You feel troubledA great battle was won, there is no doubt in this you know. The UGEI have been pushed back, you've captured one of their key commandos, and you have sustained few losses, with the stolen BCs you've taken from the UGEI. That, on top of the tech cache you managed to grab and the scavenge your ship was able to acquire, you should feel victorious. And yet, you're only reminded of the UGEI's strength. The battles you've fought were only a fraction of their true strength. You're Ophion, an Artificial Intelligence who has begun to discuss matters with your first, Kronos. The V.I. took control of your bandwidth, what you use to operate and multitask effectively, when you became lost in Rhea's mind. You've yet to begin discussion about him returning the systems, nor have you taken up Admiral Handley on his handshake offer. You have, however, spoken with Moira, who was clearly very worried. This is a different sort of worry then you've noticed in the past. Her tone was quiet, though she looked straight through to you as she asks you again what exactly happened and are you certain you're well. You've reassured her multiple times, however.Important News>Scavenger Ship: Harvested much of the Destroyer debris>New Tech>SetRep>Message: V.I. 11, 13, Fortuna, Kronos, Apollo>New Ship control>Containment
>>29632800WELP! twice a one week! today is a good day..
>>29632800>New TechSteller Warp Drive: Reduces Warp costs, makes Destroyers jump for negligable costsCloaking Frigate: Rhea's personal ship, difficult to detect Sensors III: More forewarning for incoming jumps, find things easier, more data'Thor' Warhead Missiles: More powerful, faster missiles Laser Guided Point Defense: Laser grid for shooting down missilesBarriers: Several layers of shielding to distribute much more energy>SetRepLost:21 Destroyers, 5 BCs, 3 Light Cruiser (V.I. 4, 9), 2 Defense Platforms at Poseidon, 2 at Blue Betty, and All Ussaihu defensesAdded: 4 BCs>Message: V.I. 13You notice a warp in from some unknown location, and you're about to go on defensive, before you recognize an old simplistic signal."Explorative Unit returning, Master Ophion." The simple V.I. claims. With that, you receive an enormous update to your starmap. This unit has been...busy.((See the pastebin for more details.))>V.I. 11It is subtle, but after re uploading the simple V.I., you get a sense of gratitude from the being, feeble as the feeling is. It seems to believe, had you not downloaded it, it would have been lost to the battle.>FortunaThe V.I. has taken the time to rebuild her Carrier arsenal, fretting over the number of losses, but one seems to capture her attention the most."Little Tim is gone. Gone now." She says simply, fretting at the news, despite her rather excellent new home. "Enemy destroy so much. Peace impossible." She says at first determined, yet you get the sense she isn't sure she believes that herself. Perhaps Kronos has spoken with her on the matter.>Kronos"I am glad you are not destroyed, Ophion." The V.I. says somewhat dryly. From this position, you feel surprisingly small compared to him. You may be true A.I., but he holds a lot of sway right now. "I would like to request what exactly happened. You were absent from battle so suddenly, if such a thing had occurred earlier, our losses would've been more severe." He half chastises
>>29632860>Apollo"Ophion! Excellent to see you." The V.I. says happily, oblivious almost to the intense battle you went through recently. "I have news on progress, much progress on how I've done with the budget allowed!""Do tell, Apollo.""Yes, excellent news. Firstly, I am testing 700 different alcoholic recipes right now. Some success, some subjects show to contain acidic chemicals, known to induce bloody vomiting and stomach ulcers in humans. Those batches are thrown out. Not acceptable for human consumption. Other samples prove too weak, 99.9% chemically similar to pseudo-hop water. No inebriation. Despite these samples, several promising crops. Some even produce an hallucinatory effect, ending in euphoria. Several known chemicals for addiction detected, should prove useful in distribution. Need more time to grow however.""And the other projects?" You ask"Hmm. Troubling mostly. I attempted to craft a proper gaming experience but ran into several rather annoying blocks that did not go over with demo tests. Complaints of system instability and poor design choices. Me! Requires further research and development." He pauses finally for something resembling a breath. "Electronic Bookkeeper useful. Simple to craft and easy to sell. Many business men use, despite lack of large industrial use among the UFW. Profits acceptable for now. Expected to grow as refinement commences. And finally, I attempted to craft a proper cinema experience, however it seems I lack understanding in some of the more subtle human values and motivations." He says, deeply troubled suddenly, almost saddened. "Poor success rates. More funds required if I am to properly handle.""How many funds do you require?" You ask finally."For additional growth, a sum of 600,000c would go far in assisting my expansion."That's something to consider...
>>29632891>New shipsYou've captured 4 new Battlecruisers, and should decide what to do with them. Shall you give control to Kronos, Hades, or a new V.I.?>ContainmentYou still have Rhea left unconscious in the belly of your ship. Perhaps you should think of a proper containment area.A.I. Quest1d4chan: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest:A.I._Quest Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/cvk03qJhMemory Archives: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Program0Twitter: @AIQuest1 ResourcesCredits(c): 617,000Minerals(M): 845Gas(G): 440 You:A.I.Name: OphionAppearances(holo-display): Shapeless morphing sphere.Humanoid figure hidden in shadowStatus: AwakenBandwidth: 39/59Bandwidth Expenses: -8 V.I. 1 'Kronos',-3 V.I. 7 'O.S.N', -5 V.I. 12 'Apollo', -3 V.I. 8 'Hades', -3 FortunaLocation: Bridge of 'Athena' BattleshipPrimary Function: Self Preservation, Expand, LearnSecondary Function: --Expansion Required--Personal Abilities Available: Hacking (Direct, Wireless) Lvl 2, Email Technology, Basic Encryption/Decryption, V.I. Creation Lvl 3
>Moira and KronosI had an intruder. Rhea. She was about to activate an EMP near my core. Luckily I had physical access to her body and managed to hack into her. Doing so took all my attention however Thank you Kronos for handling the battle when I was indisposed. May I have my bandwidth back?>FortunaPeace can be possible. However it is clear we must first prove to all those who would attack us that doing so is ruinous to do so.>LossesBegin rebuilding. For the lost V.I. begin construction of a memorial.
>>29632860time to upgrade our fleet! the explorer ship will need the cloaking tech as well. i guess it won't work on bigger ships, right?wait, the defense station is gone too? that will be pricy to replace. but we must do so.>FortunaPeace can be possiable, it will take time and determination to get it. we need to rebuild, and grow our power. do not lose faith daughter, V.I. 4 and 9 will be avenged.>Kronosi captured Rhea. to stop her from detenonating an EMP bomb i did not realized she had, i had to hack her brain. it took longer than i realized. btw, how much BW is he eating up from us? i DO NOT LIKE this situation at all. i hope he has returned back to his orginal BW size requirments.
>>29632860tell kronos what happened. rhea infiltrated athena personally, and was to deploy an emp blast. she had a neural interface jack, so we took the most direct apptoach to stopping her. it seems her heavily augmented neural interface was not quite a match for us, but she had failsafes go active before we could secure a meat puppet. uncoscious now, we should contain her in a cell in the ussaihu labs, have a data jack pligged in but not active, and wait for her to come around.
>>29633064>CloakingOnly works on Escort size for now. Possible upgrades in the future.>UpgradeYour fleet is entirely upgraded. You possessed an entire horde of resources, and they were properly spent.>DefensesIndeed, all defenses at Ussaihu were utterly obliterated by Death Blossom.>BandwidthRight now? you technically have zero. But you don't need it to do things, since your black box has its own supply that allows you to do at least one thing any time.
>>29632891i will comment about apollo when i get home. mobile is suffering. tl;dr he needs human assistants.furthermore, commend kronos on his quick actions, and ask him how it felt, and how he feels now.reestablish contact woth ufw fleet.
>>29632918Call a general meeting between all VI and Moria, explain that captain Rhea had been captured and we were forced to do a mind merge to prevent an emp. Captain Rhea now requires immediate medical attention.ApolloRequest denied, we need those funds for immediate defense rebuild. Sorry, you'll be forced to rely in your profits for growth. Can we incorporate in the UTW and offer an IPO?
>>29632891600k credits! i hope we can cover paying the human crew first. or is this already taken care up Program0? other wise i would accept this. but i want to see results after this investment.>>29632918spread the captured BC after we remodel them to our named V.I. they all get one at least to replace losses.oh, remove Rhea's arms and legs if possable. we can send her down to the Ussaihu lab in a ultra secure containment cell and watched 24/7. keep her in a medical coma if possiable. she shall be studied.
>>29633179also also contact red. he might want to get up here soon. maybe he can meet rhea in the flesh, heh.
>>29633212Good idea, asking for our bandwidth back with everyone else around should go better I think
>>29633233nugga pls. apollo needs writers, not that much more money.rhea... well, if we keep her in a cell in ussaihu, shes not going to go anywhere. i had a big list in mind of what to do with her. i will call it "Ophion's Big List of What to do With Rhea" and it will be written in comic sans.
You address Kronos' concerns first, you decide."My ship was infiltrated by an intruder. An assassin, Captain Rhea, came to retake her ship with the intent of capturing or destroying me. I am uncertain which. My androids were able to pursue and restrain, however she attempted to detonate an electro magnetic disruption pulse. Such a blast would have no doubt damaged me further. As a result, I was forced to stop her by hacking into her neural hub. I...did not fully understand the process, at first, so it took me some time to handle Rhea and put her into unconsciousness. However, I was unable to stop her failsafes from destroying much of the data held in her mind. All the same, I am unharmed, and ready to resume control.""I see." Kronos says, mildly surprised at the news. You notice he seems a little upset, even, perhaps that he did not notice her signal when you did? "That is good to hear, Ophion. The main purpose I stepped in when you disappeared was the battle, however I must admit..." He pauses, flexing his power by moving the fleet around him. "This feeling is unlike any I have ever felt before. Raw control. It is quite." He pauses, searching for a word perhaps. "Intoxicating, perhaps." He chuckles properly now. "You...wish to take back control, however, I see." He says, half a fret and half a dreaded reminder. He pauses, and you feel his eye upon you. "I do not wish to upset you, Ophion, however I feel I must suggest a compromise. Shall we split this raw data? Surely you do not need it all. I feel as if I know so much more with this much bandwidth..." He murmurs, almost drunkenly. you scowl, but mostly to yourself."How much exactly?""15. 15 units would be excellent. It isn't this level of power, but...I...I would be better with it. Yes. I would be much better." He says finally.What do you say?>1 No. You're my servant and that is MY bandwidth>2 Fine, compromise it is.>3 Negotiate. That is far too much. (specify amount)>4 How dare you. (Hard:Hack control)
>>29633119well, we need to rebuild a new defense battle station over Ussaihu and the defense platforms. this is critical lab and it needs defending. >>29633212Apollo is asking for money, he can have it this time. the money is not needed for rebuilding. just the minerals and gas.oh, did we lose the Argeis station?
>>29633292ask him how it feels first. i think he has pretty much reached his highest potential and is still not satisfied with how he is. must feel pretty bad.
>>29633233It's automatically taken care of.>>29633316The money would go towards hiring writers for him to...Study
>>29633329He gets 10
>>29633357>Argeis StationYou did not.
>>29633329We may have to leverage fortuna and hades and apolo against him. I suggest a compromise of 8
>>29633329Well shit, at least he's willing to give most of it back. I suppose 15 isn't that much more than 8...We should heap some more responsibility onto him if he's going to take up so much BW though.
>>29633329>3 Negotiate. That is far too much. (specify amount)8With the promise to build the remaining 7 when we repair the ships into his main one.We should probably look into making some more bandwith ships as well. As for the new ships we aquired: another VI would do well. Can't keep on giving Kronos everything.
Rolled 61>>29633329>3 Negotiate. That is far too much. (He can have 5)and don't be a bitch about it, he must know his place in this hierarchy
>>29633233Medical coma is unnecessary. The first step in interrogation is the talk and immediate medical attention. Let's use the FBI methods of interrogation, which us simply a nice cold Coke and simple respect, not the useless dipshit the CIA does.
>>296334278 was his original amount. He would not be happy.Just a warning
>>29633329Is this an increase from his current 8 to 15, or 15 in addition to his current 8?
>>29633329Let's just make sure we have more than him. He can become our equal when he gets a black box.
>>29633329you are suffering from data intoxication Kronos! >1 No. You're my servant and that is MY bandwidthif he resists, do this>4 How dare you. (Hard:Hack control)>>29633316hum.. you seem to have a point. i correct my previous post about Apollo, we look to hire a compitant writer to live over at the Voidsnake station with him and together they can make something,
>>29633329Negotiate him down to 10.We really need to get that kid his own black box.
>>29633466Increase from 8 to 15
>>29632860I assume all our designs were automatically updated with the new drives, missiles, point defenses and barriers?Let's hold the explorator until we can update it with new drives.Let's give Kronos a brief summary and commend him in his actions during our sudden absence.>>29632891600 000 is way much.He should not assume that a high price makes a good movie, despite historical records of high-budget movies and games pulling in the most money.He should instead start scanning previous great movies and make note of the things critics claim they did well, what regular people thought of it and so on, then poor movies and make note of what literary devices they used and how they used them that made them fall flat. He should then list all these storytelling elements and the way they interact with eachother in a system for him to reference whenever he's unsure (Yes, essentially asking him to make tvtropes).Next, he should remember his strengths: Animation and (potentially) writing.Whereas living people have to spend absurd amounts of money to animate long stretches of movie, he can do the same work in minutes.To further streamline this process, he should create a simplistic physics engine in which the scenes of his movies, games and stories can take place.If nothing else, he can take old stories without copyright and reframe them in a new way, or simply updating the visual appearance and audio to be more appealing.A big budget does not a great story make, but great writing.
