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BLEACH QUEST XL
>What is he planning tonight?!


Previous threads archived: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Bleach%20Quest
Bleach Quest Twitter: https://twitter.com/QuestOp
Skills and perks- http://pastebin.com/etq4kyMk

First, let me explain how dice rolls work here on Bleach Quest. I take the best of three, barring any Critical Successes or Critical Failures. Until I ask for rolls, they are not counted. After I get three results for a roll, all others are discarded. Normally I take best of 3. If you delete rolls, I will discard that and take the second highest roll.

LAST TIME
“…Ichigo, I no longer have any right to say anything about the choices you make from here on out…”

He gives you a sad smile.

“…You’ve grown into a fine young man, Ichigo… far better than ‘I’ no, ‘he’ ever was.”

You stare uncomprehendingly at what he’s saying

“…Ichigo, I wish it had never happened, what happened today. But, at the same time, with such a beautiful sky… I can think of no better time to have to say goodbye…”

You scowl, angry and confused.

“What the hell, what do you mean, Old Man?”

“Ichigo, if I am not the one who is in control of your powers, my existence as a conscious entity will cease to be. I will fade away, forever. Because I was able to masquerade as your Zanpakuto as I held control over your powers, I was able to exist as a conscious entity here.

“The moment you remove my control over your hollow, the moment I am unable to be ‘Zangetsu,’ I will be erased by the outpouring of the power I’ve kept a lid upon all this time.”

>You have control
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Can't keep track of all the weird wapanese names?:
bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Characters

Interested in some sightseeing around town?:
http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Karakura_Town

Want to be an expert like Cosgrove? Read the manga:
http://starkana.com/manga/B/Bleach

Too lazy to read? How about some /tv/?:
http://www.watchcartoononline.com/anime/bleach
It’s on Hulu too. Well most of it anyway.

Want more /tg/ related Bleach in your life? How about a d20 system?:
bleachd20.wikidot.com
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>>26460584
"Then why not become another sword?"
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>>26460584
How about we have him merge with zangetsu?
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>>26460584
"There's no way... I have a thousand questions... I have no idea what the hell just happened! You can't just evaporate into nothingness..."
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>>26460619
Wow, you're kind of a dick.
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>>26460584
If I have that much power at my disposal, I'm probably a danger to those I care about if it just pours out uncontrollably. What if we remove your control but you keep limiting my power just to what I need? Let it trickle out safely over time?
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>>26460641
Or have zangetsu absorb him.
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>>26460584
I call bullshit; tulpas don't just go away. Even as a mere personality, that still gives you inherent power. You are more than a limiter Old Man. Stop limiting yourself.
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Via Twitter:
>Q: What happened to Tobiume?
>A: She vanished in the confusion.
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>>26460584
"...About how much of my power have you been keeping a handle of? Because if it's more than half, then I am definitely not ready for that right now."
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Can he become part of zangetsu or become another sword? We will not let him go. He is a part of us just as we are a part of him.
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The End.
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>>26460663
This, 100% this.

"You're more than a limiter, Old Man. Stop limiting yourself."
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Rolled 51

>>26460584
what will that do to me?
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>>26460584
What if we...scale it back? Can we reduce your control slowly, without destroying you?
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Sweet, Bleach Quest!


...I have no idea what to say.
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>>26460584
A masquerade is what you were, Old Man, not who you are now. You told me to keep moving forward and not to focus on the past, so do the same. You don't have to be Zangetsu-pick your own name, become your own being, and flow into a new blade.
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>>26460584
>You have control
>The moment you remove my control over your hollow, the moment I am unable to be ‘Zangetsu,’ I will be erased by the outpouring of the power I’ve kept a lid upon all this time.”

"Then I'll just have to make it so that 'I' am the one in control. You are also my power, then you'll just have to remain until I can can hold the lid for myself."
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>These posts
>I saved my master countless times from this old guy murdering him
>Gave my life for him
>And now that the thread is finally gone... he wants to keep me collared...

Come on guys; we can't do this to Zangetsu.
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>>26460609
Thanks again, Gin!

But... next time, mind putting a http:// in front of the wikidot link?
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>>26460699
Supporting this. Its a bastard sword. One that can be used in one or two hands. Westaboo as fuck.
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>>26460584
Turn to Zangetsu.

"Partner, while I really don't like the way the Old Man held you down so long, I'm not really sure if I'm ready to have my maximum power just yet. Especially not all at once.

Even though he definitely owes you an apology at minimum, do you think there's any kind of compromise that can be reached?"
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Do you embrace it... or do you evolve in a different and unexpected route?
The choice is yours and yours alone.
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>>26460714
that's why i advocated zangetsu absorbing him
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>>26460584
will my powers be gone with you?
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>>26460584
"Zangetsu... you're also a Hollow... would it be possible to absorb the old man? I'm not sure I'm ready for that kind of power if it's as much as I'm thinking... and Old Man... I have so many questions..."
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>>26460725
I mean, I'd rather not have the old man just cease existing, especially because he still makes no sense, but pushing Zangetsu down just seems cruel.
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>>26460699
>>26460688

So something like these two, then?

>If so, I'll begin writing.
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>>26460584
So break the collar and become a different source of power. If you flow beside Zangetsu's power rather than against it, you won't be overwhelmed, right?
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>>26460714
Fucking this.

>>26460748
We don't know what will happen to Zangetsu... that kind of risk is a little too high don't you think?
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>>26460776
more of become your own sword yeah
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>>26460776
Maybe >>26460725
As well, since Zangetsu should also have some kind of say in what's happening.
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>>26460776
I like it, provided Zangetsu is alright with that.
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>>26460776
as long as true Zangetsu's alright with it
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Wait can we have the old man become a bow?
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>>26460794
>>26460699
>Sword
>Quincy
Quincy only become bows.
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>>26460699
or a new weapon have him manifest as our Quincy bow
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>>26460714
Yes; he fought for his name, for his freedom, gave his life... he has more than earned his right to be free.
Besides look at that cover, he just looks so damn happy... lets keep it that way.
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>Bleach Quest XL
>XL
We're ready to get super-sized, Cosgrove.
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>>26460788
we know it's possible due to the jinzen Ichigo went through to gain Mugestu.
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>>26460776
Well make sure Zangetsu is also involved in the negotiations.

Anyone got something better than >>26460725

To add?
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>>26460828
Agreed, no more collar for our partner.

If we can avoid losing the Old Man in the process, however, that would be good.
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>>26460776
I think you should include "You're more than a limiter, so stop limiting yourself"
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>>26460826
so we will have bow and sword, in accord?
our bankai might actually be a bow that shoots Zangetsus if that happens
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>>26460825
>>26460826
the bow should just be mirror Zangetsu attaching its handle to the bottom of Zangetsu and firing fuck huge arrows like telephone pole sized
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>>26460876
>like telephone pole sized
How would we draw it back far enough to get any significant velocity going?
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>>26460850
Well the thing is that some kind of limiter might be necessary, since Zangetsu isn't very good with the concept of restraint, and we're not better.

I mean, do we want to be like Starrk and Lillynette were?
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>>26460863
Bankai would whatever Zangetsu's Bankai is. OMZ would have a completely separate ability set.
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>>26460863
Didn't Ywach have something like that?
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Guys...zangetsu can't go back as before. No collars, no hiding, but the oldman must be saved.

Gaitai is the only solution.
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>>26460863
I want us to evolve in a new and unexpected way SO much. Especially since I always thought that Getsuga looked pretty Quincyish and Ichigos Bankai was more or less what Letz-Sil does to some extent.

Zangetsu deserves to be free of his collar.
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>>26460886
Fucking magic.
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>>26460850
>If we can avoid losing the Old Man in the process, however, that would be good.
I'm okay with losing him. I see it as good building point for Ichigo from character development point.
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>>26460886
Magic.
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>>26460886
SPIRIT PRESSURE SON
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Hey guys was going through TVtropes fanfic recs for Bleach and apparently some crazy person gave us a recommendation.
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>>26460886
>>26460886
>Quincy
we don't draw the arrow merely release them
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>>26460900
OOC, you have a point. IC, Ichigo's not going to let him go without trying to save him first.
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It's time.
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>>26460912
Wait, really?! That's pretty awesome, actually.
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>>26460931
But it means we're going to get /tropers/ in here.
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>>26460900
The thing is that the old man still has so many secrets and shit that he needs to answer for.
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>>26460888
Thats a fairly good point.

Remember, Zangetsu isn't a normal Zanpakuto. He's 100% unfettered instinct, which is why Muramasa couldn't take control of him.

Letting your instincts run wild all the time, especially when said instincts have enough spiritual pressure to kill most humans just by being in proximity, isn't always a good idea.

Old Man may have been a bastard about it, but Zangetsu might legitimately NEED a limiter until we're ready to handle our full powers.
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>>26460912
Tvtropes ain't all bad.


Also, IMPROVAIZEN TIME
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>>26460942
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc
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>Two Shikais with different abilities
>Two Bankais
>Ressurection
>Activate maximum power up by locking the blades into each other
>Voltron/ Power Ranger style fusion scene
>"I FORM... THE CORE! ZANGETSU!"
>"AND I THE FOCUS! SEALED KING!"
>"AND I THE ARM! ICHIGO!"
>Three way try shot
>GOGO! UBER ZANGETSU PRIME!
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>>26460942
>Implying this shitball wasn't filled to the brim with tropers already.

>Implying Cosgrove didn't add himself to the fanfic recs.
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>>26460942
Don't worry the link is to the archive so the real stupid ones won't be able to find the board.
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>>26460942
Too late for that, I've been here for most of the quest. Still, I hope they don't include *too* many tropes in their posts.
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>>26460964
Its beautiful gale.
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>>26460942
Sup?
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>>26460964
Some of the text is kinda hard to read. At least for me.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3Vw2_mAxzk

"Tred lightly... Ichigo..."
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>>26460974
he didn't, that was me
I've gone through a fair chunk of that page, we're better than most of the shit on it
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Rolled 4

>>26460964
Text was kinda hard to read at times, otherwise it's pretty magnificent.
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>>26460942
Mother fucker we get /btards here don't think we can't handle some /tropers/
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>>26460964
>>26460978
The site itself is... interesting (I actually edited on the site regularly before the sanitation bullshit went down) but the community has always been pretty fuckin' lousy.
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>>26460954
That's what I'm trying to say, yeah.

That as nice as it is to say Zangetsu shouldn't be collared... look what happened when we let him out.

Were there ANY positive repercussions besides possibly our bond deepening and him gaining a new form?

Because it looks like he wasn't able to deal any meaningful damage to the Old Man, and spilled a bunch of REALLY sensitive information right in front of Soi Fong.
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>>26460825

can we have Xbows? bows are so overrated.
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>>26460967
>>26460942
>implying everyone isn't a troper

>>26460999
I have shit handwriting.
It's a fact that has plagued me my ENTIRE life.

Here's the post it was based off of:
>Gin! Gin, it's finally happened, oh god it's finally happened!

>sigh, what now Aizen.

>I was taking a stroll down by the south gate and saw myself entering with a bunch of trainees!

>what? Okay, that's it. I'm done for the day, time for scotch and Matsumoto's lap to nurse the inevitable hangover.

>no, you don't understand, I think my sword is rebelling and masquerading around as me! This puts out entire operation in jeopardy!

>then use Jinzen and get the dick in line.

>well, I would...but I may have left it pierced in an illusory body of myself in the middle courtyard...and now it is under lock and key in the 4th division barracks,

>Getting real tired of your shit, Souske.
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>>26461006
That song is eerie as hell... Very trance like.
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>>26460964
Yeesssssss....
Gin panels are the best.
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>>26461026
>I have shit handwriting.
>It's a fact that has plagued me my ENTIRE life.
Yeah, I'm in the same boat.

Thanks for text and the art. Good stuff.
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>>26460974
Whoever rec'd it goes by mirumoto on tvTropes.
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MEANWHILE IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE BLEACH QUEST!
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>>26461016
Goddammit. Zangetsu is some kind of rebellious frat-boy who just wants to party all the time and cries "oppression!" whenever anybody tells him to stop.

What have we unleashed...
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>>26461026
Hey gale...I was wondering, what do you do most of the time when your not on BleachQuest?
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>>26461018
bows actually beat crossbows on most counts. They have longer range, fire faster, and penetrate armor just as well. The real downsides to bows was time, both in making a bow and in training to use one-while using a crossbow well could be taught in a couple weeks, mastery of a bow and buildup of the muscle necessary to fire a powerful one quickly takes years.
Polite sage for a bit off topic
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>>26460999
Same here. Clean up the placement of the word bubbles and it'll be fine.
>>26461026
>I have shit handwriting.
No you don't. I should find some of my brother's chicken scratch. He writes so thin and tall, that much of his writing looks like 1!Il11llIIl1! at first glance.
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>>26461015
>sanitation bullshit
Don't EVEN remind me. I am still fucking pissed about that.

Honestly, I haven't been there much since they went PC on us. It has that half-dead feel that Wikipedia does, where user-created content is barely allowed to exist.

Also, Troper Tales. The hours I spent reading those...and then they were all gone.
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>>26461063
BQ Ichigo with max Quincy, Stealth, CQC, and Swordsmanship.
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Wait, someone archived 39.5 as 40? Do people even look at the thread number or how other entries in a series are archived?

And what's the hell with suptg fucking around the sorting that badly?
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>>26461072
What? No. He's the most loyal bodyguard around. He wouldn't think twice about running down a trench gun for us head on. He's a total bro and we need to be true to that.

We can't just kick him to the curb like canon Ichigo did.
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>>26461086
Yep, misarchival is misarchived. I figure we should just call this 40.5 and ignore the issue, or perhaps True Chapter 40, to play of the True/Fake Zangetsu thing.

Oh, and suptg's sorting is always shit. The same month often displays multiple times with different content on the same page, for one.
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>>26461123
Just call it Bleach Quest 40 (the real one)
Lets see what happens though before we go archiving right now.
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>>26461086
Personally I just use foolz to find the threads I miss.

http://archive.foolz.us/tg/search/subject/BLEACH%20QUEST/tripcode/!DboU7yuujg/type/op/order/asc/

So long as Cos doesn't forget his trip or the subject title then that link will always pull up all the threads in order.
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>>26460584
Oh god he looks so happy... we're going to do something terrible aren't we?
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>>26461078
Stuff.

>>26461006
...For you tread upon my dreams?

>>26461112
Bros stand by their bros.
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>>26461150
It is /tg/.

So yes. Yes we are.
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>>26461083
What I really miss are the old ads on searches where Google was doing it's fancy "This string of words comes up a lot in reference to this sponsored product." Pic related is one of my favorite flubs from searching for idiot plot.
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>>26461112
That's why it's a complicated issue.

We can't disrespect his feelings, but at the same time we need to determine if he can handle his full power.

I mean I'm afraid we'll be as hax as canon Ichigo when he got his powers back post-fullbring arc.

Or even worse, how strong he got as the canon Old Man stepped out of the way.

Hopefully it's a moot concern, and we can trust Zangetsu, but I wonder.
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>>26461150
NO. If we have to give up the Old Man, we will. We're not letting down True Brogetsu.
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>>26460942
yes?
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>>26461112
He's also all our rash, impulsive, violent instincts turned up to 11. Not exactly a bastion of sound decision making, as evidenced by the little shitstorm he just caused.

Not saying that is necessarily a bad thing, but we need to realize that maybe he actually does need an adult around to tell him "no, you shouldn't go FULL POWER and obliterate half of Karakura along with that Hollow just because it mildly annoyed you".

We can recognize that the Old Man serves a purpose without kicking Zangetsu to the curb. We just need to tell the Old Man to not be a dick about it, and tell Zangetsu to shut up and listen when the King makes decisions.
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>>26461178
That still means we'll get our ass kicked by Aizen, Yamomoto, possibly Ywach, and anyone else whose stats scale with ours (and I'm betting a lot of them do).
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You shake your head. “It might’ve been a masquerade, Old Man, but it isn’t who you have to be! You told me to keep moving forward and not to focus on the past, so do the same. So, pick your own name, become your own being, and flow into a new blade.”

He shakes his head and lets out a wistful sigh. “If only it were that easy. Ichigo, as it is, your power is being kept under check by me. If I let it go, there’s no way for me to remain. Not when your hollow has any say.”

Your frown increases. “You keep saying my power is being limited. What does that mean?”

