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You are Reinhold, master swordsman and victor of the Royal Swordsmanship Tournament. The King was so impressed with your skill, he personally requested that you be transferred out of the army and into the Royal Guard! Not bad for an orphan who was raised in a brothel in a poor fishing village.

The only issue at this point is your assignment... you've been charged to be the personal guard of the King's only daughter Marianne. While she is the vision of loveliness that you'd expect from a Princess, her personality is... well... she seems to have some issues.

You're finally awake... though everything still kind of hurts, you're back in one piece at the very least.

But your sword isn't.


>Sorry, but you've been stripped down to the rank of DOG!
>Though dogs are loyal, they're not all that smart...
>Though she still considers you her friend, she thinks a little less of you... and also herself.
>And while dogs are man's best friend, they still don't count as people.


Thread archive:
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=Princess+Guard+Quest

Character list + descriptions (in progress):
http://pastebin.com/1Vhj4DJv

List and descriptions of the spells shown thus far:
http://pastebin.com/2c9y2sDM

Twitter:
https://twitter.com/QM_Archelon

Quest compilation that's kindly maintained by a person who isn't me:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/n4nhs9gd0kmnnni/04tpEy5_pe
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"H... hey, Grandma?" you ask, your voice wavering. "What happened to my sword?"
"I was wondering when you'd get around to asking about that..." Agnes says, shaking her head. "The ice around it melted when that Gilbeault boy fainted, but it's in pieces."
"Pieces!? But it was just the hilt-"
"It might have just been the ice holding it in place after the impact, I don't know," she sighs. "But it's in pieces... Luciana had her bodyguard gather them all together for you, though."

Agnes points across the room to a table where the broken bits of your sword are lying on top of a cloth.

"Oh... oh man..." you mumble.
"I know..." Citrine says, wiping tears from her eyes. "That thing's the only reason why we're both alive right now, I understand how you feel."
"If it's any help, I do know the blacksmith who forged it," Agnes says. "While it wouldn't exactly be the same sword, I could always have it reforged for you."

"Really!?" Citrine gasps. "Reinhold, you gotta do tha-"
"It'll take a few days to be finished, though..." Agnes says. "...if you even want me to, that is. And I don't know how long you guys will be in town."
"How long -will- we be here, anyways?" you ask, turning to Sylvie.
"We're leaving the day after tomorrow, last I heard," Sylvie replies.
"Hmm... I could have it shipped to you after it's completed," Agnes says.
"We can stick around until it's finished and bring it to you directly, if that's what you want," Marius chimes in. "It's not like we have anything better to do, and I'd like to make up for getting you into this whole thing somehow..."

"Umm, there might be something else you can do..." Sylvie begins.


>go with Agnes's idea
>ask Sylvie what she was going to suggest
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>>29738991
>ask Sylvie what she was going to suggest

Sounds good.
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>>29738991
Ask Sylvie
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>>29738991
>>ask Sylvie what she was going to suggest
let's get all options before we make a decision.
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>>29738991
>>ask Sylvie what she was going to suggest
Agnes' idea is perfectly reasonable, but we might as well hear our options first.
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>>29738991
>>ask Sylvie what she was going to suggest
Duh.

Though if it's some sort of offer to get it enchanted we could do both.
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>>29738991
>>ask Sylvie what she was going to suggest
I believe in you, tell me you idea.
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>>29738991
>ask Sylvie what she was going to suggest
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>>29738991
>>ask Sylvie what she was going to suggest
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>>29738991

>ask Sylvie what she was going to suggest

Never hurts to know what's on her mind.

Daily reminder we'll never get the child's drawing.
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>>29739023
Seconded.
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Okay, before we get started, hear me out

-Everyone is entitled to their opinions

-If you think someone's opinion is WRONG, trying to argue with them won't change it

-Any discussion about it can wait until the end of the thread

Thanks, have a pleasant quest!
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>>29738991
>Ask sylvie

No reason not to
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>>29738991
>>ask Sylvie what she was going to suggest
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>>29738991
>ask Sylvie what she was going to suggest
this could be awesome
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>>29738991
>Sylvie, if it involves getting back at that pomp transvestite, I'm all ears
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>>29738991
>>go with Agnes's idea
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>>29738991
I wonder if we can reforge it while implanting the bracelet into it somehow. Maybe split the bracelet in two so half of it is in the sword and the other half is with us?
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Sylvieeeee make it all betterrrrrr
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Hey! QM! Yeah, you!

I heard you've had some trouble recently.

Power through, motherfucker! You're fucking awesome!
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>>29738991
>>ask Sylvie what she was going to suggest

Re: trolls/shitposters/whatever.
>see attached image
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>>29738991
>ask Sylvie what she was going to suggest
And:
>>29739078
>Sylvie, if it involves getting back at that pomp transvestite, I'm all ears
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>>29738991
>ask Sylvie what she was going to suggest
Based Luciana and Takamaru
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>>29738991
We must learn HAMON
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>>29739121
channel the powers of the Ripple through our blade to asplode things
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>>29738991
>go with Agnes's idea
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>>29738991
>>ask Sylvie what she was going to suggest
come on niklas

also, arch likes this pic right, or did he waifu w different girl
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>>29738991
MAGIC CRYSTAL BASTARD SWORD HYBRID GO
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Wait isn't regi a metal wizard? Why not practice some magic then reforge it with that?
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Monique's gonna be PISSED when he finds out Reinhold just got his sword fixed like it was no big deal.
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>>29738991
>ask Sylvie what she was going to suggest

And if she doesn't bring it up, then we should bring up the bracelet.
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>>29738991

We have affinity to metal magic. Can't we learn a spell to create swords? Then we can break all we want.
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Archelon
I GOT A VOTE IN ADDITION TO SYLVIE PLEASE RESPOND AND READ OKAY?

CHECK ON THE BRACELET
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>>29739222
Metal Magic just creates the metal, it doesn't forge it. We aren't blacksmiths so we can't forge it. I doubt we have the arm to work a hammer anyway.
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>>29739222
because we barely started learning magic a month ago
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>>29739092
>>29739169
These. The possibilities of this would be amazing, since it'd be like having a sword that levels up with us.
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>>29738991
Check on our bracelet, see how depressed it looks.
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All will be well.
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>>29739169
I was really hoping we could do something like using the bracelet to add on to our sword at will like this little paint scribble.
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>>29739266
I dunno, I thought the puns were pretty cool
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>>29739238
We can always get another bracelet. Hell, isntmthe current bracelet a prototype whatisface is usingntomcollect data? Pretty sure he's going to jack it off us when we get home and we'll get version 2.0 a week or so later.
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>>29738991
>>go with Agnes's idea
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>>29739222
Powergaming.
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>>29739292
time and a place though
If we use them all up now, we could freeze up and not have a new one for a boss fight
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>>29739222
We don't even know any real metal magic yet
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>>29739169
NULLSPACE BLADE GO

INTO ETERNITY OUR TARGETS WILL BE SENT
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>>29738991
>already getting our sword back
That duel really was pointless in the end, wasn't it?
>ask sylvie
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>>29739222
We should probably start with something other than Volker's sword.
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>>29738985
Damn earlier than I expected. Okay, I'm here to read and vote in a cordial manner and enjoy this quest, after I grab a shower.

YAY! Lets get more info and friend reactions to the duel.

I am very curious how Marianne will react to us directly and how Mathias will react to Monique
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>>29738991
>go with Agnes's idea
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>>29739287
I think Niklaus would be interested in an idea like that. We should bring that up when we get back.
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>>29739321
The duel was a result of winning the first duel and punching Monique in the face also the painting it wasn't just some random thing to break our sword.
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>writing
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>>29739222
Because we would need to find someone competent enough with magic to do that.

We could start looking the castle nursery or an orphanage.
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It seems like there is a janitor in this thread.
Thats a happy thought.
>>29738991
>>ask Sylvie what she was going to suggest
hopefully i don't get banned for making that joke.
>>29739224
Not really he only broke it to even the score.
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Could we get another sword from the same blacksmith?

We'll get the old one reforged/magicked and get a spare from the smith. It's not like funding is a problem and i know we carry daggers but another quality blade is useful.
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>>29739287
These are quite far off from being a thing, so please refrain from discussing it and getting a bunch of people riled up until we at least get the bracelet back for first examination.
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>>29739353
I'm just saying, man. Narratively speaking it was pointless due to how it was executed and now there are no real repercussions for loss, either. The only thing it MIGHT have done is good Luci married off to Monique, but we have to wait and see.
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>>29739222
Because it is way to early for us atm. Sure we could do this in the future, but we'll need another sword until then.
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>>29739382
Shit let's do like Volker and get a whole stack of them, just for our next duel with Monique
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>>29739364
>We could start looking at the castle nursery or an orphanage.
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>>29739385
If only that'd happen finally be rid of her but, I doubt we will be so lucky. It also stopped the king's shadowruns and opened the way to potential character development in everyone.
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>>29739461
>next duel with Monique
I don't think the anti-monique guys will even allow that and you can't forget reinholds friends, but maybe a spar is possible.
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>>29739483
>I don't think the anti-monique guys will even allow that

They better

We have no reason to be nothing but polite to Monique, this fulfills two purposes that satisfy both camps on the matter

If we congratulate him for the duel and say that we were happy to fight a sealed king this

-Makes him feel like a tremendous hypocrite and an asshole

And

-Gives us the chance to fight that sealed king again

No matter which side you're on, whether you hate him or love him, it's a perfect solution.
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>>29739479
>opened the way to potential character development
which will be stopped by a wave of waifu fags and shippers.
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>>29739504
The princess said Reinhold's name
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>>29739461
Lets not even challenge him though.

Next time we see him, we should act like we dont care /that much/ if our sword broke. Then we can say *something along the lines of*:
>Just like how you won your status as captain in the border guard by riding off your fathers coat-tails, you won the duel by exploiting a loophole so you can let something do the work for you.
>You're not a great swordsman. You're "That Guy With the Sealed King, Monique". Just like with everything in your life, it was attained through the work of others. Pa~thetic.

That's the only way I can see us getting back at him right now.
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>>29739517
Remember to report the shitposts for rule violation!
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>>29739547
see
>>29739097
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>>29739517
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>>29739545
>Mocking him

What? no, don't do that. Say it was a great duel and move on.

Do you think we're not going to have to deal with him again?
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>>29739504
Theres the door, man no one is forcing you to stay. Before the trip I happen to like the slice of life easy going quest Marcotti or w/e can burn for all I care.
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>>29739543
Yet, she still thinks less of us.
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>>29739545
>That's the only way I can see us getting back at him right now.
thats the thing we could get our sword fixed and he was trying to make us submit.(bit douche move though.)
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>>29739545
I just want him off our case
Agitating him is just cause for more escalation
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>>29739543
At the end of the Namek arc they at least got to kill Frieza, and all we got was the princess saying our name?
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Guys, can we try to slow down on the debate? You know, try not to make a blobbing thread like the last 5 or so.

>>29739547
Of course, pal. Done.
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>>29739581
And herself
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>>29739545
>Just like how you won your status as captain in the border guard by riding off your fathers coat-tails
You know he got that through his own ways right/
>you won the duel by exploiting a loophole so you can let something do the work for you.
Was possion ever fully explain?
I thought it was when both sword and master become one?
>>29739545
>>You're not a great swordsman. You're "That Guy With the Sealed King, Monique". Just like with everything in your life, it was attained through the work of others. Pa~thetic.
Now that is plain antagonizing.
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>>29739547
Could you not technically report that as illegal content? I'm pretty sure communicating threats or stating your intent to commit arson has to be a crime SOMEWHERE.
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>>29739517
Turtles don't have houses dum dick
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Guys, if we have the time, could we tell Luci (or Sylevie) our backstory. I am tired of using the excuse of our trauma to avoid dificult decisions. I feel that if Rein can sit down with one of the girls that are pursuing him and tell them what are his problems it would help clear so many of the misunderstanding they have on Rein.

I just want to sit down and lay the cards on the table, telling them exactly what type of man is Rein and then giving them the choice if they want to continue the relationship with Rein.

Plus I feel that this is a good way to develop Rein, and try to leave our Trauma behind.

I suggested Luci because she is the most aggressive suitor Rein has, so it might help get her to understand us and stop being so forward, but I would not be opposed if someone suggested Sylvie.
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>>29739595
Hey now, it took the tsun over 100 threads to show a little dere! Thats more progress than killing a transforming ladyboy.
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hi guys sorry im late what did i miss
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>>29739626
Don't worry Anon, her father is probably telling her atm that she is going to marry Monique so it won't matter in the end.
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>>29739617
I suppose so, but reports for illegal content have a higher priority than the other two, and it likely isn't a legitimate threat so it would be sort of a waste.
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>>29739626
Sylvie's already heard as most of it sans Spinelle suff IIRC.
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>>29739617
well considering my sylvie a shit joke got deleted and gave me a ban warning in under 2 minutes, i'm surprised that post is still there.
>>29739661
Sylvie just heard the excuse not the whole story, if we are gonna tell her our past might as well tell Nico and sylvie.
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>>29739626
I'd rather not talk about rape to people because
1. It's awkward and a personal issue
2. (IC) It's hard for a victim to just come out and talk about it

We've already made it clear that we're just not in the state of mind for a relationship right now.
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>>29739650
trolling and complaining
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>>29739626
I also prefer Luci, and I think Sylvie kind of already knows about us. Lucianna deserves to know about the guy she's interested in
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>>29739682
shhhhhh don't talk to it
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>>29739626

Sylvie already knows about it.

I see no reason for us to tell Luciana unless she asks us. Reinhold should just leave the past alone instead of opening it back up.

Even then, if it is told, I'm curious for the reaction.
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>>29739680
This makes me wonder if we told Marie about the shota rape/abuse/emotional abuse and if we did in detail.
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>>29739522
"That was a pretty intense duel there, I can't wait till I have my sword back together for our duel Monique!"

"What are you talking about to rambling buffoon?"

"Our duel remember? You challenged me at the party? My duel with Setsuranka was pretty crazy and all, but I'm still really looking forward to dueling you!"
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>>29739680
Actually I just want to tell Luci (or the others) everything to finally try to get over the trauma. I just want to destroy the excuse that is muh trauma so we can advance the plot. This duel is the time for rebirth, lets clear the air and stop leading the girls.
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>>29739545
That just sounds childish and petty.

I'm hoping the next time we see him he looks glum so we can throw some sarcasm at him.

"Why aren't you celebrating Monique? You won the duel, the people absolutely adored your display of skill."
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>>29739718
We did, but not in detail.
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>>29739719
Reinhold isn't that petty.
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>>29739719
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>>29739626
or just stick to what we did of saying we aren't looking for a relationship, probably being more forceful with luci since she's just so forward about it. sylvie has backed off, but that still doesn't change her feelings towards us, and hopefully luci will slow down
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>>29739712
>>29739697
>>29739661
When in the world did we tell sylvie?
All i remeber is us giving her the excuse of not being ready and we used that same excuse on nico and Luciana.
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>>29739719
That'd almost be worth the ensuing bullshit.
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>>29739680
Can we ask Sylvie and Lucianna to stop fighting each other/flirting with us?

Because it's making us uncomfortable to even try to learn magic.
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>>29739673
Probably because some asspained mod is a Sylvie fan. That kind of stuff happened to me often when I would complain about the Rails in GuP Quest BlackJack version. I think some mod was a fan and couldn't handle that I expressed my opinions as to why exactly the quest seemed to be on rails, and how bullshit it was that Miho was in the fucking forest oh my fucking god I'm having flashbacks
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>>29739718
I think she got the jist of it.

She understands Spinelle is bad touch
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"You had an idea?" you ask.
"Yes, umm..." Sylvie mumbles as she adjusts her glasses. "...Mr. Niklaus explained to me how the crystals in your bracelet work, and I'm pretty sure that it would be possible to have it consume the bits of your sword and make it whole again."
"Wait, really?" you say as you glance at your bracelet... which is now a very dull matte.
"I'm pretty sure that it could work," she nods. "If we ask Mr. Niklaus after we get back, I'm sure that he'd be more than happy to help!"

That's certainly an idea...

"I think I'd be able to manage it myself too..." Sylvie says. "I'm not completely used to it since my father wouldn't let me directly assist Mr. Niklaus in his experiments with it, but I know all the theories behind it."
"Umm... theories behind what?" Citrine asks. "I noticed you wearing that weird bracelet, is there something special about it?"
"I have to admit that I'm also a bit lost," Agnes says.


>tell them about it
>don't tell them about it
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>>29739626
I agree. We might not talk about the rape part, because it's really hard for victims to talk about it, but we do need to tell Luciana about where we came from. It'll probably help with our issues too
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>>29739718
no, we told her about lots of bad shit in our childhood but left everything about spinelle out. mari may know that something happened due to our slip when we were frozen to a wall, but she doesn't know what
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>>29739732
I'm hoping we finally find out about those details.
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>>29739743
She knows he grew up in a brothel from running into Citrine and Reinhold has told basically everyone about Volker.
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>>29739761
>>tell them about it
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>>29739761
>>tell them about it
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>>29739719
I like how it was said early.
>"Tell your sword she fought well."
Nothing too fancy.
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>>29739761
>>tell them about it
No reason not to.
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>>29739761
Did Niklaus as us to keep it a secret?

If not, tell them about it.
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>>29739761
>tell them about it

>>29739719
Petty or not I want this.
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>>29739761
>don't tell them about it
Don't worry about it.
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>>29739761
>tell them about it
Fuck yes we're going to get our own sword waifu
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>>29739761

>tell them about it
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>>29739743

She wasn't exactly 'told', but she does know about Reinhold's past. Reinhold told them whenever he found Citrine and Sylvie was being all panicky about Reinhold talking to another girl.
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>>29739761
TINA SWORD IS GOOOOOOOOOO
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>>29739761
We should make mention of our bracelet, it's really cool!
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>>29739761
>tell them about it
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>>29739761
>tell them about it
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>>29739761
>>tell them about it
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>>29739761
>tell them about it
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>>29739761
>tell them about it
Lets have Niklips do this. I mean, Sylvie is good and all, but this our sword we're talking about here. We need a professional.
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>>29739761
we're testing the bracelet
it ain't no secret

they can know as long as they don't tell other researchers
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>>29739761
>>tell them about it
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>>29739761
>tell them about it
There is literally no reason not to tell them.
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>>29739761
>Tell them

I don't think Tina is shy
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>>29739761
>tell them about it
Unless Niklaus told us to keep it secret. I reallt can't remember
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>>29739761
>>tell them about it
Time to show off the weird trinket.

Also, we should probably let Sylvie know that since we're really just borrowing it to stress-test it for the time being, we should probably wait until after we get back rather than having her do it solo.
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>>29739761
>>tell them about it
I like where this is going.
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>>29739761
elaborate
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>>29739761
>>tell them about it
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>>29739761
>tell them about it
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>>29739761
>tell them about it

>>29739755
Fucking teleporting panzers, man.
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>>29739743
when we ran into citrine in town with sylvie, nico, and melon. the whorehouse was mentioned and we gave them the gist

>>29739761
>>tell them about it
not like it's a secret
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>>29739626
>to Sylvie, Luciana, and maybe Nicolette
>"When I'm telling you that I'm not ready for a relationship for now, I mean it literally. I'm not saying that I want to take it slow or that I'm put off by your flirting, I'm saying that I don't want to engage in any flirting. At all."
>"It has nothing to do with you. I'm pretty messed up, but the biggest reason is that we've only known each other for less than a month. Marianne is right: I can't just lead all of you on just because it'd be awkward or painful to take a stand."
>"Sorry."
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>>29739761
>>tell them about it
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>>29739761
>tell them about it

"Archmage Niklaus Sucher gave me this bracelet, apparently it feeds on some of my magical energy and responds to my thoughts.

