>>27413422
would play.

>>27413422
That sounds like a serious case of Magical Realm.

I dig

Enjoy it while it lasts OP

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>>27413422
what are you a faggot?

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>>27413422
IMPORTANT EXTRA INFO: If it matters any, I'm gay.

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>>27413422
Play it!

>>27413440
Yes, actually.

>>27413422
Sounds like you're neck-deep in someone's magical realm. Might be interesting if you can tolerate the creepy

>>27413440
>>27413443
Pffffffffff ahahahaha nice timing guys

>>27413443
it still actually sounds like it could be fun, as long as the dm doesn't exclusively use it as a magical realm

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>>27413452
then take the dick.
Take it like you've never been able to take it before.

>>27413463
This.

>>27413422
That is actually a decent concept. I'd play it, as long as the GM doesn't go full Magical Realm.

>>27413463
Honestly, It sounds like the story begins at the point the Magical Realm end.

It's like the story picks up just after you've passed through the forest of the whizzard

>>27413492
This. You are aware that you were living a lie, and now must escape from your prison while attempting to release other unfortunate souls who are trapped with you.
The BBEG is an old dragon who lost his daughters and took you on to remind him of them, he doesn't do anything nasty to you, just feeds you tea, cake and reads you bedtime stories. Then he cries himself to sleep because he knows this is wrong but he misses his little girls so much.

What were you playing, OP?

>>27413512
This is amazing do it.

>>27413422
You've always wanted to be the little girl, anyway.

>>27413422

Sounds like Changeling to me

>>27413520
Hamadryad Paladin/Hospitaler, Courtier theme.

I guess it explains why the DM was so willing to waive the female-only requirement for hamadryads.

>>27413485
what is this "magical realm" thing you guys keep on referring to?

>>27413422
Conceptually it makes a ton of sense. The BBEG is not out there to conquer the world, he is a serial rapist with the magic power to charm and polymorph.

This would either be an awesome awesome game, or a horrifically creepy shitfest, it all depends on how capable your DM is (assuming the BBEG is not his marty stu that is)

>>27413473
I don't think charm person makes you forget what happened. So you probably have some pretty good memories of taking the D for however long you were imprisoned before it wore off.

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>>27413842
This thing.

>>27413512
Oh god I think I am going to cry...
He doesn't need slaying, he needs a talking to and a bunch of orphans to adopt.

>>27413851
thank you, what is the source of this?

>>27413860
Or a cleric of at least 17th level...

>>27413867
Penny arcade

Don't bother.

>>27413875
oh, I see.

I tried a google search but the results were:
"Best guess for this image: d&d 5th edition"
Which made me laugh, but wasn't very informative.

>>27413873
you mean for resurrections? as a dragon this old he should be able to cast them himself.
Of course its possible that they were killed in a way that destroys the soul and thus prevents resurrection. or that the setting doesn't permit resurrection

>>27413867
Gunshow

>>27413885
1d4chan has the original source
>http://gunshowcomic.com/471

>>27413893
>>27413875
so is it gunshow or penny arcade?
And do you have a link for gunshow because i never heard of it and the name is too generic to get useful results from google.

>>27413899
thank you

>>27413422

Considering this is an exact clone of a troll post that's been popping up on /tg/ for years, gr8 b8 m8 i r8 it an 8.

>>27413422

What's your party composition, OP?

Pre-Magical Realm, I mean. I assume they're all genderbendered now.

Did the DM say if you keep your normal skills and abilities?

Sure is Waifu Quest in here.

>>27413422
Magical realm and then "It's time to make your escape."

I don't know how to feel about this.

>>27413901

gunshowcomic.com

>>27413901
Gunshow- and googling "gunshow comic" gets you there.
http://gunshowcomic.com/471

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Go play it.

Either the DM is rusing you and you all have a great time with no creepy shit...

Or it's the worst game in existence and you all spend 4 hours getting raped by dragon dick. If so, report back and story time this shit.

>>27413919
Could you link me to other posts like this?

I need it.

For research purposes.

>>27413932
I assume we get to keep our skills and abilities.

Male Hamadryad Paladin/Hospitaler, Courtier theme. That's me, with a waived female-only requirement.

