Alright /tg/.Take a look at the picture. Don't see much right? I wouldn't expect you to. For now, we'll call it Entity #1 for lack of a better name. At this point it is little more than a small bundle of organic material that happened to form into a clump. It has no mouth to eat and no sexual organs to reproduce with. In addition, it is currently the only thing on the planet which is even close to being a life form.The world itself is quite new. It orbits around a single main-sequence star among other planets and is the second planet from its sun. It has a single moon orbiting around the planet itself. The planet is also covered entirely in liquid water. We shall call this planet "Talyi".Your goal, /tg/, is to take this little ball of useless and help it take over the world- one step at a time. Before we really begin, however, here are a few rules for the game:1. For every post, you can only make a single small change. This change can be anything from light spots or a change in reproduction method but the change must be subtle- you can't go from having no limbs to all of a sudden having six.2. Changes made must be accompanied by an image. This simply makes changes easier to keep track of.3. Evolution in the setting is Darwinian in nature. In this case all changes must be due to environmental pressure IE: it all of a sudden gets too hot, a new predator appears, etc.4. There will only be natural change unless otherwise specified. As in changes for random things such as alien intervention or space radiation won't occur unless otherwise stated, and will only happen once if at all.
>>27846040Oh wait, I forgot to mention. Splitting off from the main branch is encouraged.
>>27846040>Be the only life-form on the planetDOMINANCE ACHIEVED!
>>27846075>>27846058Wow I'm a shitty GM. So I'm gonna retcon that change. For now we'll assume the thing reproduces through fission like an amoeba and absorbs nutrients through osmosis.
>>27846040Some of these simple cells find their way to deeper waters, near volcanic vents. Through chance mutation, some have begun to produce proteins which harness the heat of the water. The ocean depths become filled with these thermosynthetic bacteria.They create oxygen as waste.
>>27846866my brain hurts. these threads are awfully complicated.call me when I can add fangs, claws, horns poison and poop-flingying arms
Rolled 47>>27846040We're already some kind of fully autonomous breasticle.WE ARE THE SUPERIORIST LIFEFORM!
This little guy now has a little limb for swimming and stuff.
>>27847175Damn, beat me to it.
>>27846866we develop a mysterious organule to expel overabundant nutrients
>>27847066you are a failure with no imagination.>>27846866internal changes allow oxygen to be utilized, creating a hyper efficient organism. It uses the excess energy to scoot around with a crappy little tail.
>>27847216fuck. hive mind. now i have no imagination and am a failure.
>>27847216YOUR THREAD IS UGLY AND STUPID I NOT WANT IT!!!!!I HATE YOU!!!!!ENJOY YOUR GIRL PINK THINGSBTWPINK IS THE WEAKEST COLORI HOPE YOUR THREAD ENDS UP AS AN HERBIVOREPINK HERBIVORE LOL
>>27847211we gain a selective form of mind control
>>27847211Two of them come together to form a symbiotic lifeform.
>>27846040It ferments stuff now. Probably dead other cells on the bottom of the shallow areas of the ocean. Give it a billion years in game, and some of the descendants of this lil' guy will make booze.
>>27847333It also grows a pseudo-beard.
>>27847372The pseudo beard exists so it can feel its way around the bottom of the ocean to find dead cells and collect them
Rolled 86>>27847211>>27847324>>27847332stay classy, /tg/
>>27847417So this makes sense, still being single-cellular and unable to feel, protein sensors or whatnot coat the pseudopods which bare a striking resemblance to facial hair. Senses dead cells=meal time.This also give me ideas for later on, when things do become multicellular. Beardshrooms.
>>27847544I mostly did that to make sure that we could have beards on our organisms
Bump so I can contribute later.
>>27847372some of the Psuedo-beard slowly grew into simple flagellum allowing for improved mobility.
>>27853255forgot my image and left my pokemon stuff up, just all around fails
I don't have any drawing programs on this computer, so I'm asking if people could draw a few things for me.>>27853255Some of these begin to clump together into small colonies.>>27847333A different branch of these begin to reproduce via budding rather than binary fission. Tiny cells grow from and break off of the parent cell.>>27847203Some of these end up returning to the surface and become more suited for utilizing heat from the sun. Generally, they'll be thin and platelike so they can easily absorb the less intense heat.>>27846040Some of the baseline begin to engulf other bacteria to eat them.
>>27854145> Some of these end up returning to the surface...
>>27854145> Some begin hideous budding.
>>27854145>Some of the baseline begin to engulf other bacteria.
>>27854145>Some begin to clump together into small colonies.
>>27855497>>27855161>>27854952>>27854822Thank you. Shitty laptop. These should give some different directions to take things.
>>27854822These begin developing pigmentation to better capture the sun's heat.
>>27855497Predation by >>27855161 causes these to begin forming defensive radial colonies. This has the unexpected result of forming a fermentation reservoir at the core.
>>27855161Some of these develop organelles that contain enzymes that help them break down other bacteria better.
>>27857260Curious where this may lead.
>>27859710>neckbeardvirusNaw. Neckbeard fungi is where it's at.
>>27857032In order to better experience their surroundings, some of these organisms begin to develop eye-like light sensors.Also, pigmentation becomes more thorough.
>>27857260They begin using this reservoir to store surplus food.
>>27861892A few individuals of the collective develop simple sensor organs, capable of detecting beneficial and harmful environment factors. However, the collective does not yet have a proper way to communicate this information and only the clumps where the sensor individuals are the strongest reap actual benefits from this development.
>>27859643These become larger, and more amobea like, while also developing more enzyme capsules.This way, they can consume other organisms far more efficiently.
bump for evolution
>>27861631>mfw algae with eyespots actually do exist.
>>27867159eyes have evolved independantly at least 5 or 6 times.
>>27867231We are still dealing with single-celled organisms. I just think it's cool that there are some which can detect and respond to light.
>>27859643Some, when eating >>27857032 don't digest them immediately. Instead, they get some energy produced from their thermosynthesis.
