I carefully pull out my cell phone, and type a message to the only Ally I have in the area.'Found camp, bad-guy presence, possible hostage. Can you assist?'I wait to see if there's any response before my phone gives me the following return. 'Maybe. Found weird signs, no clues. Where are you?'I give her a general idea of my current location, not knowing exactly myself.I creep a little further away to get a better vantage point while I plot my next move.I'm fairly certain I could confront Shinji or break open the cell with no issue, the problem is in attempting both by myself.It should be easy once Arc arrives. If she gets here before Avenger or Gil do. Assuming she can find the place.I bite my lip. I have an opportunity to do something right now, but if I do I tip my hand. And that won't matter if they accomplish whatever they're doing, or I can't actually USE my advantage.[ ] Confront Shinji.[ ] Rescue Hostage.[ ] Wait for backup.[ ] Other.>Special thanks to Char of Bright quest for the new OP image. I think that's the first actual fan-art for this thing, technically.
>>23232088Be sneaky creep up behind Shinji be menacing
>>23232189forgot my tag
>>23232088Talk to Shinji, for all we know he might be getting forced into this or not know the full scope of the people he's working for.
>>23232088>[ ] Confront Shinji.Konk him on his useless noggin.
I won't be up to participate tonight.Take the Ebook version of the 26th verse instead if you haven't already seen the link on Twitter.http://www.mediafire.com/?p1a05d3hd59jnxp
>>23232088>[ ] Confront Shinji."For Broserker."
>>23232088>[ ] Confront Shinji.We find out what the FUCK he's still doing in town when we told him to get out.
>Quick clarification, for 'confront' are you guys wanting to put the sneak on him? Or just step out and talk to him?
>>23232392Put the sneak on him, grab him, and drag him off into the woods to have a talk. We go full Nightwing on this punk.
>>23232392sneak up behind him
>ArcI have never been in these threads and I think I am just going to back out without trying because there is no good reason for there to be an Arc in any Fate story (that includes Fate/Extra)
>>23232419>There actually was a very specific reason for it, though 'good' is debatable.
I decide to make a move.[DC 12 Tactical Operation check]
Rolled 1>>23232585NAT 1 FUCK YOUUUU
Rolled 1>>23232585ROLLINGU(ehh, I'll stay for a bit)
>>23232595>>23232597ITS HAPPENING AGAIN
Rolled 8>>23232595>>23232597EVERYTHING IS TERRIBLE
>>23232595>>23232597And then Shinji stabbed us in the dick.The end.
>>23232656No, it's not over until he faps to our corpse and declares himself to be "the lowest of the low". THEN it's over.
>>23232595>>23232597Clearly I should have left when I said I would leave....I'd like to hand in my title as sexy faceless god of rolling. I don't think I deserve that title anymore.
Rolled 15>>23232688I am at fault too brother.Let us commit sudoku together.
>Shit, sorry guys. My internet went out for a second there.>I'm already writing the next part.
I step forward crouched, trying to remain as quiet as I can.The sudden tug catches me entirely by surprise, as a bent tree grabs my ankle and lifts me upside down into the air.My moment of complete surprise is punctuated by Shinji's panicked yelp as he reaches for a bow next to his tent.[DC 12 Escape check]
Rolled 11>>23233046Buggin out
Rolled 8>>23233046Shinji's a bitch, we should have no worries even if we fail.
Rolled 11>>23233046R-rolli-->>23233067Okay, we'll live. I'll roll a D20 anyway, and if it's under 10 I'm turning dice off the remainder of the thread.
Rolled 10>>23233104>lower than 10.>11Looks like you make the grade. Barely.
Luckily it's a simple length of rope. A simple projected knife later has me free. And just in time to see an arrow pass where my face was only a second ago.I hit the ground with a stumble, but on my feet. Shinji looks even more freaked out, but he's also prepared another arrow.[DC 12 Combat check]
Rolled 7>>23233160SWORDS MOTHERFUCKER, I AM MADE OF THEM
Rolled 5>>23233160ITS HAPPENING
Rolled 1>>23233160Dude chill out you look like you've never had someone sneak up on you with a knife before.
>>23233186Where's my luck stat tonight?
Rolled 10>>23233188>>23233189EVERY IS STILL TERRIBLE BUT THANKFULLY LESS TERRIBLE/nice save
Rolled 7, 3, 4, 7, 19, 7, 9, 16, 20, 9, 18, 11, 10, 9, 9, 7, 14, 14, 3, 4, 11, 10, 9, 20, 4 = 254>>23233185>>23233186>>23233188Well this is embarrassing. And in front of Shinji of all people.
I try to duck out of the way, but the arrow catches me in the shoulder. It's a painful reminder that Shinji's actually a pretty good shot.I stumble and miss a step, watching him nock another arrow desperately. I could probably close the gap and stop him if I can focus enough to reinforce my legs.[DC 13 Magecraft]
Rolled 7>>23233263Should have brought the gun...
Rolled 1>>23233263Here goes nothing
Rolled 12>>23233263>>23233274wow my dice took for ever too post
Rolled 16>>23233283>>23233284SAVED AGAIN.HOLY CARP
Rolled 11>>23233263TRACE, ONTRIGGER, OFFSET: LEGS, DON'T FAIL ME NOW
>>23233284>>23233287I'm glad you people aren't being counted - it's only the first 3 rolls that are linked to the post that are.
>>23233284>>23233287Oh god we are going to get killed by Shinji.Why.
Rolled 18>>23233327They rolled later.Be at peace anon. Only:>>23233278>>23233281>>23233283count.
>>23233317Oh, it was changed? Aw, I liked the earlier system of 20s and 1s canceling and shit.I guess keeping track of SO MANY NUMBERS is a pain.
Rolled 5>>23233339Par for the course
"Oooh noo, don't bother taking the gun. It's useless. There's no humans in the Grail war who'd pose any kind of threat to us anyway."YOU SURE KNOW BEST, MOTHERFUCKERS!
>>23233339The bike has a brother named Shinji.
>>23233365We want information from shinji, Information is a bit harder to get when someone is dealing with the shock of a GUNSHOT WOUND. Shirou is also not good at fixing *any* wounds, but he's much more likely to be able to create nonlethal ones with his methods than with his fathers.
>>23233348They do cancel, but in any case only the first three count.If our first three rolls are a 1, a success, and a fail, then the 1 cancels the success leaving us with a fail.
>>23233348The system was always first three rolls, best one counts. the 20s and 1s only cancel if they're both in the same roll.
>>23233406Does a natural 20 mean anything?What would 1/20/1 get us?
>>23233401Because Shinji is TOTALLY gonna try and use a bow against a guy who's got him at gunpoint.
Rolled 5>>232334261, 20 and 1 means final score 1 and a very bad day.
>>23233426Probably a critical fail. One 20 only cancels one Nat 1.
>>23233426Nat 20 is generally just a success. 1/20/1 would still be a crit fail.
I kick the ground heavily, and go right under the arrow. He doesn't fire a fourth.I knock the bow aside with a quick backhand, and he drops the arrow he was picking up while raising his hands in a gesture of surrender."Shinji.""Shirou." He responds, clearly struggling to remain calm."You just shot me.""You were sneaking up on me with a knife. I thought you were going to kill me.""I wasn't, but now I'm not sure." I respond with a slight growl. He winces, but stays his ground.[ ] What he's doing.[ ] Why he didn't leave.[ ] His allegiance.[ ] The Hostage.[ ] Other.
>>23233401How about the prana bullet gun? Seems less lethal than thrown bladed weaponry.We should totally invest in non-lethal weaponry/magic to continue this superhero shtick.
>>23233437>>23233445>>23233450So 20s aren't a double-success or anything. Okay.(Although perhaps succeeding on a[n uncancelled-out] 20 could still result in "exceptional success" or whatever.)
