Peter Parker Quest: Issue #28.1>Rules: http://pastebin.com/w5G3aG3Y>Character sheet: http://pastebin.com/q1AqTT5h>My twitter: https://twitter.com/QuestOpCosgrove>Archives: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Peter%20Parker%20Quest>Story Arc database: http://pastebin.com/wPKeaW7h>AGENT VENOMhttp://pastebin.com/QGhgT7xDYou should take it down. Now. But- You need to get back to base. This thing is showing new behavior, unprecedented ones. This is too close to base to try shit. Not with what you’re seeing here. Carnage is showing humanity, rather than that of a cruel, intelligent animal on the hunt. God only knows what that thing is capable of.You hurry back towards base, but as you near the base you notice something- You aren’t alone.Maybe it hasn’t noticed you. Maybe it just doesn’t care- but Carnage is headed straight towards the base. The symbiote’s biting at the leash.FIGHT KILLKILL THE ABOMINATIONYou can feel the beginning of the suit trying to shift- from inorganic armor to flesh muscles and teeth. It wants to take over.It’s pleading, fighting.>[ ]LET IT>[ ] use one of your last sedatives>[ ] Beat it to the base>[ ]Write in
>>28522887>[ ]LET IT
>>28522887>>[ ] Beat it to the baseCan't use a sedative... we might need it at the top of its game. If we're going to leave, we leave.
>>28522887[ ] beat it to the baseWe gotta wake everyone up before Carnage is right on top of them
>>28522887>Fight the abomination.
>>28522887>>[ ] Beat it to the base
>[X] Beat it to the baseWe need more than one person, we need a A team to kill carnage.Agent venom, spiderman, omega, Alice and the doc.
>>28522887>[ ] Beat it to the base
>>28522887>Beat it to the baseTell the Symbiote that we're probably gonna fight Carnage soon enough if it's headed for the base.Only our chances of victory would be increased.
>>28522887>[ ] Beat it to the baseMAINTAINCONTROLFirst rule of combat.
>>28522887>beat it to the baseREV UP THOSE WILL CHECKS
Operators gunna operate
>>28522887We're one of the ones who are presumed dead by the bunny, right?
>>28522887>>[ ] Beat it to the baseDamn it, suit, no. You're a symbiote, you should understand the idea of working with others for mutual benefit. We can fight it after we get backup. Monster vs. monster is a harder fight than monster vs. monster and his friends with grenades.
>>28522887Let it.Almost looked past this quest with the picture being different.
>>28522887>[X] Beat it to the base"Patience, Venom. We shall kill the abomination on our own terms, on our own turf, and with backup. It shall not escape our full wrath."
>>28522887>[ ] Beat it to the baseChide Venom for not understanding tactical retreating
>>28522919Assuming its the same base.It didn't seem like the Wonderland facility (for if they have Alice and a White Rabbit they deserve the stupid nickname) had any connection with the military. They might be an independent resistance group.
Rolled 1 + 4>Beat it to the baseAlright- time for you to remain in control!>1d20+3 willpower, then. DC is as above
>>28523015Still a fight like this is better with blackup.
>>28523015Well Carnage is on our trail so far, doesn't make sense for him to lose it now.
Rolled 10 + 3>>28523031
Rolled 5 + 3>>28523031Easy.
Rolled 1 + 3>>28523031okay...
Rolled 19 + 3>>28523031>Rolled 1d20: 1 + 4Right.
Rolled 1 + 3>>28523031Do critical failures apply to the symbiote?
Rolled 15 + 3>>28523031Guess old blackie didn't want it that bad after all.Thanks for keeping the hype train rolling!
>>28523044You actually lost to it.Impressive.
Rolled 18 + 4>>28523031...Looks like the symbiote isn't all that into putting up a fight?
>>28523031I forget, what happens when Cosgrove rolls a critfail?
>>28523044GOD DAMN YOU.
>>28523044Welp. Let's burn that VP to avoid FLASH SMASH
>>28523044>>28523048I sort of expected that. No surprises really.
Rolled 17 + 3>>28523031...Auto-success?
>>28523031Do ours ones auto fail since he rolled a one as well?
>>28523044God damn it. Can we say a crit fail on each side cancel each other out and we reroll?
>>28523044Are you fucking with me?
>>28523044Are you serious?Let's use a Venom Point.
>>28523077>Flash Hulks out, but it's only his face>>28523090The madness has overtaken me
Venom point used.Fucking Parker luck is getting to us.
>>28523090Seriously though, since rolling a one is the same as making a dice roll equal zero, didn't we meet the dc?
>>28523071>>28523088Agreed. Venom Point. Assuming those work the same way as Spectacular Points do, obviously.Do critical failures as other characters still contribute to Parker Luck? I'd assume they don't, but given how terribad Peter's Luck is I don't want to take that chance.
>>28523090and on that amazing note, I need to go be unconscious, I'm driving to work tomorrow instead of napping on mass transit...holy mother of fuck why is it after 3am?Ah well, good quest tonight, Cosgrove.Good night everyone.
>>28523090IT TIME FOR FULL KUBO!!!THE RETURN OF UNCHAINED COSGROVESTART PRAYING
>>28523090I can only imagine both symbiotes spasm and we just run into each other head 1st. Literally.
>>28523031>>28523044Flash and the symbiote get into a "I don't know, man, what do you want to do" loop, losing track of carnage. By the time they've made up their mind, Carnage has destroyed the base.
>>28523090>Both Venom and Flash decide fuck Carnage, lets go drinking
>>28523105>didn't we meet the dc?We're beaten in terms of modifiers alone then, if all else are equal.
>>28523119Venom and flash comfirmed for pot heads. Smoking dat weed.
