> Saturday, November 9th, 2013SITUATION: http://pastebin.com/Ac5gJdwqMECHANICS: http://pastebin.com/Se82xDLeCREW ROSTER: http://pastebin.com/qVD3DM17TANK ROSTER: http://pastebin.com/UCXDAajgTHE SHOP: http://pastebin.com/ZMy4Q2sqArchive: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Girls%20Und%20Panzer:%20LGA%20QuestYou are Gertrude Pool, Sophomore Class President and new commander of Lafayette Girls Academy’s revived Tankery Team.You sit at the foot of your bed, your legs hanging off as you sit in your underwear. As your staff puts their faces on and gets ready for the day, Kitten dresses you like a squire armoring up his Knight. She buttons up your blouse, then puts your jacket onto you. Then she throws your skirt up your legs and zips it up tight.You say, “Kitten. Feeling alright?”Kitten nods, smiling. “Definitely.” She takes up a pair of black thigh highs and starts wrapping them up your legs. “Admittedly, I am a bit nervous, but I’m sure that’ll pass. We’ll win, right?”“Sure,” you say. “We will. I can promise you that, Kitten.”Kitten stops, kneeling in front of you on the floor, placing her hand on your knee. “Well, never make a girl a promise you can’t keep, you know?”“Ah, don’t be so fatalistic,” you say. “It’s not like we’re going to die or anything.”Kitten nods, sighing. “I suppose not. Let’s get out there and win, alright?”> Boast- “Fuck yeah, we got this shit.”> Neutral – “Sure.”> Polite – “For you, anything.”> Write in
>>31260296>> Boast- “Fuck yeah, we got this shit.”Best time of the day!*Looks at choices*Oh boy.....
>>31260296> Boast- “Fuck yeah, we got this shit.”GETTING PUMPED
>>31260296>> Boast- “Fuck yeah, we got this shit.”
>>31260296>> Boast- “Fuck yeah, anything for you."
>>31260296>Boast- “Fuck yeah, we got this shit.”
>>31260296> Boast- “Fuck yeah, we got this shit.”ITS TIME FOR TONKS!!!
>>31260296German, we're supposed to have 102 CP not 97
> Boast“What can I say other than-“ You pump your fist. “Fuck yeah! We’ll have it in the bag, Kitten. Don’t you worry your pretty little head.”Kitten grins, handing you your helmet and your binoculars. “Of course. Here.” You take it up, wrapping the binocular straps around your neck, then placing the helmet at your side.Lisa yawns, fully clad in her Tankery uniform, goggles resting around her neck. “Right, can we get this show rolling then?”Nancy nods. “Of course, let’s get some breakfast in us!”With that, you and your crews head downstairs to have breakfast. All the crews chatter excitedly, some nervously about the match today. Everyone eats their fill, some packing on a bit too much like the Delinquents and the Magicians. Nervousness tends to beget nausea later. You sit around with your crew. Nancy pokes at her, looking a bit down, while Lisa and Ramirez stuff their faces. You share breakfast with Kitten.> Finish up and Head out> Converse Casually (Topic?)> Talk Tanks (Topic?)> Talk with a Crew (Specify)> Call Someone (Specify)> Read a Book (Specify)> Consult the Shop (Specify)> Study a Tankery Team (Specify)> Other
>>31260459>> Finish up and Head outLet's go to work.
>>31260459> Talk Tanks (Theater Tech Crew) Is the camo for our tanks ready?>Study a Tank Crew (Adna Chaffee)
I really like the changes to the crew roster you made Schteel.
>>31260459> Finish up and Head outOoo-rah!
>>31260459>>31260484>>31260474This>>31260494I agree, Though I especially love the new information we learned about them from the loyalty quest. (We need to add the Aviation club planes for which one they are using.)
>>31260459> Converse Casually (Topic?)Reassure the Delinquents and the Magicians.I rather not have them screw up due to the neves especially the magicians since their manning the artillery
>>31260459>> Finish up and Head out
>>31260296>“Ah, don’t be so fatalistic,” you say. “It’s not like we’re going to die or anything.”death flag raised
> Finish up and Head out> Talk with a Crew (Team Machina)You ask the Theatre Tech girls on the camo paint as you leave.“Well,” says Barkas. “We were able to outfit all the tanks with decent camo for the area. Dull greens and browns and the like. We didn’t do anything with your Sherman, the green’s pretty much fine for the area, heavy forests and all.”You nod. “Alright. Thanks, Barkas.”“No need to thank us,” she says.With that, you arrive at the parking lot, where huge tank transporters are out and ready to take your tanks there. Manning them are ITL Judges and variable Black Forest Peak students.One of them walks over, a short girl with circular glasses. “Are you Gertrude Pool?”You nod. “Yeah, that’s me.”“Nishizumi-sama has assigned me to take your tanks to the staging area,” she says. “She wishes to tell you good luck in the match.”You smile. “Thanks!”She says, “My advice though, if you’re sitting behind someone, don’t weave around them, it’s not fun.”“Noted.”You and your crew climb into the back of one of the huge tank transporters. The BFP student drives on, leading the rest of the transporters to the staging area. Nancy hums along to the tune of, “Amazing Grace.”> Amazing Grace (Skip to the Staging Area)> Converse Casually (Topic?)> Talk Tanks (Topic?)> Call Someone (Specify)> Read a Book (Specify)> Consult the Shop (Specify)> Study a Tankery Team (Specify)> Other
>>31260686>Amazing Grace (Distract the opposing armies)
>>31260686>Contact the Magicians and Delinquents via radio/I hope Luciano knows how to use a map.
>>31260686> Amazing Grace (Skip to the Staging Area)Loading screen please.
>>31260686> Consult the Shop (Specify)>Panther chassis to Ausf. G>Use a Girl Scout thing
>>31260686> Study a Tankery Team (Adna Chaffee)Last minute farming?>>31260721We can do that after the match dude
>>31260686>>31260716This
>>31260686> Call Someone the Magicians and Delinquents remember to read the map.> Study a Tankery Team Adna Chaffeeget some more CP
>Abigail Zwillman (Radio): In for charges of truancy. Loves animals of all kinds and is noted as being a suspect for tossing stink bombs into PETA Protests last year.Do animal lovers hate PETA?
> Amazing GraceYou start singing. “Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound…”Nancy joins you, grinning. “That saved, a wretch, like me!”The rest of the crew joins in.“I once, was lostBut now, am found!Was blind, but now, I see!”https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zdo2uqHVtrwYour Transporter offloads your tank to its starting point and drives you, Kate, and Charlotte all the way to the main viewing area. Lots of large screen TVs have been set up for the match, and people from all over Spain have come to watch the venue.“Charlotte,” you say. “Feeling alright?”Charlotte nods, rubbing her stomach. “Probably shouldn’t have eaten so much for breakfast.” She looks over at you. “You know, Weiss vomited from sheer stress on the way here. I think she’s pretty nervous.”Kate says, “Don’t worry. Keep yourself full, we might end up having to have lunch during the match.”“Right,” you say. “Charlotte, just go with the plan, and stay frosty. Hopefully you can read maps now, right?”Charlotte nods violently, groaning. “Wendy made fucking sure of that.”You arrive at the stage with your officers, Kinuyo Nishi is across from you, talking with some of her officers as well, five of them even. The match doesn’t begin for another half hour so you got some time.> Talk to Nishi (Topic?)> Talk to your Officers (Topic?)> Talk to the Judges (Question?)> Walk Around> Other
>>31260832Why would anyone with a brain and common sense NOT hate PETA?
>>31260858> Walk Around
>>31260832well seeing how many animals PETA murders each year ya they hate them
>>31260858> Talk to Nishi (Topic?)We're going to sell them the Chi-Ha right?It's Comp.SpecHas Camo Paint.Also has Grouses and imrpoved suspension.
>>31260858> Walk Around> Talk to Nishi Wish the both of us a good match
>>31260858> Talk to Nishi (Topic?)How's she been and all that. Ask if she's interested in a Type-97 Short Barrel.
>>31260866>euthanasia is ethical when done on animals and is preferable to feeding the useless that can't take care of themselvesI actually like the way they think. Keep it that way and we may eventually get to accepting the same for humans.Yes, it's "evil" by most present day standards, but it works.
>>31260912PETA please go
>>31260866>>31260889Oh, Gotcha tanks for the clear up. I did not know that.> Talk to your Officers (Topic?)What Tanks do they want backing them up.We know our team needsthe M4A1 Since it's Trude's tankthe Brumbar, 120mm Chi-ha,and the Stug since their assault guns/ArtyT-34 since it's a FlagThey can't get the Somua and the GMC since their scouts.The only tanks available to them isThe ChurchillThe Kv-85The HellcatThe Panzer 4
>>31260912early 20s STEM major pls go
>>31260943I still hold that the flag should stick with the Tiger up front. It will be safest there guarded by our strongest force where they can't be flanked by sneaky tanks. It also dictates how CHT will move. They would have to engage rather then wheel around and go hunting, a position that we clearly have the advantage in.
> Talk to Nishi> Walk AroundYou walk up to Nishi. “Hey, Nishi. Nice to see you again.”Nishi smirks at you, crossing her arms. “Well, Gertrude Pool. Haven’t seen you in a while. Honestly didn’t think you’d make it past Walter Christie.”You shrug. “Well, I try, you know? Want to take a walk around?”Nishi nods, then says something in Japanese to her officers. They nod, allowing you to leave with their Commander. “So, Gertrude Pool. Is everything alright in your place?”“Well,” you gesture lazily as you walk. “I’m pretty busy these days. It’s kind of stressful. You?”Nishi says, “I am practically glowing! We are going to be participating in a very honorable sport. I imagine when we face Ooarai in the finals when it happens, this will be finally the year we win a title.”You look sidelongedly at her. “You say that as if you’re going to win.”“Well, yes,” says Nishi simply, pausing.> Boast – “You are so wrong that it’s a universal constant that you are wrong.”> Neutral – “That’s quite overconfident of you.”> Polite – “Glad to see you’re confident at least.”> Write in
>>31261037> Polite – “Glad to see you’re confident at least.”I like her.
>>31261037>That's cute, but it's wrong
>>31261037>Tempting fate - "What are the chances of you winning honestly?"
>>31261037>> Boast – “You are so wrong that it’s a universal constant that you are wrong.”Bitch be tripping >>31261036You know that the Tiger is in the Front Lines.Even if the Tiger is nearly impenetrable save for the tracks.Having the Flag near the front of the battle is suicide
>>31261068http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLwAjOGQcHoThanks for making me feel old anon.
>>31261037>> Polite – “Glad to see you’re confident at least.”Let our tanks do the talking
>>31261037> Boast – “You are so wrong that it’s a universal constant that you are wrong.”Let's throw her off her game.
>>31261120I think she has that phrase thrown at her constantly
>>31261037After rereading this thread. I have a feeling she is severely underestimating us. Which is normally something that happens to her.Either she still thinks of us as a rookie team or as the Super Heavy Tank
>>31261037>> Polite – “Glad to see you’re confident at least.”
>>31261037> Polite – “Glad to see you’re confident at least.”
>>31261085Yes I know they're at the front lines. This isn't war where a lucky shell can careen out of the sky and nail a schmuck, CHT would literally have to shoot through our other tanks to get at them. They're safer there rather then on our side of the river where all we have to defend against forded tanks is ourselves and 3 casemates.The Tiger's unit won't be very mobile after crossing the dam. There's very little chance of CHT getting a shot at them from the sides or behind. If we use the flag to force them to engage in the open we've got them dead to rights.All we have to do is hold their attention while Luciano and her girls go hunting and sandwich them in. Having the flag with us will make them spread out like water.
>>31261219Walter Christie did the thing you mentioned to Saunders.Also the Chi-Ha is a turreted tank. So we have the Sherman, the Chi-ha, and only two casemates protecting it.Also we're not crossing the dam, we're play defensively. Going on the offense will only drag us into their ambush tactics
> PoliteYou nod. “Glad to see you’re confident at least, Nishi. Hope we have a good game together, okay?”She smiles, nodding. “I look forward to beating you.”Okay, that’s getting annoying.Regardless, it’s about five minutes to start time. You all rush down to the main stage where the judges have assembled all of the Officers. The three judges line up on stage.“We are today’s judges!”“Mary Kowalski!”“Sumire Watanabe!”“Denise Wilder!”Kowalski says, “We will now begin the match between Lafayette Girls Academy commanded by Gertrude Pool versus Chi-Ha-Tan commanded by Kinuyo Nishi! Let there be no ill will or disrespect come towards these two teams!”Watanabe says, “The match shall be a fifteen versus fifteen flag battle! First team to render the other team’s flag tank inoperable is the winner!”Wilder says, “All rules in the standard ruleset apply!”[1/3]
>>31261396[2/3]> LAFAYETTE GIRLS ACADEMY> Hometown: Norfolk, Virginia> Motto: “Dum vivimus, vivamus”> March: Lafayette Girls Academy March> Gertrude Pool commanding> 1. M4A1E8 Sherman “Cupid” (76mm M1)(COMP. SPEC.): Gertrude Pool**> 2. Churchill IX LT “Earl” (QF 6 Pounder)(COMP. SPEC.): Cathy McDowell> 3. SOMUA S35 “Ross” (47mm SA 35)(COMP. SPEC.): Anna Eleanor> 4. M8A1 Scott GMC “Szarik” (75mm M3)(COMP. SPEC.): Janet “Janek” Kos> 5. KV-85 “Chuck” (85mm D-5T)(COMP. SPEC.): Marina Polikarpov>> FLAG << 6. T-34/76 Model 1941 (76.2mm F-34)(COMP. SPEC.): Samantha Whitworth> 7. Panther Ausf. G “Al” (75mm KwK 42 L/70)(COMP.SPEC.): Charlotte Luciano*> 8. Sentinel AC IV “Popeye” (QF 17 Pounder)(COMP. SPEC.): Francis Dales> 9. StuG III Ausf. F “Xenophon” (75mm KwK 40 L/43)(COMP. SPEC.): Jane Keegan> 10. Tiger II (Henschel) “Hobbes” (88mm KwK 43 L/71)(ELITE): Kate Knispel*> 11. Panzer IV Ausf. F2 (75mm KwK 40 L/43)(COMP. SPEC.): Anne Juliette> 12. M18 Hellcat (S) (M1A2 76mm)(COMP. SPEC.): Georgine Barkas> 13. M4A4 Sherman HVSS (75mm M3)(COMP. SPEC.): Josephine Barbera> 14. Type 97 Short Barrel 120mm Gun Tank (120mm Naval Gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Erika Weiss> 15. Sturmpanzer IV Series One “Stupa” (150mm StuH 43 L/12)(COMP. SPEC.): Dory Miller> OFFICERS:> KATE KNISPEL: FAR SIGHT!> CHARLOTTE LUCIANO: LOCKDOWN!> CURRENT ACTIVE COMMAND PERKS:> BLITZ!: GERTRUDE POOL
>>31261423> VERSUS> CHI-HA-TAN WOMEN’S ACADEMY> Hometown: Kyotango, Kyoto Prefecture> Motto: “Molon labe”> March: Yuki no Singun> Kinuyo Nishi commanding> 1. Type 97 Chi-Ha Kai ShinHoTo (Type 1 47mm gun)(ELITE): Kinuyo Nishi>> FLAG << 2. Type 5 Chi-Ri (Type 5 75mm Tank Gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Tadamiki Kuribayashi> 3. Type 4 Chi-To (Type 5 75mm Tank Gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Tomoyo Yamashita> 4. Type 89B I-Go Otsu (57 mm Type 90 gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Hajiko Sugiyama> 5. Type 3 Ho-Ni III (Type 3 75mm Tank Gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Yasuzu Okamura> 6. Type 3 Ho-Ni III (Type 3 75mm Tank Gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Shuuni Hata> 7. Type 1 Chi-He (Type 1 47mm gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Masako Homma> 8. Type 1 Chi-He (Type 1 47mm gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Kyoko Katsuki> 9. Type 1 Chi-He (Type 1 47mm gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Akiyuki Oka> 10. Type 3 Chi-Nu (Type 3 75mm Tank Gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Minori Genda> 11. Type 3 Chi-Nu (Type 3 75mm Tank Gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Moriko Tanabe> 12. Type 3 Chi-Nu (Type 3 75mm Tank Gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Naoko Tatsumi> 13. Type 3 Chi-Nu (Type 3 75mm Tank Gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Jun Matsuura> 14. Type 97 Chi-Ha Kai ShinHoTo (Type 1 47mm gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Yasu Fukushima> 15. Type 97 Chi-Ha Kai ShinHoTo (Type 1 47mm gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Yuki KasaharaYou shake hands with Kinuyo Nishi. She smiles at you.You say, “Good luck.”“Thank you, I won’t need it,” she says.With that, you leave the stage and head down to the staging area. The ITL judges drop you off at the starting area.Anything you want to do before you start the match?> Wait for the Match to start> Talk with your Crew (Topic?)> Talk with a Crew (Topic?)> Other
>>31261440>> Wait for the Match to startClear our mind and become one with the tank.
