>>24258017
been seeing a lot of these lately, but haven't participated yet. What exactly is being discussed here?
I really like Bionicle, but after the Bohrok thing it gets too contrived imo. The original adventure game playing as the chronicler (can't remember his bloody name...) was brilliant.

>>24258093
Mainly we talk about our favourite and least favourite parts of the storyline.
We're /tg/ relevant because
>Bionicles are phat
>One guy is making a Bionicle wargame
>One guy is making a matoran RPG

Other topics for discussion include
>Tiki spaceships
>Redoing the canon post-2003
>Great Beings: No sense of right or wrong!
>Engineers: No sense of right or wrong!
>Most things in the Bionicle universe: No sense of right or wrong!
>Mata Nui Online Game (the main character of which is Takua)
>Trust in Dume

>>24258138
souns nice, though it seems my knowledge of only the first arc will be madly insufficient to properly participate here. Matoran RPG seems pretty damn awesome.

>>24258163
A lot of people in the threads only followed up to about 2002 or 2003, because they either lost interest due to getting older or due to the sudden tone shift to sci-fi, so I wouldn't worry

hmm, I only just remembered... I got the Mask of light lying around here, I got it for like 2 euros from someone. Maybe I should get to watch it...

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I want to take all my remaining toas and unite them as a giant robot

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>>24258163
Soon… soon…
I will open the matoran quest!
(Yep, the rpgfag is here)

>>24258308
Oooh hell yeah! Any more specific date or something?

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He is a god-tier bro

>>24258359
Not really. I still have to do all the level 4 abilities, but it shouldn't take too long.
Do you saw the system in the old thread? Or should I post it here?

>>24258383
nope, haven't actually read through anything, sorry. Seems interesting though.

H-Hey, don't want to sound pathetic, but where can I find information about the Bionicle storyline/mythology/universe? Is there a detailed Wiki or something? I loved it to pieces and still do, and want to get back into it.

>>24258441
>http://bionicle.wikia.com/wiki/The_Bionicle_Wiki
Have at it

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>>24258428
Don't worry, it's all saved on my computer.
The system will be skill-based and not class/level based, and will use the d20 as the main dice.
There will be 6 elements, and every element have 3 skills. In every skill, after you put x points into him, you will gain to choose a new ability. So if you put x points in earth (awareness) you could choose to get a low light vision or improved hearing. After y points in a element, you get a new ability- if you put y points in water, you could see better underwater.
>in character creation, you choose your element, which will give you bonus to the element's skills, and a unique ability.you can choose your equipment based on your element, and if you have the right skills, you can start with an animal are magical weapons.
>the elements and skills:
>fire
-melee
-blacksmithing
-leadership
>water
-swimming and sailing
-range
-sneaking
>wind
-performance
-ride
- jump
>ice
-knowledge
-survival
-ice craft
>stone (brown)
-unarmed fighting
-running and climbing
-stone craft
>earth (black)
-awareness
-strength
-engineering

>Find big ol box of Bionicle bits
>Spend ages making original characters do not steal
>NO ONE MUST EVER KNOW (other than /tg/)

>>24258482
>the basics of fighting:
>you attack
you roll range/melee/unarmed +weapon bonus
the target can block or dodge- block is melee/unarmed + weapon bonus, and dodge is (jump+awarness+run)\2.
>you hit
The damge is range/melee/unarmed +weapon bonus. the target armor lower the score.
if the armor is to high, nothing happend.
> you damage the target
you lower the target HP. if you remove 1\2 of the target HP in one attack, you knocked his mask off. if the target reach 0 HP and is still awake, he is now crippled/knocked out
>mental and elemental attacks
these attacks are like normal attacks, only you roll the element or the power score (if mental) aginst the target element or oppesing element (if you use fire attack, you roll aginst fire or ice) or the opposing Principle- for every element, there is a Principle (water is purety, stone is creation, ice is peace, fire is courage, wind is faith, and earth is posperity). the effect change from attack to attack
>in the end of a fight/skill test/when the GM want, you will get exp, and you could put those point in any skill you want. for every level, the price is 2level-1 (so level 1 cost 1, 2 cost 3....).
there are no coins in mata nui (as far as i know). if you want to buy something, you have to trade somthing else for it.
Finished skill trees: melee, ride, swim and sail, run and climb, ice craft, and engineering

>>24258503
Levels 18-20 of every skill are the elemental level, where you get ability every level, but only matorans of the right elements (only ta-matorans can have 18 levels in melee) can reach them.

>>24258489
very recognisable.
>>24258503
D20 I suppose?
And how exactly would masks work, or hasn't that been made yet?

Rolled 9

>>24258979
It's a matoran rpg. Mask powers are for npc only (so no)

>>24259072
Hmm, that always kinda made me wonder. matorans really can't use the mask's powers right? Only the toa?
That's good to know, but then what exactly is the function of the mask to the matoran? And a system for it would be nice if we need Toa bro's or perhaps a corrupted/mindcontrolled toa as an enemy.

>>24259272
There will be mask powers and toas npc's, but it will be added later (still doing the skills). Matorans use their masks as life support- if one don't have a mask on for too long, they will enter coma or die

>>24258138
Wargame guy here, I probably won't have anything posted for a while (work and stuff), but that matoran RPG is looking good.

>>24259272
As >>24259312 said, they go into a coma and eventually die if they don't wear a mask.

Toa aren't the only beings that can use mask powers. Turaga can use lesser versions of the mask powers they had as toa. Makuta (species) also all wear kanohi which they can use. Some other beings, like some skakdi and unique beings (like Axonn and Brutaka) can also use mask powers.

>>24258221
worth watching, even if some of the voices are silly.

But it does feature the mighty scott mcneil.

>>24258221
The ending battle between the toa of light and makuta is a sports match.
Other than that it's... alright. Still pissed at what they did to Jala and all the matoran, making them weak children.

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>>24259528
It's Jaller now, they changed some of the names.

>>24259552
Let me have my insanities!
I know they changed all the names due to the whole legal trouble of trying to copyright actual words.

I'm pissed off at how little the Toa Inika and Mahri resemble their matoran forms.

>Matoran Jaller - Bright red and yellow, Tahu mask
>Toa Jaller - Dull red, some gold armour, ugly mask

>Matoran Hahli - Pale blue and deep blue, Hahli mask
>Toa Hahli - Dark blue, some silver armour, mask with a big moustache

>Matoran Nuparu - Black, grey feet, orange Onua mask
>Toa Nuparu - All black, weird mask with spike mohawk

>Matoran Kongu - Bright green and turqoise, Lewa mask
>Toa Kongu - Green, weird lop sided grimacing mask

>Matoran Hewki - Brown and tan, Pohatu mask
>Toa Hewki - Dark shiny grey and yellow, probably the second least ugly mask of the Inika

Matoro was bearable. His colour scheme was roughly the same, and his mask wasn't that ugly.