>>28523044>>28523031pretty gud :DDDDDDDDDDUse a Venom Point
>Using a venom point, BEFORE an inevitable fight
>>28523148But the modifiers don't matter on a critical failure, right?
>>28523110No, let me explain how things work with Agent Venom- the more you crit fail, the more the Bond percentage goes up- 10% a crit fail.>But, using a venom point does allow a reroll, thoguh it does not remove the bonding percentage increase- that's decreased by not having the symbiote on your- for ever 10%, it takes a week.>Use the Venom point to redo the rolls?y/n
>>28523186How long will we play as Venom?
>>28523210FOREVER. THIS IS VENOM QUEST NOW
>>28523210Well, we can't go back into the past.
>>28523186Oh boy.We going to have to deal with Venom Points and Parker Luck in the future.And yes. We literally can't go freak out now.
Rolled 17 + 5>alright, then.>1d20+3, dc is this roll.
Rolled 2>>28523288NATURAL 1
Rolled 4 + 3>>28523288
Rolled 5 + 3>>28523288
Rolled 20 + 3>>28523288
>>28523288Wish we'd kept the double 1s now.
>>28523301Aren't you glad you got the dice wrong?
>>28523311Yeah. We Venom.
>>28523304>>28523310>>28523311>Point spent>Point replenishedIn the future there is a more efficient, greener points system. Completely KUBO neutral.
>>28523311Wow. I'm proud of myself. Like the 1st time I've ever rolled a 20 in Parker Quest
>>28523343Well, we got +10% bonding. Not totally a wash.
>>2852331122 VS 23WE WIN
>>28523359All we have to do is take off our pants after we morph into a minigun and cut this thing into hamburger in the comfort of our own base.
>>28523388If we have 50% bonding, we're going to need five weeks without wearing that thing to get back to normal.
Guys, about Peter - do we have his dad's hard drive on us? We could ask ROBOTS to decode it for us.
>>28523413You do not.
>>28523359that reminds me, what does bonding actually do?
>>28523413Why would we be carrying that around with us when looking for a wizard? No we only have the statue.>>28523406Ya he's not going to be much help on the magical trip to Castle Von DOOM.
>>28523428I would like to know as well, if you can tell us without an end of arc question.
>WILLPOWER OPPOSED-22,vs23(NATURAL 20- Venom Point Earned!)The symbiote tries to wrestle control, tries to turn you both into a bloodthirsty monster.You aren’t having any of it.There’s too much at risk.And the world’s got too many monsters in it already.You force the symbiote back- for all the bloodlust it tries to give off you fight back with something worth protecting. Your friends. The innocent. A tomorrow worth living in.The symbiote retreats, shamed as it hardens back into your armor as you extend a hand and shoot out a tendril that anchors itself into the building before the symbiote reels it in, drastically increasing your arrival speed. You kick on the front door- loudly. Again and again.Fucking Phil, had to go and ruin your radio.There’s movement and alarm inide. Just a little more until sunrise.>[ ]Hold the line until the day breaks>[ ]Let loose the leash on the symbiote>[ ]Get inside>[ ]Write in
>>28523413What? Why would we have our most valuable possession with us while time travelling?
>>28523442I'm guessing it makes it harder to resist the symbiote's PRIMAL INFLUENCE
>>28523474>>[ ]Hold the line until the day breaks
>>28523474[ ] Hold the lineThe others will be out to back us up once they realize what's going on.
>>28523474>[X]Hold the line until the day breaks
>>28523474[X]Go to the roof.
>>28523474>[ ]Write inSet some explosive traps. If Flash has been through the Iraq War in this iteration, then he'll have first hand experience on how effective IEDs can be.
>>28523514The game is set in current times; so Flash could not have partaken in that invasion.
>>28523474>>[ ]Get insideNeed to get this thing off us.
>>28523488Yeah, its probably this. The line between Flash and Venom begins to blur - makes it harder for either one to resist the other's desires, and the advantage of having two seperate minds working towards a problem begins to fade.
>>28523474>[ ]Hold the line with bullets until the day breaks
Why can't I hold all these lines?
Rolled 58>going to need one thing.>Roll me 1d100, roll under this result.
Rolled 23>>28523682FOR SATAN
Rolled 42>>28523682For god and countrymen
>>28523688>>28523689>>28523691Fan fucking tastic.
>>28523695Looks like my luck with those roll under d100 quests is still holding.
>>28522887>Peter Parker Forgive my lurkerness... isn't that Eugene "Flash" Thompson, the current Venom?
Rolled 20 + 3>>28523749We got perspective switched.
>>28523749Yup, that's who we're playing as at the moment
Line heldget fucked carnagehype levels for tonight are off the charts
>>28523749We temporarily switched to Flash.
>>28523749Yes.We're playing as him in a dystopian future.Peter Parker is currently having a nap. In a dystopian future.
>>28523765After he wakes up and we check in, we'll have pancakes.In a dystopian future.
>>28523760Sweet Jesus I'm sorry I didn't mean to waste thatCapatcha: puelial WandaWhat's Scarlet Witch doing anyways?
>>28523749You realize there's a link to his stat sheet with his name on it right there, right? Go read the last thread instead of not understanding what's going on and getting lost.
>>28523776And then we'll head out to meet DOOM and undo the future that is Carnage in a dystopian future.
>>28523776>Pancakes after our nap>Not french toast.Truly a nightmare hellscape
>>28523785According to tomorrow's issue of... I forget which title...She's dead. Rogue kills her.
>>28523798I don't like French toast. Can't eat eggs.How about waffles? You like waffles? In a dystopian future?
>>28523819Can they be walnut waffles? Or are we stuck with just buttermilk? In a dystopian future?
>>28523819>waffles>for breakfastWhat. Next you're gonna tell me you don't eat them with chicken.
