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>>23942591
"What happened with your adrenaline production anyway?" you ask.

"I got too jumpy, had a hard time sleeping, my heart was always beating too fast," he says. "Started straining some of my internal organs, especially the glands themselves. We ended up having to cut them out and regrow them with magic. It was a foolish, sloppy job that helped teach me a thankfully nonlethal lesson."

"Wow, that's fucked up," you say. "Should I get, like, some lab rats or something and test things on them first?"

"That's actually a great thing to do," he says. "You could also test it on your enemies if you're okay with the fact that it could seriously hurt them. I would absolutely advocate planning and prepping each application well in advance of actually using it on yourself."

What now?
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>>23946851
Aaand Dane just used my suggestion >>23946870 from last thread. How amusing.
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>>23946851
Let's ask about things that would accelerate mental processes and healing.
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>>23946894
This and things that would help us with needing to sleep less.
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>>23946851

see if he can suggest any "safe" attempts for ourselves once we finish animal testing.

We were thinking of trying to accelerate the growth of hair on our head as a trial to see if we understand it properly.
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Rolled 37

>>23946851
Ask if there's a way to set up a spell that will only temporarily increase adrenaline production and then immediately return it to normal for combat situations
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>>23946851
so what about grafting parts could this be used to add a second set of arms? to something ? how much harder is it to do on something else?
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http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Scholomance
The previous thread is now archived. Remember to vote it up.
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>>23946921
>grafting on a second set of arms

I'd rather Max was able to go out in public, so let's not make her look like a monster.
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>>23946916
this extensive Animal testing have dad pick us a few dozen lab rats next time he goes out.
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>>23946896
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>>23946851
See if we can safely up regulate healing, muscle growth (nothing ridiculous, just a slightly greater stress-induced growth response), and the clearing of toxins from our system. Probably shouldn't start messing with our nervous system from the get go.
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>>23946932
not having a 4 armed winged monkey with a copy of broken frencheys mind as our default attack pet.
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>>23946956
I like where your headed with Pierre, but I think you need to go further toward demonic in form and function.
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>>23946851
"Well beta-endorphins make great painkillers, minimal side-effects, could be useful at times.

Hormones are a really delicate balance, it seems a lot easier to use this to fuck someone else up than to use it on yourself as it's so easy to throw your system out of alignment.

Like the thyroid, increasing Thyroxine production by a bit would be beneficial though I'd have to eat more, but too much would kill me.

What hormones have you experimented with and gotten good results from?"

>>23946939
Increasing somatropin/Growth Hormone might work for that, though we'd have to be careful as too much is also bad, we don't want carpal tunnel or acromegaly.
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>>23946986
Horns, red skin, tail. Maybe some hooves. Black sclera.
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>>23946921
That's kinda silly. First, we'd look really fucking weird. Second the human body is not designed for extra arms, we'd have to rework a lot of the skeletal and muscular structure in order to make it work, we can't even consider it as a possibility at our current level.

>>23947003
>>23946986
>>23946956
That's silly. I would like to veto this train of action.
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>>23946986
give it horns?
make him Goro but with huge bat wings?
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"Could I safely adjust my hormone levels and stuff to allow for faster hair growth and healing and stuff?" you ask.

"The healing would be better handled by augmenting yourself," he says seriously. "As for faster hair growth, the hormones that govern that also affect a lot of other parts of the body too. You'll be able to just hyper-charge the hair follicles someday, but not with the methods I've taught you. This stuff strictly pertains to hormones, glands, and the endocrine system. You're a long way from punching someone into a cat."

"Huh, okay," you say, thinking. "Do you have any suggestions, then? Tweaks I could try on myself or lab rats?"

"Well, you're tutoring that Dextra Domini member, right?" he asks. You look surprised and he continues. "I have a class near the library and very good hearing. I get the idea that you're trying to sabotage him somehow. You could, perhaps, use rats to figure out how to make him diabetic or make his testes produce estrogen instead of testosterone. Something to distract or debilitate him slowly over time. As for yourself? You should probably get some bloodwork done before you go trying to figure out what you want changed with your hormone levels. Anything truly dramatic, though, is usually best handled with augmentations."

What now?
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>>23947003
Well, >>23947013 is right so I'll let it drop. That said I was thinking of several of the demonic characters from Berserk at the time.
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>>23947067
>or make his testes produce estrogen instead of testosterone
Operation Sissification endorsed by Dane.

It's time. Ask how one might go about that.
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>>23947067
> You could, perhaps, use rats to figure out how to make him diabetic or make his testes produce estrogen instead of testosterone. Something to distract or debilitate him slowly over time.

>make his testes produce estrogen instead of testosterone.

Gentlemen, I believe we have a plan.
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>>23947067
ask about that estrogen thing
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>>23947067
We fuckin' with his nuts. Oh dayum Liz is gonna love this.
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>>23947067
"It seems like this is much better suited towards altering others due to how delicate your personal balance is and how easy it is for you to mess everything up.

Would upping production of Oxytocin or some other bonding/love hormone work like I think it would work? Upping the production of it when I'm tutoring him to make him trust me, like me more, bond to me.

