitry will not provide false information to Max and friends. He will not withhold from Max any information which is pertinent to a line of questioning or Max's growth in areas of her interest.

5. Friends of Max is a designation chosen by Max herself. Dimitry has no say over who is or is not of this designation. Max can remove a person's designation as a friend, but any form of coercion will invalidate the removal of friend status.

6. Dimitry will reveal his True Name to Max. He will make no efforts to resist commands given under it assuming Max has not been compelled by outside forces to give said commands. Dimitry will make no effort to impede Max from giving a command.
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>>23127538
Not a bad idea.
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>>23127564
Sounds good, any objections anyone?
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>>23127564
Include a clause against restraint.

Max's oaths should be about never giving out Dimitry's true name and releasing Dimitry from his imprisonment.
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>>23127563
Depends on whether you want him aiding us willingly or grudgingly.
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>>23127581
>Dimitry will make no effort to impede Max from giving a command.

It's under number 6.
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>>23127593
Yea well, we can force him to obey us and never harm us as a precaution, and then as long as we don't abuse that oath still have him willingly help us.
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>>23127564
I'm still not sure the True Name bit is a good idea. If he were comfortable with sharing it he would have just gone right to that.
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>>23127603
Replied to the wrong person >_>

Meant to reply to >>23127588
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>>23127603
But it's trumped by the first rule. He could lock her away "for her own safety" the way one would a child.
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>>23127622
I know, I find it hard not to reply to me too.
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Current wording enslaves him, I for one would be pissed off by it.
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>>23127564
It's funny that you started off
>SNAP NECKS
but are now one of the most competent posters in this quest
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>>23127621
>>23127564
This. I mean, we can always order him to tell his true name later
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>>23127623
Then put 6 in the number 1 slot and bump everything else so it takes precedence.
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>>23127564
the inaction bit of law 1 allows him to take initiative and such initiative would be of a higher priority than our own orders, do we want to risk that?
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>>23127623
>>23127564
This. Obeying our orders is the paramount issue. We don't need to worry much about him being ordered to harm us because only three people have the ability to do so. The original laws, after all, were designed such that EVERYBODY got to give orders.
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>>23127637
Only in the sense that he has to follow our orders, we don't actually have to order him around, and we can tell him that the oath is just a precaution. Because it is
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>>23127651
Then our commands would trump our survival and safety. Just include a clause against restraint.
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>>23127637
If he doesn't want to help, we can order him to go and never came back. He already did it once
bitching powers activate
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>>23127659

What if someone mindcontrols us, and makes us order him to kill us? Game over
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Okay, it's been an hour. Do you have a set of rules that you've agreed upon?
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>>23127564
Add somthing in there about how if he belives it will violate rule 1 he has to tell us why, and we can override him anyway. We might also want to add in an option allowing us to void the the deal eventually. The bond might be permanent, but if we have a clause saying that "Max can with his full of his own free will without any form of coercion void the previous clauses of the deal if he does so in writing three times, each 30 days after from the previous +- 1 hour."
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>>23127675


Dimitry's Oaths:

1. Dimitry may not injure Max and friends or, through inaction, allow Max and friends to come to harm. This includes both restraint and sexual action without express permission, regardless of actual lethality.

2. Dimitry must obey the orders given to it by Max, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.

3. Dimitry must protect his own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws.

4. Dimitry will not provide false information to Max and friends. He will not withhold from Max any information which is pertinent to a line of questioning or Max's growth in areas of her interest.

5. Friends of Max is a designation chosen by Max herself. Dimitry has no say over who is or is not of this designation. Max can remove a person's designation as a friend, but any form of coercion will invalidate the removal of friend status.

6. Dimitry will reveal his True Name to Max. He will make no efforts to resist commands given under it assuming Max has not been compelled by outside forces to give said commands. Dimitry will make no effort to impede Max from giving a command.

>>23127696
Read 6 again. Mind control automatically invalidates any command.
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>>23127696
In that case we're already fucked; they could just order us to stop breathing and skip the middle man.
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>>23127410
-Must not harm or restrain us, or the individuals we designate to him for this purpose, except if we're under mind control from another individual, or by inaction, allow us to be harmed or restrained in a manner he knows to be immediate, unwanted, and significant for us, unless we give him a specific order to the contrary.
-Must not knowingly lie to us, or tho the individuals we designate to him for this purpose, or allow us to misunderstand him on matters he knows to be important to us
-Must teach us what he knows, within a time period he knows to be suitable for us, if we request information or education on a given subject
-Must reveal his True Name (or true name ?) to us
-Must not reveal information regarding our activities in Scholomance, or those of the individuals we designate to him for this purpose
-Must not have sexual relationships with the individuals we designate to him for this purpose
-Must strive to follow the original intent of this oath as he knows it, as long as it doesn't conflict with its wording

>>23127564
I'd rather be able to use different lists of "friends" for different ends.
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>>23127564
this sounds good. As far as what max swears... we basically release him from his cell.
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>>23127722
Perfect.

>>23127705
See:
>>23127722
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>>23127722
Except that he can't tell necissarily if we're mind controlled. Best to just leave the resistance clause out entirely and let him use his judgement.
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>>23127735
We still need Max's oaths.

I feel that:

1. Max will free Dimitry from his cell.

2. Max will not reveal Dimitry's True Name.
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>>23127722
>2. Dimitry must obey the orders given to it by Max
I don't like this part... it's our father...
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>>23127742
He doesn't need to; the oath's actual enforcement spells would presumably be able to perceive that one side is compromised and take that into consideration.
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inb4 we fail Mind rolls and fuckup oath reciting
or fail Soul rolls and he finds some loop hole
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>>23127755
Additionally, for goodwill:

3: Max will shield Dimitry from discovery by his enemies.

4: Max will give Dimitry's advice due consideration.
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I still think we should include a clause allowing us to release the deal.
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>>23127755
2 is good. 1 is unecessary, we know we'll do that, and we'll prove it to him soon enough.
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>>23127722
This seems to be the most competent and together list we have so far.
Enslaving our father may not be the friendliest, but he's been locked away for 15 years, and so it's really for the best.
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>>23127764
My feelings. This will destroy any chance of a relationship with him.
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>>23127564
In clause 5, change "removal" to "alteration". If he goes and forces us to identify someone as a friend, that means we can't order Dimitry to attack them.

Clause 6 has no business being there. All you're asking for is trouble with that clause. Especially since it includes a conditional based on a purely subjective state of interpretation (see "assuming"; he could "assume" that Liz is influencing Max's orders because Liz is our Number-One girl)

In fact, for each clause, we need to iron out those issues.

Clause 1: change "injure" to "harm". Add "of the recipient" onto "permission". Remove the whole bit about "lethality" at the end. If we get him to swear only to fuck under express permission of recipient of said act, then there's no need for such a clause.

Clause 2: Remove "the" and "to it" from the first part, for clarity purposes. Add "to Dimitry" after "Max", for clarity.

Clause 3: You're good.

Clause 4: No need for "...or Max's growth...". That whole part of the sentence can be cut out, and it can end on "line of questioning". Add a clause that "Dimitry must provide truthful information to Max and friends in such cases where omission or reservation of such information will infringe upon other clauses."
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>>23127764
>>23127806
He may be our father, but only in blood. We need to treat this like we had just summoned some random incubus.
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>>23127705
apparently not...
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>>23127823
After all, HE'S the one telling us to be paranoid. If anything he'd see it as a sign that we're getting the right mindset.
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>>23127810
/tg/; Contrac/tg/uys
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I suppose I can wait a few more minutes for you guys to finish hammering out the details.
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>>23127823
Except in addition to being an incubus, he was also a student here. What do we actually know about incubi in this universe?
I get the impression people are making assumptions without verifying them based on incubi from other settings.

How do we know they act the same? We don't.
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>>23127722

>>23127755
This is fine with me, you've got a more airtight solution than anyone else.
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/tg/ certainly is good at writing out demonic contracts.

This is exactly what my pastor warned me about!
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>>23127690
Heh. We need to do something like tihs.
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>>23127849
Thanks.
Just be glad you're not asking us to make wishes, we'd be here for a week.
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>>23127823
Not really. If he's really our father, he's been honest with us. Restricting him from harming us is enough.
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>>23127810
Everything this guy said.
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>>23127795
>>23127755
>>23127722
Sounds good to me.
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>>23127875
Oh, believe me, I know. Making contracts with a devil is one thing; making a wish with a djinn is something else entirely.
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>>23127875
And we'd have a single run-on sentence that takes an hour to say.
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>>23127906
Then we'd find out that all wishes require proper grammar, and we'd be up the creek.
And it turns out the djinn was a bro anyway, but got offended by our lack of trust and decided to fuck us over in direct response to our trying to avoid being fucked over.
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>>23127898
If you ever pull a wish on us, I elect that we give the wish to a stupider person, preferably an enemy, and then let them destroy themselves. Use a wish as a weapon in itself. No need for the middleman.

