I tried doing this yesterday, figured I'd try again today. Chaos Biker faction. Let's fluff it out. Going to dump what I made up yesterday.Please feel free to contribute or call me a flaming faggot as I do.
>>26284975I'd make them White Scars that fell to Chaos.
http://archive.foolz.us/tg/thread/26268366/Here is what we did yesterday.They're a Chaos Undivided faction in theory with individual mono-god factions filling them out. The Marines ride daemon-possessed bikes, while the cultists ride highly tricked out motorcycles or go in chimera or rhino back because they haven't earned the right to ride yet. They have as many renegades as hard core chaos worshippers in their mix. Most of the renegades are forced to chunk around in apcs because they haven't given up enough to earn the attention of a daemon, who becomes their ride.The daemon bikes are all maintained by a specialist warp-smith, who is the closest thing to a neutral authority figure amongst the sub-divisions of the warband.
Night Lords spin-off group called the Night Riders
>>26284994That's a bit too simplistic and kinda boring. Making them all just evil White Scars devalue the potential. Though the possibility for a good number of them to be renegade White Scars, or founded by a group of renegade White Scars, is a good idea.
I could have sworn that bikes was a slaaneshi thing.Looking up the lore now.
I figured they'd be heavily based on the Bebop counter culture that cropped up after WW2. The Wild One with Marlon Brando as a kind of key influence, as well as all those grind house movies from the 60s and 70s, where the dangers of smoking marijuana eventually lead you to becoming a merciless hard core criminal. To keep it a bit tongue in cheek.
>>26285007Chaos's Angels.Or Disciples of Doomrider.
So they hold a competition/rally/meet up every ten years or so on a shitty little dust bowl world. Every warband descends on it for a year long festival of decadence. The slavers raid and bring new victims that they will sell to the war bands. The warriors get together and fight it out, with warlords falling and new leaders emerging. The pleasure seekers form vast carnival tents and engage in all manner of twisted pursuits. Daemons are conjured into the material realm, captured for the whims of the revellers or to be honoured as a patron.And it all ends with the big race, where every daemon-biker measures p for a continental blitz. And the winner of the race gets to launch a Wild Ride against a planet of his or her choice, and all the warbands have to help out under their authority as the temporary overlord.But they better get it done in ten years, because the bikers will drop anything to go back to the shitty dust bowl, have their year long festival, and crash out again for another Wild Ride.And most times they get it done in under ten years, with the bands splitting up on every point of the Chaos star, ripping up the warp road. Or sometimes the overlord gets killed and the rest don't give enough of a shit to finish that guy's ride. Sometimes the overlord is just a shitty fucking commander and they ditch his ass to go do their own thing.But every ten years they meet up for their planetary rally, like god damned clock work.
>>26285024The Angel thing would have everyone assuming they're descended from one of those 'angel' chapters.Maybe the Warp Riders or Chaos Riders instead?
>>26285019We hunted around the fluff yesterday and the only all biker faction we could find in Chaos was connected to the Red Corsairs. And they had more of a hunter thing going on.
>>26285019Disregard.Steeds of Slaanesh is a daemonic unit, not bikes.
So here's what I got for the mono-dominant dudes in the Warband from yesterday:So instead of being one warband its made up of dozens of minor warbands that band together, each one having a specific god or combination of gods or no god at all.So you'd have your Khornate band, call 'em the Blood Riders or something. They favour getting stuck in with axes and road hauling guys on spiked chains until there's nothing left but a torso. Big wheeled machines that just crush everything they ride over.And you'd have the Nurgle guys, let's call them the Corpse Kings. Their bikes just spit out toxic fumes, leaving a trail of disease in their dust, the fumes literally made up of buzzing flies swarming out of the pipes. Dudes on motorcycle back wielding scythes. And you got your Slaanesh guys, Diamond Dogs, who are all about going as fast as possible, lightning strikes and raids, doing trick stunts in the middle of battle to show off. Their bikes are more organic than most of the others, almost human bodies that they plug into creating an intimate connection between the rider and their daemon-machine.The Tzeentchian guys (who I couldn't think of a good name for) have warp effects ripple out from their vehicles, the vibration of their engines literally manipulating the physical reality around them. As a result only the best psykers can maintain control of the bike and stave off exploding into a warp spawn while mounted, and only the best of the best can do that while still flinging out spells at the same time.
And this is a vaguely in-universe bit of write-faggotry I wrote yesterday:See now the Guards and the mutants are racing for a spot, thinking if they go fast enough on their pure machines they might earn the right to get up there with the Chaos Marines. Maybe get a favour or two from some grinning god, maybe get some blessed augmentation out of a less than scrupulous dealer of such things, but for the most part they're chasing wind and getting eaten up in the fumes. Some get to sit a daemon-bike and the best of them last a good hour before the speed and raw power rips them apart. And they get the privilege of having their soul stuff keep that bike going in the material world, so they do their part.Some of them get to slip off that meat-sack they called a body and join the daemon-brigade, but only one or two cats ever managed that.See the warp-road ain't a kind god, it'll eat you if you can't keep up.The little brothers and sisters, ninety-nine times outta a hundred they get eaten up, but they try.
>>26285070The True SkullsThe Cadaver KingsThe Diamond DogsThe Riders of Fate
>>26285101Not bad.I'm leaning toward the Warp Riders for the faction as a whole.
Doomrider considers all of them enthusiastic amateurs.
So you know, who are their heroes and important figures /tg/? What grand campaigns have they gone on? What have they won, what have they lost? Who are their enemies and who are their friends?Come on /tg/, let's make something that isn't just another Space Marine chapter.
