>>27229977

I hereby claim this thread in the name of me.

I've had a crazy idea. Just... just hear me out. How about... we spend some time... getting to know the other guys in our squad. Crazy, I know. Runaround needs some talking to, Edwin needs some character development, we need to talk to Simo and Bragg...
But who am I kidding.

>>27230130

You dare suggest we actually spend time away from our waifus?!

It's about fucking time

WHOOOOOO VMQ

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>>27229977
Is our ride going to be shot down by someone?

Like say Tatiana Wisla and her wingwoman?

>>27229977

Jaeger pls.

I know Karla was your fiancee and all, but really, the giant blimp where you made up and broke off with her at the big finale of VMQ1?

Where did you even get the funds? A really loud bird with no sense of volume?

>>27230168
We've got four girls after us. Both Sturmfuhrer twins (possibly), Lucina, and Morgan.

We need some friends of our own gender.

>>27230198
What're you implying? That I funded the construction of the Volume Control?

>>27230130
I fully agree. I don't think Runaround has ever had a solo convo with Lucus YET

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>>27229977
CODEX ENTRY UNLOCKED

GNS Kestrel Megafloat-Class Mobile Airfield

While the Demons had enjoyed much success in using Gallian engineered weapons and equipment, there has always been a traditional limitation that hampered their efforts to act as an international mercenary company. Since the Gallian military was always intended to be a defensive army, logistics were never a priority because it was assumed Gallians would always be fighting on home territory. It was at this point the Demons realized the necessity in adopting foreign equipment, or even just creating their own in order to make up for the gap in capability.

It was during one of these times where Jager complained offhand how he wished they had a "mobile airfield" of some sort. While accounts vary, Qyburn overheard this remark and allegedly cackled quite madly.

The resulting Megafloat-Class Mobile Airfield is Qyburn's magnum opus. Using the salvaged remains of the Hresvelgr and Excalibur, the production facilities of the once defunct Hydrian Mountain facility in Belka, and six years of development, Qyburn finally achieved what was thought to be impossible. A flying aircraft carrier, that put the seabound ones developed by Emmeria and the Federation to shame.

The secret behind the Kestrel's operation is the "Ragnite Reactor", a revolutionary new power source that Qyburn developed. However, knowledge on how this device was created or even works remains highly secret. The only known fact was that it runs off very rare and pure forms of ragnite, and that even a pebble of it could power the ship for decades.

The ship itself is literally a floating city, able to carry several squadrons of aircraft as well as a small army for ground operations.

However, having only recently been finished, the Kestrel and the Megafloat-Class as a whole remains untested. How it would perform in battle is anybody's guess...

>>27230253

I was actually agreeing with you there, the waifuing is really getting on my nerves.

Besides, I just watched Valvrave and am incredibly disappointed in Edwin.

>>27230253

And the Lion of Gallia. And our totally sweet ride.

Not by choice.

>>27230276
NEAT!
Just like Last Exile with all those awesome huge airships launching vanships

>>27229977
No Herbert, Vice, Nancy or that dude the red moehawk, this picture lacks.

>>27230276
>While accounts vary, Qyburn overheard this remark and allegedly cackled quite madly.
Oh, Qyburn.

>>27230130

Honestly while I waifu the twins quite a bit I agree. I kind of want to get to know edwin better. He is great for our guy here and could make a fun friend.

>>27230481
Agreed. We need a bro.

>>27230481

Eh, I'm leaning towards Simo, at least he has good reasons for being a bit of an ass.

That said, if we manage to turn Edwin into L-elf then this quest wins forever.

>>27230481
He just needs to relax. Perhaps we'll discover he has a secret nerdish love for "DR MARVEL, ADVENTURER OF SCIENCE". You know those old 30's adventure serials that used to be so popular back in the day?

Rolled 17 + 4

>>27230481
I want Simo, we're kind of screwing him over since we're trying to Waifu Morgan (though honestly I like the Twins and Lucina a lot more) so I want to be bros with him if we can repair our relationship with him.

Not sure about Edwin, too uptight

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>>27230276
Your farewell to the Academy and Castle Sturmfuhrer was quite an emotional one. Everybody's parents were present to see them off, including yours. Mom couldn't stop crying and Dad just gave you the proudest grin. Tarin gave her daughter the barest, nonverbal grin while Ramirez locked her in a tight bearhug. You could almost swear you could see the hardened veteran crying his eyes out, though he'd never admit it. Jager and Sam were there too, though there were hijinks involved as Charlotte and Falynn swapped uniforms in order to utterly confuse their father, much to their amusement. Even Alek and Elsa showed up to bid their farewells to Simo and Morgan.

Heck, even Nemo showed up, since she was apparently tagging along to keep track of the Falcon's development. She had a brief but heartfelt meeting with Qyburn himself, now positively ancient and wheelchair bound. The old cooky scientist handed her a thick journal almost as old as he was and nodded before allowing himself to be pushed away.

And just like that, you were all on your way to a land you've never even heard of, let alone seen.
(cont)

>>27230591

You still never got quite used to the feeling of flying. It was just the way the planes moved and tumbled in the air that always gave you this mild, uneasy feeling that the craft was suddenly going to drop out of the air at any given moment. It didn't help that the crew and pilots just LOVED talking about well known aerial disasters just to mess with the ground pounders.