By the by, how would this Estrogen thing work anyways?"
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>>23947067
>whelp, Dane just threw us one hell of a bone
Seconding the obvious (estrogen). Ask him if the blood work could be done within Lotus, I don't want Max's blood samples floating around out there.
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>>23947067
>make his testes produce estrogen instead of testosterone
Let's ask for clarification on this one. Because I doubt Max would know what that actually does even though many of us probably do.
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>>23947091
>>23947096
>>23947115

It's funny because femcock told us to choose this option last thread but no one picked up on it.
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>>23947115
With the exception of the first sentence, which Dane already told us, this post and it's phrasing works for me.
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>>23947159
this
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>>23947151
It would make him grow tits. Which might make detra think he's an incubus blooded female
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>make his testes produce estrogen instead of testosterone

I still want to convince him to join us without heavy mindrape. And although in KNOW that is an almost non-existent chance, if we can get him to agree to THIS...
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>>23946851
what about something like Melatonin production. Somehow I doubt most first years have a defense against that.
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>>23947166
Would also change fat distribution all over, decrease erectile function, and some other things. But I don't think Max knows that without being told.

Probably doesn't know what Oxytocin is either.
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This could also be a good chance to talk about aura detection and hiding from it.
The only reason Pierre is still in the dark is because he's a terrible Dextra.

He should have joined the Four Pillars, but noooo. Had to be all Smitey McSmiterson.
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>>23947067
How would I even do that with out him noticing?
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>>23947220
Do it when he tries to hug us again. He'll just think it's blue balls.
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>>23947192
Dear anon, we just skipped a grade in our training (we should be seriously suspicious about this, we know how much preparation Dane likes putting into his plans, so I think this is more of him cultivating a resource than paying back a debt) I doubt many first years have any defenses against living alchemy. Also, it's October, we've been in school two months.
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How common or difficult is it for first-years to change affiliations? Could we convince our soon-to-be next girlfriend to check out the Pillars?
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>>23947248
>so I think this is more of him cultivating a resource than paying back a debt
No reason it can't be both.

But it occurs to me, we're only a trial member (or whatever the term is). Is Dane violating the Society rule against teaching secrets to a non-member?
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>>23947266
We're still in the Lotus sanctum so if he is he's got one big as fuck sack for doing it right in front of Carl.
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>>23947266
Since he's teaching us in the sanctum, with Carl nearby, and Carl probably has supersenses so finely tuned that he can hear every single conversation in here, I assume it's not a problem.
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"Tell me more about the estrogen thing," you say.

"Well, it would basically have the same effect as someone on a hormone replacement regimen," he says. "Make him more physically feminine, maybe grow breast tissue, loss of muscle mass, that kind of thing. He's only 16, so there's still some growing left to do, but much of his skeletal structure is likely already in place, so that might require changing on your part if you want to go further with it, unless he's unusually large for how developed he is. I figured that this might be more your style when it comes to eliminating competition."

"Any suggestions on how to pull this off?" you ask. "I mean, I doubt this is something that I can just do in an instant, right?"

"Find a way to disguise it as something else," he suggests. "Pick foci that work for the disguise spell too. Then, when there's no apparent effect, pretend that it was a failure on your part, rather than a success at something else. That only works if he's both gullible and under your thumb, though. You could always try doing it during class if you think you can get away with it. Some teachers don't consider things a violation of the rules as long as the other student isn't, strictly speaking, harmed. I'm not sure about your teacher."

What now?
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>>23947266
A better question, do we also get kicked out if we're caught or do we just have to pass the inevitable initiation test (which could be as easy as Carl saying we're in...yeah, too easy)?
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>>23947277
>>23947274
I picture carl looking like bob ross
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>>23947298
"Petrov hasn't seemed to give a fuck about me spending entire classes fiddling with people's emotions using enchantment. Almost seems like he thinks you deserve it if you can't block it. Did you have him your first year?"
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>>23947298
So, we do a mock attempt to breach his wards, trigger a preplanted sensation of a successful defense, and while we have a and against his head swap his hormone production. Thought?
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>>23947303

femcock has him more like Jeff Bridge's in the Tron remake.
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>>23947298
Ask him what he thinks of Petrov.
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>>23947340
Which is the only way I can picture him now...
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>>23947333
That could work. Pierre is smug enough that he'd probably buy it if we told him he fended off our attempt. Make it feel like a near thing though, otherwise he might think he's done and stop his lessons.
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>>23947340
Now he looks like jeff bridges with bob ross' hair and I can't get that out of my mind. that insidious fro simply will not leave
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>>23947333
We don't have wards up all the time. I very much doubt Pierre does.
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>get him to like us
>get him to REALLY like us
>tell him a 'secret' that we like feminine looking guys, act sorta embarrassed about it

If he starts trying to get our attention by dolling up a tiny bit, act interested in spending more time with him and start using the HRT spell.
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>>23947347
I kind of had the impression that this is the first time Petrov has been teaching, might be good to know though. Probably a better question for another time.
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>>23947340
Huh, first I heard about that, but it is pretty much exactly how I imagined him anyway.
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>>23947298
>I figured that this might be more your style
How closely is he watching us? That would be something to find out. I don't think he's an enemy but I don't like that he knows so much we don't know he knows. See if we can find out more.

>>23947303
I picture Carl as just some totally ordinary looking dude.
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>>23947374
That's why we do it in lesson, tell him to raise his wards so we can test them.
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>>23947298
"He's kind of gullible, I can take care of it. I don't think Petrov would really mind, but I'd rather not risk it unless you know for a fact that Petrov lets people get away with that sort of thing."