“It means Ichigo, that I were to stop suppressing it, suppressing your powers, you would increase in power, drastically.”

“And /what/ does that mean?!”

He pauses. “It means, more than likely, that your power will likely increase to the point you will no longer be able to return to the world of the living if you are lucky. If you aren’t… your very presence might annihilate anything that isn’t strong enough that approaches you from the sheer intensity.”

You look back at Zangetsu. "Partner, while I really don't like the way the Old Man held you down so long, I'm not really sure if I'm ready to have my maximum power just yet. Especially not all at once.

Even though he definitely owes you an apology at minimum, do you think there's any kind of compromise that can be reached?"

Your hollow scowls, his words hesitant and full of disgust. “Ichigo… both of us…We’re your powers, alright? What you decide is what goes.

“But, if I have any say, I’d just say wipe him out and deal with the consequences!”

He seems unwilling to want to work with the Old Man.

>What are your thoughts on the matter?
>Side with Zangetsu
>keep the old man
>…Isn’t there /any/ other way?
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We're going to wake up covered in naked bitches with a mask on and no idea what happened. You guys do realize that right?
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>>26461207
So make it clear that to both the Old Man and to Zangetsu that OMZ is no longer calling the shots, but is working for us?
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So, it looks like the consensus is: offer OMZ another path, but only if hollowbro is cool with it. Did I get that right? He probably won't go for it thought, OMZ seems to be at peace with his destruction.
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>>26461178
We can trust Zangetsu... unless we backstab him here. He'd be righteously upset with us.
As for power; I doubt Cosgrove would put us at that level yet. "Your body can't handle it" sort of thing.

>>26461207
Aside from acting out a little just recently so he can finally tell us what the old bastard's been doing; hes been very plesent since we first met Ishida.
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>>26461224
eh we can just get a kenpachi eyepatch and be fine in the human world
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>>26461224
...Yeah no.
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>>26461224
Merge them, it's the only way.
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>>26461224
>…Isn’t there /any/ other way?
Spread the power.
And take it back when you need it. Congrats! You've now become the new Yhwach.
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>>26461246
It looks like Cosgrove just did.
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Rolled 20

>>26461224
I wanna see where the quest goes if we kick him to the curb and get super powered up.

So I'm siding with Zangetsu
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>>26461224
jesus christ.
well this is a well fuck moment.
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>>26461224
>Hollow disgusted with us
>Full power means we'll kill Orihime
Oh god my heart...

Ask Zangetsu to eat the old man perhaps?
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>>26461224
form a Quency cross then a new weapon" I Wouldn't want to hurt those I wish to protect... I need your help old man just be reedy to step aside and let us all let lose when we must.
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>>26461258
You do realize we'll probably have to fight Kenny to get his after he accidentally maliciously destroys all the other ones in soul society right?
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>>26461224
>Side with Zangetsu

Tell him to reign it in as hard as he can while we jet away to a sufficient distance from everyone.

Tell Soifon: Holyshitpowerburnsstayhereson'twanttohurtyouall!!!
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>>26461224
I'm not willing to give up my life and kill everyone around me quite yet, so I need someway to control my powers.

Here's the deal Old Man: I'm going to let you live, so that you can continue to exist and keep me from becoming walking death. The catch, however, is that Zangetsu's in charge. You loosen up on that power as needed according to him, only limiting that as necessary to keep yourself and the people I'm around alive. That's the only way this will work.
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>>26461224
"Well, first things first Old Man.

I told Zangetsu that you owe him an apology, and I'm holding you to that.

At least talk to him directly, he's literally standing right in front of you."
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>>26461224
>…Isn’t there /any/ other way?
Partner, I can't keep you collared, that just isn't fair to you. But if we could kill Karin, Yuzu, maybe even some of our friends who came with us, if our power goes free, we need some kind of way to hold our energy back when we aren't fighting. I won't force either of you to do what you think is wrong, but I do believe that all three of us are a team, especially since at one point or another we'v all tried to kill each other. Are you sure you two can't work together to keep our friends safe?
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>>26461224
"Then become my power than, a chain where only /I/ am allow to release at will."
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>>26461289
no thats railroading to the maximum Cos wouldnt do that
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>>26461224
>keep the old man

"But let me be clear. /I/ am in charge here from now on. No more lying, no more plotting to kill me, and no more disrespecting Zangetsu by refusing to use his name. You're equals from now on, because you both work for me, got it?

Zangetsu, I know you don't like this, but I can't risk letting that much power loose right now. I can't accept any result that might hurt my friends."
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>>26461259
Yeah no what? You need a little more than that.

>>26461224
>…Isn’t there /any/ other way?
>Side with Zangetsu

Honestly, I'm curious about this route and where we can develop Ichigo but I do agree we need to try at least some before biding farewell.
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>>26461311
It's a comedy section. The line is very different from drama sections of the plot.
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>>26461274
.....why.

>>26461224
...shit.

Shit.

TOO MUCH POWER TOO FAST
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>>26461320
I said "Yeah no" as in that is unacceptable.
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>>26461224
Can't we just... I dunno, stuff OMZ into a bracelet and have him eat our reiatsu from the outside instead of from within like he's doing now?

>captcha: the dummer
I know it's dumb but if they have such things as mod souls then, maybe?
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>>26461298
Here here.

After that -

>>26461294
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Semi-Threadly reminder that the updated Ebook can be found at http://pastebin.com/kbGzcbDb
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>>26460716
>Not https://

No wonder Soul Society couldn't stop our plots, what with their security being so weak.
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>>26461224
>keep the old man

This >>26461314

We can't risk exploding and killing everyone. Zangetsu said it himself, he's pure instinct. Instinct doesn't care about what happens to the people around it as long as it gets what it wants. If the Old Man is willing to play nice from now on, we shouldn't throw him away.
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>…Isn’t there /any/ other way?

We need to save both.
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>>26461224
"I'm gonna level with you Old Man, I actually WOULD like to go back to high school eventually, maybe even go to college, because I'm not quite ready to have my only possible venues be Ancient Japan or a monochrome desert.

However, I can't deny that Zangetsu has a legitimate grievance against you. I mean even if what you were doing is necessary, you didn't have to be such a jackass about it."
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>>26461224
/turn to Zangetsu/ I'm not any happier about this than you are; but we can't risk annihilating everyone and everything I care about. You said that what you want to protect is not the same as what I want to protect... you want to protect me... while I want to protect everyone. So help me protect myself from myself... Old Man. "Sealed King". You want to walk forward, to kill... you are a part of me... Zangetsu... would you be able to absorb him? Keep him under control? Help limit your powers when needed? I... don't think I could bear the thought of losing everyone around me. Or you... I'm sorry..."
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>>26461311
No I am saying that Kenpachi Zaraki after hearing we need an eyepatch will immediately mobilize the entire 11th division to destroy all other limiters in /ss/ in order to make it so that he can get a rematch with us with the winner getting to keep the eyepatch. Please note that I am not saying that this will necessarily be a particularly long or drawn out fight but it is the only path I can see Zaraki taking after hearing about this.
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Rolled 18

>>26461330
Why not?
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>>26461224
>Side with Zangetsu
He has our back. Did everyone forget about his heartfelt confession about how he wants nothing more than to protect us? I feel like we forgot that. Or people are samefaggin it up.
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>>26461224
How about this, instead of making him the only one with a lock, give one to us and also Zangetsu, so the only way to release some of that sealed power free is if we all agree.

I mean, it'd be mostly symbolic in Zangetsu's case, but its the thought that counts.
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>>26461224
>…Isn’t there /any/ other way?
third option forever
"Old Man, if we're going to keep you around, two things are going to have to happen. First off, you're going to apologize to Zangetsu, for borrowing his name, for sealing his power, and for a bunch of dickery I probably don't know about. Second, you are going to have one month to prove to him that you can be trusted and work together as part of the team. If you can't, I will allow Zangetsu to absorb you and we'll see if that lets us control our power outflow. That acceptable to you two?
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>>26461399
He's also to accept the risk that unleashing our full power might KILL EVERYONE.

He's not a good decision maker.
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Hey, if this the point where we achive bankai. Can get to the level where we can transform in Mugetsu?
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>>26461399
Yeah, he wants to protect US.

Not all our friends.

He said it himself, the things that he wants to protect isn't the things that we want to protect.
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>>26461399
/tg/ hates losing. And letting a character go (even though he seems fucking fine about it) is a fucking lost to them.
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GOOD NEWS EVERYONE!
We take Zangetsu's deal; level Soul Society and brink Squad 0 to come fight us!
OR We take the Sealed Kings deal and Zangetsu feels betrayed and hates us forever! Also we get to go home!
Or we take the mystery box and that Creepy Coat guy Ishida is fighting probably stabs us in the face while we're meditating!

It's russian roulette with ALL the chambers loaded!
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>>26461408
A month is way too short.
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>>26461399
He doesn't have our back. What we want to protect isn't what he wants to protect.

Cooperating with the Old Man, for the time being, keeps us from accidentally dissolving people just by being around them.
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>>26461399
It wasn't a confession so much as his own thoughts. We didn't hear them. We did however hear him constantly muttering "protect" to himself.

There's GOT to be a way for Zangetsu to keep his power in check...
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>>26461426
Everybody just read this in Farnsworth's voice. Ha ha ha
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>>26461399
He wants to protect us. He doesn't care about protecting Orihime, or Momo, or any of our other friends. Unleashing our full power will make us un-fucking-stoppable, but at BEST we'll have to abandon all our friends for fear they'll die just by being near us.

The things we want to protect aren't the things he wants to protect. He said that himself. We can't think only about him here, we're responsible for the safety of all our friends. We accepted that when we became their leader.
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>>26461423
Yeah he seems fine with it, since the fact that everyone around us will die and we have to live here for the rest of eternity would no longer be his problem.

It's a big fucking problem for us.
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>>26461413
What then it will be far easier to protect Ichigo as he is no longer trying to save all these pathetic meatbags. Sure the flooding will get bad but who cares about that when Ichigo is safe.
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>>26461426
well then just blunt up and tank that bullet.
we will smash destiny in the face with a brick till it stops screaming
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>>26461453
Yes, thank you Zangetsu for illustrating my point.
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>>26461224
Yeah. Naw. After all these revelations, I find myself deeply hesitant to trust OMZ.
>Side with Zangetsu

This is a little meta, but when cannon Ichigo had his powers unlocked weren't the people around him OK?
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>>26461426
Wait... that's not good news at all!
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>>26461381
Wait... If Zangetsu absorbs OMZ, wouldn't that give our zanpaktou its own zanpaktou?
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>>26461426
What we need to do is give Zangetsu his freedom, but let him use the Sealed King as a means of controlling his power.

Basically, Zangetsu needs to be the King between those two, while the Old Man becomes a useful Horse.
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>>26461426
there has to be some way to solve this... Perhaps a deal?
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>>26461474
>Our true Shikai is a Zanpakuto with little arms wielding a second even larger Zanpakuto
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>>26461471
No. He had them unlocked when he was with a member of Squad 0 and a bunch of Zanputos. We haven't seen him near anyone else since then.
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>>26461224
"Zangetsu... you said it yourself, what you want to protect isn't necessarily what /I/ want to protect.

...Don't mistake me for a martyr, since I have no intention of sacrificing myself for anyone else, both because I like living, and because that can really mess people up in the long term, I'm just saying that I like having friends, family, lovers and so on.

Though the Old Man definitely should give you a lot more respect than he has been, I'm not sure I'm ready to safely manage that kind of power.

It's not you, it's me."
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>>26461474
oh god swordception.
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>>26461224
>"Zangetsu... would you be able to keep your power in check? If I lost Orihime... Momo..."
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>Seems like many people want to try to take a third option, one way or another, then?

>also, Zangetsu absorbing the old man is the same as siding with Zangetsu. Because he'll consume the old man. He's a hollow, not a quincy.
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>>26461484
>Our Shikai's Shikai is an even bigger Zanpakuto with arms holding another Zanpakuto.
>It's Zanpakuto all the way down.
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>>26461471
Yes. So long as he didn't touch them, get too close for prolonged periods or look at them funny. We are talking final getsuga tenshou levels of power here at high end.
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>>26461489
Also keep in mind that if we kick the Old Man out we probably reroll our Shikai since Dos Zangetsu's where a result of Ichigo putting some of his soul into it.
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>>26461512
Yes 3
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>>26461224
"Zangetsu, tell me honestly. Do you think that you can stop us from becoming just like Starrk and Lillynette were?"
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>>26461224
>…Isn’t there /any/ other way?
"Zangetsu, we need his power to limit us, otherwise we lose our family and friends. That said, he is clearly no longer a King. just a horse
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>>26461512
Ya I'm ok with Zangetsu eating the old man. As long as Zangetsu can keep his crazy power in check I'm ok with whatever happens to the old man after that.
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>>26461484
Then it'll REALLY be swordception.

>mfw OMZ becomes a collar to the zanpaktou INSIDE Zangetsu, an we get to have REBELLION ARC inside our mind.
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>…Isn’t there /any/ other way?

OMZ needs to live or else we be forever alone.

That will break ichigo sanity.

but zangetsu can't be chained like that.anymore.

Find another way.
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>>26461512
we choose number 3, my lord
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>>26461512
The important thing is that OMZ stop acting so contemptuous of Zangetsu, and actually treat him with respect.

If he can muster a sincere apology, to Zangetsu, not to us, and y'know, acknowledge Zangetsu's existence, it'd go a long way.
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>>26461512

Choose number 3 but dont eat OMZ
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>>26461471
We have been working on control too, something Ichigo never had much of a handle on. We can hold down our spiritual pressure pretty well, and, we've seen with our own eyes that insanly powerful spiritual pressure Can be held back as easy as breathing.

Stark? Had no clue how to do it, a short lesson later and he's hanging out in a hospital. And so Stark hangs out with Dr. Dad.
>So what's that do?
>Oh? That, thats my anesthesia.
>Anastasia?
>No, no, knockout gas. I use it on people to make them go to sleep
>Such Power...

We could also swipe kenpachi's eyepatch.
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>>26460964
Guck yeah Bleach Quest! Fuck yeah my Improvaizen script!
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>>26461512
So we cant do this?
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>>26461538
He can't.

He almost certainly can't.
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>>26461544
Zangetsu and two girlfriends aren't enough to keep you company?
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>>26461565
not unless we find some Metamorans
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>>26461565
That's OMZ (or, YMZ) using Skalervi on Zangetsu to merge with him.

That's the opposite of what we want.
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>>26461224
Hah, I just figured out how to explain this to Zangetsu.

>Listen. Zangetsu. I know that you really don't care about protecting anyone other than me.
>But, and I know that this is a bizarre concept to think of right now,
>But some day, I would REALLY like to get laid.
>And I think you'd appreciate it too.
>And it would be great if we didn't kill everyone we get close to for that.
>So I'm gonna need this whole thing to work out...
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>>26461529
We should throw this in here, whatever we do. We need a straight answer, and Mr. Instinct isn't very good at thinking ahead.

That said, he has to come before saving OMZ. He's our greatest ally, and a true friend. OMZ is highly questionable.
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>>26461552
and also giving zangetsu a shonin punch to the old man's face might not go amiss
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>>26461590
>But some day, I would REALLY like to get laid.
>And I think you'd appreciate it too.

But...we HAVE gotten laid, anon.

That should be "Laid AGAIN."
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>>26461512
We need to keep Zangetsu on our side and let him keep his freedom, he's earned it at great risk.
And we need to NOT ground zero Soul Society... so whatever lets us do that.

I'm fine with not going back home if it's absolutely nessicary. We'll become a silent watcher. A protector. A guardian.
Or we just become RED and go cam out in Hueco Mundo since we'd be the equivalent of a constantly exploding 80000000 megaton nutron bomb.

It's like that one kid in Marvel who got the mutant power of nanotoxins and atomized his whole town without knowing it so Wolverine had to mercy kill him.
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>>26461224

I side with >>26461381

Make it clear to Zangetsu that protecting Ichigo from harm does nothing if Ichigo is alone and kills all that he loves.

Otherwise, I'm down with this option
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>>26461224
"Hold on a fucking second Old Man. If you were all ready to say goodbye, did you actually think I'd be cool with having to leave the world of the living behind forever, and having that be a -best case scenario-?"
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>>26461579
The two girlfriends might very well die horribly from the sheer outpouring of spiritual pressure.
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>>26461579
Has OMZ tried to kill us?