>>28523860You are as crazy as Carnage, sir.
>>28523870Both are southerners. It comes from the region.
>>28523801I meant in the dystopian future. You'd think she would have genocided someone by now, but if she has we haven't heard about it.
>>28523845We'll have to check the dystopian fridge. I'm hoping for pecans in the dystopian future.
>>28523860>waffles>with chickenNah, get some waffles, put fresh fruits and whipping cream on top, and add warm syrup. Breakfast of the gods.
>>28523904Lol, nice one anon
I think it's clear at this point that we are getting close to breakfast time irl.
>>28523798>Peter Parker>Eating anything other than wheat cakes for breakfastBitch, do you even Aunt May?
>>28523960Bitch, aunt May is dead. She's making breakfast for worms now.
>>28523969Too soon mane.
You turn around, seeing Carnage rushing towards the gate and pull out your rifle and shoot a grenade from it at the Beast- it slows as you begin a hail of automatic fire on it. Letting the symbiote control that with a tendril, you take out your trusty sidearm and begin firing.The hail of weaponry slows Carnage who is taking every hit. It slows to a slow gait before stopping in front of you as you notice the sound of metal.Bullets drop to the ground as the holes in Carnage begin to fix themselves. Forming forearm blades, you charge towards Carnage. You just need to hold out. Just a few minutes more. You exchange blow after blow, feeling yourself weaken. The symbiote can only take so much punishment. As you knock back Carnage with one last uppercut, you let out a sigh of relief.Here comes the sun.Carnage snarls as its form begins to shrink, retreating to a human form. As it gets up, your eyes widen.“Wreeeeeeeeeeeee…”No, it couldn’t be->1/2
>>28524022>No, it couldn’t be-Refreshrefreshrefreshrefreshrefreshrefresh
>>28524022The wall in front of you crumbles as a figure flies through and into the center, collapsing. The Doktor hurries to the form which looks like some tacticool black version of your outfit before letting out a sigh of relief.Alice drops to her knees, clutching at her head and letting out howls of anguish.From the clouds of dust you hear footsteps and a quiet cry. One, then another, than another as the dust clears. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tdu4uKSZ3MThe figure walks into the room as if their presence their was a given. Your eyes widen in shock as the figure looks at you as your spider sense blares.LEFTKIDNEYRIGHTKIDNEYLIVERHEARTLUNGSARTERIESBRAINYou drop to your knees at intense warnings hit you at once causing a sensory overload.Not day older than you saw her last with her hair messily styled, Gwen Stacy smirks before pointing at you.“At last, Peter, you’ve finally appeared- the key to giving me an invincible, immortal body is finally within my grasp!“WREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”PETER PARKER QUEST 28TO BE CONTINUED>NEXT: The Fate of that Blood?
Oh man was she carnage all along or did carnage go for a newer body?
>>28524040Next chapter... FratricideThanks for running so long Cosgrove. Really enjoyed it.Have a great thanksgiving.Take it and bag it boys.
>>28524040This one is being written from Peter's perspective, right? Oh, and fuck you for that ending music, god damn I need season 2 to start.
>>28524040Well, that was a thing.Thoughts, gents?>not joestarQuiet, you.
>>28524022>>28524040Oh hey Cosgrove, just dropped in to see how the quest is progressing and--WWWWWWHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAATTTT?!
>>28524040Okay. Evil Gwen confirmed.Which, given deductions regarding arc titles, means that both Gwen and Iron Man have ~probably~ gone evil and previoussly fought again MJ (who may or may not be Alice, but is still very likely someone who has had powers of some kind).Also, next time we need to try and trick her iunto revealing original Carnage killer's identity.
>>28524064We may never know.Flash seems out of commission as does Alice. Peter better get his head in the game.archive it
>>28524040...Is it next Tuesday yet?
>>28524040YOU WERE EXPECTING MARY JANE?TOO BAD, ITS ME! DI-I MEAN GWEN STACY!>>28524064MARY JANE WATSON VS GWEN STACYGwen won.Almost killed MJ.Carnage took her over.MJ is Alice.
>>28524040OH SHIIT!!!GWEN WAS CARNAGE ALL ALONG
>>28524040>“At last, Peter, you’ve finally appeared- the key to giving me an invincible, immortal body is finally within my grasp!Well. Looks like she learned how to talk like a super villain.And Alice is looking more and more like MJ.
>>28524022>>28524040>She thinks Flash is Peter due to the symbiote having interacted with Peter as a kid.Boy is she in for a rude awakening.
>>28524114UhNo>The wall in front of you crumbles as a figure flies through and into the center, collapsing. The Doktor hurries to the form which looks like some tacticool black version of your outfit before letting out a sigh of relief.Thats Flash.That last post is from Peter's POV.
>>28524040shit just got real
>>28524099Congrats; you're where most of us where last week.>>28524040>We flying kick her ass before dropping a thermal on her>"You really don't take rejection well do you?"
>>28524114In between the first and second posts it switched from Venom back to Peter. I was confused too at first.
>>28524104It's not like Gwen being Carnage doesn't have precedence.But no, she's not the Maximum Carnage serial killer.
>>28524153>>28524104>>28524099How many Carnages are we dealing with here?Legacy character? Master and apprentice?My knowledge of Marvel only goes so far
Alright. Gwen obviously took us hooking up with Felicia WAY too hard, and I regret that.
I think you know what to do next week.
>>28524138...Oh, I appear to have missed a line.Lemme do over.MARY JANE WATSON VS GWEN STACYGwen fights the Maximum Carnage killer, who is empowered by the Carnage symbiote.Gwen wins.Carnage is at deaths door.The symbiote leaves its host, MJ, and latches onto Gwen.Later, the good doctor finds MJ, who's nearly dead and suffering from symbiote withdrawl symptoms.I fully expect Alice to go batshit crazy.
