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So, my group of eight players all decided we needed something a tad different from our serious games, and so I now plan on taking them on a journey to a disc. Discworld to be exact, they're going to all be unseen university student and faculty members each the member of one of the eight orders simply trying to survive the facilities, each other, and the various other things Ankh-Morpork has to offer.

First of all I must ask, is this as terrible of an idea as my brain told me before I beat it savagely about the head and shoulders?

Second, exactly what should I be banning out of 3.5 in order to make this game anywhere approaching what wizards can do in Discworld, or should I abandon the system in favor of a better one all together?

Also if anyone would like a summary of what will be their first adventure I would be happy to give it.
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I know there's a Discworld RP system out there, no idea on the quality or what mechanics it's based on.

Honestly, the hardest part is going to be getting the tone right, and the tone is 95% of what makes Discworld Discworld.

So good fucking luck.
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>>23215035
My players are avid discworld fans and I trust they have enough wit to make the game entertaining. I realize tone is the main issue here, and is the reason I am making the game... well...

In the style of discworld is the best way I can describe it. In any event I hope they enjoy oranges.
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>>23214994
You'll have to carefully vet their spells and might want to predetermine their class choices a bit if you plan on them actually gaining levels and such.
On thing I'd pay close attention to is spell components, because they have to get that stuff somewhere et cetera.
While normally it's more of a nuisance it could be an important part of the gameplay.

Mechanics wise I guess it depends on how much action you want, especialy with all Wizards together.
Might want to read up on rules for Wild Magic and otherwise play up their apprentice-ness and the nature of Magic on the Disc (and balance the fact that they could shoot a lot of spells very quickly, otherwise).
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>>23215035
oh, and I looked up the RP system and it's a GURPS splatbook so you can probably pass on that and stick with what you know.

I do *not* think GURPS is the right system for Discworld. I don't think 3.5 is, either, but it's a lot closer.
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Gurps 3rd edition has a disc world supplement and ssj games are making an updated one. Probably mechanically better to use than d&d.
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Wasn't Diskworld magic largely about not doing any magic? Because spells evaporated from your head after you used them and the creatures from the Dungeon Dimensions kept trying to break through?

It would be great if you could write your ass off. A really engaging adventure with the bare minimum of combat (but it makes for great climaxes and show downs, with the players constantly fretting over the decision between immediate threats and awful gribbly hell dimension threats.)
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Honestly, I'd suggest you look for another system. D&D might be ok for Discworld in general, but I don't think you can make the magic system work. Like, at all. If you want to use D20, there's a Black Company book that, while not suitable for Discworld in tone, has a magic system that's a lot closer.
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This is a map i plan to be using in my next campaign.
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>>23215168
Well, this game will have an absolute minimum of combat. The main this it will consist of is the fact that an enormous amount of fruit, of both the "canned" and non canned variety has been appearing around the university. All the cans read "Pop-A-Scone-In-Et Biddler's Canned Fruitery".

They're sent on a wild goose chase to find out what the reason behind this is, and exactly how those factory workers can get fruit inside of a closed cans without magic it's really quite something you know
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>>23215168
There are very competent caster on the Disc, but they tend to not be Wizards.
Wizards tend to be too busy being Wizards to actually cast any spells.
They also operate in a tighly regulated environment with a lot of infighting and power struggleing going on - and especially laziness - that they don't really get around to casting the few spells they normally might.

The spellcaster that actually cast spells are more freelance.
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>>23215219
Hmm...

Okay, you pass.

Godspeed.
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>>23215288
Also all the oranges seem to roll uphill I say seem because the UU slopes in one direction, in fact they're all rolling hubward, but the players are going to need to figure that out for themselves. In other words they're all heading in a particular direction. Also I plan for other events like the changing of the maids An event wracked with tradition, awkwardly placed garters, and emergency stand ins with a tad too much beard, getting to the bottom of what's in the pond which hopefully will lead to them coming to the conclusion that they must drain it and a certain talking chunk of sausage that ends up in someone's dinner and the moral dilemma around eating it it wants to be eaten, as that's it's purpose in life. Unfortunately its mostly tripe
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>>23215315
...I like you.