>>27867231Eyes are still evolving even as we speak.
>>27862136That's just an egg with sperm.
>>27870550Kinda does resemble that. Actually a proto-fungus.
>>27871384So what's gonna happen next?
>>27871474Whatever you guys happen to want.
>>27871574Okay then, let's see where this goes...In some colonies the individual cells start to grow bonds. They now function as one being made up of specialized parts.
>>27861631For protection against predation and being more hydrodynamic, they develop a cell wall.Responds to light. Where there is light, there is heat. Or maybe better, how about being sensitive to infrared?Added some details like a few organelles and genetic material.
>>27871721Cool. first multi-cellular organism.Some of the multicellular decomposers begin to form long tubes instead of round clusters. The cells with sensor organelles are found around openings into the tubes, where they scoop in dead organisms. Other cells begin to loose their pseudopods, specializing in fermenting what food they scrounge up. These tubes can get to be several meters long, but they still can't be seen by the naked eye.They probably don't like oxygen that much either.
>>27846866Those which cannot move form large sheets around volcanic vents.Their high activity releases high amounts of oxygen in the deep regions of the oceans.
>>27876766Reproduction of these now takes place when the chain becomes to long to sustain itself and breaks. Therefore, these cells now have some way to change their phenotype to the proper one for their position after the strand breaks.
>>27877178To deal with oxygen problem, specialised cells start to form in the tubes, which release a small protein which binds to the oxygen to keep the concentration near the tube low.
>>27874430A small change in the cell wall composition allows some of these to stick together and form large films on the surface
This is fucking amazing
>>27847216the oxygen burners develop an array of pseudopods.
>>27863009Some obtain long cilia, which allow them to feel for prey without moving their body. This more sedentary lifestyle allows them to conserve energy.
Some >>27857032 which were preyed upon by >27869840 become capable of resisting digestion. In turn, the small amoebic organisms can just live off of the energy produced by what are now essentially heat-based chloroplasts. They cease to actively hunt, and instead float near the shorelines. Also, an actual nucleus. Protects that DNA.
>>27881803Accidentally broke the link.>>27869840
>>27863009Some of these take to the deep sea environment. Some proteins they produce are changed to be more resistant to the oxygenated environment.
>>27879288Some of these become luminescent, flashing periodically to attract the light-sensitive algae to eat.
OP, if you ever feel like giving us extinction events in the future, this could probably be used as a roll table.http://wiki.mydigiview.com/index.php?title=Disasters
>>27884276>Sagan4Fortunebro is that you?
>>27884707No, but I did learn about it from one of his old threads.Sage for off topic.
>>27884276We'll let these happen later when the organisms in the game start getting more varied and complex.
>>27879115a long flagellum allows the oxygen burners to capitalize on their abundance of energy.
>>27877885I'm just assuming that you just used the old image for convenience.Some of the cells in the clumps specialize to have large vacuoles to hold extra sugars or whatnot made by the surrounding cells. On cold days when they can't produce much, the food stored by the large cells diffuses into those surrounding them.Also, I'm calling these moe blobs from now on.
>>27876766Several strands of these head towards the surface to get further from the increasingly oxygen-rich environment of the depths and begin clinging to the sheets of moeblobs to harvest the dead.
>>27846040If the planet's name is Talyi, I vote we call this thing a whacker.
>>27893357Well, now we have a name for our first organism besides Entity #1
>>27881803Some of the now obsolete digestive organelles alter their enzymes to cause a heat-reaction with the waste oxygen produced by the thermoplasts, creating a more efficient energy cycle.
>>27894015forgot the darwinian-clause.Due to tidal drift carrying them nearer to the colder polar regions...
>>27893346The added weight and drag of these parasitic threads pulls many sheets below the surface. Some survive by virtue of repellent adaptations to their cell walls...
They are now all members of Scientology!
>>27895143> Some survive on the surface by......others because of a tight seal between cells trapping the bouyant gasses expelled by the tubes. These sheets thrive on the heat created by the fermentation process.
>>27895143Some of the parasitic tubes develop rudimentary extremities to provide downward locomotion. They latch onto blob sheets and pull them under, accelerating the harvest process. Once the sheet dissolves the threads float back up to the surface and find a new victim. The threads that try this with the new, resilient blobs kill themselves in the process.
>>27896037Some sheets survive submersion by increasing the adhesion of their cell walls, forming a thin film on the exterior of the warm tubes. Waste proteins expelled by the threads begin to adhere to the outside of the film
>>27889039Facing the increased potential for predation, and being far from any ability to fight, leaves few other options for the oxygen-burners.Thankfully, the flagella-producing gene of some goes into overdrive, and more flagella means more speed.
>>27898605More thrust from the back isn't all that helpful when the bulk of your body is an awkwardly positioned dead-weight on the front.Thankfully, a stiff pseudopod running from front to back works wonders on re-aligning the centre of mass.
>>27899576Swimming straight is pointless when it means swimming away from food sources. A simple heat-sensitive organelle will solve that issue.
>>27877167Because a flow of cold water can make "starve" parts of the colony and kill them with ease, these blobs become connected to their "descendance", sharing their reserved food and energy. As time goes by, most collonies become fully connected
>>27854952Are these things still around?
>>27900270If they've not turned into anything else, generally everything is still around.
>>27854952Over time, a mutation in this budding method of reproduction, causes these fermenters to remain connected to their parent as they bud from them, and thus form large chains of themselves. These fermenter chains cover the sea floor in large mats, consuming dead organic material that falls to the sea floor.The alcohol they produce as a side effect of their fermentation process can occasionally be trapped underneath the mass of micro organisms, and thus fail to dissolve to the ocean water. These "pools" of alcohol may reach high enough concentrations to become deadly to organisms who feed on the fermenters, and accidentally breach these "pools".
>>27900076Some of these "heat-blobs" get bigger, becoming a food-deposit for therest of the colony. This also allows to expand the colony into zones without any heat source, making "roads" to new territories were a colony could live easily
>>27901444Dang, forgot pic
Rolled 95One more thing before a new thread starts. IT'S MASS EXTINCTION TIME!
