>What is this?Saiyan Story is a series of Choose Your Own Adventure threads in which you play the part of a Saiyan Warrior. Decisions are made by vote, with the first option to earn three winning.>StatsPower Level: 35,000,000Health: ExcellentKi: 100%>RecapYou took Selri and Collie to mars, where Fita's parents examined them and informed you of the many injuries they had suffered. While your daughters were taken away for treatment, you were summoned by Arey, who told you that the Dragon Balls were ready. He also told you of how to summon the dragon, and its powers. You left him alone to get rest, and eventually went looking for Nappa, who was angry at the lack of a training facility on Mars. After taking him back to the Lookout, you spoke with Korin. He agreed to give you some senzu beans so that you could grow your own on Mars, and in exchange, you promised to wish for the growing process to be quicker, and promised him a robot butler that could help him grow beans and provide belly-rubs. Kami later informed you that Android 16 had destroyed every city and town on the planet, leaving only a few hundred humans alive. You stepped up your training in earnest, only to be disappointed by the slow increase in your power. You decided to try a new form of training, mastering Super Saiyan 2 like you did with your first Super Saiyan form. Sadly, you have failed so far. You spoke with 18 about the saiyans, and your friendship with her and her brother.
"I guessed as much from day one" you tell 18. "The situation felt similar. And since it was mainly the support of my family and friends that got me here, I wanted to try and do the same for you and your brother. I hope I've been even half successful."18 gives you a warm smile. "You have. You've been a great friend to both of us, thank you.">A. Say something>B. Do something
>>29752619>A"Good to hear.">BContinue trying to master SSJ2, but doing so feeling a little more satisfied about things in general.
>>29752671Should we try digging deep? Pulling out just enough energy to really push our limits, but not enough to wreck ourselves like the ascended kaioken did?
>>29752671>>29752718>>29752729"Good to hear" you tell her.She says goodbye and lets you get back to training. You continue trying to master Super Saiyan 2, and find yourself feeling more satisfied about things in general while doing so. Unfortunately, you still find the form frustratingly impossible to master despite your best efforts. You can't keep focused or in the right state of mind, and your body wears out after a while. You fall back in exhaustion once again, only this time, you don't see anybody looking down at you when you do so.>A. Go get the dragon balls>B. Keep trying>C. Gather everyone and prepare to fight 16>D. Sleep>E. Something else
>>29752797>EDrop back to SSJ1, and dig deep from there. Keep digging until it starts to hurt.Hopefully the much calmer state will allow us to improve our ki flow more easily.
>>29752797This isn't working. I think to power up we need to get our shit kicked in.E. Go spar with Vegeta until we pass out(or he does)
>>29752797>BBtw who is Huhn-tresh, have we seen her around lately by any chance? And would ki infused weapons be of any use at our level?
>>29753008Huhn-tresh is the lady we met when we got teleported by popo to a different planet
>>29753008read the archives
>>29752963The last thread established that we're at the point of diminishing returns for that form of training: we're just too used to it.I'd at least want to try >>29752848 before giving up on improving our ki, and out of character ki training IS the path to SSJ3, because SSJ2 is basically described as 100% utilization of physical abilities.
>>29753009Still voting >>29752848Because doing this at SSJ2 isn't working at all, and using words like "impossible" isn't promising.
>>29752848>>29753110>>29753064>>29753038You drop into your normal Super Saiyan form, then dig deep like you used to. You feel your power level increase somewhat, and you keep digging, and digging, and digging, to the point where you start to become dizzy, and your vision becomes blurry.>A. Say something>B. Do something
>>29753188>BHold there until it feels like we're going to pass out, then slowly reduce the amount of energy we're drawing.This operates on the same logic that lifters use: push up hard, and let it down slow and smooth. Increases our peak force, and increases our ability to sustain at or near peak.
>>29753188>B Keep going further and furtherWhat's happening is that when goku was dead, the strain of SSJ2 is diminished so he could go further and further without getting exhausted and eventually he pushed so hard he went SSJ3So we can't go super saiyan 3 without a way to diminish the strain of super saiyan 2
>>29753188Lets try this>>29753244
>>29753410>>29753361>>29753244You hold the level of power you are currently at until you feel ready to pass out, then you slowly reduce the amount of energy that you draw. It gets smaller, and smaller, until eventually you stop digging and simply fall back in exhaustion."It this just part of your daily routine?" 18 asks as she walks by.>A. Say something>B. Do somehting
>>29753244This seems like a good idea
>>29753652>A"From now on, maybe. I have to find a new way to put myself under strain, and I remembered how badly I messed myself up trying to draw ki past my body's limit.""Why, was the spike really that small?"
>>29753652>A. It is now. I feel like I'm not making any advancement from conventional training, so I'm trying to get a better handle on what I already have.
>>29753784>>29753742>>29753733>>29753723>>29753701"From now on, maybe" you tell her. "I have to find a new way to put myself under strain, and I remembered how badly I messed myself up trying to draw ki past my body's limit. Why, was the spike really that small?""No, it was a significant power difference" she tells you. "But it was weaker than your ascended Super Saiyan or triple Kaio-Ken Super Saiyan.">A. Say something>B. Do something
>>29754075"Yeah, it was something I did before I learned the kaio-ken, or unlocked the Super Saiyen. It was decent enough but got way outclassed by both of those."
>>29754075>A"You mind if I bug you with my thought process for a moment?""Physical training is reaching a point of diminishing returns, so I've been working with ascended super saiyan to draw greater amounts of ki. But that form is unstable: I can barely control it as it is. So I tried dropping back into regular super saiyan, but using an alternate method for accessing my ki reserves: one that unlike kaioken, seems to be an innate ability."
>>29754236What if we try triggering the Oozaru transformation while in SSJ/SSj2?
