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You have always wanted to be an emperor. That ambition has burned dimly in the past, tempered by reality. Now the opportunity to realise your ambition has arrived and you are determined not to let it slip. Now is the time to build your empire and become an emperor.

Last Thread: You are the knight, Talon York, and you are an emperor, but not the emperor… yet. Last thread you laid siege to Taour. You’ve breached the outer wall and while your main forces continue to lay claim to the city, you and your closest comrades are venturing to the peak of the city to explore the vampire rulers’ mansions.

Previous Threads: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Aspiring%20Emperor%20Quest
Twitter: https://twitter.com/AspirationalQM
Master Pastebin (links to all pastebins for AEQ): http://pastebin.com/6Su7M3fh
>no changes since last thread

>some housekeeping
1. Next thread is May 10th at 6pm EDT. Keep an eye on my Twitter as depending on my week, I may instead be taking a weekend off for preparation.

Rolls are d20 and the best of the first three posters. I may sometimes ask for more dice to be rolled by each player, but same rules apply otherwise. Please quote the post you are voting for or rolling against. Note there are hard-to-replace points that can be used to offset failures in rolls. Please see the General Pastebin, linked through the Master Bin above, for more info and detailed dice rules.

>Now, with further ado
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>>31892326
Current Date and Time: Early afternoon on September 2nd, 1952PC

It’s not long before the sounds of the battlefield fade behind you. The shouts, screams and clashing of metal had already become background noises and then they turn into nothing. All that surrounds you is the oppressive silence of this forsaken city.

You’re reorganising Vitria and have angered many of the nobles. Darlesia is a ruin, filled with people struggling to keep going. And Taour… Taour is a monument to human suffering. You’ll truly have your work cut out for you as an emperor after this, you think. You hope once more that the Taourans in the tunnels don’t offer too much resistance – too many charred corpses will be bad for public relations.

Glancing around at the wealthy merchant houses for watchful eyes, you flick open a small magical fob watch. Only a couple of hours into the afternoon. You’re nearly where your map suggests the vampire mansions are, so you won’t need to worry too much about nightwalker ambushes right now. Not that you can tell if they’re weakened at all in that walking coffin armour of theirs by the daytime.

>continued
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>>31892352
“Where’d you get the watch?” Mal asks absent-mindedly. “You usually have a good sense of time or just ask me to tell you.”

“It was a gift from Grandmaster Toren’s daughter,” you say, smiling slightly. “For keeping her father from getting himself killed by fighting me.”

Vad snorts. “When you get back to Vitria, you’ll pay her a personal visit to thank her for the gift and add another notch to your bedposts, right?”

As the others put on looks, ranging from amusement to annoyance, Lynn gives you an odd look.

She says, “Is it really that bad?”

“No,” you say.

“Yes,” says everyone else.

“Free executions for all,” you mutter as you direct everybody to the right. Felix gives you a pat on the shoulder and a grin. You hear Gnome telling Lynn about your conquests.

“Honestly, only fifty, Talon? You disappoint me. I thought you had at least double that,” Mal says, grinning ear to ear.

Idly tripping the smug bastard and giving him a slight push down the hill, you step into the central plaza of Taour. From here, judging from your map, you’ll need to travel in a different direction for each mansion. As the rest of your party gathers, you consider in which direction to venture forth.

>1. Lady Irris’ mansion. The notes hidden in her study may provide you some clues as to Blackwater’s immortality or at least about vampires in general.
>2. Blackwater’s mansion. Tsucchi suspect he had to be keeping his secret lady, who may be the key to his immortality, nearby. His mansion may provide clues if not the secret itself.
>3. Continue scaling the city to reach the government buildings.
>4. Visit another mansion or place. <write-in>
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>>31892372
>>1. Lady Irris’ mansion. The notes hidden in her study may provide you some clues as to Blackwater’s immortality or at least about vampires in general.
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>>31892372
>1. Lady Irris’ mansion. The notes hidden in her study may provide you some clues as to Blackwater’s immortality or at least about vampires in general.
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>>31892372

1
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>>31892372
>1. Lady Irris’ mansion. The notes hidden in her study may provide you some clues as to Blackwater’s immortality or at least about vampires in general.
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>>31892372
>1
We need to solve that Immortality bullcrap first. They likely cleaned the lady's place out, but that doesn't mean we won't find anything within.

Also yay I can participate today.
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>>31892372
>>1. Lady Irris’ mansion. The notes hidden in her study may provide you some clues as to Blackwater’s immortality or at least about vampires in general.
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Hey guys. While waiting for a update I''m going to bring up a magitech idea I had. Make a device that can manipulate the ground. Kind of like how Gnome can build walls then give it out in standardized amount to the soldiers.

That way we can have any mages we have focus only on forting the walls and could do crap like build a fort wall around our armies when we encamp. Forcing pretty much most battles where foes are after us into a siege battle.
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>1.

Heading west towards Lady Irris’ mansion, you keep your guard up even as you move quickly. This area of the otherwise palatial upper grounds is noticeably more run-down. Some buildings show signs of recent construction while others still how broken windows and walls that lay in rubble and splinters. You can sense something lingering nearby. Many somethings. They scratch lightly against your sense but never seem to come any closer.

You call a halt when you catch wind of many of them moving ahead. The rest of your party comes to a halt, looking at you curiously, except for Vad whose ears are twitching as he remains alert.

“Talon, we need to keep moving quickly,” Gnome starts before you cut her off.

“There’s a lot of things moving ahead,” you say, straining your senses to see if that helps you detect the things better. “We should see what they’re doing.”

“Talon, it’s just a bunch of soldiers,” Mal says. “WE can just push through them.”

You frown. That doesn’t seem right.

“They’re not human,” Vad says suddenly. “They’re nightwalkers.”

You nod slowly. For whatever reason, you’re able to barely tell the difference between nightwalkers and regular humans. This should be useful. You’d guess there’s about forty or fifty of them.

If you’re not wrong, the nightwalkers appear to be hurrying on in a direction you don’t want to travel. You…

>1. Engage the nightwalkers. If you take care of them yourselves they won’t trouble your men. This may let any Taouran forces around know you’re here, however.
>2. Ignore them and push on to the mansion.
>3. Split up and send some of your party to fight the nightwalkers. Given the numbers of the enemy, this may go against you.
>4. Custom
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>>31892702
>1. Engage the nightwalkers. If you take care of them yourselves they won’t trouble your men. This may let any Taouran forces around know you’re here, however.
Sala, Roast them
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>>31892702

>>2. Ignore them and push on to the mansion.

We Stealth Now

>>31892733

Sala is in the tunnels
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>>31892702
Hm...
Help our forces, or stealth...

Gah. I say we help our forces.
>1
Please don't do 3 though. That is asking for trouble.
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>>31892733
Sala is the only party member absent. I really should have mentioned that in the opening post given most people would have forgotten in the last week. Sorry about that.
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Rolled 4

>>31892702
>>1. Engage the nightwalkers. If you take care of them yourselves they won’t trouble your men. This may let any Taouran forces around know you’re here, however.
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>>31892702
>1. Engage the nightwalkers. If you take care of them yourselves they won’t trouble your men. This may let any Taouran forces around know you’re here, however.
Need to have our men surviving.
we are up here primarily to assassinate the daywalkers
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>>31892702
>1. Engage the nightwalkers. If you take care of them yourselves they won’t trouble your men. This may let any Taouran forces around know you’re here, however.

This will be a lot easier for us to handle ourselves with all our hero units
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>>31892702
>2
Our current mission is too vital for Blackwater to figure out what we're up to.
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>1.

“Gnome, Undine, Lynn – see if you can’t cut them off as they head south,” you order hurriedly. “The rest of us will try to get their attention and keep them busy while you flank them.”

The three girls nod and, briefly using their sorcery, jump atop the nearby rooftops and disappear. You turn to the others and direct them forward. Breaking into a light run, you should be able to catch the vampires before they disappear. You just know if you ignore them they’ll end up killing many of your men.

“We’re really going to fight fifty nightwalkers?” Vad asks.

As Felix and Mal give you a surprised look at the numbers, you reply, “Just follow my lead and you’ll be fine.”

“You know what the best part of you is, Talon?” Vad asks, grinning. “The fact you don’t seem to comprehend danger. Makes this a lot more fun than my old enforcer missions.”

You round the corner and spot the vampires gathering into a small mass at an intersection ahead. They don’t seem to have noticed you. You draw your bow and prepare an arrow, after signalling to the others to cover you.

It’s not like there’s a better way to get their attention.

[DC11/16 Archery]
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Rolled 5

>>31892954
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Rolled 5

>>31892954
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Rolled 19

>>31892954
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>>31892964
>>31892967

/tg/ dice is the worst thing ever

>>31892977

Never mind!
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>>31892977
Just got here and great job anon!
>>31892964
>>31892967
You two, however need to get it together.
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>>31892939
What? That we're coming to kill him? He's probably figured that out by now.
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>Higher target met

You steady yourself, focusing heavily on the only task that matters. You line up the bow. You take a breath. You see the target. You see yourself hitting it. As energy swirls within you, building in and around the arrow in your hand, you block out the world around you. All that remains is you, the arrow and the target.

You see the arrow hitting the enemy. The energy flares off in a magnificent burst of energy. The damage will be immense.

Then you loose. The world comes back to your senses and you barely notice Vad trying to say something to you. The nightwalkers, in that magical plate that seems to protect them from the sun, are moving – most likely they spotted you. Not that it matters.

The blast is exactly what you saw in your vision, just with the added special effects of gore and metal flying everywhere. The battle quickly turns into a field hospital, with dozens of dead nightwalkers and the rest either injured or panicking. You see several of them howling as their armour has been damaged and the sun is getting in. Some of their comrades rush over and try to move them into the shade. You guess even vampire’s feel fellowship.

Gnome, Undine and Lynn run up on the other side but hesitate as they see what’s happening. Felix, Mal and Vad do the same on your side.

“Bloody hell, do we help them or kill them?” Mal says.

“What do you think?” Felix says rhetorically, hefting his blade and preparing to move in and finish them off.

Vad looks unworried but Mal looks at you, waiting for your direction. You decide to…

>1. Take no prisoners. Kill all the vampires here.
>2. Leave them. They won’t be trouble.
>3. Try to round them up and take them prisoner.
>4. Custom
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>>31893158
>3. Try to round them up and take them prisoner.
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>>31893127
he means that as far as the daywalkers think, we are with our army.
now they will know we are with an elite team deep in their territory and may respond accordingly

>Blackwater strength is his woman
I wonder if she is some sort of non human, like a fae or a demon or something whose blood empowers him. (or maybe a more traditional blessing without bloodsucking)

>One of the daywalkers is a master of enthrallment and can enthrall via her voice
Splitting up is bad idea, I don't want any of our friends to be enthralled
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>>31893158

No time, gotta go fast. Their morale's broken and they won't be an effective fighting force. We should move onto to the mansion already

>2
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>>31893158
>1
Thralls can be healed. Nightwalkers can not
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>>31893158
Round them up. Perhaps once we have both sides of the equation, they'll be useful in figuring out the Thrall problem.
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>>31893158
1
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>>31893158

>2
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>>31893214
I am sure there are more nightwalkers about the city that can do that. in fact we already have some nightwalker prisoners from last thread, some of them surrendered and were taken captive by our men
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>>31893203
>>31893214

We can capture other nightwalkers later, taking prisoners is going to take longer than moving on or just killing them all.

Speed is important here, we want to get to the mansion before Blackwater burns down the mansion or ambushes us
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>>31893208
if we leave them be, they will mostly recover in the shade
also, while many were harmed, a good number were not and could still do tremendous damage to our troop in their HMK
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Rolled 4

>>31893158
>>1.
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>>31893158
>1
No recovering for you
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Now that we blew our cover, I am tempted to go after blackwater.

Also, I would like to point out that my number 1 goal is killing the daywalker with the voice enthrallment so we can avoid having anyone important enthralled mid battle. Then finish off the other 2 and put all 3's heads on pikes to break the enemy morale
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>>31893158
>1
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>>31893158
We don't have time to take them prisoner, might as well be kind and make it quick.
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>>31893407
Yeah but the problem is, I bet the enemy are gonna use the voice enthraller as a harpy, and keep her up out of harms way, and protect her while she sings songs n' shit to us while the others attack and protect her.

Not gonna be easy.
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>>31893481
If they are smart, they probably would, yes.
Just saying that we should prioritize her.
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>1.

You draw your sword and move in with Felix. Vad catches up in an instant as Mal fires off a sending to the girls to let them know. The butchery itself is quick and simple. Very few of the vampiric knights fought back, many trying to flee or just having given up. Afterwards you sheathe your sword and quickly gather everyone together to try to make up for lost time.

“Was that really necessary?” Undine asks as you jog towards the mansion.

“I wasn’t going to risk them regenerating and surprising us or my men while we’re busy,” you say. “This is war. Acts that would otherwise be atrocities are commonplace, Undine.”

She falls silent and the trip to Irris’ mansion is both short and quiet.

The mansion itself is run-down. The gates are blown straight off their hinges, and many sections of fence have been similarly damaged. Windows, doors and walls have been damaged or destroyed. You don’t know if a battle took place here or if this is just the result of simple looting. Perhaps both, given that many of Irris’ servants would have been in the mansion when the other vampires announced she was dead, if Dorman was right. You can’t sense much, as there’s a lot of ambient magic floating about, but Vad’s tails twitch a bit.

“There’s a bunch of thralls coming our way, boss,” he says. “Might be something else but I can’t get a read on it.”

You frown. That something else may be important. You direct the others to prepare for a possible attack while you focus your senses.

[DC18 Detection]
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>>31893158
>2. Leave them. They won’t be trouble.
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>>31893522
I suggest astral arrows to take care of her.

We're getting damn good at doing it.
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Rolled 19

>>31893548
ASTRAL DICE GO!!
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Rolled 6

>>31893548
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Rolled 13

>>31893548
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>>31893562

Dice Gods have been kind thus far
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>>31893562
Whoa...uh...
T-thanks for the roll, Talon...
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>>31893591
praise be their name
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>>31893548
>Bunch of thralls
oooh, maybe this is their siren

>>31893557
Good suggestion. kill her at range, kill her hard, kill her fast.
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>>31893630
Yeah, I'm in agreement with this sentiment. That detect will help us see her coming. don't let her get a word in edge-wise on any of us.
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>Target met

“Two daywalkers trying to escape out the back,” you say. “Undine and I will head them off. I trust the rest of you can handle a bunch of thralls?”

Gnome gives you a strong nod in reply and you duck off with Undine in tow. If you move quickly you can catch the daywalkers as they make their escape. You hear some rumbling and screams from behind you – it seems odd that the thralls would attack like that rather than surrender, but they may be under orders. Vad seemed certain they were thralls, but that was definitely too large number of them in one place.

You thrust the thoughts out of your head as two men dressed in fine black clothes jump out a window in front of you. You draw your sword in a flash, running the blade against the metal on the sheathe to make your presence clear. They spin towards you, snarling, before freezing.

One of them, wide-eyed and going pale, stutters out, “You’re Imperator Talon, aren’t you?”

“Sure am,” you say, your voice coming out deep and artificial from the voice projection in your helmet.

“Any chance we can make a deal?” asks the other, licking his lips nervously. “We tell you everything we know, you let us flee the city?”

“That would depend on what you know,” Undine says, several of her icicles tinkling in the air beside her.

“Our master. And everything we’ve found out about Lady Irris,” he replies hurriedly, eyeing your Champion nervously.

>Your response? Indicate if you intend on double-crossing them in your response.
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It just occured to me, we should secure their magitech foundry before they destroy it to deny us
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>>31893746

(1) Only if they tell you something useful
(2) After getting the information, demand that they surrender and that they won't be harmed and will be allowed to go after the conflict is over
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>>31893791
I'll second this with the stipulation that upon their release, they be expelled from our lands.
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>>31893791
this
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>>31893746
"Speak now then, and hurry. I have wasted enough time with vampires and their tricks. If you waste more, than I will be certain you never do again."

>Get info
>Proceed to pummel them into bloody pulps.

Sorry man, but free vampires in my kingdom are a big no.
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>>31893791

Addition to the idea:

This is really just to postpone the decision until later and perhaps use the Daywalkers to help cure the thralls or dispose of them when shit's not going down.

This should only happen after we get the information. If they refuse to talk without getting guarantee of safe passage, promise then later mention that they'll get safe passage after the battle is over
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>>31893746
First order your thralls to stand down, I don't want to needlessly slaughter them. Then start talking.
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>>31893849
that is a possibility. they are young, underpowered, and suitably cowed

we could use them (in secret) and their thralls in our thrall cure research. they could feed exclusively on those existing thralls with orders to never enthrall another person.
When/if we cure thralldom we then we could decide whether we let them escape, kill them, or what.

Although honestly I am leaning towards executing them after we get anything useful out of them because they are the protege of one of the ruling vampires (their master) of taour and we know for a fact they enthralled a LOT of people (mindrape is a crime) and ordered them to make a suicide charge to give them an opening to escape (murder)
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There is zero reason to let two Day walkers free. At all.
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>>31893837

Acting dishonorably in front of Undine again in such a short period of time seems like a bad idea.

If we must, provoke them into attacking by demanding that they surrender and promising safe passage.

Best case scenario: They surrender and we can dispose of them later

Worst case scenario: They attack and we kill them without pissing off Undine
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>>31893895
night walker thralls are zombies anon, unless we are talking to day walkers that is.
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>>31893791
Clarification: How do you want to try to take the prisoner? Are you going to take them with you, try to restrain them here or send them back to your men with somebody (or just on an honour system)?