It's actually pretty interesting."
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>>29739761
>tell them about it
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>>29739761
>Show them

Show, don't tell.
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>>29739730
I'm still annoyed that everyone cheered him on when he went full Dio Brando.

Also I hope that flame jackass that runs a dojo hears about this and feels kind of guilty about his desire to fight letting some cuntwaffle completely dishonor the very idea of dueling.
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>>29739761
>tell them about it
And I say we wait till we get back to Niklaus before we try the idea. Rather work with the man who knows the most about Tina than the girl who only knows the theory behind it
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>>29739761
>tell them about it

We should tell them about it, but still get a second sword anyway from the blacksmith.

Remember why Volkner got a second sword? It was in case the first one broke. We should at least follow suite in case our sword breaks again. And besides, we don't exactly know if it can fully repair Volkner's sword and make it the same quality as it was before.
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>>29739773
>>29739788
>>29739845
Oh i thought you guys meant the rape and physical abuse.
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>>29739761
>>tell them about it
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Can we go to a weapons shop to shop for new weapons? Our sword is broken. Let's get a better one.
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>>29739848
No, tell one of them everything, except maybe the rape part, being open with them would just help Rein clear his heart out and try to deal with their advances (specially with Luci). Also it would force the girls to reflect on how little they know about Rein.
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>>29739719
Well this sounds like a good idea.
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>>29739878
No one knows about that and I doubt Reinhold would just talk about it.
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>>29739848
I'd say another reason would be low self-esteem (swording is worthless in pretty much every way imaginable, not qualified for our job at all) which makes their inexplicable attraction to us feel all the more unwarranted.
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>>29739545
>>Just like how you won your status as captain in the border guard by riding off your fathers coat-tails
In all fairness, Reinhold has done nothing impressive himself save be adopted by some guy who everyone loves.
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>>29739761
>tell them about it

We Tina now!
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>>29739870
>I'm still annoyed that everyone cheered him on when he went full Dio Brando.
for better or worse, crowds love shit like that

>>29739878
no one knows about spinelle stuff besides citrine, closest is mari and she only has an idea that SOMETHING happened that messed us up, but she doesn't know the details
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>>29739761
Either way, it's not the sword it was. Volker would probably think that reforging it in the pit of a crystal beast would be pretty cool.
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>>29739888
I agree.

Maybe we'll get a better sword this time.

Or maybe we'll stumble onto a legendary sword talked about in myths along the way to the shop.
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>>29739848
I might agree with the idea but the execution is poor.

Why even mention Marianne?
Just makes it sound like we're interested in her.

Just allude that we're not very good in that department, and leave it at that.
>>29739893
Honestly just telling them that the rivalry has escalated to an unbecoming level and that they're both wonderful young women, but we don't want them at odds over us.

And that we ourselves appreciate them as friends, maybe one day we will start thinking about relationships, but not today.
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>>29739848
I'd be fine with it.
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>>29739893
He's already told Marianne. The reason to tell the other girls is stop leading them on.
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>>29739940
Oh yeah, I agree not mention Marie.
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>writing
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>>29739976
Because she's been learning longer than us and has had access to high-frade magic tutors?
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>>29739976
>why can't we use zephyr wing but
We can anon, but we can't get the special snow flake treatment that PC sometimes get.
Also for that spell we just have to ask sylvie to teach it to us.
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>>29739931
At the very least I wish that Princess Fluffytail and her Weeaboo kingdom think Monique is a dishonorable cur, Sealed King or no.

Not gonna happen though.
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>>29739921
>>29739976
Not only is shopping not banned, we can in fact learn just about any spell we want.

Shopping for weapons was "banned" because our sword was superior to anything we could buy, so there was no point.
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Reinhold needs a 一撃必殺
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>>29739976
we haven't tried learning zephyr wing. remember, we are learning magic, but we started a month ago and spend half our waking time guarding mari, and the other half involves training with both spells and swords, learning our way around the castle, practicing sketching, and reading up on various things, along with simply hanging with friends
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>>29739777
I like this way of wording it since it doesn't ACTUALLY shit on Monique at all.

We learned that only the master of a Sealed King can communicate with it, and that they are sentient and able to, at the very least, cohabitate with their master in order for a period of time in order to interact with the outside world.

After all, the fight mostly got intense after the Sealed King revealed itself, so we probably feel justified in wanting to communicate that to her.

Monique can interpret it however he likes, and if he tries to apply extra meaning to it, we can just go "I learned more about what having a Sealed King entails, and I simply meant what I said. Since I can't tell that to her myself, I would appreciate it if you would pass it on without any additional baggage."
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Could you guys just make an IRC or something so Arch doesn't have to see your bitching?
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You guys are all fucking retards. Power gaming is not gaining power.

Powergaming is metagaming every ounce of power we can in order to become an unstoppable juggernaut.
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>>29740009
they're probably the only royalty that actually likes him still
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>>29739682
That was last night, busta. And we're not supposed to talk about it.
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>>29739777

This is the best response.
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>>29740073
I think it's a bit of a hive affect.

As Arch said, the stadium wasn't full, so many people will hear about the duel threw word of mouth.
And you know how that goes.
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>>29740018
>>29740062
Fuck it, just waifu the princess.

Since she the hardest to waifu, she got the most power to gain from.

Also, the whole fucking quest is about her, there even a bar about how we look at her psychopathic eyes. Right now, we are a dog tier that was demoted from wolf tier even while fighting a sealed king.
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>>29740070
Archelon disagrees.

>>29740073
Everyone who isn't biased in our favor likes Monique.
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>>29739626
Until something forces it to the front, and not just semi conscious mumbling while pinned to a wall, Reinhold is probably going to avoid the subject of his rape.

It's hard to approach without a catalyst forcing him to acknowledge it or that he has to take steps to deal with his issues.

So for now he'll continue coping as he has: Try to get stronger & value his own life very little in the face of a challenge.
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>>29740046
>We learned that only the master of a Sealed King can communicate with it

This is only to hear it, it could hear us just fine during the duel
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Rolled 1

Guys, can you stop arguing now.
You're filling the thread, how about we go argue somewhere else
like a tinychat or something
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>>29739976
We've only been doing magic for a month. I'm sure once we get good at it, we'll figure out how to improvise.
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>>29740096
>she got the most power to gain from.
Except!

The Dragon Waifu gives the most power. And it'd be the most fun. Imagine adventuring with her. Damn, that'd be baller.
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>>29740096
She gives the most political power, but if you want combat power then either sylvie or Rana are who you want.
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>>29740096
I think Marianne might be the only person worse off psychologically than we are. And no, that doesn't mean we can mutually fix each other-it means we will probably both end up worse
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>>29739920
Except win the swordsman tournament. Everything he did was by the sweat of his brow. No networking, no noble influence, nothing
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>>29740100
No, he doesn't. Or we wouldn't be training under the most powerful swordsman in the entire kingdom, and have access to several magic teachers, who could teach us basically any spell we could ever want.

He wants us to WORK for it. Not get it handed to us.
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>>29740142
can't adventure gotta be security guard
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>>29740165
>the only person worse off psychologically than we are
its the opposite there we just buried our trauma deep with in all it takes is one trigger for it to comeback.(like seeing spinny or getting forcibly molested)
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>>29740165
She's not even a problem psychologically.

She's a problem socially.
She understands perfectly fine what's wrong and right, she just has trouble voicing it.

The most dangerous psychologically are Monique (as shown) and Reinhold.
Sylvie is a bit concerning at times but I don't think she's crazy.

Oh, and Vincent.
But his response to everything is kill
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>>29740122
I'm not sure we know for a fact that they can do so while not possessing their wielder, but you're right that it's probably a reasonable thing to think.

>"But the master is the -only- person who the elemental spirit can communicate with, so choosing a master is a rather big deal for them," Agnes explains.

It's kind of ambiguous, though, since "communicate" implies a two-way sharing of information, so it's probably better to go through more formal channels rather than going "HEY PANSY-ASS; BRING OUT THE REAL WINNER SO WE CAN HAVE A CHAT".
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>>29740165
Your wrong there she just has major trust issues, you have to remember that at the failed dance we went into a zombie like trance after our attack, while she just became violent.
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>>29740103
I want to try to make it clear to the girls where we stand, and to try to build a relationship with one of them before we get forcibly route locked into Marie like I fear we will.
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>>29740207
and with the exception of her dad, she straight up refuses to show emotion for anybody other than disdain unless they are literally dying in front of her
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>>29740165
Except evidence points to the contrary? Reinhold doesn't let Marie get away with her bitchiness and self-esteem issues and Marie doesn't let Reinhold get away with his fuck ups.

They do the exact opposite of enable each other.
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Are we allowed to by weapons now?
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>>29740250
This is really highest priority. We cannot guard without a weapon.
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>>29740242
No, she's moody and vindictive, but she's shown care for others.
Even before Rein, because Luci and her have always been good friends.
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>>29740249
>Special Olypmics

Ok, now that made me cracked up.
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Guys we're at 200+ posts with just 2 updates.
Please let's take this somewhere else, people might lose their heads, trolls might come back.
Let's discuss this elsewhere to avoid a bad end
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>>29740229
>completely forgetting niklas
his standard model for science is to use his own body as a test subject and if something goes wrong just cut parts off and regrow them

>>29740235
all i know is it's like the rarest metal, what are it's properties
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>>29740242
She has been shown to care for her old friends and there is the maid, all we are doing is slowly getting her back out of her shell.
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>>29740246
>Reinhold doesn't let Marie get away with her bitchiness and self-esteem

We've made an effort to help her open up, but we have done nothing to stop her in action.
In fact, we took a step back snapping at her.
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>>29740242
That's an outright lie. She apologized and showed remorse for her actions on the first fucking day we met her.
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>>29740242
kek
Nice fabrication, friend
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>>29740250
>buying weapons
you realize granny has a huge stash right? until we get volker's sword fixed (either normal or magic) we should use something from the family collection
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>>29740261
>>29740250
The whole grandma thing and Sylvie with tina just shot the shopping idea down anons.
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>>29740261
We can't guard with one anyway!

ba dum tsh
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>>29740290
He's always thrown back her comments with snark or sarcasm or some kind of polite rebuttal. That was basically how he treated her to the entire first day was not letting her get away with her attitude. The snapping was dumb, but it was basically just a more vindictive version of what he always does.
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>>29740250
I was planning on dropping by our Grandma's house and just grabbing a pile of swords off the wall and testing them out until we find one that we like so we have a replacement for the next couple days.
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>>29740330
It's been so long since Granache, I forgot about our morning joke
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>>29740303
>you have to blame the guys who started the first shit storms in the quest around the beginning
How is that in anyway pointing to the recent threads?
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>>29740330
we had one today, it was just aimed at luci instead (sylvie biting too hard) and i know there was the comment about mari not moving from her reading position all night
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>>29740350
We need to just get a new sword talk to Marie then time skip the hell out of this shit hole.
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>>29740350

We need to reclaim and properly fall back into old habits, as they are familiar.

I'm curious if Marianne will call us out on our lack of self preservation...

I wonder if we'll notice her own misplaced guilt as well?
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>>29740406
I'm hoping we get two.
1.custom made by granny
2.Tina sword.
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Anybody else think the dress in the Opening image is a little low cut for Marianne?

Also:

>Dat Face
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>>29740416

I expect we will, it shows up in her spwech all the time.

Question is whether anon will seize on it.
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>>29740416
If Marie calls us out, we should tell her that if we don't test ourselves, we'll never see how far we can go.
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>>29740261
what about magical martial arts
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>>29740406
I'd agree, but I still want to talk with Luci more. Or we could just take the cool people and adventure
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>>29740442
I think it's a little LOW CHIN.

Some nigga post the fixed version.
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>>29740442
Its a dress for a party and it was fan art from Decu.
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>>29740416
greeting mari is the only acceptable place for one last ice pun, if only to show that we're okay
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>>29740470
An ice pun is a good way to greet her.
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>>29740470
We need to save the last one for when we next see Monique.
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>>29740467
No.
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>>29740470
"I thought I was doing well until he came back out of snowhere. The fight after that left me a little cold."
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>>29740470
"Mari, it's so ICE to see you."
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>>29740491
>>29740470
No, I don't think an ice pun is a good way to greet Marie. At least not this time, I feel like it'd be poking an open wound with a stick right now.

She feels really bad about the duel, after all.
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>>29740470
Please, for one goddamn minute, can we lay off the ice puns.

>>29740512
This guy's got the right of it.
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>>29740512
I thinks its best to show her that we are up beat and still the same old reinhold.
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>>29740530
What's wrong with the ice puns? Do you think you're too cool for them or something?
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>>29740512
This. The puns were shit from the start anyway and there were other ways to try and irritate Monique
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>>29740470
So, you want us to get fired do you?
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>I'm pretty sure that it would be possible to have it consume the bits of your sword and make it whole again.

Yes. Make Us Whole Reinhold.
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>>29740461
I do really like the adventure plan we came up with if Luci has to escape marriage. Would be fun, seeing the world without chaperons able to curbstomp any threat in a matter of seconds
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>>29740512

This.

We can make a stupid joke but no ice puns.
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>>29740512
Yeah, let's not remind her of the duel.
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>>29740530
Not even if we beg her not to give us the cold shoulder?
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>>29740512
I don't care one way or another about the puns or how we greet her, but we don't know in character that she feels bad about the duel.
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Eh, there's no point in not telling them.

"This bracelet," you say as you hold it up so that everyone can get a good look at it, "The archmage back home gave it to me to test out while I'm up here in Marconetti. It has some kind of crystal things inside it that make it so that I can control it a bit."

You then concentrate a bit, commanding your bracelet to move... and form a long tendril that stretches from it, looping around your arm a few times before reabsorbing it into the basic bracelet shape.

"Whoa..." Marius gasps. "Just imagine the sculptures you could make out of something like that..."
"You've found a pretty cool toy there, Reinhold!" Citrine giggles.
"It certainly is interesting, if nothing else," Agnes says. "So you're saying that you can put that thing into Reinhold's sword?" she turns to Sylvie.
"I think so, yeah," Sylvie replies. "But I dunno if Reinhold would be able to move it around like he does. And he'd lose the bracelet itself, too..."


>nah, just get it reforged normally
>let Sylvie do her freaky magic thing
>save the mad science for the mad scientist
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>>29740530
i'm not trying to bring them back in force or anything, but the way we greet mari has always been with a joke, and the best way to show that we're okay is to show her that we've still got the same stupid sense of humor she's had to put up with for the last month
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>>29740574

I think we need to come up with the perfect ice breaker
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>>29740585
>save the mad science for the mad scientist
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>>29740585
>save the mad science for the mad scientist
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>>29740585

>save the mad science for the mad scientist

He may make it a TRIPLE SWORD but at least we know it'd be done right.
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>>29740585
>nah, just get it reforged normally
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>>29740585
>save the mad science for the mad scientist
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>>29740585
>save the mad science for the mad scientist
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>>29740585
>>save the mad science for the mad scientist
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>>29740585
>>save the mad science for the mad scientist
Have grandma make a better sword from her friend.
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>>29740585
>>save the mad science for the mad scientist
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>>29740585
>save the mad science for the mad scientist
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>>29740585
>>nah, just get it reforged normally
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>>29740585
>nah, just get it reforged normally
I'd rather not go full science on our sword.

But im also willing to let Niklaus do it if he's up for it.
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>>29740585

>save the mad science for the mad scientist

Go to the blacksmith and get another sword.
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>>29740585
NULLSPACE BLADE
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>>29740555
"You're fired Reinhold"
"aw, i guess i am not COOL enough for you.."
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>>29740585
>>save the mad science for the mad scientist
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>>29740585
>>save the mad science for the mad scientist
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>>29740585
>let Sylvie do her freaky magic thing
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>>29740585
>save the mad science for the mad scientist
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>>29740585
>save the mad science for the mad scientist
This is a big thing and we need to make sure it's done right.
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>>29740585
>save the mad science for the mad scientist
>Have Grandma order a stronger sword.
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>>29740642
Well, the crystals do absorb magic from the host.
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>>29740585
>>nah, just get it reforged normally
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>>29740585
>Nah, let's reforge it normally
>And maybe mention some /IDEAS/ we have to the mad scientist back home when we get there, since it might be useful to have a magic sword for when we're dealing with magic swords.
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>>29740585
>save the mad science for the mad scientist

"I'm not sure what Niklaus is planning with this thing. I prefer if we put it off until we get his opinion on the matter."
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>>29740585
>save the mad science for the mad scientist
I'd rather not mess with his experiment without his permission.
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>>29740585
>save the mad science for the mad scientist
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>>29740585
>>save the mad science for the mad scientist
i'm not trying to say i don't have faith in sylvie's magical ability, but this is something made by niklas, and when we told them who made it they backed off thinking it was going to explode, and were honestly worried when we said our arm turned green and we felt sick
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>>29740585
>>nah, just get it reforged normally
If it was good enough for Volker, it's good enough for us.
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>>29740585
>>let Sylvie do her freaky magic thing.

what is with the captcha today?
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>>29740585
>save the mad science for the mad scientist

While I do trust Sylvie, I feel like Niklaus will probably throw some extra science gubbins into the mix.
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>>29740585
>nah, just get it reforged normally

>save the mad science for the mad scientist

And I want to add to tell Sylvie that we're not doing this because we don't think it's a good idea, but because we promised we would return the specimen to Niklaus, and mad science still science.
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>>29740585
>save the mad science for the mad scientist
A scientist she is not.
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>>29740585
>>save the mad science for the mad scientist
I'm hoping this makes it into an anti magic sword that absorbs enemy mana.
Also see if grandma can get us a sword that was stronger than Volkers.
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>>29740675
We just proved it isn't good enough for us, though.
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>>29740643
>"You're fired Reinhold"
>"Not cool."
FTFY
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>>29740585
>save the mad science for the mad scientist
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>>29740585
>nah, just get it reforged normally
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>>29740549
I actually don't mind them in-thread. It's people trying to have us keep making them in-character that's kind of a pain.

>>29740586
Then make a joke. There's no reason aside from bandwagoning the last thing to happen to keep making them ice puns.

>>29740585
>save the mad science for the mad scientist

>ask Granny if she could see about talking to the blacksmith regardless. he made a reliable sword before; there's no reason we couldn't try and get another one from him now. It doesn't have to be reforged from fragments of Volker's old blade in order to be serviceable, after all.
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>>29740585
>save the mad science for the mad scientist
Broing it up with science bro
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>>29740590
It should be subtle. We don't want things to snowball out of control.
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>>29740585
>save the mad science for the mad scientist
Ask Sylvie to teach us Fragment Blader.