Chat a bit more, ask about using Oxytocin or Vasopressin to change people's emotions and who they're bonded to.
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>>23947376
Considering how hardcore religious Pierre is, he'd probably tell us that men acting girly is an abomination against god, who hates the gays.
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>>23947298
"Right, but then how long til I can actually give him a vagina?"
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>>23947405
I think that's going to be a far far more advanced application of living alchemy.
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>>23947405
>"Right, but then how long til I can actually give him a vagina?"
Ewwww! What are you, some kind of weirdo?
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>>23947374
Meant as a test of strength for the wards we are teaching him. We might need some description of our generic lesson plan with Pierre from last week to pull it off believably though.
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>>23947405
I am contractually obligated to vote against asking Dane this, in case too many morons chime in for it.
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>>23947298
also what about plants,?can we how would you make stronger more nutritious plants?
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>>23947405
Let's not tet Dane's patience a second time.
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>>23947405
Let's not ask that. We'll come to that later if necessary.
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>>23947459
>>23947451
>>23947443


He probably already knows.
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>>23947405
>giving Pierre a vagina
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>>23947449
Yes, but we'd have to start studying plant based living alchemy first, animals are not a compatible model I'm guessing.

I'm surprised Domino hasn't tried hormonal regulation of Apple, if it's doable.
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>>23947405
He already has a mouth and an asshole.
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>>23947443
Good point.

>>23947405
FemCOCK do not take this joke suggestion. I am voting against it.
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>>23947405

Shut up you cumguzzling fuckwad, that's just the ridiculously stupid shit that's going to fuck us metaphorically up the ass with a flaming horsecock of doom.

So, No.
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>>23947479
Sure, but after last thread, it's in our best interest to loudly shoot down stupid stuff and jokes.
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>>23947480
You got a chuckle anon.
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>>23947405
>Ewwww! What are you, some kind of weirdo?

Voting no
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"Do you know anything about what archmage Petrov does and doesn't allow?" you ask.

"Nothing that you don't," he says. "I have good enough senses to listen in on your class while I'm in class. That's up to your own judgement."

What now?
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>>23947298

"Dane, I'm really only tutoring him because he's Dextra and.... well, look, can you keep this to yourself? I have unusual heritage in my family. I'm.... well I was listening to you when you said to be paranoid. I think he could be a threat to me."
"But at the same time, I think he's losing faith in his society and what they ACTUALLY do."
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>>23947538
He met us when we were talking loudly about demon jizz.
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>>23947531
Slowpoke fix:
Please consider this for your course of action.
>>23947538

Does dane know about our incubi blood? If not, he may have some upperclass advice for dealing with DD.

I'm also for turning the conversation non-serious and just hanging out - he could probably use some destressing after the fight.
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>>23947538
He's not losing faith in his society. He's losing faith in the fact that they are more about stealthy assassination of demons rather than holy smiting.

He's still a monster.
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>>23947531
"I think the library might be a safer option. I'll just have to give the librarian another bribe to be sure, but she seems to like me well enough."
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>>23947538
He already knows about our heritage, at least to a degree, no reason to say this. He wanted to reference our aura.

>>23947531
Ask him a bit more about the gland stuff, ask how he's used it on himself and others and what hormones he's had successes with.

We don't really have the time to do any Self-Augments right now as we have a busy evening ahead of us.
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>>23947568
Yeah, so what the ACTUALLY do. Nobody ever said he's losing faith in the basic notion of killing demons.
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I still think it's hilarious that big ole paranoid badass Dane likes giving his enemies diabeetus.
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>>23947568
Yet.

We can still drive a wedge into him, we can teach him that demons are people too.
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Living alchemy doesn't need pysical contact with the subject's body like the other schools, or do I need to touch him? Can it be indirect, like throught a glove, or rndom objects like a pole or even a chair?

Something I've been wondering.
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>>23947538
He knows we have demonic heritage (and a cock) from that scholomance hostel/meeting ground. He also strongly supports the concept of removing potential future enemies long before they become actual threats, so we really don't have to justify any of this to him. That just makes us look weak and in need of approval. So let's just move on to the practical lesson in how to mess with Pierre, keeping in mind the fact that we have to get ready for Paris later. Stick to the time table for heading home.
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>>23947598
>>23947627
How?

His issue with the Dextra is that they aren't riding around on white horses trampling demonbabies underfoot while singing hymns at the top of their voices.

I really don't understand where this idea came from that Pierre is a great guy who's just a little confused.
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>>23947531
Ask about the librarian. would she need more bribes or is doing shit to people in or around the library just suicidal
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"Does living alchemy require physical contact?" you ask.

"Nope," he says. "But you don't really know for sure whether or not you succeeded without the physical contact. They could resist the spell and you wouldn't immediately know."

What now?
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>>23947598

He's not losing fith, he's just annoyed at HOW the DD work. And that can be easily rectified or ignored, as long as he does his job.
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>>23947665
So I have to grab his balls. Awesome.
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>>23947628
Not a problem in Pierre's case, since he's constantly holding our hand during mind ward lessons.
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>>23947649
Because he thinks demons are evil.

He just wants to be the guy who smites evil.
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>>23947665

I won an update! Yay~

So, physical contact allows us to instantly know if the alchemy spell worked, huh?
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>>23947649

He's not a great guy. We're gonna turn him.

With our dick.
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Rolled 13

>>23947665
"So am I going to have to grab his balls or something to find out if it worked or will I know instinctively just by touching his arm?"
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>>23947649
>I really don't understand where this idea came from that Pierre is a great guy who's just a little confused.

Small things. Being bad at what his society does. having a crush on max. Pissing off everyone else in his society/class so that we're his only alternative to learn stuff he needs to do well in his society.

The whole 'lets not immediately break pierre' thing is because we want to see if we can make him willingly join our side.

