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Every damn time, every zombie game or movie, its always the same. People in street clothes with shotguns and AKs, going along just fine till they run out of bullets, get bitten, and die. Well fuck that. Alternative solution. Suppose some guys get themselves caught in a zombie apoc, and they are metal heads and renaissance era enthusiasts. So when the dead start rising, they don't reach for their guns they reach for their zweihänders, their battle-axes, their halberds, and their fucking tower shields. Then they run blazing into the undead filled night with every piece of their skin covered in metal and every hand armed with something big and sharp. How long do you think our troupe of rock-guided warriors of old would last? And how would they compare to the standard group of survivalists who use street clothes, bullet-proof vests, and guns.

For the purposes of this discussion, the zombies infect by bite or claw, the transformation happens 48 hours from infection, and they are slow zombies.
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They'd be pretty much immune to bites, and a mace or warhammer would be good crushing skulls, but I'd rather use a gun.

>in b4 armor weighs a hundred pounds and is extremely restrictive
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Why restrict yourself to non-modern firearms?
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You would still get swarmed upon and your armor torn off unless you have a solid, trained group of 50-200 people forming a shield wall.
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>>25057700
Well, there IS that, but also consider the following.

You're wearing some pretty loud armor. You're wearing some pretty heavy armor, too. You don't exactly have the most arm flexibility. I'd say that if a few zombies get their grubby hands on your metallic exterior, chances are they'd just topple you and kind of meander uselessly on top of you, like fish flopping around on dry ground. Except the fish are now zombies flopping around on you.
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I had this same idea before. If you wear a Neoprene dive suit, under a super tight chain link coil, and then plate on top, there's no way for them to bite you, or the fluids to get in. However, you'd also have to wear a respirator face mask.

There's still the bad of getting mobbed. You get pulled down by a group of 100 zombies, there's no way you're getting back up. They'll eventually worm their way into your armor and you're fucked.
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>>25057700
Yeah, the only major danger would be getting surrounded and pulled to the ground, I'd say. It'd eliminate the risk of getting caught unawares by a singular zombie you didn't expect.
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>>25057663

>slow zombies

Well, they'd have to be very careful not to get crushed under a huge mob.

Mobility is your greatest advantage in a slow zombie apocalypse and they forfeit that advantage for bite immunity.
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Also, armor takes a while to don, restricts movement, and slows you down. And being immune to bites and scratches is all right and good, until the zombies pile on and suffocate you with weight.
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>>25057750

Would there be any way for a coordinated group of Roman Legionnaires forming a shield wall to be destroyed by zombies?
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I think there was a story in WWZ about a soldier who was basically decked out in so much armour that he couldn't be bitten.

Instead he spent an undetermined amount of time under a pile of zombies unable to die and unable to move until someone pulled him out of it.

A weapon like a halberd might be good though... something you can hit them with from a distance with an axe head for cutting power.
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>>25057700
No it doesn't and no it isn't
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What about peripheral vision? I mean, positioning is very important if you don't want to get mobbed.
Also, where are we? How hot is it? And how well does a suit of armor deal with heat?
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>>25057780
>>25057759
>>25057756
>>25057755
Ok, so the consensus appears to be
>"They'd get smothered by zombie flesh"

To which I ask, still limiting yourself to medieval/renaissance stuff, how does one stop this problem?
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/k/ here, let's see how /tg/ would stand up.

innawoods.net
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Wearing armor trades the danger of zombies for the danger of dehydration and exhaustion.
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They would be pretty much immune to solo zombies, but they would be ultra vulnerable to swarms. If they get mobbed, the zombies will pull them apart. And with all of that heavy armor, even the most fit of them will not be able to run for very long.

What you need is something more lightweight, but still bite proof. Like a heavy plastic.

I suggest pic related. It only has three exposed areas: back of the knee, armpit, fingers. Of those, fingers is the most likely to come under direct attack, and if a zombie gets to have a go at your hands with its face you have already fucked up something pretty bad.

You can still use melee weapons, but combined arms is probably best. Swords/clubs/maces for solos, low rate of fire guns for emergencies/groups.
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>>25057836
Halberd Formation.
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>>25057830
Ideal conditions.

New York City, its spring. The zombie apoc is in the "Empty city with a few large groups of undead wandering aimlessly" phase.
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>>25057852

And, of course, I forget to actually post the pic.
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>>25057836
Tactics, I'd say. Have a bunch of unarmored people lure zombies into choke points, where they take cover behind the armored dudes (shield wall style) who grind the zombies up or, if the swarm proves too large, retreat into a previously fortified shelter.
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>>25057759
>>25057753
You can run in plate, y'know.
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>Suppose some guys get themselves caught in a zombie apoc, and they are metal heads and renaissance era enthusiasts
Why not just set it in medieval times?
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>>25057788
You would have to have a box phalanx of at least 5 ranks on each side, with the back 2 rows firing over the firing over the front of the wall. Essentially, push for 50 feet, hose down the crowd, push, swap out the front rank, move forward.

You could do a pretty good haul to another location as long as you had plenty of backup waiting there to hose down what's left of the zombies. It'd be good for ammo conservation.
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>>25057910
Yes, but not for very fucking long, and you'll be making a shitton of noise.

Honestly, yeah. You'd be unbeatable until they topple you, which they may do because you're banging and clanking with armor and weapons.
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>>25057925
Cities not big enough, I'd say.
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>>25057925
If the environment is different or the culture is really different it creates a bunch of unknown variables people can argue. So its New York, spring-time, typical "Empty City with a few swarms" setting. That way the ONLY thing being measured is the equipment and tactics.
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>>25057663
I'm all for sword and axes and shit, but metal armor is stupid. Zombies ain't gonna have any real weapons. No point wearing yourself out in fucking full plate when some thick leather will do.
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>>25057700
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqC_squo6X4
>>25057955
The only time you get substantial clanking is when the armor is not tailored to the person wearing it
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>>25057854
This.
Or a shield wall with pike men behind.
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>>25057925
>Small cities
>Cities too far one from the other
It wouldn't be the same, you know
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>Slow zombies
>Basically unarmored peasants
>Not using sabre cavalry or the fucking katana (would be funny if this is the only viable option for the katana, apart form "artificial enviroment" japan)
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>>25058104
You forgot the part where these peasants don't scatter in fear if you cut a few of them to pieces, though. Out in the open, I'd prefer to have good deal of space between me and them.
Might be good for room clearing, though.
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>>25058104
Bretonnians VS Vampire Counts.
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>>25057789
I think it was a diver in a completely sealed exosuit
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>>25058104
>artificial enviroment
I keep hearing this but noone seems to explain it.
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How about a riot equipment with transparent plastic shield? (round if possible)
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>>25058209
Yeah, that would be useful. People tend to kinda forget that shield walls are still a thing today.
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>>25057956
1/4 of a million in Paris or London....

more than enough.
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>>25058209
Also if I need to choose a weapon it would be something like a piolet.
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>>25058065

Nah, the plague was passed from town to town faster along trade routes than any other way - it was one of the reasons why the black death was so fucking terrible for europe, the middle east and africa; Basically the places with the more extensive trade networks got hit first and the black death then radiated out from the trade nodes, so the more extensive the empires the hardest they got fucked by it, and then when people started to avoid major cities because of rumors of the plague, the animal vectors spread out on their own.

