"I know. It might not seem that way, but.... when Assassin took off, my first thought was to follow him and finish the job. But that would've left you three to vulnerable because I would need to take a Servant with me, and then there's the fact that we didn't know if those knives were poisoned at the time."".... So Rider went instead?""Rider. Who has shown herself to be largely more competent, is significantly faster, and has a freaking Pegasus to call upon if things start to go badly." I respond easily. "Her odds of surviving alone are significantly better than mine, if only because she can turn intangible at a moments notice."She spends a long time thinking about this, before she relaxes a little bit. ".... That does make sense. Sorry Sempai.""You don't have to be sorry for caring." I tell her, sighing as I do. "Honestly, sometimes I make less than ideal choices in the heat of the moment. Sometimes even the best plan doesn't end up helping."".... Berserker?" She asks slowly and I flinch, and she surprises me with hug. "You couldn't have done more than that." She tells me, quiet and firm before she lets go and looks back at the stove. "I'm going to see if Neesan is going to eat." She says as she takes off the apron. "Rider should be back before long, so I guess we'll see what she thinks when she gets here."I watch Sakura gently rouse Rin, and the two of them start to move towards her bedroom for a clean shirt. As the sisters depart, Saber and Ilya fall into quiet conversation, with the occasional glance in my direction.[ ] Confront them.[ ] Ignore them.
Rolled 19, 3, 20, 6, 7 = 55>>28426034>[ ] Confront them."You girls aren't doing a very good job of hiding your intent. Whats up?"Not forcefully though. Like, call to them while prepping.
Threadly reminder that the updated Ebook can be found at http://pastebin.com/kbGzcbDb>>28426034>[X] Confront them.
>>28426034>Confront, but carefully.>>28426125Someone left their dice on...
"What's bothering you?"
"So...." I begin, leaning over the counter as I look at my Sister and my Servant. "What're you two talking about?""Nothing." Ilya responds evenly while Saber flinches."Nothing. That also involves whispering and watching me when you think I'm not looking." I retort, with only a little bit of sarcasm."It's not like that...." Saber begins, seemingly hurt as Ilya nudges her in the ribs."We're just concerned for Rin." Ilya tells me calmly. "Especially given how much that gunk was affecting her before I pulled it out."".... How badly?""She said things like how it made her feel cold, like an anchor was tied to every limb, weighing her down, and like the color and joy was slowly being drained from the world as she stood there." She frowns as I look away from the stove entirely to stare at her. "She was already feeling a lot better by the time we arrived, and I would think she's going to recover fully. And soon, since it wasn't with her for long."".... I feel like there's a 'but' in here somewhere.""Well.... sometimes things like this leave a mark." Ilya says slowly. "Like..... having a loved one die, or healing from a terrible injury. Even after you're completely better you might have a little bit of a scar." She looks at me, suddenly startled as she continues. "T-that said, I don't think it's going to be too serious. She only had it in her for a few minutes, and it was mostly just concentrated despair. That's actually really easy to cure if there's any lingering side effects, just.... you now, friends and family would help a lot.".... I slowly let out a breath that I didn't know I was holding in, and I see Ilya seem equally relieved.....Saber looks between us, and frowns, but then moves to set the table as Ilya goes to clean up.>Actions?
>>28426374Ask Seibah what happened before we arrived
>>28426374Headpat Ilya, comforting pat on Saber's shoulder.Ask them to help setup for dinner and say we're going to go and find the sisters.Then go find them. Getting a little concerned for Rin.
>>28426374I feel like she's not being totally honest with us. For now, head pat. I'd like to question Saber privately later, though, as well as Rin.
>>28426374Consider deeply the implications that we had the same shit deeper and longer and felt absolutely nothing.
>implying implicationsNo Shirou, you are the despair.
>>28426481>>28426485>Rins shit completely wrecked by weird gunk.>Shirou just tanked a worse sample with no negative consequences.>"Hey, why wasn't Shirou hurt?">"Is he just that much stronger willed?">"OR IS THAT HOW HE FEELS ALL THE TIME."And here I was, NOT becoming an alcoholic.
>>28426550We are an empty shell.
>>28426529Oh my gosh, I was wroooong! I was Avenger all alooooong.You really made a monkeyYes we really made a monkeyOh you really made a monkey out of meeeeeeeeI love you Dr. Zaius!
>>28426529>>28426550And then Shirou was made out of Grail mud all along.
>>28426374Ask Saber if the effects were also lingering to her via the Master/Servant connection.The gunk might also be partially responsible for Shirou not being able to re-establish contract with Saber, so who knows if it'll affect Rin that way too.
>>28426374>just.... you now, friends and family would help a lot."Go find rin
So, who gets to be the human sacrifice to summon the grail this time around?
>>28426950QM curse, at its worst.
>>28426950Fucking lol'd, well played.
>>28426928Well, Shinji has been MIA since who knows when. Avenger and Gil has him though, so it may not go in that manner, judging from how Avenger does things.Dunno what's up with Zouken. Maybe he'll make do with anyone else or something...
>Sorry about the delay.>Laptop died, and then insisted on installing updates before rebooting.>Can I get a quick consensus on what to do?
>>28427018Head pat Ilya, go find Rin
Rolled 13>>28427018>Sacrifice AC-Guy to summon Grailand>Headpat Ilya and Saber, Find Rin
>>28427018We'd like to offer your body as a living sacrifice to the Grail.Other than that, we want to chat up Rin as to her feelings about touching zettai zetsubou incarnate and ask how bad it is that it didn't effect Shirou.
>>28427018Go comfort Rin with our dick
But if we sac him now, how will quest end?
>>28427120In blood and tears. So like it would have otherwise.
>>28427120Maybe we can get the original QM to come back?Oh god please no
>>28427120Grail-kun returns triumphantly only to rage quit in the third thread.Hey AC-Guy, think Mooch would like running this?>>28427129Elegantly put.
>>28427120>how will quest end?My money on Shirou having to kill himself to prevent end of the world or something equally bad
>>28427120Shirou and Avenger merge back into a single being, the grail gets purified and we wish for all the servants to gain a flesh and blood body once more. I can dream right?
I kill the stove, leaving the pans and food to simmer out, and walk towards Rin's room.I arrive hearing some hushed conversation inside the room, but it's rather... indistinct through the door and wall. Also, eavesdropping is rude, so I knock gently on the door. After a moment of silence, I hear Rin's voice bidding me to enter, and I do.Inside, the Sisters are sitting on the edge of Rin's bed, apparently having just finished talking. When she sees me, Rin sits up straighter and smiles. It's tired... but genuine. "Lunch is ready then?""Yeah...." I smile back, as Sakura slips by me to set the table. "Feeling better?""A lot better." She answers, slowly standing up. "Every moment that passes is an improvement." She hesitates, seeing the look on my face. "It... it was bad. I couldn't even tell how much it was hurting me until it stopped. " She closes her eyes, and takes a deep breath before continuing. "But..... it's gone now. I'm better again.""You're sure?""If it was despair then the worst thing I could do is sit and pity myself." Rin opens her eyes, and smiles almost mischievously. "After all, we have a war to win, and I'd love to show Zouken what it feels like to drown in regret.""No argument here." I tell her, and we start to walk towards lunch. She always keeps withing arms reach of me, but wants to walk on her own. I allow her the space, but.... "Was it really that bad?"She hesitates, before looking at me concerned. "Shirou.... do we need to talk about this right now? I mean....." She seems conflicted, like it's too fresh a wound."No, it's just..... When it happened to me, I didn't feel anything. I was just wondering what changed." I look up to the sky and sigh. "I mean, is it the demon thing? Did Assassin make it worse somehow? Did I just get a lesser dose." I turn to look at Rin, and realize she stopped walking several paces before I did.".....What do you mean 'when it happened to me'?">?
>>28427535"I never told you that yet? And neither did Ilya?"Yeah, time to sit down and talk about our encounter with that Diarmuid Alter.Alternately, SIMAC ALERT! SIMAC ALERT!
>>28427535"Thats why me and Ilya recognised what you got hit with.I got tagged by one of those before and she helped me get it out too."
>>28427535Remember when I fought that shadow thing right before Arcueid showed up? It poisoned me
>>28427535Can we get a reminder for those of us that forgot this incident? Is this talking about that time at the school when a shadow tried to gank us?
>>28427535"You know, maybe I should write reports to you"By the way>I kill the stoveIn the universe where you can literally kill inanimate objects, that sounds...
>>28427644>Shirou uses Trace to kill all kitchen appliances in his house when he's done using them, and fixes them when he needs them in the same wayI know how to keep the women out of our kitchen, guys!
