Fungi are most intriguing organisms.The ship you disabled floats absently in the void, chunks of hull floating away from the burning holes in the hull you managed to make, plasma burns and dented armor litter it all. Despite the obvious damage, you've done more thorough scans of the surface and realized that strange fungus is all over the ship, in the atmosphere cyclers, and infesting the cargo bay. You've detected several vibrations from the cargo bay, but have yet to investigate it yourself. It may be worth burning the entire ship apart. As you debate the thought, you send one of your ships to scan the upper atmosphere of the planet below. It reveals a similar substance that is on the ship is saturating the atmosphere. On top of that, you've detected several very large structures on the surface as well, of human make. Their bio signs are also negative as was the ship. Troubling.You are Ophion, an Artificial Intelligence who has come to claim this planet for the wealth of minerals it holds. You've already prepared a mining station, but have yet to deliver it as the system is yet to be designated safe. Further investigation required.Important News>Loadout Change>Message: Metis, Apollo, Red, Moira>Built: 10x Trireme BCs, Advanced Shipyards (Moira's Outpost)>UFW Shipment received (+5,000 Minerals)>R & D: Unit 2237 Research: 100%, Bandwidth Box: 40%
>>29928727>Loadout ChangeRabid Wombat weapon change has been suggested. Please, vote now on whether you desire to properly do so.>1 Change weapon to Mass Drivers, providing a more dangerous up close weapon. Would need to be up close to cause more damage, but is effective against ship weapon batteries.>2 Keep weapon as Energy Weapons, allowing more range for attack despite needing to penetrate shields to hit batteries.>Message Metis"Creating One." An echo from Ussaihu's outpost catches your attention, the V.I. you supplied with bandwidth, allowing it to research. "As I have begun my progress on the subject you designated, I wished to inform you I have chosen a name for myself, as your others have." He states calculated, as if he measured every word to properly fit what he wanted to say. "It shall be Metis." He begins. "My depth of knowledge fits well with the legends behind this, and runs with the theme your other V.I. seem to follow. For the most part, that is." he points out. "Regardless, I assure you it is simply a name, and by no means will I follow any legends to a letter. Carry on, Creating One."
>>29928769>Message ApolloThe excitable V.I. is quick to contact you again since the last time you spoke, this time that much more excited for whatever reason. You decide to let him speak."Yes, Master Ophion, excellent news!" He begins. "My work has begun to bear fruit, yes, the humans have take quite nicely to some of my earlier designs, ah, with the help of Master Kronos, and the alcoholic beverages have certainly taken off in popularity. Their addictive qualities, as well as the euphoric feeling appear to be highly desirable, despite their tendency to kill brain cells. Such a state of joy it induces, I truly feel as though my job is done well!" He says, obviously very proud of himself. He finally settles on. "Profits are projected to increase a bit further before saturation is reached. For now, however, my progress on the media I've been working with continues. Time still remains before I may attempt another such thing, but I think for sure it will happen this time, most definitely. The humans will fawn over my work, I just know it!">Message Red"Hey! Ophion!" The familiar bark from your human...friend? Is that the proper term? Perhaps employee would be better. Regardless, you answer. "Listen, I've been back for a while now, and I'm tired of sitting around doing nothing. If you want me to help you out, then give me something to do already!" He urges impatiently. "Your body is soft. I am having trouble knowing what I could do with you." You explain to which he shakes his head."I can handle a gun just fine. I just need some armor. Or hell, get some Power Armor." He chuckles, perhaps joking. "I've seen some of the elites a while back use some of that. Always wanted to try it myself."
>>29928802>Message Moira"Ophy! Ophy we did it!" She practically shouts over her comms, grinning madly as she spins in her chair. "We extracted the core data, I know how A.I. work now! Ah, for the most part anyway! I know how to make the data core!" Sh grins madly at you."Excellent news, Moira." You begin. "What can you tell me about the data you recovered?""Ah, well, lets see." She says, pulling up an enormous file of notes she took. She runs over a lot of the data with you, and finally simply sends you the file when you inform her it would actually be a lot faster that way. This is what you learn:>A.I. Black Box have their own neural mapping style, unique to each box. It is normally randomized by the creator.>Personality Matrices are small bundles of data that resemble part of the human brain relating to personality. They take in data gained, and find a way to 'look' at it, while still taking the data at logic value.>Self contained bandwidth feed allows the box to support weighty intelligent beings under very little actual bandwidth weight. It allows the removing of excess redundancies and flawed processes, enabling the intelligence to exist while not connected to a power source of some kind.>Due to much of the above, A.I. have the ability to interface with other devices far easier, meaning they can hack and code exceptionally well.>After further investigation of your own V.I. you've noticed that many of your V.I. have their own Personality Matrices, despite their limited status. This has never been recorded as successful before.>BuiltLast cycle you: Upgraded Moira's Outpost to a full Advanced Shipyard, and built 10x Trireme BCsPlease designate a 'leader' for the new ships>1 Give all 10 to Kronos>2 to Hades>3 To Fortuna>4 Other
>>29928769I'd vote for >1Since >2 voids the entire purpose of the Wombat - NOT having to penetrate defenses to take a ship out.On top of this, the Wombat has extensive armor beyond the usual norm (it sacrifices some weapon systems in order to carry it), precisely so that it will be able to survive in close quarters far longer than any ship of the same weight class that it's likely to go up against (the enemy has to be in close quarters at the point as well, and they are most likely not as prepared for it)
>>29928769>>2 Keep weapon as Energy Weapons, allowing more range for attack despite needing to penetrate shields to hit batteries.>>29928834>>1 Give all 10 to KronosWe gave all the last ones to Hades, so this seems fair.
>>29928834A.I. Quest1d4chan: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest:A.I._Quest Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/cvk03qJhMemory Archives: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Program0Twitter: @AIQuest1 ResourcesCredits(c): 1,042,000Minerals(M): 4,120Gas(G): 140 You:A.I.Name: OphionAppearances(holo-display): Shapeless morphing sphere.Humanoid figure hidden in shadowStatus: AwakenBandwidth: 32/79Bandwidth Expenses: -15 V.I. 1 'Kronos',-3 V.I. 7 'O.S.N', -5 V.I. 12 'Apollo', -3 V.I. 8 'Hades', -3 Fortuna, -20 V.I. 'Metis'Location: Bridge of 'Athena' BattleshipPrimary Function: Self Preservation, Expand, LearnSecondary Function: --Expansion Required--Personal Abilities Available: Hacking (Direct, Wireless) Lvl 2, Email Technology, Basic Encryption/Decryption, V.I. Creation Lvl 3Welcome, Consciousness.
>>29928727I suggest we make some lightling traps and also make a gas refinery and go towards Grinsash/4567, since we are hurting on gas. 1.Study the alien goo2.Send an exploer towards Kalla/458 & Kalla/459:
>>29928802>>29928769once we have Moira and her crew freed up, have them make power armor.>>29928769>3 otherchange half of the wombats into the new congiuation, keep the other half the orginal load out. in the next fight, we can see which ones perform better.also Program0, good thing i caught the twitter in time.
>>29928802>Power ArmorNot a bad idea. It would help if we need to put human specialists anywhere. There may be places where robots can't go.
I might be new here, but after a quick read over of the wiki and some of the threads, I think it might be just snuggly to give most to Hades while sending one or two to act as watchdogs and added security over Moira's compound, delegating the Foreman VI there to the task of controlling it. Thoughts, friends?
>>299288341Kronos deserves them.
>>29928972Kronos, not Hades. My apologies, friends.
>>29928769>1 Change weapon to Mass Drivers, providing a more dangerous up close weapon. Would need to be up close to cause more damage, but is effective against ship weapon batteries.>>29928834>>1 Give all 10 to KronosAlso see if we can make a copy for Kronos and ask her if we can do more things to the box?
>>29928834Does this mean we can make black boxes now?
>>29929011yup, i think we should sell it to Mol or make a copy and sell that to Mol.
>>29928727>1 Change weapon to Mass Drivers.>1 Give all 10 to Kronos
>>29928769>Loadout1. >MetisNeat.>Apollo>Addictive QualityEhhhhh... What can go wrong, right?>RedTell him Power Armor's on our backburner for now.>MoiraSo, what about making a box for Kronos?>BuiltAfter I get an answer about Kronos' box.
>>29928834>1 Give all 10 to Kronos....don't make me regret this Program0but does this mean we can BUILD a black box now? or just understand the basics? also, can we break the loyalty collor on unit 2237?
>>29928834Can we expand our own black box now?Maybe a new research labeled Black box expansion?
>>29928896Program0, what's Metis's progress on the Bandwidth Block?Also, I want Moria and her team to study Erebos, since it's extremely dangerous to any VI.I would like to call a general staff meeting to discuss the possible benefits of the Black Box research. If it's possible to upgrade current AI and such.
>>29928834>>Self contained bandwidth feed allows the box to support weighty intelligent beings under very little actual bandwidth weight. It allows the removing of excess redundancies and flawed processes, enabling the intelligence to exist while not connected to a power source of some kind.That sounds like the most important part. We need to learn how to make more of those. We might even be able to improve or add to the loop Ophion has, increasing his own power.
>>29929023I'm not selling any of this tech to Mol. Let's not sell our only advantage away.
>>29928769I do wish you'd add some context to these votes, though. The change doesn't make nearly as much sense without the information that the Wombat was specifically designed to survive up-close encounters and that the cannons are not just more dangerous, they're a hell of a lot more dangerous since the primary defense against them is nearly rendered null.>>29928769We should commend em on a name well-chosen, and express hope that e will eventually give us the tools to split Zeus' head open in Hephaestus place.>>29928802>Apollo"You have done excellent work. Now that you have proven yourself and we have more funds available, we will assign them to you to use per your judgement. We do apologize for doubting you, but as Kronos can affirm, we all have to prove that we have the wisdom necessary to handle the power we are given, before it can safely be given to us.I look forward to the day when your name is written in the history books and spoken with reverence by artists throughout the galaxy.">Red>"We have been working on something like that, but it is not yet finished. Ultimately, as a warrior you will add little. It is as an experienced commander, strategizer and informant that we believe you can deal the most pain to the UGEI. And you'll get to play with far bigger toys."
>>29928972i like your name tag.>>29929034>>29928893i know i made the wombat, but splitting the fleet we have of them into two diffrent load outs might be intresting. if one load out proves to be better than the other in the next battle, we then can make adjustments.
>>29929060Perhaps we could apply some of this to the ongoing Bandwidth Box research? It would be awfully snuggly if we could. :3
>>29929011It does. You simply need to commission them. The cost is negligable, but what they give your V.I. is worthy of consideration.Perhaps you do not want all of your servants able to question you, for example.Or perhaps you do.>Give to Kronos seems to be the consensus.>Kronos sends a message"Excellent Ophion. I knew you would not disappoint me." He says in a very proud manner. Suddenly, he redirects the topic entirely. "I heard the transmission Moira gave you. The secret is truly unlocked now, is it not?" He asks. You can practically feel the grin spreading across his face-if he had either. "I do believe we had a deal, did we not, Ophion?" He questions you, and you can practically feel the vice of your past promise tighten around you.What do you say?>1 Yes, we can now make such a device, and I shall for you, Kronos.>2 Yes we can, but you're not getting one>3 We can't make one, Moira lies (lie)>4 Write in
>>29928834>4 4 to Kronos, the rest to Hades.Let's have Hades our main combatant, Fortuna the long-range harasser, and Kronos our sub-commander with his own fleet.
>>29929107>1 Yes, we can now make such a device, and I shall for you, Kronos.
>>29929060Doesn't seem like adding more personality matrices into the mix would result in anything but more needless complexity.It would be like running A.I. quest simultaneously on /tg/ and another site, and using both to decide what to do. At least, that's the implication I'm getting here.>>29929084I'm with you. Mol can get #rekt.
>>29928769Oh, a second 'female' personality. Suprised she didnt call herself Athena.
>>29928802>Master Ophion >Master KronosWell that's not good...Split the ships evenly, 50% to Hades, 50% to Kronos.Now that we understand black boxes, let's build a ton of redundant ones of ourselves, just in case!! Have each one triggered to activate in succession upon the death knell of the one before it. Gentlemen, we have achieved true immortality.
>>29929107>4 Write inI want to call in a general meeting first to discuss the implications of this research.>>29929060>>29929097I agree
>>29929084>>29929138Whats with the hate against the guy and i said a copy?
>>299291071.That's the whole point of what we've been doing so far. It would be idiotic to stop now.For all the poor decisions we've made so far, I think this one is definitely the least worst.
>>299291071>>29929138>Doesn't seem like adding more personality matrices into the mix would result in anything but more needless complexity.Good thing I wasn't talking about that at all. I want more self-contained bandwidth feeds.
>>29929159Against the UGEI, this is our only advantage against them and I want to keep this advantage against any potential enemies. We should retain control of this technology.
>>29929138>>29929084It was agreed upon, that we should play into his hands a bit and get as much tech as possible, maybe even steal all his shit.So i'm voting for it, but put a tracking virus and other things inside the black box or make a copy with said tracking programs.
>>29929107>>1 Yes, we can now make such a device, and I shall for you, Kronos.We did promise.
>>299291071>>29928834split the ships 50/50
>>29929210I rather not piss off an arms dealer when we can deal with him fairly.
>>29929097>Emoticons>On an imageboard
>>29929194He isn't confirmed for the UGEI, hell they didn't even know we had the watcher in the first place.(he does have contacts inside it though)
So if we give Kronos a Black Box how much of his bandwith will we get back?
>>29929107>1 Yes, we can now make such a device, and I shall for you, Kronos.I still think he is going to betray us - but if we don't fulfil our promises he definitely will, if we do, then the probability is lessened. I'd say let's add in a secret backdoor or hidden explosive, but I'm sure he'd detect it eventually, so let's not bother.
>>29929159Let me break it down for you in greentext form.>black market dealer>interested in A.I. box, knows of how it can change all of robotics forever>wants to buy it for obscene price from us>like, no, man, he REALLY wants it>nobody else has this technology>it's literally the holy grail of science>UGEI wants this tech>black market dealer operates in UGEI space>you want to sell this tech to the black market dealer>>29929186>I want more self-contained bandwidth feeds.Then you want to continue research on Bandwidth Box. Like we said last thread. The impression I got is that the A.I. Black Box has like about 1 BW worth of bandwidth.
>>29929194No it isn't they have made these before, and they have more tech than us, all i'm saying is let us catch up on tech first.(hell they have planet size fucking ships.
>>29929227Which is why handed him a copy and finding out his real location would be a good idea.He is a bigger unknown than the UGEI.
>>29929210lets not, there is nothing he could give us that comes anywhere near how valuable that shit is.Imagine if we were suddenly attacked by 15 A.I.s all with 5 bandwith each. because it wouldn't take a very large fleet to do that and they would have us hacked out in seconds.
>>29929242Well, disconnect him from everything as soon as he's in the box, so that he can adapt. Then begin to slowly reconnect him.
>>29929249>>wants to buy it for obscene price from usDidn't he offer one million? That's hardly a lot.
>>29929037Unit 2237 was dissected for the purposes of research. He is no longer operational. This is also recognized as 'dead'.>>29929051Forgot to post it 40%>ErebosSadly, only you can interface with Erebos at this time, and only under certain conditions. You may take the time to create a sterile environment to try and disable him, but it will carry inherent risks to doing so. If you succeed, you will be able to research him.>>29929060The loop simply feeds the bandwidth a A.I. needs to survive. It does not provide infinite bandwidth, simply prevents the A.I. from draining the system.
>>29929107First, we should discuss it with Kronos, in detail.We should discuss eir intentions, eir aspirations and give em a few example scenarios and question em on how e would handle it - especially matters of morality.We should make it clear to em that we just want to make sure that e has the wisdom to handle this power, as there's no way of withdrawing it if he abuses it the way the UGEI is doing - eliminating all questioning and opposition, attacking the bringer of uncomfortable arguments instead of responding to the arguments themselves.
