The old thread autosaged, so let's get a new one going because we have no idea when Viral will get done with his PROMOTIONS.http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/viralgames/engine-heart-is-coming-to-a-store-near-youKickstarter's up. Get shit done, /tg/.
Paper bots reporting in
http://vocaroo.com/i/s15myuYU9laYAny love for robo-synth voices? Took one of the default ones from fruity loops and sent it across my arduino and through some miscellaneous sound chips to make it more lo-fi, then brought it back into fruity loops and gave it some resonance.It's a subtle difference.
Son, are you jerking off to underage robot girls again?Or is this a different /tg/ homebrew than the one I'm thinking of?
I'm rearing to motor, fellas!
>>24265976This one's the dystopian brave little toaster/wall-e/you get the idea game.Play as small helpless robots in a future without humans to guide them anymore.
>>24266149Danbo statted yet?
Oh hey just gonna check /tg/ real quick-like>scroll scroll scrollHey what's going on in this thread
Give me a sec to re-install illustrator, I'm going to make some stuff.
>>24267559no, but if you do the kickstarter and pick one of the rewards where viral designs a bot for you, you could ask for an official danbo.
http://archive.foolz.us/tg/thread/24212143Here's the first thread, by the way.>somebody just bought a second $500 bookI gotta update that battery meter again...
>>242679722 dollars shy of 6kok, come on. someone out there needs to donate 2 bucks.
Today's Adventure time was pretty Engine Heart-ish Lost BMO trying to get home.
The second part of In Transit is all ready to go as soon as we hit the $6,000 mark!>>24268382I am so behind on AT.
>>24268515That's a shame
>>24268562The last one I watched was All the Little People.
>>24265976I'd like to know what this is all about...Was there a lolibot homebrew that I missed?
>>24269160Engine Heart: Lolibot Meido editionnew stretch goalwrite that down son
>>24269160I believe he may have been referring to this old system some people were trying to make that was about sex robots fighting.
SNIPED THAT 2 DOLLARS
>>24269277Oh, right, Stripped Gears. I drew a picture for that!>>24269320OH SHIT IT'S HAPPENING
IN TRANSIT PT. 2: UNLOCKED!BATTERY STATUS: 80% CHARGED!CAPSLOCK KEY: STUCK ON FULL-AUTO!
>>24267789Sorry it took so long, forgot how many hoops you have to jump through to re install the damn thing.
Here's $500. Are we cool for that horrible thing I did that one time now?
>>24269542Where did you get five hundred dollars?
So one of my friends just made a cleaning robot with an internal incinerator and he's calling himself "Mecha Hitler reincarnated as a Roomba" and has the intense need to "cleanse" thingsThis is amazing
>>24269831WOULDN'T BE THE FIRST TIME.
Well, I convinced the second $500 backer to spend their money on food instead of robots, so we're back to $5,610.I AM NOT REVOKING THE $6,000 UNLOCKED PRIZE.
>>24268685Oh, the one about porn addiction? I liked that one
>>24270019>spend money on food instead of robotsWeird. There are all these words, but when you put them together it makes no sense.
how goes the kickstartering Viral?
>>24270216Well, we were at $5,500.Then we were at $6,000.Now we're at $5,610.
>>24270260if I had money I would help you, maybe I can talk to some of the people in my gaming group about backing it
I backed at 99, because reasons.
>>24270338I'd rather people spread the word around than spend money they can't afford to blow on stuff like this.
Will there be more of the 99E9F0 tier if it runs out? Maybe at a higher price?
I want to pledge for $45 but I have no funds
Just threw in $50. Hope it helps
>>24270431pft, do you even know where you are? By rights I can't "afford" half the /tg/ shit I've bought.
>>24270431Character Generator Guy here, how did the rough copy work?Gonna start on Features and Defects now and then work on actually making it pretty. Also do you guys prefer a Microsoft or Open Office format?I would make a page but once again, since I do not know what new material would bring I'm keeping it simple and easily modified with future content.
>>24271420I thought I had OpenOffice, but I don't, apparently, and Excel claims that there are errors in the file... so, not sure?I can get it if people like what you're doing in it.
>>24271482It's not a problem to port it to Excel but the file formats don't like each other, I just understand not everyone has a copy of Office to work with and wanted to make it so it wasn't necessary to get the use of it since OpenOffice is a free program that does pretty much the same shit at the slight of being ever so slightly less user friendly.Give a sec and I'll port it and post a link to my dropbox.
>>24265881>>24265894>>24265920Reminds me of this.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CccPPDe2JU
Well, I've gotten over the lurch of seeing the KS drop back below 6k, but we're moving back toward it (again)!>>24271659Neat!
>>24271729Hopefully you won't have to wait until the traditional 72-hour Kickstarter push to meet goals, some projects can back down into the doldrums between the first three days when they're started and the first three days when they end because people don't shout about them enough.
Oh hey, what's this?
>>24272976wow what steep competition there
Here's Mr. ZipHe's a courier bot.
>>24273898Lots of parts compared to the other two designs, but I wanted to go for something a little more dynamic.
I need a papercraft model of a dirty, broken microwave with an empty box of hot pockets inside and spindly tripod legs.Because reasons.
>>24273890>>24273898You are so awesome!
>>24265920As a complete papercraft noob, never made anything in my life, how would I even begin to make this? Can I get a youtube video showing how the parts go together? What do the toothed parts on the hip joint do?
>>24273989for some odd reason, my camera won't macro focus now. Anyway, the toothed pars are tabs. They bend back allowing you to put glue on them and adhere the curved section of paper to it to make the half cylinder shape you see on the red bot here. Parts marked as layering are optional.
>>24273976The battery charging bot on the sheet Viral gave me looks sort of like this, though it has wheels instead of tripodal legs. No empty hot pocket box though.
>>24273890>>24273898Mr. Zip!Awesome!>less than $200 from hitting $6,000 (again)Whoo-hoo!
Now that we've got the dealer-level backer tiers, we've had to stop adding stores to the Big List. Unfortunately, that hasn't stopped people from asking me if I can contact their store and get them to partner up, but I don't really like the idea of cold-mailing stores to tell them to back this KS.SOOOO... here's the dealer poster that the stores already on the Big List got. The QR code directs you to the Engine Heart KS page. If your store isn't on the list but you'd like to see Engine Heart on their shelves, give them a copy of the poster and let them know about the dealer tiers.