If that's impossible, then we should outright refuse the wish. Upon refusing the wish, make sure the djinn is no longer waiting on us for a wish, and that any further wishes made by us will not be fulfilled without our express permission after the making of said wish, in form of confirmation of aforementioned wish. (because the djinn could take "making the wish" as giving express permission; djinns are assholes)
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>>23127722
>through inaction, allow Max and friends to come to harm.
No, this part is too vague. That would allow him to stop us from a doing lot of things.
That might force him to stop us from confronting ennemies.
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>>23127810
I feel that 6 needs to stay, but I modified it a bit.

Dimitry's Oaths:

1. Dimitry may not harm Max and friends or, through inaction, allow Max and friends to come to harm. This includes both restraint and sexual action without express permission from the recipient. Any form of coercion invalidates said permission.

2. Dimitry must obey the orders given by Max to Dimitry, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.

3. Dimitry must protect his own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws.

4. Dimitry will not provide false information to Max and friends. He will not withhold from Max any information which is pertinent to a line of questioning or would be beneficial to Max. Dimitry must provide truthful information to Max and friends in such cases where omission or reservation of such information will infringe upon other clauses.

5. Friends of Max is a designation chosen by Max herself. Dimitry has no say over who is or is not of this designation. Max can remove a person's designation as a friend, but any form of coercion will invalidate the alteration of friend status.

6. Dimitry will reveal his True Name to Max. He will make no efforts to resist commands given under it by Max if she has not been compelled by outside forces to give said commands. Dimitry will make no effort to impede Max from giving a command.
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>>23127964
If we're being confronted by enemies, then stopping us from confronting them also puts us at risk of being harmed. In the case of conflict, he would have no choice but to aid us in eliminating the enemy.
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>>23127964
Whereupon the hypothetical enemy would kill us, thus bringing us to hypothetical harm.
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>Dimitry may not harm Max and friends or, through inaction, allow Max and friends to come to harm
So in certain circumstances this will force him to sacrifice himself.
And what happen if he needs to harm us to save us from a situation, what then?
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>>23127981
Max's Oaths:

1. Max will free Dimitry from his cell.

2. Max will not reveal Dimitry's True Name.

3. Max will shield Dimitry from discovery by his enemies.

4. Max will give Dimitry's advice due consideration.
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>>23127981
I second these.
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>>23127981
>Dimitry may not harm Max and friends

What if someone we consider a friend will try to hurt us?
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>>23127964
Also, restraint should not be included under "harm", because it doesn't make sense. Sexual actions should be ruled separately too for the same reason.

>>23127729
Dimitry
-Must not harm or restrain Max, or the individuals Max designates to him for this purpose, except if we're under mind control from another individual, or by inaction, allow us to be harmed or restrained in a manner he knows to be immediate, unwanted, and significant for us, unless we give him a specific order to the contrary.

-Must not knowingly lie to Max, or to the individuals Max designates to him for this purpose, or allow us to misunderstand him on matters he knows to be important to us

-Must teach Max what he knows, within a time period he knows to be suitable for Max, if Max requests information or education on a given subject

-Must reveal his True Name to Max

-Must not reveal information regarding Max's activities in Scholomance, or those of the individuals Max designates to him for this purpose

-Must not have sexual contacts with the individuals Max designates to him for this purpose

-Must strive to follow the original intent of this oath as he knows it, as long as it doesn't conflict with its wording
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>>23127981
amendment to number 6:
Dimitry will reveal his True Name to Max. He will make no efforts to resist commands given under it by Max if she has not been MAGICALLY compelled by outside forces to give said commands. Dimitry will make no effort to impede Max from giving a command.

>could still be construed in a way that could make it seem Liz is "compelling" us to tell him to do something.
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>>23128039
>4. Max will give Dimitry's advice due consideration.
Define "Due consideration"
This is meaningless as it is unquantifiable.
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>>23128039
3 is a slight problem, because that means if anyone who is Dimitry's enemy discovers him, it invalidates the entire contract, whether or not it's our fault.
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I think we're good with these
>>23128039
>>23127981
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>>23127990
>he would have no choice but to aid us in eliminating the enemy.
No, he would be forced to go ahead and try to eliinate the threat by himself.
This is too unwieldy.
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>>23128062
It just means we'll think it over, however briefly.
Ultimately it doesn't require us to do anything at all save listen sometimes, which we would probably do anyway.
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Haven't had enough time to keep up with this quest live. But I remember the Scholomance setting when it was being created on /tg/. Glad to see something came of it.

Didn't expect it to take this form however...

It sounds like you guys aren't going for spacial shenanigans but a hypercube sanctum would be really neat.
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>>23128063
Then change it to

3. Max will make efforts within her power to prevent Dimitry from being discovered by his enemies.
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>>23128063
>>23128039
Point. Add "to the best of his ability" to the end.
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>>23128094
Agreed.

And the current wording is far too inflexible to situations where both action and inaction will result in him breaching the contract.

>>23128104
So given that it doesn't actually mean anything, why include it?
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>>23128056
>>23127981
Restraint should not be included under "harm", because they're different things. Sexual actions should be ruled separately too for the same reason.

Quoted the wrong post.
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>>23127981
>>23128039
After long and careful deliberation with Liz and Lin - longer than you really intended to go - you come up with a series of terms for both Max and Dimitry to swear to. You head down into the basement with a knife from the armory, then hand Dimitry a piece of paper with the various terms on it. He reads it long and carefully, then nods.

"I'm ready to swear the oath whenever you are. I see you have a knife. When you're ready, cut yourself, then hand it to me to do the same, and we'll begin."

What do you do?
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Just tell him to gtfo and not return here after he gives us true name of some lesser demon.
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>>23128128
Oh god is it too late to change Max's #3 to

3. Max will make efforts within her power to prevent Dimitry from being discovered by his enemies.
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>>23128128
Are the girls with us?
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>>23128035
>So in certain circumstances this will force him to sacrifice himself.
Third clause prevents that.
>And what happen if he needs to harm us to save us from a situation, what then?
I forgot how this was handled in Asimov's novels. Dammit. I think it relates to the zeroth law.

>>23128108
Then mistakes that result in his revealing will invalidate the contract. By definition, a mistake is something that goes against our benefit, but was within our power to prevent. Seriously, just throw that whole clause out. He's not going to barge into the school and reveal himself on a whimsy, and I'm sure he's more interested in staying unnoticed all by himself. No need to put ourselves in danger of invalidating the contract over something that has no need for stipulation.
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>>23128128
Go put on a helmet and chainmail before we give him the knife.
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>>23128123
>So given that it doesn't actually mean anything, why include it?
As a show of good will and get him to trust us a bit more.
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>>23128168
Nah, he's outnumbered and weak. No real need.
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>>23128163
>Third clause prevents that.
No, it has lower priority.
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>>23128128
perform the fucking ritual
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>>23128188
He might know how to throw a knife, and be irrational/cruel.
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>>23128128
Cut ourself, follow the blood ritual for this.

Can we change #3 to be a bit less harsh, if he gets discovered we've invalidated the contract, it ought to have "within the limits of our abilities without putting ourself in undue risk" somewhere in there.
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>>23128128
This contract is not as smart as /tg/ seems to think it is. By being too rigid it can't account for situations where Dimitry is stuck in a catch 22.

It can also force him to sacrifice himself.

>>23128163
>Third clause prevents that.
And if the only way to prevent harm to us is to sacrifice himself? Law 1 overrules law 3.
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>Not including "Max has to provide Dimitri with means to survive for the durations of oath."

/tg/ I'm dissapoint
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>>23127981
>2. Dimitry must obey the orders given by Max to Dimitry
We'll have to watch our language around him...
I really don't like this part.
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>>23128128
Perform the ritual as planned. If you were planning on immediately screwing us so badly that the quest was going to end over a tiny semantic error, there's no point in further deliberation.
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>>23128237
That's a given, and it precludes him providing for himself later on.
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>>23128237
If we don't do that we'll lose him so we're going to do that anyway. This means that we can not be compelled to do so at awkward times.
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>>23128243
Mhm
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>5. Friends of Max is a designation chosen by Max herself. Dimitry has no say over who is or is not of this designation. Max can remove a person's designation as a friend, but any form of coercion will invalidate the alteration of friend status.

This does not contain the clause in which it is overruled by law 1.
If we are incapacitated and a "friend" turns traitor, Dimitry cannont do anything as clause 1 does not specify who is more important, max or friends.