>>24259613
They had the same masks as the toa, which means you can't market GLORIOUS NEW MERCHANDISE.

>>24259613
So, knowing that Matoro sacrificed himself and saved everyone and Jaller (who was leading the team) got captured and enslaved (along with the rest of the team), despite his achievements as a matoran:

Who's better Matoro or Jaller?

>>24259664
Jaller and Jala are different people.
Jala is the best.

>>24259664
Matoran Jaller > Matoran Matoro
Toa Matoro > Toa Jaller

Seriously all Jaller did as a toa was flail around a bit on Voya Nui then spint his whole time in Mahri Nui bitching and whining about being under water.

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Bro-nua master race

>>24259705
>digs all day
>live underground
>can live in the dark without problem
>short (to other toas)
a true dwarf

>>24259705
I just loved the look of Kopaka, but Onua was such a bro.

I don't like how the quality of the mask powers steadily got lower

At first mask powers were sweet but simple. As the series went on, they became either very lazy or very obscure/complicated.

Like, 2006 introduced the mask of flight even though there was already a mask of levitation.

And there's all that complex stuff like 'mask of repulsion' and 'mask of rebounding' and all these new fangled things

anyway, a little update on the rpg:
range is the "mage" skill- at low level, it's just archery, but at higher level, when you get the Kanoka disks, that work like one-use spells. blacksmithing is used to make discs (and all other elemental items) and "refile" their power. there are some examples for discs here: http://bionicle.wikia.com/wiki/Kanoka
but i will make more

i personally don't see anything wrong with the storyline, aside from the very end being rushed so they could start HF (there were going to be Baterra sets, and Mata Nui was going to go to Bota Magna to find the Great Beings and how to stop Teridax, and the planet would have dinosaurs)
of course, it's entirely possible that the reason i don't have the same issues with post 2003 is that i only discovered BIONICLE during the Mask of Light arc

>>24262264
Or that mask that ONLY allows you to know where the mask of light is?
Or that mask that the bad repairman has that shows people alternate timelines for some reason.

Rolled 37

>>24264364
Or the maskless toas?

>>24264515
>maskless toa
What? When was that ever a thing?

>>24263965
i started from the very beginning and didnt have a problem up until after voya nui

>>24265488
Toa hordika. They didn't have any mask powers, and (as far as I remember ) didn't really had masks, at least on the toys.

>>24265584
Ah, I see.
>>24265559
My breaking point was the return of the original toa team in unrecognizable forms. Then later I learned that they got beaten by six thugs despite having enough firepower and ingenuity to take down the Makuta, the bohrok queens, the Kal, and the rhakshi.

>>24265648
that was also what got to me. when i realized that lego was just coming up with a new action figure design annually and naming the red one "tahu X" each time.

>>24265819
Oh come on, Lego is a business. Them releasing new toys every year makes sense, they've gotta pay the bills and make a profit you know.
What I wish was that they'd kept the technic angle.

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>>24265819
Every toa group (exept for the one that was half sky half swamp) was a lesser copy of the toa mata, that got worst over time. There were ups (like the toa hordika/metru) and downs (jaller)

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>>24258232
>dem sexy legs

i like dis. its too bad the rest of it is so meh.

>>24266176
The rest of it is a dude. I think. It's very confusing
It's non-sexual, ok?!

>>24265996
I wish they'd have reintroduced the original toa but also give them updated bodies, more articulation and the old masks. And none of that dull color crap!

>>24266253
This is 4chan, everything is sexual here.

Gentlemen? Have we all suddenly lost our love of Bionicle all at once?

>>24266994
No no, /tg/ seems to have a very united view on Bionicle which most of us stick to. It's pretty much:
>Bionicle is fucking awesome
>2001 - 2003 is best
>We prefer the tiki stuff but still enjoy the sci-fi stuff
>The ending was rushed to a point where it wasn't very enjoyable

>>24263965
>Baterra sets
>Mata Nui going to Bota Magna arc
>Great Beings
>Dinosaurs

I WANT THIS TO HAPPEN SO BADLY WHY DIDN'T IT

>>24267083
Yupyup.
except that I didn't even knew there was an actual ending.

>>24267159
Yeah, there was an ending. There was a giant robot fight and mata nui's original body got a moon to the face.
>>24267101
Fuck if I know.

>>24267083
>>2001 - 2003 is best
Remind me what parts that was, I'm a little rusty.
Also, I like the later stuff, if mostly for how insane it got.

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>>24267083
That's... something I can completely agree with. I must have glanced at the previous threads at all the wrong times, because I kept seeing people saying they loathe everything after 2003.

>>24267267
>2001 - Toa fight rahi corrupted by the Makuta and search for the masks. They eventually defeat the Makuta beneath Mata Nui
>2002 - Fighting the bohrok (the little ball robots with the pecking chicken heads) and eventually sealing their queens away. At the end the toa were transformed into Toa Nuva
>First half of 2003 - Fighting a group of elite bohrok called the bohrok-kal
>Second half of 2003 - Makuta makes a come back. Fighting the sons of Makuta, the rahkshi, and searching for the toa of light

>>24267210
wasn't mata nui like, an island? So a moon crashed onto it?

>>24267344
Mata Nui was secretly a giant robot. And the red star was his jetpack.
Oh yes, and magic is just programming.

>>24267344
Mata Nui was the name of the island, and his face WAS THE ISLAND. Makuta hijacked his body and sent the Mask of Life to Bara Magna(he was on Aqua Magna), where there was another robot body for him to use.

>>24267344
There's two Mata Nuis: the island 2001 - 2003 took place on, and the Great Spirit the matoran worship, who they named the island after.

As it turns out, Mata Nui is not a spirit, but a giant robot created by the Great Beings to explore space. Most of the Matoran Universe is inside him. The Mata Nui island was covering his face after he crash landed on a water planet, because it was part of his camaflouge system.

At the end of 2008 the toa woke up Mata Nui, but he got kicked out of his body by Makuta (Teridax) who then took it over. Mata Nui got expelled to another planet.

At the end of the storyline Mata Nui takes over a different giant robot and fights Makuta, still in Mata Nui's original body. Mata Nui defeats giant robot Makuta by pulling a moon into his head with gravity beams, killing the BBEG for good and putting an end to the storyline proper.

>>24267314
/tg/ doesn't like Metru Nui? Weird.