>>31261440> Talk with a Crew (Topic?)Check on Weiss and make sure they're okay. Build up their confidence a bit.
>>31261440>> Talk with your Crew (Topic?)Commanders.Tell them to pick which they will travel with.Also warn them that like with their previous elite, the Chi-Ha Kai may get their before we do so be cautious
>>31261440>>31261476>>31261478this
>>31261440> Wait for the Match to start> OtherAh, the merits of foot scouting were never brought up during the planning. Eh, adjust on the fly, I suppose.> No O-I> Type 89B I-Go Otsu actually fieldedIs their crew thinking of taking a page from Ooarai's Team GUTS?
>>31261478I thought we were sending our Hellcat/KV-85 to establish a beachhead at the dam to make sure that doesn't happen. It was discussed at least.
>>31261536Probably they can't field a crew for that tank in time considering they need 11 crew for such a tank. I'm just as surprised as well having field the I-Goat least almost half their team is equipped with 75mm
>>31261574We we're planning to go on the defense. Last thread covered our plan
>>31261609Send them to get to position first, so there isn't a Chi-Ha Kai waiting for us. I don't see how that conflicts with a defensive plan.
> Talk with a CrewYou gather up the Commanders. “Alright girls. For some of you, this is your first match in the tournament. I’m going to ask that the Sturmpanzer IV, the StuG, and the Chi-Ha roll with me. New kids will go with Kate towards the dam, that means you Juliette and Barkas. Cathy and Marina will head to Charlotte towards the center bridge.”Samantha raises her hand. “Who should we go with?”You say, “Stick with me until further notice. We’ll take the bridges first and see what’s what. If the coast looks clear, we’ll move in for the kill. For the new people, don’t be nervous, just stay calm.”Weiss looks like she’s about to vomit again. Ballantine says, “Hey, Erika. Maybe you shouldn’t have had so much for breakfast.”“It was free…” says Weiss.You roll your eyes. “Keep it together and we’ll be safe. Mount up!” Everyone shouts and yells in excitement as they mount into their tanks. You climb up onto the turret and drop down into the Commander’s hatch, with the rest of your crew following soon after.Nancy says, “Lord in heaven, help us.”“God’s busy, Nancy,” says Lisa. “It’s on you, now.”You look over at the sky. Waiting.Then the flare shoots up, bursting in the sky in a great white star.“Begin!” yells the Judges over the radio.You pull up the radio. “Advance!”> COMMAND POINTS: 102> IMPROVED INTUITION: - 1 CP> FOCUSED SHOT: - 20 CP> Proceed as planned> Make an adjustment (Specify)> Other
>>31261683>> IMPROVED INTUITION: - 1 CPBetter to be safe than sorry and we have some to spare.
>>31261683> Make an adjustment (Specify)Send Hellcat and KV-85 with Dash to both points. CHT starts closer. It'll be hard to play defensive when they're already on our doorstep.
>>31261683>> Proceed as plannedHave Scouts keep an eye out for camouflaged tanks
>>31261683Have the KV-85 to Dash to point to SA-316Since it's the fastest, it should get their before their elite and it is to stay there and keep hidden until they see contact.Hellcat goes to the Forested area near Sa-315 and to stay hidden until the Tiger and the Panzer IV
>>31260866Honestly, if they just openly advertised themselves as humanely ending the lives of suffering animals I might actually support them. For the amount of time and money it takes to save one animal you can end the suffering of a hundred.The only thing hypocritical is the fact their attitude about it and everything else they do. Saving animals doesnt make you better than anyone, it makes you a waste of time and money. Killing animals doesnt make you better either, it makes you the cleanup crew, but at least it's not as bad as some kind of self-proclaimed saviour retard.Want to really improve the world? Just ignore animals alltogether and focus on progressing humanity. If any kind of people is better than others, it's scientists, engineers and doctors.The only thing that can make the world a better place is knowledge, and animals have none to share. Soon enough we won't need them anymore anyway, not even as a food source.
>>31261817Please take this to /pol/
>>31261840/an/ would fit better
>>31261840>>31261866Too late.
>>31261807Does anyone agree to this plan?Also considering their overconfidence, and we're using camoed tanks, we are to just stay hidden
>>31261884I count two votes for that general plan, one for intuition, and one proceed as planned.I think it's safe to say we're getting to the crossings first.
>>31261683Gah. I'm too late.Whatever.Our left flank is horrendously exposed. There are multiple paths up the valley that aren't shown on google maps but come up on earth. We need to send the scouts over there!One moment while I gather evidence.
>>31261683> IMPROVED INTUITION: - 1 CP> Make an adjustmentThis (>>31261739). Gotta have that bridge secure.It's got good looks out points that can allow our team to see any enemy tanks that may decide to ford on the western side of the map.
> Make an adjustment> IMPROVED INTUITION: - 1 CP“Marina, can you get to Point SA-316 on the map?”Marina yells, “Can we!? Put the pedal to the metal! Let’s go!”The KV-85 blows past you, smoke billowing in its wake as the engine screams to life.> KV-85 “Chuck” used DASH!You cough, waving away the smoke as you stand turned out of the hatch. “Barkas. You too, full speed to point SA-315, use the trees for cover.”Barkas nods, her Hellcat turning out of formation with Kate. “Acknowledged!”You think on it. You check the map. There are two good hills overlooking the center bridge. They might be good points to check any advances on the bridge, maybe even good points to set up the assault guns like the Sturmpanzer and the Short Barrel 120. “Janek, do you have any eyes on the bridge yet?” you ask.“Not yet, we’re climbing the right hill so far. Nothing to note, we can’t see anything past all these trees,” says Janek.“Same,” says Anna. “We can’t see them across the river. We’re taking the left hill.”> COMMAND POINTS: 101> IMPROVED INTUITION: - 1 CP> FOCUSED SHOT: - 20 CP> Proceed as planned> Make an adjustment (Specify)> Set up Assault guns on the Left Hill> Set up Assault guns on the Right Hill> Other
>>31261942What about the other bridge. Let's have the KV-85 deal with SA-316 while the Hellcat deals with the SA-315
>>31261939You can see there are two paths there, small they might be, it works for Chi ha. There's also the gentle incline from a creek and a small river crossing never halted a tank advance.>>31261942While the right one is a hill, the left is not really a hill so much as it is a plateau.
>>31262022So should we set up the Assult guns on the Right Hill then?
>>31262022OH FFS.
>>31262022>>31262061So Where should we set up the Assult Guns?
>>31261989> Set up Assault guns on the Right HillJust have a scout posted on the left hill/plateau, so that the Stupa and Chi-Ha can be warned earlier if they need to either bug out, or re-position themselves in case Chihatan tries something from the left side.
>>31262022Which hill has the higher elevation so the Assault guns can me more useful?
Since nobody's making a vote...>>31261989> Make an adjustment (Specify)Tell Luciano to spread her forces down the left side to watch for advances across the river. Don't spread too thin, though, we just need to have a look.We don't need the wing AND reserves watching one point.
>>31262189Luciano has only the Churchill, the KV-85 went ahead to take the area
>>31262096>>31262184Shove them BEHIND the hill on the right. They can go over when we need them. Or indirect fire.What's with putting things on hills?
>>31261989>proceed as plan> set up artillery near the right hill
>>31261989>>31262158This for now
>>31262223>You gather up the Commanders. “Alright girls. For some of you, this is your first match in the tournament. I’m going to ask that the Sturmpanzer IV, the StuG, and the Chi-Ha roll with me. New kids will go with >Kate towards the dam, that means you Juliette and Barkas. Cathy and Marina will head to Charlotte towards the center bridge.”I see that accounts for 10 tanks plus the flag unless my math is shit. Where's Janek, Anna, Dales, and Samantha?
> Set up Assault guns on the Right Hill> Make an adjustment“Janek, Anna, can you head over to the left, take that hill. We’ll set up on the right.”“Righto!” says Janek. You can see her tank speeding down the right hill and up to the left.You roll up on the right hill, the flag tank trailing behind you and the assault guns. The heavy guns have some trouble making it up, but with some patience and effort, they pull up just behind the crest of the hill, ready to pull over at a moment’s notice. Your tank pulls up onto the crest, allowing you the best field of view.“This is Marina, we’re on the other end of the center bridge. Nothing so far.”“Kate here, we’re still enroute to the dam, we’re running into a lot of trees and obstacles.”“Same here,” says Barkas. “We’re almost there though, we’ll let you know when we arrive.”Charlotte, Dales, and Cathy park right at your end of the bridge, angling their armor effectively against any frontal attacks.Janek says, “We don’t see them, it’s pretty quiet.”> COMMAND POINTS: 101> IMPROVED INTUITION: - 1 CP> FOCUSED SHOT: - 20 CP> Hold position and wait for them to come> Advance over the bridge> Other
>>31262342Sentienel and Churchill is with LucianoPanzer 4 and m4a4 is with Kate
>>31262377Wojtek move further to the left. Like, WAY OVER. Where you are now is not nearly good enough. Get to the massive bend in the river where the valley juts out. It's blocking your LOS to the river behind it.
>>31262377>> COMMAND POINTS: 101I got nothing> Hold position and wait for them to comeMake sure everyone is hiding, we put camo for a reason
>>31262377> IMPROVED INTUITION: - 1 CPThey're flanking. Tell everyone with a vantage point to watch their sides especially.
>>31262377> IMPROVED INTUITION: - 1 CPMove Wojtek to the left and have the arty and everyone on our group be ready to cover them if needed.
>>31262377> Hold position and wait for them to comeShould we just blow the bridge outright?It'll be one less crossing point we have to worry about.
>>31262377>Hold position and wait for them to comeThey're waiting to ambush us. Their scouts/baits will probably show up soon.
>>31262430We might want that bridge.It's very odd. Our KV-85 was able to get over unhindered. It's true that they could be holding their fire though.Leave the bridge. If they flank in force then it's a viable escape route.
>>31262377>> IMPROVED INTUITION: - 1 CP
>>31262430We'll need it to cross eventually. I don't envy trying to get the Churchill or KV to the other side in a timely manner without it.Besides, the bridge is an obvious choke. So long as we keep at least one tank watching or let them believe we do, they won't dare make a move. It would be suicide without any advantage.>>31262467They may be the first there. It isn't clear exactly how powerful Dash! is.
>>31262377...Oh dear. Did Kate take the direct route to the dam? She'll find there's no direct route up to the dam. The whole road is elevated for a long stretch. She'll need to head back a bit before she can get access up there.
>>31262532Should have gave her the hedgerow cutters
>>31262467Yeah, that's true. Even if it's a just a Shinhoto model against a KV, I had apprehensions with that isolated Dash, since Bearcat might not be skilled enough (yet) to match an Elite by themselves.A question I'm throwing to anyone familiar with Spain. How dry is it there during November?I noticed that the roads are pretty sparse, yet it seems neither teams have kicked up any dust clouds yet while moving around.Makes me wonder if Chihatan is taking a slow, scenic route, seeing as how they aren't the first ones who secured the bridge.
>>31262576The PzIV has them. I don't think hedgerow cutters could help anything, though.
>>31262576I'm sure Hedgerow cutters can get her up a 2-3 meter wall.
> IMPROVED INTUITION: - 1 CP> Hold position and wait for them to comeLisa and Kitten turn out of their hatches, leaning on their arms, resting. Lisa eats a sandwich that Nancy had prepared in case the match goes over lunch. Kitten says to her, “Are you really eating now? It’s not even the afternoon?”Lisa shrugs. “Why aren’t you?”“Well I’m not a glutton for one thing,” says Kitten. “Secondly, I can wait to eat.”Lisa rolls her eyes and continues eating.You check the map again, keeping the radio handy. “Kate, how’s it coming?”Kate says, “Joanna’s putting Hobbes to the test getting onto the road, we’ll be there in another ten minutes.” You can hear Joanna shouting and swearing in the background.So, no contact with Chi-Ha-Tan so far. You can guess that they’re probably waiting for you to advance in force or to send singular scouts for them to pick off. You look over to the left. Seems like a neat little flanking position, but through your binoculars you can see Janek has taken the initiative to roll down further down to the riverbend.Fine then, you’ll allow it. Question is, where even are they?> COMMAND POINTS: 100> IMPROVED INTUITION: - 1 CP> FOCUSED SHOT: - 20 CP> Hold position and wait for them to come> Advance over the bridge> Other
>>31262670>> Hold position and wait for them to comeSeems they have a very cunning plan. Use the tank with Far Sight to scout hold the other back ?
>>31262670Given we want to defend, well we better batten down the hatches and wait. Unless you want that offensive strategy anyway.
>>31262670>> Hold position and wait for them to comeRemember what Maho said, she can be brash, also she is very confident so if we're not falling for her plan, leave her frustrated and ;et her come to us.Also tell TT Crew, that they are on their own for Ten mins, so just keep an eye and be on lookout
>>31262670> Hold position and wait for them to come
>>31262670Should've bought improved engines for Hobbes, next time then.
>>31262670> Hold position and wait for them to comeHave everyone keep constant radio contact and to keep their eyes peeledAlso have the Kv-85 hide somewhere, I don't feel it should be exposed like that
>>31262670> Hold position and wait for them to comeGet the Brumbar to lob an HE shell across the river. See if there's a hard outline of a tank that doesn't rustle with the leaves.Get Marina back on our side of the bridge.Check on Barkas, let her know it's a real possiblity that they're waiting for her since it took so long to get to the dam.
>>31262736Not much for articulation, but I agree with your sentiment.Gretrude & Pals have nothing to prove, and everything to lose.Sit tight, keep scanning the field, and let them come to you. They HAVE to close the gap if they want even a chance to bingo some tanks.Here's hoping nobody frenzies.
>>31262732Why do I have the feeling that this is gonna be longer than BFP vs Kursk?>>31262670> IMPROVED INTUITION> Hold position and wait for them to come
>>31262670> Hold position and wait for them to comeHave the Chi-Ha and Sturmpanzer shoot off a few shells into some bushes. It'll piss that chick off if we shake up her ambushes. She'll be pressured to act.
>>31262835>>31262785Kind of a waste of ammo. I can see why you'd want to but I doubt we'll hit anything and I'm sure her crews are trained to stay cool under fire.
>>31262835the Strunpanzer has 38 rounds of ammunition, also if we do that, we're giving our artillery position away
>>31262862At least it will give us a better idea where they are ( n't). And it will be a nice challenge.
>>31262910We will also give away our position
> Hold position and wait for them to come“This is Kate, we’ve arrived at the dam. Barkas is right behind us.”You pull up the radio eagerly. “Any contacts?”“Nope.”You frown, glumly putting the radio back and leaning back against the hatch. Ramirez has fallen asleep in the loader’s seat, Nancy is humming and fidgeting. Kitten and Lisa are playing tic-tac-toe on the top armor hatch.You ask over the radio again. “Does anybody see anything?”Everyone says nope and nah.Your stomach growls. It’s been over an hour and a half since the match started and there hasn’t been any kind of engagement with the enemy. You look back at the Assault guns, their crews idling out of the hatches, talking with each other. “Hey,” you say. “Stay focused.” They pile back into their tanks immediately.Actually.“Dory, Weiss. Fire a couple of shots across the river, see what you can do.”“Alright, time to test this bad boy out then!” says Dory. “Load it, Bradley!”The Sturmpanzer fires, the recoiling sending it a few feet backwards down the hill. The shot travels slowly and lands among the trees on the other side of the river. Weiss does the same with her Chi-Ha, another shot rumbling the hill and rousing Ramirez out of her nap.You look at the impact craters through your binoculars. “Nothing’s moving,” you say.Luciano says, “I think I see something moving in the woods, north-north west-ish about half a kilometer out? Might be Chi-Ha-Tan.”Janek says, “Yeah, I see it too. It’s an 89 I-Go.”You scan the trees quickly, and soon you see the I-Go, covered in shrubs and bushes, rolling slowly towards the bridge.> COMMAND POINTS: 100> IMPROVED INTUITION: - 1 CP> FOCUSED SHOT: - 20 CP> Fire at the I-Go> Hold position and wait for them to come> Advance over the bridge> Other
>>31262910If you happen to have an arty division to hit EVERY bush, then go right ahead.
>>31262927We want them to come to us. Of course, if we have tanks that they couldn't see before they come into range, let's not fire those.
>>31262927It's a fairly obvious position. Not exactly secret in the first place.>>31262948> Fire at the I-GoJust ourselves. I'm confident Nancy can hit it and I don't want to waste too much ammo.
>>31262954Do you see those roads? Do you see how tiny most bushes are in comparison? Yeah.
>>31262948HOLD YOUR FIRE!Marina? Your up.
>>31262948> Hold position and wait for them to come
>>31262948>Have our Artillery deal with the I-Go.The KV-85 musn't fire a shot, in case they rush it while it's reloading
>>31262948> IMPROVED INTUITION> Have Marina fire on the I-GoThere's the possibility that they are using it as bait to distract us from them sneaking up on us.