>>28427644>Turn of phrase, or at least it is where I live.>"Kill the TV" means "Kill power to TV" aka "Turn it off".
Rolled 5>>28427692THIS STOVE THIS STOVE THIS STOVE THIS STOVE THIS STOVE THIS STOVE THIS STOVE THIS STOVE THIS STOVE THIS STOVE THIS STOVE THIS STOVE THIS STOVE THIS STOVE THIS STOVE THIS STOVE
>>28427610Yep.A fake Lancer (not Cain, not Arc; 4th War but Alter version) got lucky heh and nicked Shirou with a spear and the injury bled with the same despair tainted goop.Ilya removed it later when Shirou met her by sucking it out of the wound.It now begs into question whether True Assassin absorbed that Diarmuid Alter at some point, or if he acquired it through other means.
>>28427535To move this along, I support these:>>28427595>>28427599
"Yeah, you didn't know?" I give her a concerned look. "That's how Ilya recognised it and was able to help you. Remember that time when I met the Fake Saber and then I ended up poisoned?"Rin nods slowly and then freezes. "It took almost an hour for someone to cure you."".... Yeah.""I was only affected for about ten minutes.""Yes?""And it didn't do anything to you?" Rin asks, eyes like she focused on something important and terrible a thousand miles away.".... I didn't notice anything....."Rin stares at me, and as our eyes meet.... something seems to click. I stand there confused as she takes a handful of shaky steps towards me, before wrapping her arms around me with a surprising strength."...Rin?"".... Shirou, I don't want you to panic, but that is the single most concerning thing you've said or done since the war started." After a moment, she lets go and tells me that we're going to have to investigate what that might mean before we sit down to lunch.>Anything to talk about, plans/topics/etc?
>>28427955This idea again>>28426430
>>28427955I think we should come clean on Red Archer.Also, make sure everyone knows Gold Archer's true identity.Lastly, ask Sakura if she's had any contact from Zouken recently.
Rolled 16>>28427955>eat>attempt to understand just why Rin should be concerned about something as trival as his own feelings
>>28427955Man, this is a depressing thread.
>>28428037What were we allergic to again? Concern?
>>28428011>attempt to understand just why Rin should be concerned about something as trival as his own feelingsPerfect
>>28428075Yeah, I think we have an aversion to concern, self-preservation, and selfishness.
>>28427955Yeah, let's go ask Saber how the encounter unfolded.And since Rin might still be too distraught about it, maybe ask Saber if what Rin was feeling bled off into her via the Servant connection?>>28428010>Lastly, ask Sakura if she's had any contact from Zouken recently.I want to broach this topic too.Seriously, we should've finished off the old worm already.We can pretty much negate his key pawn by saturating him in Rule Breakers and break the connection before he can use his Command Seals to buff True Assassin with bullshit powers.
>>28428010I think no to the first and last, the first is need-to-know only and the last is deeply personal.All for telling everyone about Gil though.>>28428075Other people caring about him.
>>28428075The sympathy of others causes us physical pain and occasional vomiting. It's already happened numerous times.
Rolled 6>>28428010Not infront of everyone.The last one needs to be done privately.
When DID we last converse with Archer? Not just feed him confusing messages through Issei?Is Assassin the new grail and he eatsed Bahsahkah and Aacha?
>>28428010>>28428150I'm pretty sure we already told everyone about Gil.
>>28428243Someone called him Gold Archer recently. Forget who.
>>28428235>When DID we last converse with Archer?I think it was when he bailed us out during Gil's attack? Shirou was with Rider then, if I'm not mistaken.
>>28428272Wait, didn't we visit that camping site DreamGuy told us about? I'm almost sure that's where Archer is
>>28428390We haven't gotten around to doing that yet, actually.It's a little hard to explain to the rest of the team as to why we should be going there, since we still haven't revealed Merlin's meddling to anyone else.I think Avalon's there, or a sword.If all else fails, use the "Spooky Magic" card as an explanation.
>>28428437Shouldn't Avalon still be inside of us?I don't see Merlin being involved going over well with Saber.I got the feeling that she didn't like him very much.
>>28428437Well DreamGuy established connection to Shirou, to the person who's camping in the mountainsWe're not ShirouArcher is ShirouErgo, Archer is there. And since he's on his own, that'd make senseWe should just quickly Pegasus Express there and back, under of premise of scouting
>>28428497Hm, Rider would be a good way to get there. Sakura is too timid to question Rider over a brief or incomplete summary of the "scouting."
>>28428480>>28428437Relevant.34th verse, interrogating Merlin:>Where is Avalon? I don't seem to have it. "... What do you mean You don't have it? If you don't have it, how is the magic affecting you?">What is the Sword named 'Folly', and why is it inside me? "... Alright, I honestly have no idea what you're on about." >Why am I able to heal impossible damage? / Who is receiving my wounds and why?"Avalon. Or it should be anyway.">"Dude, Saber doesn't sense Avalon inside me and I don't have any idea where the fuck it is. Are you sure that Avalon is the one healing me or is this one of the things that went wrong with the plan?""I can feel Avalon. I would know, Avalon is affecting you somehow."
K, so if Riders back for dinner, we have a scouting mission. What else?
Guys, what if we're Savior?That would hit a few spots:1) We're hell-bent on helping people and Avenger called our existance "a dream come true"2)Also Avenger sees himself as antagonist, while we're, apparently, a protagonist3)Avenger and Savior may very well be two sides of one coin: Absolute Good and Absolute Evil (created to justify Absolute Good)
>>28428576Oh. Well, if nothing else, I'm as confused as Shirou about it.
>>28428576Hmm, didn't we decide that Avenger has Avalon but we're still linked to it?
>>28428576Was that before or after we pointed out we weren't where he though we were?
>>28428621A bit before that.
>>28428583>Scouting w/ Rider>Talk to Saber privately about Rin/what she and Ilya were talking about>Talk to Sakura privately about Zouken?>Get scolded by Rin for being the embodiment of despair
>>28428674>>Get scolded by Rin for being the embodiment of despair>Come home from shopping>Walk into the living room>Rin, Sakura, and Ilya are on the couch>Rider and Saber move to block the doors>"Shirou, please have a seat.">"W-what is this?">"This is an intervention, Shirou. We're concerned about you.">"We think you're addicted to being kind."
>>28428767>We're concerned about you.ruh roh
>>28428767>"I don't have a problem!">"I can stop being kind any time I want."
>>28428799>"Oh really? I'm going to go wash the dishes, alone.">"Fine. Go do it.">...>"LET ME GO SABER, I HAVE TO HELP! SHE'S WASHING A TIN OF HOMEMADE FROSTING ALONE! WHAT KIND OF MONSTER WOULD LET HER DO THAT?!"
>>28428767>"Shirou, you must help me help you!">and then Shirou has a mental breakdown because he wants to help but doesn't want to be helped
>>28428767>Shirou, you need some time sit sit back and relax, and not worry about us. Enjoy yourself, have fun.>Hey, I know. You like working with machines, right? Why not try working on that bike to help you relax?
>>28428799>I: "Let's start small. Try insulting Rin.">Sh: "Well, uh, she's mean sometimes.">R: "Hey!">I: "No, it has to be something that isn't true.>R: "HEY!"
>>28428935It's okay, we're writing our own scene now.Collaborative quest mastering.
>>28428920>Shirou, you need some time sit sit back and relax, and not worry about us. Enjoy yourself, have fun.Like earlier today? When Ilya almost got kidnapped and Rin poisoned with despair?Let me worry ye vile wenches!
>>28428935Oh hey, it's been 70 minutes.AC-GUUUUY
Rolled 18>>28428799"Now, before we start, would anyone like some nice tea. I know how everyone likes theirs, so I'll fix it up really quick, alright?""Shirou this is exactly-""I'll be back in a few."Five minutes later Sakura curses. "There's a door in the kitchen."They run into the kitchen to see Shirou gone, but there's a kettle of tea ready along with a plate of snack with a note on it.'Sorry for having to run out like this, but I thought I heard someone in need. I'll be fixing dinner for you all when I return, so can we please drop this whole 'Concerned about me' thing? I mean, I understand what each word means individually but put them in that order and point them at me and you've lost me. Be back once this silly intervention thing blows over, Shirou'And, if not for a certain heroic spirit they say, Emiya Shirou would have left to try to become a hero. Archer wasn't having any of that though and had him back that night.And they didn't let Shirou cook dinner, again.
Rolled 9>>28428978rolling for incident
>>28428995>And they didn't let Shirou cook dinner, again.I heard this in the voice of the narrator from hiimdaisy's P4 comic. 10x better.