>>24267267
2001 - Island of Mata Nui, Toa now call the Toa Mata had to collect the masks and battle Makuta.
2002 - After the battle with Makuta, Makuta awakens the Bohrak Swarms to invade Mata Nui and remove everything on the island. Toa had to collect all 48 kinds of Krana and then descend to the Bohrak's lair to fight the Bahrag Queens to stop the swarm. After the battle the Toa fall into Energized Protodermis and turn into the Toa Nuva.
2003 - Bohrak Kal awaken and steal the Toa's Elemental Powers in order to reawaken the Bahrag. Toa stop them and the Mask of Light is found. Makuta sends out his sons, the Rahkshi, to take the Mask of Light before the 7th Toa.
Takua becomes the 7th toa and Makuta is defeated (again)

>>24267369
>Magic was just programming
Not strictly true.
The powers possessed by most of the Bionicles are definetely magic or mystical in nature. Elemental powers aren't programming.

A lot of phenomena and foreshadowing was explained as programming, but no one ever said "actually Toa only have powers because of the robotic elemental motherboard in their kanohi."

>>24267409
Ah, ok.
I must agree with >>24267083 then, I liked the tiki stuff more

>>24267442
It's those weird arms, man. No one stands around with their arms out 60 degrees from their body.

>>24267462
Yeah, but all their powers were for work on the giant robot, not for the cause of JUSTICE!

Oh hey, look what I found on my computer. The proposed idea for the 2010 arc/movie before Lego decided to end Bionicle.

http://pastebin.com/DjPsCa0h

>>24267574
Okay, the dinosaurs are nice, but I am totally lost when it comes to the people. And constantly reading 'Ackar' as "Ackbar" didn't help.

>http://bionicle.wikia.com/wiki/Teridax_(Melding_Alternate_Universe)
How do I find out more about him?

One person making an RPG and a bunch of others talking about the "story" behind a toyline.

>>24267887
Read the serials. They should be downloadable from http://biomediaproject.com/bmp/serials/
Everything ele bionicle should be downloadable from there too, including MNOLG I and II

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>>24268100
>implying any of that's a bad thing
wow someone's got ants in their breakfast
>implying bionicle doesn't have a story
pic

Is a moc fine too?

>>24268100
>40k threads
One person making a chapter and a bunch of others talking about the "story" behind a toyline.

People will talk about what they want to talk about and you can't stop them. Besides, Bionicle had a board game and some card games, can't get more /tg/ than that.

>>24268758
Only if it looks cool.

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>>24269176
Hmm... I have a few saves from 2009 when I was all about 3edgy5me. I'll post a couple. Welcome to terrible camera angles.

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Actually sort of like this one still

>>24269238
>>24269256
I don't mean to offend you, but these kind of look like Liefeld creations in toy form. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, and I'd really like a better picture of that rhakshi headed thing, but I'm just saying, man...

>>24269314
>Liefeld creations
They get off because they're not actually supposed to be human. Liefeld can't draw anatomy for shit, but when you're dealing with magic alien cyborgs you've got a little more freedom.

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>>24269314
Had to look up this liefeld fellow. But I understand completely, no offense taken. Heres the best one I could find of the rhakshi headed one.

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>>24269256
Why did I not clean off the counter top for these.

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>>24269395
TANK TREAD ROLLERBLADES

>>24269367
Oooo, pretty.
>covered in weapons
Combat-type Rhakshi with the power of.... combat! (Oh god, Kablam, I miss you)

>>24269395
I knew the roller derby got rough and tumble, but this is just ridiculous.

>>24269423
>>24269451
This was 3edgy5me. I decided to do the 4 horseman of the apocalypse because edge and the darkness. This is War.

>>24269581
War.... war never changes.

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>>24269433
Supposed to be guardian of earth. I had a special snowflake story about how they gained sentience and were helping the Toa fight against Makuta.

>mfw I check bionicle prices
>capcha pposter surprised
You're right 4chan. I am.

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Here is one of the other 2 horseman I finished. Never got done with famine. Could never get one to look skinny.This is pestilence.

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>>24269698
side view

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and here is death.

>>24269698
>>24269712
We're gonna need more raid.
>>24269725
>red hands
I know where this is going
>>24269630
Expensive, right? Yeah, I wanted to complete my collection of the original toa and I looked it up and an unopened canister goes for $90 on amazon.
And I asked for it as a birthday present. The gifter understandably freaked before I explained that while I would like it, I in no way expected them to pay 9 sawbucks for something that cost less than a tenth of that back in the day.
And then I discovered Bricklink.
Link related: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaqRwFyoGgQ

>>24269367
>>24269395
>>24269712
>>24269725
Interesting design choices. It's certainly very.... spiky.

>>24269853
I had a lot of spikes.

>>24270494
I can see that.
Alright, /tg/, favorite matoran!

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>>24271725

>>24271725 (Fuck that movie)
>>24271751
Yeah, I should have expected that.
My favorite is a tie between Hafu, Kapura, and Taipu. Jala is still pretty boss, though.

Metru Nui best Nui.
Anyone disagreeing is wrong and should feel bad.

>>24272234
Tiki tiki is best Nui.
Secret of Travelling Great Distances Very Quickly by Moving Very Slowly, motherfuckers!

>>24259705
>TFW You had every earth Bionicle set.

It was fucking glorious.

Hey, did anyone have the Manas set? Was that worth the high price? The only thing I had was the scorpion duo.

all this bionostolgia has caused me to realize what an idiot i am for playing 40k. I bet there's more plastic in my single, 8 dollar, tahu nuva set than my entire 1000 point warhammer army

>>24273194
eh, why not collect both?

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>>24270682
macku and hewkii

>>24273194
The good side is that soon you could play the bionicle wargame and not spend all that money on finecast. Any bionicle war game will be cheaper then 40k game with the same amount of plastic.

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>>24271751
>Macku blushing

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>>24272234

Damn straight.

Lhikan died for your sins, /tg/.

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>>24275248
I'm starting to think that Hau was cursed or some shit.

>>24259705
>Tfw playing in the dirt with Onua, digging big tunnel complexes in the back yard.

Why does everyone hate the Voya nui line again? I think it was a great return to the 'mysterious adventure in an unknown land' theme they had going on back in 2001/2002. Not to mention the barraki were way cooler than the piraka and the Toa Mahri are way better than the god damn horidka shit.

>>24275454
>>24275454
1. Less tiki
2. We liked the Toa Mahri more when they were matorans
3. I don't hate the voya nui storyline, I just say that mata nui was better

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Isn't that weird that even when bionicle still had the tiki theme, there were a lot of chainsaws?

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>>24275717
that's it, I've cracked it!

One sure fire way to get /tg/'s interest is the inclusion of chainsaws

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>>24275734

>>24275717
Well the general aesthetic wasn't just tiki, it was techno-tribal. Just look at all the pistons and gears.

>>24275734
god, this design was just so stupid.

Sure, it's not "CHAINSAW KNEEEES" but it's close enough.

me and my brother actually made a Reaper from C&C Tiberian Sun: Firestorm with bionicle parts. It's still alive, but I'm at school right now. I'll try to get pics if anyone's interested when I get home in about one and a half hours.