Then he's our friend. Therefore we need to save him.
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>>26461590
>"I don't know if you can feel all of my emotions; but if we had that little "always on Chernobyl" things happening, I'd be a constant emotional wreck."
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>>26461601
Right, my bad.

I just find that conversation hilarious.

>Look, sex is, like, awesome, and I'd really like to not rule it out forever.

>BUT THEN WE HAVE TO PUT UP WITH THE OLD MAN

>...Admittedly, having the OMZ watching would be weird too, but it's hardly the strangest thing we've been asked to do for a good time.

>BUT WHAT IF IT GETS WEIRD

God, the fun goes on and on.
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>>26461614
so i'm wondering if by our fucked up logic that we tend to run by to get friends, could we theoretically friend aizen?
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>>26461529
This is important like if he truly and honestly thinks that he can handle the power...

Well it'd be a problem, because I wouldn't believe it, but it'd be a compelling argument.
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>>26461381
>>26461609
Lengthy, but I like it.
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>>26461579
OMZ gives us a cold stare, "No Ichigo, we must have... More."
He then sets up a chart similar to Orihime's showing how many more his body can handle.
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>>26461614
Technically he -planned- to kill us.

He only -tried- to maim us. Succeeded too.
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>>26461648
"... speaking of weird when I'm you know... with Momo... do you... you know... with her Zanpakuto/ Hollow? Because if not that's probably pretty awkward..."
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>>26461648
Oh dear, we're turning into Improv!Aizen.

>THE OLD MAN TRIED TO KILL US! HE NEEDS TO DIE!

>But...two girlfriends.

>TRIED TO KILL US!

>...two girlfriends. You don't leave two girlfriends for anything.
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>>26461604
But that is NOT something our Ichigo would be ok with. At all.

We've gone to great pains to move away from Canon Ichigo being an insensitive bastard who doesn't comprehend how it might affect his friends and family if something were to happen to him. We aren't like that. Hanging out in Mexico being Batman forever is not conducive to TEAM SPIRIT.
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>>26461381
Cosgrove already explained that that's not valid.

Hollow absorption is very different than Quincy absorption.
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>>26461614
Zangetsu curb stomped the old man every time he tried to start sit and even forced him to help us when we needed him.
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>>26461659
Y'know, now that we can do Manifestation, we can theoretically handle up to three times as many girls.
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>>26461614
>>26461649
We befriending now?
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>>26461648
>Looks around at the sprawling otherworldy landscape
>"SERIOUS BRO. CANT YOU JUST PICK A BUILDING?!"
>"Look, this building can be the old man's and that one-
>But i like this one.
>"THEN THIS ONES YOURS!"
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"You're going to fuck this up Ichigo... there's no way to win."
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>>26461694
Not really.

OMZ never actually tried to kill us. He just planned on standing around and being aloof, while holding most of our power back.

What Zangetsu did was bully OMZ into allowing Ichigo to use Blut and Schatten (The Quincy Shadow, known here as "swordception")
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>>26461590
and then somehow he becomes a she through his sheer force of will.

"you will only need ME. partner."
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>>26461659
Zangetsu's eyes light up, they start muttering and scribbling on the whiteboard. After a little while they turn back to us
>"So according to our calculations, if you use the mask and combine it with Blut for additional stamina, thirteen is your absolute maximum capacity for a single night."
>"Come on Partner, we've got a goal to hit!"
>"...I'm sorry, when did you guys suddenly stop hating each other and want me to be in relations with thirteen women?"
>"You misunderstand us Ichigo"
>""Thirteen women A NIGHT, Partner. And you need a different set for every day of the week, of course"
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>>26461693
Ok so how does Hollow absorption actually work then since I recall them gaining memories and sometimes even powers of their victims.
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>>26461752
That was just Aaroneiro and Metastacia.

They're science experiments.
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>>26461709
First thought Orihime had when she saw Zangetsu

Man, he's going to Love breasts. He can bitch all he wants about having to stay bunked up in our head.
But as soon as he motorboats jiggles over there?
Zen.
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>>26461590
But we did get laid. With Momo and 'Hime.

Also, third option, owes Zangetsu An apology, we eat to be able to go back to earth, etc yadda yadda.

Playing from phone, being less verbose,
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>>26461749
>"Did I mention I might also be a ghost STD?"
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>>26461659
> flowing coat
> messy hair
> stubbly beard
> massive haremfag
…he really *is* /tg/.
>>26461614
Uhm, MOST of our friends have tried to kill us at some point.
>>26461611
Orihime should be fine. Momo isn't /that/ weak. It could work. Could.
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>>26461610
I think this is important.

Why the fuck did he think we'd be cool with him leaving if that was the consequence?

Was he just being melodramatic?
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>>26461775
I just realized... she was within viewing distance to see us get cut up.
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>>26461749
>Wait what? By then I could practically found my own division in /ss/ made entirely of my harem.
>Well now that you mention it partner...
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>>26461610
... this is a great point...
But also he did totally just maim us then admit to wanting to kill us and here he stands defeated... so that would be the ultimate revenge... but when why tell us if he didn't truly care?
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>>26461794
Which is why, when we meet back up with her, the first thing we say is "HAHA! NEW RECORD! Three dismemberment in one fight and I still won! GO ME!" and give her a thumbs-up and shit-eating grin.
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>>26461784

can.. can i have source on that pic good sir?
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>>26461659
>OMZ attempts to atone for his bullshit by setting up Ichigo with 'Bel and the Tres.
...Yes.

>>26461709
...dude...no.

>>26461744
Doesn't look half bad, actually...
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>>26461802
The Shinagami Women's Association?

Or do we start off slow, but aim high with the Shinagami Female Lieutenants club? We need to get in good with the President first though, Quick! Find me a bag full of candy, and Ice cream.
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>>26461830
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>>26461790
>Most of our friends have tried to kill us.

[ ]Chad
[ ]Hime
[ ]Present!Keigo
[X]Ishida
[X]Momo
[X]Zangetsu
[X]OMZ
[ ]Nel
[ ]Harribel
[ ]Appachi
[ ]Sung-Sun
[ ]Mila Rose
[ ]Starrk
[ ]Lilinet
[ ]Rukia
[X]Kenpachi
[ ]Soi Fon

...not that many, surprisingly enough. We have *fought* most of them, however.
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>>26461802
and lo did Yachiru bully Old Man Genocide into forming the Fourteenth Division, because she was sick and tired of Women's Association meetings just being plans on how to get into Ichigo's pants
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>>26461841
We might already be in good with her, since we exchanged Friendmakers with Kenny.
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>>26461790
>…he really *is* /tg/.
I laughed far harder than I should have

I don't know... this is FULL KUBO. Shit like this is bound to happen.

I'm curious about a Third Way, but we'd better ask before we leap to it. Fecal matter intersecting with fans and all that
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>>26461841
We can nab it from Captain Tuberculosis
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>>26461857
You forgot Chizuru.
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>As the entire Soul Society collapses under our spiritual pressure when we remove out limiter
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>>26461830
>...dude...no.
Oi! You share! They are a part of us, a part of our Very Soul. We can kinda, share.
It's not gay its masturbation. Plus its the Female dream for the MFM threesome. DARE YOU DENY HIME HER DREAM?!
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>>26461830

beautiful.
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>>26461857
You can check Nel and Halibel too.
Sure, Nel was forced, but it DID happen.

Also, is Urahara our friend? I wouldn't think so, but he IS kinda bro tier at times.
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>>26461830
Wow genderflipped Tensa Zangetsu looks like a heavily illegal prostitute.
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>>26461875
Oh, you're right. How dreadful of me.

[X]Chizuru
[ ]Tatsuki
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>>26461857
I'd argue that Harribel and Nel should both be marked.

They may not have been aiming to kill per se, but as our wounds will attest those fights were very much real, and in any fight with live blades the potential for death is there.
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>>26461857
Harribel.
Maybe Stark, but he was doing it unconsciously, so it might not count.
Nel.
The Tres is on the way since Ichigo sparred with them.
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>>26461824
One of the Bleach Rock Musicals, I have a few other pics and this adorable gif. At least I hope it is the gif, my phone saves some as a freeze frame. They should be jumping and high fiving
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>>26461857
Harribel didn't start off trying to kill us, but it got to the point where one of could have died by accident due to both parties having too much fun
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>>26461891
I don't think Nel would have actually finished us off. We were using CQC for a reason, and she wouldn't have actually gone for the kill with that knife.

Harribel was an honor duel. No one was ever going to die there.
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>>26461894
It's not prostitution, it's Enjou Kosai.
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>>26461749
we have a duty to make a new race of super strong hi-breads, O god what if we are sterile like a donkey ?
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>>26461906
>Bleach Rock Musicals
Ladies and gentlemen, JAPAN!
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>>26461893
hollows aren't vampires
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>>26461920
then we beat the Hogyouku up again until it fixes that little genetic issue
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>>26461879
>"well looks like our job here is done."
>"but we didn't do any-"
>"It's done gin lets go to HC"
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>>26461854
>>26461830
>>26461744
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>>26461790
Can we get him fingerless gloves and set him up to DM for the Zanpaktou of our friends?
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>>26461899
>>26461904
>>26461914
Very well, how about a half check? High risk of accidental death matches.

[/]Harribel
[/]Nel
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Guys if we gat an explosion of pressure that high... we could erase Starrk and Kenny from existence simply by standing in the same state as them. Do you understand how huge that is?
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>…isn’t there /any/ other way?

You look at the two of them, the Old Man, who helped save you from hollowification. Who helped teach you when you needed it. Zangetsu, who has helped you through so many things.

Both of them are a part of you. You can’t let the Old Man go, but you can’t let Zangetsu stay chained.

An impossible choice…

You look over at The Old Man. “Whatever happens, you owe him an apology for all the crap you’ve done.”

The Old Man’s face becomes passive as he looks over at the hollow and bows. “My apologies.”

The hollow snorts as they both look at you, waiting.

“..look, I can’t stand Zangetsu being chained up, alright Old Man? But, at the same time, I don’t want to lose you or be unable to be with my loved ones. Isn’t there /any/ other way?”

The Old Man looks pensive and closes his eyes. After a few moments, he opens his eyes and nods. “There might be a way, Ichigo. However, it will come at a great cost.”

He gestures towards the hollow and himself. “We could sever a large majority of the power that is currently held back from you. In doing so, I would take some of it into myself and become something different. I would not remain as I am, nor would your hollow. However, neither one of us would be dominant over the other.”

“But, you would remain at that level, whatever potential heights you might’ve reached permanently reduced.”

You look at you hollow, who shrugs. “It’s better than being chained, but you’ll never be able to be as strong as you could have been. Your power will be forever limited. You /sure/ you'd be okay with that, Ichigo?”

>Will you limit your potential to try to keep both?
>any other questions?
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>>26461918
>No one was ever going to die there.

When you're throwing Cero around and people's limbs are flying off, accidental death is a very real concern. She wouldn't have finished us if we had been defeated, but the danger of accidentally blowing our head off with a Cero was real.
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>>26461906
thank you!
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>>26461949
So guys, time for a noble sacrifice?
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>>26461949
My power is for protecting and fighting alongside those I love. If I couldn't do that, it wouldn't matter how strong I got. Let's do this
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>>26461880
>implying that's Hime's dream
>implying she doesn't have a vast number of dreams

>>26461894
...which Zangetsu?
Because that 63 Grayscale....damn.
DAMN.

>>26461949
>gain power too fast
>the only way to reduce in power is a permanent cut in power
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU--
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>>26461949
Well, yes. All hands on deck for THE HEART modo.
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>>26461949
I say do it. Not so much for their sake as our friends. Being weaker is better than never seeing them again.

Also
>name two specific times that OMZ has helped us out
>give Zangetsu generic "countless times" line
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>>26461949
I really don't like this answer either...

Can't we just learn to control our power like Stark did? I mean... didn't that take like 10mins for him to figure out?
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>>26461949
How much of a limit are we talking about compared to what I could be?
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>>26461949
...No. I'm sorry, Old Man. My enemies...I can't risk being unable to protect my friends in the future. I'm not sure what I can do, but I can't sacrifice power that I'm likely to need soon.

I'll just have to learn to control this myself. Maybe Urahara can create some form of device to control my power.
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>>26461949
"...This is unfair to both of you, but would it be possible for you guys to give me a little longer to decide before making this kind of choice?

Like maybe at least until none of my friends are in immediate mortal peril?

Because I feel as if I could use some advice on the matter."
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>>26461984
its a permanent cut in maximum power. SInce we're more of a team player than canon, we don't need to get stronger than Old Man Genocide by ourselves-that's why we train all of our friends til they're just as strong as us
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>>26461949
well... fucking fuck.
god damn it.
guys this could also be REALLY bad and cosgrove is probably going HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE right now.
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>>26461949
"Being all powerful and alone is a far greater curse than being powerless and having friends.

Even if I never grow in strength again, being able to hold my sisters in these two hands will be worth any price.

Do it."
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>>26461949
>"No! Jesus guys... I don't want you to spiral off and lose yourself Zangetsu... and I still need to be able to save my friends and beat Aizen somehow...
Old Man... Sealed King... whatever your name is...how much is that going to dampen our power?"
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>>26461989
>name two specific times that OMZ has helped us out
1. Hollowfication
2. Chizuru
3. Every second not spent killing people like bugs via spiritual pressure
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>>26461949
I say apologize to both of them, and say we'll make a decision later.

Like I think we should at minimum talk to

>Orihime
>Momo
>Starrk&Lillynette
>Isshin

Before making this kind of a decision.
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>>26461949
take the deal
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>>26461949
....no.

Keep the Old Man. We might need that power someday to protect our friends, but we aren't ready for it now.

Zangetsu can deal with it. We're the king, its our job to make the hard choices. We can always let him off the chain later. He'll just have to be patient.
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>>26461949
Why don't we do something useful with all that power? Put is somewhere it can do some good. We do have two girlfriends. And its already possible to transfer power between people....
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>>26462007
I think even WITH the power cut we might still be able to match him one day.
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>>26462030
>Every second not spent killing people like bugs via spiritual pressure

That's a pretty big one.
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>>26461949
...Does that mean two different Zanpakutou?

I mean, the power isn't *going* anywhere, it's being re-directed somewhere where it won't kill everyone who accidentally comes within a mile of me.

Would this "limited power" be more versatile in the long run? That actually sounds very interesting.

Zangetsu, if I do this, and it sounds like a pretty decent compromise, we'll need to rely on our friends to conquer the highest peaks. I don't see that as a problem, more a feature. You?
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>>26461949
>ever a large majority of the power that is currently held back from you
seems legit, we'll still be high captain-level
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>>26462033
We CAN'T chose later. Old Man is on borrowed time here.
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>>26462030
I meant that he named two specific times and zangetsu got a generic line.

I know he's helped us out, dudes a bro,
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>>26461949
>mfw we will never ever ever ever get bankai
>...i am okay with this

It's time to jack-of-all-trades. And last I checked, CQC and stealth had nothing to do with spiritual power.
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>>26461949
"So i dont become a monster that could kill by existing, instead i'll become more of a Jack of all trades with my power distributed between my Quincy, Shinagami, and Hollow powers? Considering my focus on that sort of thing so far, has me able to apparently defeat Squad 11's Magical McMurder Captain over there, i'd say our odds are pretty good dont you think guys? I'm not trying to become a god here, with that kind of power that could be in my future

But i guess I could be more like Hercules instead?"
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>>26461949
Stall for now.

Ishida is still fighting Muramasa like as we speak, and for all we know Soi Fong could currently be dead.
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>>26461949
I'm sorry, I just can't not take this deal not knowing what we might face. I would rather to just start learning to deal with this power problem now than just cut it off.

If that wasn't clear. No.
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we will find another way, for now though: No.
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>>26462049
Yeah i was wondering the same thing,
I think he means our power will be different than just brute force and increased speed
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>>26462056
Not really.

We can just ask the Old Man to keep to the current arrangement for now.
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>>26461949
take the cut, once we get as strong pressure-wise as we can, we just learn control, skill, and the fancy Quincy ability to draw spirit energy from the air
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>>26462007
>>26462013
Guys, this is NOT WISE. I'm sorry about this, but no one else has the potential to take on OMG, Aizen, or Ywach, much less the Soul King. We NEED this power, and we WILL regret it if we throw it away here.

That's NOT something we can afford to do.