You NEED a law 0, something to the effect of; in any situation where you must choose a beneficial outcome for max or a friend, always choose max.
Poorly written but you get the idea.
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>>23128243
He may screw us significantly but not quest-endingly over a tiny semantic error.
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can we insert an addendum where we can decide nobody is any longer affected by the oath anymore?
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>>23128243
Yeah, I think we're about good.
Plus he's probably already writing the next bit, so it's pointless to discuss more.
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>>23128163
The zeroth law is the good of humanity above the good of an individual human or something like that.
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>>23128271
All we have to do is order him to put us first, and he'll be bound to it anyway.
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>>23128294
Not in Scholomance!
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>>23128281
That is precluded in clause 2. If we declare "All parties involved in the formation of this blood pact are no longer required to adhere to its stipulations", then the blood pact is nullified.
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>>23128303
Law 1 overrules law 2.
We gave an order to put us first, but he is in a situation where he must harm a designated friend to save us, law 1 comes into effect when he tries to restrain/harm "friend".
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>>23128312
No, obviously it would be stupid to make dad swear that one.
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>>23128336
Say that said person is no longer designated as a friend. That's the one thing we have over the original three laws. We get to choose who is and isn't under the clause of protection, at will. There was a planet in Asimov's novels that worked like this. Only those designated as citizens of the planet were considered applicant to the laws of robotics.
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>>23128336
Actually, at no point did we add it to the oaths that any have presidence over the others based on their order. That's been assumed from the original laws, which worked that way because they were a nested IF structure.
As it is now, the order doesn't matter.
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Is there a way to amend the oath later ?

I'm pretty sure we'll need it with this formulation and if OP decides our protagonists need a new porblem to pop up at one point.
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>>23128375
>2. Dimitry must obey the orders given by Max to Dimitry, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
>except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
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>>23128373
And if we are incapacitated?

>>23128375
Actually, the one FemCock is linking to does have precedence clauses.

And say we add a clause where we take precedence, how about we end up in a situation where one of our designated friends could be seriously hurt/killed, we want Dimitry to save them, however if we were in any sort of danger, then law 1 would prevent this.
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>>23128415
Ah. My mistake, some wordings omitted that part and I got them confused.
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Why femcock. Why did you have to introduce a contract.
THIS WILL NEVER END. WE COULD HAVE JUST BEEN BROS WITH OUR DAD.
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>>23128449
I know fellow anon, I know....
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>>23128449
>implying our dad won't steal all our harem
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>>23128449
Because our Dad is a 5th Circle Incubus who got locked up for 15 years, he might not be stable or in his right mind, because his desires might outweigh familial love, because he explicitly said we shouldn't trust him and it'd be setting a bad precedent to trust him right off the bad.

We'll treat him like a bro, but we have the contract in place just in case.
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>>23128469
>fetish quest
>implying he won't join the harem
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>>23128469
>he doesn't share his harem with his dad
Look at this guy.
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>>23128469
We'll share, because we're a good daughter. What kind of child would we be if we let Dad go without a proper allotment of blowjobs.
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>>23128412
>Is there a way to amend the oath later ?
Can we add a clause for it ?

"This oath can be amended or Dimitry and Max freed from its terms by repeating the ritual under a common, uncoerced agreement"
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You make a small cut on the back of your forearm - you're not stupid enough to try to cut something that will flex constantly and is sensitive, like your palm. Then you hand the knife to your father and he does the same. You do the ritual, setting the knife to spin on its point between the two of you, then both recite your oaths. As you finish the knife clatters to the floor. You expected to feel something, but there's nothing - no sudden tension, no feeling in your gut - you feel normal.

"Samyaza," your father whispers to you. It's his true name, you realize. You didn't even notice that you had already opened the door and were working on his chains. "Be careful with that name. Are those two girls upstairs to be considered your friends? Do you have anyone else to be considered your friend? Please tell me now, because I am... empty. I need a girl, and anyone not protected is fair game."

What do you do?
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>>23128531
Please no
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>>23128562
Oaths can be amended by swearing a new oath whose terms specifically state that they 'override' a previous oath's terms.
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>>23128565
"They are both to be considered to be my friends"
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>>23128565
Yes, they are, and that's all for the moment.

Also, could you tell us exactly what wording you chose to go with?
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>>23128565
Ask him if he truly needs ONLY a girl, because there's this guy we know named Pierre who would just LOVE to sample some demon dick.
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>>23128565
Yes, they are my friends.

Can you take care of your needs on your own, without being revealed to potential ennemies ?
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>>23128565
"Those two are friends. Anyone else is a go. You can try to convince Lin, the asian one, if you want. She /might/ do something."
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>>23128565
Just the two upstairs, anyone else is fair game for now, though warn him not to let his desperation make him careless, if dextra domini caught on to an incubus skulking around, it would be bad.
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>>23128592
The wording I linked in this post:
>>23128128
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>>23128565
"Both of them are. You are not to leave the tower. Don't worry, you'll get at the very least a handjob if not a blowjob."
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>>23128565
Ask Dad to show us his cock. We need to compare sizes and know if Liz tightness is in any danger.
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>>23128571
No, no, no, goofball. Not like that. He'll join as our sidekick male friend. He's not gonna fuck us, or vice versa, that's not what that meant. It means that he's going to bring his own bitches to the harem, and we'll cultivate our tastes in the finest women, together.
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>>23128597
Stop that already. We don't need to start drawing attention to our demon blood by raping a prospective demon hunter.
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>>23128565
How much power would he need to port to mom for some passionate make up "discussion"?
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I need to step out for about an hour. I'll be reading any new posts on my phone.
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>>23128565
Lotus dude who's name I forget.

Also, avoid harming the lotus if possible, its the group I am probably going to join.
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>>23128597
Wait, ask him if it needs to be a natural girl. I'm sure we can magic Pierre into a girl.
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>>23128612
Neither of them have expressed any desire to get him off, so let's not do that.

Not saying he can't have a go at them later once we've verified that they're up for it.
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>>23128597

IF not, ask if there's a way to turn Pierre into a girl.

Surely there must.
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>>23128612
>You are not to leave the tower
Why. Let's find some clothes for this poor guy and send him out there to find some tail
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>>23128602
Lol. Might. Yeah, she MIGHT screw a desperate old man she doesn't know who hasn't 'eaten' in 15 years.
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>>23128642
Nah, let's not include him just yet. He's a potential ally, not really a friend.
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I'm going with either >>23128634 or >>23128643
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>>23128565
"Yes, the two girls upstairs, Elizabeth and Lin, are my friends. They're off-limits. And likewise with you, do try and be careful. No need to risk anyone but myself and my two friends knowing that you even exist."
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>>23128659
Glad to know that you consider him "Fair game"
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>>23128597
I for one don't want pierre to be harmed just yet. I have known kids who were criminally dumb and idealist and then got better when confronted with reality.
I think he might come to understand that demons aren't so bad.

>>23128565
Can you avoid draining someone to death ? I must say I feel a bit squeamish about unprovoked murder for now.
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>>23128624
Ok, I'm fine with this
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>>23128635
You sadistic, man. Have fun watching us bitch at eachother for the next hour.
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>>23128612
That's a little too restrictive. Both of them are our friends. If (keep word, if) either of them are not willing, then he is to stay off the school grounds and out of range of any security the school has while hunting. Well, he should at least try. We're not going to order him like a maggot at boot camp, but at least throw in something like "Please, dad, keep yourself away from the school grounds and out of their sight, if you can manage it".
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>>23128686
He said before that Incubi don't fuck people to death, only Succubi do.
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>>23128719
Did he say that before or after he learned we're his child ?
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>>23128650
I really, really, really, do not want a 5th Circle Incubus wandering around the halls with a mindless need for sex, it'll cause commotion. Once he's stated and back to something resembling being sated and in control of himself and his desires we can let him go loose, but not until then.

>>23128646
If they won't, and we can probably convince them to, we can do it.

>>23128707
We'll give him permission to go out later, for now he stays in house.
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>>23128686
He already told us his rapes aren't lethal, people just can't walk straight and lose their memory for some time, which eventually recovers.
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>still no-one suggests a little bit of incest.
My fetish will go unfulfilled, it seems.
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>>23128707
This tower is in the school grounds. The school grounds are fucking massive.
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>>23128686
But wouldn't it be very nice to have a mindbroken fuck-slave? Especially one that used to be an male enemy.
(That is my fetish)
Captcha; Necessary endsnl
Yes captcha, it is necessary.
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>>23128758
I'm perfectly fine with incest, with us sucking his cock. I'm fine with L&L doing it as well. What I'm not fine with is us saying "Well, have fun wandering the magic school looking for some firstie to fuck! WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?!"
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>>23128758
I'm with you on that, but sadly we seem outnumbered in the sexy incest department.
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>>23128758
I suggested it back 2 or 3 threads ago (starting to lose track) but it got shot down fast as fuck.
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>>23128742
I don't want to push Lin to give him any kind of sex.
Let's make sure that he's (not) in control of himself before choosing one of our girls to do the job.
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>>23128758
I'd like to avoid incests that involve more than one dick, honestly
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>>23128741
After.

