You are Zhu Xing, from the city of Xu Chang. You've started your southern campaign to take the Southlands from Wang Lang. You managed to take a town and defeat Fan Neng's troops, taking a garrison along with it. You now face off against Zhou Xin's troops.Character Profile: http://pastebin.com/UTDjnUuXPast threads: http://archive.foolz.us/tg/search/subject/three%20kingdoms%20quest/
At evening, the embers and fires die out from the enemy camp and your troops go to eat their gruel. Gao Shun remains ever diligent, patrolling the camp while Zhang Liao practices his spearplay. Song Xian eats with the rest of the men, throwing some boasts here and there about his successful decoy attack. Lu Lingqi sits on a crate, cleaning her blade and sighing slightly.Right now you are deep in enemy territory, having decided to swiftly attack the enemy general Zhou Xin. You've decided to skip out on conquering and taking control of the enemy lands for a direct engagement with the enemy force instead. Wang Lang who has an estimated army of ten-thousand will be here in about two weeks.It's a bit hard to tell what's the correct decision. Perhaps you should ask the advice of the others? It might be more impressive to your men and officers if you decide things on your own as a general, but getting a defeat on the other hand might be worse.>Go and ask for advice from the other officers (Choose)>Decide not to ask, you're the leader and you are sure of the decisions you are making
>>33115189>>Go and ask for advice from the other officers (Choose)Zhang Liao, he's your deputy.
>>33115189>Go and ask for advice from the other officers (Choose)Lingqi of course
>>33115189>Go and ask for advice from the other officers (Gao Shun)He's experienced and won't try to attempt any ridiculous stunts for maximum glory, he'll just try to get the job done.
>>33115189>Go and ask for advice from the other officers (Choose)Zhang Liao for strategic advice, Fan Neng for advice on disposition of Zhou Xin and Wang Lang. How can we get Zhou Xin to surrender?
> Just got home from work with a big 'ol lunch.> TKQ is the first thread on /tg/Fuck yeah.>>33115189>Go and ask for advice from the other officers (Zhang Liao)
>>33115189>Summon all the officers for a War CouncilNo sense in just getting one general's opinion when it's best to think as a collective. A good leader asks all of his followers for advice before acting on the best decision.
>>33115189>>Decide not to ask, you're the leader and you are sure of the decisions you are making
>>33115189>You've decided to skip out on conquering and taking control of the enemy lands for a direct engagement with the enemy force insteadWhen the fuck did we decide that. What the hell people.
>>33115244If this is an option, it's what I'm voting for
>>33115274Because facing 3 armies of 2500, 3000 and 10000 is better than facing one army of 15500.Obviously. Are you retarded?
>>33115189>>33115235Is Fan Neng with us? If so yes. Otherwise Zhang Liao and Gao Shun
>>33115244Seconding this, why show favoritism?
>>33115244Lets go with this. Asking one person when we have an entire cadre of officers is silly.
>>33115189>>Summon all the officers for a War CouncilSurely the best choice.
Ask Zhang Liao.
>>33115244Seconding this, including all our officers will make them feel valued and should produce a better strategy.
>>33115303But we could gain troops if we went around conquering.I think we'll need to start setting up a lot of traps over this next two weeks.
>>33115303We have siege units for a reason. We could of also mustered support. Now we're what 6500 men strong? Surely to drop to at least 5000 before we're fighting the 10k.With, according to Raians read out no way of getting more troops.
>>33115274Did you read the last thread at all? Our strategic approach was a blitz to take out all the smaller armies before they could unify into a single army.Securing a supply line was less important because (1) we still have 4.2 months of supply left, and (2) we would be massively outnumbered if they were allowed to unite their army. We took out 3 separate garrisons/armies last thread for minor casualties. If we take out this last army, we only have Wang Lang's army to defeat.
>>33115357>We could of also mustered support.This province has been peaceful and we're invaders. No we couldn't.
>>33115274We're taking our queus from Bobby Lee and Erwin Rommel.
>>33115360What was to be a year long campaign one thread ago has turned into us going to fight the head general in a few weeks of actual fighting though.
>>33115392It's unlikely we'll annihilate his army even if we win, so there will be a somewhat lengthy siege afterwards where we can go around and take solid control of the province.
A typical method of easy and cost effective assaults in ROTK is a well placed fireball trap, I suggest we set up a lot of those during this waiting period in opportune locations, especially if we are upon a slope.If this garrison is based within a mountain we should find some good archer positions, as well as boulders to use against the enemy.If there is a dam around, we could use a well placed flood attack, which could in theory wipe 90% of the enemy out.
>>33115350>>33115357Look, our initial choice in the last thread determined our campaign approach. There were two perfectly legitimate strategies:(1) Blitz and destroy the field armies piecemeal and then recruit for siege or(2) Fight a war of attrition and slowly conquer the SouthWe chose 1, and it worked out well last thread. We need to stick to it because we literally can't switch gears right now. We are a month away from our "conquered territories". We are about to fight and likely annihilate Zhou Xin's forces and we can take their defensive positions and use it against Wang Lang's forces. If we retreat, we would be making a mistake.
>>33115189I'm voting for summoning the war council tonite.
>>33115410Which i think explains my reprehension. Even if we win (which i don't think we will) we're going to be in a weaker spot for it.
>Playing RotTK XI while we're about to enter a war council in TKQThis is unbelievably comfy
>>33115421Not gonna be one of those dicks that said i'm right if this all goes tits up. But i got a bad feeling about this.
>>33115440>weaker spot>enemy is trapped in their garrison, can't leave because it no longer has the numbers to win a field engagementI'm just happy no one is listening to your obviously terrible advice.
>>33115421>Either one extreme or another extreme.Raian literally told us last thread that an middleground approach was the best way of doing things.