You have gained my approval for this venture. I wish you the best of luck. Also, I now want you as my DM.
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>>23215315
>mostly tripe

I feel like there is a pun here I'm not getting. It's really like I'm reading a Pratchett book!
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>>23215315
>>23215358
Could it be...
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>>23215383
Couldn't be, Sir Pratchett wouldn't go on /tg/ to test out ideas for his next book. Would he?
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>>23215404
I want to believe.
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>>23215315

Is it going to be another Idea That Takes Over Ankh Morpork? I mean, is this a Soul Music/Moving Pictures/The Truth/parts of Reaper Man story?

In any case, I too approve.

Also, honestly, maybe consider going with something more like FATE? As has been said, if your wizards end up doing magic, something has gone a bit wonky...
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>>23215472
Eh... Discworld wizards do use magic quite a bit. They just generally refrain from tossing around fireballs and doing other flashy stuff except in emergencies.
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>>23215472
It'll start in the the UU, but the oranges and cans will begin appearing all over the city as the campaign progresses. At some point there will be great flows and torrents of oranges and by this point other fruit through the streets. I plan for them to have interactions with the city watch at this point and other character staples.

In all honesty what is actually causing this all is up in the air at the moment depending on how the players react to their whole situation. In any event it will involve a very annoyed spirit by the name of Mr. Kettle and the true meaning of Breakfast.

All the portions of the story, the maids, the lake (kippers are involved), and the sausage; along with other such events, will be heading towards a great breakfast themed finale in a valley that has eternal trapped sunlight with tribes of people whose entire culture is centered around the morning meal. In any event, a certain beverage reigns king and breakfast as we know it will never be the same again
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>>23215404
>>23215456
Why not? Surelly, The Master would be aware of us...
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>>23215534
>>23215525
From this post I can only conclude that it is Sir Terry Pratchett. No one other than him could come up with ideas like this.

I mean come on, the campaign just sounds better and better. I came into this thread expecting another failed attempt at Discworld snakiness, but... this...

This sounds good.
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>>23215525
I haven't even read any of the Discworld books, but I'd play the fuck out of this.
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So, I have to ask... what is the true meaning of breakfast?
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>>23215628
Something whimsical and self-referential, no doubt.
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>>23215638
No, in fact it's Rolled Oats. Everyone always comes in expecting some kind of big reveal and something philosophical. Oatmeal, sticks to your ribs, lots of fiber, puts hair on your chest.

All that hoity toity nonsense with "We squeeze ourselves as we squeeze the juice" and "as do we flip pancakes, so ourselves are flipped" is just a bunch of stuffed shirt old men who can't even chew properly anymore for lack of teeth.
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>>23215716
Welp. You win, that's it. You're Pratchett, that answer is a hundred times better than any whimsical bullshit.
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Yup, I was right.
Hope your friends enjoy your game, Ser.
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>>23215809
>Confused as to purpose of sage
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This should be archived.
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>You will never play a game DM'd by Sir Terry Pratchett.
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>>23215472
Don't forget unseen academicals.

>>23215525
>>23215716
THIS IS...BEAUTIFUL. Godsspeed.

...and now I need to go back and read 'em again.

I would actually still download the Discworld RPG book even if you rightly disdain GURPS, because it has some ideas for very Pratchetty adventurous side-quests and characters (my favourite concept was probably a member member of the somewhat overly romantic street mime resistance.
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I just wanted to thank you fine people for this thread. It made my day at work a lot brighter.
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I think Fate Core is the best option here, since what you want to do is simulate the books and that's what Fate does best, simulate fiction over reality.
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What you need to do is split the group up. Have one group in the City Watch, one group of Wizards, and run them alternate weeks. Heck, even the Wizards group gets a nice variety of classes. After all, you need more than just academics to run a university, you know.

Anyway, yeah, if you are planning on having only wizards, you need to alter the magic system. You're probably better off using a different system than D&D. GURPS might work with an altered magic system, or you might be able to use a system called JAGS, which seems to be quite useful.
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Every time someone important dies you need to show their interaction with death
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>>23215716
For second there I thought I was reading a Pratchett novel.

Godspeed, OP
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>>23215497
Isn't it some MAD thing? Like the wizards in UU don't do a ton of magic because if they did, it would start a magic arms race that would lead to crazy-ass magic wars and they really have everything they want at the UU anyway? Besides, Ridcully doesn't need magic to kick someone's ass.
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>>23219620
But then people would try to die because Death is a total bro!
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>>23219620

When *anyone* dies. Which shouldn't be very often in a Wizards story.