Female Half-Elf Water Elementalist/Academy Master, Sidhe Lord theme.

Female Watersoul Genasi Artificer/Battlefield Engineer, Seer theme.

Male Elf Ranger/Battlefield Archer, Fey Beast Tamer theme.

Female Eladrin Psion/Life Singer, Scholar theme.

>>27413891

Dragons can only cast sorcerer spells, and to resurrect someone without a body at all you need True Resurrection, which is divine only.

>>27413422
Oh c'mon, they can't just jump into the harem transformation! You gotta have an introduction first. Like, they're in an inn and a shady guy pills them, or they all get knocked unconscious in a fight.

Ya cain't jus' go doin' shit like this from th' start.

>>27414523
>Dragons can only cast sorcerer spells
no, dragons cast AS A SORCERER, but pick spells from any class ever printed.
That is, a dragon may choose for their first level spells magic missle (wiz/sor), cure light wounds (clr), lesser confusion (bard), etc.

that is if the dragon is focusing on gishing and doesn't dedicate themselves to the art, if they do they become book dragons who cast as a wizard... again from every class available (so a book dragon has cure light wounds spell in his spellbook... but you must be a true dragon to learn and cast that spell, so no luck if your wizard loots one)

>>27414568
And a long drawn out erotic transformation sequence and mind control?

>>27414568
So, you want to have them verbosely play out the violation of Shadowrun Rule 1?
To then have them forget about it all when they find themselves in their current situation?
That's stupid.

>>27413443
Gay for penis? Or gay for boobs?

>>27413422
>charmed
Someone please correct me but...
Does a charmed person remember everything that happened?

>>27414729
Not long and verbose, just a little bit of background would do great.

>>27414749
Yep.

>>27414761
You know, not knowing what the fuck happened to get you into this situation is kind of the shtick here.

>>27414771
ah, so shouldn't the first thing the DM do is provide detail history of what happened to them since they were captured? since its information their character's have.

>>27414806
Unless they are under some other spells that are still in place and suppress their memories, even as their personality resurfaces.
As their natural personality would have been entirely replaced, they would probably not have conscious access to the memories of the little girl persona. If they even work like a normal human mind.
You might want to keep them from asking questions and thinking too much by keeping their own memories fuzzy and have them forget things from any term longer ago than a week.
This way they would not ask about why they don't seem to grow up or get bored of their games.

Under these assumptions the scenario would be the following: You wake up in the body of a little girl that you know is not you, your head filled with fuzzy memories of childish plays and drawing blank when trying to remember anything else, except the fact that you are not this girl. Not really.
And then you walk the place, filled with squealing little girls and find a few others walking without skipping, a steely look in their eyes and whatever comes next to a weapon clutched tightly.
Welcome to the real world, Neo.

>Day 2
>Managed to work out that at least three others aren't still brainwashed, or whatever happened to us. Still not sure if the other girls can be trusted as help. They might give away information to our captors if we tell them too much.

>Day 3
>Ogar's tried breaking through the door, no such luck. With our strength it'd take quite a while to dig through the wood, and the hinges are more solid than any I've seen. Food arrives magically. We're poised to ambush whoever comes in but so far no-one's arrived. Even though we've set up a watch, all of us are on edge. We don't know whether we'd wake up ourselves if we dare sleep.

>Day 45
>The door's just wood inlaid into the wall. The light through the window is magical light.
>No-one's coming.
>There's no way out
>There's no way out
>There's no way out
>There's no way out
>There's no way out

>>27415058
3spooky5me

>>27415058
Hm.
While this is awesome, it would not work for a group.
You can't keep people entertained by telling them nothing is ever happening and there is no way.

At some point they must show themselves. They rely on the girls to be harmless, after all.
At least there must be a way to intervene in case of danger or shit going wrong.

>>27415058
I can just imagine one of them rocking back and forth on the floor, just vacantly staring at the "door"

>>27415138
>day 8
>killed one of the other girls today. I beat Ella to death with a chair leg, hit her and hit her as she screamed. It takes a lot of effort with these weak arms. I hoped someone would come, someone would intervene.

