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Suptg Archive:

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=Shadow+Quest+
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Archive compiled with story posts and pictures for an easier read, as well as ability and metadata tables:(big thanks to contributors, especially Sorry!):

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/akcvpyo893vvae6/ieUkT-2X3j
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Twitter (quest times, cancellations, updates):

https://twitter.com/ShadowMaster_tg
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Theme music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLTQ5PlEWko
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Notes on Rolls and Voting:

When I request rolls, each set of three rolls counts for one action. For example, a two-step plan would take the first 6 linked rolls. A particularly bad failure can interrupt a string of actions.

When rolling 1d100, I will consider criticals within the first ten linked rolls. Only criticals that occur in the first three rolls will be counted as "supercrits". This is still the case even if you'd have plan long enough to require more than ten rolls.

When rolling 1d20, the rules are the same, but I only consider criticals for the first five rolls, rather than ten. Criticals in the first three are still "supercrits".

When a plot choice results in extensive debate, I'll try to weed out the most popular trains of thought, and then call a vote on them. When voting, please respond with only a link back to the post and the number corresponding to your opinion. Other votes are discounted, including those with dice rolls or extra spaces.

Finally, note that this is not a democracy; it is a benevolent dictatorship.
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Recent Events Summary:

The war meeting has come and gone. While Fang's battle plan went relatively unopposed, Sandalphon will be joining you when you infiltrate Kan-Abar to kill the summoners that are maintaining the demon lords. Of course, he needs them for his own plan - so his help is likely to be mixed. At the same time, you actually need his plan to be successful - up to the point that he brings Sir Flint out into the open.

After the meeting, you decided to place your teleport anchor at the battlefield in preparation, and then traveled to Kan-Abar to scout out the enemy headquarters and add the Earth mana pool there to your growing manaport network. The mages have seemingly been slowly corrupted by the demons - their minds are bent away from the possibility of compromise and peace. A young mage named Delan, that appears to have resisted this process, was almost cornered when he spoke his worries about the demons aloud, but having followed him through the palace, you snatched him from the jaws of death, along with a two of his servant aquaintences.

Delan has told you a few things you didn't know - the fourth and most powerful demon lord shares the elements of Wind and Lightning, and while magically powerful, is relatively physically weak. He's also told you that the weakness of Kan-Abar's fire towers is their fuel source, the fire mana pool.

>con't
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After leaving him to be questioned by your allies, you meditated, and then decided to speak with the Black Lady about the Staff of Winds before your double date. Abigail came with you; she did most of the talking. Melody was reluctant to accept your vision of a redeemable Yi Fang; old hurts and valid suspicions are keeping her at bay. She has yet to make a committment either way, but said she would at least hear him out.

The date was a bit tense, but Fang let his guard down and went on about a few stories from his past. After dinner, he and the Black Lady walked home alone. You and Abigail both promptly went to spy on them.

Fang - having picked up on a few tells - deduced that the Black Lady was in fact Melody. Both of them revealed their true feelings, good and bad. Ultimately, they reconciled, and rediscovered something they had believed lost.

And now...you have more work to do.
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Load all bomb bays with local hills.
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Ability Tree

GREEN abilities have been unlocked and learned.

BLUE abilties are unlocked, but are not yet purchased.

RED abilities are revealed, but locked due to prerequisites.

UNDERLINED abilities are active-use, as opposed to passive. Not all active abilities require mana.

All Revealed Ability Descriptions:

http://pastebin.com/xaDQ0HAy

Books the Main Character has read:

http://pastebin.com/dAXR00gP

Character Sheet including learned abilities and other important information:

http://pastebin.com/64VcuCVk
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>>31229667
Is your name Ignacio R. Morelle?
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Current Statistics:

HP: 81/81
Mana: 76/76
EXP: 6

Shards of Order and Chaos:

(Retribution) - Normal
(Maker) - Normal
(Silence) - Strong
(Peace) - Normal
(Breeze) - Normal
(Hammer) - Strong
(Ardor) - Normal
{Resolve} - Strong
{Humanity} - Resonant

--Summoned--

Wisp - 1 mana to order

--Automatons--

Vita (Shade)

--Equipment--

Utility belt with purse

--Inventory--

Aurora Water Gem (pocket)
Shade (pocket)

--Teleport Anchor--

Evinbrook Basin - on the highlands just west of the Tairns

--Current Location--

Evinbrook Basin

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Known Mana Pools:

Jacob's Field - entrance to Hecate's tomb - Spirit
Jacob's Field - Hecate's Chamber - Spirit
Palthair Mines - Magnock's Lair - Spirit
Archon - Spirit District - Spirit
Archon - Shadow District - Shadow
Archon - Earth District - Earth
Archon - Water Distric - Water
Haven - Shadow
Abbotsford - Shadow
Aurora - Water
Va'ad - South Generator - Earth
Va'ad - North Generator - Earth
Arland - Dryfeld - Water
Kan-Abar - Royal Gardens - Earth
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It's here!
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>>31229747

Not even a little bit. Who's he?

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>Last time...

You decide to take Abigail back to her room. You pick her up, holding her close. She stirs slightly. You glide down off the tower, enter through the main doors, and find your way back to the lower levels.

Her room has been softened, somewhat. The stone walls are covered in tapestries to keep the heat in. The hard bunks are flooded with colorful blankets. Ila is nowhere to be seen - perhaps she's still with Delan, or on the Nemesis, taking her own rest.

You set Abigail down on her bed. Her hand lingers on yours. "...stay," she murmurs.

"...I want to."

Abigail's eyes stay closed, but she smiles. "Then just do it."

"...Donovan and Auriel want to see each other."

Abigail sighs, and gives a soft nod. "...if it's for Sir Flint."

You brush a kiss on her lips, and draw the blankets up over her. She rolls over and grabs her pillow. "See you."

"See you."

>con't
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>>31229790
Another person who uses the title of Shadowmaster.
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You decide that you need to prioritize. First, you're curious about that Wind mana pool. Second, you need to speak with Hecate before you drop an angel on her shoulders.

You leave the castle town and fly back out to Dryfeld. Soon enough, you reach the Wind mana pool, set not too far from the Water pool. It's surrounded by a similar layer of humming steel generators and containment equipment.

You flit down between the guards and tenatively reach a tendril into the pool.

>con't
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>>31229812
>inb4 massive explosion
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>>31229844
AHHHH FUCK

FUCK ME

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

son of a god damned FUCK

FUCKING DAVE
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we will fail saving Flint ad the world will be plunged into Elementomachy 2: Electric Boogaloo
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>>31229844
Dave
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You recoil as you tendril is vaporized on contact. For that brief instant, you felt something - you heard something - something awful. It was like a scream, like every terrible sound in the world put together at once by a mad composer.

You decide it would be better not to touch the pool again, for the moment, and move off to the water mana pool. In an instant, you manaport to Hecate's Spirit mana pool.

You step away from the shore of the pool to find Adavan already there, speaking with Hecate. His back is turned to you. "Yes, several thousand, at the moment."

<Shadow,> Hecate says. <How are you?>

Adavan turns on a dime. "Oh, Shadow. When you didn't come back, I suspected you were staying the night with Abigail."

"There's a lot to do; she knows. What were you talking about?"

"A few details concerning the war effort," Adavan says, "and thereafter."

You wait a moment.

He doesn't elaborate.

<What brings you to my temporary abode, Shadow?> Hecate asks.