>>31262993How long does it take to reload a 85mm shell, let us take care of it unless we miss.I know it's pretty obvious but their baiting us
>>31262986These tanks are quite small and there's a huge amount of shrubbery to the right. And how do we know the tanks aren't camouflaged particularly well? Shove branches and assorted greenery on to one and you can hide in a bush even if its substandard.>>31263014>>31263035That's a GOOD thing. The KV-85 will be written off but Chi Ha will expose themselves and we can wipe them out.
>>31263048it will take one or two Chi-nu's if that we're to happen.They know fire discipline
>>31263064Then we shoot the Chi-nu.It's a numbers game.
Everyone knows the KV-85 is the flag tank, right?So, let's not get it shot to shit.Marina = KV-85 = Chuck = flag tank.Don't be fucking stupid and throw the quest.
>>31263101That was the last match with Walter Christie.The T-34 is our flag
>>31263101The T-34 is the flag, not the KV
>>31263101>> FLAG << 6. T-34/76 Model 1941 (76.2mm F-34)(COMP. SPEC.): Samantha WhitworthLearn to fucking read.
>>31263119>>31263125>>31263128Oh man, that explains a lot then.
>>31263101If we actually sent the flag tank across then I'd say /tg/ hit a new level of stupidity.
>>31263149You can understand my deep concern, then.
> Fire at the I-GoYou say, “Marina. Do you see that I-Go?”Marina says, “Yeah, we’re training the gun on it. Want it gone?”“As you will, Marina.” You observe the KV-85 fire a shot, the tracer zooming across the way at the I-Go. It stops, the shot blasting just in front of it. “Fuck!”“Relax,” you say. “Don’t get worked up.”Cathy says, “Can we attack them yet! We can take them!”“Yeah!” says Dales.“Steady people,” you say. “Try again, Marina.”The I-Go swiftly dodges another shot from Team Bearcat as it begins backing away. “Damn it!” yells Marina. “He’s getting away!”Cathy says, “To hell with it, let’s cross!” Their Churchill speeds past the Panther.“We can take them!” yells Dales as the Sentinel rolls after the Churchill. They’re about to get to the bridge.> TEAM LIBERTY IS FRENZIED!> TEAM NOT-A-CHANCE-IN-HELL IS FRENZIED!> COMMAND POINTS: 100> IMPROVED INTUITION: - 1 CP> FOCUSED SHOT: - 20 CP> RALLY CREWS: - 10 CP> Hold position and wait for them to come> Advance over the bridge> Other
>>31263233> RALLY CREWSDammit guys not again
>>31263233>> RALLY CREWS: - 10 CPI knew it.>Fire Arty Rounds on it's position
>>31263233...MEH.Everyone prep to fire on any targets of opportunity.
>>31263233>RALLY CREWS: - 10 CPStop, they're pulling you into ambush!
>>31263233> RALLY CREWS: - 10 CP> Hold position and wait for them to comeTold you guys we should've taken the shot. Nancy's our second best gunner and the thing was only creeping along.
>>31263233>Rally>Fire HE Rounds on the I-Go's Predicted position, it's trying to lure them into a trap, well use it's predicted reverse to lob artillery rounds
>>31263233>>31263309>>31263288This, we can still make the shotit's slow reverse may work to our advantage
>>31263268>>31263270>>31263285>>31263288>>31263309They're already at the bridge you know.And why are you wasting artillery on the I-GO? We're about to have much bigger problems.
>>31263348We have plenty of ammunition, we only fired one round at them so far.We still have more then thirty rounds left
>>31263370More in the sense, the arty will be stuck reloading while the rest of Chi ha suddenly opens up.
>>31263288The idea was to use the KV to bait them into shooting it. Just killing the I-Go is hardly a gain.>>31263233> RALLY CREWS: - 10 CPTry to predict where the ambush is set up by watching where the I-Go is going. Then shell it.>>31263348>They’re about to get to the bridge.So you don't want to stop them from crossing?
>>31263348Their near the bridge, we have it covered. We just can't have Freshman and Naval Merchants blow their cover
>>31263233> RALLY CREWS: - 10 CPTell them to return to their positions
>>31263390Not really no. The primary problem is their position is given away and they're going to be blasted one way or another. Both their tanks have tremendous frontal armor so we may as well let them keep charging.>>31263395Talking is not a free action.
>>31263432We order them to fall back to their positions.Don't you know how Japanese Tank tactics work?Their luring them into a trap, they have good fire discipline so once lured their weaker chi-has can attack them from the sides, or use their 75mm at regular combat distances.
>>31263233>OtherOpen fire on the frenzied crews, if they can't be an example, we shall make them one!
> RALLY CREWS: - 10 CP“Cathy, Dales, stand fast!” you yell. Their tanks stop at right at the bridge crossing. “You’re going to run into an ambush and then have a very bad time!”> TEAM LIBERTY AND TEAM NOT-A-CHANCE-IN-HELL IS NO LONGER FRENIZEDThe I-Go escapes under fire from Marina. The other crews don’t bother taking a shot.Charlotte says, “Get back in formation you two!”“Ah, bite me, Luciano!” says Dales. “We could totally take them!”“It’s not about taking them, it’s about taking them smartly,” you say. “Dory, Weiss, can you guys fire another shot?”Dory says, “We’re reloading! These shells are heavy as fuck!”Samantha says, “Now you know our pain.”“This is Kate, we’ve got movement across the dam. It looks like Chi-Ha-Tan is moving in force against us.”You ask, “How many?”“Wendy’s spotted at least five tanks moving slowly. Three Chi-Hes, a Chi-Ri, and a Chi-To. We think there might be more.”> COMMAND POINTS: 90> IMPROVED INTUITION: - 1 CP> FOCUSED SHOT: - 20 CP> RALLY CREWS: - 10 CP> Hold position and wait for them to come> Advance over the bridge> Other
>>31263474
>>31263285After un-frenzying the two crews, do we want them to retreat OR let them think they've pulled us and try to spring their trap ?
>>31263506Oh man, it's been a while since I though those
>>31263474i can see it now. someone could run a mix of GuP:LGA and 40K. Trude is an Commissar.
>>31263519*sawFug
>>31263497> Hold position and wait for them to comeKate will be fine, there isn't exactly an abundance of cover on the dam for CHT to utilize.Ask for a report from Janek. Also, where's Anna?
>>31263497>> IMPROVED INTUITION: - 1 CP>>Hold Position"Good luck with them."
>>31263497Do they have enough room? If so tell them to take defensive positions and let them come to you.Also have them give us target positions so we can we can fire on them.The CHi-ha and the Strumpanzer have the ranger
>>31263472So? They reveal they're positions, we kill them.>>31263497Eh. If we can pull them back in time then that's fine too.>Engage at your own discretion Kate. But try to get as much info as possible first.
>>31263550In a forested area in which they will lure them in?We will have a hard time sighting them.
>>31263497Can Kate kill their Chi-Ri?We do that and we win.
>>31263497>> Hold position and wait for them to come>Also Sight targets for our artillery
>>31263569If they allow our tanks to advance that far...Well it's an interesting consideration. Our tanks are gone no doubt about that but it means the bridge is undefended so we can cross it.
>>31263573Oh fuck, I didn't realize that was their flag. And Kate can snipe. And her 88mm is ridiculous.>>31263497Ask Kate to take the shot.
>>31263573That's actually a good point.>Kate: Focus shot the Chi-Ri. Aim for the Tracks. Everyone else gang up on it.
>>31263573>>31263620I'm down for this. Let's roast 'em.
>>31263573Cool, lets go for it.
>>31263620I honestly can't believe their sending in their flag
>>31263641While we're at it, have the KV-85 and the others chase across the river.Make it look like we took the bait, and see if that'll speed up their other side.
>>31263648I bet it's an elaborate ruse
>>31263653That is horrible bait
>>31263653Ok no that's not great.We're playing to our advantage with having Michelle one hit quit the tank.We lose everything if we push it. Don't get greedy. Let Michelle take the shot.We'll go from there if it's not a total kill.
>>31263653If we were going to do that, we should have let the two teams charge across not wait till now.
>>31263653>>31263673Stick to the plan.If we make the hit great, if we don't/
> Hold position and wait for them to comeYour ears perk up to the sound of guns firing out. 88s and 75s. You look over in the direction of the Dam, to see white smoke billowing on Chi-Ha-Tan’s side of the dam and Kate’s team, the Tiger II, the M4A4, and the Hellcat firing away at them, fruitlessly.“Are you guys able to hit anything?” you say.Kate says, “For once in her life, Michelle’s-“ There’s a huge bang that interrupts her. “Michelle’s having some trouble.”“THAT FUCKING PAPER TANK!” screams Michelle.Wendy says, “That autoloader on the Chi-Ri is giving us trouble, it’s hitting us, not penetrating but we can’t get a clean shot on it with all the smoke and it moving around so much. Not to mention the fact that every time it hits, it scrambles Michelle’s focus.”“AAAHH!” yells Michelle. “I’m GOING TO TEAR THAT FUCKING ORIGAMI PIECE OF SHIT TO PIECES!”Barbera says, “I can’t see shit!”“Neither can I!” yells Barkas.Kate says, “We’ve also spotted a Chi-Ha Kai moving in. I can’t tell if it’s Nishi, they’re all painted the same. Maybe if you could go across the river and start prodding at them, we might be able to get a shot in.”> COMMAND POINTS: 90> IMPROVED INTUITION: - 1 CP> FOCUSED SHOT: - 20 CP> RALLY CREWS: - 10 CP> Hold position and wait for them to come> Advance over the bridge> Other
>>31263701>Can they give us an estimate on where they are.>Use the Artillery
>>31263701>FOCUSED SHOT: - 20 CPShot the tigers ammo storage.Such is the price of failure
>>31263701>beat the shit out of them with the SPGs.>Force them to focus on relocating instead of firing giving time for Michelle to get range and elevation settled>Win the game>This fucking 2 hour match
>>31263701> Hold position and wait for them to come>Try and have them get you a rough idea of where they are, use the artillery to see if we can disrupt their loading \
>>31263701Well you heard the lady.>Cross the bridgeDump smoke everywhere to mask our advance. Heavier tanks cross first while the other provide fire support to cover them. Then once the heavies are across, the rest move over to join up.
>>31263701> IMPROVED INTUITION> Have SPGs provide supporting fire for KateDamn that delicious bait, take note that it's still barely half their forces (I think)
>>31263760Their baiting us. The Tiger can handle the hits. Use artillery to flush them out
Where's Charlotte's group now?
>>31263701Advance over the bridge (minus at leastthe flag tank) I'll let you guys figure out the details.(In the future, having a tank with an autolader too might be nice.)
>>31263785The veteran tank commander just told you to do something but you want to ignore her advice?Well whatever. You're the boss.
>>31263701>Have Kate give us estimated Coordinates >Have the M4A1, Stug III, Strumpanzer, and Chi-Ha and fire on that position
>>31263805You mean the punk ass bitch of a teenager?Yeah, fuck her. Sit the hell down and shut the hell up.This is goddamned bait.
>>31263701> Advance over the bridge> FOCUSED SHOT: - 20 CP (Chi-Ha Kai Turret Ring)
>>31263701Does the Stupa have a line of fire?, even blin, we can start dropping big shells on the position to force them into action.Have Trudy cross with the 2 tanks at the river.
>>31263701> Advance over the bridgeLeave Luciano and the flag behind. Luciano has Lockdown to defend.Chi-Ha, Brumbar, and StuG stay back too to provide supporting fire.>>31263732>>31263747>>31263780The Chi-Ha and Brumbar have shit all for accuracy at that range with the green crews manning them. They'd be a lot more useful to us to defend against potential ambushes across the bridge.
>>31263805This is why we have SPG, and tanks in a elevated positions, to give fucking fire support
>>31263834It doesn't matter.it literally doesn't matter, the fact that there are explosions even somewhere nearby will be enough to force them to change priorities.This is what artillery is - it's about forcing the enemy to do something other than what they want while you deny them a certain area.it's not about "lol sick kill wot arty OP lol"
>>31263834This why we have Kate, give us coordinates and they fire on those coordinates.
>>31263813>>31263845It's nice to see our opinion on people with more knowledge and experience than us.
>>31263701>> Hold position and wait for them to comeDo not cross.Provide firing support
>>31263701>> Hold position and wait for them to come
>>31263861>it's not about "lol sick kill wot arty OP lol"Meanwhile anybody who actually plays arty knows how lucky you have to be to get a good hit.
>>31263701I would so love to bait them into an ambush of our own.
>>31263918it's not getting a good hit, its providing surpressing fire.If we get a hit, lucky us, but we need to hit just a general area to make to buy time, for the tanks that can get solid hits time to aim.
> Advance over the bridge“Dory, Weiss, Keegan, stay here with Samantha. Charlotte, you and me are going to cross the bridge in force, got it? Anna, Janek, you guys keep where you are on the riverbend, watch out for flanking maneuvers.” Everyone shouts their acknowledgement. “Alright, move!”The Sturmpanzer IV and the Chi-Ha turn towards the dam, then open fire with their guns, sending their shells wildly in the general direction of Chi-Ha-Tan, none of their shots actually managing to hit.Charlotte’s Panther has the thickest frontal armor and is the fastest, so she goes first, followed by Dales, followed by you, then by Cathy.Kate says, “They’re falling back!”“GODDAMN IT THEY’RE GETTING AWAY!” screams Michelle. Another bang echoes over the radio. “OH FUCK THAT CHI-RI!”You are now across the bridge. What shall you do?> COMMAND POINTS: 90> IMPROVED INTUITION: - 1 CP> FOCUSED SHOT: - 20 CP> RALLY CREWS: - 10 CP> Continue the advance> Fall back> Other
>>31263875You do remember that Chi-Ha-Tan's entire schtick is ambushes, and if we cross we are at the mercy of the rest of their tanks that have yet to engage?>>31263918Not that anon but I respect a well-played SPG, saved my ass more times than usual. Besides in this match they are less Armor killing and more on surpressing fire
>>31263939They have excellent fire discipline, they will most likely wait until they have a very clear shot so such bait won't work
Load HVAP on all guns. Hard to dodge.
>>31263918Why are you taking the WoT bait, pal?C'mon, man, you're only reinforcing my point.
>>31263950>> Fall backYou got to be fucking kidding, what happen to the fucking plan?
>>31263950> Fall backWe did what we needed to. Turn back before they unleash hell on us.
>>31263950> Fall back
>>31263950> Fall back> IMPROVED INTUITIONAlso Schteel some maps of our current locations would be good, if you could spare the time
>>31263950Why did we fucking advance?
>>31263950>Fall back>Imp. Intu.
>>31263960You talk as though we would instantly fall apart in an ambush. Although given the insanity I'm seeing here maybe you're right.> Fall backIf they're regrouping then there's no point to us rolling in like that. We'll be outnumbered and outgunned.>>31264009The situation hasn't changed at all. It sounds like there's been movement everywhere but nothing has actually happened.
>>31264009We're in the same position as before.Who's bright idea it was to advance?
>>31263950Fall back under the cover of our guns, they'll be expecting us to charge to the rescue.They already disengaged due to our advance, so our goal is accomplished. Just make sure that our girls are covering our asses while we pull back. Maybe just stick the tanks in reverse as we back up towards the hill so we don't expose our engines.
>>31263950Whelp. Tg fell for bait again
>Kate Knispel: Far Sight"Kate, I need a Sit-Rep."
I get the feeling that this was a distraction for some of their tanks to flank us somehow.
>>31263996Please use arguments in this discussion, not lame ad hominems
>>31264052Look at the map anon.There are no real positions for them to do so
>>31264031>>31264026Advancing wasn't my idea either. Some people keep forgetting that baiting and ambushing is Chi-Ha-Tan's deal.
>>31264074But it's a simple plan! Now they know we can fall for this shit.
>>31263950> Fall back> IMPROVED INTUITION: - 1 CP
>>31264057If you could read you'd see I had actually made all the points I wanted to make earlier in the thread.But...easier to just be a victim, right?
>>31264074The point to advancing was to take the heat off the dam so Michelle could get a better chance at the Chi-Ri. CHT is counting on us pushing forward now that we know where their flag is.It's not a fucking trap if we don't walk into it, which we aren't doing.
>>31264103But we don't know where their fucking tanks are? We know their flag but that doesn't do anything if we cross the other bridge.
>>31264103Well I can't argue with that point.
>>31264103How will advancing on the other bridge take off the heat in which the Arty can do it just fine?
>>31264103>>31264126Yes we/you/I can. It's infantile.The way to take "heat," off Michelle is by using our SPGs to hound them and force them to change their priorities.NOT cross or advance or any other of this inane bullshit.
Why are the actual tank-battle threads the least fun threads of the quest?Oh yeah... all the Erwin Rommel - 17k 45% anons.Fuck this, I'm going to bed and cringe to this tomorrow when I have nothing better to do.