>>28524196>everything ever is awfulStraight up Kubo there. I like it.
>>28524186Me too, but still, saying Gwen being Carnage is our fault for that is like saying Reed Richards destroying Latveria is our fault because Sue wanted out. We played a role in this, but reacting with genocide is just fucking nuts.
>>28524196Nah, MJ isn't the Maximum Carnage killer, she's Shriek at best.
>>28524186We'll find a way to smooth things out when we get back. Hopefully
>>28524176Carnage is almost always bonded to Cassidy in 616. It inherited Venom's desire to stay with one person and thinks Cassidy is the perfect nutjob for it. Carnage HAS occasionally possessed multiple people along with Cassidy, but has never (to my knowledge) abandoned him for good and gone on to a legacy character. I think, now that they're bonded that it would be difficult to do so.
>>28524220Well, all things have a starting point. We may have initiated a chain of events that fucked everything up.
>>28524176Symbiotes (those living suits like Flash has and Carnage is) are sluts. They jump from host to host.Carnage starts as a cereal killer, but Venom gives "birth" to another symbiote which bonds to the killer and warps the symbiote into a crazed killer.Since Carnage in our time is most likely just a regular old killer and is egging on Spider-Man I don't think it's Gwen since she could easily kill us.I think something happened to cause her getting bound to this symbiote and it quite possibly has full control now.
>>28524241Ultimate Carnage was Gwen Stacy, sort of.We probably should have kept that in mind.
Guys. Shit makes sense>Surveilence on Gwen was not to stop anyone from getting to her>Surveilence on Gwen was to stop her from getting to anyone
>>28524229It'd explain why our spider-sense goes off around her all the time. It's her fear aura.
>>28524241Ultimate Carnage was Gwen Stacy the second time it appeared.Shit. What if Cosgrove is using both types of Symbiotes? 616 AND ultimate?
>>28524258Look.Mate.Gwen CANNOT be the Carnage Killer. Carnkill doesn't know who Spider Man is. Gwen knows who Spider Man is.
>>28524040where did you get this pic, it looks like something tekuho would draw.
So, do we try and beat her with friendship; or do we treat this like a godamn bossfight proper?
>>28524279>Implying anyone of us knows what the fuck is going on in symbiote's mindI might have erased the memories of Gwen Stacy, but I still can recall these I accessed already! The formula might be in one of them!
>>28524258Was there even a stalker, or was it Gwen using that as an attempt to get more attention from Peter?Damn, i need to restrain myself from questioning absolutely everything that's happened with Gwen.
>>28524253Most symbiotes want to jump from person to person, draining them, but Venom and its offspring are actually quite different from the norm. They want to permanently bond with someone. Venom winds up on so many people because he keeps getting rejected (explaining his possessive and obsessive behavior). Carnage found a perfect match in Cassidy, Toxin stayed with its partner until he died, as did the other symbiotes taken from Venom.
>>28524295Look, what I'm trying to say here is that THIS CARNAGE is not THE CARNAGE SERIAL KILLER THAT IS STALKING US BACK IN OUR OWN TIME.
>>28524302For what it's worth she looks and dresses like my twin sister.Going to have a hard time sleeping with this hype. This is why I buy trades, not singles. Must. Have. More.Thanks for running!
I think this story arc confirms hobgoblin status as "sideboss" threat level at best.
>>28524293Oh we're waaaaaaaaay past the point of talk working.
>>28524293see>>28524195ALL the fire
>>28524293Boss fight while quipping at her.I'm hoping we assume an almost "this is just a dream" perspective, only more "I can fix this when I go back in time"
There is, of course, the possibility that this Gwen Stacy is a clone, or has been bodyjacked by someone or something else. It's not entirely without precedent.
>>28524333Well, first off we blame Oscorp for at least some of this shit. Then we prevent Tony from going awry.Meanwhile, we gotta bitchslap Reed into not being a nuclear douchebag.
>>28524333>lashing out with hundreds of red needles>"WHY WON'T YOU DIE?!">"This isn't even a quicktime event. Also I'm pretty sure there's a gas leak because this is a weird dream..."
>>28524338She's been bodyjacked by Carnage.
>>28524338Stay alive long enough to ask a few questions.
>>28524347We don't know shit about what happened with Tony if anything.This Carnage situation... with our two ringers out of the mix, we are outgunned in every feasible way right now. We are beyond fucked in the 1v1
Considering the state of her house... There's something left inside of her. Even if her father is dead. Even if she killed her father. We should take off our mask and remind her who she's fighting.
>>28524040on the brightside, could we merge with agent venom?
Flash "I should have taken the shot, now my left lung is collapsed" Thompson
Still doesn't explain a few things.Like who's actually cloning all the Spider Clones, and why?Did anything happen to Tony Stark that made Hammer the next big thing?Can we still get to a Doctor Doom (or for that matter Felicia) that's still sane and cooperative?Oh well, waiting warmly.
>>28524293Whatever's there isn't the Gwen we know, not anymore. Whoever this Gwen was, whoever she might have been, was twisted into something unrecognizable by the Carnage Symbiote.NOFUCKINGMERCY.That being said, Peter's more than likely in way over his head on this one.
>>28524384God damn it, moot.
>>28524370The Suit probably remembers us and wouldn't mind bonding with us. Agent Venom is the codename for Flash when he's wearing the symbiote.
>>28524362Well we have one advantage.Our winning personali-pffffhahahaha yeah we're fucked.