>ask about what she plans to do after the war
>explain that you'd like to try and bring Auriel to see Donovan
>ask her again if she'd teach Auriel Spirit magic
>some other strategy
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>>31229874
>>ask about what she plans to do after the war
>>explain that you'd like to try and bring Auriel to see Donovan
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>>31229874
>>ask about what she plans to do after the war
>>explain that you'd like to try and bring Auriel to see Donovan
Start with their plans, then once they give their explanation we can bring up the reason we came.
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>>31229874
>>explain that you'd like to try and bring Auriel to see Donovan
Also explain to her that we do need Donovan to remove the light parasite on Geb.
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>>31229874
>ask about what she plans to do after the war
>explain that you'd like to try and bring Auriel to see Donovan

Really had me scared there SM, thought for a sec Dave would just jump out of the pool.

At least it supports my theory that Erebus needed his first Arbiter as a catalyst for the annihilation event.
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>>31229925
>Also explain to her that we do need Donovan to remove the light parasite on Geb.

We do?
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>>31229925
That may be a good idea to bring up to her, if she's sympathetic with Geb...

>>31229943
Don't we? Taremtis said as much, or are we misremembering?
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>>31229943
The prophecy said so didn't it?
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Hi. Just popping into the thread for a moment to post something that scared me in my childhood.

It glowed only when your eyes adjusted to the darkness and it smelled like fresh ash. Could only see its eyes until it seemed to glow.

I don't remember how many times I saw it just that it was always in one house we lived in and always in my room when I was put to bed.

/x/iting.
I always feel heartburn when I think about it. I would wait to see it and when I saw it I was paralyzed until I woke up the next day.
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>>31229943
Prophecy bro.
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Im currently on thread 83 dammint SM
I catch up to you someday
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>>31229943
prophecy
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>>31229955
>>31229962
>>31229994

Now I have to go dig up that text again.

I thought it only went as far as Donovan needing to help you find the staff of winds (activating shit for you back on Xile was fulfilling that part of the prophecy) as the staff is key to helping Geb. But now I'm not sure.
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>>31229874
2+ broach the subject of magic and prophrcu
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You know those prophecies that the sage guy told us.

Didn't he look directly into the Nether or something like that

You know

Considering what we've recently learnt, it sounds like he might have been shown things that would lead directly to our downfall and loss.

Can you tell me straight up if I'm just shadow-running here too much SM?
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Rolled 13

>>31229943
>we do?

it's happened. There's too much lore for SM to remember
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>>31229874
Y'know that's a pretty sexy pose for a lich, took me a while to notice but I can see what Hecate sees in Adavan I think.
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>>31229991
Sounds like sleep paralysis. Your body enters sleep mode, but your mind is still active.
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>>31229962
>>31229994

Hecate might not give a shit about Taremtis's half-assed prophecies. She's been pretty dismissive of the mortals she's not directly allied.
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>>31230026
<How can I bring the Earth Elemental, Geb, back to sanity?>

"Remove the curse upon Sir Flint - his power will be needed, or you will die in your quest. Then, speak with Yi Fang, the Lich of Archon. Seek his aid in acquiring the Staff of Winds. The staff will part the storm holding Geb captive. The parasite of Light keeps him mad. You must - "
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>>31230092

Thanks, I was just realizing for the 5th time that SQ 26 is not properly archived in sup/tg/ and was about to go hunting in Foolz

I really should have written that all down in my notes at the time, usually I make a point of that.
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>>31230088
Then we tell her that it was the same mortal that told us the prophecy that we needed to open her gate with the four keys in the first place.
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>>31230106
>suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/25019525/
It was this thread.
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Well thanks!
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Rolled 5, 1, 2, 5 = 13

For some reason, I see Adavan as this guy.
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>>31230220
i like this better
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Hey, I was wondering around youtube one day when I found this song that I think would work with this quest. What do you guys think? I recommend turning up the volume or finding a really big bass speaker to get the full effect. You need it to be like, chest rumbling, lung vibrating loud, but it's pretty awesome. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8xL26bU218
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"A few things," you tell Hecate. "The conversation we had with Hemmelus the other day makes me wonder - what exactly are you planning to do after the war?"

Hecate muses for a moment. <I shall gather once more the mages whose souls are locked in Spirit, that I may further a cause of perfection and harmony in society. Adavan tells me that the new country Archon is such a place. I cannot dither here while my people lack their guide; for I have returned, and with me, my guidance. Shalt I restore to them their former glory? I must, for I do possess the growthing strength to act in such a manner." She tilts her head. "And beyond; my purpose shall be to relieve Geb of his suffering, that he might walk proudly once more, and attend to those of his that have survived, his own treelings.>

"Treelings?"

<Elves, in the spoken language,> she says. <Geb was always...an odd sort. Passive, playful, at times, with his treelings and his rocklings. But the dwarves did not survive, so I am told. It is a sad thing.>

"...it is. Do you know what happened to Va'ad?"

<I was embroiled with Raijin, at the time,> she says. <Va'ad was attacked by Aeolus himself. Geb arrived too late to make much a difference, I understand. Geb raised the volcano, then, in furious wrath, and pursued Aeolus across the lands to the southeast. Hyperion sought to aid his ally, and you aided Geb. Only you did not aid him for long.>

>con't
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"I see." You clear your throat. "On that very note, it was prophesied that Sir Donovan Flint's power would be needed to clear Geb of the light-parasite."

<Prophesied? A Wind mage still owns that maddening power?>

"A sage by the name of Taremtis, living in Tarun Gakth."

<Indeed?> Hecate says. <I shan't place much faith in the honeyed words of an upstart gust of wind, but if your knight lives through his ordeal, he should perhaps bolster our combined efforts.>

"He will. And he will." You step forward. "If you're willing, Hecate, I want to ask from you a favor."

<You ask many, of late. But I shall help as I can.>

"...would you be willing to bring Auriel to see Donovan?"

Hecate sighs. <Of the angels I wish nary a glance. It is your word that stays my wrath, Shadow, or I should have plotted their swift deaths in these passing days, the rats of Hyperion left to slay and enslave my children. The woman Auriel denies her Spirit. In so doing, she denies me. I have no business with her, and no pity to spare.>

What do you do?

>try again; emphasize that was then, and this is now
>appeal to Adavan for aid
>some other strategy
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>>31230220
>>31230531
10000% Canon
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Soooo...we doing that thing?
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>>31230564
"She's actually taking lessons from Abigail now."
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>>31230564
Tell her that she has recently been embracing hre spirit.
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>>31230564
>>try again; emphasize that was then, and this is now
>>appeal to Adavan for aid
Addy halp
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>>31230564
>try again; emphasize that was then, and this is now
Say that we've had some success in having her embrace her Spirit, even if it was only to help save Flint. Another piece of the prophecy from the sage.

Maybe say something about how she seemed sick of being an angel back at the bar that one time we spied on her and almost relieved to have her wings burned off by that demon lord (or whatever metaphor you want to use. 'Burned' seems right, but not good enough).
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>>31230564
>The woman Auriel denies her Spirit
She doesn't anymore, in fact, she needs spirit to save Donovan, that was also Prophesied, and she is currently training herself with it.
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>>31230564
Soooo she's gonna try and conquer Archon, eh?
By "becoming their guide" eheheheheh.
Hmm. Might want to warn Abby about that perhaps...