>>33115421There's no point in retreating now anyway, we just need to strategise currently.We need to ask Raian about any terrain advantages, and perhaps find an opportune place to have those catapults set up. Hell, if it goes well enough we could hit the damn commander with a boulder.
>>33115189>Go and ask for advice from the other officers: Zhang Liao
>>33115421Def agreed. Stay the course. We're outnumbered, attrition cannot be our strategy. Numerically inferior forces only ever defeat numerically superior forces by the implementation of fast attacks and seizing the initiative on the Grand Strategy level, pressing the attack in the open field and avoiding being drawn into prolonged static conflicts.This is how the South maintained an advantage in the early days of the Civil War. It was only when they were forced into fighting a war of attrition that they started to lose badly.We do not have the numbers to do it the slow way.
>>33115410>>33115440It's better to meet an army on the field than behind the walls. We know from Fan Neng that Wang Lang is an incompetent general, that our troop morale is high, and that we'll have defensive positions (i.e. those hills). Their morale will likely be low since we annihilated all their reinforcements. I like our chances. But we have to be smart about taking out Zhou Xin's forces. We outnumber them by 2.5 to 1 but they have defensive positions. Lowering their morale and getting them to surrender would be preferable to assaulting a defensive position.
>>33115392Judging by how much food we've consumed, it's been two months.
>>33115523People's point is that we could get more troops via the other option. It's moot though since we're on full steam ahead course for this blitz plan.
>>33115244>>33115292>>33115316>>33115333>>33115340>>33115346>>33115359>>33115429>>33115529Titty-sprinkles, /tg/ actually strategizing for once!
>>33115541Wait, are we assaulting another garrison? I'm confused
>>33115484Citation Needed. He didn't even do a Q&A assessment last thread. >>33115503We have terrain disadvantage right now. Rolling hills, not a whole lot of foliage from Raian's picture. Their main camp is in a disarray because of a successful fire attack.
>>33115574>>33115576SOMEBODY OUTLINE WHAT IS HAPPENING.
>>33115574>>33115589Zhou Xin is an enemy general. He had 3000 men in a defensive position on some hills. We fire attacked him and he lost 500, so he's down to 2500.We have 6,350 troops, 2000 cavalry, and competent commanders. We also have 4.2 months of supply.Wang Lang's troops (up to 10,000) lead by an incompetent general will be at our position in 2 weeks. Therefore, we need to take out Zhou Xin in less than 2 weeks.
>>33115576I'm thinking we should bring up the siege weapons. Surround the enemy on three sides so if they try to shift position we can pin them and then hit their flanks.Keep up a barrage of ballista bolts and rocks until their morale is crumbling, ask for surrender and then if they refuse hammer them.
>>33115574>>33115589http://archive.foolz.us/tg/thread/33052045/#33052045>LAST TIME ON THREE KINGDOMS QUEST
>>33115616We have 6,350 troops and 2000 HORSES.So, 4,350 infantry, 2000 cavalry.
>>33115627Can we have Fan Neng request their surrender?
>>33115627No, we need to take the garrison as fast as we can, otherwise we won't have a good position against Wang Lang.That being said, if we defeat him and flee, then rush to his castle with the cavalry, we could take it, assuming he took all of his troops
>>33115666We also cant lose too many troops. Id say we have 1 week to play it safe. Time for some barrage and few ploys before we have to resort to the worst option.
>>33115666I like this idea. Even if he doesn't bring all 10k men to fight us, we could march around and do what Fat Chou did to us at Chang'An
>>33115666An assault costs too many casualties. They'll likely be on guard against sneaky attacks. They have superior field position, but that's a two edged sword - they can't leave that position if they want to deter our attacks. We have siege weapons, they don't. It's an open field, so they'll be particularly effective.At the very least we'll lower their numbers when we do force an assault.
You call up a war council, telling a soldier to gather all the generals for a meeting. In about an hour time, you have a council set up in the main tent with a table and chairs placed. All the generals present sit sternly, along with Fan Neng who is at the far end of the table. Lingqi looks bored, her elbow om the table and her head leaning on her hand."Greetings," you say to the generals. "I've called you all to see what you all think of the current situation. And to ask what moves we should make.""Isn't it obvious?" Lingqi says with a scoff. "Why are we not taking this Zhou Xin down now? We have the advantage of numbers, we should take them quickly.""They have the advantage of the hills..." Song Xian mutters."Regardless, we should defeat them swiftly as possible," Zhang Liao states. "The ploys we have initiated are robust, but we should defeat them in quick battle and retreat back to our own territories where we may gather more men and supplies.">Agree with Zhang Liao and follow his plan>Disagree with Zhang Liao, you want to do more indirect attacks to keep your own numbers strong>State you wish to hold your position at the hills after defeating Zhou Xin and fighting Wang Lang
>>33115666>assuming he took all of his troopsBig assumption, I guess. It'd blow for him to be able to attack from two sides
>>33115683There isn't a worst option. In fact, using the cavalry to stage fire attacks on Wang Lang's food while we take cover in the hills sounds like a great idea, especially if we hit them hard.
>>33115576>Looking at the territory you have to take, you expect that this campaign could last a year or so. The enemy has a couple thousand troops guarding the towns and villages while ten thousand troops guard the city of Hui Ji which is your main objective. Wang Lang is unaware of your attack force currently, so you have the advantage of taking his territory and guard forces before he marches out his main force. Taking too long may mean Wang Lang gathers more of his troops together, but marching too quickly may also mean tiring your army out and not taking more firm control of the territories you hold. You need to decide and balance things out wellInB4 any "In character things written by the QM don't count!" bullshit.
>>33115704I don't know about you guys, but to me this is Raian clearly telling us we need more troops / supplies to fight Wang Lang.