>>27903584VOLCANOES! All around the planet, volcanoes have begun to erupt one after another. Since they are all beneath the ocean, it does little to create any actual land, however land has formed enough that small tidepools can exist. In addition, a new abundance of nutrients and heat is put into the ocean.
>>27898172These guys are now really happy about their new symbiotic relationship with the hardenend moeblobs as their outer shell protects them from sudden temperature fluctuation. With their limited mobility they seek a median range from active volcanoes where conditions are just right for themselves and the blob sheets they prey upon. Food shortage may become their next issue.
>>27903584Does this mean you're starting a new thread? If so; could we get an updated version of >>27893560 ?
>>27904266This thread still has plenty of life. We're only 103/300 posts in.
>>27903716Ash clouds block the sun, killing of large swaths of the baseline moeblob sheets. This, along with the overall increase in energy and nutrients, creates a steady rain of consumable materials from the ocean surface. Fermentation tubes and chains experience a massive boost in population.
>>27904266Sure. I'll get to it after my friends head home.
>>27905601Meanwhile, gas-pocket sheets >>27895182 desperate to preserve warmth, begin forming tighter bonds with adjacent cells, and often fail to fully separate. This forms a nearly airtight seal between the sheets and the tubes.
>>27905616And here it is.>>27905601I'm guessing that >>27895143, >>27894015, >>27891412, >>27877885, >>27874430, >>27861631, and >>27857032 are probably now extinct, since a sudden event eliminated their food supply. Sky probably clears after a few years, but the damage is done. The survivors will have to expand into their previous niches. Also, I bet that the volcanic islands forming will soon be teeming with life.
>>27901444>>27901457THose conections develop some "proto-nerves". A blob in need of food will ask nearby food for help, which would contract to release their food.As time goes by, the blobs redirect these cries to the deposit, which contracts and releases large cuantities of food, and through contraction of other blobs, reach the starving blob.Blob
>>27909938Fermentation tubes thrive and grow but as the moeblob sheets, their traditional food source, disappear they have to readjust. Some develop pouches where they collect and store minerals. These dense, heavy organs serve as anchors and enable the tubes to scour the ocean bottom where food is plentiful. Lots of tubes die when they hit alcohol pools produced by >>27901037 And yes, I realize it looks naughty...
>>27914742Others stay on the surface and produce specialzed cells that metabolize carbon and energy from the sulphur and methane in the athmosphere. Unable to sustain their long bodies they reduce average colony length to a few inches and most lose their fins, turning them to free floating cell strings. Only those that happen to be separated from other predatory species in inland tidepools survive in significant numbers.
And out of the silence, a bump.
>>27894015Some of these survive by filtering in oxygen from their surroundings. Already at the whims of the tides, many of them are deposited in tidal pools.
>>27912851Some blobs in the colony specialize to make energy and food out of the blobs who die, and the deposit blob specialuize even more in storaging and pumping food
>>27904009In response to a decrease in easily obtained food, the size of the feeding flagellum and locomotion pods on these increase, giving them a longer reach and greater speed (this shortens their overall length). They begin placing living organisms as well as dead into their fermentation core. The shells on their passengers thickens, and they are no longer recognized as foreign bodies.
>>27882588The deep sea amoeba develops a proboscide to suck from these (>>27915894), although they still eat other creatures if needed.
>>27916045I dub thee Microshark!
>>27900032>>27915800These two species start an unusual symbiotic relationship. The fast-moving oxygen-burner rams into the motionless endotherm, pushing them about. This keeps the endotherm safe from predators as well as constantly oxygenated, and keeps the oxygen-burner warm.
>>27915894The corpse specialized blobs grow little tentacles to grab and suck nutrients and (fragments of) dead cells from the enviroment, to refine them, and allowing the "roads" between colonies to survive better. (The pic now shows how the colony interaction works. Notice the bigger number of deposit-blobs and decomponser-blobs at the roads, compared to the number of heat-blobs at the submarine volcanoes )
>>27916341Some of these symbiotic relationships gow semipermiable membranes to protect the oxycen-burning head from microparticals that might damage its delicate surface.This makes the Oxygen burning slower but the added protection makes it worth it
>>27914884Poolworms begin attaching to rocky surfaces on the shores of tidepools, taking advantage of tidal action alternating their exposure to the atmosphere with submersion. >>27915800These adapt in a similar manner, fixing in place at inlets, where water-flow is constantly bringing them fresh oxygen and other resources.
>>27917085The "garbage refiner-blob" starts drinking from and the alcohol pools of the fermenter chains (>>27901037). As time goes by, some "refiner-blobs" start specializing in the burning of alcohol inside themselves, with the oxigen that all these blobs used to made as a by-product.
>>27918176They can't really have nerves, since those are still induvidual cells. Maybe protein connections?
>>27918992The secret is magic. I still want to know how did these >>27898172 not eat the moesheets stuck on themselves. Meh.Also, I finished a scheme for >>27918176, wich shows how a full colony works. Nothing new, so this is just a bump
>>27884707Nah, I'm here.I must say, this thread is the kind of evo game that I dream of. Y'all are a creative bunch.
>>27919835Thanks a lot.>>27919589An alcohol based ecosystem- THE AMERICAN DREAM.
>>27920078It's a microscopic speakeasy.
>>27919835tg gets shit done.
>>27914742Some of these find their way into tidepools. They postion themselves in the center where their weighted anchors develop into a suction cup like "foot" rooting them in place and they lose their fins. Now stationary, these changes significantly reduce their need for energy. The tide sways their (still several feet long) bodies around and they feed on all organic matter they can find.
>>27906440Microshark attacks cause the mostly-stationary tubes (suspended on the surface by moebaloons) to develope a hardened exterior. As a side effect, they begin breaking off sooner, growing to an average of half a meter.