Also wasn't Abigail teaching Auriel spirit as of late? I recall she's almost learned how to mindspeak or something?
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>>31230564
>>try again; emphasize that was then, and this is now
Everything is changing, we are a prime example of that. Old grudges need to be put aside if we want any chance of avoiding another Elementomachy.
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>>31230564

>Appeal to Adavan for aid

"In recent years, Auriel has seen the injustices committed by Hyperion - and been stripped of her Angelic status no less. You might find it interesting that she has learned to use her spirit, after all these years. Adavan - you have your doubts about Auriel - doesn't she merit at least a meeting with Hecate? And Hecate - if you seek to rebuild a nation, you must understand the views of those who dwell there. Discussions with a former Highest may do well to serve your purpose."

>the goal here being that a) Hecate brings Auriel to Flint's dream and b) maybe Auriel talking with Hecate over a period will get Hecate to loosen the fuck up
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>>31230220
>>31230531
Nope
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>>31230564
This >>31230616
"The former highest has allied herself with the known incarnate of Shadow. People may change, if given the chance."
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>>31230564
Why do I get the feeling that Hecate behind Archon is it's own complete pot of trouble, I mean... Hecate returns from the "dead" and then BAM, she decides to suddenly lead Archon? More than a couple people will be interested in that idea.
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>>31230564
>The woman Auriel denies her Spiri
But she isn't doing that anymore?

She's got Abigail to train her hasn't she?
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>>31230564
Hecate gonna steal Archon from Abigail!
DON'T MESS WITH OUR WAIFU, BIATCH.
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>>31230768
Just wait till Fang hears
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>>31230730

That's a big problem, but not as a big as Hecate's current support in this battle.

Let her think that Archon will welcome her presence for now - we have nothing to gain by telling her it won't be easy or that Abigail will gleefully cede control of the country that Yi Fang built from sweat and blood and little else.
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>>31230564
If not Auriel, can we have her teach Abby-Sabby? It would help Abby directly and indirectly help Auriel.
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Now that Hecate's and probably the other Elementals motives are known we must be sure to secure hegemony over Venia after Elementomachy 2: Electric Boogaloo, Haven calls dibs on Heavensgate and the Ringed City.
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>mfw the elemental lords don't realize they're relics from a bygone age
>mfw they try to reimpose themselves into power forcefully
>mfw when, after all this trouble, we have to terminate them anyways
>mfw Temerity was right all along
>mfw when no face
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>>31230546
>that I may further a cause of perfection and harmony in society.
...

Oh boy. Ancient spirit mages... what were they like exactly? Like Adavan? And Magnock?

Sounding real dangerous with your nationbuilding there Hecky-kun.
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>>31230801
That is a pretty good idea.
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Anybody else thing Fang is going to use Crazy Suicide Blood Magic to kill Sandalthong?

After his little statement of "before this is over, I WILL kill Sandalphon"
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>>31230828
It should be fine as long as we Secure a solid Hegemony backed by nations and thousands of troops.
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>>31230831
Y'know, maybe Taremtis' word would be good there.

What makes society isn't perfection or harmony, but disharmony. Much like the elementals and how they make up the world, harmony isn't possible; unless you wanted to eliminate the things that make it what it is.
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>>31230909
Conflict is what moves the world.
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>>31230931
Peace sucks a hairy asshole, Hecate. War is the motherfucking answer.
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>>31230564
"Join with yesterday's foe to fight fate, and take tomorrow's path in your own hands!"
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<Auriel isn't denying her Spirit any longer,> you say. <It was also prophesied that she needed to embrace Spirit, or suffer the consequences. She may be doing it just to save Donovan, but she is all the same. For the moment, her wings are gone, and at times I swear she's glad for it. She knows what I am, and she accepts me. She has changed, Hecate, as the world has. You must recognize that.>

<But has it?> Hecate says. <I dare not move into the open until the appointed hour, lest the wrath of the light rats be strewn upon my shoulders. Though surely I might visit upon them ruination if they dared strike at me, I cannot now with demons harping upon the fabrics of the world.>

"...my lady," Adavan says.

<Oh?> Hecate turns to Adavan. <You pity her, then, Lien? An angel among those that stole your life away?>

"...we have our differences," Adavan says, "and they have been set aside, if not settled. But the knight, Sir Donovan Flint, is the best of men this world can make. If we are crooked timber, then he is the sole straight crossbeam that holds up the roof."

<You speak highly of a light-souled man.>

"He deserves it," Adavan says. "If not for Auriel, then for him. Please let them see each other again."

<...I hesitate to grant her comfort at my expense.>

"If...if it were me," Adavan says, "I...don't make them beg, my lady. Please."

Hecate is still.

<...bring her to me, Shadow.>

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>con't
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You knock on Auriel's door in the castle. The wood raps under your knuckles.

<...is that you, Shadow?>

<Yes. I see you really can talk like this, now.>

<What is it?>

<I've spoken with Hecate. She said she'd take you to see Donovan.>

You hear footsteps. The door flies open. Auriel is in her nightclothes - understandable, given the hour.

Her eyes are red; her eyes are bloodshot.

"...are you alright?" you ask.

"What? I'm fine. Never better."

"You look tired."

"I said I'm fine," Auriel says. "Were you serious, just now?"

"Deadly."

"Alright. Give me five minutes to put myself together."

"Are you sure you're - "

"Just a little trouble sleeping," Auriel says. "I've had worse." She shuts the door.

She's tough...but not invincible. Things must be starting to rub around the edges. Still, if you didn't see her just now, you wouldn't have suspected that things were getting to her.

This trip might be just what she needs. You're glad you decided to go out of your way.

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>con't
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>>31231142
hecate ur a bitch
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You stand at the edge of the water mana pool. You're glad you don't have to sneak anymore, given Arcturis's open allegiance with Haven, but you keep a lot profile anyway. No need to draw unneeded attention. The angels probably have eyes and ears to the ground, just in case.

You take Auriel's arm and manaport to Hecate's chamber.

You step away from the pool, walking Auriel forward. She faces the Goddess or Spirit. You hear her swallow audibly.

<Greetings, Auriel.>

Auriel hesitates for a moment. She lowers her head. <Lady Hecate.>

<So you do know Spirit.> Hecate steps to the side, beginning to pace around you and Auriel. <Here cometh the day the servants of Hyperion abandon the Light, then?>

<I haven't abandoned the Light,> she says. <Just learned a bit extra.>

<For love, so it seems.>

<Yeah. Is that a problem?>

You wince slightly.

Hecate chuckles. <It is no problem for me, but I fear it may be for you.> Hecate stops, and raises her hand. <Come, wing-clipped angel. I will show you to your lover.>

Auriel slowly reaches out and takes Hecate's glowing hand. They two of them resonate with Spirit. They walk forward together, and slowly vanish into thin air, disappeared into the tunnel of the Dream Walk.

"Thanks for helping, Adavan."

"Like I said. Flint deserves it."

You have a chance to speak with Adavan alone. Do you ask him anything?
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>>31231210
"About Archon. Have you explained to Hecate that the Council might not be amenable to her return? She is, after all, a major threat to their power."
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>>31231210
Tell him that if Hecate causes strife after he war we will be forced to intervene.
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>>31231198
She's essentially a God. Asking her to display empathy is like asking cats to describe prose.
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>>31231210
"What exactly does Hecate have planned for Archon? Certainly she does not wish to supplant Abigail, correct?"
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>>31231210
"How does one go about exactly, of furthering a cause of perfection and harmony in society?"
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>>31231210
"How are you holding up?"
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>>31231260
We did it just fine.
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>>31231238
>>31231267
>>31231268

All of these pls, especially that third one.
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>>31231210

"I'm glad that your Lady has returned, Adavan. Thank you for your patience, all this time. I know that I ask much from my friends - and I hope I can count you as one so long as we both live...which may be a very long time, indeed."