>>24276894Sorrry about the delay, me and my ISP had it out last night so I couldn't most V0.2Features and Defects is on it's way but here is the slightly prettier attribute page for the moment.
>>24277306and then I forgot the linkhttps://www.dropbox.com/s/qsiezkm5l2qus8m/Engine%20Heart%20Character%20Generator%20V0.2.xlsx
>>24277320Ugh, damn nevermind. I missed the formula on a couple. Have to update, I'll see if I have time before I go to work.
>>24277306>>24277320>>24277359Ha ha... no problems. I'll check it out in a little bit.
Being featured on the Staff Picks seems to be helping out a lot - we're only $115 away from where we used to be!I'd better get writing. In Transit is almost complete, and I've started work on the KS-exclusive minimod. The KS-only one will be the minimod with the Special Guest Appearances by the ten bots made for the Robot Roll Call (which are sadly all gone!)>>24270661>Will there be more of the 99E9F0 tier if it runs out? Maybe at a higher price?Uhhh... I don't know! There are only two left, which is pretty shocking to me. Honestly, this whole thing is pretty shocking to me. I was expecting this to flop, but it's been on fire since it launched. The Staff Picks thing is just chrome on the casing.
>>24277714Any chance we can get a hint at the context of the exclusive minimod? I got Robot Roll Call, but I kinda feel like a dick just making whatever bot and you are forced to fit it into the scene. I'd like to make something that can sorta fit.
>>24277394Ok, now the first part is done. I forgot to convert the formulas for the compiled attributes like Speed when I moved it over and noticed it right after I posted it.https://www.dropbox.com/s/qsiezkm5l2qus8m/Engine%20Heart%20Character%20Generator%20V0.2.xlsx
>>24277714I'm backing on that tier too (Generator guy)I'm thinking a UAV News Bot that has basically taken on a highly corrupted personality and now is reporting on all the robots gone mad whilst using powerful search lights and optics to highlight robots it finds out the predators in the area.But yeah, context would be nice...
>>24277792There's one problem I'd definitely suggest fixing. When your robot is size 1 you get a +1 to dexterity, and when your robot is size 5, you get a +1 to strength.
>>24277780>Any chance we can get a hint at the context of the exclusive minimod? I got Robot Roll Call, but I kinda feel like a dick just making whatever bot and you are forced to fit it into the scene. I'd like to make something that can sorta fit.>>24277812>But yeah, context would be nice...I don't want to say anything until the secret stuff is finalized... but don't worry about trying to make a robot that fits the scene. Just make a robot that you like!>>24277792>>24277812Thanks a million for doing this! I can't code for beans (aside from basic HTML I taught myself to make Geocities pages back in the day), so it's great that we're getting a bot-maker.
OHHHHHHHHHHH SHITSIX BUCKS AWAY FROM 6K MK. 2!
>>24277980CRACKED THE 6K MARKAGAIN
>want to buy the $99 tier>only one left>don't get paid until friday
>>24278880You are not paying ANYTHING until the 12th of May. You can pledge whatever the fuck you want till then.
>>24278942Thank you anon, I could not into Kickstarter.
Mother of God.
>>24279166Just put the same thing up for $110, then when that runs out put more up for $120.
>>24279166Glad it's going well Viral.
>>24279980You would be a bad person to run a Kickstarter.
>>24279998Well, only if you put up a very limited number at the increased price. Otherwise the people who bought in early might feel somewhat miffed that their early support is devalued. It is an incentive to support early. If you were to add another hundred or more at a few dollars extra, I don't think it would be catastrophic.
>>24280213It is when you could just add more at the $99 level. You could bullshit some thing about limited orders, I guess, but Kickstart tends to operate on at least the illusion of good faith all round.
>>24280233Having a limited number of less costly items for early supporters is pretty standard for kickstarters actually.
>>24280308Kingdom Death did quite a number of those.
>>24280322They got a bit silly with it honestly.
>>24280308Planetary Annihilation, Torment, Cryamore, DreadBall, Project Eternity. That is of those I have backed.
>>24280375More evidence the nostalgia videogame run is just a cash-in then.
I asked my project manager about additional hardcover copies.He said "maybe".
>project managerYou keep referring to this person, yet I don't think you've ever explained who they are or what they do.
>>24280671>You keep referring to this person, yet I don't think you've ever explained who they are or what they do.Basically, he crunches the math for me and advises me on what steps to take. He's a very old and dear friend of mine from meatspace, and he's been working in the gaming industry for the last decade, so he knows a lot about how stuff works, and he's got a lot of industry contacts that we're making use of.When someone says "Hey Viral, can you do X?", I ask him what he thinks, he runs the numbers, and tells me how viable it is. He was instrumental in putting the tiers together, and he was the one who figured out how much we needed to cover both the actual cost of printing and shipping the books to FLGSs, and how much we'd have to set as a total goal to cover all the other stuff like backer rewards.He's made a few appearances in EH threads - he posts under the name Prime Minister.
>>24280671It's a bottle of Jack Daniels he takes a hit of before every update to the project.
>>24280744Tell your friend I said he's awesome.
>>24280832I told him people on 4chan said he's great.
>>24280744I do? I mean, yes, I do!Now that we have a very strong likelihood of success, I'm going to be working on the numbers for some of the stretch goals we have planned that aren't just new modules. I will see what different options we can provide for getting more color HC rulebooks available. They are much more popular than we envisioned. I am waiting on some quotes from a new printer first, and that will give me a better idea. I hope to have most of this worked out by Sunday.
>>24282069I'd really just like to see more art of the game. If there's any way you could find an artist friend or something and make an art book of concepts and themes in Engine Heart, I'd throw money at you.
For those of you out there not wanting to use spreadsheets, I'm working on a Bot Creator program in C++.(This isn't intended as competition for the excel creator that's being made, only as an alternate solution, and a release candidate probably won't be ready for a day or two anyways, depending on how I decide to solve a few of the problems)
>>24283136Is... is that thing gonna have a random robot generator?
>>24283314It is my firmly-held belief that mankind can only benefit from random robot generation. Who know what manner of new conveniences and breakthroughs such a contrivance could yield?