We'll find a way. If Kenpachi can limit his power with tech, we can do something similar. Hell, we can probably level Quincy to learn to control it sufficiently.
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>>26461949
you mean PRESENT power right?
we can still develop with time right?
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>>26461949
Yes, gonna do it.
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>Shonen character
>Sacrificing strength
WHAT

Zangetsu yummy down on this bishi butthole and lets rock.
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>>26461949
Fuck no.

We keep the Old Man. We need a limiter, he provides it.

We're the leader, its our job to make the hard decisions. Part of being a leader is being able to make those choices even if everyone isn't happy about it. Zangetsu will have to deal.

We can't risk killing our friends with overwhelming power, but we also can't risk that power not being available should we need it in the future. The stakes are too high to permanently handicap ourselves.
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>>26461949
limit it
I'd rather we don't have our friends explode when we get near them
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>>26461949
My inner minmaxer that wants to sail through the quest in bullshit OP mode is cringing right now, yet I don't want to lose OMZ or cause Old Man Genocide to come after our asses for being a stupidly strong wildcard that "could" threaten the SS.
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>>26462039
Holy shit, that's an amazing idea.

It's also very stupid. But we can totally do the Super Hollow Bros. with some of our friends. It'll be great, like a massive catastrophe that keeps on giving.

Because, really, everyone needs a little Zangetsu in them, right?
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>>26462089
He's on the verge of suicide and you think he'll let you stall?
>>26461949
Do it.
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>>26461949
Tell Zangetsu we're sorry to ask this of him, but he'll have to put up with the Old Man for at least another couple days, since this is a major fucking decision, and not one to take impulsively.
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>>26461949
All for postponing. We cannot afford to take the hit, nor can we afford to go nuclear in SS right now. need to look into a limiter. The hat.
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I say we hold off on this for now. Let's finish this crisis before we depower ourselves.

But then again, we ARE a shonen protagonist. Crippling our potential means fuck-all.
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"Then where I cannot grow in strength I will grow in skill," is the answer to any doubts about hampering ourselves...but just putting this out there... Canon TFGT is just a FRACTION of our power. We're still getting to a level that would require 0 division powers (more than one)to counter.

We noble, because everybody lives, everybody goes home, and Murasame is about to get told to run as we let bleed a fraction of our power. Then we powwow with Soi Fon
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>>26462106
>>26462035
These. Really... guys we do not want to cut this power off.
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>>26462131
Why don't we transfer out OMZ to our hat?
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>>26461949
>"Old man... let me be clear... if I ever need that limited removed... full access to those powers; reduced though they might be in order to save someone... I expect your compliance... and for you to make nice with Zangetsu.
Zangetsu... if you're ok with this... with cutting your strength... I just want to say I'm sorry that it has to be this way partner... /tactical hug/ Ok... lets do this and I'll try my best not to lose myself."
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>>26461949
take the deal
also, something to think about: if we don't take it, we'll probably be at the "threaten the integrity of soul society" level of power. Which will justify OMG using bankai at us. I don't want that
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>>26461949
No.

We keep the current arrangement.

Sorry Zangetsu, but what YOU want isn't what /I/ want, and I'm the King.

We need the power to protect our friends, but we also need the Old Man to keep us from going nuclear and destroying everything.
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>>26461949

Well, shit. Definitely don't want to limit our potential here.
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>>26461949
joke about them becoming female after saying yes.

in my case i would say yes, we have plenty of friends to back us up in future fights.
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>>26462138
Do you remember when Ywach snapped Tensa Zangetsu in half? We're turning down the powerup that Canon!Ichigo went through hell to get in order to not be killed on their next meeting.

This is a bad move, and we shouldn't take it.
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>>26461949
Any way we can have Zangetsu anchor the old man down and existing long enough until he learns to control his own power?
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>>26461949
...Rather than just cut off the power can we give it to our friends?
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>>26461949
take the deal
a large percentage of infinite shonen potential is still infinite shonen potential
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>>26461949
"One of the things I've realized since this all started is that my life means more to others than I think. People have opened their hearts to me, often without us even knowing each other, and I don't think it makes me weak to want to do the same.

I need to consider this for a little while."
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>>26462160
>We keep the current arrangement.
If we can. I have a feeling the Old Man wants to sudoku himself.
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>>26462138
This guy know what's up.

Even with the power cut we can most likely still attain Bankai, which is easily puts us on captain level.

Will we get to Mugetsu or current manga Ichigo? probably not.

Are we still badass and powerful? Fuck yes.
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>>26461949
cut our power, unless we can instead divert it to all our friends
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>>26462039
Transfer to Harribel's Fraccion. They're the furthest in their development tree.
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>>26461949
That sounds an awful lot like what starrk and lillinette did, except throwing away the excess instead of forming a new being...

Could we not create a new part of the equation ourselves? A fourth entity to bestow this power upon instead of throwing it away? I'm fine with a permanent reduction of the power I, as your wielder can call upon. But surely having another ally that could use the remainder in my stead would be better.
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>>26462180
I'm pretty sure the Old Man isn't necessarily going to stop existing unless we tell him too.
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>>26461997
>Control
Starrk literally chopped his soul in 2
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>>26462192
It was an option in the previous choice.

No reason we can't still take it now that we've found out about the mystery third option, because lets face it, this really isn't a viable option in the long term at all.
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>>26462176
We need this power

Bad
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>>26462195
Captain is not enough by any shot, not for end game opponents. Captains are approaching scrub territory at this point in the manga.
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>>26461949
take it
we'll get better at using our power if we can't grow it more, now that we are a fucking half-Quincy Visored with Bankai
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>>26462039
Bring that up to see if it would be possible to instead transfer that power to other people.
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>>26462220
Hey...can we do this? Can we seal our power into an Arrancar-style Zanpakuto?
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>>26461949
Keep the power; see if Zangetsu can do what Starrk did and split his power so it can be controlled.
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>>26462138
Hey, we can even lead this up with a line about how a King leads through more than just power. Something like,

>A King, Zangetsu, must make hard decisions. He must rally his men to his banner, he must know when to strike and where, more than just put power to his sword but to put conviction in the blade.

>A powerful, but lonely king is a king with no domain at all. As much as it pains me to give up even a fraction of power, I am making the decision to remain the King on his Horse. Perhaps, this new power will become another tool in my Kingdom. If not, then I will simply adapt, and fight with my friends, my knights, and my countrymen.
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>>26462176
Wasn't even Yhwach, it was Haschwald, his 2nd-in-command.

Though that might have been because Ichigo was already near-exhaustion.
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>>26462227
>Shunsui
>Ukitake
>Yoruichi
>Kenpachi
>Kisuke
>scrubs
even Byakuya is by no means out of the fight, and he got pasted into a wall
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>>26462231
Hmmmm, then remote send that excess power to Hime and Momo on the emotional ties that bind us now...would that cause Hime to get that awesome Negaccion staff?
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>>26462160
Yeah this seems like the best idea.
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>>26461949
See if Zangetsu can split himself like Starrk and the Espada did.
We'll need the power onne day to beat Aizen; but we need control.
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>>26462176
Eh, I'm pretty sure if Yhwach had to actually take on Yamamoto with no trickery and body doubles, he'd have lost.

Otherwise why not enjoy the loss in morale that would come for proving himself better than Yamamoto fair and square.
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GUYS LETS DO THIS LATER,
AND GIVE THE POWER TO OUR FRIENDS
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>>26462138
supporting

so we going to be a jack of all trades kind of guy?
we still need to learn our fullbring powers too.
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>>26462248
Canon Ichigo also never really worked on technique, just relied on retarded spiritual pressure and Getsuga Tensho. Even though he's stronger than us, we would put up a damn good fight against him due to us learning shit like basic swordsmanship
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>>26462251
They're the very strongest (excepting Byakuya, who got pasted into a wall), and they're only on par with new foes.

Scrubs may have been going a bit far, but they aren't strong enough to take on someone like Ywach or Hogyoku!Aizen.
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>>26462271
Exactly, we need to wait first and figure things out.
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>>26461949
I vote with the guys who are saying to ask Zangetsu if he can seal a fraction of his power in another sword or something; or if we can wait a little longer and bleed the excess we'd lose onto our allies.
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>>26461949
No way

Because >>26462160

It isn't all flowers and happiness, but at some point we need to face facts. We can't put Zangetsu's self-gratification over our other responsibilities.
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>>26462282
The thing about that is, who ever said that we need to fight people 1-on-1?

We don't have to play by the rules, this is FULL KUBO.
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>>26462239
Does that mean we get a shoulderloli to go with our hat?
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>>26462296
thats what hes saying he going to do
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>>26462282
I'll give you Hogyoku!Aizen, he was aproaching god levels, but Ywach we could take.

The guy needed to trick his way into beating Yamamoto. He doesn't have the same power as the old man.
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>>26461949

can we have a quick poll on this one cos? cuz this is a pretty big deal.

any one has a good quick poll site we can use?
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>>26462270
Sure thing, but that doesn't mean Ichigo would have stood a chance. Ywach may be weaker than OMG, but he's still far beyond pre-Sealbreakage Ichigo. We need to have that kind of power when he arrives...which might be soon.
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>>26462160
Don't phrase it like that.

Like just say we need to think about it first, and consult with the people we trust.
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>>26462212
>Threat of overwhelming personal power level promises to crush everyone we love
>Decdes to turn excess power levels into new friend


Bleach Quest, everyone!
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>>26462282
of course NPCs can't take on final boss characters, that's for the adventuring party. But they are still nasty, and by the looks of things Renji and Rukia will be able to be useful in the final battle
If RENJI has potential to not be a scrub, the only scrub was Kira
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>>26462309
Or we might just get a huge stack of Zanpakutos... like 5 extra. WE'RE FURER KING BRADLY NOW!
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>>26462321
It'll be two years and change, unless he wants to emerge before being fully restored.
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>>26462306
There comes a point where just ganging up on an opponent stops working. Like, say Hogyoku-Aizen, or OMG, or Ywach. Care to place bets on which will be the final boss, if not ALL of them?
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>>26462260
Then as we gain more harem hime can revert us to pre choice power level while using a second negaccion field to prevent her own depowering and we can do this all over again.
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>>26461949
ask to channel it to all of our friends. if we can't, take the deal
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>>26462325
That's what I was thinking, although we could just make a traditional sword-style Arrancar zanpakuto, if we wanted.
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>>26462319
polldaddy.com

you have to have an account to make polls though, but it is hard to same vote if you do a quick poll.
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>>26462284
So we should keep the current arrangement, give Zangetsu proper more free reign, and see if we can divide our power up between additional internal and possibly external entities? (Full bring & girlfriends) at a later time?
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>>26462336
>They all team up to stop us since we've become a god
>We where the villain all along
>>
>alright, so there's a lot going o here, so I'm gonig to do this: You all will post with > and the number you chose. ONLY THE > and the number you choose, anything else will eb disqualified.

I will give you all three minutes to vote then write.

>1 -yes
>2 - no.
>3 - hold off for now.
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>>26462332
>Accelerated timeline.
Seriously, NOTHING is happening when it should. I'm not assuming shit.
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>>26462336
I don't know, I have faint hope of Yhwach being a team effort.
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>>26462239
>>26462309
>>26462325
ALL the friends, ALL of them.
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>>26462355
>3
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>>26462355
>3
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>>26462355
>3
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>2
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>>26462355
3 - hold off for now
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>>26462355
>3
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>1
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>>26462336
OMG we couldn't team up on because he summons billions of skeletons. The others, we definately could, especially since at that point we'll have a dozen people who can hopefully beat captains into the ground
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>>26462325

and i am enjoying everyone's opinions.
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>>26462355
>3
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>>26462355
>3
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>>26462355
>1
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>>26462355
>2
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>>26462355
>3
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>>26462355
1
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>>26462355
>1
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Excellent.

Since holding off seems to be a valid option, we can just wait until we can get Urahara to whip up some limiters capable of dealing with our massive overkill.

Everybody wins.
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>>26462355
>>3 - hold off for now.
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>>26462355
>3
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>>26462319
Strawpoll or Anonkun.com
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>>26462355
>3
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>>26462355
>1 -yes
make them female cos. please. for chiz.
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>>26462355
>1
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>>26462355
>1
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>>26462355
>3
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POLL:
http://strawpoll.me/310485
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>>26462355
3
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>>26462355
3
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>>26462355

3. Keep the status quo as is
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>>26462355
>2
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>>26462355
3.
This is NOT the time to be doing this. Ishida is fighting the fabulous man, the rebellion is still ongoing, and god only knows what'll happen when the Sokyoku gets free.

no breaking our powers when shit's going down.
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>>26462355
>3
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...I actually wanted the power loss so we could stop being HURR DURR GIANT SWORD CRESCENT KILL BEAM and more like pic related.

Stealth and CQC don't need no spirit energy, man.
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>>26462437
>>26462439
>>26462443
>>26462408
>>26462402
>>26462380
Do it properly.
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>>26462355
>Answer Questions? You said we could get some questions answered
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>>26462443
>>26462458
Votes with text DO NOT COUNT. Do not post anything but the vote.
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>Time's up, looks like 3 wins.
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>>26462389
>1
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We need to talk to Starrk about this. He'll know what to do.
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>>26462469
In this thread.

People proving they cannot read.
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>>26462326
>the only scrub was Kira
>Kira
>hit your sword enough times and its a black hole Kira.
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>>26462468
I'm personally fine with our losing the power, but not with it just disappearing.

Like if we can toss it around to our friends, or use it to make some magic item, then that's fine.

I'd rather not be wasteful.
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>>26462468
They also aren't really all that fun to play, or useful for killing someone like Aizen or Ywach.

Just saying, I want Bleach in my Bleach, not other shit.
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>>26462468
He even has a cool mask like us.
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>>26462473
And nobodies happy, including us.
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>>26462355
>1
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>>26462473
wait so the old man wasn't on borrowed time?

woo i thought he was.
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>>26462511
Old man was just a drama queen.
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>>26462507
I'm much happier than signing our friends death-warrant via self mutilation.
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>>26462493
>One of three named casualties during the Vandreich invasion Kira
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>>26462511
Yeah, he's just depressed. We should have a long talk with him when we aren't in the middle of a war.
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>>26462511
He is and we may still explode if we think about this to much or draw out to much power.
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>>26462473
"You know Ichigo" Your Hollow scowls "A king has to make hard decisions sometimes..."

>>26462489
Hopefully.
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>>26462511
he's trying to cut his own time short.

stirring up drama 'n shit errywur.

>>26462520
>died in literally five minutes Kira
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>>26462520
And instantly Squad 3 was out of members since it was only ever Kira and its two captains.
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>>26462503
Technically, the only reason it wasn't useful against Aizen was because Kyouka Suigetsu.

But now both Starrk and Harribel have never seen it release, nor have most of our other party members.

Plus completing the Hougyoku is going to be a lot more difficult for him than in canon, so we might be able to gank him before he can finish it.
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>>26462531
If its like that then we gotta take his deal and not start killing everything.
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>>26462531
this
we were all set to limit our powers, until we found out that GASP! we would limit our powers
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>>26462511
CAN YOU NOT SEE WHAT PIC HE POSTED

OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING IS UP.
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>>26462520
He's still alive.
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>>26462544
Hey one of those captains was filler, so he doesn't count.
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>>26462503
>CQC not useful
I'm sorry, but what? Shunko, something that when shown is pretty much the most powerful thing in the setting, and is never again used because it's inventor can /only barely/ control it.
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>>26462531
Calm your tits Zangetsu... We need to manifest you and have you sit down and chat with an expert.
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>>26462564
nope, Byakuya's still alive
there was 1 lieutenant killed when all the shit went down. At least he was blown in half on-screen
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>>26462503
I dunno man, I quite enjoyed Ishida sneaking about 12th D's HQ. Also! Cosgrove sounds like Corvo. Coincidence!?
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>>26462575
Just because he got a chunk taken out doesn't mean he's dead. Look at Byakuya and Rangiku.

So until the manga says he's dead, I say he's alive.
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>>26462355
3
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>>26462548
>completing the Hougyoku is going to be a lot more difficult for him than in canon

Thats assuming we actually KILLED Urahara's Hogyoku, and ignoring the possibility that it used its reality-warping powers to just get the hell out of dodge when we beat it. In which case, it has to be somewhere (three guesses as to where?), and this time around its fully sentient and hates our guts.

We might not have actually made things better in the long run when we beat it.
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>>26462573
That's... not a stupid idea actually.