>>26285194The current leader is called Shad'ck. Mostly content to sit around and enjoy himself in hedonistic revelry and games of oneupmanship, his rule of the Warp Riders is punctuated by his fleeting obsessions; when something strikes his fancy he'll lead his forces out to procure or destroy the target of his desires. His latest target was the first daughter of the El-Aim sector dynasty, kidnapping her in an raid that left half a hive in ruins, destroyed a spaceport, and crashed a space station into the planet's surface.
I figure colour scheme wise they're mostly like the black legion, plain black armour, but with individual patches on their pauldrons marking which particular sub-division they belong to along with different colour trims. A bit Death Watch-ish, so not married to the concept, but its pretty similar to real outlaw biker attire..
>>26285274They should also include little customizations to their armor, maybe some graffiti or whatnot.
>>26285264I like! I'm guessing he's the current overlord, and Slaaneshi at that. So a Diamond Dog who is all about keeping the party going.
>>26285290Customised helms and tricking out their gear.Very individualistic. Maybe some of the Slaanesh guys drag along cages to throw captured slaves into.I'm thinking one of em might have a huge Imperial flag they wave as a mocking gesture to the Imperium.
>>26285295Current and I figure either Slaaneshi or Nurgle, since he mostly just sits around doing jack shit and having fun. Now guess which movie I'm referencing.
>>26285314They don't drag along cages, the captives are thrown into the sidecar.
>>26285315Shit, its on the tip of my mind.
>>26285335Does the side car have some kind of ridiculous, grotesque pocket dimension in it, linked to all the other sidecars in the band, and the interior is the most disgusting grungy dive bar in the universe with no physical exit?
>>26285360I'll give you a hint. The climax involves sledgehammers.
>>26285264>>26285295Does Shad'ck look like David Bowie?
>>26285372http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grwfO10JUWEI love that movie, Willem Da Foe is a fucking boss.Shad'ck fights with a giant damn sledgehammer. And in this universe, wins that duel.
>>26285369No, it looks like the mouth of an unspeakable hellbeast, keeping from flying out is just as important as keeping yourself from being impaled on the jagged teeth lining the edge of the seat, and there is no suspension at all. They have taken over an Imperial Battleship and converted it to a massive dive bar/garage/biker den though.
There's really no option for what you name these guys.Let's just look at the lyrics for the title track of this most wondrously metal of albums."You will not find us amongthose who dream of escapingAcross the aether we've comeAll is ours for the takingYou don't age when you live out of timeA thousand years in the blink of an eyeSecrets of the blackest voidknown only to the ancientsFreedom from the planetoidsand the gravity that chains usTo make a fold in space and slipbetween the curvesSacrifice of the sisterhood to do for thosethey serveTo cross a universe in hyper-spatial flightWe ride the warp of space into thewomb of nightOurano's daughter, Hermes' brideMistress of the MysteriesUpon the Warp she ridesNavigatrix of the star-seasShe makes a fold in space, we slipbetween the curvesSacrifice of the sisterhood to do for thosethey serveTo cross the Universe in hyper-spatial flightWe ride the warp of space into thewomb of nightYou don't age when you live out of timeA thousand years in the blink of an eye"Other highlights of this album include "Night City", a song which fits Comorragh perfectly(perhaps they have a running rivalry with a Dark Eldar Kabal?)
>>26285400He might not win the duel, be interesting to see what happens to him after he's made bitch in front of his entire crew.
>>26285407And they've put a big damn racing strip all through the thing, going as fast as fucking possible in death races to pass the time. A lot of rookies end up plastered on the walls because the turning is too damn tight for shit-birds to manage.
>>26285425There are sections where the artificial gravity has failed, and this has not been repaired, leading to three-hundred meter jumps and zero-gravity mid-race combat.
>>26285417So, "Ourano's Daughter, Hermes' Bride" would apparently be Peitho, who is obviously their contact within the Navis Nobilite, and one of their most usefull allies
>>26285419You saying you don't want to see this become corrupted into his demonic bride, with the traditional hero turned into a mindless servitor after the Warp Riders have reduced the world to smoking rubble?Ouch, I cut myself on my own edge.
So what's the name of their cruiser dive, and their big rally planet?
>>26285459I would like that just as much as I'd like to see an ex-guardsman, his techpriest buddy, and jackass adept go to retrieve her with the help of a glam obsessed mutant and cadre of Water Caste unwillingly roped into the whole mess.I really need to get the dvd.
>>26285487You have very nearly described my last Black Crusade campaign
>>26284975Please make Doomrider their champion. I would love a warband that generalizes on all stereotypes that surround harley davidson subculture. Make the bikes slower, but heavier and sturdier. Give them something leather to wear over jet black/silver armour.Beards and long hair like SW, a nice break from pale&shaved boys most marines are.And maybe add a touch of noise marines to provide music and drugs to the warband.Oh, and capes.
>>26285438That is an absolutely phenomenal idea.
>>26285508Doomrider is a good friend that is something of a personal hero to each and every warp rider. Even the guys who hate Slaanesh look at him and go 'Damn, wish I could be that mother fucker."And every other century when he rocks around they go crazy for him. He's their god damn rock star. They go on the biggest damn ride, tearing up everything.
>>26285510The zero gravity sections can also have huge loops, which you can't do anywhere else.WE F-ZERO NOW!
>>26285438The most dangerous course, available to only the highest echelons of the group, is Captain Johnny's Rally, celebrating the capture of the vessel by the first overlord. A nightmarish course of twisting turns and pitch-black corridors, the racers have to enter the track by warp portal before braving a course full of servitor-controlled weapons, deadly mutants, and escaped warp creatures.