>>23233455>[ ] His allegiance.First things first.>>23233456Like maybe a tazer?
>>23233455"Who the hell is that in the cage, and what are you doing with them?"
>>23233471Seems to. It's how we got away with that spectacular flimflamming on Gil a while ago.
Rolled 2>>23233455>[ ] What he's doing.>[ ] Why he didn't leave.>[ ] His allegiance.>[ ] The Hostage.ALL OF THEM in that order.
>>23233456Shirou can't do the non-sword magic. Trying to will result in horrible catastrophic failure for everyone.
>>23233455>[ ] The Hostage.
>>23233455>[ ] Why he didn't leave.
>>2323347120s are only canceled by Nat 1s. If there's only general failures and successes, we still have some kind of exceptional result. The failures and successes will moderately influence it though. Getting two 20s tends to be when we pull the stupidest shit in this thread.
>>23233492He did it before. It has horrible consequences when we don't have the energy to accomplish it.
>>23233492The mana bullet gun is from the magic crest that archer gave us, and that's works simply by running the prana in our body through the portion of the crest that activates that spell. We can do it, but it's still probably lethal to the average mook like shinji.
Rolled 14>>23233455Credit wheres its due.He didn't shoot once he recognised it was shirou.Maybe hes not so hopeless after all.
>>23233455Ask about his allegiance. Also Shinji I'm a better shot then you, why should I sneak up on you when I could've just shot you?
>>23233455>[x] What he's doing."Tell me what these runes and the ones scattered in the city are for. I know you are working for someone who uses them."
Rolled 16>>23233541Can you imagine the amount of shit he would be in if he killed us and Arc found Shirou's body with his arrows in it?I kinda want it to happen just to see the glorious smackdown our girls will administer.
>>23233554yes taunt Shinji this pleases ClericMan
>>23233581but he doesn't know that
>I have no idea who voted for what.
Rolled 7>>23233609When in doubt, everything.
>>23233609His allegiance seems to be most important, then the other 3 are equal.
"So. You're working for the guy setting these sigils around town?""Avenger." He responds. "I was getting on a train to get out of town for a while when he grabbed me and told me I can work for him, or die horribly." He frowns. "Then he gives me jobs with a high chance of terrible death, but it's not like any other option looks good.""Horrible death?""Trying to track down Lancer's Master. Trying to blackmail the Red Archer into killing certain targets. Now I'm on guard duty. I don't know who that even is, but it's pretty much certain that if she leave's the Gold Archer buddy of Avenger is going to use me as Target practice.">Questions?
>>23233808Runes. What are they for? How are they deactivated? (Preferably en masse.)
>>23233808Ask him about the MAGIC RRRRRRRUNES LADDIE!
Rolled 16>>23233808"Where did you pick that girl up and what are those runes for?"Dammit, are we going to have to bring him into our protection? Hes still Sakura's brother...
>>23233808Any idea who she is? Or what she is?I'm actually feeling a bit sorry for Shinji, tries to get out but they keep pulling him back in.
Do we nead a maid/toady/yesman/slave/puppychewtoy/riderchewtoy/rinchewtoy/practicedummy/club if so i say we take him and the hostage home under the conditions that he gets locked in the closet and he gets regular beatings
>>23233872Just tell him that we'll keep him safe from everyone but his sister. Any problems those two have, he's going to have to handle himself.
>>23233848Unless he's lying through his teeth, then it looks like it.Fucking fucker playing to our good side. Fuckdamn shitcunts.
Rolled 9>>23233848>>23233864>>23233872You guys do realise that in light of what he did to Sakura, Rin is going to kill him if and when we bring him back? doitdoitdoittotallyokwiththis
>>23233899Fuuuuuck. Thats a good point. Bringing him back to the house would be MORE dangerous for him.Well Shinji, looks like you're shit out of luck.
>>23233872Put him under Arc watch duty. He wants power and ladies? Fine, give it to him in droves.
>>23233939He can be her guide/translater. Someone will finally be able to explain baseball to Arc!
>>23233939Do you WANT to watch him get cut to ribbons by Shiki?This is a great plan. Let's watch.
>>23233939>>23233950>>23233964Oh god yes. This.
>>23233939How exactly are we ordering Arc around, I wasn't here for thatHer personality is more of a wanderer who will listen to nobody for any reason.
>>23233989It's really more "Both of us want to know why the FUCK there's a vampire dicking around with the Grail War, so we're working together." thing, really.
Rolled 14>>23233989We don't.We offer her suggestions and shes on what she sees fit.
>>23234005>>23234007I think it's going to be a very hard check indeed to convince that vagrant to watch someone like Shinji.
"Alright. What about the runes? What are they for?""The ones on the shed? Anti-scrying and containment I think. I can't think of anything else he'd bother with.""What about the ones around town?""... Around town? I know there's one at the school I think that one's a alarm more than anything.""Alarm?""Yeah. If anybody does any magic near it, he'd know. Between You, Me, Rin, Sakura..... How many other Masters and Magi might be connected to the school? Seemed like a safe bet to me, so he put one there.""And you don't know about any of the others.""Nope.""How do I know you aren't lieing?"".... Because you have me at your mercy and I'm not exactly a loyal minion? If It weren't for this freaking mark I'd switch teams right now.""Mark?"He rolls up his sleeve slightly, showing a mark around one wrist like a bracelet. "Tracking. And I don't know what else, they started laughing when i asked them if it could do anything else. I mean, it's not like it needs to...." He looks away frustrated. "So unfortunately, I get to be a meat-shield until Avenger wins or I get killed. Assuming he decides to let me live when this is all over, since he doesn't have a high opinion of me." His eyes come back to my face, a mixture of sad and irritated. "Then again, I don't think I'm in ANYBODY'S good books at the moment. Some reasons more deserved than others.">Actions?
Rolled 14>>23234032Take a picture.Send to Rin.THEN CALL HER, ask her to go over it with Caster, see if theres anything we can do.
>>23234032"well it looks like will have to amputate"I vote we remove his arm
>>23234048This. We have people back at the house who know FAR more about this shit than either we or Shinji do.
>>23234069I love this plan! I'm excited to be a part of it! Let's do it!
Rolled 16>>23234069Are you crazy? That sport belongs to Ayako and Sakura
>>23234032Um... Crying hostage in the shed? At least reassure her that things will be alright.It won't.
>>23234032Any idea who the hostage is? Then take picture see if mark can be removed, only start messing with it after the hostage is dealt with one way or another.
I snap a couple of quick pictures, and send then to Rin. A moment later, I get a call."Shirou? What is this I'm looking at? And where are you?""The pictures are of Shinji's wrist. I found him, by the way. Apparently Avenger kidnapped him and was using him for some sort of disposable labor."".... Wait, when did you leave? Why are you alone?""I told you I was going, and it's not like I can take a servant into the anti-magic forest."".... Wait, when did you tell me you were leaving?""Right before Sakura and Rider went to talk to you about something." I respond confused. "You don't remember?""NO!" She yells, suddenly... flustered? "Listen, I don't know what those marks mean.""He said it was probably just tracking. Would amputation help?" Shinji's eyes go impossibly wide as I voice the question.".... No. Even if you could stop the bleeding, they could find the arm and use a sympathetic link to track him pretty easily.">Actions?
>>23234177Okay, let's check out the hut. See if we can see the hostage.
>>23234177"What about dissolving the arm in hydrofluoric acid, yo?"
>>23234177Raw magic can counteract magic, although the results might be unpleasantly explosive.Consult Rin if this would be a superior alternative to amputation.
>>23234204Or fire. Fire is nice
>>23234177>Airhead RinWas... was she masturbating when we spoke to her or something?
>>23234177I'm more worried by the fact she doesn't remember that we had left than Shinji at the moment. Maybe I'm just paranoid.
>>23234177"And Caster? It might be a old magic since you don't recognise it."