Also got a laugh out of Cosgrove somehow being surprised that there was a huge divide on this MASSIVE latchkey moment.
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>>26462594

Shoot, meant to do this.

>3
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>>26462580
i just wish he can come out of that closet of his.
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>>26462605
>>26462594
Bad news: you are like, really late to the party.

Good news: your side won.
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>>26462598
Yes it is a stupid idea. 10 to 1 it eventually tries to kill us or our friends in order to take control if it's a new entity
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>>26462572
Shunko is another matter altogether. What I'm saying is that CQC itself and stealth will be minimally useful when trying to kill Hogyoku!Aizen or OMG. They can kind of, you know, regenerate and raise armies of the undead.

We need *power* to deal with that shit: More than we have now, or will likely ever have if we take this bloody deal.

Don't you see that this is Cosgrove penalizing us severely for not being willing to make sacrifices when necessary?
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>>26462595
I'm assuming that Aizen's current shitty Hougyoku is actually the shattered remains of Urahara's Hougyoku through some kind of instinctive time travel.
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>>26462615
More Bad News: it's probably getting us killed
More Good News: all the choices do that
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>>26462605
The vote is closed and neither of those would've been counted anyway.
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>>26462573
Wait. Waaaaaait. We're in this mess because OMz is essential to keeping our powers inact, while at the same time afraid that by taking the deal we're no longer able to stand up to our more powerful enemies.

Kinda like... A guy beng a normal guy 99% of the time, then transforming into a Hero of Justice when evil rears its ugly head?

Like... A guy with a mask... Masked... Rider?

GUYS THE ANSWER IS OBVIOUS. WE BECOME KAMEN RIDER.
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>>26462619
>OMG

Yeah no we're not fighting him.

Ever.

Especially not when he still has two arms.

Also I see that more as a difference of approach.

Do we want to shoulder everything for ourselves and be a lonely savior, or do we want to fight alongside our friends and trust in them as they trust in us?
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>>26462659
We may not have a choice, because Full Kubo.

That aside, I'm happy to fight with friends. Unfortunately, I don't think that will be enough to win our battles: Especially if we want to avoid casualties.
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“What would happen to all of that power? Would it vanish or could I give it to people instead?”

The Old Man shakes his head. “I’m not sure. I would not be able to say, though I would say it is highly doubtful for the latter. What is your choice?”

You frown. You could keep them both, but at the cost of your potential… What if you need it against Aizen? Or someone else?

“I’m going to keep the status Quo for now. I can’t really go messing with my powers when all of that’s going on out there. So, for now things will have to remain the way they are.”

Zangetsu scowls at you, visibly angry. “…This is bullshit, Ichigo!”

“Zangetsu, you told me what you want to protect is not what I want to protect. And so what I want, therefore is /not/ what you want.”

He gives you a visibly furious look before he dissolves away. You give the Old Man a serious look. “We’ll talk later.”

He nods as you find yourself back out in the real world. It seems like no time has passed Nearby, SoiFon is fighting with her Zanpakuto, energy bleeding from her body as she begins to take an offensive, though there are several odd butterfly marks on her. Ishida is still fighting the man in white, who seems to be withdrawing.

>actions?
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>>26462680
Eh, I don't know.

When that evil jackass Ginjou stole Ichigo's power, he tossed that out to his shitty friends like it was a party favor.

I don't know why we'd never be able to do the same.
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>>26462680
which is why, as soon as we're back with the group, we're spreading that excess power to everyone rather than just killing it. We can fight alongisde our friends, and no power is lost. Plus, the people we care about are stronger
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>>26462656
10/10 would read again.
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>>26462619
>Don't you see that this is Cosgrove penalizing us severely for not being willing to make sacrifices when necessary?
To which we respond by /not/ making a sacrifice...

Stellar logic there Anon.
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>>26462700
Fullbring Power only. I suppose it'd be something, but not likely enough.
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>>26462690
Chase fabulous coat man down. This shit needs to end NOW.
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>>26462690
great now zangetsu is pissed at us
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>>26462690
Cosgrove what the fuck?

That's not the tone we wanted at all.
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>>26462690
Zangetsu really is Canon Ichigo.
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>>26462656
>Become
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>>26462690
Ya it is Zangetsu... but don't worry buddy... we'll sort it out soon...

Help the Captain
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>>26462690
so our zanpakuto is pissed as shit at us, and i don't blame him at this point.
so us doing anymore fighting right now is probably terrible to do.
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>>26462690
getsuga Soi's zanpakuto
"ISHIDA! Finish up quick, we need to get back to everyone, fast!"
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>>26462690
Why did you make us phrase that in the most dickish way imaginable?

We were legitimately aplogetic to have to do that to Zangetsu.
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>>26462709
...thus leading to us being far to weak later and losing people close to us.

I see where you're coming from, but this is too fucking risky.

If we can somehow preserve that power in a tool, or Zanpakuto, or transfer it to our friends, then MAYBE, but no way in hell are we throwing it away.
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>>26462690
[x] help soi sauce.
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>>26462690
Dude, when we wanted to stall, the tone was contrite.

It was the people who wanted to just ditch the whole idea that were being that harsh.
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>>26462328
Something about having enough swords etc...
>>26462368
More like Blatant Friendship Quest, right?
Sorry.
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>>26462705
isn't that what Ywach did with the Quincies? Spread his power to his people?
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>>26462690
Help the Captain, glorious 2 handed, swordsmanship, blut vene. Cut that darn Suzu-bee's stinger off for now. Then you and soifon regroup to support Ishida
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>>26462690
I kinda want to steal Kenpachi's eyepatch while he's still unconscious. Can we do that?
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>>26462690
Looks like we lost his trust and power... at least for a little and after all his sacrifice... Really not a fan of that tone we took at all; but we're going to fix it somehow.

Somehow I don't think Getsuga's going to work right now... otherwise I'd try and hit the fairy AND the coat man.
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>>26462690
God damn it guys, why didn't we just fuck the Old Man up? Or set up an incremental system? We fucking owe Zangetsu and you all just kicked him to the curb with that
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>>26462755
>Do you have enough swords, Sealed King?!
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>>26462690
Save the captain save the world.
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>>26462690
Help Ishida, try to take down the guy he's fighting, but if he retreats don't chase him. Our job is done here.

Also, guys, Zangetsu was going to be pissed at that no matter what.You CANNOT forget that he's still a selfish greedy asshole. Its who he is, he's that part of us, thats what a Hollow is. Don't give in to his every whim just because he's feeling all butthurt, because what makes him happy and what is right are not always going to be the same thing, in fact I'd bet they'd be opposites more often than not.
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>>26462690
Just because you don't like our wanting to wait a bit before making such a life-changing decision without consulting with people we care about, doesn't mean that you need to phrase our words in the most inflammatory manner possible.

I'm annoyed enough to take a break.
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>>26462769
I agree. We're too damn determined to keep *everyone* alive, even someone that fucking Canon!Ichigo accepted letting go of.
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>>26462656
BRILLIANT!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_1NA5irknA
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>>26462781
while that is true, we really should have made some kind of choice there. Inaction helped nothing
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>>26462769
No; we put it on time out so we can get back to base and deal with the other shit happening.
We'll pull him out and apologize and sit him in front of the Arrncar so he can talk to them.

UNFORTUNATELY I won't be able to make that call if it's needed tonight since bed.
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>>26462690
If Soi Fon is STILL fighting her own Zanpakuto, then it might be prudent to help her with that.

Ishida's got Muramasa on the run, but the little captain is having trouble.

Let's hive her a helping hand.

Literally, we can catch her Zanpakuto with Blut and hold her still.
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>>26462769
We didn't want to kick him to the curb at all.

The goal was to say that we wanted to make an informed decision first.

I don't know how it wound up like that.
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>>26462755
>puts fedora on

M'lady
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I feel the need to point out that infusing our friends with our power may have the possibility of killing them, what with it being a monstrous mish-mash of everything that could case soul suicide.
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>>26462804
>Not catching it and slamming it against the ground.
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>>26462809
I thank Cos might be a little angry at us...or maybe I'm projecting.
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>>26462796
Canon Ichigo wasn't told of the possibility that he'd be unable to go home, plus he was two years older than us, and Yhwach was already loose and in danger of destroying everything.
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>>26462769
i think because we are pressed for time at the moment. I have to imagine any sort of indepth fucking around with soul mojo would take a bit to set in.

Once we're in a safe spot we'll see about solving things.

I wonder if we could give some of the power away via swordception?
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>>26462796
see
>>26461423
I wasn't kidding when I said this. It's that fucking idea that we /have/ to save everyone in every quest that makes sick going to them over time.
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>>26462796
>>26462769
we wanted an actual anser but mind you cosgrove made it so no matter what the shit we do we look bad hor have horribad luck.
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>>26462810
>>26462755

oh fuck you guys, i miss that quest even more now.
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>>26462825
if he is, he's got good reason
For the past few threads, we'vre bitched and reversed every important decision before settling on a choice that doesn't really do anything. I'd be kind of annoyed at us too, and I usually vote for status quo choices
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>>26462690
"You fucking suck."
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>>26462825
I think so too.

And that makes me angry right back if that's the case.

I mean if one of our core lessons we've gained from Chizuru is learning how our life affects others, why shouldn't we wait before we make a permanent decision.
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>>26462845
I can fully agree with him on that.
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>>26462820
the arrancars could handle it.
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>>26462690
>“Zangetsu, you told me what you want to protect is not what I want to protect. And so what I want, therefore is /not/ what you want.”

Yeah, that came out a little wrong. Something like, "We're in danger right now, let's worry about slashing our hands to save the neck later." would have been appreciated.

Well, for now, let's stop Soi from getting KO'd on a permanent basis, then we'll check in with Ishida. If Whitey is fleeing, we might get our second opinion faster than we thought.
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>>26462845
sorry buddy, I voted fusion
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>>26462821
...thus breaking it and keeping her from using it for a while.

>>26462829
I see your point, but it's still fucking stupid to throw away half your potential for someone who's willing to die.

The "too much power" thing can be dealt with in various ways, including tech, transference, or simply maxing out our control.
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>>26462849
You know who else is angry at us?

Our BFF

>The feels
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>>26462821
Whatever works, but we have a serious advantage over little miss badass in this situation, we should use it.

>>26462845
And vaporizing everything wouldn't?
Partners don't kill partner's friends, bro.
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>>26462836
Solve present point of crisis, then sort out our soul mojo when we are momentarily not In mortal peril, like say after we've given SoibFon the plot dump and can expose Aizen to scrutiny & talk to our friends when SS doesn't want us dead.
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>>26462873
Could we also have Hime help contain our power with her rejection ability?
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>>26462845
I voted making the old man a sword
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>>26462690
Kind of felt this direction went against how we portrayed Ichigo to be, I thought we should have given up the Old Man
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So, if our inner world is a reflection of our state of mind, and we the posters are Ichigo's mind, if we're divided shouldn't Zangetsu and the Old Man know we're torn up about this?
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>So there was some support of helping Soi Fong and using Blut Vene to catch the Zanpakuto spirit.

>That what you guys want?
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>>26462834
Look no matter what we have dire consequences

Keeping things how they are, even briefly, pisses Zangetsu off.

Letting the Old Man die could mean letting go to pretty much /everything/ we care about.

Doing the merger could mean watching Aizen and Yhwach kill our friends while Cosgrove trolls us.
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>>26462893
We should have, it would have fit better but noooooooooooooo
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>>26462844
Oh, I agree. I'm just commenting. Honestly, I'm more than a little pissed at our behavior myself.
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>>26462845
... ya we really need to manifest him when we get the chance and apologize; that's WAY too big of a decision to make on the fly.
Hoping Nel or Lilly/ Stark can help

>Captcha: Unnamed ishval
Looks like captcha might like the Alchemist Quest Idea I've been playing with
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>>26462900
they probably do
probaby wouldn't make either of them less pissed about the final decision
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>>26462905
eh, sure.
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>>26462873
Which we don't know about yet. And even if we did we would have no way to implement them without trekking our MURDER AURA all across this shitty afterlife like some elder thing the SS legit has to kill like this faggot sword here.
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>>26462905
Well, yes.
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>>26462905
yes
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>>26462905
Sounds good.
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>>26462905
Yup
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>>26462905
That sounds logical, I'm down.
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>>26462878
This is just like Urahara... we'll have to endure. We made our bed.
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>>26462893
>>26462907
Why the fuck would we do that if that meant we could kill our friends just by being near them?

We're not Canon Ichigo, we understand we matter to others.
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>>26462891
which was a good idea.
and why, once we get back, we need to ask the Arrancars "how do I Resurrection?"
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>>26462905
I want to change the old man into a sword and then get one of those reiatsu eating things.
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>>26462905
CQC that fairies shit
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>>26462893
>I thought we should have given up the Old Man, thereby releasing our full power and KILLING ORIHIME.

Fixed that for you bro.
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>>26462905
Yes; we'll at least do ONE thing for sure tonight... and that's get a butterfly tattoo when Blut doesn't work.
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>>26462905
Ayup.

Then we can support Ishida and find out who whitey is, possibly while asking him if they make that coat in a men's cut
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>>26462949
Yeah, that would have been a nice option.
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>>26462878
Man if he could tell us in good confidence that we wouldn't kill all our friends, and eventually be hunted down and destroyed by OMG and/or Zero Squad, maybe we'd have listened.
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>>26462905
yes!
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Only thing I have a problem is is that it is sprung on us at the worst possible time, there are a few faults in logic as well.
No fault of Cos for but for fucks sake springing this now is like the worst thing.
I fucking hate attempts at kobayashi maru situations. Even if they are accidental.
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>>26462971
Ishida has been making the necessary modifications midfight
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>>26462972
I pushed for that question, but I guess it was too late. In any case we pow wow with all of our hollow buddies as soon as we can.
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Guys, you know...
if it ever does come around to letting OMZ go...

We could just use a limiter like a captain.
Or two.

Limiting ourselves intentionally by a factor of eight with the ability to regain that power is something we should seriously consider.

We can even use an aria to release it.
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Rolled 19, 8, 2 = 29

>>26462844
There's a few things irritating me right now, yes.

>So Blut Vene catch, alrighty.

>3d20, first to keep up with shunpo, second for Blut Vene, third for a CQC catch
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>>26462982
Pretty much yeah.

The thing I'm most annoyed about is that the Old Man thought NOW was the best time to spring that bullshit on us.

When everyone we know is in indeterminate danger, we have no idea just how strong Aizen is, or what the fuck being a Sealed King means.
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Rolled 11, 19, 18 = 48

>>26463005

Keep the little bee busy.
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Rolled 11, 11, 5 = 27

>>26463005
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Rolled 14, 2, 10 = 26

>>26463005
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>>26463001
Fucking this
I cant believe we chose to just leave it be
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>>26463005
Sure thing, boss.
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>>26462992
Man, we are dragging his ass to Shibuya fashion district some weekend and coming if him to participate in the weekly armature fashion/costume crawl as an amateur designer. One he gets discovered, shit will be cash for him. Plus we can bring like a fuckton of models for him between the lot of us.
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>>26462982
>"Everything's perfectly fine..."
>"TORPEDOS LOCKED! WHAT ARE YOUR ORDERS?!"
>"It's all ok... just hold..."
>"SIR SHIELDS AND LIFE SUPPORT ARE FAILING!"
>"I need to call some friends."
>"CRITICAL HAUL BREACH!"
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Rolled 1, 2, 15 = 18

>>26463005
Lets do this shit
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>>26463005
Well we're pretty annoyed with all this too.

Time and place man.
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>>26463009
alright, I think we made it.
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>>26463024
Everything is fucked.
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>>26462982
welcome to bleach quest! where anything canon will be merged, eaten by cosgrove and he regurgitates it back to us!
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>>26463001
Agreed. Without a doubt.

I think we should get however many forms of power-control are necessary, warp to Hueco Mundo, let the Old Man go, and then use them all at once. That should keep us from being a walking death machine without turning us into a walking death wish.
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>>26463024
Crit Master II.

Maybe III as well.
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Rolled 9, 18, 16 = 43

>>26463047
agreed
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>>26463005
is this because of our choices? because you kind of forced us into a corner.
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>>26463005
... sorry Cosgrove... sorry Zangetsu... somehow we'll make it up to both of you...
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>>26463038
Not completely there is still critmaster 2 and the other rolls
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>>26463047
No III, we have awesome rolls on Blut and CQC.