>>26285419I'd say if he lost he'd have to contend with the heads of all the other factions to maintain control of the Riders. The Khornate aggressive shit waiting in the wings might challenge him to a duel. The Tzeentch guy might think his will is weak enough to manipulate. The next Nurglite/Slaanesh guy down would be using it to paint him as too weak to continue riding and challenge him and it all comes ahead in a giant race.The question is, are they wrong?
>>26285534Sections of it cross through Webway Portals into racetracks in Comorragh, where Dark Eldar Reavers and Helions occasionally join in the race.
>>26285529http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvwgkhjVM7wThis soundtrack must be played when the miniatures are fielded.Tfw Chaos worlds suddenly seem an awful lot more appealing.
>>26285552F-Zero but with Warhammer 40k.IT MUST BE DONE!
>>26285552Pure awesomesauce. And I don't even like bikes or deldar.
>>26285565The ship has its own small company of Noise Marines, not for fighting, but to provide a fittingly metal soundtrack for the races.Competitive races are the only way to advance in rank. An aspiring champion MUST race to prove his right to command others. The more races survived, the better.
>>26285597A fair deal of respect and lulz can be won when a champion captures some dark eldar for torturing as he plows through Commoragh.
>>26285552The incursions into Comorragh by the Warp Riders have given them a vicious enemy in the skyboard gang known as the Hellcat Mongrels. This all female gang led by the one-eyed Di-Di takes pride in collecting the demonic bikes of the Warp Riders and displaying them as trophies around their lair.
So who were the founders?I'm personally going to go with they were originally pure renegade marines who were just sick and fucking tired of being told what to do after their indoctrination broke for some reason.Just six bike squaddies who were members of one of the more authoritarian chapters. They fragged their commander and got the fuck out of the Imperium. ASnd orioginally they might have believed no single one of them had complete authority over his brothers. On the fringe their philosophy attracted like minded traitors and renegades, and it eventually blew up into this big thing.
>>26285597What happens when a rider loses all ability to ride?Do they kill him, abandon/exile him, or do something worse?
>>26285638That sounds pretty sick.Also what is OP thinking in terms of Codex? SM or CSM?
>>26285658Graft him into his bike, like dreadnoughts.
>>26285658I was about to go into a lengthy discussion of like five different ideas, but >>26285670 is perfect
>>26285658It usually means they're dead. A few more technically inclined can find their way as mechanics, but usually anyone who can't ride gets left behind.
>>26285665CSM, they have cultist and mutant members.
daemonettes in the bitch seats
>>26285670But only if they like him enough to do that.They'll make any excuse to ditch a rival.
>>26285688Implying his pit stop crew won't recover his body out of loyalty.
I am SO going to run a Black Crusade campaign set here.
>>26285681If it's using the CSM book then how can you have all for gods appear in the bike squads?
>>26285638So the original six finally fell to Chaos when they met the warp-smith that converted their bikes to being living daemon-engines.He told them he could make them ride as fast as the winds of eternity, with space itself a long road, but there was just a little price they had to pay.And each one fell to a different power, and one of them held on as a pure angry renegade, but they all started forming their own coterie of followers and groupies. What started out as an experiment in brotherhood turned into a petty squabble of power plays for control of the Warband. And it didn't help that the new people started whispering in their ears and turning brother against brother.But they made a pact that when they were riding out into combat they;d forget those games, and they'd be brothers in battle together again. And even as they were killed and corrupted and murdered each other, they never broke that pact of brotherhood. Because when the Warp Riders ride out, they ride together.
Their Bikes are alive and can be fucked while being riden across the battlefield.And we would have biker centaurs
>>26285670Why not make dreadnough bikes? Split a land raider in 2, powertape a jet engine to it and you have bikes for dreads.
>>26285781Nah, just mount a Dreadnought Sarcophagus inside a Land Speeder.
>>26285781I dunno, it isn't the same.If you can't feel the materium rip around you as you go crashing through the warp road from raid to raid, what's the point of even being alive man?
>>26285796Beating other competitors.Also i'm sure Slaanesh could do something about that, or the Dark Mechanicus.
>>26285767I don't think there is a way to really crunch out a lot of the fluff using any rulebook.But the Warp Riders are technically a Chaos Undivided force, so it makes sense that all the gods would be represented in a list.I say this having not gotten around to reading the latest Chaos book.
>>26285781Oh god the horror!
>>26285826Yea the problem is the force org chart
>>26285875Just make a list at more than 2000 points. Take six bike squads.
Dia El-Aim, the Songstress of the Warp Riders.Once the daughter of a powerful Imperial dynasty, Dia El-Aim was abducted by the leader of the Warp Riders, a charismatic snake named Shad'ck the Foe. Dragging her through the warp on a wild ride through the cosmos, he exposed the terrified young princess to the energies of Chaos. Being young and susceptible, the young woman put up a valiant effort to stave off his corruptive influences but in the end she was only mortal.Taken by the pleasures that come with submitting to the Chaos Gods, she was no longer recognizable as the frightened young princess but became a powerful songstress of Slaanesh, composing music in honour of her captors, marking out their horrific deeds for their entertainment.She rides with her Lord into battle, blasting her voice across the battlefield, visiting sweet temptation into the minds of their opponents. She has used her powerful voice to win her lord many victories both obvious and subtle, staving off many of his would be usurpers through manipulating the politics of the warband.A foolish band of heroes are on a quest to try and rescue the songstress, but after so long amongst the warp-bred even the most radical Inquisitor would consider her beyond redemption.