> Fall backYou yell, “Hold up. Full reverse back over the bridge.”“Why?” asks Charlotte.“Just a hunch.” Then you feel some impacts rumble on the bridge. “What was that!?”Janek yells, “I see them! On the hill to the west of the bridge! About three Chi-Nus and a Ho-Ni! They’re firing at the bridge supports!”… Why are they firing at the bridge supports?… Oh wait.> COMMAND POINTS: 90> IMPROVED INTUITION: - 1 CP> FOCUSED SHOT: - 20 CP> RALLY CREWS: - 10 CP> Forward over the bridge> Reverse over the bridge> Fire back> Other
>>31264167Should have taken Blitz, now would have been the perfect time
>>31264167Focused shot right into the Ho-Ni's gun.Call for our big guns to target the Chi-Nus.
>>31264167>REVERSE>GOTTA GO FASTGoddamnit, Anon. God damnit.
>>31264167This is what happens if we take fucking bait
> Reverse over the bridge> Fire back>Get everyone else who can to fire at Chi-Ha_TanGet your asses out of there now
>>31264164>Erwin Rommel - 17k 45% anons.Is that a WoT thing?>>31264167> Reverse over the bridgeTell Janek to return fire.
>>31264167> Reverse over the bridgeWho would have fucking guessed the people known for ambushes ambushed us. holy fucking shit my mind is completely blown. You people are retarded.
>>31264188....we did take Blitz.>Blitz
>>31264167>> Reverse over the bridge>Have Janek and Arty Fire on their positions
>>31264167>> FOCUSED SHOT: - 20 CPOn the ho-ni's turret. Knock it out or kill its gun.>> Reverse over the bridge
>>31264167Lay as much suppressive fire as we can on those bastards so they can't get shots off.>FOCUSED SHOT -20 CPon the tank destroyer's treads. So that we can pretty well make it useless.
>>31264218We did?LET'S FUCKING BLITZ THOSE JAPS
>>31264145>>31264156I don't think you understand the ranges they're firing at here. Their targets are at least 1.5kms away. There's no way they have the accuracy to do anything and Chi Ha knows that.>>31264167A little unsporting.> FOCUSED SHOT: - 20 CPTake out one of their guns Nancy.> Reverse over the bridge>Wojtek engage from your position and confuse them a bit.>Where's that fire support guys?
>>31264209I'm not sure, but I think he's just calling all the armchair generals real faggots.
>>31264232This is a desperate attempt at their part.
>>31264167Front 2 tanks advance, rear 2 tanks reverse, unless we're close enough to one side or the other. Get our tanks on the hill to fire at their ambushers.And fuck each and every one of you flip flopping retards. You dont advance onto a fucking bridge and then pull back, that just leaves you out in the open for twice as fucking long.
>>31264167>Have Scouts and Arty open fire>Reverse back
>>31264167> Reverse over the bridge> OtherAnyone who didn't cross the bridge, fire away!"Charlotte, we need a lot of firepower right now."> Order her to initiate LOCKDOWN
>>31264209Basically if you've played over 17 thousand games yet still have a less than average 45% win rate, you suck.
>>31264167> Reverse over the bridge> FOCUSED SHOT: - 20 CPNail one of those tanks in the turret.
>>31264232...uh. You mean they're less than a mile away?Why do you think it's difficult? Are you even citing anything or are you just blowing smoke to cover up the fact that you don't know what you're talking about?
>>31264167>Blitz
>>31264265Fuck off, WoT scum
>>31264232It's not about trying to hit them, it's about disturbing their fire!
If we Blitz we'll be stuck on this side of the river until we find a fording point. Is it worth it to be exposed to more fire just to take out three Chi-Has?
>>31264276He's explaining what that other Anon meant.Easy, friend Anon. We all think the wot players are children.
>>31264167>Scouts and Artillery/Stug Fire at their positions>Reverse back
>>31264257Nevermind, strike out the Lockdown part in this vote. Panther crossed with us, and I don't want them isolated and immobile on the other side.
>>31264167>Scouts and Artillery and Stug fire/supressing fire on the Chi-Nu's and Ho-ni
>>31264167>>31264232Actually you know what? Forget this shit.>Get in the riverbed.We can go back up later further back along the river bend.>>31264268I was under the impression that artillery was inaccurate during WW2? I could be wrong.>>31264279But if they don't care and we can't get close to hitting then it does bugger all.
>>31264327They can't penetrate the fucking Tiger! Firing on their position, either having the earth shaking as the shell hits, disturbs the accuracy and reloading of the tanks.how does advancing on the other bridge make any effect on the flag tank?
>>31264167>Reverse over the bridge>Have Janek, Anna, and our Artillery/Stug lay suppressing fire/attack
>>31264356Kate didn't care about being penetrated, she wanted us to pin down the flag tank from a flanking maneuver so she could get a shot in.
> Reverse over the bridge> FOCUSED SHOT“Reverse!” you yell. “Fast as you can, now now now!”The Churchill, which is at the rear of the column, reverses as hard as it can. The Sentinel reverses faster, pushing into it as all your tank turrets point at the tanks on the hill.“Nancy, target the Ho-Ni’s gun!”“Right!”The 76mm fires, the shot slamming right into the barrel of the Ho-Ni, bursting it open like a banana.> WEAPONRY KILL: TYPE HO-NI III (COMP. SPEC.)The Ho-Ni backs up over the crest of the hill as the rest of your tanks in the area start firing back. The Chi-Nus singlemindly continue firing at the bridge. One of them goes down to a shot in its side.> KO: TYPE 3 CHI-NU (COMP. SPEC.)> KILL CREDITED TO: TEAM WOJTEKThe rest of the tanks continue firing on, the assault guns on the hill pouring their fire on as well.Then the bridge starts rumbling, you can hear it shaking. “Faster you guys!” you scream. The Churchill makes it, over the bridge, as does the Sentinel.The bridge collapses, the Panther right on top of it, going right into the valley. The Delinquents scream as they’re dropped among the rubble. Your tank barely manages to escape it.“Charlotte!” you scream as the Panther slams into the river, completely on its side.> KO: PANTHER AUSF. G “Al” (COMP. SPEC.)Charlotte yells, “We’re all okay!”“Get the fuck off of me, Elouise!” yells Abigail.Elouise yells, “Your fault!”> COMMAND POINTS: 70> IMPROVED INTUITION: - 1 CP> FOCUSED SHOT: - 20 CP> Hold Position> Head to the Dam> Other
>>31264405Man. The delinquents never get a break.Ok. Do we want to assault at the dam, infiltrate across the river or hold position?
>>31264405>> Hold Position>Fire on the Chi-Nus
>>31264405> OtherHead to the left. Look for a position to ford with Janek covering us. They expect us to go towards the dam.
>>31264445They "never get a break," because Anon makes shit fucking decisions.You don't get to have it both ways, darling Anon.>>31264405>Head to the dam>Relocate their flag tank
>>31264405> Hold Position>Fire on the Chi-Nu
>>31264405Not a bad trade, though I do love me some Panthers.For the moment reform up and make sure that we are watching our flank from the east. I have a feeling they might try creeping around that way.
>>31264405Have our second force cross and start an assault. Look for points the could ford the river where we are, and cover them. Keep them on the other side while the Ace's and co start to sweep down.
>>31264405Try to take out the two Chi-Nu's, then head to the dam
>>31264496Still one kill and a weaponary kill for our panther? Dont like it.
>>31264496It's an awful fucking trade. We lost an entire tank for a momentary cessation of fire from one of theirs.How is that "not a bad trade"?
>>31264405Tell everybody to keep pouring fire on those Chi-Nus, we might be able to peg one or maybe both of them if we are lucky.
>>31264496That is stupid and even if we weapon kill the Ho-Ni it can still run. We lost one of our commanders. for a trigger happy anon! 14 vs 14On the bright side, Polish Team got their first kill.
>>31264545>We lost one of our commanders. for a trigger happy anon!Yeah... I'm not to happy about it either.
>>31264545>>31264523We killed a gun, killed a tank, and we have the chance to kill some others before they flee.It's not great, but certainly not bad.
>>31264405>> Head to the DamWe're on our own here. Have nearly everyone else meet us up at the damn. Whoever is further than us, ask them to look like they're moving to the dam as well, but tell them to stay behind, hidden.
> Hold Position“Keep firing!” you yell.The guns keep firing on the now retreating Chi-Nus. One of them is caught with a shell impacting it’s frontal armor, the white flag signaling it’s defeat.> KO: TYPE 3 CHI-NU (COMP. SPEC.)> KILL CREDITED TO: TEAM LIBERTYThe other Chi-Nu manages to escape, just barely over the crest of the hill.Kate says, “This is hopeless, they aren’t going to cross.”Janek says, “Yeah! They just blend right into the background too! We can’t even see any of them!”Kate says, “Gertrude. Can we please make a stab across the dam? We’ve got ample support from Barkas and Barbera over here and we can certainly make progress.”> COMMAND POINTS: 70> IMPROVED INTUITION: - 1 CP> FOCUSED SHOT: - 20 CP> Assault> Hold position> Other
>>31264603>but certainly not badThis whole thing could have been avoided if that retard hadn't been a stupid asshole
>>31264603For 20CP and a tank, really good equvalent exchange. We didn't lose a tank,we lost one of our commanders while they lost one Chi-NuThey have 4 of them! Now we have to regulate command of Luciano forces while coordinating the artillery!
>>31264627> IMPROVED INTUITION: - 1 CP
>>31264627>> Hold positionGoing across is what fucked us in the first place
>>31264627> Hold position> Look for a point to fordDon't let everyone get impatient. We want CHT to get impatient first.
>>31264654Agreed, and throw in an improved intuition just to make sure we aren't missing anything obvious.Maybe ask Kate for the far sight?
>>31264627>OtherThey hold position, we have to try to link up with them somehow, or at least get somewhere a little more defensible
>>31264627>> Hold positionSo we lost a Panther for 2 Chi-Nus and a weapon disabled Ho-Ni.....14 vs 13
>>312646362 kills and one of their only heavy guns out of commission. Again, it sucks that we've lost leadership, but they paid dearly for that kill.>>31264635Agreed, I'm just trying to make sure people don't get frustrated. That only plays into the hands of these Jap bastards.
>>31264654>CHT to get impatient first.>Japanese>Getting impatientGuess we'll be waiting a long time. And do we want a repeat of the frenzy scenario that just happended ?
>>31264711>but they paid dearly for that killHow, though?They lost some cannon fodder, while we lost a heavy and a commander
>>31264711But I feel the person making light of the losses is the one who voted to cross in the first place
>>31264728Actually it's a medium and a commander.
>>31264752Still, it was unnecessary
>>31264627> Other> Displace and link up with Kate.No point in defending the bridge if it's cut-off.I certainly want to find an alternative crossing, but if Gertrude strays too far to the left, we might be stretching our forces to the point of not being able to support one another.
>>31264734>But I feelCouldn't resist
> Hold position> Improved Intuition: 1 CPYou sigh. “Hold position for now, Kate. They’re going to make a mistake and we’re going to make sure we don’t interrupt. Janek, see if you can find a good place for our tanks to ford downriver.”“Got it!” says Janek.Kate says, “Alright.”You sit back in the Commander’s chair. Kitten looks back at you, concerned. “You okay?”You nod. “I’m fine. Just getting a bit on edge. But if Maho’s right. Nishi’s going to get impatient, she’ll make a mistake. Either she’ll cross the dam or try for a fording across the river. Either way, we’ll catch her with her panties around her ankle.”……Half an hour passes with nothing to note. You check the time. Three O’Clock. Hmph.“This is Kate, I see them again. Chi-Ri, Chi-To, several Chi-Hes, three Chi-Ha Kais… I think most of their team here-“ A loud bang interrupts her. “And they’ve opened fire.”> COMMAND POINTS: 69> IMPROVED INTUITION: - 1 CP> FOCUSED SHOT: - 20 CP> Assault> Hold position> Other
>>31264788>> Hold position>Have them return fire>Arty and Stug open fire
>>31264788Start slowly withdrawing towards the dam, but be sure the flag tank is well protected. Tell the assault guns to start dropping rounds near there, if there are that many, our chances of getting a hit are significantly better.
>>31264825We on the otherside of the dam anon.
>>31263760>>31263805>>31263875That guy must feel like a fucking genius.The Panther was also the tank with the anti-ambush perk.
>>31264788> Hold positionSame as before, offer some fire support, maybe move the KV and Sentinel over there to reinforce.
>>31264840No, thats Kate actually.>>31264788Have Kate Hold position, send additional tanks to reinforce.I think we should consider sending another team to ford across and catch them from behind as well.
>>31264839Sorry, that was unclear. I mean keep an eye on the west and the river as we make our way back towards the dam.
>>31264788> Hold positionWe have the advantage at distance.As long as the T-34 is safe, just keep waiting for them, it won't be long before their leader snaps.
>>31264868Have Kate Hold position but send the tanks to the elevated hill.We already have the Panzer IV the M4A4 and the King Tiger already there sending more tanks will only clog the dam and will offer not firing positions
>>31264788> Hold positionAssault guns open fire. Move Sentinel over there to support. We should get a move on ourselves to catch them from behind.>>31264888I think this is their big push, guy. Most of their team and the flag are on the dam.
>>31264919It's going to a long flank if we do. I suggest we weaken them first with the Panzer IV, King Tiger, and M4A4, along with the Artillery. being our tanks to the elvated hill to openfire
>>31264840In my defense I would have just kept assaulting forwards. This back and forth we have here... It's to be expected of course. Any big decision making process will have votes swinging in every direction. Next time I'll just go with the majority. By the way, I believe Marina is still on the other side of the bridge.
> Hold position“Alright, hold position there.” You turn out and yell, “Dory, Weiss, see if you can suppress them!”The assault guns turn again, sighting in the dam. You look around, behind you are the Churchill and the Sentinel. To your left rolling around for a good fording port is Anna and Janek. On the hill are the Flag Tank, the StuG, the Sturmpanzer, and the Chi-Ha. That leaves the Panzer IV, the Tiger II, the Hellcat, and the M4A4 at the dam.… Wait. You’re missing someone, and it’s not Charlotte.… Where the hell is Marina.“WHOOO!” scream the Aviation Club girls. You look at your binoculars to see the KV-85 dashing right in between all the Chi-Ha-Tan tanks, breaking their formation and causing them to stop, turning and pivoting in place in sheer confusion.“WILDCARD, BITCHES!” yells Jenny. The KV-85 smashes a Chi-Ha Kai out of the way.> KO: TYPE 97 CHI-HA KAI SHINHOTO (COMP. SPEC.)> KILL CREDITED: TEAM BEARCAT… How the hell did they go missing in the first place?Kate yells, “This is our chance! We’ll make a push here!”> COMMAND POINTS: 69> IMPROVED INTUITION: - 1 CP> FOCUSED SHOT: - 20 CP> “Push in, Kate!”> “Hold it!”> Other
>>31264994In my defense I would have just kept assaulting forwards.That would have been fucking stupid. I'm sorry but i'm feeling a bit frustrated for that move you pulled. Did you read Chi-Ha-Tan's tactics, pushing forward will have brought more causalities. >Any big decision making process will have votes swinging in every direction. You had the swing vote of crossing the bridge!
>>31265013>> “Push in, Kate!”Go go go!
>>31265013>> “Push in, Kate!”Their guns are distracted
>>31265013> “Push in, Kate!”NO BRAKES ON THE RAPE TRAIN!
>>31265013Well, I guess we found our third Officer.> “Push in, Kate!”We just need to get Michelle a shot at the Chi-Ri.
>>31265013> “Push in, Kate!”TIGER II STRONG!
>>31265013Fuck it, charge, blitz, whatever. Just ram the little bastards and let's finish this once and for all. Can we do a focused shot from this distance?If so, save it until someone tries to get a shot into the KV-85 and use it on their gun.
>>31265038> “Push in, Kate!”These girls are crazy.
>>31265013> “Hold it!”Guys, she's got them sandwiched now with the Tiger II. She can sit tight and open up with everything. Her armour is pretty damn thick, CHT is fucked.
>>31265031Sorry but I'm a real Patton. I see every opportunity as one of 'attack'. And yes, I'm quite prepared to take casualties in the name of victory. It's not like there are no ways to counter Chi Ha's strategies even on the offensive but I suppose trying to co-ordinate this lot would be ridiculous.I did have the swing vote? Huh. Well my apologies then.>>31265013Heh.
Killing tanks bring a lot of xp towards elite and Chi-Ha tanks have shit armor.Ideally we would want to destroy their team to the last, but that's metagaming...?