Hilarious side effect: New World ends up free of zombies, cue glorious Space Aztecs!
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Assuming you start in a city your major aim is going to be to get some where rural that's defendable and has an untainted food supply; less people increases the chance of you going crazy but you have way less enemy combatants to deal with.

Major problem with plate on this front, ignoring the already stated problems of swarming, is that it severely restricts your travel mileage; because plating up of a morning and stripping down at night is going to take you a good 10 minutes to half an hour depending on how intricate your plate is, that means you can only sleep in location that are fully defensible that you aren't going to have to flee in a hurry in the when you wake up, and that is going to be reasonably impervious to Zed Heads; secondly plating up without some one to squire for you is doable, but it's a bit of a bitch, which means that if your group goes down you are even more boned than normal; thirdly plate restricts how far you can travel in a day, even if we assume these metal heads are at peek physical fitness and train constantly to be in top military shape, you just straight up cannot march for as long in plate as you can out of plate, that means you are going to need to find good places to rest up every two to five hours, at a ridiculously generous estimate, and when you rest you are going to have to be able to eat to replenish your carbs and drink to get your fluid levels back up.

All of these factors together mean that your day to day travel speed goes to shit, meaning you are in enemy heavy territory for longer, meaning the risk to yourself is much higher.

Also everyone of your friends that goes down and suffocates in their armor? That's one plate zombie you have to deal with, and while they move slow as hell in their iron shell, unlike you they don't get tired, and your quick and easy bullet/bolt to the brain while they're still 30 yards away just got a whole lot harder to pull off.
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>>25058028
>The only time you get substantial clanking is when the armor is not tailored to the person wearing it
Or when it's getting hit.
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>>25058338
Yes well, that goes for any two objects knocked togeather
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>>25058166
>I keep hearing this but noone seems to explain it

effectively, the japanese were incredibly insular - they sealed themselves off from all contact from the outside world for a long time, and previous to that it was pretty insular too.

then, the culture was extremely conservative - innovation was strongly opposed. you did things the way your father/grandmaster/teacher did, because he was taught that way by his father/grandmaster/teacher etc. so there's almost no innovation, no experimentation.

net result is that japan's weapon designs were in a sort of cultural bubble for most of their entire time.

which is what people are referring to as an "artificial environment". Is it a plausible argument? well, yes and no. I'm not entirely convinced by all of it, but much of it is likely and plausible.

Pic not even slightly related.
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When the zombie apocalypse happens i sure hope it's during Pennsic.

>dshinin should
Captcha agrees
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>>25058265
Yeah but the estimate population of Paris at last census came in at around 11 mil from what I remember, so you need a much smaller percentage of the population to be effected in a modern city for it to be pants crappingly scary
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>>25058338

Or when you're fucking in it.

>>25058332
>armor zombies

but they're actually easier to deal with, because they can't attack people except to batter or fall on them - their teeth and nails are behind the plate.

The real trouble would be the temptation to capture the RMR-Z to try and get the plate back, then you have the trouble of removing the helm off the zombie as it tries to bite people before you can perform the encephlaectomy and safely take off the rest of the armor.
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>>25058447
Knife through the visor into the skull cavity
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>Medieval zombie apocalipse
>Nobles and knights are doing more or less fine inside castles
>Suddently the alchemist comes with the idea of using greek fire
>Fire zombies
>Everything is ruined forever
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>>25058484
Unlike popular myth, Fire is VERY damaging to organic material, able to cause brain death in a variety of ways before it even burns threw the skull into the brain
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>>25058447
These Zombies have armour?
I want armour!
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>>25058406
The thing is even through most of their insular periods Japan was launching pirate raids on China and/or Korea to help support themselves, and stealing cultural ideas form them along with the loot they carried off at the same time; and by a similar vein Man Chu China and Josean Korea were learning from each others cultures, through war when they weren't learning through trade, and then up in more northern china you have the cultural bleed from along the spice roads and what not, so even in times of extreme insularity from China and Japan; both cultures were still experiencing cultural bleed through from each other.
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>>25058518
yeah, I've never gotten why people don't understand this.
all else aside, slow zombies are going to have their motor functions fucked up long before they can get close enough to do any damage
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How about that expansive foam that is used as non lethal weapon?
Would it be a go weapon against zombies?
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>>25057857
>Ideal conditions.
>New York City, its spring.
One day it's pouring rain and 40 degrees Fahrenheit.
The next it's 85 and not a cloud in the sky.
On Wednesday there's a random snowstorm because fuck you, that's why.

Spring time in NY is never ideal conditions.
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>>25058735
I meant "Ideal for testing" now "Ideal for knights".

Its the standard zombie movie setting, so its leaves no extra variables.
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>>25057663
>Choosing inferior weaponry when guns are available.
Would need to be a heavy parody on the genre, else this would be all kinds of retarded.
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>>25058735
Could be worse.
Were I live rains every day all day, only 1 month a year we have that you call "sun".
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>>25058518

yeah because DNA gets fucked up at temperatures above 70C.

This is where zombies get complicated though; how do they work? Because if it's God's Punishment or Hell Filled Up or Magic that's making the zombies move, you've got FIRE ZOMBIES.

If it's handwaved "scientific" zombies, with a virus that just turns people into cannibalistic alzeimer's sufferers, then napalm's pretty good.

Thought as far as I know more settings have zombies and other undead be weaker against fire than regular things.

>>25058566
Well it's the issue of which Japan we're talking about, GREAT PIRATE QUEEN japan, or inbred kyoto japan? Regardless of what the official governments said about closing their borders, the fishermen and traders on the western side of the islands would have been in contact with Korean and Chinese fishermen at least at sea, if not occasionally landing at chinese and korean ports, if only to repair damage from storms that pushed them towards the mainland.

The oceans and winds don't give a fuck about your lines on the map.
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>>25058712
>would a non lethal foam be good against zombies
Man
Do you even read what you type
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>>25058752
How about if they were mounted knights that used vehicles? Steamroller Cavalry?
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>>25058781
he means the kind of foam you spray and it hardens within seconds, like in that superhero movie. I think it was one of the Hulk ones.
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>>25058518
So is bleeding out, dehydration, weakness and freezing. And without a survival instinct and a functioning immune system, how long would it take before the corpse is eaten or decomposed too badly to even shamble nonthreateningly?

Rules of the living don't apply to zombies. I shouldn't have to explain this, but in reality dead things aren't animate for a reason.
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>>25058752
Just assume zombies that are attracted to noise. There, guns just got a lot less attractive.
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>>25058779
Thank fucking Jesusallahsolinvictusbuddha someone finally had the sense to put quotes around "scientific" virus zombies.

As for Japan, it really was more, we're officially closed, but fuck if that wont stop jackasses outside of major cities from doing crazy shit like trading outside of Japan.
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>>25058857
>So is bleeding out, dehydration, weakness
all of those are ignored because the zombie generally isn't living, and doesn't care about non debilitating damage

Fire and freezing, on the other hand, are quite the reverse. They don't care that the zombie doesn't care, they'll still fuck it up
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>>25058778
Yeah, but you know that it's going to rain everyday.