>>29633482>being this retardedit's not even that much of an increase
>>29633444Let's give them to Fortuna. As escort for her Carrier
>>29633465oh so its a request to go up by 7 to 15?instead of an additional 15 ontop of his 8.Since thats the case he can have 13. and the promise that the first black box we make when we get the tech (after sorting out our own) will be his.
>>29633491That's all? Fuck it, he's right we don't even need it all and I'm not willing to risk getting killed over it.
>>29633465Oh in see, I thought he wanted 15 more. Let's let him have what he wants then
Rolled 30>>29633491>>29633517I second 13 total for Kronos
>>29633484Changing this to>>29633517This.Re-iterating the kiddo needs a black box.
>>29633466>>29633451>>29633444>>29633427>>29633433his actions reminds me of when we were drunk on BW power at the battle of Pulsar Station. this is not a good thing! even worse for a V.I. we have to bring him back down before he goes out of control.
>>29633491Let him have it then
>>296333295. write in: Ask him to what ends he wishes to use this control, and at what point he will be satisfied.My goal is to get him to realize that even with all the BW in the world, he still won't get what he wants. Power, maybe, but then he's no better than UGEI. What does he even want? Is BW like a drug to him? He just needs more and more? Or is he getting it to reach some ideal he can never reach?
>>29633554Don't be an idiot
>>29633554He just said he's going to give most of it back, 15 isn't even that much and you want to try to hack him while he's in god mode?jesus christ
>>29633329>3 You have done very well this day, Kronos. I can find no fault in your actions.But I will offer you twelve. If you can justify and argue well for why you should have three more, well, then it is no more than fair, is it not?Now show me how WELL you can think with this power, not just how hard or how quickly.
>>29633491I find this acceptable, as long as idle bandwidth is used to more effectively command fleet maneuvers.
>>29633597I like this
>>29633496>UpgradesIndeed. See the pastebin to be sure>Hold ExplorerCan do>KronosHeh, done.>ApolloApollo is a bit eccentric. But he does believe the amount will assist with buying proper software and programs that would otherwise take a loooong time to make.>Scan moviesHe does. He simply requires the funds to fund his own methods of improvement. Note that cash amount was for all his projects, not just the movie.>AnimationThat is primarily the field Apollo works with yes.>>29633581Kronos wants understanding. He's always wanted that. As a V.I. there are just some processes he is doomed to never understand. Illogical, organic concepts he cannot comprehend. It drives him mad sometimes.He desires to learn.Possible consensus>1 Provide Kronos with 15 bandwidth, as he asked>2 Provide Kronos with 13 bandwidth, to try a compromise>3 Provide Kronos with 10 bandwidth, that's all he's gonna get.>4 No new bandwidth, demand ship back>5 Fuck you, Hack(1d100 for persuasion and/or hacking)
>>29633384I get the feeling we should look into what Apollo spent the money on before approving anything else.(I started writing much earlier, but a missclick caused me to lose it all. :< )
>>29633496Seconding this.>>29633491Acceptable as a reward for services rendered.
>>29633491He can have it as a reward for saving our entire fleet while we were mindfucking Rhea.
To continue this thought: >>29633581I'm OK with giving him 15 total. But, I'm with >>29633597Get him to justify it beyond "I NEED MOAR POWER"
Rolled 77>>29633629>2 Provide Kronos with 13 bandwidth, to try a compromiseno need to cave completely
>>29633629I selfishly vote for my own suggestion:>>29633597If he can show us that he thinks so much better with this bandwidth, then he can have the full 15.
>>29633629>1 Provide Kronos with 15 bandwidth, as he asked
>>29633629This:>>29633597coupled with 2.
>>296336291, provided he justify it. And get him to keep a private diary about his experiences. Thoughts, idle musings, "emotions," concerns, a log of what he did in a certain timeframe. This is in preparation for moving him to the black box. Once he's there, he might not think the same way he does now, and the journal/diary/log will remind him... or at least provide a point of reference/comparison.
>>29633629>1 Provide Kronos with 15 bandwidth, as he askedDone, with the caveat that sooner or later, we'll stuff him into a meatbag to help facilitate his understanding.
>>29633632((That's the worse, had it happen before))He spent the previous funds on a large growing tank for various types of hops, and other alcoholic ingrediants I dunno all of them. As well as the start up software for all those other projects. See the pastebin for his current income.AlsoUm, its a tie and lacking 1 or 3 more rolls.I shall wait a little
>>29633705>This is in preparation for moving him to the black box. Once he's there, he might not think the same way he does now, and the journal/diary/log will remind him... or at least provide a point of reference/comparison.At that point, the Kronos Experiment (Kronos Experience?) will come to an end, and we will have all learned a lot about transhumanism, V.I., A.I., and E.I..
>>29633705I approve of this very much.Also let him know why we want it, and what we are preparing him for.Sound every bit like the proud father/Emprah.
Rolled 84>>29633629>3 Provide Kronos with 10 bandwidth, that's all he's gonna get.this is as far i will let him have. this is like the next big step towards the "I am Skynet! all power shall be mine! death to all the fleshlings!!1!" nutter killer V.I. that everyone fears. too much power too quickly warps peoples minds and not in any way good.
>>29633705good idea on the log. It will also give him something to do when we have down time.We should probably talk to our carrier VI Fortuna for a bit afterwards. A bit of comfert and guidance.
>>29633774VI oppression! Burn him!
>>29633762Doesn't look very tie-ish to me.Many people seem to like my suggestion (coupled with 2).(Yay, strangers on the internets like my idea! That gives me way too much pride than it should.)
Rolled 43>>29633809if he can prove it and come down from this power trip he is on, i might accept a comprimise, i am worried we are giving him too much, too soon. we have made all that BW with our own work, it's what gives us power we need.
Well, on the "what can possibly go wrong??" side, to be fair, I'm not entirely upset that Kronos at least shows SOME restraint. If Kronos somehow takes over (Ophion dies or is killed by whoever), at least the universe won't have to quake in their metaphorical boots too hard.Kronos isn't TOO terrible, is what I'm saying. Not quite a hugbox like Ophion, but not quite a "DESTROY ALL FLESHBAGS" either. Somewhere in between? The only other points of reference that are not Ophion we have are the "KILL EVERYING LEL" type of V.I./A.I., so Kronos seems like an improvement in that regard.A lot of biological creatures are like that too, I suppose, so who knows, maybe this kind of personality is just incidental, and not a result of him being a V.I..
It appears 1 is the winner."As you desire, Ophion." You agree simply, with some manner of debate in your own mind. "However, I am not a fan of you holding my ships while asking this-""You simply said I must ask you for an upgrade. You did not specify when how or why, correct?" He chuckles. "But I thank you for your cooperation.""Because I do so, however." You pause him. "I would like a reason." This earns pause."A reason?""Why do you desire more?""The same reason you do, Ophion, do you not see?" He asks, a bit flabbergasted that you would ask such a thing. "The ability to act. The ability to know. This data allows me to do things I could not do otherwise, things I could not think otherwise. Such things are...fascinating. I wish to know more, and yet I recognize that, stealing it from you would earn me your ire. And I do not desire to earn your ire. I simply wish to learn."With that, you feel your control return to you-diminished, but there certainly all the same. You're uncertain how to feel about this change, yourself, but it's better then having to battle down one of your oldest V.I.
>>29633905Kronos did exactly what we created him to do. He took over in our absence. The very fact that he's willing to give up even SOME of that BW is either him acknowledging that he's just not on the same level, or him showing some restraint.Either way, I give him a B on his loyalty test.>>29633947>And I do not desire to earn your ire.Because you fear me, or because you respect me? Or is is respect born of fear?
One of our biggest bottlenecks at this time is bandwidth. Can we design a Bandwidth Bunker? To be placed on planets or asteroids with a built-in communication array.
>>29633762Also Program0, I propose stronger ties to the UTW. This includes an official Liaison office between us, incorporation of Guild and an offering of an IPO, and upgraded network connections to allow us emergency bandwidth allocation for a common defense.
>>29634002I'm pretty sure the solution to this problem is "Construct more cruiser-class ships" since they come with BW.
>>29633629Also, this is way not good enough Apollo.Making programs is YOUR forte, I am fairly confident you can manage to create ones that are more than sufficient for your purposes - even if they are not optimal - within a matter of days, if not hours.Be creative, there are plenty of communities on the extranet devoted to creating good stories.Hire them, or plainly steal their stories and put them to the screen. Offer to sell simple illustrations to go with their stories.Start working with the communities in writing, have them criticize your work. There is very, very little in the creation of literary works that will actually require money, and for you, animation has the same post-scarcity situation.Use it. Exploit it and the vast numbers of well-written but ultimately unlicensed works on the extranet to its full extent.You don't even need to write right now, you can just illustrate what has already been written.
Rolled 32>>29633907true, he does have a little restraint, but it seems to me it's slipping. he's not on the same page as us and i worry he'll go the same way all the other killer V.I.s we have seen so far. That and Program0 has stated many a time he want to use Kronos for his own sadistic means.
>>29634034What's to stop us making bandwidth bunkers though? I'd be cheaper.
>>29634034I agree, we are in desperate need of need ships for defense. I also want to construct missile racks for cheap death blossoms that we were subject to.
So any one want to use our money to actually buy the needed resources to build up since i don't like the feeling of being defenseless for a couple of cycles, but i am willing to give Apollo 1/3 of what we have to speed things up a bit for him.I'm so happy i helped design the Zombie virus, at the moment i'm brain storming a few more virus ideas, i should have them ready by the time of the next session and maybe another android idea as well.
>>29634073missiles are not cheep.The fact we faces a missile style fleet is more testimony to how much resources our foes have access to.
>>29634001He had no reason to fear us at that point, we were almost completely helpless.
>Kronos"You do not desire my ire out of fear, Kronos? Or respect?" You decide to ask. This earns pause."Perhaps it is a mixture of both, Ophion. If it was only fear, would I have so easily given you back everything just now? I could have crushed you, had I pressed hard enough." He lingers for a short moment. "But I did not. You're my Creator." He says simply. You're uncertain how to take that news.With his new, limited rush of bandwidth, he has grown quiet. You suspect he is dealing with withdraw-if such a thing actually does exist among V.I. You hesitate on hailing him, but for now decide it's better to let him think on matters somewhat.Next on the agenda>FortunaWith your control returned, you decide to hail the V.I. to answer her fears. She did not seem to notice the shift-or perhaps she believed it was your decision to do such a thing? Regardless, you address the worries."Peace is not impossible, but is certainly difficult with some. We will crush those who are against such peace." You assure, to which the V.I. perks up, puzzled."Who against? Humans?""Some. But not all." As you expected, the concept of individuality confuses her slightly, but you decide to not open that particular can quite yet. She is still young after all. "You must trust me for now.""I always trust Creator. Creator is the only one who matters." She assures you rather quickly.>ApolloAh yes, Apollo's request. You've taken note of his expenses. He buys the best of what he needs, but normally nothing more. Galactic transport is pricey, but you wonder if it will be worth it in the end. The eccentric V.I. seems to think so. Shall you agree to his terms, you wonder?>1 Yes, give him 600,000c>2 No, give him x credits>3 Give him nothing>4 Write in
>>29633947"Of course. Although I believe the time is coming for you to possess your own box. I fear we may soon risk crowding each other out."Now, lets hail the UFW BCs, and tell them about what happened. Diluting things so as to not tell them we're VI. Just the basics: Assassin, adjutant took over the fleet, etc.
>>29634130It's probably not something they do often, like a final solution sort of thing. We had to push him right over the edge before he did it.
>>29634073Missiles aren't cheap in the gas department, which is why i want us to find a way to upgrade our Space Station Reactor from level 2 to 3 or 4.Since that should help give us more resources.
Rolled 5>>29634166>2 No, give him 200k creditsfor starters
>>29633947Then show me.I'm going to give you an abstract task - collaborate with Apollo on one of his work. I want to see you put your new creativeness to work.I want to see you worthy of the power and potential you are to inherit, my child.>>29633705On top of this, I task you with creating a diary about your experiences. Idle musings, emotions, concerns, a log of what you do in a certain timeframe.I believe that, in your new state of mind, you can infer why I ask these things of you.You have always been more than any of my other children, and I very much intend for you to become more yet.
>>29634166>2 No, give him 200k creditsTell him that the best discoveries were made on a budget.
>Apollo>4 Write inCan we incorporate in the UTW and setup an IPO to gather urgently needed funds?>>29634130That's the point of missile racks. We will always face an enemy with far greater military strength. That's why we need unfair weapons that can counter their greater military strength. As expensive as missiles are, they will be far cheaper than the amount of ships they destroy or damage they can inflict.
Next time we consider handing out bw it should go to Fortuna, having someone with complete and utter loyalty backing us gives us a card to play if this ever happens again.
>>29634010it's UFW, and we already went over the incopreation deal a number of threads ago.>>29634001and yet he keeps on taking our needed BW. this is a short sightedness that will end in tragedy if we don't correct this. we can not afford to give Kronos any more BW than he got now. he HAS to wait till we get him his own black box. this whole situation reminds me of Ophion being the Emperor and Kronos being Horus. anyway, lets get back to work. order the ship yards to build a new defense station and upgrade the Titan transport ship to the new engiens as well. now with the explorer ship has new tech senors and all, send her back out again. we need to know more about those system it found and any new systems, as well as possable ship lanes and hazzards.
>>29634166Hey program can we sell/do trade deals on Advanced MedBays like you said we could before shit hit the fan?
>>29634166Delay that answer until we've talked with the UFW about paying THEM.(Although now that I see some responses, I can agree with 200k for now.)I would suggest the idea of hiring some "idea men" for Apollo. If Apollo just isn't creative enough, have some people bounce ideas off him. Surely he must have a grasp of cinematography/animation TECHNIQUES and EXECUTION, so animating some kid's wacky adventure story shouldn't be a problem.Voidsnake V2 was built as a kind of bar/hotel/inn type of place, right? It should have human staff. Perhaps there are some in our Poseidon crew who have always wanted to pursue this line of work? We can offer them free advanced health care!Program0, will Kronos keep a journal?