He's not a good person. But I think he's not as instantly evil as his detractors paint him to be. Everyone in this quest is fully fleshed out and a living npc, with reasons for doing what they do - we just don't know enough about him to make a call either way.
Yet.
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>>23947665
When you say physical contact... The specific body part or could I just grab his hand.

Because it get a bit odd jamming my hand down his pants in the middle of class or the library.
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>>23947665
Cool. Who else is here right now? We might want to join in on the group meditation thing since we're here.

When are we leaving to do Paris stuff?
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>>23947705
I'm sure he'll be really convinced how nice we are when he discovers that we're in a relationship with Liz and were just using his crush on us to manipulate him.
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>>23947689
So far, all demons and part-demons we've encountered have been pretty evil except maybe Sam, and we don't know what he gets up to in his spare time.
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>>23947753
Smuggling.
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>>23947665
Is it still noonish? If so I think he did offer to help with the practical portion, or was that entirely covered by the lesson? I had thought that at our level we would need a custom spell instead of casting by the seat of our pants.
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>>23947689
But you know, I don't want to turn this into another shitty morality argument.

But from a traditional viewpoint, Max would come across as kind of evil. We really aren't the best person to convince him.
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>>23947753
Point out one person who isn't evil in some way in this quest.
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>>23947786
Gaviscon
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>>23947753
I don't know. I thought the tengu was pretty honorable. Also, I get the impression most of the pure humans in the scholomance aren't all that nice people.
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>>23947705
>The whole 'lets not immediately break pierre' thing is because we want to see if we can make him willingly join our side.
No, it was because doing so would entail showing our hand to DD and pissing them off, making it unwise in addition to being wasteful.

>>23947768
Well that's his job, I was thinking more like what he does for fun. Probably nothing comparable to mindraping good catholic girls, but still.

>>23947786
Sanjay.
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>>23947786
Seconding this.
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>>23947799
Carl seems pretty non-evil.
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>>23947814
What do you think he had to do to get to archmage that he now regrets so much?
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>>23947786
Selene.
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>>23947786
Max's mom.
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>>23947814
Carl implied he did some pretty cutthroat things to make it to being an Archmage, though.
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>>23947821
>he regrets so much
Right, non-evil.
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This conversation is making me think we need to boost our senses more.
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>>23947822
Wait for it.
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>>23947830
It sounded like he wished he didn't have to do it, not that he wouldn't do it again. Dunno how that fits into your morality.

>>23947842
Yes, very much so.
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>>23947821
I hope it was more cat punches.

Max should get a pet cat, and we can name it Fine Too.
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>>23947827
One, she isn't part of the scholomance. Two, outside the opening flashback we've never seen her on screen.
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>>23947861
Joke or not, I support this some time in the future.

>Captcha: my ongbro
I guess you're my ongbro now, anon.
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>>23947861
He had to do many things before he had the ability to cat-punch people...
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Our relationship with Pierre is going to resemble the artwork of Dimitrys, isn't it?
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"So, do I have to grab his balls or something?" you ask.

"Any direct skin contact should do," says Dane. "However, if he has any... tingling while it happens, that could explain it."

What now?
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>>23947911
Probably, I assume Liz is bringing her dick to the party.
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I don't think cat-punching is something that happens very often. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to swing a cat (that you punched) without hitting other cats (that you also punched).
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>>23947936
We should ask for some recommendations on subtlety foci.

Also will bat testicles and ovaries work for estro-testi fuckery?
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>>23947936
Still noonish or is it later? Sorry but I suck at keeping track of time in this quest.
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Are we seriously going to carry Bat-testicles in our utility belt?
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>>23947965
And ovaries, if they work that is.
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Rolled 95

>>23947936
"Do you have any recommendations for changes I can safely make to myself?
Maybe encouraging muscle growth?"
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>>23947950
Sure, should probably just use a whole female bat to disguise our actual purpose though. Pass it off as echolocation being a metaphor for our psychic scanning attempt.
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>>23947950
I wonder if things that are "traditionally feminine" would work as foci to sissify him. They'd be easier to pass off as foci for a mental attack than whipping out a pair of bat testicles in the lesson.
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>>23947965
>wizard
>not carrying bat testicals
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>>23947665
"I should probably start picking up some medical books and getting as much knowledge on that as I can, then, right?"
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>>23947991
>>23947990
Put em in a baggy. Put the baggy in our pocket.

We ain't gotta whip em out and set em on the table.
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>>23947983
Couldn't we just use whole animals to avoid giving obvious hints about what we're up to?
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>>23947936
Thank him for his help, ask when the next lesson on Living Alchemy is, and if he has any recommendations for any hormonal things to do to yourself.

And then I think we might be able to get a bit of meditation in and then we can head home and finalize everything for the Paris trip, make sure we have outfits for everything.
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>>23947936
Ask him if we could get our blood work done by Lotus.
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>>23947965
You say that as if we won't have a special "ball-pouch" on our bag, for a wide assortment of testicle types.
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>>23947936
>What now?

Ask dane if we can use living alchemy to augment others like we self augment.

Someone mentioned giving ourselves a vulnerability to alchemy to make self-augmenting easier, and we were wondering if we could give that to other people
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I think that whipping out our testicles and laying them on the table would cause a stir.