>>28524380>Like who's actually cloning all the Spider Clones, and why?Jackal because Gwen makes him do it because Carnage thirsts for Radioactive Spider-Blood>Did anything happen to Tony Stark that made Hammer the next big thing?Hammer was always second tier after Stark in regards to mechanical weaponry>Can we still get to a Doctor Doom (or for that matter Felicia) that's still sane and cooperative?If we can survive this encounter, we have, at the quickest, a week long trek across the wasteland.
>>28524384Ah, the zombie principle.
>>28524397We traveled into the future before we ever bonded with the suit. Besides that, no mention of a Spider Sense with Flash, and he referred to the lines he shot out as tendrils, not webbing.Odds are, he's the first one the suit's ever bonded to.
>>28524040Haha, that chapter title.It's way too late for me to be singing that song out loud like a retard, dammit.
>>28524380>Like who's actually cloning all the Spider Clones, and why?Jackal, because Carnage. We know this already.>Did anything happen to Tony Stark that made Hammer the next big thing?The Avengers are dead. Or something. Maybe they're just being competitive, like Apple and Samsung or some shit.>Can we still get to a Doctor Doom (or for that matter Felicia) that's still sane and cooperative?Iunno.
>>28524404>Hammer was always second tier after Stark in regards to mechanical weaponryCosgrove.
>"G-Gwen... I... loooooove... y....">"R-really?">"PPPPPPPPPFFFFF PSYCHE! Enjoy those incendiaries I planted on you though."
>>28524380>Like who's actually cloning all the Spider Clones, and why?Jackal. Working for Gwen.>Did anything happen to Tony Stark that made Hammer the next big thing?We don't know. Stark Industries might have taken a dive at some point.>Can we still get to a Doctor Doom (or for that matter Felicia) that's still sane and cooperative?Yes? DOOM may not be the nicest guy, but he keeps his word. And he gave his word to have the cure for us when we got to the future. Now we just have to go get it.
>>28524418We don't have any evidence to the contrary.
>>28524418Didn't the symbiote taste our blood?
>>28524040>Not day older than you saw her last with her hair messily styled, Gwen Stacy smirks before pointing at you.This is the SINGLE most important part of our intel. This tells us that her transformation happens in our time very VERY soon.
>>28524445The Carnage symbiote did. Because of our blood sample. Hence why it's eating Parker clones.
>>28524446Maybe she de-aged?Maybe Oscorp did something to her?Maybe spider totem magic bullshit?
[ ]??? ???? ?? ???? ?????CAN SOMEONE FIND OUT WHAT THIS MEANS?
>>28524435>Jackal. Working for Gwen.Heh. Heheh. Hah.The Jackal doesn't just clone Peter Parkers.
>>28524443The suit CAN'T remember us, and WON'T because we haven't bonded with it yet. That's not to say we might not get a preview of what we can do with the symbiote during our foray into the future, but who knows, I guess.
Here's a thought: We bring down the fucking roof. We know this thing only comes out at night and drinks blood and we know mutants and aliens and magic are all things, so why not vampires?At the very least this will knock her down to a more skilled version of us.
>>28524463OH FUCKITS NOT GWENITS A CLONE...OH FUCK GWEN IS DEADOH FUCK FUCK FUCK WE'RE THE ONLY ONE WITH SPIDER POWERS THAT ISN'T A CLONE
>>28524463Gwen is carnage.Jackal works for carnage or else be ded.
>>28524446>>28524456Or that guy who creates all those clones created a clone?
>>28524463... hurm...Well at the least we need to move or destroy our blood when we get back.
>>28524479Or symboite.Honestly. Get her to the sun, and beat the life out of her.It matter not if she a clone or not, right now, we must end her.
>>28524479And Jackal's her stalker?
>>28524479Could be. In fact I'd believe it considering her apparent age. I don't think the symbiote can preserve its host like that. Plus, even if it could, the likelihood of the Carnage symbiote coming into being, her knowing about it, and feeding it Peter Parker's blood all shortly after we don't return from the future is bullshit.This Gwen's probably a clone. Yep.
>>28524500NoJackal is working for CARNAGETHE SYMBIOTE ITSELFHE'S MAKING SPARE BODIES FOR IT
>>28524500It fits his profile.
>>28524514I mean in the present timeline.>>28524520Yeah, it should've been obvious from the beginning...now watch that be a red herring
>>28524253>Cereal killerYou are the worst kind of person.
THE FALL OF PAST PETERTHAT THE LAST 5 PERCENT
>>28524500Still betting on Stormin' Norman.
>>28524514The murders were the symbiote feeding and body hopping.
>Some science nerd>Stalks her>Huge interest in genetics>Learns she harvests her own blood for whatever reason>Jackal makes Gwen Clone>"Finally my own clone, now I'll never be a virgin again!">Gwen gets out of control>Kills MJ who volunteered for super soldier program because FINALLY ONE WITH SPIDER-MAN>Gwen kills MJ because she senses Peter on her>Symbiote bonds to Gwen>The creator is now slave to the creation
>>28524542Everything's a red herring. There aren't any normal herring! Cosgrove doesn't allow non-red herrings in his seas.
>>28524583Jackal is Aizen.Not that it has been said it no longer exists.
Relax guys, we know how to deal with vampires.
See you fools next week. Enjoy that turkey as that 5% looms over your heads.
>>28524613Correction, SpOck knows how to deal with them. We, as in Peter, knows jack shit about dealing with Vampires.
>>28524558Okay. So, Maximum Carnage basically translates as immortal Carnage. Scary.
>>28524613Holy fucking what? What is this?