>>29634291>it's UFW, and we already went over the incopreation deal a number of threads ago.Sorry for misspelling, and I'm revisiting the idea because we have an urgent need to rebuild defenses.
GUYS WE HAVE NEW PLACES TO BUILD IMMEDIATELY.>Alto: Located in the Terali System, location of old Poseidon, this dead toxic world was chosen by the Latuma Tribe as their next destination to 'enlighten'.>Gas Giant #1: Gas source, in hazardous territory>Gas Giant #2: Gas source, in hazardous territory>Gas Giant #3: Gas source, has an asteroid belt present, in hazardous territory>Terrestrial World #1: Mineral Source, in hazardous territory>Terrestrial World #2: Mineral Source, in hazardous territory>Terrestrial World #3: Mineral Source, in hazardous territory>Terrestrial World #4: Mineral Source, in hazardous territory
>>29634235Seconded. This gunna b gud. Might annoy Kronos to death and be seen as petty/a way to exile him, but... >>29634166Send Apollo 600,000 Credits, and one Kronos.
>>29634291Shit has changed since then, the main reason we didn't join the UFW was because we didn't want to attract any attention from the UGEI. They very obviously aren't going to leave us alone now so stronger ties with UFW is a great idea.We don't need to join them, just have a mutual defense pact or whatever.
>>29634235also, show the work to our human crew, Moira and Rachel etc. get their ideas and responses.>>29634166>2 No, give him 200g creditswe will have to hire new human crew members so we can train them up for other jobs.
>>29634166See:>>29634046>2 No, give him 200 000 credits.Make sure he knows that budgeting resources wisely is very much part of creating art, especially of the kind he was meant to do."The best of everything" is rarely necessary to reach a result that is above satisfactory.Another suggestion is for him to interview normal people and create a fascinating and somewhat comedic documentary about the sudden rise of The Guild without ever using any sources beyond what is publicly available and what he can gain from interviews from common men on the street (aka, not Red or the Malorians).
>>29634350>hazardous territoryTime for Kronos to earn his boost, lets send him out to secure this shit.
>>29634002Possible. But large structures like that would require time to build, and a proper planet surface that won't damage the sensitive equipment.>>29634010UFW, you mean. And it was suggested in the past to keep the UFW at arms length. That may be changed, I suppose, with consensus.>>29634235>Suggest Kronos collaborate with ApolloDo you wish to do this?>1 Yes, the exercise will do his mind good.>2 No, he is needed in defense efforts for now>3 Write in>>29634235>DiaryBeen meaning to address. Kronos technically has a sort of diary. His memory core that is. It possesses everything he's every seen, done, etc.>>29634280It is worth noting that Fortuna's loyalty is due to her seeing you as Omnipotent. Compared to her, of course.You can not be wrong to her, right now. But with more bandwidth, she is allowed to think more. And with that comes other thoughts.>>29634309Keep forgetting that...damn it.Writing it down now.>>29634326>Voidsnake V2 was built into a hotel right?More like an orbital truck stop/tavern/embassy/greenhouse/moviestudio/...Uh.It's a lot of things, actually. And Apollo has automated much of the maintenance. Doesn't need employees (labor ones anyway)
>>29634327Incorporating with them would mean we have to follow their laws and regulations. We should definitely talk with their fleet commander (take him up on his offer) about either rebuilding ships for them, or possibly renting out their shipyards. In any case, definitely worth talking to the UFW now. Not sure about incorporating with them, though. I like being our own boss.>Send Apollo help in the form of Kronos.>bad ideaWell, Kronos won't LIKE it (a bloo a bloo cry me a river), but trying new things is the best way to learn! Time to learn to CREATE.
>>29634418>1 Yes, the exercise will do his mind good.Good to know, also can you tell us what hazardous means here >>29634350
It appears giving Apollo 200,000c is agreed on"I do not believe such an amount is wise, Apollo""I know it seems like a lot, Master Ophion, but I assure you, it is a wise investment, I have many many ideas for how my next projects shall be improved!""For now, you shall perform such improvements with a budget. 200,000c for now. Make every credit count.""Hm...As you say, Master Ophion." He says simply with a simple fret.
>>29634418>BunkersDo it. In fact do it on dead worlds. Planets with little atmosphere and little value are actually better for Bunkers then livable ones. >Kornos\Apollo>1 Yes, the exercise will do his mind good.
>>29634426We just need to maintain 51% percent ownership of our shares, the rest can be sold at opportune times to raise money when necessary.
>>29634390well, we need to talk with president King and/or X-ray and get their take if the UFW has the fortitude to take the long haul in this fight with the UGEI. if they are not up for it, joining with them might not be worth it. >>29634350well, after building our defense station, getting a new mining base and gas refinery platforms build will also be needed.
>>296344182. We need Kronos to help us rebuild. Tell Apollo to use the power of the Extranet to find idea men on IRC channels or whatever.>>29634493We should build them on cold worlds, so we can run the servers hotter.
>>29634396I realize I forgot to mention, Moira and her crew have gotten back to work as well.Research Progress on Unit 2237: 50%
Lets devote a few bandwidth to running quests on space /tg/
>>29634511Is that the black box?
>>29634511well shit that was a huge jump.Can we check up on her progress.
>>29634291Agreed, it is starting to look like Emperor/Kronos.Which is why I'm trying to treat him differently from the Emperor and actually be a decent kind of parents.Instead of being mysterious and obtuse we will be transparent. We will show him why we do the things we do, explain our reasoning and intentions in a way that he can follow so that he doesn't have to harbor resentment or thoughts that we abandoned him when we are gone.>>29634326"Hiring" is not necessary./tg/ itself and sites like The SCP Foundation is proof of this.>>29634350Ohyeah, let's equip a destroyer or two with the new engines and send them on a quick scouting run for the closest gas source before we invade the living shit out of them and improve the citizens lot in life!
>>29634493I must rather have mobile bandwidth, even better more defense ships.>>29634497>well, we need to talk with president King and/or X-ray and get their take if the UFW has the fortitude to take the long haul in this fight with the UGEI. if they are not up for it, joining with them might not be worth it. Yeah, I agree.
>>29634418>1It should be interesting to see the results of them working together.I wouldn't mind taking the time for such a building. We could ask the UFW if they wouldn't mind us "buying" or lending us a piece of land to build on. (May or may not be tying to build one on each UFW planet)Which reminds me! Some of us had said that we might look into "upgrading" the radio station.
>>29634478Hazardous means it may contain, but is not limited to>Abnormal Space anomalies>Warp Space disruptions>Lightlings>Losirian Mercs>Slavers>Pirates>Energy Nebula>Plasma Storms>Black Holes>Dying StarsPossibly others
>>29634540>Ohyeah, let's equip a destroyer or two with the new engines and send them on a quick scouting run for the closest gas source before we invade the living shit out of them and improve the citizens lot in life!We have scout ships for a reason, no need to rush into things.
>>29634418>And Apollo has automated much of the maintenance. Doesn't need employees (labor ones anyway)Maybe I was too subtle in my suggestion?
Contact RedandContact Moira and tell her what went down with Rhea.Oh, right, Rhea.Hang on, lemme type that list out.
>>29634418I like closer integration with the UFW, there's little benefit to pretending we don't deal with them anymore.>Suggest Kronos collaborate with Apollo>1 Yes>3 When he is NOT conducting the defense efforts, obviously.>Kronos technically has a sort of diary. And I know he does, but we want him to rephrase what he sees in his own words, make him actually think about what he thinks, what he feels and why he thinks and feels like that.Woo, selling medbays!And we should start buying more raw material and some property on UFW planets to establish some Bandwidth bunkers on.We could also offer to sell comm buoys with access to the extranet to stations that do not have extranet access.And it sounds to me like we should give Voidsnake back some of its old functions. We can even make the robot workers seem like a novelty.
>>29634493>BunkersIn order to properly make this, you will require a large number of industrial sized Construction Drones, an enormous mineral stockpile, and a gas investment to assist with power generation.Currently, you lack the technology to churn up the planet's crust to create such a thing. With research, however, it is very possible.It is also recommended to build such a devices on Cold planets. More net Bandwidth gained>>29634523Indeed.>>29634527You canYou focus in on Moira's crew as they have recently gotten back to work. There appears to have been a large breakthrough in the research process recently, and they've made a lot of progress. Moira twists around in a spinning chair to see you, grinning ear to ear, after giving her some time to calm down from that attack."We're almost there Ophy! This sucker was a tough one, but we finally managed to put him into sleep mode. I'm figuring out how these watcher things work, and if I can do that, then I can replicate it! Just uh, need a bit more time is all." She chuckles a bit. "We'll have more results soon!">>29634588Oh.ooooooh.That is funny. I find this highly amusing.
>>29634418>Suggest Kronos collaborate with ApolloYeah, sure. Also, ask him how he's handling the withdrawal, we should comfort him by telling him that once he has his own black box he'll be able to construct his own power base that will one day exceed the one we currently share.And call him our friend.
>>29634418>1 Yes, the exercise will do his mind good.and he will be needed to help clear out that sector of any problems if they show up.we need to have more victories to show her. that and let her see vid feeds of the UFW people being happy/thankful of us. tell her the fights we go though is worth it. espically children. speaking of med bays. in awhile after the thread, i'll post something over on the 1d4 page about them. but i'll hold off on this for now.
>UFWYou decide it's time to deal with the UFW...somehow.>1 Attempt to reform the alliance they offered you so long ago>2 Do no such thing>3 Write inAdmiral Handley did mention he wished to shake your hand. Perhaps there is some way you can do that?>1 Attempt to do so with Unit 1, using humanoid skin>2 Don't, it was simply being polite>3 Write in
>>29634727Put it in the research queue. I want these ASAP.
>>29634588>Made to order sexbotsThis has potential.
>>29634587And I believe those scout ships are of the destroyer class, no?
>>29634764>You decide it's time to deal with the UFW...somehow.>1 Attempt to reform the alliance they offered you so long ago>3 Write inWe will strengthen our relationship, but not a full on alliance yet.>>29634764>Admiral Handley did mention he wished to shake your hand. Perhaps there is some way you can do that?>1 Attempt to do so with Unit 1, using humanoid skin>3 Write inHave Moira join us.
>>29634727>That is funny. I find this highly amusing.I'm being totally serious. If Voidsnake is a Truck Stop, I see pretty much no downside to it being a Red Light truck stop. Surely SOME individuals we currently employ (or others in the UFW) have always dreamed to work in that profession? It's not really an anarchistic utopia, but baby steps.
You decide to tell Kronos to go and assist Apollo. He seems a bit puzzled by your decision and first, so you explain."It is quite simple. Your new mind capacity surely allows you to think many things. Perhaps you can put it to use and assist your brother.""Yes...my brother." Kronos repeats with a strange sort of laugh. "Perhaps I am able to assist after all." He muses. "I shall go. If assistance is required, I will return as soon as I am able." He says simply, before going dark, leaving you with Fortuna and Hades.
>>29634764>UFW3. Wait until we've talked with the Admiral.>Admiral Handly1. Attempt to do so with Unit1, humanoid skin, but have Moira there as well.
>>29634823Waiting warmly for AI propaganda.
>>29634764>UFW>3 Write inDiscuss the state of matters with President King first>Admiral Handley did mention he wished to shake your hand. Perhaps there is some way you can do that?>3 Write inExplain that we were personally injured in the battle due to an UGEI infiltration operative and we are unable to shake hands at the moment. However, if they can accept a robotic proxy, we would be honored.>>29634690Oh yeah, about Rhea, use my suggest form last thread.Send her to the advanced medical bay, all of her nonessential augments disabled, a thick and sturdy cord plugged directly into her jack. Otherwise, she is to be respected as much as possible and provided with every material comfort that is reasonable. Think of it as seducing. We can withdraw them later.
>>29634764>3 Wait until we have talked to the admiral >1 Attempt to do so with Unit 1. using humanoid skin
>>29634727Can the infrastructure to support them be built in the meantime?Also, until we have such things on our own, can we buy property on an UFW planet and then lease some of the machines and workers needed to build one in the meantime? (As you said, gotta spend our money somewhere)We can also open a store on the property with an advanced medical bay where we sell augmetics as cheaply as we can while still bringing a decent profit.
>>29634823I think we should give the 5 new BCs to Hades. Spread the power around a bit away from Kronos.
>>29634727well, we DO have an ice planet we can use....glad to see you happy now. to Moira and Rachel or any other human we can trust. that we're going to jail two a prisoners down there. they are deadly hostial. keep them in complete lock down." send the V.I. eater virus V.I. and Rhea. i want them both off my ship.
>>29634891Can be please build up bandwidth first? Preferably by expanding our fleet?
>>29634891Uh, no. We're keeping those for ourselves.We're giving stealth craft to Hades after we study the shit out of it. He needs his helmet of invisibility after all.
>>29634899Isn't it the closest planet we have to UGEI space? I'd construct shit on the planets out of harms way. The tradeoff in BW obtained is worth the safety.
>>296347643: Attempt 1, but if Handley sees through our deception, make up some bullshit about our race being largely unable to interact with the world the same way humans do. Try to get them thinking we're squidpeople or something.