If we're going to break every sword we swing might as well have a lot of back up blades.
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>>29740585
>save the mad science for the mad scientist
>get a replacement sword meanwhile
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>>29740585
save the mad science for the mad scientist
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>>29740674
I'm more worried that Niklaus trusted it to us for his experiments, destroying it just to put in our sword is a pretty selfish move toward a mage bro.
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>>29740585

>nah, just get it reforged normally

Let's give Luci and Agnes a reason to visit us in Granache, shall we?
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>>29740705
That's a pretty good idea, actually.
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>>29740585
>>save the mad science for the mad scientist
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>>29740675
>If it was good enough for Volker, it's good enough for us.
Obviously not, since it broke and all.
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>>29740688
>sword that absorbs magic
finally a reason to post this
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>>29740585
>Mad science

*BUT* we should invite sylvie to help. Gets around her dads's restriction since it's helping us, not Niklaus. Technically.
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>>29740585
>nah, just get it reforged normally
>save the mad science for the mad scientist
Would there be any benefit to using our sword instead of any old metal.
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>>29740705
I was hoping to learn the hardest flying spell, but yeah the weapon spells sound like a good idea as well.
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>>29740585
>save the mad science for the mad scientist

Although, if we use Sylvie, it might become infused with the power of love, which means it would be the most powerful weapon on the planet.

But the mad scientist would probably make the new sword do something cool, like glow in the dark, or dispense wine,
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>>29740705
That's a good idea. Best not to waste money if we can just magic a sword for us.
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>>29740585
>save the mad science for the mad scientist
antimagic sword? antimagic sword
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>>29740585
>>save the mad science for the mad scientist
Yeah, I want to hang out with our bro.

What weapon do we use in the meantime we just have our trusty Dagger.
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>>29740585
We'll take it to Mr. Archmage. It's his toy, he pretty much just lent it to us. Ultimately, whether Tina is allowed to be sacrificed to the god of sword is up to him.
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>>29740585
>nah, just get it reforged normally
Do you realize that if we put Tina into our sword, she'll probably never become sentient?

Don't kill our daughter.
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>>29740705
powergaming.
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>>29740585
Could we try a combination of these?

Feed the bracelet just the blade fragments and not the hilt(guard pommel and grip)

If we succeed in forming the blade again the blacksmith could just put it back together and it would be good as new.

If it fails we can get a new blade for the hilt.

Can't lose!
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>>29740585
>save the mad science for the mad scientist
>Get Volker's sword reforged
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>>29740705
and given our affinity (both metal and swords) we'd probably learn it fast
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>>29740585
>save the mad science for the mad scientist
lets leave science to the scientists
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>>29740705
This.

Get Niklaus on the sword and learn this spell from Sylvie for the meantime.
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>>29740585
>>save the mad science for the mad scientist
AND
>nah, just get it reforged normally
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>>29740760
Sword > daughter
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>>29740738
Sword was a bro. I need to go watch that again.
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>>29740735
It took a Sealed King to do it. We can't expect to always fight people with one of the most powerful weapons in the setting.
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>>29740745
to be fair, we always want a good sword. fragment blades may be summonable, but they're sub par quality and we can run out of magic
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>>29740705
This.

>>29740738
Derflinger was the best thing about Zero no Tsukaima.
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>>29740795
If some border guard scrub found one while climbing a mountain, I'm sure we'll fight plenty more people with magic/god swords
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>>29740705
time for unlimited blade works
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>>29740786
>watch
dear god no, anime was butchered from light novels. and i mean like a good half of the material is missing for the sake of girl parts and explosions
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>>29740585
>>save the mad science for the mad scientist
Mana eating sword is a go.
Also we should learn that weapon spell and get a sword better than volkers made.
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>>29740804
Point still stands that we'll break our replacement sword eventually. It's better back up and more practical than carrying around a bunch of swords. We're the mobile type, we shouldn't weigh ourselves down.
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>>29740688
A modified technique of the Turstarkuri monks' peaceful ways is to turn magical energies on their owner.
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>>29740705

This idea doesn't sound bad.

I still think that we should get a second sword, however, since the blacksmith isn't repairing our sword, but making a new one. Just come back for it later.
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>writing
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>>29740837
So pick up a replacement or two and have Fragment Blader for back up?
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>>29740816
Those weapons are extremely rare and powerful, and us even seeing one is more than we ever should have by rights
Therefore, we're going to fight all 26 of them and never have a chance of using one ourself
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>>29740837
i meant one good sword and the spell, don't just rely on the poor quality swords the spell makes. get another sword that will last years. or get one from niklas and insta reforge it if it does break
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>>29740822
>Not gates of Babylon
Full on pleb.
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>>29740850

We dont come back for it.

Its an excuse to have grandma over.
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>>29740816
Or we can just make our own god.
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>>29740832

Fragment Blade (or any of the Fragment spells) can't be of higher quality than an actual sword, iirc.

>Fragment Blader
>Cost: 3MP (base: 4MP)
>Element: Metal (Earth)
>Incantation:
>Effect: Materializes a crude, swordlike metal blade. Sturdiness depends on the caster's skill. Useful in a pinch, but the blade created is never of higher quality than a proper sword.
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IRIDIUM TITANIUM CARBON ALLOY HYPERPHASE SWORD BONDED BY CRYSTALS
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>>29740829
I want to live
why did they have to take him before he finished his life's work
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>>29740705
Are Fragment Blader swords as strong or as high quality as hand forged blades. I honestly don't think so or else magic users would be pumping these out like crazy. Good back up tho.

>>29740767
Fast is relative. If it takes a normal person three months to learn and it take us one month it could be considered fast. (Just an example, I don't think it's that complicated.)
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>>29740887
>no nanotubes
>no monofilament
>no nanomachines, son
Shit sord, would not waifu
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>>29740877
>being slow us fuck and not able to recreate your weapons
Keep trying you peon.
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>>29740886
It could be the first spell we modify or expand.

Just because THAT spell doesn't do it, doesn't mean A spell can't do it.
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>>29740888
because god hates me for some slight i've forgotten about
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>>29740886
Unless we Shirou it up and try to surpass the limits of the spell.
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>>29740907

Fair point.

It'd be nice to experiment.
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>>29740907
>modify
Reinhold can't modify spells m8, we need whatever training the loli got
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>>29740886
but we can make it of equal quality of a proper sword. Sealed Kings are proper swords. We need to get this enchanted into a blade, challange Monique again, and fire Sealed Kings at him
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Wait, I have a question

Is leaving the mad science to the mad scientist mutually exclusive from getting the sword reforged?

Really curious, Arch.
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>>29740886
>>Fragment Blader
i wonder if we could learn to quickly cast this in battle
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>>29740886
Cast it, then once one breaks make another?
It serves both as training and as magic limit increase.
Plus, it'll be like Emiya!
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>>29740907
Probably, a spell like that would be way to complex for rein at the moment though.
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>>29740888
Damn it, now I'm depressed too.
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>>29740937
we probably could. arnaud has been training us to cast in combat, it's just that we don't really know any good in combat spells except for the holy shield, which while useful, doesn't really fit rein's highly aggressive style
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>>29740937
Fragment blader is balls and you'll never have unlimited blade works.

Just accept it now. Fragment blader is meant for assassins to make hidden blades.
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>>29740872
Our new mission in life is to defeat all 26 swords without an enchanted weapon. Just to prove humans don't need help from elements and dragons. We will forever be a legend.
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>>29740988
Would they even risk fighting someone renowned for breaking swords?
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>>29740988
But only if we get permission from Massa Marianne first like a good little pet.
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>>29740988
no no no, anon. Our new mission is to shatter all 26 swords without an enchanted weapon
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shit, sorry i brought FoZ up arch, this is the idolmaster you like right? will this cheer you up
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>>29740877
Reality Marbles are far superior to an armory
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>>29741003
Exactly for how long are we convalescent? We may need a productive hobby to pass time.
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>>29741009
B-But that's murder
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>>29741014
Then we"ll apologize if we don't give a classic unfunny sarcastic response
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>>29741012
In all honesty, Archer could have easily won that entire war if he had truly wanted to.
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>>29741014
Can we just swap out Princesses? Take Luciana and leave Marianne here? she's a nicer person and proven to be more interesting as well, even if we don't want to romance her,
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>>29741030
who fuckin cares at this point
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>>29741030
and? going full Blackguard would be pretty damn interesting
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>>29741060
i'm pretty sure the fire sealed king's non sealed brother who has the strongest army in the world on top of being a demigod would care
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>>29740585
>save the mad science for mad scientist
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>>29741067
Maybe for you

Not everybody's that edgy
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>>29741048
Nah, Luci belongs to Monique.
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>>29741074
okay so some far away gaycunt might be angry but waa who cares
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>>29741048
>Luciana flees unwanted political marriage to Monique
>Marie sends us with her to guard her best friend
>Princess On the Run Quest
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Cant we just use a big lump of iron at this point?
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>>29741134
Not unless you want to spend years stuck on a boat
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>>29741122
>far away
for now, not all the kings are in granche and marconetti
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>>29741125
Fund it
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"Hmm... I think I'll leave the mad science to Niklaus," you say. "No offense though, Sylvie."
"Oh, I'm not offended or anything!" Sylvie giggles. "There's a chance that he'd get mad about us using your bracelet to make a sword without including him, anyways..."
"But instead, would you mind teaching me... what was it called... Fragment Blader?"

"Eh!?" Sylvie blurts out.
"I figure that it'd be useful if I get disarmed again, even if it's not able to create a really good sword," you say.
"Umm... I'd love to!" Sylvie says with a beaming smile. "How does after we get back to the castle sound? Or any time, it's not like I have anything better to do..."


>LET'S GO FRAGMENT BREAD
>maybe later
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>>29741045
Gilgamesh could have too, Heracles as an Archer could have and Caster could have if she wasn't a retard who loses to a mildly reinforced Rin when she is 20 times as durable than a human
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>>29741009
Would this make us the King Slayer? I'm not sure how I fell about sleeping with Citrine.
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>>29741125
That would be excellent.
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>>29741154
>>maybe later
Should probably see Marie. You know, actually do our job?
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>>29741154
>maybe later
We've still got people to talk to.
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>>29741125
voting for this
>>29741154
and voting for later, we still have stuff to do
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>>29741154

>LET'S GO FRAGMENT BREAD

Just do it now.
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>>29741149
>threads stuck in marconneti
>threads stuck on a boat
Same deal anon
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>>29741154
>After we get back to the castle sound great

Lets go to greet the marie.
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>>29741154
>maybe later

We're still recovering after all.
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>>29741154
>maybe later
While it's nice to know it, we have people to talk to
Like Marianne and the rest of the granache party
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>>29741154
>maybe later
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>>29741154
"I should check on Marianne first but anytime you're available after that. I also need to pick up a replacement sword for the time being."
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>>29741164
Nah, if Shirou could take Gilgamesh out then Archer would have been able to do so with little effort.
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>>29741154

>maybe later
>immediately later

We gotta see Marie

But we also need you know a sword to be a bodyguard
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>>29741154
>>maybe later
We still haven't met up with Marie yet, and Elena and Andreas are still waiting for us out in the waiting room.
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>>29741154
>FRAGMENT BREAD

Unless it takes too long. Also, ask about Marianne and Nicolette.
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>>29741125
Please arch?
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>>29741154
>maybe later
Find marianne
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>>29741154
>maybe later
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>>29741154
say when we get back is fine, but then ask granny if she can get us a real sword from her collection to hold us till we get back to niklas, and then ask where mari is since we haven't even heard one thing about her since we woke up

>>29741167
king breaker
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>>29741154
>maybe later
Check on the person we're supposed to guard
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>>29741154
>maybe later
we still have to see who the rest of our friends are
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>>29741154
>maybe later
We need to visit Marianne.
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>>29741202
This.
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>>29741154
>>maybe later
Might as well make sure we get everybody up-to-speed on our condition first.

That said, given that we're still supposed to be able to guard our charge, doing so without any weapon at all seems like kind of a difficult prospect.

I mean, we've got our back-up knife, but that's not really quite the same as having an actual weapon on hand.
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>>29741154
>maybe later
Let's see if we can talk to Marianne
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>>29741154

>>29741193
This sounds good to me.
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>>29741149
lets not
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>>29741154
>>maybe later
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>>29741154
>Maybe later
We still need to check in with the principle and our boss.
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>>29741154
>>maybe later
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>>29741202
I like this
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>>29741154
>maybe later
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>>29741109
>everything not a childrens cartoon is grimdark and edgy as fuck
Okay.

>>29741154
Fragment Blade
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>>29741154
>maybe later

Also this: >>29741202
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>>29741202

This.
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>>29741125
If Luci gets set up with some bullshit political marriage, this is happening
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>>29741125
You.. I like you
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>>29741154
>maybe later
we have a tsundere to placate/comfort
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>>29741154
>>maybe later
Find Marie.

Twenty twenty twenty-four hours to go. I wanna be berated!
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>>29741154
>>maybe later
We still have to see the other worried people
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>>29741203
>with little effort
If you actually think this, you're a retard. Gilgamesh is an arrogant faggot who thought some kid couldn't beat him - so he didn't try. Archer is a Servant, Gilgamesh would actually try and when Archer starts pulling out NPs, Gil'd probably use Ea
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Er, sorry if I wasn't specific.
The vote was whether to do it at first opportunity after getting back to the castle in Marconetti, not RIGHT NOW.
You'd still be checking on Marianne and all that beforehand.

It's still up to you though.
>voting timer reset to after this post
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>>29741267
He's talking about killing 26 thinking beings just for the sake of breaking some swords.

How is that not, HERP IM DARK AND EDGY, TIME TO AVENGE MYSELF ON SENTIENT SWORDKIND!
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>>29741202
This
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>>29741296
>The vote was whether to do it at first opportunity after getting back to the castle in Marconetti, not RIGHT NOW.

Oh, well then, maybe.
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>>29741281
But anon, Marianne isn't a tsundere. She's a dissocial-type sociopath
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>>29741202
This is best, maybe Grandma or the Castle armoury has something we can borrow.
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>>29741309
This
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>>29741296
Oh, in that case
>>29741154
>LET'S GO FRAGMENT BREAD
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>>29741296
>After getting back to Granache
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>>29741296
Ooooh. In that case HELL YEAH MAGIC.
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>>29741154
>>LET'S GO FRAGMENT BREAD
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>>29741296
Then this: >>29741202
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>>29741314
>sociopath
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>>29741296
Just don't drag things out please. Lets try to get to the juicy parts. The party had like 3 dozen prompts of "who you wan to talk to now?"
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>>29741296
>>LET'S GO FRAGMENT BREAD
then I'll go with this
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>>29741296
oh, well then, Yes first thing
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>>29741296
>maybe later
We can learn when we go back to our home. Why waste time in a foreign nation learning magic? Might as well interact with people as much as we can before we go back to our normal routine.
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I'm confused

/tg/ DIDN'T take the first opportunity to get a bullshit magic sword?
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>>29741154
>maybe later
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>>29741296
Then yes magic naow
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>>29741154
maybe later, when we're back to the castle
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>>29741296
This is probably fine, then.
>>29741202

If we can't get a replacement in the meantime, it's probably better to learn it sooner rather than later, but if we can, we'd probably be fine waiting to learn it until we have downtime.
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>>29741314
No, she's an abuse victim that puts on a facade of 'superiority' due to her upbringing.
She's actually fragile, has low self esteem and cares deeply about others, just doesn't think she's worthy of their company...
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>>29741296
we'll see what's going on, sometime tonight probably
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>>29741360
>>29741296
Archelon, how do we into BBEG?
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>>29741360
We just don't want to risk fucking it up.
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>>29741360
Couldn't take it even if we wanted to

No point anyway - not everything has to be centered around us.
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>>29741296
Agreed this then.
>>29741202
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>>29741296
>maybe later
The first time first time we are bored and nothing is going on sure, but I bet we are going to be pretty busy just dealing with shit for the next day or so.
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>>29741154
>LET'S GO FRAGMENT BREAD
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>>29741296
Do it as soon as we get back!
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>>29741394
Why must very story have epic quests and ultimate evils?
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>>29741296

Still say let's do it now.

We could just use that to deplete our magic charges instead of water drops so everyone can wonder why our room is so full of swords.
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>>29741394
Is it bad that my first reaction was "Now that's a badass picture of Greagory!"?
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>>29741314
eh, closer to hostile or cheated. I'd guess cheated, since she's got an inferiority complex on top of being full of rage and hate
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>>29741296
learn after getting back to castle
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>>29741296
let's do it then
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>>29741445

He always don the armor for birthdays.

Which is a major reason Nicolette hate him.
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>>29741296
hell yes, first opportunity
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>>29741445
yes, that's clearly sir vincent
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>>29741296
sometime later
Other stuff could come up still
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>>29741296
>>LET'S GO FRAGMENT BREAD
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>>29741296
Oh. Well, yes then. As soon as we get home then.
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>>29741296
>LET'S GO FRAGMENT BREAD
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>>29741296
>Later
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>writing
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>>29741394
Croaker pls you're not fooling anybody.
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>>29741296

LETS GO FRAGMENT BREAD
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>>29741522
"first opportunity after getting back" doesn't mean right when we walk in the door, it's when we first have a chance, and not waiting till we get back to granch
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>>29741539
waiting on FULL LIFE CONSEQUENCES now
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I don't want to start shit, though, I most likely will with this post, but, I'm very proud of you tonight, /tg/ .
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>>29741394
>>29741445

It's Greg's version of "Dad cleaning Shotgun when Daughter brings home a boy".
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>>29741628
Well now that the wheel skeles are here I'm too scared to post. BRB having nervous breakdown.
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>>29741628
It's doing pretty well so far, yeah.
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>>29741394
>how do we into BBEG?
First we have to into magic.

So never.
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>>29741628
you just had to jinx it didn't you
you bitch
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>>29741628
Yup, thread's pretty civil tonight.
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>>29741628
Its not like theres anything to shitstorm over with the 3 measly posts by arch. Even then, theres been a few minor shitgusts and waifu squabbles.
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>>29741628
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>>29741568
I think it's really funny how people kept giving him shit about "the quest going no where" and "our choices don't matter"

Then, when there is forward progression people freak the fuck out. I'm loving it but Arch can never win.
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>>29741628

Two days ago was relatively nice, too. And then...

Stay wary.
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>>29741628
Probably because we're actively planning something instead of asking Agnes for an infodump.
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>>29741628
>archelon doesn't answer criticism
>not many people suggest to change things
>no one telling them to fuck off
>not much shitposting of samefagging
>no escalation
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"Sounds good," you say.
"Okay, I'll be looking forward to it!" Sylvie chirps.

Great, so your sword may not be dead after all. You'd really hate to lose it after all this time... even if it may not quite be the same. And if Niklaus is actually able to do his thing, you shouldn't even have to worry about having your sword break ever again!

"Hmm..." Agnes says as she grabs her cane and slowly rises to her feet. "You'll still need a weapon in the meantime though, seeing as how you still have a job to do."
"Yeah, I'm kind of useless without a sword on me," you reply with a long sigh.
"Let me see if I can borrow someone's carriage to head home, I'll lend you my own dueling sword in the meantime!"

Wait- AGNES'S sword!?

"Y- you don't have to do that," you stammer. "I mean-"
"Think of it as a loan," Agnes replies. "I intend to get it back from you at some point, and I expect it to still be in one piece when I do... but your form is a little better than Volker's in that regard, so I don't think I need to worry -too- much, she laughs.
"Umm... you can use our carriage!" Citrine shouts. "Marius wouldn't mind, right?"
"Not at all," Marius says, shaking his head. "It's the absolute least I can do."
"Very well, then let's get going!" Agnes laughs.