>>33115704>>Agree with Zhang Liao and follow his planI do agree with Zhang Liao. It's a sound plan.It's not just because he's my husbando.
>>33115704>>Disagree with Zhang Liao, you want to do more indirect attacks to keep your own numbers strongWe have 2 weeks. We can whittle down their numbers through any number of methods, and still have plenty of time to stage an assault.
>>33115704>>Disagree with Zhang Liao, you want to do more indirect attacks to keep your own numbers strong
>>33115704>>Agree with Zhang Liao and follow his planWhat information do we have from Fan Neng and is there anything more we can get out of him in regards to the rest of the southlands.As in, what are the numbers of the other garrisoned towns that aren't Wang Lang's 10,000?
>>33115704>Zhang Liao, indeed you are correct, however, I believe Wang Lang's advance to be opportune, I would like after we have dealt with Zhou Xin, to have our foot soldiers retreat to our own territories, but ambush the coming army of 10,000 with a fire attack, directly straight at their food supplies.>This will mean he will have little choice but to retreat in the face of starvation of his men>We will then lose the enemy in the hills as we retreat
>>33115704>Disagree with Zhang Liao, you want to do more indirect attacks to keep your own numbers strongIf we go with Zhang Liao's plans, we are not going to have enough troops to fend off Wang Lang.I think we have to go full Zhang Liao if we adopt direct assault. (i.e. retreat from Wang Lang)3 days of siege weapons on main camp. Send Fan Neng to get their terms of surrender. We'll follow Zhang Liao's advice if that doesn't work.
>>33115760Remember how time works in this quest dude. 2 weeks is going to go by in one QM post if we don't play things VERY specifically.
>>33115704>Agree with Zhang Liao and follow his planBut we should hightail it the fuck out of here for more breathing space and time to gather new levies.
>>33115704>>Agree with Zhang Liao and follow his planFrom the previous thread, we've already devastated enemy morale. Just because an army has numbers doesn't mean jack when less than half are willing to die for their lord.
>>33115787This sounds like a good idea, if risky
>>33115805So how do we do that? He's ignored our plans before.
>>33115704>> Agree with Zhang LiaoAll we need is to lure them away from the hilld and a quick victory will be easy
>>33115704>Disagree with Zhang Liao, you want to do more indirect attacks to keep your own numbers strongWe need to keep our troop count as high as possible so that we can effectively fight Wang Lang. Even proper strategy can falter before superior numbers, and we're no Jia Xu or Sima Yi.
>>33115787I like the idea. Lets see what they think.
>>33115741Raian writes in-character for the generals.As you can see by Lu Lingqi going full Lu Bu. As expected of the Lus. Zhang Liao is an intelligent general, but there's no guarantee that his advice is the right one. We can't just go "Raian is speaking through Zhang Liao" and call it a day.
>>33115787Can we suggest this plan to the council?I'm not Zhuge Liang or Pang Tong but it makes sense
So you guys realize zhang liao's plan gives up all initiative and gains we've accomplished since reaching this territory, right? It'll take 4 months, minimum, round trip time.
>>33115787Propose it, at least.
>>33115704>>Agree with Zhang Liao and follow his planReally we should be doing this the oldschool Chinese warfare way. Once we beat Zhou Xin we go AROUND Wang Lang army and take over his nearly empty garrison.
>>33115828Have everyone in 100% agreement, laying out an organized plan.But this is /tg/ so that's never going to happen, which is why we should take the safe option and not go bull at a gate into 10k troops.
>>33115704>Disagree with Zhang Liao, you want to do more indirect attacks to keep your own numbers strongFirst, we can afford more indirect attacks for 2 or three days, although anything past that wouldn't be worth it unless there is no water source in the hills. Also, ask Fan Neng about the geography around the area before committing to a plan. They may have food stores, but not necessarily water stores.
>>33115787This plan ignores the distances involved. If we send our troops back they'll be gone from the campaign, effectively.
>>33115862See that fire attack plan.We've heard the General is incompetent, if he stays out with no food that army's morale, and number, will crumble faster than casualties in an open battle.And if he goes back to his castle, morale will fall through the floor, and we can h e time to re-cooperate and gain forces.
>>33115862Good. More time for Wang's troops to stew in their indolence and bad morale.
Why don't we seend Zhang liao with some cavalry to raid the enemy? failing that maybe I few days later?
>>33115898Not really? We'll just follow the troops after all.
>>33115929>to have our foot soldiers retreat to our own territories,is a 2 month trip
>>33115903No the General is supposed to be somewhat competent the governor/lord is the Incompetent.
>>33115787Lets propose this, fire attacks are pretty good after all.
>>33115927>Zhang Liao and Song Xian kill what troops they can, though the hills make it slightly difficult for them to keep pursingRemember what terrains we are on.Also Gao Shun is our top cavalry commander, not Zhang Liao.
>>33115945Well yeah.This war is supposed to take something like a year and a half.>>33115954...They're the same person?
Oh boy, this thread is going to be great.The failure and butthurt will be wonderful.
>>33115704>>State you wish to hold your position at the hills after defeating Zhou Xin and fighting Wang LangAre you guys honestly suggesting we pack up and leave all the way back to our own territory and then come all the way back?That's going to take months and we'll lose every advantage we have.
>>33115954Zhou Xin is clearly more competent than Fan Neng. He chose a good defensive position since he was outnumbered 2 to 1.versus Fan Neng who went full Lu Bu when he was outnumbered 3 to 1 by us.
>>33115984I've already started drinking.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCLoNOYcVQU
>>33115704>>State you wish to hold your position at the hills after defeating Zhou Xin and fighting Wang Lang
Listen to Liao.Destroy this army, retreat back to our territory for resupply and recruitment, and return to fight Wang Lang.Fighting both the general and the governor one after the other in quick succession is a mistake. Wang Lang might be incompetent, but quantity has a quality of its own.