However, there were small mercies. The Kestrel itself was large enough that it wouldn't be buffeted and rocked by high winds or turbulence. In fact, riding the Kestrel felt far more comfortable than any ship you've been on. Unfortunately, the Kestrel wasn't particularly fast, and while a Skyranger could cross the Atlantic in under a day, the Kestrel would require almost four or five.

Well, this was a new ship, and that meant new people to meet! Or, you could always just track down any other Wraiths and hang out with them...

>Let's talk to some Wraiths! [specify]
>Explore the hangar.
>Explore the lab.
>Explore the bridge.
>Other

>>27230610
>Let's talk to some Wraiths! [specify]
Runaround. Let's finally talk to him.

>>27230610
> Let's talk to some Wraiths! Edwin!

we might hear something regarding his mom and this particular bird we're on

>>27230610
>>Let's talk to some Wraiths! [specify]
Edwin, perhaps

>>27230610
>Explore the bridge.

>>27230610
>Let's talk to some Wraiths! [Simo]

Dammit, I want to hang out with Alek's son.

>>27230610
>Let's talk to some Wraiths! [specify]
Edwin. We need a bro.

>>27230610
>Let's talk to some Wraiths! [Simo]

>>27230610
>Let's talk to some Wraiths! [specify]
Runaround. Poor dude needs attention.

>>27230610
>Let's talk to some Wraiths! [specify]

Simo, I doubt we're going to get anywhere productive with Edwin.

Rolled 12 + 4

>>27230610
>Let's Talk with Simo

We have a lot to talk about

>>27230610
>>Let's talk to some Wraiths! [Simo]

>all these votes for talking with the other dudes
Holy shit my mad plan worked.

>>27230610
> Let's talk to some Wraiths!
Edwin.

>>27230610
>Let's talk to some Wraiths! [Simo]

>>27230577
To be honest, I've been having thoughts about setting him up with Sparky somehow.

It'll be fucking hilarious.

>>27230610
>Let's talk to some Wraiths!

Fuck you guys, I vote for Bragg. Gunners4lyfe

>>27230610
>Let's talk to some Wraiths! [specify]

Runaround

>>27230712
Believe it or not VMQ actually cares about teambuilding.

>>27230712
We suffer from an affluence of estrogen. We need manly testosterone!

>>27230610
>Let's talk to some Wraiths! [specify]

Simo.

>>27230712

The waifuing has been killing my brain.

Rolled 2 + 4

>>27230738
Edwin must get Mary-kate no negotiations!

>>27230610
>Let's talk to some Wraiths! [Simo]

>>27230768
... I'm not sure about that. Isn't Mary Kate more inclined to the womanly persuasion?....

Not that there's any problem with that.

>>27230768
I like this idea!

>I only care about useful people!
>Falls for the worst (initially) female soldier in the squad.

>>27230577

Main reason I like Edwin is because he is uptight. He is like the opposite of our guy in all ways.

Which is really interesting and I always say the best friends are the ones you bitch with and no one knows why you are friends.

>>27230768

I speculate anyone with a penis isn't MKat's type.

>>27230768
Sorry, I'm batting for him being with Charlotte.

>>27230789
>>27230799

Huh. Kinda forgot about that. Though she did just say her type wasn't us.

Could be taken both ways. Definite leanings though.

Rolled 3 + 4

>>27230765
Well what have you expected when the female to male ration is like 3 to 1.

>>27230789
>>27230799
>>27230828
Just pointing out, she only said she wasn't into Lucas.

>>27230610
You decide to go track down Simo. You've got a good idea where he might be, considering he was pretty much the quintessential sniper. He's most likely be in the highest part of the ship, with the best view.

Sure enough, you find him sitting in the open air observation deck on the very top of the ship's main tower. He's just staring off at the distance, his eyes darting from one cloud to the next, as if he's subconsciously trying to judge their distance from him.

"Hey, Simo?" You announce yourself as you approach.

"Huh? Oh, hey Lucas." Simo sighs. Well, he doesn't seem annoyed and angry any more, which is a plus. But he's still clearly troubled.

>What do you want to talk about?

>>27230808

>2013 year of our lord.
>Not wanting to get with Jager's kids.
>Not wanting to see Father in law Jager giving us the evil eye.

>>27230936

I was expecting waifuing to be sure, however, leading on 3 girls leaves a very bad taste in my mouth.

>>27231008

Oh fucking please, we already have Falynn crushing on us, and threesomes are not a thing here.

>>27230994

Thinking we should talk about how he has been feeling? Since all the chaos of last time we wouldn't want him to get stressed out.

>>27230994
Feel like we owe him an apology

>>27231010

i say influences of msq which is also running atm

>>27230994

just sit beside and wait till he talks. guess we dont have whisky for MANLY PICKNICK

>>27230994
"Something troubling you?"

>>27230994
"What's wrong?"

>>27231027
....I feel like we have the wrong twin but whatever.

Also considering it wasn't exactly his fault for leading them on since 2/3 were childhood friends so treating them nicely was natural for him.

So it should't be too blamed on him, entirely

>>27231027
>>27231027
>Raw Raw Fight The Power

Though yeah I can see it now. Thing is I like Charlotte more then her sister. Even though both is great.

Anyway enough waifu talking for me. It's a little too early for me to make up my mind and too early in the story to really tell.