>[1/?]
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>>29741628
It is rather calm and delightful tonight.
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>>29741697
Probably not the same people
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>>29741758
GIVE GRAM A HUG!
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>>29741758
>inb4 Agnes sword has bullshit enchantments
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>>29741758

Wait, where are we going right now?
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You make me very happy tonight, /tg/ .
Let us join in Jolly Cooperation like this every night!
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So if the crystals eat magic, then wouldn't some really hungry crystals make a Kingslayer?

I always thought "Regicide" would be a ballin' sword name.
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>>29741815
Don't jinx it.
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>>29741820
...I don't know if that name would fly given our current avenue of employment.
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Convenient.
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>>29741758

> "... but your form is a little better than Volker's in that regard, so I don't think I need to worry -too- much," she laughs.

Well, at least she's honest.

We should still go to see the blacksmith.
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>>29741792
I think she and Marius and possibly Citrine are going back to the Eschenwauld Estate.

We are staying in this bed until we're a bit more well rested and the rest of our waiting parade of well wishers has had a crack at us.

...well, well wishers and whoever wants to tear us down for being so fool hardy.

That is likely to be Nico and Mari.
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>>29741820
i think Regalis would fit better, since we're serving a king and not trying to murder him
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Fragment Blader makes THROW SWORD slightly less retarded if we just throw the shitty FB swords.
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>>29741820
>eats sords
>likes kings
Just call it a Kingseeker
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>>29741820
remember these have been sucking magic off of their partners for 1000 years, we may be able to add a bit to the time they're stuck in sword form, but outright breaking one is going to take a lot more than that
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>>29741896
combine it with clay spread and we basically have a revolver that fires swords
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>>29741758
We need to get Agnes some kind of longevity treatments. Citrines kids need to grow up listening to her stories and learning the family style from her!
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>>29741758
>[2/2]

Holy crap, she's actually letting you borrow her sword...

"Thanks, Grandma!" you say as you spring up from the bed (as best you can, since you're still feeling a bit weak), and give her a big hug.
"Haha, this is what I've missed..." Agnes says as she returns your hug. "...the love of grandchildren."

After you've gotten you fill of Grandma Hugs, you sit back down on the bed as Agnes, Citrine and Marius head off to retrieve Agnes's old sword. You're curious as to where your other friends are... but your main concern at this point is with your charge.

"Where's Marianne?" you ask. "Is she out there in the waiting room like the others?"
"Umm..." Sylvie sighs. "...she's with her father and Reya right now. She's really mad at you for being as reckless as you were, Reinhold..."


>ask if she can come and see you
>give the Princess some time to cool off first, where be the nicolette?
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>>29741991
>give the Princess some time to cool off first, where be the nicolette?
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>>29741991
>>give the Princess some time to cool off first, where be the nicolette?
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>>29741991

>give the Princess some time to cool off first, where be the nicolette?
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>>29741922
>Get into ROUND 2 with Setsu
>Tinablade hungry
>It smells the magic, starts crystal drooling errywhere
>Latches onto Setsu, draining power like a leech
>Not deadly enough to kill her, but Setsu starts screaming in pain into Monique's head
>Monique starts screaming about how the whoreson has conspired to assassinate Setsuranka
>Although Setsu isn't kill, people hear that the crystal sword did -something-
>They start calling the blade Regicide or Kingslayer or something
>Tons of people pissed off at Reinhold for being like the second coming of the crazy fuck that sealed them in the first place.
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>>29741991
>give the Princess some time to cool off first, where be the nicolette?
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>>29741991
>ask if she can come and see you
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>>29741991
>give the Princess some time to cool off first, where be the nicolette?
Save the best for last
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>>29741991
>give the Princess some time to cool off first, where be the nicolette?
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>>29741991
>give the Princess some time to cool off first, where be the nicolette?
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>>29741991
>>give the Princess some time to cool off first, where be the nicolette?

"With Melanie?"
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>>29741991
>>ask if she can come and see you
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>>29741991
>give the princess some time to cool off first, where be the nicolette?
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>>29741991
>give the Princess some time to cool off first, where be the nicolette?

Hey Arch, Agnes has become a pretty important character in the quest, yet you don't use any pic for her. What does she look like?
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>>29741991
>give the Princess time to COOL off first, where might Nicolette be?
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>>29741991
>give the Princess some time to cool off first, where be the nicolette?
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>>29741991
>give the Princess some time to cool off first, where be the nicolette?
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>>29741991
>Cool off

I see archelon wants more ICE PUNS.
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>>29741991
>>ask if she can come and see you
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>>29741991
>>give the Princess some time to cool off first, where be the nicolette?
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>>29741991
>give the Princess some time to cool off first, where be the nicolette?


Well she's probably going to be mad too anyways

God damn I can already feel the smacks coming
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>>29741896
>SWORD THROW ATTACK will be a legitimate option in the future
I am genuinely excited for that
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>>29741991
>give the Princess some time to cool off first, where be the nicolette?
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>>29741991
>>give the Princess some time to cool off first, where be the nicolette?
mari's with the king, so we're fine for now
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>>29742125
this
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>>29741991
>ask if she can come and see you
Honestly, I don't see her mood improving at all if we give her time.
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>>29742116
we need to find a way to propell them at supersonic speed, so we have swordgun
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>>29742107
>Inb4 smack causes Reinhold to flashback to childhood abuse and break down into mess
>Marianne gets even angrier at him and herself
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When nico comes to see us we should, at some point, giver the "you like crabby patties" smile.
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>>29742150
Well, there is that gofast spell.
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>>29741991
We should let her cool off,
otherwise she'll be icy towards us.
So let's just chill with Nicolette instead.
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>>29742150
Some wind spell. We could make them, then hold them in the air, and then use a wind/gravity/magnetism spell to launch them
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>>29742163
>Casting Boost on people shreds their bodies
>we start Boosting swords instead
>combine with a spell that causes metal to explode
sword rockets?
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>>29741991
>give the Princess some time to cool off first, where be the nicolette?
Preferably we'll catch Mari when she's not with her father or anyone else so that Reinhold and her can have an honest and uninterrupted discussion about why he did what he did. Hopefully an opportunity for more character development.
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Guess it's time for an interlude.

>writing
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>>29742205

Fuck yeah.
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>>29742205
pls help calm Marianne down, Aquaman.

You're our best only hope.
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>>29740738
That magnificent bastard is right up there with the likes of Lilacor in terms of awesome talking sword-bros.
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>>29742191

Nicolette comes in, Gregory not far behind.

We get smacked, scolded, praised, smacked.

Then HIS ROYAL AQUAMAN arrives and laughs whilst smacking us on the back with the force of 1000 guffaws.
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Let her be mad ive got a pun just for her

Princess you've been awfully cold lately

or
Its not my fault princess he pulled that sword outa snowhere
OR
If I backed out when he brought that sword out if would look like I had cold feet
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>>29742233
Larry is the greatest
I just started playing BGII again and had almost forgotton how amazing it was to equip Minsc with him
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As Monique slowly regains consciousness, the first thing that he notices is how much his chest hurts. WHY does it... that's right. Setsuranka. She was holding his ribs together, but then she dropped the Possession.

Must not have been that bad though, since it's only -painful- and not -excruciating-, not to mention that he's able to breathe normally. Great, now all he has to do is stand up and walk off the arena grounds... and then he opens his eyes and realizes that he's not there anymore.

"...where -is- this?" Monique asks out loud. The ceiling is white, and he sees unfamiliar buildings outside the window...
"Monique!" Matthias shouts, jumping from his seat beside the-
"...Matthias?" he mumbles. "Why am I in a bed?"

As Matthias grabs his hand and squeezes it tightly, Monique looks at his brother. His eyes... they're red? What, was he crying? No, that's stupid. Matthias hasn't cried since the day of Marcel and Michiko's wedding.

>[1/8]
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>>29742242
...these are potentially good.
The Tsun must flow.
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>>29742242

How about STFU with the damn puns, seriously.
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>>29742205
Is it AQUAMAN interlude?
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>>29742258
>Matthias hasn't cried since the day of Marcel and Michiko's wedding.
...damn, dude's got it bad.
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>>29742258
I guess you could say that Matthias lost his cool
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>>29742274
no such luck
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>>29742242
I like them!
>>29742267
Stop being such a spoilsport. Loosen up, maybe chill out a bit?
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>>29742258

No, but just as good.

Now where will Matthias go from here with Monique?

Is there a scolding in order? Or has simple brotherly worry won the day.
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>>29741991
asking if SHE could come see us would have been a mistake if you ask me.
i mean, she's a princess after all, we could have asked if WE could go see her.
oh well, i think we did the right choice with giving her some time to cool anyway
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>>29741896
Like I said.

Full Mifune.

>http://www.veoh.com/watch/v16897969shBZ8MkC?h1=Battles--Soul+Eater%3A+Sid+vs+Mifune
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>>29742267
I agree, let's try to only break into puns during combat. That will be our thing.
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>>29742278
"Monique, the healers say you'll n-never walk again!"
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>>29742258
And Matthias once again proves himself Best-Bro. Monique doesn't deserve him.
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>>29742267
nigga I spoilered them for a reason if you dont like puns then dont read them. Shit.
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>>29742258
d'awwww

Why must we tear each other apart like this?
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>>29742325
which is why he's leaving to not!Japan, only to return with fluffy tail harem
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>>29742258
I love you Matthias. Your bro is a jerk but I love you.
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whatever Kitsune make better wives
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>>29742021
More like it'll turn into TinaxSetsu lesblading.

>CAPTCHA: sucebes instructor
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>>29742339
Because Monique is about to get a round of blowjobs for being a spiteful dishonorable prick with a weapon he in no way deserves and yet can never be taken away from him.
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>>29741991
>>give the Princess some time to cool off first, where be the nicolette?
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>>29742319
"Monique, there's no easy way to say this...but...they had to amputate your hair"

"WHAT! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"

Then Monique wakes up, and he still has hair, it was just a bad dream.
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>>29742258

"Are you okay!?" Matthias asks as he peers into his brother's eyes as if to check for something. "You don't have a concussion, do you? What about your breathing, does it hurt?"
"N- no," Monique replies. "My chest hurts in general, but I'm fine aside from that... what happened, anyways? Where am I?"
"You must've landed on your head," Matthias says, rolling his eyes.

He then slumps back down into his chair and breathes a long sigh of relief before turning to Monique once again.

"Several shattered ribs, a pierced lung, lacerations..." Matthias recites a list of Monique's various injuries. "If not for that Sealed King of yours keeping your ribs intact, you'd probably be dead right now."
"Haha... Setsuranka saved me after all..." Monique laughs wearily as he looks over to the wall that she's propped up against. "Could you bring her over to me?"

Doing as he was asked, Matthias walks over to the Sealed King, picks it up, and walks back over to Monique... and then he used his index finger to flick his younger brother directly in the middle of his forehead.

Damn it, that hurts.

>[2/8]
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>>29742358
i guess you could say they'll scissor
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>>29742359
Maybe he can get better.

We just need to distance him from Reinhold, considering that's what makes him go nuts
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Matthias is the best.
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>>29742252
Talking swords really are the best when they're being rowdy bros instead of vindictive cunts like Khazidhea.
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>>29742370
And now for Monique to get bitched at bit HIS waifu.
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>>29742359
>can never be taken away from him
well, didn't arch said there was a ritual to bypass that? if something happened to him, he'd probably give the sword to his bro, who'd get a lot cooler
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>>29742396
fuck Khazidhea. The only one who touched that damn thing who got a happy end was Tos'un
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>>29742373
..fused blades?
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>>29742373
Only if there are kamuis? in this setting.
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>>29742407
I still have a hard time weighing which sentient blade was a bigger asshole: Khazidhea or Charon's Claw.
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>>29742430
Depends on if you weight the amount of people's lives fucked with, or how much you fuck with them. Because Charon's Claw only really destroyed Enteri, while Khazidhea seems to make almost everyone who comes into contact with it die tragically
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>>29742370

"I would have punched you, but you're still injured... and just WHEN did you plan on telling me that you stumbled on a legendary goddamned artifact?" Matthias asks, dropping the sword on his brother's chest. "So this was what you've been talking to for the past two months?"
"What, you thought I was crazy?" Monique asks as he positions his sword against the wall closest to him. "It's thanks to Setsuranka here that I've been able to enjoy the good fortune of the past few weeks... it was even her idea to drag you out here with me."

Caught completely off-guard by this revelation, Matthias stares at the sword for a few seconds before turning back to Monique.

"Well you can tell her that I appreciate the concern, but that still doesn't change the fact that you're a damned idiot," Matthias scowls. "You nearly get yourself killed, and you cackle like a villain in a play in front of EVERYONE important in Marconetti... not to mention the fact that our own king and his family were watching too," he sighs.

Well, he may have gone a bit overboard...

...or a lot overboard...


>[3/8]
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>>29742430

I'd say Charon's Claw.

Khazidhea at least wanted to be wielded. Charon's Claw pretty much killed everyone who wanted to try except Entreri.
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>>29742462

That's right Matthias, tell it like it is.
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>>29742462

Remember the Evil Overlords List, Monique.

No cackling.

Not worth it despite the health benefits.
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>>29742370
>"Haha... Setsuranka saved me after all..."
Yeah that's what you should take away from this.

Not that if the sword hadn't been pumping you full of drugs, you wouldn't have kept fighting due to all your horrible injuries.
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>>29742462
Matthias should have gotten the sword
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>>29742462
>"You nearly get yourself killed, and you cackle like a villain in a play in front of EVERYONE important in Marconetti... not to mention the fact that our own king and his family were watching too," he sighs.
This reminds me...

>"Heh, you might be right..." Adrien laughs as he takes in the view. "It'd be a pretty good backdrop for a fight, don't you think?"
>"What, like in those plays you're obsessed with?" Volker replies.
I bet Adrien would've had a blast watching this whole ordeal.

Who knows? Maybe he did.
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>>29742509
Cue to Adrien coming to talk to Reinhold.
please arch, please
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>>29742462

"Dealing with Reinhold seems to set off a switch in my head," Monique says, sighing. "But now that our score is settled-"
"What, breaking his sword and then gloating about it?" Matthias asks. "That was an asshole move. I know how beat up you were when he broke Great-Grampa's sword, and then you go and do the same thing to him..."
"It was retribution-"
"It was being a gigantic asshole," Matthias shakes his head. "All of us were excited as hell when you did your big reveal, but then you had to go and bend the rules by actually using its ice magic..."
"Everything I did was tournament legal-"

"It was BULLSHIT," Matthias shouts. "The other guy didn't have a magic sword, so how the hell's it even slightly fair for you to be shooting ice all over the goddamned place? And then you stabbed the hell out of him just to make a point!"
"I was trying to make him submit," Monique replies. "If I wanted to be sadistic, there's a lot worse that I could have done..."
"Whatever, man," he shakes his head. "Justify it however you like, it doesn't change the fact that what you did wasn't right. You idolize Great-Grampa so much, do you think he would've agreed with the way you handled that? Mom taught me to read from his book too, you know... the rules regarding magic swords were intended for a duel where BOTH people had them, not the stunt that you pulled."

>[4/8]
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>>29742547
rekt
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>>29742547
Ice told.
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>>29742547
Hell yeah, Matthias!
Call him out on his bullshit!
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>>29742547
>"It was BULLSHIT," Matthias shouts. "
you are the better brother, Matthias. I pray we get an interlude when you meet your perfect Eastern woman and her many fluffy tails
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>>29742547
Matthias is a fucking pimp
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>>29742547
holy shit, Matthias is a badass
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oooh that burn hurts!
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>>29742547

Is the Sealed King using magic, or did Matthias just lay down some cold hard truth on his little brother.
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>>29742547
>the rules regarding magic swords were intended for a duel where BOTH people had them, not the stunt that you pulled

Matthias tell it like it be.
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>>29742547
All hail Matthias, lord of hard truth and fluffy tails.
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>>29742596
Matthias is awesome
Monique is still a whiny bitch, and the Sealed King is still 'not magic' for dueling purposes
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>>29742578
...you took the words out of my mouth and made them more elegant. Matthais deserves /ALL/ the fluffy tails.
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>>29742547

<You might want to apologize to your brother for making him worry so much,> Setsuranka says. <He was reduced to tears when he saw just how badly you were hurt.>
<Wha- he was!?> Monique replies. <Damn it all...>
<Not to mention that he has a point about the duel. You know that I'll support you in whatever you do, but that doesn't mean that I agree with it.>

Done with his mental conversation with his sword, Monique turns to his brother.

"...I suppose you have a point," Monique says with a deep sigh. "And I admit that my victory feels somewhat hollow."
"I bet it does," Matthias replies, glaring at him. "Even a lot of the people who think you're awesome for having a Sealed King likened the end of that fight to a grown man beating on a child."
"They do?"
"Yeah, and Sadaharu thinks the same thing," Matthias shakes his head. "I was going to try and see if you could come along with me when I go to Kinsen, but I don't think I'm going to bother now seeing as how you traumatized his kid."

Matthias then stands up from his chair and walks to the door.

"I'm gonna go get something to eat and also tell them that you finally woke up," Matthias says. "Try not to do anything else moronic while I'm gone."

As Matthias slams the door behind him, Monique falls back onto his pillow and closes his eyes.

>[5/8]
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>>29742547
Matthias just earned another fluffy tail on his waifu
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>>29742633
SO at this point, how many does she have?
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>>29742623
here monique, have some aloe vera for that BURN
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>>29742652
All of them
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>>29742623
Status: Told
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>>29742623
>"Try not to do anything else moronic while I'm gone."
damn it matthias, when will you learn that saying this makes bad things happen
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>>29742652
all of the ones in Kinsen, and he's starting to take ones from other countries as well
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>>29742623
And then in walks Reinhold...
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>>29742676
good
Monique needs to get reckt a good three dozen more times in the next couple days
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>>29742678
>rolls in
>challenges him to a wheelchair race
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>>29742623
Swords make the best life counselors.
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>>29742688
>Break Monique's wheelchair
>turns out his is a completely unknown artifact that shoots lasers and has a rocket strapped to it
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>>29742623

<Well at least he's going there with them after all,> Monique says. <I have you to thank for that.>
<Maybe you should listen to me more often,> Setsuranka replies. <You might be headed there yourself if not for how you behaved during that duel. And I know how much you like Eastern women...>
<Please don't act as if I'm some cad. I treat all women with respect and grace.>
<...and you treat other -men- like garbage when you dislike them. You really should apologize to that boy the next time you see him.>
<What, so he can explode at me the same way I did to him?>

Monique continues talking with his sword about what exactly went on while he was unconscious for about an hour... but then his concentration is broken by the sound of the door flying open.

"Hm?" Monique mumbles as he turns his head towards the door. "Matthias, are you finally back-"

No.

That's not Matthias.

As Monique stares at the blonde-haired man who has just entered his room in the arena's infirmiry, a feeling of abject terror sweeps over him.

>[6/8]
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>>29742688
>Implying monique wouldn't freeze the floor to slide faster
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>>29742688
>the mc from the swq rolls in on the Court Martial
>threeway race on wheelchairs with the Hell Cow as the ref
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>>29742623

Hmmm...what will you do, Monique. How will you react to that. Will you find your own sense of honor, no longer clouded by maddening butt hurt the likes of which even this board has never seen...or will you maintain your course and behavior unchanged.