>>33115980Nope Zhou Xin is the General we are currently fighting, Wang lang is the Governor/lord.If we can break or kill Zhou Xin we weaken the Resistance during our Invasion/occupation plus the overall effectiveness of their Army.
>>33115992What advantage? Our all of troops? The surprise that we lost when Wang Lang started moving towards us?The supply advantage from that one village we have? What advantages?
>>33116012That's a fucking awful idea. We don't have the men or supplies. They could very easily surround and starve us out.
>>33116021It honestly depends on the quality of our army after the battle with Zhou Xin.If we have 4000 troops left? Sure. If we have 6000 troops with high morale? That might be a different story.What if Zhou Xin surrenders and we get more supply and troops without bloodshed? Honestly, I don't know why we are deciding right now on whether to retreat or hold out. It can be decided after we destroy Zhou Xin.
Zhou Xin is expecting Wang Lang's reinforcements.Let's play off that expection by feigning a withdrawal. Leave behind Zhang Liao and 1000 men to play rear guard. The enemy will leave their defensive position in order to pincer us. Once we're out of sight we'll send Linqi with a small force of heavy cavalry to go around and take their undefended camp. Then we can return in full force and crush them.
>>33116028Oh yeah.Well that's what I'm saying, defeat this general, so Wang Lang, the man in charge of the 10k army heading towards us is leading the troops
>>33116021This. We will easily be able to take Zhou Xin. But we will probably get some casualties and be down to about 5k men. Against 10k.We should deal a critical blow and kill off some of their troops / general here and now, then resupply, get some more troops and fight Wang Lang later.
>>33116037Advantages>High morale>2 to 1 numbers>5-6 six months of food>Few casualties >low fatigue
>>33116050We're deciding now because this threads timeframe skips months ahead between QM posts and we only have a two week window.
>>33116066We're talking about fighting Wang Lang.Who, BEFORE, the casualties of this battle, almost out numbers us 2 to 1.Who has higher food, less fatigue, and good morale.
>>33116045Nostalgia'd hard, thanks
>>33116066We also hold good defensive positions if we get Zhou Xin off the hills. Our troops are also combat veterans at this point whereas Wang Lang's army is untested. Do you guys remember what Fan Neng said? Wang Lang had specifically made peace with the barbarians so the South had been peaceful. His army is most likely inexperienced.
>>33116055We should axe Zhou Xin and get the fuck out, resupply and retroop before Wang Lang's superior numbers show up.Like Zhang Liao said.
>>33116095But we lose troops if we get him off the hills.And being a veteran isn't much if you're outnumbered 2 to 1.
>>33116090All three of those are major assumptions. The only thing we know is numbers. We aren't exactly short on food and they have to supply 10k troops. Our morale is almost certainly higher than theirs. Our troops are also at the lowest level of fatigue right now, and would have time to recoup if we take the hill within a week. Not taking a side, but you can't make arguments like that.
"I disagree," you reply with a shake of your head. "I want to preserve all the men I can, and meet Wang Lang's forces taking these hills as a position. Once we defeat Zhou Xin, I wish to set an ambush here and raid there supplies.""I... do not think that might be the best plan," Fan Neng interjects. "At least thinking that taking their supplies would defeat them. Lord Wang Lang has had peace for a number of years and has gathered a sizable granary. You would do better on focusing on whittling down his numbers..."Zhang Liao slightly frowns."General, perhaps you believe that we can defeat Wang Lang and easily take his head here. I do not think the chances of that are high. If he suffers defeat from our troops, he is likely to retreat back to Hui Ji and fortify his position. From thereon we would have to endure a siege. If you wish to defeat Wang Lang's army here, then we should retreat back to our territories after doing so and defend the lands we have conquered... Otherwise we may lose supplies and our retreat cut off if we do not take the city in quick time.""In essence," Gao Shun states. "Your plan may work but it carries risk. Will you still follow the plan?">Carry on with defeating Zhou Xin and fighting Wang Lang after>Defeat Zhou Xin and retreat back to your territories after
>>33116133They won't be fatigued due to not having a battle.Us taking the hills will cause our troops to be fatigued.And they own this damn province, they're taking food from fucking everyone.
>>33116133Wang Lang has better supplies by the fact that this is literally his home territory.We want to draw him out as far from his home base as we possibly can, stretch that supply line out.
>>33116158TWICE IN A ROWHES TOLD US WHAT TO DO>Defeat Zhou Xin and retreat back to your territories >Defeat Zhou Xin and retreat back to your territories after>Defeat Zhou Xin and retreat back to your territories afterFUCK.
>>33116101This guy gets what we need to do, Our smaller army is less of a logistics nightmare then Wang langs.>>33116090well if it's Wang lang we're talking about>less logistics required when travelling>more veterans than the 10k army that hasn't seen much if any combat>smaller numbers= faster movement>Smaller numbers also equals less food consumption>have crushed 4000 with less 100 casualties.
>>33116158>>Defeat Zhou Xin and retreat back to your territories afterIn the face of opposition, I guess this will do.
>>33116158>>Defeat Zhou Xin and retreat back to your territories afterListen to Zhang Liao.
>>33116158>Defeat Zhou Xin and retreat back to your territories afterNot sure you understood the fire attack plan, but whatever.
>>33116158>>Carry on with defeating Zhou Xin and fighting Wang Lang afterWe can take him with some preparatory skirmishing and a ploy or two.
>>33116158>>Defeat Zhou Xin and retreat back to your territories afterThat way if he tries to run we got time to get to him.