Definetly use II though.
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>>26463054
i think it's less our choices and more the fact taht we refused to make any
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>>26463013
Thing is, we can't do any of that shit NOW.

We're currently standing in the middle of a blast crater, people are fighting all around us, we're in Aizen's back yard, and our people are in danger.

Doing any of that shit requires someone to actually MAKE said limiters, put them on us, teach them how to release and reseal them, and all the shit that goes with it.

You're acting like we can just teleport to Urahara's magical hammerspace and get an upgrade mid-crisis just because we have a theoretical good idea.
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>>26463043
Agreed.
>>26463023
Except this is an ensign coming up and trying to give us a report of how everything is fucked while we are trying to handle how everything is fucked.
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>>26463062
Seconding
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>>26463043
...I hope they aren't flowers, though.

Flower tattoos are cliche.
What about a nice, gothic-font 15?
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>>26463059
Definitely...somehow. You're both too great to let down permanently.
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Rolled 11, 18, 13 = 42

>>26463005

I ALREADY SAW THAT NAT ONE AND I WILL STILL ROLL.

because it won't count anyway.
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>>26463076
Well I am glad someone is paying attention.
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>>26463076
Dude seriously? were fucking in SS right now, The only people around us who could die are in the slums outside
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>>26463001
We need to do this along with talking to the Arrancars. We might need to do both.

>>26463013
Hard to walk up to 12th and buy a limiter when we go with Zangetsu and there IS no more 12th any more...


Zangetsu can be pissed offl but in the end he'll get his wish. We just need to do a little prepwork.
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>>26462982
There are such things as situations with no good answer. Were the "I don't believe in the no win scenario," choice screws you over harder than being decisive and picking an option.
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>>26463094
and Tatsuki
and Orihime
and Keigo
and Mizuiro
and possibly Momo, she's pretty weak and beat up now
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>>26463005
Well fuck, that's what happens when you encourage paranoia.

Also you're going too far too fast.

I'm pretty sure you wanted us to take the merger, since such a major change would require you to have already worked it out probably, but how can I know you're not going to punish the fuck out of us for that choice, by having Aizen mock our teamwork by killing all our friends and you post an image macro saying "you could have prevented this".
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>>26463005
cos but half the shit that happens is usually cause we are ALWAYS stuck in some retarded ass mess cause the dice hate us.
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>>26463005
>Rollen
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>>26463094
And Orihime who is standing right next to us. And an untold number of Shinigami mooks who would die from the pressure, thus turning us into an mass-murdering monster.

He told us the risks. Us exploding and killing everyone around us was a very real possibility, and you want to risk it just to appease Zangetsu's ego and lack of impulse control.
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>>26463094
That's not the fucking issue.
The issue is that this is not the time or the place for a decision this huge. We are in the middle of a battle, our archenemy is near, our friends are being attacked and we have to explain things to Soi Fon.
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>>26463081
Why does it have to be a tattoo, though?
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>>26463076
You're right about that. Postponing was pretty much an unfortunate necessity, at least if OMZ's explanation was accurate.

That doesn't mean we should have taken that deal though.
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Rolled 11, 12, 3 = 26

>>crit master II?
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>>26463115
no you fucking retard OM said that it would only effect our family and normal humans
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>>26463133
yes
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>>26463043
This; we WILL let Zangetsu have his freedom. He's earned it. We just don't want him accidentlying our friends, family, and loved ones.
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>>26463133
yep.
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>>26463133
>y
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>>26463117
we did take a deal from him not long ago.
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>>26463130
because captain-style limiters are.
doesn't mean we can't have an awesome belt buckle, though.
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>>26463069
We did make a choice though, i am happy with it, with more time and some investigation we might be able to come up with a better alternative.
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>>26463133
Ya; I don't want to be vaporized tonight. We already upset you (and Zangetsu) so one made decision and one non-complete fuckup would make me feel a little better.
sorry bros
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>>26463076
Exactly. Pulling this on us now is. Well to be frank. A hasty implementation.
>>26463107
This is not one of those times, and we did not do inaction. we deferred. As far it looks, consensus seems to let OMZ go when we can get proper limiters. And good because I'm frankly pissed the fucker pulled it on us now. There is such a thing as oversaturation.
Plot convergence is fine, but this is a bit much.
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>>26463133
No we're not going beat the 19.
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>>26463133
[x] YES
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>>26463134
No he didn't.

He said that being unable to go back to the human world was the BEST case scenario.

The worst case was that EVERYBODY lacking sufficient strength would die.
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>>26463134
>“It means, more than likely, that your power will likely increase to the point you will no longer be able to return to the world of the living if you are lucky. If you aren’t… your very presence might annihilate anything that isn’t strong enough that approaches you from the sheer intensity.”
he said that the best case scenario is that we only kill our family and normal humans. worst case is that we either live like hermits in Hueco Muendo or OMG has no choice but to put us down
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>>26463151
point.
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>>26463165
Oh hey remember last night when Old Man Drug Carttel'd us? Ya no. Not happening again.
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>>26463173
Which makes me wonder how he handles such a power without nuking the guard. Pacing here seems fucked up.
I just want to talk to Soi damnit.
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>>26463082
For Zangetsu, we help him/us seduce Tobiume when we fight her later.

"I can't hurt you, just like I won't hurt Momo ever again. Stop this, Tobiume, you are as much a part of her as Zangetsu is me." If we've disarmed her with our charms, move in, act like we're going in for the kiss, let Zangetsu take it by manifesting him again. His next step will be to do the same with Homomo. Then Momo can freak out adorably as there is a threesome in her inner world between her sword, hollow, and our Zangetsu. Then 'Hime complains about not having an internal sexy party with Ichigo too, and then just jumps Ichigo and Momo in the real world because really, why wouldn't she?
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>>26463134
>If you aren’t… your very presence might annihilate anything that isn’t strong enough that approaches you from the sheer intensity.

Us *ONLY* being prevented from returning to the human work was the BEST case scenario. In the worst we go nuclear and wipe out everything in the vicinity.
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>>26463165
if we don't beat a 19, that's fine
if we get a 1 vs 19, Suzemebacci double taps us and we die
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>>26463208
No it just means we don't catch up the other rolls the bee had where really low.
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>Make triumphant cover image now that Zangetsu is finally free
>Finally get into the thread
>Read through
>"The Ultimatum"
>Zangetsu pissed and rightfully so

... you know what? I can't deal with this. I'm going to bed.

Steal Kennys limiter and give Zangetsu his fucking chance.
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>>26463107
...and yet you voted for the power-loss deal, which was exactly that. The choice was supposed to be OMZ vs. True Zangetsu.

We whined about it, so Cosgrove gave us a 3rd option with a ridiculously high price.

We refused that, being sane and all, and decided to wait until we weren't standing among our closest friends to make the decision which might kill everyone around us.
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>>26463133
No.

Also Cos, you seem stressed. Have a qt3.14 dog pic to brighten your day.
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>>26463228
Kenpachi's eyepatch would self-destruct.

You don't get how stupid strong we are.
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>>26463082
I'm still not sure how to make it up to Cosgrove...possibly by going out with him for snow cones, or sending him meat. Does Omaha steaks so singly lad orders?
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>>26463230
Unfortunately we did not pitch it that way to Zangetsu... most likely as a reflection of what Cosgrove is feeling right now.
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>>26463228
Kenny's eyepatch couldn't handle us.

Full-power Ichigo is on an entirely different level, which people don't seem to comprehend.
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>>26463133
Yes
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>>26463240
And that's why I'm really irritated with him right now.

There's a limit, and you can only go so far past it.
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>>26463230
Except, accepting the power loss wasn't "I don't believe in the no lose scenario," it was "family and friends are more important than power."

Which if you possessed anything resembling a brain rather than a perfect vacuum, you would realize is the entire fucking theme of the quest up to this point.

So don't talk to me about "being sane" when you picked to pussy out of the entire decision.
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>>26463245
>Full-power Ichigo is on an entirely different level

Seriously guys, there is a REASON people are theorizing Ichigo might become Soul King by the end of the manga.
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The whole problem is that Aizen has the potential to become almost as bullshit as we can, and Yhwach is unknown, but probably way up there.

Not to mention if the Soul King becomes an enemy.

Everything else, Barragan, Ulquiorra, etc. could be handled by teamwork, but those first guys?
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>>26463287
>Aizen has the potential to become almost as bullshit as we can
We broke the Hogyouku. Bull fucking shit he does.
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>>26463230
the third option was pre-planned and i suspect what cosgrove wanted us to take.
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>>26463277
And what happens when Aizen pastes all our family and friends because nobody has the power to stand against him?

And Aizen isn't even the strongest enemy we might have to face before the end.

Handicapping ourselves so that we can feel good about how noble and smart we are is a great way to back ourselves into a no-win everyone dies scenario.
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>>26463240
I dislike the fact this seems rushed. I'm worried what will happen when he has no more Canon to tap. I was intrigued with the Chizuru demifiend angle, but other than that, its been standard plot from different angles all jumbled together. The biggest issue is we do NOT have enough information. I'm honestly torn between the split and consumption, but right now it feels like this was hurried.
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>crit master II
>shunpo, BV, CQC
>14,19,18&19
>vs12

You shunpo over towards Soi Fong and her Zanpakuto spirit. Reinforcing yourself with Blut Vene, you quickly grab it as it struggles.

It tries to sting you, but your Blut’s reinforcement is too strong and you give her a smirk before looking at Soi Fong.

“Any time now?”

She nods, stabbing her sword through the spirit as it fades away. She closes her eyes and lets out an exhale. She opens her eyes and nods at you.

“Thank you.”

She pauses. “…though you and I will still be having a long conversation.”

You nod as the both of you go to reinforce Ishida, only to see him knocked back as the Man in white vanishes.

>Actions
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>>26463287
Aizen was beaten by Ichigo before he got retarded powerful
Yhwach would almost definately be easier to fight as a team.
The Soul King? He's a god, the only way to beat him is with a fuckload of strong people-one super-powered guy won't cut it
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>>26463302
That's assuming we actually broke it.

Urahara mentioned that it might have teleported away.
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>>26463277
Well, that's what we want the theme of the quest to be.

The question is if that was what /Cosgrove/ wants it to be.

Like that's what I'm a little afraid of, since Cosgrove had no problem making the Zangetsu vs OMG fight take center stage to the point where nothing else mattered, including the fact that Momo was saved.

If he's that willing to make us be the center of attraction, maybe he wants us to be more like canon Ichigo.
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>>26463302
He still has his sword. He might have a BANKAI
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>>26463322
well that was quick

Go help ishida fight the guy in the fancy suit
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>>26463322
>Help Ishida
>Check in on friends
>Find out about alternate methods of power / reduction

In that order. If this guy's gone, we've got the day to figure our shit out, then we can go save the world. Time to get our next mid-season power... um... Side-ways?
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>>26463322
>>26463342
Whoops misread
Spirit sense
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>>26463277
To clarify, dumbass, I didn't. I voted to make the fucking decision right then. I was for letting OMZ go. I just don't consider the move we ended up making to be less wise than permanently crippling ourselves.

Also, please do tell me how clinging to some half-traitorous spiritual parasite who is happy to die is protecting our friends and family?

Friends and family are more important than power, but reducing ourselves to such a degree that we might NOT be able to do that is utterly foolish.
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>>26463322
Time to go back to the Shiba, THEN we can deal with Zangetsu.
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>>26463322
contact Miz, ask if Yoruichi minds if we bring Soi Fong back to base, because otherwise we're stuck here
if we get the ok, gather Ishida and Orihime, tell Soi Fong
"If you want to know what's going on, come with us. But I'm going to need you to promise not to attack the people you may see"
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>>26463322
Check on Ishida and plot to get the fuck outta the SS or at the very least have them send out our Rapetrain who is also the key to getting our power in check.
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>>26463359
>please do tell me how clinging to some half-traitorous spiritual parasite who is happy to die is protecting our friends and family?

The part where he was preventing us from going nuclear and killing everyone around us?
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>>26463322
>Actions?

Check up on Ishida.
Ask Soi-Fon if there are any other zanpakuto that are going berserk at the moment.
Gather up Hime and prepare for extraction, unless Soi-Fon still has questions of her own.
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>>26463354
This sounds good, but only if Muramasa is actually gone.
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>>26463366
>>26463364
these
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>>26463359
See this?

This is what we could become.

Only worse.
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>>26463380
Which is why waiting and acquiring alternative means of limitation make sense. OMZ is something we should let go of, but we still need a means of controlling ourselves.

That doesn't mean we need to permanently damage ourselves.
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>>26463366
>>26463364
these two sound good
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>>26463321
Yeah this.

Everything is moving so fast that it's hard to appreciate the characters, and I liked the way Cosgrove handled character actions.

It feels like there's been way too much of everyone just standing around watching Ichigo do cool things, and being the one who's doing the things doesn't really make it much better.
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>>26463402
Yes, I agree with that entirely.

I'm just saying that letting him go RIGHT THEN CHOOSE NOW GO GO GO FUCKING GO DO IT NOW...

Would have been about as foolish a decision as we could possibly have made.
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>>26463402
>>26463393
>>26463380
>>26463277
Guys, maybe we should shelve this debate for a while? Everyone is hot blooded at the moment, and that's making us act like idiots. All of us.

Let's take a breath, play the game, and discuss this calmly when it comes time to actually make the decision.
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>>26463402
if by "permanently damage ourselves" you mean "keep Ichigo to a maximum power of pre-time skip" we do need to. He got far to powerful for the story to be interesting
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>>26463419
Which is why I think Option 3 would have worked out for us, because the first two options were all kinds of flawed, especially in a "right here right now" way.

But at the same time, I just can't completely trust Cosgrove to not make Yhwach escape in the next ten threads, or for Aizen to gain a complete Hougyoku.
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>>26463439
Just a friendly reminder we don't have the bankai yet, and likely wouldn't have it without our OMZ acting as our limiter.
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>>26463450
this is true, cosgrove does do terrible things like that often.
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>>26463322
Spirit Sense.
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>>26463436
It's hard to do that if Cosgrove is also mad, and that's coloring his writing.

He already let his frustration alter how we phrased things to Zangetsu to pretty much make us be complete assholes about it, and that is borderline unacceptable.
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>>26463321
>>26463418

this is what's irritating me, too.

SS rescue arc? Well, it was inevitable. If not Rukia, then Momo. And if not Momo, someone else.

Zanpakuto arc? One of the best fillers. Sure. Awesome.

Memories of Nobody? Fuck yeah.

all of them at once, within the span of maybe what, six threads so far? With no real chance to appreciate the things that made them uniquely awesome?

>>26463413
I'll throw my vote in with this. Because of the consequences of what will ensue.
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>>26463450
>>26463465
Lo and behold, the crux of not appearing like a faustian bargain making player versus DM situation.
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>>26463450
Or Arturo, if he eats the right people.
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>>26463322

"Ishida? Are you okay?"

Survey area, attempt to contact the Miz.

"Long story short, Aizen, Gin, & Tousen were the real culprits behind the forced Hollowfication of Captains & Lts 100 years ago, Shinji and Hiyori are witnesses and it was Stupid of the central govt to sentence them to death before they even could wake up to defend themselves. He did the same to Momo with a slow boil intending her to be a berserk suicide bomb agains me and my family. Me...I'm the child of a Quincy who was infected by the bite of a werehollow/Shinigami hybrid causing her to start to mutate into a living hollow, whose transformation was stilled by a powerful Shinigami, who she had been injured saving from said hollow some days prior, giving up his powers and taking on human form to keep the whole thing in check. They fell in love soon after, I got born, she got killed by a hollow when her Quincy powers diapered defending me a couple of years back, and like a month ago I was killed by some street punks, got attacked by a hollow, started to become one, and found my Shinigami powers sleeping inside me at the last second to save my ass before crawling back into my body, finding all that and other shit out, falling in love, twice, and dealing with the activation of my other powers. Now I really need to see a doctor and a scientist before my powers, now in careful balance after what just happend, have a meltdown of dangerous proportions. Any recommendations?"
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>>26463450
At this point anyone could gain the awakened Hougyoku if Urahara's still exists
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>>26463366
>>26463364
these two
and guys, please stop arguing. try to calm down, and come up with plans for how to deal with our inner problems once we get back to the safehouse
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>>26463439
BAH, PUNY COWARD AFRAID OF OWN STRENGTH
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>>26463470
>borderline unacceptable
No, it's completely unacceptable for him to do that.