>>27919565I'd say that they could have a layer specialized to just split off and die, creating a protective layer of dead cells. The pseudopods of the fungal tubes would scrape off dead cells.The skies are probably clear again, so something could take over the now available niche of the old moe blobs.
>>27922527Ok. Which did you have in mind?I'll try and draw it if you describe it.
>>27922777The protective layer, or stuff moving into the open niches? I'm was just saying that they were open for something else to occupy now, like the only eukaryotic species, or a different species of moe.
>>27917853Some of the tidal endotherms begin excretion of solid mineral waste, forming "nests" that protect them from violent currents and predators.
You are awesome /tg/
>>27923551There really aren't predators yet.
>>27924813Sure there are, amobeas and microsharks.
>>27924907OF COURSE THERE ARE.Also, the volcanic activity dies down. Soon enough, all the ash produced by the eruptions settles down. Thanks to the contents spilled by the volcanoes, a thin layer of ozone forms in the atmosphere.
>>27924907Microshark is a bit of a misnomer. They're more of a mobile fungus.>>27914742With their new orientation in the water, they are better able to make use of a new food supply, free-floating microbes. They begin to feed by filtering out these microbes through the numerous pores along their length.
>>27895143A number of sheets of these managed to survive the ash-eclipses due to a surplus of storage blobs. These sheets develop a layered structure: normal cells on the top, storage cells >>27891412 in the middle, and specialized defensive cells below. As the skies clear, they begin to repopulate.
>>27899576On the still forming islands, some of these begin to oxidize ferrous metals dissolved in some pools, wet sands, and ground water. Through not using it, they loose their thermosynthesis, becoming completely aerobic.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_bacteriaThe diagram on the right on this page is good for figuring out how to expand into new niches, for those who like to get a little more technical.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaerobic_organism
Time for sleep bump.
>>27925545(sorry for no picture, couldn't think of a way to show this properly)Horizontal gene transfer gives the tubes flagella and a few other (pseudo)genes. Filtering is improved by flagellar cells around the pores, creating a steady stream of water through the tube.
>>27919589I'm somewhat confused now. Is it just me, or do they anaerobically turn waste into alcohol and aerobically turn the alcohol into water/co2?
>>27930323The way it looks, the entire process is anaerobic.
>>27932218But then burning is a wrong word for what it does to alcohol. Plus: I don't really see an anaerobic way to break up alcohol which still gives energy.
>>27932393Oh wait, I see what you're doing. The blobs don't generate alcohol, the sheets do. The blobs (correct me if I'm wrong) use air or something similar to turn that alcohol into energy, mstly in the form of heat.
>>27932446Ah, right. I was just misreading. NVM.
>>27919589Now, the conduits can constrict, so they can stop the drinking amoebas (>>27916089) from sucking dry whole colonies.
>>27933123As the deposits increase in size to keep more food, so does thie force when pumping that "blood" they keep. As pressure increases, the other blobs (and the conduits) must grow stronger, resulting in a general growth of all the colony. Right now, a deposit is the size of a tick, and the cell walls of all blobs have become scaled, each scale capable of constrict or expand independetly, forming "proto-muscles"
>>27901037Fermentation chains develop interconnected membranes to better trap the alcohol beneath. Predators are likely to breach these membranes befor doing any real damage to the chains themselves, effectively suiciding in a concentrated blast of alcohol release.
>>27930245Does this do the job?
>>27934575The drunk-blob's tube becomes stronger thanks to the scales, and its end becomes harder, in order to breach through the fermentation chain's membrane (>>27934585)
>>27933123Couldn't it be beneficial to form a film over the alcohol producing colonies to trap it and make feeding easier?
>>27934672A road made only of deposit-blobs proves to be faster than other configurations. As time goes by, some deposits that have now become pump-blobs, develop more conections and internal separations, making the transport of blood more efficient.The mesh of blobs now can grow much larger, and nucleums of zones with detritus, zones with alcohol and zones with volcanoes can be connected with ease. Colonies of refuse-blobs start making their way out of the oceanic deeps.Also, the increasing force of pump-blobs accelerates the rate et which all blobs are becoming bigger. An average pump-blob is now the size of a chickpea, but a pump road can get to the diameter of an arm.
>>27934729Neat idea. We need the conduits to get stronger, though, so that the blobs don't fall into an ethilic death (of doom), plus some sense of structure by the blobs, maybe even globe-blobs, filled with oxygen...
And a bump
>tfw this is great
>>27935008When blobs reproduce they first take a look at the enviroment: Is it warm? Is there any alcohol that may have been accidentally picked by a refuse-blob? Does a zone have an high traffic of blood?Depending on the answers, a blob will make blobs of one kind or anotherThis requires nerves, and united to the "nerves" required for the conduits, starts to get complicated: A neural node start's to form around the DNA in a nucleum, controling the reproduction and relationship of blobs. (Pic. A)Also, thanks to the scaled cellular walls, conduits start to grow nerve cotrolled valves, that permit the flow of blood in certain directions: Blobs can redirect blood flux to the ones that need it more, deposit-blobs can evacuate their content under the attack of a deep amoeba, and Pump-blobs can redirect the flux to one or another colony. (Pic. B). Conduits grow stronger, too, allowing for solid constructions that permit the blobs to go further into alcohol pools and volcanoes, or go through fisures in the ground, building "bridges".And now is time that YOU fa/tg/uys do something, I feel completely alone with these blobs...
>>27936061watWell, thanks again for your free image-swapping system, 4chan.Pic is for >>27935008
>>27934630Limited space and resources in tidal pools causes a change in the reproductive cycle of the anchor tubes. Now, rather than simply breaking when they become too long, they grow an additional anchor-pod, filled with food and materials. These pods separate from the parent tube, re-anchor nearby, and begin growing upwards.
>>27937049but how is babby formed
>>27937088They need to do way instain mother> who kill thier babbys. becuse these babby cant frigth back? it was on the news this mroing a mother in ar who had kill her three kids. they are taking the three babby back to new york too lady to rest my pary are with the father who lost his children ; i am truley sorry for your lots >>27937049These still grow mainly in the open oceans. Or is this a species that has adapted to the tide pools?