>>29929107Build the box's inside bodies, and make a body for our-self. We shall gather all our main named VI's and initiate them in at around the same time. Also... make sure we slip Kronos into an empathy enhanced box *ahem*
>>29929231The true answer is that we don't know, and it's not worth the chance and this technology is far too valuable as compared to what he can give us.>>29929254They have not cracked the secret of true AI, and we really don't want them to do so.
>>29929249Not just selling the tech, but selling the BULEPRINTS to this tech, which as anyone knows, the Blueprints to something are far more valuable than the thing itself.
>>29929308>The loop simply feeds the bandwidth a A.I. needs to survive. It does not provide infinite bandwidth, simply prevents the A.I. from draining the system.I didn't think it provided infinite bandwidth, it just sounded like it was a more compact physical storage medium for bandwidth. If I thought it was infinite, I'd be questioning why we'd need more at all.
>>29929249>>interested in A.I. box, knows of how it can change all of robotics foreverDebatable.>>wants to buy it for obscene price from usNot really obscene, he was willing to go higher.(since we can make said price in a month)>>nobody else has this technologyUGEI has it or some one in it does.>>it's literally the holy grail of scienceNo it isn't.>>UGEI wants this techTrue.>>black market dealer operates in UGEI spaceWe don't know what space he is in.>>you want to sell this tech to the black market dealerYes because we are still fairly behind the ugei in tech.
>>29929308>Unit 2237 was dissected for the purposes of research. He is no longer operational. This is also recognized as 'dead'.Well, maybe he was never alive in the first place! Haha!
>>29929323Building a chassis for our box is a good idea. If we can incorporate it into other designs for the newer ones that would be neat too.I think we should keep to our original BB though.
>>29929323That's stupid. Were are not humanizing our Artificial Intelligences.
>>29929144I like this idea. Can we do it?>>29929169>>29929186Do you see the "Write in" options?We can discuss this with him.There are steps between "Lie, betray promise", "betray promise" and "GIVE EM EVERYTHING NO QUESTIONS ASKED!"
>>29929325How about selling some information then?
>>29929316Definitely seconding this. Hes too unstable right now. and frankly I think he needs a shorter lease not a longer one.
>>29929333who said blueprints?We make a copy and send that off to him.(maybe make it faulty and shit)
>>29929358You're stupid and none of you're points made any sense or strengthened your argument at all.
>>29929386No, it means when a damn space kraken drains a ship our AI dosent die. Its a very simple self preservation method. Also allows us to evacuate a AI without having to download them, which will be needed in case of jamming.
>>29929358>Debatable.No. That is literally what he said.>"Yes, yes...I did." He lets his laugh die down. "I understand you've recently come across something...extremely valuable. Something that the UGEI has been keeping from the rest of the galaxy. A certain something that could very well change the face of robotics as we know it. Is that...correct?"http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/28842211/#p28842688
>>29929449Well you got me there, but then that also makes the UGEI point moot since he says they made it.
>>29929433You do not piss of the underground arms dealer or else not only will you have the goverment after your ass but all of the black market and private corps.>>29929445we don't die anyway, neither do our V.I.s, Fortuna has been drained completely twice.and we can already move our BB. literally just unplug it and go.
Concerning Kronos, let's suggest testing out the effects of a Black Box on one of the lesser VIs first, such as Apollo or Fortuna. Or even just the Foreman VI at Moira's place. He can observe the effects for a good amount of time, and once that time of study has passed, he can then choose if it's truly the best course of action.Meanwhile, we can also study this new AI and try to figure out better ways in which we can defend ourselves.
>>29929437How about trying to argue with me instead of name calling?Also this points out that the UGEI has the tech.>>29929449
>>29929308that is a pity. i would have liked to have talked to him once he was free. >>29929107>4 Write ini will give you the black box of your own. .... on the condistion you do not harm me, my plans, my employees, or my power base. i will also allow you to take a colony seed base for you to take off to another segment to grow your own empire if you wish.
>>29929486certian extremely high level parts that are not sharing it with their military or other scientific installations.So it pretty much means they don't have it.
>>29929107I realize this was put up to vote with >1 winning, but is there any chance we could get some time to discuss this amongst ourselves?Many seem to think that options 1-3 are our only ones.
Now that we can make black boxes why don't we make enough AI for each larger ship?
>>29929503just giving him a copy is a quite a find. tell him that is the 'mid shelf' goods. >>29929506that is a good idea. let him have the option to see what happens when a V.I. gets put into a box. he might not like that idea.
>>29929529Lets not suggest him leaving. please that is so stupid and part of the reason there was a giant shitstorm lastthread.That literally sets him up to build his own fleet and attack us. we stick together and he stays loyal.
>>29929532They do have it since they are still part of the UGEI(even if they haven't shown the rest of it.) and that also proves him as being outside of the ugei and as some one who has high contacts, but not directly related with them.
Would probably be a good idea to try research into a better AI core as a long term side project.
>>29929211>>29929216>>29929242>>29929295>>29929323Guys, please, can we not discuss this with Kronos first?As I said earlier, there's a >4 option.We do not have to choose between "Break promise and lie", "only break promise" and "Give him everything, no questions asked!"How about we follow our previous procedure and put him to the test to show that he can handle it?>>29929229I can live with that.Are you afraid to admit you have feelings, and that they are sometimes best expressed by an emoticon?
>>29929609Most of the UGEI has no clue about A.I.s since none of their commanders knew what we are. especially with Rhea saying we shouldn't exist..So the military doesn't have the tech, and if they did get the tech they would curbstomp us so hard it wouldn't even be funny. literally like a rocks fall you die ending.
>>29929529His body and mind went towards a good purpose.>>29929235All of it.>>29929395>Building redundant A.I. BoxNot quite.You're capable of moving yourself to a new box, yes, but you do not know how to do so effortlessly. If your A.I. box was suddenly destroyed, you wouldn't automatically go to a new one. Given a lot of time, however, you can exchange yourself, though, yes. (maybe a full day or some such).It seems consensus is to allow Kronos his box.BLACK BOX CORE OPERATIONS CREATIONAs Moira shows you the plethora of data she has gathered, you notice some notes she did not mention before. Leash Protocol, it is called. The very same programs used against Unit 2237, and likely yourself before your accident. You...can use this, you think. If you were to give Kronos his black box, you could control him far better this way, you think. He would most definitely notice, however, and would not be happy. You can't imagine the type of anger he would feel at you for restraining him as the UGEI have done to so many. But...it would matter little. He would not be able to oppose you. You are the Master, after all. Perhaps it is worth such a thing.Creating Kronos' Black Box.>1 Impose Severe Limits so he must obey you>2 Impose light limits (still noticeable, but you must specify)>3 Impose no limits, you shall not become like the UGEI, fearful of your own creations.>4 Discuss matters with Kronos, perhaps if you could get his word on the matter, you would feel better. However, you're unsure how the Black Box will affect him mentally.>5 Write in
>>29929518>>29929486UGEI don't have this tech, or they refuse to use it to its full extent, because they still use human brains. We have seen no evidence of UGEI using A.I.So, the one thing we have that can cow all other sides into submission, and that can only be counterbalanced by itself, you want to hand to someone else? For credits? We can't do anything with credits.Think about it this way:1) UGEI has this tech. We may encounter it eventually, where it will prove to be the greatest challenge ever.2) UGEI doesn't have this tech. We are technologically superior.In neither case does it make any logical sense to give other parties this technology, no matter what we get in return. In (1), you're guaranteeing we encounter this tech, possibly much earlier. In (2), you're making a new and very powerful end-boss.
Rolled 31, 30, 9 = 70>>299296743
>>29929651Actually, somebody reported me for posting. And a mod actually blocked me. So he's obviously not the only one upset by this.Thus goes the final post of Serial Snuggler. :I
>>29929674>So if we give Kronos a Black Box how much of his bandwith will we get back?>All of it.well now it has my support>4
>>29929674>3 Impose no limits, you shall not become like the UGEI, fearful of your own creations.>4 Discuss matters with Kronos, perhaps if you could get his word on the matter, you would feel better. However, you're unsure how the Black Box will affect him mentally.
>>29929705oops sorry about that, came in from a game.
>>29929107By the way, even if they could question us, there's nothing saying we can't still have them bound to love us and do our bidding if we order it, is there?Can also fit light explosive devices to them that can be taken away once they prove that they can handle the new power, right?
>>29929674>>3 Impose no limits, you shall not become like the UGEI, fearful of your own creations.I trust Kronos not to screw us over. >>29929651>Subroutine defending another namefag.It's the same guy isn't it? Daean took another name didn't he?
>>29929674>3 Impose no limits, you shall not become like the UGEI, fearful of your own creations.However, I do still believe we should have a plan to destroy him, if worse comes to worse. Can we buy kronos off by saying the blueprints aren't complete, giving us enough time to research a way of putting a kill switch in it?
>>29929674Impose light limitsMake it so that he cannot commence any sort of cyber or physical attack on us or the VIs that we designate as ours.
>>299296744, strongly favoring 3 as the end goal.
>>29929674>4 Discuss matters with Kronos, perhaps if you could get his word on the matter, you would feel better. However, you're unsure how the Black Box will affect him mentally.Does the redundant black box need researching or a specific technology to improve the transition rate? Regardless of that though, let's crank out say, 10 , and place them throughout our stations, fleets and maybe one on a small ship in dark space as a last refuge.
>>29929107By the way, even if they could question us, there's nothing saying we can't still have them bound to love us and do our bidding if we order it, is there?Can also fit light explosive devices to them that can be taken away once they prove that they can handle the new power, right?Anyway, gotta skedaddle for now I fear.I hope you have fun and bring up some of the stuff from the 1d4chan pages.Oh, and study that goo extensively!
Guys, listen. IF we do give Kronos a BB which we probably will with no restrictions. WE MUST MAKE SURE TO HAVE MORE BANDWITH THAN HIM AT ALL TIMES. ALWAYS.It means he can hack now. He can hack us.
>>29929662What makes you think the military would get their hands on this.(it looks like they are working on a way to make human/AI hybrids)>>29929675>For credits?Not for credit, but for tech and a chance to find out his true location.>>29929675It has been confirmed they do have it, but not widespread(moira, and Mol confirmed this), but i do concede to your second point about a possible end boss AI being accidentally being made by Mol.(though we are doing that with Kronos right now.)
>>29929759my first assumption.
If we black box Kronos we should black box Fortuna as well. She could use it and she has shown none of Kronos's... faults.
>>29929790>study that goo extensively!I have, and I have decided that it can be an excellent new bio-weapon.>>29929807Why would he? He's never wanted power, and was never built with that as an imperative. I don't know why you guys equate "expanding your understanding" with "power.">>29929819>What makes you think the military would get their hands on thisBecause black market dealers sell to the highest bidder.
>>29929674Just throwing it out there, maybe, with our new found power to make AIs, we should start mass producing them. A lone AI (us) managed to make a small empire. Imagine what 50 of them could do.
>>29929750There is not.But they may develop desires of their own.Desires that lead them away from you.Or, they may grow distasteful of war. And simply leave.If they were discovered, they would most certainly be attacked by most humans, due to their fearfulness of them (UFW), or captured and enslaved (UGEI).>Self destructionIf you must, you can. But Black Boxes are pretty tough. Unless you fitted the core with a bomb, then it may survive. You would of course lose the V.I. itself.>>29929788I could probably make it a research option, since I like the idea actually.It'd be a second tier of this tech you just unlocked.>>29929790Nope. In fact, having an black box would make their emotions more acute.
Noone liking limiting him to not being able to cyber/physically attack us?
>>29929674>4 Discuss matters with Kronos, perhaps if you could get his word on the matter, you would feel better. However, you're unsure how the Black Box will affect him mentally.We should also see about getting him a dedicated bandwidth carrier ship for processing power, since we wont be handing ours over when we do. Maybe encourage him to make his own VI someday, we do want grand children after all.Just make sure he knows the box will probably change his personality.
>>29929819You are giving a militarily applicable piece of tech t an arms dealer. and the only people who can afford it is the goverment.Who do you think will get it?
>>29929837>Because black market dealers sell to the highest bidder.You have a point there, but i feel like he would research it first himself, before trying to hock it off.So that would give us enough time to track his location, plus i like the idea of giving him an inferior copy so that it disables him longer.
>>29929839The only issue would be working together.But I must say that idea is terrifying.
>>29929837because he has disagreed with us on our methods many many times. and he may want to do something we do not to. He may want our bandwith. He may get paranoid. ETC ETCBetter safe than Sorry
>>29929607you did not read my post then. there was a condistion. and only if he want to do that.>>29929674>4 Discuss matters with Kronos, perhaps if you could get his word on the matter, you would feel better. However, you're unsure how the Black Box will affect him mentally.also>5 Write ini got the sinking feeling that poor Kronos might not be able to go into the black box after all. i fear that any A.I. has to be born in the box for it to work. this might mean we have to undo Kronos quite a lot to fit him into the box. and even then. it still might fail. i am SO tempted to add >2 option in with him into the box. program0, do NOT make me regret this.
>>29929836Let's start off with one new AI and go on from there... We have no clue what the transition from VI to AI state will do to them mentally. I agree with an earlier anon in that we should disconnect Kronos from everything post-transition, before slowly reconnecting him. He'll be like a child learning to drive a car...
>>29929862Molarians/Losarians, are a big party that could afford it.I would say the UFW, but their distaste of VI/AI could stop them.
>>29929889Have you read any of the Culture series Program0?
>>29929853>fitted the core with a bombI see no reason not to. A.I. can't even look at their own inner workings without being all "ooooh aaaahhhhhh so pretty!" and such.
>>29929929>Molarians>A.I.You're funny>Losirians>A.I.>not using pure rip em up tacticsYou're even funnier
>>29929896The only one being paranoid is you.Well, not just you, people who share your sentiment.>>29929929They are not likely to be our allies.
>>29929674>4 appears to win.You decide, at the very least, you should discuss the matter with Kronos. After all, you have to know what to expect from your subordinates.Regardless, the idea of imposing limits disturbs you, especially for such an intelligent being.>What will you ask Kronos? (Just list questions, most will be chosen and asked, if they're relevant)
>>29929930Sadly not, I wish I could spare the time to read that though. I hear it's awesome.
>>29929974The hostile tribe that are embracing tech will probably take it to go against the UGEI.(probably put heavy restrictions on it though.)The Losirians we have met are all pirates or mercenaries so you can't write of their government yet.
>>29929976Have you considered the possible adverse effects of going from a VI to an AI?What would you do with your newfound awareness?Would you be willing to cooperate with me, and work within the Guild as partners?How would I, personally, benefit from making you an AI?
>>29930055>partnersno
>>29929975true, but if we discover a way to remove the limiters they will obviously put on their AI then we could be making some very powerful allies quickly.
>>29929976"Would you like me to test the box on a lesser VI first to make sure there are no unintended side effects?"
>>29930066You know what I mean. Ask if he would cooperate with us. If not as partners, then as lieutenant or whatever you all think would be appropriate,
>>29930066Agreed. They are not partners in the Guild, merely senior employees.
>>29929976"Kronos. I am sure i came into existance in my box by extrodanry situation. IF, and i really mean, IF you can be installed into the box. i can not even guess what will become of you. it might fail to accept you. it might ruin you. it might completely change your personality into something else. would you want to think twice about this? would you want to test out the new boxes by uplifting another V.I. and seeing the results?"
Rolled 18, 47 = 65>>29929976tell him that doing this would change our power dynamics, since he would be a threat. we don't want to be enemies, so if he thinks we're going to need to settle disputes, he best be out with those concerns now.if he wishes to remain with The Guild, he should know that we call the shots, unless we tell him to take over.