Smile and shake that nigguh's hand.
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Ask him to take it a bit slow after the war. Hecate still obviously thinks in the old ways, and that could be a big problem for everyone.
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>>31231281
We lost all of our past memories and were forced to rely on humans. Hecate is stuck in a room and can't forget about the war. She might come around, but she's going to need some time.
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>>31231247
seconding.

Short and sweet and gets the point across
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>>31231210
"Adavan. Hecate talks like you did when we first met." raise a brow
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>>31231307
To eloquent for us.
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>>31231210
Ask his opinion of eating the aurora water crystal
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>>31231316
THIS. Absolutely this.
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>>31231358

I dunno, we've been doing some hardcore politicking in the last few months. Eventually Shadow will have to stop being autistic and begin leading people - directing armies and shit.
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After the war we need to set some firm ground rules with Leviathan, Hecate, and Geb Its when we would have the best position diplomatically.
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>>31231392
>stop being autistic
>On Autism Awareness Day
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>>31231450
>mfw Leviathan just says "My heirs are fucking swamp people? Really? Fuck your swamp! Now it's an ice swamp! Enjoy your frozen frogs motherfuckers!

>mfw Geb is all "Welp. Now that that's done I'm gonna bring steward to diplomance with the Elves! Nothing can go wrong, hey shadow can you back me up on this one?"

>mfw Hecate is all "Mine! All mine! Ahahahahahaahaha! BEHOLD YOUR NEW SPIRIT LORD ARCHON AND DESPAAAAIIIR!"
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>>31231210
"Adavan, asphinctersayswhat?"
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>>31231527
>Enjoy your frozen frogs motherfuckers!
Leviathan confirmed for Cirno.
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>>31231210
Tell him that he should ask Hecate out. We know some good places they could go.
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"How are you holding up?" you ask him.

"Well enough," Adavan says. "I...well, frankly, Shadow, I've accomplished what I've been trying to do since I woke back up. She's back. My Goddess has returned."

"I'm happy for you," you say. "I'm glad I could help. She'll be a powerful ally, and a good friend, I'm sure. But..."

"But," Adavan says. "I know. She's lingering in the past. I can't blame her. A part of me feels the same way...wants to go back to how things were."

"What do you mean?"

"All that remained of that grand fortress in which I was buried was the main tower," Adavan says. "The rest, eviscerated by Raijin. You never saw the kingdoms, Shadow, the cities. The societies. The population of Venia still hasn't recovered. The only thing that comes close to the prosperity of those times is the Ringed City, and even that is mostly an empty shell, maintained by so few angels the halls echo from the emptiness."

"...so she wants to bring back that prosperity?"

"Yes. She...well, you're different, I suppose. You've become more human, to whatever extent that's possible. She is a leader by right of the universe. She is a higher existence. You are, too. You just don't claim the right."

"I'm just like anyone else, Adavan."

He shakes his head. "Humility aside, Shadow, you don't understand. The angels do, though. Why do you think they're so afraid? So incessantly paranoid, so intolerant? They're frightened of the return of Hecate. Of your return. They remember the power, the sheer, earth-rattling power wielded by nature's gods. Your wills created our most glorious empires; your battles carved the shape of Venia itself. We were but ants under the feet of titans.

"A few men recognize that. I know Arcturis and Duke Vellik, especially, would resent the imposition of the Elemental Lords. I've no idea how fang would react."

>con't
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You absorb that all for a moment, then glance back up at him. "What is between you two, exactly?"

"I don't know." Adavan sighs. "Sometimes, I think we're close. That I'm her confidant, her...something. Other times, she's unknowable. It was always like that."

"She respects your opinion, though. She seems more flexible when it's you."

"...maybe."

"Have you explained to Hecate that the Council might not be amenable to her return? You're right - I think Fang might balk. Or worse. And Abigail, too - she's just coming into her own as their leader. A disruption might not be the best thing right now, not when everything's so sensitive."

Adavan is silent.

"...Adavan?"

"...you'll have to ask her yourself. I don't know."

"You're her general."

"I can't say."

You feel a sense of unease. Adavan is evading something. "...how does one go about exactly, of furthering a cause of perfection and harmony in society?" you ask.

"With power comes responsibility," Adavan says. "Hecate always believed that."

"What aren't you telling me?"

Adavan looks at you. "She is a god. What would happen if you had a disagreement with a god?"

"...I'd try to reason things out."

"And if that failed?"

"Well...I'd do what I had to do."

"Yes," he says, "you would. And anyone but would be squashed like a bug."

"What are you trying to say?"

"She can hear everything that is said telepathically," Adavan says suddenly. "If she is close enough, there is no privacy."

"She can?"

And then you feel Spirit. Hecate and Auriel return from their walk.

Auriel is flushed. Her breathing comes deep. But there's a bright and shining expression on her face, locked there like all the happiness in the world suddenly struck her.

What do you do?

>ask Hecate about Leviathan
>some other strategy
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>>31231638
"You hittin' that, bro? Givin' her the ole funny bone? Summoning her wisps? Is she siphoning your spirit?"
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>>31231694
>ask Hecate about Leviathan
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>>31231694
>>ask Hecate about Leviathan
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>>31231694
>ask Hecate about Leviathan
Also,

>"She can hear everything that is said telepathically," Adavan says suddenly. "If she is close enough, there is no privacy."

HOLY

SHIT

EVERYONE OPEN A NOTEPAD AND COPY PASTE THAT RIGHT THE FUCK NOW

"perfect society" my ass
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>>31231766

She basically wants Spirit-Fascism.

Hecate is basically Girl!Hitler
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>>31231766
Ehhh... Might do Archon some good.

A god with limited omniscience is a pretty good deterrent against constant murder plots.
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>>31231694

Holy shit, guys. Maybe Erebus was just trying to create a world without gods and magic and titans who can obliterate nations at will.

Maybe we're more like Erebus than we know - maybe Erebus was just trying to create a world that could develop naturally.

An ordered world.
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>>31231782
That is probably nothing compared to what most of the others wanted.

And i bet her range isn't that far.
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>>31231782
HECLER PLS GO
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>>31231795
Oh.

Shit.
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>>31231694
>how does one go about exactly, of furthering a cause of perfection and harmony in society?
>What would happen if you had a disagreement with a god?
>She can hear everything that is said telepathically, there is no privacy.

So she snuffed people out that would disagree with her society. I have a feeling Adavan just shared something incredibly pertinent with us.
Hecate may be a greater dick than Hyperion if she doesn't change her ways...
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>>31231795
But Earth a shit.

Humans will always find earth shattering power.
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>>31231694
That raises a really interesting point. How exactly do you debate against an incarnation of reality? If she doesn't agree with us, what can we do? We can just barely take out high end mages, I doubt we would last in a tussle against a God.

Fuck, I don't think we thought this out long term enough.
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And Hecate was one of the "reasonable" ones.

She thinks Leviathan is an ass.

Do you really want to let the water god out of the rock?

Eat the rock.
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>>31231821
We could take her right now.

She is kinda weak.
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>>31231829
Maybe she thinks Leviathan was an ass because he was fair and kind, r-right? yeah? ...

oh booooy
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We'll really have to consider destroying even the lesser elemental lords once we're approaching our pinnacle of power. They'll just all end up being evil in different ways.