>>27937157now I know how babby is formedthx u
>>27937157I meant to link these also >>27921256Meanwhile, out in the open oceans; >>27928335Increased aggression from microsharks causes these to grow long chains of moedefenders, keeping the juicy moeblob centers out of predators' grasps.
Man, I absolutely love this thread. I wonder how long it will take for the great breakthrough when organisms start leaving the water.
>>27938112We need a reason to leave the seas first. Do poolworms (>>27917853) have any predator that forces them to leave? They're the only creature I remember that needs air. If these get pushed by predators, more creatures will follow, for which they'll need to adapt to the atmosphere.
>>27936090The growing complexity and size of blobs forces the refuse-blobs to increase the number of particles and debris they take from the sea.They start developing pores and pump water through them, filtering their surroundings. The part of the blob adapted to refine debris relocates to the pores, preventing blood to escape. The refining-blobs are now filter-blobs
>>27879288These make their way to tidepools, attracted by the growing biodiversity that is acumulating there, eating these two >>27917853.
>>27939821Faced with another dangerous predator the barely visible worms retreat to the edge of the tidepools. Simply attaching to the rocks above water level and depending on spray doesn't really work out. Some worms however manage to burrow into sand, gravel or loose soil along the pools, leaving only a small part of their body exposed. They are now safe from predation, well moisturized and survive by metabolizing elements from air.
>>27923551Faced with increasing numbers of predators (with a dwindling supply of food >>27942974 ), the endotherms build their nests higher, and begin covering them with a membrane similar to one produced by their ocean-roaming cousins >>27917216
>>27943359I can just imagine large sheets of these matting the bottom of tidal pools.>>27942974A bit soon for it to be moving on to land. How does it reproduce outside of the water?
>>27945007The tube genus has reproduced by breaking off at certain lengths for as long as they've been tubes. >>27937049 is the first exception to this. I imagine the beachworms break off at a bit above ground level, and the offshoot burrows nearby.
>>27945007I'm not even sure if the beachworms really count as land creatures. They didn't move onto land but into land, still dependent on water but simply hard to reach for others. I'd guess their existence is rather boring and reproduction is slow. They could still grow to massive numbers though if others don't follow them.
>>27948230They'll be a smorgasbord for the first real land dwellers.
>>27916045Intra-species conflict by microsharks weeds out those with thinner and/or weaker moeshield shells. The shields develop thicker skins, faster. As a result, the shield cells lose their sensory organs, and their flagellum-tails begin to atrophy.
>>27948838These thicker shells prove to be poor heat conductors, and the sybiot population again begins to dwindle. Salvation comes to both in the form of a minor mutation in the cell walls of the tubes. This mutation causes the shield cells to be recognized as part of the creature. Bonds form, through which foods and materials are delivered.
>>27948887Awwww, it's love.
>>27939702In his exploration of the non-deep sea, blob-colonies find tidal pools, known to gather lots of life (And thus, of corpses and debris), becoming a great place to start filter-blobs colonies. Because of the sun's light, some parts are a bit warmer, allowing the thermal-blobs to spawn here. As time goes by, these thermal-blobs adapt to take sunlight itself.
>>27949317Is this light using blob colony a different species from the deep sea heat using one?
>>27948887>>27948838Not sure whether or not I should allow this... but I think I'm going to.
>>27950509I think all blobs are the same colony.
>>27950526They are, but it's almost starting to be a different species per blob...
>>27950526They're all the same colony? As in stretching out for miles?
>>27951588not hopeless, I've been watching this thread since post 4.Been going for daysslow thread but good
>>27952240>looks at OPDamn
>>27950512Mind if I ask what caused the hesitation?
>>27953114I was a bit hesitant because you were in a way changing two things at once.>>27952240I'm kind of wondering when we'll reach the bump/picture limit.
>>27953604 I wanna join in but would like a full chart like in >>27909938 so I can know where to start.
>>27953604Ah. I thought a fairly straightforward cause/effect thing, but I'll try to avoid it in future.>>27953933Make one? That, or go from wherever.>>27949317These things are going to form an ocean-wide neural net, aren't they?
A new opportunist appears, feeding on detritus and dead matter.It has gates that allow it to filter out what it feeds into the main body.
Tried updating the chart
>>27955527Thanks! I was wondering where a couple of those branches had went.
Just wish to say this thread and all similar threads are amazing and I wish I could add something worthwhile.
>>27955527Made a couple minor fixes. I think we might need a better chart system soon.
>>27949317>There's gonna be some babble now, feel free to skip to a tl;drAs a result of filter-blobs (violet) catching all sort of things, new minerals have been added to the boold (Sulfur and shit, most from volcanoes). This has lead to reactions between these sustances an the blood's components, sometimes leading to dwarf-funny results, and eventually leading to colonies inmunne to the new components (Which still are lethal to others, like the deep amoeba >>27916089) and filter-blobs that excrete (and won't take back) the most unbearable stuff from the colonies.Some of the components that now flow through the blobs' blood contain and trasnsport oxygen (in a manner similat to how our red cells do), which drunk-blobs (cyan) will use to get the oxygen they need, storing the oxygen and sending the carriers back to tke blood. As time goes by, a globe-blob appears, which floats in the water, and permits the building of structures that completely cover alcohol pools.The neural node develosp a new function: stability sense, which allows for more complex buildings that include the new globe-blob.This globe-blob also allows for vertical pumplines that lead to light-blob patches at the ocean's surface, although these patches are likely to disconnect from the pump-net (creatures can tangle in the pump-blobs and break them).>tl;dr:Drunk-blobs make globe-blobs: Deposits with oxygen, for the dunk-blobs. We can have floating colonies of light blobs at the sea'a surface (Think of moe-sheets) connected to the net.>>27935058At last, globe-blobs>>27954423>These things are going to form an ocean-wide neural net, aren't they?Blobs specialized at sending "gib food nao pls" messages much faster and in a more organizated way, plus pump roads whith faster nerves, might be a good start. Can someone do this please? I have to get some sleep.