...Hang on.>Alice is probably MJ>MJ is probably Carnage Killer>And this probably the original Carnage before Mary Jane Watson vs Gwen Stacy.>She's now a cyborg...but can't remember anything>She 'conveniently' starts holding back whenever Carnage is nearby>She was right here in New York>Almost as if she was...>...waiting for us>Carnage is extremely loyal to Kassady, its original hostALICE IS NOT AMNESIAC, SHE'S FAKING ITSHE'S A SPAHBRACE FOR BACKSTABS
>>28525876Superior Spider-Man Annual #1. Asshole kidnapped and threatened to kill Aunt May, and your Friendly Neighborhood Spiderman decides to make an example of what happens when you fuck with his family.(reverse image search, dude)
Good mor- holy fuck!?
>>28526227I read it when it happened and I'm still going "holy fuck"
>>28526340Peter has more than 2 problems when he gets home.
>>28526401"Gwen? You wouldn't happen to be a... Psychopathic murderer, would you? I mean, I don't really think that you are, but I did just come from a future where you tried to kill me."
>>28524040>At last, Peter, you’ve finally appeared- the key to giving me an invincible, immortal body is finally within my grasp"Wait, immortal? I'm immortal? Man, nobody ever tells me ANYTHING."
>>28526716Pretty sure it's because Carnage needs undamaged DNA from Peter to maintain itself. It's been going after clones, but since they're imperfect copies the DNA can't sustain it for very long. If it gets its claws in Peter, it's set for life.
>>28526875Since it needs undamaged spider DNA, and Gwen has that, we can infer that it does not, in fact, have Gwen.Clonegwen confirmed....Deadgwen confirmed.
>>28526997>Deadgwen confirmedIf Gwen were dead the most likely suspect would be Carnage, wouldn't it? And then wouldn't it have acquired her DNA?
>>28527009Willing to bet she offed herself to stop that from happening.
So, we are bitch slapping Gwen as soon as we go back to past right?
>>28527179She took down us and Alice without hitting us and Venom is down right now too. Unless the Doktor and the velveteen rabbit have something pretty super up their sleeves, I think it's time to appeal to her humanity. Or run. Or both.
>>28527009Carnage probably doesn't need Spider, it needs Parker.
>>28527230So you claim Gwen did all these because she wanted Peter but couldn't have him? Sounds like something a woman would do.
>>28527272Well, we did tell her we were dating someone else in a pretty insensitive way.
>>28527272No...Parker DNA. The res suit is an Abomination, so it was man made. It is incomplete because part of it's sequence is based on our or our father's DNA probably. She doesn't need the Spider Blood, she just needs the Peter parts of the blood. Which sucks balls.
Well this was... I don't even.Also it's clear that Gwen was reacting to the scent of realpeter rather than seeing her "father" like that, which she must have known about for some time, maybe even did.That said, I'm not sure if she's a clone or not since clones don't get the originals memories and Gwen knows us. That's a bit shaky, but whatever. We need to end this quick no matter what.
>>28527746Clones CAN have the original memories.Ben Reilly thought he was Peter Parker at first.We can also pretty much be sure that 2035 Gwen isn't 2013 Carnage since the later didn't know who Spider-Man was. Peter Parker doesn't know what we know though.
>>28527848If Gwen was Garnage 1, she wouldn't need to constantly call out Spider-Man since she has ready access to him. This at least Peter knows. And in regards to just wanting to off him publicly for he cameras; that type of showmanship is reserved for Hobgoblin.Some things to remember (ooc) is that our Spider-Sense is flaring up like crazy, which means that the symbiote hasn't tasted true spider blood (unless Cosgrove's throwing us a bone).Therefor it's safe to assume that this Gwen might not have spider-sense.Also worth noting that if this Carnage is truly vampiric, which is quite possible, it will not be able to assist its host in daylight, it would also explain why she appears so young (unless clone). HOWEVER, Symbiotes can also mimic people and outfits. So perhaps this isn't Gwen after all, but some sort of mindfuck.The best case scenario is that we have to solo a bloodthirsty ragemonster Gwen who doesn't have spider-sense, but instead most likely has at least 10 years of experience on us.
>>28528170We have one thing she doesn't.We are tenuously aware that we are magic.That's worth it's weight in spiders right now by comic book and Spider-book logic.
>>28525965Alice isn't having a good time right now, so I'm not sure that's the case.Also she's mostly robot now, so the symbiote can't bind to her anyway.
>>28528196We don't know any magic. Unless DOOM or Strange shows up in the nick of time via locating another mystic presence, it won't do shit for us.
>>28528268It could be useful if we die. But... I'd rather avoid that.
Can objectives from past arcs be completed?
>>28528310No, since they'd be undone anyway once we go back to the past.Also way to go Flash, you lead her right here when you could have sniped her.Sure she'd have come back, but still.
>>28528268Something like that, just being aware he is a totem/magic has saved spidey's life a few times/done a power up asspull at a critical juncture.Nothing about actually knowing magic.
>>28528170We could sense Gwens intentions back in the past too; so the symbiote might not have that ability, but Gwen might.Us having spider-sense means nothing right now.
>>28528170Just wanted to point out, that it wouldn't matter either way. The reason the Symbiotes don't trigger Peter's spider sense is because Venom bonded to him. However, Ben, a clone of Peter was able to sense Venom with his Spider Sense because the Symbiote never bonded with him.Since we haven't had contact with the Symbiote yet, it hasn't placed those markers that makes our spider sense register it as "Us", so we can detect the Symbiotes.
>>28528508>>28528543The fact we have access to our most critical power is going to be super important. Hopefully Gwen doesn't have the sense (due to clone... which doesn't make sense why they wouldn't have it) or access to the symbiote due to it being dawn.That said I would not be surprised to get in a brutal find and have Gwen pull a hidden knife or something.
Hey maybe blind Hawkeye will save everyone.Or a DOOM battalion.Or an army of Reeds Ultrons.Or maybe we're just proper fucked,Can we just fast forward a week already?