What will you do Monique. What will you do.

...or is Lucianna just going to come into your room and lay down horrifying threats?
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RIP
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>>29742702
Huehuehuehuehuehue
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>>29742706
Gregory cometh
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>>29742706
>Gregory
Aw fuck
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>>29742706
>holding a portable nuke
>still horrified of gregory
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>>29742706
Monique, you'll need a new pair of pants and underwear... brown doesn't fit you.
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>>29742706
No
I don't want this
Make it stop

Monique is an idiot, but he doesn't deserve this
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>>29742706
I have a distinct feeling Gregory is about to exacerbate the situation and drive Monique from nearly sane and cordial with Reinhold to back to his paranoid points.
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>>29742706
We gather here today to mourn the loss of our friend...
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>>29742706
prepare your anus
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>>29742746
A sealed king isn't enough to beat someone like him, my friend. Some people are just too strong, even for that.
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>>29742706
Come on dad threats...
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>>29742756
oh yes he does
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>>29742706
I really want to defend Monique just to see what happens.
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>>29742706
>blonde man angry about a Sealed King
I know it's probably Gregory, but a man can dream.
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soon
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>>29742706
>Red vs Blue

Finally the confrontation.
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>>29742787

Could be King Aquaman.

I'm curious to his own take on the duel.
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>>29742706
Know what'd be the best? If Gregory simply tells Monique exactly why Rein kept smashing his swords - that it was as a result of Volker's flawed technique, thus revealing that Monique's vendetta was unjust all along, making him an even bigger douche.
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Still lack a gif for how I feel about this kind of thing, though I am getting closer.
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>>29742746
Look at it logically. We beat his ass so bad he would've died with a plain old sword.
Portable nuke or not, a sword's only as good as the man wielding it.
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>>29742805
I was talking about Adrien.

After all, we don't know which sealed king the two of them were after.
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>>29742805

Aquaman is only ever angry if you make a "talk to fishes" joke.

He's a zen nigga.
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>>29742755
Someone needs to start shopping Guts with blond hair (grey scale).
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"S... Sir Gregory?" Monique says. "I- I hadn't expected a visit from you..."
"No, I'm sure that you didn't," Sir Gregory says as he approaches the bed.

Monique tries to think of what he would have possibly done to deserve a visit from one of the heroes of his home country. And then this line of query is quickly answered by Sir Gregory's hand racing towards Monique's throat.

"Wh- what did I-" Monique chokes out as he reaches for Setsuranka. Maybe her ice can hold him in place?

But just as the air in front of Monique begins to crystallize, a massive amount of Script blinks in and out of existence.

"Heat Up," Sir Gregory growls as he picks Monique up by the throat. A wave of heat melts the ice as he drags the injured swordsman out of his bed and out of the range from which he's able to use Setsuranka's abilities.

He then throws Monique into the corner of the room closest to the door and draws his sword...

>[7/8]
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>>29742812
he was also heavily limited in the magic he could pull out of it to be fair
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>>29742807
but that means Gregory is calm
Gregory is not a calm person
If Gregory ever acts calm, everyone around him is so irrevocably fucked the land within a hundred miles of the encounter will bleed and scream in pain for years
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>>29742832
Jesus christ, Gregory
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>>29742832
Oh shit he lost it, gg no re.
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>>29742832
>BadLifeDecisions.jpg
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>>29742832
gregory no

murder is bad
murder is never the answer
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>>29742832
oh god

rip in piece monique

you were a piece of shit till the end
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>>29742832
GREGORY NOOOOOOOO
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>>29742832
C'mon, Gregory, hammer home the truth about Volker's technique being flawed! That's the true way to get back at Monique, make him despise his own shitbaggery!
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>>29742832
now Monique, before you die, look at your life. Look at your choices. You could have stopped this
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>>29742832
greg pls
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>>29742832
This just in, Gregory is just as much of a faggot as Monique - a grown man beating a child.
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>>29742832

Whelp.

Nice knowing him.

Guess we need a new rival.
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>>29742841

Gregory has three emotional states: he constantly switches between Banner-angry, Hulk-angry, and Gregory-angry.
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>>29742832
Greg no what are you doing plz stop.

I hate Monique too but think about the Matthias!
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>>29742836
No he wasn't, he was limited to not invoking script, which his sealed king allowed him to not do while casting spells normally.

Not using support and defensive spells isn't much of a limit when you have free reign to attack and your opponent is incapable of countering said attacks.
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>>29742841
He can tell him it amidst a slew of insults and beating the shit out of him.
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>>29742865
Gregory isn't going to murder him
He's either going to take his sword hand or his thumb, and make sure magic can't fix them
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>>29742832
No, Gregory! not like this!
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>>29742832

No, Gregory, don't do it. He has an obvious redemption arc in the works.

Also, with a war over slavery looming, having a Sealed King on the battle field would just be goo-

...yeah, he did insult your wife and act like a villain and almost killed one of your daughter's friends...

...man, bad end.
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>>29742892
I chuckled

>carnage einsals
capcha knows it's coming
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>>29742882
it's technically equal
after all Monique has a Sealed King, which marks him as a legendary swordsman
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>>29742746
Monique and Setsuranka combined don't stand a chance against Gregory or either of the two kings for that matter.

I think a lot of people are either over estimating the power of the sealed kings or under estimating just how crazy bad ass some of the people around Reinhold are.
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>>29742832
Good bye friend. Rip.
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>>29742924
>technically
Thanks for proving my point
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>>29742832
Damnit Nico! Why couldn't you just let it happen?
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Empty threat incoming.
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>[8/8]

"I want you to know that I have no interest in your fancy sword," Sir Gregory growls. "And I also have no interest in -you-."
"Th- then why-" Monique wheezes as he scrambles to press himself as close to the corner and as far away from Sir Gregory's sword as he possibly can.

Dear God, he's going to be murdered.

"It was all that Thierri and Celestino could do to keep me from killing you during that duel, you piece of shit," Sir Gregory says. "But I still REALLY want to, you see... and they're not around to stop me."
"You wouldn't-"
"You can consider this a warning," he says as he sheaths his sword. "Make my daughter cry again, harass her friends again, talk shit about my wife again... if you even BREATHE in a way that I don't like, I am going to end your life."

"I will kill you and I will do it in front of as many people as I can and nobody is going to be able to stop me. Not Thierri, not Celestino, not your sword, nobody. Do you understand?" Sir Gregory says, glaring at the horrified Monique.
"Y- yes sir..." Monique chokes out.
"As long as you know."

Sir Gregory then exits the room, leaving Monique alone with his sword... and also very grateful that he's still breathing.
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>>29742905
Guy called his wife a whore and his daughter worthless. I'm surprised he lasted past thread 10
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>>29742836
He was heavily limited in the magic that he himself could pull out.
The only limits on his sword was nothing that wasn't considered an attack.
So for defensive purposes, yeah he didn't get to use it to it's full extent, but otherwise, meh.
I'm thinking you need to be bonded with the sword for a while before you can pull out its full potential.
And that translates into Gregory grinding him into mush.
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>>29742941
>Empty
he held himself back fighting the lindwurm since he thought he might accidentally destroy a city even if he hit his target, no threat from this guy is empty
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>>29742947
point made good sir
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Dayum
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>>29742947
I love dad threats so much.
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Oh thank fuck.
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>>29742963
Did you really think he was going to kill Monique? Or even wound him?
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>>29742947
Note to self: Reinhold don't fuck with Gregory
Note 2: Jesus fuck don't fuck with Nicolette
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>>29742947
I love Gregory.
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>>29742995
I was really hoping Monique was going to have to learn how to be a southpaw
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>>29742947

Gregory is going to go Iron Sheik.

BACK HIS BACK
MAKE HIM HUMBLE
AND THEN FUCK HIM IN THE ASS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRFYfBBpKXI
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>>29742999
I think you need to remove the word "with" from Note 2.
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>>29742947
Isn't making threats like that one of the biggest death flags around?
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>>29742995
Everyone apparently loves to delude themselves into thinking that Gregory would kill him or anyone who pisses him off, but that's completely ridiculous.
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>>29743022
But Gregory has already stated that he'd be more than fine with us fucking Nicolette.
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>>29742947
and now we have an idea why he is called the Red Mist
thanks for the interlude Archelon
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>>29742982
I hope to God that Gregory going shotgun dad on us is included in the VN, either as a legitimate bad end or as a funny extra.
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>>29743022
Actually, Gregory seems to approve of Reinhold doing that, just no ever leaving her if he does.
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Jesus christ.

*BREAK
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>>29743031
Greg has the sheer balls and power to laugh off death flags.
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>>29742995
it doesn't change the fact that the threat wasn't empty. an empty threat is when they either can't or have no intention of backing it up. greg can very easily back his talk up
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>>29743031
Greg and Death have an understanding
Death doesn't come for Gregory and Gregory doesn't take over the afterlife
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>>29743049
>>29743069

I don't know. I have a bad feeling about it. In a narrative sense, it now makes Monique the underdog. If there's another confrontation, even if Monique doesn't survive it, odds are that Gregory won't come back either.
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>>29743069
Implying that Gregory could even hope to take the title of Death away from the guy who killed and took over the position from the last guy.
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>>29743089
If Monique of all people beats Gregory, the shitposting from yesterday will probably look like a warm summer breeze
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>>29743043
Legit right now, if Nico wasn't also in love with meido I'd say we go for her.

Her family is cool as fuck
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>>29743126
yes her family is cool and she'd be a good match for rein, but as you said unless the melon turns her down we don't make a move
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>>29743114
I wouldn't really consider it a powerlevels thing. It's more of a narrative trope thing. Gregory just said he'd put everything into killing Monique. That almost invariably means that he'll have an overwhelming victory, but die anyway because of his emotional state causing an err in judgement or perception.
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>>29743126
Nico has always been best girl because of her family.
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>>29743060
He has the intent that the writer gives him. Anon went a bit crazy expecting some wild confrontation instead of the stereotypical "make a threat and leave" scenario.
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>>29743089
In 20 years after Monique has mastered all of his swords power and Gregory is a grandfather. Then it will be a fare fight.
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>>29742947
i'm honestly surprised that monique got away without a MASSIVE burn
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>>29743126
Seconding this. However, I'm not above finding the meido a nice noble guy so Nico feels freer to pursue us.
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>>29743165
I'm *fairly* certain that most posts about rip and minique dying were hyperbole.
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>>29743184
fair*
greg is a mage, he won't be getting old any time soon
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>>29743159

Right. I mean how many times does someone say that kind of thing, then manage to actually pull it off unless they're the end boss?
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>>29743184
Grandpa's only get more powerful with age.
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>>29743194
>sabotaging a bro's chances at romance. ever
bad form anon. bad form
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>>29743215
I can probably count them on one hand.
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>>29743126
did nico specifically say she liked meido more than rein?

nico is best girl
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>>29743194
Nicolette is a nice noble
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>>29743089
Funny thing about narratives is how they sometimes get subverted. Monique's the underdawg so he has to win, right? Actually Greg just repaints the arena with his insides. Sometimes Goliath curbstomps 'lil David.
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>>29743236
Yes.
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>>29743221
>Magic Grandpa's only get more powerful with age.
FTFY
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>>29743194
when your best friend says they're actively pursuing someone, you don't ship that person with someone else just so you can go for the best friend, it's a dick move
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>>29743236
yes.
meio is her number one, and we're her number two
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>>29743236
Yeah, she did. Meido was the original crush, but she started developing feelings for Rein as well
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>>29743236
Arch said Rein can't have a Harem.

No-one said Nico can't have one.
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>>29743236
Yes she did.
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>>29743236

Yes.

Rein is number 2.

Best friend number 2, compared to slyvie
Love interest number 2, compared to meido.
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>>29743241
I don't feel confident in that happening.
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>>29743236
yes she did, actually
we're a bit of a crush
Melanie she's been in love with for several years
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>>29743239
And she could be our nice noble.

Or are you just afraid of having Gregory as a father-in-law?
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>>29743271
unrequited love she has yet to confess.

Hang in there Nico!

We believe in your feelings, Nico!

You can do it, Nico!

Have COURAGE!
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>>29743265
Liking Nico is suffering.
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>>29743159
Gregory just turned Monique into an even bigger example of Paris than he already was. Guess what Paris kills Achilles.
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>>29743299
HAVE COURAGE NICOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>29743089
Either way, Reinhold has been comletely written out of the narrative. Now its Greg vs Monique, not Reinhold vs Monique.

Reinhold is too useless to even match Monique now, which kinda pisses me off.
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>>29743288
no, I'd love Gregory as a father in law
I just think it's fucked up to even contemplate trying to sabotage a friend's chances with the person they like just so that we can try and get with them
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"I guess I'll give her some time to cool off first, then..." you sigh. Dealing with Marianne when she's pissed is never fun, and leaving her alone for a while is probably for the best.

You hope.

"Is Nicolette still out there?" you ask.
"Yeah, want me to get her?" Sylvie asks back.
"If it's not too much trouble."

With a nod, Sylvie scurries out of the room for a few minutes before coming back with Nicolette, Melanie and Rana in tow. The latter two seem to be fine, but Nicolette... her eyes are completely bloodshot and she looks absolutely miserable.

"Reinhold... you're actually okay?" Nicolette asks with a raspy voice. "Can you stand? Are your hands working right, was there any nerve damage? Did they have to regrow you an entirely new pair?"

>[1/?]
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>>29743325
>>29743299
now that we know how morning meido is, i think things will go fine for these two
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>>29743317
Except paris never had a fucking sealed king

And he got his ass kicked by Menelaus
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>>29743233

Not to mention who Gregory is.

He's our superior in rank and power, a father figure to a main character, and a mentor figure besides. Now he's threatening our rival right before we go back to training and getting our own bullshit magical sword. All of this happening while a bunch of mystery people are plotting in the background.

I'd be surprised if he even makes it home alive.
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>>29743260
fucking brilliant, we shal waifu her, and she shall waifu everyone else
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Rolled 16

>>29743348

Rolling to dodge friendship punch.
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>>29743348
"I'm cool."
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>>29743348
"It was an ice fight until he pulled that sword out of snowhere."
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>>29743316

Yuyushiki season 2 when?
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>>29743348
"chill out Nico, everything's cool in here"
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>>29743348
She needs a hug.
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>>29743348
>>29743380
>>29743388
All of this ^
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>>29743348
> Did they have to regrow you an entirely new pair?"
>reinhold barely had a pair to begin with
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>>29743236
I just looked back at the post and she only says we were #2 crush and that she 'has feelings' for meido. Doesn't say anywhere that she's desperately in love with meido, just that she's had a crush.

I'm going to interpret that #2 as meaning second crush and not that she likes us less than meido
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>>29743380
>>29743373
C'mon man, at least come up with new ones
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>>29743348
please no puns guys
This is serious
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Rolled 7

>>29743348
>>29743371

Joining this anon.
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>>29743385
I need that like Rein needs to give Nico an ice pun - which is quite a bit.
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>>29743363
No, but Paris was an archer. Archery was seen as a dishonorable method of dueling, and Paris defeated several heroes through his dishonorable combat methods. Seem familiar?
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>>29743416
He still doesnt, since Greg just took his pair away.
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>>29743419
They're bad on purpose
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>>29743348
"I'm fine, just a little weak and sore at the moment. Are you ok?"
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>>29743421
But anon

We have to break the ice. What an Cold saying.
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now isn't the time for fucking ice puns

everyone has been crying their fucking eyes out in worry and you want to just crack wise? at least assure her that we're ok before the shitty jokes start
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>>29743348
"New pair of what?"
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>>29743380
>>29743388
>>29743348
Seconded. Let all know of our punominal jokes
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>>29743373
This.
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>>29743348
No Puns just Hugs.
>>29743405
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>>29743434
And Paris was only defeated by another archer, beating him at his own game.
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Anyone else notice Reinhold is a bit less..."talk and think only when prompted by anonymous"? It's a welcome change of pace. It's almost like he isn't a harem MC that completely spaces out unless something is said directly to him.
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>>29743405
hugs all around
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We're never going to be able to talk to Monique now.

Every thing Reinhold says to him will be interpreted as an attempt to get him to fuck up and piss off Gregory more.
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>>29743447
Chill the fuck out. People have been coming into our room and leaving happier for it so if she was outside she obviously knows we're fine and is going through the motions of asking if we're cool to be nice.
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>>29743373
>>29743380
She needs a laugh
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>>29743380
No. I'm fine fine with ice pins, but these just aren't very good.
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>>29743373
this
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>>29743503
That's the point
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>>29743503
how about "My hands are fine, they managed to get them on ice."?
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please just tell her we're alright first

please
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>>29743523
Making 'witty' and unfunny comments for the nth time can be grating
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>>29743348

Our best smile and "I'm cool"
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>>29743523
We've already done it to death.

Just let it rest for awhile.
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Please for the love of god no more puns
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>>29743418
>"Yeah, him, Arnaud and Celestino were beat bros back in the day," Nicolette replies. "Kind of how the two of us are the best of friends!"
>"I think Sylvie would be jealous if she heard you say that," you say teasingly.
>"Meh, she knows that she's my number one best friend. And you're my number two in two areas, thus making you a double number two!" she laughs.

Given that the context for this was saying that she's still closer friends with Sylvie even though she's good friends with us, taking the "double number two" line the same way means she still likes Melanie more than she likes us at the moment.
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>>29743405
yeah, this
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More puns!
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>>29743551
I'm cool, but the smile needs to be a struggle to not break into a shit eating grin because we know and she knows that she can't punch us for it right now.
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>>29743490
Criticism that someone gave me last night.
I'm glad that you like the results.
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"maybe if we repeat the joke at every possible opportunity it'll be funny every time"
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Nico doesn't need a pun.

But you know who does.

Let's wait for the opportunity.
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It isn't even suggestion time you kids.
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>>29743373
>>29743380
These
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>1/3 No prompt, chill out guys. Accidental pun but I'm not changing it
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>>29743388
>>29743380
>>29743373
No. It's getting old.
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>>29743490
I thought it had gotten worse, to be honest.
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>>29743611
You mean getting icly cold.
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>>29743611
>old
>not cold
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>>29743348
>[2/2]

Wow, she's even more worried than Sylvie was...

"I'm still pretty sore and I feel weak from all the blood I lost, but I'm fine otherwise," you reply.
"Thank God..." Nicolette says under her breath before pulling you right off of the bed and into a TIGHT hug... it honestly hurts a lot.

"Never do that again!!" Nicolette sobs. "My Grampa got sick all of a sudden and died and I never want to feel like that again, god damn it! Especially not over a dickwaving contest with some idiot!"

>how do you react?
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>>29743611
I don't know, I think they're still pretty cool.
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>>29743348
For all that is good & holy don't try to be punny. She doesn't need it & it's just going make things difficult.

Give her a reassuring smile, tell her we're fine aside from some soreness, and maybe give her a hug if she doesn't punch us the fuck out.
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>>29743632
"... Maybe... Maybe I'll set down my blade."