>>27230994
>Just pointing out, she only said she wasn't into Lucas.

Hmmm, Bragg?

>>27230994
Ask if Morgan's alright.

>>27231083

No I don't, I blame that on the players since they knew EXACTLY what would happen during the infirmary sequence.

>>27230994
>So, why exactly did you want Morgan to keep her gender secret?

Also c'mon, Merc. Don't ruin it. We almost had a girl free from the pairings nightmare.

>>27231111
True, I really like the speech though, but I felt that we should have gone for. "Of course, we're best friends afterall" since it seems more natural.

>>27231127
Agreed. Simo's known her a LOT longer than we have. Plus, he's probably a bit sweet on her already.
>>27231145
'Twas a fine speech.

>>27231038
This.

>>27231071
>>27231082

Let's say these are both votes for asking him what's wrong. I second these.

Merc can't post without any consensus, and right now there are only two votes for apologizing for nothing I guess.

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>>27231145
>>27231189

I try. Thanks.

>>27231145
The speech was fine, however I'm pretty bitter about what we did at the Infirmary. And the whole waifuing in general too.

Did no one think what happened to Heloise last quest?

>>27231304

This
>>27231033

Also kind of counts for asking that.

>>27231348
>however I'm pretty bitter about what we did at the Infirmary

Why?

>>27231348

Stuff like that happens all the time in real life. So I don't really think much over it.

To me it is far to early on to really make any decisions on this anyway.

>>27231348
the waifuing was mild until the end in which I felt the last choice felt a bit forced

>>27230994
"Hey, is something wrong?" You ask, deciding to try and figure out what was troubling him.

"Oh, well... it's just the whole Morgan thing." Simo sighs. "I was keeping the secret for what, six years? Maybe more? So long I've completely forgotten. Then, one day, she just comes up to me and says she doesn't want to do it any more." Simo sighs. "You spend your life trying to keep a secret, to uphold a lie, an then all of a sudden you're just expected to stop it? That's just... rough."

>Yeah, it does sound rough. An idea why she changed her mind?
>Actually, I need to admit something to you...
>Other

>>27231379
Because now we're leading on 3 fucking girls, and we have to break the hearts of two of them?

Jesus Christ, do you idiots think before reverting immediately to your dicks?

>>27231398
>Actually, I need to admit something to you...

Well, we owe Simo this at least.

And our honor isn't banking on this because the secret is out.

>>27231398
>Actually, I need to admit something to you...

Best to confess now, I suppose.

>>27231412

No i find it amusing and thats all i need to make my choice. Like how others like channeling Natsuru

>>27231398
>Actually, I need to admit something to you...
We owe him this...i think that we've caused him a lot of grief

>>27231398
>Actually, I need to admit something to you.

Screw ellipses. We're being blunt and taking the punch like a man.

>>27231398

>Actually, I need to admit something to you...

He might get mad, but there's not really a reason to hide it anymore.

>>27231398
>>Actually, I need to admit something to you...

>>27231398
>>Actually, I need to admit something to you...
Exact your punishment

>>27231398
>Actually, I need to admit something to you...
Brace for impact.

>>27231398
>Actually, I need to admit something to you...

>>27231398
>Other
"Pretty sure she likes you, man. As in, likes you, likes you."

>>27231398

>Other

"Morgan made her choice. She couldn't possibly live her life out as a lie, it would have come out eventually, you must have know that.

Unless you didn't want it to?"

Pointed poking questions.

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>>27231457

Man, I guess my first impression of you is right.

>>27231511
Changing my vote to this.

>>27231412

>Three girls fall in love one one guy.
>Innocent main.

This can only end in heartbreak.

>>27231511

[x] Dohoho. Do it.

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>>27231524

Not the dick part, definitely.

>>27231398
>>Actually, I need to admit something to you...

>>27231398
>Actually, I need to admit something to you...

>>27231412
Well, in theory we could pawn Morgan off onto Simo. She did admit to liking him. That does still leave the problem of Lucina and Falynn, though.

>>27231398


>>27231511
Do this.

>>27231398
>>Actually, I need to admit something to you...

>>27231581
We will probably just drag Char into the mix to make it up.

>>27231605
I'm hoping Lucas ends up forever alone. He'll be the Knight that his father chose not to be!

Or something... Actually, never mind, that sounds way too cruel

>>27231581

But thats all three girls. Who would you stuff lucas with?

Personally undecided between Falynn and Morgan.

>>27231605

Sweet Jesus no.

>>27231629
Between Lucina and Char, Kind of like Faylnn but the reason we kind of triggered her liking us was because due to the character development of the previous thread and sympathy to some degree.

If we had done something like that to Char or even Sparky it might have gotten the same response

>>27231629
Fire Emblem Awakening Morgan would be insta-pick for me. Tied between Lucina and Morgan myself.

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>>27231656

;_; damn it /tg/ why you always trigger flag for worst sister?

>>27231668

Wasn't that the point? Some anons keep going on about letting the girls shine through character development before choosing and all that.

>>27231705
but falynn is moe

curious to see how she changes and improves might give her sister a run for her money

>>27231690
Fire Emblem? This ain't no Fire Emblem, boy. You're in VMQ now.`

>>27231398
"Actually, I need to admit something to you." You take a deep breath. "I actually knew about Morgan being a girl."