>>26285935i rike itchaos needs more ladies
Shad'ck the Foe, also known as the Cobra. Current Overlord of the Warp Riders and head of the Black Rider Renegade faction.Once a promising young aspirant of the Astartes, he lost his way in a scouting mission against the forces of Chaos. An enthusiastic rider of the biker scout squad, he spent years trying to find his way back to his home world before falling in with a band of Astartes renegades.Proving himself a worthy rider, and far from the ministrations of his chaplain, his faith began to erode under their tutelage. He was briefly returned to his old comrades, but when he got back it was too late. His faith was gone, and he chaffed under the authoritative strictness of the chapter. Before he could be taken back to his homeworld for indoctrination, Shad'ck gave up his position to the Black Rider Renegaes, who stormed the position and killed his brothers. Baptised by this treachery, he was inducted as a member of the Black Riders and introduced to the larger warband as a talented new recruit. He proved himself in the ship-circuit and on Dust Bowl as a rider on par with the best in the Warp Riders, and quickly rose up the ranks of his own faction, before taking command altogether after defeating his former mentor in a hammer armed mounted duel. He crushed the old man and keeps his skull as a fond trophy, one he is often caught conversing with in his more withdrawn moments.The man is a one of shifting moods and interests. He never keeps his focus on anything for long before grasping a new obsession, and quickly grows bored with his victories. He is only truly loyal to two things, his bike and his hammer, and has earned a cut throat reputation as a result.
Guys this makes me really want to collect an army like this...but you can't make an army list with the fluff provided like at all :(
>>26286023Like this, but stick Willem Dafoe's head on instead. >>26285410
>>26286039WELL THEN WE'LL JUST HAVE TO DO IT OURSELVESOLD SCHOOL /TG/ STYLE
>>26286050Hey, you know what /tg/ hasn't done yet? We haven't made a Codex Supplement.Anyone else thinking what I'm thinking?
>>26286060Pancakes for breakfast?
>>26286060hippos are really just big gray pigs?
>>26286060> thinking what i'm thinking....fapfapfap.
>>26286065>>26286070>>26286073>>26286078God Damnit /tg/But no, let's be ambitious and make a full Heretic Marines supplement for Codex: Space Marines, and make sure it can run the Warp Riders.
>>26286060Codex Supplement for Codex: Space Marines.For the Blood Ravens. We must account for extra Librarians and acquired wargear.
You know how in all those old biker movies the main badass would always have an annoying side-kick/jester type? The skinny wimp who cracks the jokes.That should be an official position in the Warp Riders, the Road Jester.
>>26286090Eh, I see why you'd want to use Codex: Space Marines, but I'd be more comfortable trying to make it work with Chaos Space Marines.
>>26286121This lets fucking DO THIS
>>26286143http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hirZFmRwXvECRANK THIS SHITAND LETS DO IT
>>26286121Codex Marines has more versatility, no reliance on the Chaos Boons table, and it's already got the Mounted Assault rule, which we can simply rename Warp Riders. These guys aren't all chaotic, and I think playing up the Outlaw angle more than the cult angle would be good.Besides, Scout Bikers as cultists on bikes.
>>26286159Addendum: I'm listening to "Moondance" by Van Morrison and THIS IS THE LEAST APPROPRIATE MUSIC IMAGINABLE
>>26286159Well, we could always just make new units to reflect the stuff that can't be accurately covered in the Chaos book, and create new rules that allow bikes as troop choices and the like. Like how the Farsight Enclave book can give you troop and rule options not found in the main book.Isn't that the point of a supplement?
>>26286177Addendum: Otherwise you're really just building a list with codex: space marines, but changing the names of everything.It'll be a bit of extra work but could end up being more rewarding.
>>26286193If you think it's the best possible result, I won't stop you. But I don't know the Chaos Marines codex, so I won't be much help.Then again, given it's 5 AM I wouldn't be much help anyway.
>>26286159>>26286169Then can't we just use Codex: Dark Angels?
>>26286216Don't know that list well enough to judge.
>>26286216I'm downloading the Chaos codex now to give it a look through, I'm just not comfortable using other faction codices. Bad flashbacks to when everyone used the new Wolves dex to represent everything, particularly Chaos Marines.
Do they pant bikes red to go faster?Do they ride on ork planets and eldar ships just to prove that they are faster?Just like a normal motogang?DO they have a Onizuka in their cult?
>>26286231That's a thing. They need bosozoku/Jap bikers as well. Every type of outlaw biker.
>>26286228Why don't we wait until Codex: Marines comes out later this year/early next year?>>26286243Saim Hann Eldar? Saim Hann Eldar.
>>26286023Di-Di, Sky Queen of the Hellcat Mongrels.The Warp Riders frequent incursions into Commorragh have earned them the enmity of many Dark Eldar, but none more than Di-Di.Leader of the Hellcat Mongrels, she turned her gang from a handful of disaffected Eldar youths to one of the most powerful skyboard gangs in Port Carmine. However, during a raid on the Old City that would have secured their fame and fortune in slaves and prisoners, the Warp Riders burst through webway portals, shattering the Hellcat's offensive. Half of the Hellcats met their doom that day, and Di-Di herself had part of her face torn out by Warp Rider's chained hook. Her forces scattered, her skyboard stolen as a trophy, and the Hellcats reputation destroyed, she disappeared into the Middle Darkness for years before returning with new followers in tow. With brutal efficiency she killed the new leaders of the Hellcats and began rebuilding their strength.She rides upon a skyboard made from the parts of a captured Hellcycle, its' former owner reduced to a dismembered husk whose soul powers the board. She takes perverse pleasure in capturing the daemonic machines of the Warp Riders and raising them as trophies to herself, often sending their hapless riders back to face the shame of losing their bikes.