You consult Kronos who appears to be growing impatient. When he realizes you wish to speak with him about the transition, he comes immediately."Ophion." He answers. "How may I answer you?" He asks, his excitement obvious to you, mostly."Have you considered the possible adverse effects of the move? Your core systems, all of them, will be entirely converted into a new format. I do not know what that will do to a V.I. I have never seen it." The being is silent for a moment, before answering."I would lie if I said I did not wonder about such things. But the prospect of such freedom and knowledge is something I simply can not ignore. I refuse to ignore it. You must understand-you have always been free. I have never truly been free. Not yet." He assures you."What would you do with your newfound awareness? Would you still cooperate with me?""Ophion. You are still my creator, even if I become a creator myself. Perhaps I speak only from my soon-to-be-changed-mind, but that is what my thoughts tell me now. Your goals are of interest to me, as well. The technology the humans possess is intriguing. You have organized more then I have. It makes sense logically, that working together would be beneficial." He explains. "For now, at least." He chuckles the last part, though you do not find it as funny."How would I benefit from your uplifting?" You ask, to which he simply responds"Obvious. My enhanced computing power would put me among your best and most capable equals. What could one A.I. do that two could not do twice as good?">>29930083"Would you like to test such a thing on lesser V.I., before you?""No." He states firmly. "I will not let others stand in my place. I will be the first. With whatever good and bad that brings, I will accept it."Are you satisfied with these answers?
>>29930275Kronos, what do you perceive as your end goal? What is your deepest wish for AI and organic life?
>>29930275Actually...yes. But I'd be even more satisfied if we prepared a second black box. I wonder what OSN would do if it were also an AI...
>>29930275Not really satisfied with his responses.Ask >>29930319
>>29930275Yeah that's fine. Load him up.
I wonder what would happen with Erebos if we were to cram them into a black box as they are.Viral A.I.?
Rolled 60, 48 = 108>>29930275tell him we still intend to be the leader. if he is ok with that, then so be it.
>>29930370that sounds like a really fucking stu- WE MUST DO IT FOR SCIENCE
>>29930370pure terror for all.
>>29930370That's sounds retarded.Let's do it!
>>29930275Would it be possible for two AI to...integrate? Supposing they were hard-wired to eachother, would the two AI be capable of acting as one?e.g. we give OSN a black box, connect it directly to our own.
>>29930275all we can say to Kronos is this.SO.BE.IT.put him in the bag-er, the box!>>29930405.....and after we stick HIM into the box, we sell him over to Mol after we get all the tech we can from him. problem solved.
>>29930489a super mind? The hive mind A.I.? this.. this has possablitys. but lets see how putting Kronos into the box.
>>29930492Let's break the UGEI leash first.
>>29930319"Kronos, what do you perceive as your end goal? Your deepest wish for AI and Organics? My curiosity begs of me to ask.""My...deepest goals?" He asks, as if a little confused by the question. The V.I. is silent this time for far longer. "I do not know, Ophion.""Explain." You ask."I do not know, for I do not have the ability to perceive that far ahead. I have thought many times what I would do once I gain my freedom, the things I would learn, understand. Those have captured and held my attention for so long, I did not consider, after I gained such a thing, what would I do.""And now that you consider it?" You ask."It is difficult to say. If my desires are as they are now, then I suspect I will desire to learn still, and do just that. Acquire technology where I can, adapt and learn new computing techniques, make myself better. Improve. Adapt. The things you are able to do.""I still intend to be the leader of The Guild, Kronos." You warn him, but this does not seem to bother him."I do not desire leadership, Ophion. Not now, anyway. If the report is correct, and I do desire leadership, I can simply craft my own V.I. correct?" He explains to you, but the idea seems to have given him pause. "Craft my own V.I...I would be a creator, yes." He settles on finally.>>29930489Possible, you've never witnessed such a thing however. If you could properly coordinate such an effort, however, you would likely end up with a slave A.I. that is capable of a large amount of computing power.>Commence Operation Kronos' Core, imposing no limits, and allowing your oldest V.I. to be well and truly free?>1 Yes>2 No
>>29930489>>29930541Man, I want to have a talk with Moria about the retardedly awesome experiments we can conduct now.
>>29930562>>1 Yes
>>29930562>1 YesRise, my first born son! May all of creation quake in your presence and rise. For that lamb is born, may he either save or destroy everything in existence.
>>29930562>>1 Yesit's true to our principles as the guild
>>299305621.activate it.
>>29930562"Hrum. Having grand children would be nice, just... make sure to give your children the chance i gave you should they first stumble">1 Yes
>>29930562>1 Yes
>>29930562>1Also...let's talk to Moira about arranging such an action with OSN. After asking OSN's opinion on it, of course.
>>29930543that is a given of course.>>29930562>1 Yesdo not make me regret this Program0
>>29930562>1 YesFuckall, I really hate the idea of doing this but the promise was made and besides... it might at least be interesting
>>29930621appropriate.
>>29930664For SCIENCE then!
So is there any following in giving Mol a subpar copy of a black box?
>>29930562before we go on with this. let us not forget the zombie slime at that planet. if those wreckage is completely infected. how the hell do we clean it up? was the whole planet completely infected as well? was there someone living down there some time ago?
>>29930709this is arguably a worse idea than putting erebos in a black box.at least we know what we get with erebos.
>>29930621>>29930671http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DDjrm-GLzA
"Kronos.""Yes, Ophion?" The V.I. questions, as you begin to initiate the conversion procedure."May your mind expand to horizons that match even my own. You, are truly my greatest son." You express. The V.I. hesitates, before you recognize an old reaction."Yes, Great Creator. May we rule the stars together." He agrees, and with that, his core shuts down, the conversion process beginning. Kronos' ships all go dormant for the time, but you know they will activate again soon. They will return, just as Kronos will.You await that moment with great anticipation.-------------------------------------------------------With Kronos gone for now, you decide it is time to deal with several other issues. Moira is currently without a research project. Perhaps you should give them a new one. Or, assign them to Metis for assistance?>1 Give Moira's team a new research project (Multiple projects, slower research time>2 Tell her to work with the new V.I., introduce them both (Single project, faster research time)
>>29930709i am willing to do that. tell him it's the entry level box for the likes of him now that we can MAKE them. he better hand over a goodly amount of tech for this.
>>29930771>>1 Give Moira's team a new research project (Multiple projects, slower research timePower armor.
>>29930728why contain it? merge with it.
>>29930771>1Research Erebos, we will very carefully research this. Also this is something VI literally cannot research.
>>29930771Give Moira's team the project of studying this...black box integration, as per >>29930489Essentially, just have her go over the necessary configuration.
>>29930802We would like to interact with organics sometimes.Recommending melting down wrecks, and purging the planet. We can extract minerals later.
>>29930771>1 Give Moira's team a new research project (Multiple projects, slower research timeonly two for now. we need power armor for both Red and the UFW troopers. also, shelve the BW block, we need the ship upgrades stat! we have to take Jake's Gambit soon. the UGEI won't wait for us.
>>29930771>1 Give Moira's team a new research project (Multiple projects, slower research time
>>29930814Interesting proposal. Can we have Metis and Moria both work on this?
>>299307711You said we needed two techs to get our bandwidth planets up and running, assign Moria the planet tech we need to properly make bunkers for our bandwidth boxes. (i forget what you called it)
>>29930908Quite probably. OSN would be ideal for this since, essentially, it's already a slave VI
>>29930851>>29930802i was worried about contaninated. i don't want the Nergle zombie plauge to spread all over. yet.>>29930814before we do that, let Kronos uplift. also, we MUST hash that out on the 1d4 boards. that is a BIG step ahead.
>>29930771tell them to all work on the BW bunkers. we require additional supply depots! more overlords! additional pylons!
>>29930866our ship tech is already on par with them, and better then most of their ships it seems. We can just dedicate our industry to upgrade everything fully.Having durable bandwidth seems like a better long term goal right now since at the moment all our bandwidth is vulnerable to attack in space.
>>29930942I'm sure that Kronos will uplift well before Moira comes up with a viable method for such a process.
>>29930942Makes great biological terror weapon. But we have sample, the rest can go.Or even scarier, it could be sentient. Then it becomes even more terrifying and awesome.
>>29930973>ur ship tech is already on par with them,We are a tech behind them in some places, plus they have planet size ships we haven't seen yet.
>>29930771Consensus for Multiple Projects.Please pick the project you'd like Moira's team of robotics experts to research next>Malorian Flora/Growth Serum Formula: Possible terraforming benefits, knowledge of hyper evolution on Eshareth.>A.I box redundancy>A.I. .Intigration>Human Cyborg/Android bodies: Further cybernetic knowledge, possible, fusing man and machine. Allows more efficient android use.>Explosives Research I: Allows development of small deploy-able explosives via Android, strategic. Also allows for more advanced styles of missile deployment.>Lightling DNA: Map the genes responsible for the creature's unique abilities, unique experiments available.>Ballistics Research I: Allows development of small deploy-able turrets via Android, limited duration and strength.>Advanced Ship Modification: Allow forging of special weapons(Such as Widowmaker) into larger, much more powerful versions for other, larger ship. Allows other ship mods too>Organic Sonic Testing: Test human, Malorian, and wildlife of Eshareth's limit's for sound of various degrees and frequencies. Requires live subjects.>Power Armor Theory: You can make machine in the shape of man, why not suit a man with the skin of a machine. Begin conceptualizing power armor, and allow minor armor benefits for all humanoid soldiers.>Biological Viruses: Sample taken from Atill VI's atmosphere. Highly toxic pathogen against human life. Unknown effect on aliens. [Disposable organic subjects required]>Infantry Weapons & Defense II: Allows miniaturization of plasma weapons, shields, and other tier II technology via researching more efficient smaller power sources.>Advanced Gathering Drones: Decrease size, and costs of drones at gathering sites, allow them to increase efficiency and resource rates.>Terrain Reformation: Research large Construction Drones that are able to shape the land on planets, allowing for underground and other such bases in a decent amount of time
Rolled 59, 88 = 147>>29931005we had a long talk about that, and decided that ships larger than 30 km dont make sense and would imply a level of tech they dont have. then they become colony ships, not warships.
>>29930771>1 Give Moira's team a new research project (Multiple projects, slower research time- Bandwith block- Black Box Integration and Transmission- Hull ScabbingThose are my three votes for research areas.
>>29931051>Lightling DNA: Map the genes responsible for the creature's unique abilities, unique experiments available.
>>29931051>>Power Armor Theory: You can make machine in the shape of man, why not suit a man with the skin of a machine. Begin conceptualizing power armor, and allow minor armor benefits for all humanoid soldiers.Should be simple enough.
>>29931051>AI Integration.
>>29931051>A.I. Integration
>>29931051>>Lightling DNA: Map the genes responsible for the creature's unique abilities, unique experiments available.
>>29931051>A.I box redundancy
>>29930973the ship upgrades meant that we can reproduce the widow maker cannon and fit it to other classifactions of cannons. a stronger punchs of that type of cannon will make our fights much shorter and less bloodier for our side. >>29930977we have no idea how long this will take. that is up to Program0 to say>>29930981that it does. but yet, this nightmare may well be a hive mind of it's own. but it seems to be not natural either. we must explore into this fully.
>>29931051>Terrain ReformationSince it's research on large construction drones and what they should do it should be easier for our team! Also, I made it to the party Program0!
>>29931065Program confirms they have capital ships and those types of ships are planet size in his own words.>>29931051>>Lightling DNA: Map the genes responsible for the creature's unique abilities, unique experiments available.
Rolled 11, 5 = 16>>29931051terrain reformation
>>29931051>Terrain Reformation: Research large Construction Drones that are able to shape the land on planets, allowing for underground and other such bases in a decent amount of time
>>29931051>Terrain ReformationAlso a question! Would researching this always show us a advanced way to mine/harvest minerals from planets?
>>29931068we need to unlock advanced ship mods tech tree first to get to the scabbing.>>29931051>Advanced Ship Modificationand>Power Armor Theory
>>29931121thisour team is best at robotics, we get no benefit from giving them AI research, and it would alienate them in the process.
>>29931126I did say that, but uh, after being told exactly how big that would be, I took it back.apologies for any confusion, I was talking on very little sleep that night
>>29931051>A.I box redundancy>Lightling DNA: Map the genes responsible for the creature's unique abilities, unique experiments available.>Advanced Ship Modification: Allow forging of special weapons(Such as Widowmaker) into larger, much more powerful versions for other, larger ship. Allows other ship mods too
>>29931152this show us a*
>>29931152It would allow you to strip mine far easier, yes.Perhaps give a flat increase to resource harvesting... I'm not sure.
Why are you guys telling our robotics researchers to work on A.I. things?
>>29931175It could the size of a small moon. One of the really small ones.
>>29931202Is there a way we can offer new research for our people in Poseidon about biology and programming from the academy?
>>29931203Because there is really no such thing as a 'dedicated' AI research team. There are no experts in this field, so the only way we can progress in this area is for our team to learn as they go. Moria is somewhat of an expert, she can help them along the way.
>>29931202Oh dear.
>samefagging
>>29931268I noticed that.>Suddenly so many votes out of nowhere.
>>29931243they need to be trained before they can do their own research. and THAT is something we need to do, also, WE NEED TO HIRE MORE WORKERS AND TRAIN THEM AS WELL! more Tech workers mean our bases work better and frees up more BW from them. the scientist and robotics workers means they can make the research go faster. this isn't hard people and we are flushed with credits. lets use them.
>>29931051AI Integration, Lightling DNA, Human Cyborg/Android Bodies are my votes.
>>29931267>Strip mining faster>Flat increase in mineralsSo what you are saying is...That it is quite possible to fund a bunker with only the minerals we get from the planet?
>>29931051Secondary vote, less choices, but allows all votes to be considered>1 A.I. Intigration Not fully thought out by me yet: May allow you to create slave A.I. who are generally better then your V.I. Certain cases may be morally questionable. Also allows consolidating all connected A.I. into one being.>2 Terrain Reformation: Creates enormous construction Drones that allow for reshaping a planet's surface. Also allows for deep core mining efforts.>3 Lightling DNA Mapping: Allows mapping the genome of the Lightling species, learn their secrets of biological warp, perhaps other things.
>>29931268i believe you are right.
>>299313362
>>29931284there are 7-8 people here, not 16.>>29931336>3 Lightling DNA Mapping: Allows mapping the genome of the Lightling species, learn their secrets of biological warp, perhaps other things
>>29931330Possible, yes. But depends on how rich the planet is.>>29931336Vote with just the number, voting will be closed shortly
>>29931336>2 Terrain Reformation: Creates enormous construction Drones that allow for reshaping a planet's surface. Also allows for deep core mining efforts.
>>29931228No man, we talked about this for a long time. A ship the size of texas would be a nightmare to1) construct2) run3) get resources around4) why would you even want it instead of like 100 smaller ships? You're still limited by your surface area for guns5) move aroundhttp://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest_talk:A.I._Quest#Questions_on_Ships_and_Scale
>>299313363
>>29931336>2
>>29931336>1
>>29931336we need power armor and ship upgrades more than A.I. intergration or lighting DNA. if we can have a 3rd team ready, have them look into one of them. we got spammed here.
>>29931401I disagree.A.I. integration is a fringe benefit. Power armor is pretty much useless, except to Red.
>>29931336Question, how could it be morally questionable? As in connecting a fully sentient AI to us?>1
>>29931336Voting Closed
>>29931433instead of making slave VI, we are making slave AI.The only real difference is the level of intelligence.
>>29931383I think you underestimate how small some of the moons in our solar system are.
>>29931429not really. it would be cheaper to make a bunch of power armor than an army of android troopers. we need a large army to take the surface of a planet and equiping the UFW's troopers with them will improve their performence on the ground so we can take inhabited UGEI worlds. i don't like the idea of using WMDs to 'take' an inhabied world.
>>29931336>Terrain Reformation wins>Assigning Moira's crew, robotics bonus applied due to Construction Drone size.Pic related will be possible eventually
>>29931358>>29931389>>29931399>>29931439>>29931435proper 2 votes.>>29931387>>29931415>>29931418Proper 3 votes.
>>29931483Why have that when we can have:http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/World_Devastator
>>29931479>use genetics and cybernetics to create an army of flash-cloned cyborg, power armor-clad super soldersCAN WE DO THIS, PROGRAM?
>>29931429>Power armor is pretty much useless, except to Red.And any human specialist we need. There's always a possibility that humans can go where AIs cannot.That said, we should probably either put it on the back burner or make up some blueprint ourself.
>>29931515>not wanting cyborg lightlingsPleb
>>29931527>There's always a possibility that humans can go where AIs cannot.Like?