>>27960226> This may already be true, but was never implicitly stated.Due to the increased load each part has to carry, the neural nodes and conduits become distinct cells in their own right.
>>27960226the guy who suggested globe blobs here. I'm at work right now. But I will take over. And at least keep this thread alive
>>27960226>>27961385Before I go any further with the neural net plan, I need to know if this >>27936090 is saying that the conduits are single-tubed or tripple-tubed. If single tubed, they need to split into at least two. Four would be ideal: in/out for blood and in/out for hormones.Fuck, I need to sleep too. The conduits copy the pump-blobs by spliting the flow of blood into two paths, making transmission more efficient and reducing clogs and ruptures.The neural-blobs use the new chemical cocktail available to develop blob-specific "hormones" to control growth patterns and respond to distressed cells more specifically.Someone draw these please.
>>27948887Something to say about the shape of microsharks. They aren't tapering off in the picture. It's actually the fungus tube form extending and vanishing into the distance.
>>27961385>>27961902>The conduits copy the pump-blobs by spliting the flow of blood into two paths, making transmission more efficient and reducing clogs and ruptures.>The neural-blobs use the new chemical cocktail available to develop blob-specific "hormones" to control growth patterns and respond to distressed cells more specifically.-------->>27961902Conduits are single tubed, that's just a valve. For now let's start with two conduits, later on we'll make'em double tubed, and even merge them or something; and I've made the "neural-blobs" as a thermal with a overly big neural node (or cell, or whatever it is now). I don't really know how to draw the hormone thing, though.
>>27942974A new means of reproduction appears, in which the child's is like his ancestor (>>27876766 , or more recently, >>27914884). THis way, the off-spring can search for a suitable place to live. This new (and sort of successful) way of reproduction, plus the lack of predators, makes the beachworms' population oncrease at a steady rate, completely filling the beaches
>>27966637I doubt that such rudimentary organism could form very complex neural networks.Basic ones that organize the workings of the colony. There is no real evolutionary need for more complex one.
How strict is the one post-one image rule? I would love to contribute but I can't draw for shit. If somebody would want to compliment a post with a picture of their own, would that be alright?
>>27971182An attempt is always encouraged, it's more to make it obvious what change you made rather than have a nice picture.
>>27969478Maybe filter blobs could branch to "factory-blobs" that make hormones, or increases/decreases the amount of oxygen carriers at blood and such things.That would force the need of some control, something like "The factories alreadyhave the oxygen needed for blablabla reaction, now we need sulfur. Make some filter-blobs at the volcanoes". Although I still don't see any use at those hormones or whatever those factory-blobs could make...
>>27948887> image not drawn to scale.The need for speed and maneuverability causes the microsharks to develop shorter bodies, complete with internal "breaking points." They may or may not taper towards the back end.>>27962414
>>27971690That looks like a flying disembodied vagina.
>>27914884>These are still around, right?Because of their small size, some of these poolworms are sucked by >>27939702 into the blobs' colony, were they "live happily ever after", feeded by the blobs.
Some of the really, really small poolworm guys (>>27914884) end up inside the Microsharks (>>27948887) and (>>27971690) but manage to survive by burrowing into the surrounding cells. Here they begin to act as parasites, absorbing some of the nutrients from the Microshark. When the Microshark "reproduces", some Sharkworms remain in the new individual.
>>27971774>>27972659As much as I love the idea of my little poolworms going parasitic, I think there's a scale problem.Poolworms are shorter versions of the same fermentation tubes that spawned the microsharks. They should both be roughly the same size, maybe not length but diameter. They certainly don't fit inside the sharks en masse.Maybe I missed something, correct me if I'm wrong.
>>27939821Some of these begin to burrow in pursuit of rust eaters >>27929243 and poolworms >>27966964 as well as some strains of hot-reefs >>27943359The more eager ones are often stranded in their mini caves at low-tide.
>>27973264In my head the microsharks have been slowly getting bigger. Mostly because the small ones are eaten by other microsharks.
>>27973264According to:>>27916045>The shells on their passengers thickens>>27948838>Intra-species conflict by microsharks weeds out those with thinner and/or weaker moeshield shells. The shields develop thicker skins.We can asume that microsharks have been growing in size since the times when they were just threads.Also >>27973352And for the blobs:>>27934575>As the deposits increase in size to keep more food, so does thie force when pumping that "blood" they keep. As pressure increases, the other blobs (and the conduits) must grow stronger, resulting in a general growth of all the colony. They might have been growing a lot lately. The last time size was mentioned:>>27935008>An average pump-blob is now the size of a chickpea, but a pump road can get to the diameter of an arm.
>>27973424Sweet. Go poolworm!
>>27973424sorry for being retarded, but whats the yellow stuff inside the microsharks? alchol? do they still need that stuff?
>>27976291As far as I know, microsharks are actually swimming fungi coated by what amounts to cyanobacteria. Maybe like a mobile lichen.
>>27976380alright then LETS DO THIS SHIT>LEEERRROOOOYYYY JEEEENKKIIIINNNNSSSS
in order to to get food digested faster, some microsharks start developing small hard deposits of <insert mineral here> towards the open ends of their body to help cut their food into smaller bits
>>27976549do ya'll want me to cont with my evolutions or wait for everyone else reply?
>>27976635Nature waits for no man. Evolute away.
>>27976549Great, so now the flying disembodied vaginas have teeth.
>>27971701Oh shit!>>27976549Vagina Dentata!Also, I suggest calcium. There should be plenty in the water and we know that microsharks, like the tubes they decended from, are able to assign specialized cells wherever they need them. A calcium filter cell could probably do the trick.
>so it begins...
>>27976950A filter cell that develops into a pouch like >>27914742 's anchor when it's full could indeed give the killer fungus teeny tiny teeth.Scared now...