>"Max..." he says, contemplatively.
>"Maximilian. I was raised male until I was 13. We didn't have any idea I was a female. Didn't really know how incubi worked."
>"I'm sorry," he says. He seems earnest.
>"What do you actually need to get power back?"
>"Sexual contact with a woman," he says. "Even a heated kiss is... better than nothing. I can't drain souls - I'm not a succubus. Incubi leave their mates alive and able to care for the child. No irreparable damage."
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>>23128758
Regardless of our dad being alive, and his reasons for going missing for so long, and everything meta about us and our fetishes, we have to remember Max is still, at the least, unfoundedly resentful of her dad. If she were to go and sit on her dad's dick right now and pump away like Sakura at an all-you-can-fuck Shirou buffet, it would be a horrendous break of character. That's not to say it won't ever happen.
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>>23128774
Let's at least wait until we've clashed with him at least once, otherwise people are going to wonder what made us go after the fanatic, and their minds are going to leap to demonhood.
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>>23128758
>>23128759
>>23128758
>>23128777
I'm with these guys, he's a sex demon, we're half sex demon, not like either will be squeamish about it.

Suck that dick, Max!

Should probably make sure Liz and Lin aren't going to walk in on us first though.
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>>23128809
>cross thread post

This is what happens when I have to enter post numbers manually.

Fucking dodgy 4chan x why don't you work right recently.
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>>23128797
Which still leaves the option of grudging angry handjobs. Which are awesome.

>>23128809
One of these things just doesn't belong here~
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>>23128803
I really. REALLY want to fight Pierre, snap his neck the take the body to our sanctum. Animate him as a zombie and maybe bone his eye sockets every once in a while for shits and giggles.
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>>23128775
>I'm perfectly fine with incest, with us sucking his cock. I'm fine with L&L doing it as well.
I'm not. Incest with our father is the opposite of a fetish for me, and I'm possessive of the girls. At least regarding him.
He hasn't even showered in 15 years, man.
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>>23128834
>grudging angry incestuous handjobs
YES, YES!
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Oh FUCK. I just realized that we made a terrible mistake in our blood oath! We should have included a clause promising to tell him if we are under mental control as soon as we can do so without alerting the one controlling us, since it overrides mental programing. Hell, we should include a clause for us promising not to hurt him or those designated as friends while under magical influence.
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>>23128777
>>23128776
>>23128775
Shit, we've actually got a decent number of people who're for this.
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>>23128774
Once we make some hard, well-defined enemies, we can do this. Right now, our enemies consist of "Pierre maybe, the chick in Liz's room maybe, and everyone else on campus maybe".
Also, guys, I just realized something. Our contract stipulation to dad aren't all-or-nothing. We could keep someone as "not a friend", but order him to obey clauses X, Y, and Z for that person. If we don't trust someone, pull him to the side in private, and tell him "That person is not a friend. I don't trust him. Only clauses 2, 4, and 5 apply to them. If they turn on us, you're free to break their neck or rape them stupid."
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>>23128758
Looks like people actually support it.

On the idea of resenting the man, we're probably rational enough to understand that he wasn't intentionally absent and seems regretful.
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>not forcing subby bitch liz to give him a blowjob while you do her from behind
>not sharing an intimate reunion with our dead with some cock impalement
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>>23128853
There are a number of mistakes in our blood oath. No one seemed to care and ignored them when they were pointed out.
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>>23128858
I'm against it, but whatever.
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Im against it personally... if it was the mom on the other hand.

(gotta love double standards)
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>>23128842
I think in a Blatant Fetish Quest you have to accept that sometimes the fetishes that crop up will not be yours.

In the end it comes down to whether FemCOCK is comfortable writing it though.
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>>23128787
Then we'll do it first. But for fuck's sake, do not let him out of the tower right now. You know what happens when a 5th Circle Incubus who hasn't been fucked in 15 years goes out for a snack? Neither do I, but I'm pretty damn sure it's going to be chaotic and crazy. It'll draw way too much attention.

>>23128797
It's just a handjob/blowjob, he needs one, we can see if the other girls want to first, but it needs to be done and we've got the equipment to do it. Consider it the first step in a father/daughter reunion.

>>23128809
Liz might offer to please us at the same time, and Lin is a voyeur, why bother not letting them walk in.

>>23128836
Pierre is unimportant right now, we might kill him, but let's not make trouble for ourself right now.

>>23128842
Well, suck it up. He needs some energy, and letting him out of the tower is retarded, and it's a lot of work to kidnap a girl to bring here right now, with lots of consequences.

>>23128872
EXACTLY! While Lin watched, masturbates, and then comes in and starts licking Dad as well.
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>>23128836
And we will, later; we're certain to come in conflict with him sooner or later. But if we make a move too soon, people are going to wonder why that guy got singled out, and that's going to raise suspicions about demons being involved. Let's pick a fight with him about something unrelated first, to cover that up.
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>>23128775
I'm not okay with incest. I am okay with sending him to our mother with a box of chocolates and some flowers
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>>23128834
You know, I'd be fine with a grudging angry handjob. Seems like the best way to give him a bit of juice at the moment.
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>>23128853
I think we'll need to rewrite this oath at one point. Maybe soon.
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I'm going to have to second these desires for sexy incest.

Make Blatant Fetish Quest earn its name.
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>>23128872
Hell no. Liz is OURS.
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well, if we can fulfill his need for energy in a way that doesn't expose his existence.

I'll vote for that. maybe only a handjob until he can get a better control of his lust.

>there are just to many things that could go wrong if we let him go and hunt down a girl outside.
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I'm against any incest.
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>>23128858
I'm strongly against it.
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>>23128903
And making her do this wouldn't change anything about that.
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>>23128853
The magic acts to compel oath swearers to keep their oath. Because it's between both Max and Dimitry orders given as a result of mind control will not activate the blood oath compulsion.
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>>23128910
>>23128916
I'm strongly for it, personally.

Aside from fetishy reasons, it's also the best way to keep him safe from discovery outside while he's hungry and careless.
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>Incest fetishists
Why
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>>23128931
he's been hungry for 15 years, he can resist a fucking week at the very least
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>>23128942
This.
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>>23128828
Do you have newest version?
I had older one and couldn't quote.
I was getting
javascript:quote('23128828')
instead of
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>>23128934
>Any fetish
>Why
There is never an answer.
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>>23128942
He's been hungry and trapped for 15 years, he's finally free.

He himself said he won't be able to resist.
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I've been reading and enjoying this under the impression that makes is 100% not into guys.
If anything homosexual happens involving max, I'm out.
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>>23128895
I really am against incest in general, even for MILFs, but angry handjobs are excellent
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>>23128881
>I think in a Blatant Fetish Quest you have to accept that sometimes the fetishes that crop up will not be yours.
And you have to accept that I'm voting against it. There's a lot of fetishes that I don't have and am okay with seeing here. There's a few I am not okay with.
Fucking our father is among those.
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>>23128963
That's a shame. I'm going to be lobbying for homosex.
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>>23128951
I have 2.36.2

It lets me quote about half the time, the rest of the time it adamantly refuses and I have to enter it manually.

It also gives me an error message every time I try to post, then posts my post anyway.
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>>23128963
I don't really see where you'd get that idea from, but whatever. Leave if you like.
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>>23128982
>not using 2.38.1
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>>23128877
All of which can be fixed by asking him if he sees any loopholes in our current oath. I mostly just want to abuse magical precedence to make us virtually immune to mind control magic. We should ask him if that is possible.
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>>23128903
She's ours, but just because she's ours doesn't mean we can't make her suck someone else's cock on our orders. He's our dad, what kind of child would we be if we didn't make our submissive cockslut give him a blowjob.

>>23128893
We don't have the resources to do that, so no. Lots of other downsides as well, such as putting a sex-starved 5th Circle Incubus in the middle of a city and causing a ruckus.

>>23128910
>>23128916
Why? It's the most practical option. And there's no reason why not.

>>23128942
Maybe he could. But that's no reason not to give him a blowjob, or have L&L give him a blowjob.

Maybe we fuck Liz from behind while she sucks his cock and we high five.

He needs sex badly.

>>23128963
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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>>23128963
>homosexual
>max is genetically a girl

Too late.
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>>23128920
It might. She's submissive, not a slave, she can say she's got anough anytime.

But she's not to be loaned.
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>>23128983
Max was raised a guy and was told when he was 13 that he was actually a girl with a cock.
Where do you think I got the idea from?
He was insanely shocked by the news, stylised himself as a tomboy and was very sensitive about his new identity.
Also, he likes da pussy too much.
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>>23128920
She already feels like shit from thinking she isn't good enough for us, trying to force her on our dad would make her feel that much worse.
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>>23129001
>He needs sex badly.
He himself said that even a passionate kiss would be alright. There's always lin around
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>>23129025
>That's like, just your opinion, man.
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>>23129025
Max also likes it in the butt. Remember Paris?
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>>23129025
He also fucking loved anal and is genetically female.
There's points to be made for both sides, but in the end it comes down to how many people want one or the other.
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>>23129025
S/He seemed to enjoy taking it up the butt from Liz.
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>>23129001
I'm going to find it fucking hilarious when Liz finally snaps due to us treating her as an object and a possession.