>>23234177Don't suppose burning the mark off would work. Any way to tell if the mark is just a bluff? Or if it is just tracking why not just have Shinji leave with Arc? I mean worse case scenario they go after him and Arc curbstomps them.
>>23234240Checking archive now.She was apparently seeming kinda distracted, so maybe she isn't a sinister doppelgänger.This time.
>>23234242No. We've had shapeshifters before.ALART. FOLKS PLEASE CHECK IF THAT RIN WAS A FAKE.
>>23234177When in doubt - Trace on. Trace the blody thing and see if Shirou can tap into it like he did the Einzbern Family Forest. Perhaps summon up Rule Breaker (Shirou saw it used on Red Archer in the church, and also saw Red Archer's Traced Version hit Saber that same night) and try breaking the enchantment that way.
>>23234177what if we cut it off then destroyed the arm?
>>23234242Ditto. I'm hoping she was just very distracted at that point, otherwise this could be another Avenger imposter plot.>>23234177Since the coast is relatively clear, I guess we can give Arc a heads up on the phone now.
>>23234177Time for Rule Breaker projectan?
>>23234177"We can grow a new hand from cells right?"If yes we can cut off his hand and burn it and later restore it.
>>23234261Nah, that was Rin doing a "Prana Transfer" and / or "Servant Switching", I'd guess.Of course, could be wrong. But the flustered thing fits with Couitus Implicatus.
>>23234286OH FUCK YES.THIS.I'm an idiot for forgetting about this.
>>23234261Y'know it's also possible that she went to talk to Rider and Sakura about our request to mana transfer and she's distracted with thoughts of the impending foursome.Just kidding she's totally an imposter
>>23234306Prepping to switch Rider aback to Sakura?Purplecest is best cest
Rolled 4>>23234286PREEMPTIVE 1 USAGE!!
>>23234286Let it be done!"Just a little prick. I take no pleasure in this."
>>23234286>>23234355>>23234359..have we even *seen* rule breaker? I Don't think we have.
>>23234386Yes.You do remember that Saber is no longer our servant?
>>23234386We have when Shirou tried to heal Sakura. Archer also projected it during his betrayal.
Goddammit Rin.We know it wasn't Arc this time (unless shes just trolling the everliving fuck out of us), so assuming Rin isn't just being a ditz then WHO THE FUCK DID WE TALK TO?
>>23234504>unless shes just trolling the everliving fuck out of usLet's be honest here, she would.
>>23234504I think her brain was overheating at the thought of shacking it up with !Shirou.
>>23234514yeah... she would.But for the sake of my sanity lets assume she isn't just fucking with us for no reason.
"What if we destroyed the arm when severed? Like in acid or burned it or something?"".... Not sure that would help. I mean, it would have to be COMPLETELY destroyed.""What about tracing it and breaking it with magic?""... That could work, if it were a trinket or enchanted item. It usually destroys it though. All you might do is blow the arm off." There's a pause. "I'm not sure how I feel about you suddenly being so cavalier about someone's life.""Well, it is Shinji. Is there any way we could make the arm regrow If it were cut off and destroyed?"".... Not that I'm aware of. I mean, there's ways to heal, but healing isn't the same as regrowing a lost limb. I mean, there's probably a way, but I don't know and we aren't equipped for it.""... Damn. does Caster have any ideas?"There's a long pause. "She says she'd need to see it in person. And she doesn't want to go anywhere near one of Avenger's tracking spells.""Would using the Contract-breaking dagger thing help?"".... She says 'maybe', but doesn't recommend stabbing him in the wrist. Especially since you don't know healing spells.">?
>>23234532The butt, then.Big things, like big ass needles, go in the butt.
>>23234532jesus fuck Rule Breaker only needs to stab in like half an inch deep to take effect, Shinji can fucking deal with a band-aid.
>>23234532...alright, let's put this thought on ice for a minute and go look at the hostage instead.Because that's niggling at me.
>>23234532Does Rule Breaker actually care where you stab them?Because if it doesn't, just give him a cloth to bite down on and stab somewhere fleshy and non-vital.
>>23234564like the butt?
Rolled 5>>23234532Give him Archer's old arm.Remove the shroud.???
>>23234532Even if Shirou doesn't project it, take a moment and Trace Rule Breaker to learn exactly what it does. It might have more effect(s) than just 'Contract Nullification'.Doing so should also allow Shirou to know exactly how Rule Breaker needs to be used.
>>23234564Stab him in the ass dont go near the captive till Arc shows up
>>23234564The only places we've ever seen it been stabbed is directly in the heart. It probably does not need to be localized, it would just instantly apply to all contracts that the target is under.Do we count this thing as a contract? It might be some other weird magic that Rule Breaker doesn't affect at all.
>>23234557I second this notion.
>Clarification: You would need to stab him in the mark, which is right over an artery.>The reason the Rule Breaker could sever the Master/Servant bond is because they're connected magically. For a specific rune, the rules are slightly different.
>>23234623Ah. Point. Servants are basically made out of prana, so I guess it wouldn't matter there.
>>23234623Can we stab him in the butt anyways?
>>23234623Thats a very small mark then.Aim for fleshy bi->Arc is comingNOPE LETS STOP.LETTING HER SEE BLOOD IS A BAD BAD THING.
>>23234623Shirou could probably manage the skills of nicking it shallow enough to not harm Shinji, but Shinji being a twitchy coward will probably throw him off leading to BLOOD EVERYWHERE.Let's hold off on it for now.
>>23234623fuck it lets find something to tie him up with while we wait for Arc, still against going near the shed with out her
>>23234623Then let him know we have an artifact that can sever contracts. We'll get him out of this in abit.We should bring him into town with a first aid kit and stab him later.In any case, LET RIN KNOW THE PURPOSE OF THE MARKS AROUND TOWN.
>>23234652He kinda shot us in the arm already. We are bleeding.
>>23234726That's a very good point. We should do something about that.
>>23234674When Caster dispelled the Boundary Field (Blood Fort) around the High School, she mentioned seeing two vampires, but nothing specific.Granted, Rider does drink Blood, and we have Arc running around, but I'm sure that Caster can tell the difference between a Servant draining people of Prana and a Vampire draining people of life. Plus, Arc did say she just got here.The girl, if not a friend, is probably a Vampire. As Shinji who it is.Also, Blood in front of Arc is probably a bad idea as well. Shirou needs to fix that arrow wound he received, yesterday.
>>23234726Better heal up then.
>>23234758Calling it, the girl is Altrouge.
>>23234652>>23234747>>23234758>>23234763Has Arc been injured or in any form of distress? She can handle blood if she has nothing compromising 70% of her internal power schema.
>What's the plan exactly?
>>23234787You sound like you haven't read Tsukihime.It's a psychological compulsion for human blood. Arc is very much not human.
>>23234810HEAL UP. CLEAN UP BLOOD.Tell Shinji, we'll save him but for now we need to tie him up for our safety and his, example if he attacks us, we might kill him. Assure him we'll break the contract without losing his arm.
>>23234781Oh God Damn It.
>>23234810Seeing a lot of wait for Arc and fixing the arrow wound.
>>23234814To be fair, Arc got chopped into little pieces very early in Tsukihime, and that was kinda throwing her off for most of it.
>>23234816>not loving the DickOh please, EVERYONE loves the Dick. See >>23231809 for more information on why you should love the Dick too.
>>23234814Arcueid was in extreme duress for the Far Side of Tsukihime, being cleaved into 17 parts put her at around 50% maximum energy.She had less than 1% to herself and was stressed beyond recognition to hold back her bloodlust. Her natural state balances 70% restraint, 30% free energy.She can handle blood normally. She can't when she's running on -20% required output to restrain her bloodlust.
>>23234834FUCKING SHITTY FANART, ALTROUGE DOESN'T HAVE A CANON DESIGN.>>23234816On the bright side, if she's a hostage that means Avenger can somehow keep her on lockdown and prevent her from horribly murderating us.