I'll probably call a vote after this as to whether to kill them or take them prisoner as that will probably be contentious. The ideas for how to take them prisoner may impact this vote.
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>>31893939
You really think black water is behind this?
I think its the chick that can thrall any one with her voice, and the other whimp day walker.
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>>31893956

>“Two daywalkers trying to escape out the back,” you say
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So we're agreed then
>Get info
>Attempt to 'guarantee safe passage'
>Capture them with this promise
>Use to research thralls and vampire secrets
>Release if they cooperate, but expel from lands
>If they don't cooperate, research anyway, if we can get alive
>Kill if they attack us, or try to flee

Yeah?
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>>31893975

Honor system and promise to personally hunt them down if they don't honor that promise

Sending anyone back to the men would put that person in danger and weaken our strike force. Restraining them would provoke an attack.
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>>31893956
>unless we are talking to day walkers that is.
we are talking to pair of daywalkers
remember that taour had about a dozen daywalkers. 6 rulers, rest apprentices
we just caught a pair of apprentice daywalkers

>>31893977
>Chick with voice
they are both male daywalkers
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>>31894022
I was talking about how one of the rulers is a female daywalker that thralls people with her voice.
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>>31894009
I am actually not sure about anything of the "capture" variety.
How do we capture them? we need out full strength to fight blackwater and they could backstab us when we encounter him because they are emboldened by the odds.
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>>31894045

My recommendation is this >>31893791 and >>31894014

Worst case scenario: They decide you are bluffing and leave the city after they give you the information

Best case scenario: They surrender without us having to babysit them or worry about being backstabbed
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>>31894045
>How do we capture them
...
Hey, can Undine Cryo freeze em?
Nah probably not. Sounded cool in my head tho.

Can Gnome do earthbender cuffs from Avatar?
Or are Daywalkers strong enough to break those?

Just some ideas.
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>>31894042
What seems more logical

A: Pair of daywalkers have no thralls at all. Ruling daywalker creates a fuckton of thralls, order them to serve 2 apprentice daywalkers, orders them, to make a suicide rush to distract us for the daywalkers to escape

B: pair of daywalker apprentices have a bunch of thralls between the two of them, order their own thralls The ruling daywalker created a bunch of thralls. Ordered their thralls to cover their escape with a suicide rush
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>>31894100
I'm not arguing with you, just correcting what you said about how the voice whimp day walker is a male.
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>>31894014
we could have them hide up in the manor of the dead daywalker lady until we come back for them.
worse case scenario they run away, enthrall some of our commanders, get a bunch of them killed, and escape the city.
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>>31893746
Tell them that we can't let two daywalkers go free into the world, but if they surrender themselves without a fight, and assist our researchers in curing Thralldom, they'll earn brownie points for when we renegotiate their situation.
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>>31894131
>you said about how the voice whimp day walker is a male.
No, I said the two daywalkers we caught are male. so they can't be the daywalker siren, because she is a female
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>>31894100
You do know that out of the ruling Day walkers the one that can make thralls with their own voice would have the most thralls.
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>>31894164
Of course she would. I am just trying to understand why you think these two daywalkers have no thralls of their own, and why the thralls covering their escape must be someone else's thralls instead of their's
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>>31894161
Yes, but i was talking about the army of thralls.
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Here is an idea. we have them hide up in the mansion until after battle. We then do a sending to tsucchi and consult with her. Based on results we can decide if to execute them or what.
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“Better deal,” you say, holding your sword in front of the two menacingly. “You talk, I take you prisoner and decide whether to keep you locked up or let you free later.”

“Uh, then you kill us? That sounds terrible,” one says, gathering some strength in his voice.

“It might help you if you pay attention to what I say – I didn’t say I would kill you,” you growl and they lose their growing confidence again. “Of course, if you refuse my generous offer then I will kill you. You also might want to call off your thralls.”

They eye each other nervously. “Okay deal. ‘Cept we can’t call off the goons because they’re not thralls. They’re just under the effect of our master’s weird powder.”

“Talk,” you growl and they do.

>continued
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>>31894182
told you
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>>31894276
“Err, our master is Lord Farsool. He helped design and build the bloodfarms and this city. He also developed this weird powder that we – uh, daywalkers, I mean – can use to kind of enthral people. It makes them obey our first order – supposedly the stronger daywalkers can make them obey several orders. It only lasts a few hours, too, then they go back to normal.”

Well, that explains the strange behaviour of many thralls. It also raises the question of whether there was a daywalker nearby when you fought at Fort Locke. Not that it matters now.

“Where is your master?” Undine asks forcefully, stealing the initiative from you.

“He fled the city along with Lord Noln when he heard you killed General Volante,” one explains. “Only Lord Blackwater and Lady Terce remain of the rulers. I don’t know where they are. We’re still here because our master wanted us to secure Lady Irris’ safe. We can’t find it but we know the combination.”

They tell you the combination, then insist they don’t know anything more of value despite some more threats made towards them. That leaves you with one final choice.

>1. Kill the pair of them, violating your promise with Undine as the sole witness.
>2. Try to secure them using magic to be picked up later. Given the strange abilities of daywalkers, this may be a bit chancy.
>3. Intimidate the daywalkers into surrendering to your troops voluntarily, or else you’ll personally hunt them down.
>4. Custom

Tsucchi isn't easily contactable right now. She would most likely want them taken alive, given the way researchers tend to be.
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>>31894307
>>3. Intimidate the daywalkers into surrendering to your troops voluntarily, or else you’ll personally hunt them down.

We are the scariest
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>>31894307
>3
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>>31894307
>3. Intimidate the daywalkers into surrendering to your troops voluntarily, or else you’ll personally hunt them down.
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>>31894307
3
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>>31894307
3

We did make a promise, and an empire runs on the Law working correctly. If we break the law, how can we expect the people under us to listen to the bureaucracy?
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>>31894307

>3
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Rolled 13

>>31894307
>3. Intimidate the daywalkers into surrendering to your troops voluntarily, or else you’ll personally hunt them down.

But also we should assure them that if they be good, we will hold up our deal
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>>31894307
>“He fled the city along with Lord Noln when he heard you killed General Volante,”
told you guys we should have tried the outer provinces.
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>>31894307
eh, lets try to channel astral energy into our voice as we bind them with an oath.
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>>31894372
how would we have caught them?
told you we should have attacked right away to catch them so they don't escape
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>>31894307
>3
Warn them of our prowess so they realize who the fuck they're dealing with.
We killed your best general in single combat
We've ripped the lord of Shadows straight from his own shadows.
Unless you think yourselves great enough, I would stay here, were I you. For when I hunt down those other Daywalkers, I will be coming for you as well.
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>>31894307
>Master fled to countryside
>Don't know where he is
>We’re still here because our master wanted us to secure Lady Irris’ safe
How were you going to return the vault to him after securing it?

Also, aside from intimidation we can dangle some hope in front of them in the form of
>Vampirism itself isn't a crime
>As apprentices you haven't had a chance to do anything really bad.
>Helping us research a thralldom cure would be a good way to ensure your long term survival.
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>>31894307

Just reminder to all:

>“Noln is a fat vampire famous mostly because he’s still unalive. He runs Taour’s bureaucracy. He’ll likely flee at the first sign of trouble.”

>“Farsool is a madman. He was responsible for Hiien and the bloodfarms there. He was supposedly a mage before becoming a vampire. He may have been responsible for other nasty tricks by Taour.
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>>31894473
>Helping us research a thralldom cure would be a good way to ensure your long term survival.
I can dig this. Maybe we can even find a cure for vampirism in general?

Who knows.

>>31894492
Aw fuck, Farsool was the crazy one that did the bloodfarms?
Well we're definitely gonna need to hunt him down.
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>>31894492
ooh, thanks for the reminder.
And hey, he IS responsible for another nasty trick, namely the powder

actually, I want to know if they are carrying any
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>>31894505
vamperism isn't bad actually just a different being, that just feeds on human blood.
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>>31894505
>I can dig this. Maybe we can even find a cure for vampirism in general?
actually, I am ok with that.

>>31894492
wait, so their master is the crazy evil guy who did the bloodfarms...
what do you want to bet his apprentices are total sociopaths? I don't see him apprenticing some nice goodly people.
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>>31894492
Well, time for our first Imperial Bounty on Noln and Farsool. Farsool is definitely the larger problem, though, since he can whip up a vampire army with only a little preptime.
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>>31894517
>powder
?
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>>31894538
>that just feeds on human blood.
that is really the key problem.
I guess developing a way to feed on animal blood would work too rather then an outright cure.
I would still prefer to unvamp or kill them all because, seriously, vampires. Undead who can convert others, mindrape, and must feed on the blood of sapients
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>>31894563
its from their interrogation. their master invented a powder that allows rapid enthrallment

>>31894574
and live forever, and can grow crazy powerful like general volante.
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>>31894574
They can't feed on animal blood, we either have to make an alternative or run them out of our territory.
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>>31894599
Oh you mean the temporary enthrallment power.
>>31894574
>blood of sapients
Eh this is a loose term since we are in a magical setting, but yeah i agree their image is horrible.
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>>31894307
>It only lasts a few hours, too, then they go back to normal.
Have undine let the others know to just knock out the thralls and keep them alive, since they are under a "temporary enthrallment powder that will wear off in a few hours".
I bet tsucchi would want to any samples of the powder these guys have still remaining on them, as well as their knowledge of it, as well as getting a hold of some of these temp thralls before they revert to observe the reversion
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>>31894553

It was mentioned that this isn't likely the last time we'll be dealing with a vampires. Looks like there's our plot hook.

I'm not surprised but vendetta Daywalker army does not doing fun.
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>>31894574

I don't see why we can't just have volunteers give some of their blood for pay.

Having powerful vampires as a potential weapon would surely be worth a Blood4Gold scheme
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>>31894605
Only ways to deal with vampires right now are to kill them. If they want to cooperate, then we might be able to find a way to cure them, or force them out of our territory (Though, that just means they'll start causing chaos for the ML or the RSK)

Personally I'd rather kill them, unless research is an option.
Also pissed Farsool got away.
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>>31894605
>They can't feed on animal blood,
I know, I implied as much when I said it is more practical to develop a way for them to feed on animal blood than a way to transform them back into humans.
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>>31894652
>Though, that just means they'll start causing chaos for the ML or the RSK)
Thats bad for us why?
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>>31894648
It's really really not.
Vampires impact morale horribly, not to mention public order, when one of our main claims to fame was to stomp out the vampire menace.
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>>31894646
Not really a plot hook, more like they become allies of future enemies.
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>>31894678
>>31894652
If anything, we should expel any Vampires that won't cooperate with us in the direction of the RSK, since the ML is somewhat on our side at the moment. they probably wouldn't like a sudden plague of vampires coming at their capital from our lands.
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>>31894690

That boat already sailed when we offered Aladria her castle

We don't have to advertise it, we can keep it discrete and eliminate it if it becomes a political liability.
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>>31894690
>Vampires impact morale horribly, not to mention public order
I agree with you, but where did you hear this exactly?
I would like to hear it from the word of god himself.
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>>31894678

Both are well aware we're at war with Taour and running a "crush the vampire menace" campaign. It'll look like sloppy work on our end. Especially to the ML who are ready to cut a deal with us post Taour and RSK general chomping at the bit to be let off his leash to fight us.
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>>31894709
ML is just as bad as the RSK.
If you check out the pastebins on them.
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>3.

“How were you going to return the contents of the safe to your master?” you ask.

“We can contact him by sending but we don’t know where he is. He would have used a drop of some sort if we escaped,” one explains.

“Now, the two of you are going to walk on down to where my troops are conquering the city,” you explain in a level voice. “You’re not going to cause any trouble. You’re going to give your powder to me instead of trying to use it and getting turned into cinders by a great fire elemental who is immune to it. You’re going to surrender and be good little prisoners.

“Because if you don’t, I will personally find you and show you the depths of my rage. I felled two of the greatest daywalkers alive and I was very calm when I did so,” you continue, voice still level. “When I find your master and that fat bastard Noln, I will not be calm and they will regret ever being so foolish as to waste my time by running. Do you want to be one of those fools I need to track down? Do you want to find out how terrible my wrath will be if you break your word?”

The two shake their heads and you finish, “Then do as I say.”

With shaking hands, the two hand over a couple of small pouches that feel like they’re full of powder. You're careful with them, even though they should have no effect as you’re not a daywalker. Then you send the two on their way while Undine uses a sending to warn your officers. In the mean-time you receive some feedback on how things are going as you head into Irris’ mansion.

[DC11/16 Take the Second Layer]

[DC12/19 Flushing out the underground]

Please roll 2d20 each.
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>>31894720
It's not so much that we offered Aladria her castle as it's the fact that we're not strong enough to force her out of it. She'll definitely be a thorn in our side in the future.
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>>31894640
>Eh this is a loose term since we are in a magical setting
we actually asked, they can't feed on dumb animals.
Although there MIGHT be some magical beast somewhere whose blood can feed vampires who isn't sapient

>>31894648
1. Hiien, we got 30 thousand people telling stories of the horrrors of vampire rule
2. Darlesia - just got sacked by vamps
3. Vitria - nobles hate us, we claimed our right to rule comes from stoping the vampire menace
4. Magi - loathe the vamps, too busy to kill them, but wants them dead
5. Tsucchi - dedicated to vamp slaying
6. Several members of our cabinet - want all vamps slain
7. Rebellion brought low darlesia, brought low RSK, is going to bring low the magi league. we can't afford to lose the support of the people and have a bunch of rebellions going on.
8. We are denying the magi league's inquisitors who want to "investigate" our mage towers based on the hiien atrocities.

Any gain from vampire soldiers is massively offset by the loss of popular support and the tons of shit we face.
Also, vampires are really not all that impressive.
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>>31894720
>Keep vampires in our army a secret
How?
It's gonna seem kinda weird when Jeffery keeps asking to stop after a big fight to 'hug' all the enemy bodies that are still alive.

And no, I don't think bloodbanks will work because that's kinda suspicious as hell.

>>31894722
I inferred it, because it makes logical sense.

I mean, does Aspir really need to tell us "Vampires scary yo"?
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Rolled 13, 6 = 19

>>31894754
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Rolled 16, 19 = 35

>>31894754
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Rolled 5, 7 = 12

>>31894754
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>>31894780

Based Dice Gods
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>>31894780
Fuck yeah
>>31894767
>Tsucchi - dedicated to vamp slaying
I thought she just researched them?
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>>31894720
>That boat already sailed when we offered Aladria her castle
we did no such thing
we told her messenger to threats, he replied with "she is super powerful and laughs at threads from the other daywalkers" and then we decided to not deal with her until after the war.
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>>31894780
Based anon bringing the heat.
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>>31894754
>Talon being this boss
God damn Talon, you're cool.
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>>31894780

You're a good person anon.
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>>31894767
>>31894772

Those are good points, I'd rather table the issue until we find out whether there's a really safe way to keep them out of public eyes.

If not, then I agree that vamps are not worth it
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Rolled 9, 16 = 25

>>31894754
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Anyone else notice we didn't need to roll to keep the Daywalkers in line?

I think our terror level went up
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>>31894861
I still think keeping the lady in her small plot of land is ok, since no one knows she is a vampire except her few servants, and it seems she gets her source of blood from some one else.
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>>31894873
No, they gave up the second they found out who we were.
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>>31894885
The more I think about it, the more I want to know what the hell her deal is.
Like, not even hostile like, I just wanna go see her and see why she's apparently so badass that all the other Daywalkers are afraid of her.

I smell Ancient Vampire there. Possibly mother of them all.
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>>31894914

It was explicitly mentioned that going to see her at her castle would be a terrible idea

Unless we can come up with some countermeasures, we have no business being
anywhere near her
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>>31894767
>7. Rebellion brought low darlesia, brought low RSK, is going to bring low the magi league. we can't afford to lose the support of the people and have a bunch of rebellions going on.
To elaborate on this
The magi league was formed by a rebellion against the RSK and is now equal to it in side (it has been some decades though).
RSK is about to lose 2/7th of their current territory any day now to their ex archmage that is rebelling now but is NOT part of the magi league and forming his own domain. Vitria used to be part of darlesia, but it rebelled some years ago and became independent nation (general pharas was instrumental in that). Taour used to be a part of darlesia too before it became independent and then later on vampire infested...
Yea, rebellions are a total fucking bitch and a half
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>>31894961
>It was explicitly mentioned that going to see her at her castle would be a terrible idea
No it was said busting inside her castle, we can still visit, with our hero characters.
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>>31894780
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>>31894961
all we were told is that touching her door handle disintegrates people. probably warded up the wazoo, i bet if we surround it with our army we can have a hundred or so mages form a big old ritual circle around it and crush its defenses.
... or astral arrow the door.
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>>31894914
Hah. That's how we get into her castle. We show up with a shit-ton of people, she sends out a servant to find out what our deal is, and she's prepared to tear us to shreds.

Our response? "i'm not even angry; i'm impressed. Ma'am, I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter."
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>>31894991

If busting inside her castle will get us fried, what's stopping her form taking us out with those very same traps when we are "invited in"?

Her goodwill? We know nothing about her, it's a dangerous move until we find out more about who she is and her motivations
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>>31895008
alternatively.... wait 6 months for her stored blood bank supplies from the farm dries up, then surround her castle and catch her when she goes out to feed.
she could feed on her followers, but they would starve soon enough without regular supplies from village.
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>>31895008
or not tip off the populace of what she could be,plus i feel like sending an army instead of our hero characters is a waste.
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>>31895035
that is another option. she can have her village, for now. we will deal with her someday.
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>>31895031
>alternatively.... wait 6 months for her stored blood bank supplies from the farm dries up,
Its not from the farm, though.
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>>31895055
IIRC we were informed that she recently received a 6 months blood supply from the blood farm right before we sacked it
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>>31895089
>from the blood farm
We didn't know the source, actually we guessed it could be from the farm.
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>Take the Second Layer: Higher Target Success; 13, 16, 5
>Flushing out the underground: Higher Target Success; 6, 19, 7

As you trudge into Lady Irris’ ruined mansion and meet up with the others, Undine rattles off a report as to what’s happening underground. The flanking attack was successful and your heavies and noble knights managed to keep many of the foe from retreating into the underground. Most of the Taourans fled, or tried to flee, instead of fighting. Lots of prisoners, though Parras reports he’s fighting something of a running battle as the remainder pull back into the upper reaches of the city.