>>29754236>>29754255>>29754280>>29754330"You mind if I bug you with my thought process for a moment?" you ask."You're going to no matter what I say" she jokes. "Go ahead.""Physical training is reaching a point of diminishing returns, so I've been working with ascended Super Saiyan to draw greater amounts of energy. But that form is unstable. So, I tried dropping back into regular Super Saiyan, but using an alternate method for accessing my energy reserves. One that, unlike Kaio-Ken, seems to be an innate ability.""Okay, and for what purpose?" she asks. "What exactly do you hope to accomplish?">A. Say something>B. Do something
>>29754379>A I'm sure there's another form, I can feel it inside me but I'm not sure how to reach it
>>29754379>A"Two things. First, I suppose you could call this innate ability the "hard way": my body is used to physical strain, and is even getting used to the kaioken transformation. But pulling out energy without transforming is something I stopped doing years ago due to the apparent superiority of the kaioken at accomplishing the same thing. So in terms of straining my body, it's more novel.""Second, in the long term, I felt my own ki reserves when I tried using kaioken in ascended super saiyan. There's more ki there than I ever thought possible, and accessing it is going to be the next step forward. I can feel it, I just haven't found a way to get it yet.">BTry digging deep in ssj2, similar to the way we did it in ssj1, without trying to meditate. Just accept the fact that aggression is a thing we'll have to deal with for now.
>>29754507This sounds good
>>29754379>>29754507God damn you keep spitting out awesome responses.
>>29754507Well then. Voting this
>>29754507You singlehandedly increasing Franks IQ
>>29754553>>29754553They're only awesome if I'm not steering us down a dead end.
>>29754656Also true, but its a fine bit of fluff. Besides, OOC we know there is more down there so it isn't entirely wrong. Just a bit dubious of a method... we should probably just go kick vegetas ass for a while.
>>29754684>>29754656>>29754655>>29754632>>29754553>>29754538>>29754507"Two things" you tell her. "First, I suppose you could call this innate ability the "hard way". My body is used to physical strain, and is somehow even getting used to the Kaio-Ken transformation. But pulling out energy without transforming is something I stopped doing years ago due to the apparent superiority of the Kaio-Ken at accomplishing the same thing. So in terms of straining my body, it's more novel. Second, in the long term, I felt my own ki reserves when I tried using Kaio-Ken in ascended Super Saiyan. There's more energy there than I ever though possible, and accessing it is going to be the next step forward. I can feel it, I just haven't found a way to get at it yet."She stares at you for a moment. "Well, good luck." She turns and continues her walk, leaving you alone.You proceed to transform into Super Saiyan 2 despite your exhaustion, and then try to dig deep once again. Immediately your body flares in agony, your muscles and insides screaming at you to stop.>A. Stop>B. Keep pushing
>>29754804>B Scream if we have to
>>29754804Same as before. Hold it briefly, then let it down slowly. Rest for a bit, then do it again.
>>29754804>B We can take the pain.
>>29754837Wait a second. Ignore thatDo this instead >>29754836
>>29754836Yeah, smart one, we don't want to die again.
>>29754913>>29754896>>29754837>>29754836>>29754820You hold the power you are at briefly, just as before, and then slowly let it return to normal, this time, when you collapse in exhaustion, you also lose consciousness. You wake up sometime later, once more at the Lookout, to find Salta sitting next to your bed, leaning back with her eyes closed.>A. Say something>B. Do something
>>29754804Wait, did Frank suddenly just sound so smart that 18 didn't know what to say? Or was that painfully stupid and I somehow haven't noticed it?
>>29754955>A."I swear I'll stop passing out every training session one day. How long have I been out?"
>>29754955>BGet up, wake her with a kiss, wait for her to tell us how long we were out this time.
>>29754971I was going to have her comment that that's the most reasonable thing he has ever said, but most conversations she's had with him, he has showed an amount of intelligence well above what he usually demonstrates.
>>29754973This>>29755041She brings out the best in us lol
>>29755041Frank's IQ doubles near 18, all according to keikaku...
>>29755022>>29755013>>29754973>>29755061"I swear, I'll stop passing out every training session one day" you tell her. "How long have I been out?""About a week" she tells you, opening her eyes. "You know you're an idiot, right?">A. Say something>B. Do something
>>29755121>A"The thought's occurred to me, yeah. But at least I'm a well-meaning idiot.">BStand up. Don't try to stand: there is no try.
>>29755121>A And why's that?
>>29755121Yes. Where's Vegeta, I think I should stick to fighting to train from now on. Can't beat the classics.
>>29755155>>29755156>>29755279>>29755291"The thought's occurred to me" you tell her, rising to your feet. "But at least I'm a well meaning idiot."She chuckles "I know, that's why we all put up with it.">A. Say something>B. Do something
>>29755318>A Do you have your scouter? What's my power level at?
>>29755318>A. "I don't know what else I can do. Do you have any ideas of how I could train?"
>>29755318>A"Did it at least do any good? I'd like to think I was at least on the right track for once, but it's hard to tell from here."
>>29755404>>29755393>>29755359>>29755358"I don't know what else I can do" you tell her. "Do you have any ideas of how I could train.""You're already the most powerful Saiyan in the Universe" she tells you. "Maybe you're just nearing the peak of your power.""Do you have a scouter?" you ask. "What's my power level at?"She takes a moment to scan you. "Thirty eight million" she tells you.>A. Say something>B. Do something
>>29755444>A. "Maybe Kami knows something or someone that can unlock the power I have within. Because I know there's still more, I know we all have more.
>>29755444>ASigh."That means I'd be well above 16 at my peak. The only question is whether I can maintain the super kaioken long enough to put it to use.""With your permission, I'd like to be stupid one more time. Then I'll kill 16, and we'll fix everything he's done while I was too weak to stop him."
>>29755444Combine that with being a super saiyan at kaioken times three... 5.7 billion. Stronger than 16 by a small degree. Relying on kaioken is always risky and consumes sensu beans, though. How's Vegeta fared in his training?
>>29755466She's just gonna point out that he would have done that kind of thing for us already if he could.