If he did that. I can't say if he did or did not because truthfully I don't feel like going over 200+ post debate to see where people were leaning but it's clear /after/ that wasn't how the /players/ wanted it handled in the least.
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>>26463494
This is one of the few settings where there is actually good reason to fear your strength, because at best its a murderous asshat who wants to live and at worst will give us a aura that passively kills our friends and family as can do nothing to stop ourselves.
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>>26463494
You know one of the reasons why Canon Aizen was such a jackass?

Because he felt that he was so fucking strong that he was isolated from everyone around him.
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>>26463494
>BAH, PUNY COWARD AFRAID OF OWN STRENGTH
It's literally a destructive force that rapekills anything not strong enough to withstand it though.
There is very good reason to be afraid.
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>>26463475
It's really a lot like the difference between Zangetsu and Ichigo.

What kind of story does he want to tell vs what kind of story do we want to participate in.
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>>26463470
>>26463514

You know what?

bite me.

I run this Quest because its fun and I like people having fun. I try not to be irritated and all, but I won't make shit unwinnable, no matter what you go with.

And, no, I try not to let my attitude affect my writing. If I do or it seems like that once in a while, I apologize.

But maybe sometimes I don't like feeling like I've wasted my time and efforts of writing and giving people options that are trying to be somewhat fair, even allowing you to push off an important decision, only to be told I'm being completely unacceptable.

If I make a mistake I own up to it, but I'm not going to deal with this any more tonight.

I'm going to bed.

Bleach Quest is on a short hiatus until further notice because right now I really AM pissed.
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Good night everyone. I hope calm permeates our membership soon. Try not to kill anyone important to us, also try not to permanently disable us if we can just get some limiters stuck on us.

Try to make up with Zangetsu.

Sorry for the shitsorm, Cosgrove.
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>>26463609
night Cos, sorry for the wanton douchbaggery
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>>26463609
Fuckin A
Night Cos
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Hey guys passed out whats going o-
Oh
Oh fuck.
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>>26463470
>>26463514
Great fucking job assholes. You do realize the kind of shit QMs go through for us, right?

I might have cut the thread for the night, if I were him, but he kept going out of consideration...and then some of you decided to go after him over it.

Yes, he was clearly upset. No, you didn't have to be bitches about it.
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>>26463609
cry harder fag

if you don't want something to happen don't give the option
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People feel like they've been backed into a corner so they bite and everyone ends up angry, i've seen it happen before and it'll happen again, it's no-one's fault.
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>>26463609
Night cos, sorry for this.


>>26463648
> Players
> entitlement
...seems about right, no?
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>>26463652
Get the fuck out.
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>>26463609
Fucking awesome

This is why we need to actually /think/ in the future guys, rather than just spazzing out and going with the moment.

We should have explained the limiter idea to Zangetsu and said that we would give him his freedom if he would just give us a bit more time.

Instead no, now he's pissed at us, OMZ is disappointed in us, and Cos is mad at us too. All rightly so.

Goodnight Cos, sorry for all the bullshit.
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>>26463652
Hey, shit like this, /not helping/.
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>>26463648
It's a valid fucking concern shithead.

If we're going to be talking to a bunch of NPCs, and he's the one who decides what the NPCs say, then that's a disaster waiting to happen.

We already probably completely burnt out our goodwill with Zangetsu, and that was just the start.
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>>26463609
Still I have to thank you for your machine like pression in running the quest till now. Have a nice night and I hope you will forgive /tg/ for the actions a few of its baser members.
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>>26463665
its usually how quests die.
i'm thinking this quest has a total of about maybe 5 more?
then its probably gonna implode.
based off of the past from other quests.
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>>26463678
Im pissed because i dropped this idea several times and was either ignored or told to fuck off
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>>26463678
We said we just wanted more time.

Cosgrove didn't write it that way.

That's the whole fucking problem.
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>>26463708
You can't always stall.
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>>26463708
Ding ding ding. What basically ended happening was us telling Zangetsu was to fucking 'deal with it' which isn't what people wanted to do.
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>>26463678
If we spent more time in our inner world shit could have gotten worse in the outside world, if we got rif of OMZ we could have inadvertently killed those we sought to protect, if took a third option we may not have been able to deal with future threats.

There were more consequences than merely the ones we suffered.
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>>26463652
Dude don't antagonize the QM, this isn't even constructive criticism or a remotely valid complaint. The guy is doing this for us and the least we can do is try not to shit where we eat.
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>>26463609
Yo cos, if you want, I can back out of the thread and serve as an method of bouncing ideas off of. This shit seems to be a lot to handle by oneself. The main issue right now appears to be a miscommunication between QM and participants but I'd be willing to offer any help I can.
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>>26463652
Anon, do everyone a favor, take an axe to your computer, then go find a bridge to die under. You fail to understand all things GM.
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>>26463699
I really hope not.

Even if I think we could stand to have a bit less pressure be constantly placed on us, it's still by far my favorite quest.

Though to be honest with the pacing it sometimes feels like we're way past the halfway point.
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>>26463739
> implying that was a player and not a random Troll
No.
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>>26463609
Cosgrove, feel better, I am sorry if I have been party to any of the problems this thread had produced. I greatly enjoy and appreciate your quest. You are a total bro of a QM. I am sorry if I fed into the people talking about you as if you weren't here to your face, making meta conjecture about you as though you were an NPC and not the QM with my snow cone and Omaha Steaks bit. You and your quest are awesome and I try to stick around at the risk of friction in my marriage, not the fun kind. Goodnight, Godspeed, I as a player will be here when you return, if you return, when you return. Else I will pine for this as I do the lost Mutie Quest;but if that is the cost of your well being after tonight... Then so be it.
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I... can't really say I'm surprised, something like this has been on the horizon for a while now.

There were just too many plotlines all crashing in to each other, too many competing themes all vying for the spotlight, and too much shit happening in the background to keep everything straight. It was inevitable that the players would end up on twenty different pages and a shitstorm would occur.

Really though, last thread was pretty much 100% bro-bonding with Zangetsu, then the beginning of this thread comes along and basically tells us to choose between OMZ (who we have VERY valid practical reasons for keeping around) and Zangetsu (who, while bro, has no forethought or impulse control). And to top it all off, this choice came up in the middle of a crisis where we couldn't just sit down and hash out a reasonable solution with our allies who know more about this shit than we do and could have helped.

It isn't surprising that there would be a massive divide between the two options, which is what started this death spiral in the first place. Cos taking the exact wrong tone was just an unfortunate side-effect of the players ripping themselves a new asshole because the decision presented was so divisive.
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Hey guys, I just wanted to complain about the faggot that Archived the last thread with *action* in the description, or for even using shit like that on 4chan in the first place. Seriously, who does that? Hated Freeform RPers, that's who. /jp/ even went so far as to make informational posters/stickies against shit like that a few years back.

>>26463609
Welp.

Night Cos, it's been rather fun on your Wild Ride now that Kubo's has stalled.
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>>26463609
my first response
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>>26463609
Welp saw this coming, last few threads you guys were whiny bitches for no reason at all, so when cosgrove get's pissed this thread and unintentionally gives you guy's reason to whine you get pissed then he gets pissed more and everything goes to hell, it's a shame too I don't participate in this quest but it's fun to read at the archives, hope he can calm down and finish it soon before total catastrophe.
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>>26463609
Even Kubo needed to take a month off.

You're stll BEST QM on /tg/.

See you 'round the bend, Cos.
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>>26463773

I had actually asked if anyone had some better ideas for the description, but all I got was pretty much "just hurry up and archive it already". As those were the only title suggestions around, I figured I may as well combine them. Sorry, man.
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....well, this went well.

Fuck.
This is what I get for not coming up with smart shit soon enough.

Fuck.
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>>26463879
Not your fault Gale, we're all kinda to blame for this.

Wanna play some Warframe?
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>>26463888
Shooting shit would be pretty cool right now.

Maybe I'll end up drawing something. As always, requests are welcome. I'll see them at some point, whether in the thread or foolz.
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The only way for us now is to find zen, by going back to. THE HEART of /tg/ and that is to remember how to be excellent to one another. Those who can, ride this thread till it dies. Those who can't sleep when you must. Keep the archived stoked, and find your inner excellences my friends.

>>26460964
Gale, I want to say again that you rock, and you rock, out of idle curiosity, could you email me the assorted files of the fan art you've made so far, I have not been saving it with proper names and cannot find what I fownloaded from the last bajillion threads in my downloads.

Also, thanks again for choosing my Improvaizen gag from among the plethora we've all accumulated.
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>>26463879
>>26463888
Already on, if you two going to be.

Need something to do now that the thread went boom.
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>>26463879
What is the smart shit?

Like we can dick over Zangetsu, even though he demonstrated so much loyalty (not competence, pretty sure he actually made everything worse, but loyalty).

Say goodbye to the Old Man and also pretty much everyone below Captain-Class (and be regarded as a threat by Yamamoto and Squad Zero).

Or we can say goodbye to overwhelming power and continue to open our heart to others.

But that only works if Cosgrove well and truly believes in that theme being valid.
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>>26463918
>requests
How close are you to achieving the perfect "assertive Orihime" look?
Because... a certain scene in the manga might have this kind of overtones...

Case in point:
>"I shall take the lead, if you don't mind?"
>"Huh? Nah, it's fine..."
>"Kurosaki-kun. I shall take the lead, if you don't mind?"
>"... okay... please do."

Just change the context of the situation and presto!
Don't even need to change the dialogue much.

Orihime Skill Acquired: Assertive Persuasion III
- Once every Bleach Quest, Orihime can convince Ichigo to let things go her way just by putting emphasis on his last name.
Exceptions of use: Whenever Orihime refers to Ichigo as "Kurosaki-kun" more than once in one BQ, usage of this skill is instantly negated.
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>>26463943
And we kill our friends because we become to strong.

Because as you said Zangetsu is not competant and I really don't think we should intrust the part of us whose only solution is murder by extreme force with keeping our powerlevel in the zone where we can have friends.
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>>26463926
It might take a while, since I started drawfagging for the quest when I didn't have my laptop- the drawings are spread over a couple computers now.

Let me see what I've got on this one, though.

>>26463943
Captain Limiters. An eyepatch like Kenpachi's. Anything that would have made "hold on for a while" sound like "let's get our affairs in order before we nuke everything" instead of "lolno just do what I say."

With a pair or set of limiters we could not only keep our potential, but exist alongside everything beneath our level.

If we had noticed this before deciding what to so- if I had come up with that earlier, we might not have fucked ourselves over so badly.
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>>26463794
>>26463784
I fucking love having the perfect reaction images

Keep doing your thing Cos, you're doing everything right in my book. It's /tg/ who's at fault here, for always wanting the super happy ending.
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>>26463943

And I think we should stop talking about Cosgrove like he is some far away mangaka or writer whom we aren't firstly interacting with and if any of us have a particular issue with how something was handled we don't talk about it and he with derision, we be excellent and try to talk to him about it in a civil fashion (yes even on 4chan) or better yet, aim for a course correction on our own with subsequent actions.

I cite as example the Taiga Dojo shenanigans from back in the warehouse, while not a perfect example because it does have the beginnings of hostility toward him as our QM, it resolved in a satisfactory and funny way.

Also...I'm sad, who else is sad...going to go to bed soon as an eastbro who is having trouble staying awake/containing all these assorted types of feels.
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>>26463989
If that's wrong then is it worth being right?
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>>26463975
The problem with all these SMART ideas is we needed the solution RIGHT FUCKING THEN so our choses were OMZ becomes Zangetsu even though he wants to die and really doesn't care because we friended him so hard, Having Zangetsu eat the Old Man who although loyal is batshit insane and makes everything worse.

Or maiming our powerlevel permanently considering our choices I think we did very well.
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>>26463975
But that's not really our fault at all.

That is exactly what we meant when we said wait.

The people going lolnope were voting for option 2.

That's how this whole argument began.
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...Well, this night could've been better. Who wants to hear my idea from last night of who could've probably saved our ass from the Old Man, even though it will probably give Cosgrove...ideas?
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>>26463975
Thank you very much, Gale, my email is in the post with my request.
Have a good night all, see you in the morning.
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>>26464005
it corrupts the thread because the main character can't ever lose or the quest is over, so if the main character keeps choosing 'risk myself to save others' he'll always save them.
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>>26463943
Option #4

Wait to say goodbye to the Old Man until we can get one of the science-types to rig us up with enough limiters to handle our power.

We'll have ACCESS to our full power should we need them while being able to limit them when we don't, and Zangetsu finally gets to have that annoying geezer move out of his apartment so he can do Zanpakuto stuff in peace.

Sure Zangetsu might bitch that we aren't going full blast all the time, but as pretty much the entire Zanpakuto Rebellion and Beast Swords arcs showed, Zanpakutos are not great at long-term planning or rational decision making unless it pertains to killing stuff. Zangetsu probably even less so because he's also a Hollow.

It just came too late for people to pick up on the suggestion.
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>>26464032
Sure does it involve shooting Starrk outta the cannon into the citadel so he can end the freaky whitecoat guy and teach us to turn our powerlevels and OMZ into a new friend?
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>>26464010
...not really.

Sure, Zangetsu might get angry if we didn't choose to abandon OMZ RIGHT THEN AND THERE, but hurt feelings won't kill him. He's a big boy, he'll get over it. He seems to be the kind of guy who only lives in the moment and doesn't really think about things in the long term, no matter how good of an idea it might be.
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>>26464056

Aha, I wish. Oh god, I wish that was the idea I had. No, what I had in mind involved a case of cruel irony.
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>>26464041
Maybe that's why we should keep the other king instead of White.
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>>26464041
And that's why we fucking decided on waiting.

Because if you wait to get an informed opinion, you can decide any number of things, including options that you didn't know were available the first time around.
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>>26464075
Please then share it with the class.

>xplainin still
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>>26464078
> Ichigo
> wait
Silly, silly /tg/.
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>>26463989
Not wanting to have to say goodbye to all our friends (and then be killed by Yamamoto).

Or wanting to give up most of our power (and then watch as our friends get killed by Aizen or Yhwach, or Yamamoto).

Or betray our dumb but lovable Zanpaktou (which could make him as bitter as canon Zangetsu was, and attempt to take control of us. ...Which ultimately gets us killed by Yamamoto).

REALLY doesn't seem all that entitled to me.
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>>26464067
Didn't we do that. I mean wasn't Ichigo's dutchy speech boil down to lets not do this right now and your kind insane Zangetsus.
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>>26464112
Just because you can see the future doesn't mean you can change it.
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>>26464132
What the fuck does that mean in this context.

We should shut up and accept our demise at the hands of Old Man Genocide?
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>>26464116
Yes, but the issue was the tone.

The tone probably should have been "I'm putting the decision off for now, because I've got a way better idea that doesn't involve potentially killing anyone or shooting myself in the knee, so just trust me and wait."

But the tone came off as "Shut up, I do what I want."

Not entirely Cos' fault, considering the general tone of the thread was pretty much 100% full-on civil war status by that point.
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>>26464152
Or it could just have been
"I'm fifteen years old and I've been at this for a month. I really don't think it's unreasonable to want to make an informed decision."

But apparently?

It was.
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>>26464149
Not really but it does mean we should exept that the possibility of defeat actually exists instead of pretending that there is some prefect answer that will save everyone.
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>>26464191
Was that what we were doing?

I didn't think that was what we were doing.

I thought it was just looking for an answer that wouldn't fuck us over almost immediately, and stands a good chance of fucking our friends over as well.
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>>26464041
The problem with limiters is who are we going to get them from, considering 100% of scientists in Bleach are also assholes.

And we'd have to get all them limiters equipped without Old Man Genocide finding out, because just because we don't normally use our truly obscene amount of power doesn't mean that we can't whenever we want.

And I don't think Yamamoto looks kindly on that.
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Guys the pastebin has a stat
>Control- You are currently at 1000 out of 2000 for Rank 3 of Control. You’re no longer out of control, keep your badge!
i think if we max level this we will be able to control our full spiritual pressure.
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>>26464095

Writing how this could've gone in green text format.
>Ichigo is obviously getting his ass handed to him by the Old Man. The Old Man looks sorrowfully at Ichigo, and raises up his blade as if to finish him off. But just as he's moving in for the killing blow--
>:Insert sound of anime sword catching here:
>The blade is stopped by two index fingers and two middle fingers, one on each side of the blade.
>The man who stopped the blade appears to be wearing a captain's uniform, and looks unsettlingly familiar somehow...and then he speaks...
>"Ichigo Kurosaki, I presume? You really ought to have better control over your Zanpaktou."
>He then turns his head around, revealing a seemingly friendly face smiling, wearing glasses. It then becomes clear to you who this man is. Such is your shock that you cannot help but call his name---
>"AIZEN SOUSAKE?!"
>"Oh? Am I really that famous that people know my name just from seeing me? But really, we should talk after I've helped clean up your mess."
>You swear you can see a brief of superiority grin on his face, but it quickly fades into a friendly smile as he turns back towards the old man.