Salamander, on the other hand, hasn’t had much to do. The people in the tunnels had given you information on where to look so your troops have been slowly flushing out the Taouran soldiers out. Aside from an underground guard station of some sort, which Sala apparently turned into an elaborate pile of ash, most of the enemies have simply surrendered when uncovered. The operation is still ongoing and will be for days but this is a good start, you think.

Afterwards, you explain your discovery to the others.

Felix clicks his tongue. “I don’t mind slaughtering foolish soldiers, but men who have no choice but to fight? Such a waste of my effort and their lives.”

“So does that mean we’ve been killing people who would have otherwise surrendered?” Lynn asks, looking surprised.

You shrug. “Most of the soldiers who we’ve fought to the death have still been soldiers. Everybody has mothers and fathers, or sons and daughters. That’s just war. That the vampires force them to fight to the death is just a step further than most other nations can actually take. I’d bet most would take it if they had the choice, though.”

Things fall silent as you step into Irris’ ruined study. The wallpaper and all furniture has been destroyed or ransacked. Aside from one wall-to-ceiling painting.

>continued
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>>31895305
“Didn’t you say there was a painting here, Talon?” Mal asks, looking around. “Because it was probably stolen.”

You look at him weirdly, before stepping up and pulling the painting open. Behind it sits a safe. You deftly enter the combination, having done this a few times before, and open it up. Removing the contents, a small pouch of jewels and a memory crystal, you turn back to the others. They all stare at you in shock.

“It was just there,” you say. “Not my fault you’re all bloody blind.”

“You just made a goddamn painting and safe appear out of thin air, Talon,” Vad says. “That’s impressive, even for you.”

You flick the crystal over to Mal, who recovers from his shock enough to catch it. He focuses a bit of sorcery into it and some pictures flicker up, lighting up the dim room, your helmet automatically adjusting to the new light level to keep your vision clear.

“Pictures. And a tiny bit of text that says Lady Marianne,” Mal says as you look at some pictures of an elegant-looking woman in front of a mansion or some furniture, depending on the picture. “Architecture looks Farlounian. These are old pictures, Talon.”

You frown, putting the pieces together. “That they are. Or maybe they’re not – it’s not like somebody can’t build a place that looks like something from old Farloun, right?”

Mal nods, looking confused. You explain Blackwater’s missing lady and things become clear. This Lady Marianne is, combining Tsucchi’s and Dalrec’s knowledge, the secret behind Blackwater’s immortality. Except your only clue is that she is either from Farloun or resides in a building that looks like one. If this is all Lady Irris could dig up, you doubt you’ll find much more unless Blackwater is stupid enough to keep her in his mansion.

Mal pockets the crystal as you head out.

>1. Head to Blackwater’s mansion.
>2. Head to the government buildings.
>3. Head back to your troops
>4. Other place
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>>31895329

>1 Head to Blackwater's mansion

Tough choice, but I do think we need to keep the initiative.

Would be open to being persuaded otherwise
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>>31895329
>2. Head to the government buildings.
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>>31895329
>1. Head to Blackwater’s mansion.

May as well check it out. Who knows? Maybe someone was stupid or we're just that lucky.
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>>31895329
>1. Head to Blackwater’s mansion.
if she is really the secret to his immortality, she is either in his mansion, or with him.
Only way I can think of for her to be a source of power for a vamp is if she has super blood, like if she is a demon or dragon or angel or fae or some such...
OR, he made some elaborate ritual to make her his phylactery like a lich and respawns near her. Regardless, we need to find her and take her captive, then kill him.
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>>31895329
>1. Head to Blackwater’s mansion.
Never assume some one isn't too stupid to do something.
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>>31895329
I think we should check the Gov buildings. There might be clues to this Farloun woman there in Census stuff.
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>>31895329
I can't think of what Blackwater would keep at his mansion...
>2
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>>31895329
>1. Head to Blackwater’s mansion.
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>>31895428
>Blackwater is using her to become a Lich
Aw shit, I could totally see that being a thing.
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So I'm still a bit lost. We know that lady Marianne is the key to blackwaters immortality right? Do we need to kill her or does she just hold some secret? Either way there isn't any need to check on the troops.
>2. Head to the government buildings.
I think.
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>>31895472
We have no idea, anon.
We're just sorta praying the secret is in the city so we can actually kill Blackwater.
If she's not, we're not gonna be able to beat him. Or we will, and he'll respawn later, twice as strong or some shit.
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>>31895428
>Phylactery

DINGDINGDINGDINGDING. Someone get this man a cookie, he just solved the puzzle! Blackwater's trying to be a Vampire Lich.

>JESUSCHRISTHOWHORRIFYING.webm

We can kill him here, but he's going to respawn somewhere else. I bet that respawn point is where Noln and Farsool are headed, so that they can all restart Taour. This building probably isn't even in the Darlesia region. We need to hunt it down immediately. That Inquisition idea from before sounds like a good solution to finding this place.
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>>31895329
>2. Head to the government buildings.

He most likely already knows that we're here, so we've already lost the initiative; therefore we might as well search the govt sector for this building.
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>>31895329
>>1. Head to Blackwater’s mansion.
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>>31895472
>Do we need to kill her or does she just hold some secret?
we don't know, it is his most closely guarded secret
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>>31895550
>I bet that respawn point is where Noln and Farsool are headed
those two vamps we captured can send them a sending saying they managed to escape and loot the vault, that it contained some gems and memory crystal. then set up a meeting. only we show up instead of them :)
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Blackwater should be able to at least be critically injured putting re-spawning aside for a moment. Otherwise he would have been on the front lines when we attacked the city.
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>1.

The trip to Blackwater’s mansion is short, aside from scaring a hundred or so Taouran soldiers who had retreated to the plaza as you passed through. You’d just charged through, ignoring them, and they’d started running away. Parras can take care of them, particularly as you didn’t sense any vampires with them.

When you arrive at the mansion, it’s in almost pristine condition. An elegant and modern mansion, built in very similar style to many of the newer buildings in Ahm, it exudes wealth and power. You stand at the precipice of entering it, knowing that there may be a fearsome battle awaiting you within. You signal to everybody to be prepared, and draw your own weapons. You step forward and the front door swings open. You tense, ready for an assault.

>continued
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>>31895710
“Good afternoon, Imperator,” says the smartly dressed butler at the front door. “I bid you welcome to this mansion, though sadly my master is currently absent. If you wish, I can still supply with some afternoon tea. It wouldn’t do to leave such an important guest unattended.”

You almost stumble in surprise but catch yourself.

“Where is your master?” you ask cautiously, looking around for traps.

“He is awaiting you at Council Peak – it’s the circle of stones that sits atop the city. The councillors usually hold their meetings there,” he explains. “A fitting place for two rulers to meet. My name is Horace, by the way. I am Lord Blackwater’s butler. Do you wish to come in? I do not mind what you do, but I would prefer if you didn’t do too much damage to the mansion while doing whatever it is you wish. It will be a pain for the servants to have to fix any damage you do.”

You stare at him, and at the others. Vad nods, indicating he is a thrall, but seems as confused as you are as to what to do. The black-tailed fox indicates that he can’t find anybody else inside the large mansion from his scans.

>1. Step inside and talk with the butler more while your companions search the mansion.
>2. Step inside and search the mansion while one of your companions talks to the butler.
>3. Assume the mansion is a trap and enter with as much force as possible.
>4. Leave the mansion.
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>>31895550
>He has a lich like respawn point outside the city
Not a problem
if we don't kill him, he can't escape, we just break his power. then imprison him within solid stone (gnome), leaving only his head exposed (and having seperate covers fro his ears and eyes that we can take off at will. his mouth is exposed so he can be force fed (to avoid death by starvation and respawn). we get our mages to set up a magic suppressing circle to put him in to avoid him using magic to escape. If we capture his lady, she is accomodated in a gilded cage nearby and their connection is studied until it can be severed, at which point he is executed.
He is now trapped, but alive. Immortality has now become a curse to him.

that assumes she isn't a daywalker too, in which case we execute her first (because she was part of taour's horrible vamp atrocity filled land)
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>>31895703
>e able to at least be critically injured
when did he get hurt?
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>>31895731
>1b. Step inside and talk with the butler more while your companions search the mansion.
>But personally participate in the search while talking to him
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>>31895731
>1. Step inside and talk with the butler more while your companions search the mansion.
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>>31895776
He didn't, anon is saying that if his power made it impossible for him to take injury he would have been fighting us on the front lines. Falling against us only to respawn and come back again and again
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>>31895776
No idea, I'm just saying his absence from any of the fighting seems to imply he isn't immune to damage.
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>>31895731

Hybrid of 1 and 2

Walk and Talk like they do in West Wing
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>>31895731
is he a thrall?
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>>31895731
>2
May as well check it out. I am suspecting Blackwater is less a 'traps traps traps' sorta guy and more a 'hide behind lots of minions' guy.
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>>31895844

It literally says in that post that he's a thrall
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>>31895861
oh, so it does.
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>>31895731
Just in case you're wondering Aspirational, the small number of votes are probably coming from our uncertainty over blackwater.
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>>31895731

I'm personally having connection issues to 4chan, and I'm one of the chattier people in these threads. I doubt that many others are having that kind of issue, though.
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>>31895933
>>31896041

I voted but I don't have a whole lot to discuss right now since there's little information to go on
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>1 & 2

You decide that things can’t be that threatening and take up the butler’s invitation. The cynical side of you expects the mansion to suddenly explode the second you step inside it but it remains standing and whole once you do so. You look around the entrance hall, taking in the sheer… expense of everything here. You could probably feed half the city with the four vases lining the hall. Shaking your head, you get everybody to break up into teams: you, Mal, Gnome and the butler; Lynn and Felix; Undine and Vad.

Of course, taking the butler with you to talk means he inevitably drags you past the kitchen, though you take the opportunity to check the kitchen for anything out of the ordinary. Given the food retrieved appears unpoisoned, you help yourself to it the soft cheese and blueberry muffins offered as you search and talk with the butler.

“Why exactly are you the only person inside the mansion, Horace?” you ask as you check a particular length of wall for a fake door.

>continued
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>>31896228
“Lord Blackwater asked all servants to vacate the premises, having anticipated your arrival but I insisted on staying,” he explains. “It wouldn’t do to have nobody present to greet such an important guest, after all.”

“Why is your master waiting for me at the top of the city?’ you ask.

“A result of his artistic bent, I suppose? I honestly do not know. Lord Blackwater is a difficult man to read,” Horace says. “Wise but confusing.”

“Is there anything in particular you want to tell me, Horace?” you ask in the end, having received no major information despite your insistent questioning.

“Nothing other than my wish that the courtesy you’ve extended to a thrall such as myself is extended to many of the other thralls in this city,” he says, voice dropping slightly. “I see the writing on the wall, as does my lord. All that I can hope for is that you do not succumb to the wishes of the masses in their lust for righteousness.”

You frown at the cryptic words, but Horace won’t say much more. You instead dedicate yourself to searching for something that Blackwater may have hidden.

[DC18 Search]
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Rolled 12

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Rolled 4

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>>31896249
Forgot to update the DC. Should be 16.
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Rolled 3

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Rolled 10

>>31896249
pls
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Rolled 11

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Rolled 13

>>31896254
>>31896269
>>31896286
>>31896288
>>31896294

All good things must come to an end
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>>31896276
>Forgot to update the DC. Should be 12.
Fixed that for ya.
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Rolled 3

>>31896249
>you do not succumb to the wishes of the masses in their lust for righteousness
Huh i have a feeling that the people of the city who aren't thralls hate thralls as much as vampires.
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>>31896254
>>31896269
>>31896286
eg, can't win them all. When blackwater is dead I am sure our men can CAREFULLY disassemble this mansion brick by brick. Works of art and the like can be sold to help finance the reconstruction. Any hidden treasure would be found then (if any exists)

Lets go meet up with blackwater then.
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>>31896254
>>31896269
>>31896286
Too bad, mighta got some sweet loot or hints.
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>>31896341
I was bettin' loot.
Aw well.
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>>31896333
Unless it's something magical.
Or something that would only be able to help us in the fight and is worthless otherwise.
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>>31896318
He would probably lowered the DC if we guessed the right location.
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>>31896249
>I see the writing on the wall, as does my lord.
>as does my lord.

Fucker's going to surrender, isn't he?
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>>31896249
>my wish that the courtesy you’ve extended to a thrall such as myself is extended to many of the other thralls in this city
We could tell him we intend to protect, and cure the thralls. It might prompt him to reveal something
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>>31896381
hence the "if it exists". there is a good chance that all we would have found is some knowledge only useful in the short term
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>>31896438
Better then nothing, the way things are going we are just going to stand around exchanging pleasantries till our allies are done wasting their time. Lets go with this.
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>Target not met

Unfortunately, for all your searching you fail to find much of value. Actually, you find a lot of value, plenty of expensive pieces of art and furniture decorate the mansion. Unfortunately, it’s not really what you’re looking for. You thought you may have found a fake wall somewhere, but sadly it was just hiding part of the plumbing. Gnome put the wall back together afterwards to assuage Horace’s sadness. The others found nothing either.

You do get one clue, however, when Mal shows Horace the pictures of Lady Marianne.

“Ah, yes, her,” Horace says, rubbing his chin. “She passed through the mansion ten years ago, shortly after I was promoted to chief butler. I’ve never seen Lord Blackwater show such emotion towards somebody either before or after. My understanding is that she resides somewhere to the north, near Shropham. Lord Blackwater goes on a long trip each year up there, so I don’t know what else he might be doing for such a length of time – though he might not remain in Shropham the entire time.”

Which means she’s not in Taour – or if she is then nobody knows where. Short of a miracle, you think you’ll just need to brave Blackwater as is. You sincerely doubt he has anything close to true immortality – fear does funny things to the powerful, for they fear their downfall even more so than those without power. Perhaps his reputation has merely kept the other sat bay.

Or maybe you should just stop being delusional, you think. This will be a hard fight no matter what.

>1. Go to meet Blackwater
>2. Do something else
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>>31896566
>2. Do something else
Gov buildings.
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>>31896566
>1
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>>31896566
>1. Go to meet Blackwater
Brave the waters
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>>31896566
>Which means she’s not in Taour
or that he lied and she is in a secret room under the mansion.
ah well. for later
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>>31896566
1

but with a twist. We should find some place where we can get the high ground and spy on the meeting spot from afar.
Reason being is that he is there with the thrallherd if I am not mistaken. if so, I want to snipe her with astral arrows before we go speak to him in person
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>1. Go to meet Blackwater
Has anyone with a name ever outright said he was immortal?
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>>31896673
IIRC
>tsucchi said that rumors are that he is.
>Volante said we don't need to find out his secret, we can just brute force him
>that letter via messenger from the vampiress whom he killed that used to be on the council
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>>31896669
Blackwater is on the highest spot in the city. You lack anybody with the ability to fly (except Lynn, but she would reveal her nature to Felix and Vad).
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>>31896566
>2. Do something else

Super astral focus searc?
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>>31896736
>that letter via messenger from the vampiress whom he killed that used to be on the council
Right, that was what I was trying to think of.
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>>31896758
that requires we roll a nat20, or burn an FR point (no way, no how!)
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>>31896736
>>31896778
IIRC that letter was also "rumors". nobody has ever gotten confirmation, only rumors.
I think we are being overly paranoid and just want to get it over with.
I would be ok with maybe taking him alive rather then outright execution in case he has lich like ability and a phylactery somewhere.
I am honestly more concerned about lady terce. I am betting their plan is to draw us to the circle and try to enthrall us. Which makes me leery about bringing felix with us in there.
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>>31896873
?
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>>31896873
The letter in full
“Irris,

I implore you to cease working against Perin. Not only do we not know his weakness, though he certainly has one, he is a master of gathering information. He surely knows what you are up to and if you continue down this path you will regret it.

Should you wish to continue then I tell you this: Perin’s weakness is his lady. Or so I believe. I do not believe he has sired any children, unlike myself with my beloved Aladria, but there is a lady of some form that is the key to his seeming immortality. It could be metaphorical. Or perhaps he has some woman locked up in a tower in the middle of Pharos.

Once again, I implore you as a friend to stop. I’ll return in a fortnight once I’ve thralled this Seraph general. We can speak more then.

Your friend,

[Illegible signature]”

And what fluffy tails had to say:

“Perin Blackwater,” you say loudly and she freeze. “Supposedly he’s immortal. What do you know?”

She frowns and then picks out several notes, hiding a smile poorly. “He sired a vampire less than fifty years ago – one Lady Marianne. That woman does not appear in any records or notes on Blackwater. I think she’s important as no other vampire can say this.”

You explain the letter you received and she nods along. “Most likely ‘his lady’ and Lady Marianne are the same person. He must keep her close if she’s truly a weakness. If not in the city then nearby.”
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>>31896873
lots of good observations all around
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>>31896941
Maybe his powers come from friendship and love?
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>>31897000
>Maybe his powers come from friendship and love?
like all vampires, that is why they get their power from hickies
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>>31897026
... I kinda want to run a game where Vampires are still godless bloodsuckers, but they get power from all the traditionally heroic emotions. It has a horrifically high chance of turning into twilight-level bullshit, but it could be really fun if done well.
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>>31896744
we could go pick up sala for this
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>1.

It is late afternoon by the time by the time you reach the summit of the city. The Council Peak was a ring of stone columns on a suspended platform and the rest of the city lay on the hundreds of metres below you. The sun is shaded by clouds currently, but when it emerges you have no doubt this would make a truly beautiful spot to watch it fall below the horizon to the west.

The sound of your plated boots echoes around the circle of stones. A figure, dressed in white and with golden blonde hair, rises from where he was squatting at the other end of the circle. As the man rises to face you, he drops the almost lifeless body of a beautiful woman. You gives you a grin, barely noticeable at the distance you are from him. Your allies fan out behind you as you stop opposite him. Your senses are clear here, though you didn’t really need him. Both people up here, if you can consider them people, are daywalkers.

And it looks like Perin Blackwater just killed the other one by draining her dry.