>>29755466>>29755517>>29755529>>29755534>>29755540You sigh. "That means I'd be well above 16 at my peak. The only question is whether I can maintain the Super Kaio-Ken long enough to put it to use. With your permission, I'd like to be stupid one more time. Then I'll kill 16, and we'll fix everything he's done while I was too weak to stop him. Maybe Kami knows a way for me to unlock more of my power.""Or we could go with 17's plan" Salta suggests.>A. Say something>B. Do something
>>29755529We were about 200 million above 18 (about a 6% difference), and she could basically tank us, because the Androids don't tire. Right now, we'd only be 14% stronger than 16. I'm not quite comfortable that we could pull it off just yet, because we may well tire out before we can beat him to death.
>>29755677>A"I've been unconscious. What's 17's plan?""Idiot, remember?"
>>29755677>A. "Does it involve ganging up on 16?"
>>29755677>A. Whats 17's plan again?
>>29755713>>29755705>>29755685"I've been unconscious, what's 17's plan?" you ask. "Does it involve ganging up on 16?""No, though we'd do that before we let you fight alone" she replies."Idiot, remember?" you ask.She sighs. "I'll say. 17 told me you found out they had remotes at that lab that could set off the bombs in his and 18's chests. Well, based on the schematics we found, 16 probably has a bomb in his chest. So, why not just go to the lab, grab a remote, and blow 16 up in about ten seconds?">A. Say something>B. Do something
>>29755749>A Yeah, but what if they removed the bomb? Then this whole thing will just be a waste of time
>>29755749>A. "I like that. But what if the Red Ribbon Army removed or change the codes to only be usable with their remotes?">"Still, it's worth a try, who's going?"
>>29755749>A. Sure, we don't have anything to lose by trying that.
>>29755749>A"I'm familiar with those remotes. You need to be close enough for it to work, and as 17 and 18 proved themselves, you'd need to be fast enough for him to not simply snatch it from you.""And if it turns out he doesn't have one... humanity has a word for what they'd be, and that word is 'boned'."
>>29755749I learned in the red ribbon base that those bombs can only be activated at close range. If the one in 16's chest is strong enough to kill him, it would probably be a suicide mission.
>>29755749"Okay, sounds like a plan. But one question: did 17 get around to removing his bomb? Cause I don't want to end up using the wrong remote and blow him up."
>>29755826Trying that last part again"And if it turns out he doesn't have a bomb, humanity has a special word for whoever we'd be sending - boned."
>>29755749Did 17 ever get his removed? Wouldn't want to blow up the wrong andriod by mistake...
>>29755866NOT worth trying. Voting >>29755826 >>29755858
>>29755826This.Wow, we DID get knocked on the head a few times too many. Our IQ went through the roof.
>>29755946>>29755909>>29755895"Did 17 ever get his removed?" you ask."No, but those remotes only work at close range, it isn't an issue" Salta tells you."I like that, but what if the Red Ribbon Army removed or changed the codes to only be usable with their remotes?" you ask.She looks at you like you're a complete idiot. "You're getting one of their remotes, dimwit.""It's worth a try, who's going?" you ask.She facepalms. "Gee, I don't know. Who's the person who found out about the remotes, knows Instant Transmission, and is strong enough where one lucky shot from 16 won't mean death?">A. Say something>B. Do something
>>29756071>A17 or 18?
>>29756071>A But do you think Fluffy is up to the task?
>>29756071>A. "Oooh, okay. So give me one of those remotes, time to stop wasting time"
>>29756071>A"Sorry, some of the voices in my head are being particularly stupid today.""Does 17 have any idea where to find a remote, or am I just going to be wandering around inside the RRA bunker blindly?"
>>29756071THIS>>29756177then laugh it off and >>29756186
>>29756177This one. Brilliant.continue seriously though
>>29756253>>29756238>>29756215>>29756177>>29756186"But do you think Fluffy is up to the task?" you ask.She stares at you for a moment before laughing, and you laugh along with her."Sorry, some of the voices in my head are being particularly stupid today" you tell her. "Does 17 have any idea where to find a remote, or am I going to be wandering inside the RRA bunker blindly?"She sighs. "You were the one who told him about the remotes, are you sure you didn't figure out where ANY of them are?">A. Say something>B. Do something
>>29756438"Well, there was one with that lady doctor"
>>29756438A. again voices are stupider today
>>29756438>A"I read the mind of the man who shot Dr. Briefs. He and the Doctor who tried to reprogram 18 had a copy each of 17s remote. Their corpses would be a good place to start looking for 16's, but short of that I'd have no idea."
>>29756438>A. I read the mind of one Doctor and he only knew of two of them. One he had, which I destroyed, and another which the lady doctor had, who I managed to vaporize before we left the bunker. I have no idea if it was on her when I killed her. If it was I doubt it would have survived. But it may still be in the base
>>29756584>Which I destroyedWhen?
>>29756754Just looked it up. I was wrong. sorryThe remote should still be in the traitors desk. If no one took it anyway
>>29756919After what we did to the RRA? Somehow I doubt anyone else has been in there.
>>29756940voting>>29756551add >It was in the traitor's desk
>>29757021>>29757016>>29756987>>29756551"I read the mind of the man who shot Dr. Briefs. He and the Doctor who tried to reprogram 18 each had copies of the remote. Their corpses would be a good place to start looking for 16's, but short of that I'd have no idea" you say."Well then, rest up for a bit, then get moving. Or we could send someone else, your call" she tells you.>A. Say something>B. Do something
>>29757216>A"No, I'll go in a bit. You're right, I'd have the best shot at success, and I'm not going to let anyone else go down there alone."
>>29757285>>29757441>>29757250"No, I'll go in a bit" you tell her. "You're right, I'd have the best shot at success, and I'm not going to let anyone else go down there alone."She nods, giving you a kiss. "Alright, well get some rest first." With that, she gets up and leaves.>A. Say something>B. Do something
>>29757497>B. Rest for a bit
>>29757497>B. Rest for a short while
>>29757750>>29757665>>29757663You decide to follow her advice and rest for a short while. You turn over and fall into a peaceful sleep. You wake up a few hours later feeling nice and refreshed.>A. Say something>B. Do something
>>29757776>BFind a waifu, let them know we're going.Then hide our power and IT down to the old RRA bunker.