>>28428995>Sakura cursesSakura cursing is really cute in my head.The only thing cuter would be Ilya cursing.
Rolled 10>>28428935>>28428978Wheel of Misery, turn, turn, turn!Which of AC-Guy's possessions has just burned?>[ ] The fire is on fire.>[ ] Couch>[ ] Dog piss>[ ] This Router>[ ] Car>[ ] Dinner>[ ] Computer desktop>[ ] Bath tub>[ ] AC-Quest notes>[ ] All of the above>[ ] None
>>28429060>10Oh god why
>>28429049>Sakura cursing is really cute in my head.It's all fun and games till it hits the boiling point
Nothing on twitter, so his computer must have decided to install updates over the system 32 folder
>>28429096Didn't you see? >>28429060His EVERYTHING is on fire.
>>28429060I can't breathe.
>>28429060>Rolled 1d11: 10I laughed way harder than I should have.I certainly hope AC-Guy doesn't see this and laugh to the point of asphyxiation. Again.
Why are we letting Lancer run the quest again?
>>28429170Because the alternative was Avenger.
>>28429170Because Celts have the best stories.
>>28429192Either that, or Alt-universe Shirou with his future-self's luck.
>>28429060>>28429073>>28429092>>28429128>>28429142>>28429147Guys.Guys.AC-Guy's everything is on fire.I think we just successfully sacrificed him to the Grail.
>>28429213Or AC-Guy is become Shirou.In which case I'm abandoning this quest if I have to listen to him talking about the fire elven billion times.
>>28429096Seihai-kun!>What's wrong AC-Kun?Everything I own is burning!>You're so hopeless, AC-Kun...A few gallons of blood should put it out.
>>28429213I never liked Alaska anyway.
>>28429256But flats are adorable
>>28428576Speaking of which>"Since when "projection" became "what we believe in happens""Maybe that's because Shirou "believes" that he is Shirou, and Shirou can only do projectionI wonder if we can do actual magic
Rolled 10>>28429213Dibs on the wish!
>>28429306Belief in an ideal to make it reality is what projection is all about, yo. It's just that we're best at doing it with swords.I like to think that the reason Shirou defeated Archer in the Unlimited Bladeworks route is because his ideal of a Hero is more perfect than Archer's, which has become broken and tarnished by experience. Shirou is powered by Naivety.
>>28429369Naw, he won because he argued Archer into submission, Archer gave up.Besides, Shirou didn't come close to killing Archer, since he's still capable enough to provide covering fire for everyone in the finale.
Should we file a missing persons report?
>>28429484We know where he is. Look for the fireball
>>28429484Nah, he probably fell asleep at his computer again. If there isn't a tweet in the next week then we should start worrying.
>>28429525>implying his internet is not on fire
>>28429525>>28429535His everything is on fire. He's done for the night.The thread is already archived by the way.
>>28429525>fell asleep at his computerHas he actually done that before?That's kind of impressive. I have a mechanical keyboard, I can't imagine falling asleep on it without immediately waking up in mild agony.
>>28429554Dunno about AC-Guy, but GoldenOP does that ALL THE TIME
>>28429535If it was, his posts would be on fire.
>>28429551It's okay, We've got 177 bumps left.
>>28429554Let's see. The last few days he's been tweeting about fucked up sleep times.Also, happy with his new mechanical keyboard.There you have it, he fell asleep and will wake up in that mild agony.Which seems to be better off than usual for him
>>28429519Someone should travel there, find his almost-dying corpse, kneel above him and say "YOU GOT KNOCKED THE FUCK OUT"
>>28429662Oh? I thought it was GET IN THE BAG
>>28429721This is just AC-Guys judgement for his crimes against bearmanity
>>28429743>crimes against bearmanityTruly, the fires which constantly follow AC-Guy are the cause of the polar ice caps melting, thus driving polar bears closer to extinction.Damn you, AC-Guy.
I have a feeling that this Quest is somehow meta.What if 2012 really DID happen and the borders of the universes are starting to melt apart?AC-Guy might be turning into a literal god of misfortune.
>"See? That's another thing. You're practically covered in attractive women and all you can see is the downsides."I don't get the logic behind this. Rider, Lancer and many other keep saying like having a house-full of women that are into you is a dream-come-true, but all I can see is a shitload of complicated situations.Could someone explain this?
>>28431771Sex. Lots of sex. And tits.And at least from Lancer's perspective, lots of women to do the cooking and housework and shit.
>>28431771All they can see is orgies.All you can see is relationship issues.
It has been seven hours since AC-Guy posted.H-he's coming back, right?
>>28431806Oh yeah, sometimes I forget what times they're fromBut didn't someone from present also note something like that? DreamGuy, I think. But he may be Merlin
>>28431837Dream-guy is indeed Merlin.
>>28431843I thought as much. Although he's a bit too profaneWelp, guess there isn't anyone to take relationship advice from then
>>28431818He's dead Jim. His everything caught on fire.
>>28431879How about we ask an adult? But one who isn't magic.Like our homeroom teacher's dad, what's-his-face. He likes us well enough.Alternatively, we can just decide to romance the best girl, Rin.
>>28431901His-face is RaigaIt's just I think that harem problems are too niche for anyone to be able to give proper advice on. Other than that yeah, Raiga seems to be a good shot>best girlStop right there
>>28431927Surely you have a favorite, anon.Best girl is a subjective term.Rin doesn't disappear at the end like Saber, and she isn't used goods or mentally damaged like Sakura. Objectively best girl.
>>28431901Nonsense, we've already decided on everyone-end. Rider is already on board, Rin will be easy between our metric fuckton of Rin points and Rin's well-known predilection towards harem collecting, and Sakura is a slut. The only X-factor is Saber. Of course, getting everyone on the same page while also having to deal with all the evil running around is another matter, but that's a problem we'll solve in good time.I still hold out hope that we can somehow convince Gil to be the bro we know he can be and get him to seduce Saber properly and not be a duck about it. I'm really sad we fucked up our frenemy status with him.
>>28431977I have a favorite, but I'm not tellingI just hate waifu-wars, that's all>>28432001Harem route is such a fucking slippery slope. And I think it's just wrong
>>28432001>>28432025>haremMore of a time-share, really.
>>28432001>The only X-factor is SaberObviously Rin just needs to use a command seal.
>>28432025No, serious, we've already acted on it in-character, and its fully justified with proper Shirou logic.See, it goes like this:Rider wants to fuck us, and we want to fuck Rider, and in fact the only reason we haven't fucked her is because Illya cock-blocked us when we were about to get nasty.But Rider said that if he hurt Sakura, she'll fucking murder us, and we know Sakura also likes us, and due to how fragile Sakura is turning her down would probably constitute "hurting her". To further complicate this, we've also got our obvious mutual attraction with the canon harem-master Rin.Thus, in order to make sure everyone gets what they want and not hurt anyone, we choose All of the Above. It checks out with Shirou Logic, we've actually already taken the initial steps in-character, and as players we know it at least has a decent shot of working due to our knowledge of the characters. The only obstacle is getting from point A to point Sex, which is hard despite all our advantages because... pic related.And yeah, Saber is kinda an afterthought with this train of logic, not really sure how she fits in unless Rin decides she wants her some Seibah ass and decides that ITS HAPPENING like she did in the Fate route. Worst comes to worst she can keep doing her Paladin thing and hang out with Illya or something while everyone else busy fucking.
>>28432127>the Fate routeLeast arousing three-way I've ever read.It was like pity-desperation-rape.
>>28432127How is Rin being harem-master canonAlso Sakura is crazy-jealous. She'd either be the only one for us, or not with us at all
>>28432167She'd be okay sharing with Rider, though. Extending that to Rin and Saber wouldn't be too much of a stretch.And pulling Saber in wouldn't even be that hard; just point out that keeping herself separate from the others would be detrimental to team dynamics, and that she should at least be involved in the ~activities~ even if not with Shirou directly, just for solidarity's sake.
>>28432127>>28432167>The hilarious part is that it isn't really a 'Harem' thing.>The original plan was to make sure everyone gets out alive and do something to either fix or destroy the grail.>It's just that while Shirou was putting the romantic stuff on hold, his actions managed to actually get most of the potential romantic partners interested. Which actually kinda surprised people.>So /tg/ actually managed to Shirou their way into something resembling a Harmer-route by attempting to disregard romance entirely. So attempting the seduce everyone is actually you guys running damage control for the sexual tension time-bomb you more or less founded the entire alliance on.