“I hadn’t expected you to arrive so soon, Imperator,” shouts Blackwater, resplendent in his white suit as he leans lightly on his ruby-tipped cane. “I took precautions to remain up here to preserve the stage I desired this to end on, but had hoped you wouldn’t arrive until I had dealt with Lady Terce. My sense of decorum had guided me in setting this up and she wanted to ruin it. Has ruined it, sadly. Such a shame.”

You remain silent, summoning your power slowly as you match gazes with Blackwater through your helmet. Your armour hums lightly with the power within it and you feel similar slow burns in your companions.

Blackwater tilts his head, looking unsurprised by your lack of response. “If you won’t respond with words, perhaps you want to respond with action?”

You…

>1. Charge him. Try to take him like you did Volante.
>2. Shoot him with an astral arrow if he’s happy to leave himself so open and passive.
>3. Do nothing
>4. Custom
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>>31897194
>2. Shoot him with an astral arrow if he’s happy to leave himself so open and passive.
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>>31897194
>2. Shoot him with an astral arrow if he’s happy to leave himself so open and passive.
I wonder if she would already be sucked dry if we had come straight here .
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>>31897194
>2. Shoot him with an astral arrow if he’s happy to leave himself so open and passive.
DC 16 here we go.
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>>31897194
>2. Shoot him with an astral arrow if he’s happy to leave himself so open and passive.
Aim for the heart
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>>31897194
>Motherfucker has a ruby cane
Oh god I am gonna love this fight.

>2
Testing the waters. With Volante we knew, sorta, what to expect. With him, we have no clue.
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>>31897194
>4. Ask him why he killed his ally.
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>>31897194
>Shoot him with an astral arrow if he’s happy to leave himself so open and passive.
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>>31897194
>2. Shoot him with an astral arrow if he’s happy to leave himself so open and passive.

I notice the 'almost lifeless' there. I think that if Terce wanted to fuck up this thing for Blackwater, she's worth at least an attempt to save her for interrogation.
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>>31897288
He just said because the bitch wanted to ruin his epic fight.
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>>31897313
So he helped us out?
I assume she wanted to just thrall us and be done with it.
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>>31897313
I thought at first there was some thing about the ability to steal the power of another vampire by drinking them dry.
but as you said, he already gave us an answer. We just don't know if it was the truth or not.
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>>31897338
The more powerful a person is, the harder it is to enthrall him.
It would have been a desperation move on her part.

>>31897342
it could also be to ensure she doesn't blurt out his secret of respawning via phylactery (assuming that this is real and not just nonsense we dreamed up in our paranoia)
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>>31897194
I am tempted to actually talk to him a bit, get more info.
We did learn he is an artist.
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>2.

You calmly sheathe your sword and put away your shield. You then unsling your bow and ready and nock an arrow. Taking close aim, you fall into your firing trance. Your allies tense, expecting a counterattack but Blackwater merely stands there, a small smile on his face.

You have the time to make this count, so you focus purely on firing your arrow with no need to rush. You move through each step, focusing your power into the arrow. You see the impact, just like you did when you destroyed those nightwalkers. You see Blackwater’s bloodied corpse, failing to regenerate itself after being split into so many pieces. You see his cane in splinters, ruby shattered.

Then you loose, expecting your vision to become reality.

[DC12 Astral Arrow]
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>>31897406
Oh, there will be mid-battle banter if we can get away with it. He's too flamboyant for there to be anything else.
>>31897383
Or she could have tried to surrender. She was an administrator, not a fighter. That would have fucked up his grand battle if his allies defected.
>>31897421
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>>31897421
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>>31897421
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So who else thinks he looks like this?
>>31897421
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>>31897455
>>31897444
Sucessful rolls makes for a happy Imperator and a happy Imperator makes for a happy empire.
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>>31897467
I do now
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So many of my posts today are just that little bit too long without much I can remove or add. It's annoying.

>Target met

Your arrow flies straight and true. For one brief instant, you feel it’s overwhelming power in this world concentrated in one small part of it. The power to realise your reality.

Then there’s a slight snap of power from Blackwater and everything is momentarily warped. A nearly invisible shield of darkness emits from his cane in the path of your arrow, blocking its path. The power in it is strong – strong enough to block an ordinary attack and it is most obviously not sorcery. What disturbs you the most is that the power was summoned from nowhere. There was no hint of Blackwater gathering his power or manipulating mana from the environment – the power was just suddenly there, as though he conjured not just the shield but the energy sustaining it.

Your worries are for naught, however, as your arrow shatters the shield with no fanfare. The vampire sovereign has a brief instant to express surprise before he is enveloped in the magical explosion. Your might strikes at him, and you hear the crack of stone shattering. The two columns next to Blackwater turn to rubble as the force blasts them into pieces, raining down on the ground below the platform. The platform itself appears to crack slightly, the stone underneath Blackwater cracking and turning to dust and the steel base underneath warping slightly from the pressure.

>continued
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>>31897728
But your vision isn’t reality. There is no gore. No flying limbs or screams. Vad lets out a whoop, but you calmly ready your sword and shield, knowing this isn’t over.

The smoke clears, and Blackwater appears none the worse for wear. His clothes are destroyed, as is his elegant cane and its ruby but he stands completely unharmed with little more than a look of annoyance on his face.

“That suit cost a lot, you know,” he mentions absently. “I can certainly see how you’ve been able to make it this far, though. Such power is exceedingly rare. I couldn’t match it, after all.

“Now, what will you do, Talon York?” Blackwater asks, leaning forward with a broad grin completely uncaring of his nudity.

>1. Charge him with everybody at once.
>2. Retreat
>3. Exchange banter with him
>4. Custom
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>>31897741
>3. Exchange banter with him

HA! HA! TIME FOR WORDPLAY!
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>>31897741
>3. Exchange banter with him
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>>31897741
>>31897728
Aw shit man, we have a mad nude vampire on the loose.
"You could at least conceal your modesty, 'master of shadows'"
>1

Also as a note: Holy crap astral arrows are more powerful than I thought. To do all that damage...wow.
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>>31897741
>>3. Exchange banter with him
"You seem to have me at a disadvantage, you speak of ending this in preferred terms yet you know how this will end regardless. Tell me, what is it you seek to gain here if not your death?"
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>>31897741
>3. Exchange banter with him
I want to see where this goes. Maybe we should have a rhyming contest? Beatbox? Dance off?
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>>31897741
>3. Exchange banter with him
Banter like an imperator
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>>31897912
Rolling for BANTER OF THE IMPERATOR
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>Bantering with a nude vampire
Let's just keep our eyes to his shoulders and up...and hope everyone else does too

Knowing our luck, he enthralls people with the D
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>>31897980
I told you about those love and friendship powers bro! I told you!
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>>31897741
>Blackwater takes astral arrow
>Clothing damage and nothing else
fuck the phylactery paranoia. Dude is apparently super ridiculously uber durable. And that shield, that was something else too.
I am back to thinking his lady is a fae-pire or some such empowering him.

Alternatively, this could be an illusion to get us to kill each other (remember that roper in pop?)

Alternatively, that stone circle around us acts to shield him, maybe we need to smash them all to make him vulnerable... did the stones shatter from the blast directly, or from being overloaded while defending him...
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>>31898129
Yeah honestly if it's mainly just durablity then it isn't as bad as a respawn.
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>>31897980
Nah, that's be how Talon would do it if he were a daywalker.

>3.

When all else fails, just talk. It will give you time to think of something or maybe he’ll just get bored and attack you. Given how much Blackwater seems to enjoy the sound of his own voice, you doubt the latter will occur.

“You know, if the suit was expensive couldn’t you have just worn something cheaper?” you ask, holding arms up in a questioning gesture, made all the more odd by the enormous sword and shield you’re holding.

“That would have ruined the decorum,” he explains, conjuring a replacement cane made of shadow to lean on. Once more you only sense the power the second he uses it. “I am the statesman, the man of words, where you are the warrior, the man of swords. Of course, if this were ancient Staropol I would be both, for the ruler held a sword that made them untouchable.”

>continued
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>>31898164
“I’d make a crack about your cane being such a thing but your cane has already cracked itself,” you respond. “Tell me, Blackwater, what is it you hope to achieve here? You seem to realise how this will all end – why waste your time here, waiting for me to enact your little diorama before killing you.”

“Because, Talon York, when I look back on my time in Taour I want to be able to say it had a memorable end,” he responds. “It had a memorable start, what with the rebellion I helped trigger that burnt it down to engineer to my own plans. The middle was nothing special, unfortunately. But the end… a grand showdown atop the peak of the city, where I once ruled as the most powerful person in the city and nation. To battle with the man who would sunder all of my dreams and close this chapter of my long life with a memory that I will never forget…

“That is what I hope to achieve here,” Blackwater finishes, fixing you with a serious gaze.

You meet his gaze calmly through your helmet. You respond with…

>1. A concentration on building atop his dreams. “I do not wish to destroy your dreams, merely build mine and those of others you would deny atop them. And I will deny you the chance to stop me.”
>2. Disregard for his twisted dreams. “I will not merely destroy this twisted city you endeavoured to build, but to replace it with my own dreams that will surely show you my superiority. Not that you’ll be around to see it.”
>3. Distaste for what he is doing. “Your dreams? This twisted little ruin of misery and death? I will see it destroyed and its toxins wiped from this world. Along with you.”
>4. A wish for balance in the future. “If your dreams had been more united in cause, and less about yours and other vampires superiority, perhaps this never would have needed to happen. Sadly, my dreams and yours are incompatible.”
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>>31898164
>Nah, that's be how Talon would do it if he were a daywalker.
now I REALLY wish we could have played daywalker talon
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>>31898164
>Nah, that's be how Talon would do it if he were a daywalker.
You make a good case.
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>>31898178
>1. A concentration on building atop his dreams. “I do not wish to destroy your dreams, merely build mine and those of others you would deny atop them. And I will deny you the chance to stop me.”
>2. Disregard for his twisted dreams. “I will not merely destroy this twisted city you endeavoured to build, but to replace it with my own dreams that will surely show you my superiority. Not that you’ll be around to s
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>>31898178
>1. A concentration on building atop his dreams. “I do not wish to destroy your dreams, merely build mine and those of others you would deny atop them. And I will deny you the chance to stop me.”
We are the builder and the taker.
>>31898195
It's not too late anon
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>>31898164
>>31898178
t-that's kinda gay, blackwater...

>2. Disregard for his twisted dreams. “I will not merely destroy this twisted city you endeavoured to build, but to replace it with my own dreams that will surely show you my superiority. Not that you’ll be around to see it.”

Break that vampire illusion of his!
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>>31898195
we still can.
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>>31898260
>>31898251
no no. I wish it but not enough to disregard what we have going on, which is awesome.
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>>31898178
>1. A concentration on building atop his dreams. “I do not wish to destroy your dreams, merely build mine and those of others you would deny atop them. And I will deny you the chance to stop me.”
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>>31898178
>4. A wish for balance in the future. “If your dreams had been more united in cause, and less about yours and other vampires superiority, perhaps this never would have needed to happen. Sadly, my dreams and yours are incompatible.”
they could have made a vampire utopia
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>>31898178
>3 & 4
Question why this 'dream' is so important, when all he has are cities upon cities of terrified people as his slaves. Not willing worshipers, not welcoming refugees, but terrified commonman.
This dream of his, if that is what he really desired, what this was all for, is disgusting, and we will not stand by to let him rebuild it on the broken backs and pools of blood of Taour's citizens.
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>>31898276
we still can, and continue what we are doing.
Vampires aren't evil in Apsirationals setting.
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>>31898178
>5. other

"And what were those dreams? A nation of cattle lorded over by an undying undead race? What would that have accomplished? You would have held your little fiefdom until the people rose against you, or the mages blasted you to pieces, or the Astral Adepts chose to conquer everything. Your dreams had no ambition, and that is why you will lose."
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>>31898315
>Your dreams had no ambition, and that is why you will lose."
Thats what he wanted.
He wanted to lose in the end,
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>>31898313
Give it up man.
It ain't happening. Too many consequences, not enough sweet forbidden power to make it worth it.
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>>31898369
but the D, demands power anon.
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>>31898315

I like this better than the other options; they all seem a bit too same-y.
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>>31898313
>>31898381
>Not realizing what I am talking about
anon, if we gain the ability to enthrall with the D, then our harem becomes thralls. When I was talking about what we have going on I wasn't just talking about our little empire (although it would have been catastrophic for it m with guaranteed rebellions). But mostly focusing on the well being of our lovers
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>>31898369
Eh, Daywalkers can get really powerful if Volante, Darius and Perrin are any indication.
I'll agree that it's not for Talon, though.
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>>31898315
Actually, I'll change my vote to this if it's not too late.
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>>31898350
deep. he IS an artist
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>>31898178
>2. Disregard for his twisted dreams. “I will not merely destroy this twisted city you endeavoured to build, but to replace it with my own dreams that will surely show you my superiority. Not that you’ll be around to see it.”

The man that would be a god has no need for dreams like this.
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>>31898417
Nah, I was saying it'd be better if we hold off and maybe catch the attention of an arch angel in a good way.
Who knows. Maybe they have some contract shit for people who are SUPER GOOD BOYS
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>>31898440
Thats why he wanted to go out in a bang, so basically he is gonna try to suicide through us, and if we fail he will get pissy.
Maybe he can't kill himself in conventional ways.
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>>31898315
this
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>>31898315
Nope
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>>31898464
Actually, the way I heard him talking, He thinks he's going to survive this. In fact, he's totally sure he's going to survive this and continue on a new chapter of his life.

Phylactery confirmed!
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>>31898315
>>31898397
This is basically one of those path options rather than a write-in speech option - that's why there is no custom offered. This write-in reads to me as a [1] due to the way it seems to proclaim your superiority over his ambitions without expressly wanting to destroy them.

I'll still make use of the words as Option 1 appears to be the result, but just letting you know that unless the write-in offers a different world-view to the others it will get shoehorned. I do apologise if the world-view of each option isn't clear enough.
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>>31898490
either way, he wanted to lose.
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>>31898178
>>4. A wish for balance in the future. “If your dreams had been more united in cause, and less about yours and other vampires superiority, perhaps this never would have needed to happen. Sadly, my dreams and yours are incompatible.”
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>>31898503
Alright, I can abide by that. Didn't realize this was once of those IMPORTANT DEVELOPMENT decisions.
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>>31898503
Oh dang.

Well it seemed like a huge portion wanted 1, so....
I suppose we chose 'Superiority' path.
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>>31898458
And what, become the Archangels' whipping boy?

Being beholden to another power would kinda put a damper on the whole 'Imperator' thing.
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>>31898458
>Archangels
>Good

Their inhuman monsters.

>>31898315
This cheesiness burns.
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>>31898503
>This is basically one of those path options rather than a write-in speech option - that's why there is no custom offered. This write-in reads to me as a [1] due to the way it seems to proclaim your superiority over his ambitions without expressly wanting to destroy them.
it seems more like a 3+4 mixup to me than a 1.
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>>31898178
>4. A wish for balance in the future. “If your dreams had been more united in cause, and less about yours and other vampires superiority, perhaps this never would have needed to happen. Sadly, my dreams and yours are incompatible.”
Talon is no extremist
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>>31898608
>>31898535
too late anons, 1 won.
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>>31898623
Ah shit my tablet died and I was just about to vote balance
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>>31898593
>The Archangels are inhuman
So are Undine, Sala, Gnome, Lynn, Vad, Tsucchi, Mercenie etc...
As for the monster part, what are you basing that on?
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>>31898595
Yeah but we can't mix em.

>>31898569
Eh, I guess. I was just saying it was another 'foreign source' for people wanting power boosts.

I don't really care for any others, daywalkers included. Astral works fine by me.

>>31898593
>Inhuman monsters
>Helped prevent world from being eaten by shadow things
Uhuh...
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>>31898608
Talon is definitely an extremist. He has carved out a nation by the sword in half a year for his own goals.
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>>31898646
The pastebin, and the part where we they killed their worshipers.
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>>31898646
Most astral powered beings are seriously fucked up in the head man. Singleminded or closedminded to the point of insanity.
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>>31898653
>Helped prevent world from being eaten by shadow things
Check the pastebin out anon, they aren't as good as you think.
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>>31898653
>Yeah but we can't mix em.
in that case, it seems more primarily as a 4.

>>31898503
>Will use words
>But char building
>No mixing
>Will count as a 1
Why not have a revote now that we know clearly these rules?
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>>31898662
That's actually a very good point. Whether or not the Archangels are good on the alignment scale, they systematically killed the people who adored them the most, and should definitely be regarded with a healthy amount of suspicion.
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>>31898655
Not in a philosophical sense. He's quite the pragmatist. He's seen to many idiots to believe in the superiority of a single group.
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>>31898686
I didn't say they were good, but they're way more agreeable then vampires, or demons, yo.
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>>31898699
I thought what happened was that the angels told people "the religion worshipping us is bullshit" and then OTHER PEOPLE went on to kill them because the angels didn't bother protecting them
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>>31898716
I would rule them on the same lengths as infernals personally.
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>>31898699
Wasn't that the cult that refused to stop worshipping them after they told them multiple times to fucking stop?
Seems reasonable to me.
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>>31898727
No i think they used them , and sent them to their death for the war, and then outlawed them.
I forgot if they personally went after them or condemned them to death though.
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I’ll consider just demarcating path choice votes in the future to avoid confusion. I’m mostly trying to avoid people not choosing what they feel is in-character but instead what they think fits the path they want.

>1. With part of 4

“So your dreams are so insignificant that you’ll give them up with little more than an artistic final battle?” you ask, slightly incredulous. “Was your dream of a nation of cattle lorded over by an undying undead race? If it truly was so unambitious, a dream so weak that it would assuredly crumble under any number of foes, be they your subjects, the mages or the gods of the west. No wonder your dream’s middle was nothing special for your dreams were nothing but a platform for those with actual ambition to build upon – for me to build upon and better. Perhaps if you’d been that little bit more balanced, recognising the humanity still within you, this may have never happened.”

You hold your sword out towards him, point first before speaking the next words. “And for the record, just as I’ll deny you the opportunity to deny dreams greater than your pathetic ones I will deny you your memories. The dead can’t reminiscence in the past, Blackwater, so I hope you’ve done a lot of it lately.”