After all, we're terrible at magic, and swordsmen are nothing when compared to magic.
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need next post so I can go to bed...will catch rest in morning. Trapped in a glass cage of emotion between this thread and the possible Conspiracy between HQR, HQR, & MGNQ
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>>29743632
>dickwaving
What the fuck did you just say to be you little bitch?
Seriously though, it wasn't a contest - it was a dream of ours to fight a Sealed King
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>>29743632
if you don't want me to die then please stop crushing my ribs
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>>29743632
Sorry no can do, in case you've forgotten I happen to be a bodyguard, my job is literally to die in Mariannes place.

How many people who watched that yesterday have any doubt that I will fight to the bitter end to protect her?

Besides, that was probably the only chance I'll ever have to fight against a sealed king, I wouldn't be me if I didn't make the most of it.
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>>29743632

"You have to admit that was some pretty intense waving."
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>>29743641
A guy with a sweet goatee?

>Captcha: kheeeuro services
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>>29743632
"Don't worry Nicolette. I've got no intention of dying for a good long while-plus, I'm pretty sure you guys would drag my ass back from the dead somehow if I did"
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>>29743679
This
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>>29743632
>I can't make any promises, but I"ll try not to.
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>>29743632
"I'm sorry."
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>>29743632
"Admittedly, it kind of was, but I really wanted to fight that Sealed King."
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>>29743632
Tell her we don't regret it and won't apologize for fighting.
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>>29743632
hnnnghhh

how can any of you fuckers not like nico the most?
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>>29743632
My instinct says return hug, as is friend custom, pat her on the back, and then tell her that we do not intend to do that again. We fought a sealed king, and that is good enough.
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>>29743692
He is merely there to demonstrate the scale.
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>>29743679
This.
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>tfw feel sad when leaving the Monique PoV

Back to waifus... I guess.
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>>29743632
"I was focused on the fight, I didn't think about how anyone was reacting...I'll admit I feel a little guilty for putting everyone through the wringer with worry. Sorry Nico,"
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>>29743632
Pat her on the back.

"It was a chance to fight against someone using a Sealed King. How many people get that opportunity? I didn't mean to worry everyone, but I still had to give it my best."
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>>29743704
>>29743687
>>29743694

These seem nice.
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>>29743632

"Right. Sorry."

*hug*

"I also realized that I'm kinda out of my depth here."
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>>29743717
Because they're sc/u/m, probably.
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>>29743679
+1 Also add an apology for worrying people and explain that it was a one in a life time opportunity to fight a sealed king but admittedly it got out of hand.
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>>29743632
I like this as well.
>>29743679
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>>29743679
Fourth'd.

Also
>>29743706
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>>29743738
seconding these three
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>>29743679
Going with this.
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>>29743632
this
>>29743679
but tell her you're sorry about her grandfather first
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>>29743632
"Being a bodyguard for royalty means putting my life before Marianne's, getting hurt is nothing. This was probably the only time I will ever get to fight a Sealed King, denying the fight or regretting it afterwards isn't something I'd do."
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>>29743632
Return the hug, tell her we're sorry for worrying her and we might've taken it too far, but you were kind of overwhelmed- first by the chance to fight a sealed king, then by the loss of your sword.
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>>29743703
This is the least dickish and retarded (BUT I FOUGHT A SEALED KING). It's pretty much implicitly saying "Man must fight.", but saying we won't duel just because we were challenged.

>>29743704
>Sorry
Please no. This isn't worth a sorry over. Reinhold shouldnt apologize over every damn thing. It's almost hollow by now.
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>>29743679
This one works.
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>>29743738
I'll third this set
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>>29743724
Cool, what else does he do? Guess he could carry our other swords and stuff.
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>>29743632
Return hug + >>29743679 & we'll try to be more careful in the future.
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>>29743632
Apologise, tell her that we're going to have to risk our life at some point, it's our job.

and if she doesn't like it she should guard mari with us.

qt bodyguard couple.
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>>29743632
Something like these.
>>29743731
>"I was focused on the fight, I didn't think about how anyone was reacting...I'll admit I feel a little guilty for putting everyone through the wringer with worry."
>>29743734
>I didn't mean to worry everyone, but I still had to give it my best."


But definitely this after we've done our serious talk.
>>29743679
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>>29743703
>>29743679
These two
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>>29743632
"B-but muh fightan with a sealed king!!!!"
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>>29743679
this is also acceptable, though with the addendum if she starts to let go completely. "I didn't say you had to stop the hug, glad to know you care so much."
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>>29743756
This
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>>29743773
He also brings a very large saber/messer for us to use.
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>>29743632
For the love of fucking everything, do not back down and apologize, Reinhold does it so damn often it's annoying and meaningless by now.
>>29743756
Do this.
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>>29743632
>>29743776
This
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>>29743756
I like the idea, but the execution is very fedora-ey
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>>29743632
"Well... It was a Sealed King. I'm going to dream about getting one of those for myself, one day."
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>>29743704
No. Reinhold is his own man, an adult and he isn't talking to his wife, mother or whatever. He has no reason to apologize.
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>>29743776
this works
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>>29743763
>>29743820
>>29743756
These.
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>>29743776
sounds good
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>>29743819
>>29743796
>>29743687
These. No apologies, no whining, just a man who likes to fight with bits of metal.
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>>29743820
Friends don't let friends apologize to friends.

Only faggots with friends apologize to friends.
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>>29743776
This is good
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>>29743632
Do not apologize. Reinhold doesn't regret it - he already said as much before.
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>>29743632
>>29743776
Supporting this
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>writing
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>>29743803
>>29743820

Reinhold is a nice guy, he apologizes. We aren't groveling or anything so just saying a quick sorry is alright. And if you see that it has no meaning then that might be one of reinhold's problem.
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>>29743687
>>29743694

these

We don't apologize for fighting
We apologize for making them worry

BUT NOT FIGHTING
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>>29743871
>>29743865
Last time we said sorry it was based on their worrying and not that we regretted the match.

I thought we made this clear?
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>>29743883
This.
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>>29743820
Being generally apologetic has been a character trait since thread 1, why should it suddenly change now?
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>>29743871
>saying a quick sorry is alright
Not if you don't mean it faggot, Reinhold loved the fight and said so when talking to his grandmother.
>>29743756
>>29743819
>>29743820
>>29743865
These.
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>>29743871
No, this is just getting pretty pathetic and predictable.
>Reinhold, you said NO to me!?
>Sorry!

He isn't a nice guy. The way you guys want to play him makes him an obnoxious "Nice Guy".
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>>29743913
Being completely fucked over at the thing we're best at. By magic. Legally, according to the duelling laws. That sort of thing makes a man bitter.
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>>29743913
I don't remember him going "oh, sorry I made you feel bad when I responded to your barb by saying I'm an orphan".
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>>29743913
we're apologetic for other things, mainly social.

We were raised in a brothel, we're not a bard level charismatic person

and so we apologize on the social front

but this is about being in our element: A swordsman. Something we've struggled to be the best at.

There is no way he's going to apologize for fighting a sealed king... and even if he did he wouldn't truly mean it.
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It's fine to apologize for making them worry. I mean christ, Nicollette is a blubbering mess. Nico f all people, with her tough girl exterior and all. I can only imagine the kind of stress we put everyone there through, saying nothing of Agnes and Citrine.

Enjoy the fight, love the fact that you got to fight a sealed king, but god damn. Apologize at least for shaving about 20 years off of everyone who cares about us's life,
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>>29743932
You mean like he's been since he started? The other characters have been describing us as 'so nice it makes me mad' for a long time.
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>>29743932
The way we've BEEN playing him as is an incessantly nice guy.
It's a part of the character.

Maybe it's a flaw, but Rein isn't your self insert.
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>>29743925
>>29743932

It more of this
>>29743883

Than anything else.
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>>29743632
>>29743694
>>29743706
>>29743679
voting a combinetion of those
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>>29743913
Do you realize how many people have bitched about Reinhold being the least fun and most bland/uninteresting character? That's because of people who want to play him as a bland nice guy. Playing as a Monique is a blast because he isn't some boring mary sue.
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>>29743977
>>29743980
see
>>29743960
>>29743967
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bitches don't like a guy with no spine
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>>29743980
>You're not allowed character development ever!
Sure, we'll stay a perfectly static character. Let me get the record so we can break it so it just says 'i'm sorry' over and over.
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>>29743632
Nom her ear.
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>>29743980
You're right. He's not my self-insert. He's a generic nice harem guy anyone can self-insert since he's always nice, never controversial, and most importantly, generic as fuck.
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>>29744010
This. Playing the typical beta harem lead is boring as shit. Monique is an asshole, yeah, but he's still entertaining
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>>29744025
Right in front of Sylvie.

Delicious tears.

And then sweet release from our mortal coil by Nico's gut punch.
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>>29744010
>Monique
>Not a boring ass Mary Sue
his 'big comeuppance' seems to be that he's scared of a scary guy, which should have happened back when he insulted Gregory's family, and not being able to go to Japan. Instead he has to go back to his cushy job and noble title, with a boller artifact
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>>29744050
Yeah, you're completely missing the point since I've only been talking about personality.
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No one is saying apologize for fighting. All we would be apologizing for is worrying our friends.

Please remember that people are baiting, do not respond to shitposts.
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>>29744010
Trying to make him some alpha is more mary sue than anything.
He's pretty servile, and while it's not the coolest thing, it's been a part of him.

>>29744020
Character development is by catalyst, and not your own volition fuckwit
This duel didn't change anything about him other than we ironed out how easily he throws himself into an early grave
>>29744041
It's your job to develop the traits anon.
Not everybody, MC included, has to have some incredibly complex character anyways.
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>>29744020
Just saying sorry doesn't stop us from developing our character. It might even help us because then we have a flaw and we'll try to fix that flaw.

>>29744010
Yes he is but this is just saying sorry here.

this basically is the reason though
>>29743973
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>>29744050
and he also has the knowledge that if he ever fucks up in any way, shape, form, or fashion, or if Gregory decides to say 'fuck it', that he (Monique) will die a horrible, painful, humiliating death.
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>>29744050
>Mary Sue
He isn't the smartest of guys - blocking a broadsword with his grandfather's rapier, making himself look like an asshole villain while dueling and only winning when arch handed him a god sword. That's not what a Mary Sue is you retard
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>>29744050
>Hey look, it's the guy who couldn't beat a manwhore with an oversized kitchen knife while carrying a sealed king in his hand.
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>>29744049
It's the perfect ending.
But mostly I'd just love it for Nico's reaction.
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>>29744050
Monique is like M. Bison from the old Street Fighter movie. He is the only one with character and goddamn does he love his role.

Fuck, I wanna be M. Bison.
The M stands for Monique
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>>29744078
>This duel didn't change anything about him other than
Getting our heirloom sword broken.
Losing a duel, which we've worked hard as fuck to get good- not even the good, to get the BEST at.
And losing to goddamn magic. Magic that's legal due to bullshit.
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>>29744025
Seconding.
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>>29744092
only the crowd loved him, at least according to Karel
meaning word of mouth will be more like
>"Hey look, it's the weilder of the Sealed King! I hear he beat Princess Marianne's bodyguard, maybe they should give him the job"
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Stop shitposting
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>>29744078
>incredibly complex
>isn't willing to bend on his personal honor about swordfighting
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>>29744099
He's too faggoty for a last name like Bison. Maybe if he was built like Sir Vincent.
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>>29744117
We need to get a bigger sword. In fact, we should just only use very large swords from now on. The larger and heavier, the better. Get some tone on.
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>>29744078
I didn't know not apologizing meant we're suddenly trying to make him come off as some alpha male.

>>29744074
Right, anyone who disagrees is shitposting. There's no reason to apologize. We /chose/ to do this knowing the risk. Are we literally just going to backpedal and apologize every time we displease a waifu? Seriously.

>>29744087
Pretty sure broadswords are two-handed. Reinhold fights with a one-handed sword.
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>>29744136
Yes. That's the best idea. Let's get someone to ask if they can make our sword bigger and heavier when it gets reforged.
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>>29744117
>Getting our heirloom sword broken

I was one of the people arguing he should have been more emotionally attached.

Otherwise, the loss wasn't important. Reinhold is infatuated with replicating Volker's shit, he wants to perfect that. Dueling was something that came along with it, and is secondary.
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>>29744117
>Getting our heirloom sword broken.
Which is getting fixed like it was nothing
>Losing a duel
On a technicality
>losing to goddamn magic
Which is nothing new for Reinhold

The duel did nothing for or against us. In fact, all it did was give Monique more plot relevance in events that we have no control over.
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>>29744148
Broadswords are one handed.
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>>29744150
>>29744136
That's a terrible idea since it means adapting to an entirely new swordfighting style.
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>>29744150
This sounds sarcastic but I actually think this is a good idea. We'll advance our style into two-handed territory, crushing magical defenses under the sheer weight of our mighty blade.
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We were doing so well. Has /qtg/ 404'ed or what?
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>>29744165
It did prove that everything we trained for is nothing and that we should exclusively focus on magic, since that will always be a trump card
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>>29744165
Doesn't mean we can't get pissed off. Even if losing to magic- on a technicality- nothing new, it's still the straw that broke the camel's back.

>>29744175
Yeah, but we still know how to fight. If we learn a new swordfighting style for heavier, two-handed blades, then we'll be able to use any sword we get our hands on. That would definitely be useful.

>>29744177
It wasn't actually sarcastic, haha.
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>>29744179
I think waiting for Arch does this, and besides, it's not even bad.

It's not like you can expect people to not discuss things.
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>>29744177
I feel like most magical defenses don't work like that. I mean, our low-tier block is at the strength of a strong wooden door
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>>29744150
This is an awful idea.
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>>29744148
>broadswords
One handed
>>29744179
pls no discussion everyone talking is shitposting :(
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>>29744171
There are many examples of hand-and-a-half and two-handed broadswords.
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>>29744179
Metaposting about shitposting is still shitposting. Watch people blame one side. Hell, this hasn't even been that vitriolic.
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>>29744165
>Which is getting fixed like it was nothing

The sword isnt going to be the same, it'll be weaker if reforged. Now completely different thanks to nik and having to wait till we get back home isn't nothing.
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Look people- you have played a character a certain way for over a hundred threads.

If I was in charge I'd tell you that unless you give a justified reason for why this character wouldn't apologize for upsetting his friends, when he's done so before, I'd ignore the lot of you who want him not to do it because you're sick of it and be done with it.

You've just gotten over a giant shitstorm. Let's not start one over the main character being a nice guy.
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>>29744179
I guess. Now that players can't go over there and vent, they'll do it here.
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>>29744211
Get more tone, son.
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>>29744214
This is shitposting and baiting. Not "lets not apologize". I never met a faction of people in a quest who were so condescending and self-righteous like >>29744230
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>>29744185
Lies.
We still technically killed him, even with his magic sword.
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>>29744230
This isn't even a big deal.
We're arguing about two words of sentiment, that in the long run, probably will not be remembered.
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>>29744230
Why can't we develop our character? Why can't we start to change? We're adapting to being here, for one, which means that we shouldn't keep apologizing for everything.
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>>29744219
no, a broadsword is specifically a wide bladed one-handed sword
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>>29744255
He couldve killed us first if he wanted to.
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>>29744230
>nice guy
>used the orphan card and didn't apologize about making people sad with it
>told off Marianne when it was barely her fault
O-okay
>>29744252
>disagreeing is shitposting
Just drown in your shit and die
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>>29744259
I agree, but I think it needs a catalyst.

I have a feeling like the more we hang around Marianne, the more when can actually have a reason to break our bad habits and adopt new ones.
She's one of our friends who critique us.
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"If you don't want me to die then please stop crushing my ribs," you manage to choke out from within Nicolette's bear hug.
"S- sorry..." Nicolette says as she lets you go and slowly backs away.
"I'll try to be more careful in the future," you say with a weak laugh.

Thanks to that, you're even more sore now than you were before... but you're not about to tell her that since it would make her feel worse.

"I'll try to be more careful in the future," you say.
"You fucking better," Nicolette mumbles as Melanie hands her a handkerchief to dry her eyes with. "I'm gonna beat your ass if you do that macho bullshit again..."
"She's not really angry with you, Mr. Reinhold," Melanie says as she pats Nicolette on the back. "She's just upset because of how injured you were.
"...damn straight I'm upset..." she says, sniffling.

>[1/?]
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>>29744269
No, a broadsword is specifically a wide-bladed sword, typically with a basket hilt if done in the european style. Hand-and-a-half variants certainly exist, and many eastern broadswords were certainly two-handed.
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>>29744259
Tell me what brought about this change though. I actually want to know.
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>>29744230
I'd just ignore the people who want to keep fighting over us saying 'sorry' because they started it. Reinhold is a bland as fuck character. There is nothing entertaining about carefully calculating the best answer, apologizing every time the QM asks for a response whenever a waifu is upset and being 'annoyingly nice'. Harem MCs are like that because the viewers don't care about the guy and can just self-insert into someone with so little personality.
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>>29744270
He was trying to beat us the whole time and we still did pretty damn good.
You people have taken this defeat way too seriously.
It's not like we've reached the limits of swordery.
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>>29744259
I'm all for character development and all that, but I think that not apologizing for worrying our friends seems a bit too rash at the moment. Reinhold cares for his friends and wouldn't want to worry them, and I doubt a loss in a duel would change that.
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>>29744300
>Melanie taking care of Nicolette
>Melanie understanding how Nicolette feels
she knows and reciprocates, doesn't she?
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>>29744314
>"You worried me!"
>"Sorry."
>"Oh well, it's okay."
>"Sorry."
>"... Are you okay?"
>"Sorry."
>"Stop saying sorry!
>"I'm sorry."
>"Aaaaaugh."
>"S-sorry."
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>>29744315
He was still holding back his full power to honor the duel.
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>>29744296
>Told marianne off when it was barely her fault

To be fair, that was a highly controversial vote that we all were mad at because it was out of character.
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>>29744299
Marianne and other people repeatedly ribbing us for being too nice is one. So is everything we've done the past few months, being in a new environment and not just soldiering.
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>>29744300
>"I'll try to be more careful in the future," you say with a weak laugh.
>"I'll try to be more careful in the future," you say.

dat short-term memory dough

we may need to get our brain checked
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>>29744305
>>29744269
Half-basket broadswords were frequently of bastard length or two-handed. The open basket was specifically to allow the addition of a second hand on the grip.
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>>29744300
>I'll try and be more careful in the future
Great job being downgraded to squid you spineless retard. Being a bodyguard means we must be a shield for the princess and die for her if necessary. And you would totally fight a Sealed King again if you could, stop lying about it.
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>>29744345

By god, I hope so.
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>>29744314
Regularly, i'd agree with you.

But in this case, Rein has had manners beaten into him his whole life.
I think it's a good flaw to have.

I'm not going to lie, I like that Rein's kind of weak character wise right now.
It gives us all the room to develop with the plot.
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>>29744352
Once more, defensive and supportive magic, while helpful aren't the end all and be all of a fight.
Otherwise he was outright trying to fuck our shit up until our sword broke.
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>>29744370
Huh? This isn't an apology. Are you baiting?

I was against an apology but this is fine. It's not admitting any guilt. At most it's "I"ll just not blindly accept a challenge for anyone who wants to duel me."