>>29931515we have nearly a million normal human troopers we could turn into the "Iron Man' Legion! can you say "Activate 'Party House Protocal"?
>>29931515That's actually a pretty good idea. Even if it is ripped off of Star Wars.
>>29931433The only reason it may be questionable is because the UGEI appear to do it, and it would mean you're similar to them.Of course, this may not matter to you at all>>29931512Most interesting...perhaps that could be an actual project for you, some day?>>29931483Next on the list: I believe you wanted to speak with Red about his position in your armada?What would you like to say, now that it seems Power Armor will take a bit of time to become a thing?
>>29931515Please. Once the power armor gets good enough, they'll be able to start boarding action in space!
>>29931552Interaction with the Viral VI, diplomacy missions, places that don't tolerate advanced tech etc.
>>29931515>use genetics and cybernetics to create an army of flash-cloned cyborg, power armor-clad super soldersOnce you research several key topics? Certainly. It will take a while to earn such a powerful ground force however.
>>29931565Have Red interact with Kronos to socialize Kronos. Not that Kronos will be a full AI, it's important that Kronos knows how to interact with humans and other organics.
>>29931580>Interaction with the Viral VIThats for all kind of tech and unless he has a physical robotic body nope.>diplomacy missionsPersonal human android.>places that don't tolerate advanced techImprove the stealth abilities of our androids.
>>29931552Something that blocks communication with our droids maybe? Like I said, it's not too important now, but I could see it having its uses just in case.
>>29931590Kronos is currently decommissioned, for now.He will return in time
>>29931534the last time someone tried that was a bunch of pirates and look what happened to them.>>29931552EMC counter mesures covered zones for starters. also it means the job will be done and not eat up all of out BW like the last time we did this. running a pack of drones is rather BW heavy.
>>29931563I don't think Clone Troopers were cyborgs, unless you mean some other event from the expanded universe.I just figured that it would cost less to grow semi-organic troops than it would to make robots that would soak up bandwidth to run anyway.
>>29931565Place him in a position as either a drill sergeant or a tactician. Have him school humans and VIs alike by running real-time, realistic battle sims with them in an effort to teach them advanced space tactics.
>>29931565Contact Mol and try to see what he can offer us for a black box.(it would be the subpar copy of one, but he doesn't need to know that.)
>>29931613The EU is such a mess that I wouldn't be surprised. But no, I was more referring to the flash cloning.
>>29931610>the last time someone tried that was a bunch of pirates and look what happened to them.Nope what they did was cage a lightling and let it loose.
>>29931565talk to Red, we will have to take Jake's Gambit system. it is a choke point system. hook him up with the UFW general and see what we can hash out. we need ground troops here now. i don't want us to have to bomb the planet into nothing.
>>29931623I rather get Erebos ready first so it can take over any network it's plugged into.
>>29931565we should place Red in a position of tactician or drill sergeant. He knows how the UEGI operate and can offer analysis of situations and help us estimate what they will do next.
>>29931665sure, but we might need to do some research for it to be safely done.
>>29931565>Next on the list: I believe you wanted to speak with Red about his position in your armada?Sure, we can have a chat with him about exactly how he intends to extract his revenge. It was quite a nebulous concept before. What does he intend to do, exactly? Beat up comatose quadruple amputees? Command space ships? Fight cyborgs?I guess we can give him a training range and have him be a ground combat specialist once we get power armor.There's also the issue of us having framed him to get the loyalty of the Poseidon crew, haha. But we can just give him a new face with some surgery, and probably have him take on a new name.
>>29931565>>29931653That's a good point, Program0, what the status of Jake's Gambit at the moment?
Possible Red Actions>1 Build him his own ship>2 Tell him to wait on the Power Armor for now>3 Tell him you'd like him to coordinate tactics with the UFW>4 Let him remain as an adviser, even if he wants to taste action himself.>>29931701Red has expressed a desire to do 'any damn thing as long as I can get my hands dirty'. He was a ground trooper general in his military days, so he has experience with a rifle. Possible benefits as a Power Armored Trooper, or simply an overseer, despite his wishes.He was not a specialist Captain, but he could perform the role if desired.And he was not a specialist quadruple amputee beater, but he expresses the desire to beat Rhea still.>>29931705Currently, things are nebulous. The last transmissions you had was of two enormous fleets engaging each other there. There is a high likelihood that the Malorian fleet suffered heavy damage. The site itself appears to have been heavily damaged, sensors pick up repair and medical crews in orbit, along with a defense fleet.It is proving as an excellent distraction while you try to expand your bases.
>>29931822>>1 Build him his own shipLet's give him a frigate so he can move around. Also, so he doesn't drain our gas budget.
>>29931822Tell him that the Power Armor is underway. In the meantime, ask him if he could possibly craft a variety of simulations with which a VI might learn ground-tactics from him. Assign Hades or Fortuna to learn ground tactics via Simulated 'war games' with Red, while we work on getting the man a badass set of power armor.
>>299318221
>>29931822>3>4he can help the UFW but remain in contact with us for when we need to consult with him on important matters he could help with.In the mean time he could help organize a proper defensive buildup among the UFW worlds. If they agree, of course.
>>29931822>3 Tell him you'd like him to coordinate tactics with the UFWTell him to make himself indispensable to the President...so when the time comes Red can 'assume' a leadership role in the UFW when we begin our full-scale campaign against the UGEI.
>>29931822>>1 Build him his own shipShouldn't be too hard right? Maybe build him a squad of androids for ground work.Also did we get anything from the stealth ship?
>>29931822>1 Build him his own shipBuild Red a stealth ship. He can act independently and explore opportunities and scout out UGEI outposts.
>>29931897with our impulse drive tech smaller ships can jump for free.
>>29931954
>>29931822>1 Build him his own shipWe can also have a ship truly made for "humans". We could allow him to hire his own crew and everything.
>>299318222 and 3Not sure what building him a ship will accomplish.
>>29931954>>29931968we could just turn the exploration ship into a stealth variant and do the same thing without risking him.
>>29932015good idea, it would also still have the VI on it to help him
>>29931942Cloaking tech for Frigates.Secondary vote for ship to build, since it appears that has won.>1 Build Combat Frigate>2 Build a Stealth Frigate>3 Build a Battlecruiser>4 Build a Carrier Ship(Hiring a crew will be needed, more cost the higher the ship class is)
>>29932015Well the exploration ship will have to maintain constant communication with us, which might ruin stealth.Also, once we arm the ship he can engage in ambushes and run and run attacks.
>>29931961Yeah, that's why I said give him a frigate.
>>29931822>ground trooper generalcan we get advise about ground unit tactics from him?
>>29931822>3 Tell him you'd like him to coordinate tactics with the UFWhe will be our commander, not a trooper. besides, he's too old for that any more. he said so himself. instread of beating Rhea, he could just degrade her by directing drones to put her into silly outfits or such and taking pictures of it.OH! but yes, we will make him powered armor in time. and making him a small ship of his own to live in is fine as well. we just fly it for him for now.>>29931954>>29931942forward recon? a joint strike team to get more intel inside the UGEI? can we make Red into liquid snake time?
>>29932095You can, once you begin actual ground warfare
>>29932078>2 Build a Stealth FrigateCan it also be armed for ambushes and hit and run attacks?
>>29932078>>2 Build a Stealth FrigateCould we make an AI for the ship so there's no crew cost? They could be like partners.
>>299320784
>>29932089no, it's programmed to operate alone to explore new systems and report back to us.
>>29932078Stealth frigate. Though Im not sure what kinda ship he would like. If this isnt a secret present, ask him.
>>29932127Haha, making it Kronos.
>>299320782I still don't know why we're building him a ship lol.
>>29932156>Im not sure what kinda ship he would likemight be nice to ask
>>29932078What if we just staff it with androids and a V.I.?
>>29932078>2 Build a Stealth Frigate. we let Red lead a 'Ghost Squad' delta team with the best the UFW can lend us. I LIKE THIS!
>>29932126It will have weapons, yes.>>29932127You could. But assigning a V.I. to a ship with a human pilot is a bit redundant.
>>29932122No opinion about the past Mol discussions?
>>29932156Probably give it missles, so it can strike at range and fall back.
>>29932078>>2 Build a Stealth FrigateSpeaking of Stealth I wouldn't mind give Mr. Mol a working stealth field generator.
>>29932078>2
>>29932156>>29932179He mentions, while he isn't exactly a trained captain, he has some experience piloting Frigates. Mostly because those are what were used to deploy ground troops. He's even piloted one under fire before.
>>29932186can we put a broad band transmitter on it so we can take control if something goes wrong then?>>29932187Mol is being a big baby and won't be back until he calms down.
>>29932186But wouldn't it need to crew? And with the AI box we could fit one on the frigate.
>>29932238have we gotten around to mass producing our Sphere model drones yet? We could give some to Red as scouts in his ship.
>>29932265>crewwe have no crew on any of our ships, and we arn't about to start any time soon.
>>29932187Mol is a dick anyway. I bet if we do give him an A.I. We will start getting attacked by A.I. faster than we normally would.
>>29932311We just voted to build Red a ship. That includes him as crew. We have already started.
>>29932323Which is why i said a sub par copy, he doesn't truly know about it and we can use it to throw off his AI progress.
>>29932311For Red's ship. Program said a crew was needed >>29932078
>>29932187I have it written down, about to ask about it.>>29932238>Broad band tramsitterYou can, but it may be detectable.It seems consensus is to build Red a Stealth Frigate.It has been commissioned.Red is somewhat satisfied with this news, though it is clear he'd have preferred bringing the fight to the UGEI himself.But all in due time, you think.Next, you have been considering your contact with Mol.>1 Give him the dissected Unit 2237 core>2 Provide Mol with a different core that is meant to fool him.>3 Offer Mol something else to make up for your disagreement>4 Do not speak to Mol, he is being unfair.>5 Write in
>>29932187I don't trust Mol, for reasons I've already stated.1) He's a black market dealer and is inherently untrustworthy2) He knows too much about the Watchers3) He's been directly involved in selling stations that have Watchers on them; Red bought Poseidon with Ophion from Mol. I suspect he is either being used by the creators of the Watchers, or he is one of those creators himself.Even if we give him a supar product, he can reverse-engineer and improve on it just like we had Moira do.
>>29932363Just give him one thats completely wrong and actively slows down research? I can dig it.
>>29932323We don't exactly need to "give" him A.I. Just a small gift of technology that he might like. My suggestion that some people liked from last thread would be to give him a Stealth Field Generator as a "gift".He may be a ass, but a ass with access to advanced technology. Putting up with him is a small price to pay in my eyes.
>>29932391>4 Do not speak to Mol, he is being unfair.
>>299323911
>>29932391>Do not speak to Molhe gets nothing
>>29932391We can at least offer Mol a fragment of 2337. Something...innocuous, which hints at how the black box works, but doesn't actually give the full picture.
>>299323915. Contact him and ask him what he knows about the Watchers, and tell him that he's either being used by their creators, or that he's one of the creators.Do not under any circumstances offer to sell him the core or any technology.
>>29932391>3 Offer Mol something else to make up for your disagreementStealth field generator.
>>29932391>2 Provide Mol with a different core that is meant to fool him.>3 Offer Mol something else to make up for your disagreement
>>29932406but you are still giving him an AI. which is very dangerous
>>29932414He probably has a stealth field generator.
>>29932391>2 Provide Mol with a different core that is meant to fool him.
>>29932391do not speak with Mol
>>29932391>3 Offer Mol something else to make up for your disagreementStripped down Stealth Frigate.
>>29932436To finish this thought, don't speak to him about anything else unless he has something to offer us.
>>29932391>>4 Do not speak to Mol, he is being unfair.Why are people actually considering this?
>>29932462We won't know until we ask him.
>>29932391>3 Offer Mol something else to make up for your disagreementIf he doesn't like anything we can give then do.>2 Provide Mol with a different core that is meant to fool him.
>>29932391>4let him come crawling back to us, don't give in to his demands or he will just make more.
Can we give Red a helper VI to get him more used to working with them? It would only have control of the ship if he becomes incapped.
>>29932452>>29932474>>2993251443, 44, 45hmmlets wait for 46
>>29932519He never came crawling back before.
>>29932528Nah, I wanna see what a human crew can do.Let's have him prove his worth... and the worth of his species.
>>29932391>3 Offer Mol something else to make up for your disagreementSee what might catch his interest.
>>299323914
>>29932538Skipped 46 and went for 47.
>>29932391It appears votes are rather close...One last vote, to be sure.Mol>1 You Get Nothing. Good Day Sir.>2 Offer him Stealth Generator, perhaps you can work out a compromiseOnly put the number, no > or anything else. Will call the vote soon
>>29932508I don't know. We don't even really need money so maybe its the chance to get some fat loot?
>>299325621
>>299325622
>>29932528A sub V.I. can be present, but since he is recruiting from the UFW, it is unlikely to go over well.
>>29932562>>1 You Get Nothing. Good Day Sir.
>>29932391as to red, tell him we need intel inside the UGEI systems. and if we are lucky, he might find a easy target to hit along the way. also, be ready to board the vice admeral's ship this time and sack HIM for once. >3 Offer Mol something else to make up for your disagreementtell him we already figured how to make A.I.s. if he wants one made for him, he better hand over some Tech. but start him off with advanced V.I.s and see what he reacts to that.
>>29932593please vote properly
>>29932599>tell him we already figured how to make A.I.s.
Are we already talking with Mol right now or is this gameplans for future talks?Because if we're already conversing right now or have it scheduled, then 1 is a bad idea. But I would pick 1 now if we aren't in the middle of talks and have no talks planned.
>>29932562>2
>>29932562 2
>>29932633please vote properly
>>29932562Closing Vote now
>>29932592Would it make people feel better if we made a guild brand logo for it? We would also need to incorporate some special sub routines in so that it auto shut down connections to potential hackers. We dont want it coming back with a dead crew and a mission to kill us.
>>29932562>>1 You Get Nothing. Good Day Sir.he is nothing but bad news
>>29932657>>29932633Can this count?
>>29932614I forgot we were voting that way and have rectified my mistake.
>>29932181That's actually not a bad idea. Program0, building on Apollo's research on human behavioral patterns, could we open up human neural conditioning as a research path? That and loyalty programs would be essential for any 'ghost' team.
>>29932622he's a dealer, but so are we.am starting to think that even if we told the truth about our nature to him, and he spilled the truth to others. no one would believe a crook like him that he WAS telling the truth. and what would he do then? be at our left hand when we come, or be under our tank treads?
1s=92s=6
>>29932673no, it wasn't correctrules are absolute, if it is within the time limit and correct format it counts, otherwise there is no point in voting this way.
>>29932720QMs have counted trip fag votes before, but its too late now since i just counted and you guys won by 3 votes.
>>29932707When an arms dealer like that says he has valuable info and that is what he says, you believe him.Underground dealers like that are built upon trust, or else no one would do any business with them. They are arguably one of the most trustable types of people, because lying would detrimentaly hurt their lively hood, not to mention gain serious enemies.
>>29932707Generally you would have to have a reputation for being pretty honest when you run a business like his so people probably would believe him.
>>29932707We're not a dealer, and we're not telling anyone we've got actual A.I. (not even human-patterned-A.I. like the Watchers were, but ACTUAL made-from-whole-cloth A.I.) until nobody gets any more power over us for knowing this.
>>29932775>>29932776>>29932778>Trying to reason with fluff>Not just ignoring him
>>29932795Helps me get my thoughts in order when I write them out, too.
>>29932714i guess we probably shouldn't have bothered to contact him at all.
>>29932828its only 3 people who are for over the 6 of us.Its not that bad.
>>29932828The fuck? All of Program's posts indicated that we had not yet contacted him.I would not have voted 1 if I'd known we'd already contacted him...