>> 1. M4A1E8 Sherman “Cupid” (76mm M1)(COMP. SPEC.): Gertrude Pool**>> 2. Churchill IX LT “Earl” (QF 6 Pounder)(COMP. SPEC.): Cathy McDowell>> 3. SOMUA S35 “Ross” (47mm SA 35)(COMP. SPEC.): Anna Eleanor>> 4. M8A1 Scott GMC “Szarik” (75mm M3)(COMP. SPEC.): Janet “Janek” Kos>> 5. KV-85 “Chuck” (85mm D-5T)(COMP. SPEC.): Marina Polikarpov>>> FLAG << 6. T-34/76 Model 1941 (76.2mm F-34)(COMP. SPEC.): Samantha Whitworth>> 8. Sentinel AC IV “Popeye” (QF 17 Pounder)(COMP. SPEC.): Francis Dales>> 9. StuG III Ausf. F “Xenophon” (75mm KwK 40 L/43)(COMP. SPEC.): Jane Keegan>> 10. Tiger II (Henschel) “Hobbes” (88mm KwK 43 L/71)(ELITE): Kate Knispel*>> 11. Panzer IV Ausf. F2 (75mm KwK 40 L/43)(COMP. SPEC.): Anne Juliette>> 12. M18 Hellcat (S) (M1A2 76mm)(COMP. SPEC.): Georgine Barkas>> 13. M4A4 Sherman HVSS (75mm M3)(COMP. SPEC.): Josephine Barbera>> 14. Type 97 Short Barrel 120mm Gun Tank (120mm Naval Gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Erika Weiss>> 15. Sturmpanzer IV Series One “Stupa” (150mm StuH 43 L/12)(COMP. SPEC.): Dory MillerVs > 1. Type 97 Chi-Ha Kai ShinHoTo (Type 1 47mm gun)(ELITE): Kinuyo Nishi>> FLAG << 2. Type 5 Chi-Ri (Type 5 75mm Tank Gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Tadamiki Kuribayashi> 3. Type 4 Chi-To (Type 5 75mm Tank Gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Tomoyo Yamashita> 4. Type 89B I-Go Otsu (57 mm Type 90 gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Hajiko Sugiyama> 5. Type 3 Ho-Ni III (Type 3 75mm Tank Gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Yasuzu Okamura> 6. Type 3 Ho-Ni III (Type 3 75mm Tank Gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Shuuni Hata> 7. Type 1 Chi-He (Type 1 47mm gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Masako Homma> 8. Type 1 Chi-He (Type 1 47mm gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Kyoko Katsuki> 9. Type 1 Chi-He (Type 1 47mm gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Akiyuki Oka> 12. Type 3 Chi-Nu (Type 3 75mm Tank Gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Naoko Tatsumi> 13. Type 3 Chi-Nu (Type 3 75mm Tank Gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Jun Matsuura> 15. Type 97 Chi-Ha Kai ShinHoTo (Type 1 47mm gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Yuki Kasahara14 vs 12
>>31265107It's not meta gaming really. I'm pretty sure some tank commander has at some point let the newbie get in more shots on the enemy to get practice. Either by telling everyone else to hold fire or by sending in the new guy first.That said, it's not a good idea here and now. We need to win this match. So ideally, we'd do that in practice matches.
>>31265114Forgetting that one of the Ho-Ni's is practically fucked for the rest of the game.
>>31265013>> “Push in, Kate!”>> Other> Re-position the artillerySo that they have a chance to support Kate or Marina, or at least disrupt any moves Chihatan will try to utilize.Alas, I am unsure of the ranges that the Stupa and Chi-Ha are capable of, so this is mostly a rough layout. I certainly would like them to get a bit closer, but the valley dividing the two (yellow) might make their progress slow.
>>31265088Patton had no real tank doctrine, and suffered highly for it. Rommel in North Africa had less tanks, men, and pretty much everything but he got his men out because he knew when to fight. Chi-ha-tan are experts at ambushes and we would have lost many of our tanks.
>>31265013> “Push in, Kate!”and> IMPROVED INTUITION: - 1 CP
>>31265013>Wildcard>They're all CharlieGod help us, we have an entire team of Charlies.
>>31265152Ho-ni is still operational so it still counts. It retreacted so that means it didn't give up.
>>31265152They can still ram.NIPPON, BANZAI!
>>31265107>deally we would want to destroy their team to the last, but that's metagaming...?Not really.It would work the same in "real life": a longer fight and more kills is a better experience for the crews.
So am I the only one upset that Nishi basically just tried to kill us?
>>31265152They will repair it and have it back in the game.In fact, I'm willing to get it already is.
>>31265170Oh I don't mean tank doctrine. I meant general mode of thought. Which is insanely aggressive.I'd say I have some influence from Montgomery too...There are large difference between the situation in Africa and what we have here. Terrain, vehicles at hand, etc.>>31265218Carbon plating son.
>>31265218There was pretty well no chance of death. This is still the GuP universe, those tanks make you near invulnerable to anything short of drowning.
>>31265241>those tanks make you near invulnerable to anything short of drowning>bridge>water>bridge blown up>tank in waterHmmm...
>>31265222>The 76mm fires, the shot slamming right into the barrel of the Ho-Ni, bursting it open like a banana.That's an impossible fix unless they were lugging around a spare gun barrel.
>>31265225The situation is to know the enemy and when to attack, we knew Chi-Ha-tan are expert ambushers.We are in no rush since we have a solid defensive position, they were since they only have certain guns in which they can fight. We risked lossing half our forces for gamble in which may not even had given us the Flag
>>31265218Fucking japs don't know how to play a sport, huh?
>>31265225>Carbon plating son.Which helps against WWII shells, not falling into a ravine. It's unsporting and dishonorable.
>>31265256Shallow water dude.
>>31265265Kind of thought the same thing but still they can still ram their tank
>>31265265GUP-verse doesn't give a shit.
> “Push in, Kate!”“Get in there, let them have it!”You look over at the dam to see the King Tiger, the Panzer IV, the Hellcat, and the M4A4 speed across the bridge, guns blazing. They open fire on the confused and scattered Chi-Ha-Tan formation, their smoke launchers no longer being of use without any direction being given.The King Tiger fires at the Chi-Ri, but a prospective Chi-Ha Kai body blocks it, spinning out of control with an engine fire.> KO: TYPE 97 CHI-HA KAI SHINHOTO (COMP. SPEC.)> KILL CREDITED TO: TEAM TIGRISThe other shots from the newbie teams splash short or over shoot over their heads. You can see Nishi turned out of her Elite Chi-Ha Kai, shouting and signaling with her hands to retreat.Another shot from the King Tiger fires at the Chi-Ri, which reverses in time for the shot to slash its track.> MOBILITY KILL: TYPE 5 CHI-RI (COMP. SPEC.)“Get another round in!” yells Kate.Before the Tiger II can fire, the Chi-Ri is shot right into the turret, exploding spectacularly.> KO: TYPE 5 CHI-RI (COMP. SPEC.)> KILL CREDITED TO: TEAM CAMPFIRE“Woo! We got him!” yells Juliette. You can hear all the Girl Scouts cheering in the background for their kill.> CHI-HA-TAN WOMEN’S ACADEMY’S FLAG TANK HAS BEEN RENDERED INOPERABLE> LAFAYETTE GIRLS ACADEMY IS VICTORIOUS![1/2]
>>31265302[2/2]All of your crews burst into cheers and screams. You high five Nancy and Ramirez and pump your fist in sheer joy.Your tanks are returned to the main viewing area, where you are received by the judges and lots of crowds cheering the name of “Gertrude Pool” and “Lafayette Girls Academy.” The Panther, the only tank of yours which was actually knocked out, is still in the process of being recovered from the river.You shake hands with the judges, who congratulate you polite then look over to see Nishi, fuming and kicking at her tank, shouting in Japanese while her officers watch on, embarrassed.> Say GG to Nishi> Yeah, nah, let’s get out of here> Other
>>31265316>Other Slap Nishi for trying to drown us
>>31265302Glorious This round had a lack of kills though.Schteel, so weapon or mobility kills count in the calculation for eliting?
>>31265316> Say GG to NishiI don't think she'll buy our Chi-Ha guys. She's a sore loser and a bitch.
>>31265333Only full kills.
>>31265316We must teach these dirty island savages how to be sportswomen.>Say GG to Nishi
>>31265316>gg no re, not a fan of competing against people who try to inflict actual bodily harm>So much for your pre-destination>w/e let's bounce
>>31265316>> Say GG to NishiBring up the sale of the 120mm
>>31265114>>> 1. M4A1E8 Sherman “Cupid” (76mm M1)(COMP. SPEC.): Gertrude Pool**>>> 2. Churchill IX LT “Earl” (QF 6 Pounder)(COMP. SPEC.): Cathy McDowell>>> 3. SOMUA S35 “Ross” (47mm SA 35)(COMP. SPEC.): Anna Eleanor>>> 4. M8A1 Scott GMC “Szarik” (75mm M3)(COMP. SPEC.): Janet “Janek” Kos>>> 5. KV-85 “Chuck” (85mm D-5T)(COMP. SPEC.): Marina Polikarpov>>>> FLAG << 6. T-34/76 Model 1941 (76.2mm F-34)(COMP. SPEC.): Samantha Whitworth>>> 8. Sentinel AC IV “Popeye” (QF 17 Pounder)(COMP. SPEC.): Francis Dales>>> 9. StuG III Ausf. F “Xenophon” (75mm KwK 40 L/43)(COMP. SPEC.): Jane Keegan>>> 10. Tiger II (Henschel) “Hobbes” (88mm KwK 43 L/71)(ELITE): Kate Knispel*>>> 11. Panzer IV Ausf. F2 (75mm KwK 40 L/43)(COMP. SPEC.): Anne Juliette>>> 12. M18 Hellcat (S) (M1A2 76mm)(COMP. SPEC.): Georgine Barkas>>> 13. M4A4 Sherman HVSS (75mm M3)(COMP. SPEC.): Josephine Barbera>>> 14. Type 97 Short Barrel 120mm Gun Tank (120mm Naval Gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Erika Weiss>>> 15. Sturmpanzer IV Series One “Stupa” (150mm StuH 43 L/12)(COMP. SPEC.): Dory Miller>Vs >> 1. Type 97 Chi-Ha Kai ShinHoTo (Type 1 47mm gun)(ELITE): Kinuyo Nishi>> 3. Type 4 Chi-To (Type 5 75mm Tank Gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Tomoyo Yamashita>> 4. Type 89B I-Go Otsu (57 mm Type 90 gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Hajiko Sugiyama>> 5. Type 3 Ho-Ni III (Type 3 75mm Tank Gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Yasuzu Okamura>> 6. Type 3 Ho-Ni III (Type 3 75mm Tank Gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Shuuni Hata>> 7. Type 1 Chi-He (Type 1 47mm gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Masako Homma>> 8. Type 1 Chi-He (Type 1 47mm gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Kyoko Katsuki>> 9. Type 1 Chi-He (Type 1 47mm gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Akiyuki Oka>> 12. Type 3 Chi-Nu (Type 3 75mm Tank Gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Naoko Tatsumi>> 13. Type 3 Chi-Nu (Type 3 75mm Tank Gun)(COMP. SPEC.): Jun Matsuura14 vs 10All that left over experience points T_T
>>31265256Have you seen how shallow that river is?>>31265275See we have a difference in thought here. I think I could have pulled that attack off successfully using the right tactics. You think it would have gone to shit. Who is right? I'd like to put it into practice but I don't think we'll ever know.>>31265302>>31265316Meh. I'd prefer a big finale but again, aggressive thought process.> Say GG to Nishi
>>31265316> Say GG to Nishi
Gertrude has a reputation for being polite and cordial, so...don't do anything too drastic, allright Anon buddy?>>31265353So not the time for this, Anon.So not the goddamn time. Christ.
>>31265316> Say GG to NishiBe the better women and be all sportsmen like.
>>31265316> Say GG to NishiBe magnanimous in victory.
>>31265365That is a croc of shit. I'm sorry but if we would have pulled that shit off, that would have lead to a shit load of casualties that much is for certain. Saying what if? is Bullshit
>>31265362Allow to metagame hard for my aggressive position in future by saying a frontal attack will net more kills.Not a serious argument
>>31265382>> Say GG to Nishi>>when she has calmed down somewhat.Why do they even compete with a team that bad ?
>>31265441They managed to take down the panther. (Bad example I know)It's not about the tank its about how you used them.Also she was over confident.
>>31265441They're...not bad?Their gimmick is just pretty niche. They can't really deal with a stand off situation like the one we put them in, mostly due to the gimmick part of it.Had they invested in very large TDs or GMCs it would've been rough.
>>31265467The Igo thing still pissed me off.
>>31265490What pissed you off about it?
Once we get to Australia for Shore Leave, we need to find a Tankery Team to Spare with
>>31265499Partly it was the Igo their weakest tanks, partly free EXP, also we could have open fire from the hill but we let only one tank deal with it
>>31265402All tanks open fire with smoke to mask our movements. Heavier tanks cross first as their armor can't be penetrated easily. Artillery and lighter tanks support from our side of the river. Once a bridgehead is established, lighter tanks cross as well. Artillery stays behind with support. If heavy resistance is met then Kate advances on her side to split their forces.Once our forces are across, we advance as normal. Light tanks go scouting, rest of force advances slowly towards dam. Artillery provides ranged support. Aim is to envelope Chi ha by pincering them between our forces and Kate.
> Say GG to NishiYou and your crew walk over to Nishi carefully. “Hey, Nishi,” you say. Nishi stops her shouting and looks over at you, red in the cheeks, angry. You offer your hand, smiling. “Good game.”Nishi looks down at your hand, then scoffs, looking away and crossing her arms.Lisa says, “Wow, real mature, bitch.”One of Nishi’s officers nudges her in the arm. Nishi looks down at her, to which the Officer scolds her in Japanese. Nishi sighs, then quickly shakes your hand. “Good game,” she says to you quickly. “Now if you excuse me, we must be going.” She brushes past her officers.One of her officers says to you, “Don’t give Nishi-sama too much trouble. She’s just really frustrated with our failures. She always blames herself for it.”You ask, “Why’s that?”Another one of the officers says, “In Chi-Ha-Tan’s Senshadou program’s existence, we’ve never been able to win a match.”Nancy asks, “How long has that been?”“When were the nukes dropped?”Okay, that’s actually kind of sad. Regardless, you say goodbye to the officers and wish them farewell. You walk back to your crews, whom are all happy and excited at having won another match in the tournament.> + 10 MORALE ACROSS ALL CREWSLisa says, “We’ve got another night on our hotel. Of course, we could always arrange to head back to LGA. Which would you want?”> Head back to the Hotel> Go back to LGA> Other
>>31265527>Head back to the HotelTankery party at the hotel. Drink specials all night.
>>31265520The issue here is we were with the artillery and if we fire then Chi ha will return fire and the position becomes, well not exposed but you can bet they'll be paying close attention to it later on.>>31265527Hmm...I wanted to head back to LGA to drum up support among the Naval studies since they're on strike.
>>31265527> Head back to the HotelAnd we better enjoy it, with how much it cost!I'm feeling kind of bad for Nishi, though I wonder why she isn't using the I-O.
>>31265527> Go back to LGAI want to hang out with Maho as soon as we can. She's pretty cool.
>>31265527Wait if the never won a match how did they get this far in the tournament?
>>31265527Party in the hotel for now. Our girls deserve a bit of shore leave, and we are in Spain! Try the local food, revel a bit, enjoy the ancient architecture.I mean, if we dropped 8k on these rooms, we are going to get as much use out of them as we can.
>>31265524They have fire discipline, and wait for us.The will let our heavier tanks pass right by and aim for the sides and back of our tanks. They will hide in the forest to do this and smoke won't do shit. Have you not read Japanese Tank Doctrine? We had a plan,we stick to it since it worked.
>>31265527>Head back to the HotelCall room service, it's time to party.
>>31265527>> Go back to LGAlet's go thank Maho. >>31265562Maybe, but they figured out the position from the generic lob we did, also they had no foothold or hill to fire back.
>>31265579Slip up of mine. I meant to say they've never won a tournament or any kind of title.
>>31265527That was a surprising fight, I was hoping we would be the ones to blow the bridge.> Go back to LGAGotta see dem fans.
>>31265527>> Go back to LGAHave nancy or lisa find tank teams in Australia
>>31265527> Head back to the HotelWe did okay save for that one big slip-up. We need to think harder about assigning Command Perks, though. Neither of our officers have ever gotten to use them to any kind of effect.
>>31265584Finally, thank you.someone else gets it.
>>31265646Kate managed to use far-sight really well, it's just that it is not said that she used it.
>>31265584You thought I wanted to advance that far? When I say bridgehead, I mean it. A very limited advance aimed solely at holding a small area as a staging point for further advances.
>>31265662Far Sight is for spotting hidden tanks. She never moved up so never had an opportunity to use it.
>>31265527> Go back to LGA
>>31265663they would have kept baiting us to do so. they had a hill in which they could have ambushed us but they choose the bridge thinking it will be more effective.It was a defensive battle, not a offensive one! We were forcing Nishi's hand into fighting, not making her fight!
>>31265663But your force would get picked apart by CHT.They might not be able to score total kills, but they sure as shit can button Lafayette while scoring mobility and possibly weapon kills.
>>31265633Seconded
>>31265694She spotted them in the trees on the other side of the bridge i'm assuming
>>31265527>> Go back to LGA
>>31265527> Go back to LGAsave the money! that and use this win to boost our PR for the re-election!