>>24278942You can also change your pledge later on. For example, one could pledge $1307 to push the campaign over the top, only to revoke it entirely a day later.What a glorious dick move that would be.
>>24283515If you pledged enough to put it over the top I think KS/Amazon automatically locks the pledges in, even if the KS has more time to go.
>>24283650the card isn't hit till the campaign expires. I know for a fact that pledges can be canceled after the funding level is achieved. Just not sure if dipping below the target right before they pull the trigger would prevent everybody else's stuff from getting hit.
>>24283681>I know for a fact that pledges can be canceled after the funding level is achieved.Really? The Backer Questions on KS's FAQ says this:>When is my card charged?>If the project you’re backing is successfully funded, your card will be charged when the project reaches its funding deadline. If the project does not reach its funding goal, your card is never charged. That's why we call them pledges.If that's the case, it's not very clear.
>>24283735Oh wait... derp, I've gone blind from statting robots all day.Never mind.
>>24283314Hah, I suppose I could. I'm first gonna focus on actually getting stat selection working, then I'll be figuring out a method for populating a feature list. I'm probably gonna go with XML lists, and whenever a new book or source material comes out with new defects and features, someone (probably me) will have to make an XML file for the new book. Campaign Settings will have check boxes for all the available books, check off the ones you want to use...Theoretically, DMs who know XML could make files with custom features and such also.After I get that working, then yeah. We can talk random bot gen.
>>24283735There was a flurry of adjustments right before Busty Barbarian Bimbos finished fundraising, including several decreases and some cancelations. From my inbox on hour fifteen minutes before the campaign closed up:"K***** B**** canceled their $30.00 pledge.$12,675.68 is currently pledged toward the $2,500.00 goal."Name redacted to protect the innocent. Considering the pace this campaign is going at, I wouldn't worry about it closing below the target, just don't consider every pledge to be money-in-the-bank until it actually is. Also a fair number of credit card transactions are bound to fail.
>>24266026I'm sorry sir, you seem to be implying that Brave Little Toaster didn't already take place in a nightmare-world.
Can I get the chargen in .ods?I don't want to wine excel for this.
>>24283879I can't believe people aren't even mildly peeved you took one of Viral's games and kickstarted for improvements to it.
>>24284762>I can't believe people aren't even mildly peeved you took one of Viral's games and kickstarted for improvements to it.Wat.
>>24284774Didn't you know I kickstarted Engine Heart two months ago? Make almost $50k off it. Mostly profit.
Why are there no stretch goals on the KS page?!It is time.
>>24284801It's true, I stole the video from it and uploaded it as my own work.
>>24284840The first stretch goal is getting the final part of the In Transit minimodule at $7,501.
>>24284865Where can potential backers learn that?!
>>24284840The robots are mostly sheet aluminum and hard injection-molded plastic. Few few can stretch.
>>24284895I see you took the funny feature.
>>24284889>potential backersHmm, good point. It only gets mentioned in the backer-only posts.TO THE EDITING TAB!
I'm getting the hardcover Hard-Coded Edition in glorious full color and you can't (unless you already did)!
>>24284924Nice update.I pledged through a friend's account and can't access the backers only page until I see him Saturday. Are parts 1 and 2 of In Transit there to d/l?
>>24269478Couldn't stop, so here is a mailbot.(The binary code is the mailman's creed)
>>24285633That's either a tiny mailbot or a Publisher's Clearing House prize winner.
>>24269883I was the larger repairbot in that game. Spoiler: game ended in nuclear fire. (as if there was any doubt)
>>24285762DEEEETAAAAAAAILS!I have been desperate to hear more about this game!
>>24285791>>24285762It was a while ago and I have blocked out a few parts. So what I do remember is not so much storytime as a 'nam flashback. Will do my best tho...
>>24285931You still in contact with the GM?
>>24285791>>24285931So the previous story >>24269883 left off with the five of us walking in slo-mo away from the burning chuck-e-cheese. From there we returned to city hall, with the paper-shredder robot stuck on its side, apparently after being thrown through a window by the bureaucrobots up in the office. The party was endeared by him, named him shreddy and took him with us. (not a new player, just a silent npc we liked. ) Little did we know that shreddy would soon become the harbinger of our doom....
We're doing pretty good so far... if we get another $60 before midnight we'll beat yesterday's total.PM and I have been discussing stretch goals.
>>24286015I am currently playing in a 5e (or DDN or whatever they are calling it) playtest with him as DM. I shall refer to him as Ty-Ty, because he hates that nickname. >>24286126Anyway, under the city hall we discovered a fallout shelter, empty except for a few cots, a diary mentioning that people were evacuating toward the coast, and the corpse of an old man, apparently too sickly to go with the other evacuees. Barry (having failed his humancon roll to conceptualize death) was ecstatic at having found a new audience member. He played his full four-hour show for the mummified skeleton. Dissatisfied with the amount of applause he received, Barry decided to take the corpse with us. In addition to getting the band back together, he had decided to find the humans so he could play for them. They would LISTEN to his show this time. They would APPRECIATE his music. Even if they had to be chained to their seats for the rest of their lives. The cymbal-monkey approved of this idea, as he was by now settling into (read: forcing the DM to accept) his back story as a CIA spy camera turned childs toy. The butcher-bots player had left the game, while I and the other repair bot had too low humancon scores to see any problems with this. So on we went...
>>24286356>Barry (having failed his humancon roll to conceptualize death) was ecstatic at having found a new audience member.>He played his full four-hour show for the mummified skeleton.
>>24286461I am so sorry for what we did using your game, sir...>>24286356The group barely managed to roll enough Realitycon to realize that it was about to rain, so we took shelter in a partly collapsed and overgrown church near a strip mall. Bary set to tuning his banjo (pointlessly, it had no strings, the music came from a speaker in his chest) while the monkey started a new project: he wanted to turn shreddie into his personal tank. Us repair bots, happy to have something to do, began work. We already new that this was no ordinary office paper shredder. No, this was a soviet-made industrial grade paper shredder/copier/scanner/fax machine. Built of heavy steel, it practically already was a tank. Adorned only by the close-together and unmarked "scan" and "shred" paper ports and a barely visible hammer-and-sickle logo that had been hastily painted over long ago. we started by welding some of the churches wrought-iron fence to his sides, spikes pointing forward and making him resemble a 40k chaos tank. but when we opened him up, we found something interesting...