Hell "I"ll try to be more careful" can mean being more careful when we duel.
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>>29744370
fighting a Sealed King again =/= not trying to be careful and get injured less. We were very offense oriented in that duel, we know now to be wary of bullshit tricks even in honorable settings, and that we need to analyze our opponent better
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>>29744335
It's also not character development, its derailment. Character development isnt something you just do just because. And definitely not pulling a total 180 to the the character attitude and personality up to that point.
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>>29744397
>B-b-but changing how Reinhold acts after this long is bad a bloo bloo bloo
Good luck friend
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I like how this pie keeps exploding in my face.
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>>29744397
People are trying to develop with plot right now though. People are trying to make arguments. You're free to disagree with it being plot relevant, but anyone can disagree every time someone think it's worth taking Reinhold down a different avenue, characterization wise after something happens. Or multiple things happening over a period of time.
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>>29744315
This. I mean fuck, we're still not even using the our own Sword style correctly.
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>>29744136
We absolutely should do this. Brute force this motherfucker. Evolving our sword style to a two-handed stance could be an excellent subplot. What true swordsman is not skilled in using a variety of stances?
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>>29744406
I don't think I said it was an apology.
>>29744418
You're probably right.
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>>29744419
Not apologizing reflexively isn't derailing Reinhold. You are exaggerating this waay too much.
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>>29744420
Not what I said, but feel free to project.

I could care less about the sorry shit, but serious personality change requires serious action.

>>29744443
But it's not by plot, it's by the opinion of the playerbase right now.
As I said before, this duel showed other things about reinhold, but I don't know if it really was cause for any change in how he acts.
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>>29744370
We never said we wouldn't fight a sealed king again.
We only said that we will be more careful, meaning we'll try not to fight bitterly to the end.

Not saying we won't, but we will try not to.
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>>29744451
Actually, why stick with just getting bigger swords?
Why not get a collection of them. foot-long hilted swords. Two-handed broadswords. Two-bladed swords. Ones with a chain in the center.
We'll become a serious monster of exotic fighting styles. The best guardian to exist.
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>>29744335
we ARE apologizing for worrying.
We're just not apologizing for fighting the sealed king.

We acquiesced we were aggressive and we need to be more cautious already too.
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>>29744350
Now where have I heard that from before? Oh yeah!
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>>29744480
>Not what I said, but feel free to project.
I should have typed differently or changed the wording. I wasn't referring to you except with the good luck
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>>29744345
Oh I hope so. We're going to have to point this out to Nicolette, or just ask Melanie about how she feels about her as she's waking up
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>>29744492
So, you're saying, one of these days when we end up with godlike power, we should just do the whole "Everyone should just DIE" and tang everyone?

I'm up for it.
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>>29744480
>but I don't know if it really was cause for any change in how he acts.

This can be said every time someone thinks it's time to add any personality to Reinhold. Do you get the problem with that?

And no shit it's the opinion of the playerbase people think Reinhold could change based off X happening, or a combination of X,Y,Z happening over a period of time. Just like how it's another half of the playerbase who doesn't think so.
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>>29744507
Oh
Then allow me to say S-sorry
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>>29744397
I agree and I advocate continuing being somewhat apologetic and respectfull, those are not bad traits.
This duel is still a great oppurtunity for character growth. Now Reinhold may actually realise he's got people that cares for him and don't want to see him hurt.
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>>29744512
More like mind our own fucking business, at least until Nicolette comes out of the closet to her. That would be an incredibly dick move
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>>29744300
>"You fucking better," Nicolette mumbles as Melanie hands her a handkerchief to dry her eyes with.
>"She's not really angry with you, Mr. Reinhold," Melanie says as she pats Nicolette on the back.
the /u/ boat is on its way
glorious
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>>29744522
I see where you're coming from
Even if I disagree with the actual change in question
>>29744541
At the end of the day, we're a bodyguard.
It's in our duty to take the bullet, and even as cared for as we are, we are expendable in favor of somebody with actual royal importance.
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>>29744522
This isn't 'somewhat respectful' or 'somewhat apologetic'. This is 'apologizing literally whenever a waifu is upset at what we decided to do or say'.

>Now Reinhold may actually realise he's got people that cares for him and don't want to see him hurt.

Yeah, this isn't something that couldn't have been pre-established. Nor does this kind of 'growth' make him any more interesting or fun.

In the end it's up to arc to say how Reinhold is, and whether X justifies a change, keeping in mind how people feel OOC and how people try to rationalize their opinions.
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>>29744541
Reinhold lived the thug life.
He knows people like that don't exist.
There are only 4 kinds of people.
Pimps, hoes and homies and homoes
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>>29744541
>those are not bad traits
No they aren't, the apologies stop mattering and start getting annoying after a while though.
>and don't want to see him hurt
Sucks to have a harem around a soldier and bodyguard, doesn't it?
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>>29744583
Oops, meant to quote
>>29744541
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>>29744586
Nah.

It Pimps, Hoes, Homies and Bitches.
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>>29744589
Forgot to add the fact that it's a lot more than somewhat apologetic when we say sorry for fucking eveerything
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>>29744541
I agree with you. Apologizing when you put your friends in a bad situation isnt being weak, it's just not being an asshole. Neither is apologizing when you genuinely feel bad. But outside of those situations, just sayign fuck it can totally be a plan.
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>>29744300

"I'm glad that you're gonna be okay, though," Nicolette sighs. "The medics were saying that you'll be free to go once they do a final checkup, so Rana was suggesting that we all stuff our faces to celebrate afterwards."
"Not right away, of course," Rana says, winking. "I know you still gotta go see how the Princess is doing and all that."

"Yeah, I should probably go see how she's doing," you reply.
"Let's not keep you, though," Rana says, leaning on Nicolette. "And for what it's worth, I thought it was pretty hot how you kept on fighting like that even though you were beat to hell... draconic instinct is to run away when a battle seems lost. But you guys fight on to the bitter end... it's almost kind of romantic!" she says, winking at you.

"C'mon, don't encourage that shit..." Nicolette says as she shakes Rana off of her. "Anyways, we'll see you later I guess."
"Yes, I hope that you're back at one hundred percent soon!" Melanie says, smiling at you.

>[2/?]
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>>29744583
It's not just waifus though.

Reinhold was nice as fuck to that prissy noble that ex bodyguard kicked away, and even after ex bodyguard was extrapolated on, he didn't lose his shit like certain characters did.

The only instance where I can think we were canonically a dick was to that spy.
Maybe some of the actual enemies who were intent on kill, but that's justified.
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>>29744488
How about we keep it sensible and start with a bastard sword? Despite D&D telling you otherwise, a bastard sword (or traditional longsword) is perfectly usable with one handed fighting styles, but is balanced and crafted to also be compatible with a two handed fighting and styles.

I still think we should eventually up to something on the level of a zweihander
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>Dragon waifu flags
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>>29744625
Snakes in the grass

But damn Rana a best girl

We need to learn more about her
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>>29744621
>Apologizing when you put your friends in a bad situation isnt being weak

Except we didn't. This is advocating we apologize whenever we upset or worry a waifu. Which is ridiculous and makes us pretty much bound to their whims. Backpedaling every time we do or say something they don't like. That's not a fun character.
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>>29744625
>Rana becomes disappointed to learn she was not Reinholds first.png
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>>29744634
>ex bodyguard was extrapolated on, he didn't lose his shit like certain characters did.

I'm pretty sure that he was ready to murder him right then and there, but couldn't because killing a noble at a prince's birthday party is a bad fucking idea.
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>>29744625
Why is Rana so best?
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>>29744645
Actually, yeah. A bastard sword might be better. Ask if we can get the hilt lengthened and make the blade a bit more stout.
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>>29744625
yes, let us CONSUME
that poor spaghetti shop
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>>29744663
And that's why we develop out of it

With the help of Marianne's bitchslapping us into a real man
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>>29744645
Longsword or arming sword? DnD calls arming swords "longswords".
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>>29744667
I never understood why rein went into murderhobo mode over him in the first place when we first heard about him.
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>>29744663
>Which is ridiculous and makes us pretty much bound to their whims. Backpedaling every time we do or say something they don't like
This. One of the best ways I've seen it put
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>>29744665
"so i'm not the first girl to kiss you, lets see if i'm the first girl to give you tongue"
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>>29744667
>>29744703
Same here.

I actually wanted to talk to that guy more, not that I don't like Marianne, but I want to get his side of things.
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>>29744699
Longsword. The 1 1/2 grip sword with a lengthened, sturdy blade. Not the side sword/arming sword
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>>29744658
I think she's just like that with everyone.

She is pretty best though.
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I'm completely amazed that people think being nice is spineless, bad, bland, etc etc. Sometimes you have to fight very hard to stay nice. It's also a heroic, good trait. No wonder Reinhold's holding himself back as much as he does, considering everything that's happened to him, by the way.
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>>29744703
1. Reinhold gets really mad whenever someone is mean to a waifu.
2. Actual reason? He was molested/raped by Spinelle. That's a pretty good reason to (irrationally, even) hate anyone who even tries that.
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>>29744658
>>29744659
>>29744678
eh, Rana is mid-tier waifu tops. Too Manic Pixie for me
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Poor? By the time Aquaman, Gregory and the furious five finish eating at that place they'll become the most famous eatery in the city and have wait lists out the wazoo

Not to mention the inevitable showering with money thanks to each of them eating more than a normal person
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>>29744663
>>29744705
I thought that went hand and hand with the indecisiveness Reinhold has
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>>29744714
this. Freaking out only hearing one side is stupid
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>>29744645
And before some faggots bring it up, fighting with two hands on your sword is actually faster and more precise than fighting with one hand. If you're already not using a shield, you really should put both hands on your weapon for the added control and power.
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>>29744703
Projecting his deep-seated hatred for Spinelle onto someone who did something similar to one of his now good friends.

He's in no position to take the power back from the person who wronged him, so he took the opportunity to act that way when presented with the next closest thing.
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>>29744730
After all of the reasoning and explaining I and others have given, I just don't think you"ll understand. This isn't about being nice. Besides, it's subjective anyway.
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>>29744634
rein wasn't nice to ex bodyguard, he just held back since killing him would cause bad things for mari, despite how much he wanted to

>>29744703
in addition to ex attempting to rape on of rein's best friends, rein may himself have some sexual assault in his background, so he could have very easily projected his feelings about spinelle onto the guy
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>>29744731
Never thought of it that way I guess

When's the inevitable breakdown when Reinhold gets bad touched by some pushy girl?
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>>29744713
>So I'm not the first girl to have sex with you, let's see if I'm the first girl to stick a talon into your urethra.
Spinelle already did that too
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>>29744581
>>It's in our duty to take the bullet, and even as cared for as we are, we are expendable in favor of somebody with actual royal importance.

Youre all conveniently forgetting that the other side of that duty is that were not supposed to get ourselves into avoidable sitatuions where we can get crippled, and thus leave the princess unprotected. We're supposed to take the bullets when they cant be avoided, not jump on top of grenades then pull the pin. Add to that we're the princesses friend as well and we're actually hurting her more then helping her by getting fucked up in front of her like this.
The bodyguards who get injured a lot are the ones who dont get hired again. Because theyre bad at their job
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>>29744703
Ingrained instinct from all those years of stabbing people in back-alleys when they tried to mess with Citrine, and/or projected Spinelle resentment.
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>>29744679
Yep, a longsword/bastard sword is a fine weapon. Equally good in a crowded melee as it is in a duel.
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>>29744738
>Not to mention the inevitable showering with money thanks to each of them eating more than a normal person
it's an all you can eat thing, but they don't expect people to down 7 plates each

>>29744745
>Freaking out only hearing one side is stupid
stupid maybe, but it's a human reaction
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>>29744775
Well yeah, I agree

But I'm happy we ended the duel the way we did
It helped us grow, (learning that our death really would hurt everyone here majorly)
And it stayed true to character

I'm saying that in a life or death situation, it's still our highest duty
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>>29744775
Yeah, but we asked her if it was okay. Every member of royalty outright or implicitly accepted the duel happening.
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arch, depending on how much longer you want to run you may want to start a new thread
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>>29744801
>it's an all you can eat thing

Well yeah, but as I recall last time we were there we threw a bunch of extra money at them since we were an entire party of near-superhuman and actually superhuman eaters.
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Rolled 6

>>29744771
He had one earlier during the dance class!
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>>29744816
This. I hope /tg/'s further decisions will show character development in Reinhold.
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>>29744801
>stupid maybe, but it's a human reaction
Yeah, I guess - I didn't even consider Spinelle when I typed that. Though killing him and learning it might have been a misunderstanding like Reinhold tripping before would be bad
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>>29744824
Whoa, I didn't even notice that the thread was this far down.
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>>29744703
Thug life brah
Pimp's gotta do what a pimp's gotta do.
Gangta's gotta watch out for his hoes and homies, you know what I'm saying?
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>>29744801
I just feel bad because everybody said he's a scumbag, but he was nothing but true and straight with us.
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>>29744816
>It helped us grow, (learning that our death really would hurt everyone here majorly)

That's something an autistic person would have to learn at his age. Like really. I don't think Reinhold needed them to outright say "I was so worried because you almost DIED!" to think that. Please. That's just cliche and it's another nail in playing a generic, dull harem MC
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>>29744775
Everyone told us to do it. We just had some more of us in it once we started getting into it
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>>29744816
I think it might have just made us feel even more useless as a bodyguard though.

Because let's face it, Marianne's right to not think of us as a person, seeing as we were hired to be her pet.
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>>29744855
Reinhold is kind of autistic though.
Other than Citrine, he's had nobody until now.

That kind of fucked up perspective makes everything out of touch.
This reinforced the truth.
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Archelon you're the final arbiter on Reinhold. We can decide things but you interpret and decide if X is too stupid/OOC for Reinhold. It's necessarily with a fluctuating, divided (and awful) playerbase.

What's your thoughts on everything people have said? Please don't give a half-hearted wishy washy response.
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>>29744855
Nah, that's not autistic, Reinhold just probably values everything over himself and wouldn't think he'd be loved that much.
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>>29744851
>he was nothing but true and straight with us.
pretty sure most people saw him come off as practically gloating

>>29744855
to be fair there's caring about someone, and then there's REALLY caring about someone, and aside from citrine and volker, rein's only had the latter for about a month
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>>29744893
I'm curious towards this as well.

But can wait if we're nearing the end I guess.
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>>29744855
>you almost DIED
This would be incorrect anyways. We would have just lost consciousness (like what did happen) since Monique didn't want us dead.
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>>29744889
Reinhold isn't Shirou, though. Sorry if you take offense. Judging by the comments people made, I think some people are actually a bit serious about wanting an Emiya Shirou stand-in.
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I want to spend more time around King Theri, i mean he's fucking Aquaman.
I want to learn more about him.
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>>29744933
But he's terrible.
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>>29744909
>REALLY caring about someone
>crushes are considered this
Oh shit nigger wat r u doin
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>>29744933
Nah fuck that.
He's similar in some ways, but really all characters lead back to the same basic traits after awhile.

Reinhold doesn't care to the 9th degree in seeing everybody happy.
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>>29744816
>>29744821
>>29744871

Yeah, We agreed to a normal duel. and then When were in danger of getting seriously fucking maimed or killed, Reinhold should have been thinking that he really doesnt have a right to be doing that since he's pledged to the princess and the kings service. Guess which order is more important? My point being that a lot of people use the bodyguard thing as a flimsy and ultimately stupid and bad excuse to go around doing things that make no sense.
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>>29744964
i'm saying as a person, not a romantic interest. i'd be devastated if one of my best friends died, regardless of their gender or my chances of getting in their pants
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>>29744933
>Emiya Shirou
He was polite and apologetic on the surface (not fake though), but he was always snarky in his head and didn't always back down. Plus he could probably kick some ass if he was here
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>Tfw arch ded
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>>29744997
Hey, sometimes a nigga's gotta do what a nigga's gotta do.
You hear me playa?
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>>29744997
Sealed king dog

That is a once and a lifetime chance.
Especially if Monique starts to stay away because of Gregory.
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>>29744997
>killed
We weren't going to be. And honestly we weren't even that hurt for fighting a SK, even after being aggressive.
>>29745012
I should have mentioned that I do not want Reinhold to be the same
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>>29745014
Dude its been like 20 minutes.Wait at least an hour for that
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>>29745031
I couldn't word this better.
People make mistakes, have flaws. Reinhold is people. (most probably)
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>>29745068
Reinhold is actually Robothold
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>>29744893

I've tried to leave Reinhold's character up to you guys for the most part. The snide joke trading with Marianne, how you act towards certain characters, even the sketching hobby- that was you guys deciding things about the character because I thought it would be more fun that way. The "so nice I kind of want to hit him" is also part of this, as that's how you've played him up until the day before the duel.

And then there are things like the goofy side, which mostly happened because I worded a choice in a joking way once and you guys completely jumped on it (and I thought it was funny too). This also led into the ice puns during the fight with Monique since they were at least somewhat true to the character and the situation.

And then there are things that I put in there myself, like the way that he's rather murderous when it comes to things endangering the people who he cares about. Thanks to his shitty life, he hasn't had very many friends up until this point, and he's protective of all of them.

>continued
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Archelon how did Celestino manage to have such young children at such an old age? How old are his other kids? Why did he have kids so late? The impression I got was that Celestino & Thierri were at least 2 generations apart.
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>>29745097
>Implying Celestino isn't a lich
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>>29745059
>>29745031
>>29745068
>>29745063
Then go be a duelist and stop using the princess as an excuse. You cant have it both ways.
And we did almost die, We almost bled out
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>>29745097
men can have kids up until they die, and while fertility drops with age celestino's aging is slowed down due to his high magic
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>>29745091
>The "so nice I kind of want his dick" is also part of this
>he's rather murderous when it comes to things endangering the people who he cares about
Wow wow,it's just like my subpar haremshit animu
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>>29745097
Golems?
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>>29745091
We're page 10 arch

get a new thread up. you can continue explaining there
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>>29745091
>he's rather murderous when it comes to things endangering the people who he cares about
God, I hate this cliche
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>>29745156
to be fair, rein isn't just "i want to kill this guy for hurting my friends" he's grown up actually having to kill people for fucking with the one good thing in his life
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>>29745156

>caring about your friends is bad thing

ok
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>>29745156
If you had Rein's life, wouldn't you act this way too?

Hell, GREGORY does this. He just demonstrated it earlier.
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>>29745091
>continuation

But now there are all kinds of complaints about wanting to make him "more alpha" and "stop letting waifus walk all over him" and the like, while calling CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT as the reason to start playing him differently after over a hundred threads and nearly five months of real-life time.

And while I totally understand the complaints about him waffling and the like (and will try to do more on my part to make him more interesting in terms of his interactions with others from here on out), I don't get the sudden influx of people who want Reinhold to start acting like a super badass who never apologizes for anything ever because that's how a manly man of manliness is supposed to act.

But in the end, you're the ones who are playing him.

And now I go back to writing
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>>29745197
>GREGORY does this.
Which is just as obnoxious.
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>>29745196
>caring about your friends is bad thing
Nice dodge
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>>29745156
I'm just curious, do you not care about your family?
If people you cared about were being mugged/robbed/attacked would you simply allow it to happen with a smile on your face?
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>>29745097
his balls are filled with magic?
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So like, really, can we move up to longswords now?
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>>29745097
Celestino was all about Kingly Bidness up until (relatively) recently when he had a sudden relization that he really ought to get around to producing some heirs.