>>28432215That's, uh... that's a very very weird logic you got going on about Saber there.Also Sakura was jealous because of Rider as well. Remember that scene where she asks whether Shirou minds Rider's presense or not? If you tell you don't mind, it all goes to shit
>>28432257HOLY SHIT YOU'RE ALIVE
>>28432257AC-GUYYOU'RE BACKTHANK GOODNESSWHAT HAPPENED?
>>28432257>Founding an alliance on sexual tensionWhat the fuck, you guys? What did you do in the first thirty threads?
>>28432258She was also being soul-fucked by Angry Manjew at the time. You can't really take her actions in HF at face value because she was playing host to All The Evils of The World at the time, which was less than good for her mental health.If she decides to be a bitch about it that's her choice, but I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt.Of course our path isn't without difficulty, but nobody said being a Hero was easy.>>28432257HE RETURNS
>>28432257Are we going to continue, or is your everything (>>28429060) still on fire?
>>28432257Goddamn useless assassins can't even finish one fucking job...>>28432258>SaberShe had her kingdom fall to pieces because she kept herself apart from everyone else. Plus there's the whole 'it doesn't count if it's with another girl' thing.>SakuraWe've departed significantly from canon here. Sakura's dealing with her issues, has Rin and Rider supporting her, has Shirou to hug when she needs it, etc etc. She's got to be more stable now, and we've already raised the point that choosing any ONE will hurt ALL the others, and we don't want that.
>>28432308Sakura snapped only when she killed Shinji though, I take all of her actions prior to that at face value
>>28432303We Shirou'd harder than any Shirou has every Shirou'd, only to realize the fruits of our Shirouing would self-destruct if we continued being Shirou, so we invented a new way to Shirou entirely.I fully expect that Shirou has long-since forgotten that the end goal of seduction is sexual relations (except in the case of Rider, we're fully aware of her).
>>28432343If only ilya hadn't interrupted.Medea is the cutest, though. But I have an ear fetish.
>>28432343>the end goal of seduction is sexual relationsNot in this fucking case it isn't, merely ways to mitigate damage>>28432334Well when it was about leading a country, she couldn't keep herself out because she was a fucking king of said country. Here it centers around us, so the point is kinda invalidI think the only one who will be "hurt" is Sakura. Rest will either disappear or are able to deal with it
>>28432370I agreeWhich is why it's our god-given duty to ensure that she gets to enjoy a romantic honeymoon in Hawaii with her husbando.
>>28432390Why do Caster servants keep giving zero fucks about the grail war and instead falling into (b)romances with their masters?
>>28432386>Not in this fucking case it isn't, merely ways to mitigate damageWell yes, that's kinda what I mean. I should have said the NORMAL goal of seduction is sexual relations.In this case it'll simply be a humorous moment of utter shock as Shirou realized exactly what he's done at the precise moment it becomes too late to abort.
>>28432263>>28432282>Nothing too serious. I had to step away from the computer for a bit, and when I got back my internet wasn't working. I ended up falling asleep before it was working again.>I should buy a coffee pot or something.>>28432303>What happened was /tg/ decided the best thing to do was not get involved with anything romantic until the war was over, because DISTRACTIONS.>Everyone who was told this agreed that it was the logical thing to do. They also kinda made assumptions about which girl he was going to be going after in the end, while obliviously he trudged towards making everyone happy, safe, and inadvertently more eager for his dick.>The realization that they had managed to accidentally ALL the women was kinda hilarious.>>28432320>....Uh..... Not right now?>We're actually a few hours past where I would normally stop running, so I'm not sure how much of the usual crowd is even here. I'd feel really bad if one of the bros from back when I started AC-Quest came back to find out I ran at a weird-ass time and excluded them.>So I'll pick up a bit early tonight, and try and get some caffeine stocked up so I don't risk a mid-thread blackout.
>>28432411The way /tg/ frequently approaches quest romance, I thought the end goal of seduction was to inflict the maximum amount of emotional trauma by string the girl along as far as possible.
>>28432416Well at least your everything didn't catch fire.Or we didn't accidentally feed you to the grail.
>>28432416>Also, running right now would be inconvenient for me, because I need to go do things.
>>28432416You fool! Don't announce your intent to run a thread so soon!The quest gods are watching, and they are fickle
>>28432416Mate if you're actually blacking out caffeine is the worst thing you could possibly do.
>>28432416>>The realization that they had managed to accidentally ALL the women was kinda hilarious.Except Ayako.So bittersweet. That last meeting. Hope she'll be happy. ;_;
>>28432465>Hope she'll be happyExcept Merlin said that he knows for a fact that she willThe implication that having Shirou's dick is the one and only way a woman can be happy is kinda baffling
>>28432465Its ok anon, sometimes when you love something the best thing to do is let it go.As much as my dick hates it, we did the right thing.
>>28432481We only know how to give away happiness, so when we do it's extra potent.Our semen is concentrated joy
>>28432502Demon powers are a helluva drug, ain't they?
>>28432465I actually totally forgot that she existed.
>>28432459>I actually have really weird brain chemistry, so not really.>Coffee actually puts me to sleep in small doses, and the way I process caffeine actually makes me less 'awake' and more 'aware'.>It's weird.
>>28432541... so you're an alien, then.
>>28432416We're 121 post from the bump limit. I can totally keep this thread alive until then.
>>28431771/tg/ has trouble understanding love.They grew up on harem anime and think ten-timing or leading two dozen girls on is no issue whatsoever.I had that revelation when there was a discussion about dick-thinking behaviour in another quest. Turns out that many of the people who voted like that didn't even comprehend that you can hurt a person by ignoring their feelings or showing interest in someone else.
>>28429557...Guilty. Happens when your job requires you to be up at 6 AM, several days a week. Sage for offtopic.
>>28432405Because wizards don't care.They already got everything that they need.
>>28432998The flip side of that same coin is that polyamory is a thing that's existed in various forms pretty much forever.It certainly isn't the norm in today's world, but that doesn't make it an impossible fantasy.Hilariously (and depressingly) more relationship drama is caused by people expecting relationship drama than any other one thing.That said, Lancer preached some straight up truth when we talked to him >Honesty and communication is the key.That's what separates a man with multiple women from some dickhead acting like a playa: actually giving a shit.
>>28433242I feel like coming clean with all the girls will just either drop the problem on them instead of us dealing with it or will gradually make them hate us for being indecisive polygamous prick
>>28433337The girls already roughly know what we're headed towards, thanks to lancer.
>>28433373More accurately, they've been made aware of the option but aren't necessarily clued into the fact that Shirou thinks it's the cleanest solution.
>>28433431I disagree, and do not want a harem end.
>>28433450Please, if you have an option that will not result in the fucking alliance collapsing, put it on the table.
>>28433450Unless people die, its far too late.We're at the point now that backing out on either Rider or Rin would constitute full-on "holy shit Shirou what are you doing you stupid asshole".
>>28433468The only conflict is between Sakura and Rin. Saber and Rider are servants.Sakura would be hilariously easy to sister-zone. Rin is an adult and would not throw away the alliance over it.
>>28433504While I can appreciate the sentiment to not want a harem end, since normally I'm also against it.....The time to complain about it isn't this far after the plan is being implemented. We're kinda committed to this course of action at this point, like it or not.
>>28433504So:Stop treating Saber and Rider like actual women/people and throw out everything we've done with them. This despite of the goal of trying to get Saber understand that her goal is no longer worth chasing after and that she should look to finding her own happiness.Rin might not throw away the alliance, Sakura might. This action is basically handing her over on a silver platter over to zouken to manipulate. Just by teasing her with the possibility of returning her organs to her, he managed to almost get her and rider to hunt archer. What do you think he can manipulate her to do if he tangles the chance of having Shirou all to herself.Not to mention this drives a wedge between our two master/servants combinations, which has a very real chance of shattering the whole group. You reduce our combat effectiveness at a time when we need every bit just to survive against our opponents. Furthermore, the main group shatters, our side alliances with Lancer and Bazette and Caster and Sensei become even more shaky as our ability to aid them comes under further doubt.No. This is a terrible decision to make, especially at this juncture.
>>28433504Harem end is the only way to keep the thread from devolving into a waifu war.