"Goddamnit. I fucking knew it. Normally, I'd kick your ass for lying to me like that, but I'm not exactly the paragon of truth and justice either, so I'll let it slide." Simo sighs and shakes his head. "How long did you know?"

"Near the beginning of the year." You say.

"Motherfucker. I thought you were supposed to be a terrible liar, Lucas."

"Not when my integrity is on the line." You respond resolutely. "I made a promise to Morgan not to tell anybody, including you."

"Figures."

"I understand you didn't like the whole gender secrecy thing?" You ask.

"Of course not. I thought it was a dumb idea, since it'd just put even more pressure on her. Morgan's already got enough to worry about, you know?"

"Oh yeah, a lot." You nod. "But, I've noticed she seems a lot happier now."

"Well, yeah, she can finally let her hair down, in multiple senses of the word."

>Ask who came up with such a dumb idea.
>Try to pry for more about Morgan's past.
>Inquire about his relationship with Morgan.
>Other

>>27231712

Yeah. This. Honestly my first thought was char but I really don't care as long as the story is good.That's all that matters to me.

>>27231629
I wouldn't stuff Lucas with anyone right now. I'd like to just be bros with Sparky and Mary-Kate and wait for some more characters to be introduced.

>>27231735
>Ask who came up with such a dumb idea.

>>27231735
>Inquire about his relationship with Morgan.
"You know, uh, she likes you."

>>27231735
>Inquire about his relationship with Morgan.

>Ask who came up with such a dumb idea.

>>27231705

Because this waifuing shit has gone far enough already.

>>27231735
>Ask WHY they came up with such a dumb idea.

>>27231735
>Ask who came up with such a dumb idea.

AND WHY?

>>27231735

>>Ask who came up with such a dumb idea.

>>Inquire about his relationship with Morgan.

Jaeger.

I fucking bet its Jaeger.

>>27231735
>Ask who came up with such a dumb idea.

>>27231735
>Ask who came up with such a dumb idea.

>>27231784
>Jaeger.

It all makes sense now.

>>27231735

>Ask who came up with such a dumb idea.

>>27231784
Sounds like something he'd do.

>>27231735
>>Ask who came up with such a dumb idea.

>>27231735
>Inquire about his relationship with Morgan.

I'm curious to see if we can get the number of girls following Lucas down to two.

>>27231762

Caring about waifuing. Honestly I can never figure that out. As long as the story is decent I could care less what the guys here talk about. From fine wine to Hentai to the best season for hunting.

>Ask who came up with such a dumb idea.

>>27231735
>Ask who came up with such a dumb idea.

If it's Jager, I want to punch him in the face next time we see him.

I see this as being a repeat of sorts of VMQ1: 3 girl stale mate until one of them breaks it.

>>27231867

There was a stalemate what

You sure we were reading the same quest?

>>27231843

Because the waifuing also happens to affect the story, and breaks the hearts of characters I get emotionally invested in.

>>27231867

Tarin barely showed and interest at all and Karla was missing for most of the story.

How exactly was this a stalemate?

Merc is going for the full VC 2 experience isn't he?

>>27231735
>Ask who came up with such a dumb idea.

>>27231882

That would happen naturally though given how things are so far. I think the key thing is Lucas taking his mothers advice on this one.

>>27231902

It was fairly close early on to Lucas mom being a possible one. Tarin was also in the running and Karla was leading for a good while.

Sam was basically the slow horse in a horse race only she started getting a lot of momentum as she developed. Until the end where she won.

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>>27231882

Whats a good story without a healthy dose of drama.

A good story is one where characters you're emotionally invested in don't die or suffer bad things happening to them?

I'm afraid anon, that your tastes are suspect.

sorry I am late I was having a crap night on war thunder

>>27231867

Actually it was really the dice that decided it. Merc did a good job of using natural failures and successes to develop a romance that seemed natural, basically it came down to Same being the most obvious IC pick.

That's what I'm praying for innVMQ2 instead of whoever waifus and samefags hardest. I'm pretty optimistic because that nat failure and getting plastered is a good example of what I'm talking about. Let it happen with the rolls, don't just flirt with everyone.

>>27231982
Or you know, players deliberately encouraging it like they did with Falynn.

>>27232012
I'd be a lot more appreciative of it wasn't caused though the players' stupidity.

>>27232046

>Same

Haha, man, I mean Sam.

>>27232047

Stupidity?

Oh no anon. I'm pretty sure we did it knowing exactly what would happen.

For the Greater Story.

>>27231735
"Honestly, who came up with a dumb idea like that?" You ask.

Simo laughs. "Oh man, it's great to hear somebody else think the whole scheme was stupid. I actually don't know where exactly the idea came from, but I have a strong suspicion it was from Elizabeth. I mean, she's a good spy and I'm sure she had good intentions, but I think she sort of forgot the person in question was a kid who didn't even hit puberty yet."

"Well, I guess even the best make mistakes." You nod.

"Like you wouldn't believe." Simo nods.

Well, at least the both of you found some common ground, and at least got rid of that gulf that had previously existed between the both of you. You feel that the conversation has run its course, but then again, there's always more things you could try and glean...

>Try to pry into Morgan's past.
>Ask him how he feels about Morgan.
>Let's go do something else. [specify]
>Other

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>>27232047
So you would be perfectly fine if all the girls just fell for lucas due to unrevealed stuff like him trying to jump over a high jump repeatedly as a kid? As long as it wasn't the players choice?