She may be submissive, but you can only push someone so far.

Remember how well she took the suggestion to be our manager?
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>>23128958
>He himself said he won't be able to resist.
Did he ? then he lied. He is able to resist. He didn't jump on the girls before they were named as friends.

He is starved, but pretty rational.
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>>23129025

he also considered being (and has been) on the receiving end of an anal romp.
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>>23128942
He's essentially free, now, and no longer stuck in his cell. For fifteen years, he's put up with it because he couldn't do a thing about it. Now he can walk about as he pleases, barring our orders. It's like time stood still, and now it's finally moving again. It's not the same mindset.

Also, guys, seriously, we haven't even asked if there's any way to give him energy by proxy. Stop assuming you actually have to touch him. Ask things like if he can get energy from watching others, or from the fluids of others who have recently participated in an act of sexual intimacy. Hell, our dad is an incubus; it's assumed that, apart from the facial hair going wild, he's a fairly damned good-looking demon. Lin, being interested in us without making any physical commitment, might fall sway to physical attraction and volunteer. There's no point in assuming something won't work. We're both incubi, and our two girls are very, very aware of that fact. Asking them if they want to VOLUNTEER to handle the issue shouldn't be something completely out of the question or offensive. ORDERING them might be, but ASKING them to VOLUNTEER, and getting a yes or no is perfectly within bounds.
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>>23129028
This this this.
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>>23129042
Yeah? I don't see what you're getting at.
Dildo =/= Real cock
Also, Liz was the one doing it to her.
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>>23128963
I thought the same.
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>>23129053
They're upstairs. Out of sight, out of mind, to a point.
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>>23129028
What subby doesn't want to be sandwiched between at least 3 cocks?

Those 3 cocks aren't going to provide themselves.

We're already gonna fuck up her ability to be an archmagi by taking time away from her studying with dicks, let's make sure she enjoys it.
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>>23129053
He didn't jump on them because he was chained up until about 2 minutes ago.

>>23129050
So we suck his cock, that solves that problem.
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>If anything homosexual happens involving max
>Futanari
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>>23129042
Like many heterosexual men.
That doesn't mean that he's attracted to his father or men. That just means he has a prostate.
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>>23129028
agreed
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I'm against trying to make Liz or Lin do anything they don't want to do. We don't want to ruin the relationship we've built up with them.
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>>23129087
Technically, until we grow a vagina, a shemale by human standards, but yes, your point stands to some point. But really, it's down to the consensus of the group playing. If there's an overwhelming dislike for something, it more than likely won't happen.
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>>23128982
I had the same issues before updating to 2.38.3.
There was something, I think, with refreshing threads that made javascript links include ' '.
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>>23129085
>We're already gonna fuck up her ability to be an archmagi by taking time away from her studying with dicks
So she's going to end up resenting us in her moments of lucidity?

Good Plan!

It's like we really don't give a shit about anything other than our own personal gratification!
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Seriously, guys, lets just ship him off to Mom for a bit..
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>>23129112
The blood oath means we CANT make them fuck our dad. If they don't actually want to it counts as coercion and he will be physically unable to fuck them.
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>>23129087
As long as Max is fucking girls. It's hot.
Just like to add, I'm not homophobic or anything, I just really enjoy this story and I'm completely straight.
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>>23129072
That's just your assumption.

We should really ask he if can take care of his needs without making ennemies before we jump on his dick.
There's no hurry for us.
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>>23129125
As a fifth circle mage, he may just be able to do that....
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>>23129125
Who's to say she'd take him back? Who's to say he WANTS to go back just yet?
And do we really want to lose a potential resource for a few weeks now of all times?
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>>23129130
We can designate and undesignate them as friends at will.
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>>23129132
>Just like to add, I'm not homophobic or anything
I didn't think you were... until you said that
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>>23129112
So we ask, if they don't want to suck his cock we do it, problem solved. If they do want to we can join them in the cocksucking or fuck them from behind while they suck.

>>23129125
Yes, with our deep and intimate knowledge of teleportation. He doesn't have the energy to do it right now. Also I'm EXTREMELY FUCKING LEERY of letting him off school grounds in any way, shape, or form. If he's not here we can't give him any orders, he might just run free through down town L.A. or not come back for a long while.

>>23129132
Suck it up, Max might lick her father's dick for entirely practical reasons as well as hot ones.
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>>23129132
I'm not racist, buuuuuuuuuut...
That kind of kills your argument.
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>>23129120

>Blatant Fetish Quest
>futa muscle dickgirl
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>>23129069
Yes, because the a dildo up the ass has NO SIMILARITY AT ALL to a dick up the ass.
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>>23128565
Just tell him to go to town on anyone he finds that isnt the two upstairs. He isn't going to kill them, and draining ourselves to help him seems retarded.
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>>23129145
>Hey guys! Just so you know, I am no longer classifying you as friends so as to ensure that you are no longer covered by the clauses I attached to my father!
>Have fun!
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>>23129132
>If one homosexual scene happens I'm going to run away really fast and never come back instead of just skipping over it
>Not homophobic
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>>23129144
We can order him to come back through the inbound teleport circle. As for relationship issues, we have a cell phone.
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>>23129162
>So we ask, if they don't want to suck his cock we do it, problem solved.
No. I don't want to suck his dick, I don't want Lix to suck his dick either. Lin could be arranged.
If they do want to we can join them in the cocksucking
NO.
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We're autosaging.

FemCOCK you have to stop leaving us to have these arguments. We're just going round in circles, and you've been gone for, what, half an hour.
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>>23129166
No no no, this is a terrible idea. It draws attention to us and it's certainly not going to help our reputation if discovered.
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>>23129178
Speaking of the cellphone, why didn't we try to have him phonesex mom? Would that work?
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>>23129145
We can also designate non-friends as being applicable to only certain clauses. We can have our cake and eat it too, when it comes to potential traitors. They can be protected by clauses 2 and 5, or something, and then if they face-heel on us, Dad has immediate and unrestricted right to fuck them into a rape coma and drag them back to the Dungeon of Many Labias in our base, and keep them there as his personal semen dump.
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>>23129162
>Also I'm EXTREMELY FUCKING LEERY of letting him off school grounds in any way, shape, or form. If he's not here we can't give him any orders, he might just run free through down town L.A. or not come back for a long while.
If he's going to do that, he can go fuck himself. I'm against keeping a slave just because we can.
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>>23129189
Okay we need to stop this and just accept that about half the people here want incest, half don't.

Arguing about it is achieving nothing.

FemCOCK can just roll a d2 or something to see which way we go.

An incest dice if you will.
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>>23129189
>No, we shouldn't such his dick
>except if somebody else does too, then it's all good.

Pick a side and stay there, dude.
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>>23129189
The incest-fags want their fix, they will shout down all opposition.
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>>23129132
You framed that argument poorly, that said, I agree with most of what you said. Plus, it will likely cause all sorts of relationship issues for us. With Liz and Lin, and with our mother.
>>23129166
Agreed.
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>>23129192
He's gonna be gone for another half hour according to >>23128635
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>>23129224
I fail to see much shouting going on here, so much as discussion to kill time.
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>>23129224
>The non-incest-fags want their fix, they will shout down all opposition.

Do you see how pointless this is yet?
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>>23129218
He failed at green text. The bit about joining in was meant to be quoting the linked post.
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>>23129166
ARE YOU FUCKTARDED?

Seriously? Let's just let a starving 5th Circle Incubus into Scholomance! What could possibly go wrong? It won't cause any sort of ruckus, commotion, or trouble that could interfere in our life and life expectancy.

STOP BEING FUCKTARDED!

>>23129178
We only have one Key. I don't want him to be the only one with it. The inbound circle is off for now and will remain off until we make new keys for them and prevent the old keys from working.

>>23129189
Get over it, his dick needs to be sucked, we have a mouth, we should get in on the dicksucking somehow.