>>29757854would they get mad if we called them waifus to their face?
>>29758044Quite possible. But it's faster than saying "Find either Salta, Spina, or Fita, and possibly 18 in the future, or not, I'm really not sure but a man can dream".
>>29758072Isn't it simpler to say:"Find one of Frank's wives"Wife is less idiotic than waifu
>>29758136>Find one of Frank's wivesversus>Find a waifuAlso, people keep tossing around accusations of "waifuing", so why not just say "waifus"? It's not like we have any face to save.
>>29758184Sure, just not to their faces, which is what the other guy was talking about.
>>29758519You mean >>29758072 ?Because I wasn't suggesting calling them that in character. That would be a whole new level of retarded.
>>29758585Thankfully, but this quest has seen things way worse to be honest.
>>29758624I like the difference between >>29754804 and >>29756071
Did SOM die?
>>29759015He's either writing or he got stabbed.
>>29759044He got sent to another dimension!
>>29759015>>29759044>>29759067>>29759130I don't know where I was...but I am their king now
Rolled 10SOMNIUSI summon thee betting on blackout
>>29759162Did you learn Instant Transmission?
>>29759162Was it by any chance a kindergarten?
>>29757854>>29757875>>29757917>>29757950You get out of bed and leave the room, walking down the hall, you bump into Fita, and tell her of your plans. She wishes you luck, and gives you a kiss. With that, you suppress your power and use Instant Transmission to travel to the Red Ribbon Bunker, finding yourself at the bottom of the ladder you entered with last time.>A. Go right>B. Go left
>>29759215>B. Left is always right
>>29759215We have a scouter, right? If we do check where 16 is, if not go get one and do that. Left
>>29759215Whichever way we went the first time.Also, seconding getting an advanced scouter.
>>29759215Raditz was to the Right last time. So >A
>>29759215>A. Go right
>>29759370>CGo back for an advanced scouter.
>>29759407>>29759402>>29759372>>29759344>>29759299You travel to the right, just as you did last time. Moving down the long hallway, you soon come to the door Fita destroyed. Stepping through the empty doorway, you find yourself in the lab. At the other side of the room is another broken door. A scientist lies dead at his desk, and a surgical table has dried blood, likely from 18.>A. Search the shelves>B. Search the tables>C. Search the desk drawers>D. Search through the door across the room
>>29759486>C.Thats where the scientist had it before. If its still there thats where it will be
>>29759486>CThough keep our eyes up, too. We got ambushed by 16 in this room once already.
>>29759573>>29759526>>29759523You decide to search the desk drawers, where you remember seeing the device in the scientist's thoughts. Searching, you quickly find a small remote with a single button. You take it and decide what to do next.>A. Leave before something goes wrong, back to the Lookout!>B. Leave before something goes wrong, Go to Mars!>C. See what's past that door on the other side of the room.>D. See what's in the other direction from the ladder>E. Something else
>>29759679>AWe should really fuck off and grab a scouter. Let them know that this might be 17's remote.
>>29759679>A Not fucking around. Just get the hell out
>>29759732>>29759754This, but look around us. Make sure there's nobody in the room before leaving.
>>29759732It might activate any of the andriods, if they're close enough. We just need to use this near 16 and not 17.
>>29759869We don't know if the remote is keyed to one android or all of them, that's what I mean.
>>29759869>>29759802>>29759783>>29759771>>29759754>>29759732>>29759935You take the remote and get the hell out, after quickly surveying the room to make sure nobody is there, you use your Instant Transmission to return to Mars, where you appear in front of Fita.>A. Say something>B. Do something
>>29759981>A"Well, I have *A* remote. Turns out nobody ever bothered to label the damn things, so I'm not sure who it would do in.""Where's Bulma at?"
>>29760029Personally I think we haven't been trying hard/long enough to master SSJ2. Maybe Somnius doesn't want/need us to try mastering it right now, but fpSSJ2 is just so much more emotional and raw than 1 it's going to take a lot more work. It is worth pursuing at the appropriate time.
>>29760029>>29760174"Well, I have *A* remote" you tell her. "Turns out nobody ever bothered to label the damn things, so I'm not sure who it would do in. Where's Bulma?""Outside" Fita tells you. "I'll take you to her.">A. Say something>B. Do something
>>29760262>A"After you, then.">BFollow Fita to Bulma.
>>29760343>>29760301"After you, then" you tell her.She smiles and leads you down the hall and outdoors. In the distance, you see Spina playing fetch with Fluffy. Bulma is lying in the grass not too far away, staring up at the sky. She glances over as the two of you approach."Hey" she greets. "What's up?">A. Say something>B. Do something
>>29760402>A"I have something for you to take a look at: it's a remote for an android. It MIGHT be 17's, or it might work for all of them. It might turn them off, or blow them up. I really don't know.""I'll grab a few scouters, and take 17 and 18 down to the Lookout if either of them are still up here. While I'm gone, I'd like you to take a look at the thing. See if you can figure out what it will do to who."
>>29760504ThirdedOn a completely unrelated note, I just got back from a dairy queen
>>29760402You alive SOM?
>>29760939Take off that toupee, Nappa. You look silly. Like you have a dead weasel on your head.
>>29760939I jizzed in yo ice cream
>>29761007Jokes on you, I ordered jizz flavored ice cream!
>>29761069lol I knowur a fagit m8
>>29761113Oh no! I've been found out!
>>29761199not that kind of faggot you faggotyou know I meant the homosexual varietythis is why you're a faggot
>>29761199On the internet, nobody knows you're a bundle of sticks.Nobody.
>>29760986Yeah, sorry, saying goodnight to my mother
>>29761248Say goodnight to me too while you're in there.