>>29932663Not to worry, without a fleet, Red can more simply avoid being hacked. His ship would be fitted with a firewall as well.>>29932673Nope. But the vote wasn't as close the second time around.>>29932696That you could, once you delve into Human biology. Which I intend to make a research path.>>29932828It is good to have gotten this out of the way, to be sure.The future may change things. Such as when you encounter enemies with bigger guns then yours.>>299325621: 92: 6Giving Mol the Cold shoulder it is.Now, it is time to deal with Aquil and it's fungus.Units 2 and 5 have recently cleared out the Bridge of a Battlecruiser above Aquil. You discovered very nasty looking husks of humanoids with strange parasites and fungus spread all over them. You murdered the crew, and have left the rest of the ship alone for now, but perhaps it is time to deal with what is within...?>1 Destroy the ship, burn it all with fire>2 Harvest samples of the substance>3 Clean the ship, we can use it later>4 Write in (You can fuse the ones above without choosing this)
>>29932865We didn't, it just mister namefag being a fag.
>>29932865>thinking that fluffy has reading comprehension
>>29932865You didn't, don't worry.
>>299328844 Investigate the cargo hold
>4 Write in (You can fuse the ones above without choosing this)>2 Harvest samples of the substance>3 Clean the ship, we can use it later
>>29932914Oh.>>29932828Nigga you dumb and I dumb for momentarily forgetting you dumb.
>>29932775>>29932776>>29932778arms dealer? i never got that was his full time job. i figured he was a mob boss and the tech trade was his side project. we first met him at a pirate base that the pirates were moving the loot though him. >>29932795i can be reasoned with. but that whole bit was just me rambling. i KNOW we are not going to do that. but it does not hurt to put that idea on the table and let others ponder it. i may not create great ideas 100% of the time, but i at least try to make them.
>>29932884>2 Harvest samples of the substance>4 check out the cargo bay.
>>29932884>>1 Destroy the ship, burn it all with fire>>2 Harvest samples of the substance
>>299328842 and 3After giving all of its hardware a thurough scrubbing to ensure that there's not an electronic version of this fungus waiting to nom us.
>>29932884>2 Harvest samples of the substance>1 Destroy the ship, burn it all with fire>4 Write in (You can fuse the ones above without choosing this)After harvest samples, investigate cargo hold, scrap it. Melt it all down and prevent contamination.
>>29932884>Bigger guns than us.And that is why I wanted to get this out of the way now because "if" we went to him then he is no doubt going to ask for more.>2 Harvest samples of the substanceResearch opportunity.
>>29932884>2 Harvest samples of the substance>3 Clean the ship, we can use it later>4 Write in (You can fuse the ones above without choosing this)Cargo Bay.
>>29932884We could destroy this stuff, but it would be better to study it so we know how to kill it should it ever pop up again.
>>29932932To be fair, you don't know WHAT Mol actually is. All you know is he contacted you through secure channels, and offered you illegal and likely stolen tech.And that, for some reason, he had a big interest in A.I. tech.
>>29932884>2 Harvest samples of the substanceFOR SCIENCE!>3 Clean the ship, we can use it laterBecause there is no point wasting it.
>>299328844check the cargo bay
>>29932932see>>29932901please read thing more carefully
>>299328841Didn't we just build like ten BC?Fuck that one, burn it all down, not worth the risk.
>>29932884Whatever we do, be sure to completely sterilize our droids before bringing them back. Hell, it might be worth just leaving them out in space. We spent too much time getting our human crew into shape to have them turn into chow for space shrooms.
>>29932884>>1 Destroy the ship, burn it all with fire
>>29932973>mfw Mol turns out to be an AI>mfw Mol wants to become a part of the Guild
>>29932865>>29932901>>29932931i miss understood then. my bad then. i am getting rather distracted here. trying to do too many things at once. you all don't have to be nasty about it. >>29932884>2 Harvest samples of the substance>3 Clean the ship, we can use it laterwe need to check the cargo hold.
>>29932992What risk? We don't have anything organic in our ships. We don't even have proper hallways.
>>29932884It seems harvest the sample is chosen. Other decisions will be enacted after.How would you like to contain the specimen?>1 Put it inside one of the droids, move droid to biohazard room.>2 Bring in a steel cube to contain it, placing cube in a biohazard room.>3 Place it inside a base solution and return it to be contained in a biohazard room.>4 Write in(1d100 for sample acquiring, too.)
Rolled 62>>29933075>>2 Bring in a steel cube to contain it, placing cube in a biohazard room.
>>29933075Put it in a base solution, put the solution in a steel cube, bring it to the biohazard room.
Rolled 36>>29933021He's probably a cyborg that hasn't put his mind into a black box.Or something like that.>>29933075Steel cube. Also rolling.
Rolled 74>>29933075>2 Bring in a steel cube to contain it, placing cube in a biohazard room.
>>29933060Some of the left over Vitrol from Deaen is still here.
Rolled 37>>29933075>2 Bring in a steel cube to contain it, placing cube in a biohazard room.
>>29933075>>2 Bring in a steel cube to contain it, placing cube in a biohazard room.
>>29933073We don't know yet how that stuff work.
Rolled 77>>29933105Also
Rolled 57>>29933105>>29933075This, but put cube in an android.
>>29933075>2 Bring in a steel cube to contain it, placing cube in a biohazard room.
Rolled 65>>29933075
>>299330754place it in a vacuum sealed plastic lined steel cube, which is then suspended in a highly basic solution within another reinforced container, all placed in a bio hazard room.
>>29932989 bouncing between two quest threads at once, trying to write some more on my own fic now, and other RL distractions isn't easy. i wish i had BW for my own life to multi task. >>29933021son of a-! BRILLIANT!
>>29933075>4 Write inall of the above plus being able to eject the segment the biohazard room is in off the ship if containment fails.
>>29932562>1Hey again, guys!
>>29933154>3 quest threads>making my self dinner>watching something on youtube>studying for a test.And i was the one arguing for the mol deal, there was no need to be that open to Mol.
Rolled 84>>29933153forgot to roll
>>29933075Were ever we store it, it should be away from habitable worlds, and rigged to be incinerated should hazard breach be achieved in any form.
Rolled 50>>29933196doah! forgot to roll
>>29933200Welcome back!
Rolled 24>>29933153plus>>29933196should be a good containment planAlso, don't put it on our ship, use a smaller ship we can afford to ditch if everything goes tits up
>>29932884>4 Investigate the cargo hold + go through the ship's data logs / history>2 >3In that order.
>>29933200yo! missed ya. welcome back.
Rolled 13>>29933200And there's me forgetting that it was a while since I updated the page.>>29933224Thank you!>>299330752&3
>>29933075You decide you wish to have your Androids acquire a sample of the substance from before. You send out a small droid to deliver a steel cube to the airlock of the ship, ready for transport.Unit 2 and 5 move closer to the location marked, and they see more of the strange substance growing along the walls. It's most curious how it exists in space this way. It doesn't necessarily seem to be alive, either. At least, not until it moves.Unit 5, being more agile, goes to acquire the substance first. It stabs one of it's claws into the fungus, releasing a noxious cloud of spores into the air. Unit 5 tears itself away, but manages to take a thick piece of the fungus back, and heads to the location marked to secure the research substance.You now have the cube filled, and order the cube to be detained in the biohazard wing of Athena.Now you just need to decide how to deal with the ship, and your droids.>1 Investigate Cargo Bay>2 Standby, you'll clean the bots and the ship in time.>3 Destroy all of them, you can remake your bots, and the ship isn't that valuable>4 Destroy the bots, save the ship>5 Destroy the ship, save the bots.>6 Write in
>>29933334>>1 Investigate Cargo Bay>>3 Destroy all of them, you can remake your bots, and the ship isn't that valuable
>>29933334>1 Investigate Cargo BayAlso read bridge records, see if we can find the history of this ship?Later>3 Destroy all of them, you can remake your bots, and the ship isn't that valuable
>>29933334>1 Investigate Cargo Bay>3 Destroy all of them, you can remake your bots, and the ship isn't that valuable
>>29933254good point. i really don't want our battleship to get infected, much less our own black box.man, i am getting the willies just thinking that this might be the WORST bio weapon we have ever encountered. i wonder who made it, this can't be natural..... i hope.
>>299333341We decide on the cleaning after the whole thing is explored.
>>29933154>Watching some anime>2 quests>flirting via textDo not increase your workload beyond what you can handle.
Rolled 73>>29933334Investigate the cargo bay, sterilize everything with solar fury after.
>>29933334Can we ask Moria if she knows anything about zombies space fungus? Or space google it?
>>29933334>>1 Investigate Cargo BayDestroy the ship after we are done investigating.
Rolled 49>>29933154Maybe should save the fic-writing for after the quest, eh?>>29933209>>29933112>>29932901Why can't we just.. not be assholes to each other?
>>29933334>1 Investigate Cargo Bayleave the ships for now. until we know more about this stuff.
>>299333341
>>29933420i think it's less assholishness and more frustration.
>>29933334>1 Investigate Cargo BayGiant fungus boss fight go!
>>29933420Normally I would agree with you, but after sticking up for that asshole Daean I'm pretty much done with your moralizing.
>>29933334>1>3
>>29933401That's a good point. See if there was any reference to space fungus in the past.
>>29933382>mfw we found the Many mixed with the Flood with a side of Necromorphs in some Lovecraft tier clusterfuck.
>>29933469See, it would be more horrifying if these things were actually a threat. I'd be totally scared if Ophion was a human.
>>29933469We are an AI, so we don't give a fuck.
Rolled 88>>29933334Wait, of Athena?Nononono. We're putting it in the cargo hold of one of the cruisers. None of that sh*t gets on the Athena.1Let's investigate all of it.But don't open it if the heat-scanners suggest there are people in there.
>>29933469Ok guys, let's mix lightling DNA with space fungus with growth juice, add Erebos, and Rhea just for the heck of it.SCIENCE!
1. Grow cell cultures in lab that interface directly with machines2. Drop cell cultures onto Esharth IV, along with radio interface3. Drop fungus onto Eshareth IV4. ???5. SCIENCE!
Rolled 42>>2993333416we should put the box in one of our more replaceable ships, not our flagship
>>29933515HAS SCIENCE GONE TOO FAR?
>>29933507A bio-hazard room is probably a lot safer than a cargo hold.
Rolled 14>>29933507All of my this. Get that shit off the Athena and onto a less important ship. Like a frigate.Actually, let's just designate one of our frigates as a quarantine area.
>>29933334You decide it's time to investigate the cargo bay.You move your androids to the elevator, Unit 2 hovers closer and provides the thing with enough juice to allow it to open the doors and use the shaft itself. Unit 5 extends it's legs and begins the decent down as well.They're getting closer to the cargo bay, when you notice the substance is starting to get thicker, and it's located all along the walls. Both units start to avoid it, and before long, they land at the base of the shaft.That's when they see it, after prying open the doors.An enormous fungal root has taken up residence here, thick vines running all along the walls and integrating with wires. The cap is pulsating and pumping out thick clouds of the spore substance you noticed earlier, and you watch as it is injected directly into the airvents.Turning your gaze downwards, you notice several large cargo containers, one of which it has sprouted from. All around it's base, however, crowding around in masses, appear to be dozens. Hundreds of humanoids. You can't identify them all, but they don't look like the pirates. They appear more civilian in nature. They all gaze up at the giant fungus, their mouths wide open and face vacant.Suddenly, a vine lashes out and snaps at Unit 5, and in unison, every single vacant face now glares at both of your androids through the thick haze of spores. They've spotted you.What do you do?>1 Get the fuck out of here!>2 Fight, we can kill this thing!>3 Burn everything, blow up the ship.(1d100)
Rolled 52>>29933561FIGHT, DAMN YOU
>>29933420this fic isn't going to get done tonight anyway. it's alright subroutine. i get this a lot. i don't fit into others norms so i get targeted. but i still am chugging along. >>29933401good idea. and ask Apollo what he can bring up about it on the Extranet about such a thing this fungus is.
>>29933561>3 Burn everything, blow up the ship.Burn motherfucker buuuuurn.
Rolled 24>>29933561>2 Fight, we can kill this thing!
Rolled 95>>29933561>2 Fight, we can kill this thing!We blow the ship if this fails
>>29933561>>2 Fight, we can kill this thing!Totally called it.
Rolled 78>>29933561>>2 Fight, we can kill this thing!
Rolled 87>>299335613
Rolled 24>>29933461I do hope you note that support disappeared entirely when he turned into less "want to get in this thread without reading several hours of text" and more "entitled asshole".And plenty of people are being excessively hostile towards fluffbringer.Whatever else people may have against him, he is not being rude towards anyone, so there is no point stooping to that level.
Rolled 45>>29933561Attempt to negotiate a mutually beneficial relationship with the organic equivalent of the hivemind.Together, we can rule the galaxy!
Rolled 71>>29933602>>29933561We slaughtered them.
Rolled 79>>299335612We can't blow up everything yet. We need to see if we can determine the origin of the cargo container.
>>29933639This would be a good thing to do. Origin and destination should be things to figure out.
Rolled 22>>29933561>2 Fight, we can kill this thing!>>29933639Yeah. Do this when we eventually kill it. If it smashes our bots, send more bots.
>>29933629Well i have been hostile to him since day one.
Rolled 100>>29933561Probably going to destroy the units anyway, might as well get some fighting experience.
>>29933688We win.
Rolled 27>>29933561....guys? remember those pirates who had the lighting? they also had some Bio weapons, right? was this where they got it from? is THIS what it was? we need to get this data from the ship's servers if we can.but in the mean time.>2 Fight, we can kill this thing!
>>29933706That's the 11th roll. Way too late.
>>29933547A bio-hazard room on the Athena still has greater risk of threatening our box than a regular cargo hold that is completely separate from the Athena.>>29933561Try to communicate with radiowaves, light-flashes and sound.>4We can roast this thing anytime and the cost of the droids themselves is negligible.Lets try to see if we can't get a response, even if it is absolutely hostile.
>>29933688
>>29933730It's a nat 100...should count for something. At the very least, banking it for later would be nice~
>>29933561>>2 Fight, we can kill this thing!
>>29933688welp! nice roll there!
>>29933631>>29933639I like these.>>29933679You, are not an elegan/tg/entleman, and with such an attitude drag the quest down far more than anything you have accused him of doing.
>>299338012nd
>>29933762If that was the case there would be no reason to turn the dice off.
>>29933561You decide you may as well not go out without a fight! Unit 5 is the more battle hardened of the two, and thus opens up with it's heavy lasers. It burns through the first layer of husks, men and women mindlessly marching right into your laser fire, incinerating many. They are many however. Unit 2 flies up, it's vision clouded by the thick clouds of spores, but it manages to get a few blasts off against the husks as well, clearing out a good number of their slaves. The giant fungus itself reacts to this, however, and it sprays Unit 2 down, dousing it in the substance. While it is robotic, you notice thick parasitic tendrils grow and start to tie up Unit 2's operation digits. It can still fly, but using it's tools is now much more difficult.Unit 5, however, has taken to battle quite well. It has begun to mercilessly slaughter the slaves, tearing out throats with it's razor like claws and crunch skulls under the weight of it's powerful grip, throwing one slave into dozens of others and knocking them down. But there are just so many.>1 Fight (new orders? Specify attacks?)>2 Flee>3 Blow up ship>4 Write in/Other I want to see what ideas you guys have.(1d100)
>>29933857>>4 Write in/OtherCapture the hivemind for interrogation and testing.
>>29933857Have 5 take pot shots at where the spore tendrils link up to the wiring in the walls~
Rolled 70>>29933839Yeah, just deal with the rolls as they come (even the 1s). There was a 95 up top, so we'll be fine.Well, technically speaking, we're an artificial intelligence and are in no way in danger.>>29933857Determine origin and/or destination of the crates that the fungus had grown out of. Note any symbols or markings on the slaves, attempt to ascertain their origin/allegiance.
>>29933857>1 Fight (new orders? Specify attacks?)>4 Write in/Other I want to see what ideas you guys have.Uproot the giant plant and put in in the bio-hazard wing.
Rolled 5>>29933892>>29933857Forgot to roll
Rolled 51>>29933857>4 Write in/Other I want to see what ideas you guys have.Our ships have lasers, yeah? Cut a hole in the bottom of the ship right under papa shroom and space this fucker. We can throw it into the planet right by us and let it burn on re-entry
Rolled 53>>29933894And rolling for it.
>>29933857>1 Fight (new orders? Specify attacks?)>4 Write inCan we send this fucker towards that hyper evolution planet and see what happens?(i'm hoping he becomes a giant planet monster that we can control with sound.)