Blackwater leans back, giving you a broad, almost insane grin. “Opposing me to the end in everything. Hah, for all your distaste for my ‘diorama’ you truly go to every end to make it as grandiose as possible. I applaud your sense of majesty, your majesty. Now, shall we put on the show?”

The words hardly have a chance to leave the vampire’s mouth before you cross the platform, sword reared back and ready to strike. You’ve got nothing left but to see how immortal this bastard is with your own two hands.

[DC14 Combat]
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>>31898730
Seeing as the Archangels at least did SOMETHING for humanity, instead of just fucking with those foolish enough to deal with them, I'd say they at least have a stool to look down on Infernals from.
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Rolled 10

>>31898759
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Rolled 5

>>31898735
Not a cult if a large portion of the region beleived in it, and sacrificed themselves for it.
>>31898759
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>>31898716
We haven't even met demons. Also, they aren't "agreeable." Astral powers are called upon by a certain pattern of thought. Many/most astral beings get stuck in a certain pattern of thought.
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Rolled 20

>>31898759

Here goes
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Rolled 5

>>31898759
I'm never in time
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>>31898759
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>>31898710
In a personal sense then. But he is very driven, that's pretty much his thing. And driven towards conquering building and changing things. Not preserving a balance I would think, or if there is a balance it's only so that everything doesn't fall apart around him in pursuit of his interests.
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>>31898646
The QM flat out said in one thread that Raphael is a inhuman thing driven by life.
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>>31898795
NICE
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>>31898764
Infernals as far as i know stayed neutral during the conflict, and it was said letting them know of our presence wouldn't be healthy for us.
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>>31898799

And thank god for that (I kid, but that was close)
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>>31898795
YYYYYYEEEEEAHHH
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>>31898795
DAYUM

>>31898833
thank god I decided to type a message
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>>31898799
Thank god you weren't
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>>31898759
>Talon basically calls Blackwater the stepping stone he is
Oooooh shit son, he's got your number.

>>31898795
This is gonna be fuuuuun
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>>31898795

Haha, I rolled the opening 20 against Volante too.

Apparently my combat dice fucking hates daywalkers
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>>31898759
>Blackwater leans back, giving you a broad, almost insane grin. “Opposing me to the end in everything. Hah, for all your distaste for my ‘diorama’ you truly go to every end to make it as grandiose as possible. I applaud your sense of majesty, your majesty. Now, shall we put on the show?”
its funny, because he is spot on here
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>>31898810
In some ways yes. In other ways Talon does try to balance competing interests and give everyone a stake in a way that the vampires never did. Our governing structure for example is designed to explicitly do exactly that.
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>>31898882
You know /tg/, anon. We have to be the hammiest emperors around.
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>>31898920
At least there isn't any puns.yet
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>>31898901
>In other ways Talon does try to balance competing interests and give everyone a stake in a way that the vampires never did. Our governing structure for example is designed to explicitly do exactly that.
not just the vampires
Taour is a vampcrocacy, only vampires have power
RSK is an Aristocracy, only nobleborn have power
Magi League is a magocracy, only mages have power
Astral Adepts are a Theocracy, only priests have power

And usually, with power comes rights, or the ability to violate the rights of others.
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>>31898882
>>31898920

As long as we keeping rolling 20s and styling fools, we are entitled to be hammiest emperor
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>>31898920
We could be "SUPERKING, MIGHTIEST OF HEROES!!"
not that we're not close
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>>31898750
Iirc, it was the Angels that used them.
The Archangels always disliked them, and denounced them after the war on account of all the Angels already bein dead.
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>>31898941
That's because we don't have a focus for our puns, like cats or italian food. Any ideas?
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>>31898961
>Taour is a vampcrocacy, only vampires have power
Wrong, there are nobles who sucked up to vampires in power as well.
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>>31898941
>Sadly, there aren't any puns, yet
FTFY
we gotta fix this ASAP btw, puns for the pun god!
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>>31898882
You know, I'd actually say tg dice in general have a sense of majesty to them too.

Think about it. How many narratively important 20s have we rolled?
I think at least 3 or 4.
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>>31898988
PUNS FOR THE PUN GOD
JOKES FOR THE JOKE THRONE
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Best pic I had
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>>31898979
I thought there were only 2 angles in the plane and it was the 2 archangles?
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>>31898970
eh, we are way way way behind schedule on this conquest because a large long streak of poor rolls. We were bound to get some breaks eventually

>>31898985
They didn't have real power, they were probably trying to prove themselves enough to be uplifted to vampire status.

Now, mages on the other hand likely had some measure of power
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>>31899018
Archangels aren't Angels.
The last Angels died fighting the Shadowbeasts.
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>>31898991
I would tend to agree.
>Make amazing plans
>1, 1, 1, 1...
>Do something awesome and majestic
>20, 20, 20, 20
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>>31899056
You sure?
I remember Aspirational calling them angles.
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>>31898901
Balance in fairness, the best kind.
Well we did end up with a touch of it in the speech. Vampires never seem to make good rulers do they...
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>>31899014
Man, I wasn't even thinking of that when I posted.

I love you anon
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>>31899056
So how is an archangle a different species then normal angles?
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>>31899071

Our invasion of Taour has been going pretty well so far, save that one crit-fail

Talon really shines in combat situations though
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>>31899089
As long as we're not going full Oprah, I can handle a bit of meritocracy. As long as we have complete veto powers on anything.
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>>31898810
>Not with preserving the balance
The status quo isn't balance in this case. The status quo is very much lopsided and off balance

That being said, balance is a vague as fuck term that can mean way too many things.

... it is a real fucking shame that star wars decided that the prophecy of anekin's bringing balance to the force was when luke redeems him and he kills the emperor while committing suicide.
For a moment I thought it was "balance the force by striking a blow against the overwhelmingly powerful light side"
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>>31899071
Imagine what we would be reading if we had rolled a 1 here. I think everyone would be cringing. And adverting their eyes.
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>>31899087
I'm sure.
It was in an earlier thread, where it was explained that Archangels aren't really the same thing as Angels.

It's probably a racial divide similar to Nightwalkers-Daywalkers, or Humans-Mages-Gods, but I don't know the specifics.
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Okay, this may take a little while to write-up. I don't know how long this will be. Please bear with me for a few minutes.
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>>31898961
Right, and the legislative structure of the Grand Duchy of Vitria (which I'm pretty sure we intend to export) was designed to give everyone a stake and a say in the way things are run. Of course, we and our close allies have enough of a say that we get our way on enough important things that OP only has to run legislative politics when things go seriously wrong.
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>>31899112
>Our invasion of Taour has been going pretty well so far, save that one crit-fail
Invading the capital, yes. We have had serious setbacks in the campaign in previous threads though
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>>31899153
Were there more than the 2 archangles Aspirational?
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>>31899107
well, the regular angles are limited to being acute. I can't confirm this, but I'm sure the Archangles have enough power to be right, or even obtuse.
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>>31899153
>Okay, this may take a little while to write-up
Oah god, this fight is going to be amazing
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>>31899119
We're kinda like Putin in a way. We have a legislature with real power, but we've stacked the deck in our favor enough that any thing we really care about we'll probably win unless something goes wrong.
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>>31899176
In the Cataclysm, which take place before 0PC, yes.

Also, archangels are different to angels. The angels all vanished after the war with the shadowbeasts along with the Archangel of Death - they were common during that.
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>>31899153
It's gonna be glorious I am sure.

Waiting warmly.
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>>31899166
As well as all those fails while trying to hold Darlesia. We failed nearly all of those rolls once we actually got into the city.
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>>31899166

When in doubt, blame everything on Parras and not the shitty /tg/ dice

I'm fairly certain all our shitty dice roll was when Parras was involved somehow. He's bad luck
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>>31899217
>As well as all those fails while trying to hold Darlesia.
that was part of our campaign anon

>>31899223
we had some atrocious rolls, as well as nat 20s, with a variety of generals.
For parras, remember how he annihilated those 2000 troops of theirs and then how well he did during this invasion of the city
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>>31899223
>talking shit about my nigga Parras

He's Knight material son I'll fight you.
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>>31899278
That's Phrace.
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So how do we Boost felix's power?
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>>31899278
Phrace, not parras. Parras a shit.
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>>31899278

Phrace is a bro, Parras a scrub

Learn the difference, it could save your life
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>>31899271

Yes, but my confirmation bias and selective memory say otherwise
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>>31899295
honestly, I think we should convince him to focus about teamwork.
Sure we are amazing, individually. But we will get our ass kicked if we tried to fight an army alone. And can't even be everywhere at once.
It might take him many years to catch up, or he might never do so. He should rebuild his knightly order.
And he could be a general again too once we gain his trust. We earned his fear, so he is sure a 1v1 against us is death, but not his trust.
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>>31899299
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>>31899295

Well it was mentioned that he uses magic, just not as well as he could. I mean that's an option. And he is working under Lynn with top tier sorcery (Dragon magic but still).

I've been wrecking my brain trying to figure something out, he's just... A human. He did pretty ace shit whenever he was our General though.
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>>31899295
List:
1. Fel-Human
2. We learn something like the Astral adapt creation ritual
3. Item of Power or other enchanted gear
4. Daywalker
5. He cuts a deal with Fae.
6. He gets good the good old fashioned human way. Hard work and better teachers for swordsmanship and sorcery
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>>31899314
can someone remind me the difference between the two?

>>31899358
A knightly order can outlive us both, as his living legacy. It could end up giving rise to someone way greater
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>>31899360
Wait, you actually meant Parras? You ACTUALLY think Parras is knight material?
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>>31898795
>Finally get home
>Mothafucking Aspiring Emperor Quest hell yea-
>Nat 20 on combat with Blackwater

You all muh niggas
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>>31898759
Going to guess we just choose the Flame and balance option.
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>>31899421
Uh, you mean water right?
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>>31899400
What is wrong with Parras? He went through that one string of bad rolls

Which was our fault let's not kid ourselves.
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>>31899378
1 and 2 are the only remotely acceptable ones.
Also, astral-adept = God. A bit overpowered and only person who knows it is lord ember (supposedly, for all we know he was born that way like us and just said he invented a ritual).
However, the God-Knight ritual might be acquireable
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>>31899400

>General of your armies and an old general from Vitria. Also a member of the Black Stone knights.

Not him but technically already is.
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>>31899369
You know who else is a Human?
Alyce of Lyss.

We just need to get some guys to come in and teach Felix&co how to into magic better, while also training them more in killing things and getting their base stats up.
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>>31899443

>turn Felix and his boys into our own God-Knights

Holy fuck I want this.
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>>31899482
>Astral Adepts
>Meet Astral Masters
>Knightly Order of the Master, Skilled in Bow, Sword, and Killing
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>>31899482
>let them go crazy as well
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>>31899443
Yeah he mainly can do it do to his concept. Which is why I"m trying to get Talon on the Power/Flame route. Giving life and uplifting is a nice combo for a god-emperor.
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>>31899482
why just THEM.
As far as we know, we ARE an astral-adept.
This mean it should be within our power to turn people into god-knights. We just don't know how, yet.
All our top soldiers could be given that gift.
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>>31899443
To be fair, developing a fel human ritual would mean a war to the knife with the mage guard the instant they found out.
>Also, astral-adept = God. A bit overpowered and only person who knows it is lord ember (supposedly, for all we know he was born that way like us and just said he invented a ritual).
However, the God-Knight ritual might be acquireable
You do realize God-Knights are literally just Gods in fancy armor right? The ritual is exactly the same.
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>>31899551
God-Knights are the people who were blessed by the Astral Adepts. They're not actually gods themselves.
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>>31899399

Phrace is the bro who commands your heavy metal knights and kicked ass at both the Vale and Raupe

Parras is the old Vitrian general who fucked up at Raupe and at the ambushes into feeder provinces because we kept rolling natty 1s
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>>31899551
>You do realize God-Knights are literally just Gods in fancy armor right? The ritual is exactly the same.
AFAIK god-knights are lesser copies, with much less astral power, and a massive premade boost to their physical powers (and making them huge)
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>>31899548
No we aren't. That's literally the only option we've managed to be sure Isn't whats happening.
>>31899565
I think You're confusing the Great Lords with the Asteral Adepts.
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>>31899565
Their astral adapts wearing armor. It's why they can use astral power.
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>>31899575
thank you for clarifying.
Parras is an experienced nation builder though. We will really need him to help rebuild taour and darlesia.
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>>31899587
We're calling the Great Lords Astral Adepts because we're not dignifying them with the title of God. By Denying them that title, we're basically saying we can kill them.
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>>31899565
Astral Adepts is our name for God-Knights in a propaganda process to lessen their seeming power.
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>>31899605

I am shitting on him now because it's fun but I don't actually believe that he's useless and should be put to the pasture.

Just a string of bad luck, but hilarious in retrospect
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>>31899565
>>31899578
Gods *are* the shitty knockoff copies, they are also the Astral Adepts.
The Great Lords are something more.
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>>31899605
Yeah, maybe we can find something for him to try to ambush.
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>>31899640
alright, if that many people are arguing the point, I guess I need to reread the Pastebin on what is what.
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>>31899624
FYI: I came up with the name. It was never my intention for the name to apply soly or even primarily to the Great Lords, but rather the "gods" they made.
I don't like to toot my own horn, but if we're arguing semantics, the fact that I originally proposed the name is probably relevant.
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>>31899662
That anon was right,

///5.2. The Gods / Astral Adepts

The superhumans that are the true subjects of the Three Great Lords. They're bigger than a normal man. Some of the god-knights used to visit my home city when I was young and living near their territory. I haven't met one since as they don't seem to travel far from home. Supposedly they hate non-humans. Not big sorcery users themselves, but the Lords apparently defeated Kushan, so maybe they're powerful spiritualists? Also, calling them gods is ridiculous - don't they have some less arrogant name? You've decided to call them the Astral Adepts - both as a reference to their power source (as described below) and a backhanded reference to mage adepts.
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>>31899683
Indeed anon by God-knights I mean the subjects not the lords themselves. I didn't realize the lore actually named the lesser subjects gods as well.
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So do we kill him?
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>>31899728
See, this is what happens when you don't pay attention.
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Rolled 20

>>31899777
Rolling for anons patience.
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>>31899777
>Implying it will be that easy
We'll have an advantage and room to make errors with the dice. Probably hit him for some damage but he'll have tricks up his sleeve.
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>>31899806
RIGHT THEN. WAITING UNTIL THE HEAT DEATH OF THE UNIVERSE NOW.
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>>31899806
>nat 20 on patience
calling shenanigans
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>>31899806

We monks now
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>>31899806
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>tg decided that we shouldn't call the gods gods, because they are just ascended humans
you know, at the time I was all for it, but in retrospect this makes little sense
We shouldn't have a concept of a god as a creator. Greek style gods make more sense here. So what if they were mortal once. They were mortal, and through a great act of wizardry they became gods. Makes perfect sense
And there are different tiers of them too. the god-knights are less than the three great Lords
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Brace for impact. This is over 7000 characters, with some really beefy paragraphs. I think I went a bit overboard.

>Exceptional success

Your boot crunches into the stone flooring of the platform, the force from your landing pushing through the steel below. Your sword is coming forward to cleave into Blackwater when he suddenly jerks his shadow cane upwards, the inky construct changing shape into a thin sword. You quickly rebalance yourself and avoid his thrust, jumping to his right. You crash into one of the stone columns, the power in your leap and the strength of your armour cracking the stone in two, lengthwise. You turn to take on Blackwater again as the top of the column slides into oblivion on the streets below you, the boom of it shattering on the stone below you resounding throughout the battleground.

As you remove yourself from your moment on the sidelines you catch Vad, Lynn and Felix attempting to attack Blackwater from all three sides. Catching Felix’s blade with his own, Blackwater pushes forward and pushes your guard back even as he catches one of Vad’s arms with his own. Blackwater’s mysterious power rears itself again but right as it attempts to activate and turn Vad’s arm into pulp, Vad uses some of his own and propels himself away from the vampire. Meanwhile, Lynn makes use of the opening and launches her blade skyward, bisecting Blackwater vertically after grinding against the stone surface for a moment. You clearly saw the blade go straight through him, and you can feel Lynn’s strange draconic sorcery in her sword but the vampire, although momentarily stunned, remains unharmed and resumes his attack.

>continued
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>>31899806
pls, this is the best quest on tg, I would wait a very long time.
I schedule both my work and family time around Aspirational
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Crunching the stone below you again, preparing for a charge, you then catch Gnome, Undine and Mal trying their own tricks as the first three peel off to the side. Mal, likely having realised that his antimagic can’t disrupt the summoning of power if it doesn’t appear to be taking place, launches a series of strange magical blasts that ripple through the ground, bright sparks flying up through the stone where they pass. Dust flies up as they pass, high into the air, marking the height these magical scythes reach to as they cut along the platform towards Blackwater, restricting his movement. In their wake charges Undine, ice streaking along behind her as she prepares to engage Blackwater while he is contained.

Then he shifts to the left, directly into one Mal’s attacks, and there’s another brief instant, so quick it would appear that Blackwater was unfazed to an untrained and unempowered eye, where the daywalker freezes when he should be turned into a pile of gore. Then the moment passes and he charges headlong into Gnome’s attack, leaving Undine chasing after him. Your familiar is ready, however, and the constant thrum of her power since you ascended to this platform suddenly becomes like a raging storm crashing down upon the cliffs. The stone columns and flooring beneath her suddenly seem to warp into one place before her, stretching across the length of the platform for a brief instant, before they crash into Blackwater with a shattering boom that would signal the death of any mere mortal. But as a ton of stone turns to dust, the vampire seems unfazed and leaps backwards, avoiding the earth elemental. Right behind him is Undine, who punches her icicles straight through his back as she leaps over him and shreds him with the rest. It’s to no avail though, as Blackwater remains unharmed, if defensive, even as the icicles tear through him, smaller ice shards coming out the other side as if they had truly impacted his flesh.