>no-one came. And now I am stained in blood of an innocent girl

>Day 9
>the blood and guts vanished overnight, Trays said, just like the body. And we found Ella in her bed, confused at why we were angry but she seemed upset and scared at me now.

>Day 93
Ogar volunteered to suicide. I hope it wejkhw---~

>day 94
>good news, dying doesn't make you forget exactly.
>bad news: we can't escape even through death
>Other news: ogar is kind of a dick and my neck still aches

Still doesnt make a lot of sense. Why create a harem and then never visit it?

>>27415279
Maybe it's like the equivalent of an acquarium for the BBEG

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>>27415284
What is this?
An aquarium for dragons?

>day 14
>Trays has been trying to cast what little sh he can without components Compared notes with Orgar. Looks like we were taken on the same month.
>Sophie remembers the Trueborn Massacre but thinks she was always like this.

>I hope we don't forget.

>Day 32
>Orgar tried to rape me. Overpowered he him and threatened to blind him. She broke down into tears. Worried what he might do to the other girls but will keep eye on her.
>Glad that we're not forgetting about the past though.
>Trays apparently making progress but also has made wizard/witch hat and cloak. Thinks it looks silly.

>>27415358
I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream: Harem Edition

>>27415358
You are awesome.
But the non-linear order makes it hard to follow events and I think some steps are pretty inconsistent.

10/10 would play

>day 4
>Trays still didn't work out how to keep the writing from vanishing, finally relented and told he told him. If you keep the paper under your bed it won't get erased like when you write on the walls. At least this will be over soon enough, we're all ready to get out of here and get our old bodies back

>day 38
>Ogar is still pissed off that all the exercising he's done hasn't bulked up his small body at all. Think she's sulking and tormenting Sophie again. Should stop him but Trays is sleeping on my lap and I don't want to wake her after he stayed up all night copying the notes off the walls before they vanished. On the plus side, all our wounds heal ridiculously fast. It'd take a very determined effort to actually kill each other.
>Will recommend to him doing knife-fighting practice later.

>day 156
>I couldn't find Ogar for half the morning today. She was busy sitting with the other girls and having a tea party. Wouldn't respond to Ogar until I turned around and then the little bitch shanked me in the kidneys and then giggled like a little girl as the others ran away screaming. Apparently she's been practicing pretending to fit in and also being able to pounce and stab in less than 3 seconds. Am not sure whether to be angry or proud.

I'm actually thinking these were pretty young adolescents as opposed to nubile harem, but eh

>Day 100
>we had a bit of a celebration today, all four of us. Or a funeral.
>we decided to stop trying to remind Sophie there was a life outside these walls, it just upsets her. We celebrated with cake, and threw it at each other and her
>We've made a betting pool. Trays thinks this place was some kind of self-sustained harem, and the owner's died or something.
>Ogar thinks its a not-exactly hell.
>I just hope we'd actually be able to split up the pool one day.

>Day ??? (let's say 200)
>Found my notes again. Can't believe it's been this long. We mostly spend the days now with Trays telling us stories about history, play-fighting with the other girls or other sorts of things, and sometimes sparring with Ogar. I worry some day he'll stop and forget that he's pretending.

>I wonder if that's why she hid my diary.

>Day 1832
>Checking back in the diary, it's been nearly nine months since we've been pretending to be girls entirely.
>Somehow it never seems to get boring, but at least we're all remembering our little charade. Every now and then one of us will say the magic words, and we'd spring into action, each of us knowing what is the best makeshift weapon in our hands to maim and kill with.
>Ah, Trays is calling me for another playtime with the dollies

>>27415675
"Your party finally breaks into the chamber, the last seal giving way... a group of little girls are seated at a round table within, looking up with surprise from their cake."

"One of them looks at each of you, and gives you the biggest smile you have ever seen."

"What do you do, guys?"

>>27415675
what game mechanics are you using?
Because I am pretty sure it isn't D&D or they would have escaped by now.

Still here OP?

>>27415694
Eh, probably. They could have fought each other and levelled until they could break out. I got bored of writing and decided "how can I end this with someone stumbling onto the Lair of Little Girls Who May Shank You If You Turn Around?"

>>27415684
Wait, so they weren't even playing the characters they made but entirely unrelated little girls in the mother of all intro sequences?