I have to deal with shit like having to put my air-conditioners in one day and burning fires the next because somehow the weekend is 5 degrees above freezing. You can't prep in advance, you'd head out to deal with zombies and half way there the weather would just take a shit on your head.
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>>25058857
Isn't that still the endgame in High School of the Dead? Survive for a few weeks and the problem will take care of itself.
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>>25058857
Or to rephrase what you said so it's interesting:

>As a zombie apocalypse continues, the likelyhood of meeting a zombie with a body infested with a hornet nest approaches 1
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I think warhammer and maces would be great for zombie bashing.
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>>25058988
I meant warhammrs or a warhammer Btw, throwing plastic minis at the undead probably won't solve anything.
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>>25057663
Surprisingly effective strategy, actually. Full plate makes you essentially immune to romero zombies.

The only threat is attracting a massive crowd of them and getting crushed to death, which you can avoid by not being completely stupid. A gun makes a lot more noise than a battle axe, even accounting for the clanking of full plate.

That said, you would still carry a gun, but a combat ready mace, battle axe, or longsword would actually work very well if you picked your fights carefully.

>yfw a zombie apocalypse would usher in an era of real life paladins smiting evil
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>>25058857
Thing is, and really think about this, it's not Zomibies are on fire and now shambling towards whatever, it's zombies are on fire, and depending onthe heat of the flames may make it a few more steps, there's a reason Napalm is suggested by people who actually think these things through. If it's magic zombies you're fucked anyways, if it's SCIENCE! zombies, they still need certain things to fucking move, you know ligaments, tendons, and musculatures, all thing which even in death can get to 3rd degree levels quickly.

Facethe facts, faggots who suggest this shit have probably never even been near hot grease (350 degrees F) nor anything else with any appreciable amount of heat, nor have the ever been near something cold enough to cause frostbite, nor unsterstand just what the fuck frostbite is and how it would actually be MORE damaging to zombies/ghouls than living humans.
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>>25059061
HAHAHAHHAHAHAA, thats amusing... Some of the fuckers are kinda pointy tho, really cheap and shitty caltrops?
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>>25058778
I went to Scotland for a while. Once, the clouds parted, and all the locals just sort of stood around in awe, pointing at the sun and whispering in reverent tones about the great orb of fire in the sky and consulting the locals shamans.
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>>25059079
>really cheap
I laughed way too hard at this.

Fuck you GW. Fuck you.
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So how long do zombies survive? Shouldn't they just rot away entirely in the span of like, a few months anyway?
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>>25059118
did you hang around for the ritual sacrifice of a virgin?
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>>25059136
After a zombie "plague" hits, well it would be damn cheap, and an interesting way to pass the time in the safe house you finally get to.
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>>25059078
Zombies that don't survive overnight because they can't keep up a body temperature in their dysfunctional state would be quite boring.
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>>25059140
Or, depending on where you live, freeze solid.
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>>25059145

There are no virgins in Scotland.
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>>25059162
>just got to the final safehouse
>evac is coming
>decide to play some tabletop to pass the time
>the door slams open
>That Guy strides in, he was safe all along, as the zombies fled from his fell presence
>"Playing 40k? lucky I brought my Grey Knights with me!"

wat do?
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>>25059224

Cut off his arms and legs and tie him to my back. Keep him around as an anti-zombie shield.
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>>25059224
Catch him as a hostage and use him as a shield against the inevitable hordes attracted by the helicopter
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>>25059189
True that, and seriously that is the only reason the stories can get made, ignoring that all you have to do is either go to the snow line, or fucking wait for it to fall below 32 degrees F.

>>25059224
Boot him right the fuck back out and make sure it's barred right the time, he's an expendable casualty.
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>>25059212
>>25059212
in between visits from the great battered mars bar in the sky, the Scottish scour the lands so they can appease it when it arrives.
The few they do catch tend to die of old age before it comes.
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>>25058484

> Nobles riding out the zombie plague in their manors, holding parties
> I put on my red robes and death mask

Try again, Prospero.
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>>25057663

They'd probably get killed pretty quickly if they came across a larger group of zombies. The zombies would just grab onto them and when they fall the zombies would pile up on them until they were crushed to death/suffocated.
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>>25059296
Kinda reminds me of Heaven's Peak in Overlord.

Would the zombie apocalypse in OP's description be caused by a magical STD as well?
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>>25057663
The best way to survive a zombie apocalypse is to live someplace where it dips below freezing most of the year. Zombies don't generate body heat, and so they'd become immobile. Even when it only drops below freezing at night, the zombies would be significantly slowed well into the day, as their bodies would take some time to thaw.
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>>25058566
>The thing is even through most of their insular periods Japan was launching pirate raids on China and/or Korea to help support themselves

Those were only rogue lords and not the whole country though. When the Nips fought the Koreans and Japs in the Imjin war not a single fucking one of them knew how to fight in a 1500's Naval Battle (i.e. Naval Gunnery, while Japanese Naval combat was still boarding-based using towering ships) while the few piratical lords who never joined in fought using Chinese ships instead of native Japanese designs.
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>>25059335
What if it's the cold that brings them?
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>>25059224
we pray
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>>25059409
Well then that's a whole other thing then, isn't it? Armor doesn't do shit against White Walkers anyway.
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>>25059355
>When the Nips fought the Koreans and the Chinks*

Sorry.
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>>25057836
Just have numbers. As long as you have enough dudes that the zombies can't just cover all of you in flesh, you'll be fine.
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The issue here is that if you choose the plate armor you shouldn't try to act like the typical zombie group that tries to evade the undead forever.

As some people have suggested, shield walls are pretty effectice, and if the zombies are starting to form big crowds a little fire can be devastating. A group of knights should try to create fortified temporal bases while gathering resources and intel, clearing the area in the most efficient way possible and move to the next place.

A priority should be finding a permanent base in a place with a weather that fucks zombies up.
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Could said zombies use simple hand weapons or no?
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>>25059409
You're fucked then.
Besides, if magical winter zombies are a thing why aren't there any fucking Wendigos?
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>>25059487
So... Found a paladin order.
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I've said it once, and I'll say it again. If you want to survive a zombie apoc, you get yourself a shark suit.

Neptunic makes titanium suits that weigh 15 lbs and are rated for all but great white bites.
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>>25059519
post apocalyptic paladins, hmm...as long as they dont go apeshit religitard, then a future utopia is a very real possibility
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>>25059542
But they don't really help against crushing damage from zombies slamming into you.

Plate armour is better for that.
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>>25059519

They'd be mostly LARPfags, so it shouldn't be hard for the idea to sink in.
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>>25059487
I'm not sure if liberal use of fire is a good idea. There are no more firefighters, and fire has a tendency of spreading.
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>>25059212
There're always newborns, wizards, and people on /tg/.
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>>25058332
>Have several 16-wheeler trucks
>outfit insides with bunks
>Have 20 knights in each
>ride around in zombie infested world tearing everyones anus apart

not that hard.
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>>25059598

Silence fool.