>>31265773Are you retarded?It's already paid for you illiterate little shit.
> Go back to LGAYou clink your can of soda together. “To victory!”You and your crew drink your soda eagerly as you get transported back to LGA. Everyone chatters excitedly as they return. It’s only a couple of hours of travel thankfully, and you smile upon seeing LGA in port at Lisbon next to Black Forest Peak.Nancy says, “That was one of our less costlier battles! I bet when we face our next team, we’re sure to just roll right over them!”“Now, Nancy, no need for overconfidence,” you say. “We won’t know when our next match is for some time. Just relax and enjoy our return home.”The tank transporters roll right onto the loading elevator, then they are brought up to the deck. Lisa tells you, “I just think we got lucky out there. Seemed way too easy.”> Boast – “You’re worrying too much, Lisa.”> Neutral – “Maybe it was.”> Polite – “Wildcards are a bitch.”> Write in
>>31265817>Polite/Neutral
>>31265773it was reserved. you pay for it after you stay. have you never stayed in a hotel before? i don't dough there is some cancellation fees, but those will be small compared to what you would normally spend. sorry you are not mature enough to understand that.
>>31265504Definitely.>>31265614Schteel, i'd like to suggest that just participation in matches should confer some xp like a training session. Like 2-3 xp.>>31265782
>>31265817>"It wasn't luck, it was skill."
>>31265817>PoliteWe made a good strategy, stuck to it (except for our glorious wildcard), and it panned out. We made a small mistake, but we did our research on the team and knew what we were doing.
>>31265838Damn it, missed up the link.>>31265782
>>31265817>> Polite – “Wildcards are a bitch.”This seems appropiateMVP: Bearcat (Breaking their formation)Honorable Mention: Girl Scouts (Getting the Flag/First Kill)Polish Team (First Kill)
>>31265711Yes I know that worked, it was demonstrated above. Lets focus on whether my insane ideas work or not. And yes, that was a problem that our forces may have frenzied. Given that it happened anyway its kind of a moot point.>>31265716Our force isn't the only one. We have Kate as well and our forces are actually mobile enough to counter enemy attacks.We're not the lumbering beast Kuro was. We have a large number of medium tanks and the KV-85 which really isn't a heavy tank anymore frankly.>>31265817> Polite – “Wildcards are a bitch.”
>>31265817> Polite – “Wildcards are a bitch.”
>>31265817>> Polite – “Wildcards are a bitch.”Just seemed appropriate>>31265865Not to mention we didn't overestimate the enemy
>>31265841That's actually an incredibly good idea, I feel bad for not thinking of that.So to retcon then, we have the Robert A. Heinlein Match, the match against William Adams, Walter Christie, the Practice match against Saunders, and now Chi-Ha-Tan.Participation will confer a flat 5% regardless of role or things done.
>>31265923...Are we Elite yet?Oh Excel anon where art thou?!
>>31265817> Seemed way too easy.> Polite – “Wildcards are a bitch.”> Write in"Still... I think some of the crews need a lesson in patience. It doesn't have to be on the level of Kursk, of course."
>>31265817>Write in"They weren't so disciplined as we expected. And they should buy better tanks, even if they are not Asian ones. Maybe we should give Chi-Ha-Tan a call later and give them some tips. Or offer them the Chi-ha at a big discount."
>>31265873But you decided to do a fucking charge is what the problem was! That's what we are focusing on, that insane idea that was not part of the plan! Also if things went FUBAR Kate's team would have been alone, leaving only her and the rookies to deal with the situation.We're not having a repeat of Willaim Adams
>>31265866...are you dense?Why do you thinkt he 8 grand was removed from the budget?It wasn't reserved, you shitbird, it was all paid for.That's a ton of cash down the drain.Fucking Christ. Think before you speak huh?
>>31265923Guess we don't need to worry too much about Eliting our crews now. Wasn't our crew at 76% btw?
>>31265959>>31265959I think we got to about 85% IIRC.
>>31265873Kate and Michelle already had problems keeping CHT sighted. if they were at maximum shoot and scoot, there's no way Michelle would've been able to engage.They would've blended right back into the background with nothing to show for it except 3 or 4 dead or useless tanks.
>>31265981Participation is only a flat 5% rate, meaning we participate even once we only get 5%, any other matches don't build up
>>31265923(Excel anon here)Love you schteel. Will get to work on it.>>31265959Soon. Gimme a sec.Oh god, why am I on mobile. If someone wouls be so kind as to help me see when the other teams came into the picture.
>>31265923Thank you Schteel. we have a limited window to get our teams elite, this will help so much.
>>31266019Remember Excel Anon, we only get 5% for all the matches we had, it doesn't build up
>>31265959This is where we stand from a thread or two ago.
>>31265923So we gain 5% for each match or just 5% for one match and it doesn't build up?
>>31266056it's 5% per match, regardless of things done or not.
>>31265967Yes I know, hence my statement that I would go along with the majority from now on. Apologies for what happened before.The idea is things don't go FUBAR. So long as the plan is meticulously prepared then casualties are at a minimum.William Adams would have been fine if people stuck to the plan. Which was to assault the river and hold the bridgehead. But somehow people thought the plan was to sit on our side and let them come to us.>>31266014If we're talking about Kate then she doesn't need to hit, just surround them. There will be time to wipe them out when they have no where to run.If you're talking about us, then that's why we have the scouts to look/blunder on the ambush while the heavier tanks keep their front armor to the enemy.
>>31265817>> Polite – “Wildcards are a bitch.”
>>31266056For every match a crew participates in, they'll gain five percent.> PoliteYou shrug, smiling. “Wildcards are a bitch, Lisa. Just be glad they’re our wildcard and not theirs. But you know, we should keep training and the like. The next team probably won’t be as tricky as Chi-Ha-Tan.”The Loading Elevator reaches the top to the cheers of many LGA students, mostly freshmen, and BFP students. You and your crews all stand and wave as the transporters are waved through.Maho, Miho, and Erika are within the crowd. They wave at you, smiling politely.The BFP student with the glasses turns to you. “So, where shall we head, Pool-san?”> Tankery HQ> Take everyone back to their Dorms> FUCKING LET’S GO TO AN ALL YOU CAN EAT> Other (Suggestions?)
>>31266042Im reading it as a 5% per match. Regardless of things done. Also, Gertudes crew is currently at 97 XP.JUST A BIT MORE
So... how are the delinquents doing? I'm worried about them.
>>31266073>Party like it's 1989 at HQ
>>31266073I don't mind eating but can we make a quick detour to see the Naval studies? If they're still protesting then we can go and show our support before doing other things.
>>31266073>> FUCKING LET’S GO TO AN ALL YOU CAN EATUSA USA USA
>>31266073> FUCKING LET’S GO TO AN ALL YOU CAN EAT
>>31266073>> FUCKING LET’S GO TO AN ALL YOU CAN EATWe're hungry!Also Trude is almost elite with 97%
>>31266073>> Tankery HQOPEN AIR PARTY.ORDER FOOD AND DRINKS TO BE DELIVERED.
>>31266073>FUCKING LET’S GO TO AN ALL YOU CAN EAT>You guys know of any good Australian Teams we could face?
Not that I'm not grateful, but that EXP bonus seems like too much.>>31266073> Tankery HQOrder stupid amounts of food. Straight up dumb quantities.
>>31266114Second'd
>>31266156Seems okay to me, the only ones that get the full benefit are the first five teams, and it gradually decreases
>>31266156Trudy & Pals have, unironically, seen some shit.That said, I think 2.5% a match might be a better pace, although I'm willing to admit that dumpshock could be a factor here.I don't know. I think it's ok.
>>31266073And invite CHT, or their officers, at least ?
>>31265972And here i voted to camp out. I wanted to put that money into improved engines. But the anons are spastic and screw up. just let it go anon, we won and so the school lives longer too. on the upside, we might become more of a sponsorship magnet now that we have won so many from out of nowhere.
>>31266209Shut up, retard. I nor anyone else solicited your opinion.
>>31266156Well here's the thing.It seems like a lot sure, but that will only get our first few crews up to elite status with assurance. Given our newer crews down the line will have less, it gives the option of trying to get them to elite as well, albeit it might be hard.I'd point out we're a little behind. Last time we looked at Pravda they had a third elite. There was Nonna's IS-2, Katyusha's KV-2 and a random T-34/76 that had an elite crew.
>>31266073> FUCKING LET’S GO TO AN ALL YOU CAN EAT>>31266102good point. see how they are doing after all.
>>31266219
>>31266176>and it gradually decreasesWhat do you mean?>>31266182>>31266234We are going to play 2 more matches before the finals plus 2 or so more practice ones hopefully. Our 8 other crews from the first tournament match are near guaranteed to Elite if we keep up with regular training and hand everyone a book. We also need to use Wendy until she gives us a Command Perk, so that's a bit of extra EXP.
>>31266234They already carried their elite status in from earlier, and that T-34 crew was probably already close to elite at the end of the last season.Without basis in fact, I want to say that we're ahead of the curve. having several crews go from nothing to elite in a single season? That's pretty insane.
>>31266280Our newer crews didn't participate in the other matches, so their exp bump decreases
> ALL YOU CAN EAT BITCHES TIME TO NUT UP OR SHUT UPYou chow down on some spicy BBQ ribs as your crews mow down their dinners at this particular Bar and Grille that’ll let you eat for free.“Go! Go! Go!” All the loaders cheer on the two loaders having a drinking contest, with soda of course. These two loaders happen to be Wendy Kniep and Jane Bradley. They drop their cans, smashing them into the table flat.Jane grabs her chest, burping a little. “Oh, oh boy. Excuse me!”Wendy’s burp is so loud that it briefly silences the place. Wendy looks around, pink in the cheeks. “Ah, sorry. Excuse me.” Everyone bursts into laughter, patting Wendy on the back and the shoulders as they bring in more soda. That can’t be healthy.Regardless though, the rest of the place is full of life and vigor. The Freshmen play some music with their instruments. The Ace Crew have a nice chat with the rest of the Girl Scouts and the Aviation Studies Club about their wildcat attitude, and the Delinquents all laugh and chat happily as they compare bruises from their fall. Even the BFP girls are in amongst, Erika deciding to join in on the soda drinking contest against Wendy.Nancy says, “Everyone seems so happy!”“Well,” says Lisa. “No shit.”> Finish up and Head Home> Converse Casually (Topic?)> Talk Tanks (Topic?)> Talk with a Crew (Specify)> Call Someone (Specify)> Read a Book (Specify)> Consult the Shop (Specify)> Study a Tankery Team (Specify)> Other
>>31266234>I'd point out we're a little behind'Mite b cool if we could keep track of how much elites the other teams have.
>>31266281Except oorai.Their entire line up is elite.Including that one tank that only played one match.THAT is insane.
>>31266321>> Converse Casually (Topic?)>> Talk Tanks (Topic?)Ask Nancy to find a team to have a match during Shore Leave>Talk to Maho thanking her for the advice and ask if she;s having fun
>>31266321>soda>soda>soda>sodaCan't fucking wait until Trudy goes to college on a tankery scholarship and starts partying with the Modern kids.>Shoot the shit w/ everyone
>>31266321>> Converse Casually (Topic?)Find maho and her friends.
>>31266321> Talk with a Crew (Thunder Child)> Talk Tanks (Panther repairs, cleaning up the tanks, general maintenance, etc.)Gertrude mentioned something about pitching in the tank repairs.
>>31266321> Call Someone: Dad and little sis!
>>31266346Oorai is governed by the speed of plot. They're not relevant to this specific discussion.But yes, shit's bananas.
>>31266281Oh yes, the IS-2 and KV-2 were already Elite, that goes without saying. But the T-34/76 is the interesting tidbit.And Ooarai went from nothing to 8 Elite with fewer matches overall. Although how Anteater managed to pull that off...
>>31266321>> Consult the Shop (Specify)>Comp Spec M4A3 (5,000)>Panther Ausf G (Girl Scouts)>Somua S40 (Girl Scouts)
>>31266321>Talk to Maho>Get Lisa/Nancy on to finding Australian Tankery Teams we can fight
>>31266321>>31266360>>31266355>>31266377This
>>31266369>>31266367See above.
>>31266409Fair enough.
>>31266321>Spend the night with Willmot
>>31266422Not that quest anon, but Eckhart best girl.
>>31266440But that's wrong, Julie is.
>>31266449Knight girl clearly is the best.
>>31266422>>31266440>>31266449> Not picking Garrison
>>31266449>Not garrisonWhy do you not want a bodyguard waifu anon?
> Talk to MahoYou sit down next to Maho, Miho, and Akaboshi. “Hey, Maho. Enjoying yourself?”Maho nods. Akaboshi is about to say something, but Maho cuts her off. “You performed well against Chi-Ha-Tan,” she says in her thick Japanese accent.You smile. “Thanks, and also thanks for the advice you gave me. I suppose that was really crucial stuff you know?”Maho says, “Battles can be won with but a single word I suppose. I am just glad you took my words to heart. You have great potential.”Miho says something in Japanese, to which Akaboshi translates it as, “Nishizumi-san tells you that she looks forward to your future matches, and that she hopes you will cheer her on during her match against Robert A. Heinlein on Monday.”“We’ll see,” you say. “Go ahead and enjoy yourselves,” you say as you stand to leave. You look over to see Erika chugging a two liter bottle of Sprite while staring Wendy dead in the eye. All the loaders look on, amazed.“How does she do that?” says Elouise.“I don’t know, it’s like she doesn’t know when to lose,” says Bradley.You walk over to your crew. Nancy says, “Like you requested, we’re looking up local teams to spar with when we arrive at Australia.”“Thanks,” you say. > Finish up and Head Home> Converse Casually (Topic?)> Talk Tanks (Topic?)> Talk with a Crew (Specify)> Call Someone (Specify)> Read a Book (Specify)> Consult the Shop (Specify)> Study a Tankery Team (Specify)> Other
>>31266491>>31266500I was just making a joke, I have no idea what's going on anymore
Okay guys, we should talk about the Somua.It's currently the second worst tank in our lineup operated by one of our best crews. To be clear, it can't sustain any significant damage, it can't put rounds downrange like our other tanks, and it only moves as quick as a typical medium.The thing is arse and the S40 doesn't solve that.The S40 was a project that intended to cheapen production, shore up shoddy manufacturing standards, add a stronger engine, and improve suspension. It didn't touch it's armour or the 47mm gun. The end result was a tank that could climb better and would move 45km/h rather then 40km/h. We don't need this.The SAu is a casemate assault vehicle armed with a 75mm cannon, similar armour to the S35, and a stronger engine. Sounds kind of nifty, right? From what I could find, it would be equipped with the Canon de 75 mm type APX. According to >http://france1940.free.fr/armee/otdb1.html it could penetrate 50mm of armour at 1000m. I invite you to compare it to our StuG III which has a 7.5 cm KwK 40 L/43 and is built off of the PzIII chassis rather then the underpowered and underarmoured S35. We don't need an underperforming assault gun either.There's nothing we can do with the Somua. Keeping the Somua isn't good for the team and upgrading it is an active detriment as the freebie can be better spent.(cont.)
>>31266544We need to put our great crew in a great tank. We're getting a Chaffee soon, a vehicle that crews normally with 4. With Octavia's bonus, we can reduce that undermanned penalty.Now I'm not necessarily saying that's where they should go, it's just a suggestion, but we definitely shouldn't field the S35 next round. No matter what angle you look at it, it's just bad when we could have better.We could sell it and spend the money elsewhere or keep it around as a trainer since we're trying to drop the Chi-Ha, it doesn't really matter to me. I'd be happy even just leaving them alone in the S35 and not touching them again. Anything's better then upgrading it.Please reconsider your plans for the tank.>inb4 keeping crews happy is importantMechanically, there's no long term penalty. They can take a morale hit, they'll get re-familiarized with the tank. If Schteel reveals there's a permanent EXP loss, which there's no indication of, even that hardly matters. There's plenty of time to Elite and it will be made easier with a gun that can engage more targets then the 47mm could.Talking as if this were reality it still doesn't matter. They're on a sports team, we're managing them for their and our own benefit. People don't sulk forever. After a while they realize it hardly mattered at all. Trying to coddle the people you manage is to everyone's detriment; nothing gets done and bad decisions are allowed to slide because you're terrified of making someone upset.
>>31266544>>31266571Man you again?Same counter argument as before. There's much better ways to spend our money.Come back in like, a months time.
Gentlemen, heres the temp chart.I will need to go through it again later today to double check it but for now, it should do.
>>31266571You're well articulated, but, mostly importantly, your timing is much better than any discussion has been.You didn't change my opinion because I had already agreed with you and anons like you.
>>31266523> Call Someone dadi just love to hear him whooping it up.
>>31266523> Talk with a Crew (Thunder Child)> Talk Tanks (Panther repairs, cleaning up the tanks, general maintenance, etc.)>she hopes you will cheer her on during her match against Robert A. Heinlein on Monday.Aw, but Gertrude's Kay tier broseph is on that ship! Not to mention her and Kitten's childhood buddy.But it's a sure bet that Griselda will be rooting for Ooarai, so I guess it balances out.Say, is Trudy gonna watch this match on site or over the television?