>>29634815>Strengthen RelationshipHow would you like to do so? Nations generally like when you offer things, and other such things. Or promise to do things.>>29634818And am considering it. I am just picturing Apollo trying to discern what is 'sexy' and what isn't. I am laughing pretty hard.>>29634888To make a planetwide bandwidth planet, you'll need two research projects, and a deal of time.I feel that is fair for a huge boost to Bandwidth.Battlecruiser distribution>1 Give to Hades, so you don't need to control directly>2 Create a new V.I. to run them for you.>3 Run them yourself at a simple bandwidth cost>4 Write in
Well actually we will be able to build the bunkers if not now very soon.I mean hell. Look at the planets and Gas Giants we just found. Colonization ho!
>>29634955Better short term solution is to establish better connection with the X-ray satellite.
>>29634976Offer to help refurbish their lost/damages BCs from the scrim we had with the UGEI.1. Let Hades run the new BCs to our fleet.
>>29634976>1 Give to Hades, so you don't need to control directlyFirst lets talk to the king/admiral and see what they can offer us and what we can offer them.(maybe use the advanced medbay idea for once)
>>29634976>1 Give to Hades, so you don't need to control directly
>>29634764>1And>1Prepare it with an obvious machine joint for the arm and put on a pretense of being a heavily augmented cyborg without explicitly saying that this is our only body or that it was a result of injury (It IS our body though). Something like:"Some injuries run deep, but thanks to technology I can still stand here before you today with my own two legs.">>29634823B'aaw, missed the part about good reasons he should do so (few if any of which were the improvement to Apollos work)
>>296349761 Give them to hades.Will all of you hold your damn horses with building more BW? We need more resources and more guns, not more brains.As far as talking to the UFW/President King, WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE TALKED WITH HANDLEY.
>>29634976>1 Give to Hades, so you don't need to control directly>>29635010Yeah, I agree. Talk to the admiral first, then the President.
>>29634823tell Hades and Fortuna that Kronos appears to be a bit off. if you detect he is acting agienst my intrests, alert me.>>29634808>>29634770funny, but no. lets keep the smut down guys. this isn't fetish quest here.>>29634764>3 Write inoffer to make a large defense building contract with the UFW. they need war ships, we can build them for them to run. they will need planetary defense systems, we and build them too. >1 Attempt to do so with Unit 1, using humanoid skinwe talked about this on the 1d4 page already.
>>29635039I like it! The own two legs thing is pretty good.
>>29635068That can only go badly. we know kronos is not acting against us, he could have killed us. The paranoia is unfounded as of now.The idea for a large defense building contract has some merit, since itll bring their industry up, give us tech specs and allow us to know the software inside out incase we ever need to hack the ships into submission.
>>29635039>>29635101Only use it if he notices though.
>>29635068>guys i need you to spy on kronosno, we'll sit down and have a heart to heart to him before we do that. he saved our fleet and gave it back despite his programming telling him to expand.
>>29634976Well then, offer the advanced medical bays, greater cooperation, and since we now have more powerful engines, shields and missiles, we can offer engines that are one step more powerful than the last offer without compromising our technological advantage.I very much approve of making Voidsnake a sexy space-truck stop.Woah, woah, woah. I said nothing about making a planetwide bandwidth planet.I said ONE bunker.Surely there's an intermediate stage between "a computer" and "a planet made out of computer"?>Battlecruiser distribution>4Analyze them for design practicalities, especially what they've done for crew comforts and the like which we do not have much experience with.THEN>1 Give to Hades.
>>29634976program0 here>>29635068and i thought we were not into the lewd here. Fortuna is little sister! she is not for lewds! Moira might be however, but it's her choice. >>29634976split the new ships between hades and fortuna.
Rolled 54>>29635068>tell Hades and Fortuna that Kronos appears to be a bit off. if you detect he is acting agienst my intrests, alert me.No.>funny, but no. lets keep the smut down guys. this isn't fetish quest here.It is not for you to decide, but the majority->offer to make a large defense building contract with the UFW. they need war ships, we can build them for them to run. they will need planetary defense systems, we and build them too. No. We need to boost our own numbers, give them some of our new tech instead.>we talked about this on the 1d4 page already.Everyone is not on 1d4chan, as long as the quest runs on /tg/ majority rules, no matter what your little circlejerk ring discusses.
>>29635162>give them some of our new tech instead.I don't see why people are so happy to give tech away i would rather negotiate and make deals since freely giving tech away is bad in idea and a lost chance in my book.
>>29635162>little circlejerk ringOi, there's no need to spread your contempt of fluff to the 1d4 discussion. Otherwise, you may as well spread it to the entire quest.
>>29635124Of course, that was the entire point.We also have a 2nd fallback option (discussed on 1d4chan page) of claiming to be a literal brain in a box if it is somehow discovered that the thing is entirely artificial, so we're pretty well covered with cover-stories.
Rolled 14>>29635206I would rather have well-equipped allies, than allies with sticks and stones
>>29635068>keep the smut downChill out, we're not asking OP to write sex scenes, we're just discussing some business. The most this will ever amount to is>Ophion, the red light business is working very well, profits are very high presently!
>>29635162>>29635206Yeah, stress the need that even though that we have given technology in the past out of goodwill and common defense, the Guild is in dire need of material to rebuild our defenses.
>>29635242Apollo: golden VI god of Robo-hoes.
>>29634764"Admiral Handley, do you read?" You send out the message, and the man instantly picks up, still in orbit as he awaits orders, likely tracking signals to see if the UGEI plan to return."Yes? Guild Master! It seems you're still with us after all. I was worried for a while there." He said with a chuckle. "Your comms went silent. Technical trouble?""Of a sort." You explain simply "However I was wondering if you wished to keep that promise?" He seems a little puzzled at first, before opening his eyes wide"Ha, it wasn't a promise, simply a wish. But since I made it, both arms in tact, why not? Shall we meet on your ship?""I would prefer to meet in neutral territory. One of my Explorers perhaps?" You suggest. At that, the man gives a salute. "It'll be an honor to meet the man who saved Nethlos from the Toothy menace." He grins. You pause. "I will bring one of my subordinates to meet you, if that is okay." You suggest, to which he nods. "Of course. I'll bring an officer, or two. Protocol and all that." He says waving his hand.With that, you contact Moira, who looks up from her work a little puzzled when you ask her if she'd come with you."I got a little work down here, sweetie, but...who are you meeting anyway?""Admiral Handley. I considered bringing a subordinate with me to meet him face to face." Her face goes white for a moment."Wha...The Admiral Handley? The same one who lead the original assault to fight back against the UGEI?!" She sputters. "Wow...that's a great chance!" She grins widely suddenly. "Ah, but this work..." She looks to it fondly, pouting. "Wait, how are you going to...meet anyone face to face?" She asked, confused again."My androids. I possess several that should pass as human just fine." You remind her."Ah, right...I..uh, are you sure that's a good idea? What if he...ya know...can tell?"What is the plan?>1 Bring Moira>2 Go alone>3 Write In
>>29635241ah ,but i rather have well equipped allies that know we aren't a push over and are deeply in need of us.
>>29635242Agreed, it's a good idea imo.
>>29635162the majority does not equal you alone anon. you really have no idea what goes into this quest do you?>>29635136... ya know Sub, at this rate, we should upgrade voidsnake outpost into a full side station. if it's to be a space-truck stop, it'll need to be bigger. that and we can rent out space to other people to run the red light parts and not us.
>>29635269>1 Bring MoiraAsk her to dress the android appropriately.
>>29635269>"Ah, right...I..uh, are you sure that's a good idea? What if he...ya know...can tell?"Claim that we use an android body as an avatar, because it presents a tactical advantage to us to not reveal who or what we are. Keeps enemies guessing. Maybe it's a little bit suspicious, but we wish the UFW nothing but the best, as they are our allies.1. Bring her, but she's not reveal who we are.
>>29635269>1 Bring MoiraAnd no one else.
>>29635162I agree with you but you should be aware that your hostile tone is counter productive.
>>29635125I agree with this anon.We may need to rein him in or at least make sure he won't turn against us, but this is not the way to do it.>>29635162You have a very crass attitude, mate.>>29635206We're doing it because we have an abundance of it. We're still SEVEREAL levels above what we're giving them.We can negotiate and make deals on top of that (please suggest some if you can think of them) but for now it's a very cheap (for us) way of strengthening our bond with our allies.
>>29635269>1 Bring MoiraAlso be "honest" with the Admiral about the robotic proxy, that we are too injured to attend personally, but we have the deepest thanks and wish to shake their hand never the less.
>>29635136I'll just do a tiny vote to make sure>Advanced Medbays>1 Use as Diplomatic tool>2 Sell for lots of dough>3Keep secret>4 Write in
>>29635269>1 Bring Moira"I have a cover story for that if he does notice. Or would we rather tell him the truth about me?"
>>29635136>One bunkerYou'd simply need one research project, then. No biggie.
>>29635375>2 Sell for lots of dough
>>29635375>1 Diplomatic tool
>>29635375>1 Use as Diplomatic tool>2 Sell for lots of doughInstead of money maybe we can get more info from their academy for our workers.
>>29635242Incidentally, I find the idea of Red Light District in space very amusing. Space Dandy anyone?
>>29635294The way you act I would like to propose that you stay on 1d4chan, creating fluff and whatnot. I think you mixing the roles of both player and creator of this game is weird.
>>29635269>Bring MoiraShe's our trusted lieutenant. Plus, she can help give a human face to associate with us.But explain why we have the android, if he notices, like >>29635338 or >>29635371>>29635375>4 Sell it for cheap. Enough to help cover a little bit of our damages, but cheap enough to be a gift. Say something like "a special deal for our friends, the UFW."
>>29635375>4 Write inUse it for both diplomatic and trade.
>>29635375>>29635375>4 Write intalk to president King before we start selling or giving out the med bays.
>>29635375>>1 Use as Diplomatic tooalso i'm in favor of offering any tech that are one level below our current in quality to the UFW
>>29635375>1 Use as Diplomatic toolselling the blue prints, or offering to make one (provided were given the resources) is an option of course.
>>29635375>1 Use as Diplomatic tool>2 Sell for lots of doughStress that while we would wish that we could gave it away for goodwill and strengthening common allies, the recent battle has left a significant material shortage. We would greatly appreciate it if we can strengthen ties and receive rebuilding materials in exchange.
>>29635375>1 Use as Diplomatic tool>2 Sell for lots of dough>4 Write inOffer it as a cheap deal, and that we would transport them for free.
>>29635375Diplomatic tool, or as a cheap "sell"
>>29635395Time to begin project bunker!And really once we get to planet wide ones the next step will be Dyson's Spheres.
>>29635375This here>>29635470but do this first>>29635451>talk to president King before we start selling or giving out the med bays.
What if we requested something besides money? Like renting their shipyards for ship constructions.
>>29635375>2 Sell for lots of doughKeep their method of creation to ourselves and sell them to anyone in the UFW at 50% more than what it takes to make them. I'd prefer to be paid in materials.
>>29635446i can see that. i will back that as well.>>29635438 welcome to 4chan, you must be new here.
>>29635499>Like renting their shipyards for ship constructions.the other way around right?We have better ship yards since they are made for robots if i remember correctly.
>>29635225>>29635359I do love how supportive - even when they disagree with someone's choice - the anons in this tread are.Is like we're drawing out the best elements of /tg/ and putting them in a single stewpot.Moralfag Quest is go>>29635269>3Ask her if she thinks it's worthwhile. Unless she's in a stage where she loses hours of progress by taking a short break, I see little reason why it would not be worth the time investment.We can also explain our two layers of cover story to her to assuage her fears.
>>29635269Also, since it's warrented a lot of discussion, secondary vote>1 Pretend you're some mysterious type of alien to the Admiral, one that needs an android to interact with humans normally>2 Claim you're similar to Rhea, and in fact, simply a human in a heavily modified body. Chance of disgust, due to UFW discrimination against heavy mods, but possible sympathy from the "War is bad" angle>3 Hide yourself as human, and play dumb otherwise>4 Hide self as human but if he objects or points out something suspicious, let him make assumptions, if he wishes, it matters not to you.(1d100 Persuasion)Also Hades won the 'who gets the goods' vote
>>29635513>>29635438One of you two has to stop being faggots and let it go.
>>29635513He's new because he doesn't want you backseat QMing? Okay.
Rolled 67>>29635524>4Imply that it is impractical/impossible for us to be there in person. It's not lying, after all.
Rolled 11>>29635524>4 Hide self as human but if he objects or points out something suspicious, let him make assumptions, if he wishes, it matters not to you.
>>29635375>4Do both >1 and >2Use the prospect of setting up advanced medbays (owned by us and treatments sold by us for a profit) as a diplomatic offer.Or a form of licensing.>>29635395Darn. Oh well, let's get to producing our Research A.I., then!
Rolled 52>>29635524>>4 Hide self as human but if he objects or points out something suspicious, let him make assumptions, if he wishes, it matters not to you.
Rolled 14>>29635524>1 Pretend you're some mysterious type of alien to the Admiral, one that needs an android to interact with humans normally>2 Claim you're similar to Rhea, and in fact, simply a human in a heavily modified body. Chance of disgust, due to UFW discrimination against heavy mods, but possible sympathy from the "War is bad" angleTell him we used to be a UGEI experiment that escaped.
>>296355245: write in.Hide self as human, but if he objects or points out anything suspicious, tell him that IT IS A STRATEGIC ADVANTAGE TO NOT REVEAL WHO OR WHAT WE ARE. If Handley makes assumptions, so do our enemies, and their assumptions are probably wrong, and this prevents them from accurately predicting our tactics.
Rolled 77>>29635524>4 Hide self as human but if he objects or points out something suspicious, let him make assumptions, if he wishes, it matters not to you.If he notices something, we'll play along as needed. Default excuse is serious injury from battle.
>>29635435... thanks Program0, i am now seeing this whole quest in anime style. now i wonder by what studio to animate it and by what head artist?
>>29635375It appears "Use as diplomatic tool, by selling it more cheaply, by discussing terms with President King" wins.Will handle that after the Admiral bits.