But yeah, it shouldn't be used recklessly. Only in open areas or as a last ressort
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>>25059542
holy shit, couple grand cost, but this essentially guarantees that you will survive the apocalypse, unless you become infected by other means
Neptunic Nemo II and a polearm, and you shall rule
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>>25059224

*GRAB HIM BY THE THROAT*
FUCKOFF?
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>>25059580
A zombie isn't going to be wielding a weapon that could do any amount of significant crushing damage, and if it could, then plate armor would be the last thing that you want to wear. Plate can pinch and deform, and if your knees get pinched, you're immobile.
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>>25059355
>while the few piratical lords who never joined in fought using Chinese ships instead of native Japanese designs.
What pirate lord wouldn't want to take Chinese and Korean womens with his junk?
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>>25059409
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>>25059542

Oh look , he read that dumb book too.
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>>25059636

>/tg/'s truck convoys spreading chivalry across the land.

Only problem would be the ever lacking fuel.
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>>25059655

How would you protect your face
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>>25059636
Shit man can you imagine the stench of 20 people sleeping in a truck along with their zombie-gut-soaked equipment.
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>>25059580
Use both. You can use the suits for scouts or resource gatherers who need to be quick on their feet and carry lighter loads into the area of operation, and have the plate users come in later and sweep the area on killing runs.

>>25059721
Horseback or siphon as you go.

>>25059740
Riot helmet, plate helmet, chain helmet, full-body suits...
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>>25059721
>>25059636
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>>25059743

Smells like adventure to me.
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>>25057788
Lot of Variables to deal with. If you can kill enough Zombies, keep mobile and not fall from Exhaustion sure.

You get bogged down and have to turtle the bastards? I don't like your odds.
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>>25059636
>>25059721
>>25059789
>>25059787
So what's our coat of arms going to be? Solarie's, 100 Years' War England, the Angry Marine symbol or something different?
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>>25059409
>White Walkers attack Westeros
We'll build a giant wall out of ice.
>White Walkers attack Byzantium
Greek Fire, Greek Fire everywhere.
>White Walkers attack Russia
We will drown our dead men, in living men.
>White Walkers attack Nazis
Ve vill overengineer an obsidian gun, und not procure enough obsidian to arm most of ze units.
>White Walkers attack Yugoslavia
No one notices.
>White Walkers attack 'Murika
Thick layer of fat protects the citizenry while they dual wield shotguns and ARs.
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>>25057759

Not wading into melee combat with what essentially are one-hit-kill melee creatures.
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>>25058735
I thought that shit only happened over here in Minnesota. Screwy.
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>>25059863

Meant to quote >>25057836
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>>25059868
I lived in MS until recently. Then I moved to IN. One day it was 95, the next it was 50, the day after it was 100, the fourth 40.

Make up your fucking mind weather.
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>>25059847

I'm a sucker for sun iconography, but thinking about differing tastes...
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>>25059296
Beat me to it.

Masque of the Red Death, bitches.
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Many were killed when the zombie apocalypse finally hit. But a few were prepared.
It started with a small group, garbed in heavy plate and fleeing the chaos that was the major city they used to live in. Then, as they traveled and fought against the zombie scourge their legend began to spread. More flocked to join the seemingly eccentric armored zombie fighters. Angry men and women who wanted the world to be right again found or built their own armor, and took up a sword and shield.
Thus the Dead Knights were formed. For when you march against the dead, it is inevitable to become one of them one day. But they do it anyway. To protect their world, to save their families, or to avenge their loved ones. The Dead Knights march.
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>>25059847
A smiley face.
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>>25059966
:-)
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>>25059721
>>25059636
>Leave thread to go watch Adventure Time and shower.
>Come back to /tg/'s Knights of the Semi.
>Best board ever.

Ok, now for the inevitable bringing back to /tg/.

Designing "Knights of the Semi" as both a setting and a system. I'll start.

1. d100 or d20?
2. Skills or Class system
3. Setting details. What caused the apoc and why are there Knights of the Semi fighting it like this?
4. If classes, what should the classes be?
5. Additional details?
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>>25059952
>Many were killed when the zombie apocalypse finally hit. But a few were prepared.
>It started with a small group, garbed in heavy plate and fleeing the chaos that was the major city they used to live in. Then, as they traveled and fought against the zombie scourge their legend began to spread. More flocked to join the seemingly eccentric armored zombie fighters. Angry men and women who wanted the world to be right again found or built their own armor, and took up a sword and shield.
>Thus the Dead Knights were formed. For when you march against the dead, it is inevitable to become one of them one day. But they do it anyway. To protect their world, to save their families, or to avenge their loved ones. The Dead Knights march.
>>25059975
Well that was fast.
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>>25059868

I was in Ireland last week. The weather's as bipolar as that bitch you should've never called. I had one day where we got three types of rain, overcast, sleet, hail, and sun in the span of a couple of hours.
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>>25059847
A flaming bomb over crossed bearded axes.
Our supporters are a pair of bald eagles.
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>>25059952
The Corps
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Ye olde plate and mail isn't actually that heavy, it makes you effectively immune to zombie bites and frankly if you can integrate some modern equipment like a Kevlar vest into it it's also useful against human raiders.

It doesn't take nearly so long to put on or take off as some seem to think, nor is it as tiring as some seem to think. You can run, jump, do cartwheels and even swim in armor. It's just not all that easy.

The weight is equally distributed over the body, and even full plate-and-mail weighs maybe 30-40 lbs.

If you get rid of the mail and instead use a bite-proof Kevlar bodysuit under the plate, you've got a pretty good setup. Hell, even good tough leather or a motorcyclists kevlar reinforced clothing is good for that.

The main issue is heat. It'll be hot as hell in warm climates, and you'll need to rest frequently, drink a lot and so on. But in a cold climate it'll be invaluable.

Here's how I'd advise making your homemade zombie armor, /tg/.

1: A Motorcyclists Kevlar-reinforced suit.
2: A suit of metal plate over that.
3: Wear a goddamn camelback so you never run out of water.

The combo of plate armor and kevlar should stop lighter caliber bullets (if you have a good motorcyclists suit) and basically all zombie bites.

For weapons, it's a good idea to have a short sword, hammer, or short spear. Keep a gun handy, of course. Anything you can get ammo for. An AK would be superior to an M16 as they'll crack the skull better, but take what you can get. Shotgun, pistol, even a .22 rifle is fine.

After that, organize your group into "truck formations". You have a group of armored men, you drive out to a mass of zombies and form a firing line. You then murder them until they get to close or you run out of bullets. Hop in the truck and drive away before they chase you.

Your biggest opponents will be human raiders. But as well equipped as you'd be, you'd have a pretty big advantage. They will fear the Dark Knights!
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>>25060007
>bearded axes
don't stop there.
The eagles will have beards
the die will have a beard
each protrusion on the coat will have a beard
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>>25059975
>>25059987

1. I like me some d100s myself
2. Skills, these are just normal people in armor
3. Just like in OP and >>25059975 . A group of LARPers and medieval enthusiasts grab their stuff and join forces in their crusade to clean the land from the undead.
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>>25059678
When women in those ships are pirates themselves? Chinks had a lot of Female pirates.
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>>25059974
:3
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>>25060047
JESUS CHRIST, WHERE'S THE CAR?
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>>25060044
True. Arguably the most successful pirate in history was a Chinese woman. She won piracy - as in, retired successfully in her old age into nobility.
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And all this would be done to a blaring soundtrack of Dragonforce, Hammerfall and Ensiferum
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>>25060077
;3
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>>25060044
Asians like females with junk.