>>31266571could you shut the fuck up
>>31266544>>31266571For one the Chaffee is a crew of 5 making it harder for a team to adjust,Two, the 47mm was improved to a better model with a longer barrel thus better penetration.Lastly, its a Calvary tank and it is a tank focused on scouting, we're getting the Chaffee, we're getting crews for them
>>31266594...did you even read what he had said?>>31266602Looks about right. I posted the screenshot from last time earlier. Very close to an elite Bearcat crew.WILDCARD BITCHES
>>31266626Octavia training doesn't give a shit.We'll slam them into twice weekly private sessions with Octavia until they get used to it.Stop defending the Somua. It's long past its prime.
>>31266594I'm actually completely different from that guy. I believe acting like an asshole won't help you win arguments, so I try to be civil as best as I can manage. >>31266615Sorry, but this is an important topic to discuss I think.>>31266626The Chaffee was historically crewed by four as a dedicated loader was sometimes redundant, it was found. I don't see much reason it can't be operated by three if our other crews do well enough undermanned.But as I said, just so long as we don't try upgrading the S35, I'm happy enough.
>>31266571>Talking....upsetThat kind of exaggeration and insults aren't going to win over anyone. >People don't sulk foreverRead the morale section again and see what happens at 5%.
>>31266544>>31266571>>31266646This isn't WoT where a lower tier tank becomes completely useless anon. They've proven already with 3 kill to their name that they could still be a mean player in a fight.
>>31266646So we're putting our whole crew which can better be served overall using Wendy?I'm not annoyed at the Somua but more for the fact that we're putting a three man crew into a 5 man tank. Also this was the same argument used for the T-34-85, so don't start with Octivia shit. We can find a crew for the Chaffee which can be fully manned.
>>31266633>>31266676Ah sorry. I had a kneejerk reaction. In that case, yes I agree with him. Just leave the damn thing alone.
>>31266677Goddamn. You're not refuting any of his fucking points, all you're doing is just blowing smoke or strawmanning to deflect the issue.
>>31266676>But as I said, just so long as we don't try upgrading the S35, I'm happy enough.This is my opinion as well.I'll agree to slap on spaced armour and improved engines but thats about it.
>>31266676Can i get some sources on that though please? Fine, Fine we don't have to upgrade it, but we're so close to eliting Sewing team, that I find it irritating to just change their tank
>>31266678ya once they elite they are gonna fuck even more shit up
>>31266678None of us made any comparison to WoT at all?>>31266690I said "private session." C'mon, Anon, please? Please read what others write.Private sessions with Octavia, team practices with Wendy.C'mon, man. Just try to meet me halfway.
>>31266676>But as I said, just so long as we don't try upgrading the S35, I'm happy enough.Fine, I'll relent on that but I will put it as a priority (a rather very low priority) but I relent, it just don't want them to switch tanks and have this whole fight again.
> Talk with a Crew (Team Thunder Child)> Talk Tanks“So, Dory. How are we up on fixing the Panther?”Slade rolls her eyes. “Pfft. Fixing that piece of shit? Please.”Dana says, “Why not, Slade? It’ll be fun! The Panther is an amazing tank with a great record historically, it’s only held back by the fact that it had a really shitty engine at times and-“Slade says, “Shut up, Dana.”Dory says, “Well, Gertrude. If you’re free to help, we are going to be fixing up the Panther Monday morning when it comes by Mr. Mishka’s shop. Wouldn’t take too long, just got to buff out all the dents.”You nod. “I’ll see if I’m free.” Your phone rings right then and there.> Griselda (Little Sister)> Answer> Don’t Answer
>>31266743I'll meet you half way but you don't want the S40 but I do.We'll put it on hold for now then, as a very low priority upgrade but I want to keep it for sewing team.is that fine?
>>31266747There is no fucking issue with them switching tanks.A practice or two of re-adjustment? Reversible morale loss?Morale loss isn't even guaranteed. They'd probably like to have a tank that can hang with late war units.Please stop using that as an excuse.Leaving the S35 as it is is only prolonging the problem. Prune the plant so it can flower properly, damnit. Get rid of a weak tank and put them into a more powerful unit so they can do more for the team.Jesus. I'm not asking y'all to move a mountain.
>>31266772>> AnswerWe should talk with that delinquent whom we're suppose to be friends with after this.And congratulate the girls scouts on their first kill.
>>31266772> AnswerI wonder if our sister can donate another tank.
>>31266772> AnswerOh yeah! Almost forgot about the autograph from the Nishizumi sisters!
>>31266772>> Answer
Why don't you just give them two tanks?No morale loss, they can gain familiarity with the new tank in their spare time, everyone's happy except our budget which will be crying a river.
>>31266797OH SHIT. YES.Or...PASS THE PHONE TO MAHO FOR HER TO PICK UP.
>>31266779I strongly disagree, I just wanted you to read what I was actually saying.I desperately and thoroughly want to move Anna & Pals from the S35 into a lot of other tanks that aren't the S35 or otherwise regressing or backsliding.
>>31266721I'm not sure what counts for reliable sources, so sorry if it turns out I'm wrong.>http://afvdb.50megs.com/usa/m24chaffee.htmlI don't want to look for the scans of this page's references, that's a big pile of trouble.
>>31266781they like french tanks one. two they lose Exp
>>31266772> Answer
>>31266781Why are you so eager to sell the thing?It's a fucking scout tank, we use it to scout not to fucking fight! it's the same shit and argument with the fucking hellcat and Stuart but we got a compromise with that.Find me a scout tank that can house only three crew members that's better then the Somua then I'll let it go.We have more important stuff then bitching about the Somua.
>>31266743Maybe not but that's exactly what it sounds like to me. There is no "problem" with keeping them in the Somua. The Somua has already made 3 kills and unlike the Stuart, there is no real pressing need to upgrade it.I agree to upgrading it into a Sau or an S40, but it's still a low priority because there is nothing wrong with the damn tank.
>>31266781If we want to talk about S35, we ought talk about Chi-Ha too.at least Chi-Ha can be upgraded into Chi-Nu which basically poor man's sherman, and maybe we can type 3 75mm to make it better but no word from schteel about that. We can always sold it ofc.I am not opposing switching Somua with Chaffee anyway, just reminding other thing we need to think about.
>>31266820second this!Pass the phone to her! tell Maho this is our little sister!
>>31266862No, they don't "lose xp," they lose a familiarization BONUS.BONUS.Which comes right back when they get re-acquainted with their new ride.Goddamn, Anon. Please fucking think a little bit.>>31266869I don't even care if we sell it. I just don't want Needlepoint to be using it in ITL matches because it's now deadweight.And, not really, discussion about roster is always of relevance and priority.
>>31266815Take a page from the Fujiwara style training method?Drive both a Trueno (S35 comparison) and an Impreza (Cromwell, Chaffee, whatever comparison).They'll see the difference in performance and judge for themselves.
>>31266879Well the chi-ha is slated to be sold off. We're gonna see if we can get CHT interested in it.Did we get their number? We should ask Maho if she has Nishi's number.
>>31266869It's a pretty shit scout; half of our mediums move faster then it.You know, that and it can't engage anybody reliably. Did you see what Janek could do in the Scott this match? Wouldn't it be nice to have more then one scout capable of providing fire support?
>>31266903you are wrong it is not dead weight since a scout is never dead weight for good Intel wins everything
>>31266879I think the Chi-Ha should be removed from ITL match roster as well.I don't care if we keep it, I just don't think it's reasonable to keep in play.
>>31266903How is it deadweight though?Tell me when it wasn't effective in our matches to far, and looking at the matches ahead, their are no real teams that make this completely obsolute. Also considering it's a scouting tank, it's not there for the fighting.
Not too shabby
>>31266953It's not a scout. It's a medium tank with a larger silhouette of average speed and average cross-country mobility.What the hell, man?
>>31266937>Did you see what Janek could do in the Scott this matchThat's largely due to Janek and her team, which are all very talented. Had we put Janel in the Somua, things would have gone similarly.
>>31266937Please refer to any matches that we had....it performed well with the 47mm and it has more kills.
>>31266923>>31266953So nobody even think to upgrade it?Oh well.
>>31266979It's a Calvary Tank, the british and french had different doctrines, Calvary tanks we're essentially scouts
> Answer“Bonjour, ma soeur. What’s up?”“You won against Chi-Ha-Tan!”“Griselda, please put Dad on before he embarrasses himself again.”“Too late, he’s already out in the street. Hold on, I’ll catch up to him.” There’s a pause as Griselda huffs and puffs after a cheering Dad. “Daddy! It’s Gertrude!”Dad answers the phone. “You won! You won again! It’s nothing but winning with you! It’s so great! Why are you so great?”“Because Mom gave birth to me?”“That’s right! Jesus Christ! One second.” Dad’s voice gets a little muffled as he yells. “Hey, Asshole! My daughter is still better than yours!” His voice returns to normal. “Haha! But seriously, I’m so proud of you, Gertrude. Good luck in the next few matches, we’re rooting for you!”Griselda takes the phone back. “Yeah, we all are! Good luck!”“Will do,” you say. “Also, one second.” You lean over to Maho and Miho, whispering into their ears something devious. You get back to the phone. “Listen, some acquantices of mine are going to call you later, okay? Okay.”“Right, love you Gertrude!”“Love you, Sis.”With that, you hang up. Kitten taps your shoulder. “Hey, Trudy. Want to head home?”> WANT TO HEAD HOME?> Y/N> Other
>>31267014Y.But first. Get a autograph for little sister.
>>31267014>OtherI want to see when Erika loses
>>31267014> YGet that autograph as well.
>>31267014>YDon't forget the autograph as well.
>>31267014>YBut I want to see the end of the loader contest
>>31266960It's not a "scout." Calling it a scout doesn't make it a scout, much like me calling a cat a dog doesn't suddenly make my cat a dog.It's deadweight because any future matches will put it up against tanks who will be able to very easily damage (mobility, weapons, or even total kill) it while the Somua will generally be unable to return fire in a meaningful way.The 47mm was a pretty good gun...early war. Note how I said early war.Once the mid-war Panzer 3s and Panzer 4s started rolling out it was demonstrated how outclassed the 1930s to early WWII tanks were.It's not completely obsolete - it's just effectively so. A T-34-42 or -43 or -44 with its improved 76mm, or a -57, or -85, or Panzer 4 starting from F2 and on, or a Sherman with its 76mm, or a Commonwealth tank with their 6pdr or 17pdr, etc.The list of weapons that can penetrate the Somua is much longer than the list of tanks that the Somua can reasonably engage, which is made even worse due to the compeitition-aspect of tankery, where everyone fields the very highest achieving/"best," tanks that WWII produced.it isn't competing against early panzer 1s or panzer 2s. It's competing against late-war Panzer 4s, or T-34s, or Panthers, or Shermans, or Commonwealth tanks, etc.
>>31267007No, anon.Cavalry tanks were those meant to go fast and engage other tanks.Infantry tanks were the ones that rolled with the infantry and used large-caliber high explosive shells to explosively demolish fortified positions, machine gun nests, etc.Please, Anon? C'mon man. I'm not asking you to do anything unreasonable.
>>31267085>The list of weapons that can penetrate the Somua is much longer than the list of tanks that the Somua can reasonably engage, which is made even worse due to the compeitition-aspect of tankery, where everyone fields the very highest achieving/"best," tanks that WWII produced.> teams fielding panzer 1s> teams fielding chi-has and I-gos
>>31266991>it's competing against late-war Panzer 4s, or T-34s, or Panthers, or Shermans, or Commonwealth tanks, etc.Which is what they've been facing up against since the very beginning? And they've still performed better than some of our other teams anon.
>>31267085It's a Calvary Tank. Also have you seen the lineup on some of our future opponents? Again find me a "Scout" for a three man crew, that is more effective then the Somua, then I'll consider it
>>31267125shhhhh minmaxers do not understand facts
>>31267125> teams fielding panzer 1s> teams fielding chi-has and I-gosThe last one don't fare so well. And Ooarai I-Go has Ooaranium bolted on them.>>31267138I believe you quoting wrong post, mate.
>>31267125>What is a gimmick team, or teams that are recalcitrant or unwilling.>>31267138They really haven't, though. Lafayette has faced nothing but gimmick teams with the exception of Heinlein, who were basically playing with a handicap. Lafayette lost.Needlepoint performs better because they ARE better. They would perform even better than that if they weren't hamstrung by the S35.
>>31267154It's just that his argument is reminding me of WoT's "Lower tier tanks can't do shit to higher-tier tanks" logic, and that rankles my autism.
>>31267014>Yget an autograph
>>31267110>>31267140C'mon, Anon. You can't say words without understanding them, and when you make posts like that it's very clear you don't understand what a cavalry tank even is, or what they did.
>>31267170ya his kind are the worse
>>31267169One of the reasons they perform so well it's the fact that they have a tank that fits their crew.
> YErika throws down her 2-liter of soda, the third one. She’s red in the cheeks, apparently somehow drunk off of soda. “I am not finished, you American…” She lazily points at Wendy. “American… FUCK!”Wendy nods, casually throwing away her fifteenth 2-liter. “Sure. Just so you know, I’m probably going to be really depressed tomorrow, I cut out soda entirely from my diet until just today.”Erika says, “I tell you something! I won’t lose to…” She slams her head down on the table. Defeated. All the loaders cheer. Several BFP students tend to her quickly. You also stop by to get a quick autograph from Maho and Miho, they have some pretty neat English style signatures too. You give it to Ramirez to mail to Griselda.Thusly, you and Kitten walk home together. Kitten smiles, humming happily. You say, “You’re in a good mood.”“Of course!” says Kitten. “We won! How about that, you know?”“Well,” you say. “I have to say, it was a pretty easy win. Can’t wait to see what’s in store for us next.”You arrive back at the dorms. Kitten stops at her door, looking at you. “Want to bunk with me tonight? Celebrate some good times?” she says eagerly.> WANT TO BUNKER WITH HER TONIGHT? CELEBRATE SOME GOOD TIMES?> Y/N> Other
>>31267170That reminds me on Listy's article about Indo-Paskitani war... where India's Sherman managed to destroy Pakistani's Pattons and held their ground. Thats like... tier 5 vs tier 9?And min-maxing be damned, we got whole school in stake here.
>>31267167oops yea didn't notice that.>>31267169> Lafayette has faced nothing but gimmick teamsGimmick teams has nothing to do with it. You argue that the Somua will become useless because it will face mid to late-war tanks such as the M4 Sherman and the Cromwell, but the Somua has in fact faced against them and not only has it proved to be able to get by, it got 3 kills just fine.
>>31267235>> Y
>>31267186But am I wrong that the Somua wasn't an effective scout? Am I wrong that the British to some extent used Cruiser tanks to scout? I'm sorry for my misuse of the term Calvary tank but the whole 'big' gun part of the argument is irritating
>>31267235YBedtime celebrations wooo
>>31267235> YAlways.
>>31267235> Y
>>31267235>YFine, We one today, victory high!
>>31267235>Y
>>31267235>YWas there ever any doubt
>>31267202And I'm not suggesting putting them into a tank that would require a crew of 20 to operate effectively.I'm saying there are plenty of 4-man tanks out there that do what a Somua did (standard medium tank designed for a wide variety of engagements), but in a package that improves speed, protection, and projection of force.Couple of options just off the top of my head: Firefly, T-34-85. Both very high performing tanks, can more or less reliably engage nearly anything they might come across. Crews of 4, Octavia training.
>>31267235>Bunker with the tsundere meganekko barmaid
>>31266914In a manner of speaking.I just want these endless arguments to stop as they're really inconsequential overall. The best idea I have to stop that is to give them two tanks. Let them love both tanks and learn to drive both tanks then there's no morale loss and we can have a better tank too. It also fits in well with the money problem argument. We'll only do this if every other aspect of our team has been maxed out. At that point, don't bother switching the tank, just give them another one and call it a day. Shit every other team does it, so can we.
>>31267331Actually a good idea.
>>31267235> Y>>31267014>You lean over to Maho and Miho, whispering into their ears something devious. You get back to the phone. “Listen, some acquaintances of mine are going to call you later, okay? Okay.”I just belatedly realized something.Seeing how much of a Tankery fangirl Griselda is, at some point she is gonna ask Miho about a certain Japanese festival dance that she and her crew performed in.
>>31267262It was pressed into "scouting," service when the free French operated with the Allies because it couldn't reliably engage P3s/P4s, and because Heer anti-tank guns would quickly and easily knock it out.Any success it had at being a scout was unintentional in regards to its design and construction.>>31267253Because the teams we have faced are, literally, not good. This is objective because this is Lafayette's first season, with a mishmash of tanks bought by mad(wo)men (Anon).
>>31267293What's irritating is that the Somua has done really well and we have other thing to concern ourselves with,Also against late war teams have their own gimmick tanks, or tanks that the Somua can still fight and has been an effective scout regardless of what people say otherwise.