>>33116158>Defeat Zhou Xin and retreat back to your territories afterlets not kid ourselves this will end in a protracted campaign, but with Zhou Xin out of the way it will be slightly easier
>>33116177Calm your pants, this is why we have the war meetings so that they can provide advice. I wasn't persuaded until they gave their reasoning. Since the two most competent generals and the local general gave their reasons, I'm switching to the retreat camp.
>>33116196Our last fire attack only killed 500, and we still lost men. I really don't know what you want to happen. You can't just yell FIRE ATTACK and expect shit to work out.
>>33116158>Defeat Zhou Xin and retreat back to your territoriesWith those kind of numbers, we're still better off pulling out after taking Zhou Xin's head or obtaining his surrender.
>>331161252-1 is by no means insurmounrable. With the hills we the advantage in terrain, with our victories we have the advantage in morale; on top of that our officers are vastly superior and we have all the supplies we need
>>33116158>>Defeat Zhou Xin then immediately move to take Wang Langs city before he returns. Let do this like proper strategist.
>>33116213People in the thread were saying the exact same shit and everyone was ignoring that in favor of "fire attack!" and "wang lang is incompetent, so us attacking with 2:1 odds is fine!"I can see why hes salty.
>>33116158Raian, the fire plan was as follows.All but the cavalry retreat, AFTER, we had defeated Zhou Xin, that is.When Wang Lang arrives, the cavalry take a quick fire attack on their supplies, and then they follow the main forces.It wasn't suggesting we stay here and not kill Zhou Xin, nor taking a position in the hills.
>>33116158>Defeat Zhou Xin and retreat back to your territories after."We should at the very least, use the hills as an ambush point for Wang Lang after defeating Zhou Xin. Have a small contingent cover our rear by way of traps, arrows, and fire before meeting up with the rest of our army."
>>33116266We have cavalry, not cavalry archers. Harassment tactics when outnumbered as heavily as they'd be are a bad idea.
>>33116158Let's put off the decision on fighting Wang Lang until we see how we do against Zhou Xin.
>>33116217It wasn't just shouting that.It was a plan based around an ambush, not hiding in the hills for extended periods of time for little reason and facing huge odds.It's also less for casualties, and more so they can't pursue, and will have their morale damaged.
>>33116158>>Defeat Zhou Xin and retreat back to your territories after
>>33116307Then lets wait until we fight Zhou Xin and see what we can do from there.
>>33116255What's the point? They are not going to run out of food. Fan Neng just confirmed that point. I think it's risky for minimal gains.
>>33116290Calvary archers aren't really needed though, although they're ideal. Can't they leave the horses in a nearby area, take the potshots, and in the confusion, retreat?
>>33116371They will run out of food for that moment.Look at it this way.Army holds 50 food.Base holds 1000.Army goes forwards by taking 50 food from the base.If that 50 food is gone, it has to go back to the base to refill.
>>33116377All we need to do is charge on the supply regiment with cavalry and drop torches, not too hard
>>33116405He also controls the vast majority of southern territories, so resupplying aint no big deal for him. For us on the other hand, since we literally conquered one town before deciding to fight the big boss, attrition won't work unless we play things smart.
>>33116405That food is not static though. Its more like 50 food with you, 50 food on its way to you, 950 food in storage.
>>33116158Seriously, I feel like when I'm not watching the thread, the most stupid decisions get made..>Defeat Zhou Xin and retreat back to your territories.
>>33116405Okay, so let's discount the fact that they are unlikely to leave their supplies unguarded or the likelihood that they'll store supplies for 10,000 men in one location, or the likelihood the fire attack will destroy enough supplies to prevent an orderly retreat. How does this cut off their supply line? The entire region is the supply line. He can always requisition food from a local city because he's the Governor. This puts the cavalry, our most valuable troops, at risk for insignificant gains.
>>33116480That's because you're obviously a tactical genius, and mere mortals like us can't keep up.
>>33116488We want to batter this guy's morale as much as possible. So maybe a terror attack might be better than a hit on the supply depots.
I think we should apologise for being so inexperienced.I mean, we're like 19/20 now aren't we?
>>33116563And this is our third war. So no, you're a faggot.
>>33116563While I agree with you, I don't know how ancient china would react. Would it make us look weak or would we be praised for being humble?
>>33116563Jesus Christ, you don't apologize for asking advice from your officers when you are the commanding general.You don't apologize at a war council as a commanding officer unless you want to instantly lose the respect of your peers. This isn't a team project at your university.
>>33116583>First "war">Got our shit slapped>Second "War">Cheng Gong did fucking everything, and Lu Bu did the rest>Third War>We're doing okay
You consent after Zhang Liao and Gao Shun put in their advice."Then so be it. We shall defeat Zhou Xin, and retreat after. I still wish to leave some men here so that we may ambush Wang Lang's troops. The rest of the men shall retreat, while the cavalry here shall take some of the enemy down."Zhang Liao rubs his chin."As you command general. We can see what we can do once Zhou Xin is defeated."The war council comes to an end after that, and you and the other generals exit the tent. You take a glance at the enemy position. The enemy camps are lightly defended with only a few torches lit. Slightly strange, since they just suffered a small defeat. Perhaps they are planning something?>Go for a night raid attack with some elite force>Order a tight defense of the campRoll 1d100. Best of first three or avg of first three depending on choice.
>>3311656320.No point apologizing yet. We fucked up but so long as we follow their advice and crush this guy before bailing we should be fine. Outright ignoring them would of been a bad idea though.Why we ignored him in the first place, especially since he could (perhaps its still on the cards) have been one of our top bro commanders and made the Peach Garden Oath: Lu Bu Edition with us i don't know.
>>33116563we are 20 But until now have mad War our life.