/d/ said so so it must be true!
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>be scout in /tg/'s zombie killing army, decked out in the best dick-ass thief leathers I could find
>scouts about, putting down lone zombies and searching for salvage to call in for the big boys to lug back to the trucks
>find like 3 raider fuckheads around a campfire, one of them has an AK
>wait for one to wander off to take a piss
>knife and throat make a beautiful combination
>sneak back to fire, put a crossbow bolt in the face of the guy with the AK
>rush the other guy before he knows what the fuck is going on and grabs the gun
>stabby stab stab
>loot rifle, no bullets, doesn't work anyways
>bolt broke
You just get those kinda days don't ya, huh scoutbros?
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>>25059975
3) A magic virus. Same transmission methods and general effect as the Solanum virus portrayed in the Zombie Survival guide, but unexplained by science and allowing for more advanced zombies to form, a la Left 4 Dead
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>>25057813
>Doesn't know what inb4 means
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>>25060128
As one of the heavy fighters, I want to let you know we appreciate your hard work scoutbros. You give good information and you're running around out there without our protection, and that takes balls. Keep it up, you're doing God's work.
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>>25059975
d20 system
Class would work the best I think
I think it would be classy for someone like Asmodeus or Satan to start the apocalypse out of shits and giggles, only to rail against the Knights for their paladin-like conduct and courage.
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>>25060169
The perks are worth the risks. We get to any pocketables that are Class 2 or below loot. The list includes great barter items us guys can always get some new toys every now and again.

I dislike the climbing you need to do when they send us out to plant charges to clear rubble. Shit is not fun and almost guarantees a tetanus shot.
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>be an executioner in the /tg/ paladin convoy
>be waiting for the heavy fighters to immobolise the zombies so i can take it out quickly and permanently
>suddenly see a group of 5 zombies rush a heavy
>everyone else is busy
>go after them, praying that he can keep 'em busy and that I can help him out in time
>zombies are clawing at his armour, unable to get a foothold
>he doesn't seem to give a damn
>calmly as you please, while being rushed to the ground, he says "sorry about this, but can you give me a hand? I seem to have run into a spot of bother"
>decapitate the leading two
>heavybro manages to disrupt the remaining 3
>everyone else has dealt with their zombies and comes to help us
>he takes off his helmet, he looks like he's done no worse than a brisk stroll
>good show there, my friend, shall we get some tea going at the camp?

how they handle that shit is beyond me.
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>>25059900
Im....im going to put this on a shield
i have to
i shall weild it with my shark suit and a warhammer in the other hand, no undeath shall haunt me anymore
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>>25060291
Same scoutbro from above, Heavies are insane. Still really cool guys, let me ride on their armor and can pretty much throw me a story to two up when the building is so fucked you can't scale anything to get up and the grapples can't get a hold
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>>25060291
I'm tellin' ya son, the daily prayers. The faith of a warrior in his cause is just as important as his faith in his arms. We can all learn from yer friends example in our holy quest, godspeed young executioner.
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>>25058441
It kinda depends on where you are in the city. A lot of European cities have huge huge populations on the peripheries with essentially rows of apartment complexes and the inner city can be almost dead during work hours or after them.

Alternatively a lot of the inner city population is old people still on old contracts.

Your inner city in Europe might be close to the eye of the storm so to speak, with the periphery being downright scary.

It's different to the US, which also tends to have huge populations in the inner cities. So a lot of zombies would be there too.
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>>25060291
>>25060276

Hey fellow knights, heavy-anon from Sector 2 here. We just came across a slew of fully fueled motorcycles. We're working on using them now so shit's going to be really fun. Heads up, we have too many for us so we'll be sending some your way in the next caravan.
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>>25060384
You're only going to encourage some the the Lancers to be even more douchey. We've the got douchiest ones in the chapter for some reason and they just love to pick me and my scoutbros.
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the problem people are forgetting;

1. Where will you find this armour
2. How will you maintaine it
3. Will you know or find any blacksmiths during the apocalypse?
4. Creating armour to fit you takes time, weeks and months even
5. It takes just as long to train in armour
6. Do you know anything about combat stances/weapon wielding/crowd control?

Personally if it was me I'd go leather armour with padding or metal if I could find it and use a bludgeoning weapon with guns.
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>>25059495
that is one hardcore fucking horse
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>Be /tg/ paladin with squire adventuring in the apocalypse
>See small swarm of zombies attacking some maidens
>"What-ho! Squire! The longsword if you please"
>"But milord! You are not wearing your armour! It's still on the horse!"
>"Young squire, when maidens are in trouble you must burn your caution away with courage! These creatures shall be no match for me!"
>mfw I save the maidens
>mfw I knight my squire and have the maidens squire for us
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>>25060417

Vroom vroom motherfucker.

I jest, I jest
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>>25060417
Those dickheads are ridiculously insecure.

Hilariously just waving my executioner kill count seems to enrage them beyond belief. They can't get over the fact that they're our bitches, and that we get to coup de gras their victims.

Honestly, the thought that you're providing a valuable service to the Paladins ought to be enough.
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>In a big city
>Big construction zone nearby
>Hang some meat over the basement pit
>Play loud music to draw the zombies in
>Once the pit is full up, drop down some fuel and fire and zipline to the safehouse
>Rinse and repeat until zombies stop showing up or the pit gets level with the street from all the bones.
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>>25060440

Read the OP post, these nuties are m edieval/renaissance enthusiasts, they already have their own armors and weapons, plus at least some knowledge abut maintenance and fighting with it.
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>>25060478
Where is the honor in that?
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>>25060440
I actually own several sets of armor, i enjoy smithing as a hobby and its not a terribly hard one to get into, albeit not terribly cheap either, but since alot of you fags are into 40k tabletop i assume you got extra cash.
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>>25060494
Talking about honour when fighting soulless monsters.
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>>25060447
>not being in your armor all the time bar rest and bathing
>>25060462
Rev that thing at me one more time and I stop looting porn mags for your squad. I don't care how much you pay for em.
>>25060477
I have more fucking raider kills on my knives than most of those guys have zombie kills.
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>>25060478
>or the pit gets level with the street from all the bones
Then you dig a new pit.
I'd say "there's plenty of earthmoving equipment", but I doubt you can operate any without drawing the horde.
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>>25060477
>>25060417
Yeah, I wouldn't worry about the lancers.

They're afraid that they'll be replaced once we've got a good supply of old military vehicles, and honestly they probably will be.

I feel bad for them, they'll need to find new jobs.
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>>25060447
>tfw your longsword is your penis
>tfw your squire was 'only holding it'
>tfw you forced some women to 'squire' for the two of you.
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>>25060508
>being this pleb
Go back to your hut, peasant.
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I kept thinking this same thing while watching the Walking Dead. Then I'd remember that I sure as hell would not be able to sport full armor in a Georgia summer. But definitely the right track here. Sign me up for the Zombie Apocalypse Paladins.
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>>25060511

Calm down friends, that some of the lancers in your chapter are particularly cocky should not be enough to divide us.
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>>25060532
They'll probably get sent off to beef up the outrider division one of the heads is trying to form up. I'd say waste of fuel but honestly we ain't running out as long as people don't shoot fucking cars before they get siphoned.