And seeing as he more or less "rescued" us, it'd make things a lot more complicated, such as convincing everyone he's a dick, when he clearly risked his neck to save ours.

And that's pretty much my worst case scenario.
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>>26464268
Urahara, duh. Remember, he's better than Mayuri or Aizen at science shit hands-down, and he doesn't report to anyone but himself.

Like I said, the only snag is Zangetsu getting mad that he has to wait a while before we give OMZ the boot, but given the alternatives I think his complaints are null. He's still getting what he wants, so if he can't wait a week or so then he's just being a baby.
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>>26464298
such is the power of hindsight
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dont forget to archive
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>>26464041
This is basically what was voted for originally right?
"Just wait to see if we can do something different, like getting a limiter like Kenpachi."
Then why did it come off as "lel Zangetsu I do wat I want status quo m8" ?
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Honestly? I think this whole thing started when people extrapolted that getting rid of OMZ would eqaute to nuking ss and killing our friends. How poeple got to that point I don't know since cannon Kiego, Tatsuki, and Muizuiro were capable of surviving in Aizen's prescence.

Plus while it may have been a big boost I doubt SS would have been destroyed as we are quite a bit weaker than cannon Ichigo. Plus we haven't been stabbed with a sword containing some spiritual energy from everyone in SS. So I think we should have picked Zangetsu. We can always learn to control our power and until then we can always visit using one of Urahara's special gigais. Heck we could have used one to ask Urahara about the limiter.
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>>26464630
Because someone asked to try and uphold the status quo and no one objected.

Because the idea with the least objections and some support is what Cos chooses, when dealing with the finer points of tone.
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>>26464632
Because people like to ass-pull? People love taking shit too far? People are far an away too fucking paranoid?
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well, now that I've shot enough grineer to fill a freighter, I'm going to just remind you all that even if Cosgrove places Bleach Quest on hiatus, I can still take requests at the email in this post.

Here's hoping we can make this work, guys.
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>>26464673
>Honestly? I think this whole thing started when people extrapolted that getting rid of OMZ would eqaute to nuking ss and killing our friends. How poeple got to that point I don't know since cannon Kiego, Tatsuki, and Muizuiro were capable of surviving in Aizen's prescence.
>>26464673
Meant to quote that part.
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>>26464632
If you're right, Ichigo didn't know this anyway. He's seen the destruction captains create while releasing power and he's currently around the same level with more reiryoku.
I think he'd assume that unleashing all the power sealed up would be quite a bit higher than a captains and doing that would probably destroy many people in the vicinity, possibly including his friends. He wouldn't even have a chance to try to pull his power back with the level 3 control he has and no limiters.
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>>26464677
that....wasn't the picture I intended to post.

This was.
Oh well. Cute Apacci works, too.
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>>26464673
Maybe because we didn't want to give up the earth just yet and IC we knew we didn't know about shit like the limiters for anyone in fact the only guy we know like that hypothetical us is someone who snapped his soul in half for friends.That and Ichigo was more powerful then Aizen and his presence was starting to grind our friends down.
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>>26464632
maybe because of this?
>>26461224
>your very presence might annihilate anything that isn’t strong enough that approaches you from the sheer intensity
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>>26464750
might=/=will
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>>26464777
We were told that the risk is there and you expect us to go against the characterization and risk making Ichigo kill his friends?
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>>26464802
and what makes you think that as soon as we kick OM out the entirety of SS will explode
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I personally vote to give power to OMZ.
It's Ichigo-like thing to do.
Also, first rule of shounen: potential never disappears/runs dry. with our luck, we'd probably end up with abeing that condensed from all the energy.
>proper zanpakuto spirit
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>>26464802
>your very presence might annihilate anything that isn’t strong enough that approaches you from the sheer intensity
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>>26464821
I think he misworded it when he said our potential would be lessened, I think our potential would take a different direction that may be more powerful in some aspects
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>>26464838
>reminder that Espada 1 Starrk is currently chilling with your support buddies
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>>26464847
>“We could sever a large majority of the power that is currently held back from you. In doing so, I would take some of it into myself and become something different. I would not remain as I am, nor would your hollow. However, neither one of us would be dominant over the other.”
>“But, you would remain at that level, whatever potential heights you might’ve reached permanently reduced.”
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>>26464861
>reminder that stark used to kill anyone that came close to him before he split himself in two, which is essentially option 2
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>>26464847
Another thing that's worth considering.

Even if our core power is lowered, does that mean it's impossible to raise it the normal way through hard work and shit?

Like does everyone start off with a preset chunk of power that they have to work to access more of, or is that just us?
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>>26464875
except he didnt know how to hold back, ever
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We seem to be in the clear for the moment. When we've got a bit of downtime, there are several steps we need to take.

>1: Talk to our friends about this situation.
Explain about our fuckhuge power and how we might not be able to return to the Real World if we unleash it all, but we still want to.

>2: Talk to Kenpachi about his eyepatch limiter thing.
We noticed how his reiatsu became MUCH bigger after taking it off, so it's IC knowledge that limiters of some kind exist, at least.

>3: Jinzen
Apologize to Zangetsu and tell him that accepting the Sealed King's power boost would've meant invalidating almost everything we have been fighting for. We would have accepted pretty much ANY other sacrifice to get Yhwach out of our head and let our partner go free... except for being unable to be with our friends anymore. Where would we go if our very presence started killing humans around us? Especially since we have no clue if Soul Society would even help us at this point, so Hueco Mundo is all that's left. And that isn't a very fun place to be.
We haven't given up on anything, we're just making sure we have something to stay afloat before we blow up a dam.
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>>26464882
Yeah, but OMZ is presumably familiar with the concept of holding back, given he's not an idiot.

If that was an option, don't you think he would have said so?
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>>26464863
>we achieved FGT with him slowing us down
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>>26464882
That's why i suggest Maxing out our control stat then getting rid of the old man.
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>>26464877
>Like does everyone start off with a preset chunk of power that they have to work to access more of, or is that just us?
Thats what im thinking, Canon ichigo uses NOTHING but shunpo and WHACK WHACK WHACK, Our kido would be lowered in power slightly because of the lost power but still would be more powerful that almost everyones

>you are now imagining a kenpachi that can use kido
how horrifying
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>>26464896
...Yeah that's a good point.

But that was clearly the shinigami equivalent of the Sanrei Glove and Letz Stil.

No fucking idea why such a thing would even exist, but if our dad had it...
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>>26464722
We wouldn't be giving earth up. We know OOC and IC about Urahara's special gigais that bind spirit energy. He gave some to the arrancar. Asfor the limiter I think Ichigo could but two and two together from his fight Kenpachi. Ichigo has deductive reasoning just like we do. As for the last part cannon Ichigo is morepowerful than Aizen at this point. Do remember that Ichigo didn't really kill Aizen. Plus our friends are a heck of a lot stronger than their cannon counterparts.
>>26464690
No offense but what destruction? All Toshiro did was make it snow. Kenpachi didn't really cause mass destruction and we cut him off mid pwer up sequence. So saying we are at Captain level without the mask is a stretch. Even with the mask Toshiro push oyr shit in with his time limit bankai. We haven't faced a true bankai yet, or even a halfway competent Kid user. We may, may have the power/reiryoku of a captain but we are not captain level.
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>>26464912
Probably only a secret thats told to heads of families and captains who ask
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>>26464920
Dude.

OMZ knows everything we know.

That means he knows about Urahra's gigai and his bracelet and Kenpachi's eyepatch.

Presumably, we'd be too strong even if we wore them all at once, else he'd have said something because not doing so would be bullshit.

And the Hougyoku granted Aizen permanent immortality dumbass.
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>>26464937
No one botherd to ask either. He could have not been thinking about or even been resting/thinking about other shit at the time.
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I kind of see option three as being analogous to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4htPASldqOM

Only instead of losing everything, we'd "lower" ourselves to a mere Elder Captain.

Still, the core message of "Who needs [overwhelming borderline-infinite spiritual power] when I've got them?" still holds true.

...Though admittedly Ed got to wait until the final boss was dead before making that decision.
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>>26464983
To me, that's still not a good solution.

Like either someone else will have control of the limiter, in which case there's not much point, or all we have to do is remove a bracelet and we can just instantly pretty much everyone except those about as hax as we are.
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>>26464983
Or he could be, y'know, lying. Because I still don't entirely believe he has our best interests at heart here.
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>>26465020
Eh, if he wanted to kill us, we'd be dead.

He let Orihime heal us, and gave us time to use High-Speed Regeneration.
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>>26465015
>all we have to do is remove a bracelet and we can just instantly pretty much everyone except those about as hax as we are
I fail to see the downside in this. Also, I trust Cosgrove to keep things interesting regardless.
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Was it cosgrove or someone else who archived?
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>>26465115
Someone else. We always do it.

...oh god... now I'm afraid to look.
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>>26465140
It's accurate enough, really.
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Oh my... Kurosaki, we really must stop meeting like this. It seems this time you let the voices in your head get the better of you (you should really get that looked at by a professional) and in the process you made god himself angry with you!

The problem is you're over-thinking things, which really isn't good for your rather severe multiple personality disorder. You have to remember that you're the protagonist! No matter what you choose, a way forward will open! That's just the basics of good storytelling in a format like this.

Whether you pick the safe choice or the risky one is up to you, but don't assume the sky is going to fall if you pick wrong or you'll never get anywhere.

Sure it may seem like the world is ending at the time, but how often have you felt like that in the past month? You should know by now that things are never as bad as you think they are.

Plus you've got the benefit of being in the Shounen genre, unlike poor Shirou, so you've got plenty of leeway to screw up. After all you actually CAN fix most problems by screaming loudly swinging your sword and believing in your friends, no matter how improbable, impossible, or outright absurd it may seem.

Now please, next time you come here make sure its under happier circumstances. Like violent fatal dismemberment, failing to stop the apocalypse, being blown to bits by an energy blast, committing suicide after you lose everyone you know and love, or being turned into a magically animated head-in-a-jar by your evil magical little sister!

Later!
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So, Now that this thread is over what do we want to do next thread?
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GOOOOOOOOOOD MORNING! *reads*

Laters.

Good Taiga Dojo, see everyone again next thread.
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>>26465545
Get limited, not rekt.

Also we totally need to find Tobiume. Not leaving the SS without Momo's sword.

>>26465586
You got the drawings? I'm fairly certain most of them are there, with the exception of >>26464702, though I'll have to look again.
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>>26465615
Limiters a shit.

No, we just have to talk to anyone who is knowledgeable at all so we can have, you know, a second opinion. So we can make an informed decision.

General consensus seemed to be to get rid of OMZ, just later. Ichigo has no pressing reason or need to risk asploding people with his presence, which is a legitimate concern per OMZ's explanation.
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>>26464010
Just got here and felt like pointing out that "maiming our powers" was Ichigo's cannon solution. It's how Zangetsu was reforged, remember?
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>>26465718
Limiters let us work on control until we have it ALL under control, a bit at a time.
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>>26465778
This guy
This guy fucking gets it
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>>26465615
Ayup, thank you much, Gale!
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>>26465718
I agree with letting the Old Man die after a good bye, but how are we going to learn high level Quincy abilities?

Ishida probably doesn't have time to train us often and we don't know if our Quincy powers are the same like how our hollow abilities are leagues ahead of the Vizards.
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>>26465966
Training by ourselves and when all else fails

Ishida's dad
Though that would be our last resort
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>>26465994
>Ishida's dad
Ah, forgot about Ryuken. He'll probably dislike us more because we're a Shinigami too.
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>>26465966
Even though we're a half blood, we started out with abilities only found naturally in pure bloods, hell, Ishida has a higher % Quincy count then we do and he had to learn Blut from trial, error, and boxing. Even with OMZ gone, we can use limiters while we learn better control.

When we want to learn more Quincy stuff, we do so with Ishida's or even Ryuken's help once we meet him back on earth when we've got our shit straightened out.

That is assuming, of course, that we don't ultimately go splitting our power or getting the chance to have a real Zanpakuto.

Also, I need to say this again; knowing Oetsu now exists, from a personal perspective I see no reason why he wouldn't drop down to see how this wack shit with his prized blades plays out, ya dig? Kirio tags along to see her former Lt/adopted daughter after not doing so for over a century since she is finally back in SS. Hiyori's reaction would of course be priceless.

>"Who the fuck?!"
>"Such language! Oh but look how you've grown! You're finally on your way toward becoming a woman! It is criminal how much time I've missed!
>"K...ki...Kirio Taicho!!!"
>smiles in response
>"What the hell!? You got fat! Is that what you've been doing all this time in the Royal Guard?! I thought you were doing important work!"
>...sunken eye twitch/cheek jiggle

I say this as an amused fan of both Kirio design models, though I am of the frank opinion her pretty face should still be a bit clearer in her plus sized form.
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>>26465543
Based Taiga.
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>>26465543
Fujimura-sensei, to be fair, Shirou REAAAAAALLY deserved it when I made him a head-in-a-jar. I wish you would top bringing it up. I mean he was still alive after all, and most people... well, some people... err, at least a small but not inconsiderable minority of people would prefer a life of constant agony over being dead. So really, I was doing him a favor.

But moving on.

Cosgrove, as an extra-special bonus, I've got a piece of advice just for you, since I'm not confident that idiot Strawberry is going to be able to dig himself out of his hole this time. Be thankful, because its not every day that God himself receives a feebie.

Anyway, to put it bluntly, your players are terrified of you. Its not that they don't trust you, on the contrary they have complete faith in you. Its just that the kind of faith you've gone out of your way to foster is the "oh please God, do not smite me for my sins" kind, not the kind where they trust God to be looking out for their best interests.

They become paralyzed by inaction because they're never quite sure how close the edge of damnation is, which leads them to assume "very close" at all times. Now of course this makes big pivotal decisions a nightmare, because everyone assumes the worst and reads way too far into it.

So remember, its ok to tell your puny mortal worshipers to chill out once in a while when their crazy ideas are getting completely off base and clogging everything up, or to give them a reassuring pat on the back to let them know that everything isn't as horrible as their imaginations have made it out to be.

Now I have it on good authority that you play golf every Sunday with that shifty priest Kotomine, but you should really stop taking so much of his advice to heart, got it?
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>>26465543
>>26466504
>Bleach Quest 40: In which Taiga and Ilya are the heroes we need and deserve
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>>26466625
We try.

My only regret is that I went to bed like ten minutes before his twitter post, otherwise I may have stayed up late to help avert this disaster.

But writing another Dojo was fun too I guess.
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>>26466625

Man, no thread ever deserves Batman as the hero.
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>Wake up
>Read
>Cosgrove lashes out at all the bullshit
Taking a break is a good call... maybe the readership will dwindle a little too so we're all less divided... until next time; thanks.
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>>26466662
That is why I have my twitter set up to text my phone with a ringtone distinct and long enough to alert/wake me whenever he posts to it. It has proven useful. Granted, I still turn my phone to vibrate now on nights I cannot, but I lucked out and woke up around 1:30 is and jumped in before ...happenings
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>>26464298
Well that would have been interesting. Hopefully Cosgrove, much like Zangetsu can cool down on his much deserved vacation.
These latchkey choices though... they're reall quest killers sometimes. We'll push through though. We will endure.
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>>26464310
Ya somehow I'd suspect an Urahara limiter to probably maybe kill us in the process. Intentionally.
Just remember the last conversation we had with him; only instead of just acting only out of fear, it would be a mercy killing in his eyes.
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>>26466763
>verge of war with hueco mundo
>kills soul societies trump card
Nigga u dum
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>>26465543
>next time you come here make sure its under happier circumstances. Like violent fatal dismemberment, failing to stop the apocalypse, being blown to bits by an energy blast, committing suicide after you lose everyone you know and love, or being turned into a magically animated head-in-a-jar by your evil magical little sister!

But Taiga, none of those things are happy. You're not making any sense!


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