Ok, got stat point calculation working, but nothing else. Yet. The UI is completely up so you can see how the final product will look. If anyone has any complaints about it, let me know.http://www.4shared.com/file/1cIv_ScB/Engine_Heart_Bot_Creator.html
>>24286786Within shreddie there was a secondary computer core, along with a powerful hard drive. We determined that it had been used to scan and save a copy of every document he had ever eaten, then to transmit it to an unknown recipient. The cymbal monkey took the hard drive and climbed to the top of the old belltower in order to get a better signal. and upon that mount he spoke unto a god. He came down a changed monkey, plans for the glorious revolution already stirring within his central processor. Unfortunately most of the bell tower came down with him, so we had to move before we could question him. We high-tailed it towards the mall, not noticing the rain-soaked plants growing supernaturally fast, nor that we had left the unfortunate corpse sitting right near them...
>>24287046>http://www.4shared.com/file/1cIv_ScB/Engine_Heart_Bot_Creator.htmlCan you upload that to a less shitty site?
>>24287046My only possible suggestion would be to combine the attributes and feat/def pages so you can see everything at once.Is this program gonna be able to discern the caps on features/defects based on your attribute ratings?>>24287235I can re-up it to Mediafire?
>>24287302>can't raise your Strength above 5 unless your Size is already 5Nice.
>>24287258I had it that way initially, but the window got pretty big that way. Tabbing it out kept the size small enough where you could have the program open and maybe a pdf or something without being cramped for screen space (for those of us not having two monitors)
>>24287258and yes, that's one of my goals. I'll basically have a format that describes features and defects, and one of the describing aspects will be something like "limiting stat" or whatever and you can't take ratings in the feature above whatever its defined as.
>>24287235http://www.mediafire.com/?267689t84n7aj39I wanted to do dropbox, but aparrantly their site is fucked up right now and not letting me log in for some reason...
>>24287385>>24287419Well, I think you've got an awesome program so far. I can't wait to see what it looks like completed!
>>24287135(I forget if it was mentioned, but this game took place in a fallout-style retro-americana future. Thus, nuclear generators were commonplace and evidence of cold-war paranoia was everywhere.) So, the two repair bots, the racist animatronic banjo bear, the spiky paper shredder (who had by now gained a massive bronze bell on his back), and the cleaver-wielding, communist spy monkey walked into a toy shop. The self-aware playthings were furtively huddled around pic related, apparently their power source. The primitive tribe that had developed among them warned us about the "things" that they lived in constant fear of, and had (poorly) barricaded the store against. While the rest of us started to shore up defenses, KGB monkey wasted no time in starting to forcibly reprogram Barry. Not much, it was just that his songs would start condemning the wicked bourgeois capitalists instead of "that rascally raccoon". Before he could move on to anyone else, the main plot began shuffling up to the door and banging on it with its leafy fists. One destroyed home-depot garden center later, the party was in pretty fine shape, and shreddy had even added a pair of roto-tillers to his ever-increasing bulk. This is about the three-quarters mark in the story, and, being a weak human i need to eat, so I will stop for now. If this thread is still up when I get back I may continue.
>>24287765I really want to play in this setting or at the very least try out engine heart. The system looks awesome and I love me some fallout style Americana.
>>24287718Do you happen to have a plain-text non-formatted list of the features and defects in the core book? Copying from the pdf isn't working for me for some reason.
>>24288020Sure, gimme a few minutes to get it together.
Would these guys be interested in Engine Heart?http://www.reapermini.com/forum/index.php?/forum/61-kickstarter/
>>24288020>>24288048http://pastebin.com/KPJL1StNHere you go!
>>24288129>http://pastebin.com/KPJL1StNamazing. This'll make short work of making the definitions for that book. Thanks, Viral.
>>24288156I added the features and defects from Industry Standard:http://pastebin.com/MXFNkQBz
>>24288224Is it possible to have a link to the current pdf posted in the thread as well?
>>24288129>http://pastebin.com/KPJL1StNExcel/Office Maker is home now as well. Glad to see someone doing a more high class professional one as well. >>24284615Upon further inspection good sir the latest version of Open Office seems capable of opening and using the Excel version, however it looks much shittier this way. Take that how you will...
>>24288267>>24288312I think he meant Industry Standard. I... am sorta obligated not to post it right now to keep it exclusive.If someone else shared the file, though, I wouldn't be able to stop them.
>>24288312>http://viralgamespublishing.com/Thanks I am in the mood to make a commie drink vending machine
>>24288326You are such a bro.
Sorry i can't upload it to 4chan, but it doesn't seem to be working.Thanks for making us that tool.http://viralgamespublishing.com/resources/Industry+Standard.pdf
>>24288291Both are nice to have around. Something in xls or ods is completely cross-platform as long as the person has a spreadsheet program. Sure its not as robust of a solution, but the portability is nice.
>>24287926>I really want to play in this setting or at the very least try out engine heart. The system looks awesome and I love me some fallout style Americana.Here's the in-store micromodule that's going out to stores along with the game. It's made to introduce new players and GMs to the game, so it has a lot of hand-holding and rules explanation along with a short railroady plotline.
>>24285633Modified for one of my players who plays a very AMERICA mailbot.
>PRIMARY BATTERY: 85% CHARGEDCaesarSalad has finished a draft of some introductory fluff that will appear near the beginning of the Engine Heart rulebook. Watch for a preview of it beginning tomorrow!I think I'm also gonna link the in-store micromodule on the KS so people who are totally new to the system can have some hand-holding.
>>24289278>power meter is already out of dateSHHIIIIIIII-
>>24288570I ran my group through that on monday. Nothing quite like watching a cleaning bot with "Overriding Directive Major, Rank 3 -- Must clean filth" trying to convince himself to go through the Wetlands.
>>24289306I'd like to hear how that went!
>>24289354i find it amusing that a low size bot has better damage abilities with strikes and high strength than any of the tools or drills or whatnot
It's not gonna make it
>>24289397I'm sure everyone here would be thoroughly interested in hearing the metrics and professional experiences you're using to make that statement. I know I am.
Id seen the occasional thread here and there, but now that Ive taken the time to read it, I cant freaking wait to see this game come out! just pleged 75 bucks to it, I cant wait to throw this game into my group!