>>31267382all the teams we have fought have been good
>>31267235>WANT TO BUNKER WITH HER TONIGHT? CELEBRATE SOME GOOD TIMES?After rereading this, I'm a little confused at the meaning
> YYou clink glasses of milk with Kitten. “To victory,” you both say.“And to LGA,” you say. Kitten smiles at that, then you both drink up. You’ve dressed down out of your Tankery Uniform and into your blouse and one of Kitten’s boxer shorts. Kitten herself has done the same, switching the boxers for panties however.Kitten says, “Gotta says, Trudy. The more we progress into this tournament, the more I’m honestly believing we can win it.”You look at her, confused. “You seriously thought we were going to lose?”“Couple of times,” says Kitten. “Like at the bridge, further back there was also that moment of chaos with Walter Christie. Then that one time with Adams when we got overturned.” She looks down, placing your and her glasses at the end table by the bed. “I’m sorry, Trudy. I really am.”> Boast – “Glad I proved you wrong though, right?”> Neutral – “At least you admit it.”> Polite – “There’s no need to be sorry, Kitten.”> Write in
>>31267407but...Lafayette isn't, at all.Our success is more or less accidental.Just look at today. Fucking people voting to push across the bridge when we KNOW Charlie's in the trees?No, LGA is so very not good. Lucky, maybe, but not good.>>31267391Yes, nobody is saying the S35 is a "bad," tank. It was a very good tank for its time ('30s to about '41'42). What I and everyone else is suggesting is that it's time to retire the S35 and bring in a more capable tank.
>>31267372Cue Nanashiro Gorou's trademark empty eyes.
>>31267444>> Boast – “Glad I proved you wrong though, right?”
>>31267442Typo.
>>31267444> Polite – “There’s no need to be sorry, Kitten.”
>>31267444>> Polite – “There’s no need to be sorry, Kitten.And gentle as well
>>31267448you and the other guy have been saying it is shit and everyone else has been pretty much telling you to shut up>>31267444> Polite – “There’s no need to be sorry, Kitten.”
>>31267444> Boast – “Glad I proved you wrong though, right?”>>31267448It's still capable now. That's what bothers me. we have 5 more slots for a full roster so we have more then enough to have a bunch of good tanks.We have plenty of effective tanks now.I just feel that it's some big plan either to install a big gun team.
>>31267444> Polite>>31267448It's just that some anons are insistent on that subject and are overblowing the situation, yes I agree we should upgrade it to something better but since it is already capable for the time being, we should focus on getting more crews and tanks first, with upgrading the Somua being something that should be done once the former have been taken care of.
>>31267444>> Polite – “There’s no need to be sorry, Kitten.”
>>31267444>> Boast – “Glad I proved you wrong though, right?”Why are we being polite, it's time for celebration and it kind of sound like a downer.
>>31267444>> Polite – “There’s no need to be sorry, Kitten.”>>31267526the celebration already happened and for me at least it sounds better
>>31267444> Polite – “There’s no need to be sorry, Kitten.”>>31267450For some reason (and I know I shouldn't be bullying garupans) whenever this happens to Saori, I don't feel the least bit sorry for her at all.
>>31267505>more capable>"more" capable>moreAnon, please. Anna & Pals are one of the most veteran crews, it makes the most sense to put them in a more effective tank rather than recruiting and training a crew from zero.>>31267497It's pretty shit compared to a Firefly, Comet, Panther, Pershing, T-34-85, etc.It's pretty good when it's compared to other vehicles that it would have faced in its timeline.
>>31267520I think since sewing team is close to being Elite they don't want to Elite the Somua since their making the ruckus
>>31267520See the first half of >>31267551
>>31267550Its always funny if Saori have empty eyes.
> BoastYou wrap your arm around Kitten, then gently kiss her on the forehead. “There’s no need to be sorry, Kitten. Fear is a natural thing, alright?”Kitten nods, wrapping her arms around you. “I guess. I have to be honest with you though,” she says. “I don’t have anything to fear when I’m with you.”You smile as you run your fingers through her hair. Just a few months ago, it would’ve been frazzled and greasy, but now it’s soft as silk, even a little fluffy like a pillow. Your little Kitten’s growing up into a fine woman.“Come on,” you say. “Let’s get some sleep.”You bring the blanket over the two of you as lie back in bed. Kitten cuddles up next to you, sighing in bliss.“Good night, Kitten.”“Good night, Trudy.”> END DAY
>>31267551Or just messed them up even more.Also we're close to eliting them though
>>31267640
>>31267640That's it for tonight. Hopefully I will be able to return tomorrow at the usual time of 3 PM. I will update if I can't.Follow at: https://twitter.com/GermanSchteelSee you next time.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qerg0LyLi6c
>>31267646Again, that's a familiarization BONUS. Bonus.Flat bonus that comes and goes. It doesn't take long to get that bonus back.And then, oh wow, it's back.Also: It's only a flat number - it's possible for a crew to be so experienced that they're at 100+ WITHOUT the familiarity bonus, see Kate & Pals for evidence of this.Yes, it can matter, but at a certain point it doesn't.
>>31267572But they only lose the familiarity bonus if moved to a different tank, the bonus still remains if we just upgraded it to another tank like with the Poles and the Scott iirc>>31267582But still a low priority, should it be upgraded in the time of the finals? DefinatelyShould we spend that money now when we should be looking into buying more tanks? No
>>31267654Don't be silly, this is the most heterosexual quest on the board.
>>31267646Yep, better an Elite crew in a good tank then a poor one. When they regain the familiarity bonus they'll Elite, and that would be quick coming.>>31267662Thanks for the thread Schteel, don't stress yourself out if you can help it.
>>31267683We don't have any crews to put into those tanks, even if we did buy them.This is going to be some next level stuff I'm going to propose, bear with me: Buy a new tank, put Needlepoint into the new tank, put a raw crew into the Somua.Repeat this chain until we have 20 tanks.Blew your mind, right?
>>31267662Thanks for running Schteel, just tell us in advance if you can't run this months, you deserve some rest.
>>31267681But the time it will take to bring it back up again. Besides all the tanks mention just with the exception of the Firefly, are all 5 man crews! Another thing all tanks mention previously with exception of the Chaffee are not scouting tanks.
>>31267687>this is the most heterosexual quest on the board.I think we have a nominee for 2014 most funniest joke.>>31267662Thx for the quest, boss. like>>31267693said, don't push it.
>>31267640>Easy victory>Destroyed that evil bridge>Used very little CP>Kitten cuddles up next to you, sighing in bliss.I love you Schteel.
>>31267721Except some crews are bigger then 3 crews.
>>31267721Putting novices on S35 against late-war tanks?I'd rather keep team Needlepoint on S35.>>31267749>>Easy victoryWell, at least Schteel kind enough to not pull Anzio on us.
>>31267662I wish the fight had been more exciting, or at least had more happen, but it was still fun. Thanks for running Schteel.
>>31267771We have been facing Late war tanks since our first match! The Somua still pulled up on top.
>>31267734Firefly and T-34-85 are 4 man crews. This is unrelated. If Needlepoint wants to compete at a higher level they're going to need to recruit at least one more member. It is entirely fair to compare medium tanks to medium tanks.Speak to them about it if you have strong feelings. >>31267753
>>31267734The Somua isn't a scouting tank either, dude. A Cromwell, a Sherman, a Panzer III could do it's job better and be able to engage other tanks like the Scott.Now, that other guy is crazy for wanting to jam them in a 5 crew vehicle, but 4 crew should be entirely fine.Also, they'd get that bonus back pretty fast. Our new crews have managed to achieve it only after a few practices.>>31267771Or we could just not use the S35. I think that's a better solution, ya?
>>31267721>what is the looking for more crews subquestSome tanks need more than 3 crews, also, you are needlesslly fucking up Needlepoint by moving them to a new tank everytime we buy one according to your plan, Also we fuck them up by having them learn from a new tank from scratch everytime.How about this,We keep Needlepoint in the Somua until We have at least 20 tanksAt that point, we either upgrade the Somua, or we buy a fast 3-4 man crew light tank.For the latter option, if we can afford it, have them try out the new tank, but don't move them there yet so they don't get upset, once the get familiar with it, we can transfer them with minimal fuss.
>>31267662Thanks for the thread, Schteel!Anyway, more gifs for the Tonk Fairy!Rather thematic, given the current subject of discussion.
>>31267835>"fucking up"You mean, like, two~ practices worth of tank familiarization? We could have that done in two days if Trudy gave enough shits about her team and less about doting on Kitten.Two days of Trudy/Anna&Pals one on one time. You can't spare two days?You're not offering a compromise, you're offering the deal you want.No thanks.
>>31267798Because we put Anna and co. on it. They are veterans and could pull some trick that some novices can't.>>31267825Tell that to other group that still want to keep S35.
>>31267808Look up the T-34-85, it's a five man crew. That is going to decrease their skill points, their permanent not bonus. Also german has not put in such a system. >>31267825All the tanks you mention above are 5 man tanks.....
>>31267835You're intentionally misinterpreting his plan, bud. Needlepoint moves into a better tank, the Somua sticks around to act as a temporary for new crews like the Chi-Ha. He worded it weirdly, but come on.There's no reason to keep our great crew in a sub-par tank.
>>31267875well then go fuck off
>>31267875The Polish team had two practices passed and were still fucking up.>>31267885They were rookies and they took down a sherman, and a KV-1S.How about we get a full roster and talk about this again.
>>31267904So...that's a no to sparing two days of Gertrude practicing with Needlepoint?>>31267888God damn, it's a familiarization bonus. Crews gain it, crews lose it. It's fluid.
>>31267925They had a pretty deep connection. Call it three or four for them.Less than a week. Not really a big deal, considering matches are 3-4-5-6 weeks apart.How about you stop trying to deflect or put off this discussion.
>>31267898Okay, now that you've cleared that up, I could agree to that, the next step would be to actually find a 3-4 man scout tank with a decent anti-tank capability. But I still maintain that it's a low-priority thing and should be done after we complete a 20-tank roster.
To anyone that think putting 3-girls team to a 5-crew tank is good idea, remember one scene on The White Tiger when titular Tiger sneak up behind the protags T-34-85.>>31267925That is on training match, when all of their opponents are novices too.I doubt other school will bring novices on tournaments.
>>31267934By adding fresh crew to a already effective crew decreases effectiveness. I'm not talking about the familiarization bonus, have you read what I just wrote? Sorry, If I have not been clear. >>31267875Your not compromising either much either
>>31267950So do the Sewing team, they have been using the Somua just as much as they have been using their Stuart. Their two weeks apart.>>31267970What about the fight with Saunders? or Walter Christie?
>>31267958You mean like the Chaffee? Crew of 4, can act as a scout, can challenge tanks; just like the Scott.Dedicated scouts of the war were tanks that couldn't do much else, like the Stuart. Otherwise it was armoured cars and such that filled the role.
>>31267976New girls turn into a radioman and a loader.Not a huge deal. The commander/driver/gunner trifecta is already well in place. Fresh meat gets up to speed by Anna & Pals getting them up to speed.I've been willing to compromise this entire time. I'm not really interested in what you do with the Somua, I just want Needlepoint out of it.Similar case to be made for the polacks in the piece of shit Scott.
>>31268011It's a 5 man crew!
>>31268025That's not compromising, the main reason for the argument is that the Somua is only effective with Needlepoint using it
>>31268011Chaffee can't really challenge tanks. It can beat up other, similar light tanks and any self-propelled guns, but that's about it.It's good for being a scout, and terminating enemy scouts. It's not a combat vehicle in and of itself.>>31268009They haven't really shown any special connection to it like the poles did. Possibly 3 practices? Doubtful it'd be 4.
>>31268031curse me to quote wikipedia... but:>Crew >4 sometimes 5 (Commander, gunner, loader, driver, co-driver/radio operator)The co-driver sometimes acted as the loader and the loader wasn't needed.
>>31268009>What about the fight with Saunders?In that match they acted as a medium, not a scout. They shot with our other tanks and 'stole' the kill.>or Walter Christie?Coming up on the flank of a thinly armoured vehicle? Well that just proves the Somua can contend with competent tanks then, huh?>>31268031Could be operated very well with 4. Again, other teams do undermanned by one.
>>31268063What you're saying is "The somua is only good because it has a good crew. Without its crew, it's a turd."That's what Anon's been saying for the 200 posts.
>>31268011We need to expand our choices though, the Chaffee can apparently function on only 4 crewmembers, I think that it's stretching it, even with Octavia's bonus.>>31268063>>31268088I have no idea what that anon's problem is but he makes it look like a Somua killed his family.
So who do you think will win between Miho and Ace? I'm suspecting Miho.
>>31268088If it ain't broke, don't fix it.I'm getting sick and tired of the same one or two anons spending every single thread bitching about how we don't look or act like Kuromime. Fantasy Tank League isn't even half the point of this Quest.Yuri ship-teasing is at least 60%, after all.
>>31268070If it was a crew of 4, I'll give it to you, but it's mute if we have a crew of three
>>31268143I'm inclined to think that this isn't even worth betting on, but with Schteel having BFP getting their shit trashed by Kursk, I'm not even sure anymore.
>>31268186I'm pretty sure he just does a coin flip if I remember correctly, but it would be surprising if Ace beat a team entirely composed of Elite crews. Oarai also just flat-out feels like a 'final boss' too.
>>31268065You want to ask them? We asked the Polish and they disagreed.>>31268080A 4 man crew operating a 5 man tank makes sense though, your suggesting 3 man crew operating a 5 man tank.>>31268156Don't start with that, I rather take the tank arguement over this shit
>>31268183I'd more concerned how Needlepoint do it.Its clear we'll have Gunner and Driver... but if we only keep Loader then we'll blind and mute. Commander/Loader is not very effective either....Unless we have one more crew (maybe freshman interested in sewing and join them?) we might better hold off this talk.
>>31268285Then we're messing up both crews.Decent Idea compared to the other spreading around but one of the things about tank crew is that they prefer their own crews
>>31268183>>31268245>>31268285Maybe we could wait for Tuesday and see what comes up the shop.Alternatively, we research for an alternative 3-crew light tank, and ask if Perrine can get one for us >>31268308I think he meant a freshman (not from our Freshman Crew, but a different one)
>>312683363-crew lights are early war garbage. The Somua is closer to a medium then a light, so look for a 4-crew medium.
>>31268308sorry, i don't mean our freshman.>>31268336this, i mean entirely new girl. Heck, maybe we can use sewing club quest to gather more member for their club too.There must be at least ONE girl in school interested in fashion and sewing
>>31268336>>31268363If the Chaffee is a bust, the only things decent they can crew are a T-34 or another Scott.Short of either of these, we'd be better off leaving them in the S35.
>>31268506We could also try to see if the Sewing Club can recruit another member, giving us a 4-man crew and thus expanding our choices, dunno if Schteel would even allow that though.
>>31268583We could also just ask Octavia if the three of them can operate a Chaffee. It's still not really clear, though I'm leaning to no.
This is probably going to get ignored, but there's a bunch of little stuff I'd like to see done. Upgrading the Pz IV and Stupa only costs 11k total and the Comp-spec of the Sherman is 5k. This should probably be out of pocket, meaning only gaining a total of 14k on Monday, but I personally think it would be worth it. I'd also like the Stug III to get upgraded, but that's 14.5k and I see more people arguing about that.
>>31268725We still need to buy the Chaffee. I think we're doing that with our money rather then sponsorship.
>>31268753We have 9k I believe, so 39k-11-20=8k~.That's why I said the Stug is more of an issue, it's not that much of an upgrade as far as I can tell and it's rather expensive.
>>312688062k actually.We paid a large part of the 9.9k for the hotel.
>>31268862Oops, yeah. I guess that would leave us a little low on cash. But again, just saying what I'd like to see done.
>>31268891We wonr have wnough money for everything though.I'd suggest we buy the chaffee offhand and wishlist the cromwell.The we can com spec the vintage sherman first.Thay leaves us with 6.9k. Enough for some discretionary expenses if we need to unless we sell off the 120mm and net abit more cash to spend.
>>31268506There's also the BT-7 with a comparable gun and faster speed, the IS-1 which nobody wants despite it being a good idea, the SU series but that would be dumb, the experimental Pz.Sfl. II which looks pretty nifty, the Tetrarch with a comparable gun and way faster speed, the Vickers 6-Ton which is similar to the Tetrarch, and the Valiant which would be slow as shit but otherwise decent~ish.Ya, not many choices for Needlepoint.
>>31268862We have 7k we made money on the Girl Scouts. But seriously we have other tanks to worry about and we're still with the Somua. Honestly I feel next time we get practice we'll have people try and stuff then into a five man tank just to get rid of it like thy did the Stuart
>>31268971>Valiant TankWhat team Needlepoint do to deserve it????I'd rather hope we can get new member for sewing club so we can get more flexibility on assigning Team Neddlepoint.
>>31269037I'm going to love recruiting junior council I swear. Well at least we're not replacing it anytime soon