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>>24275736
I have the best saw-weapon, you land-walkers!

>>24275833
Imagine how hard it must be to wield that long a chainsaw at the very bottom of it. Matau is one bad motherfucker!

This sounds fascinating, but my only experience with Bionicles is having a few of the toys when I was a kid.

I tried to start reading up on the wiki, and suddenly I sympathize with what newcomers to 40K experience when they brave Lexicanum for the first time.

>>24275936
Hehe, I actually got into 40k through the DoW games. Started getting into the lore, coming to /tg/, then found lexicanum and READ THE CRAP OUT OF IT.

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>>24275936
The Lexicanum isn't so bad. The bionicle wiki is worst, because you can't tell where the tiki end and where the si fi begins.

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>>24275833
I'm telling you, the bohrok were the masters of chainsaws

>>24275833
How did your weapon got better when you became a turaga? Isn't that supposed to be the other way?

>>24275734
Itty bitty arms.

>>24276778
Some of the other turaga got better weapons too. Onewa gets a big hammer, Whenua gets a sweet drill, and Vakama gets something that is actually FIRE themed!

>>24277259
Well, vakama didn't get a new weapon like the other. He had his fire staff all the time, he just didn't use it (don't ask why)

>>24276209
>chainsaw shuriken

I can see forever

>>24277716
Because it's a tool for mask making, the same one that made the mask of time?

>>24277716
>>24278060
He could still have done amazing things with it. But no, he had to have that dinky disk launcher.

>>24278392
like melting the mask of his enemies during battle?
Wait, it does sound awesome

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>>24275717
I know

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How is the best turaga /tg/?

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>>24282534
> Nuju
> New-Jew
I always hated his name.
He was a fuck-awesome toa though, those snow-shoes/axe things were bad ass.

>>24282534
Phweeeee
Tweet tweet
Click click
Chirp phweeee
Whistle tweet

>>24279282
Having a flaming staff of fire is always useful. Really, they just gave him the launcher to 'justify' the disc packs.

>>24282790
Nuju says; "The Toa will unite and find more power in their joining."

What other islands should be on the surface of the planet if we are going to say that Mata Nui the robogod is not actually under the island of Mata Nui and nobody goes into the underdark?

>>24287173
The Mata Nui robogod stuff was present from the beginning, really. It's implied in the flash game.
I was always cool with that, so long as it remained in the background.

That said: what other islands were there? The wiki is impossible to follow.

>>24287475
There was Metru Nui, which was the 'brain'.
Uh... Voya Nui which apparently floats about inside the robot or something, Mahri Nui which is part of VN. Then there's um... that place where the original toa team shows up that's like the central core of the giant robot and after that we aren't on islands anymore.

I, too, am okay with robogod. But I'd prefer to have the series stay tiki tiki. And if Mata Nui wakes up and gets up, I'd like to think that he'd give plenty of warning and probably remake the island that was destroyed by his awakening because Mata Nui is a bro as has already been established.

>>24276140
This, it kinda destroys that special 'feeling' the original line invokes because it's taken as a part of the whole 'saga' instead of a standalone setting.

>>24287669

Voya Nui is "above" Karda Nui, which is Mata Nui's heart.

Mata Nui woke up and was immediately kicked out of the universe by Makuta, who then got off Aqua Magna, the planet the robot crash-landed on way back when he was put to sleep.

Mata Nui, whose soul was trapped in the Mask of Life, was flung across the outside-the-robot universe and landed on Bara Magna, formerly part of Spherus Magna. The Bara Magna story year was basically "we Dark Sun now", with Mata Nui adopting Toa form, doing some gladiator shit, and eventually getting hold of one of the Great Beings' discarded bodies.

Makuta, in Mata Nui's old body, comes to Bara Magna to finish everything. Mata Nui, in a damaged Great Being body, fights him. Makuta almost wins, and then has the back of his head sheared off by one of Bara Magna's moons.

The inhabitants of the Mata Nui interior come out of the wreck and make new lives on Bara Magna. Mata Nui's Great Being body gives out, and he retreats into the Mask of Life, then goes dormant, telling the Toa that they're where they belong now, his job is done, and it's time for him to let them live their own lives.

>>24289192
Why couldn't they just live peacefully on Mata-Nui island ;_; ?

>>24287475
Metru Nui: Highest population of Matoran, built over the CPU of Mata Nui.
Voya Nui: A piece of an unnamed southern continent that broke off and drifted to the surface.
Artidax: Volcanic hellhole island containing the prison of the first leader of the Makuta, Miserix.
Stelt: Home of the species of Krekka and Sidorak.
Xia: Home of Roodaka's species, the Vortixx. It has a sapient mountain that eats people, and the Vortixx climb it as a rite of manhood IIRC.
Atarkha: Paradise land, named after it's craftsman-king.
Karzhani: Shithole dystopia, named after its really bad craftsman-king. Was destroyed.
Zakaz: Home of the Piraka's species, the Skakdi. Mostly desert.
Odina: Headquarters of the Dark Hunters.
Nynrah: Home of the master craftsmatorans, the Nynrah Ghosts.
Karda Nui: The "heart" of Mata Nui, big place deep underground. If he is up and active, it's pretty much a perpetual lightning storm.
Daxia: HQ of the Order of Mata Nui,
Destral: HQ of the Brotherhood of Makuta.
Visorak: Land where the Visorak come from, duh.
Tren Krom's Island: Home of resident lovecraftian abomination, Tren Krom.
The Pit: Big jail where the Order of Mata Nui keeps bad guys.
Keetongu's Island: Island where Keetongu lives, obviously.

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Fuck, forgot picture.
>>24289258
Because the Mata Nui robot that generates it was broken. Besides, a single island wouldn't have enough room for all the dudes everywhere.

>>24289288
But why couldn't we forget the shitty gladiator line and just have Mata-nui remain as some un-bodied spirit which brought peace and prosperity? ;_;

>>24289258

Mata Nui island is gone. It was a rock formation over the face of Mata Nui after he crashed down in the Great Cataclysm when Makuta Teridax put him to sleep.

After the Toa Nuva went back to Metru Nui, they wound up actually having to go back to Mata Nui and awaken the Bohrok. The Bohrok hive is within the boundaries of the robot itself, rather than in the island over the face. The purpose of the Bohrok was as a safeguard against Mata Nui getting embedded in stuff, like the crust of a planet. They had to purge everything on the now-evacuated Mata Nui and turn it into barren earth, then loosen that up so Mata Nui could awaken.

The island of Mata Nui was not supposed to exist, in the Great Beings' design. It formed by accident, when Mata Nui crashed into the planet and leaked energized protodermis all over his face, giving it the bizarre biomes and rich life it had.