I am 99% sure wizards are able to see Death, but all the examples I can think of are witches and the Rite of AshkEnte. But Death coming to pick someone up, and a Wizard (besides Rincewind who's always the pick-uppee) interacting with him then? Can't think of anything.
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>>23219924
It is explicitly set out in Nanny Ogg's Cookbook that anyone with a particularly strong magical talent (witches and wizards are the important ones, though) can see Death. I would think it would probably extend to fated heroes, although I wouldn't bet on it.
It's also explicitly mentioned that the existence of a Death (this includes Susan filling in when Death Himself decides to go on holiday) is very important for ensuring that the process of death goes as planned. See Reaper Man for details.
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>>23215716
> Rolled Oats
As an avid /ck/er, I MUST disagree. The actual meaning of breakfast is Unrolled Oats (or Whole Oats) prepared in a slow cooker overnight, served with fine goat cheese and a chopped granny smith apple, or other sour green apple. But by all means, go with Rolled Oats - abandon the most sacred of traditions for modern convenience. See if I care. Next you'll be paying double for BIO Rolled Oats, an oxymoron if I ever saw one.
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>still reading Dr. Seuss equivalent books
>Past the age of seven
Why?
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>>23215167
lolgurps
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>>23215167
There's two old 3rd Edition supplements, actually. And I've got high hopes about the upcoming one.

If you can handle running GURPS, its perfect. If not, its the perfect places to steal ideas.
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>>23220755

>/ck/'s reaction to possibly Pratchett posting on /tg/

My god, I bet it's an endless carnival of laughs over your way.
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>>23220802
Dissing Pratchett and Discworld in general is a bannable offense on /tg/.
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>>23220995
Don't bother, mate. Its just a troll.
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>>23220995

Moot really should put that in the rules.

>>23220802

F-, you'll have to try harder than that.
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>>23215188
What i love about that map:

The artist went back through every book written by Terry up to that date for any information about the layout of the city. What he discovered was that the modest number of precise directions and locations Pratchett mentioned in relation to each other, all fit neatly together, even down to what structures would be visible from where in the skyline.
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>>23221017
What i hate about that map:

It won't fit my screen neatly and It's not on parchment hanging on my wall
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>>23221017

Sir Terry still is one of the best worldbuilders since Tolkien or Moorcock.
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>>23221012
I may be lightly trolling, but the books are written for that of a fourth or fifth grade education.
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>>23214994

I once ran an all wizard game...

I forgot how it ended.
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>>23220981
We're not all like this twat, I swear. This one has the assburgers.
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>>23221017
There are no gifs or images to show how much my mind has just been blown, so have a picture of a turtle instead. Also, polite sage.
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>>23221075
Fuck. I keep forgetting to actually sage.
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>>23221051
In that they're light reading material, yes. Your average member of Western Civilization (on either side of the Atlantic) reads at between a 4th and 6th grade reading level. Choosing low on the average for light reading material is actually the writing industry's benchmark, and usually a good method for getting widespread popularity.

In the meantime, the books themselves provide interesting and comprehensible plots, as well as humor and fairly intricate characters.

I'm seeing nothing wrong so far. Are you bitching because they're light reading material that can be read and enjoyed quickly?
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>>23220981
>>23221071
I... I might have a problem. Sorry.
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>>23221059
Cut that shit out.
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>>23221059

Low blow, man.
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>>23221115

It's going to be "too soon" for a long time.
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>>23221051

Yeah, nah, you're a cunt.
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>>23220755
And thus, the first schisim in the cult of breakfast was caused.
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>>23221138
No. Fuck you.
You asked for this.
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>>23221138
Wasn't it established that Pratchett's alzheimer's wasn't the kind where you outright forget things, but some other special kind?
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>>23221014
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>>23221172

That could just be wishful thinking on our part.
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>>23221172
Yup, the one that ruined everything else.
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>>23221167
God damnnit. Every fucking time.
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>>23221187
>>23221172
He will remember, he just wont know how to type, or keep a conversation going.