We should ask Ilya about the meeting with Zouken in the theatre. She spoke to him like she knew him from ye olde times of creating Grail. I probably won't be here tomorrow, but please guys, do this.I should be preparing my gaming session right now, but what the hell, the thread is waiting to be continued!I've read the ebook again and wanted to share my thoughts. Probably some of them aren't new, but I can't check all the threads in archive.5th Verse, meeting Caster after weakening Rider's boundary field at school> "Just so." She says with a small smile. "It's also possible that in the act of dispelling I could divine something about the person who cast it. I've now seen or identified all of the servants, save one. Rider."> [...]> "I wasn't able to determine much." She says by way of greeting. "I do know that it was summoned by a girl wearing a blindfold. That was as much as I could get from its after image. That, and a young man with a Book I suspect to be the Master. Judging by his clothing, I suppose he's a student here."> "I suspected as much. Either a teacher or a student would have to be to have such access to the school."> Caster nods. "Beyond that, I only received fleeting images of two opposing Vampires and a nest of insects unbelievably numerous." She shudders slightly at the memory. "Evil too. In a way I can barely comprehend. Good enough, Master of Saber? Is our business here concluded?"So she's seen the 2 vampires while scrying the boundary field set by Rider? Question is, has she accidentally seen Arc and the weak vampire, or has she seen Zouken and some other bloodsucker tied with Matou?
>>2843539911th Verse, something a bit too small for Shirou to remember, but makes me giggle a bit:> "Hey Ilya." I ask, as we walk along. "You're Berserker's master?"> "Yep." She says turning to face me.> "Then why were you with Lancer that day Rin and I ran into you at the mall?"> "Eh? Lancer?" She tilts her head. "I don't what you're talking about. I haven't even met this war's Lancer."Implying she's met another war's Lancer.12th Verse, first time meeting Avenger> I find myself in the park. Apparently I crossed the bridge at some point. I'm glad there's nobody near me as I puke into one of the bushes.> It's not an issue.> I'M not an issue. Why do people keep bringing it up?> I take a seat on a bench nearby, slumping back and staring into the distance. A man in a black coat sits next to me.29th Verse, shopping with Tohsaka after lunch> I follow her, speeding up to catch her but she seems to always be one step ahead.> I start to realize something weird's happening when I arrive at the bridge. I look around, seeing nothing, and I start to reach for my phone when I hear a voice.> "Oh hey, the lure did work." Avenger greets from a nearby bench. "Wasn't sure that it would."> "Avenger." After realising Taiga's missing> I call Issei. He answers on the second ring. "Shirou? Did something happen?"> "No. At least I hope not. Have you seen Taiga today?"> "... Yeah? She had someone take over after lunch to deal with a family thing." He hesitates. "She told me you called her and she went to your house." I can't bring myself to say anything, as my mind races through the implications. "Shirou? Is this bad? Should I tell Archer or something?"Maybe we actually called Taiga, controlled by Avenger? Though the vampire supposedly wasn't his minion/slave anymore.And something is wrong with that bridge. There are runes there and it's somehow connected with at least two of our meetings with brother.
>>2843541125th Verse, Rin finds the sword in our body> "Kinda. Not as weird as most things you've been doing." She sighs. "Someone storing a conceptual weapon in their own body would have similar marks. But there would also be a clear boundary between 'person' and 'magic item'. But for you it feel like you're both 'person' AND 'magic item'."> "Isn't that like a magic crest?"> "... In a sense. But crests work differently, they're more organic. You just have a.... thing."Like if a crest planted accidentally by Archer in our body would look and feel like a normal crest. I'm pretty sure it's this.33rd Verse, after our back got broken> [Ilya] "Something about his magic is changing though. His magic circuits are a lot stronger than they were before, and more distinct. They still run along with and intertwine with his nerves, but....." Her voice seems distracted suddenly. "....how does that connect there? And what is?..... So if that's keyed into his magic.... well, that explains why he's so good at reinforcing his muscles..... Is that a damn sword?"> "Eh? you saw the imprint too then?" Rin asks.> "Not imprint, like there's actually a sword. Or at least a place where a sword would go." I turn slightly and can see her brow furrowed. ".... It's like a door."> "... How so?"> "Like he's connected to something or someone else with a sword or something. Like it's impaling both of them." She looks up at Rin. "But that's.... impossible."> [...]> ".... Well that mark has to connect somewhere. Who or what else could it be? Archer? He certainly has it out for me."> "It couldn't be him." Rin responds. "If you had a direct connection like that with him.... we'd know. It would have very dramatic side effects."Like the side effects aren't dramatic at all with our inability to make contracts and... (tbc)
>>2843542741st Verse, Ilya talks about our magic>"No. I need to tell you about why your magic is weird." She says, continuing to walk. After a few steps I resume following. "The first time I examined you doing magic, you weren't using your circuits. You were using your nerves as artificial circuits, which is terrifyingly dangerous. A tiny misstep could leave you permanently crippled. Then, you awoke your magic Circuits, and started projecting. Then you woke up different circuits, and started doing... other things."> "How is that weird?"> "Well for one, the circuits are developing much more rapidly than they should be. It's almost like scheduling puberty to happen one afternoon and be done with. There's a process there, a process you seem to be skipping over." She frowns looking at me. "Then there's the circuits themselves."> "Beyond the growth?"> "You have two sets of circuits that do different magic."We have grown a second circuit. How isn't that dramatic? Also Rin and Ilya could have excluded the possibility of it being a magic crest because they're shure we didn't get one and that we're still antagonistic with Red Archer.Meta knowledge, not usable in character: And Kirei isn't there to give us the Shroud of Martin.Seriously though, we have a connection with ourselves that also looks like a slot for a sword. Maybe it's our Reality Marble, growing fast because we just discovered it in an unnatural way?Maybe we should ask Caster what she thinks about our magic? She once said she doesn't really now the modern ways of magic, her is far different. So is ours. What's impossible for Rin might be natural for Caster. Yes, it would be very naive to trust her so much to let her meddle in our magic circuits. So it's a perfect plan!
>>2843544729th Verse again, still a talk with Avenger> "So what about the third war?"> "Wasn't me."> "... What?"> "... Trying to think of a good way to explain it. Are you familiar with Christian Theology? You know how there's God, and then there's Jesus? And how Jesus is God, not god, and God's Son kinda all at the same time?" He makes some vague hand gestures to accompany his explanation. I just nod along, pretending it makes sense.The same character, but not the servant summoned in the third war. A different instance of the same person. To confirm, we should finally ask Ilya if Einzberns summoned the Shadow of Avesta, as Cain called him. We should also tell Rin this title, maybe it'll help with researching the runes.Another thing: knowing his title we still haven't seen his statistics. Zouken also said (after killing Kirei) he's magically not a servant. Why then did he sign his first message to us with IX? 9th master? I hope those tatoos aren't all Command Seals.There's also the thing that there are two Avengers and both of them are a concern to us, though one is probably the Grail and it's not active at this moment.I need to get my shit done so I'll type the rest rough and fastZouken burned Kirei's body. Why didn't he eat it himself or gave it to worms? I'm sure he's capable of fire magic but burning a corpse feels more... Lancer style.Saber or Merlin said that Avalon is more than an object. We should ask what it is to Saber. Maybe if we don't have it physically, we have it because she considers us her Master? Maybe it's her loyalty that's healing us?
>>28435469>>28426134>Threadly reminder that the updated Ebook can be found at http://pastebin.com/kbGzcbDbThank you for making it Nubum! It makes coming back to distillate of awesomeness far easier. I've noticed one post slipped through your hands though:>44th Verse, e-book versionIlya drifts off to sleep about halfway in, and her tiny yawns spread to Taiga as well. I tuck the two of them in unconscious and am about to call it a night when Sakura kisses me."So." I begin, seeing Sakura's confused expression. "I think it's about time we had a talk about the elephant in the room we've all been ignoring.">Archieve version:Ilya drifts off to sleep about halfway in, and her tiny yawns spread to Taiga as well. I tuck the two of them in unconscious and am about to call it a night when Sakura kisses me.Cautiously, I return the kiss while glancing around the room wide-eyed. Rin looks equally confused and betrayed, Rider seems to be watching the scene with blank amazement and Saber's opening and shutting her mouth in silence while blushing heavily.I get ready to break the kiss, but Sakura does it first, as she starts to pull me down to the floor. I find myself kneeling over her, as she looks me in the eye.I try to find the words to say, but I see her blushing and looking away as she speaks first in a whisper I can barely hear."Senpai..... do you love me?""So." I begin, seeing Sakura's confused expression. "I think it's about time we had a talk about the elephant in the room we've all been ignoring."Other than that, you're awesome. Guys, if you're bored, go and read our talk with Saber at the end of the fourth verse. It's brilliant. Although I'm a bit Saber-biased.