>>27976549in order to better sense moving food around it our little microsharks develop subcutaneous vibration sensors to better "see" whats around them
>>27976635Feel free to evolve some other creatures as well.
>>27977289let me make sure i got all the creatures down firsttheres the microshark which i already am doing, the poolworms which has one variant thats a parasite on some microsharks and another variant that makes food somehow in tidal pools, and the blob colonies which feed off of alcohol pools (where are those from?)
>>27977470There's a mostly complete chart here: >>27956939Anything not listed as extinct (and some that are, I liked the moeblobs too much) here>>27909938 is a viable option.Fermentation chains make booze pools.>>27934585
>>27977213thanks to their new sense, microsharks are beginning to burn themselves out without enough energy, so in response they deevolve the feelers(?) at the beginning of their body and begin developing enzymes at the back of their bodies to digest food more efficiently and to keep the things they eat inside their stomachs they have a semi-permeable membrane to hold it in. during all this time they are growing continuously, the biggest reaching to 3 ft long, these are extremely old ones that are starting to fall apart because of age
cmon guys evvvvooooolvvvveeeee
Rolled 4>>27976291That is how they "eat" as with a lot of things it seems
>>27978664microsharks eat other blobs now
i dont want to over evolve my microshark, other people, I WANT YOU TO MAKE THE OTHER BLOBS MORE KILLY OR HARDER TO KILL>plz more killy for muh deathworld
>>27978772They've always done that. It'd be retarded and counter intuitive to have a race of cannibals.>>27979415I would evolve some things, but when I started the thread I also decided I'd make things more or less Laissez-Faire. So guys, pay attention to everything. But still, every current branch of creature had evolved from one tiny little ball thing, so basically every creature is just an offshoot of the same ancestor. I wouldn't mind that every 'animal' on the planet evolved from the same line, so you can go ahead and make like five offshoots for the microsharks just to fill niches.
>>27979576so they use the alcohol to digest other blobs?
bumb, cmon guis DEATHWORLD
>>27979723Not as far as I can tell. Actually, it seems that digestive acids haven't been evolved yet.
>>27980843how would you go about evolving this? microshark guy here
>>27979415You can evolve more than just one creature.
>>27980892but then ill just end up creating things that are impossible to catch up to and also, im just one person! its no fun to play this by myself
>>27917216Some of the larger cells would begin to engulf the smaller oxygen-burning bacteria. They freefloat in the shallower waters, harnessing heat and metabolizing oxygen.Eukaryota, fuck yeah!
>>27943359Some strains of the coral-like organisms begin turn their membranes into envelopes carrying a toxic chemical cocktail, forming pseudo-nematocysts.
>>27961385>>27966637Does the blob network have any means to defend itself now? Because these microsharks are starting to get a little nasty, which is definitely an evolutionary pressure.
>>27983132I think right now the blobs' defense tactics consist of being chewy and bitter. Also growing fast.
>>27977815as the microsharks feel the need for more food, they evolve better psuedo-fins to have better long term movement and faster bursts when they need it>pic incoming, along with some other things i came up with while trying to sleep
>>27983351also didnt say i was doing this but i made the top part of their bodies darker colored and vice versa so prey creatures cant see them as well
>>27983470in order to better circulate the energy created from food, a primitive circulatory system is pt in place, propelled by the microshark moving through water
>>27983474If you're doing that it's darker on top for preds and prey looking down, lighter on bottom for preds and prey looking up.
>>27983595meant to say that, thanks
>>27983474Why not make the whole thing transparent so it's near invisible from every angle
>>27983635Why do you think something like that has almost never happened in real evolution?
>>27983635II suppose but that won't work if it gets any larger than a minnow.
>>27983539these enzymes create a gas which propels them at incredible speeds. When close to the surface of the sea, they can skip across the water
>>27983539another species branches of without >>27983831mutation. They now have more hydro-dynamic fins
>>27983877forgot pic again, I gotta wake up
>>27983649they can get up to 3 ft long
>>27984252but what are they like in terms of diameter?
>>27984285i was thinking about half a foot, maybe more
>>27981510some of the nematocyst coral begin developing extensions of their nematocysts to increase their reach
>>27983883in response to other variants of the micro shark, one develops more and longer teeth to be more killy
>>27983838fart sharks under-antennae things become fins
>>27984514some of these begin developing longer, airfoil fins to extend their airborne time to avoid their toothier cousins
>>27984306The fuck? Last time we talked about size they were barely visible.Remember, this thing started out as a fungus. What is it now, exactly?
>>27966964As beachworm population booms their habitat becomes crowded. They develop pouches to store water from air, high tide and shore spray, which allows them to settle further inland. Because there's no predators around the beachworms also tend to get smaller as the little ones require less energy to sustain themselves. In some cases the swollen water bags are the largest and only visible part of the worm.
>>27984928Forgot the pic.
Ye gods, these things are hideous!Do More!
>>27966637Neural signals from a blob are wave-signals unique for each blob, allowing the colony to know which blob needs food. As colonies grow, a chaotic mixture of signals form, limiting the size of colonies.However, blobs with a bigger neural node have special signals, recognizable from other similarly developed blobs, and with faster velocities. These "Neural-blobs" (red), which were capable of organizating the colony through hormones, start to "communicate" and creat a network of "contacts". Something along the ways of:>Tom, I have a fuckload of hungry blobs here!>Sorry, I'm dry, and busy. But I'll ask John>Thanks!(But both more primitive and blob-like)The other blobs slowly start sending their signals to the neares neural blob, as it is a faster way to get food and is more likely to result. This makes everything more organizated, which allows for bigger colonies. (See pic. Each colored zone is the area of influence of a neural-b.)Also, with the hormone control, the new sense of stability for "buildings" that blobs have (>>27960226) and a more dedicated nucleum for neural signals and DNA, allows neural-blobs to store info of succesful architectures, and repeat these when needed. THis allows for more eficient colonies (See the pic, the volcano thingie. Pink = thermal-b. mesh, Violet = filter-b. mesh).>tl;dr-Improved Neural-blobs, made more sociable. Created Facebook.-Improved organization. Bigger colonies.-Improved structure. More efficience at colonies.