>>23234866Just because Altrouge can't murder us doesn't mean we can't still get Primate Murder'd though.
Rolled 20>>23234810Stab shinji in the ass with ruru braker.Clean up blood.
>>23234866I posted that for one reason, Mr. Capslock: She's Number 9. IX. The signature on the note we got out of Rin's Rune-corrupted Familiar.If it IS Altrouge, then she's the one doing the rune magic around town.
>>23234884If it's Altrouge, we're getting Primate Murdered.Primate Murder is not really a thing you can avoid killing you, if you end up fighting it.If you're human, at least.But I suppose we might not be.
>>23234901Yeah, well, her hand is backwards.
>>23234908It doesn't just work against "humans". It works against "primates". Servants, vampires, spirits, humans, apes, all fall under the umbrella and under Primate Murder's supreme killing dominion.
>>23234901We did ask Arc about the number nine and any significance it might have earlier.She said it shows up in two places connected to vampires, and what was going on here didn't really look like either.So pray that it is not Altrouge.
>>23234932Oh, I am. The little I know about Arc's Older Sister places her firmly in both the 'Do Not Want' and 'Catastrophe' categories.Heal up, and ID the prisoner, STAT.
[x] Aski Shinji about the Hostage aka "Little girl."[x] Tell him also what we`re up to"Look Shinji. As it is right now, I can prbably save you. I can also probably protect you from Avenger and rest of the people who try to gut you like the pig that you are... There are risks involved. You could die when I try to get that mark off of you. You could die in 1001 ways different and horrible ways while we`re retreating and even if we make it to my house, aka the Base of Operations for this Grail-War where actually most masters are gathered right now there is a chance that some of girls there might want to have your head of a silver plate.. But, despite all that happened we were friends in the past and even now I wouldn`t able to look at myself in the mirror if I would leave a friend behind. So the decision belongs to you, Shinji. Do want to flee your whole live ... or do you want to take the hard route and start making amends for it. It`s never too late to do the right thing." This is how I Hero of Justice.
>>23234972At least three of the people who want to gut him like the pig he is are on our side, you realize.
>>23234986Rin would gut him like a fishRider would smack him into a wallSaber MIGHT spare him but grant him her withering glare all day, everyday.Ayako just want to kick his ass into next weekSakura... would probably just forgive him... goddess
I set Shinji down and calmly yank the arrow out of my arm. "Alright. I might try and save you in the future, but since I can't see a way to do that right now, I'm gonna tie you up and leave you here.""Yeah. Avenger or Archer are probably coming here right now actually." He responds looking away. "I mean, he'd know I was distressed. He probably has no shits to give about me, but he wanted the Hostage for SOME reason.""What about the hostage? What's their deal?"He shrugs and hands me a length of rope from behind the tent. "I really don't know. I was basically told 'you are my personal bitch, you are on guard duty until further notice'."I finish tieing him pretty quickly, and Arc calls me to let me know that she got turned around somewhere, but she THINKS she knows where I am now.So I need to figure out what to do, before either Avenger or Gilgamesh arrive.[ ] Release the Hostage.[ ] Talk to the Hostage.[ ] Leave.[ ] Wait.
>>23234986You.. do realize that I also wrote that down, right? Did you even read the damn thing before you posted?So yes, I am aware that it might upset our allies but don`t forget that this is Shirou and its pretty much In-Character for him to offer that sack of shit help despite that.Shirou is kinda retarded like that, you realize.
>>23235031That depends on a combination of how much leeway we give Sakura and how much Shinji controls himself.
>>23235036...RELEASE THE HOSTAGEIf anything, it'll fuck up Gil's and Avenger's plan.Then grab that silly frakker and run.
>>23235036[X] Other: Trace Saber's current sheath (Invisible Air), Project it and hide in plan sight.Failing that,[X] Talk to the Hostage
>>23235036>[ ] Talk to the Hostage.Even if it is Altrouge, IC, shirou has no reason to NOT release and attempt to rescue the little girl.
>>23235036>Arc calls me to let me know that she got turned around somewhereNext time Shirou goes on an excursion, he is gonna pack a flare gun and a couple of flash and smoke grenades.>[x] Talk to the Hostage.Ask for a name, give reassurances, the works.
>>23235086>trace Invisible Air>tracing something that CANNOT BE SEEN
>>23235036>[ ] Talk to the Hostage.This is going to end up eating time we most likely don't have but better to get a clue who the fuck this is.
>>23235036>[ ] Talk to the Hostage.But BE QUICK about it. Avenger isn't a big deal, but we can't afford to fuck with Gilgamesh at the moment, so its 50/50 odds.
>>23235036Well we KNOW someone is on their way, and IC shirou saves innocents.I say we free her and bring her back to our place.We also need to deal with this shinji situation before anyone else shows up.
>>23235119Technically you see Invisible Air all the time, as it just makes what's inside it invisible. You see Invisible Air instead of Saber's sword, as it's magically condensed air that's meant to obscure what's inside it.It's a sheath, and therefore *possible* to trace and project. Be terribly funny if Shirou could.And I did offer an alternative action.
>>23235036>[ ] Talk to the Hostage.We should try to get her out, but we can't in good conscience release her until we verify that her name isn't Vampire McMurderKill.
>>23235036kill time waiting for Arc, if just avenger shows up we have one more good ass kicking to give him or so says Gil, if its Gil we can just talk while taking turns kicking Shinji
>>23235036[x] Save the Loli[x] Rule breaker the Rapist[x] Save the Loli[x] Tie off his injured arm with your belt so he doesn`t bleed out[x] Save the Loli[x] Ride of into the Sunset[x] With the Loli.
>>23235183Kotomine, what is wrong with your forheaddid your skull get caved inwhat
>>23235180The problem is that it's not actually a "sheath" at all, it's a bounded field and therefore a type of magecraft. It has no physical component and is probably ineligible for tracing.
>>23235182Gil was pretty adamant about murdering our ass last time. i wouldn't risk it.
>>23235208He's running at 60 km/s, his hair is being blasted back.
I feel like we're missing an important thing here.Gil is likely on his way. Arc is definitely on her way.I want to see them fight. So badly. Every Nasuverse thread I've witnessed on /a/ that gets derailed into powerlevels is SCREAMING at me to see this fight.
>[ ] Release the Hostage.>[ ] Leave.>[ ] Talk to the Hostage.All 3 in this order.
>>23235219It's listed as a sheath in the wiki, if I recall correctly, and it also states that it blunts an object's sharpness when it is equipped.It's worth a shot. Invisible Shirou sounds wonderfully broken. Shriou is, after all, a very big, and very foolish sword.If AC-Guy say's it can't be dne, it can't be done. No harm thinking outside the box.
>>23235254Isn't Invisible Air loud?
>>23235267Only when it's beign released
>>23235254>I have to shoot down every bad idea manually?
>>23235254>It's listed as a sheath in the wikiPlease do not use TMWiki for canonicity. It is... a tad incoherent in that respect. It's a "sheath" in that it covers her sword, but its form is that of magecraft. It is entirely without a physical component, even the air it draws in is simply from the environment and not generated by the noble phantasm itself.There's no conceivable way to draw it from the hill of swords, as it is not an item. It'd be like tracing God Hand, there's nothing to trace.
>>23235277You are now breathing manually.
Talk to hostage then free them. REally regardless of how bad an idea freeing them is we'll do it any way but let's talk first. Also you guys do realise we can't trace invisible air and it'd be retarded if we could right? It's a fucking spell. We can't trace spells.
>>23235277It saves on the 'was that a viable idea' and 'which idea was the setting breaking idea?' questions that have arisen. I figure any suggestion you completely ignore is either game breaking or completely idiotic.When you just list >what do? commands, I toss stuff out there to see what sticks. I'm not wholly familiar with the can and cant's of the Natsuverse. Who knows? I may yet add an idea to the 'so stupid it's brilliant' list.In the mean time, put another on my 'Why would you do that?' tab and carry on.