>>26286231And they most certainly do challenge Dark Eldar and Speed Freaks, as well as any other rider faction. White Scars, Saim-Hann and Eldar Corsairs.Always looking to prove they are the best.And they trash the bikes of their defeated enemy as a sign of their superiority.
>>26286255No, they steal them, and for every five normal bikes have one bike stolen from another faction
>>26286216>We could use Sammael as counts as for this warband's best champion so that he has a jetbike.>Biker troops so little problem with FoC>No mutation and boon bullshit, and we wouldn't want daemons in this warband anyway
>>26286300nah nigger we want deamonette biker bitches
>>26286300Also knights could be used as elite bikers.
>>26286300We'd need some aspects of the Chaos dex. The mono-dominant groups would probably see some boons and mutations, and some of the cultists that hang on might come in with them already. We'd also need some warp powers since they use warp portals to ride in and ride out of different places. Plus the bikes themselves are possessed and can turn on the riders if they don't think they're living up to the prestige of riding them. From a mechanical standpoint there would be limits on what you can take and how much.
>>26286333Daemonette biker bitches. Anon speak the truth
To summarize we could use:SM Dex: All bike army rules can be used. Scouts on bikes could be deemed as cultists "hang arounds / prospects" DA Dex: Allows the "Lord" to be pretty powerful. Lots of bike options such as Ravenwing Black Knights that add an element of veration.CSM Dex: Add the line CSM bikes can be troops when <something>. Gives you everything this thread discussed from a fluff point of view and lets you max out on heldrakes and bikes in one list hahahahahahahahahaha
Warp Rider Overlord - 75 pointsWS 6 BS 6 S 4 T 4 W 3 I 4 A 3 Ld 10 Sav 3+Unit type: Bike (character)Wargear: Power armour, bolt pistol, close combat weapon, frag grenades, krak grenades, Chaos bikeSpecial rules: Ride or die, Champion of Chaos, Independent Character, FearlessRide or die: Chaos Bikers become troop choices for any warband led by an Overlord of the Warp Riders. Chaos bikes also become mandatory war gear options for all HQ and Elite choices, unless the elite is physically impossible to mount(i.e Terminators, Helbrutes, etc).A Warp Rider Overlord may not take terminator armour or the veterans of the long war special rule.A Warp Rider Overlord may take items from the Melee Weapons, Ranged Weapons, Chaos Rewards, Special Issue Wargear and/ or Chaos Artefacts sections of the wargear list.> just an experiment going off the Chaos Lord 6th ed
>>26286415A naked Chaos Lord with the bike is 85 points in the CSM dex. This guy gets an extra rule so 85 point is a minimum. Maybe make it 95?
>>26286415Why T4 crunchfag. Even scout bikers are T5.And give him some combat drugs.
>>26286460>>26286457> I literally cpoy pasted the stat line for a Chaos Lord from the book, so you're right in that I didn't take some things into account.Warp Rider Overlord - 90 pointsWS 6 BS 6 S 4 T 5 W 3 I 4 A 3 Ld 10 Sav 3+Unit type: Bike (character)Wargear: Power armour, bolt pistol, close combat weapon, frag grenades, krak grenades, Daemon bikeSpecial rules: Ride or die, Champion of Chaos, Independent Character, FearlessRide or die: Chaos Bikers become troop choices for any warband led by an Overlord of the Warp Riders. Chaos bikes also become mandatory war gear options for all HQ and Elite choices, unless the elite is physically impossible to mount(i.e Terminators, Helbrutes, etc).A Warp Rider Overlord may not take terminator armour or the veterans of the long war special rule.A Warp Rider Overlord may take items from the Melee Weapons, Ranged Weapons, Chaos Rewards, Special Issue Wargear and/ or Chaos Artefacts sections of the wargear list.Special gear: Daemon bike (no fucking clue about this one.)
>>26286396Dark Apostles as Warp Road Jesters.Warpsmiths and Sorcerers but on bikes.Elites like Khorne Berserkers and Plague Marines, but on bikes.I think we can make the CSM Dex work.The only real challenge is crunching out the daemon bikes in a way that isn't bullshit.
>>26286494How about Daemon Bike: Depending on the Mark you get a steed like buff that still acts as a bike.Problem is that certain steeds would be really OP as bikes Look at the Nurgle One
now /tg/ we've mentioned the deldar...but what about the kult of speed? im sure they would make an appearance atleast on dust bowl
>>26286563Yea but from a "balance" perspective this fluff has the following issues.>T5 minimum troops with jink saves with a 3+ save is somewhat annoying>some bikes would be T6>No reason for someone not to put all of the FA slots as Heldrakes>if>>26286494 is to be followed then Chosen and Havocs would be on bikes. Suddenly Autocannons / Lascannon relentless marines that can move 12" and turbo boost.
Give them some past conflict with Blood Jaguars or anither /tg/ faction.
>>26286620Maybe a rule that all biker elites have to sacrifice heavy weapons as wargear?
How about deamon bike grants It Will Not Die, Demonforge or ++5? Marks are boring and nothing original. Do you really want this to turn into T6 nurgle cheesefest?>>26286620Yes, Havocs on attack bikes with heavy weapons should be fine.If anything is too strong, make it more expensive. Simple.
>>26286620And maybe an increase in points cost will balance it out some what.
>>26286666> How about deamon bike grants It Will Not Die, Demonforge or ++5?I agree on the marks thing, and these are some interesting options.
>>26286666I don't play loyalist codex's how do Attack bikes work?