THEY ARE MARKED LIKE THAT FOR A REASON!
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All these fools in fuck-huge platemail falling over each over while swinging stupidly overlarge swords.
Niggers please, chainmail and spear is where it is at.

Plebs unite.
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>>25060555
So you want to join up with ZAP do you boy?
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Aside from the imagery, does it have to be full plate?
You'd almost think that a set of maille would work just as well, so long as it covers the entire body.
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>>25057756
And those dicks with guns that shoot you theyre a threat too
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>>25060478
Now that is what I call a strategy!
Good Show sir.
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Attacking a zombie or other infectious blood-borne disease-carrying monster with a melee weapon is just ASKING for infection. Oh, you've got a cut on your arm and you just got soaked in zombie blood? Have fun with that infection! Oh, you got a headshot at point blank and the wound sprayed zombie blood directly into your eyes? Enjoy eating brains.

It's suicide, I tell you. Suicide.
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>>25060576
We should establish a code of conduct or something, their recklessness will eventually get some young squire or courageous knight hurt in battle.
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>>25060584
wait, Zombie tactics have always been throwing wave after wave of their own men at enemies!
My god... it all makes sense!
Paladins, unite!
We have the enemy commander in out sights!
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>>25059721
Put simple metal stills on the back of trucks (welded) and dump in crop detritus to ferment into ethanol fuel.

Wood gas and methane work as well.
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>Main problem with heavy armor is getting pulled down
>Can't get back up
>How to fix this
>Get your squire in a tower crane
>Connect yourself to it
>"Peter pan" in your heavy armor through the zombie hoard
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>>25060601

I keep saying that dividing ourselves into classes was a shit idea, we can still go back to be all paladins before this factions banter goes too far.
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>>25060601
it's gotten worse.
apparantly a pre event scientist known as the Jim, man of Stein (presumably a descendant of Frankenstein), created a meat based product capable of walking talking and singing, and we have records of it!
It's been causing no end of Motorbike recklessness
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>>25060599
>implying I ever get blood on anything I carry besides knives and bolts
Zombies are so fucking stupid it's hilarious. Scouting is awesome.
>>25060630
It helps with morale and discipline. There isn't really much hate beyond petty rivalries and those go out the window when the hordes show up. We need specialization as we can't just suit up everyone the same way and it would be both inefficient and a waste of human talent to do so.
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>>25060374

Ironically, Parisian survivors could fortify the Catacombs and use them to move about the city with as little surface travel among biter-clogged streets as possible.
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>>25060619
It's beautiful.
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>>25060630
It's only the lancers, and that will die down once they mature or start taking casualties.
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Just get a set of biker leathers. Just as bite-proof as plate but quieter, more maneuverable, more comfortable and easier to put on. Put your helmet on in combat and you're golden.
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>>25060599
There is no other way to engage such a foul creature than in honorable combat. When we can engage the disgusting beasts on equal footing, only then may we properly purge the undead flesh from our lands and restore righteousness to the human race.
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>>25060673

There's a difference between specialization and the formation of factions. The day they start refusing to help eachother because of a grudge we should dismantle the whole thing.

I don't consider myself a lancer more than a paladin that rides a bike.
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>>25060630
not everyone can be a paladin, that wouldn't be very effective for shit like tight quarters fighting or against raider who can just pop you from a distance, scouts seem like a necessary evil
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Wouldn't firefighter bunker gear be biteproof, if sweaty and suffocating as all fuck?

Even without the mask, turnout trousers with boots and a turnout jacket would, in combination with a firefighter's helmet, be a good combination.

You could use a halligan as your multitool/zombie killer.
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>>25060699

And if you find yourself in a corner, light yourself on fire.
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>>25060728

Never said that we should all come back to the shield wall, just that we stop trying to isolate ourselves and realize that we are just squads of the same paladins with different equipment
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>>25057663
Wouldn't shark suits be better protection, seeing as they are made to ward off ites and are not as heavy as full armor

Hell a full chainmail suit is pretty adequate.
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>>25060599
Do you truly expect that we'll be getting cuts under our armor? Against unarmed foes? I assure you not.
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>post-apocalyptic biker knights
>not riding with King Arthur
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>>25060754
fair enough, valid point
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I always told myself, that if it came down to the zombie apocalypse, i would dress in full armor and bind my sword into my hand.

Then, i would a zombie in full plate with a sword bound to my hand when i died. Youre thinking about killing me now? Im thinking the same thing motherfucker.
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>>25060743
I dig the fuck out of the halligan idea.
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>>25060835
kill it kill it kill it kill it Kill It Kill It
KILL IT WITH DRAGONFIRE
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So who will enforce laws and stop the human threats? Can't spread your forces too thin. I am not the strong, but I can climb good and move very fast and quiet. An assassin or kage if you will to deal with the raiders; if you will allow me to serve your cause?
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>>25057663
I would watch a movie about a zombie outbreak at a pan-nerd con
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>>25060703
What is this, pre-Agincourt Europe? Bows have been around forever.
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>>25060909

I'm telling you guys, Round Table.
Of biker druids.

http://www.vice.com/read/all-hail-king-arthur-uther-pendragon
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>>25057847
Challenge Accepted
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>>25057830
Swap the medieval helmet for a modern bike helmet. Still reduced peripheral vision, but definitely worth it for being immune to bites.
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>>25060909
despite our scouting, executing, front line duties, or riding, we're all Paladins, we're all lords!
Accept your place, Sa'Kage
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>>25060974
A biker helmet also deals with things like blood splattering onto your face.
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>>25060957
>dem scopes
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Anyone hear the rumor that the smiths have replicated that prototype super-sledge artifact we found in that base a few months back? The breakers are looking a bit more giddy than usual.

I would too, I saw that thing just wreck entire concrete barriers with a swing!

it's a shame my lanky scout frame can't even lift that monster
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>>25061048
I can't wait to see it. It's a shame it'll be used mostly to crack open buildings, though, I always do like seeing a zombie get flattened.
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>>25060923
It would take forever to notice.

Con nerds gonna con nerd.
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>>25060957
Fairly certain that thing is illegal in Bloombergistan.

Also enjoy your giant rock shit after dem MREs
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>>25061109
Zombies is more like it, given what that things puts out.
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>>25059462
Ummm....

You do know how they get mor zombies right?
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>>25061151
>>25061109
Sadly, that sort of thing is too great a risk to use on the front line.
Perhaps if we could modify it to give a more concentrated blast in a small area, that would give the rotting bastards reason to pause
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>>25061199
I'd like to see them make more if they can and put them on our trucks. Us drivers get awfully bored of not getting to fight, you know.

Just imagine, smashing through a whole army of those damn rotters.
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>>25061199
That's up the Smiths and I don't understand half of what they do. I just scout about and bring them anything weird or already classified as Class T loot.