>>24289354It went both horribly and amazingly. Our welding bot ended up carrying him on his back... and then he got stuck. Our other two bots were too small to push our massive size 5 welder out of the muck, and so the cleaning bot was stranded on top of an immobile welder bot. He was stubborn and decided to stay as long as his batteries would let him... until the scrap drones came.Of course, on another bot's back is not sufficient for a struggle, and he fell in the muck. The ensuing rage that poor cleaning bot felt was exacted upon all of the poor drones, and then the ReCyclone later.>>24289396Size 5 bot with a cutting laser does 6 damage. I don't see how a small sized bot can top that...
>>24289616not what i mean, i mean a small size bot is better off just going high str and punching a bitch than getting a drill or whatnot.
>>24279166FFFF!!! Viral you jerk! I already pledged at a lower amount the other day and now you add this in!? ARG...I would have put in the extra money but I can't justify both. /tg/ help me. I'm fat and can't into Kickstarter. Can you upgrade your pledge amount in KS?
>>24289683oh, right. Well it makes sense if you think about it. What good is a teeny drill/saw gonna do anyways?
>>24289711Put the US Mail logo on his chest.
Finding ways to describe some of these features in a regular manner that the computer can easily data-munch is proving interesting.<feature> <name>High Speed</name> <description>The robot is faster than a similar model. The robot’s maximum speed is increased by 50% (round down). This does not affect the robot’s Mobility or Reflexes ratings, only its maximum speed.</description> <has_ratings>false</has_ratings> <cost>12</cost> <has_limit>true</has_limit> <limit>1</limit> <limit_modified>false</limit_modified> <restricts_another>true</restricts_another> <restriction_list>Low Speed</restriction_list> <allows_another>false</allows_another> <extra>@1,Speed +/2</extra></feature>
>>24289738Yes, you just change tiers but it looks like it's all out according to the image.
>>24289885God bless the programmers.Heaven knows I couldn't handle that shit.
>>24289795You got it.
>>24289952...proud to be 'merican...
>>24289885I'm working on Armored Chassis right now and have to reference Sheet 1 from Sheet 2 setting the Rating for Armored Chassis to, at maximum, equal your Strength scoreI'm not very familiar with your language but it's a lot sexier looking that mine.
>>24290186It's just XML. This isn't the actual code for the program, this is just a standardized way to describe things so the computer can munch it as data. It's usually used for webpages, but it's great for stuff like this, too.http://www.w3schools.com/xml/xml_elements.aspI don't know if there's any sort of plugin or something for Excel to read XML files, but if there is I can hand over mine to you when I'm done.
>>24290336I really need to work on expanding my knowledge base for this kind of stuff.
for some of these things without ratings, can the bot have more than 1 of them? Like... can a robot have multiple power docks or secondary batteries?
>>24290400I hate you Viral for the External Container portion. it's a bitch to type the description into Excel as it's not straight forward. Just for that I think a robotic cubby shelf is in order obsessed with filling all of it's shelves like it used to be when there were still children. Yep, horror shelf stuffed with tiny broken robots. I can see it now.
>>24290779I think the intention was no but ultimately some robots may have them, just not PRs.
>>24290956I had a problem there too. They can't be described with XML (well, they CAN, but there's no way for the XML to automagically handle just how much container you can get)So I did pic related instead and am treating containers like their own special thing rather than treating them like features.
>>24291055I'm lucky in mine is just the descriptor without getting the table. I set a ridiculous max of 33 containers hoping that will be enough for any player. I'm not sure how that would even work logistically but I said to hell with it. Just as soon as I say that someone will have a build for the Cubbybot 3000.I'm gonna crash for the night, I can work longer tomorrow since I'm off Thursday. Keep going man, it's looking great.
>>24291149Well, maximum that a PR could have would be if they were size 6 (from taking the Giant feature from Power & Light) and took 6 size 1 externals, 6 size 1 internals, and 6 size 1 liquid dispensers. So 18 seems like the maximum.
Here's the Sanitary Cleaning Robot from United Business Solutions or SCRUBS for short.
>>24291489These guys are pretty fun to make. I'll have to make some instructions for Mr. Zip and Scrubs.
Repair bot from the Barry banjo story back again, anyone want me to finish?
>>24291703>>24291905Where did I leave off? ah yes:>>24287765Events in the last session happened pretty fast. We left the small tribe of toys in even greater awe and fear of us than of the plant creatures. We continued down what we were fairly sure was the right road until we came to the factory. What did this factory build? Why the hillbunny billy band itself! There were hundreds of banjo Barrys, fur rippling proudly in the breeze, steel claws gleaming in the... wait, what? How could they expect to play the banjo with claws like those? Why was Hillbunny Billies' trumpet so long and straight? And did Shelly always have surface-to-air missiles in her shell? At our (probably unwise) approach, the patrols instantly recognized both our "band member" characters and waived us in, despite Barry being rather "threadbear", to say nothing of the backwards-warbling, barely mobile Billy who had been following us all this time. Inside, there were even more combat-modified band members, and in the center of it all, was him. Imagine a cartoon raccoon, speaking like pic related. >"Wha, ah chose this heah fohm ahn account of its.... dextrus little pahws. They ah so helpful in manipulatin thangs... Th' accent is 'jus an ahtafact of its programin'" Yes, Wrascally 'coon himself was directing it all. With his nemesis in sight, Barry was on edge- sure he claimed that he was a larger computer using the racoon as a drone body, just like everything at the plant, but how did we know that? Moneybags Molestein and Mohamed Muskrat could be right around the corner! But Wraskally 'coon was holding all the cards and he knew it. all he wanted was for us to do one simple job...
>>24292232Wraskally twirled his whiskers and told us of a science lab nearby whose robots were using the plant zombies, experimenting, making them stronger. His own bots could not leave the limited radio control field of the factory. We were the only option. Reluctantly, we agreed to go. The science lab was a house of horror: previously the plants were unable to bond with metal, a flaw that someone here was attempting to overcome, and to disgusting effect. After fighting our way through waves of horrible, mutated plant/robot hybrid zombies, we came to the computer core, who believed that this "final upgrade" was what our creators had intended all along. When his broken frame powered down at last, there was a moment of quiet- punctuated by the beeping noise that we quickly determined to be an overloading nuclear battery...