>>27232143
>Let's go do something else. [specify]
Talk to Lucina

>>27232143
>>Ask him how he feels about Morgan.

>>27232143

>>Let's go do something else. [specify]
Find Nemo

I think we owe the scientist an apology for wrecking her stuff.

>>27232143
>>Let's go do something else. [specify]
Talk to Nemo

>>27232143
>>Ask him how he feels about Morgan.

>>27232143
>Let's go do something else.
Runaround!

>>27232084
Suuuuure.

>>27232161
No, what I'm saying that I'm sick of anon's mentality that we must pick up every single goddamn girl we see. Pretty much all the people we associated of our own choice before this were female, though the high female to male ratio did influence this.

>>27232143
>>Let's go do something else. [nemo pls]

>>27232084

Get a better argument.

>>27232143
>Let's go do something else. [specify]
Nemo then.

We still have to apologise for wrecking her ride.

I can't ride with you guys anymore but I'm keeping up in the archives glad to see this going again.

>>27232143
>Ask him how he feels about Morgan.

>>27232143
>Let's go do something else. [Nemo]

>>27232217

To be fair, edwin was a dick and Roundabout didn't figure into many of the stories we were in. Hell look at the WKC, everyone we were with was female.

The other chance we had to follow the guys out? Bringing morgan on a bar crawl when she didn't want to didn't sit well with me and you don't just let her run about by herself.

>>27232143
>Let's go do something else. [Nemo]

We're due in for a talk with our personal mad scientist anyway.

>>27232143
>>Let's go do something else. [specify]
Neeeeemo.

>>27232267

True, that said, we did go rather agressively for the girls we were interested in, aka Lucina, Twins and Morgan.

I am seriously sick of that, let any relationship develop on its own pace.

>>27232143
>>Let's go do something else. [Nemo]

>>27232314

It kind of did. Since the personality of lucas is what we vote for.

Also we really should talk to edwin soon. I kind of like the guy even if he is a dick. Well because he is one.

>>27232143
>Go find and talk to Edwin.

More male bonding I say, more!

>>27232143
Go see Edwin

>>27232336
I'm having a hard time believing you guys were taking IC into mind as opposed to just thinking with your dicks. In any case, it's still just going to end up with broken hearts.

>>27232143
>Let's go do something else. [Edwin]

>>27232143
>>Let's go do something else. [specify]

It's time to befriend the shit out of Edwin

>>27232314

ICwise, with Lucina and the twins being childhood friends and the new revelation about morgan, it was a foregone choice.

Start of school, who do you look for, your best friend, your childhood friends or some strangers?

After we found morgan crying, with Lucas' character and the stuff he overheard at the end of the ex, it was very much in character to go after him (at that time) to see if he(at that time) was alright.

And if you actually note, we've never actually specifically chosen char. Shes always been shot down by other choices.

>>27232143
>Let's go do something else. [specify]
Can we please talk to Runaround now? We know almost everyone else.

>>27232143
>>Let's go do something else. [specify]

Find the mad scientist, nemo.

>>27232405
We've talked to edwin once... we haven't talked to Runaround at all

>>27232394
>ICwise, with Lucina and the twins being childhood friends and the new revelation about morgan, it was a foregone choice.
According to who? We've been just friends with them for 18 years, we could've easily gone just as we had before. And we barely knew anything about Morgan previously, even if my other points are invalid, we certainly didn't need to go for her.

>Start of school, who do you look for, your best friend, your childhood friends or some strangers?
Hanging out with friends and waifuing is pretty different.

>After we found morgan crying, with Lucas' character and the stuff he overheard at the end of the ex, it was very much in character to go after him (at that time) to see if he(at that time) was alright.
Of course it was, that's what friends do.

>And if you actually note, we've never actually specifically chosen char. Shes always been shot down by other choices.
Not for the lack of trying by her fans.

>>27232143
>Let's go do something else. [specify]
Talk to Runaround, or Char.

>>27232161
[Explain further intensifies]

>>27232143

>Try to pry into Morgan's past.

Level with me Simo. We're both on this handbasket that's headed for hell together I'd like to know what I'm on the basket for first.

>>27232143
>Ask him how he feels about Morgan.
or
>Let's go do something else. Befriend the shit out of Edwin

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>>27232143
"Yeah, well, I was just checking up on you. Gotta make sure our fearless team leader is doing okay." You say as you make your way back to the entry hatch.

"Hey, Lucas, for what's it worth, I'm sorry I was acting like an ass to you earlier." Simo says. "All that pressure having to keep a secret, you know?"

"Yeah, I understand." You nod.

You leave Simo to his devices on the observation deck as you reenter the ship. However, you sort of lose track of how many flights of stairs you're supposed to go down, and suddenly you realize you passed the level you were supposed to get off on and ended up on the lab level. Well, you haven't really said hi to Nemo yet, and you had to apologize for wrecking the Viper.

Unlike the Foundry, space was a premium on the Kestrel, so the lab section felt far more cramped as it was crammed full of experimental weapons and gadgets, not just for the troops but for the vehicles as well, primarily aircraft. You see Nemo working on a massive, aircraft mounted lance, though instead of a pointed tip, it tip of this lance was bulbous with some sort of camera embedded inside.