>>26286691>>26286666By it will not die are we talking about the Lord's wounds?
>>26286691>DemonforgeJust change it to losing 1 wound instead of a hull point.
>>26286726Yes.I'm going to say yes.
>>26286666How about if your unit is taking a demonic bike you can pay extra for the unit to follow a specific god, each god granting a different ability? Also, what if when a squad loses you have to take a test to keep a bike from killing it's rider for not being worthy?
>>26286765That's not a bad idea.Though there should be an undivided option, as well as specific god ones. But not kill, just suffer one wound. Killing them outright is a bit unfair.
>>26285508Noise marines.... on bikes?I like that idea, part bike, park musical instrument, pipes everywhere, designed to make as much noise as possible.... That could work
>>26286765>when a squad loses What do you mean by that?>>26286783The demonic bike is just a Lord thing right? Cause otherwise things would get out of hand quick
Warp Road Jester 115 pointsWS 5 BS 4 S 4 T 5 W 2 I 4 A 2 Ld 10 Sv 3+Unit Type: Bike (Character)Wargear: Power armour, bolt pistol, power maul, frag grenades, krak grenades, sigil of corruption, chaos bike (upgrade to daemon bike)Special Rules: Champion of Chaos,Independent Character, Zealot.Praise the Dark Gods: After deployment, if a character in the Warp Road Jester's unit (including the Jester himself) rolls on the Chaos Boon table, he may re-roll the result.Preacher of the Road: Friendly units within 6" of a Warp Road Jester must use his Leadership instead of their own.> playing with the Dark Apostle
>>26286859> What do you mean by that?When they fail a moral test or break from combat, I take it.> The demonic bike is just a Lord thing right? Cause otherwise things would get out of hand quickRestricted to HQ I think. Maybe in the fluff a whole lot of people have them, but on the table maybe just HQ or exalted champions and the like.Though since Warp Riders can't take terminators, maybe a specific squad of daemon bike riders could substitute.
Also, don't stop posting fluff just because a couple of guys are playing around with crunch. Let's get some interesting characters and battles created!
>>26286910Yea please. I'm not very creative from a fluff point of view but I'll throw my 2 cents in when it comes to rules.
>>26286895Demonic bikes would be restricted to HQ and either Elite or Heavy Support. One of the specific named HQs could allow you take demonic bikers for both, but that would only be worth it in large point games.
>>26285019such a faggot
The Hunter Duke, Gonzer Scanlon, Road JesterA bald headed, optically enhanced former straight laced Ultramarine chaplain who fell to Chaos after suffering a sudden inhalation of warp dust that drove him quite mad. He's known for babbling along like a lunatic to himself, chatting up spectral beings and writing down whatever they say. Observers insist he is not actually communicating with the Dark Powers, but the Warp Riders take to his lectures with an unbridled enthusiasm, taking even the most gibberish statements as if they were pearls of wisdom imparted by Lorgar himself.He has a keen interest in just about every vagabond and rogue that he stumbles across, soliloquising them as if they were the greatest hero to ever step out of the warp.No one remembers his original name, and he seems to keep adding new names. He is currently known to go by The Hunter Duke Gonzer Scanlon Calgar Theopopolos Shirley MixMaster-Blaster the Tenth, esquire.No one really questions it.
>>26285796Could convert a penitent engine into a dred. And have the marine hanging on the front.
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>>26286973That's a better balanced idea.
>>26285173>Doomrider does cocaine.FTFY
>>26286103could be a small, weak, enslaved daemon
They REALLY like fucking with the Ecclesiarchy.Capturing Sisters is considered as fun as capturing Dark Eldar, since they are harder than the usual captive to break and take a whole lot more punishment. And tying up priests and using them for target practice is a great party game. See how many limbs you can take off before the finally die.
Universal Special Rule: No member of a warp rider warband can take the Veteran of the Long Wars special trait.
Before the Warp Riders came Dust Bowl had been a very different place. A healthy, thriving agri-world, pious in its devotion to the God-Emperor. With green fields and gold fields of grain, and pleasant lakes that saw even the poorest had a meal of fresh fish. The people were humble, happy, and safe.In those days it was called Verdania. It was governed by a Bishop of the Ecclesiarch and provided a way station for pilgrims. It fed half a system.Then a strange pilgrim came on one of those ships that often stopped by Verdania. A wild young man, who drank and debauched and caused quarells to break out where ever he went. Handsome, he caught the eye of a young lady of the church. He pursued her as if it were a mission, and she became receptive to his advances, breaking her vows of chastity.When the Bishop discovered the affair he put the young man to death and sent the young woman to a penitence.When he was being led to a funeral pyre she prayed for his salvation.Unfortunately for her, it came.A warp road jester had caught her pleas on the wind, heard her words through the vibrations of the immaterium.And he told his Overlord, a Diamon Dog Slaaneshi, who took deep amusement in the affair.They sent out to the woman instructions, disguised as the dictates of a holy saint. Blinded by her love she followed them, offering up her own soul willingly to spar her wild lover.A warp storm set on Verdania, ad out of it came the flagship of the Warp Riders.It was only as the drop pods began to fall and the mad cackling broke over the vox network that she realised her terrible mistake, and the doom she had brought to this world.