>continued
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>>31899868
But no blood. The vampire remains steadfastly unharmed by all your comrade’s attacks, who now keep their distance looking worried. Then you propel yourself forward, right at the vampire, ready to try your attack again.

His sorcery catches you off-guard, and having seen this attack before he projects his shadow-sword several metres in length and catches your wrist, severing the tendons within it. Your sword, with all the power draining from it, clatters to the ground as you stifle a scream. You instantly project your astral frame through your body, having practiced so much now that it’s almost instinctual, and fall into a martial stance, dropping your tower shield with a flick of your left arm. You’re in Blackwater’s guard now, brimming with astral power, and you’re not going to lose your momentum just because he got first blood.

No, instead you’re going to turn that pretty face of his into a bloody pulp.

Your right fist, supported by the power of Iron Body, snaps forward towards his face but is deflected by Blackwater. As the vampire’s other arm flicks towards your outstretched arm, carrying enough force to snap bone, you shuffle further into his guard with a hard elbow. Swing your arm around his in that oh so brief instant of suspension Blackwater goes through, you tangle your arms around his and pull him towards you at the same time you crash your head forward. Your helmet clangs loudly against his head, indicating a physical impact, but the feel of everything is so… false. Your grip around his skin, the impact of your helmet against his head – everything feels slightly off.

>continued
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You release the daywalker, noting his lack of injury with a complete lack of surprise, then channel your power into your right arm, focusing the power normally in the rest of your body into one small part of it. Your fist cocks back like a mechanical hammer, before you pull the trigger and launch it forward. Blackwater, having been stunned by the ‘damage’ you had inflicted, recovers in that instant just as your fist collides with his nose.

Gnome uses a fancy technique, her attacks seeming to flow in the battle like she could see the future. Undine has her amazing sorcerous talent, augmenting her physical talents in a devastating dangerous display of death. Salamander has a tricky technique around being fast and unpredictable. Having sparred with them all, you know overwhelming power is your schtick. You don’t ask the world for guidance, rely on genius talent or use foreign technqiues. You just enforce your reality on your foe.

Just as you do right now, your fist crunching into Blackwater’s nose and breaking it. Blood splatters out of it and the vampire noticeably reels back from the impact, nearly losing his balance. He looks shocked, having taken a serious injury. You’re the one who should be shocked, given you hit him with enough power to have shattered stone blocks and he gets away with a bloodied nose.

The vampire looks at you, eyes narrowing in anger.

You smirk. “Is this also part of your plans for the diorama, Perin?”

He snarls and charges forward. You have a brief moment to decide your response.

>1. Keep hitting him with your power using your fists. You’re less talented at this but maybe the closeness of your power source and your target is related?
>2. Pull back and grab your sword. Your talent lies in weaponry and you can focus your power through the blade to deliver more damage.
>3. Retreat. You barely harmed him, how can you keep fighting him?
>4. Custom
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>>31899909
>>1. Keep hitting him with your power using your fists. You’re less talented at this but maybe the closeness of your power source and your target is related?

Cross Counter his ass
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>>31899909
>1. Keep hitting him with your power using your fists. You’re less talented at this but maybe the closeness of your power source and your target is related?
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>>31899909
>1. Keep hitting him with your power using your fists. You’re less talented at this but maybe the closeness of your power source and your target is related?

Bop his old ass, Talon
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>>31899909
>1. Keep hitting him with your power using your fists. You’re less talented at this but maybe the closeness of your power source and your target is related?

Jesus, we get a nat 20 and we still get our sword hand disabled. This guy is OP.

Is there some kind of illusion going on with him? Is he also using FR points against us? I don't understand the source of his invulnerability.
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>>31899909
>1. Keep hitting him with your power using your fists. You’re less talented at this but maybe the closeness of your power source and your target is related?
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>>31899909
>1. Keep hitting him with your power using your fists. You’re less talented at this but maybe the closeness of your power source and your target is related?
Jesus after all that he is still fighting.it makes you wonder if the introvert vampire is stronger.
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>>31899909

headbutt and then pummel the vampire with your firsts
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>>31899909
>1. Keep hitting him with your power using your fists. You’re less talented at this but maybe the closeness of your power source and your target is related?
Tried and tested method.
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>>31899909
>1

>Talon casting FIST all day long

Requesting a german suplex through the floor pls.
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>>31899992
Te funny part i can see him laughing it off, as we suplex him to the underground floor in the middle of the town square.
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>dat nat20 update

God damn Aspirational I am hyped as fuck.
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>>31900033
We gave him a bloody nose.
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>>31899909
Until that broken nose thing I thought this was an illusion
Now I think he must have some fae deal or some such using astral unreality to prevent him from taking harm.
If only we could detect it. I say we shift focus from harming him to detecting the source of his magic. maybe we can sever it

>>31899992
>Talon fisting his foes
FTFY
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>>31899909
Looks like surprising him is the only way to deal damage, if has any time to react he is able to mitigate the damage.

FAST FISTS ARE A GO KEEP HIM OFF BALANCE TG
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>>31900049

Mal, Val and others who are more magically attuned can try to do that

We got a vampire to punch out
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>>31900033
The monks were right all this time...
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>>31900069
Should had voted for monk anon, we could have been a kongfu bad ass.
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>>31899909
That was the most glorious thing I have ever read.

and I am terrified now.
>Fist to fist now?
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>>31900110
What you thought he was gonna be as easy as the last 3 day walkers we killed?
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>>31900102

What if we were the type of monks that required celibacy?
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>>31900054
Reading this, standard rule applies - if you guess what's preventing him from getting damaged then you'll get a bonus and I'll reveal it. There's technically enough hints, but I'd be really surprised if anybody got it with so little to go on.
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>>31900102
But then we wouldn't be able to take the place of the Great Lords, anon. We wouldn't have been given the Astral Powers.
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>during all this his undead dick is just flopping about

Think about it Anons. THINK ABOUT IT.
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>>31899979
A theory.

>Every time he suffered a severe injury, he seemed to pause, briefly as if frozen in time and space
My suspicion is perhaps his power allows him to phase in and out of reality-like, replace his physical body with a fake, illusionary one- in a mere instant. This would mean no matter what we hit him with, if his reflexes are powerful enough, they do nothing. And his reflexes are DAMN fine.

There, when we hit him just now, we 'forced' our reality upon him. As in, brought him into our fist, I picture. So perhaps that is part of it?

Or I may be talking out of my ass.
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>>31900139
Actually Monk had something extra special for it.
Aspirational didn't say what though.
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>>31900157
>flopping about
No he has a raging hard on, during the whole time is fighting back the swords with it.
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>>31900157
>Imagining it

Quickly aspirational is this guy like Normal man tier or John Holmes tier?
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>>31900121
Tobitos power from naruto
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>>31900121
>Then he shifts to the left, directly into one Mal’s attacks, and there’s another brief instant, so quick it would appear that Blackwater was unfazed to an untrained and unempowered eye, where the daywalker freezes when he should be turned into a pile of gore. Then the moment passes and he charges headlong into Gnome’s attack, leaving Undine chasing after him.

This, combined with us doing damage when he is stunned, makes me think its a mental thing. Maybe we can't do any damage when he has confidence that it won't hurt him.
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>>31900121
He's being temporarily phase-shifted or taken to another world, therefore we need to hit him while he's doing something physical.
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>>31900166
>>31900121

WAIT A MINUTE.

BLACKWATER. THE CLUE IS IN HIS NAME.

You know how there's always the thing in foraging where there's the dude trying to spear the fish in the river and he misses by a hair? Because the refraction of the light through the water makes it look like the fish is somewhere that it isn't!

That's what he's doing! He's shielding himself and using the power of Shadow to move his image off-center by a titch, so when people are attacking him, they're really attacking thin air and his shield! When we actually hit him, it was pure luck we actually got his real position!
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>>31900157
with a 12 inch boner swinging wildly

>yfw he attacks with his boner, and "stabs" any of us
>rolls nat20 for his penetration
>that person likes it
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>>31900121
How about the recent power shown in bleach, where the enemies power is his imagination(double edged sword).
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>>31900238
....
That....
that is really clever, anon. Holy shit.

Aspirational, is this it? Holy crap that is cool
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>>31899886
>you tangle your arms around his and pull him towards you at the same time you crash your head forward. Your helmet clangs loudly against his head, indicating a physical impact, but the feel of everything is so… false. Your grip around his skin, the impact of your helmet against his head – everything feels slightly off.
So, this is a pretty strong hint there.

remember when we fought the shadowguy? how he hid inside his own constructs of shadow? what if this is something similar?
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>>31900238
...That sounds like an awesome power
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>>31900238

Wow that's actually a solid as fuck theory.
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>>31900121
Can Blackwater also enforce his will on reality to some extent? And like Volante said we have to literally brute force our way through it through sheer willpower and FIST!
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Rolled 3

>>31900247
not rolls for girth.
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I think the key is in how he felt strange when we touched him. Does anyone remember if it was mentioned if other day walkers felt strange?
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>>31900238
HE HAS DISPLACEMENT
WE'RE FUCKED
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>>31900238
>Artist names himself after his greatest masterpiece, bending light itself for combat
haha, brilliant
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>>31900238
The question is how does the Lady Marianne play into this?

Or maybe he has some other invulnerability beyond even this.
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>>31900238
Whilst that's pretty cool, it's not his power. It doesn't truly fit all the hints even if it does remind me of a power from the same source I drew vague inspiration from.
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>>31900247
>Nat 20 boner
>Starts shining gold
>"This Boner of mine is BURNING RED! Its loud roar tells me to grasp victory! ERUPTING BURNING BONER!"
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>>31900247
>That was a roll for Lynn
>I die inside as I lose my dragon girl to undead rotting floppy dick
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So we can not let him go, keep a hand on they guy and bash his head in.
>>31900314
Maybe she heals some detrimental effect of his ability
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>>31900324
DAMN IT
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>>31900324
Dammit. I thought I was so smart when I thought of that. Though, that spoiler helps. somebody start googling sources that have displacement.
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>1.

You hold your ground as Blackwater steps forward. His nose remains as obviously broken as earlier, piquing your interest given how trivial an injury it should be for a daywalker of his calibre to heal. Then he steps into range and you shove the thoughts out of the way. Thinking is for your comrades to do – maybe they’ll twig to his trick.

His fist snaps forward in an obvious feint as he tries to step into your guard, but you easily deflect both his punches with your own arms. You shift backwards slightly and bring your foot up and kick him backwards. That freezing motion happens, but you had expected it given the lack of astral power in your attack. As he slips backwards you quickly assume an offensive posture and push forwards.

[DC19 Immortal Combat]

Note that all rolls against Blackwater use the old dice rules for dramfails.
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>>31900335
what if it hit vad instead

>Inexplicably, for some reason, I start to cry a little upon seeing Vad getting his guard pierced by Blackwater's Boner
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>>31900324
Does he have shadow clones? Or like, able to leave illusions wherever he has previously been/replace where he's been at with illusions?
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Rolled 8

>>31900362
>19

jesus.
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Rolled 1

>>31900362
roll
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Rolled 8

>>31900362
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Rolled 16

>>31900398
OH BOY

>>31900398
OH LAWD
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Rolled 6

>>31900362
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Alright, so we know he is a master of blood magic and darkness magic, he might have vague immortality powers, he feels weird when you touch him, he freezes the moment before something hits him, he has no or nearly no regeneration.
Maybe he isn't a daywalker at all?
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>>31900398
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>>31900398
hahahahahaha
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>>31900362
>Very last bit
...
Well that figures.
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Rolled 19

>>31900398
Yay, adn we are using the old rules.
FR point please.
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Rolled 12

>>31900398
I knew it mother fuckers. I fucking knew it.
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>>31900398
It was good while it lasted.
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>>31900398
>>31900362
FR point.
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>>31900398

Well I mean we had to expect it to happen sooner or later.

However the dice rolls changing? Hm...
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>Note that all rolls against Blackwater use the old dice rules for dramfails.
AHAHAHAHA
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>>31900362
I get the feeling he is freezing himself somehow.
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>>31900398
I have no face and I must laugh.

Wow.
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>>31900414
What is blood and darkness magic all about? I remember we went over it slightly before fighting Volante.

Maybe he just uses the blood to selectively form his body around projectiles, needing to pause and focus as he moves around the attack
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>>31900455
that actually doesn't matter, we didn't roll a 19 to get mitigated
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>>31900362
FR point?
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>>31900398
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>>31900414
... Could he be bodyswapping himself through a clone or something? Like, that freezing would be the swap, the odd texture would be the clone, and the lack of regen would be that the double isn't a real daywalker.
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>>31900449
Not worth it right now. We don't even know how to beat him.

I am beginning to suspect coming here without solving his immortality bullshit was a grave error.
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Any one read Jojos the manga?
I have a feling that is where this power is from.
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>>31900449
not yet on the FR point
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>>31900472

Way too early in combat to burn it I think.

It's a team battle as well. We might get our shit wrecked here but we have back up for once.
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FR POINT REROLL VOTE

You currently have 1 FR point. You do not currently know how to regain them. If you use this FR point, you will not have any available until you regain another.

Note that FR points affect all rolls in a chain.

Option 1
Burn an FR point in order to make the result of >>31900362 a regular success.

Option 2
Do not burn an FR point.

Rules for voting are to make a post with a link to this post and the number you are voting for. No other text, no greentexting the number. All informal votes will be discarded. Voting window will be five minutes after the first vote.
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>>31900516
2
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>>31900516
2
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>>31900506

We rolled a natty 1, how much worse can it get?
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>>31900496
Yet people chose to rush ahead anyway thinking we can take him, after still feelling the high of the last day walker we killed.
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>>31900502
explain to those not familiar with it

>>31900506
exactly
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>>31900516
2
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Guys, we were essentially expected to lose this combat round. a DC 19 would take luck that we don't have to beat. Just let things fall where they go.
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>>31900496
Eh I don't know. We didn't even know where to begin to look for Lady Marianne until a couple minutes ago. We literally would have to stop the conquest of Taour 90% and then possibly go on a quest to Faorun to find her.

Unless she is actually somewhere here. I feel failing that search roll in Perin's mansion was major.
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>>31900516
2
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>>31900463
Blood is straightfoward, blood manipulation and buffs. Darkness is all about summoning and illusion.
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>>31900533
Neither have i, but it is posted enough on the boards i visit i remember it having crazy powers and one of them sound similar to this one.
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>>31900559
that is still not an elaboration
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>>31900483
But then we would be able to see his non injured self switch out with his injured self.
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>>31900516
2
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You're all going about this from the wrong angle.

The detail here is the glitch as attacks go in and through him, and he's apparently just standing and not giving a fuck.

Normally I'd go for the cliché "he's pulling shit from alternate realities/time warp hijinks" since that's what they're almost always are. but I'll take a wild guess and say he's drawing the power from her beloved's lifeforce, or she's some sort of fae and serves as the energy source of the "immortality", hence her utmost secrecy.

>>31900516
2
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>>31900516
1
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So... He freezes for a moment, what this does we do not know, my assumption is some kind of timestop. Can we time our own frozen moment when he does one?
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>>31900553
Hate to say it, but retreat may be a worthy option.

Look on the bright side, we shattered his numbers. He has basically nothing left. Even if he chases us, it might just be better to save our asses here, now that we know where his precious lady is.

Not right now, I mean. We're not even hurt. But it's an option if no anon here is smart enough to crack this puzzle.
I know I'm sure as hell not.
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>>31900589
that vote doesn't count because you had extra text. link and vote, nothing else.
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>>31900589
I think if we picked 1 we could get a huge hint or even answer on what his power is.
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>>31900516
2
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>>31900597
What if its like Code gayass, and that he stops the perception of time momentarily for us, but time moves normal for him.
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>>31900121
He switches bodies with his own shadow.
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>>31900605

We should if we aren't able to get any actionable clues from our next few rolls
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>>31900605

He still has a sizable army in Crese. And people in the field. And people in the city.

How could we order a full on retreat from Taour and allow him time to dig in? Our morale would be shot. We'd lose the Veteran Knights/Mages help. And all so we can go gallivanting off to try and find some mystical power source we have the vaguest of details on while our men try to defend the land without us?
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>>31900607
Hey guys, Aspirational has someone say diorama three times throughout the speech. Just throwing that out there. And that he is obsessed with a performance and the act.
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His power comes spontaneously without being summoned which seems to defy our normal understanding of how magic works. This suggests it is pre-stored somewhere (Lady Marianne?) and then "wirelessly" conducted through him. Who knows.
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I think these passages holds the key.

>our helmet clangs loudly against his head, indicating a physical impact, but the feel of everything is so… false. Your grip around his skin, the impact of your helmet against his head – everything feels slightly off.


>Gnome uses a fancy technique, her attacks seeming to flow in the battle like she could see the future. Undine has her amazing sorcerous talent, augmenting her physical talents in a devastating dangerous display of death. Salamander has a tricky technique around being fast and unpredictable. Having sparred with them all, you know overwhelming power is your schtick. You don’t ask the world for guidance, rely on genius talent or use foreign technqiues. You just enforce your reality on your foe.

>Just as you do right now, your fist crunching into Blackwater’s nose and breaking it. Blood splatters out of it and the vampire noticeably reels back from the impact, nearly losing his balance. He looks shocked, having taken a serious injury. You’re the one who should be shocked, given you hit him with enough power to have shattered stone blocks and he gets away with a bloodied nose.

There is something I'm missing in here that I know is the biggest clue, but I'm not immediately finding it. I think it has to do with the 'enforcing reality on your foe' bit.
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>>31900650
It'd have to be the other way around, given the evidence.

Time moves normally for us, but stays still for him, therefore he cannot be harmed until time moves for him again.
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>>31900558
healing too, super healing comes from blood

>He gets cleaved in fucking two
>He gets his by all kinds of destruction.
>Every time he takes a fatal wound, instead of healing it like a normal daywalker, he freezes for a moment and then it gets undone
>He isn't regenerating our astral face punch, actually having a nosebleed
>He feels wrong to the touch
>He cut us real good with a sword made of shadow, which used to be his staff, we shattered the first, he summoned a new one.
Something is very off about this guy, he isn't regenerating at all. he just unmakes injuries except those given be extreme amounts of astral power.