"Oh, Lucas, I didn't notice you coming in." Nemo blinks, her voice still sounding dull and tired. "What brings you here?"

>Ask about the Kestrel
>Ask about the lance.
>Apologize for the Viper.
>Other

>>27232689
>Apologize for the Viper.

>>27232689

>>Apologize for the Viper.

"You ok? You look and sound like you could do with a perk-me-up. Coffee?"

>>27232689
>>Apologize for the Viper.
>Ask about the Kestrel

>>27232689
>Apologize for the Viper.

"But if its any consolation we wrecked a heap of Pirate planes"

>>27232689
>Apologize for the Viper.

>>27232689
>Apologize for the Viper.
I didn't mean to break your toy

>>27232689
Also
>Dem Nemos

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>Couldn't figure out why the Demons exclusively used Aircraft based planes
>MWF this thread
Did not see that one coming.
>>27232689
>Ask about the lance.

>>27232770
>>Couldn't figure out why the Demons exclusively used Aircraft based planes

I'm sorry, could you try that again?

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>>27232770
>Couldn't figure out why the Demons exclusively used Aircraft based planes
wat

>>27232770
>>Couldn't figure out why the Demons exclusively used Aircraft based planes
...What.

>>27232802

I think he meant Naval planes, that took off and landed on carriers. Pretty sure the planes the Demon's use are based off US Navy planes.

>>27232770

THE SHOCK HAS OVERLOADED HIS GRASP OF ENGLISH

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>>27232689
"Hey Nemo, I'm uh, sorry about the Viper and all." You apologize, looking away in shame. "I know how you engineers can get kind of attached to the stuff you work on."

"Oh, well, that's nice." Nemo nods. "In the case of vehicles, I usually assign blame to the driver, though. What was his name, Runamok? Gave him a good wrench to the knee to show my appreciation."

You wince. Poor Runaround. "So, uh, how's the Viper doing?"

"She's doing fine." Nemo grins. "Had to rebuild almost the entire rear section. I assume you've been taking good care of your own weapon?"

"Oh, the M60?" You say.

"Yes, did you find any issues with it during combat?" Nemo brings out a copy of the M60 and sets it down on a nearby work table. "I'm trying to develop a new MG so we don't have to rely on Emmerian designs, so I need some input on how to improve on it."

>It could be a bit more accurate.
>It's a bit too heavy.
>I'd like it to have more stopping power.
>I want a faster rate of fire.
>Other

>>27232839
Yeah, this. All of the planes we've seen so far were designed to take off and land on carriers, and I think Gallia is landlocked, so I was confused.

>>27232878
>It could be a bit more accurate.
>I want a faster rate of fire.

>>27232878
>I'd like it to have more stopping power.

Shooting through walls is always useful.

>>27232878
>It could be a bit more accurate.
>I want a faster rate of fire.

>>27232878

>>I'd like it to have more stopping power.

>>27232878
>I want a faster rate of fire.
One can never have enough dakka.
>It could be a bit more accurate
Aiming is good too.

>>27232878
>It could be a bit more accurate.
>I'd like it to have more stopping power.

>It's a bit too heavy.
That's because you're a weakling Lucas.

>>27232802
>>27232813
>>27232816
I uh, meant to say "aircraft-carrier based planes." Kinda dropped an important word there didn't I.
>>27232878
>Other
Nah, it's great, I love it!

>>27232878

>I want a faster rate of fire
>It could be a bit more accurate
>I'd like it to have more stopping power

All three!

>>27232878
>It could be a bit more accurate.
>I'd like it to have more stopping power.

>>27232878
>>I'd like it to have more stopping power.

>>27232878
>>It could be a bit more accurate.
>>I want a faster rate of fire.

>>27232878
>>It could be a bit more accurate.
>>I'd like it to have more stopping power.

>>27232878

>>It's a bit too heavy.
>>I want a faster rate of fire.

Operational Research has shown that accuracy doesn't help in the rate of enemies killed but is more closely related to the number of bullets fired.

Higher firing rate = more bullets = potentially more dead enemies.

Lighter weight allows Lucas to carry more ammo to balance out the faster rate of ammo consumption.

>>27232878

Needs bigger boolet. Also can we attach a scope.

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>>27232878
>It's a bit too heavy.

Rolled 5 + 3

>>27232878
>It's a bit too heavy

Why do i see NemoxRoundabout...

She beats him up everytime he brings back busted vehicles.

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Guys, we're a Special Operations unit, not line fighters. Cutting down on weight is EXTREMELY important so we can do our job more effectively.
>>27233071
I can tell you why in one image.

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>>27232878
>All these multi answers!

"I don't know... can't you just make like.. everything better?"

Then you get a sort of annoyed glare from Nemo. It seems to be the sort of glare every engineer learns to make when someone starts asking too much of them.

"I can't make a gun do everything perfectly. It's not physically possible." Nemo pouts. "It's just the way things work. There's tradeoffs to design changes, you know. Higher rate of fire generally tends to make guns less accurate, and lighter weight usually means smaller caliber ammunition, and so on and so forth. Even Qyburn had to make compromises in his weapon designs."

"Oh, if you put it that way..." You frown.

>Choose one aspect you would like to see improved!
>Actually, the gun is good as it is.
>Other

>>27233102
>It could be a bit more accurate.