>>27983132They can constrict conduits and close valves to prevent blod loss, and they became sort of poisonous:>>27960226>As a result of filter-blobs (violet) catching all sort of things, new minerals have been added to the blood...>...dwarf-funny results...>...colonies inmunne to the new components (Which still are lethal to others, like the deep amoeba >>27916089)Also, you have a slight chance of getting parasites...
>>27983474>>27983604>>27983635>>27983648>>27983649You know, there's a lot of creatures with eyes since the moes died...
>>27954480The scavengers gain increased mobility as this helps it reach dead matter and nourishment quicker.
>>27987103And those weren't even close to actual eyes. They were more like the red dot on this.
>>27906440>>27921466In danger of dehydration/lift-off, some of the cells in the moeballons develop colapsable organelles, granting them the ability to contrict, which releases some of the trapped gasses. This is generally triggered by the cells begining to dry out, and ended when they have received sufficient moisture from the cells below the waterline.
>>27917216From the symbiotes in which the oxygen-burners are dominant enough to avoid being engulfed, a la >>27981125, a multi-cellular organism begins to emerge.The heat-seeking organelle from the oxygen-burner penetrates its sibling cell to lead the organism, and the protective casing becomes a streamlined coating across its top.The resulting organism seeks heat as a catalyst for its aerobic respiration, and as a way to find potential proteins produced by other cells.
>>27987896Flyshark attacks cause the moeballoons to grow "sails," effectively partially disconnected sheets along the sides of the balloon structure. Some of the constricting moes allow these sails to open and close.
>>27986891With new and more efficient ways to catch chemicals, these sustances hava a higher chance of leaking into the colony, mixing in the blood and killing blobs. Soon, another circulatory sistem forms, adapting the secondary conduit (Let's get into >>27961902 ) and one of the pump-blobs' conduits. This system is just a way to get to otherfilter-bobls, that will do the job.Similarly, deposit-blobs adapt, and now have two chambers, one for each mixture of components. This increase in size forces, again, other blobs to grow bigger (a deposit is like a small tangerine now).Because of the extra work that some groups of filter-blobs have todo, these evolve into factory-blobs: Big like a deposit-blob, processes what he gets from the circulatory system, but he doesn't filter the surroundings. They make more or less hormones as comanded by neural-blobs, who develop better "senses": How low/high is some compound in the circulatory sistems, to regulate it, as an example.The filter-blob's chemical processing capabilities decreases, becoming a "gate" between the colony and the outside world, taking what they can take profit from, and expeling the bad stuff.>tl;dr:-Two circulatory systems: --Blood (Food, oxygen, hormones) --chemicals and waste-Deposit-b. and pump-b. adapted.-Filter-blobs brach into factory-blobs. Factory-blobs do the dirty job commanded by neural-b., filter-b.s just filter.Also, I made a chart. Enjoy overcomplexity!
>>27989028You are great for doing that. I want a game with something like this.
>>27989028Ups, some errors I made: The deposit blob should get an orange arrow too, so does the filter with a brown arrow, he takes the trash out.Also, I've ben meaning to ask: Has this thread started to be archived somewhere?
>>27989169Isn't every thread archived?
>>27989273Foolz.us. They archive every thread on select boards, but dump images every few months.>>27989169I archived this on suptg a few days ago.
>This fucking threadI love you guys.
>>27987276Being aggressive, quick and durable pays off. Surviving scavengers becomes faster, and tougher, the feeding parts become centralized.
>>27989169Wow, this is really starting to get complicated. Eventually, the blobs shall rule the oceans! Well not really; they'll probably fill it the same way zooplankton do on Earthly oceans though. The blobs would probably be a major food source though. I mean, when a colony dies, there'd be this massive clump of semi-solid matter just floating up to the surface and somewhere along the way, it gets inevitably eaten by a microshark. Then the even luckier ones get swept into tidepools or even to what little land the world has to become a sort of proto-soil.
>>27989876Oh yeah and guys. Remember that what you're evolving is a single celled organism. Unless they swarm into massive clouds, I don't think they'd be very aggressive anything.
>>27990219I think out of all the creatures in this thread the blobs are my favorite because of how technical they have gone.
>>27984432In response to blob colonies becoming bigger, microsharks start becoming smarter in order to kill the larger food better, they create a pack whenever killing one of the large blob colonies, this requires a basic brain and as a byproduct, a very basic nervous system
>>27990230Yes, I agree, it's not a intellectual aggression, more like "being able to sense stuff to eat" and not dying when try to get to it.So the scavengers just mindlessly move towards food and decaying matter, and those that survive are the ones that don't get killed in the progress i guess.Cell body gets bigger over time as it evolves.
Primitive, and still reproducing through fission, some of the scavengers have freak mutations that half splits and fuses two cell bodies.
>>27991290How is this beneficial?
>>27991377Might be the first step to multicellular, I guess
>>27991396I'll let it slide for now, but you're breaking rule 3.
>>27991290Oh shi... You are about to totally fucking take over the planetInb4 hominids everywhere
>>27991396Indeed, the mutation becomes part of the parent over time, starting the road towards being multicellular. I guess this is how stuff works.
>>27991418Oh, I am sorry, was looking at the wiki about how multicellular creatures developed, and freak mutations is a hypothesis.Sorry about forgetting about rule 3, and thanks for letting it slide.
>>27991598This is not exactly as it works but continue.
Being eaten by >>27879288 and >>27916045makes sure only the quickest scavengers with the strongest tail flagellum have any hope of surviving an encounter.Being blind and primitive is a real problem.
I also wonder what the microsharks are exactly. Somebody took a tiny fungus and turned it into a fish with huge teeth and a mini brain... that's not how evolution works.
Light/heat sensitive organelle form, allowing the scavenger to dimly notice the environment around it.This sometimes allows it to notice predators, and being able to "see" is a great advantage.