>>23235277If it's Nasuverse mechanics, I think the various anons could call out any ideas that could work/not work or too stupid to do.I'm okay with vetoes on actions like when majority decided that taking Rin's skirt from the laundry was a good idea to uncover its magic secrets. (Citing in-game relations with other characters that would make this action a really bad idea.)
>>23235431Shirou can trace physical objects, spells and runes are right out. Him hacking into the forest should've been impossible so things are a bit hinky in that respect but the previous is a good rule of thumb.
I walk up to the door and give it a gentle knock. "Hello? Can you hear me?""Hello?!" A girls voice returns. She seems excited and confused at the same time. "I can hear you!""Hi." I say with a smile. "Are you alright? Can you tell me your name? I'm gonna try and get you out of there.""I... I'm fine." She sounds like she's crying with relief. "My name's Satsuki. I don't... Where are we?"I walk around the shed, looking for an obvious opening of some kind, a door to kick open. "Outside Fuyuki. Do you remember how you got here?""... I got a letter from a- a friend." She says suddenly. "I uh... He asked me to come here, and when I got here weird man was waiting at the train station. He basically called himself 'the boogeyman' and grabbed me. After that, I don't remember anything but this... room.""That's it?""He implied that he lured me here, and laughed at his 'brilliant scheme'. Other than that...."[ ] Let her out.[ ] Leave.
>>23235487>Satsuki>Satsuki>Satsuki>Satsuki>SatsukiRAD ALART RAD ALART
>>23235487>Satsuki>Depletion GardenSON OF A BITCH FUCK SHIT COCK
>>23235487>SatsukiSACCHIN?!HELP HER RIGHT THE FUCK NOW!
>>23235487>My name's Satsuki.Answer, "Oh, so there's nobody in there"okay no but Shirou would let her out in a heartbeat. Leaving without saving her is totally out of the question.
>>23235520Oh of courseShit's going to end so badly, but we are morally obliged to let her out.hell, she could be working for Arc or somehting
>>23235487She just seems like a normal innocent girl!Tell her we're going to try and get her out of there.Probably best not to start screwing with the place until Arc's arrived. Still don't know exactly what those runes do, just what Shinji THINKS they do.
>>23235487>Sacchin.FOUND OUR VAMPIRE HERE.IC, we need to grab her and run.Ask Shinji if he still has his cell phone? We'll rescue him and thats a promise.
>>23235503>>23235513Uh, AC-Guy said that Satsuki didn't end up as a vamp in here. Heck, she never even encountered anything supernatural throughout the course of Tsukihime in this story.>>23235487That said...>[x] Let her out.Don't care if it's a trap, Shirou never leaves a damsel in distress.
>>23235487HELP HER LIKE THE FIST OF THE NORTH STAR
Its daylight right now, correct? So if she's a vamp, she should refuse to come out into the sunlight right?
>>23234927Ah yes, but we may be a demon in the shape of a man, rather than an actual man... similar to zouken being the worm-that-walks.
>>23235607Still a primate until you completely abandon your musculoskeletal system.
>>23235487So Avenger is planning on tapping into the grail and destroying it via depletion garden? No that's not quite right but I think we've found a key piece of his plot. Eh free the girl and watch as hell breaks loose within two or three days.
>>23235635Unless avenger planner for this.Fucker reads us like a book sometimes.
>>23235656Then we hit him with an exploding sword. Does that ever not work?
>Berserker didn't go to the grail when he died>runes all over Fuyuki>Satsuki hostage next to one of themOh mother of shit! Avenger's spread Satsuki's Reality Marble over all of Fuyuki to drain any defeated servants and use her as the grail!
I find the door. "Stand. Back."I hear a shuffling noise as I call Berserker's sword and slam the door open.There's a noise, and a sharp laugh as a man rushes me with claws extending from his hands.[DC 15 Combat check]
>>23235487HAHA! TIME FOR CREEPY STALKER VAMPIREGIRLFRIEND-ROUTE!
>>23235617Shirou can do that - His body is made of swords.Primate Murder: 0Athiests: 0God: 0Shirou :1>rip in piece legalize gay weed
Rolled 1>>23235698GODDAMINT YOU ARE NOT A CUTE GIRL AT ALL!FUCK NSQVSR
Rolled 14>>23235698Claws? This is new.EAT SWORD, CLAW MAN
Rolled 16>>23235698Dammit Kirei!
Rolled 18>>23235698"You sir, are no gentleman!"
>>23235713Anndd there goes my barely made it roll...
>>23235713wellI enjoyed having blood in my body
>>23235697Is this possible?
>>23235713>NSQVSRIt's "NRVNQSR", pronounced "Nero".
>>23235745If Sacchin is not supernatural, there's no reason she's tapped into her RM.Of course, Avenger might rip her internal world outside somehow anyway. But without being a vampire, is her life defined by "eternal loss without gain"? There's a lot of variables, but I'm going to think it's not related to Depletion Garden at the moment.
>>23235713EVERYTHING IS TERRIBLE
>>23235713Welp no more rolling for me
>>23235752Didn't Kirei state that NRVNQSR, Nero, the Crawling Chaos had been killed a few weeks ago?
>>232357791. believing Kirei so easily?2. he has 666 lives and is extremely hard to exterminate. Unless Gilgamesh did it while we weren't looking.Did Tsukihime happen at all in this universe? It's getting murky.
>>23235707Just because it can't arbitrarily Rocks Fall him doesn't mean it isn't still a giant prana-saturated dog with thousands of years experience killing things.
>>23235779He didThen again, faulty intel is always possible. How many times has man said they killed off something or someone only to be proven wrong?
>>23235802>Unless Gilgamesh did it while we weren't looking.Or Shiki did it.And yes, Tsukihime happened, but it's a weird amalgam of various routes.
>>23235802Allegedly it did, using some sort of odd fusion route. Either way, NRVNQSR is probably actually dead.
>All these ones
>>23235845Kneel before the random number god, and praise his name on high.
>>23235845The bike didn't follow us here, did it?
>>23235881It stalks us. We cannot escape it. Doors will fall before it's mighty treads. Stairs will not foil it, for it's previous master taught it to conquer them. It follows us. And it will see us to our grave.
I feel a crushing blow, and fly back against a tree.His dark form dances away, leaping between the shadows and pausing only long enough to sling Shinji over one shoulder as he runs.A girl steps out of the shed a moment later, looking dazed. "What? Who? Where am I? What's going on?""Hi. I THINK I saved you." I respond, slowly standing back up. My phone rings."Emiya.""Shirou?" Arcueid's voice answers. "What's going on? I felt something weird just now.""Well, good news and bad news. I found the Vampire, and I think he's going to eat Shinji. The Weird thing is I'm not sure which half of that is the upside.""Evil vampire getting fed is always bad." She responds. "Any idea which way he went?"".... West I think. Towards the city."She tells me she's going after it. "By the way, there was a girl locked in there. What should I do about that?""Does she have glowing red eyes? Fangs? An evil aura? Visibly flinching away from sunlight?"".... No. She looks totally normal." I respond, looking at the dazed girl."Well then take her home and add her to your collection or something. Make sure her head's down until I've dealt with the Vampire."I look back at her as the line disconnects. She's looking at me, confused and curious. She's clearly dazed by her experience, but I'm not seeing anything like bite-marks.>Actions?
Rolled 2>>23235870Thats far from enough.You need to offer his randomness your 1d3 born child.
>>23235929>we dont see any marksThe answer to his shock addled mind is obvious.Strip search sacchin
>>23235929Well, I guess we'll have to bring her home.