Be nice to be able to hit.

>>27233102
weight
need to hold moar ammo for moar dakka

>>27233102
>Choose one aspect you would like to see improved!
Lighter weight. We're an SF unit, not conventional infantry. We need mobility.

>>27233102

>All these tradeoffs

Eep

>Actually, the gun is good as it is.

>>27233102
Accuracy. If there's anything that we'll get fucked over, it'll probably be accuracy and hitting our mark.

Rolled 13 + 3

>>27233102
>Make the gun lighter

>>27232878
>>27233102

Accuracy is self explanatory

Weight would mean more to me if I ever noticed the effect it had/knew how much ammo we actually get to carry.

Does stopping power inflict multiple wounds?

Rate of fire could mean we hit more with one attack?

Basically what do these choices mean for the quest?

>>27233102
>>Actually, the gun is good as it is.

I think we're good then.

If we need accuracy we have scouts and snipers.

We need our rate of fire and the weight of the calibre. Don't want to reduce that even further.

M60 is perfect for our uses, then.

>>27233102
>Choose one aspect you would like to see improved!

Fuck it, more accuracy then.

>>27233116

But a the cost of a smaller calibre?

>>27233102
>Actually, the gun is good as it is.

Fuck this, it's fine as it is.

>>27233102
You know, I'm good with increasing accuracy.

>>27233102
>More accurate

>>27233102
>Choose one aspect you would like to see improved!

Accuracy, let's make our rounds count.

>>27233102
>Choose one aspect you would like to see improved!

Accuracy.

>>27233159
Works fine in real life. There's a reason nobody uses battle rifles as a primary armament anymore.

>>27233102
Let's go for accurate dakka! At the expense of rate of fire.

Conversely, more accuracy will reduce our rate of fire.

I think that runs counter to the job of a machine gunner. To lay down and suppress the enemy with dakka.

>>27233102

>Actually, the gun is good as it is.

But tell her if it can't be the best at everything it should be the most balanced. Over time they can make the gun gradually better in each aspect.

>>27233181

Not on machine guns, though.

>all these guys wanting to give up rate of fire in order to increase accuracy
We're not a sniper, we're not even a rifleman. Combine that with the fact that, if it's like the real-world M60, our ROF is already quite low for the weapon's class, and this will NOT end well.

>>27233102
>I want a faster rate of fire.
More dakka.

>>27233188

This I really don't want to increase Accuracy at the expense of fire rate. It's dumb, if you can't make our fast bullets more accurate than don't tamper with my MG.

>>27233181

Plenty of people still use GPMGs and HMGs. Hell, I know a military member who prefers the GPMG over the LMG.

>>27233209
Most modern military units use MGs chambered in the same intermediate cartridges as assault rifles, actually.

>>27233102

>>Actually, the gun is good as it is.

>>27233102
Can you, I dunno, make the gun more customizable? I mean, I might want a scope ON the thing. Who knows?

>>27233223
You have a point. Changing >>27233163 to increasing rate of fire.

>>27233238
>Hell, I know a military member who prefers the GPMG over the LMG.
What was his MOS?

>>27233240

yes but USSOCOM uses a 7.62 chambered version of the M249.

I'd take my cues from them.

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>>27233249
Botasky pls go

>>27233223
This is actually a good point. Changing >>27233170 to this

>>27233223
I'll change>>27233185
to this

>>27233289
>>27233301

Actually, what are you guys voting for?

The anon you're quoting is making a point, not offering a choice. He just says don't give up our rate of fire.

>>27233102
accuracy

>>27233272
>USSOCOM uses a 7.62 chambered version of the M249
The Mk. 48 Mod 0 only weighs 18 pounds empty, only one more pound than a regular M249.
The M60 weighs 23 pounds empty.

>>27233102
Sticking to my earlier post
>It's fine as is

>>27233102

Either keep it as is or increase ROF.

>>27233249

We will make due with the iron sights and bipod and WE WILL LIKE IT! What do you think, we can short-barrel this thing, add a holo sight with magnifier on top, and then add a flashlight/laser/front grip to the bottom?

>>27233102
Actually making it lighter usually means more recoil and less reliability, not a smaller caliber.

>>27233254

He's British, and I don't know him personally, only though a forum.

That said, I'll be happy to link you to the post in question.

>>27233331

Were we not comparing the guns chambered for different calibres after you made a point about LMGs using the smaller calibre?

Why are you comparing the Mk 48 with the M60, its obviously going to be an improvement. You're comparing different generations of weapons.

>>27233351
Kobra sight, foregrip, heavy barrel.

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>>27233351

>>27233369
My point is that they don't HAVE to choose "caliber or weight" because they get both.
I only posted the 60's weight for reference.

>>27233274

As much as I'd love to tacticool the shit out of the gun, I'm actually thinking ahead here.

What if we need to attach one of them Starlight scopes, or provide covering fire that only grenades propelled a good distance will do?

Having those picatinny rails would be a godsend for those times.

>>27233102
"Accuracy sounds good." You say.

"Hmmmm." Nemo looks down at the M60 and starts taking it apart, inspecting each and every little piece. "If that's the case, we'll have to make a tradeoff or two."

She starts pulling out some random parts lying around the room and comparing them with the disassembled M60 parts in front of her.