>>29760504>>29760550>>29760939>>29760986>>29761000>>29761007>>29761069>>29761113>>29761199>>29761233>>29761239"I have something for you to take a look at: it's a remote for an android. It MIGHT be 17's, or it might work for all of them. It might turn them off, or blow them up. I really don't know" you tell her."Wait, so you read the guy's mind to find out about this, but you don't even know what it does?" Bulma asks.You shrug and hand it to her. "I'll grab a few scouters, and take 17 and 18 down to the Lookout if either of them are still up here. While I'm gone, I'd like you to take a look at the thing. See if you can figure out what it will do to who."She nods. "Alright. 17 and 18 just went back to the Lookout, actually.">A. Say something>B. Do something
>>29761332>A"In my defense, I was in a hurry to save 18 from a fate worse than death at the time, and mind-reading takes some effort. It's not instantaneous.">BGrab a scouter, tell Fita we'll see her later, and IT own to 17 and 18. Let them know what's up.
>>29761402>>29761424>>29761456>>29761481"In my defense, I was in a hurry to save 18 from a fate worse than death at the time, and mind-reading takes some effort. It's not instantaneous" you tell her.She nods "True."You tell Fita you'll see her later and return to the building, searching for a scouter. You find none, and Salta informs you that all the extras were in Capsule Corp when it was destroyed. You proceed to travel to Kami's Lookout, where you sense 17 and 18 inside the main building.>A. Say something>B. Do something
>>29761576Let them know whats going on
>>29761576Inform them of whats happening
>>29761576>A"Found a remote of some sort down there. I left it with Bulma so she can figure out if it's what we need.""Why are you down here?"
>>29761576>Sensing androidsc'mon Som
>>29761786We can sense their minds, I think
>>29761837We can indeed, unless they're full machine. >>29761576And so we couldn't snag one from someone who's staying on Mars?How do I get the feeling I know how this is going to end.
>>29761887>>29761837>>29761786>>29761718>>29761685>>29761635>>29761616You go into the building and search for them, eventually managing to locate them sparring together in the black room. They stop mid attack as you enter and float down to the ground, approaching you."I found a remote of some sort down there" you tell them. "I left it with Bulma so she can figure out if it's what we need. Why are you two down here?""Training, of course" 17 tells you.>A. Say something>B. Do something
>>29762329>A Can I join in? promise I won't be too much of a bother>B Do our regular routine, go SSJ and start digging deep
>>29762329You know, I don't think your power level has increased since I met you. Is it hard to raise for you androids?>>29762363This, but digging deep is not an effective way to increase our power level. We should just go SSJ2. Since we'd have a small power advantage, it should be two against one.
>>29762329Does either of them have a scouter?
>>29762329this>>29762363and this dialogue>>29762447
>>29762447That wouldn't be sparring. Digging deep in SSJ2 is its own training regimen because it's so harsh on our system. We got a 3 million base increase last time we did it. We should only do this if either 17 or 18 has a scouter with them, otherwise it leaves us vulnerable.
We should challenge them to a game of strength-endurance. Maybe power up to SSJ2 and take them on in wrestling, where they can tag team and we are by ourselves. We basically have to out-last their tag-team in our SSJ2 form without falling out of SSJ2.THis will give us some competitive motivation to withstand SSJ2 for longer amounts of time.
>>29762544>>29762491>>29762486>>29762447>>29762363"Can I join in?" you ask. "I promise I won't be too much of a bother.""Actually, we wanted to ask you about that" 18 says."In that "Ascended Super Saiyan" form of yours, you might be able to put up a fight against both of us at once" 17 says."So, how about it tough guy?" 18 asks.>A. Say something>B. Do something
>>29762589>A Well, let's make it interesting, If I win, you two buy me a HETAP, if you win I buy 2 for each of you. Sounds fair?
>>29762661I like this lolso seconded
>>29762589I'm down, let's do this.Transform and roll out
>>29762661>>29762695Guys. GUYS. Civilization is destroyed, there is no goddamn HETAP to buy.
>>29762751We got magic wishes man. We buy it when we've killed 16 and wished everything back
>>29762661>>29762695>>29762709>>29762751>>29762777"Well, let's make it interesting" you suggest. "If I win, you two buy me a HETAP. If you win, I buy two for each of you. Sound fair?""Sounds more like you're extremely overconfident" 17 comments, smirking."Don't go all Vegeta on us now" 18 teases as her and 17 remove their scouters and place them outside of the room.They return and stand side by side in front of you, smirking.>A. Say something>B. Do something
>>29762777I just got the most amazing wish idea...Neverending HETAP vending machineDisregard humanity, acquire HETAP
>>29762808Ascend and engage
>>29762808>A"Actually, let me hang onto one of those scouters. As much fun as this sounds, there's still the firecrotch to keep track of. I could probably set it to a proximity warning.""Also, I'm a little tall to be Vegeta, don't you think?"
>>29762901Bahahaha! Fucking hell anon thats great.Seconding>>29762833...that is glorious. And so damn tempting.
>>29762959We could probably get one without wishes. I mean hell, if we can have unlimited muffin buttons we can get unlimited HETAP on tap.
>>29762833>>29762894>>29762901>>29762959>>29763004"Actually, let me hold onto one of those scouters and set up a proximity alarm or something in case firecrotch shows up" you say."Kami is watching, he'll let us know if 16 is coming" 18 assures you.You nod and transform, first into a Super Saiyan, then ascending, your aura becoming a swirling golden maelstrom of power, your muscles expanding, lighting flashing around you, and your power skyrocketing."I'm a little tall to be Vegeta, don't you think?" you ask."Not once we've knocked you on your ass" 17 comments before he and 18 vanish.>A. Get into a defensive stance>B. Move around>C. Flashbang afterimage>D. Something else
>>29763096>C>CLiterally, do it twice in a row. One will likely attack us first, and the other will attack us second.
>>29763131Specifically, it might be nice to hit whoever attacks us second into whoever attacks us first.
>>29763131>>29763193>>2976331118 appears to your left and begins firing energy blasts, only to hit a flashbang afterimage. She apparently expected this and averts her eyes, firing when you reappear, only to hit another. When you reappear this time, 17 suddenly appears behind you and delivers a kick to the back of your neck that sends you crashing to the floor. You get to your feet quickly and turn just in time to see the pair of them begin to fire a volley of energy blasts at you.>A. Dodge>B. Block>C. Deflect>D. Something else
>>29763340>DCopy Bardock's technique to counter the energy blasts.