>>28435485Last thing: AC-Guy, I don't normally criticise the writing of strangers over Internet, especially with my own 'wonderful' English, but you expressed yourself a concern about your ability to tie scenes together and I hope I can suggest something helpful (though you've already Improved a lot, comparing early and latest threads):1. Remember all the time about telling us that place is changing, we've moved to another room or another part of town. It's not always clear.2. If you have no idea how to tie two seperate scenes, don't, but use something like triple asterisk to show "the next paragraph is a completely new scene."Other than that, you're awesome. Guys, if you're bored, go and read our talk with Saber at the end of the fourth verse. It's brilliant. Although I'm a bit Saber-biased.Sorry for using this much of the bump limit. I don't get to see a thread life that often.
>>28435500/tg/ is fucking slow, so threads last for days most times. Don't worry about posting a lot
The thing I hate the most is that there are no drawfag into this quest. There are a lot of scenes that need drawing. Most of them are related to Gilgamesh for some reason though
>>28435485You're welcome! I figured an Ebook would be more convenient for some rather than going through each and every thread....And shit, you're right. Thanks for pointing out that bit! I fixed it on the word doc, I'll upload it on Sunday
Woo. Caught a live thread.For those who need it and aren't aware, I've been keeping a quest timeline. It's meant as a helpful reminder of what happened and when, rather than an all-inclusive brief, though.It's available here:http://pastebin.com/Mb3tSdHKFun fact: We've been on Wednesday the 11th of February for 5 consecutive threads, and we haven't eaten lunch yet.
>>28435762I half suspect that drawfags just hate AC-Guy or something.I mean, AC-Quest had like one cast pic done by Deculture and from how long it took him to put it out and everything, I'd almost think it was done grudgingly.I say 'almost' because I'm pretty sure he actually volunteered to do it, AC-Guy was freaking ecstatic, and I don't think any money was involved.
>>28437037"Live thread" is a loose term, here.Nice work ,though.
>>28437656I don't think any drawfags hate AC-Guy.And no, it was just that I was really busy at the time, so I couldn't draw all that much. I was happy to draw it for AC-Guy!I do remember drawing something Fate/Stay Again related that someone requested in a drawthread. Something about Kirei in Disneyland? I don't have it anymore since my old laptop retired itself.Anyway, if AC-Guy wants any art done of his quest, I'll be happy to oblige!
>>28437656Hey... I spent like 3 days making characters in paint, its not my fault I have Zero artistic talent when it comes to drawing, but i tried god dammit
>>284413354koma of people showing concern for Shirou, and Shirou's allergic reactions, please!
>>28441642Shirou is not for Lewds
>>28442646Yes, he is for stabbing
>>28429049Well, we've kinda established that Sakura is a fan of Nujabes, so having her cuss a bit seems hilariously appropriate
>>28441642Ya know, given how quick he is to troll AC-Guy I almost wonder if Decu secretly hates him or something.He pretty much admitted to just drawing whatever insanity he feels like when he gets an AC-Guy related request.
>Alright, so why the hell do you guys think Decu and I hate each other?>And what the fuck was the consensus?
>>28443752That your everything was on fire. No idea on what do though.
>>28443752this: >>28428011Not too much planning this time.
Hang on guys, Rin quite clearly showed sympathy for Shirou, and he isn't puking his guts out.maybe we're improving on this whle sympathy allergy thimg
>>28443752>Talk to Saber privately about Rin/what she and Ilya were talking about>*Get scolded by Rin for being the embodiment of despair>Talk to Sakura privately about Zouken?>Scouting w/ RiderThese actions work pretty well for me, though the second one is a bit iffy.I've taken the liberty of arranging them into a manageable sequence.
>>28444044That comes after lunch which is the current scene, though.
>>28443752It's only one guy projecting his persecution complex. I believe >>28444044 has it right.
I finish walking Rin to the table, and out of the corner of my eye, I see Saber.... giving me an odd look.We sit down and enjoy a surprisingly calm lunch. Rider rejoins us fairly soon, and after confirming no immediate problems have presented themselves we finish the meal in silence.Rin is lead to the living room so Ilya can examine her again to see if anything obvious had cropped up since she started resting. I catch saber's eye as Sakura cleans up, and she follows e into the hall."Shirou?"[ ] Ask her about the poison.[ ] Ask her about that look.[ ] Ask her about (other).
>>28441642Was Gilgamesh skating past Shirou and Saber (that look scared shitless) while eating ramen drawn yet? Or burning non-chalant Shirou? Or Tactical Espionage Action?Those scenes look like they need to be drawn
>>28444242>*led, not lead.>Fsucking autocorrect.
>>28444242>[x] Ask her about that look.Whats wrong?
>>28444242[x] Ask her about that look.
>>28444242[ ] Ask her about the poison."seeing Rins reaction to the poison makes me feel like the one kid after the joint gets passed around that doesn't feel it"
>>28444242>[X] Ask her about that look.>>28444274and *me, not e.
>>28444253Or where Lancer interrupted the 'date' ("MONGRELS!")Or Rider laughing her ass off at Shirou's trolling.Or Shirou backhanding an Axe away from his face because he didn't have time to dodge or parry.Or an artist's interpretation of the Brozerker vs Team Gil-Venger.
>>28444242>[ ] Ask her about that look.Did Shirou overlook something, I wonder?Wait, when Shirou got nicked by Diarmuid Alter, Saber was contracted to Shirou then right? I wonder if the case is different, and Saber noticed a difference?
>>28444305"See, unlimited despair is like a drug...">>28444342Or Archer doing suggestive signs at Shiro and latter flipping him offOr explosion-propelled backdrop in BerserkerOr Gilgamesh' dynamic entry into the temple
>>28444242[ ] Ask her about the poison.Like so>>28444305
>>28444342>>28444399Gilgamesh looking at the flash grenade.
"....So, uh.... what was with that look?" I ask, trying to put words to my apprehension."Look?" Saber returns, genuinely startled."Yeah, when I came back for lunch after checking on Rin. We walked in and...." I just shrug, not really sure what else to say.Saber looks away, some combination of emotions playing across her face I don't recognize. "I don't know. It's just.... the way you were looking at her when you were helping her..... it was the same way you looked when we were working to heal Sakura, and how you looked when we-" She cuts off mid sentence and shakes her head. "I suppose I thought it meant something different. Or maybe it just means something more than I thought." She then suddenly looks at me, scrutinizing and almost accusing before it suddenly softens. "..... You don't even realize you're doing it, do you?"".... What?"She merely places her hands on her hips and lets out a heavy sigh before looking to me more seriously. "It doesn't matter. Is that all you wanted to ask about?">?
>>28444813>>28444368>Wait, when Shirou got nicked by Diarmuid Alter, Saber was contracted to Shirou then right? I wonder if the case is different, and Saber noticed a difference?
>>28444813I guess we can ask if there were any side-effects that Saber may be experiencing from Rin getting tainted with despair mud.
>>28444813Ask her about the events leading up to her fight with Assassin.
>>28444813"Sooo uhhh, Whats new with you Saber?" >maximum awkward Shirou engage
>>28444813Find out exactly what she and Rin were doing while we were in the theater.
>>28444813Ask about what happened before the fight.
"Something that just occurred to me actually." I say, thinking for a moment. "When Rin got poisoned.... you felt that?""Yes." She nods. "Even as shallow as it was, it was potent. I could even feel the connection between us....." She hesitates, thinking. "I wouldn't say wavering or weakening, but..... dimming? Like looking at a light through a heavy mist."".... What about when it happened to me?""When it happened to-" Her eyes widen suddenly. "No, I didn't feel anything at all. I didn't even realize something was wrong until I saw what happened to your arm....." She looks away, thinking deeply before she continues. "I could feel it when you were hurt fighting Berserker, and things like your emotions, memory bleed....""What does that mean?""It means that if it was affecting you, I would've known." She looks at me again, expression unreadable. "But what does it mean if it couldn't affect you?""..... Demons?" I ask, trying not to sound as scared as I feel."No, that doesn't make any sense. If anything, being a partially spiritual being would make it affect you all the more." She fornws, closing her eyes. "We should speak to Rin or Ilya about this: I simply don't have the magical expertise. Whenever something weird happened I-" She hesitates, crossing her arms almost angry. ".... I talked to Merlin. For the first time, I almost regret not taking the time to learn something from him.">?
>>28445223ABORT, Steer topic away from merlin"So what happened before the fight? Why did you two steal out of the theatre and how did it end up like that?"
>>28445223>I'm sure he feels the same.
>>28445223[x] >>28445252ANGRY SEIBAH SCARY SEIBAHDIVERT DIVERT DIVERT
>>28445223Once Illya is done checking Rin out, We'll ak them about it.