>>23129206
So you want us to lose a 5th Circle tutor, a power source for a bitching Sanctum, just because you have some moral sensibilities. Fuck moral sensibilities, they get you killed here.
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>>23129171
>That DM : Before you leave the common room to go to sleep, the bard comes to talk to you. He seduces you, and you have sex with him.
>Player : Okay, I'm out.
>That DM : you homophobe, why don't you just skip over it if you don't like this part of your character's story ?
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>>23129193
Its been outright pointed out that nobody gives a fuck if people vanish and die out here. There is no connection to us from him as of yet, and I feel fairly certain that whoever he grabs will be utterly incapable of reporting or complaining after the fact, he's fifth fucking circle.
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>>23129168
Doesn't say we have to tell THEM that they're no longer friends. Just tell dad in private that no matter what we say, unless we say a safephrase like "Combustible Lemons", they are not our friends, but he is to act like they are, unless they turn on us. Not exactly that, per se, but you get the idea. Absolutely nowhere in the contract does it say we can't designate non-friends as protected under only certain specified clauses. We get to put people as friends, enemies, or even mark them as "trustee" status, and effectively put them on a one-strike system where if they turn on us in any way, Dad gets free reign to rape the shit out of them.
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>>23129218
I meant to write
>If they do want to we can join them in the cocksucking
NO.
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I think the most important issue to consider here is the practical one.

Ask him if he thinks he can score some ass out in the city without attracting attention, given his current state.

If yes, let him go. If no, get sucking.

This is a matter of life or death after all.
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>>23129253
>Get over it, his dick needs to be sucked
So because you want to see your fetish fulfilled you will disregard other peoples opinion?
I'm up for putting it to a vote, though I am personally against it.
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>>23129253
He can call ahead with to our cell phone. We fix the circle, call him to teleport and then immediately break it again, if the wards were even active, which they aren't. AND NO INCEST. EVER.
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>>23129283
No, it's been stated that the TEACHERS don't give a fuck. Everyone else, meanwhile, is looking to cut back the competition. We do NOT want to make ourselves a target.
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>>23129275
Except this isn't your personal game. This is fourty other neckbeards' with fourty different fetishes.
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>>23129306
I'm pretty sure people are samefagging like fuck in this conversation ,I know I am, so a vote would be pointless.

I'd say just let FemCOCK do a d2 roll like was suggested earlier. Or just leave it up to him to decide.
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>>23128531
perhaps it was a bad idea for me to bring this up....
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>>23129306
Well considering the not-insignificant number of people who're for it, I say a vote would be a wonderful idea.
Well, except for the whole anonymity bit.
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>>23129229
Yeah... I know I did. I'm tired right now. Wishing I didn't use my tripcode in this thread...
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>>23129253
Stop being fucktarded yourself. You're just making assumptions to fit your wishes.
He might perfectly be able to do his thing while avoiding to cause any commotion. Why don't you want to at least take the time to enquire about it before sucking his dick , a solution a lot of us are really uncomfortable with ?
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>>23129292
The post about unmaking them friends was with regards to not being able to force lin and liz into fucking our dad.
We can't force them? Well lets undeclare them as friends so dad can have his way with them!
That won't lose us any allies at all!
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>>23129275
>Complaining about that guys in Blatant Fetish Quest
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>>23129253
ok
1. I agree send him on the colledge is retarded, but you sound like a 5 year old. That guy is not deciding anything by itself so calm down
2. He's not dying in the next hour because we don't suck his dick. He is fine even with a passionate kiss
3. He is our fucking dad, even after everything that happened, and you want to keep him as a slave because you are too lazy to conjure the magic equivalent to a battery pack?
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>>23129275
That's not the same thing at all. That's ridiculous railroading. If you're going to participate in a quest you have to deal with the fact that sometimes the majority decision will not be what you want.
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>>23129302
this. A THOUSAND TIMES
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Yo, slight problem. This thread is balls-deep in autosage and sup/tg/ seems to be offline.
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>>23129350
Okay, well, yeah, with regards to people we trust and actually, you know, want to keep around, yeah, of course, that's a terrible idea. I was just brainstorming onto my keyboard. With Liz and Lin, we should only be getting voluntary sexual acts from them, for dad or otherwise.
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>>23129275
Except in this case, it's the PC seducing the bard. Not the other way around.
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foolz always works
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HOW ABOUT WE GO AND READ A FUCKING BOOK IN THE FUCKING LIBRARY ABOUT INCUBI, AND GO INTO THIS WITH SOME FUCKING IDEA AS TO WHAT WILL WORK AND HOW HE WORKS.
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>>23129384
>fuck
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>>23129283
They don't care if people disappear. People will care, especially Dextra, if signs of a powerful Incubus shows up out of nowhere and leaves a trail of girls who can't walk straight.

>>23129302
DO NOT LET HIM OUT INTO THE CITY! He's been starving for 15 fucking years, self-restraint is the furthest thing in his mind. For fuck's sake, do not let him out of the tower in this state.

>>23129318
That's an awful lot of trouble, risk, and so on that we could solve by sucking his fucking cock.


FemCOCK, please ignore the suggestions that will lead to trouble.

>>23129344
He literally has said that he's empty, that he needs a girl something fierce and that he doesn't have much in the way of control.

>>23129355
A combination power source, tutor, and ally. I'm not saying we treat him like a slave, we just don't let him go or overly trust him.
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>>23129325
It doesn't change anything. I'm still attached to the character, and I identify with it up to a point. If he was a furry, or attracted to his father, or anything I'm really uncomfortable with, I wouldn't be able to continue playing like that.
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>>23129410
He's bound to tell us the truth and also is incapable of withholding relevant info.

Dad > book
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>>23129410
I absolutely agree with this. However, uh, we should find it ourselves. If the librarian is keeping notes of our checkouts, and sees "magical warding", "blood pacts", and "incubi 101" in that order, someone is going to get a hold of that transcript and use it against us.
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>>23129420
>FemCOCK, please ignore the suggestions that will lead to trouble.
Lets take no risks and play the quest with trainer wheels on!
Are you a fucking retard?
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>>23129410
Or since he's obliged to tell us the truth ask him the following "What is the easiest way for you to gain enough power to help us maintain this tower without either:
1. Haveing intercourse with ME, or the two upstairs
or
2. Causing a commotion traceable back to any of us.
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>>23129360
The problem is not really the majority decision. It's that it's a fetish I'm uncomfortable with.
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>>23129420
We just order him to be quiet. Also I believe that guy was referring to the city outside the mountain
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I've seen a distinct lack of comments about angry grudging handjobs recently.

So just throwing that out there again.

"You're really good at this, Max."

"God dad, shut up, and don't look me in the eye while I'm doing it!"
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>>23129438
Well, the book on pacts was under Liz's name, not ours. We could have Lin check out the next one.
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>>23129384
Clearly the answer is to spam all other threads into autosage oblivion, so they don't push us farther down the stack.
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>>23129457
Get him to list all methods that he can use to gain power. Sexual activity counts as one method.
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>>23129461
I don't know if that will work. I believe he needs passion, otherwise he could have supplied his own handjobs.
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>>23129459
>The problem is not really the majority decision
Yes, it is. That's how quests work; the majority select the course of action. If incest's not your thing, that's fine, but I would rather have it.
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>>23129420
>He literally has said that he's empty, that he needs a girl something fierce and that he doesn't have much in the way of control.
That's still not enough for your assumption that everything will be ruined if we don't suck his dick right now.
He's enough in control to ask us whether they're our friends. Even in his starved state, he's lucid and prudent.
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>>23129451
I should have phrased it as don't listen to the idiots who want to send our Dad to L.A. or let him loose in Scholomance when there are numerous posts against those actions detailing why they're terrible, terrible, terrible ideas.
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If incest comes down to a vote, the amount of samefagging is going to be hillarious.
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>>23129479
Exactly. Forget any actions that may cause moral dilemma. Stick to the objective and methodical, and get a list of everything we could do to get him on his feet to any degree. Voyeurism, consuming of sexual fluids, sexual intercourse, emotionally charged physical contact, whatever. After we get what can and can't work, then we decide on a course of action. Assuming that only the options apparent to us are the only ones that are valid is a brash and incredibly near-sighted approach to the issue. Talk to dad first.
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>>23129420
>That's an awful lot of trouble, risk, and so on that we could solve by sucking his fucking cock.
except for the bit pointing out that the wards don't work anyway, so we don't actually have to do any of that. And the bit pointing out the downsides of having incest. Which you ignored
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>>23129469
Your plan won't work because we would have to bump other threads over this and it would still fall faster.
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>>23129508
On both sides.
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>>23129489
He said he'd settle so he probably just needs it from someone else. Easiest thing for us to supply anyway.

He probably only needs people to be into it for the kiss since it's weak
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>>23129499
Although I'm inclined to agree that he's lucid, it could have just been the blood oath compelling him to ask.
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>>23129511
So, read a book in the library, or get him to list methods that will work.

How did it take us this long to get to that?
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>>23129459
> If you're going to participate in a quest you have to deal with the fact that sometimes the majority decision will not be what you want.
Do you just stop reading the second you see something you can make an argument with?
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>>23129511
Agreed.
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>>23129495
Actually, it's more incest with an older male that's bothering me.
And it's not just a problem of not my thing : dom/sub relations aren't my thing and I'm fine with it. Fucking our father is specifically repulsing to me.
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I'm all for letting him out into Scholomance, and just saying "Try to be discrete about it" as he's on his way out.