>>29763340Bring up Ki Armor, then blast it outward in a sphere to catch the blasts, then deflect the strays.
>>29763340>DKi Armor it upand I like that idea>>29763389
>>29763374Describe what that is?
>>29763340Somnius... I just realised, with Nappa's overall charm and confidence, and dashing good looks, why hasn't he got an earthling girlfriend yet? I want Nappa to have a Nappa Jr.
>>29763500Nappa considered taking over the earth in the anime and having lots of half-saiyan kids after seeing gohan fight in the anime.>"Nappa briefly suggests merely taking over Earth so that they may mate with its inhabitants and produce a race of powerful half-breed Saiyans, who may eventually become Super Saiyans and re-establish Saiyan dominance in the universe"Nappa should be trying even harder than us to get a harem.
>>29763466He releases multiple energy blasts from his body and they fly at the target. Having a cloud of blasts would be useful in this scenario.
>>29763500>>29763560>yfw Nappa already has 38 hidden wives and lots of half-saiyans being trained in secret
>>29763560That would just make him a tryhard AND a weakling. Seriously, several of our older children could murder him.
>>29763597excellent!>>29763574and yes, we could just send out as many blasts of equal power to counter each of their blasts.
>>29763597At last update Nappa was weaker than Raditz.Let that sink in for a moment.
>>29763597>>29763574>>29763560>>29763506>>29763500>>29763466>>29763425>>29763389>>29763374You use your Ki Armor, and blast the energy outwards. It collides with the incoming blasts, causing them to explode before they ever reach you. 17 drops to the ground in front of you and fires an energy wave.>A. Dodge>B. Block>C. Deflect>D. Something else
>>29763657>DTeleport behind 17, leave an afterimage, and hit 18 into her brother's back when she predictably tries to catch us attacking 17.
>>29763657D. IT behind him, leg sweep and then punt.and then quickly afterimage and watch and get in defensive stance so his sister doesn't deck us
>>29763657C. Try to deflect it at 18 with our hands ki armored, then mouth blast him if it works and he gets distracted by that.
>>29763727This is the better one.
>>29763756>>29763744>>29763727You use your Instant Transmission to teleport behind 17 and leave an afterimage. He spins and strikes at it, only to be temporarily blinded. 18 appears next to you and delivers an open palmed strike that sends you flying sideways into the nearest wall. 17 then appears in front of you and pulls back his fist to punch.>A. Block>B. Counter>C. Dodge>D. Something else
>>29763815>DCan we use Ki strands to grab his fist and throw him into 18?
>>29763815C. Dodge at the very last millisecond and then head butt him. Don't forget Ki Helmet.
>>29763815>DKi armor, release it outwards again. Let's see what it can do at close quarters.
>>29763815B. Ki kick off the wall.Then have an afterimage charge after 17, but IT behind 18 and down smash.
>>29763893Voting for this.
>>29763815>BKi armor, catch his wrist. Deliver a series of body blows with our other fist while we've got his wrist held, then finish with a roundhouse ki kick.
>>29763933Eh, I'll go for >>29763893It's a running joke.
>>29763952>>29763948>>29763907>>29763893At the very last second, you dodge his punch. Gathering ki armor around your head, you proceed to headbutt 17. He grunts in pain and holds his head while he delivers a kick to the side of yours that sends you flying away from him. 18 suddenly appears and delivers a two handed downward strike that sends you plummeting towards the ground. 17 appears below you and fires an energy blast upwards. It strikes you full force and crashes you into the ceiling, continuing to push you against it. 18 appears next to 17, smirking up at you."Give up yet?" she asks.>A. Say something>B. Do something
>>29764064I'll admit, I'm not used to anything other than one on one. But even if I'm going to lose I haven't lost yet, I won't get stronger if I don't give it my all.Then charge them.
>>29764064>A. Not a chance>B Charge in and start using close range energy blasts midway through a punch
>>29764064"I'm not unconscious yet so I'm going with no"Charge 17 and afterimage through him and hit 18 from behind
>>29764064>A"Fighting both of you at once is kind of annoying.">BIT to 17 grab him by the ankles, and smack 18 with him.
>>29764064B. IT inbetween them.Ki strand both of them, getting either their leg or arm.Fly straight up. Smash them together.
>>29764064Gather the blast into your hands and form it into a sphere. Compress it, toss it past them, and have it explode into hundreds of tiny blasts. If this works and distracts them, ki armor up, it between them, grab their arms, spin around at ludicrous speed like a fucking lunatic, then let go.
>>29764250Voting >>29764232I like the idea of smacking one opponent with the other. And it SHOULD be unexpected.
>>29764255eh, ill go with this. I wanted ki strands before
>>29764236voting for mine
>>29764300>>29764296>>29764281>>29764255>>29764236>Using Ki Strands on opponents with lower power levels and violently swinging them with itOkay, this is gonna be fun to write, say goodbye to waifu chances
>>29764236Ki strands are notoriously unpredictible. I vote for >>29764281
>>29764344Fuck you, no. I've told these retards before, please don't punish us ALL because a couple of us are stupid.
>>29764344NO goddammit, I just fucking said Ki Strands were a bad idea!
>>29764175voting for thisanything but ki strands really
>>29764344>say goodbye to waifu chancesI'm not sure whether to be upset or happy about this.
>>29764345>notoriously unpredictiblereally? My understanding is that it doesn't cut unless you clench your fist. Oh well, take away my vote then.
>>29764344Whoah what?Nevermind then. God dammit, i dont want to dismember people
>>29764434They cut when SOM wants them to.
>>29764255>>29764296>>29764300You retards. Remember that fight with 18 when I kept telling you not to use this technique against out allies when we're at a power advantage?How fucked in the head ARE you people that you can't figure this out on your own? >>29764344If you do this, we're done.
>>29764466Seriously, half the time it's a case of this. But in this case it SHOULD be an obvious bad idea. Key word SHOULD.
>>29764466How exactly is it that we're still not clear on how ki strands work?