Especially if we did this at the library. There is no reaction the Librarian might have that would be good for us.
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>catching up on last thread
>magically mod glands
we can now hormone replacement therapy frenchy by punching him in the balls
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>>23947950
>Also will bat testicles and ovaries work for estro-testi fuckery?
I very much imagine it. Also a good idea to test this on some bats before doing it on Pierre. Since accidentally magically castrating him, while perhaps hot as fuck depending on your fetish and how it's described, isn't going to be very subtle and will give us away for sure.
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>>23948035
We don't know external augmentation yet, I like the thinking behind that though.

Living alchemy does not have the magic effects of augmentation.
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>>23948066

So we can tell bats' genders now?
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>>23948066
Seconding live animal testing if possible. We're on a pretty tight time budget at the moment.
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>>23948077
Does it have a dick and balls? Yes? It's probably a male bat.

The opposite? Female.

Unless there are incubus bats now too.
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>>23948077
Magic!
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>>23948001
Fuck, I'm cracking up at this post. Thank you for your contribution, good sir.

>>23948077
Sure, check for testicles. If it has them, it's a boy. I don't know how we check for feminization though.

>>23948052
Catch up on this thread too, bro.
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>>23948100
Why wouldn't there be?
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we need some mundane biology books now
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>>23948131
Yep. And molecular bio, biochemistry, maybe biophysics and pharmacology if we what to start creating unique proteins/hormones/metabolic pathways etc. The sky's the limit if we put in the prep time.
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>>23948182
And an extensive list of basic and applied chemistry resources, you know.
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"Can I get my bloodwork done here with the Lotus?" you ask.

"That's not really our thing," he admits.

"What about foci for this? Would bat gonads work?" you ask.

"Yes, probably," he says. "You might be able to disguise your use of the gonads by burning the entire bat, though."

What else?
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>>23948217
Thank him. Let's go home. Lin still here? I imagine she's doing another aug or two.
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>>23948217
I think it's probably time to head home and make our outfits. See if we could catch a bat for testing/focus use on the way home.
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>>23948217
Ask if there's another lesson next weekend or if this is gonna be a more irregular thing.

Let's head home though
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>>23948247
Might as well ask, but we should assume any future lessons will also come as payment for services rendered.
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>>23948269
He said he'd teach us for helping him. I doubt he's going to stop at one lesson, that would be kind of a dick move, besides, he seems worried we'll hurt ourself with it, so he'll want to make sure we've learned how to control it properly.
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>>23948243
Ah, right, I didn't mention, but you make your outfit over the past week, pasties and all.
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>>23948296
Did we book a hotel room? I know people have been asking on and off for that for a few threads.
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>>23948303
Well, if we didn't it's enchantment time.
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>>23948288
Given the phrasing Dane used, he could be more worried about getting in trouble for teaching us something we clearly weren't ready for than for our safety and well being. It might be a dick move, but lessons as payment is a pretty sure method to keep us helping him in the future.
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lets try for some Augs while we're at the lotus sanctum
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>>23948326
And as he himself said, he doesn't have friends, he has allies.
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>>23948296
Huh, phew, I no longer have to worry about time and energy consuming preparations. Changing vote from >>23948243 to live animal testing.
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>>23948303
Yes, you did.
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>>23948352
And maybe he'd like a minion...I'm merely trying to say that this is not a relationship of equals and it might take years, or not be possible, to earn Dane's respect. Trust ain't happening.
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>>23948385
I think Dane is more practical than that. He probably realizes that having someone willing to do you a favor or three tends to be more valuable, easier to maintain, and less overall threatening than having a 'minion'.
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Weren't we supposed to be sorting out an outfit for Liz too, is that done?
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>>23948385
>it might take years
or enchantment
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>>23948217
Would sanity help us resist mental threats like the vampirelord's enthrallment seed? If so I as we try getting that.
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>>23948415
Offensive enchantment against Dane, thus we commit suicide
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>>23948422
Considering we're on a time limit, I think we should hold off on any augs for now.
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>>23948455
Sigh, you may be right. I just can't really think of anything else worth pending the next 4-5 hours working on.
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>>23948455
we should have atleast 6 hours, so we should try for some +1 augs
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>>23948484
You're due back home in closer to three. It's nearly 1:00.
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>>23948501
In that case, head back, grab a few bats or rats or something from outside, then test out some basic living alchemy.
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>>23948403
I suppose that would be an easier way to lull us into a sense of security. I wonder if he's going to be attending Lotus meeting more frequently now that his main competition is gone, or if he's going to need to take out some of the lower ranked students in his circle before the come after him.
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>>23948510
seconded
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>>23948501
well damn, that's much less time than I thought we had. lets go home and make some permanent Mental attack tattoo foci
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>>23948510
This.
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>>23948528
Or this.
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>>23948518
inter-lotus is prohibited by Carl, who comes down like a tonne of bricks on violators
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Rolled 74

>>23948528
>>23948541
We already have mental attack foci
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>>23948510
yea do it on our way home
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When we get back, we have to tell Liz the good news about the impending sissification of Pierre.

Something tells me she'll be overjoyed.
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>>23948510
We should probably get cages set up first before collecting any animals.