Oh, and let him know that L&L are on the friends list, of course
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>>23129489
>passion
>noun
>1. A powerful emotion, such as love, joy, hatred, or anger.
>2. Strong sexual desire; lust.
>3. A strong affection or enthusiasm
>4. An abandoned display of emotion, especially of anger
Anger is passion.
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>>23129536
Because a borderline fringe fetish drifted into the conversation first. People got mad, and since the questrunner isn't here, we started arguing freely, rather than in a manner conducive to reaching a course of action. Anyone who says asking dad first what can and can't work is a bad idea is honestly an idiot. At best, it gives us a simple, elegant solution that satisfies everyone, and at worst, it solves nothing and hinders nothing. Before we do anything extreme, it's both the most harmless and effective step to take first, followed by independent investigation in the library.
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>>23129562
Same.
>>23129565
Agreed. Oh, and our mother is definitely on the friend list.
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>>23129534
Then let's just order him to take all the required precautions to avoid making a commotion.
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>>23129562
Regardless of the exact reason, your opinion on the matter is of equal worth to my own and every other. If it comes down to a vote (somehow), well, that's really all that matters.
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>>23129572
You know what this means?

Dextra Domini hatesex.

Not right now obviously, having him go after one of Dextra in his current state would be dumb as fuck.

Still, something to consider for the future.
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>>23129610
He's not an imprefect, infallible being, and your orders will not alter the rules of reality. He's obviously been duped and defeated before.
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>>23129565
Hell no, do not let him loose. Him being discrete might still bring the hounds down on us, there's no real benefit to having him go out for what we can easily do in house.

Paranoia is good, Dextra is probably keeping a very sharp eye open for this sort of thing.

For the love of all that is sane, DO NOT LET HIM OUT OF THE TOWER!
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>>23129587
>>23129610
THESE.

1- get more information about his needs, and how he will sate them
2- use the oath to let him control himself
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>>23129587
Y'know, I'd just like to point out that we are supposed to be ROLEPLAYING here, and our character does have a pretty shitty mind score. Can we maybe for once not go with the well-thought out, very intellectual solution?
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>>23129599
Yeah, add mom to the friends list for sure.
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>>23129665
Actually it's just a tiny bit below normal, thanks to our studying.
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>>23129665
I would think it very, very obvious to someone standing in front of their father, who is a starved and crippled incubus, begging for sustenance, to ask exactly what will work. Just because we're not the smartest person in the world doesn't mean we have to make terrible decisions on purpose. If anything, our restrictive, and very dangerous Mind rolls will handle our dumb choices.
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>>23129665
Because the other option wil piss of either the incest-fags or the nonincest-fags.

This solution offends no one.
Preventing OOC arguments is more important at this point, given how heated it already is.
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>>23129461
I'm fine with angry grudging handjobs, or blowjobs, or asking L&L if they want to suck his cock.

I'm fine with any solution that doesn't involve our father leaving the tower. Because that is the worst idea we've had so far. Even if we tell him to control himself and be discrete a powerful Incubus fucking his way through Scholomance is going to cause waves.
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"Liz and Lin are friends," you say. "Mom too. And try not to go after anyone in the Lotus. Are you sure you should be leaving the tower in this state? Couldn't it be bad to leave a trail hinting at a powerful succubus being out and about? I don't know if we should be alerting Dextra Domini about you."

"That's... A valid point, Max," he says, frowning. He stands up straight - he's surprisingly tall. "I'm not sure what other options there are, though. Do you have enough control over your girls to send one down to me? Or are you going to kidnap some Dextra girl and let me break her?"

What's your response?

I'm going to go find a site that lets me make a survey so we can settle this incest bullshit.
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>>23129624
>He's not an imprefect, infallible being
No, but he knows how to sustain himself in scholomance without fucking things up.
>He's obviously been duped and defeated before.
There's no one to dupe him or fight him now.
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>>23129702
Get him to list all methods that he can use to gain power. Sexual activity counts as one method.
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>>23129632
But can he EASILY do it in house? He's pretty much said that whoever he feeds from is gonna be drained for a while, and we're currently about to head into the first week of classes, where everyone and their brother is gonna be trying to off us. There's a reason he wants to know if our L&L are our friends. It's because draining them would cause him to break his oath not to injure our friends.
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we are saging so you might wanna start a new thread for that.
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>>23129702
Will guys work? I want to feed him Pierre.
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>>23129717
I know, I'm checking on the archive situation right now.
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>>23129702
Sending one of the girls down is out, we'll work on them about it later, but for now it wouldn't go over well.
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>>23129728
They will not.
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>>23129702
"I can think about getting you the Dextra girl later, I want more time to prepare for that. Do not leave the tower. How much will it take out of us to suck your cock?

I'll can ask both of them, see if they're up for it, if not I can always give you a handjob."
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>>23129715
THIS!
FOR THE LOVE OF ARGUMENT PREVENTING GODS, THIS!
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>>23129740
Can we turn Pierre into a girl and THEN feed [strike]him[/strike] her to our dad?
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>>23129702
"I'll go talk to the girls, but don't be surprised if both of them say no. If they say no to sitting on you directly, is there any way you could, like, get the energy indirectly? They're not exactly shy about being intimate with me. Liz has already done the whole nine yards in front of Lin, and Lin certainly didn't try to hide her...amusement while watching."
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>>23129702
What if I ordered you to avoid being noticed ? Would that help you to leave no trace ? GHow did you deal with this before you were imprisonned ?

What exactly can sate you ? Could voyeurism suffice ?
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>>23129702

"Well... if you want to break a Dextra girl... Is it possible to change other's genders with magic? Cause there's one I know but he's a guy."
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>>23129715
This. Also don't we happen to know some lotus technique to transfer energy?
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>>23129740
Damn. Then lets ask Lin if she'll do something. Failing that it's INCESTUOUS HANDJOB TIME.
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>>23129764
I'm still pro-incest in this thread, but that option might work out for now.
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>>23129786
>Liz's roommate
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http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/N7P3K2H
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>>23129740

i could try to archive this for you, i seem to have a (pretty slow) but stable connection to sup/tg/
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>>23129795
Fuck yeah INCESTUOUS HANDJOB TIME!
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>>23129802
Was voodoo bitch.
We want Lin's roomy.
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>>23129794
That...is not a bad point.
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>>23129786
>>23129759
>>23129728
Stop talking about fucking Pierre. Going after him is far more trouble than it's worth, we don't have any way of changing gender at this juncture, stop being dumb.
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>>23129814
Give it a try, then. Use the tags the other threads have used and have the description be a non-sexual description of making a deal with a devil.
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>>23129812
Guess it's time to find out if the incestfags or the nonincestfags were samefagging more.
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>>23129702
Much as I would love to kidnap a Dextra girl and let him break her (Or Nemesis, or...), the best I think we can do is to suggest that Lin may be willing to help him out, IF he doesn't go overboard. Just a snack, Dad, not all-you-can-eat.
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>>23129823

>stop being dumb
>incestfags
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>>23129812
>http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/N7P3K2H
Not incest with our father.
With our mother, or a sister, I'm fine with it.
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>>23129824
>>23129814
I already tried a few minutes ago. Didn't work.
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>>23129759
I've mentioned this in previous threads, but trying to use Alchemy on living flesh kills it. The exception is for people with specialized training, like the Lotus, but it requires a grand master even then to affect someone else. So yes, you could turn him into a girl. A dead girl.
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>>23129846
Does Max even have a sister?