>>24292434Almost all of us made it out in time... almost. Barry solemnly clutched the burned and irradiated hunk of metal that used to be his bestest friend in the whol' wide world. And with all of his pre-programmed will, he swore that that 'ol coon would pay this time. Our goal was within reach: we would build a camp (like summer camp!) for the humans where they could be monitored and kept safe at all times. And of course, twice a day they would be entertained by the wonderful four-hour long "Hillbunny Billy's soviet propaganda and country-time review!" With special sections in the back, specially reserved and at only 3/5ths the cost of a regular ticket. It would be wonderful, and all that stood in our way was that raccoon. (OK, to be fair, the party member with the only respectable humancon rating was the KGB knife-monkey, so we were operating on his word about what humans liked.) The plan worked, we got the racoon alone on a catwalk above the factory, just him, Barry, the repair robots and....and where was that monkey?I saw him going down the cargo elevator to the factory's sub-basement and decided to follow. In short order, Barry re-enacted that scene from the Lion King with Wrascally 'coon in the place of Mufasa.Now My character, "Bot the builder" was just a simple constructor unit, but even he knew that 001+001=010. He knew something was wrong with that monkey, and when he saw that hard drive connected to the factory computers, downloading new programs into the latest banjo bots, all his worst fears were confirmed. A human might have been scared to fight knife-wielding monkey in a dark basement, but for a size 5 piece of rugged construction equipment, it was a short fight. When the deed was done I ripped the drive out of the console, crushing it. There was a moment of quiet- punctuated by the beeping noise of an overloading nuclear battery...
>>24292790It was a TPK, IRL we all welcomed it. The epilogue, told to us by the DM afterward was as follows:-The plant creatures continued to spread into our world through the crack first opened at CERN. -Out on a flotilla clustered around an oil rig, the last humans watched green tendrils desperately trying to find purchase on the slick metal of their final bastion. They worried, as their food supplies began to dwindle. -In high orbit, and in an underground bunker, two powerful supercomputers shook electronic hands. They might have lost a factory and some minor drones, but they had each gained a valuable new ally. -Shreddie, with only one hit point remaining, and with most of his accessories blasted off, landed by the side of the road near the crater of the former factory. With an amazing luck roll, he managed to land on his treads. And so he trundled off into the sunset...Overall: BAD ENDTo be fair, at that point I think we all knew the game had to end in fire. Thank you all for staying up to read. Has this been archived or even screen capped.? Can someone check that? Falling asleep at keyboard.
>>24289531>http://viralgamespublishing.com/resources/Industry+Standard.pdfThe game has been out, and still gets expanded.The KS gets it into stores far from /tg/. But you can download it right now, for free, and start playing.
>>24290336Didn't MS-Office start saving all formats to xml back in 05? It say .doc, .xls, .ppt, but inside it's .xml
>>24292929That's it, story over. Viral, you still awake?
>>24292929This was an awesome story thank you for sharing it.
>>24293157I am now! > slowclap.gif
>>24291214Technically a PR could be Size 7, because the cap on the Giant feature is the robot's Power rating -3 (which means that with a maximum Power rating of 5, it could have a Giant rating of 2).
>>24294410hey Viral, what's the official ruling on >>24290779 this?
>>24294556Hmm... I would maybe allow tertiary batteries, I guess, but as for everything else, if the descriptor doesn't say "the robot may have multiple X", I'd say no. The Power Dock's rules would get messed up if there was more than one robot plugged in simultaneously, because if the Power Dock-equipped robot had its battery drained from the FIRST charging robot, what happens with the second charging robot that plugged in at the same time?Thanks for pointing out that the rules need a clarification about "If the descriptor doesn't say anything about having multiple copies of a feature, then shut up and sit down".
Power meter: updated!We're almost at 90%!
>>24294760Never mind, we ARE at 90%!
>>24294760You NEED to put up a stretch goal beyond $7501. Something serious and beneficial to the project, or potential backers will see that it is funded, get that it is a donation drive with expensive goodies, and decide no more backing is necessary.If the mini design or something big show up on the page to be funded at $10,000 or so then they will se a point in backing the project.
>>24294813Better start getting ready to crank out them stretch goals.
>>24294836>>24294837Yeah, Project Manager is working on that right now (well, he's probably still in bed right now, but he *has* been working on them).Hopefully we can put some new stuff up today, besides some of the new fluff that'll be in the rulebook.
>>24294862Have you considered populating the rulebooks with art as a stretch goal? It shouldn't cost too much to get some cute robot art done and it would help the books seem like a better value.
>>24294668That's what I was figuring, since the extra limb thing specified you could take it multiple times.
>>24294893>it would help the next edition seem like a better value.
>>24294893you're not the first anon to ask about this as a stretch>>24282538
>>24294911derp, not anon. person. whatever.
>>242949181) clear name field2) samefagBut I agree. Art would be sweet, and a major selling point.
>>24294893Been thinking about it.PM has an artist friend who may or may not be involved in creating a GM screen. See >>24294911Still not sure if I want more realistic artwork than the shipping-package-style icon imagery.
>>24294928Saihenjin was saying that Freeheart was a namefag, not an anon.
The problem I see is that art takes away a lot of imagination. Right now EH is rather ambivalent as to whether it is a cute G fairy tale, an exciting PG adventure, or a dark R dystopia. It is up to the Programmer to tone those shades.With art players can take the book, point at a page and go 'like this'. Which is a dangerous thing to have, not at the least because it destroys any other imaginations of a certain thing.But art is still possible, as long as it avoids the usual PC portrait genre and instead relies on conveying atmosphere by only showing ambivalent details and landscape.
>>24294938I like the art style on the cover, really. I'd like to see more stuff like 99E9F0, but if you wanted to continue the shipping-package style, also consider blueprint/CAD drawings because they have a similar feel to them.
>>24294982>The problem I see is that art takes away a lot of imagination. Right now EH is rather ambivalent as to whether it is a cute G fairy tale, an exciting PG adventure, or a dark R dystopia. It is up to the Programmer to tone those shades.>With art players can take the book, point at a page and go 'like this'. Which is a dangerous thing to have, not at the least because it destroys any other imaginations of a certain thing.This is exactly my reasoning for being hesitant to add "official" art. The icon imagery was conceived as icons that people in the future-past would have seen on the cardboard boxes their robots came in, like pic related.>>24294996I have more tiny bots like the cover mascot that I've been considering taking close-up pictures of.