The island has been destroyed entirely. It no longer exists.

>>24289380
I know that, what I meant to say was that the whole Bara magna stuff was stupid as fuck. It would've been much better if Mata nui was just awakened and brought peace throughout the island.

>>24289430

But then Makuta doesn't get to "win".

>>24289461
How did he win currently? By destroying the big MN? That's quite spiteful really, and surprisingly in character.

>>24289487
He "won" by succeeding in his plan, and taking control over his body. It didn't matter though because he ended up dying before he could use it to conquer other worlds like he planned.

>>24289487

He won by taking over the body entirely. Mata Nui's spirit was shot into the Mask of Life and ejected from the body completely. Makuta took control. That was his plan, and it succeeded perfectly.

The only flaw was a failure to plan for what would happen AFTER the plan.

I have to admit, having the Makuta actually win was pretty interesting.

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>>24289288
That's such an awkward map.

I think if it were up to me, I'd cherry pick some aspects of the later stuff, but keep it as 'mythology'.

Mata Nui stays asleep. At least until some kind of ragnarok scenario.

Ignore most of the Matoran reincarnation stuff.
Retain some of the good stuff inside Mata Nui.

Keep it mainly about the Toa Mata's adventures on Mata Nui and the surrounding archipelago.

Disregard the White Power Range- I mean Toa of Light

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyZS3BCnw8w

The first two minutes of this are all you need to know.

>>24289659
So, wait. I didn't keep up with stuff in Bara Magna (despite thinking it was conceptually cool and really enjoying the kits that came out) but at the end what happened after that?

>>24289998
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNx-zQDXRY4

>>24289998

Well, it's like I said earlier: Makuta Teridax took over Mata Nui's body, booted Mata Nui out in the Mask of Life. The Mask fell on Bara Magna, and Mata Nui tapped into its power to give himself a toa-like body.

This was after Teridax (the same Makuta we've all known since BIONICLE started) killed the entire Brotherhood of Makuta shortly before his ascension, leaving himself as the only Makuta remaining, to ensure nobody would challenge his rule. With complete dominion of the interior of the robot -- and thus complete dominion of the Matoran universe, though not the universe outside the Matoran universe -- he took off from the surface of Aqua Magna to test its limits, and realized that the Mask of Life hadn't just fucked off to nowhere, so he had to track it down and finally kill Mata Nui.

A bunch of online serials involved various Toa groups trying to stop Makuta, with no success. How can you strike down a malevolent god at full power? Makuta only beat Mata Nui through a 100,000 year long plan that slowly sapped his power without him realizing it, then finally dropping him into a coma in a single swift coup.

On Bara Magna, Mata Nui found the Glatorian and the Agori, other creations of the Great Beings. Unlike the Matoran, these life-forms were mostly organic. The Agori are Matoran equivalents, sort of; villagers on the enormous desert planet that is Bara Magna, after Spherus Magna's destruction and the Great Beings' disappearance.

Because resources are scarce but nobody wants to waste them on all-out war, villages handle disputes by having Glatorian (basically Toa, but more morally grey) represent them in single combat. Duels are typically until one yields, rather than to the death. Glatorian are well-paid for their services.

Mata Nui and several Glatorian fought to survive on Bara Magna for a while, and hunt down a way for Mata Nui to get back to his original body.

>>24290384

They managed to find a prototype of Mata Nui's body, which had, unbeknownst to anyone, been scattered in enormous parts across the landscape, as big funky-shaped structures and stuff. Uniting all the villages, Mata Nui managed to put the robot back together and take control of it.

Just in time for Makuta to show up. They fought hand-to-hand, and Makuta won, but before he could strike the final blow, one of Bara Magna's moons ripped the back off of the head of the Makuta-controlled robot, and with it the control center beneath Metru Nui. Makuta was finally well and truly killed.

Mata Nui went dormant, but not before channeling the Mask of Life's power to turn Bara Magna's wasteland into a verdant paradise.

That's really the conclusion of the plot, and the line. There've been some other stories on BIONICLEStory.com, but they're just side stories with new character, expanded universe stuff on the new Bara Magna.

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>>24275809
>implying chainsaw skates are not objectively the coolest thing ever
Your existence makes me a little sad. I hope someone buys you chainsaw skates for Christmas, I really do.

>>24290905
Man, and I though stormtrooper helmets had a restrictive view...

>>24290905
>implying that chainsaw shurikens aren't the coolest thing ever
Do you even chain?

Am I the only one who didn't even realise there was actually a story for Bionicles until they got to /tg/?

>>24275936
If you want to really learn about bionicle, disregard anything you already know and go play MNOLG in one sitting

Rolled 14

>>24293613
And mnog 2. If you can find it.
Can someone find it? The nostalgia won't go until I play it

>>24293623
http://bionicleonlinegamesarchive.weebly.com/the-online-games.html

captcha: nowtyme bends

>>24292076
Did you never visit the lego site? Did you even look at the back of the instructions?

>>24293623
It wasn't as good as the first. You have to fucking grind like hell unless you use cheats to get anywhere or win anything.

How come this site hasn't been linked yet?
http://biomediaproject.com/bmp/

It has loads of bionicle media, games, commercials, flash animations and more.

>>24289261
>>24289288
Okay, so WHY are there islands inside the giant robot? Wouldn't you want your internal repair crew to know that there's actually something they're supposed to be REPAIRING?

>>24294678
I thought that did get linked....
Oh well, linking it again doesn't do any harm.

>>24287173
Guy who made the rewrite of the canon here:
My plan was that all the canon islands would be on the surface of Aqua Magna, except:
>Metru Nui, which would be an island in a huge underground sea/lake in a large cavern, converted into a temple-city to Mata Nui by Matoran who wanted to escape the harsh surface world
>Karda Nui, similar to Metru Nui but with more extreme terrain and stuff like the Codrex

Bara Magna and Bota Magna would have been very large continents, far away from the rest of the islands.

>>24295193
Great Beings were retards
No it's literally canon, they made a fuckton of terrible choices

They wanted to:
1. Make a giant robot
2. Make an artificial world and populate it with beings of their own creation, to see if it would work

Then a Great Being said "why not do both at the same time?"

Hence the Matoran Universe

>>24289261
I'm extremely confused about The Pit. I swear it was never explained properly.

Was The Pit on the Southern Continent, and got blasted up out of the Matoran Universe and onto Aqua Magna along with Voya Nui?

Or was it always on the ocean bed of Aqua Magna? Inwhich case Botar's teleportation ability is fucking insane if he was capable of teleporting from the Matoran Universe, in space, to another planet, and then back again.

>>24296073
All the more reason to rewrite canon, in my opinion. If you like the idea that the Creators were very incompetent, then that's the kind of story you like and that is fine.
But it's not the kind of story that appeals to me.