On a related note, the sealing of the core of Chaos will likely stop new mages from ever being born.

We'll bring the age of mortals.
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>>31231829
Leviathan is probably just a moody guy.
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>>31231855
Fuck earth.

And Shadow mages would still be a thing.
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>>31231793
It's also directly against Shadows idea of 'choosing who you are.'
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>>31231820

Earth has been historically shit, yes, but you can't deny we're on a huge upswing in technology and achievement lately (as in, the last 2000 years).
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>>31231855
Sealing the core of Chaos might prevent any humans from being born at all, period.
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>>31231855

We subsume all the Elemental Lords into the Core and bind ourselves into the Shell of Order.

All magic in the world disappears. But as our last act we create a human with all our memories named John Nyx, so that he can live the rest of his life with Abigail.
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>>31231795
No Gods or Kings. Only Man.
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>>31231882

Hecate will still have to abide by treaty and the word of the other Elemental Lords, assuming that we end up freeing everyone.

I'm seeing a kind of Elemental Venia United Nations, with us as the undisputed head. Of course, everyone is still butthurt from the Elementomachy so this is probably not possible.
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>>31231855
The only difference between mundane souls and mage souls is that mage souls just have -more- chaos in them. They're still made of the same stuff.
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>>31231855
>>31231896
Humans and mages were being born just fine before the core got ruptured during the shadow wars between Melody/Archon/Sandy.

Sealing the breach would just restore it to what it was before.

Now, sealing it completely from the ley lines of mana... ehehehehe, that's another thing entirely.
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>>31231916

You know, in some respects, Shadow is libertarian as fuck.

Personal choice and morals above all. Kind of unexpected for /tg/, if you ask me.
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>>31231694
Let's ask this later,
"So Auriel, how would you describe the role of the elementals in the world of politics."
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>>31231960
Most people are libertarian and just don't know it.

The most under represented political ideology.
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>>31231960
Who is John Nyx?
SM confirmed for Ayn Rand
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>>31232000

I'd be obligated to go hunt him down and beat him to death with a golf club if that were the case.
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>>31232000
You are literally worse than Hitler.
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>>31231960
It's because he's black
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>>31232044
I thought Shadow was a jew
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>>31232054
So he's a black Jew. So what?
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>>31232054
He's a black jewish libertarian who campaigns for freedom of choice and equality.
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>>31231960
We must embrace the Paul and become it.

We will be a politician like Venia has never before seen.
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"I hope everything went well," you say.

Auriel nods to you. She leaves Hecate's side, but looks back, and bows deeply. "...thank you. I - thank you."

<Do remember your debt, angel. And know that I am not an unfeeling Elemental. Think of what pain you might feel if he was lost to you, and remember the times you slayed my people. That will be punishment enough for you.>

Auriel seems debates a response, but eventually settles on silence.

"Hecate," you say, "I had meant to discuss revitalizing Leviathanwith you."

You inform them of your plan of possibly unleashing Leviathan on Sandalphon so as to distract the distraction.

<...it cannot portend well,> Hecate says.

"No?"

<The dried-out peninsula where Kan-Abar now rests was once a great swamp,> Hecate says. <The hills forming its border were a favored battleground of Leviathan and Logi. Once Leviathan sealed himself, under your direction, Logi seared the entire tip of the continent to desert. That was just before I sealed myself away.>

"...I thought Logi was more a diplomat. More reasonable, like yourself."

>con't
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>>31232079

You know, we're probably going to have to do this.

Erebus was obviously autistic as fuck and look where it got him? Fragmented into a ton of shards and completely buttfucked Venia in the process.

Erebus was probably trying to fix a structural deficit in Venia's reality itself to achieve order.

Maybe we should shoot for "stewardship" or active management.
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<We fought,> Hecate says, <for fifty years. At times, we held back, for fear of our own powers clashing. But at the end, there was no strife we would not risk, no thought to the consequences. Talk had long since ended. In sealing ourselves away, Shadow, we paid the price of sacrificing those we still had left to defend. But we would have been killed ourselves, had we not, or tortured in a trap like Geb still is. Your plan of action was all we had left. You see then, why my anger simmers? Why I do not turn aside at your first pleading words? I threw many into the fire, The Fire, so that I might escape for this very moment of retribution, a moment I've waited for 700 years, to be told suddenly that the plan is no more and that our goals were but wrapped in hidden malfeasance of still greater magnitude.> She seems to take a moment's breath. <If you unlocked Leviathan's might, he would help you, yes. And he would destroy Kan-Abar, that city of fire mages. Unopposed, he would bury that peninsula in a flood driven in an icy storm dredged up from the depths of the ocean. If that is the distraction you seek, then it is indeed at your fingertips.>

What do you do now?

>take Auriel back home
>ask Hecate something else
>some other strategy
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>>31232116

All things considered, that's an extremely effective plan.

But we can't afford to lose Kan Abar. Not yet.
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>>31232116

"I see. Then perhaps it was lucky I chose to unseal you first. I appreciate your wisdom, Hecate."

>Releasing Leviathan has now been classified as Class 1 Retard Plan.
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>>31232116
Sounds like Hecate wants to be the only Elemental lord we free. But damn, gods are dicks in this setting.
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>>31232116
I just want to eat the gem.
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>>31232151
Yep
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>>31232116
"You are right, in more ways than one. Perhaps amends can be made in the future; but thank you for your advice."
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>>31232116
Let's free him anyway. I'm sure we can negotiate with him!
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>>31232156

You have an excellent point in that Hecate could be lying to us. How would we know?

At any rate, Leviathan sperging out and destroying all of Kan-Abar is obviously not something we are prepared to deal with. Releasing Leviathan should be tabled for now.
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>>31232188
yeahNO
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>>31232188

Hey guys, it's the poster who wanted to talk to Matthel!
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>>31232194
>How would we know?
All the hints that she's a manipulative and controlling bitch that uses peoples emotions against them and engenders the idea of a society like that? Every update this thread makes me trust Hecates opinions less and less. Particularly that moment of spite she just threw at Auriel.
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I think Hecate needs a good hard fucking.
Can we re-seal her?
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>>31232194
>How would we know?
One god that wants a perfect society doesn't want other gods to ruin that plan. Still, Leviathan a no-no for now.
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>>31232221
Dude, chill out.

Hecate has been chill as fuck so far. You try forgetting a war where most of the people you were responsible for were killed.
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>>31232223
S-shadow-kun, that's not where your magic goes!
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>>31232188
Agreed and I doubt that Levihanta will have his full power soon after being released, we can talk him in not destroying Kan-Abar.
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>>31232240
I'll chill when she's no longer a threat to the sacred city of my waifu, biatch.

>>31232116
CONSUUUUUME
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>>31232221
>>31232240

Unfortunately, I think both of you are right. Hecate is probably a manipulative bitch who wants Nazi Archon, but she's also very weakened and she wants Hyperion free even less than we do.
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>>31232264
Fuck off.
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>>31232240
I'm pretty chill man, just pointing out the facts. Don't come crying to me when Hecate was playing you the ways people though Adavan was playing us.
Because she's the one that would.

>>31232264
You aren't helping, sir.
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>>31232285
paranoia
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So, are we done here for now?
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>>31232240
>Hecate has been chill as fuck so far. You try forgetting a war where most of the people you were responsible for were killed.
Hecate pls go.