A mind doing 110 miles an hour, but unable to steer or see out the windows
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>>23215131
You can preform the ritual of Ank Ensh(? been a while) with 3cc's of mouse blood, and a bit of driftwood. Spell components and all those big candles, pentagrams on the floor, skulls and so on are all for SHOW, and only used by doddering old wizards, clinging to their glory days. Make way for the ingenuity of youth, dinosaurs!
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>>23221230
>Talent: High Energy-mage
>Advantagel: you may reduce or substitute most spellcrafting ingredients for the purposes of rituals, this is the result of being practical and efficient about your magical use.
>Disadvantage: Other people see how efficient and dependable you are, and tend to ask you to do other things too. your work load is much greater than that of an ordinary wizard.
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This thread is so full of win. Now I want to do a disc world inspired game as well
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>>23215188

Apparently there's an app in the Apple Store with an interactive map including all sorts of hooks and information that were in notes and mentioned in stories.

Perhaps you want to pick that up too?
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>>23221270
Sounds like witches magic.

Four penguin candles, a washtub, a handful of all-season spices and a pinch of sand from my souvenir bottle.
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>>23215131
That kind of varies per book. In "The Last Continent", I remember then freely casting stuff at least while in a high magic field. At least past the first couple of books, Terry seems to have abandoned the "learn it for many years, cast it once, poof it's gone" system. Or maybe Rincewind was describing some horrible edge case.

And as >>23221230 notes, the ingredients established high-ranking university wizards see as essential differ from what are the actual materials needed to cast a spell. Theoretically, the Disc should be able to support one last Global Thaumaturgic War, where madmen on high towers fling rips in the very fabric of space at each other by will alone. But just the one.
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>>23221230
>says spell components are all for show
>mentions mouse blood and driftwood as though they aren't components

Young people these days. You get so caught up in what's you're thinking that you don't think about what you're saying.
And skulls are fucking sweet, shut your mouth.
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>>23221167
Goddamnit.

it was a good day up until now.
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>>23221354
>>23221224

Why do you guys feel this story is sad? Death is the way of things, the end to life. Pratchett won't live forever and every baby suckling at this moment will die.

He goes out like a boss with an extraplanar tour of his own creation. What exactly is bad about this?
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>>23221385
Personally I read it as Terry dying in our world to take his place as the creator of the Discworld.
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>>23221385
Because it's going out diminished, and no matter how natural the process is, it still leaves the rest of us short one literary genus.
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>>23221385
Dying isn't what sad, but dying mentally years before his body is.
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Well everyone, OP here. I am sorry to inform you all that despite my myriad of rituals and regular sacrifices of blood pudding to the literary gods, many of which are pretentious douche bags mind youI am not Sir Terry Pratchett. I have a few more things that I must seek for your advice.

As with all Discworld related things the book will use non-serious ideas to cover serious matters. in this case the whole breakfast thing will bring on the ideas of worker's rights and labor unions The Yolkies are one such union that will form during the campaign, guess what job they have.... I just want to give you all a nice overview of what will be happening in the books.

Also, does anyone know how to cook dinosaur those big lizard hits with their pretentious wavy little arms eggs?
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>>23221466
If you aren't Pratchett then why do you write like him?

Check and mate.
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>>23221385

There's no shame in mourning the loss of a truly brilliant mind.
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>>23221466
In a volcano or meteoric crater.

>>23221486
Inspiration I'd assume.
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>>23221464
By that same token, if when he dies Death truly comes for him, then he will leave all his mortal ailments. There will be no failing mind confusing and confounding him anymore.

So for me, that little short story is actually kinda happy.
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>>23221466
Well... you could treat it as a coconut - slice off the top with a machete, pour out the contents, in this case in a large bowl, then make an omelette. Or you could dig a pit, make a fire, fill the pit with coals from the fire, put the egg in, put some more coals on top and bury it for about 10 minutes (maybe, can't be sure how long), then get a big spoon and dig in. Eggs are a simple food on their own and the only difference the dino ones have is being large and having a thick shell.
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>>23221521
I would still want him to leave with a bang, and not a whimper.