Rolled 2>>33116626>Order a tight defense of the camp
Rolled 40>>33116626>>Order a tight defense of the camp
>>33116626>Order a tight defense of the campIt's more than likely they are a) looking to pay us back for the fire attack & b) expecting more of the same.
Rolled 62>>33116626>Go for a night raid attack with some elite force.I'm gonna say best of first three.
Rolled 4>>33116626>>Go for a night raid attack with some elite force
Rolled 34>>33116626>>Order a tight defense of the camp
Rolled 32>>33116626Night attack
Rolled 76>>33116626>Go for a night raid attack with some elite force
Rolled 63>>33116667also dice
>>33116626>>Order a tight defense of the campoh god.
>>33116626>>Order a tight defense of the campIf we go our now well find an empty camp and come back to seeing our camp burning down.
>>33116647>>33116658>>33116666Oh god we're fucked.
Guys.Why not both?
These rolls are shit. What happened to this thread and 90's?
Rolled 54>>33116694>>33116680>>33116669>>33116668>Expecting a night attack to work>When we pulled off a fire attack on the first dayreally?>Order a tight defense of the camp
Rolled 76>>33116626Night raid.
>>33116717Because reasons. Remember this is the quest where we can't talk to more than one person ever 3 months.
>>33116626>Order a tight defense of the campIt's probably an ambush or a night raid on their end. Either way, do not try for a night attack.
>>33116711We've got higher stats than him, and we seem to be taking the defensive option, so I think we'll be okay
Rolled 75>>33116632I didn't know that engaging in a discussion of ideas and plans with our top generals constituted a fuck-up.A fuck-up is implementing a bad plan, a discussion is withdrawing a bad plan and agreeing that their ideas had merit. Why are we so quick to be so hard on ourselves? This is a normal part of decision making. Do you guys wilt at meetings when someone points out flaws in your plan? No, you acknowledge that their ideas have merit and then change your plan accordingly. There's no apologies to be had.
>>33116626>Order a tight defense of the camp.The enemy is going to be desperate after their last defeat. We should play it safe here. Maybe plan an ambush for them?
>>33116739If we do go on the offensive (I voted for defense), i suggest we tell our remaining troops to prepare the defenses.
>>33116739Exactly, they won't expect another attack so soon.
>>33116626>>Order a tight defense of the camp
>>33116770It's a fuck up socially. Us having Linqui be our general turned into a negative social interaction, so i'd assume flat out disagreeing, then flip flopping in front of our generals is a negative social interaction.
>>33116626Order a tight defense of the camp. They're either going to raid us or prepping an ambush for our raid that they're expecting. Don't be stupid guys. I've watched the show.
Rolled 84>>33116780But they will hell they probably think we have a penchant for such tactics.
>>33116797>projecting this hardNot everyone hates themselves, anon.
>>33116770>>33116797Also, i agree entirely, i don't like the fact we have to walk on eggshells when talking to our supposed friends and confidants, but that's apparently how it goes, so we have to treat shit right.
>>33116780Really? That's some Zapp Brannigan logic.
Rolled 45>>33116797A social fuck up in terms of a war council would be us dismissing their advice completely and going "Here's what we're doing. Shut up and don't say anything, we're doing it period."We heeded their advice and are going to act upon it, that's not a fuck up.
>>33116797Well, actually we completely over thought that part, as stated by Raian, If it was given less thought we'd have had no repercussions.
>>33116797>so i'd assume flat out disagreeing, then flip flopping in front of our generals is a negative social interaction.Or it just makes us look reasonable to fair arguments.It was also a good way to keep the others from thinking we'll just blindly accept any plan based on personality."My way or the high, no compromise" is not the same thing as good, strong leadership.
>>33116833YOU WIN AGAIN GRAVITY!
>>33116797I really hope this isn't how you see social interactions in real life. >Zhang Liao, deputy proposes a plan>We disagree and propose a plan>Fan Neng and Zhang Liao indicate the flaws of our plan>Gao Shen points out the merits and risks of our planJesus Christ, this is how healthy and productive war councils and meetings work. There's literally no fuck-up here.
Guys we just came across as a bit zealous and overconfident, and even then it had some merit, this sort of thing should be expected from a 20 year old new commander.
>>33116626>>33116626>order a tight defense of the camp
>>33116881Guess i'm just salty because i was one of the people saying fighting Wang Lang was stupid from the start.
>>33116888>we're the ones that need to be reigned in rather than Lu Bufeels good, man.
>>33116902And you're still wrong. So there's that.
>>33116888We came off as neither zealous or overconfident.Do you think the words "I disagree" constitutes overconfidence and cockiness? Because that's literally the only words we used before proposing our plan.Did we call their plan stupid? Did we mock it? Did we call Zhang Liao a coward for proposing his plan? If so, then yes, that's overzealous and overconfident.
>>33116951I meant at the start with the proposal of the plan.After that we conceded due to factors we didn't know about and strategic reason.
>>33116942How so? Everyone's apparently on board with doing exactly what i was saying at the start of the thread, i.e. not engaging Wang Lang, attacking Zhou Xin, then retreating to bolster our troops and supplies.I just don't need the QM flat out telling us through two generals that attacking multiple targets, the second one likely having 2:1 odds is a bad idea.
>>33116978Those generals said it was a high risk, high return plan, not stupid. You're stupid.
Rolled 59>>33116978wat.... m8 thats what we're doing.
>>33116972Really? Proposing a plan at a war meeting is being overconfident and zealous now? When we are the commanding officer? I guess we should sit through meetings and tweedle our thumbs. There's nothing wrong with proposing plans so long as we were receptive to corrective information. We did literally nothing wrong in the end, don't worry about it.
>>33117012This. Our situation is completely different from Chang An, but retreating minimizes risk so it's not terrible by any means.