What we just heard gave us a great reason to distrust her, considering she manipulates her own general who dedicated his whole life to fighting for her and trying to unseal her.
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Why we don't consume Auriel?
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>>31232301
Yup. Ask Auriel embarrassing questions later.
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>>31232311
She never manipulated him.
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>>31232299
Justified paranoia, given how she's been. Though I still think we're too limited in our options for dealing with it realistically.

>>31232301
Yep. Let's get goin.
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>>31232301

I vote yes. Discussion of Hecate being a lying hoor or not will have to wait for later
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>>31232330
Maybe manipulated wasn't the right word there.

Re-read this post >>31231694
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So how about that list of stuff we were doing?
>test a shadowy appendage in the Wind mana pool [X]
>speak to Hecate about Leviathan [X]
>collect strong rocks for kinetic bombardment
>meditate all shards to MAXIMUM POWER
>attempt to reach the Kan-Abar Fire mana pool and disrupt the city's defensive towers
>attempt to steal enemy airships and feed them to the Nemesis/give them to allies
>check in with Ila and Auriel about Lord Waterford's slave ring
>ask Auriel if she made any progress with Raphael and Charmeine
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>>31232362
Nothing in there even slightly implies manipulaition
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>>31232395
>>attempt to reach the Kan-Abar Fire mana pool and disrupt the city's defensive towers

>>check in with Ila and Auriel about Lord Waterford's slave ring

You can get rid of these two, it's safe to say we won't be doing them before the battle.
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>>31232395
>Gather Exp
>Visit the Shiprakers for ship parts
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>>31232395
I don't think we're gonna be touching the Fire pool after what happened in the Wind pool
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>>31232395

We can collect the rocks in an hour or two.

I vote for DANGEROUS NIGHT MISSION in KAN-ABAR, a CITY overrun with DEMONS and WIZARDS.
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>>31232437
Wrong type of ships.

We need Airship parts, those are sea ships.
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>>31232450
Sound fun, let's do it.
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>>31232424
>>31232442

We can Erasure the fire pool, we don't have to touch it.

No defensive towers on the city would be a huge factor and it's worth considering.
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>>31232450
Please stop begin fucking retarded.
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>>31232471
You really think we can get there without the Demon Lord noticing?

They're on high alert right now after Delan.
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>>31232401
It implies that he has tried reasoning with her before in the past, with little result.

And it's because she's like us. She decides upon what she perceives to be the best course of action for everyone, and then does it, regardless of whether or not they want it. They don't even fit into the equation - She'll help them, and they have no say. In this case, that 'help' happens to be Magical Psychic Thought Police.

Basically, Adavan is implying that arguing with gods is really hard because they're fucking gods, they can wipe you out with a thought and that level of power inherently causes them to believe they know better than you.
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>>31232401
>"She is a god. What would happen if you had a disagreement with a god?"
>"...I'd try to reason things out."
>"And if that failed?"
>I'd do what I had to do."
> "you would. And anyone but would be squashed like a bug."
>"She can hear everything that is said telepathically," Adavan says suddenly. "If she is close enough, there is no privacy."

Adavan just all but told us that Hecate squashed any resistance to her in her society, she can hear other people's telepathy, do you think this was common knowledge? Adavan just revealed a secret I bet only he knew.
Hecate is tyrannical.
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>>31232401
Adavan basically said anyone that disagrees with Hecate may be squashed like a bug and that she can hear everything that is said telepathically, and if closeby there's no privacy, all after questioning him about her perfect society and his 'power comes with responsibility' quip.

That's not "technically" direct manipulation. It is, however... not terribly great.
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>>31232496
>>31232494
You guys are taking worst scenario.

She may have allowed those who disagreed to stay, she probably didn't kill them for disagreeing.
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>>31232455
But they are still parts.
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>>31232484

I think we could give it a shot. We lose nothing but trying.

The Demon Lord won't chase us across Venia and we're about to mount a huge invasion anyways. They're expecting spies and subterfuge. I just think we're a better spy than they could detect.

If we can disable Kan-Abar's main defense, we're going into the battle with a huge tactical advantage.

If you guys don't want to do the Fire Pool Erasure thing, then we should at least try to hijack some of their airships and feed them to the Nemesis.
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>>31232520
Do you really wanna out wood into the nemesis?
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>>31232494
>And it's because she's like us. She decides upon what she perceives to be the best course of action for everyone, and then does it, regardless of whether or not they want it.

Since when have we done this?
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>>31232496
>Adavan just all but told us that Hecate squashed any resistance to her in her society,
Not seeing the problem, we do the same thing.
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>>31232532
>We lose nothing but trying.
except death
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"I'll consider your words carefully," you tell Hecate. "Thank you for helping me, and Auriel."

"You are welcome to it, Shadow. Fare thee well."

You manaport with Auriel back to Arland, and walk her to her room.

At her door, she turns to you. "No awkward questions about what happened? I'm impressed."

"My mind was elsewhere."

"...yeah." Auriel frowns. "...Hecate...can we trust her?"

"We can trust her to be Hecate. I'm just not sure what that means, yet."

"...you're not planning on letting Leviathan free, are you?"

"No. Not after that. There are a lot of innocent people in Kan-Abar. If Hecate truly thinks that Leviathan would react that badly..."

"Yeah. My thoughts exactly. Shadow, one god is enough. People are finally getting along without them."

"What about Hyperion?"

"...that's different," she says, "but not at the cost Sandalphon is comfortable with. Donovan's life. A massive war."

"Keep working on your Spirit."

"I will. Abigail and I will be working together again, tomorrow. I'm going to try and perform a Spirit Siphon."

"I wish you the best, then. Did you make any progress with Raphael or Charmeine?"

Auriel smiles. "Well...they listened to me. Charmeine...I didn't get far. She begged me to come back to the Ring City. She..." Auriel looks down. "That was hard. But she can't budge. She feels like she's a pin keeping the city from separating. Apparently I gave a voice to a lot of concerns that had been building up. My return would help heal things, but...I can't condone what Sandalphon is doing."

"And Raphael?"

"He said he wanted to talk to you. He and Joey were in the castle town's training grounds this morning. Maybe you can find them there again tomorrow."

"I see. Well...good night, then."

She nods, and closes the door. "Night."

>con't
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>>31232518
And you're taking best scenario, which from what we know of the other on her level, is incredibly naive. Leviathan wants to drown a city, Logi scorched a swamp to desert out of spite, Aeolus destroyed an entire race, Fucking Hyperion created the tyrannical angel cult, Erebus wanted to destroy fucking everything... we're batting 0 outta a thousand, and you're saying, 'w-w-well, maybe she's different!'

Forgive us our skepticism.
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>>31232573
We can teleport
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You think as you slowly pace back down the hall the other way. Releasing Leviathan isn't an option, now. But what about after the war? Would he be any better controlled, then, or a god barely held back from an all-out rampage? Would Hecate even help you stop him? She might be content to watch, for all you can predict.

Maybe it would be better to get rid of this problem. Maybe...destroy it, in the best way you know how.

...maybe.

"Greetings, Shadow."

You glance up at the metallic voice. Steward is standing at the end of the hall, strict an sturdy. "Steward? Hello."

"Good evening. Query: We wish to construct an embassy within Haven. Query: We wish to further fortify your defensive emplacements. Query: we wish to construct manufacturing facilities and mines beneath the central fortress."

What do you say?

>yes to all
>yes to some
>some other strategy
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>>31232573

We can flee from a single Demon Lord who has to remain the city for the upcoming battle. We can always turn out and head out if we see that there's just no chance we can infiltrate the city again.