And it'd be far better if we got lab rats instead of wild animals.
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>>23948589
>We should probably get cages set up first before collecting any animals.
Or we could just set them loose in our subterranean area. Bat shit is good fertilizer, after all, and we plan to garden.
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>>23948589
We have durability+2, most rodents and bats can't break our skin with tooth or claw. If you mean for control in experimentation - magic.
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>>23948501
I vote we teliport home and use those strain foci Lunch maid for us today to enchant our tattoos. start with healing.
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>>23948589
the first dozen of so tests will probable outright kill the target, lab rats for a few weeks down the road when we are fine tuning, dose and power their not needed right now.
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>>23948604
Perfect!
set up a emotional field there all sleep all the time so we can handle them better
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>>23948589
Hey, you know our school project? Animal specific passification field. They all say orderly in there corner of the basement, and we plant personal control seeds in there mind so the don't run loose if we need to move them.
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>>23948604
The subterranean area isn't sealed off from the rest of the tower. The bats would get out into our living areas.
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Sounds like consensus is to head home. Is that accurate?
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Rolled 77

>>23948667
yes
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>>23948667
That's right.
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>>23948667
Yes. Maybe say something like "Ok, I'm heading home to start working on this, assuming that won't look too suspicious."

Could we also ask for his read on Sanjay? Might be a bad time but I'm kinda curious.
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>>23948564
a single one, note how we have multiple ward foci
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>>23948667
yes
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>>23948564
As >>23948699 said, it's pretty worrying that we only have one mental attack focus.
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>>23948642
We'll be like the pied piper, except with more tits.

Obligatory: Work out large-area rat mind control aura, give to Selene, watch as she becomes the lord of the night. Fuck all that new-agey super strength and sparkling and shit, all a pseudo-vampire really needs is mind control and a hoard of angry vermin.
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>>23948667
Is Living Alchemy all one thing for the purpose of making permanent Foci, or are there multiple types?
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>>23948740
I vote living alchemy strain if that is specific enough. If not strain mental attack is good I missed that we have 2 healing already.
An inbuilt foci strain or 3 would also be good. so we can build our foci whenever we have time.
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>>23948757
>not watching Mondaiji-tachi
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>>23948794
Why don't we craft a couple focus-stain foci, using the first completed to ward off the strain of the next spell? We keep our strain down before getting on to the other foci and can make more foci per session in the future.
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>>23948854
I like that plan but we can use the ones Lunch made for us to get the ball rolling. Plus we need like 5 max because each focus takes ~1 hour to make and foci take ~3-4 hours to charge.
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>>23948922
Fair enough. Hopefully we'll get faster at focus crafting eventually...
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>>23949005
I am almost certain the number of success determines the speed. One being you took the whole hour but succeeded.
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"Hey, before I go, what's your read on Sanjay?" you ask.

"Smart. Driven. Doesn't trust people or make friends. He reminds me of me in the first circle, but less charming," says Dane. "I hope that doesn't end up biting him in the ass."

Huh. You guess you never really saw the parallels. The two of you part ways and you send your dad a text for a return teleport. A minute or two later, you're quite suddenly standing in the inbound teleportation circle. Your dad gives you a quick hug, then starts climbing back down the ladder to get back to work.

What do you do now?
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Rolled 14

>>23949088
make mental attack foci
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>>23949088
Go find Liz, tell her about our plan for Pierre.
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>>23949111

We should make some mental defenses, actually. Never know when we might need it, and we've been neglecting them
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>>23949112
this
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>>23949088
Make sure we have everything ready for our trip, that being our outfit, Liz's outfit, both clubbing and casual outfits for this.

If all of that is taken care of we can get some Foci made, good way to pass the time.

>>23949112
Liz is probably out doing SOTA stuff.
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>>23949088
grab lunch see what she has got done. then have her help make a Living alchemy Foci
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>>23949112 I don't think she gets home until 5.

>>23949088
Do >>23949140. Also, I assume we will manually have to refresh active wards throughout the night?
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>>23949088
Play with our daughter this will be her first night without ether of her mom's.
otherwise do this >>23949211 make 3 of our crown tattoos foci strain foci
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Be sure to give Liz her present while she's still getting ready in the bathroom. Tell her to close her eyes, put it on her, and ask her to imagine exactly what she wants. Then let her open her eyes to see herself with the collar in the mirror.
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>>23949211
Crud, I may have mistakenly assumed >>23948296 included Liz's outfit in our completed preparations. If not then yes, we'd better get on that.
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>>23949088
Did we get an outfit for Liz too? If not, we should really do that now.
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>>23949289
no we do that in the hotel when we change from shopping to club where and she is naked.

>>23949326
I thought she had that covered but i could have read wrong.
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>>23949365
This on both points.
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>>23949088
Pack overnight bags for Liz and ourself.
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We are going shopping today so i am posting our whole shopping list.
Remote control vibrator
Ballgag
Dildogag
Buttplug
Ring gag
Pin-locked manacles and/or padded leather cuffs
One of those gloves that keep your hands together, I think they are called monoglove or something
Rope (I think we already have some but maybe special rope for bondage or something)
Silk gloves, elbow length
Matching thigh-highs
Handcuffs (More than 1 pair, might be useful as foci, too)
24 hour incense coils
A desktop waterfall
Scented wax
Microwave
One of those things that go DONK
Lab rats and cages
books on biochemistry, chemistry, anatomy, pharmacology, metallurgy
sexy costumes for the meals
disposable handcuffs.
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>>23949408
For foci handcuffs we really should just get those plastic zip ties, much easier to carry concealed in bulk.
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>>23949408
Lots of different gags. And only one buttplug? What if we want to plug more than one butt at a time?
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>>23949408
>One of those things that go DONK
They aren't all that hard to make yourself, you know.
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>>23949439
And generally useful for fastening things!
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>>23949460
"What if we want to plug more than one butt at a time?" Somehow, those words will stay with me for the rest of my life.
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>>23949463
I agree but we need the materials.
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You look around the tower, seeing if Liz is in, but she seems to still be gone with her society meeting. You lay out everything for tonight, including your and Liz's outfits, the hotel confirmation, and a small, slender package wrapped in perfect black paper containing a jewelry box with Liz's collar in it. You figure you may as well try on your outfit again now.