>>33116978So you want to say it's a bad idea, but don't like it when someone else says it's a bad idea? That's rather stupid in and of itself.Still, the idea is a solid plan that we should heed regardless.
You organize a tight defense of the camp, and order all the troops to be on high alert, seeing something strange about the enemy. As night comes, you find out that the enemy was planning a night raid on your camp. Unfortunately, your defenses were too strict and the enemy retreated before taking any action when they saw your camp. A few trap openings and baits may have given an opportune time to take some enemy down. Either way, you get a night's sleep once you confirm things are safe. The next day comes, and you must organize an attack once again.>Make brisk charge attacks against the enemy>Focus on staying back and attacking with your ranged weapons>others, write-ins, etc>Troops: 6350>Equipment: 2000 horses, 5 Catapults, 3 Ballista, 3 Siege Rams>Food: 2700>Morale: High>Fatigue: Slight
>>33117012>"General, perhaps you believe that we can defeat Wang Lang and easily take his head here. I do not think the chances of that are high. If he suffers defeat from our troops, he is likely to retreat back to Hui Ji and fortify his position. From thereon we would have to endure a siege. If you wish to defeat Wang Lang's army here, then we should retreat back to our territories after doing so and defend the lands we have conquered... Otherwise we may lose supplies and our retreat cut off if we do not take the city in quick time."Tl;dr, huge risk, huge reward.Huge, huge, risk.
>>33117021And at the start of this thread the general consensus (as seen here >>33116158) was to disagree with Zhang Liao and attack Wang Lang.But it took the QM telling everyone else, both in that post and in the next one, that it was a bad idea, so now everyone's all aboard the common sense train.
>>33117048>Make brisk charge attacks against the enemyLet's gauge their defenses and try to form a plan for a quick end to this issue.
>>33117048>>Focus on staying back and attacking with your ranged weapons>others, write-ins, etcHave Fan Neng negotiate a surrender after bombardment. Surely, their morale can't be too high.
>>33117061>common senseNo, we've just learned that not following the QM's path to victory leads to horrible things happening.
Rolled 10>>33117048>others, write-ins, etcFlanking Maneuvers Zhang liao on one side, Linqi leading the other
>>33117048>Bring in Fan Neng to ask about any advantages >Ask Zhang Liao about using a pincer attack
>>33117079Sounds like common sense to me.
>>33117048Zhou Xin is expecting Wang Lang's reinforcements. Let's play off that expectation by feigning a withdrawal. Leave behind Zhang Liao and 1000 men to play rear guard. The enemy will leave their defensive position in order to pincer us. Once we're out of sight we'll send Linqi with a small force of heavy cavalry to go around and take their undefended camp. Then we can return in full force and crush them.
>>33117107Brown nosing is indeed common.
>>33117048Make a brisk attack.Let's not prolong this.
>>33117120Wang Lang is still atleast a week away.
>>33117048>>33117074>ThisAlso ask Fan Neng about the geography, specifically water sources and the weather here.
>>33117048>>Make brisk charge attacks against the enemyWe're apparently retreating anyway so preserving our forces is now secondary to winning quickly.
>>33117048focus on stay back and attacking with your ranged weaponsthis is day 2 we can spend a couple days hitting their position
>>33117133In that case, we can spend three days bombarding the enemy first.
Rolled 74>>33117128Brisk attacks against Hills and/or fortified positions go badly
Guys.Lets do another duel, it doesn't take any time and the enemy will lose morale.
>>33117144He's two weeks away and time is of secondary issue if we are retreating instead of defending the hills. Losing soldiers needlessly is always a thing to be avoided.
>>33117120That sounds overly complicated.Good strategy is not usually that complicated.People in this thread keep thinking up overly complicated plans that wouldn't work in real life.This is not a modern army that can clearly co-ordinate over hundreds of miles.This is antiquity China.Most of the 'brilliant' stratagems of the ancient world weren't really all that complicated.
>>33117048>Focus on staying back and attacking with your ranged weaponsThey'll be expecting a heavy attack after their failed night raid.
>>33117048>>Focus on staying back and attacking with your ranged weapons>>others, write-ins, etcHavw lingqi go up and goad them into a duel.They're cowards, tortises. Dont even dare attack a woman in the dead of the night. Why dont they go home and wear skirts instead.
Rolled 12>>33117175May be talking out of my ass but I think last turn they refused our challenge
>>33117048>>Focus on staying back and attacking with your ranged weapons
>>33117048focus on staying back and attacking with your ranged weapons
>>33117048> Set up the catapults to bombard the enemy position. Cavalry to pick off those who abandon their position.A solid day of bombardment should soften them up for an attack tonight.We can then clean them up and mosy on off without having spent more than two days total.
>>33117204It hurts their morale, so why not do it again?Following up with a surrender message would work well
>>33117194This is not complicated. Zhang Liao just needs to hold is position, Lu Linqi just needs to go from point A to point B. No coordination required.
>>33117204They did but after an aborted attack and suffered losses, they may be goaded into one. Also the morale loss at refusing to answer the challenge of a girl would be quite significant.
Guys we need to leave early, if we stay here doing this too much Wang Lang's vanguard will arrive, and not to mention, we'll have his 10k army on our ass all the way to our own lands
>>33117048Insult the everliving shit out of them.In fact, take a token force of 500 and have them sit out of arrow range and hurl insults at the enemy. At the same time, have an additional 1000 hidden behind a hill or in a forest awaiting a gong-alert-signal to sweep into the enemy's camp if said enemy takes the bait.Oh and have the 500 men picnic and leisure on top of insulting the enemy camp.
>>33117258Jesus, it's been 2 days. Out of 2 weeks. I'd say we can bombard 3 days before launching an assault. Soften up their position, take less losses, perhaps even induce surrender. A smaller army can move faster as well.