I just think that ignoring this potentially huge tactical advantage would be a mistake.
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>>31232518
>And anyone but would be squashed like a bug.
>would be squashed like a bug.
>squashed like a bug.
>squashed
>like a bug
I'm sure you're right, maybe we should talk to her about it? Get her to clear it up for us?
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>>31232599
Cannot be done in combat.

Extremely easy to disrupt.

So if the Demon Lord finds us we die.
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>>31232615

"Begin at once for all initiatives. Keep me updated on potential problems. Thank you, Steward."
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>>31232615
No to everything.
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>>31232615
>yes to some

Auriel and Tyrael know more about this than I do.
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>>31232615
YES GOES IN ALL FIELDS
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For reference:

Pre-Battle Stuff List:

Outstanding:

>speak with Raphael in the morning?
>collect strong rocks for kinetic bombardment
>meditate all shards to MAXIMUM POWER
>attempt to reach the Kan-Abar Fire mana pool and disrupt the city's defensive towers
>attempt to steal enemy airships and feed them to the Nemesis/give them to allies
>check in with Ila and Auriel about Lord Waterford's slave ring

Completed:

>test a shadowy appendage in the Wind mana pool
>speak to Hecate about Leviathan
>ask Auriel if she made any progress with Raphael and Charmeine
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>>31232637

Agreed
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>>31232615
yes to embassy and fortifications. hold on the factories for the moment. Let's make sure all bad data is scrubbed before we let them within arm's reach of us.
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>>31232618
>The strongest demon lord with lightning and wind magic
>the fastest two higher elements
>he also has generals who are all insane tier mages
We would probably die.
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>>31232541
It was kind of thrown in our face during the Archonium arc. You really didn't notice that? SM was being less than subtle about it.
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>>31232615
Yes. We'll need a fallback point in case Sandalphon wants to strike at us directly and the Nemesis' main port is a good place for that, even though most of Haven is the Nemesis.
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>>31232615
yes to all
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>>31232615
>yes to some
First two sound good, need more details on number 3
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>>31232658
>check in with Ila and Auriel about Lord Waterford's slave ring
>speak with Raphael in the morning?
>attempt to reach the Kan-Abar Fire mana pool and disrupt the city's defensive towers
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>>31232615
... Am I just overly paranoid because of Adavan, but isn't Steward advanced enough in his AI to leave out the 'Query' bit? I don't remember him ever saying that before. Is this really Steward?
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>>31232615
Yes to first two. Request further details / discussion on three.
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>>31232615

Steward is pretty dependably not retarded, so I think there is no downside to allowing him to mechanize our home base.
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>>31232702
Jesus christ if SM pulled something that subtle on me at this point I'll run out of drink so fast my liver won't know what hit it.
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>>31232658
Can we ask steward how the rockdrop will go with the skysever around?
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>>31232615
First two, absolutely. Third? Query that!
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>>31232702
holy shit you are right, and where is the Steward pic the usually appears when Steward talks?
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>>31232702
Yes he should be.
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>>31232702
I noticed that too, but I thought SM had just watched something involving HK-47.
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>>31232702
It's a fake! You almost tricked me SM!
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>inb4 SM balking in front of his screen at yours guys' paranoia
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>>31232736

I dunno about you, but I plan on dropping the rocks while nosediving at supersonic speeds. Even the Skysever has been shown to have a "speed limit".
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>>31232837
>implying our paranoia is not completely justified
Get out of here 002!
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Query: Why the paranoia? I'm the same as I've always bee//,n. Don't you t23ru64st me, S6had2oW?
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>>31232837
The thing is we don't know if SM is just having an off day with his writing. It's hard to do subtle in quest format.
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>>31232722
Except that it potentially gives him a major foothold in our ground port.
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>>31232837
>Implying he's not pissed we saw through his ruse

He had this big ol' twist coming, and we ruined it by spotting the thread.
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>>31232895
Whaaat? Are you implying that he's awaiting Gebs return to the point where he's planning contingencies should we disagree with his God?

No waaaaay! U crazy man.
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>>31232895

Steward knows that we can eat his brains in Va'ad and is probably our most stalwart ally besides Flint.

Steward paranoia is totally unjustified.
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Jesus christ the fucking shadowruns today.
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>>31232924
Robots make the best liars. Especially AI of a race uplifted by Geb.
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>>31232945
It's called Shadow Quest, bro.
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>>31232949

I swear to God you've been shitposting this whole fucking thread.
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>>31232924
The paranoia isn't that Steward is going to betray us. The paranoia is... Is this actually Steward we're talking to?
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>>31232702

Really? I thought he'd used the "query" thing when asking questions before. I was just writing him in-character. You can take a sigh of relief. The Hecate scene is getting you paranoid.

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"Well, those first two?" you say. "Go right ahead. But about the others. What exactly did you have in mind?"

"Currently," Steward says, "facilities in Va'ad are relatively distant from the surface. Mass teleporation of replacement units is prohibitively energy intensive. Generally, repair drones gather power cores from fallen units to recycle them in newly constructed platforms. This process would be faster if we had closer proximity manufacturing capability. The mine is to facilitate this manufacturing, and to provide Haven with raw materiel for further construction, if desired. In the battle, replacement units will be available, but we are predicting the needs for long-term political shifts. It is not necessary immediately."

>con't
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"I see." You think a moment. "Say, Steward. I had an idea the other day. It involves taking some rocks in my Pocket, flying really high, and then flying down at a high speed and dropping them down on my enemies. What do you think about that?"

"The resulting kinetic energy detonation could be devastating to enemy forces," Steward says, "but there is a risk of collateral damage. How large is the pocket?"

"It's pretty big. About 240 meters cubed."

"I can perform calculations to maximize damage output," Steward says. "I can shape alloy projectiles so as to better contain the resulting kinetic blast zone, but adamantium supplies are at critical levels due to the construction of Mobile Platform 003. Having mining facilities close at hand would assist this effort."

"...what if they exploded, too?" you ask.

"The charges will be charged with mana for maximum destructive potential," Steward says.

If you didn't know better, you'd swear you heard a bit of smugness in his tone.

What do you do?

>on with the mines
>hold off on the mines, do your best with other materials
>say...you wouldn't happen to have a half-ton of adamantium to spare, would you?
>some other strategy
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>>31233002
>on with the mines

Maybe regular steel instead of adamantium.
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>>31233002
>on with the mines
Ehehehehehe.

EHEHEHEHEHEHEHEH.
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>>31233002
>>on with the mines
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>>31233002
>on with the mines
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>>31233002
>>on with the mines
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>>31233002
>on with the mines

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>31233002
>adamantium supplies are at critical levels due to the construction of Mobile Platform 003.
Wait a fucking sec.

Hot damn. That secret weapon is sounding more awesome every second.
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>>31233002

>on with the mines

"If you can prioritize those kinetic weapons, that would be very much appreciated. While you're here, how vital to Kan-Abar's defense are the network of fire towers across the city? If I could negate the Fire pool powering them, how much more likely would we be to achieve victory?"

>yes, I am asking SM if it worth pursuing this plan.
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>>31233089

I still think we Artifact the secret weapon. Whatever Steward is cooking up is going to be much more awesome than our mid-tier Heartstone Titan anyways.
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>>31233002
>On with those mines, then.

Guess I'm jumping at shadows. Thanks for the reassurance.