>>23235929"Well, uh... We should probably leave before Gilgamesh of Uruk shows up and starts shooting magic swords at us. Probably leave quite quickly. Do you need carried?"
>>23235932>1d3>Not 1d5Do you even tempt Fate?>>23235929Try to check the girl for invasive / hidden tracking magic?
>>23235929Search for any marks like the one Shinji had.
>>23235929Start with introductions. End it with asking if she needs psychiatric help.
>>23235929Listen to Arc's advice. I mean sure, she thinks sharing the love of her immortal life with a French assassin with an unhealthy curry fixation, a cosplay fetish (she made that habit-lookin' thing herself) and a penchant for back door fun is normal, but hey.
>>23235929There is only one solution: COOK FOR HER!Make sure she's ok to walk and head back to the house. Let Rin take care of the requisite strip-search, trying to poke around her squishy bits looking for an evil magic tattoo would probably just freak her out at this point.
>>23235968I'm pretty sure they know where to find us if they need to.
Oh FUCK. Guys, we just rescued Satsuki from being locked in a shed. She's gonna want us now too.
>>23236028Not if Rin and her memory wipe magic have something to say about that.
>>23236012>putting Tohsaka "I didn't even know I LIKED girls!" Rin in charge of strip-searching SacchinThat cannot end well. Let Taiga do it.
>>23236028Probably a first-come, first-serve sort of thing.
Guys you do realise we're never going to be allowed to go out alone again now right? Everytime we've done so we've brought someone back with us. Rider is either going to shake her head at us or bust her gut.
>>23236068She's talented, she can do both simultaneously.Also, fuck, I have to like follow AC-Guy or something because I keep coming to these late.
>>23236050Oh like we weren't trying to build Rin a harem anyway.
>>23236068Cue Team Purple + Rin staging an intervention to cure us of our "bringing cute things home with us" addiction.
>>23236089Get Issei to back us up that there is nothing strange about our actions, after all he wouldn't do anything untoward to any women in his house right? Or if it's that much of a problem we could bunk with Issei.
>>23236012Shirou unsure about situation. Returning to default programming: Cook.
>>23236068>>23236089in before kaleidoscope shenanigans bring home a Shirouko
>>23235929>"Well then take her home and add her to your collection or something."You heard the lady.[x] Bring her home [x] Try not to break out into treats when you see the "He brought another one in... "- Expressions of the other members of your harem
>>23236068She'll laugh, and possibly tease us/offer is joking "advice". All Rider-class Servants have a Broness Skill ranked A+.Poor Waiver.
>>23236122Zeltretch fucking WOULD, too. Just to screw with us.
>>23236118>implying Issei and Rin wouldn't wind up hatefucking each other's brains out if we dropped them in the wilderness of Hokkaido with only one sleeping bag and no means of navigation
>>23236149He'd then give her to Arc...
>I go to switch computers, and I come back to this.>Just... what the Christ, guys.>I need to go deal with something real quick, and then I'll get started on the next part.
>>23236227You think this is bad? A while ago the Harry Potter quest thread temporarily turned into "penis general". Yeah.
>>23236227>Implying you're surprised
>>23236227I think we're generally favouring these and the rest is mostly just random bullshit.>>23235961>>23235968
>>23236227Remember that time we tried to turn shirou into rape bait?Yea.
>>23236328What about the time we tried to seduce Assassin?
Search her for any marks, and GTFO before Gilgamesh composes an epic with your ass.
>>23236272We should probably save the mark-searching until we aren't in what is still most definitely a danger zone. Its not like Avenger doesn't know where our house is, so it can't hurt waiting until we get home and are in a more relaxed environment before we ask her to strip so we can search her for magic evil tattoos.
>>23236374..Oh god, I just thought of a horrible dice 1 scenario involving Shirou, Gilgamesh, and the chains of Enkidu.Yeah, nuts to this, I'm too drunk and tired 'fer all this. I'm heading to bed. Try not to get us killed horribly.
I take her hand. "Listen, I know you're feeling out of it, but where we are right now isn't safe.""Eh? A-alright." She responds after a moment's hesitation. I lead her out of the forest and keep her from tripping a couple of times on the way out. When we reach the edge she removes her hand from mine, but continues to follow.Soon I arrive back home to see a concerned Rin waiting for me. Sakura and Rider are waiting with her, and looking rather.... distracted. Sakura blushes heavily when she spots me, and Rin looks at me with a mixture of relief and shame. And then their eyes turn to my companion."Dear lord Shirou, you brought home another one?" Rider asks with a measure of sarcasm under her feigned shock."What was I supposed to do, leave her to get eaten by vampires?"Rider smiles slightly, while Rin and Sakura dance their eyes between the two of us. "So is she staying here then, Sempai?" Sakura finally asks."Not long hopefully." Satsuki answers. "I was hoping to go home.""... That would be best." Rin responds, rather diplomatically. "It's not exactly safe around town right now."Sakura shuffles into the kitchen to begin cooking lunch, while Rider and Rin talk in hushed tones.Satsuki merely sits at the table, as though content to wait the situation out.>Actions?
>>23236644Rin needs to check her out.Avenger wouldn't just hold her hostage for no reason. First, make sure she isn't strapped with any kind of magical time-bomb. Second, figure out why the fuck Avenger saw fit to hold her hostage.
>>23236644Talkfind out as much as possible about the who where when what why of what she's been through lately. See if we can piece anything together.
>>23236673>Avenger wouldn't just hold her hostage for no reason. First, make sure she isn't strapped with any kind of magical time-bomb. Second, figure out why the fuck Avenger saw fit to hold her hostage.This. Let's scan her up and then sent her on her way.
>>23236644I wonder the reason why all the girls are distracted is because they are actually giving the MANA TRANSFER serious thought. anyway.>[x]Dust our new guest down for magic stuff.
>>23236644>"It's not exactly safe around town right now.""Yeah. A vampire running around town right this instant would do that."Inform the group what happened, remind them that Shinji might get fang-banged, ask Satsuki for details regarding her abduction, and have Rin scan her for magic tracers. Also, redirect those familiars to tail Arc.Gods, it's only lunchtime?
>>23236789>Shinji might get fang-bangedUsing these words, pleasebecause that's more than worth the nasty looks
>>23236644COOK.Ask Rin to check her over.
>>23236644> Sakura and Rider are waiting with her, and looking rather.... distracted. Sakura blushes heavily when she spots me, and Rin looks at me with a mixture of relief and shame.Waaaaait a minute. Something fishy is going on here. Is this finally it? Did they loose to their hormones and carnal urges and these are supposed to be the first warning signs that we are going to get buried under 40lbs worth of rape tonight? Will we be raped repeatedly by 4 beautiful females at the same time on their glorious quest for descartes?
>>23236833Calling it now. We've got enough points with the girls that we've activated a secret descartes-meter, and every day we don't give them the dick their effectiveness will degrade.
>>23236833>>23236851Well we found that Sakura is not the grail, but does that mean she has still got those 'alterations?'
"So, Satsuki. Can you tell me what the last thing you remember is?" I ask, sitting down across from her."I.... I remember about a month ago I met a man who was passing through my town. He told me he was a friend of Shiki? Or his girlfriend..." She trails off for a moment, voice sad. "I remember... staying with him? He got angry about something. Something he was looking for was taken away, or he missed an opportunity. Then a couple weeks ago he wanted to go somewhere else because he said magic was acting weird. He wanted me to go with for some reason.... and then all I remember was that shed."Rin stares at her for a moment, eyes unfocused. "I think she was charmed somehow. the Vampire probably had mystic eyes to confuse her or something.""But why would a vampire keep her around for that long? Why not feed and move on?" Rider asks."She said she knows Shiki. He was probably intending to use her as a human shield if her friends showed up."It makes sense, and Satsuki looks between us. "Eh? Vampires? Shiki's doing what now?"Rin sighs and waves her hand, causing our guest to fall asleep at the table. At my request she also makes sure there's no tracking magic or anything on her.Rider moves her to an empty room, while I-[ ] Help Cook.[ ] Ask about ____.[ ] Other.