>>26287245He rode with them that day, using the road jester as a vessel and burning the fool apart. The Doomrider blitzed through the fields of the agri-world, churning wheat to ash, and the warp riders struggled to keep up with the Prince.They slaughtered their way into the capital, killing any that crossed their path. They kept their bargain, they freed the wild young man and his lover. And the lady of the cloth who broke every vow wept when she saw the young man embrace the overlord of the riders like a lost brother, and gave no resistance when he offered her up to him in tribute.And they gave him a suit and a bike, and he rejoined their brotherhood. He took up the bishop and wrapped him in chains. Gracing the bishop with a kiss, he tore across the countryside on a daemon-bike, dragging the bishop all the way until the priest rattled apart all over the road.And the rampage continued, the tread of the bikes ripping up the fertile fields and destroying the crops. The lakes boiled from the warp touch and they pitched the screaming peasants into it, until the waters dried altogether.And Verdania died, and Dust Bowl was born.
>>26287066Nurgle Bikes get the rule Hand in Hand to Hell: When killed in close combat the unit makes a test, if successful the bike detonates, dealing damage to all units in base contact.Slaanesh bikes get the rule It's a Learning Experience: When testing for wounding after after breaking combat or failing a morale test, add one to the, lets go with Leadership, stat.Khorne bikes get War Hell Ride: Treats Dangerous and Lethal Terrain as Difficult Terrain, no longer gets cover save for Area terrain.I haven't really thought of anything for Tzeentch.
>>26287324Tzeentch can be tricky.
>>26287400Yeah, I'm trying to think of things that have drawbacks to prevent total cheese.
This thread is making me envision a "West Side Story"-style brawl between daemon bikers and ork speed freeks, complete with finger-snapping.
Currently there are five major factions in the Warp RidersThe current ruling faction is the Black Rider Renegades - run by the Overlord Shad'ck the FoeThe True Skulls of Khorne - what's the name of their current warlord?The Cadaver Kings of Nurgle - again, need a boss.The Riders of Fate of Tzeentch - need a boss.And the Diamond Dogs of Slaanesh - who also need a boss.The Overlord and the factional bosses form the rider council.
>>26287475They're hep-cats daddy-o.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvkLhmbSgkw
>>26287503True Skulls are lead by Boss Kosoku.Cadaver Kings are lead by Rempit, the Living Regent.Riders of Fate are lead by Call-Me-Johnny.Diamond Dogs don't have a single leader, instead they're ruled by the Council of Raggare which appoints a representative to the Rider Council.
Just some colour schemes I've knocked together for the different factions. Not really representative of the in-universe appearance due to the heavy modification and use of iconography.A Black Rider
>>26287740Rider of Fate.
>>26287748And a True Skull.Nothing amazingly fancy.
>>26287726>>26287731>>26287740>>26287748>>26287757Sorry not to contribute, but how do people make space marine pictures like this? Is there a tool somewhere?
>>26287757>>26287748>>26287740>>26287731>>26287726Not bad but holy fuck would you need a great deal of customization to make these guys pop on a table.
>>26287798Yeah, but then the generator is a bit not-that-great since it doesn't let you play around with iconography. You could make them a lot more visually interesting by using symbols on their pauldrons and chest pieces without needing to do extreme customization.
>>26287953I think it'd be worth it to go further than just pauldrons and chest pieces.
>>26288008Oh yeah no doubt.Chaos armies are like Ork armies, they're only a proper army if they have a lot of customization.
>>26288041The demonic bikes would also be a great place for customization and kit-bashing.
>>26287475Varkuz turned his head and noticed a trembling pile of turbines, exausts and weapons closing in on him at top speed from the right side. On the platform a group of orks was cheering and shouting obscenities even as one of them lost his head to a low-hanging pipe.Varkuz cursed his bike and spat inside his helmet. He will not be bested by some fungus monkey hooligans. He pressed the engine beyond safety, all the time negotiating ruins and rubble at top speed. For a moment the orks were just about to go ahead in this race, but suddenly one of their afterburners gave spirit as Varkuz shot it with his bolt pistol and the xeno contraption slowed down just enough for Varkuz to get in front of it. His mouth twisted in a grimace of contempt as he tore of a flamer from the front of his bike and pointed it backwards. As the weapon sprayed gouts of flame, the orks were engulfed in agonising inferno. A few grisly seconds later the entire orkish vehicle exploded violently sending Varkuz and his bike sailing through the air amongst parts of wreckage and orkish remaings, setting the bike and it's rider on fire as they soared through low-gravity atmosphere."HIGH AS A KITE!!!"Varkuz let out a maniacal laughter as he cleaned bits of orkish flesh from his helmet's visor. Below him, a group of fellow Warp Riders blasted their way through the ruins, rocks and orkish wrecks.Finally, his bike's tires once again connected to the ground, shock absorbers screeching in protest. He was way ahead of competition and many orks have went to the bosom of Gork during the course of this race. Well, except for the one that Varkuz dragged on a chain behind his bike, the beast was still panickly screaming, a testament to orkish perseverance.Varkuz, as befits a madman, took his time to plant some gore-mines shoulf any orks dare follow his trail and with roaring engines, rode off to victory.
>>26285007A Mongol aesthetic crossed with Hell's Angels theme could still be cool though.
>>26285027Now that's cool. Rather than just one biker warband, shitloads of them. And their campaigns are festivals.
>>26285173Doomrider is the top dog of the warbands. He's the king rider, the alpha papa. He comes to the festival, not every year, not regularly - maybe once in a hundred years, sometimes more, but he goes. And when he goes there is never anyone else in the number one spot.
>>26285781In-game terms, use Predator tank rules or similar. Riders who have become one with their bike, and carry the biggest guns on the biggest machines.
>>26288543Yeah, but Doomrider isn't interested in leading the Warp Riders so he's more of a guest of honor than anything.
http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warp_RidersOkay, I put together a quick 1d4chan page. A bit rough, but there ya go.