I don't remember her ever being mentioned.
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>>23129812
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>>23129845
Acting like that is a good way to turn this entire quest into a bitter bitchfest. Just let the vote decide the result, and EVERYONE SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT IT. I'm personally indifferent on a moral standpoint, and I'd get a workable boner in any case, so I voted yes, but if No wins, that is what it is, and anyone who bitches any further about it is no better than a rules-lawyering That Guy of the worst degree, and deserves to be treated as such.
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>>23129702
Ask L&L if they're up for doing it. If not incestuous handjob time, if they are, help them with sucking his dick, we want to spread the drain as many ways as possible to avoid any of us getting knocked out.
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Currently 'yes' has 55% of the vote, 'no' has 45%, and I still can't access the archives.
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>>23129872
This, I voted yes as well, but if no wins out, I'm fine with that too, the majority has spoken.
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>>23129849
Hey, maybe dad swings that way
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>>23129849

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Blatant%20Fetish%20Quest

well, someone beat me to it and its not the description you wanted but at least its up there.
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>>23129872
This. I'm against, but I can surely ignore one fucking paragraph
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I voted yes to allowing incest, but I still thing going at it with dad right now is a terrible idea.
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>>23129930
think*
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>>23129930

But thats what the vote is for
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>>23129893
Use Liz's scary witchdoctor room-mate! Kidnap her or lock Dimitry in a room with her.
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>>23129856
Who knows ? It's possible that dad did that to other women.
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>>23129939
No, the vote's for simply allowing incest isn't it?
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>>23129939
No, the survey asks if you are okay with allowing incest in the quest
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65% 'yes,' 35% 'no,' so far.
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>>23129941
Actually. This might not be a bad idea. It won't kill her, probably just weaken her for a couple of days so that somebody else would take her out.
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>>23129958
>>23129963
And what do you think femcock is going to do with this information?
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>>23129941
You're assuming that because she creeped out Liz that's she's immediately evil. She might turn out to be a good ally, if she's a freaky voodoo chick. Freaky voodoo witches aren't exactly against demons like Dextra, if assumption lends to reason. Hell, she might find two Incubi to be invaluable and fascinating. We're playing paranoid, but we're not playing dystopian, remember that.
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>>23129941
I'd rather not, not because I mind the idea, but because it's impractical at this juncture. Once we get the teleporting business taken care of and this place up and functional we can teleport her in here right onto our Dad's cock. But until then our method of getting her here would be knocking her out and carrying her body over rooftops until we get back. Lots of room for error.
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>>23129965
How long you going to keep the survey open for, FemCOCK? Only we're rapidly reaching page 10.
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>>23129930
I think and Incestuous handjob/blowjob is a great idea right now. We can check with L&L first if they want to do it.
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>>23129974
Use it to determine if people are okay with incest in the quest. If FemCOCK wanted the survey to ask about this specific decision, then he should have said so in the question.
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Are we going to make a new thread now? We're way into autosage.

And I'm indifferent to incest but could tolerate it. Voted yes.
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>>23129965

starting a new thread might not be a good idea but this one has been archived
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>>23130023
And it won't be, suptg is down. We'll post a link to foolz in the next thread and maybe it'll be up for the next one.
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Are we going to make a new thread now? We're way into autosage.

And I'm indifferent to incest but could tolerate it. Voted yes.

>>23129981
Yeah. Like the MLP episode with the zebra. Liz could just be kind of racist.
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>>23129893
>>23129965
You really shouldn't use a service like that is so easy to cheat on for something like this.
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>>23130010
He's only asking the question because it's relevant to this specific question.
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>>23129965
>>23129930
Well there's the problem that being opposed to all incest is different from being opposed to having the protagonist have sex with his father.
And allowing incest is not wanting incest, while disallowing is wanting no incest.
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>>23130050
I would hope people won't resort to cheating over something like this.
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Thread archived.
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>>23130050
It probably gives you how many people voted, if its abnormally high then its probably being manipulated.

Or if the percentages swing too far one way. Given that to have 45% on one of the options, at least 20 people must have voted.
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I'm really not in favor of effectively kidnapping and raping random people. Between the time it would take, the chance of failure/retaliation, the potential damage this could do to our relations with other students at large if we're discovered, and the outright assholishness of it, it seems like a bad idea.
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>>23130048
And now I'm imagining Zecora at Scholomance. Thanks, bro
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>>23130096
Yeah, there is blatant cheating happening.
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>>23130103
So what would you recommend, then?
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>>23130115
A lot of people read this quest.

The votes usually reach 20+ in the archives.
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>>23130115
>Yeah, there is blatant cheating happening.
I don't even give a fuck anymore, if they want their incest scene, let's have it and move forward
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>>23130115
Number of people may actually be lower, it looks like it rounds to nearest 5.
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>>23130103
He can probably make it consensual.
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>>23130115
I just checked, you can vote once for each browser, probably more if you clear your browser...
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>>23130123
Not him.

I recommend getting him some blowjobs/handjobs from us, and L&L if they're up for it, to get him back to something stable.

Once we are stable, have working teleporters that only we can use, have good targets and methods of quickly whisking them away, then we can kidnap them and make them into our Dad's fucktoy.
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Yeah, apparently this survey site doesn't have any feature that limits multiple responses, because there are currently 84 responses to the survey. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm pretty certain this quest doesn't have 84 players.
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>>23130159
...seriously?
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>>23130123
Well I'm personally on the incest side, but I'll relent and go with having L&L do it. I'm just saying that abduction is a dumb idea.
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>>23130159
hopefully they tace IPs
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>>23130071
If you think like that then why not just hold the vote on 4chan like normal and hope people don't samefag? If he's going to try and use a survey thing to work out the actual majority he should use one that at least stops the same IP submitting multiple times.
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>>23130159
It's not even based on IP ?
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>>23130173
>Most Popular thread on /tg/ right now!
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>>23130185
do you know one?
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>>23130162
As long as we're not letting dad drain us too much, I guess it's not a problem, but I still think we should keep Liz away from him. She's going for the whole Archmagi thing, so she needs to keep her strength up for the first week.
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>>23130185
Dynamic IP, use a smartphone and reset your connection each time you want to vote.
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>>23130173
Yeah you can vote once per browser. So the big 4 + a few on your phone and well...
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>>23130185
If you know of one, I would be very interested.
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>>23130192
No, it just works on cookies. I have cookies disabled and I can just press back and then press submit again.
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>>23130173
Holy fuck what.

Someone really went overboard.
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>>23130228
Throw in smattering proxy sites....
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I regret ever broaching the subject.
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We're getting something like 20% of all the posts on the board if you check the post numbers. Then add the lurkers...
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>>23130183
>>23130192
>>23130174
Yea I went from Opera(shut up) to chrome and I could vote again.
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Does anyone other than me find it hilarious that people are actually willing to cheat on Blatant Fetish Quest? Like really, how dumb do you have to be to invest yourself that much into it?
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femCOCK, is the cave entrance to the school/cave guarded or anything?

Also, are there any towns/villages nearby?

If it's possible, we should just take dad out and get him a local hooker. This would solve a lot of our problems.

Also, ask dad if he knows a secret way in and out of this place.
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Ok, can most of us all agree to let Lin give him a handjob and a few kisses to give him a bit of energy, then let him seduce someone else, maybe outside of scholomance ?
Unless we can go the voyeuristic route ?
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>>23130173
That seems a bit high. But not too high, lots of lurkers I'm sure.

I didn't samefag, but I'm betting there was samefagging on both sides of the equation. There's no way around any samefagging, though if both sides samefag the one that's bigger will win most of the time so I think incest has more supporters, or at least more determined supporters.

>>23130208
That's why I'm keeping it to handjobs/blowjobs, they shouldn't drain her too much, and if it starts to affect her we just don't have Liz do it more.
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>>23130260
yeah it's based on cookies..
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>>23130173
Which way did it swing?

>>23130243
Well that is a stupid way of doing it....
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off to sleep, don't care about incest at this point as long as we prevent him from being found out.

goodluck.
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>>23130273
/tg/ is the home of people who get too serious and invested about silly things.
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>>23130225
It's always possible to cheat, but you can make it hard. This thing's actually easier to cheat than 4chan - you don't have to write little comments by your vote to seem like a different person.
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>>23130247
About 2/3 of the votes are for incest and 1/3 for not-incest. Even if one side went more overboard than the other, they both went really overboard. Again, unless I've really underestimated how popular this quest is.
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>>23130260
Why?
Is it really that important?
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>>23130298
It is a very popular quest.

Guess it's up to you, either accept the vote as is, or figure out something else. We are rapidly approaching page 10 however.
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>>23130275
That's assuming we can convince Lin. If we can't, we might as well just do it ourself. I also think that finding someone outside of Scholomance to drain sounds like an excellent idea
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>>23130274
We're in the middle of a cave in the middle of Bumfuck Nowhere, Romania. The towns are way out of the way, and getting us out there or bringing a hooker from there here is an awful lot of trouble.

>>23130275
Nope. He does not leave the tower, he does not leave Scholomance, he stays right where he is, hidden, forgotten, and powering our wards and teaching us magic.
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>>23130298
flip a coin, or railroad as you please, it's getting late here
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>>23130275
Works for me
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>>23130279
Thought so, but I'm no expert, I just had a hunch
Intuition +10
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You know what? I don't even care anymore. I regret ever bringing it up in the first place. So let's just take a roll and put all this shit behind us; I couldn't fap at this point even if I got what I wanted.
1, incest is in, 2, it's out, or just ignore this entirely, I don't know.
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>>23130299
I didn't actually vote again, I just wanted to see if you can cheat it.
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>>23130331

New thread. Argue there. Roll while arguing. I'm going to go eat dinner.
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>>23130298
Flip a coin, that's been skewed way too much.
Proportion of samefaggers on each side are not known, the side that has more samefaggers will win. That is not representative of the people in the thread with this small a sample.
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>>23130298
Considering you said it was dead even at first. I'm willing to bet that Incest went more overboard, if only because samfagging takes time. I'd recommend keeping it ambiguous what actually happened.



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