Still the thing would be a bit overkill, I just wonder if there are anything more than just the standard fare of zombie.
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>>25061279
I hope not. The ones we've been dealing with are trouble enough as it is, I've seen too many good men die to them.
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>>25061340
Yeah I don't want to run into anything more than regular zombies when scouting. Fucking raiders are bad enough. They're starting to creep me out too, getting more and more culty every time I see em.

Scoutmaster said he'd inform the higher ups about it, so I'm not too worried.
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>>25061253
>dat bayonet lug
105% illegal in Bloombergistan.
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>>25061444
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>>25061383
I've heard some fucked up stories about raiders lately. Did you hear about the group that had been taking prisoners?

I've never seen a group of raiders with enough food for themselves, let alone enough to keep anyone who wasn't scavenging or hunting with them. Whatever the reason is, I don't like it.
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>>25057663
Chain mail could be helpful, but doesn't require a downgrade in weapons. You still get a fort or get the hell out of town. You still use the good weapons in a tight spot (though you can use melee to save resources). You still get yourself one of those pedal-powered quad cycles (whatever the hell they're called) and armor the outside.
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>>25061553
I've been doing some recon on them, but I can't understand what they are saying or they get too close for comfort and I got to kill them.

Freaky shit
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>>25061527
>Glock
Surrender your butthole citizen.

>No Yankees Cap
Don't even bother lubing it.
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>>25061279
Smith here. If I told you half of what we do, your mind would explode.

By the way, Sir Scout, did you manage to corral a few zombies for me? I have a few experiments that need to be tested. We've been working a fungus that will defend our people during the night-time when they are most vulnerable. Theories say that this should also allow us to reduce our energy usage by turning off some of the lights at night.
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>>25061757
Lancer here. We rolled into base last night with a couple strapped to the back.

Easy to take "prisoners" when you can hit and run.
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>>25061757
Still working with one of the Breakers to set up the trap. The sector we in is not good for trapping.

How's the progress on the greentruck coming? I need to grow more herbs for some tonics that I use for the long scout trips.
>>25061784
Lanced up and pissed the fuck off guys is what you got.
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This is what I would be able to gather in a hurry...
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>>25061838
Yeah, happens a lot, what with the pissed off zombies.

Almost got bit a couple times myself trying to bag them up so they won't bite the horses. Found a whole stable of them, decided to switch.

My horse is an asshole. We do not like each other.

I named him jim. I don't like jim either.
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>>25061784
Excellent! Drop them off in container B-31 before you hit the mess hall. Remember: Container B-31. Not B-32. You do NOT want to know what's going on in B-32.

Oh you do? Okay, I'll tell you:

We're working on a way to kill zombies using the sonic waves.

>>25061838
Worry not: The raiders can be convinced to help. In other ways. Your green truck should be repaired. Ask the Fixers.

By the way, would you mind taking this vial of spores with you when you leave? Throw one on the ground in a shady spot, one in the sewers. They should grow and eliminate any detection of zombies they see... takes about a day to grow.
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>>25061933
Right. We'll just leave them in the bags for you. Any other special prep? We can de-limb and tie their jaws closed, if you want.

brother blacksmith, using sonic waves? EXCELLENT
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>>25061933
Do you know anything about that new armor being developed?

I've heard some rumors about all sorts of things, but I'd really like to hear from a Smith.
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>>25061932
I've never liked the horses, They scare me. I've seen them chew on the zombies before.
>>25061933
I've got room in my bag for the vilas, guess I'll put them down in that more zombie infested high-rise area the Scoutmaster has been nagging us all to check out.

I'll check in with the fixer before I bunk for the night, the herbs like being planted at night anyways...
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>>25061974
If you have the time and its safer for you, untooth them or tie their jaws closed. Whatever makes it safer for you to transport them.

>>25061988
Not my department, sorry. I specialize in biology, not metallurgy.
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>>25057850
These things will happen anyway. It's called physical activity.
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>>25059663
>plate
>deform and pinch
you know, mike loads breaks a poleaxe on a breastplate in weapons that made britain.

It didn't d a fucking thing to the armor, and the swing was under ideal conditions with a weapon MADE FOR KILLING ARMOR.

If you think a human body is going to "pinch" or deform even semi-competently made plate, you're a fucking retard.
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>>25062394
We're not talking about humans though, we're talking zombies. Just try and take it easy.
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>>25060440
>where will you find it
Maille and leather in my closet.
>maintain it
Wear it. The friction of the rings rubbing together keeps it rust free.
>blacksmiths
I literally have a photo illustrate dmanual of hwo to produce 14th century armro behind me by a professional armored, explaining the whys, hows, neede dmaterals, time, and giving step by step instructions on two or three of EVERY pice of armor- gauntlets, helms, poleyns,. cuisees, ect.

>weeksa
>months
A skilled man with period technology can turn out a set in two days.

Modern gear speeds this.

>train
Sure, if you want to kil other armed and armored men.
>cp,bat stances/weapon wielding crowd control
Drowd control has literally nothing to do with this. Virtually all of the principles are gone with zombies.
As for the rest:
Yes. And the terminology you use shows that you don't.
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>>25062394
>It didn't d a fucking thing to the armor, and the swing was under ideal conditions with a weapon MADE FOR KILLING ARMOR.

>weapon specifically made for killing armor, born out of the need to destroy armor
>used extensively for a period of time
>some fag once breaks the shaft trying to use the weapon
>conclusion: armor is invulnerable
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>>25060589
I own maille:
No. It's as heavy as plate, restricts motion more, and a complete pain in the ass to deal with.
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>>25060599
Wear.
Clothing. You won't have exposed cuts that way.
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>>25062595
>weapon made for a task fails horribly
>strongly suggests that much weaker strike from limbs, which are made of soft skin, will probably be far less effective and have virtually no effect
See, this is what a literate human being would get out of that post.


>extensively used
It wasn't. Most evidence of the poleax points to it as a tourney and dueling weapon, and there are plenty of accounts of men knocking bits and pieces off of each others armor with them and both walking away.


>invulnerable
If you're the type of person who thinks it was defeated by wailing on it?
Yes, it was.

If you understand that fighting in harness involved a lot of wrestling with the weapon, grappling, and inflicting of concussions followed by half swording or using a dagger to attack the mail voider or eyes?
No.
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>>25062610

Where are your arms!?
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>>25062940
Don't bother him about it. He needs to find Clementine
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>>25060445
Have you been around horses? Those fuckers nip at people a lot, specially the Alphas.

But yeah, they dont tear arms off people.
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>>25058987
>As a zombie apocalypse continues, the likelyhood of meeting a zombie with a body infested with a hornet nest approaches 1

Jesus Christ no.
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>>25062775
German and swiss mercs are routinely depicted carrying halberds.

You could also look at the Dacian falx vs. Roman armor for a grasp of what happens when a polearm meets plate. I suspect whatever you would be wearing in an apocalyptic scenario might be a bit less skillfully crafted than expensive 16th century plate.
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>>25059224
Tie him up, stuff something in his mouth to shut his ass up, and have a means on hand to quickly untie and ungag him in case you need his zombie-repelling properties once more.
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>wandering paladin folks careen by on motorcycles
>yyyup
>continue tilling field, listening for the jingle of bells that means zombies are climbing on my fence

You only really get stragglers out in the country. My biggest threat is bears.
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>>25063308
You continue to miss the point.
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>Zombie apocalypse
>Live in Finland
>Below 0 for most of the year
>drops to -40 celcius or under in winter

Sometimes you can actually hear how the cold tries to break the world. Trees snapping, metal changing shape and ice booming(that's a scary fucking sound if you're ON the ice during nighttime).