And then he had ten.
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>>29745211
>super badass who never apologizes for anything ever because that's how a manly man of manliness is supposed to act
Great job making shit up. Most people just don't want their character to get jerked around because he backpedals with apologies all the time.
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>>29745211
Probably for the best to do a new thread, Arch.

And yeah the whole change in character is weird, some people seem to think Rein is a macho badass mix of Shounen protagonist with american antihero.
But this change makes absolutely 0 (zero) sense
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>>29745233
Why not a BASTARD sword?
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>>29745233
>longswords
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>>29745211

hear hear, arch.

His character can change but that quick of a change is way too odd.
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>>29745251
Same thing.

>>29745253
That's different. Sort of.
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>>29745237
clearly he does not fuck around
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>>29745220
>>29745196
No need to strawman, anons. Theres a difference between caring about someone and going all shounen I FITE FER MUH FREENDS
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>>29745211
The Rien you have been writing is since the first thread is fine. He's part of the reason we all like these threads so much.
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>>29745091
>>29745211
arch, you should save this type of communication until after the quest, and to a minimum. Doing this in the middle of the quest will make the players hold you instead of the characters responsible for any development they don't like.

>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1emQ6IYzRYN4MG45Zl9a-0UH0ARuWLaBB_U924NXc-DY/pub#h.ron1hbwit3mo
This section should be particularly helpful
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>>29745211
I could see the duel being a real eye opener where he realizes he needs to stop fucking around and actually be useful for once.

But hey, its your VN.
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>>29745273
>Theres a difference between caring about someone and going all shounen I FITE FER MUH FREENDS
Please elaborate because I am having a hard time seeing the difference when applied to this particular setting.
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>>29745211
>want Reinhold to start acting like a super badass who never apologizes for anything ever because that's how a manly man of manliness is supposed to act.

I think you're exaggerating. And it's not sudden. I followed since day 1 and didn't like it when Reinhold just kept throwing his money at waifus to be 'nice' and always acted the way he does. I think for others too, it's just reached a boiling point.

>super badass who never apologizes for anything ever because that's how a manly man of manliness is supposed to act.

Does not qualify you apologizing and groveling to a waifu over *every* *thing*.

People are just arguing it's unfun and pathetic to have him apologize over everything and that "being so nice I want to hit him" isn't fun for some players. It's boring and frustrating.
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>>29745273
take note of what was first quoted
>he's rather murderous when it comes to things endangering the people who he cares about
the key word here is "endangering" this isn't just fucking around with. rein has lived a life where people dieing is a very real possibility, so if things start reaching dangerous levels rein isn't afraid of protecting his own from the people that may very well kill them
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>>29745275
THANK YOU!
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>>29745240
>backpedals with apologies all the time.
but we keep making Reinhold do that. Do what im going to do, make different choices and suggestions when we have the opportunity to avoid acting spineless.

I would also like to suggest (not seriously) asking Gregory to princess carry us back to the castle. It is now apparent that he likes us, so now is the time to fuck with him. And when it backfires horribly we get to enjoy the ride.
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>>29745296
Because he clearly has been completely useless to Marianne before this point.

Usefulness is subjective. Marianne certainly thinks we're useful if those rank ups mean anything.
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>>29745275
Thirded
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>>29745322
Yeah, I was honestly very put off when we bought the Earrings for Nico.

and yes, I'm aware that friends give friends gifts, but not diamond fucking earrings.
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>>29745211
I don't really care one way or the other about the whole not-apologizing super badass thing, but just want to point out that both Marianne and Nico have acted disgusted towards him about being too nice. If you're going to have some of his close friends continuously berate him for acting that way it shouldn't be too much of a surprise when some people act on those interactions and want to change a bit.
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>>29745275
>He's part of the reason
Not from what I've seen often
and
>implying the fanbase only has one opinion
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>>29745211
>Super baddass

I don't think like THAT

it's just the idea of having SOME things he won't budge on.

Otherwise we're talking standard shonen hero who's always apologizing to his supporting cast but whips ass.

It's just boring always taking the 'safe route' due to game theory you know?
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>>29745372
We do kind of have a lot of money we have nothing to do with.
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>>29745273
Strawman?
I'm simply trying to point out that if you care about someone and they are threatened, then you assist in ways you can.

Reinhold is a swordsman with very little by way of other skills. If a problem can be sworded into submission he'll likely go that route as his favored method.

Calling the act of defending one's friends (or being angry when they are messed with) a cliche(i.e.a phrase or opinion that is overused and betrays a lack of original thought.) is like calling the sun rising every day a cliche.
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>>29745091
>>29745211
I think most of the complaints come from new players.
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>>29745275
The other NPCs make it. Monique Quest would be x10 more entertaining. Especially if you guys had 100% free reign to have Generic "Nice Guy" as our MC
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>>29745388
>Hey Reinhold good work this week, he's your big bag of money
Seriously, Reinhold has a really good job all things considered.
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>>29745372
She seemed to really want them and we have disposable income we didn't know what to do with. We'll earn back that money in a month's time anyway.
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>>29745373
>disgusted
Stop exagerating, heck those are outright lies when you think about it. They like that he's as nice as he is, they just think it's a bit weird. Marianne was actually thinking he wasn't as nice, remember that she was convinced of the opposite and stopped bothering with it.
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>>29745388

Yes.

And to be fair, with Rein's current education on econs and stuff, he doesn't really know what to do with most of it, other than buy foods and sometimes things for his friends.
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>>29745322
This. Reinhold's niceness is more like doing anything and everything to avoid any possible bump or disagreement (over anything) while at the same time trying to make people like us better
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It was the player's input that gave us the cake, the stuffed alpaca, etc...

And now you want him to not apologize when a little girl or himself almost get killed.

Just because he's not completely at fault doesn't mean he shouldn't apologize when he fuck up/get himself in trouble, if only to show his consideration for his friends' feeling.
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>>29745295
>middle of the quest

okay.
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>>29745388
yeah, but we don't have to spend it all on gifts for the girls. We really need to have some other hobby to spend the money on, because otherwise we're just going to end up hoarding it like Asshole Guard did.
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>>29745388
You mean like save up or put into something even mildly productive? Even rich people don't just randomly buy things. It's unnatural. It's just being 'nice'. No other reason we did it.
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>>29745454
But...we didn't spend it all on gifts...we still have a lot of money left over.
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>>29745454
There's that book we borrowed and then forgot about. We should spend more time reading it once we get back to Granache.
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>>29745373
>but just want to point out that both Marianne and Nico have acted disgusted towards him about being too nice
It wasn't disgust, though I suppose I wasn't clear enough about that in the writing.
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>>29745461
She couldn't (wouldn't? I don't know if she's just poor as fuck or if daddy doesn't let her use the magical credit card) afford all the stuff.

So the 'Hold was like "whatever I don't even know what to do with money, here's your diamonds"
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>>29745273
i helped a friend of mine in a street fight back in high school, we lost but it still felt pretty good.
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>>29745454
>We really need to have some other hobby to spend the money on
considering one month's pay was enough to buy a house, it better be an expensive as fuck hobby
what ever happened to that book on investing we read way the hell back?
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>>29745454
saving money has nothing to do with asshole guard

Reinhold has a hobby he spends money on, art. It just doesn't cost that much since he isn't a full time artist.

We haven't even bought many gifts for people, we treated them once or twice and bought a few gifts.
Reinhold still has a lot of money.
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>>29745448
I agree about apologizing to a little girl

but about not snapping or making a mistake? having rein make social mistakes is nice in its own way.

As long as he isn't a long term asshole and does something stupid once in a while due to intense pressure.... I like it.
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>>29745454
Like say, art?
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>>29745448
the cake thing was completely retarded though. it only happened because the players here have the same decision making skills as the ones in SWQ.
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>>29745448
>It was the player's input that gave us the cake, the stuffed alpaca, etc...

Not all the players.

>And now you want him to not apologize when a little girl or himself almost get killed.

Wasn't our fault. Don't even bother responding to this because we've all had this rodeo.

>Just because he's not completely at fault doesn't mean he shouldn't apologize when he fuck up/get himself in trouble, if only to show his consideration for his friends' feeling.

You don't apologize just to show consideration when it's not your fault.
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>>29745388
Then save it or buy equipm- I mean books. Just don't fucking throw it away with gifts to people we just met to make them want his dick
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>>29745424
then fucking start a monique quest already! back up your words! or are you so reinhold to do it?
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threads on page 10 and falling, might want to get that next thread ready for the next post
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How much money does Reinholder even have now? He must have like 10 gs by now
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>>29745211
>who never apologizes for anything ever because that's how a manly man of manliness is supposed to act.

Okay stop right there you criminal scum. There's a difference between apologizing for misdeeds and being a faggot with no spine that says sorry every 3 words. Being that spineless wouldnt make him qualify as a warrior, they have to have a spine when they're trained in the military and I doubt he would've made it far with the S-S-S-S--S-SORRY, in fact I bet he would've get slapped so hard he'd probably be dead by now.

Remember kids an alpha apologizes when its due but doesnt afraid of biting back when he has to. Still if you want to play him as a faggot that is afraid of getting his waifus mad at least give him a proper job like a servant or something where it makes sense to have that lack of security.
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>>29745480
arch, start a new thread pls.

that and we've had more than enough explanation. No need to feed the wolves anymore
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>>29745409
>care
>defending
He said murderous, it's a bit different from being angry. Stop being irrelevant
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>>29745498
>wasn't your fault
Your opinion. Stop pretending your opinion is the only that matters.
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>>29745498
>It's not MY fault.
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>>29745492
I really don't like how archelon just immediately worked on trying to undo it and then sweep it under the rug. Sometimes I really don't think archelon is someone you can reason with when he makes these insane exaggerations over what people say
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>>29745498
>You don't apologize just to show consideration when it's not your fault.
Then why do people apologize for the death of a friends loved one?
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>>29745498
>Not all the players.

Well, Quest Threads are tyranny of the majority, who would have thought?

>You don't apologize just to show consideration when it's not your fault.

You never said sorry to your mom for making here worried over stupid shit?
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>>29745507
got 10 gold for first month's pay, second is probably pretty close, then there's also the tournament prize, and he may be entitled to some of the eschenwald family stuff as well
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>>29745473
Hyperbole, son.

>>29745495
There's a reason why I said 'some other hobby.' Maybe we should start a collection, or get other weapons we can train ourselves in. Being the best swordy only really matters if we have a sword in our hands.
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>>29745490
... we could invest it in a business or something...

IF WE KNEW HOW!

Or just use our money to purchase the brothel back home and renovate it into something else
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>>29745524
Well, just consider the kind of people he has to deal with nearly every day for several months now. The man is a damn saint.
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Can I say that I hate the puns?
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>>29745519
what's that gif even from
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>>29745508
>when it's due
The whole issue came from the debate of wheter or not it was Reinhold's fault.
In my opinion people that didn't realize the whole "unable to reach a decision, trying to force an 8 year old t compromise" thing is what caused the issue, and by that logic he should have apologized.
If you disagree with that, good for you, we're all allowed to have our own opinions.
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>>29745542
we'll we saw people throwing money at women and came back with even more money.

we could do that.
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>>29745553
Yes, you can.
You just did, in fact.
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>>29745518
I'm not. Stop projecting I see way too many of your side acting like YOUR opinion is the only one that mattered, always harping on 'shitposting' because someone disagrees while making posts like:
>>29744296
>Just drown in your shit and die

It's just amazing.

>It was the player's input that gave us the cake, the stuffed alpaca, etc...

I don't even know how you got to that when you look at how I responded to it.

>The Rien you have been writing is since the first thread is fine. He's part of the reason we all like these threads so much.

etc
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>>29745541
>or get other weapons we can train ourselves in.
We already basically duel anyone with combat experience whenever we can. And we're taking lessons from super butler. Training is already on the agenda.
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>>29745553
yes you can
and I will defend your right to say it....


Even if you're a total dumbass for thinking so

I'm just fucking with you
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>>29745480
As the other anon pointed out disgust was probably the wrong word for me to use. I just wanted to point out that the NPCs have expressed <negative emotions> towards the behaviour before.
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>>29745562
I disagree indeed. I mean shit hit the fan just because the loli had to learn a hyperturbospell if she didnt knew she'd just be dissapointed until we brought grandma to the carriage.

As a sidenote archelon played really really well the kiddy rage, it was spot on.
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>>29745573
You just said you didn't want to hear the opposite opinion and handwaved it as if 'not our fault' is the default answer now.
I'm not projecting, I'm just observing your actions.
Stop acting like it's "them" and 'us", both sides shitposted, the way you act only increases the hate.
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>>29745553
but it's PUN
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>>29745515
For Reinhold it goes a bit further than your average reaction I'd assume, given he grew up in a situation where threats to himself and those he cared about could easily (and quite frequently) escalate into fights or someone being wronged in a serious way.

For him to have a stronger than normal reaction to things isn't farfetched or strange.

You could use this complaint if random scholar who's spent more time in the library than his house turned into murderface when his friends go injured.
However it's pretty justified with Reinhold's life thus far.
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>>29745584
He's training us in swords. I'm saying we should at least be familiar with other weapons in case we don't immediately have a sword in our hands.

please read all of my post before replaying.
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>>29745613
but we're about to learn a spell that summons swords?
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>>29745542
Well he does have that 'investors' book, so perhaps something will come of it eventually.

Not sure if he'd want to purchase or think about the brothel, but it's an idea.
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>>29745613
he's training us in swords and combat magic. most of our training is fixing our mistakes and learning how to cast fast and maintain spells while in combat
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>>29745597
>You just said you didn't want to hear the opposite opinion

No, you're just reading into things that aren't there since I'm the Big Bad Guy Who Disagrees With You (BBGWDWY).
>Don't even bother responding to this because we've all had this rodeo.
You can read, right? I probably already know his opinion and reasoning. I'm saying not to beat a dead horse, that I can't be fucked to have the exact same argument we had a few threads ago.
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>>29745619
"Well, random assassin, I don't seem to have a sword in my hand. please wait while I summon a sword with an overly long spell before you attempt to murder me."
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>>29745508
>Remember kids an alpha apologizes when its due but doesnt afraid of biting back when he has to. Still if you want to play him as a faggot that is afraid of getting his waifus mad at least give him a proper job like a servant or something where it makes sense to have that lack of security.

>waifus

Alright I'm stepping in here. The character, regardless of your opinions are characters that the protagonist views as friends and he's someone who has very little of those. It's a reasonable reaction for a person like that to not want to offend friends, especially new ones. He's also someone who's been raised to not anger or offend people. Hell he doesn't drink because of his childhood.

You want Reinhold to be someone who's indecisive about relationships because of his childhood because you don't want a certain route, you have to take the rest of that childhood package with you.

It's fine if you don't want the character to waffle, that just means you need to actually be decisive in your actions and not use the character's past trauma as a shield because it is a two edged sword.
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>>29745647
It would take about as long to pick up another weapon as it would to cast Fragment Blader.
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>>29745646
If that's truly your intent, then so be it.
But
> too many of your side acting like YOUR opinion is the only one that mattered, always harping on 'shitposting'
This was just a baseless accusation that seems oddly similar to your "You just say this because I'm the Big Bad Guy Who Disagrees With You (BBGWDWY)®" Theory
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>>29745647
if that's the scenario you're looking at we should be learning unarmed rather than anything else, since a sword is the quickest thing to draw other than knives, which i believe we also have one of
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>>29745647
On the flip side we could simply pull what Volker does and carry around a mini sword stockpile. Then we always have a sword.
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>>29745682
New thread.
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Let's just continue this discussion here and let it die with the thread.
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>>29745665
thank you Cosgrove
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>>29745665
So...is Bleach Quest dead or do you just not have a set date to start it back up?
And when is the next PPQ?
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>>29745665
What about the fact archelon pretty much went "lol" at people not wanting Reinhold to be a completely boring white knight? Apparently that would make him Conan or something
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>>29745665
I partially agree.

Yes he's much more subservient around women due to 'muh trauma' stuff

but does occasional snapping from pressure and staying firm about fighting still fit in?

I think it does. I mean apologizing for offending girls or being a jerk I get it.
but If he apologized for fighting setskuna, he's lying through his teeth. He'd have killed to get a chance like that.
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>>29745665
I love you Cos, even if I cannot into PPQ due to the Marvelverse being a strange impenetrable mass to me.
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>>29745480
no it was clearly not disgust. some anons have been exagerrating nico's and marie's negative reactions as far as i can remember. i have no idea why but this is the case.
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>>29745665
Respond to what that anon was responding to.
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>>29745721
No. That isn't the issue- the issue is that player choices have guided this character to this point. That is who the players let him become.

You want to change it? that's fine. But do it in a way that suits the character in a natural evolution and don't complain about how he's been because of prior choices.

>>29745732
Look- even you snap, you should apologize, even if it is later. That's not an issue, but over what issues is it Worth snapping over? That needs to be something that's though long and hard over. This character was beaten for outbursts- so if you want to have him have a moment like that, make it something that he'd absolute sure about- like if he'd been told 'you can't duel' when the sealed kind was revealed, that would be a good point to snap at people- its a fight you can't pass up.

I don't disagree the character wouldn't apologize about the fight, but he'd at least apologize that the situation worried them. It went to an extent that normal duels don't and it was a legendary sword. Sure, the fight was cool but a person can pause and go 'yeah, but I see how it worried you, sorry that I did."

It's apologizing for the fight's effect on others, not that he had the duel. There's a difference there.
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>>29745732
he is not apologizing for fighting setsuranka. he is apologizing because he fought to near death and got everyone that care about him worried.
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>>29745873
One rationalization I had?
Multiple love confessions. Just got in a fight last night. Had to spend hours in a party surrounded by nobles, had to be on his best behavior. Came across the ex-bodyguard who almost raped Marianne. Then he got challenged to a duel. Then Elena almost dies.

Then, immediately right after, our friend just degrades and talks shit about us without even trying to understand. That isn't justifiable?

>>29745873
Read the whole thread if you can. One response for the first post of your post is:
>>29744522
Plus
>>29744663
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>>29745873
I don't care about apologizing. What I do care about is having our character being jerked around on a chain by the girls because he keeps backpedaling and apologizing over every little thing. He can be a polite guy without the majority immediately stomping on any chance for Reinhold to disagree with someone over fear of losing points with whatever waifu they prefer.

Archelon said that the players wanted to be a macho man who doesn't apologize to anyone. No one said that. People just want him to actually stand his ground for things he believes in instead of getting walked all over because people want to get him to fuck someone.

Essentially: Read the thread if youhaven't already
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>>29746068
>our character being jerked around on a chain by the girls because he keeps backpedaling and apologizing over every little thing
that is not happening though.
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>>29746116
I shouldn't have tried to word it differently, I was trying to say something like
>>29744663
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>>29746145
>This is advocating we apologize whenever we upset or worry a waifu.
It doesn't mean that. Lets see the situation:
>we start a duel.
>legendary sword revealed.
>we keep on going till near death cause holy hell when are we ever going to get a chance to fight one again? most people dont even see one of these things in their lives.
now, i dont think anybody wants to apologize for fighting, but we fought to near death for a duel and got everyone worried. we apologize for worrying them. It is not even backpedalling. We would probably fight the same way again if we had the chance to fight a sealed king in a controlled envionment that limited the chance of death or perminent injury, but it doesnt mean we shouldnt apologize and ask for forgiveness for worrying them.


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