>>24296146
The pit was a jail that collapsed and flood. It's located under Voya Nui. Aqua magna was the planet which the matoran universe was on, apart from the land masses above mata nui's body, the entire planet was a single sea.

Also, the kanohi Olmak was able to teleport you anywhere, including other dimensions.

>>24296583
I know this. My question is, was it always on Aqua Magna, or did it exit the Matoran Universe along with Voya Nui?

Also Botar does not where a Kanohi Olmak. His teleportation is racial.

>>24296721
I think the pit remained on aqua magna until the planets rejoined, but it collapsed onto the planet during the cataclysm

And Botars species could teleport anywhere in the universe, even places they had not been before.

Bohrak and Rahkshi are the coolest things ever. I think I still have that rahi book somewhere, too...

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Seeing all this Onua talk, here is model I made three years ago. Used original mask. cause Nuva one was fucking disaster.

/toy/--->

>>24297592
You're not a real onua fan for changing his eye color

>>24298410
who care about the eye (and brain) color? the mask is what matter most.
>>24298289
troll pls go. i am waiting for the wargame

>>24298410
I am not, indeed. But I think that mask is his signature, and combined with saw makes for neat effect, like it blends the difference between the Mata and Nuva versions.

>>24297592
Seriously, what was up with the Toa Nuva masks?
And the weird rubbery material they were made out of?

I pretty much bought Onua Nuva and then cannibalised it for parts to improve the original - used the armour, kept the claws and the mask.

Which reminds me, why were there so few masks?
I'd have considered buying some of those mask packs if they were more than just recoloured versions of the Toa and Turaga masks.

If I were to run a Bionicle campaign, I'd probably make up a bunch more. Maybe some with weaker powers for the Matoran to use. They make nice MacGuffins for adventuring.

>>24298642
In the cannon all matoran masks were powerless. Also I'd recommend checking the wiki if you want some more ideas for masks.

>>24298661
Yeah, fuck that. The masks are too cool a concept to restrict to the Toa and Turaga alone.

>>24298703
no, that was the point of matorans. they must use the masks to live, but cant use their powers

>>24298642
there are many masks. about 40-50 great, and the same amout of noble. there were also 42 types of karna (that are organic masks), 6 nuva masks, 6 karna-kals, and many more (the masks of wisdom and valor, the masks of time, life and creation...)

>>24298642
Well there were some special coloured masks. I got an infected Tahu mask, black with red and orange spots. Was really great finding that thing.

>>24298930
i got one with one of the rahi sets. looks neat

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Came here from another thread, what do you think about a bionicle tabletop? I was thinking some of the species the players could choose from could be:
Toa
Matoran
Skakdi
Vortixx
Zyglak
Makuta
Vorox
Skrall
Agori
Zesk
Bone Hunters

>>24299399
bone hunters?

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>>24299438
http://bionicle.wikia.com/wiki/Bone_Hunter

>>24299399
half of these are non-player species (Makuta, Vortixx) or the organic species. no one like the organic species.
also, if you will read the hread, you will see that there is a matoran rpg and a wargame on the way

>>24299399
Is this an idea similar to the RPG, or something completely different, I'm not sure I understand.

>>24299528
who? when? where?
i must know!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CIJ_MjIOHM

>>24299399
Suggestions:

Toa Hordika

Sidorak's species (Stelt upper-class)

Krekka's species (Stelt worker class)

Keetongu

Generic 'titan' species, for characters like Axonn and Brutaka and Dark Hunters, who all seem to be fairly large

General rules for aquatic/amphibious Bionicle, ala Barraki, Ehlek's species, Nocturn's species

Rahkshi? Might not be intelligent enough to be players

Visorak? They were rahi but highly intelligent: they had their own language and each sub-species were good at certain things (grunt work, leadership, etc.)


Glatorian (species): Quite a lot of the glatorian are implied to be members of their own species, which are like larger, stronger agori, meaning that glatorian isn't a job title alone

>>24299643
I listed all the sapient species.

>>24299643
>Keetongu
there is only one
>Sidorak's species (Stelt upper-class)
>Krekka's species (Stelt worker class)
we only saw one.

and god dammit guys, no one like the sci fi shit

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How do alternate universe beings get handled?

>>24299533
I was thinking about starting with the Core War.

>>24299671
No you didn't.

Toa Hordika could be argued to be their own species, but fair enough you listed toa

While Krekka and Sidorak's species haven't been named they are official and confirmed as intelligent.

Keetongu rahi are highly intelligent, likely to a point of (near-) matoran level intelligence.

Ehlek is confirmed to belong to a large species which is aquatic (or maybe amphibious, can't really remember). Then there's aquatic characters affected by water borne mutagen, but fair enough if you didn't list that seeing as it's not a true species

Rahkshi are shown to be pretty damn intelligent

Visorak are sapient, just aggressive

Glatorian are a species.

And we both forgot Botar's species (confirmed to be a species, more than one member seen) and turaga.

>>24299710
>Only one Keetongu
There is only one left by the time of the Metru Nui storyline, but there was a species. Statting one up wouldn't hurt, as their playability would depend on when a GM is setting a Bionicle campaign.

>Only one of Sidorak and Krekka's species
Only two named characters. Confirmed as species and multiple appear in character's backstories and the online/book stories.

>>24299767
I mean, what kind of game will it be?

Little update on the matoran rpg (the one that was on the three lest threads)- I'm half way there. If there will be no surprises, it will be playable by Sunday, and I will open a quest

>>24299871
Awesome dude, looking forward to it.

Are you statting up enemies aswell? I need some rahi to throw bamboo disks at.

>>24299944
Well, I did made some enemy rahi and other creatures (I can't tell what, cause it will be a spoiler, but nothing after the bohrok kal) and some weapons, but nothing that I can show yet

>>24299772
I listed the Glatorian races, you got me on sidorak, for Keetongu I guess it depends on which timeline you play in so before the Visorak invasion, Rahkshi are just kraana in suits of armor, yo got me on Botar, and I don't see how anyone could play as a Turaga.

>>24300261
A turaga doesn't just have to be the village elder. He's the experienced warrior who's fought coutlless battles before or the returning hero who still has fight left in him.Although he may be as physically weak as a matoran he controls his element and has at least 1 mask.

>>24300261
>Glatorian races
There are two meanings of Glatorian:
>The profession
>The species

Agori, skrall, zesk, vorox and in rare cases bone hunters can be glatorian by profession, but most glatorian belong to an actual glatorian species: all the 2009 cannister sets other than the two skrall, the vorox and Mata Nui are members of the glatorian species.

Turaga wouldn't be that disadvantaged compared to matoran. They're slower and maybe weaker, but they have minor elemental powers, noble mask powers and years of experience from their times as toa. Basically what >>24300343 said.