>>28445252Yeah, this. No mentioning wizards meddling our dreams.Need a mission debriefing of sorts too.
>>28445223"Well, I was there at Ground Zero when the last war ended...if its something to do with the Grail, maybe I built up a resistance to it?"
What's wrong with angry Saber? She's probably not going to break our back... again
"Eh." I think, trying to think of a good way to distance myself from this topic. "It's not like you didn't have other important stuff happening.""No, that's not it." She responds, much calmer. "It's just- I always trusted him, and he always came through when I needed him to. But then when his success wasn't completely necessary he-" She sighs. "I almost wonder if he was trying to teach me something about relying on him too much, or blindly trusting in others.""No use dwelling right now." I respond, seeing her go from angry to almost sad, "What about what happened earlier? What happened between you leaving the theater and getting attacked by Assassin?""Not much." Saber responds, looking back to me. "Rin called me to keep the paired team of Servant and Magus. Apparently she suspected her Familiars were being tampered with, and went to investigate. Then suddenly several of them converged on the park and vanished at the same time, leading Rin to realize someone was trying to blind her scouts on that side of the River.""It was Assassin?" She nods before continuing."He drew a sword and charged me when we reached the clearing, and I called my sword and armor to defend myself." She frowns, looking at me. "That Assassin.... he's more dangerous than he realized.""How so?""Until I began to use the wind barrier around my sword and my other.... unique abilities, he was able to match me in swordsmanship. Without Noble Phantasms and Such, he could fight myself, or possibly even Lancer of Archer on even terms."
>>28445628".... Really?""Yes. Then again, his sword was mostly mundane: it wasn't something that could really compete with my own blade. Even if he were my equal in skill, the differences between our weapons was too great for him to match.""So he poisoned Rin?""He was trying to use the bushes to hide and stire from cover, I suggested we move somewhere more open to deny him that advantage. He got lucky with a knife while we relocated, and we stumbled across Gilgamesh attempting to pick Seagulls of the far Shore with a golf club and a bucket of balls. You already know the rest of that story.">?
>>28445634>Gilgamesh attempting to pick Seagulls of the far Shore with a golf club and a bucket of balls"Was he getting any?"
>>28445634[x] "Zouken. He's obviously done something."
>>28445634>and we stumbled across Gilgamesh attempting to pick Seagulls of the far Shore with a golf club and a bucket of balls.Oh Gilgamesh.
>>28445634"Yeah, sounds about ri- wait, back up a little. What the hell was that about Gilgamesh and seagulls?"Can Saber and Rin deduce if Assassin was powered up by excess Command Seals?Also, we need an allied Master to divulge True Assassin's stats, unless it's being magically jammed?
>>28445634"So did he make a pass at you? or did you just antagonist him for fun?"
>>28445634Welp, there we have another scene to be drawn
Rolled 1Dammit, another night I can't attend. Here are my super fer realz rolls and replies for the night:[X] Ask Ilya about it[X] Lube before insertion[X] Stab the bastard
>>28445934Not until we get the Gilgamesh trying to ride a motorcycle up a staircase, while furiously shaking itself apart.Gilgamesh provides the best scenes.
".... Wait, he was what?""Apparently one pooped on him while he was looking for something at the docks the other day, and figured he needed to come up with an adequate response.""Which apparently involved pelting them with golf balls from across the river?"She shrugs, disinterested. "I frankly don't care what he gets up to as long as it isn't trying to kill one of us." We then return to the living room, where I see Ilya rubbing a spot on Rin's back focusing deeply."I'm not feeling anything else in your system.... but.....""There's damage?" Sakura asks apprehensively, but Rin merely takes her hand and gives her a weary smile."A little. Not nearly as bad as we were afraid of though." Ilya says with a sigh. "It will probably leave something of a scar, magically. Nothing that will impede of affect her, but.....""I was attacked and poisoned by a Servant, and now everything's apparently going o be fine." Her eyes seem to lock onto me for a moment as she continues. "Looks like we'll need to find something else to worry about." She lets out a small yawn as Sakura and Ilya share a look, before reclining slightly in the living room and closing her eyes.>?
Rolled 18>>28446137I'm pretty sure that format automatically spits out 1.
>>28446198...Or not. I must have confused it with one of the other ways to fuck with the dice.
>>28446174>Looks like we'll need to find something else to worry about."Sympathy/Concern detected, initiate auto-immune response
>>28446174Contact Archer, ask him what's been going on with him. Inform him of all the assorted bullshit that's happened to us since we last spoke. Ask him if he wants to come back home.
>>28446174"I nominate someone else's problems as the next topic of group discussion
Rolled 10>>28446174Talk to Ilya about why Shirou is immune to liquefied despair and why it didn't bleed off to Saber when he was Master. For that matter, how can Ilya handle that gunk?
So much for that, then.
AC-GUY A DEAD
>>28448481He'll be back
>>28448517I just realized how much AC-Guy and Kotomine are alike.
>>28448549Kirei a shit
>>28448570I hate Kirei too, but I have to admit he's a great character, quality-wise
>>28446174>?>>28446104>[X] Ask Ilya about itFirst, why we both weren't affected?Second, what was that with her talk with Zouken (or Maikiri) in the theatre?>>28445223>"It means that if it was affecting you, I would've known." She looks at me again, expression unreadable. "But what does it mean if it couldn't affect you?"Shirou is the Grail vessel.The harem is a ritual to gain energy.Forgot two things in yesterday's theory dump:1. WHY THE HELL didn't we check yet if Saber's not in Zouken-crafted body? Everybody thinks the worm kidnapped us at night, when he tripped Rin's wards. Except it was Merlin and we only met Zouken at the church, together with Saber.2. Maybe our wish in this war is not "to be a hero" but "I don't want to die" again? We are supposed to loose our gift from Avenger and it might actually be our life.>>28446174>"There's damage?" Sakura asks apprehensively, but Rin merely takes her hand and gives her a weary smile.> [...]> She lets out a small yawn as Sakura and Ilya share a look, before reclining slightly in the living room and closing her eyes.I don't know, she doesn't feel like Rin after the poisoning. She's so... nice. I think the change might be very deep. Not necessarily bad, but significant (she's more happy she has us)
>>28448948>I think the change might be very deep.I think it's too tsun hue hue puns to be sure about lasting effects.
>>28445628>"Until I began to use the wind barrier around my sword and my other.... unique abilities, he was able to match me in swordsmanship. Without Noble Phantasms and Such, he could fight myself, or possibly even Lancer of Archer on even terms."Almost sounds like we got Ezio.
>>28450754HahNoSpeaking of which, Heracles and Lu Bu can be summoned as Assassins, according to Wiki at least. It may be one of those
>>28450791He has the mask though.All of the canon Non-Hassan Assassins don't wear masks. I'm begging to suspect his identity is weird.Think about it: he was talking about being someone important and famous, references wanting to accomplish something nobody else possibly could, and then mentions knowing Cain.I'm thinking the reason he's so scary is because he isn't an 'Assassin'. I think the dumb SOB ganked Cain and got cursed with nobody ever remembering his true name or face. So if he's an 'Ancient Hero of Old' that history literally cannot remember, it could be he isn't an Assassin so much as a Lancer or Saber with presence concealment.
At some point we should probably mention to Ilya that we have some sorta confirmation of Berzerker being alive.
>>28452789Avenger said they didn't kill Berzerk (also he'd know if a servant was dead). ya he's the bad guy, but its something.
>>28452789Pretty much. Last time we talked to Avenger he thought he was alive, and we know he hasn't returned to the Grail via Illya.Him being alive might be a very bad thing though, because if we don't have him, and Avenger doesn't have him, that means someone else has him. And we're on pretty friendly terms with everyone except Team Avenger and Team Zouken, so unless Zouken is hiding him up his sleeve for an emergency we have no fucking clue where he is or what he's doing (or being forced to do).
So, did we ever figure out what Avenger needed the vampire for?
>>28455933Maybe souls accamulation?
BUMP OF THE THIRD DAY15 BUMPS REMAIN
>>28455933Wasn't there an idea about Avenger wanting him for some other reason than being a vampire?
>>28443858or we are not ourselvesagain
Hey, so apparently part of the reason AC-Guy's been kinda flaky (other than tech issues) is that he's been slowly getting really sick. Like, puking and migraines 24/7 kinda thing.Apparently he's been kinda getting sick, and then getting REALLY bad for a couple hours at a time, and then being apparently totally fine for a few hours on an up/down cycle.He offered to let me run, but I'm really busy with family stuff ATM and I can't really commit to anything.He said he'd try and come back to finish this thread up, but after this I wouldn't expect to see him this side of Thanksgiving.News updated, Nowhere Man out.