You start with the pasties, sticking them on over your nipples, and a matching black banana hammock - this entire outfit was made with magic, so everything matches perfectly. You put on your shirt, a simple, crisp white dress shirt, followed shortly by your fitted charcoal-and-slate pinstripe slacks. You put on your waist coat, the same pinstripe in the front and black silk in the back, and then your sports coat - fitted and feminine, not baggy - on top of that.

You take a look at yourself in the mirror when you're all dressed. You'll be ditching the white shirt and probably the sports coat later. Right now, though, if it weren't for how pretty your face was and the hint of a bust under your jacket, you could pass for a well-dressed girly twink. Instead, though, you're just a dickgirl; totally different.

It's about 2:00 at this point.

What do you do now?
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>>23949439
Those are very easy to break. Get real zipcuffs instead.
http://www.handcuffwarehouse.com/tudidorepof1.html
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>>23949567
play with Selene do some Tai Chi
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>>23949580
yes we want the foci cuffs to be useful at ether job.

>>23949567
how much cash do we have for this trip?
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>>23949567
Marvel at how gorgeous we are. Play with Selene a bit before we have to go.

Any safety things we need to prep before leaving? We haven't be off school grounds since we got here, maybe aside from going to Sibiu.
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>>23949567
Mmm, I dunno. Check in on Selene and the pets, see what they're up to.
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>>23949567
Play with Selene for a bit, make sure we have more than enough cash for our trip, and then if we have time and a book on biology we should read that, otherwise just study or work out or something.
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>>23949651
>how much cash do we have for this trip?
Good question. Is it too late to liquidate some gold?
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>>23949650
do this

>>23949549
>>23949460
The gags were a list of variety we need more than one plug obviously But i dont know any special kinds.

>>23949674
even if we cant small pieces of gold make good tips.
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>>23949674
>Not rolling up to the club with a duffel bag of gold bricks
>Not making it rain
>20whateveryearthisis
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>>23949650
Tai chi will get us sweaty and ruin our outfit
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>>23949654
We could go ask dad, he'd be more familiar with any preparations we'd need to take.
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>>23949685
>gold makes good tips
True. Very memorable though, so I'd rather not.
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>>23949704
>We need to change back to street cloths anyway.
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>>23949685
Every time I've looked around Tantus is the brand that kept my attention. The Bronco is a pretty good one. Great size without being too massive. The Ripple Large is a good warm-up plug, too.
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>>23949567
Go play with Selene. If we haven't already, explain that her mommies are heading out on an overnight trip later an will be back tomorrow (hopefully).
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>>23949748
yes even if she expects Lin Liz and us to be gone for the night we can still play with her.
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>>23949702
>somebody starts to hit on Liz in front of us
>slap them with our bag
>ohshitit'sfullofgold
>thanks to super-human strength, it goes flying into their face
>*The head flies off in a bloody arc!*
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>>23949685
If we're giving out gold pieces, how are we going to shape them? In little one-gram pieces with the standard swiss stamp? But we can't pay in only gold, it needs to be local currency for most things.

>>23949702
>making it rain
Gold is heavy.

>>23949714
Does it matter? It will be something like "Some high-rolling dyke was tipping in gold" "Yeah, just gram pieces, she probably just wanted to show off for her girlfriend". And that's it. Weirder shit happens every day in big cities.
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>>23949742
I don't really see why but ok...
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>>23949702
>>23949812
>Making it rain with gold bricks
>Throwing 27 pound hunks of metal up into the air
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>>23949854
>Go see Selene
>"Mommy look, Breakfast and me have been fingerpainting!"
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>>23949867
It's a golden shower!
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>>23949839
Gold is easier to alchemize, and to track, than paper currency. We dont really know much about the occult underground so it just seems like one of those slightly sloppy behaviors that could get us made as a magic user and cause trouble down the road.
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>>23949924
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>>23949839
>Does it matter? It will be something like "Some high-rolling dyke was tipping in gold" "Yeah, just gram pieces, she probably just wanted to show off for her girlfriend". And that's it. Weirder shit happens every day in big cities.

>1 gram is 40euro/51USD
>Not a huge tip

Even if we spend a thousand or more, tossing around that much gold will get attention.
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>>23949951
You think there's gonna be OU people in the parisian bars? Could be I guess.

>>23949973
Right, a high roller. Not that unusual for someone to be showing off for a girlfriend, you know? And people tend to tip high when partying.
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>>23949973
>moderately expensive French restaurant
>pay 200 Euros
>one gram
Seems about right to me.
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>>23949994
But not in fucking GOLD, and most especially not in unmarked and unworked lumps of magically-made 99.9999999-% pure gold.
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>>23949994
People tipping large amounts of cash to show off isn't unusual.

Tipping gold, that's very unusual, and I say that from experience of working in bars.
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>>23950029
Yuropoors don't normally tip, so any will be more than usual.
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>>23949924
No watersports in BFQ, Im afraid.
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>>23950044
rest of the fucking world does not tip
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>>23949994
>high roller
You do realize that we are a sixteen year old muscle dickgirl right? Not really old enough to be a high roller in most countries and pretty easy to remember if Max gives someone a reason (such as handing a gold tip to someone). Heck, the incubus in us probably makes us more memorable since we have an ambient je ne sais quoi aura going for us.
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>>23950044
Mostly we're not allowed to anyway, I used to work in a bar in Britain, and we were told to refuse all tips or we'd get fired.