>>27415750
>>27415808
...I'm not OP, you do realise. I'm just making random writefaggotry of three transformed people stuck in a series of rooms.

>>27414421

What kind of faggy party s this? 3/5 female characters?

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Being an evil character at the moment my suggestions are a bit skewed but here's what I'd do:
>Pretend to still be brainwashed
>Get near the master
>Go princess Leia on his ass with a chain
>Once the fat fuck expires due to chokification kick his ass off that throne and plop your ass down in that comfy sumbitch
>Get your harem in here for surprise titty inspections
>Hail to the queen, baby!

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>>27415846
Don't know if that greentexting one is OP.

>>27415849
Given OP outright stated to be gay, I'd guess 'very'.

>>27415852
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StJS51d1Fzg

Your characters are actually some harem girls who thought they were adventurers due to some mindfuckery. This is the spell being lifted, not being cast

>>27415881
Greentexting one is me, and not OP.

Sorry to spoil your fun.

Real players would have gone to murdering the other girls when they didn't talk.

>>27415913
I hadn't assumed that, nor made it the condition of my fun.
You did not claim to be gay on OP's behalf, though. Did you?

>>27415935
No allegations with regards to sexual identify or alignment was put forwards, so no.

I might try this with my party at some point, though.

>>27415976
>I might try this with my party at some point, though.

Turn them gay or use greentext on them?

>>27415976
>mfw I want to play this, but full on Magical Realm.

>>27415996
Yes.
>they will be gay.

>>27415996

How magical realm can you go before your players tell you to fuck yourself?

>>27416066
that depends on the players...
i mean... what if they share your fetish?
Lome can bloom!

>>27416075

>Rape can bloom!

FTFY

>>27416066
If I've gone magical realm status, I'm already fucking myself under the table.

>>27416033
Gay girls?

>>27416096
Depends. They could choose not to partake in the various pillow fights and play-wrestling and gentle hugging and piles of cuddling girls.

>>27416090

>not fucking yourself

Are you even Elminster?

>>27416268
elminster fucks himself? canonically?
And I don't mean masturbating.
well, not with one single body

>not turning your player characters into the BBEG's beloved, spoiled daughters

>>27413422

The big question is how much dick your character had to take before this rescue can get underway, and how many times they got pregnant. Will your male character still acknowledge their children after they're restored?

>>27416525
>where do you think the rest of the harem came from

>>27416631

Other adventurers, duh.

So, storytime when?

>>27416938
When we get players to play this.

First, I need to kidnap a party.

>>27417062

Just use your regular playing group.

I'd play an all-loli group.

And now I'm hard.
Thanks /tg/

>>27416938

Can always ask teegee for some writefaggin' if need be.

>>27417864

About what?

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>>27417864
I am moistened.

more pls

Hey OP, have you had a session of the game?

Is it as awesome as it sounded?

>>27413422
My character immediately stands up, says, "Alright, CUT! I need to call my agent" and walks off the set with the director in hot pursuit. He doesn't get paid enough for this shit.

>>27421776

>She

>>27420929
No.

bump

>>27413422

I don't see a problem here.

DM has created the starting setting, true. However, they have given you freedom from the brainwashing/charming, and it's up to you to escape. Doesn't seem like the DM is forcing you to roleplay a fetish past the escape.

Considering the party gender makeup (3 of 5 are female, if that's correct), I really, REALLY see no problem with the setting. Being gay really doesn't make much of a difference, honestly.

>>27416450

That's because Portrait of Ruin sucked.

>>27424664
Nigga you best be trippin'.

>>27414729
What is Shadowrun Rule 1?

>>27417864
It happened once already in this thread.

>>27413422
I'd actually want to be in this game.

This may be due to the fact I'm game-starved, but it sounds fun in a weird sort of way.

>>27425462
I would play too. even if it's a Magical Realm.

>>27413422
I actually had a similar, but worse, idea.
For an outright ERP, so no /surprise/ magical realming here.
>You all are kidnapped princesses, nobles or just beautiful chicks.
>You are locked in comfy rooms.
>Only escape lies through sex-trap filled dungeon.
>If you get caught in sextraps, you will start slowly breaking down. Once your willpower is exhausted, your current character is left in a trap forever, you switch to a new princess.