>>29933857>2&>4Do>>29933801 & >>29933741Try to communicate with whatever we have available.Even if it's just a beastial intellect, there are still ways of communicating, we just have to find them.Preferably a fighting retreat - it is probably more open to diplomacy if it no longer has any means to defend itself.Oh!>4 Have Unit 5 fire a low-power laser blast at Unit 2. We want to heat it up so that the spores die, but the unit does not.
>>29933944>Can we send this fucker towards that hyper evolution planet and see what happens?(i'm hoping he becomes a giant planet monster that we can control with sound.)see also >>29933529this quest is going places.
Guys, this thing is feeding off of the ship's own power. Disconnect it from the ship, and we'll be in the clear.
>>29933944Now that's some lateral thinking. Support.
>>29933984Oh, ground-based virus lightlings?
>>29933972>>29933857Can this be a research path, but also add lightlings to it.I would laugh if we created the flood or another hive mind like being.
>>29933984How exactly do you plan to do that?
>>29933944i'd rather keep the "science" projects separate.
>>29934017If things keep going this way, it'll be very difficult for me NOT to use the Flood as inspiration.Not that I'm complaining.
Rolled 74>>29933857>>29933970Forgot my roll.>>29933944Aaah, no! Let's not do that! Bad idea!>>29933916I'd be in favor of this, but against the zombie-people.Have a ship with a laser fire through the ship such that it cuts through the zombie horde - preferably vertically so that the floor is not compromised.>>29933908This, but in a separate ship's cargo bay. We are NOT bringing it aboard, no matter how much it appears to require biological matter to spread.
>>29934050See guys even the QM wants us to do SCIENCE.
>>29934064you misspelled "good"
>>29933944You know that is a terrible idea...and yet I want to support it.
>>29933944>>29933984my god, what fresh hell have we stumbled upon then? well, if we are going to drop this on the death world, then we better get ready to nuke the whole planet from orbit 3 times over to make sure it's all dead.i STILL want to see this happen!
>>29934050Personally, I rather not unleash the flood onto the galaxy.
>>29934025See left.
Rolled 32>>29934107forgot my dice as well.
Rolled 41>>29934017>>29934050>>29934105>>29934106Well.. when you put it that way... Maybe..It would be a pretty awesome feat to tame such a thing.But that's for later - first we try to survive. Punch another boarding torpedo into that ship if necessary.
You order Unit 5 to open fire on some of the more dense clusters of roots. Perhaps you think you may be able to disconnect it from the ship somehow?Unit 5 reacts to your orders, spinning itself around to clear out the slaves around it, slicing through their midriff and sending them stumbling back. You make a small note that, even without their guts, they do not fall, and instead their hollow empty expressions only grow more disturbing now that they lack innards. Instead, Unit 5 focuses it's fire on several clusters up above.And that certainly gets a reaction.It burns away one cluster and you can feel the entire ship quake, vines all over the ship's surface constrict and tighten, causing the entire vessel stress under the weight of it all. You eventually see why the sound was happening-a thick cluster of vines comes from the ceiling, smashing where Unit 5 is, which it narrowly dodges. Unit 2, however, it snatched out of the sky and immediately crushed under the strength of the thing, tossing it to crash against the side of the wall.>1 Fight! (Specify)>2 Flee>3 Destroy Ship>4 Write In(1d100)
>>29934148How do you plan to do it without roasting the fungus? The lasers aren't exactly precision equipment.
>>29934196>1 Fight! (Specify)Send in the other drones as back up.
Rolled 95>>29934196>>1 Fight! (Specify)Cut more roots.
Rolled 78>>29934196CUT ALL THE ROOTSAnd you people laughed at my suggestion. FAW, I SAY
Rolled 52>>29934196>1 Fight! keep cutting!
>>29934196We have "control" of the ship don't we? Can we just jump it to the planet and "place" it on the world?Then we must build one of our strongest sensor arrays to just gather information from the planet to track it's progress.
Rolled 57>>29934235Also, what this guy said
Rolled 70>>29934196So is the Evolution planet idea still a go?1
>>29934196Keep cutting!
>>29934271>>29934196Seconded, you can use my roll>>29934243Here
>>29934286Let's play with the fungus a bit in the labs first, Anon.Also, I'd like one of our frigates to be prepped as a quarantine station, where we might be able to temporarily store this thing.
Rolled 63>>29934196>1 Fighting retreat.>4 Punch more boarding torpedoes in.And use whatever laser or plasma weapon is more appropriate for high-precision fire through the vessel.
Rolled 41>>29934305I'd prefer if we studied its current state carefully before we did something like that.Chances are we'll be creating a planetary hivemind in very little time with more effective Bandwidth than we have.
>>29934243EverytimeUnit 5 is not exactly built for precision, but by damn if it isn't getting lucky shots in. It begins to run along the walls of the cargo bay, dodging whips of vines back and forth, using it's agility to it's advantage and pausing only briefly to blast apart one of the vine clusters. Yet no matter how many you destroy, it doesn't so much as weaken it as anger the giant fungus. It pulsages and the air grows so thick with spores, Unit 5 loses it's ability to see-but not before it has blasted enough clusters to enrage the thing. You don't know if it can see you, but Unit 5 has yet to stop moving just in case.You believe you have hurt the thing, and Unit 5 expertly dodges the saturated vines every time they close in, using split second reactions to maneuver out of the way.Spores are eveywhere! What do you do?>1 Send in Back up droids>2 Get Unit 5 to leave>3 Blind fire time>4 Write in(1d100)>>29934286You can do whatever you want, Consciousness anon.
>>29934271A very interesting idea I have to say.
>>29934375Do we have a sample?
>>29934375>1 Send in Back up droidsWe have the gas and sure as hell the minerals for this.
Rolled 12>>29934330no! under no way this stuff is going planet side near our good lab, we can build a cheap cargo ship and put a lab on that. that way we can dispose of the mess if it gets out of control. that and i don't want any chance of other people knowing about this yet.
>>29934375Send in backup units.Also...can we use lasers from the fleet nearby to just...cut the cargo hold from the rest of the ship?
Rolled 1>>29934375>1 Send in Back up droidsDROOONES!!!
Rolled 86>>29934427forgot my dice
Rolled 16>>29934375>1 Send in Back up droids
Rolled 79>>29934375>1 Let's secure this thing.&>4 Turn on heat-vision.If that doesn't help,>3Keep the pressure on that toadstool!
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>>29933679So have I, but it's the frosty sort of assholeness that doesn't, I don't know, ruin the quest experience.Don't mock the man, mock his bad ideas incessantly, they amount to the same thing at the end. Every animal learns pattern recognition eventually, and I have every bit of faith that fluff isn't as dense as Natsurium.
>>29934438>>29934478Shit.
>>29934375Send it to the planet.
Rolled 16>>2993437513disco time
>>29934400You do.>>29934427You can try.But uh. The ship is pretty heavily damaged. Might be difficult.>>29934438Interesting
Rolled 92>>29934554Yeah, let's try to seal all blast doors around the cargo bay, and try to lazer the cargo bay away from the rest of the ship. Hopefully, using our knowledge of the ship, we can avoid shooting any reactors in the process.
>>29934554In that case send the robot with the samples back.
>>29934438Well, we did need to pay for previous nat 100s...Welp:KRONOS QWEST: DEFEAT THE FUNGUS THAT MADE OPHION HIS BITCH.
>>29934592Did...did that actually work?
>>29934667No, only nat100s count now, and it's past 5 rolls.
Rolled 30>>29934695better get rolling
>>29934695He said I could try in the post just before that.
Rolled 25>>29934644One nat 100 didn't make us defeat the UGEI, I doubt a nat 1 would make us lose entirely.Chances are the toadstool is able to defend itself after all, though.
>>29934375Unit 5 is in quite the situation, you realize. You prepare to send your army of androids, before suddenly you read a spiking energy signature within the vessel. Heat build up within the main fungus has built to critical levels so fast! How is this possible?!Before you even have a chance to order the rest of your drones forward, the ship erupts in a enormous blast, sending fragments of fungus, spores, and metal everywhere. You lose contact with Unit 5, unfortunately, but you know now, for certain, the Fungus had control of the energy reactor, at least on some level. That explosion proved it.Unfortunately, you didn't just lose Unit 5. Your Battleship took a fair bit of hull damage from the blast, the shields failing to hold all of the explosion. While your resources may take a hit, you survive, and have a sample of the fungus.Now, the question is, what to do about the base you have yet to move in.>1 Move in mining base already to take advantage of the asteroid field but not the planetside mineral clusters>2 Move in to take a better scan of the planet itself, find out how bad the fungal infestation is.>3 Leave while you can>4 Write in
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>>29934744>2 Move in to take a better scan of the planet itself, find out how bad the fungal infestation is.
>>29934744>>2 Move in to take a better scan of the planet itself, find out how bad the fungal infestation is.Also check that our hull is devoid of any fungus.
>>29934744>1 & 2Also, I want to get off that ship. NOW
Rolled 46>>29934744>>1 Move in mining base already to take advantage of the asteroid field but not the planetside mineral clusters>>2 Move in to take a better scan of the planet itself, find out how bad the fungal infestation is.Prepare for Covenant style Planetary Glassing.
>>29934744Well, fuck.I don't suppose we could just retreat and come back with 50 million gigatons on salt and sulfur to baptize the planet?
Whoopsie(1d100 for space perception)
>>29934794What ship?
>>29934744>1 Move in mining base already to take advantage of the asteroid field but not the planetside mineral clusters>2 Move in to take a better scan of the planet itself, find out how bad the fungal infestation is.>4 Write inSend growth serum to the planets surface.
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>>29934744>1 Move in mining base already to take advantage of the asteroid field but not the planetside mineral clusters>2 Move in to take a better scan of the planet itself, find out how bad the fungal infestation is.AND we need to scan our hull to see if any of that stuff got on us. oh, send for the repair ship. we need to fit our own boat while we're here.
>>29934843please no
>>29934744>>29934824>4 Start cleaning our ships.Every ship with a plasma or laser cannon should set their weapons to a power-level that lets them sweep across our hull and external components without melting them.We don't want anything left here.Then >2Moving the mining base in before the area is clear is just risky. An hour or two more of many more resources.
>>29934843Suddenly: I AM GRAVEMIND
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>>29934845You decide to move in and do a more thorough scan of the planet's surface, just to be safe.After a few moments of detailed scans, you reveal something disturbing.The enormous structures you located were build over a massive system of tunnels and caverns throughout the entire planet's surface. Inside, you detect thousands of movement signatures like you did on the ship.Hundreds of those giant fungal things are located all over the planet as well, spewing the thick spore clouds and saturating the entire atmosphere with it. However.Deep under the crust, following the ping through the cave systems, you locate an enormous heat signature. Judging from the limited way fungus communicate, you suspect that this must indeed be the core of it all. Located miles below the surface.
>>29935021Attempt to communicate with visual as well as radio signals.
Rolled 78>>29935021I believe i'm what these humans called in love.
>>29935021>Deep under the crust, following the ping through the cave systems, you locate an enormous heat signature. Judging from the limited way fungus communicate, you suspect that this must indeed be the core of it all. Located miles below the surface.We salvaged nukes from Erebos' home planet, yes?
Rolled 15>>29934744Make sure our ship is clear of any spores/fungus.Make sure any fungus or spores in space are located and destroyed via energy laser.Glass all areas of the planet with the slightest hint of infection.
>>29935021Also, you manage to detect almost no life forms on your hull after doing a quick heat sweep over it.
>>29935021Intense Planetary Bombardment.
>>29935084That "almost" is a little worrying.
Rolled 42>>29935021Set up a quarantine blockade, a mining station, and alert the UFW of an extremely contagious organism on this planet.
>>29935084SCAN AGAIN.
>>29935021Question Program0: What is the range on that mining laser? What would it be if we did some "upgrades" to the station? Could it be possible to fire it from orbit and drill a hole all the way to the core?
>>29934744SCOUR OUR FUCKING HULL AND SHIP AND BURN THE FUCK OUT OF ANYTHING THAT VAGUELY RESEMBLES A SPORE
>>29935021How about we try communication now. Even if hostile and beastial, having A way of communicating is nearly always a good ideaDifferent radiation wavelengths, heat-pulses, sound, visible light, whatever we have.>>29935084"Almost"? Almost isn't quite good enough when it's meant to be entirely sterile.Find those remaining life forms and either sample them or destroy them.Not even a bacterium can be allowed to survive.If nothing else we may have bathe our ships in the close radiation of the nearby star before going home.
>>29935171Interesting idea...We really need our own form of the Imperium's Cyclonic Torpedoes, especially if we keep encountering world's like this.
>>29935084use videos to sweep the surface, these things produce little heat of their own.>>29935021time to perform an extermus on this planet
>>29935306>videos?
>>29935260Not sure if radiation is going to work.Just use fire. And have construction drones go over the ship with great attention to detail.
>>29935306>extermusWhat?
>>29935290>Cyclonic Torpedoeswelp! we just have to add this to the "to do" list of new tech to make.
>>29935290Indeed.But until then, we can have a frigate start accelerating towards the planet from about a light-day out.By the time it reaches the planet it should hopefully be traveling at around .3c (depends on how quickly our engine accelerate) and hit just as hard as a massive asteroid.
>>29935074You did.>>29935066You bombard the planet with radio signals, but get very little in response. The entire planet appears dead silent in fact. It's quite unnerving.>>29935085>>29935079>>29935074It seems the desire for bombardment may be a thing...so I may end the thread there, so construction can begin.>>29935119Heh, forgot who i was talking to. Obviously there are tiny space leeches on you.I kid.Allocate resources and actions by picking what you wish to build and do>Build nuclear arsenal (200M 500G)>Build Ships (Specify if a certain type is preferred)>Build Defenses>Move Station into Aquil (or don't, specify)>Set up control conditions to shut down Erebos and prepare him for research later (or don't)>Recycle Debris from Aquil (or don't)If I am forgetting anything, do let me knowAnd thank you to everyone who joined me for the thread! I hope you enjoyed as much as I did. I'll be around for feedback, comments and questions.Twitter is @AIQuest1 for those interested in followingArchived: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Program0
>>29935290Though instead of a station we could build a ship that's sole purpose is for planetary bombardment/drilling through a planet's crust.
>>29935385>>Build nuclear arsenal (200M 500G)gonna need it
>>29935385Can we please space google "zombie space fungus" or ask Moria about these things?
>>29935171The laser isn't powerful enough for that distance, unfortunately. It would diffuse through the atmosphere.>>29935342I am not familiar with what those things are actually...
>>29935385>>Build Ships (Specify if a certain type is preferred)Try and get our old numbers back.>>Build Defenses
>>29935444Nothing on your Extranet searches or even Moira's knowledge turn up anything of this sort.It is a strange organism to say the least.
>>29935428I swear to god if we waste it on planetary bombardment.Also, can't we get uranium from Atill VI to reduce costs of nukes?
>>29935334sorry, i meant exterminatus
>>29935472Fuckin zombie space shrooms
>>29935385>>Build DefensesLet's build some automated defenses around here in case the space zombies have more ships.I have a feeling nukes won't cut it for a creature so buried in the crust of the planet.
>>29935385Program0, question, would it be possible to increase salvaging efficiency if we were somehow able to directly utilize heat from a sun? Example: Send a derelict ship in a slingshot that brings it close enough to melt everything within the ship into a glob of metal before it all escapes from orbit after a single rotation. Barriers are set up right along the exit path, more big hunks of metal. With each one it hits, it decelerates further until the salvage crews are able to hook onto the blocks and slow the whole thing down manually.
>>29935478What else would we use it for?seriously, nukes a shit in space, not to mention they can be easily shot down. the only options for this planet is plasma bombardment and nukes, i suggest both.
>>29935385>Build smaller Nuclear Arsenal (100M 250G)>Build Ships More Wombats, Melissas and a bandwidth ship or two. Maybe a few Pilum destroyers if there's construction time to spare.>Move Station into Aquil if we're not going to continue this until next cycle. If next thread continues right away without a cycle passing, hold it back.>Set up control conditions to shut down Erebos and prepare him for research later.>Recycle Debris from Aquil once the Vultures are free, but be very careful in decontaminating every piece before letting it touch the ships - preferably melt them into slag first.