"If you want better accuracy, that means I have to cut the rate of fire or lengthen the barrel. The former will obviously decrease your ROF and the latter will increase the weight."

>Sacrifice weight of fire.
>Add more weight.
>Actually I'll keep it as is.
>Other

>>27233388

But we do.

Nemo specifically said that to save weight, that usually involves switching to a smaller calibre.

Until she says otherwise, thats all we have to work with.

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>>27233390
You don't need rails to launch grenades from an MG, anon.
Yes, this thing will fire rifle grenades.
Fuckin' crazy-ass jews.

>>27233414
>But we do.
I never said we don't! I was pointing out that the reason they use the Mk 48 is that it has basically the same weight, giving them no reason NOT to choose it!

>>27233413

>Other

"How much weight are we talking about. Will I still be able to run and gun?"

>>27233413
>>Add more weight.

>>27233413
>Add more weight.
So my gun will be more accurate AND more useful as a club? I thought you said there would be a tradeoff?

>>27233413

Typo Merc: "weight of fire"

>>27233435
This seems like a good question to ask.

>>27233435

PLS ASK THIS

If its too much weight:
>>27233413

>Actually I'll keep it as is.

Rolled 3 + 3

>>27233413
>Sacrifice weight of fire.

>>27233415
Oh, okay then.

Now I really want Nemo to make that gun a reality.

>>27233413
Oh, sweet. We don't have to lose ROF.
>Add more weight

>>27233413

>Lengthen the barrel

By the end of this campaign, Lucas' arms are gonna be MAAAAASIVE

>>27233413

>Add more weight.

Well like I said earlier I really have no idea how our weight effects us in combat, or how any of these things will really.

>>27233471

Might lose the ability to fire on the move, which was the whole point of choosing the M60.

>>27233413
>Add more weight.

>>27233487
Is lengthening the barrel that detrimental to running and gunning?

>>27233487

Or it means that our bullet spread when hip-firing on firing on the move will just get even more terrible

>>27233504
Nah, but it'll make it a bitch to use indoors.

>>27233504

Hefting around 20-pounds of gun in addition to whatever you've got on your pack and the recoil of the gun all don't lend themselves to accuracy on the move.

>>27233522
We really need a compact shotgun or an SMG for that situation.

>>27233504

Quite. A heavy accurate weapon is going to swing wildly while running. It reduces the bullet spread so where if it was a little inaccurate and only got us a few rounds on target, we might not get any rounds on target.

First, they choose the upgrade least beneficial to our Class.
And now they're choosing a tradeoff that's gonna make us even SLOWER on the move.

>>27233535

Why not a PDW? Or would that be too advanced for this timeframe? Perhaps we can set R&D on looking into the creation of a not-MP5?

>>27233102
>Choose one aspect you would like to see improved!

Incidently, whats the drawback for accuracy? weight? rate of fire?

>>27233504
To some extent.

The British L85A1, for example, has a much longer barrel than the M4A1, though chambered in 5.56 NATO. While being a tad bit heavier, it was able to engage at longer ranges.

>>27233545

It was the second best of 3 options, we should've just left it alone.

>>27233558

>adding shit to weight down a trooper for a small chance.

Theres a good reason why machine gunners are not the first in in room clearance. They're the ones laying the firepower down for teammates to advance and assault.

>>27233572
I'm assuming we'll be able to pick the old one or the new one depending on where we get deployed, so having another option can't be a bad thing, especially if we get into long engagement ranged in the notkorean war or something.

>>27233569
The L85A1 was also a bullpup, giving it roughly the same OVERALL length as an M4. And was an unreliable piece of shit. The A2 models are a vast improvement, and beautiful rifles, but nobody in their right mind would carry an L85A1 into combat if they had the choice, and it dodged the length drawback due to configuration.

>>27233558

You mean a not!automaticpistol.

Chambered in at least a pistol-caliber bullet.

Fuck carrying a gun that can't kill a man in a short burst.

If we really have to run and gun, we'll grab the smaller gun. we don't have to be super agile all the time, we got shocktroopers to do that for us.

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>>27233558
>>27233623
>we start carrying an M712 Schnellfeuer because fuck logic

>>27233413
>Game-wise, lengthened barrel means you suffer a slightly larger penalty for firing on the move or fighting close quarters. However, it would make an excellent base of fire weapon.

"Okay, lengthened barrel it is." Nemo said as she reassembles the M60 and slots in the new part. "Here, give it a try."

In the lab's firing range, you fire off several bursts. You're impressed that the grouping is much tighter than before, but you notice it's a bit heavier so it's harder to keep in an aimed position on the move, and more than once you almost hit the barrel against walls and door frames.

>I think I'll keep it this way.
>I think I'll stick with the old one.

>>27233672
>I think I'll keep it this way.

That's not so bad.

Sure, stick with it.

>>27233672
>Will I be able to swap out the barrels before deployment? I might want to switch between both versions depending on the mission.

>>27233648
>we don't have to be super agile all the time
Actually, we kinda do. We're Special Ops. Mobility and not getting into straight fights is kind of our thing.
>>27233672
>I think I'll stick with the old one.

>>27233672
>>I think I'll stick with the old one.
I prefer a Jack of all Trades machine gun at the moment and customize it for special missions.

>>27233672
>>I think I'll keep it this way.