>>29764470>>29764463>>29764429>>29764384>>29764382It won the vote by a significant amount....somehow, I still don't get why anybody thought it was a good idea.
>>29764344Can I cast a nega-vote at the ki strands thing?
>>29764518Apparently nobody did, but nobody said anything.Just do the one where we smack 17 with 18, that's basically all I wanted if the tetherball thing isn't going to happen.
>>29764175this is probably the smartest move so i'm voting for this one
>>29764518Because they don't think of strands as being as dangerous as much as being a rope.
>>29764518Because we have newcomers, I think.Please, SOM. Just don't do it. There were about three people in the last vote who supported it, and way more people against it. It's just that the people against it weren't voting as a block.And don't count votes before and after the runoff together.
>>29764518Maybe I'm miscounting but I only saw two votes, and one of them was a samefag?
>>29764518Well for one, you counted >>29764281, which says NOTHING about using Ki Strands. I suspect you may be pushing towards more bullshit drama.
>>29764518Please some, we are only a little bit strong so don't have them do more than a mild burn. They aren't all that powerful of an attack, after all.
>>29764518Well I certainly would rather take back my vote.In my mind they are more ropelike rather than razors or somethingId change to >>29764232
>>29764547>>29764509>>29764508>>29764470>>29764469>>29764466>>29764463>>29764434>>29764429>>29764387>>29764384>>29764382>>29764345>>29764555>>29764557>>29764558>>29764600>>29764598>>29764590>>29764572>>29764566Okay everybody, the Ki Strand idea won the vote, but as many of you pointed out, this is a TERRIBLE idea. So, we're going to stop here for tonight, and tomorrow we will start from the last update. If the Ki Strand idea somehow wins again at that point, then we're going with it. Consider this your second chance to not dismember your friends.>Any questions before we conclude?
>>29764518Can you put it to a strawpoll instead? That's what you do when we're doing something stupid and divisive. Please?
>>29764598This is exactly how I think of it.I mean we should be able to control how strong our own fucking attack is, and not have Som dictate when it does or doesn't cut.Maybe we should do a training where we learn to control it or some shit so this doesn't happen again.
>>29764600I'd suggest that people re-familiarize themselves with Frank's attacks for future threads. There seems to be a recurring issue with that, and it just lets SOM go wild punishing us as a group.
>>29764624Can you do Strawpoll instead?
>>29764624No questions tonight. Thanks for the save, SOM
>>29764624Man, I sure was nervous when you said no more babying or holding hands or second chances. Good thing you turned out to be full of shit! You always say we won't survive long, but if you let us retcon every mistake like this we'll live forever! Thanks man!
>>29764639That would make sense. As for why SOM probably won't be doing it? Because that would make sense.
>>29764712Good point, fuck it, ki strand won
>>29764654This needs to be a priority. Having them be useless against an opponent is one thing, but to have another bullshit Fita incident while sparing would just shit on everyone.
>>29764712God fucking dammit you asshole.
>>29764753>>29764733>>29764685>>29764672>>29764659>>29764654>>29764639>>29764760This anon makes a good point>>29764712
>>29764741You better not be fucking serious. Don't listen to one fucktard over everybody else.
>>29764712There's a difference between everyone piling onto a choice that could go either way, and having the MC do something retarded because a distinct minority of posters are retards.
>>29764659That, and I think we should start qualifying the power of attacks like ki strands that can bite us in the ass. something like "I try X, but not using enough power to slice, just to tie them up"
>>29764654I completely agree with you>>29764777I seriously cannot disagree more.
>>29764777I am literally speechless. You had a shot at doing something reasonable. You had it. You were on the verge of not being an asshole for once.
>>29764835>>29764814>>29764792I'm just screwing with you, of course I'm not just gonna listen to him, relax
>>29764760#rektI honestly do not understand how you guys have fun in a quest where the worst thing that will ever happen is your waifus make fun of you, because the QM retcons everything else, whether through dragonballs or actual direct "this decision will fuck things up, so I'll tell you that and pretend you never made it">>29764805Except it was a majority choice? I guess you're all retards.
>>29764777No he doesn't. There is no excuse for rat bastarding worse than normal. Besides he's just one of the same fuckers who would vote to destroy the planet, do you really want them to have their way at fucking us over?
>>29764861Damn guy, I gave you a chance to be a better QM. I guess you're not interested.
>>29764861You make us nervous, man
>>29764865Go fuck yourself nigger.
>>29764861chances with 18 as of now?
>>29764861God dammit SOM. I truly hate you in the best way. >>29764865It was a fairly uninformed choice on my part. I thought we could modulate the power to not cut peoples fucking limbs off. Obviously I was uninformed, which is my bad
>>29764885In all fairness, you guys fuck yourselves over worse than they do.>>29764894Yeah, this is the last one, because you do have a point and I'm getting tired of this shit.>>29764915>>29764885>>29764865>>29764835>>29764814>>29764813>>29764805>>29764792Let me make one thing perfectly clear, this is the LAST time I am retconning your mistakes. From now on, I don't want to hear "But I voted against that!" Whichever one gets the most votes is the one we go with, that's the system. Consider this your warning>Any more questions?
>>29764894Haha, just suck it
>>29764861It's pretty indicative of the issues here that I couldn't tell you weren't serious, because in my mind that's totally something you might have done.>>29764865>>29764894Infraction of Global Rule #3.
>>29764861Just put it to a goddamn strawpoll already and just end this bullshit. Shit like this is what pisses everybody off.
>>29764956You could have, but you have to let me know when you do that. When you say "use this attack" I assume you mean use it at the level of power you normally would. If you want to hold back with it, I need to know.>>29764946Decent>>29764978It's not my fault
>>29764957I think it wasn't clear before to many just how dangerous ki strands are. The idea that they just grab and burn is popular. Hopefully that won't be in error again.
>>29764957Can you link to the posts voting for the ki strands idea? I didn't count more than two votes. Also, I came in late to the party after Ki Strands was long established, but maybe we could get a pastebin of all our signature moves and their effects? I figure the people voting on Strands probably don't see them as razorwire so much as ropes.