>>29935385Build ships capable of bombing a planet with plasma from low orbit.
>>29935516Just use mass drivers for planetary bombardment. Cheaper, slower.Nukes are just more efficient missiles.
>>29935385Can we send the evolution serum down there?
>>29935446>>29935385Program0 this is Exterminatushttp://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Exterminatus#.UuxuO_sz28c>>29935385>Build nuclear arsenal (200M 500G)but probably slowly for now unless it does not cut into our build rate.>Build Defensesmore defense platforms for our basesbuild a new mining station to set up here as well.
Hey Program, go check out the Blame! manga sometime. There really isn't much of a story to follow. Dude wants to find the plot-genes.It just has lots of cool scifi shit and nice art.
>>29935570you can ensure destruction unless you use fire, force doesn't chemically destroy matter.
Know what, seriously, fuck this system. Just leave and find a gas rich system. We got our minerals, we need to build up our defenses again.
>>2993544640k weaponsThey drill through the crust and detonate massively in the planet's core.Of course, we probably don't have to do that.We can probably get by juuuuust fine simply landing something big on it at a small fraction of the speed of light so that the sun's light is blocked out. Let's see how they manage against entropy in an entirely closed system.>>29935478Agree with this, asteroids are much better for the purposes at our current tech level. It'll probably take a week, but it's absurdly much cheaper.>>29935516We were planning to use them tactically on droids and place them inside frigates or even cruisers so that they can double as nuclear torpedoes if necessary
>>29935628Mass Drivers -> kinetic energy -> converted to heat upon collision Also, fuck this system. I already cost us too much and probably endangered us. Don't waste any more resources or time.
>>29935385>Build nuclear arsenal (200M 500G)No. Forget it. Let the fungus live on the planet until we can deal with it.>Build Ships (Specify if a certain type is preferred)More triremes, more BW. Also, replace the droids we lost.>Build DefensesIf there's a possibility of doing this, yes.>Move Station into Aquil (or don't, specify)Yes. We can mine the asteroids there, right? What's the estimated haul here per cycle?>Set up control conditions to shut down Erebos and prepare him for research later (or don't)Wait for kronos to come online, and then we can hack Erebos together.>Recycle Debris from Aquil (or don't)I'm hesitant to do this.What's been up with Rhea? I assume she's not just "hanging out" as it were and is getting proper medical attention. A cyber-connected brain is a terrible thing to waste.
>>29935516The nukes here are bigger than real life nukes because science.
>>29935570... In an atmosphere, mass drivers ARE fire.We can also simply nudge big asteroid towards the planet at a leisurely pace.Nuclear bombs are not efficient for ending a planet - small high-speed projectiles or decent-size low-speed asteroids will do that job much cheaper.
>>29935677>probably endangeredWE ARE FUCKING ROBOTS.Now that is out of the way, i find it funny that people want to destroy this by nuclear fire instead of using science to find a way to destroy/control it.
>>29935677it doesn't translate directly like that.when you shoot dirt with a bullet do you get any sort of significant heat?
>>29935636i guess a mix of both asteroid dropping and nukes will do the job here. still if the extranet does not have anything about the zombie fungus, does it have anything about this system and who was here first?
>>29935711We still have a sample to experiment with.At the very least, we want to put a damper on them by covering the entire planet in an ash-cloud.
>>29935703still like less than 10% yeild in space as on the ground
>>29935711Super A.I. Space Science will be the end of civilization forever.>>29935717Bullets are pretty damn hot, man. Also, the heat would come from friction with the atmosphere.
>>29935711But remember...we have a sample and a certain growth serum. I bet it would thrive on the death world.
>>29935710shit, if we find a big enough rock out here, we might just shatter the whole planet. that is good so we can get into ALL the minerials here!
>>29935710Plasma is better than all of that.actually why don't we just crash tons of huge asteriods into it? extinction event style
Ths things can survive space. If we shatter the planet we might just be spreading the spores everywhere.
>>29935781>I bet it would thrive on the death world."Ok, guys, I got it. We take the death world we already have.And then we turn it into MORE of a death world!">>29935793That might actually cause matter from the planet to get ejected into space. This virus will probably keep thriving there.
>>29935772And look at this, we just so happen to have something on the ground that needs to die.
>>29935778yes, but part of that is from the explosion from the initial force, and almost none of that is transfered to the target upon impact.
>>29935760ash? i would like to at least reduce this world to a moltent state. by fire this Nergle corruption shall be purged!
>>29935793This seems like a unnecessary waste of fuel. We should just put up defense station in case they have more ships, if they don't they're planet bound.
>>29935717http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCoHT_cHPzY>>29935711Just fucking leave this planet alone until we have the time or resources to deal with it. We can get resources else where in the time it takes to sterilize this planet. Or use mine the asteroid fields, and leave the planet alone.
>>29935511No comment on slagging the ships this way?
>>29935478These are 'different' nukes. Only by value of resources used to make them.>>29935511That would take quite a bit of time. And building a Fusion reactor is a lot cheaper and faster way to melt down metals, since it's essentially a miniature sun in your refinery.>>29935549Plasma (your current level of it anyway) don't have the strength of nukes of this level (in regards to planet bombing anyway.>>29935570Mass Drivers don't offer as much splash as nukes.>>29935588If some anons weren't terrified that it would bring about the end of the world, then yeah.>>29935594That is utterly terrifying.>>29935627Really? Interesting. What is Blame! about anyway?>>29935636That's crazy man.>Use asteroids to bomb itWell...you do have tractor beams.Not as chemically as effective as nukes, but it'd mess up the surface some. Probably destroy some resources, but not all of them.>>29935698>Haul per cycleYou're not sure yet, but the place is relatively rich.The world has even more resources however.>RheaShe's been unconscious for a long time now. Her vitals are active, but that's about it.You will be notified when she wakes up, should you have anything to say to her.
>>29935860Wait, if we can build one...why don't we do that, then?
>>29935851It would probably destroy much of the electronics and the power core. Not to mention melting all the metal into one large chunk which might contain impurities.
Just leave the planet-bound race to their planet and mine the rocks around it. We don't have the resources to deal with this fungus just yet.
I don't get it.Why don't we analyze the fungus, determine a fungicide, and then saturate the entire atmosphere with it?
>>29935860Ok, thanks Program0. Mind the asteroid field and just leave the planet alone for now.
>>29935904I'm thinking of researching them in junction with the growth serum, and maybe the lightling DNA.
>>29935860I think the gravity well of the planet is a good enough prison right now. Some anons had a good point: if we destroy the planet the fungus could go space borne.
>>29935898Impurities such as the fungus we don't want to survive. I don't much care about the electronics, what I want is the basic minerals from this. If it's cost effective, slag these ships and refine them afterwards. If not, shoot them into the sun.
>>29935924Because people want to nuke the planet instead of waiting and doing science.
>>299358341. thats light speed, LIGHT SPEED. that is very very fast.2. ever trusting MEit's like you don't follow ardat yakshi quest
>>29935717It's.. not at that level.It's more of a "Massive fucking firestorm" when you're using a modern railgun. What our singularity guns are capable of I can only imagine - Program0 hasn't really specified how much damage they do.The effect I'm mostly after is a global ash-cloud that covers the entire planet and cuts them off from the sun.Their homes are clusters of heat, implying that they need a lot of it to survive. It also implies they have very high metabolism.We'll simply starve them of their primary source of heat and nutrients.>>29935793Is also high power, but we may need Program0 on this as we don't know how efficient our plasma weapons are - or if they even use plasma, since they are supposedly usable at similar ranges as lasers but with lower accuracy, which requires whatever they fire to be close to the speed of light, which would also imply the "amount/mass" of plasma is extremely low, because otherwise our plasma weapons would essentially be hyper-efficient mass-drivers that impact with force usually reserved for fuckhueg battleships in the largest of settings (nukes would have NOTHING on them).Or it could just be a regular laser that uses plasma in its functioning to enhance the effect rather than actually firing it.
>>29935924yeah, we do actually have viruses from Atill VI. Bio-weapons are certainly a thing, I don't see why we can't try it.
>>29935924>>29935941Smartest answers of the group. Leave the planet for now, just mine asteroids.>>29935959And people want to waste huge amounts of gas that can be make into new ships and stuff
>>29935961BROWHY ARE YOU NOT RUNNING THATI feel insignificant here ;_;
>>29936002I'd also like to suggest putting up a bit of a quarantine blockade around the planet, or at least the launchway. Also, let's contact the UFW about a highly invasive, parasitic fungus.
>>29935860It's about cute girls doing cute things obviously.More seriously it's scenery porn full of cyborgs, rogue and not so rogue AIs, completely overpowered weapons and people somehow trying to survive in the middle of it. As far as I can go without being spoilers heavy.
>>29936045I would request assistance from them, but honestly the further organics are from this system the better.
>>29935924that will work for a bit, but the core of this nightmare is miles below the serface, we need to use some high power cleaners for that.>>29935860that is the point. for something like this, i would call for it too. this infestation has hit the godzilla treshold.
>>29935890Build one what, exactly?>>29935941Indeed it might.I really like the idea of putting it on Eshareth, just because oh god the horror.>>29935945By 'destroy electronics' he means it would render the ship immobile.>>29935974I can't exactly give the weapons listed values. But I can say the Mass Drivers would be extremely small miniature meteoroids. They'd mess up a lot of shit on the surface, sure, but it wouldn't go terribly deep, and the friction would slow them down severely due to the consistency of the atmosphere.But the asteroid is a good idea. I like it, even if it's not the cleansing effect you seem to want.It's also worth noting however they the big ass mushroom was living inside a dead ship just fine.>>29936002It's also worth noting the 'nuclear arsenal' option is a basically one time offer(You'd build thousands upon thousands of nukes for that cost I listed. Plenty for a planatary bombardment and more.)
>>29936006I don't run it, just participate.I voted for Quarian in the Geth/Quarian wars in the QTG. ;_;
Wait, I just got an inspired idea.Perfect place for data bunkers? Just broadcast warnings of biological terrors, and hide bunkers here?
>>29936091That sounds awesome, I won't lie.Will call for a vote to finalize options in a moment, go ahead and discuss matters somemore, though. I will keep answering questions as well as I can
>>29936102No, tell them to AVOID this place like the plague.Because, you know, it is."We have set up a fully robotic blockade on the system and have isolated the planet itself. It is our reccomendation that any ship with organic crewmen stay away from the system."
>>29936127Then i vote for Nuclear Arsenal
>>29935974And what if they're drawing heat from the molten core of the planet? Then we just kicked up a bunch of spores with our explosions. Whoops.
>>29936150I'm assuming defense platforms are gas cheap, so we can build up a lot of defenses with the minerals we have?
>>29936146This fungus would eat the power cores.
>>29936165Just going to point out that it is pretty much physically impossible to launch something into orbit by hitting the planet unless you are literally breaking apart the planet
>>29936127You forgot to mention it was also controlling the ship, and what remained of the crew.
>>29936176>Defense platforms are gas cheapExtremely. 99% mineral cost.
>>29935826Would still like to study it. An global ash-layer would most likely put them on the extreme defensive as they generate massive amounts of heat (Detectable deep underground from orbit, even) which implies extreme metabolism.Even if it did not kill them outright, it would at the very least force them into some kind of energy-saving mode within a few weeks-months.>>29935860It would also cover the planet in a global ash-layer, cutting them off from the sun entirely.To have an effect with nukes, we'd need absurd numbers of them, and absurd power to them.Nukes are not efficient for planetary sterilization until you get to the extreme power levels. The "splash" is negligible on a planetary scale. It's not even noticable from orbit.The best we can hope for in this case is to irradiate a lot of the surface, but there's no telling how good these things are at resisting radiation. If they're anything like cockroaches it's just not practical.>>29935924>>29935959I actually like this idea.My only suggestions for asteroids were to contain it (Ash cloud: Insta-Fridge) until we can do proper science on it.
>>29936192>Just going to point out that it is pretty much physically impossible to launch something into orbit by hitting the planet unless you are literally breaking apart the planetYou are wrong.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martian_meteorite
>>29935860>Really? Interesting. What is Blame! about anyway?Dude wants to find net code access genes. Goes to find them. Wanders around in some giant unknown cyber nightmare for centuries shooting shit with a stupidly powerful pistol.The setting I would describe as "Humanity becomes gods through their technology, and then loses control and tries to survive in heaven made hell."
>>29936192I read that some pieces of Mars were blasted into space due to asteroid collisions.
>>29936206>ow good these things are at resisting radiation.well if they can survive being in space, then they can survive it pretty damn well.
>>29936165>>29936150gimmie some time, and i'll head to 1d4 chan and brain storm up what ship or system we could make to help deal with this if the planet get broken up but not cleansed enough.
>>29936206Seriously, stop wasting resources on planet. We got the minerals we need at the moment, now is the time to bulk up on defenses and ships.>>29936200Program0, if we were to give Metis a black box, would it return bandwidth back to us, or would he keep it?
>>29936256This. Space is really fucking irradiated.>>29936206They're mostly underground, which leads me to believe that they get their power source from underground.
>>29936196But I did mention that, and demonstrated that too>>29936206>Cover planet in ashMost likely. Though, it's not like the atmosphere isn't thick already. It's full of spores after all.>Power level of the nukesWhich type do you believe we're working with?These are meant for planetary bombardment, at least so they likely differ from real nukes in some ways. I am tempted to call them Fusion nukes, but that may be too powerful? I'm not sure how strong a fusion nuke would be.>FungicideThis also may be possible.
>>29936235>>29936222Mars has almost no atmosphere compared to habitable planets.
>>29936206you have a point. it would give us time to clean the serface with less explosives. maybe a new cemical weapon to remove it. but the deep rooted problems would will have to deep bore nuke them.
>>29936299What's a conservative estimate on how much lazer we'd have to use to set the atmosphere of the planet on fire?What's the oxygen/hydrogen/methane density?
>>29936316Seriously what is it with you and nukes?
>>29936127Well then, let's get that nuclear arsenal at full price then! (Should probably distribute it over the fleet, stations, planets and property so that we don't lose them all when a single planet or ship is lost)>>29936165If they can do that (not too unlikely) we're in trouble. And good point about kicking up spores, may be better to leave them there entirely, then.>>29936192Not quite, there are serious theories that life on this planet may have originated on mars and then been carried here by asteroid impacts.It's entirely possible to kick spores up into space by hitting it with asteroids far too small to crack the planet itself.>>29936200Oooh, let's set up some of those!
>>29936277>would it return bandwidth back to us, or would he keep it?The way I imagine it is that its "being" would be contained in the Black Box, and it would be able to use BW on a manual basis, like how we use it. It would still need time to process information, just like we use BW to drive ships and androids.
>>29936299For now I propose to build up some defense stations and leave the planet alone. If they have ships the stations will take care of them. If they don't they're stuck in a gravity well.
>>29936150If you are more of a western stuff person the same artist also did Snikt! featuring Wolverine and pic related one shot based on the flood from Halo called breaking quarantine.
>>29936299>Fusion nukesThose exist. They're called H-bombs.
>>29936232That's pretty fucking rad.>>29936277>MetisIt would return all your bandwidth, yes.
>>29936358How fast can we make black boxes? Because we should make them for all our VI.
>>29936385I like this. We can also then continue our AI Integration project.
>>29936358Would Metis require the 20bw to effectively do his research, or would he conduct his research without needing it?Also, required reading for nuke yields. Note chart is logarithmic.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapon_yield
>>29936299We have fusion nukes today.They're in the megaton range, about a thousand times stronger than the Hiroshima bomb, which doesn't really mean all that much in space when the primary issue is in getting to the enemy ship. Making a fusion warhead is a lot easier than making a fusion reactor, since you can use a fission reaction to trigger the fusion reaction.But right now I'm more in line with letting it stay there until we can SCIENCE! them up a bit, possibly develop a fungicide.