>>24296073
>2. Make an artificial world and populate it with beings of their own creation, to see if it would work

Wait, the occupants of the matoran universe were intended to be created? I thought that when the Mata Nui robot crashed into the planet, resulting Protodermis tidal waves covered him, thus forming biomechanical islands, vegetation, and creatures/inhabitants?

>>24301323
The matoran are (compared to mata nui) nanomachines that run his body.

>>24298442
the pakari is probably the most overused mask among depictions of matoran and rahi. it is not unique to onua, unfortunately. including the same eye color atleast makes him accurate/recognizable

cool MOC still

>>24301323
The Matoran Universe is inside Mata Nui. It's a small world consisting of several island archipelagos, a few individual islands and two large continents. Many of the inhabitants were created and put there by the Great Beings during Mata Nui's construction, while others (such as the Makuta) were created by Mata Nui himself after he woke, and some in turn were then created by species in the Matoran Universe (all rahi are created by the Brotherhood of Makuta).

The island Mata Nui is Mata Nui's camaflouge system. When he lies down on a planet to oberve it, and island or large mountain or other geographical feature is generated to cover his face. When he crash landed, the camaflouge system worked, but damage to Mata Nui meant that energised protodermis leaked onto the island. This caused the varying landscape and flora, and *some* rahi. However, all the turaga, matoran and the vast majority of rahi living on the island of Mata Nui got there by evacuating Mata Nui's body and setting up on the island.

Keep in mind that most inhabitants of the Matoran Universe didn't know they were living in a giant robot until the end of the series.

>>24301443
The rahi were made by the makuta.

>>24301484
Unless you count some organic sea life which seems to be native to Aqua Magna, such as the life sucking squid and other animals in the Barraki's armies.

Technically they're not rahi but they were considered rahi by characters in 2007 because they wouldn't know of anything animal-y which wasn't a rahi.

>>24301540
I thought Mata Nui was created to explore and observe the galaxy?

>>24302119
Yes, but he was a dual experiment.

The first purpose of the experiment was to explore and observe the universe.

The other was the Great Being's attempt to see if they could create a working world, which they decided to incorporate into the giant robot as his inner-workings, with the inhabitants of said world maintaining him.

The Matoran Universe is inside Mata Nui. All the islands are inside him, except Mata Nui which is his camaflouge system, and Voya Nui which is a part of the Southern Continent that broke out of his chest when he crashed.

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>>24302246
did the great beings create the mata nui vessel, and his spirit too? or is his spirit that of a great being or something?

>>24303825
The great beings laid the foundations and made the matoran finish the rest

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>>24286197
The Toa are gonna combine?

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I'm gonna make this my new terrain project.

It's perfect.

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>>>24286197
>The Toa are gonna combine?

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>>24299528
>>24307442
>>24307456
>>24307480
>>24307497
>>24307509
>>24307539
>>24307593
>>24307622
there are no words...

>>24307747
I wonder what Onua's thinking when they combine like that.
>Aw fuck, I gotta be the hand again. I hope Tahu doesn't decide to jerk off again, fucking asshole.

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>Hey lawbreakers
>lawbreakers
>law

>Not a Judge Dredd thread
>It is now

I AM THE LAAAAW

>>24307817
hah! glad i'm not near-close with that firespitter

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>>24308087
>Remember
>Turaga Dume sees all
>you can't run from the law
>this is a bionicle thread

Toa Ignika and Toa Mata Nui are different guys, right?

>>24307509
You'd think the Rakshi would be more appropriate. Still cool though

>>24311149
>toa mata nui
Wat.
But the toa mata and the toa ignika are not the same. Mata were born toa, ignika were once matorans.

>>24311653
he meant the individual characters
to my understanding, "toa ignika" was a toa incarnation of the mask of life, and toa mata nui was mata nui's spirit in a toa's body that happened to also wear the mask of life?

>>24311973
They're sorta the same body.

Basically, imagine a brain. The brain has no body, and thus makes a body to reside in. Then his brain gets taken out of his body, and gets possessed by demons. The demon-brain builds a new body to put himself in. Are those two dudes the same?

everyone always acts like 2003 was one of the best years, but i'm still pissed that they never released rebuilt matoran onepu/ nuparu and kongu/ tamaru

>>24312121

Yeah.
It's a shame how little matoran sets were released in general.

>>24307688
>>24307747
Nuju says "They shall merge their skills, their knowledge, their wills to become Wisdom and Valor, named in prophecy Wairuha and Akamai."
"In these forms, they are the Toa Kaita. The Toa Kaita will, at last, confront the Makuta."

>Toa Kaita part of ancient prophecy
>They actually have names
>Find out that EVERYBODY can Kaita
>themagicisgone.gif

>>24314588
The matorans were the best beings in the bionicle universe. They fight against mind controlled giant animals (just look at the size if a rahi vs the size of a matoran) swarm of elemental monsters that can also fly, take controll over your body and can kill you in one hit, even without their powers, and survived things like the infected kohlii balls. And the best thing? They won. Without any toa. They tamed the birds and the crabs. They made the METAL BOXORS. Dammit, seven matoran Saved the toa mata! And they don't even have mask power, or effective elemental powers.
They are the heroes of bionicle. And they get so little from Lego.
Sad, isn't it?

>>24315868
But big heroes sell, no one wants to buy little babies.

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>>24316232
Tell that to every IG player.

>>24312121
>>24314588
>>24315868
>>24316232
Hnng I wish Lego had done what they did with 2001/2002 and release two or three matoran of every element, instead of onl yone and occasionally another in a titan set.

Metru Nui was meant to be matoran central, and we only got six sets.

Mahri Nui was an all time low. Only four matoran sized set and only two of those were actually matoran. True, there were two matoran in the kahzarni set, but they're not exactly easy to obtain.

I wish in 2008 they had atleast released matoran for the Mistika rather than just the Phantoka.

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reminds me I still have my old brickshelf up from when I was like 17
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=229068
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=280006

>>24316336
But that would require more work! And as we can clearly see by the toy designs of that era, the name of the game was "easy like sunday morning"

>>24316336
>>24317770
I'm considering buying a bunch of Metru Nui matoran bodies and a few masks so I can make some matoran. I have plenty of Bohrok legs and those little grey legs which a lot of sets use so hopefully I'll be able to make some matoran.

Pity there's a lack of unusual colours for those matoran bodies. I know you can get silver ones in addition to the six basic colours, but it would be cool if there were colours like gold, purple and orange for the creation of more unusual elements (psionics, gravity, plasma, etc.)

>>24318338
They don't exist because the other tribes only exist in the fluff.

>>24318452
Technically speaking a Toa of Magnetism has appeared in set form. Toa Jovan is a toa of magnetism, and his set is made by combing Nuparu and Hewki (2006). He became the turaga of the part of the Southern Continent which would become Voya Nui, but he died in the Great Cataclysm.