>>27427966
So like the tomb of horrors except instead of deathtraps, it is sextraps and trying to get out instead of get in?

>>27428011
Yep. Complete with having a stack of characters to burn through.

Although on further refinement of the idea, I dropped the 'rape-mindbreak' aspect and left it as a sexdungeon that you go in for loots (and hot dickings, which you can handle just fine, enthusiastically even)

>>27428051
That sounds like a great big adventurer trap. Dungeon full of helpless adventures stuck in sextraps from previous party.

Party goes in, none get out.

>>27424698
Never, ever cut a deal with a dragon.

>>27427966
would play, I love the idea of kidnapped confinement.

>>27429871
>confinement
One of the traps would be a fountain that heals HP but turns the drinker into a giant... Locking them in a hallway shaped just right to snugly fit them.

>>27427966
Suddenly ERP General

Not that I mind

clearly you should use magic and become a little girl, then have slutty sex with your DM, OP. Its clearly headed this way

You should just fuck with the DM, OP. Tell him that upon review, your character loves her new form and work, and doesn't want to change back

>>27430421
>you should just fuck the DM, OP

If he showed you OP's image, you should immediately start singing Hurly Burly.

>>27429838
I thought it was geek the mage first?

>>27431031
No, dragons come first.

>>27430421
Bah thats the slutty way to handle things, I liek da angst making the character suffer through the transformation. If they just go off the reservation it ain't fun. Need SUFFERING!!!

>>27413512
I'd play it! Sounds like it could be an interesting twist on the classic 'Dragon Kidnaps Young Girls' shtick.

>>27415058
>>27415235
>>27415358
>>27415535
>>27415583
>>27415675
>>27415684
Oh god excuse me while I go shower and scrub until my skin comes off. This is my own, personal idea of hell-on-earth. I can actually taste the bile in my throat. If you were going for a strong reaction, congrats, anon. Just please never, ever do that again.

I wish my group would play D&D. I have the strongest urge to make the most heroic character I can, smiting ALL the evil and saving ALL the damsels.

>>27431226
>I wish my group would play D&D. I have the strongest urge to make the most heroic character I can, smiting ALL the evil and saving ALL the damsels.
And they always play SERIOUS AND DARK settings, MORAL AMBIGUITY everywhere?

>>27431226

>oh no anon is scaring me with their sexuality

>a bloo bloo bloo

>>27431226
Being stuck with young girls in a room with eternal youth while being a young girl yourself is your personal idea of hell-on-earth?

That's the most terrible thing you can think of?

>>27431389
Gradual loss of your identity to be supplanted by something imposed on you is pretty damn bad.

>>27431409
If you want I could ACTUALLY do one with something imposed on the girls. This one was written entirely mind-control-free. Only pressures were societal.

Rolled 12

>>27431433
>Only pressures were societal.
That just makes it worse. And it is still imposing the identity even if it's indirectly instead of just snap-poofing it in place.

>>27431365
What? The sexuality has nothing to do with it. It's the idea of being powerless, trapped and slowly losing your mind and sense of self. Being powerless to stop the slow, creeping degradation of your mind, blotting out the memories of anything different than the current situation, in an attempt to hold onto your sanity and one day quietly realising that it's all been in vain, as your own actions have just tightened the noose around your neck, making you a prisoner of your own mind, as much as the walls around you.

Let's just say mind-controllers, mind-breaking slavers and the like never last long around my characters... Or I end up rolling up a new one rather sharpish.

>>27431293
The only other GM in the group only runs Warhammer 40k games (a bit poorly), or Shadowrun (poorly), with occasional Seventh Sea (with an extra bucket of existential grimdark... And poorly). But he's the only guy other than me, who'll run! And the last three games I've tried to put on have fallen apart due to various things.

D&D was due to drama when one of my players through a tantrum. She was playing a charisma 19 sorceress, described as being extremely beautiful. She got upset OOC when the village card shark hit on her in the tavern, so she stormed out and took her boyfriend (playing the paladin) with her. Her boyfriend's pal, playing the cleric, left with them.