This lack of regeneration actually reminds me of how Volante has reduced regeneration rate from binding himself to his armor.

I get the distinct feeling that this is some sort of puppet... wait, shit shit shit!

>the feel of everything is so… false. Your grip around his skin, the impact of your helmet against his head – everything feels slightly off.
This reminds me of the false corridor. what if we are in a demi plane where he has near absolute power and just uses it for "I cannot be harmed"? We overrode that power with the astral magics.
The stone circle, I get the strong distinction they help maintain it and should be destryoed
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>>31900681
What is this battle is the stage and his body is merely an actor? Not really him and being controlled from elsewhere?

He specifically led us up to this place maybe we should look around for a clue about it.
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>>31900680
Then what do you suggest, anon? Letting ourselves, or our allies die in a pointless battle of attrition when we have no clear way of hurting this guy, other than natural 20s? And even then to limited success?

A good emperor knows when it is smart to retreat, and an unstoppable immortal vampire is plenty reason.

Note that I am suggesting this if we can't beat his puzzle. So...ya know, you guys get to work thinking on that. Cuz I got nothing.
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>>31900681

Is he a puppet?

His antics seem over the top cartoon villain (the smiling), his total disregard for his own nudity betrays that either he doesn't give a fuck, or is unable to give a fuck as sex organs are of little relevance.

I don't know I'm throwing ideas out there.
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>>31900691
>enforce your reality on your foe
>he feels off
>surprised he was injured at all
>master of blood and shadow

What if he isn't really alive? Like I don't mean undead but not actually there? Maybe the combo of blood and shadow lets you surpass being 'there' and he just isn't a normal being. One that can't be hurt unless we warp reality to change the rules he has made.
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>>31900691
...
Maybe Blackwater can use astral power too, and ours 'bent' his 'bent' reality to our whim?
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>>31900740
>>31900680

Why would we order a full retreat from Taour?

He's isolated on the highest point of the city while his army is getting rekt

If we must retreat, we should simply fall back to our host and heal and regroup before pressing another assault
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>>31900691
I get the feeling he is pretty much glitching reality out.
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>>31900763
Can't Vad detect astral power though?
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>>31900715
FUCK. Does he have a PoP bound to him!?
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>>31900710
Time is unable to be messed with according to QM.
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>>31900788
No its a real power, and it seems like apsirational gave us hints.
Also it seems like a character dies or is mortally wounded thanks to the nat 1.
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>>31900782
yes, we have faced false realities before. the corridor, the fae domain...

heck, the whole "his lady" thing?
There is his wife/childe whom he turned into a daywalker, but she is NOT the source of his power
the source is his Lady as in a female that commands him... a fae or the like who is empowering him with unreality due to some deal or another
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>>31900763
>>31900681
GUYS! REMEMBER HOW HE HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT HOW WE WILL DEFEAT HIM! WHY IS HE SO SHOCKED AT GETTING HURT IF HE WAS EXPECTING TO BE KILLED? THIS ENTIRE FIGHT WAS MEANT TO BE AN ACT!
He is using a combination of blood and shadow to become something that can't be effected by reality unless he wants to, and our reality warp powers let us hurt him.
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>20 minutes have passed
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>>31900817
or severely wounded. we have taken nat 1s before that took out half our HP.

>>31900824
I strongly suspect the location matters to. like the stone circle might be helping him do it.

Also, a huge fucking hint
>Doesn't gather power normally
>Mal can't block his magic, nor can gnome
>His magics just appear out of thin reality
big hint here
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I think at this point we're going to need another hint from Aspie. We're all running around in circles at this point, and we need him to help us narrow it down a bit more.
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>>31900863
thing is Apsirational gave us a big hint by saying one of the suggested powers is from the same universe as the vampires, so if we figure out the source material we could guess the power.
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>>31900868
Hopefully us getting our ass handed to us in the next post gives us more material to work with.

Take experimental damage lads! Gather data!
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No FR point.

>Dramatic failure

You shift forward as Blackwater moves backwards. He recovers slightly from your earlier attack just in time for you to launch your knee into his torso. Barely catching it with his hand, he avoids being stunned and pushed back and you find yourself tipped backwards, your inexperience and the weight of your armour working against you. You slap your hands into the ground and use your leverage to twist yourself out of his grasp, rolling to your feet in the process.

But he sticks with you, launching a series of quick jabs at you that bounce futilely off your armour. The clangs of his fists against your armour feel real, as does the force that ripples through them into your body, shaking you slightly, but somehow it doesn’t feel right. A niggling feeling that what’s causing this isn’t what you see in front of you.

Shutting down the idle thoughts, you seize on his failure to hurt him and attempt to grapple him. The attempt goes sour as the arm you latch onto him with is quickly counter-grappled. You attempt to break his grip with a hard strike but he merely freezes for an instant, far too little time for you to summon enough power to actively stop him. Then your armour creaks, the magical scrawl that resides in the metal itself showing itself briefly as Blackwater overpowers the sorcery it represents. You let out the first notes of a scream as Blackwater snaps your forearm, the steel around it bending and digging into your skin and worsening the pain.

>continued
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>>31900868
Rolling for anons hope.
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>>31900897
Then the pain vanishes and you rush upwards. Your head slams into his as you trip him. Riding the vampire to the ground, you push power through your right arm and forcibly snap it back into shape, the armour screaming as you force back into a vague semblance of its original shape. You plough your fists into his face repeatedly, delivering each blow before he recovers from his momentary freezing. Although his face remains unimpacted, the steel platform beneath his head creaks and dents with each blow.

The armour along your right arm gives slightly, and Blackwater seizes the advantage. He coils around you, gripping you tightly around the waist from behind before you can react. He then flips you over his head and you crash into the weakened point of the platform. The platform shrieks as the steel finally gives way and you crash down to the stone far below. The impact of your steel armour against the hard, cold stone rattles your very bones, but your astral frame remains strong, keeping you in the fight. You full yourself to your feet, ignoring the stone dust and bits of steel falling down beside you. You hear shouts and blasts of magic above, and figure that your allies have engaged Blackwater while you’re busy.

Nothing for it but to keep the fight going, until you can be in a position to safely make a new decision.

[DC12/19 Astral Combat]
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Rolled 15

>>31900918
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Rolled 7

>>31900918
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Rolled 5

>>31900918
>>31900897
>The clangs of his fists against your armour feel real, as does the force that ripples through them into your body, shaking you slightly, but somehow it doesn’t feel right. A niggling feeling that what’s causing this isn’t what you see in front of you.
Dem darkness and blood powers...
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Rolled 2

>>31900918
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Rolled 3

>>31900918
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Rolled 3

>>31900918
he is doing this naked by the way
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Rolled 12

>>31900918
magic anon is magic.
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>>31900926
You bought us valuable time, anon.

WE GOTTA FIGURE THIS SHIT OUT
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Rolled 6

>>31900897
Fuck! he messed up our armor! I hate this guy.

>A niggling feeling that what’s causing this isn’t what you see in front of you.

Can we activate our astral senses to see if there's a line of energy coming from this dude? Like, the same way that the trapper in the PoP was found by tracing the energy lines?
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>>31900918
Maybe he's an astral projection of sorts?
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>>31900897
>A niggling feeling that what’s causing this isn’t what you see in front of you.

Honestly I don't know what we haven't guessed at this point that doesn't point towards him not entirely being here.

>inb4 it was the butler all along
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Rolled 10

>>31901003
I'll laugh if the butler was black water.
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>>31900897
>The attempt goes sour as the arm you latch onto him with is quickly counter-grappled. You attempt to break his grip with a hard strike but he merely freezes for an instant, far too little time for you to summon enough power to actively stop him. Then your armour creaks
>He freezes for a moment before delivering a serious injury to us.
>A niggling feeling that what’s causing this isn’t what you see in front of you.

We are seriously fighting an illusion... a hard light illusion that can do stuff, like take injuries (but be instantly repaired). The freezing for a moment before injuring us was to properly align with it, to come into contact

oh shit
>our eyes meet his.
We met his eyes during the banter part...
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>>31900897
>launching a series of quick jabs at you that bounce futilely off your armour
>The clangs of his fists against your armour feel real, as does the force that ripples through them into your body, shaking you slightly, but somehow it doesn’t feel right. A niggling feeling that what’s causing this isn’t what you see in front of you.
His fists are bounding off us but they are causing us to shake?
Ok, maybe he is summoning something with each attack. Like pure darkness attacks that we can't see.
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>>31901016
>We ate something the butler gave us
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>>31901033
wait a minute
>His fists pounding into us, don't penetrate armor
very realistic illusion... or rather, a shadow conjuration like that other vamp we fought, but too weak to harm us. just distract us for the real one to come in and hit us
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What does the momentary freezing mean ;-;
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>>31900983
>>31900992
So far as you can tell, he's right in front of you. He has the same sort of strange feeling as the other daywalkers and so far as you can tell he really is there, except anytime you come into contact with him it just feels... wrong. Just like the way he's summoning his sorcerous power.

>>31901018
He's not Aizen.

>>31901003
Blackwater has a very particular form of 'immortality'. A couple of guesses have been on the right train of thought but took the wrong path at a fork of logic.
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We're still away from our sword yeah?

Improvised weapon!
Or have Undine summon/construct one for us.
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Rolled 2

>>31901061
Alright, somebody gather up all the immortality posts and find the common train of thought.
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>>31901070
or we take a moment to recover it, we aren't fighting alone
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Rolled 2

You know I keep getting the feeling he is redirecting the damage somewhere else. Like he gets hurt he freezes then he seems fine.
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>>31901061
>Took a wrong path at the fork of logic
What...like the answer isn't logical? Or we forgot to apply logic?
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>>31901115
It means we had the right idea but we made the wrong conclusions.
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Rolled 20

>>31901115
We were on the right track, but the logic we used took us off in the wrong direction.
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>>31901115
Err, no, I mean that you had a choice between two or more logical possibilities and chose the wrong one.
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>>31901061
He isn't an illusion. Blackwater gave up his traditionally mortal form a la Lady Marianne and has essentially turned himself in a sentient mass of darkness with the last shreds of his humanity periodically revisited so he can maintain himself. He doesn't have a real, undead body so he is essentially immortal as a creature of magic. Since he is an aggregation of magic he doesn't need to summon or prepare it he just uses it from his form.

When we hit him earlier we forced our reality upon him temporarily.

Hell I don't know.
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The biggest logic trains that I can see that seem to line up with each other are the ones that focus on his 'acts' bit. Something to do with his demeanor and those comments are the key to figuring this out.
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>>31901181
So his body has become a shadow?
That sounds plausible, actually.

Maybe Marianne is what anchors him to this world.
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>>31901181
So, his "summoning magic" is actually using his magical body part to do something?

Or maybe he is his own shadow? as in, the shadow on the ground cast by the meat puppet.
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>>31901181
Ding Ding Ding your correct, now for the bonus.
[DC10/15 Insight]
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Rolled 15

>>31901241

wat
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>>31901236
No, that doesn't work. If his body was a shadow, we wouldn't have been able to hurt him.

Is he shifting his damage to Marianne? Like, there's a magic that he uses to link to her and she takes it from him, and the moment that we got him was during his cooldown from the last shift.
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Rolled 8

>>31901241
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>>31901181
>>31901241
WAT
>>31901259
WATWAT
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Rolled 7

>>31901241
Wh-
That-That was right?!
HOLY SHIT YES GOOD JOB ANON, GOOD JOB
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Rolled 16

>>31901241
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>>31901241
>Your correct
Holy shit I feel so accomplished.

>>31901259
You ma nigga
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Rolled 14

>>31901181

Based anon
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>>31901241
This is certainly a milestone. Haven't had somebody pretend to be me, yet.
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>>31901288
Seemed appropriate, since people were so desperate.
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Rolled 3

>>31901266
>>31901241
SHIT

There's my punishment for not checking the thread first.

>>31901288

Awwwww... You got my hopes up, ruseman...
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>>31901288
Muh heart

>>31901241
You are like, 10 Hitlers
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Rolled 16

>>31901288

Fuckkkkkk
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>>31901288
...

Wait is there usually a roll for the bonus,

>That tripcode

Motherfucker
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>>31901288

Yep should have known better without the picture. Fuck.
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>>31901288
Can it count anyways?
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illusion
fae deal
astral unreality
Monks
phase-shifted (or any kind of teleportation)
BLACKWATER (refraction of light)
Power of shadow
Power of Blood
Power of shadow and blood
Clones
Time warp
Alternate reality (Includes confidence "I can't be hurt so I won't be hurt")
Switches bodies with his own shadow
Letting damage go to Lady Marianne
'enforcing reality on your foe'
No regeneration means not a daywalker
puppet
PoP (oah god I hope not)
Astral projection
Hard light illusion
Butler
some kind of hidden summoning
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>>31901318
He doesn't always post pictures actually.
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>>31901288
I only request that you don't go easymode and drop more hints. If the players get desperate, let them be, they've got enough help already. It's part of the fun in all this.
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Rolled 13

>>31901241
Hahahha that was perfect. 10/10 I think you gave everyone a heart attack.
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Rolled 11

>>31901241
>!NTkruZYsjM
not
>!cSxBMSnloo
You epic fucking troll.
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>>31901339
>Says the guy with no idea what's going on
You're not really helping, anon.
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>>31901354
Didn't want to crack his trip.
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>>31901241
>your correct
I was wonder why Aspir's impeccable grammar suddenly went to shit
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>>31901378

I don't know I've seen late night Aspirational get pretty smashed and his grammar go out the window.
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Alright, so, since this was a troll... back to discussion.

What if the shadow being cast by the body is the "real" him?
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So...
Anyone got anything?
Cuz I don't.
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We still have time. We succeed on the combat at least so that gives us time. Damn but I am out of ideas after shadow incarnate.

>>31901407
Plausible, he's close at hand but has a marionette on a string approach with the body.
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Rolled 8

>>31901407
We would notice that. Like we noticed that one guy.
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>>31901339
I've given my theory already, whether it was the one "on the right train of thought" or not, I feel it'll take the whole discussion's point out of the window if he decides to reveal a major hint
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>>31901407

I'd say we could give "pinning" the shadow down a shot. I don't know anymore. I'm kind of burnt on ideas.
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I think we should move away from the clone and 'not really there' theories. The guy is there. We got a few hints telling us he is there. I'm more inclined to think he is using his blood and shadow powers somehow in ways we can't detect.
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>>31901455
No point in getting another hint, maybe narrative Talon or our allies will give us something to work with.

We have a team of elementals, an astrail fox, and an accomplished mage. They must have something for us to work with.
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>>31901407
Already been suggested.

We already know that he's tanked a wide AoE Astral explosion, so any protection that wouldn't afford that is completely out.
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Rolled 10

>>31901469

Well, we were successful in astral combat role, let's see what kind of hint we get from this combat round first
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Rolled 3

You know we might be able to get a good hint if we bluff him about that lady of his. Something like we are distracting him while our men go after her. Might freak him out a bit.

Though I get images that he is pulling a "This is a stage" trick.
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>>31901484
Except Aspirational told us someone was 'close' but have no idea which one was.

So we can't throw them out.
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>>31901336
We should have killed that butler...
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Rolled 3

>>31901507

So we basically need to compile the ideas that have been thrown out and look at them again
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>Lower target met

You track around to the side of the platform and leap up through the gap your arrow made earlier. You’ll be able to get up and pick up your sword and shield. As you land on the open steel platform, the stone flooring having been disintegrated by your earlier blasts, you spot Vad nearby nursing his chest. Blood pours down his front, which he’s slowly healing judging from the constant warping sensation and flicking of his tails in the same constant pattern. His eyes flick over to yours as you come up next to him and retrieve your weapons.

“What the hell is going on? It’s like he’s there but isn’t there,” Vad whines. “All of my senses say there’s a daywalker in front of me, but when I hit him with an anti-sorcery attack, which are good against these bastards, it goes crazy like it can’t decide if there’s really a daywalker there.”

“Well, good to see we both came to the same conclusion by having the shit beat out of his,” you mutter as you watch Gnome and Undine try to keep Blackwater busy. The strangest part of all this is that he doesn’t seem immune to momentum – when you grab him or hit him, it’s like he’s still feeling the impact but his body never changes. Like you can’t actually cause the wound but can manipulate the physical reality before you – except that one time.

You shake your head, giving a Vad a pat on the back, before darting in. You avoid a charging leap as he’s seen it before and instead slip in as Undine slips out, nursing a broken hand. The hell is she focusing so much on close combat for?

>continued
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>>31901521
>>31901336
There's some
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>>31901529
Snapping forward with your shield to soak Blackwater’s shadow hammer, you then reach in and slash through him with your glowing sword. The golden light on it signifies a lot of astral power, but clearly it wasn’t enough, as he merely freezes as your sword cuts through him. The feeling though, is your biggest hint – you feel bone, flesh and sinew being torn apart by your sword. It feels just like every other person you’ve cleaved through – but it feels wrong. Not just the fact that as your sword cuts through him he remains unharmed, if stunned, but the feel of cutting through him is just that little bit off. There’s no rational basis behind the feeling beyond your gut instincts. Just like Vad says, everything says this is the real deal but you just know it’s not.

Then your sword is on the other side of him and you leap backwards with a signal to the others. There’s a momentary lull as your comrades stand where Blackwater stood at first and the vampire stands near the ramp that leads away. All falls silent as the clouds unblock the sun and the chips of marble in the remaining stone columns glitter in the light. The clouds of dust on the battlefield become that much more visible and you realise that this fight, although it feels like an eternity, has been ever so brief.

>continued
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>>31901549
Blackwater gives you a deep bow, like the ones that stage actors do at the end of a play. Then he says, “Truly this fight has been beyond my wildest dreams. I had expected that I would have to hold back so as not to kill you or your friends, but you have more than held your own. I cannot defeat you but, despite your power, you cannot hurt me.”

“Your nose says otherwise,” you respond across the gap.