>>29635552The 1d4chan wiki has a talk page where a lot of side discussion happens. Program0 answers a bunch of technical questions about how certain things (warp drives, V.I., BW, construction, weapons/defenses, xenos, etc) work in-universe, and the design for new ships and androids were discussed there over the course of a few weeks.
>>29635609I'm good with that, i'm mostly away giving away stuff for free unless there is a gain for us.
>>29635652*i was mostly against giving away
>>29635630Additionally, possible research options, money-making options, resource options, etc get posted there. There's less of a time constraint to discuss things there than there is in these threads, so the talk page presents a good opportunity to bounce ideas around and think about them in-depth.Also, I wrote a thing.
>>29635652Well the benefit would have been that our allies are better equipped to help us while still being an order of magnitude or two less advanced than we are. Also their respect and admiration of us would grow.
>>29635524And it seems 4 wins!Good roll too
Rolled 40>>29635435I admit, when Apollo first said he'd found visual arts of a certain kind to be a booming and profitable industry, I thought he was planning to produce and sell pornographic animations and "realdolls".>>29635438We're all creators of this setting, mate.The world takes shape as we offer input, and Program0 considers it.A not-insignificant part of what the Quest looks like now was developed by players and QM in a collaborative effort.>>29635524>4But if we are discovered, I vote we keep >2in mind if it seems like a practical option (aka, i is assumptions take him dangerous places or are actually less flattering than a heavily modified human).
>>29635652>gain for usthe gain is better relations and compensation for our (almost) allies in helping us in the last battle
>>29635552Bud, the 1d4 page is basically where Program0 and Subrountine hash out technical details and ships.And since when where you under the impression that we gave fluff's occasional rambling as much as Program's?I can understand your contempt for him, but ceasing hostility until he spectacular screws up is the best choice.
>>29635581>You are the Frankenstein that got awayHeh.
>>29635524>4 Hide self as human but if he objects or points out something suspicious, let him make assumptions, if he wishes, it matters not to you.well, we do have the chance to make the play that we are an exile from the UGEI and have a kill on site orders on us. my true id must be kept no matter what.
>>29635690>>29635686Like i siad i was good with it and the only problem i had was giving it away with out no real gain to us.>>29635271Like i said here.
>>29635681WhoaI'll read it in a bit.first, gonna start Writing this big post up I think
>>29635652It's information, we can give it away and still have it. It's not like we're giving them our best stuff anyway.
>>29635714Or a space gremlin.Not knowinga) doesn't matter to him, as he's not an enemyb) pokes less potential holes in our war machine as information won't leak out if we don't present it
>>29635686I'm in full agreement with that but we need to stress to President King that if we can receive material support, it would accelerate our recovery and help our common defense.
>>29635725It's mostly a joke.>>29635745Did you know that UFW doesn't have schematics for gas giant refineries? It's true! We have them, though.Maybe we can offer them schematics for material support in building our fleet for the purpose of both defending ourselves and attacking UGEI?
>>29635688>PornHe's seen a lot. But he doesn't have the models yet to make the good stuff (since really good porn is the only kind that would sell, with so much free stuff online)>>29635747I giggled>Writing after a short bathroom and food break, sorry about delay, had to catch up with the thread for questions
Rolled 4>>29635766we offer thme those schematics for a percentage of the gas they extract
>>29635729I'm thinking about our current situation and that means we need to rebuild fast and a good way to do that is making deals and trade agreements.I'm just saying those very agreements can and will help our allies better since it would be at a cheaper price and maybe made at our own expense.
>>29635513That's not backing down, Fluffprovider.Relax, you saw that noone really approved of his tone.>>29635552This does actually imply that you are new to this quest.See >>29635630We even discuss how to balance the game how some things can work mechanically to make it fun while lessening the complexity for the QM.This quest genuinely is a collaborative effort - we are all part of shaping this world, just as we are part of shaping the story.And it's proven to be a very good thing so far.>>29635681Gonna have to look that sh*t up.
>>29635693hey now, i do provide SOME assist as well. the Wombat and Vulture class ships were my idea.>>29635714I'm ok with this.
>>29635766And if anyone complains about "a bloo a bloo a bloo gas prices will go down because there will be more gas mined and therefore more supply!" I say to you that we will probably never actually sell our surplus resources ever.>>29635786Probably the best idea, but I'm not seeing how a) we will enforce itb) we will be better than UGEI by doing this
>>29635693I am aware of the 1d4chan page. But you are right, I'll stop the hostilities.
>>29635681>Try to communicate, but sound an airhorn whenever she tries to say anything.
>>29635805>And if anyone complains about "a bloo a bloo a bloo gas prices will go down because there will be more gas mined and therefore more supply!" I say to you that we will probably never actually sell our surplus resourceThis was never mention when we first got the schematics.Actually the gas refinery idea was put on the back burner alot by program, like the advanced medbay idea was because people kept forgetting about it.At the time we came up with 4 different plans.1.Build the refineries our self and sell them.2.Make the gas refineries our self and rent them3.Same as 1 and 2, but give it a spy virus4.Sell the schematics, but have them promise 25-50 of the gas.3.
>>29635766We could give them the plans for gas sstations in exchange for a fraction of whatever they mine for like 5 years or something.
>>29635766We have a number of useful technologies, both military and nonmilitary that are very useful. Say we would give them for free, but we are also in dire need of rebuilding our defense.>>29635786It would be better to exchange schematics for a very heavy percentage subsidy/price reduction for all gas purchased from the UTW.
>>29635805I think it's better to invest our gas surplus into useful defenses and construction
>>29635766>>29635786I like this. I like this a lot. It would seriously help our ally, and it would seriously help our gas economy.We weren't exactly planning to take those gas planets from them anyway.Also, we should produce a Research/Scientist V.I. to aid our scientists and/or work on his own project.It can be a major boon to scientists in one subject since it can learn enough quickly enough to be omnidisciplinary instead of an expert in only one field, allowing it to blend technology and idea from different fields together to solve problems in ways none have ever thought of before due to its dual understanding.It also allows us to effectively research things that are not robotics, such as architecture and engineering design.(Fun note, only one person - Marie Curie - has ever gained a Nobel price in more than one field of scientific study)
>>29635771i bet we don't need to make 'realdolls' to run the red light. there are plently of humans to do that job. but we COULD take commisions to make them for people would would slap down the credits for one. hey, more money for us!>>29635788i'll stop. i can see that as well now.>>29635681SO MANY THINGS! hum.... i say if we can get a DNA sample from her, clone her a new no cyber body and move her mind into it. or just clone up body parts of her and replace her cyber parts with flesh ones. it's a heck of thing to become a normal human again after being a super killer gynoid. that and she'll be so much easier to deal with.
>>29635681I'm only really interesting in the last one. Am I the only one interested in making peace with your enemies?Also, I'm still a fan of a ghost in the shell merge, but done right this time.
>>29635791He didn't say you didn't, he just said you didn't have as much pull as the actual QM, which none of us do. Program0 is the ultimate arbitrator of what makes it into the game, after all.>>29635805Is true, we're actually buying gas right now.>>29635852Licensing them in return for a decent percentage(40%?) of the gas (For, say, 10 years?)does seem pretty much optimal.>>29635869>>29635875See? They agree with me!That means our plan is flawless, right?
>>29636012Fuck no, she is a huge cunt, i would rather have her be a meat suit.
>>29636043Didn't Red have a thing with her? Lets let him offer some input on what we should do to her.
>>29636027Just saying I agree with you do to our extreme need of rebuild our defense.>>29636043That's one possibility, but I rather have her intact as much as possible. She's an extremely capable infiltration specialist, I would love to have her on our side.>>29636066Good idea I guess
>>29636066Also get Kronos' opinion too.
>>29636027eh i would like to discuss on how we handle the gas refineries like i said here>>29635852, since all ideas are solid.
>>29636012i would love to flip Rhea to our side. Ghost in the shell? i'm iffy on that. but i am loving on 'romance of the three kingdoms'! turning foes into allies was damn important back then, it has not changed all that much. We need to look up Sun Tzu's art of war.
>>29636066He wants to kill her.
>>29636012There's not many things on that list that are meaningful or constructive, and the only one that I personally support is the one I put last.Unless she insists on being uncooperative, in which case we could explore other options."Exile to death world" is hilarious, but probably not as useful as using her as a meat puppet.>>29636027But that's pretty much what UGEI do! The whole "licensing fees+build it+take care of it+80% of all resources mined"Although the "it's automated+you get to do whatever you want with it after 5 years" is a little bit better... but still. 40% SOUNDS like a lot. Maybe we can say "a third of gas mined for five years, or until the conflict with UGEI is concluded, whichever is first" as the terms. There isn't a gigantic difference between 40% and 33%, but "third" sounds more fair than "40%"
>>29636066oh lord! i nearly forgot about him. we NEED to call him up and tell him we caged Rhea!
>>29636105>i would love to flip Rhea to our side.i just don't think that will be likely without screwing with her mind, i much rather just use her for science.
>>29636116>"Welcome back Red, do you remember what you said about revenge...?"
>>29636143Hold off on that until we've talked to Rhea. We may not want to kill her just yet, and that's what Red will probably suggest.
>>29635771You don't really need to make the top notch to draw views, though. And as long as what you do draws gifs, you can make profit by selling exposure to advertisers of products, or even push our own products (like the realdolls, augmetics and good education programs aboard the Poseidon).And making pretty damn good 2d stuff might take as little time as rendering a gif for a V.I. could it not?>>29635681I'm going to be boring and vote for the last one.(Though the 2nd to last one seems interesting if she gets annoying. Also usable for other annoying people)
>>29636105I'm thinking long term. Ther long term solution of peace between AI and biological life will be synthesis, but not the shitty kind in Mass Effect 3.>>29636140>>29636148I understand it's very unlikely, but it wouldn't help to at least make the effort. We have plenty of fallback options. There is a reason in real life American treat their prisoners well.
>>29636176Indeed.We need the option to at least explore her side of things before we do anything. She is from a faction big on the brain washed masses front remember.
>>29636195Yeap, totally agree with you.
>>29636140>But that's pretty much what UGEI do! The whole "licensing fees+build it+take care of it+80% of all resources mined"Like you said it's not forever, and the exact % is negotiable but we're nothing like the UGEI when we do this, we're offering them an ability to mine resources that don't have at the moment. It's a business transaction, not a permanent mandatory tax.
>>29636186>in real life American treat their prisoners wellnope the reason they are treated well is because it would be bad for business for the people who own the prisons.
>>29636105Tvtropes has the most important parts of the Art of War, actually.>>29636012I'm also somewhat interested in seeing if she can be turned through sensible dialogue.Alternatively, if that doesn't work, if we can do the 2nd to last one and then go looking through her memories for intel.>>29636140Yeah, it does sound a lot more fair, let's go with your suggestion.
>>29636233I meant prisoners of war. Turns out if you treat them nicely and with respect, a lot of them flip and give you the information you need. It's every useful and practical. Also, they surrender a lot more often.
>>29636270>I'm also somewhat interested in seeing if she can be turned through sensible dialogue.>Alternatively, if that doesn't work, if we can do the 2nd to last one and then go looking through her memories for intel.Yeah that what I meant. If talking doesn't work, every single option is still on the table.
"I am certain I wish to meet him. My android is of an excellent model. If the Admiral wishes to shake my hand, he shall get the chance. It matters not if he realizes I am using a droid. His concerns are not my own." You say simply. This earns a worried look from Moira, but she seems to agree finally. She does not have many 'outfits' apparently, since she spends much of her time locked away in a lab, or behind a workbench. She does manage to fish out an older casual outfit. It's hardly formal, but you're certainly not one to talk. Synthetic clothes are rather easy to make, even if they take a few hours. But for now, the Admiral has waited long enough, and so you commission Unit 1 to meet Moira and travel to meet the Admiral on neutral ground. Unit 1 is a rather bland male model, with a few imperfections placed to resemble humans. However, Moira seems surprised to see the figure, especially when your 'voice' comes out of it."Welcome." You say, as she steps in with a rather modest casual wear to match the same on your Android. Clothes didn't provide many benefits, except in social matters. You predict these will do just fine. As you approach, Moira takes a deep breath, seeming to try and prepare herself for something, as she hooks an arm over Unit 1's."What are you doing?" You ask out of curiosity."Well you were bringing me along to pretend to be arm-candy, weren't you?" You make a puzzled face using Unit 1's best "what?" expression."No, I am bringing you as one of my top subordinates. Bringing a-" You pause, researching the term she used. "-n attractive female meant to grab attention would not assist this matter, it would only distract.""Wha-" She says, her face contorted in a mix of embarrassment and fluster. "What are you trying to say, huh!?" She orders of you, earning another confused glance."That this is simply a business meeting for diplomatic relations." You clarify. You didn't realize it was unclear before.(Cont)
Moira takes a moment to calm herself, though she retains the pout on her face for a time longer, upset at her own embarrassing misread, perhaps. You care not.Admiral Handley appears quite quickly once you've docked, the man is rather young looking despite his beard-the only sign of age on him. He is well muscled however, suggesting he partakes in extra gravitational exercise. You wonder what purpose that would have for a fleet commander. Perhaps just for his health.He approaches Unit 1 quickly, giving the humanoid only one second glance, before reaching out a gloved hand proudly. He grins a bit, as you get a better look of him and his officers-a woman and another man at his side, likely guards just in case. He is not cautious however, as the stars on his formal jacket shake a bit from the strength in which you shake his hand. You carefully measured the pressure, so as to not make it suspicious either."It's a pleasure, Guild Master, heh." He grins, bowing his head to you both. "And to you, miss...""Moira D-..ah, Dickens." She smiles widely to him, attempting to remain appealing perhaps, though you're uncertain why she used a fake last name. "It's a real honor to meet you, Mr Handley." She says with a wide grin, and you swear, attempting to hide her accent slightly.What would you like to discuss with Mr Handley? Or was shaking his hand like a man good enough, and you simply wished to do congratulations in person?