I then tried L5R, but over half my party were murderhobos and wanted nothing to do with anything courtly, so that fell apart quickly.

Most recently, I've tried Mutants and Masterminds, but after a promising first session, various members of the group have had reasons why they've not been able to make it, meaning we've had to cancel four sessions in a row and I'm starting to think it's not worth it.

I don't care if I'm playing, or running (though I'd like to play); I just want a decent game that doesn't fall apart like a house of cards!

Rolled 19

>>27431455
>I don't care if I'm playing, or running (though I'd like to play); I just want a decent game that doesn't fall apart like a house of cards!
Knowthatfeel.jpg

>>27431449
>there's a societal pressure around you RIGHT NOW
>RUN ANON RUN
>>27431455
Well, I was hoping that you'd think it ended on a happy note.
>someone to maim is the best present for little girl murderhobos

Time flows like a river and history repeats. These transgendered harem threads were popular on /tg/ some 5 years ago. Fetishism never changes.

>>27431494
>there's a societal pressure around you RIGHT NOW
Yeah, which brought me up into my current state (which I'm pretty happy with) from the blank start.
Current societal pressure is in line with my current self.
And this current self really does not want to get dissolved in favour of some guy's pet princess and finds the imagined situation creepy as hell.

Oh, and the scenario also had physical transformation as well, that adds to the creeps.

>>27431552
Happy is happy, anon. If you got dumped in China would you struggle to remain unhappy, or adjust?

If one retains your old memories, then you won't lose your old self, though you would change as everything living does.

The physical transformation's just accentuating things.

>being scared of transgendered Magical Realm antics

I don't want to be that guy, but toughen up. Not even counting fetish shit this is stuff that's frequently used in fantasy fiction (and sci-fi). Is it scary? yes! That's the point!

>>27431576
>If one retains your old memories, then you won't lose your old self, though you would change as everything living does.
That writefaggotry had them losing that.

If I'm dumped as a rice farmer into China then I /will/ be unhappy. And will be trying to get out.

What are you, a fucking amoeba that accepts whatever lot they get thrown in?

>>27431576
>>27431674
Alright, alright, I think what we can carry away from this, is that people are scared of and find different things unsettling. Further, people have different reactions to said stimuli.

There is no need to argue about this. Do you deride someone for being afraid of the dark, or spiders, while you are afraid of snakes, or swimming?

>>27431712

Agreed.

Personally I prefer when the changed person retains their own personality and has to cope with a whole new body instead. It's much funnier to watch a barbarian now with the body of a harem girl try to swing her way-too-heavy axe

>>27431736

http://www.exiern.com

>>27431674
As the writefaggoter, author intent was to have them as a mix of their original selves adjusting to their new bodies. For example -
>>27431736
No axes to swing - and no strength to either, so the barbarian compensates by taking up learning dagger styles and getting combat advantage by pretending to be an innocent girl perfectly until she gouges someone's throat out with cutlery.
Wizard's gonna wizard.
And main character remembers with that smile.

>If I'm dumped as a rice farmer into China then I /will/ be unhappy. And will be trying to get out.
Well, yes. Everyone would strive, at first. But compare a young fragile female body's weaknesses to a barbarian's hand getting lopped off, or blinded.

People adapt. Adapt and overcome.

Or they don't.

I can understand that the thought may be scary, but elements of these scenarios are faced in the real world - out of a job, onto the streets - suddenly crippled - debts and duties.

And there are ways to overcome or mitigate such things.

Does that help ease you fears, fellow britfag and other anon?

>>27431736
Definitely. It can even lead to some character development, too; such as the barbarian instead deciding to focus on the higher reflexes that his smaller frame gives him/her and switching to a pair of tomahawks, turning into a leaping blur of attacks, instead of overpowering swings. Just as a superficial example.

Involuntary form-change is fine. MINOR adjustments to personality, that the character is aware of and can chose to ignore, are fine (for example, the barbarian developing a liking for bright coloured beads in her hai- wait a second, what the hell am I doing?). Provided the character (and player) has control of how their character reacts to their changes, it's all good. The trouble comes when they are forced into a new personality, or mannerisms. At that point, you may as well have never made the character to start with, as you've essentially been told, "No, you're not playing that; you're playing THIS." It devalues your input to the game, which is one of the draws of a tabletop RPG; being able to make and do what you want. The same is true in-character; the person, the soul and essence of the 'self', is discarded as meaningless. If you're going for existential horror, great, fine, but I don't have to like it. There's a reason I don't play Call of Cthulhu.