Freezing, Blackwater then rubs his nose slightly, frowning. He seems to mutter soundlessly for a few seconds before shaking his head. His smile returns.

“Another thing that makes this so memorable,” he says. “But sadly, this is the end. You’ve ruined everything about this city that made it mine and I have my memory. Perhaps we’ll meet again in the future, or perhaps you’ll merely be a footnote in history by the time I reemerge into the open.”

He turns and you realise he’s serious about leaving. He’d seemed slightly tired, but not so much that he should retreat against you. Did you rattle him so badly by injuring him?

>1. Let him leave.
>2. Try one last attempt on his life.
>3. Custom
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>>31901573
>2. Try one last attempt on his life.
We almost got it,
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>>31901549
>The feeling though, is your biggest hint
Why am I so stupid
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>>31901573
>>2. Try one last attempt on his life.
"Really, leaving to your lady friend so soon?"
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>>31901573
Make or break. If we can't guess what's happening we might as well let him leave.
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>>31901573
>Try one last attempt on his life.
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Rolled 5

>>31901573

I'm going to take a few minutes to comply all the hints and proposals thrown out so far

We can give it one last shot after we brainstorm
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>>31901591
explain?
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>>31901573
>2
FR point burning incoming
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>>31901573
I noticed all our attacks are deadly, and pass through. The nose break wasn't.
What if we tried a restraining attack, as in, encase him in rock. Or lave the sword stuck inside his body rather than cleaving all the way through. (I'd like to see him regenerate that)
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Is he switching bodies?

Or making us think we're hitting him when in reality we're hitting an ally?
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Anons please stop voting to attack him again until or unless you have a good idea.
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>>31901573
>“What the hell is going on? It’s like he’s there but isn’t there,” Vad whines. “All of my senses say there’s a daywalker in front of me, but when I hit him with an anti-sorcery attack, which are good against these bastards, it goes crazy like it can’t decide if there’s really a daywalker there.”

THERE WE GO. That moment of Freeze is him swapping out with something, probably a literal shadow clone. that's why we can't get him.

"Going to See Marianne in your Farloun home, then?"
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>>31901573
>2. Try one last attempt on his life.
I think we can still make it.
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>>31901603
This is probably a good idea. I'll probably delay the next post a little bit for you guys to think.

>>31901620
The punch that broke his nose would have pulped the head of a normal man.
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>>31901549
He is there. We are cutting him but it feels wrong. My only guess is he is consciously ripping and moving his flesh around our sword as we cleave him so it feels wrong. We can impart momentum on him but he can consciously distribute it out.

I wonder what a stabbing action with no intention of passing through his body would give us. Would he just freeze?
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>>31901613
I feel like the answer is easy and right there but I can't see it.
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>>31901653
...
So...
He's made of shadow jelly?
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>>31901621
oh hey! Space manip!

Space manip hypothesis:
>“What the hell is going on? It’s like he’s there but isn’t there,” Vad whines. “All of my senses say there’s a daywalker in front of me, but when I hit him with an anti-sorcery attack, which are good against these bastards, it goes crazy like it can’t decide if there’s really a daywalker there.”

We are hitting cleaving through someone else as he uses space folding to make our attack go in one side and come out the other. He makes it go through some hapless slave to make it feel authentic so we don't catch on.
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>>31901671
so alucards power from hellsing?
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This whole thing will feel overwhelmingly unfinished and unfulfilling if he just walks.
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>>31901669
He is an absolute master of a blood to the point he can move his cells individually at will. He can perfectly open his body so our sword seems to cleave through but is just passing through him.

Though that doesn't explain why he doesn't regenerate. Yeah this is probably wrong damn.
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Rolled 17

I wonder. Maybe we are looking at this the wrong way.. Is he maybe making our attacks false and not the other way around?
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Rolled 18

>>31901573
20 says he is a Daywalker
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>>31901653
what if "he" is incorporeal and we are just hitting a flesh puppet he is possessing to interact with the world? and he rebuilds the flesh puppet every time it takes damage?

we basically need to punch him in the soul
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>>31901573
Is he some being that represents universal stagnation?
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Rolled 19

>>31901717
problem there is the broken nose.
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>>31901671
Shape-shifting amorphous flesh with a pocket dimension to store extra mass?
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Last hint: Nobody else gets the feeling of wrongness when they hit him. Just you and Vad.

Again, I'll be surprised if somebody gets it as there's so many possibilities (and mine requires a particular type of thought, probably). Also, I find it amusing how many suggestions are of immortality concepts I rejected.
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>>31901696
I'd rather he leave, then he kill us all because we can't figure out whatever stupid bullshit he's hiding behind.

We literally can't hurt him unless we roll a nat 20. And that doesn't even do much
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Maybe his from just resists change? The Astral Punch fuck you reality here's my owned over that but in other words he works to keep himself immortal by literally not allowing change to occur on his body at all?
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>>31901749
He is wielding astral power?

>>31901735
no, that was the astral soul punch
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>>31901749
So it's definitely Astral related, then.
That's...basically all that tells me.
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Rolled 5

Though honestly even if we can't hurt him we can still like bury him or the likes. Though I wonder if he would be effected if we dropped a ton of water on him to knock him down.
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>>31901573
The only thing I can imagine is Shadow dickery on the level of Darius. He created shit out of shadow, and Blackwater's even better, so there needs to be something related to that.

>Nobody else gets the feeling of wrongness when they hit him. Just you and Vad.

Awwww shit
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Rolled 15

Whick, when were the other times we felt that wrongness? I know there have been several times.
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>>31901749
Only we and Vad have astral sensing. He is using some plane of reality to fuck with the workings of how reality normally is. He is essentially one of those inbalances and abominations we harp on when we go into serious astral god mode.
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Rolled 2

>>31901749

Here's all the hints compiled

>Mal, likely having realised that his antimagic can’t disrupt the summoning of power if it doesn’t appear to be taking place, l

>Blackwater remains unharmed, if defensive, even as the icicles tear through him, smaller ice shards coming out the other side as if they had truly impacted his flesh.

>Swing your arm around his in that oh so brief instant of suspension Blackwater goes through, you tangle your arms around his and pull him towards you at the same time you crash your head forward. Your helmet clangs loudly against his head, indicating a physical impact, but the feel of everything is so… false. Your grip around his skin, the impact of your helmet against his head – everything feels slightly off.

>Mal, likely having realised that his antimagic can’t disrupt the summoning of power if it doesn’t appear to be taking place, l

>Blackwater remains unharmed, if defensive, even as the icicles tear through him, smaller ice shards coming out the other side as if they had truly impacted his flesh.

>Swing your arm around his in that oh so brief instant of suspension Blackwater goes through, you tangle your arms around his and pull him towards you at the same time you crash your head forward. Your helmet clangs loudly against his head, indicating a physical impact, but the feel of everything is so… false. Your grip around his skin, the impact of your helmet against his head – everything feels slightly off.

[Continued]
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>>31901749
he's phasing into a spirit realm, like Talo did at Vad's old temple. looks like he's there but he's not at the same time
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Rolled 11

>>31901805

>His nose remains as obviously broken as earlier, piquing your interest given how trivial an injury it should be for a daywalker of his calibre to heal.

>The clangs of his fists against your armour feel real, as does the force that ripples through them into your body, shaking you slightly, but somehow it doesn’t feel right. A niggling feeling that what’s causing this isn’t what you see in front of you.

>So far as you can tell, he's right in front of you. He has the same sort of strange feeling as the other daywalkers and so far as you can tell he really is there, except anytime you come into contact with him it just feels... wrong. Just like the way he's summoning his sorcerous power.

>Blackwater has a very particular form of 'immortality'. A couple of guesses have been on the right train of thought but took the wrong path at a fork of logic.


>“What the hell is going on? It’s like he’s there but isn’t there,” Vad whines. “All of my senses say there’s a daywalker in front of me, but when I hit him with an anti-sorcery attack, which are good against these bastards, it goes crazy like it can’t decide if there’s really a daywalker there.”

>The strangest part of all this is that he doesn’t seem immune to momentum – when you grab him or hit him, it’s like he’s still feeling the impact but his body never changes. Like you can’t actually cause the wound but can manipulate the physical reality before you – except that one time.


[Continued]
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Rolled 15

>>31901834

>The golden light on it signifies a lot of astral power, but clearly it wasn’t enough, as he merely freezes as your sword cuts through him. The feeling though, is your biggest hint – you feel bone, flesh and sinew being torn apart by your sword. It feels just like every other person you’ve cleaved through – but it feels wrong. Not just the fact that as your sword cuts through him he remains unharmed, if stunned, but the feel of cutting through him is just that little bit off.

>everything says this is the real deal but you just know it’s not.

>Last hint: Nobody else gets the feeling of wrongness when they hit him. Just you and Vad.

I will start compiling the theories posted before Aspirational gave us his "we're close" hint.
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>>31901780
>So it's definitely Astral related, then.
not necessarily, maybe just something that astral power wielders like talon and vad can bypass

...oh hey, remember the monks? they wield astral power extranally, maybe he uses human monk type astral magic? their wards are capable of artificial worlds even.
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Rolled 17

>>31901834
>causing this isn’t what you see in front of you
QUICK! how did we phase into the other reality back at the temple?
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>>31901802
When we punched him with astral power we canceled out the imbalance he creates with reality and fixed it so that the blow would normally (partially since he didn't take the full blow) go through. He feels "wrong" like his meddling is unnatural.

I have no idea how he is fucking with reality though. This probably isn't enough arrg
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>Farloun
hey, his lady is related to the farloun, ancient demon civilization. Remember our stint in a fake world with demon runes? How real it felt? we even kept an injury from it IRL? what if this is something similar here?
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>>31901834
>His nose remains as obviously broken as earlier, piquing your interest given how trivial an injury it should be for a daywalker of his calibre to heal.

IF a master of Blood can't heal that, then his Blood powers are obviously tangled up somewhere else. WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
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Why do i have a feeling if we figured out the secret, this fight would end up being a whole lot easier.to think the answer was in the mansion.
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>>31901879
FUCK! HE MADE A PACT WITH AN INFERNAL! that's how he's doing it!
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>>31901873
The monks would have used spiritual techniques to build the wards and the mysterious spatial extension into the monastery. As such, if you empower yourself with astral power, making yourself appear as an astral being temporarily, you should get some reaction. In fact, you think you’ll likely just breach the wards outright. Taking a deep breath and closing your eyes, you focus yourself and flood the power into your body. You feel something prickle against you momentarily but it vanishes in an instant. That would be the ward failing against you, you suspect. You open your eyes.

The world has lost all of its colour. The stone walls and floors are leeched of life and are now a bland gray instead of the sandstone they were before. Red rugs now lay in a mottled pattern of grays, whites and blacks. A haze hangs over everything around you. Yet you retain your colour as you look at your arms and legs. You turn around and look back down the hall and see that the hallway at the very end still has colour.
This is what happened after we picked >try to sense the wards
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>2.

“The hell you’re just going to walk away,” you mutter, dropping your sword and shield as your prepare on last attack.

You overwhelmed him with sheer power earlier and it’s stuck, despite his likely efforts to regenerate it. You just need to hit him hard enough again and again to make it stick. If he walks away, he’ll vanish with his secret only to reappear and cause the same problem all over again.

[DC18 Astral Combat]

One of the guesses was close enough I’ll give a slight bonus as it points towards the solution. If somebody still gets it right, you’ll autosucceed (though Blackwater might still get away given how late the realisation is).

Given how close we are to page 10 and oblivion, the next content post will likely be in a new thread. Along with a little bit of aftermath.
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Rolled 1

>>31901948
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Rolled 19

>>31901948
pls
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>>31901879
>>31901911
wait, the farloun are the race the RSK genocided are they not?
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>>31901805
>Magic he uses is instant, can't be dispelled
>There is something there we are hitting, something like bone and flesh, so much so others can't notice what is happening, and weapons going through him react as if they are hitting flesh
>Only Talon and Vad can feel the wrongness, implying it is astral related.
>He doesn't regenerate. Perhaps pointing that this 'body' we see can not do so, for some reason.
>This 'body' appears to exert force on objects and people, but our senses tell us it is not the body, but is instead coming from elsewhere
>Anti sorcery flickers, as if the 'target' is not on the correct plane to assault. Reacts to target, but can not harm target.

This tells me that he is somehow able to manipulate astral energies to make his body intangible at certain times. Like...well like a ghost, or a shadow. The freezing is the moment he shifts to and fro the plane (spirit, ghostly, shadow plane, whatever). Only astral beings can really react with the spirit plane, as far as I know.
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>>31901965
>>31901969
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>31901965
The dice gods are not amused.

This is the ultimate cock tease
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Rolled 14

>>31901948
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>>31901965
>>31901969
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Rolled 12

My first though having just got here is that he is twisting our attacks using his powers. It isn't he is immune it's our attacks are being manipulated. We feel the falseness of them going though him because what we are doing is fake.
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Rolled 8

>>31901948
nat 20
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>>31901965
>>31901969
using the old rules too, this is a crit fail not a reg fail.

Well we better figure it out then
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>>31901965
FR point man
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>>31901965
>>31901969
Irony

hmm could always use a FR point here. IF we really want to off him.
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>One of the guesses was close enough
Somewhere between here and the last point we got it 'close enough'
Get hunting
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Rolled 18

>>31902044

Nah, let the dice fall where it may, we don't have anything right now.
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>>31901819
... quantum uncertainty? collpasing the wave into "unharmed"?
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>>31902053
>>31902044

FR point wouldn't kill him. We don't know his secret.
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Rolled 6

>>31901948
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>>31902063
I think it was >>31901877 but that's because it is mine
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Rolled 17

>>31902074
At this moment i'm willing to use an FR point to get an answer.
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>>31901965
>>31901948
Fate Point
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>>31902063
I bet it has something to do with the guy who posted the Space Manip theory.
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>>31901793
Darius possessed his own summons, when they took fatal damage he got kicked out of them unharmed.
What if this is the same, only taken to the next level. He is possessing his own construct, only his construct is an image of himself?
Those shadow constructs appeared dark and shadowy... what if he threw a minor illusion over them to make it appear realistic?
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>>31902087
No. The only time we got a FR point was a nat 20 on a boss. The chances of that happening again are slim.
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>>31901948
Here is my guess, similar to how things were in the temple way back when our friend blackwater is on the other side of the coin so to say.
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FR POINT REROLL VOTE

You currently have 1 FR point. You do not currently know how to regain them. If you use this FR point, you will not have any available until you regain another.

Note that FR points affect all rolls in a chain.

Option 1
Burn an FR point in order to make the result of >>31900362 a regular success. This won't reveal Blackwater's secret or instantly kill him.

Option 2
Do not burn an FR point.

Rules for voting are to make a post with a link to this post and the number you are voting for. No other text, no greentexting the number. All informal votes will be discarded. Voting window will be five minutes after the first vote.
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Rolled 8

>>31902114
1
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>>31902103
we had nat 20s on a boss since and no fate point regained.
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>>31902101
Not bad. Not bad at all.
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>>31902087
I'm honestly just curious enough to use one just to see how it works. Since I can imagine pretty much infinite numbers of tricks to do so.
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>>31902114

2
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>>31902114
1
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>>31902114
2
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>>31902114
>This won't reveal Blackwater's secret or instantly kill him.
well fuck it then.
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>>31902114
1
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>>31902114
2
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>>31902114
2
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Rolled 18

>>31902114

2
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>>31902114
Oh, and that post links the wrong post because I derped. it's changing the result of: >>31901948

>>31902125
Blackwater's secret won't be revealed by the FR point alone. if you don't guess it or roll well enough I'll explain it once he's out of the picture.
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>>31902114
1
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>>31902101
That... That might work. It would even explain the broken nose. We punched so hard we broke through the construct.

Aspie, is this the solution?
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>>31902114
1
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>>31902107
Or only part of him is on the other side. When he is freezing he is focusing on the other side.
Regardless I'm going to request that Aspirational have us do what we did back at the temple to take a look. I don't know if it's phase walking or astral sight or what, but I want to get a peak to see if something else is there.
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Rolled 11

>>31902114

2
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>>31902114

2
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>>31902114
1
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>Again, I'll be surprised if somebody gets it as there's so many possibilities (and mine requires a particular type of thought, probably).

It's probably something metaphorical like Fire meaning Rebirth.
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>>31902155
Eh in that case I don't really mind if he vanishes. Once we gain more power maybe we can bribe an archangel to attack him.
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Is he doing what we do and imposing his will on reality?
Or, maybe, since it feels wrong, he's trying to imitate Astral power with Shadow?
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>>31902155
> out of the picture
What do you mean? Like he is going to disappear and we won't ever be able to find him?
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Welp, looks like you're using your last FR point on this. Pretty terrifying amount of informal votes, too. Remember, no other text in these votes including spaces and carriage returns. That means:
>>31902218
>>31902198
>>31902149
>>31902126
are all informal votes. I'll be starting a new thread in a moment.
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>>31902264
yup, until he comes back.
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>>31902264
Pretty sure he means after he leaves this encounter and we can't reasonably pursue him. He'll probably appear later in the quest to fuck us over later.
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>>31902276
DAMMIT YOU GUYS

YOU FUCKING INFORMAL VOTING SHITS
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>>31902276
Hopefully this will make for some kind of satisfying ending to this fight. If he just walks out, that would just suck
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>>31902276
what?
WHAT!?
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>>31902276
Ah what. Is there a recall option in this? This is a pretty crucial decision to be decided because a portion of players misformated their posts.

But I don't care either way. Let it play on, the Empire will endure.
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http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/31412841/#p31418345
>“I will not,” he booms, before breaking into a series of hacking coughs that resound like lightning strikes through the battlefield. “I will not fall to a whelp such as thee. I am the almight Darian, last of the Farloun. The master of Shadow and vampire of the ages.”
So, darian was a farloun. Lady is farloun. some secret. I am thinking it really is related here.
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NEW THREAD:
>>31902320

Still writing next content post.
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>>31902276
What a waste
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>>31902322
Honestly in that case I say we should start building up our empire while doing research on that lady of his over time. Just leaving would pretty much spite Talon.



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