>>23236900>[x] Help Cook.and>[x] Ask about "Why are you all acting odd today, hm?"
>>23236900Cook.[x] Tell Rin about the purpose of the magic symbols around town[x] Ask how is souchirou-sensei and caster doingCooking doesn't need a mouth and that loafer is probably sitting at the table.
>>23236900>[x] Ask about ____.why Rin, Sakura and Rider are acting so strange. Did something happen while I was away? Also Sakura had a red face does she have fever?>IdontusuallygoShiroubutwhenIgoShirouIgofullShirou.jpg
>>23236900>[ ] Ask about ____.Shinji and ways we could free him.
>>23236900>[x] Tell Rin about the purpose of the magic symbols around town>[x]Help cook
>>23236948More importantly, is Saber in on it.
>>23236900>[X] Help Cook.>[X] "So why is everyone acting weird? Is there a cold going around or something?
>>23236900>[x] Ask about ____."What does Avenger need Ilya, the Einzbern knowledge of the Grail, and a vampire for?"Also, archive?
>>23236900Ask about getting a group picture to troll future generations of magi with. Get everyone to sign it.
>>23237024That sounds like the start of a bad joke
Lacking something better to do, I step into the kitchen. Sakura gives me a mildly concerned look as I express my desire to help before listing some ingredients and turning away with a blush."Alright, did I miss something?" I ask, looking between the sisters. "Did something happen while I was gone? Is there a cold going around? Is that why Sakura's face is red?"They both look at me, and then each other before looking away. "Nothing you need to be worried about." Rin declares calmly, slight blush appearing on her face. Sakura nods frantically a few times, but otherwise doesn't respond. Rider walks in behind Rin and makes a gesture seemingly asking me to follow her.[ ] Follow.[ ] Continue cooking.
>>23237037>[ ] Follow.As soothing as cooking is, we are not a clueless Shirou.Our status as clever motherfucker demands knowledge.
>>23237037>[ ] Follow.
>>23237037>Rider>[x] Follow.>>23237035True that. Although only Avenger would probably find the punchline hilarious.
>>23237037Follow, Rider has yet to steer us wrong, that's worth remembering.
>>23237080Rider is a bro.A sexy, purple bro.
I sigh, setting aside my apron and follow.When we get around the corner, she turns to me although we don't stop walking. "You're wondering why they were acting so weird." Not a question, but i nod anyway. "When Rin was working on some sort of tracking spell for you, she accidentally discovered a new spell.""You mean the one where she mixed Saber's blood with mine?""Yes. I felt it through our connection. Apparently it allowed her a glimpse of what your kids would look like, assuming you had any." She smiles. "Then later I noticed her casting the same spell with her blood instead of Saber's."My mind grinds to a sudden halt. "What?""Oh, I don't think she's planning to tie you down and have her way with you or something. In fact i think she only cast the spell because she had nothing better to do at the time. When I realized what she was doing, I told Sakura and we went to speak with her.""... to stop her?""Actually, we made her do it again with us. Granted, I mostly threw my own blood in to make them squirm...." She smiles at me. "Sharks are getting restless, you've already let some blood in the water and they're watching you closely.""Thanks for phrasing that in the most terrifying way possible." I respond, which she lets out a small laugh in return."I happen to think watching you all squirm is hilarious. Back in my day, people were a lot more... open, about these things.""So what, we're all insanely prudish? Didn't you say something about believing in sex AFTER marriage?""That was mostly a joke. Though I certainly wouldn't object to getting a ring first." She then points to the shed we've arrived at in our walk. "But now the real question. That bike you've been working on. What do I need to do for or TO you to make it mine?"[ ] I was already planning on that.[ ] I thought Saber would like it....[ ] It needs to be fixed first.[ ] How open are you to the concept of 'sharing?'
>>23237080>>23237149......Is she going to dream-rape us?
>>23237172>[ ] How open are you to the concept of 'sharing?'Because this can totally be taken in the wrongest way possible.
>>23237172>[x] It needs to be fixed first.Well we have to assume it doesn't kill me first. [ ] How open are you to the concept of 'sharing?'Have saber ride the bike and you can ride saber.Lol
>>23237172>[ ] It needs to be fixed first.
>>23237172>[ ] I was already planning on that."I mean... you're RIDER! Who else would I give it to? "
>>23237172>[ ] How open are you to the concept of 'sharing?'Then >[ ] I was already planning on that.
>>23237172We will totally use that the next time to troll Rin."Hey, Rin, I´ve been wondering. You`re a magus first and formost and then a girl from what I´ve get just like Saber claims she`s firs and formost a warrior and women second.. so.. have you ever thought about having children?"This is going to be glorious.
Oh great, look what I found while tooking at the TypeMoon wikia>If Rider was on a motorcycle, she'd be a match against Grand Prix motorcycle former champion Wayne Gardner. If she rides on a bicycle, she’d accelerate endlessly until the bike itself broke down. “It would be nice if I could Mana Burst like Saber...” were her actual words. Thus, she yearns badly for a racing bike that can go even faster.
>>23237172>[ ] It needs to be fixed first.This is self-evident>[ ] How open are you to the concept of 'sharing?'And this is hilarious if we can imply something as a joke
>>23237277More like we get her impression on how open she is on sharing shirou with the rest of the sharks.
>>23237267[x] Make mental note: "Buy red bike bicycle for Rider".
>>23237267>or TO you"Rider, are you actually implying that i'd actually coerce you to do what I think you're implying for a bike? "
>>23237172>[x] How open are you to the concept of 'sharing?'Tandem riding? I'll allow it! As if that's the only sharing that's gonna go around.Also, archived.
>>23237267>"So.. uh.. your bike-thing... is this the same stuff as with witches and broomsticks?"
"Well I need to finish fixing it before we can decide ownership.""A lot of ships are already bought and paid for before they get anywhere near the harbor.""Not the point. I don't want to promise you a bike and then have the shed burn down and lose it or something." I respond with a sigh. "Especially since that already almost happened."She frowns slightly. "But IF-""Well if you keep pushing, I might make you share it. How would that make you feel? Saber riding the pretty new bike around town?""I'd get on with her and show her how to really make it scream." She hesitates. "Wait, was that a serious question, or you angling for a threesome?""It WAS a joke. Now I'm wondering why you only see those two possibilities." I respond, giving her a look."Well, despite accusations to the contrary I know you're not a eunuch or something due to the way your heartbeat changes whenever one of us gets too close to you. My best guess is that you've already picked your favorite and want to let the others down easy, or you're trying to see how many women you can either string along or seduce before the mounting sexual tension gets you killed in one way or another."I blink heavily. "That's what you're seeing?""That seems the most likely. I guess there's also the possibility that you're genuinely a nice guy and trying NOT to think with your dick, but...." She shrugs. "Besides, it's not like my answer would change anyway." she then turns, saying she wants to talk to Saber about 'Tandem Riding'.I, meanwhile, desperately hope that isn't a metaphor.>Actions? I think this is the last post from me tonight, so feel free to debate actions and speculate wildly. I'll either repost this, or pick up after, depending on how clear the choice is when I get back to it.
>>23237378Okay, we need to wait for a sitrep from ArcAnd then figure out what's going on with Satsuki.And then determine from that how to deal with the Gil/Avvie problem.
>>23237378Let's practice with Saber.We can't have SHINJI of all people hurting us in a fight, can't we? We neglected our training and this is what happened because of that.
>>23237462This is true and long over due.
>>23237445>>23237462Let's combine those too. While waiting for Arc to call, we can go train with Saber.
>>23237462Good call.We need to practice combat reinforcement too. Reinforcing our various bits under pressure.