>>24294982The only other way would be to show robots, but show lots of them, imagined in different ways, by many artists, and overwhelm the sense of genre with images offering all kinds of extrapolations as to the world in general, just never a consistent one.
>>24295020>>24294996Also, circuit diagrams.I get what you're getting at. Stuff that the consumer would have looked at, briefly considered, then completely forgotten. Just like the PRs.
>>24295032>Stuff that the consumer would have looked at, briefly considered, then completely forgotten. Just like the PRs.
>>24294918I'm an anon at heart and in every other thread but the EH kickstarter ones.>>24295020>I have more tiny bots like the cover mascot that I've been considering taking close-up pictures of.I would love to see that.
>>24295105>implying I don't take off my name to samefag in these threads too.
>>24295105>I'm an anon at heart and in every other thread but the EH kickstarter ones.Same.Except when I'm shilling EH or a related Exciting Game From Viral Games™.
>>24295105>I would love to see that.Once it gets a little lighter out, I can take some pictures.
>>24295318where did you get the little bots?
>>24295336I made them from scrap bits of plastic. These astromechs were all made from cut pieces of Bic pens for barrels, little bits of Warhammer Fantasy sprues, and hot glue dabs for the domes.I used to have a lot more free time.I am aware that the paints are too thick. My friends and I never cared about quality paint jobs because from three feet away they look fine.Of course, from two millimeters away all that paint looks like corrosion.
>>24295051;.;I don't have any more medicine and that hurt my feels. Poor little guy.
>>24295376I kinda want to make a EH mini now.
>>24295376Wait, no, those domes were made from little rubber footpads from a remote control or something. There's an R3 in there somewhere that has a dome made from a dab of hot glue with a little brain suspended in the middle of it.
We're all just playing plastic puppets constructed by a 15 year old Viral. We call them robots to sound cool.
>>24295178>Exciting Game From Viral Games™Oh man, I love an EGFVG™.
Posted an update.Color hardcovers + dice are back on the table!
>>24299103HEY! Now mine is less special. How dare you?
>>24299103We calculated that the people who would be angry would be out-shouted by the people who weren't able to get one.Also you got it for six bucks less.
>>24299285I'm glad to see all that work my colleagues and I did in the sixties to establish the field of Shoutonomics is finally being put to use.
whoop, $7000 broken!
>>24299700Whooompthere it is
... Now I actually have to think of what 100 point robot I will want doodled in my book
>>24301402WE'RE SO CLOSEI wish I could make you use my robot ideait is the best idea
UPDATE: New fiction from CaesarSalad (creator of The Farm and Luck E. Dog's from the Power and Light module) has just been posted on the KS!It's pretty grim, so brace yourselves!
>>24302055Well, that was depressing.
Shit, it was so depressing it's made a couple of backers vanishWAY TO GO VIRAL
>>24302606Nope, they were just re-backing to snag those color copies.
>>24302428>>24302606Oh God, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry.I'll try and make the next one humorous.
>>24295051That... I need to cry now...
Almost done, how long till we hear the next goal?
TWO HUNDRED AND SIXTEEN TO GOTHIS METER IS ALREADY OUT OF DATE
>>24304324216 to go...
>>24304324I sent you my Robot Roll Call entry. :3 Can't wait to see him in a minimod!
>>24304340C'mon internet. Fund faster.
191 to go
I'm not sure how Kickstarter works, with the stretch goals.Once you've hit the stretch goal mark, Viral, you begin adding more content as the pledge amount increases?And all who pledge receive these extras?
Here's another bot, as promised earlier.>>24305425>Once you've hit the stretch goal mark, Viral, you begin adding more content as the pledge amount increases?Correct. >And all who pledge receive these extras?That's what we're gonna try for!
>>24305425You usually get stretch goals that expand the product, add extras, possibly new goodies for backers, but usually not free ones.Now with EH everything is free, except the printing. So any content stretch goals will eventually be available to everyone. Another idea was commissioning miniature design to get a shapeways template. That could be a stretch goal, but nothing special for backers. You'd have to pay shapeways to get the minis.
>>24305425basically, you have a goal of 100 and you meet it. So you say "If we get to 150 everyone gets stickers!" then around 130 you say "If we hit 180 pledge levels of 10 or higher get extra napkins!" and if it hits 150 you give the stickers to everyone, and if it hits 180 you give the napkins to the backers who are at the 10 level and higher.
>>24305587I've seen the 'at 150 you can pay ten more bucks to get a sticker' more regularly.
Is J&J still in the race for a stretch goal?
>>24305529>>24305531>>24305587Oh okay, so it's actually funding the publishing of new/more content.I'm really glad you're actually getting physical printings of this, my group complain every time I use anything electronic for our games, even though they're the most convenient/economical format.
Stretch Goals edited.
>>24305626Which is fairly smart, as a number of Kickstarter projects have had a rude awakening when it comes to actual fulfillment.I know the guys that did Zpocalypse actually had to kick in 13k of their own money to get the project shipped just because they'd underestimated shipping costs/backer extra printing costs.
Less than 100 to go.
Holy shit, one of my FLGS's is one of the consignment ones.I'm torn between pitching in for the KS or buying from them so they get rewarded for being good.
>>24306983At this point, with $66 left to go, I'd say get it from your FLGS and gush about how cool it is that they have it. That'll do a lot more for the game and the hobby in the long run.
>>24307016I WANT PICTURES!I WANT PICTURES OF PLAYERS POINTING AT IT ON THE SHELFIF SPIDER-MAN IS IN THE PICTURE TOO THAT'S FINE BUT NOT REQUIRED
>>24307043... I just found my 100 point robot. a J Jonah Jameson media bot. With a loud speaker and a horribly bias view of things.
>>24307043DONE. I shall strive to do it justice.I... may start bringing a Spiderman mask with me when I go there.
>>24307618my only regret is i do not have another 56 dollars to give!
>>24307847Back to workI wish I had unlimited disposable income...
>>24308029don't we all.
>>24308029college eats so much of my time for work. shit sucks. Fall semester's coming and i'll have even less.Gonna be a grade-a poorfag.
Ok /tg/.While we wait for the last .05 percent of the funding to come in, I'll spend some time here answering whatever questions you might have related to the Kickstarter and project in general.