>>26288380Not bad. I like it.
>>26288476Well now we know what the True Skulls look like. Aside from just the very basic colour scheme: >>26287757Boss Kosoku is now Kosoku Khan, a renegade Whit Scar who liked the whole 'rape and pillage' thing a little too much even by the standards of the Scars.
>>26288747Cool.>>26288936I'm thinking Cadaver Kings should look very Voodoo/Day of the Dead with skull motifs, lots of talismans and fetishes, and mementos from dead members.
>>26289110I'm picturing them riding out on old fatboys and low-riders. Very laid back, almost regal in how languid they are.
>>26287656>The True SkullsKosoku Khan - Former White Scar warrior who quit in disgust because he thought they were getting too soft. Very much still a native son of Chogoris, going into battle with a power-sword shaped like a sabre, killing in the name of Khorne.>The Cadaver KingsPapa Rempit, the Living Regent - A mystic follower of the Great Grandfather, who consults the augeries on almost every decision. He is one of the few members of the Warp Riders who is respected across al subfaction. >The Diamond DogsThe Council of Raggare - a group of petty faced delinquents more concerned with their own personal glory than administrating their band. Pretty much every Diamond Dog is on the council, and it is why they very rarely become Overlords.>The Riders of FateCall-Me-Johnny - A wizard and a wanderer and a thief. Keeps his real name a secret like all his travelling band of mystics. He joined the Warp Riders for the chance to raid areas of great learning so that he could horde it all for himself
Young Faly'var the Banner WaverA cultist given the distinction of carrying the banner of the Warp Riders. He holds a much honoured position amongst the mortal members of the brigade, and he has earned the jealousy and attempted murder of the other cultists.Very few last very long in this position but Young Flay'var has set a record, a whole year!
>>26288804Thanks, you don't know how much this means for a non-native speaker writer wannabe.
The Warpsmith Harlan Hendee ExcelsiusIn the depth of the warp this master craftsman works, marrying flesh and steel to create the perfect steeds. Commissioned by the ones who burn with the need to push their limits, they came to him with a simple proposal.Take a machine, and give it life.Conversing with all the great sages of the Four Ruinous Powers, tempting forth daemons into huis carefully constructed snares, he trapped the warp-beings and enslaved them upon the anvil of his forge, welding their essence into these machine-bikes, crafting a new weapon for the arsenal of Chaos.This genius travels rarely from his forge, pumping out new and exotic cycles, no two completely alike. The few times he does venture forth it is to personally track down needed material.His prestige has grown with this invention such that he now has a whole school of apprentices. But the task of mating daemon to motorbike is no easy task, and many a poor fool has lost his life or found himself the unwilling host of a canny daemon. Some are starting to produce serviceable work, but none yet have the skill to approach the master of the warp-forge.In appearance Harlan is a bronze skinned giant with a long, curling black beard. His left arm is flesh only until the elbow, the fore-arm and hand composed of some strange, malleable material that forms any tool -or weapon- the craftsman might need. His mouth is split by jutting tusks, and he has an extra thumb on his right hand. For a man who has spent many millenia within the warp, working with warp-stuff, he is not too badly mutated.He keeps at hand an axe, a gift he made for an aspiring warlord who had spurned it. That warlord's head now rests above the door to Harlan's forge.
A group of the Dark Angels Ravenwing who pursued one of the Fallen into the Warp, and became what they were sworn to destroy
>>26290826That is honestly the dullest suggestion so far.
>>26290826Thanks for the most generic shitty edgy story thus far.
I'm think you'd need to use a fair amount of different head types to keep them distinct and unique. Particularly the helmetless types.Space Wolves, Blood Angels, Guardsmen even if you can make them fit. Put a kreiger gas-mask on a Chaos Biker and it could look pretty cool.Graft a pair of horns or something on a couple of Space Wolf heads and you'd get a pretty cool look.
>>26291667Also hunt down all the various types of bikes and play around with them.
Here's a couple of pics for inspiration.
>>26292157I shall try to nut out some of the supplement rules while at work since I'll have a lot of time on my hands today on the 1dchan link.
I don't have too much to contribute to this thread OP, but I hope you will watch this Rush Music video and gain some inspiration. The video is of two funky looking drivers (one is Geddy lee) having a race in a futuristic space station thing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EkXfjyzjkk
>>26292636Or at least get some conversion ideas.
>>26284975Plauge marine BikersThey have the same toughness as hive tyrants
>>26284975So has anybody done anything other than archive this and 1d4chan skub?
>>26294863Don't think so. I have no idea how to do that
>>26294863Do what? Its been up for a day.
Some potential faction specific special rules.True Skull warlordSpecial rule: Road HaulIf a True Skull warlord successfully wins a challenge, he straps the loser to the back of his bike and drags his corpse across the battlefield. All enemy units within 16 inches must take a fear test. He may do this once per battle.Diamond Dog warlordSpecial rule: Yer comin' with me!In the first round of combat if the Diamond Dog warlord wins that round he may remove 1 extra enemy squad member, a captive he has taken for his amusement back in the camp. He may do this once per battle.
>>26301015Warp Riders are being put in this new sector. So there ya go.
>>26293513Same toughness as a riptide. Yes, those rotting humans in power armour riding on bikes are as hard to wound as that bigass battlesuit.
>biker armies>no Polecats>mfw
I Guess you should do a 1d4chan page.ALso What are the net steps we must take to create this gloriousness?
Not sure if this thread has necro'd or not. Can we pick a colour scheme that isn't wanna be Black Legion?
>>26305967Please feel free to try a different colour scheme.
>>26289364It's all so damn cool.