>>27413901
it's made by kc green. people just don't want to say since they suck

>>27432035
>There's a reason I don't play Call of Cthulhu.
Is it because your group keeps falling apart?

>>27432035

Unoless of course you wake up from the MC preggers.

>>27432035
I don't think that any of it was forced, though.

If you were stuck with a bunch of girls like that, wouldn't you try to at least enjoy yourself in whatever ways you could?

That'd be a player choice, not a DM forced choice. Mind-control is effectively as you said making the player an NPC.

But, done right, a DM can make a player choose to take actions they wouldn't normally take as that character.

>>27432257
ah, in the trapped-in-a-room example though, the characters really aren't afforded any freedom. Their every course of action meets with total, abject and absolute failure. Given time to try every possible action, only to be met with failure in all but one (in this case, acting like the little girl, until you believe it yourself), you're not really given a choice at all.

Am I making myself clear here?

>>27432035

I'm very fond of characters being transformed for the purpose of disguise. They voluntarily choose it (even if it is uncomfortable or awkward) and then choose to act like their disguise to meet their goal. Good times had by all, even if you have to have sex with a few men during the process.

>>27432363
Or women. I now have this image of the bard trying and failing to seduce the Efreet princess, as she has a thing for girls instead, so he decides, "Fuck it!" and gets the wizard to transform him. Not the best example though, as he's essentially acting exactly the same.

Deliberate transformations are a very different kettle of fish; they rarely result in the player being forced into a new role, too badly. You might change into the princess's doppelgänger and be forced to play the role for a bit, while the rest of your party desperately tries to rescue the real one, but the choice is always there to decide, "Fuck this noise!" and storm out.

Long story short, it can be fun either way, so long as the players remain in control of their own actions and choices.

>>27432304
Actually, I would have put distinct goals in place:

Barbarian Tunnelling out, very very slowly

Mage relearning magic without components, to cast teleport spells

Other character looking into odd things like the limits of regeneration, ways to beat the system.

What I WOULD do is start calling for will checks if they spend too long on it, causing skill failures due to stress and running up against being stumped etc.

You can't focus soley on digging tunnels all day forever very well. It's possible to lose yourself doing that just as much.

And THEN after the players de-stress, they start getting more bonuses because hey, they've just managed to let go of some of that built up angst and not worry about it for a while, maybe get some new viewpoints or resting from digging a hole in a wall.


Making your players utterly fail over long periods is just terrible for everyone. They'd have at the very least a semblance of progress, and likely actually discovering more about the scenario they're in.

I wouldn't for example run the above scenario exactly like how I wrote it out for most of my players (and the ones who might want to would... well. Ahem. Eagerly magical realming, I'm sure.) but would put it more like a mystery to solve over a longer term. What's written above is a story, not a game plan.

>>27432304
>>27432475
And if things REALLY get boring, and it's obvious that no-one is having fun-

I'd suggest something to one of the other players -

>day 936
>Trays decided that we'd play a different game today.
>Roll six sets of 4d6 drop lowest, we're going to pretend to ADVENTURE

and then things start going full recursive Scheherazade.

>One of the girls joined in. I think she's happy to not be playing a simpering mindless side individual all the time and is happy to actually play 'her own character' for once, whatever that means

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>>27432533
I think we just got so meta, my brain melted.

That'd be a real coup though; freeing the other girls from mind-control by means of a game. Let them express themselves as themselves, by working around and within the restrictions of the spell... Now that's CLEVER! I'd have never have come up with that.

Not that I ever need to, with my GM...

>>27432475
I guess that works. Like you say though, the above is a story. A story that creeps the hell out of me.

In a way, I kind of WANT to play a game like that now. When it all finally pays off, when you FINALLY get your freedom, still as YOU, although maybe not QUITE the same 'you' that got trapped in the first place... That'd be a hell of a feeling, if you can just soldier through the hard times.