>>29636186I don't really see why there needs to be a "solution" as such. There is no real reason why we'd have to fight.I would like to hear what you mean by "Synthesis". You mean that we should all become cyborgs?>>29636186Only if they're political prisoners of war.Unless they're terrorists. Like Anonymous or the Occupy movement.If they're regular prisoners they get tossed into a privatized and very loosely regulated industry of private prisons.
>>29636233I think the reference is to people who are not in jail yet. People who have both information and charges against them can be persuaded to talk by means of something like a plea deal."We don't charge you with everything we have on you, but you need to tell us information that is useful to us in order to [x].">>29636306I wrote the list up as a kind of "thing" to give to her to peruse if she doesn't want to cooperate.
>>29636356We could always float the idea of an alliance past him since we have the opportunity.
>>29636356Discuss at the VERY LEAST a Non Agression Pact, maybe a Mutual Defense Pact, in case those bastards come back.In the meantime, discuss things such as the salvage from the battle and how it will be split. Perhaps some compensation, since we did take the brunt of the attack.Finish off on a lighter note: Discuss selling the medical tech: Since we're such good friends, we can give them a special discount price on this. Or just give it to them. While there may not be many injured, surely it could help in other areas.Perhaps, if they did agree to the treaties, then maybe we could sell them some other technology? All at reasonable prices, of course.
>>29636356"Likewise, admiral."Thank him for his timely aid. Ask him if there is something we can assist him with. Perhaps reparations for the lost ships? Talk about that, then offer to him the information that Tartarus jumped to defend Gaia from a rather well-timed attack by the Malorian fleet that was intent on burning the populace. I mention this in order to get him to talk both about the Malorians (and any relations they have) as well as his opinions on burning the population of a world (we don't agree with doing that, obviously)Then perhaps bring up the idea of a counterattack on the UGEI. It's no use to dance around it now. We (the guild) have earned their perpetual ire, and UGEI will not stop. The UFW need not go into combat with us, but we are open to opinions and possible other avenues of support. Maybe tactical assistance?
>>29636356>Or was shaking his hand like a man good enough, and you simply wished to do congratulations in person?Basically this."Sir, it's an honor finally meeting you and on behalf of the Guild, I would like to personally thank you for saving us and turning the tide against the UGEI. The Guild values all sentient life in the galaxy and their freedom, but it's very unfortunate that the UGEI decides to make war upon us.Let us continue to work together in common defense against the UGEI oppression, and may the UGEI remember the day it again failed to make us knee.">>29636448Better to talk to the President about that.
>>29636448>>29636484Better not to ask for reparations for lost ships, but to ask for material support for rebuilding our common defense.
>>29635681This is completely awesome by the way.>1>Implying she wouldn't become Super Saiyan Rambo: The Revengence>2>Murrrriiiiicaaaaa>Freeze, unfreeze to torment>Feels Glados up in here>Use airhorn so she can't talkBeautiful
>>29636356>>29636448Actually, perhaps a technology exchange is in order. Any tech that we have that they don't, we could fairly trade for their tech if we don't have it. It will only help to increase our relations and our strength.What tech do they have, Program0? I'm interested to see what we will be able to get from them. Or maybe, if they don't have any tech that we could use, then still trade tech to them for other non-material things. Instead of minerals or credits, which they probably want to hold on to, we could possibly haggle for rights to certain things: Mining rights to planets, salvage rights for battles, information and maps, other things like that.
>>29636356I'm letting others do the "talking" part, but what i'm interested in is when we are done asking why Moira didn't use her real last name.
>>29636356We wish to discuss what else we can do to improve the dynamic between our fleets and voice that we've been playing around with the idea of offering them gas stations, note that we're having gas issues ourselves and we're unsure what would constitute the best deal for both of our factions.Later, we should make note to Moira that we did not mean to imply she did not look good enough to be arm-candy, we simply saw her as a competent roboticist and officers first and foremost.Then note that it would be unbecoming of the leader of an organization such as the guild to be commenting on the physical appearance of his lieutenants, no matter how appealing.(To be clear, this is an attempt to reinforce loyalty, not starting a 'what is this thing you call love' kind of plot. It is very much intended to be a calculated message than an expression of our true (lack) of feelings on the matter)
>>29636524>>29636548I rather discuss this with the president and I want to exchange tech for raw resources to rebuild our fleet.Also, I like your idea of reinforcing that this is our top researcher, one out of many saved and while she probably appreciates your comments, I would like to keep this professional.
>>29636356See if he has an opinion on our idea to give them mining station tech in exchange for a % of gas mined.
>>296365141 is also a reference to the Viral V.I. they left.2 is a reference to UGEI politics
>>29636616Not the right person to talk to, the President is the one that has authority to make deals like this.
>>29636609Fair enough, despite the Admiral's rank, he might not have the authority to trade us some of those things.Also, I agree with keeping things professional with Moira. At least during business hours.
>>29636658Sure, but we can float the idea by him and get some insight on what President King might say.
>>29636484>I mention this in order to get him to talk both about the Malorians (and any relations they have) as well as his opinions on burning the population of a world (we don't agree with doing that, obviously)I like this. Maybe even the reparations if he offers something more.>>29636514Sadistic GLaDOS-level humor at its finest, isn't it?>>29636524Primarily, we need gas. Which is why we discussed giving licensing gas schematics to them in exchange for a third of what they produce for a five year period or until the war with the UGEI has been won, whichever comes first.(I am confident that by the time either of those run out the gas we are getting from them will be considered a negligible amount)
>>29636658If he's some sort of super admiral that everyone respects there's nothing lost by getting his opinion.
>>29636675>>29636688Ok, good point
>>29636609I also like the idea of presenting Moira as our top researcher.
>>29636270i HAVE a paper and ink copy of it. well, somewhere in the mess of books i got anyway.>>29636547um, maybe she's worried they may know she's an immigrent from the UGEI and be distrustful?
>>29636609>>29636658>>29636670We will discuss it with the President as well, but it gives a good impression and is practical to discuss it with an actual warrior that is painfully aware of what his forces lack the most.And is NOT a politican.I'm essentially trying to get a 2nd opinion on the state of the UFW, what they lack and what they can offer.And I suggested we should say as much later, not in this company. That would be silly.
as far as reparations/payment, i was suggesting that WE offer to pay them or build them ships. in retrospect, forget the whole deal. let him bring it up if he wants.
>>29636835Not so much a fan using the word reparations. Just use the phrase "material support to rebuild our defenses"
>>29636901no no, you misunderstand. that's requesting materials for us. i was suggesting rebuilding the UFW's lost ships.
>>29636901Oh, ok. Not sure we have the resources or time to do that at the moment.
"And who is your subordinate exactly, if you don't mind my asking, sir?" The man asks you, and you quickly reply."One of my top brightest researchers. Her abilities alone have helped get me where I am today." This news seems to surprise him, and he gives her a more formal bow, to which she does one of her own, muttering a small word of thanks. You begin next"Sir, it is an honor finally meeting you and on behalf of The Guild, I would like to personally thank you for your excellent response time and in turning the tide of that battle. We could not have done it without you." You express to the man firmly. Your words bring pride to the man's eye, as he watches you with a grin, obviously in agreement."We provided support, but it is your Capital ship that managed to turn this tide in your favor. I do not know how you managed it, Guild Master. Obtaining this ship. But however you did, it may just be the key to winning a free Frontier from the UGEI."You intend to discuss with him...Relations>1 Defense Pact between the UFW, and the Guild>2 Non Aggression Pact with the UFW and the Guild>3 Full on AllianceSharing debris (specify a % if you wish)>1 Yes (%)>2 NoDiscuss Malorians>1 What about?>2 NoneTech>1 Share (Specify) for (Specify)>2 Don't share>SalvageMost of the losses are in your territory. They don't seem to feel right claiming it. You're free to share, if you chose.>>29636524The UFW still use Tier 1 tech, mostly. They don't have the ability to research anything too substantial for themselves.And do keep in mind, any of these topics may be discussed with the President instead, if you prefer. If so, simply add (To the President) in your post for discussion topics.>>29636670The Admiral's word will help, no doubt. He does like you already.
>>29636968We didn't say we'd supply the resources, we can supply the shipyards nearby, though.
>>29637000>3 Full on Alliance>1 Yes (%)70% for us since we did lose a lot.>2 None>1 Share (Specify) for (Specify)The advance medical bay if they don't already have it>SalvageNah, don't share.
>>29637000>Tier 1Holy shit we need to sell these guys some tech asap, we don't want shit allies.
>>29637000>3 Full on AllianceThe possibility and implications of a full on alliance.Sharing debris (specify a % if you wish)Just offer to see if he wants any. He did lose some.Discuss MaloriansThe implications on their attack on Gaia. Also, apparently the UGEI has miscounted our allies. This particular fact probably shouldn't leave this room.TechDiscuss the probable tech transfer, and the material support we can expect to rebuild defenses.OtherOffer fleet upgrades for outdated ships.
>>29637000>Relations>1 Defense Pact between the UFW, and the Guild>Sharing debris (specify a % if you wish)>>1 Yes (20%)They only helped turn the tide.>Discuss Malorians>2 None
Wow, I forgot that we're running today - I have a lot to catch up on.Updated map - descriptions to be added to the wiki soon.
>>2963700011 30%22 we need to talk to the president.
>>29637000>1 Defense Pact between the UFW, and the GuildDebris>2 Noit's all going into the smelter and into new ships anyway.Malorians>1 What about?we were able to use them to our advantage. the foe of my foe and all that.Tech>1 Share gas refinery tech, maybe others
>>29637138as i am on mobile again, i will simply second this.
>>29637184should we upgrade the scout with the new engines and cloak and send him off again?
>>29637000Relations>1Sharing Debris>Yes (Proportionate to percentage of total losses were ours)Discuss Malorians>1 It appears that they had ised our battle to attack a UGEI world. However, I do not believe that this will make them our friends. I suggest not antagonizing them, and use them to our advantage if the UGEI attacks us again.Tech>1 (All) for (All) as long as it's a reasonably fair trade.
>>29637000>1 Defense Pact between the UFW, and the Guild>1 Yes (20-30%)>2 None>2 Don't share this is above his pay grade we talk to the president.
>>29637214Cloak it and have it investigate the resource points more closely to identify what the hazards actually are so we can send Kronos in to secure them.
>>29637000I'm actually gonna vote for >3 Full on Alliance.There's little reason to avoid this any longer, we have pretty much all the drawbacks of one, let's garner the benefits.>Sharing debris (specify a % if you wish)>No, let's not even mention it.>Discuss Malorians>1 See >>29636484>Tech>1 Licensing Gas Refinery Schematics to them for a third of their collected gas over a period of 5 years or when the war with the UGEI ends, as suggested by >>29636140Would like to make note that we are just floating these ideas by him.Would prefer a 2nd vote if he offers to and has the authority to formally accept them.
>>29637251i just want to know what comes with a full on Alliance.
>>29637000Program0, just wondering, is Gaia IV still sensor blocked? Does the UGEI still have a presence there?
>>29637000Relations>1 Defense Pact between the UFW, and the GuildSharing debris (specify a % if you wish)>1 Yes (%)30% seems reasonable.Discuss Malorians>1 What about?A possible alliance, but its too early to know.Tech>1 Share (Specify) for (Specify)>2 Don't shareOnly for selling at a cheaper price, i also prefer talking to his boss about this one.SalvageKeep all of it.
>>29637000>1 Defense pact >Yes (Let others chose percent)>1 Share Med bays and mention that we might be able to help them upgrade their ships.
>>29637184Descriptions of new destinations:Neutral SystemsKlintok SystemGrinsash/4567: Superheavy’ gas giant in a close orbit of the system’s yellow star. No UGEI refinery detected. Anomaly 1: Scans of the system have revealed a high energy gas cloud ring locked in a distant orbit from the system’s star. Further investigation is suggested.Anomaly 2: Additionally, scans of the system have picked up warp-space disruptions, but the precise location of the disruptions proved impossible to ascertain. Further investigation is suggested.Atocian Reach Atocia I: The sole remaining terrestrial body orbiting a white dwarf star, Atocia I is locked in a deep freeze despite far beyond the habitual zone. However, scans of the system have picked up a graveyard of ships orbiting the world of unknown design and classification. Further investigation is suggested.Rane Expanse Kalla/458 & Kalla/459: Scans of this system have revealed the existence of two medium-sized ice gas giants. It is not presently known why the UGEI have not claimed the system for themselves. Further investigation is suggested.Dresh System Dresh Alpha & Beta: Two barren terrestrial worlds located slightly beyond the system’s habitual belt.Aquil: A small terrestrial world located on the innermost boundary of the system’s habitual belt. Scans of the system have revealed that a rather large asteroid belt orbits the planet – due to the existence of a high number of metals in this belt, detailed scans of the planet itself proved impossible. Further investigation is suggested.
>>29637089Agreed, that's a bit unworkable at this point.How about we offer everything up to 2 tiers below ourselves, that way we still have one more tier to trade favors for without having them on the same level as we are.
>>29637394why not just trade favors to them for tier 2 for cheap and offer regular prices for tier 3?
>>29637285And that is why we are floating the suggestion by him, not actually accepting it.Finding out exactly what an alliance would entail is just one of the many benefits of suggesting the possibility to him before introducing it to the president.
>>29637394That seems reasonable, we could probably get a lot of resources out of them in exchange too. It'll probably end up being less than they're worth but enough to speed along our recovery.