>>28462450Tell him to go to a fucking doctor already.
>>28462484Doctor apparently told him fluids and bedrest. It's just some regular bug that's hitting him hard.His immune system's weird. He'll get shit that hits everyone he knows like it's the black fucking plague while he gets some sniffles and then turn around and have shit like this happen.
>>28462566I know that feel. I get sick - something more than the sniffles I mean - maybe once every two or three years but, when I do, it's like a fucking sickness frat party in my body.
>AC-Guy @ArmoredQuest 3m>I'm gonna try and get at least a few more posts in so it's a real full thread between the three days it's been up.>AC-Guy @ArmoredQuest 2m>So like, if anyone's still there and interested I'm gonna spike some coffee with some NyQuil and we'll wrap this shit up in like, 5-10 min.
>So what's the plan?>There's like three posts going in different directions before it ended because I was gone.
>>28446374I vote this
>>28463008>>28446374Agreed. Maybe we'll get lucky and actually get a straight answer out of someone for once (ha, yeah right).
"Hey, Ilya?" I ask, as I sit down. "That stuff..... Do you know why it's affecting Rin so much worse that me? Or Why Saber could feel it hurting her but not me?""Well, Saber not feeling it would be easy to explain. If it didn't really affect you then she wouldn't notice it affecting you." Ilya answers. "Technically, she wasn't feeling the poison, she was feeling Rin's body reacting badly to it.""Makes sense.""Yes, but not why it isn't affecting you." Ilya responds. "If anything, the dose you were hit with was more potent, and stayed with you longer. The only thing I can think of is that the sheath Saber mentioned was helping you somehow.... either that or the poison was just less effective against you.""..... How would that work?""Well, either you were naturally resistant to it, either by prior exposure or by nature..... or the poison wasn't able to hurt you in the same way. If it's an emotional weapon, it could be that you're just harder to hurt like that."".... What?"Ilya frowns at my reaction, and then closes her eyes, deep in thought. "Think of it.... like a misunderstood weakness. Like if you were born with your heart on the other side of your chest, aiming for where it SHOULD be wouldn't work. We know your perspective on things can be a bit.... skewed.... there's no telling how much something like that could affect it." She then gives me a rather concerned look. "It could also be something we don't know about but I'd rather not consider even MORE unknowns than what's already happening.""Yeah." Then I remember something. "Wait, you've been handling it too, sucking it out when we were hit. Are you-""I'm fine." She answers, startled. "I took precautions.""Precautions?""The water- I used it to conduct a type of barrier magic to keep it from affecting me when I drew it in. Same principle as wearing rubber gloves or a condom: I just put a thing between me and it so it wouldn't actually touch me when I was touching it."
>>28463580>not just saying rubber gloveSHOTS FIRED
>>28463580>Shit, forgot the 'wat do?'
>>28463684Additional question to Ilya: What's up with her OOC moment when she met Zouken at the theater?She was actually talking him down, I think.
>>28463580"Huh. Cool.So We should all be using protection from"now on, is what you're saying?
>>28463580"Condom"With the most strait Archer face we can make
>>28463794>Make a whole bunch of sexual innuendos
>>28463757This has my vote.
>>28463684Step 1: Have a minor "the hell" moment, because regardless of actual age hearing Illya casually mention condoms has to be kinda weird for poor Shirou.Step 2: Consider "is she trying to tell me something"?Step 3: Promptly disregard step 2, its clearly nothing to worry about and she's totally not trying to warn us about impending shark attack.Step 4: Keep talking about magic stuff, or something. Or maybe >>28463757. I got nothin'.
"Something else that's been bugging me, back in the theater when you confronted Zouken.... you seemed different.""I was different." She answers, almost uncomfortably. "Homunculi have a sort of connection to others in their line. So ones that are roughly descended from or connected to others retain a part or connection.""I don't understand.""It's mostly things like memory bleed through, like with servants." She continues. "So I remember stuff my mom did, and things she knew. Not all of it, or even in perfect detail.... but I'm aware.""So, when you were talking to him....""At some point, someone from back down the line apparently knew Zouken quite well. Since she knew him and how to handle things, I was more like her than like 'myself' during that encounter.">?
>>28464473>answers, almost uncomfortablyApply hugs."You're still you. That won't change."
>>28464473"Neat. Any chance she knows how to kill him permanently? Because I kind of exploded him in the face and it didn't keep him down for long."
>>28464473 /hugNow about what you mentioned about condoms
>>28464473>[x]>>28464649>>28464574>>28464518These. In that order.
>>28464473>"Did you get an idea as to why Zouken has been participating in this War for as long as he existed?"That ancestor of hers might have deemed it important, if memory and personalities bleeding through are strong enough to have affected Ilya.I kinda wanted to see how far back into the past these memories go and what else is there, but since Ilya seems to be bothered by the topic, I'll go with this (>>28464518) as well.
>>28464518Seconding this.Voting against mentioning condoms.>>28464115>Step 3: Promptly disregard step 2, its clearly nothing to worry about and she's totally not trying to warn us about impending shark attack.And then ask Rider if Saber tastes like an old worm. We can't risk having another fake body here.
>>28465068Blood checks for everyone!Wait, how will Rider know if it's them if there's no prior taste test to compare with?
>>28465105She can compare it to OUR prior test.
>>28465105Heh, how will we know that Rider, who's been hunting Assassin alone for a while, is still Rider?At least Shirou isn't allergic to concern anymore. AC-Guy is allergic to attention. Apparently a tainted Grail vessel can't stand positive feelings towards it.
>>28465517Sakura as a Master can sense if something's off about Rider.Of course, we'll run into problems of whether Sakura is being manipulated by Zouken to feed Shirou misinformation.
Calm your shadowruns.
>>28465711We're just getting warmed up for MGNQ later.!ahahaH
AC-Guy plzGet bedrest and fluid. Your schedule is insane and it's killing me and you.Come back when you're better.
I put an arm around her. "You're still you in the end right? That won't change."She blinks surprised at me, but then smiles. Rin stirs slightly to look at us. "So, you just used a barrier spell?""I don't think it would be as useful for in combat." Ilya says, rather uncomfortably."It's fine. Now that I know what to expect it should be easier to defend against." She says, yawning again. "..... You drained a lot of energy.""Sorry, I had to be sure.""Eh." She shrugs, and begins fading out again. Apparently that burst of activity was all she had in her for now.>?
>>28465885Plonk Ilya down with Rin.Go talk to Sakura.
>>28465885Time to talk to Sakura. And I'm sure Rider is with her too.First up, why is Zouken targeting her again when we already nipped that brewing problem in the bud from this end?Second, where did Assassin scamper off to when he was last sighted.Third, should we plan for scouting the clearing Merlin mentioned?
>>28465885Ask Ilya if it would be possible to do the shit Zouken did with our body to a Servant.If not, we can be sure about Rider. But Saber is a special case and still should pass a blood check.>>28465868>Get bedrest and fluid.I think that running a quest quite fits to bedrest. Unless AC-Guys notes are in 10lbs. file binder he holds constantly in his hands.Although isn't coffee a bit bad by dehydration? At least for a normal organism, but there has to be a limit for AC's strengeness
>>28465939>>28466018I think it's important to talk with her, but we might have a bug in our household. It could be very bad for Sakura if Zouken knew about us confronting her.
>>28466096Everyone start speaking in pig latin?
>>28466096We literally walked in on him when he was trying to flip her, if we DIDN'T bring it up and he's listening in he might get suspicious that something is fishy, because that isn't the kind of thing you just forget to talk about afterwards.
>>28466198But we could just check if Saber's not a bug first. Her true body might now be in Zouken's hands, in Church's cellar.Oh, always forgetting something. Is Shirou incapable of feeling emotions he shows or is it just my incomprehension? Saber has seen something in our face we couldn't get (love?), Ilya has seen some awful anger at Avenger we weren't aware of. I don't think it changes anything concerning the poison, for we haven't seen despair on Rin's face, but I feel it might be important.
>>28466378I think that since those emotions come naturally he just doesn't notice themWill we get more updates?
>>28466527I think it's my fault. The universe just loves crushing my hopes this week and I was really hyped to be able to participate in a thread (normally I'm at school when AC-Guy runs). I might have also helped triggering AC-Guy's allergy to concern.
>>28467014>AC-Guy's allergy to concernHe has one?Anyway, does anyone know what those initials at arcade supposed to mean? I think those are STR, MNW and DK-