I had to explain this to an American tourist once when he tried to tip me.

I would've taken that tip, it was huge, but my manager was lurking over my shoulder, goddamnit.
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>>23950029
>moderately expensive
>$256.44 meal

What are you doing on 4chan, Mister McDuck.
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>>23950081
I wasn't aware that "je ne sais quoi" translated to "bonerific".
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>>23950115
Remember, we're going to be a fairly large group.
>>
You can easily buy a bottle of wine with dinner that costs more than $200 American. People with money to burn often do. I've seen four figure bills at places that weren't even super-exclusive celebrity haunts.
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>>23950444

I work at a hotel. even if stuff's reasonably priced, large parties add up.
Appetizers, and drinks, and booze, and refills for cocktails, and fries, and sides, and deserts, not to mention main courses and expensive bottles of wine, for 6-9 people over the course of a few hours...
It adds up
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>>23949408
>Ring gag
Can we get one of these dental-like ring gags? Those are fun.
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>>23950545
Huh, I thought we were going to make a shape shifting gag for Liz. I guess we can buy a couple mundane ones for now.
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>>23950585
Oh? I didn't catch that in our plans. All the better, then.
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Do we even have a consensus on what we're doing? I'm worried Fem is sitting around waiting for us to agree to do something.
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>>23950875
I think our consensus before we went off at a tangent was to go see Selene and make sure she's okay about us all going off for the weekend.

I'm assuming we've told her, but a little time playing with her before we go wouldn't go amiss.
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>>23950875
Tai Chi/play with Selene till Liz comes home
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>>23950875
Not sure, I thought we were spending some time with Selene or enchanting a couple tattoos, but I could be wrong. I assume FemC is busy or having Internet issues.
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>>23950928
I hope someone is watching to make sure the thread doesn't disappear before it gets archived.
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>>23949567
tai chi with the little girl and etc.
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mfw we critfail tai chi and punch our baby in the head.
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>>23950976
Fuck you for even think that.
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page 10 archiving
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>>23950976
We should try and punch Selene in the head so that when we crit fail we end up teaching her tai chi perfectly.
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>>23950976
well with our strength it would be through the kids head
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>>23951219
shut up
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>>23951217
that's stupider than snapple
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archived
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/23946851/
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>>23951208
>realty stupid joke
Really?
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>>23951267
yes I archived it here
>>23951262
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Fuck's sake, internet. Okay, I guess we're going to end it here for the night. I'm writing this at 9:15. Let's see how long it takes to post.
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>>23951289
you misspelled 'really' as 'realty'
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>>23951289
Can't tell if it was an intentional joke or a spelling error.
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>>23951316
...Twenty-five minutes. Yep.
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>>23951316
have you called your ISP and complained that is some colossally shitty service.
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>>23951419
It's not like I have the option of switching, sadly.
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>>23951443
Do we have an action set for tomorrows thread to open with, or are we voting again? Asking because I'm probably missing the first hour or two.
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>>23951419
As if most of them care. They basically have a monopoly, and even if you get a "choice" it's only between Cable and DSL in nearly every market.

Businesses have something like 10 times as many options for for service providers, too.
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>>23951443
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0ilMx7k7mso
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>>23951443
still call and bitch at the very least they can give you 10-15 % off your bill. you would be surprised what you can get when you call a company and ask what they are going to do to make this right.
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>>23951505
To be fair, their services also cost, minimally, ten times as much as home services. Getting even one business connection is a damn good bit of money for a provider.
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>>23951443
Don't you live in a major city?
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>>23951443
there is only one ISP where you live? Even if there is a complaint at the BBB should get you a refund on some of what you payed.
Not to mention if this negatively affects your home business they are liable if you can show there specific negligence in service or a pattern of negligence.
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>>23951496
You'll be starting with checking in on Selene.

>>23951513
It's not even in my name. I pay my landlord for utilities, and they are not switching. As soon as my lease is up here I'm fucking bouncing.
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>>23951531
Note tell your provider there is an issue before calling the Better Business Bureau.
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>>23951539
then your landlord is likely in breach of contract assuming internet is part of your included utilities. If your heat or water failed all the time they damn well would be. Plus most ISP's will acknowledge your complaint as a subcontracted tenant.
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>>23951539
Are they running the modem and/or router? Because that could be causing it too if their gear is subpar for what it's being tasked to do.
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>>23951616
No, the router is fine, the problem is that this entire apartment block hasn't had an internet infrastructure update since the fucking early aughts. Some places in Brooklyn are still just completely terrible.
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>>23951694
And as long as people keep paying for it (like they have a choice) they'll put off such upgrades as long as they can.
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>>23951860
Exactly. Which is one of many reasons I gone as soon as this lease is up in August.
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>>23951905

Which isp are you with, by the way?

I know you can get sweet deals asking for the loyalty department at Comcast, for example
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>>23951972
We've got Time Warner here. My landlord is locked in at a cheap rate, though, and doesn't want to switch to a new company, despite how shit the internet has been. If I had the option of changing around this place's internet services, I would.
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>>23952059

Oh ,yeah, time warner sucks.

One of my best buds has them and HATES it. They live in a one block hole in which google fiber is unavailable. Even the people across the street have access to it
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>>23952207
Comcast is mostly reliable here in the Twin Cities.

If you've got a decent speed package and a DOCSIS 3 modem so it's bonded channel/static ip.

Makes bans a pain, though.



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