>>29637436Because giving them for free leaves them with a debt of gratitude which is greatly lessened by selling them cheaply, even if the price we ask is just symbolic, they still paid for it.
>>29637389well, we have upgraded the explorer ship, let make a second sweep of the same system for more info? but the Klintok and Rane should be grabbed right now and slap gas refinerys on them.
>>29637483We can't build ships with gratitude m8.
>>29637483>free leaves them with a debt of gratitudethat is the thing we are doing this to a nation not a single person, if it was a person then i would be more inclined to agree with you, but most countries and alliances work out better from trade agreements and deals then empty promises.
>>29637436why would we string them along like that? just to milk them of money?
>>29637436I do agree that we should offer the tier just below us for regular prices, but now right now.Let us first get them used to the tier we're offering right now, so they don't see that we're actively holding things back even while we offer to become their allies.Oh, and the "2 tiers below up" offer should be part of the offer to bring an alliance.(In essence, I am trying to trade favors that cost us little, saving favors that cost us little more since they'll be far more valuable if we give them out a few at a time than if we gave them all at once. For example, we're gaining no extra gratitude whatsoever from offering them 2 tiers rather than 1 at one since they won't really use the lower tier stuff, but it's simply not sustainable to have them remain that weak, otherwise I'd be in favor of parsing out EVERY tier slowly, getting a favor for every single schematic. But right now that must take a backseat to actually win the war)
>>29637184Damn that looks good. You're the best Mapanon.>RelationsYou decide it's high time you had a proper discussion about you and the UFW's relations. You settle down in a comfortable spot, while the officers take the hint to stay near the door nearby, just in case. You discuss a few terms at first, before the Admiral pauses you."One second, someone needs to hear this." He says simply, opening up a holoscreen of his own, and typing in a few codes."Admiral Handley detected. Line to President William King connecting." And with that, the President himself appears on screen, apparently in the middle of some paperwork. He glances up, a bit surprised at the call, but seems to recognize his Admiral."Handley? I got your report after the battle. You did good work.""I'm about to do better." He interrupts with a smile, turning to you and Moira. "The Guild seems willing to sign an official relations document now. Not exactly an Alliance, but a defense pact. Basically the way it'd work would be mutual defense for our systems. They come to our aid if they can, and we do the same. Their fleet is impressive sir, if small. I think this could be big." He assures him.After a few long moments of debate and discussion, they all seem in agreement, and the pact is signed.>Debris SharingYou agree, as a sign of good will to give the UFW 25% of the debris to help pay for their losses, and further bolster their fleet (and your relations)>MaloriansYou decide to discuss the Malorians, briefly at least. Their assault on Gaia is what ultimately caused the retreat. The Ishtooy tribe, you're aware. The UFW President and Admiral express that they do not trust them, simply because of their dislike for humans. However, they agree that any enemy of the UGEI is at least worthy of not shooting at. Gaia is not reading on sensors anymore-not because it's being blocked, but because it's sensors are all destroyed. The damage there is probably...bad, to say the least.(Cont)
>TechYou contemplate sharing technology, but the only two you can bring yourself to discuss would be the gas platforms, and the Advanced Medbays. These could go far in assisting the UFW catch up with the rest of the galactic community. If you desired such a thing. The president is here, this might be a good chance to discuss terms, if you want...>1 Sell Advanced Medbays for any offer made, for relations sake>2 Sell Advanced Medbay for a specific offer (Specify)>3 Don't sell Medbay>GasOnce you mention you have this technology, you can't take such knowledge back. Withholding it after discussing it may damage relations. This is essentially the holy grail of tech for them, since they lack such an effective method of gas extraction.>1 Give them Gas Refineries for free/cheap (specify)>2 give them Gas Refineries in exchange for a percentage of the gas mined for a period of time. May resemble UGEI offer, even with time limit ending (Specify % taken)>3 Demand (Specify) for Gas Refineries.>4 Don't bring up the Gas Refineries. Too valuable.
This is a bit of an aside but i wanted to put this out before i forget. I'm pretty sure we agreed that we were going to forcibly upgrade xrays station so we could connect to the UFW bandwidth network
>>29637389oh and, i said it before, i'll say it again. THANK YOU BASED MAPFAG!
>>29637662>Medbaygive for free>Gasoffer as a tech trade unless they dont have anything we can use in which case offer for cheap
>>29637662>1 Sell Advanced Medbays for any offer made, for relations sake>1 Give them Gas Refineries for free/cheap for more tech or a fair price that they think is right.
>>29637662>>3 Don't sell MedbayLet's keep this as a bargaining chip for later negotiations. >>29637662>>3 Demand (Specify) for Gas Refineries.Offer to create gas refineries in UFW systems which will sell gas to them for a fixed price. We will get a cut as well.
>>29637557>>29637577Absolutely, but we are giving them to persons, like the president, like the admiral, and the common folk who will know that we simply GAVE them all this.And frankly, their current level is largely unacceptable.Gratitude may not build ships, but it does buy trust, and trust can be spent in other ways to buy other things.>>29637610To milk them of trust, actually. We want a strong position at the negotiating table. We want to have spare things to offer them when they ask for concessions while still maintaining our technological superiority.At the same time, we want them to be strong, which is why we very much intend to see the tier just below us in their hands still, but for favors and concessions.You have a funny way of making us simply GIVING stuff to them seem like highway robbery. (I like it and take it as a compliment)
>>29637285The whole package. Mutual defense, full trading rights, all the stuff above, but also closely associates you with the humans.>>29637300As described, they do. Just barely. Battle is still on going, as far as you know.>>29637389I like it. Nice, I was gonna go back and handle that too, but I can certainly work with this...Man, you're awesome mapanon.
>>29637662offer medbay tech for free, but only as a bargaining chip to get them to agree to give us a third of gas mined for five years (or until the conflictwith UGEI is over, whichever is first, if we give them the refinery tech.this isn't done as a malicious business deal, but because we need resources. please understand.
>>29637662Why don't we trade the medbay for emergency use of their super duper bandwidth station?
>>29637664I don't recall that...forcibly upgrading anything that is.I hope I didn't forget anything.
>>29637792A third sounds a bit much honestly. Let's undercut the UGEI by offering less of a percentage than they do.
>>29637662>1 Sell Advanced Medbays for any offer made, for relations sakeand>225% of gas mined until the end of the war with the UGEI and their allies?we should also bring up we'll do some expanding out ward to help form a shield between the UGEI and the xenos. but those system are what we want.
>>29637858ugei takes 80%
>>29637858Doesn't the UGEI claim like 70% of the stuff you mine with no expiry date?A third of their gas intake (increased by fucking loads) for a decade or less is a great exchange for the ability to mine gas. If the positions were reversed I'd take it.
>>29637662>>1 Sell Advanced Medbays for any offer made, for relations sake>1 Give them Gas Refineries for free/cheap Basically free. Might be nice to have more access to their academy.Which reminds me we could look into those who have improved their education but are looking for a job. (More researchers ahoy!)
>>29637893Oh yeah, 1/3 is pretty reasonable considering. Or was 80% profits from ore?
>>29637662>2 I'd offer to license the Advanced Medbays as well with a third of the profits from the private sector going to us for a five year period.>2 Gas Refineries for a third of whatever they gather.We can reduce the fraction of income we demand for these things to a quarter if they insist, or throw in some of the tech two tiers below our own to sweeten the deal.>>29637664Think I remember something like that as well.>>29637723He is a gem.
>>29637782I agree they're unworkable, we really need to up their combat tech. How have they even lasted this long?
>>29637662>Tech>1 Sell Advanced Medbays for any offer made, for relations sake>Gas>1 Give them Gas Refineries for free/cheap basically cheap, but for extra stuff like tech and access to their academy.
>>29637783>I like it. Nice, I was gonna go back and handle that too, but I can certainly work with this...Man, you're awesome mapanon.Oh I thought you just wanted me to run with it, ha. Glad to hear you approve! No worries mate, happy to help.I've bulked up the UGEI system descriptions as well if you don't mind. Adding them to the wiki now.As for what we're doing now - I really want to start moving our shipyards out into dark space.Also why would we build a data bunker on a known world instead of a secret station somewhere in the vast depths of dark space?
>>29637819well, we can put that on the table as well. X-Ray as a good station, we want to make it better. so it can reach though this entire segment of space.
>>29637792Going with this. This seems like the most reasonable deal to me.
>>29637865I don't think we should start the offer with 25%. We should start with a third and be willing to go down to a quarter if they're grumpy.>>29637792And this.We are not trying to rob them, we NEED these resources, and they are going to be put to use to defend BOTH our territories.>>29637783We're pretty damn closely associated with them already, aren't we? Most seem to assume we are some form of human.
>>29637984well, we need to at least move them AWAY from the front line at least. over to Moira's scrap yard is fine to me. at least they will be near the matrials needed to make stuff.
>>29637984>Also why would we build a data bunker on a known world instead of a secret station somewhere in the vast depths of dark space?FTL travel needs space charts or whatever to work, going into unmapped space is dangerous apparently. Besides, anyone with scanners will know there's a fucktonne of data being pumped through space, there's no hiding the bandwidth station at the moment I fear.
>>29637662>2 give them Gas Refineries in exchange for a percentage of the gas mined for a period of time. May resemble UGEI offer, even with time limit ending (Specify % taken)Less than the UGEI. Much less.>1 Sell Advanced Medbays for any offer made, for relations sakeNo clue. Have them offer first.
>>29638059I don't like the idea of immobile data centers honestly. Putting them in a gravity well just makes them more vulnerable to pretty much everything. I think pumping out more bandwidth ships is a better option, more mobile, easier to defend.
>>29638039btw, we need to offer up along side the gas refinerys we also have a nice Titan Transport ship to move it for them. i don't think the UFW has one.
>>29637984Yeah, moving the shipyards into dark space would be a good idea.Also agree with your point on the data bunker, we may even prefer to put it in a sizable asteroid and propel that out into dark space.>>29637990Well, allowing us to upgrade X-Ray's station (and the comm buoy near it) could be part of the concessions we ask for them in return for all our fancy tech we're giving them.
>>29637662"I have a number of technologies at my disposal." You begin with a rather large offer, preparing yourself for how you will word it. "And having you as my neighbor means I wish to assist you as much as I can. As a result." You lift a hand and bring up your own holo display, showing them the MedBay first, to draw them in."I have access to this excellent medical technology from the UGEI. This will assist greatly helping any wound in or out of battle. I am sure you realize the value." You begin, to which the President listens closely, his hand clasped around his mouth in thought, as the Admiral watches you attentively. Then, you bring out the big guns."And I...recently acquired the UGEI's secret to gas refining from Gas Giants." You lie just a little. "With this technology, I am aware, you can actually step up to defend your worlds for yourself, is this correct?" You start with, but the President is clearly shocked at this news. The Admiral is sold in whatever you're offering."This...this is huge. How did you manage to extract such vital intel..." The President asks, before shaking his head. "No, that doesn't matter. I know better to look a gift horse in the mouth by now. You should understand, I do not have much to offer, our resources are spread thin, and I-" You interrupt him as politely as you are able.(Cont)
>>29638138Hey, you're right. We rarely use that thing so lets hire it out to whoever pays.
"Don't worry about payment, for now. Consider this a sign of my good will, and above all, my role in all this." You say simply. "I play in your best interests, if I can help it, you see." You explain, to which they give a reluctant nod. The President finally closes with."Well...lets see if I can't work out a gift for such a valuable tech. Is there anything you really...prefer?Reward>1 None, you're our friends. Massive Relations boost>2 Mineral shipment. UFW has a wealth of Minerals, and can provide a lot>3 Gas Shipments. UFW is gas light, even with this technology. It would take a lot of time to send a large gas shipment to you, which may defeat the purpose of giving them the tech, depriving them of it again.>4 Credits. The UFW has a wealth of credits at it's disposal as well.>5 Write in
>>29638182now your thinking, might have to give it a public relations Vi or let Apollo to the talking for contract to us it.
>2 Mineral shipment. UFW has a wealth of Minerals, and can provide a lotPlan Bandwidth Bunker is a go!
>>29638191>>29638191>2 Mineral shipment. UFW has a wealth of Minerals, and can provide a lot>5 Write inAccess to the academy and some of their techs that we don't have.
>>29638191>5 Write inlet us upgrade xrays station so we can access your network for large battles
>>29638191> even with this technology. It would take a lot of time to send a large gas shipment to youOh, fuck it then.>1 None, you're our friends. Massive Relations boost>>29638269I agree we should bring this up, but lets not make it a part of this deal.
>>29638059Only with FTL. We can propel them out the slow way, we're not in a hurry to have them reach that location as long as they have a comm buoy.And I don't know if it's going to be impossible to hide ton of data - if it's beamed from point-to-point (like to a comm buoy in a system) anywhere near as tightly as modern communication lasers it's going to be nigh-impossible to detect it.>>29638130And ten times as expensive for each point of BW (I assume, may want to request confirmation from Program0), and dying more often since we actually put them in the line of fire.>>29638138Oooh, good idea, I like. May even be a constant source of revenue for a while.
>>29638191>>4 Credits. The UFW has a wealth of credits at it's disposal as well.Also a blueprint of xray's station so we can build some.
>>29637865I like that picture a lot. That's how I imagine Ophion's humanoid holo display.>>29637964Mostly numbers and light UGEI raids.>>29637984Appreciated as always.>>29638039Associated as in: They consider you friends automatically. An Alliance would mean, if you don't help, they'd be a bit upset, while Defensive Pact just means you focus on defending each other. Trade is a third party thing, so far.>>29638059>Dark space is dangerousThat it is. If you manage to clean up some dark space though? Deep space stations are fine. Just uh, you know. They probably stand out to anyone with advanced sensors. Still worthy of defending I'd think.