So, zombies in here. I guess we'll have to get our axes and go bash in some frozen heads. Imagine, a solid mob of frozen zombies, 2 mil in size, and kids and teenagers and elderly beating them into pieces because the grownups are at work.

....Kinda reminds me of a story my great-grandfather told me about the Winter War. He was a machine gunner and during the cold months they had to go into the killzone during pauses(usually at night) and hack the dozens(or sometimes more than a hundred) of Soviet corpses into pieces; they froze solid into kneeling or even puright positions and would have provided cover for the next wave, so they were disassebled and trampled as flat as they would go. After a few waves the ground was practically covered with separated bodyparts and frozen corpses. The following waves always slowed down and started to hesitate when they realized what they wre running on and that made it easier for the machinegunners to mow them down.
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>>25063617
Beautiful. Remove Borscht from premises.
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>>25063767

... Maybe it would be like WW2 with added zombies. Stopping the Red Horde, again, after Russia has fallen to the system where everyone is equal and no decisions are made, ever!

That's actually a neat concept.
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This has already probably been pointed out, but there is chain mail to protect from shark bites, why don't people use that for zombies?
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>>25057719
10/10 Would crusade with.
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>>25064521
Well, the shark mail isn't something you can get at a sporting goods store, and making it is labor intensive, and is a specialized skill.

The type of people being discussed by the OP have access to it, probably, or know someone who does, but the average survivor in a zombie deal will not at all.

And if your undead are supernaturally powerful and have the ability to use their limbs as clublike bludgeons, mail will only stop so much blunt trauma. (also true if they are smart enough to use improvised weapons, whether or not they are supernaturally strong. Really anything with leverage that can inflict any amount of blunt trauma would still potentially cause painful, and possibly serious damage through mail.)
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>>25062557
Well, not that guy, but to add to it, you also have conditioning.

Any random person isn't necessarily going to be up to fighting for their life in mail fitness wise.

(And I include any number of people who reenact. Just because they do it for fun doesn't mean they are fit enough to do it well when their lives depend on it and their is no "time out" or walking away from a fight for their lives with implacable enemies.)
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Shucks, I've got armor enough to cover everything from the neck down, though I'd have to snag something modern for the head.

Sharkmail shirt, know where to go to find gloves and such (hello, local grocery), plate and padding for the rest.
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>>25058778
Funny I live in a place where it's blistering sunlight for 18 hours of the day 364 days a year. We get exactly one day of having those strange things called clouds. We're pretty sure it's aliens just fucking with us though.
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>>25064816
just get a biking suit. those things are armoured like fuck
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>>25057753
Loud armor? Dude, the typical ZA scenario has survivors using GUNS primarily.
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>>25057663
Zombie dogpile is still absolutely fatal. Even if your armor doesn't fail and get you eaten, you'll just be crushed/trampled/suffocated.

Beyond that, lots of the armors you're going to wear aren't actually going to distribute blunt force particularly well, which means if these zombies actually hit and smash things instead of half-assedly trying to tear people open with their fingers and mouths, they're probably going to break their hands and arms (which they don't care about) and damage your armor (which you do care about). And even if they're stupid and just grab and tear, you need to worry less about what they can penetrate (which is very little) and what they can get a grip on. Sure, they're never going to tear apart chainmail/mail whatever you want to call it, but if they can ge a grip on you through the chainmail they might very well cause damage through it (even if their teeth/fingers don't survive the process).

Stiff, relatively inflexible padding is probably your best bet.
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>>25064816
Thanks, /tg/. I've been trying to get motivated and finish making my hauberk.

Pic related, my hauberk and some pliers.
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>>25058338
to be fair, that would be much more quiet then a poor unarmored sob screaming while beeing torn apart
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>>25060497
How do I get into smithing?
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>Inadequate selection of Swords, Armour, Bike kit.
>No Lee-Enfield
>No Flare gun
>No goddamn billycan for my tea

2/10 would not OPERATE
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>>25062557
Mind giving us a title and author name? Sounds like my cup of tea.
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>>25066775
This. I've always wanted to do smithing
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Zombie Apocalypse Survivor : UK EDITION
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>>25059556
There purpose would be the eradication of the zombies from the earth, reclaiming it for humanity. There holy texts would be manuals on dealing with infections in general, and field notes on the nature of the zombies. No religiosity required; there methodical scientific methods would be their rituals and their mythology distorted stories of disease management organisations that tried to fight the outbreak.

>All hail the CDC! Savior of life and banisher of death!
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It's all so very simple.

After the apocalypse happens:
>get biker gear. Leather and padding. Get helmet too
>go to local aquarium, get shark suit.
>go to army surplus store. Get combat boots and other supplies.

Fuck any zombies, they can't get close to me.
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>>25067413
Not as fun sounding as the /tg/ semi paladins.
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>>25058156

Yep that's right
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>>25067474
Ok, then I throw a tabard over that with the sigil of Pelor and go kill zombies. Better now?
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>>25067638
Better.
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>>25063617
Jesus christ that's fucking brutal
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Steel mesh (ie: fencing masks, which are supposed to be able to take a hit from a broken blade) is lighter, allows breathing and protects plenty against anything zombies can do. Make a plate armor out of sheets of that and you're set.
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>>25067795
It leaves you more open to fluids.

Something out of a highly durable plastic would be better
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>>25067819
Well you're not going to be naked under it, plus OP specified bite or claw.
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>>25067911
Doesn't hurt to prepare
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>/tg/ paladin order
We should establish chapters in every nation.

Norway reporting in. Beared axes and shield walls.
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>>25058779
>>25058896
Japan didn't close its boarders to anyone but non-Dutch Europeans. It was still very much involved in the international politics of East Asia and even parts of SE Asia and certain Pacific islands.
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>>25067700

The Winter War was pretty brutal.

Finland versus Russia should have been a done deal, but thanks to Stalins officer purge and the fact that the Finns targeted food, transportation and heat supply it was a slaughter.

It is no fun to be a Russian conscript led by some greenhorn with six months experience when the enemy have blown up your food and ovens and you are stuck in a forest at -40 Celsius.
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>Paladin's face when first encountering small army led by an armored up warlord
>Said warlord's army is utterly loyal because they have seen him single-handedly wipe out mobs
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>>25068121
>mobs of zombies that is
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post apoc paladins that ride around in semis, fighting zombies. let's archive this so we can get shit done.
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>>25058166
The katana IS litterally a cavalry saber, for a noble class where there is little cavalry and most of the warfare is done with spears, naginata and bows.
The katana's "artificial enviroment" is when its being used in a setting, because its cool, while it in RL exists several better weapons to replace it in all scenarios.
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>>25058324
Meanwhile in Norway:
>Just gotten a cardinal seat
>Due poor earth in some regions, reallies on imported corn
>End result that Black Death came to Bjorgvin in 1319 and killed of most of the country, and this its second chance at becoming a large empire state
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http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/25057663/
new thread:>>25069651



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