>>23221466
Hmmm... Everyone, I believe we might be dealing with a pre-rebirth of Pratchett. Does anyone thing this guy should write a new discworld book?
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>>23221521
Yes, but the fact remains that NO MORE BOOKS FOREVER.
It would be a great thing for him, but not for the rest of us. The sorrow is directed towards ourselves.
Now I also feel like a selfish asshole. Great.
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>>23221521
I just hope he'll go in body before in mind, just being unable to take a mental image to paper is aggravating, being unable to complete a line of though or a sentence...
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>>23221569
Ah yes, no magic then?
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>>23221521

And imagine the adventure. Dunmanifestin would have some interest in meeting the Creator of Creators. The Wizards would know him, or recognize what he was. Plenty of time for a whirlwind tour of the Disc before it is all destroyed due to the death of its author. How do they solve the dilemma? Tune in for Pratchett's Last Book.
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>>23221224
I tried not to cry when watching the documentary he did about assisted Seleucid and his thoughts on them. This just put me over.
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>>23221596
He's training up his daughter Rihanna as a successor. She's set to be working on the Watch TV series and he's said she'll be writing Discworld books after his death. Usually I'm against this sort of thing but then again, usually the author didn't train an actual heir to their series.
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>>23221616

I assume you mean assisted suicide and you suffered some kind of autocorrect malfunction.
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>>23221629
As long as it's passion that'll drive her writing rather than a misguided sense of duty I'm ok with that.
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Does this put anyone else in mind of that Platescape thing we did the other day? With the Elemental Plain of Breakfast?
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>>23221676
Besides the fact both involve breakfast... not really.
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>>23221609
>destroyed due to the death of its author.

Hardly. I still read the books. And I'll introduce them to my kids. The Disc isn't going anywhere. Metaphysically, anyway.
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>>23221645
yes I just realized that sorry.
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>>23221629
But who should be the real heir, Rihanna or OP?
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>>23221604
It's an egg. What would you expect?

We could think of a ritual with eight heavy men balancing it upturned while also dancing, each holding the egg with his right hand and waving a bell with his left and a young girl in a ceremonial dress standing on top, shouting "Come and Get IT" four times in each cardinal direction while stomping on it, then having the egg levitated and dropped in a pit of boiling water. The point of the routine is to have all the egg insides settled so that all the air inside forms a bubble on the other end and the cooking makes that part of the shell easy to crack. Which is pointless today, since we have better tools than "blunt rock" and "slightly less blunt rock" to eat breakfast with, but you know - tradition.
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>>23221716
What if Rihanna IS the OP, and this thread is a testbed of her abilities?
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>>23221771
If so I approve of her ability and welcome the next book... titled... titled...

OP, what's it gonna be called?
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>>23221771
B-but if she's here, and /tg/ is one person...
Oh God.
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>>23221755
But what about the pepper? Eggs always need to be eaten with pepper. I'm sure those blokes back in the day with their rock fascination has enough time to spare a thought for that. It's not as if they were cave men.
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>>23221790
Grits.
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>>23221824
Pepper is for omelettes and stir-fried eggs and whatnot. We're just making a simple boiled egg. Obviously you couldn't have an omelette in pre-balloon-whisk times, which is when most traditions were formed.
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>>23221790

An entire book from the POV of Binky.

Fifty Shades of Hay.
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>>23221833
Thanks for making me laugh like a little bitch. That's it, even if you're not Rihanna you win.
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>>23221771

Rihanna, I will pay you in any form you desire to invite me to your next game. I'm serious.
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>>23221846
Ah yes, how the great scholars decided to divide history, very good on them mind you. PBW and ABW, can't see any problem with that. All neat and orderly, properly defined and what have you. However, if we're talking about tradition, then how did they get their hands on these eggs if they were only laid this morning? Hmmm?

Still though...

Pass the pepper?
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>>23221167
holy fuck,
im actually crying
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>>23221911

I can imagine the Runny Yolkers and Hard Yolkers have some contention.
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>>23221172
My grandfather had Alzheimers.

It started out small - he was unable to get the fork in his mouth on the first try without concentrating, or he was unable to walk normally without starting out at a shuffle.

By the end, he was asleep practically all the time, and his memory was not just foggy - it was practically going backwards.
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>>23221172

Pratchett's Alzheimer's was a slow burning thing that attacked different portions of the brain. Some cases focus almost exclusively on memory, some motor skills, some fuck with the body in other neurological ways.

If it progresses he will become very, very forgetful and lose it.
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Bumping an awesome thread.
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>>23221635
oh wow, OH WOW. That picture. Oh wow
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>>23221331
Guess ill finally have to get a smartphone then...
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>>23221385
Not like this...



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