Why can't I play with people more like you guys? Why?

>>27432756
I'd offer to run a game for you with some of the folks from /tg/, but.. I currently only play with groups that are based out of the ERP players so I can definitely understand that it might not be your speed.

Sorry.

Note: all of those game I've played with /tg/ fell apart, too.

>>27432475
Wizard should have been a sorcerer (or an eidetic wizard substitution ACF) with eschew materials. Or a cleric, or a druid.
Wake up, prepare spells, rip reality a new one.

>>27431455
I agree with you, and also you didn't really need to explain since it was pretty obvious that is what you meant.
That guy is either trolling you or has 0 reading comprehension capability. I am guessing the latter actually.

>>27432937
>day 1
>woke up in girl body. Sorcerer seemed pissed, teleported us all out, changed us back into our normal forms except +5 to all stats, and then wished ten billion GP in magical items and everything we ever wanted using his magic

>he then went on to forge world peace, cure starvation with infinite replenishing food, create a utopian infallible governmental system and solve all the problems ever

>I don't know why I'm keeping a diary, or why I'm an adventurer because for some reason this sorcerer-wizard just solves everything with magic just like that

>>27432465
Transformations just for the sake of transformations are fun, mainly to watch the fallout. Trying to influence anything besides the transformation makes it much less enjoyable.

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Why is everyone on the internet into transformation shit now?
Jesus.
Don't any of you guys hit orcs and pick up gold and magic items anymore without going straight for the girdle of femininity?

>>27433861
Because it's my fetish, my obsession, and the yawning abyss at the base of my mind.

Every day, hundreds more fall in.

>>27433861
>Why is everyone on the internet into transformation shit now?

>everyone

>one thread on /tg/

Yep, everyone sure is into doing fetish shit RP all day, yessirree. It's not at all the same six dudes making these threads all the time, nope.

>>27431455
>It's the idea of being powerless, trapped and slowly losing your mind and sense of self.
But that's the best bit!

>>27434092
>same six dudes
Well, you just go ahead and keep deluding yourself, I guess.

>>27434494
Everyone's always asking for low-powered adventures. It's actually quite a good idea, if they players can wrap their juvenile minds around it and just roleplay.

>>27435054
>>27431455
Agreed, kidnapping scenarios that take this stuff in mind are the best, even if the owner is trying to avoid it.

Never stop being fucking creepers, /tg/

>>27435307
The funny thing is that this is nothing compared to most boards on this forsaken site

I liked the BBEG making the adventurers his beloved daughters.

>>27435307
>creepers
What does this even mean? "People I dislike"? Well sorry mate, but there's not much I can do about that, and if there was, chances are that would put me off doing it.

>>27436206
It does strike a nice balance of horrible vengeance and "so fucking lonely..."

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>>27438428

>So, Desdemona, what did you do today?
>I terrorized the peasants a bit and then put out a bounty on elf ears
>What about you Natalia?
>I summoned a demon and let it loose to pester the merchant women and a succubus to seduce the merchant men
>And what about little Vanessa?
>Hm? Oh, I was a million miles away. Dad, what's a paladin?
>Oh uhm. One of those pesky holy warriors who think they're better than everyone. never you mind.

>>27413422
Is it Cody?

Cause the only thing missing is a race change to Living Dolls and a heap of rape/Orgy

>>27438760
I now want this in a game, either as players, or as NPCs.

It'll be as NPCs. My players would never do something like this.

Poorly-fleshed-out NPCs, because my group just doesn't care and I'm not sure how to make them.

fml

>>27440857
I feel for you. This is really cool, and would make a hilarious and awkward start to a game.

But some players are like that. Too scared of your magical realm to ever really fly.

>>27435140
>Everyone's always asking for low-powered adventures.

Since fucking when?

Y'all niggas just went full /d/.

>>27432883
I'd still want to game, ;-;

>>27440988
>>27440857

Writefag time?

>>27434494
>Harem Girls.jpg
This wasn't even NSFW ;_;

>>27443329
When'd Dark Heresy come out? No, wait, think Call of Cthulhu is older-what year'd CoC come out?

>>27448637
I think it had boobs showing and this is a blue board, so...

>>27433026
that was awesome.