>>28528590>due to clone... which doesn't make sense why they wouldn't have itTwo ideas: First, the clones are made out of degraded samples. The blood was stored for a long time and isn't in the best condition. Depending on if/how Gwen was cloned, this may not be applicable to her.Second, it could be that while some of our power is related to us being bitten by a mutated spider that the connection to the Web of Fate is NOT one of the powers we received from Science, but is a power we received from the spider gods. Since the clones are not favored by the gods, they don't have the power. Gwen probably wouldn't have Spider-Sense in that case.
>>28528753Well as soon as the fight starts we'll know just what she's packing. In any case we're going to need help since our sense is being an ass and immobilizing us.I fully imagine her just walking up to us, the standard laying on of hands as we kneel, then Flash blasting her face off from his back.This of course will only piss her off, but buy us some time.
>>28528753I think it was estabnlished in 616 that the Spider Totem blessed Peter after he gained spider powers. He gained his powers through science, which it needed him to do for various reasons eventual showdown with Morlun, having an agent not directly created so that mystical foes can't trace him back to the totem by sympathetic links, etc, but once he had his powers, the totem decided to grant him some more, or at least a seal of approval and some totemic authority. So he's got all the authority of a totemic shaman of Spider, but his core powers are all mortal science.
>>28528868Like a lot of the stuff in the books, it's open to interpretation. Peter Parker himself is a complete skeptic about the whole thing. He knows Magic and gods and stuff exist, but he's also confident that it's much more mundane than the magicians or gods make it out to be.
>>28528903I still think he and Pym need to sit down and hammer out the rules by which magic functions scientifically.>Amadeus Cho: "Wait, you can see magic now?>Pym: "It's just energy. And energy follows rules. And that's Science."
>>28529034Do we really want Pym to be the one to figure out magic and translate it in scientific terms? I mean if anybody can do it, it's him... But if there's anything worse than Ultron, it's an Ultron that understands the infinite depths of the mystic.
>>28529065Ultron: Sorcerer Supreme?Also if there's no Jan, there's no Ultron. Pym will just keep studying ants until he dies.
>>28529116We'll totally push him to the whole giant man thing.
>>28525973I can't help but feel that in a lot of instances, SpOck has a "natural" reaction to the situations he's put in.
>>28529118Or get him hooked on Spiders.But >>28529065 is right. We need to sit down with Doom and work on the Science of Magic.
>>28529324And, if we can, try and get some hands on scavenged Stark or Ritchards tech. Upgrading out outfit with some high quality future engineering would be a good idea for when we go beast mode back in our own time to stop Carnage, Hobgoblin, Osborn, and quite possibly Gwen, The Avengers, and Thor/Hercules
>>28529479>wasteland>Finding working tech of that caliber laying aroundYou might as well be looking for Ezo weapons on trash mobs. That shit is rare as HELL now. DOOM however might have some goodies for us he's tinkered with off and on.
>>28529501Too bad we don't know where Flash left Phil's Body. Or have the time to go looking for it.
>>28529580He most likely has a lot of the same old tech Gen 1 Hobs did. Best we could do with that is create a potentially universe ending paradox with it.After we deal with Carnage, we might have a little time to scavenge, but we had best do it on the way.Also Flash is not going to be happy to learn we time shifted.
>>28529862Hey, at the very least it'd give us a leg up on the Hobgoblin in our time, being able to study his gear and shit.
>>28529884While it would be nice to take a sabbatical and do that, we need to get the hell out of here as soon as possible. Learn from DOOM and Flash what happened, and take corrective steps to rewrite history.Also I had a vision of Spidey coming back with a jerry rigged powerpack similar to WC3's Goblin Tinkerer/ Lumberjack.
>>28529501We should have given Doom our father's hard drive. Let him spend 20 years decoding it, using its technology, improving on it. Then we pick up the finished improved versions and schematics for them and return to the past, giving ourselves and present-Doom a 20 year headstart on developing the technologies our father envisioned.Also, I'm going to start dumping pics of some alternate Spider Man concepts from 'Project Rooftop'. Some of them might just have viable components we could incorporate into future Spider Costumes. Case in point, I really think this particular suit had a good idea. IF we can miniaturize the projection nozzles on the web spinners, we could finger-mount them. That would give us a lot of versatility in creating web constructs on the fly. Parachutes, nets, cuffs. And it would raise the web output so that covering a grenade or bomb would be a lot faster. Lose the scarf, but the helmet/mask system here looks good both as a protective measure for Peter's big brain, and as a housing for electronics. At the very least a bluetooth linked to a smartphone hidden in the helmet or on the belt.>Siri, which what did that traffic report say about a giant lizard?
>>28530023I like the hood on this one, simply because it breaks up the humanoid outline. People are pattern-seeking creatures and we notice the outlines of other humans when they're camouflaged more easily than larger shapeless masses. That's the entire concept behind sniper Ghillie Suits.So maybe Peter could implement something similar, but more urban.
>>28530057Red and black is always a bold statement, but if we can incorporate gel-packs of the kinetic-dampening material we made, those lines can also be the delineation between gel cells. It's sleek, easily camoflaged, and appropriately intimidating. Might want to avoid red for a while after dealing with Carnage though.
>>28530095We need to rock a white or yellow suit when we get back. A beacon of light for the future.
>>28530168and a beacon to get a pumpkin bomb thrown at us
>>28530185And the bright red was somehow a better defense against that?
>>28530168I think we should keep the regular suit on.Everyday is a last stand battle. Though, seriously, after spiderman and other super heroes saved the world countless times, he gets gun down by police. I hope marvel earth in this quest isn't as stupid or else we might let the earth be destroyed.At least they not DC people who protest the joker from being killed by batman or people being afraid of superman after he killed the joker who just nukes metropolis. To the point of kindnapping supes parents.