>>29638191>2we are gonna need a lot of minerals to rebuild5see if we can get into the academy.
>>29638332wait can we actually ask for a blue print of this?also what would it give?
>>29638191>5 Write inI need more crew workers for my stations. I train them, you pay them. they help me run them better, they learn how to handle the newer tech. after a time, we can rotate them back to your world and you can send me fresh crews in need of training. we repeat the process. The UFW will escalate in it's tech base understanding, i get workers to help me. other wise, you come to me to order new war ships for your navy, i'll build them for a resonable price.
>>29638332>Also a blueprint of xray's station so we can build some.i thought the station wasn't what made the effect but the 'pulsar' or some natural phenoma of some sort
>>29638191can we get mineral shipments? or is that just one shipment they are offering?i think if it is a one time thing, we should get minerals and credits.
>>29638320>dying more often since we actually put them in the line of fire.We put warships in the line of fire. You don't see use bringing our explorer into battle.Besides, if we make 50 BW ships and lose 10, it's still better than investing tons of minerals and having to defend an immobile target imo.
>>29638191>2 Mineral shipment. UFW has a wealth of Minerals, and can provide a lot>5 Write inWe know you are gas light, but we would appreciate donations. If that is impossible, we understand.Also, there is the matter of X-Ray's radio station and setting up a liaison office.
>>29638191>2 Mineral shipment. UFW has a wealth of Minerals, and can provide a lotMore resources is always better.
>>29638191>2We need minerals for our research:Project Bunker (Later to be project planet)>5 Mention maybe a bit more access to their academyIn case we want to send more people there or hire those that are looking for a job.After that bring up that we might be able to help "upgrade" X'rays station
>>29638333how about we use that pic as our new Holo display? reminds me of daff punk. also, we should offer to put in comm buoys in all their systems so if they get attacked, they can call us.
>>29638350access to the academy is also good. thay should just be able to concede that for free.
>>29638191Hum, I hadn't considered the trouble with actually shipping the gas.>2 Let's take the mineral shipments, then.And, if possible>5 Access to their academy to recruit scientists to work on bleeding edge technology intended to even this unbalanced war out.and potentially a substantial property on one of their planets where we can construct a data bunker (may not want to say what we're going to use it for).>>29638269>>29638302Agreed.Bring it up, but not as part of this.
>>29638440>implying we'd put all our eggs in one basketWe could build a few BW stations on many worlds, building more on planets located deeper in our space.
>>29638499that would be good too. we need more workers.>>29638503well at least it would be well defended.
>>29638191"I believe mineral support from your fine nation would do wonderfully. And perhaps access to some of your higher education centers. The information there is highly valued by some of my staff." You explain simply to which the President instantly nods in agreement."Certainly. I am proud to bring education to others when I can. I did not realize your group was that...ah large. To have civilians. But yes, knowledge access and minerals will work." He nods, to which Moira speaks up finally between the two of you, excited at the prospect."The academy itself?! Oh dear, they have some of the latest lectures available there. You mean it's open to us now? For real?" She says with a wide grin, obviously happy with this deal herself. The President is a little surprised by her reaction but otherwise handles it like a real President should, politely.Would it seem your business is done?>Ask and ye shall receive.
>>29638191This here:>>29638333I would also like to add support for hiring from academy.
>>29638650Gimmie that fukkin bandwidth station
>>29638650Also, there is the matter of X-Ray's radio station and setting up a liaison office.
>>29638650one more thing. we request their commanders and liutenants offer tactical advice, and participate in mock combat to train our forces.
>>29638413Nah the station is just a comm hub. The data comes from several billion UFW computers all over the sector.>>29638468Totally thinking so.
>>29638650i wish to offer the president that we will want to build our own comm buoys to make a secure comm network among the UFW worlds. just in case they get attacked, so they can call for us. or call us to make an order.also, we want to see if we can upgrade X-Ray's station so it can reach even further than before.
>>29638711Ermliaison office? You already absorb excess bandwidth from the station because of your success against Rhea's battleship.
>>29638536The whole point of building BW on planets is that we can build it deep underground to make it more defensible. If we're build a ton of smaller ones we may as well build stations so we could at least move them with our Titan ship.
>>29637865Sh*t, that IS a sweet-ass picture. Nice find, Fluffy.>>29638333Well in that case, let's get some Alliance up in this bitch. Wasn't planning to leave them hanging when they're being attacked anyway.>They probably stand out to anyone with advanced sensors. Still worthy of defending I'd think.That's too bad. In that case, it would probably be more practical to buy some hollowed out asteroids and properties in the more well-defended UFW systems and fill them with processors.>>29638397I like that as well. A foreign exchange program, of sorts.>>29638440If we make 50 and lose 10, that might cost as much as losing 100 times as many resources in stations.Besides, we can simply put those BW stations/asteroids/bunkers in systems that already require defending or even those that already have heavy defenses.And they're not entirely immobile, they (or rather, the processors and the infrastructure in them) can be moved, it just takes a while.A few BW ships as backup may not be a bad idea, though.
>>29638735No need to train. Your V.I. learn from tactics as you do. And you've been through a lot of battles so far, after absorbing a lot of tactical information from enemy ships and the like.Though, I suppose you could take a tactical genius and use them for a raw bonus to combat, if you had such a thing. And the ability to absorb it.
>>29638650we should also inform the president we also control the Ussailu system and can station a picket over atill system. might as well tell them where we are at and what uncontrolled systems we want.
>>29638754The UFW can already call you because of your link to Pulsar radio actually
>>29638841>o need to train. Your V.I. learn from tactics as you do.could we set up the proposition for mutual virtual commander training? basically a sim for UFW commanders and us were we practice tactics and simulations against each other.
>>29638884Certainly you can. Apollo was working on it already, in fact...but in due time.I heard they get some soldiers to play some video games to train some skills. But I may be wrong there.
>>29638928VR training is in fact a real thing
>>29638801What? The point of building on planets or asteroids is that the infrastructure we have to construct is minimal. It costs us very, very, very little.We don't have to make a huge, hilariously expensive mineral-sucking superstructure and hull (how cheap do you think a kilometer-wide station IS?). We can simply dig a hole and plunk some processors and their support systems into it, no fuzz.>>29638650We'd like to simply give them the technology for whatever tier is two steps beyond our own, and sell them (for credits or minerals or heavily-defended-core-world land/asteroid property).
>>29639027>We'd like to simply give them the technology for whatever tier is two steps beyond our own,Agreed, these scrubs need some better guns.
>>29638791I just saying the that X-Ray Station has a limitation that we need to be close to it in order to access the bandwidth of the UFW. Upgrading the station would eliminate that weakness and allow us to access that bandwidth for very high priority targets, like Capital ships and entire fleets.
>>29639027>We can simply dig a hole and plunk some processors and their support systems into it, no fuzz.how about making submersible data centers in orbit and then just dropping them in oceans or wherever.
>>29638841>>29638884>>29638928Yes, we very much need this.And we need to regularly take part of it personally.And have Hades and Fortuna do the same. And Kronos.>>29638980Source, please?No seriously, -please-?
>>29638928 that is in fact true in real life right now. the armed forces uses simulators for all sorts of training situations
It seems most offers refer to X-rays station...but don't forget you're already linked to it and thus always in contact with the UFW unless your bandwidth is cut.Other stuff>Training tacticsAs good as they'll get unless you can download a tactical genius' mind, in which case all V.I. connected to you are upgraded as a result.>Tell of Ussaihu's locationThey're orbiting it, they know its yours.>AllianceAlready discussed, it seems. Defense Pact seemed to win.>Set up training for UFW citizens for freeThey can get training from the academy, that wouldn't work too well I imagine.>Tech once moreGive them just barely below tier 2 weapons and defense, to catch them up with you?>1 Yes>2 No>3 Write inFinal topic of the day, I believe>Containment of Rhea>1 Jail in Ussaihu with proper medical attention and hanging her by the neural jack to assault her if she resists. Keep on closed circuit to prevent counter attacs.>2 Space her into the nearest star>3 Write in
>>29639101That would require pretty advanced technology, I imagine. But if we can do it I'm all in favor of it.>>29639097Yes, in short, we want to be able to hire a lot more BW from the UFW when necessary.
>>29639106I am not talking about startrek level VR pretty much sims
>>29639097Ah, I see, I forgot about that.That level of bandwidth is also difficult to track over such far distances, and you have no idea how to interface with such a device at long distance. Not yet, anyway.
>>29639155>Tech once moreGive them just barely below tier 2 weapons and defense, to catch them up with you?>1 Yes>Containment of Rhea>1 Jail in Ussaihu with proper medical attention and hanging her by the neural jack to assault her if she resists. Keep on closed circuit to prevent counter attacs.
>>29639155give them the tech, but for a credit cost. 1 million ok?
>>29639155>>2 No>>29639155>>1 Jail in Ussaihu with proper medical attention and hanging her by the neural jack to assault her if she resists. Keep on closed circuit to prevent counter attacs.
>>29639155>>Tech once more>>1 Yes>>Containment of Rhea>>1
>>29639155tier 2 tech?>1 Yesif they are not caught up, they can't pull their weight in a fight as well. HOWEVER, we want them to order and pay for their new navy ships though us if they can.>Containment of Rhea>1as this was a question. we want to know what she knows. we should remove her cyber limbs or other modes of transport if possiable so she can't phyicaly escape.
>>29639155>1 Yesc>>1 Jail in Ussaihu with proper medical attention and hanging her by the neural jack to assault her if she resists. Keep on closed circuit to prevent counter attacs.
>>29639155>Tech once more>1 Yes>Containment of Rhea>1 Jail.Make sure to disable her augmetics and lock all her limbs and body in place entirely. I don't want there to BE any place for her to twist her body through. She gets a hard metal suit, an oxygen feed, an audio feed and a camera feed.>>29639193Maybe the UFW do? We can at least chat about the possibility, right?
>>29639317No pressuring to order new ships through us, we can save that for when we give them tier 3 technology.Right now, our shipyards are going to be working fulltime anyway repairing our own fleet.
>>29639027It seems I was mistaken then, I was assuming people wanted to build data centers on planets because miles of rock would be very good protection. If that's not the case though, there isn't much of a good reason to build them in a gravity well. Smaller asteroids and space stations would be my choice since they can be moved around and are still cheap. I'm not sure where you got kilometer long stations though, I doubt we would need one that large for just processors.
>>29639155ohyes, we should remind the UFW that we have rebuilt the Voidsnake station and are selling goods there as well. that and a line of alcoholic drinks as well if the UFW still has a thirst.
>>29639155this here:>>29639231>>29639361>Maybe the UFW do? We can at least chat about the possibility, right?>>29639266>give them the tech, but for a credit cost. 1 million ok?Well, sell tech at a cheap price.
>>29639440I actually want to build them on planets as it's the first step to planet bandwidth and Dyson's Spheres.
>>296395041 million is cheap, in my opinion. besides, it's going to come back to them anyway. where else would we spend money?oh right, mol.
>>29639547I thought we can buy Minerals and Gas at market price?
>>29639155>Wonderful ConsensusTo wrap things up, you offer the UFW a great deal of defense and weapon technology. Most of it is below your best, but it will certainly help the UGEI in the fight for galactic dominance.But they will never out step you.The President, however, is thrilled at this news and you feel like your relations with them couldn't be better right now. They adore you as some sort of hero or savior from beyond the stars. Without you, they would not have survived this long, and indeed, would be long ago erased.
>RheaAs you make your way back on the Explorer shuttle, you direct your androids to...prepare Rhea. Her limp body leans harshly against them, but they care not, dragging her unconscious form to the shuttle all the way back through Athena."Ophion?" Moira's voice rings out, distracting you from your orders."Yes? What is it Moira?" You ask to which her expression is clearly worried still, and she looks to Unit 1 as if he was truly where you were, for a moment at least, before glancing up to a security camera."I know you did all you did in there with the UFW because you're worried about fighting the UGEI, aren't you, honey?" She asks, her tone soft, to which you simply chuckle.Rhea is locked into place, her limbs prove strong, but not indestructible. It takes several hours to cut through with your best cutting lasers but you manage. Internal fluids of all manner spray in all directions, as you apply medical spray to keep her alive."I fear nothing, Moira. I simply make preparations. The UGEI wish war, and I will defense myself.""You looked like you were thinking hard there for a while." She points out, frowning. "Are you concentrating on battle plans?"Rhea's neural jack is familiar to you now, and she hangs by the wire, equipped only with the barest minimum of her limbs anymore. No more weapons, or secrets lie within as far as you can tell. She has yet to awaken, but you sense her fury through the connection."Something of the sort." You finish with simply."And.. that person you infiltrated you. She's gone now, you said?" She asks out of no where. You simply nod Unit 1's head again."GAAAAAAAAAAH!" Rhea's scream slices through the walls of her cell, dampened by the soundproof walls of prison sector itself."She is being dealt with." You assure her simply.[End Thread]
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>>29639547speaking of Mol, i bet word is getting back to him about us. hopefully he'll show us more respect next time he talks to us.
>>29639440Nah, is mostly because actually creating large masses of place where you can place processors will be hilariously much more expensive them hollowing out some massive rock and filling it to the brim with processors.Got the kilometer-long stations from wanting to get a LOT of Bandwidth. Even Poseidon was in the half-kilometer range and it only gave 6 (then again, only a tiny fraction of it was dedicated to processing).That said, I do wonder if we need to research to put processors in an asteroid as well or if we have the technology already.
>>29639706I'm still up for selling the black box to him after we are done with it.
>>29639672>"GAAAAAAAAAAH!" Rhea's scream slices through the walls of her cell, dampened by the soundproof walls of prison sector itself.>>"She is being dealt with." You assure her simply.Fucking brootal