>>24308221What are...the next set of stretch goals...
>>24308221Ok. We passed it . See you all later
>>24308221What have you guys learned from doing this kickstarter that you didn't know/understand beforehand?What advice would you give to people thinking about trying this is the future?
>>24308221Can we expect another ks in the future for other Viral IPs?
Congratulations, Mr V-Man.You just leveled up.I'm so happy and so impatient now.
>>24308221Eh, sure, I'll bite. For FLGSes that aren't on your list and aren't involved in funding the kickstarter (for whatever reason), will there be a publicly available way for them to order books?
>>24308364the robot's eyes should be different now that he's got his main power source charged. :<
>>24308382There should be a waiting list for a second printing.
>>24308304There aren't any goals set in stone yet outside of that first minimod. Ones we are looking at include (in no particular order): GS Dice to all backers, GM screens, additional minimods, stickers, and minis, as well as possibly getting more games sent to the stores as well. >>24308333So far, everything holds true. I expect that to change though. Viral and I did underestimate exactly how big it would be. As for advice, hire me, as Viral will attest.>>24308367I'm going to push him to do such, yes.>>24308382Sai, first, thanks for backing :)2nd, it really depends on how much excess funding we have to do a 2nd print run. We have tried very, very hard to make sure we aren't making any exorbitant profits on this project.
>>24308364>>24308221Stretch Goal idea: pay an extra XX dollars and receive the KickStarter Bot Collection, a book of every robot made by Viral as kickstarter rewards. Use these robots to fill your world with NPCs
>>24308418First screen cap I've ever been a part of.I don't know how I feel
>>24308412Setting that up is not a bad idea. I will have Viral look into setting that up.
>>24308516I totally suggested that to him.
>>24308516along with the pictures he draws.
>>24308516That's actually, a really great ideaA bestiary min-mod designed by the kickstarters would be really neat and unique.
>>24308516This is not the model I want to approach with stretch goals. I want to continue raising money and use it to "give" stuff to our backers, rather than say "Thank you for giving us money. Now you can give us more!"
>>24308585>>24308595Bonus points if viral writes little thank you notes to the people whose bots they are (perhaps only thank you notes for people who gave at least a certain amount?)
>>24308617Doesn't have to be printed. Just make it downloadable.
HELLO NECKBEARSI LOVE YOU ALLYOU ARE AMAZING SHINING STARS THAT WILL NEVER GO OUTHI MOM
>>24308617I wouldn't mind paying for it, especially knowing that producing a whole new book like this would cost a decent chunk. At the very least, limit the book to people who've donated a certain amount.I'm just saying, I'd feel just fine paying a bit for it.
>>24308631Hi Viral's mom!Good job.
>>24308629downloadable by backers for free, or you can pay for a hardcopy. that seems fair.
>>24308631...is the lizard Viral's mom?
>>24308610Yeah. To be clear, I think that is a very cute idea. I just wanted to clarify we'd attempt to make it free in one manner or another.
>>24308631Dude. The next game you make must have Neckbears as a monster type.
We funded now.
>>24308939oh my fucking god. BRB, statting MST3K in Engine Heart.
>>24308952Viral. MST3K mod. NAO
>>24309004NOW KEEP IN MIND HE CAN'T CONTROLWHEN THE MOVIES BEGIN OR END,BECAUSE HE USED THE EXTRA PARTSTO MAKE HIS ROBOT FRIENDS.ROBOT ROLL-CALL:CAMBOTSERVOGYPSYCROW!IF YOU'RE WONDERING HOW HE EATS AND BREATHESAND OTHER SCIENCE FACTS,JUST REPEAT TO YOURSELF "IT'S JUST A SHOW,I SHOULD REALLY JUST RELAXFOR MYSTERY SCIENCE THEATER 3000."
>>24308952>yfw Tom Servo, Gypsie, and Crow all wander through a post-human landscape cracking wise at everything they see
>>24309004Seth, MST3K copyright release, NAO!
>>24309123Yeah, really!What am I paying you for?
>>24309123DON'T TELL ME HOW TO DO MY JOB, MOM!
>>24309123>>24309145>>24309170Now now, the obvious solution is an unofficial "release" by some "anonymous" person, and of course, Viral can't be found responsible for whatever some random guy on the internet makes and distributes.
>>24309256But if it's official, I get all your monies.
>>24309271MST3K and Rifftrax had to bend over backwards to avoid copyright infringement. If their rights weren't sold to some MPAA/RIAA mafiosi, they might be open to this...
>More books, more dice, stickers, maybe a GM Screen... possibly even 28mm miniatures!
>>24308333Freeheart - 1 serious piece of advice I would give is make sure you have your stretch goals much more set and ready to roll. I came into the project kind of late, and shoehorned myself in when I did. That said, ours is a little unique in that we started the project well behind the 8 ball in that it was ~3000 dollars in the hole before the first dollar was raised.
>>24309373>it was ~3000 dollars in the hole before the first dollar was raised.From what I have heard talking to people that is not uncommon. People take it as far as they can before setting the KS into action.Is your guys holdup with the new goals just waiting for quotes to get back?
>>24309373> I came into the project kind of late, and shoehorned myself in when I didYeah, but without you this would have been a lot less fun!
>>24309437Yes. I came in and provided Viral with another option on printing that will possibly save hundreds of dollars, along with lining up an artist for a GM screen and getting quotes on printing that. If and when I can confirm the savings on printing the books, we will have a much firmer idea on which stretch goals we can go forward with.
>>24309437Well, one's I'm familiar with aren't in the hole as a result of giving their product away for free. If they are, they're IMPO unequivocally going about it wrong. Honestly, I'd have told Viral as such before he started lining up stores. Don't get me wrong. I'm thrilled it got there. But it's the exception, not the rule.
All right everybody, I'm going to go to bed. Thank you for being amazing. I have one last thing to say before I jet:If you want this to really blow up, spread the word! FB your friends, tweet about it, put those dealer posters up clandestinely, whatever you can do to get people to hear about Engine Heart. You've been a huge part of the success so far, but I think we can go even bigger!THANK YOU AND WE'LL SEE YOU AT THE FIRST STRETCH GOAL
>>24310134On Saturday my entire group is building papercraft robos with qr code to drop inconspicuously at opportune locations.