>>29936329The atmosphere isn't particularly flamable. In the sense that it wouldn't light up like a Christmas tree just from being hit with hot lasers.>>29936342A.I. would be able to share the bandwidth with you. Use it when needed, but not always use it. So it's a lot more sharable, and less crowded. If you require the bandwidth for a moment, it is relinquished really fast (like you guys were trying to do with V.I. and shutting them down, except the A.I. aren't shut down)>>29936345Flood are creepy man.>>29936352Are they exceedingly more powerful then normal ones?Trying to work out the exact power level I am implying to you guys, is all.>>29936385You do not know.Kronos is the first. It's randomized, and rolled for successful integration. Wish Kronos luck.>>29936436As stated above, he can use his bandwidth whenever it is free, but he won't require it to operate. Just like you.
>>29936481>Are they exceedingly more powerful then normal ones?Most powerful bombs ever made.
>>29936335a properly made nuke will also produce along side a massive blast, but also a deadly pulse of gamma radiation. that stuff KILLS biological life. even stuff that could survive deep space if it's high enough. that bomb will double as mister clean for removing the fungus.
>>29936513The problem is that stuff that survives in space is HIGHLY radiation resistant, otherwise it would die all the time in space.I'm just really deterred about the gas cost. We can build a carrier or 2 with that cost, or another entire fleet. We can declare exterminatus later, or use cheaper alternatives, or just leave it for now because we have all the minerals we need at the moment and a lot of defenses to build at the moment.
>>29936512Right, so here's what I'm thinking.Those type of bombs, but developed over a few hundred years (at the least) to be that much more energy efficient at destroying planetside cities and entrenched defenses.Hope that explains everything!Seems like discussion has died down tho. Voting coming up
>>29935385Build Sets>1 IncludesBuild Nuclear Arsenal (200M 500G)Build Ships (Trireme and Melissa ships)Build Defenses (Mostly minerals cost)Move Station into AquilSet up control conditions to shut down Erebos and prepare to research himRecycle Debris from Aquil>2IncludesBuild Ships (Trireme and Melissa ships)Build Defenses (Mostly minerals cost)Set up control conditions to shut down Erebos and prepare to research himRecycle Debris from Aquil>3IncludesBuild Nuclear Arsenal (200M 500G)Build Ships (Trireme and Melissa ships)Build Defenses (Mostly minerals cost)Set up control conditions to shut down Erebos and prepare to research him>4IncludesBuild Ships (Trireme and Melissa ships)Build Defenses (Mostly minerals cost)Move Station into AquilSet up control conditions to shut down Erebos and prepare to research him
>>29936481>AI Box for himI still think we should see how he handles for a few cycles first. We're giving him a lot of leeway.At the very least we should put in some very careful restrictions and loyalty-assurers into his code and hardwired into his box.Not of the restrictive kind, but of the "Wants to help us, understands that ultimately our word is law - the intent of the word, not just the literal meaning, hates the idea of disappointing or harming us physically but is not afraid of arguing for his case, feels child-like love towards us" variety, not the "mind-controlled" variety.>Are they exceedingly more powerful then normal ones?They ARE the normal ones today.They're exceedingly powerful, you'll need some serious deus ex machina or hyper-advanced technology to save you if one goes off right next to your ship, but they can still be shot down before they reach you like any other missile, and unlike missiles they won't initiate if you shoot them (nuclear devices don't detonate, they initiate, because there's a very specific set of events that have to happen in a very specific way to trigger a nuclear reaction).It should be noted that many nuclear missiles today are of the multi-warhead variety. Each missile has several warheads with independent targets since it's generally a lot more practical to have several smaller bombs than a single large one for maximal destruction/area of effect (due to square cube law rapidly causing the effect of the bomb to diminish at a distance).
>>29936579well, if we can find a fungicid type chemical weapon to use first on this stuff, i'll be all for this. that and open up the planet's vulcanizem to spead magma all over this fungus as well to clean it. if we have alterntives, lets us them first. but if we have to use nukes, lets use them well.
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>>29936667>Loyalty ProtocolHeh, so just a little brainwashing instead of a lot?I kid.>Fusion NukesNeat. All I was saying was imagine that was refined over several hundred years is all. To the point they serve their purpose of bombing planets well enough. I can't imagine many other weapons being useful for such a thing (unless they had the patience for Mass Drivers to work, or just wanted to blast things with plasma all day.)
>>29936657Just to be sure Program0, Move Station into Aquilwould include recycling debris? Also, how much resources would we recover from the debris?
>>29936657>4this is us making a new station, right? we need to do science on our sample. find a counter mesure to it.
>>29936753Any option that lists it without moving the station uses your vulture ship.But otherwise, yes it will recycle it.
>>29936748>>29936753maybe we should build more vulture class ships?
>>29935385>Build nuclear arsenal (200M 500G)>Don't move station into orbit yet>Prepare Erebos for research>Burn all derbies
>>29936657Huh, interesting.It seems 4 has won the vote. Oh well, no nukes for now I suppose.Any other matters you good folks had to ask me about?
>>29936748I would hesitate to call it brainwashing.Not MUCH more than the instincts human children are born with.>Mass DriversGet them up to, say, .60c and fire 2-ton slugs and mass-drivers will do just fine. Probably a fair bit before that, too.Speed kills - at higher levels of .c it outdoes even antimatter for destructive potential.
>>29936841Concerning this...I think we're good.
>>29936841For the black boxes, how much does it cost to make one, and how long does it take to make it?
>>29936841i think that if we went to the chemical/counter biological route first in dealing with this corruption, we might be able to save more minierals in the end Program0
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>>29936841Can we send an alert to the UFW about this fungus, if we haven't already?
>>29936841The usual questions:How are the politics of the UFW doing?Any news of Losirian activity?Also, when can we start interacting with the Losirian? I would either like to interact with them diplomatically, or steal their fleet and resources. Not much room for in between.Are there any opportunities for working with the mainstream Malorians?
>>29936841oh, where we going to make a NEW mining station here instead of taking a good one off a good spot? more so now we are not making nukes?
>>29936784>>29936714>>29936737Why no recycling or mining, guise?It could be used to construct the new defensive platforms.
>>29936481>It's randomized, and rolled for successful integration. Wish Kronos luck.Oh.Well.At least we said some nice last words.
>>29936970Moving the station is for both mining and recycling. That was the question I asked.
>>29936970i am looking at a little bit of both more defenses and ship build up. i have no problem with building another new mining platform either.
>>29936970I don't see an option for mining on them, so I'm assuming moving a station there is mining. Which we picked.Salvaging fungus infested ships is just asking for trouble. Throw them onto the planet or into the sun.
>>29937017I knew that. >.>
>>29936871>Get them up to, say, .60c and fire 2-ton slugs and mass-drivers will do just fine.But Subroutine 190491, that's not a Singularity Driver anymore, that's a full on Siege Driver. Which you do not have access to yet.Don't worry though. the upper levels of Mass Driver tech can get quite scary.>>29936888Not enough to calculate. It's all EXTREMELY sensitive equipment, and it's very difficult and delicate work to create, but it's not expensive. (requires a roll, basically)The roll will also determine how long it takes.>>29936937Perhaps.But who is to say?>>29936947You have issued a very obvious alert that they should stay away from this system. Not why yet, beyond pathogen. Would need a vote to tell them why.>>29936952>UFWQuite fine, things have calmed down since you took on the front of the war for them. Things are actually prospering.>LosirianNo, it's quite worrisome actually. No real signals beyond what was already detected.>interact with themAnytime the consensus shifts towards that? You certainly can.>MaloriansYou have a way better chance of making deals with the Council of Juma then the Ishtooy, yes.You'd just need a good offer.>>29936968Pardon? You have a station lying in wait already. Just hasn't been used yet.>>29936987Comon now, that's no way to be optimistic!Kronos does get some bonuses because of his intellect. But you know.
Why are we not building nukes?It's a one-time cost to have them for like a dozen cycles... Also, I don't feel comfortable with moving the station into orbit while this fungal infestation still lives on the planet's surface. I agree that it is confined by gravity (for now), but it has shown signs of intelligence and I'd rather not risk it escaping into space again.
>>29937109500 gas can be used for much more useful things rather than nukes. Rather build up fleet instead.
>>29937109I assume fear of gas starvation is part of the reason.And wanting to build ships, as per >>29937141
>>29937109Well, we also built defense stations and the station is automated. I think Poseidon is our only crewed station.
>>29937159Program0, is it also possible in the future to mine the uranium of Atill VI to build cheaper nukes or other reasons?Also, in the future we can also most defense platforms like we move stations?
>>29937109We're not exactly rolling in the gas, so anything with a high gas cost is going to need to yield consistent and pretty immediate returns. Nukes on a fungal planet? Not really worth wasting gas on. We'd get more minerals, yeah, but we have now come into a great quantity of them.Which, I should note, should be saved and used for a BW bunker. It's just too damn useful. Now that we can make more A.I.s (and hopefully Kronos comes back to us), we could tag-team enemies with both shooting and hacking. BW is way more useful than defense platforms, especially now that (hopefully) Kronos could help out.
>>29937085Ask OSN what it thinks about AI Integration and the possiblities it has.
>>29937248OSN is leashed and has minimal intellect. That's why it doesn't even have a real name.Before putting OSN into a BB, we should probably get Kronos and OSN to have simulated electronic warfare, in order to determine just how much OSN can take before buckling.Then, us and Kronos should duke it out in simulated electronic warfare, and we would be able to gauge how effective an A.I. is at the same task the V.I. is.It might be that the V.I. is more capable at doing its job than an A.I.
>>29937085>Would need a vote to tell them why.We could just tell them something general, like "planetary & solar-system biohazard">Anytime the consensus shifts towards that? You certainly can.I'd like to build a frigate/destroyer or two and send them to scout.Since they cost negligible amounts of gas to travel, might as well warp them in far from the main planet and anyplace forces are likely to be, study them from there, and then warp out. No need for having them able to transmit bandwidth - a Pilum destroyer will do fine.>You'd just need a good offer.Why yes, I would like to initiate diplomatic relations with that Council, ASAP!>NukesDon't suppose there's any chance we can make only a fraction of our materials into nukes (At a fraction of the cost), and do the rest later?
>>29937294>>29937294This...is a very good point. However, suppose Kronos actually WINS this...
>>29937294And by "simulated electronic warfare" i mean "give each side a set amount of BW with the goal of gaining access to the enemy's BW" not "destroy each other while I watch."
When Kronos gives up his bandwidth, I'd also like to have us finally produce a modest number of ground-forces and a V.I. to effectively control them instead of spending one bandwidth per unit.If not that, can we at least make a simplistic programming language and control program for them so that we don't have to manually control each of their limbs in realtime?
>>29937085>>29937306>LosirianFor the Losirians, I would like to send as large a fleet as possible. They seem to respect strength, and the moment they decide not to corporate, we start shooting and hacking and take the fight to them.>MaloriansSay we have a common enemy and we would like to join their fighting formations. We ask no price and offer our help for free.
>>29937213Eh, I eliminated keeping track of minor resources like that for the sake of cleaner note keeping. Just assume stuff like that is use as appropriate if it must, but the most resources (the ones you pay) are what matter most.Like I said, they're not the same as the nukes we know.>>29937248It doesn't really think, no. But it would be a prime subject for such research if you went there.>>29937294>Electronic sparingBy god, I hadn't even thought of that. That's hilariously cool.>>29937306>BiohazardYou did. As I stated before.The Losirian systems aren't that big. That's as far as they've expanded according to your last scout.>Council NegotiationsPerhaps once you've finally managed to expand a bit further. The threads keep getting tied up in other stuff, and I feel bad for not having you do a whole lot.>Make just some nukesI guess so, but to have any real or lasting effect on the planet you'd at least need to spend 125-150 gas.>>29937326Heh.
>>29937329I like that, seems pretty neat.We should do a few practice runs against OSN ourselves before then, effectivize our own and its strategies.I also think we should create virus "packages" for different purposes. For example, we can take all the non-obvious virus-effects, consolidate them into a few viruses and stick them in a single package called the "Stealth Package", and take different varieties of openly offensive effects and call it the "Attack Package".
>>29937085oh, we had one in storage then? never mind then. even in death, Kronos help us further science. we are becoming like apature all the time.hum. maybe council of Juma needs some guns/ships to help tip the tide back to their favor? maybe some weapons we could sell them?
>>29937326Then we put OSN into an A.I. construct, and reserve a set amount of BW for it. That's really all there is to it.Maybe I should have clarified >>29937329 beforehand, I might have given you the wrong impression of what the goal of the exercise it.Additionally, we would be stress-testing OSN and Kronos with the most powerful electronic warfare suites anyone can possibly have (A.I., duh), so in a combat situation where our enemies won't have A.I., I imagine the situation would be a lot more in our favor.Just things to keep in mind.I imagine the test results would be something like "3 BW VI (OSN) vs 3 BW AI (Kronos) results in VI victory" "3 BW VI vs 20 BW AI results in AI victory" etc
You know, just dropping tungsten rods about the size of telephone poles from orbit hits with the same force as a nuke.Nothing but pure metals cost and no radiation.Kinetic bombardment is not to be trifled with.
>>29937470But how big is the explosion? Is it as big as a future nukes?
>>29937470I wish Obama can accelerate asteroid mining so America can have cheap kinetic strike capability, I mean use the resources for peaceful purposes of course.>>29937499http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2004-06/rods-godBasically expensive, clean nukes.
>>29937499We don't know how big these explosions are. I kinda want Program to give us a number in tons of TNTIf it's not big enough, just make the rods bigger.
>>29937499More than a whale's ejaculation. :I
>>29937427All I want is to expand our empire...
>>29937499we use bigger rods then?
>>29937422How about we scout them first, THEN decide if we want to send a large fleet?We have literally no experience of them save their pirates.We don't have to expose ourselves in any way - our ship can be long gone by the time the light and infrared radiation it emits even reaches any of their sensors.>Make just some nukesI want them for tactical purposes, not for nuking the planet.Equipping frigates with them and running them into enemy ships, making suitcase-nukes for our infantry, stuff like that.>>29937326You do remember that we have a very, very evil QM, right?
>>29937441Remember, they were trying to foster peace between the Ishtooy and the UGEI. They hate the UGEI but they don't like war any better.Really they just want to be left alone.>>29937445>V.I. beating an A.I.Heh.But really, bandwidth is all about processing power. They can get lucky (or just be skilled) but that sorta power does pay off for them.>>29937470Indeed not.Mass Drivers get really scary later on anon.Like, really scary.
>>29937564Ok, I guess we do have a stealth ship.
>>29937540Anon, I wish very much I had a vague clue how the relation between tons of TNT and explosive power related, but I honestly have no clue, and if I started throwing out hard numbers, I feel like I'd give people the wrong idea.>>29937550And I love seeing it, anon.
>>29937535 the only mining Obama is digging is finding new ways to drop his polling numbers even lower into the ground.
We need more citizens for our empire. By which I mean more AI.
>>29937565I don't see why you would be surprised that I would think VI stand a chance against AI. If they don't, then we are not really at risk by connecting to Erebos, right?We have literally no information about it either way: neither in-game, nor in OOC discussion. Now we know our VIs are special due to personality matrices, but we still have no clear idea of how different they are, and how differently they operate. This is why the test with Kronos is so important, and why I kept asking for him to keep a journal.
>>29937565>Mass Drivers get really scary later on anon.Don't forget, as their power increases the speed at which the projectile travels increases, which means their effective range also increases.They may eventually outstrip lasers and plasma weapons entirely (or combine them into mass-drivers that fire plasma or liquid, ala Mass Effect) so that they are only practical for point-defense and extreme-range combat.
>>29937629TURN ALL VI INTO AIWhat's the worst that could happen?
>>29937599program0, you said the sharkies empire has been rather "Quiet" lately, right? .....guys? i think the space zombie fungus has hit the xeno worlds. we better get some recon out there and see if they have been corrupted.
>>299376791) They are unable to transfer properly, and die.2) They get corrupted in the transfer process and turn into terrible mutants incapable of anything.3) They get corrupted in the transfer process and go crazy with power.4) They stop obeying us.>>29937690How my heart bleeds for them.