>>29764957Your 'first to three' rule is fucked and needs to be dropped. At least don't let bullshit like this keep happening.
>>29765008Som I've been slacking on the pastebin. can I get everyone's power levels?>>29765043I'll also add this to the pastebin
>>29765008When we want to grab something with Ki Strands, and not explicitly damage/cut, especially it is a friend, you could assume that we aren't going all out.
>>29765008Well we will definitely keep that in mind. Thanks SOM, I certainly appreciate it lol
>>29764957No problem. I was just saying we need to be more careful in our wording so we don't give you the chance to make it bite us in the ass. specify power levels of attacks and that shit. make our intention perfectly clear. That way, if you have frank do as we say and it STILL bites us, we can't bitch.
>>29764957Take a look here >>29764956The "first to three" system is a problem here, because not everyone voting knows what they're voting FOR. Possible solutions include posting an up-to-date pastebin with outlines of what our attacks do, and possibly a rough guideline for determining how drastic the effects of differing power levels can be, or modifying the voting system to one that encourages more well-considered responses.What is NOT a reasonable response is getting pissy at us, or taunting us by claiming that writing out the results of a poorly-considered choice will be "fun".You have a strong tendency to work against your players. I'd consider remedying that.
>>29765008You were feeding the fucking flames with >>29764741 It's not all your fault, but it sure as fuck half of it.
>>29765085A link should also be posted in each OP so that new players can figure out what the fuck they're doing.
>>29764957last one?lol okwe've sure never heard that beforelookin forward to seeing those words again next time
>>29765043That seems reasonable.>>29764300>>29764296>>29764255>>29764236Ki Strand votes>>29765071I usually just go with whatever gets the most votes anyway>>29765085You: 38,000,000 Vegeta: 34,000,000 Salta: 30,000,000 Spina: 30,000,000 Fita: 30,000,000 Raditz: 20,400,000 Nappa: 14,000,000 Selri: Unknown until recovery Collie: Unknown until recovery Bardock: 28,000,000 (dead) Kayle: 6,000,000 Portan: 4,600,000 Bael: 4,800,000 Brola: 4,200,000 Erica: 8,000,000 (dead) Blaine: 3,500,000 Goku: 19,000,000 (dead) Ragus: 4,000,000 (dead) Onia: 6,000,000 Fluffy: 5,000 Android 17: 3,000,000,000 Android 18: 3,000,000,000 Android 16: 5,000,000,000 Bulma: 10 Chi Chi: 1,500>>29765144Yeah, that was stupid of me>>29765180Have fun
>>29765180Go die in a house fire.
>>29765199What are Bardock and the others doing in the afterlife, are they all on grand kais planet fighting?
>>29764967Reminding Som of rules he laid down in previous threads and asking him to stick to them is shitposting? Kill yourself. 4chan will be a better place.
>>29765180Fuck off mate
>>29765124Fair enough, and your idea is a good one>>29765107Sounds good>>29765105Lol no problem>>29765030I'm not sure why that idea is so popular considering how many people you've dismembered with that attack>>29765248All kinds of stuff, anon, all kinds of stuff....>Any more questions?
>>29765253Yes, you are shitposting. Each one of your posts so far, including the one I'm replying to, has been pure, weapons-grade flamebait, which when posted outside of /b/ is considered a violation of global rules. The more you know.
>>29765375this. A thousand times this
>>29765309Maybe OP image should be a picture of Frank blending Dodoria's insides with the ki strands? Of all the things I've suggested in this quest, that was my finest hour. It also illustrates the point nicely.That and making powerlevels less bullshit and more of a predictable matter of "we are X% stronger, so let's not use ki strands" should help prevent future teamkilling.
>>29765478That would be easier if everybody didn't want me to put a number to everything. If I could just say one character is a lot stronger than the other, it would be easier
>>29765309Did we ever unblock the use of vegetas fleet?
>>29765583You could assume that Ki Strands isn't being used to full power in certain situations
Thread is archived, so vote it up if you enjoyed it.http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html>>29765583So SOM from what you said previously, we can in fact use ki strands as only ropes. PROVIDED we are very clear in our wording that we are lowering the power of them so that they will not cut them? If that is the case, how would you suggest we word that? Id prefer NOT to fuck up like this again.
>>29765375It's just a darn shame that people that matter don't consider opinions that aren't yours flamebait, huh? If only it weren't for that, 4chan could be your perfect little hugbox! How unfortunate!
>>29765583Now we're getting into something crunchy. The issue here is that there are several groups here: the ones who are clueless, the ones who like having numbers but have no idea what they mean, and those who just have a good sense of where we're at relative to our opponent and really need no help. For example, we have the fight now, the fight with Fita, and the fight against 18 in SKKx3. Frank nearly chopped up his friends because the first three voters likely belonged to the first group: they may well have not realized that we had an 800 million advantage on either of them. In the last fight with 18, I'm really thankful people just went with my vote to throttle back our punches and to not use our ki armor against her. Because either a lot of people didn't do the math and see that we had a 1.8 billion advantage, or had no idea exactly how insane a gap that was. We could have very easily killed her. As for Fita, you TOLD us we were stronger, and we still ended up voting for a thing that killed her.So you should probably provide a power difference at the start of a fight, since that's something a character like Frank could probably sense fairly easily, and give an explicit statement of how much stronger/weaker we are. Hopefully that will improve on either one alone.
>>29765583http://pastebin.com/EBPnZfRzUpdated with power levels and Frank's moveslet me know if im missing anything
>>29765874Typo on Vegeta's PL. That should be 34 million.
>>29764624Actually, thinking back to this, any votes for ki stranding should be ignored outright. Anyone voting in good faith in the next thread should be able to remember this for less than 24 hours. Meaning that anyone voting for an option that will obviously kill 17 and 18 is likely trying to fuck with the rest of us.
>>29765975fixed it. accidentally put his power level for his age
>>29766695Need to have "able to go super saiyan 2" for frank, and bardock can also go super saiyan now
Thank you people for learning how to archive.