>>23237487>Reinforcing our various bits under pressure.You did that on purpose.
>>23237378Poor Rider, she just doesn't fully grasp the magnitude of the problem.Rin also wants our dick, but will spontaneously combust before she admits it, and might go into Ultimate Catfight Deathmatch mode if she thinks anyone else is too close to getting it.As i see it thats really the main obstacle in between us and giving everyone the dick.
Question: Why do people think Gil is worth more than one servant in terms of prana? There's nothing anywhere, in the VN, material/trivia books, Manga, anime, or the fucking Wiki to suggest such is the case.i saw a couple of things referencing how he has a lot mo9re raw firepower than most Servants due to the way his Gate works, but not him being worth three servants to the grail.
>>23237523He is literally powered by the tears of orphans. I shit you not.
>>23237378>Ilya-Inform her of Avenger's plans for her.-Assign more bodyguards to her (Saber, Sella and Leysritt)>Sakura-Get some answers behind those dreams. Initiate cancelled 'Inception' plan on her.-Trauma inducing as it may, ask about any other plans Zouken may have that doesn't involve Shinji or Sakura.>Caster-Get Saber un-contracted from her.-Inquire about Item Crafting and scrying.>Saber-Reestablish contract with her, or transfer to another Master.-Finding Avalon and getting it back to her.>Lancer-Who is your Master already?That's all I got.
>>23237675>-Get some answers behind those dreams. Initiate cancelled 'Inception' plan on her.I wonder if we could try the tree trick on her. It would fit with out current "whatever the fuck works" methodology.Like a vulcan mind-meld, but with less pretentious tosser.
>>23237708Sure.>Have Sakura create a small boundary field in a room (if her lessons have progressed that far.)>Enter trance like state, engage structural analysis.>Sleep.Hopefully, we only roll for SAN loss if the dreams take us to her past.>>23237675Additionally, tell the rest of the group not to wake us if experiencing dreams. We are going to get full, uninterrupted answers from that dream wizard.
>>23237523...It's in the novel that Gil is horrendously more powerful then a servant has any right to be. They compare him to two or three servants. Same with Berserker, Herc would've curbstomped a 'normal war' on his own.
>>23237889It's imo pretty retarded that Servant powerlevels aren't balanced. (I don't mean that in the "assassin can tank excalibur" way, but in an actual balance way)Does the summoning maybe factor in the strength of the masters?Then again, Shirou has a powerful Saber while being servant level himself...
>>23237889Yeah, he has like five times the firepower due to how the gate works.He can't have five times the Prana. The Archer 'class' was made before him, and he was just the hero chosen to fill it. It is literally impossible, by the basic laws of the fucking game universe, for him to be 'worth' more.
>>23237951It was never meant to be balanced. If shirou wasn't a freak of nature thanks to having one of THE most powerful noble phantasms implanted into him he'dve been a shite master.
>>23237951Well, thing is, you have to remember. The rules of the Grail war were set up by three families who were trying as hard as they possibly could to make sure that THEIR class was a guaranteed win.Fair contests were not high on the design goal list.
>>23237953Have you taken extra materials into account? Because that's bascially Nasu fucking with the rules until he's happy with them.On anohter note you due realise that some classes are more mana intensive then others right?
>>23237951Servant stats are, in large part, informed by master, yeah. There are minimums associated with certain classes though.If you look up Rider on Type Moon wiki you can see her different statlines with Shinji and Sakura as masters.
>>23238006In terms of needing more mana from their masters? Yes. some are more draining.In terms of how much power the vessel for the servant, the only relevant factor in the entire process as far as their worth to the grail system, no. By their very nature, they would have to be very similar.If the Grail was to fulfill it's function as either a wish granting machine or a third magic ritual to reach the root, it would require a fairly consistent investment of prana into each of the classes to make sure the system actually worked.Saying Gil logically has more Prana in his Vessel because he has a weird ability to circumvent the normal 'NP powerlevel' thing, is like saying that a person who's more active and energetic logically has multiple hearts.I can kinda see where you MIGHT make that connection, but you're debating causation when two factors only superficially related aren't even 100% connected.
>>23238060Right here's the thing. Gil has a flesh and blood body yes? Now he's been stockpiling mana from the orphans and his own natural prana generation (which he can probably augment via 'lolgate') for years. This means he's not been lossing energy due to keeping his form only gaining excess energy. Now what part of that screams 'normal' to you?
>>23238085He didn't get a full true incarnation to my knowledge, just a physical form. So his existence was 'cheaper' but not 'free' prana wise.Besides that, without the grail he would need extra juice from somewhere, why not orphans?And furthermore, you're ignoring a critical fact here: Things are beyond fucked up from the canon perspective, to the point where I think we will actually get punished for Metagaming.Remember: Kirei thought Gil was dead, Berserker wasn't Herc, Lancer's real master might be alive, and we're quite possibly a demon. ASSUMING your interpretation is 100% correct by canon, which we have no real hard evidence for, but I'm going to just give this one to you: what in the flying fuck impact does that have on Fate/Again?
>>23236900Hang on a fucking minute here.>"I.... I remember about a month ago I met a man who was passing through my town. He told me he was a friend of Shiki? Or his girlfriend..." She trails off for a moment, voice sad. "I remember... staying with him? He got angry about something. Something he was looking for was taken away, or he missed an opportunity. Then a couple weeks ago he wanted to go somewhere else because he said magic was acting weird. He wanted me to go with for some reason.... and then all I remember was that shed."Know who's prone to suddenly showing up and screwing with people, is a friend of Shiki's girlfriend, and would have an interest in magic going weird?Fucking Zeltretch.
>>23238186I have no idea.
>>23238252Zeltretch: Sorcerer, meddler, pedo
>>23238252>>23238306If that was Zel, he just punched us in the face, grabbed Shinji, and ran away to feed.Not thinking it was him.
>>23238331Eh. Avenger could have lifted her when Zeltretch got to Fuuyuki and started screwing around here. He's not the most detail oriented of dead apostles.We also know that he enjoys training students, in a manner that usually renders them either dead or horribly traumatized.We ALSO know that Sacchin is filled with all sorts of magic potential. She got a Reality Marble inside six months of becoming a vampire. She strikes me as potentially capturing his interest.
>>23238331Or broserker for some reason?
>>23237951>Game Balance>in a game designed by MagesHa ha! Oh, wow...>>23237989Pretty much this. Magi are fucking min-maxing shitstains, and wouldn't give a shit about concepts of fair play. Monte Cook confirmed for Nasuverse magus?>>23238252This concerned me. Why someone would look for friends of Shiki, specifically. And why brainwash Sacchin. She's a friend of Shiki's, sure. But keeping her around for months on end? What use would she have, given her current state of abilities.The only thing she has going for her are 9001 magic circuits, which don't amount to beans unless utilized.I'm thinking Sacchin needs to be checked THOROUGHLY. She's probably been a mage's guinea pig for these months, and lord know what was done to her.I doubt it was Zelrecht, though. Zel is much too aloof to be concerned about one world's affairs. He's like The Doctor from Doctor Who, except slightly more stand-offish about saving worlds. Still, he is on the Chaotic Good side of Chaotic Neutral, not being above dicking with folks to see if they can learn valuable life lessons, but not "IT'S DOCTOR MOREAU TIME!" EITHER.I'd bet dollars to donuts that whoever kidnapped Sacchin also stole the Grail orphans from Kirei, long ago. I'm guessing that this guy is out mystery faction.>>23237675Attend to ALMOST ALL of these things. I think they'll be useful, help us get answers, etcI just can't agree with un-contracting Saber. I don't think Shirou can support her right now, so why break a contract with the one person who could fuel her best right now. Maybe Illya or Sacchin becomes a Master (hey, Sacchin's 9001 magic circuits could do wonders!) but I'd rather not play Musical Servants unless we're more clearly established What The Fuck Is Going On.