Also all the matoran in 2009 are light matoran or light matoran corrupted into shadow matoran. Bionmicle just got lazy with their characters apparently.


And Toa Krakua, a toa of sound, has an official set, but it was created by a fan for a competition so it can't exactly be built.

>>24318618
Then it's not exactly an official set, is it?
Obviously I didn't know about Jovan, but I stopped following Bionicle in a serious way after the Hordika thing. The only way I knew what the story was doing was because I kept getting the comics with the Lego Magazine.

>>24258454
fuck, and I had shit to do today, too/

>>24318866
Not anymore you don't, bitch!

>>24316336
so did lego ever have a justification for why the matoran of metru nui, voya nui, mahri nui, karda nui, etc had different builds? they went to a pretty big extent when the tohunga got rebuilt into their new forms, but i don't recall ever seeing justification for why the legions of other matoran had different bodies.

>>24319044
The matoran of metru nui were the "true matoran" in a sense. The matoran of mata nui were mutated by being in the pods, the matoran of voya nui had been badly rebuilt by Karzhani, the matoran of mahri nui were mutated by the mutagen of the pit. I'm not sure about karda nui. It might be due to them being av-matoran, but I don't know.

>>24319044
Yes, yes they did. The Metru Nui build is supposedly the original default shape. However, robots break. So they get sent to the repair shop.
Unfortunately, the man running the repair shop couldn't fix his glued-together fingers, so the repair shop became known as hell because no one who goes there ever comes back.
Of course, they DO eventually leave, but they are horribly disfigured, aka the Voya and Mahri Nui builds.
Karda Nui: no fucking clue, maybe the Light matoran just were made differently.

>>24319044
True matoran are those who appear on Metru Nui. Presumabely most matoran around the universe appear like that.

The original Mata Nui (2001 and 2002) matoran appeared like that because the Makuta forced them into poorly constructed stasis pods, which made their bodies shrink.

The 2003 matoran were, as you said, the tohunga matoran rebuilt with pieces of bohrok.

The 2006 matoran had been damaged in the distant past, and shoddily repaired by Kahzarni, who had then sent them to Voya Nui to hide his shame. This is why they appeared very hunched over with gangly arms.

The 2007 matoran were 2006 matoran who had been mutated by water borne mutagen into a partially water breathing state. A mix of the mutation and presumabaly them rebuilding theirselves slightly (the Mahri Nui matoran appeared to have developed technology more advanced than that of those on Voya Nui) is the cause of their appearance.

Karda Nui matoran has a few reasons:
Av-Matoran were the matoran prototypes, hence why they were slightly different to others.
The shadow matoran were mutated by the draining of their moral light and their Makuta masters experimenting on them, causing them to mutate into their bat-like monstrous forms.
Karda Nui was full of volatile energy which caused most matoran exposed to it to grow slightly. A matoran will shrink back to the standard size after they have been away from Karda Nui for a while.

In /tg/'s opinion, who were the best villains?

For me, obviously Makuta No.1, but I really liked the Barraki aswell. Mutated paranoid warlords commanding armies of sea creatures and terrified that the other five are out to kill them are awesome.

I really liked the skrall and bohrok though.

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>>24320232
"you cannot defeat me, for i am nothing"
The makuta of mata nui, tg best villain in bionicle.
After that, there are the rahkshi and the bohrok kal

>>24320527
>that feel when you can't get a high res version of this for a wallpaper.

>>24320628
Damn...

>>24320628
You can do a screenshot while playing the mnog. That should be good enough

>>24320698
My screen is much MUCH bigger than it is, and I don't want it all pixel-y.
>whine whine bitch

>>24320757
Isn't it a flash game?

The graphics should be vector, so it won't go pixel-y.

>>24320809
>tells me something I didn't know before
I....
I have to go do something.....

>>24320856
Do post it here when you're done, anon.

>>24320698
Theres apparently a fan made sequel.

>>24321196
There is an non-fanmade sequel that I know of.

>>24320232
I really liked the piraka for the fact that they were honestly the first non-swarm villains that came in canisters, like anti-toa. The only others that came close previously were the bohrok-kal.

The swarm enemies were still well done, with the bohrok having the hivemind alien feel, the vahki as fanatical dystopian enforcers, and the visorak being the most insect-like.

The titan villains were also always cool, such as the dark hunters that defeated toa by trolling them into play mistakes, roodaka's cutthroat rise to power and attempt to usurp sidorak, and of course all the titans who devoutly guarded the mask of life

>>24320232
The barraki weren't the only ones that acted like that; the piraka did too. Also, the makutas from the 2008 arc thought teaming up was pointless because they knew teridax didnt care about them, making either course of action a lose-lose situation. I liked that reason why the villains never could hold victory for long was because they were always at eachothers' throats. they always had the power to defeat the toa, but never the unity to do it. reminds me of plato's justice argument

united villains> united toa> divided villains> divided toa, but the united villains wouldnt be possible

>>24321666
The titans as a whole were sweet. The combinations made from the titan are even more sweet.

My favorite was the giant dragon made from vezzon & fenrak, axxon, and brutaka.

>>24321808
>>24321808
aww yisss i can make that one, its awesome
at one point it fought the tahtorak

Anyone have a link to those stop motions which someone posted on one of the other threads? One had Matoro fighting a piraka and one had Lhikan fighting some Dark Hunters.

Also, any links to other cool Bionicle stop motions? Fights? Series?

How are the movies appreciated around here? Are they absolute shit or is it okay to like them? I just watched the first one and MUH NOSTALGIA

>>24322254
General opinion seems to be it's fine to like them but they're not really that good.

I like them quite a lot to be honest.

>>24322254

I rewatched the first one for shits and giggles a while back, and I was kinda bothered by some of the shit in the ending

>Gather the turaga and the matoran and wait for my return
>Two minutes later, all the turaga are there
First off, how big is Mata Nui again?
Second, how did they get six people from six different regions together in about two minutes?

>Later on, they enter the cave and Makuta blows the entrance
>"Lol they trapped forever here now," or something

Or they could just pick through the rubble?

>Open the door thing to Metru Nui
>Required Taka Nuva + Makuta to get it open, and killed them in the process
>Only two other matoran with them, and the turaga

So wait, are they trapped for good now? The shit.

And I recall a few lip synchronization issues in the second one. Don't remember much of the third other than Roodaka's voice.

Damn that woman's voice, gets me hard every time.

>>24322336

Plot holes, lots of them. Good thing I was a kid on first few thousand watches so none of that bothered me.

By the way does Lewa have a speech quirk in the original? He talks kinda oddly in the Finnish one. Or maybe I just missed parts of his speech since the sound of the video was super-low. Must watch the DVD tomorrow to be sure.