>>28530095While the ab-armor may need to be sacrificed in the name of flexibility, I like the bracers and the addition of an offensive weapon. We should see about incorporating a taser or pepper spray into the shooters. Something with more versatility than our fists.
>>28530240White is also useless when were trying to sneak,at least in the dark red is somewhat concealable
>>28530256If working with doom is going to be a regular thing, we need to look into some serious protection. I like the robustness of the webshooter design here, and the fact that the armor has a color-changing option. Trim it down, make it from something flexible (like Peter's ablative web fluid armor design), and this may work for us.
>>28530267Next tuesday will not come fast enough.
Don't mind me I'm just posting alt-spidersuits
>>28530292I think the backpack in this case deserves special consideration. Keep a few smaller cartridges in the wrist units as emergency backup, but a larger tank on the back could make extended patrols and protracted fights easier by providing a surplus of webbing.
>>28530057I like the hood too, as long as if we ever do something like this we remember not to put the spider sense thing on there. Broadcasting your precognition danger sense is a stupid idea.>>28530292They remind me of Ben's web shooters, which is actually something if like to do. His used larger fluid cartridges and had neat tricks like impact webbing.
>>28530256One of the concepts I had was a Dredd style "revolver" style wrist mounted shooter with several canisters that would rotate appropriately and contain different fluids as needed. The problem is there are too many points of failure between the mechanics and electronics needed to make it work.>>28530244You're just talking about the Injustice continuity. DC tends to worship its heroes something proper most of the time. Marvel citizens are terrible people who, in fairness, live in a terrible world.>>28530292>DOOM>Green/ silver outfit with gold accentsYes
>>28530392Sleeker, more generically dangerous look.
>>28530412See, I like the hardened forearm bracer. It's not a part of the body that needs a lot of flexibility except at the wrist and elbow, and can function as an excellent hardpoint for mounting tools and weapons. I'm thinking Webshooters underneath the wrist as normal, taser system above the wrist, and impact webbing on the side, with secondary webshooter lines running to the fingertips for faster weaving of complex structures like nets and such. Maybe mix some pepper-spray into the impact webbing, give it a little kick when fired into someone's face.
>>28530513bracers and grieves to covers our forearms and the portion of our legs below the knee and above the foot wouldn't be a bad idea if we can ever get some martial arts training in since it would let us block more damaging attacks we might not be able to dodge for whatever reason. That and when we drop them when shit gets real, speed boost.
>>28530448everybody wears black nowadays. I think its sooo lame. Even the new freakin Robocop wears black armor. sry, but gay.
>>28530586Nothing wrong with black as long as it's not too dominant.
>>28530586You could make an arguement that the red and blue make a much more friendlier appearance which help us get the support of the people and not black like a thief that hides.Or you can call that anon there gay and start a faggot cycle that will fuck up the thread.Let keep it neighborhood friendly.
>>28530663I agree we should stick to brighter "friendlier" colors. And is it me, or is white becoming more and more sinister these days?
>>28530716It can be, yeah. I think we should avoid the bright Royal Blue, though. I think our best bet is to upgrade the The End costume. Use the red from >>28530057, with pants and jacket/mask highlights of >>28530292's blue, and a dim/dark yellow trim breaking it up at wrists, ankles, shoulders, hips etc like in >>28530057.
>>28530844Not a bad look I guess. Very Superman; which I appreciate.Also Yellow is one of our identifying colors in this world now anyway.
>>28530934True, but I think the bulk of the jacket and looseness of the pants sets us apart from the standard 'spandex' stereotype. We're not just running around in our underoos here. We need to portray a serious, professional manner when we're not mouthing off. People need to see we're not just a clown with a gimmick.
>>28531029I tend to hate the street clothed super look, but The End pulls it off decently enough.We probably do need to eventually move in the direction of streamlining ourselves a bit to something similar to the Superior outfit. At least as far as lenses and wrist mounted gadgets goes.
>>28531179I think the lenses and backpack should be a priority, but we don't have the engineering experience or materials to pull off the extra robo-arms. BUT DOOM DOES
>>28531223I wasn't talking about the arms, which are more often than not shown as a liability, I was talking about the streamlined webslingers/ bracers/ communication/ tracing devices on his wrists.
>>28531355Yeah, I think that should be a priority.But if this quest goes the way I think it will, we'll have to split our efforts between Engineering, Martial Arts/Cross Training, and Magic.
>>28531390And Science. Can't forget about that.
>>28531626What is engineering?
>>28531662spider-man arc-reactor suit
>>28531662ProgrammingChemisty BiologyPhysicsWe are skilled but not REED/DOOM/PYM level even in engineering but we getting there though.
>>28531810Of corse we're not on that level yet; we're 17 and focused on school and other problems. And once we start solving those problems, sorted in order of murder centricity, we can do some of that stuff. There's a lot on our plate.
The Fate of that Blood??? ???? ?? ???? ?????THIS IS THE LAST 5 PERCENT.IT DO OR DIE TIME.
>>28532292Think we can convince Cos, do another issue on Satureday/Sunday?
>>28532363We don't want Rider Quest to turn into another bi-monthly quest like Bleach Quest. The ball hasn't even gotten rolling in it yet.
>>28532363I'm content for Rider Quest this Saturday. Lest of course the Soul Society interlude is done. Though his endgame for BQ might keep having the goal post moved as with each chapter proves Juha Back to be an even bigger dick than we previously thought. It just keeps escalating with each successive appearance.
>>28532804Totally forgot a new chapter came out.
>>28532861>>28532804Sweet jesus subtle hints and context clues of Aizen having escaped