Unless you're trying to double-bluff me into thinking that he's not actually a threat to Haven, I'M ON TO YOUR GAMES SM! YOU CAN'T FOOL ME!!!!
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>>31233089
>Hot damn. That secret weapon is sounding more awesome every second.

awwwwwwwwww yeeeeeeeaaaaaahhhh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BFSHDJatdQ

no pic for you yet though
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>>31233162
ARE WE GETTING A GUNDAM SM?
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>>31233162
My robot genitalia are greatly aroused by this.
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>>31233162
<TAKE THIS! MY SHARDS! MY RAINBOWS! AND ALL MY SHADOWS!>
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>>31233162
WE'RE GETTING A GUNDAM. WE SHOULD ARTIFACT THE SHIT OUT OF IT

We should make it self aware, and program it to fight for freedom, justice, and the right of all things to live and prosper. Just as a backup, for if we have to fuck off into the void for a few millenia.
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>>31233184
>>31233212

eh well you'll see

Steward will do some cool things later, probably
>>
All those detractors that said Hearthstone Golem wasn't worth getting because we couldn't get the supplies can go suck it now.

I still don't think we should get Hearthstone Golem, but just because there are better options.
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>>31233251
Muh Void Bomb Muh Immateria Muh MPVI!
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>>31233212
Oh fuck, we can use Artifact to make Optimus Prime.
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>>31233251
Like Steward's shiny new Gundam.
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>>31233251
>Brown Party
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>>31233262
>>31233269

It's decided Shadow Prime Gundam is a go
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>>31233287
Brown party a shitsemselves.
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"Alright," you say, "you convinced me. Have at those mines."

"Construction is beginning. Now."

"How would you gauge Kan-Abar's fire towers as a priority?" you ask him. "You've heard Delan's intel?"

"I have."

"I'm thinking about trying to disable them. But..."

"The fire towers are designed to eliminate aerial targets," Steward says. "As we are no longer dropping in troops by airship, it would seem unnecessary effort to remove them as a factor in your efforts to kill the demon summoners. Once you are on the ground, they are not a threat. While disrupting their power source would be helpful overall, it does not advance our immediate goals, and risks drawing unwanted and dangerous attention."

"...oh. I suppose you might be right."

"Further," Steward says, "Sandalphon will likely be flying outside the city. Perhaps it would be better to leave them intact for other reasons."

"...heh. I think I get it."

Steward gives you a mechanical nod and walks off.

It's well past midnight, now, in the early morning. After today, there are three days until the battle begins. According to the plan, Fang aims to launch the first harrying assault a few hours before first light.

What do you do now?

>strategy
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>>31233303
Free Leviathan.
Actually, let's meditate on some shards.
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>>>31232151
>not classifying it from the moment Leviathan was described as a huge dick
>needing this spelled out and shoved in your face by Hecate
anyone considering releasing him after hearing he was a giant douche was already an idiot.
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>>31233303
Go look for Raph?
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>>31233303
Airship stealing time!
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>>31233303

Steal enemy airships.

If the fire towers are of negligible tactical benefit, then actively disabling the enemy airforce is the best remaining plan.

If we do this tonight/this morning, we can find Raphael today, meditate on shards for the next 24 hours and then save the last day for any last minute plans.
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>>31229667
We're supposed to find them tomorrow not today.
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>>31233333
Meh. All the gods are dicks. SM really likes his Greek mythology, wherein before being Romanized Hades was the coolest dude of 'em all.
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>>31232658
...you know, there's still a great deal more we can learn by infiltrating the castle.

Spy on Kullia and company as well as we can. Prove she's the power behind the throne.
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>>31233303
Airship stealing time. First the Kelvere airships, get locations from Fang, pocket and piss off at the speed of sound water level.
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>>31233386
Not really.

Geb, Hecate, and Logi are clearly described as reasonable.

The point is he was a dick *by god standards*.
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>>31233303
Let's go steal some airships.
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>>31233410
And Geb, Hecate, and Logi are described as reasonable "by god standards."
In reality, they're all fucking crazy.
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>>31233400
If we get MP5 we could pocket multiple airships.
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>>31233303
I wanna Give Auriel some new Airships.
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Really? No one wants to warn Abby that Hecate plans to, *ahem*, "guide" Archon?
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>>31233431
We have MP5

We need MP6
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>>31233444
Right. We need to get to work on that.
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I'm falling asleep on muh keyboard.

Seems like airship theft is top of the list. Sounds fun!

I will write scene with Fang giving you locations and then you setting out to kick some assery.

Um, targeting Kelvere airships or any that are defensively positioned at Kan-Abar first?

>>31233440

She is sleeping right now, maybe tomorrow?


Pre-Battle List

Outstanding:

>speak with Raphael in the morning
>meditate all shards to MAXIMUM POWER
>talk to Abigail about Hecate and her worrisome motivations
>attempt to steal enemy airships and feed them to the Nemesis/give them to allies
>check in with Ila and Auriel about Lord Waterford's slave ring

Completed:

>test a shadowy appendage in the Wind mana pool (oh shit, it's Dave)
>speak to Hecate about Leviathan (oh shit, he's a raging faggot)
>ask Auriel if she made any progress with Raphael and Charmeine (oh shit, Raphael wants to talk)
>collect strong rocks for kinetic bombardment (oh shit, Steward's making explosive adamantium charges)
>attempt to reach the Kan-Abar Fire mana pool and disrupt the city's defensive towers (not a priority)
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>>31233468
Kelvere first. Because Duke Vellik is my husbando.
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>>31233424
What's your point mate.

His own divine ally thought he was a dick. Therefore releasing him was already idiotic and obvious disaster recipe. You aren't really disputing this.
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>>31233440
It's not an immediate priority. We'll see her before the fighting starts.
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>>31233480
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>>31233493
I bet he knows we unlocked the door and who was behind it.
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>>31233489
No, I'm not disputing that. My point is as I originally said. "All the gods are dicks." You aren't really disputing this. EHEHEHEHEHEHE
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>>31233468
>defensively positioned at Kan-Abar
Once they realize air ships are disappearing, city security will be raised. So there first.
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Ok, well, we'll start the next thread with a little convo with Yi fang.

Sorry for the short thread, I'm tirred.

Next thread, tomorrow, maybe? Depends on things.

If not tomorrow, definitely Friday. I will keep you posted via twitter.

Good night.
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>>31233468
Keleveres first
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>>31233585
Good night SM. See you tomorrow maybe. Get ur rest for pharmacy school ya bum.
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>>31233600

Doesn't start till September anyway so we have time to finish Shadow Quest

And then, Edgy Quest won't take very much thought or organization since it's just going to be totally ridiculous anyway, though I plan around 5-20 threads, which means it will be about 30 threads at least

The real question is what I do after that if anything. May be a big time before my next serious quest
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>>31233653

Thanks for the thread, broseph.
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>>31233653
Oh, god, Shadow quest is going to be done this year...

I feel like it's the end of an era. What the fuck have I been doing with my life that hearing this is causing me such distress?
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>>31233718
Probably the same thing I'm doing.

I'm up to 24 total complete rereads of Shadow Quest.
Although that's just since I began counting two months ago.
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>>31233653
Thanks for the thread, SM! Sweet dreams~
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>>31233653
ty SM
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Hey guys, I have a thought.

Considering that adding Chaos to our Order helped us to become more stable, less batshit fucking autistic and overall a more 'humane' entity..

..what if we tried to forcefeed Order into Hecate to make her more balanced and less of a cunt?


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