>>33117239It is complicated as it requires a lot of moving parts and assumes actions on the part of the opponent.Who says they would immediately pursue and not smell an attack? Who says Zhang Liao would be able to maintain his position, or that Lu Linqi wouldn't be overwhelmed by a reserve unit? How is Zhang Liao meant to communicate the optimum time of attack to Linqi? What exact schedule do you think the enemy will be working on? Can you see the future?You make assumptions about the enemy, formulating plots on no real basis.
>>33117048>>Make brisk charge attacks against the enemy
>>33117291We also know that Zhou Xin is a cautious general and probably knows reinforcements are coming. He's unlikely to move his army in pursuit when he has a defensive position and knows he's outnumbered over 2 to 1. So yeah, I don't think that plan's going to work.
Rolled 94>>33117290Ideally, we need to crush them in a week.We dont want them to be right on our heels as we retreat
>>33117048http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty-Six_StratagemsRecommended reading for all you arm-chair generals. This ain't meta knowledge since every general, tactician, and strategist would be familiar with these ploys.
>>33117048>Focus on staying back and attacking with your ranged weapons.If possible taunt them. Siege them and lower their morale. They're not in a good position right now and only two days have passed so far. So far none of their plans have worked so we can't give them any sort of small victories.
>>33117318We've been lugging catapults and siege rams this whole way, how hard is it to start lugging some rocks at them for a few days and pick them off if they try to retreat.They can't fight us at siege range.We can.This is a clear advantage we have on them, yet no one wants to use the catapults.
>>33117363What the fuck do you think ranged weapons mean?
>>33117374Bow and Arrows.
>>33117048Siege them for just a few days, then launch an attack.
>>33117386Yeah, I'm fairly sure that staying back attacking with ranged weapons means using ranged weapons like catapults and ballistas and not just bows and arrows.Why would you think it's just bows and arrows? Do catapults attack at melee range now?
>>33117445I guess RTS games have taught me to classify Catapults and Trebuchets as Siege weapons and Bow&Arrow / Guns as Ranged weapons.Also, our Siege weapons do include 'Siege Rams' which are effectively Siege Melee weapons.
>>33117496Siege Weapons and Ranged Weapons are not mutually exclusive classifications, they can belong to both categories.
You order your catapults to fire upon the enemy camps. Because of the hills and the enemy taking cover, the bombardment takes only little effect. Some of the enemy archers move slightly out to fire their arrows, and your men and theirs exchange volleys. All in all, you kill about 200 of their men by the end of the day before you retire your soldiers to rest.The next day comes. What do you do?>Keep up the ranged bombardment (Choose how many days till)>Go on the frontal attack (Choose if you just want to go one day, or until the enemy is beaten)Roll 1d100.>Troops: 6300>Equipment: 2000 horses, 5 Catapults, 3 Ballista, 3 Siege Rams>Food: 2700>Morale: Average>Fatigue: Slight
Rolled 50>>33117548>>Go on the frontal attack (Choose if you just want to go one day, or until the enemy is beaten)>Until beaten
Rolled 38>>33117548>>Go on the frontal attack (Choose if you just want to go one day, or until the enemy is beaten)Till defeat
Rolled 72>>33117548>Go on the frontal attack (until the enemy is beaten)
Rolled 33>>33117548>>Go on the frontal attack (Choose if you just want to go one day, or until the enemy is beaten)so now we know he is just waiting it out, I say go for broke.
>>33117548>Challenge to duel >Ask to surrender >Ask Zhang Liao what do
Rolled 58>>33117548>>Keep up the ranged bombardment (Choose how many days till)A second day of bombardment
>>33117574Were you really in such a rush to roll that you didn't even vote on the attack option?
Can everyone please stop rolling so suddenly?
>>33117548I say we siege for like three days and then go for a frontal assault on the fourth. We have enough time to thin down their forces a bit and be at more of an advantage when we charge in. After we charge we have a weak to retreat.
>>33117548>>Frontal attack for a dayI don't see what we gain by choosing to go until victory. We're still attacking for a day either way, but this let's us evaluate the first results.
Rolled 100>>33117548>>Keep up the ranged bombardment (Choose how many days till)1 day
>>33117627Yeah, but our moral drops too.
Rolled 89>>33117645Nice roll
>>33117660On the 7th roll? Yeah, nah.
>>33117640This.Lets not go until victory, because we could do a really shitty move if we do
>>33117627Keep in mind we need to start putting distance between ourselves and Wang Lang before he shows up. It's difficult to make an orderly retreat when the enemies right in front of you.
Rolled 38>>33117548Let's go for another day of ranged.
>>33117548>>33117627I guess I should specify my vote>>Keep up the Ranged Bombardment(3 days)>>Frontal attack(1 Day: After bombardment)
>>33117645Welp. Our fire rains down from the heavens!
>>33117548>>Go on the frontal attack (Until beaten)
Rolled 45>>33117645Shoot 'em.
>>33117548keep up the ranged bombardment for two more days then make the frontal assault
Rolled 7>>33117645>ARCHERS UNLEASH HELL!
>>33117735Yeah I'll back this.
>>33117691>>33117739He takes the first three rolls regardless of the vote.
>>33117760Really? I'd like a clarification on this point.
>>33117548>>33117548By bombarding a camp situated on defendable hill terrain, we cede the initiative to the enemy. Ranged attacks have been stated to be ineffective against the defendable terrain the camp is situated on.Therefore, gentlemen. I propose that we initiate a pincer attack early morning before the enemy eats their breakfast.
Rolled 82Obviously all we need to do is offer them the kettle
>>33117781We just got the report that the ranged attack did little. We've already decided we need to leave before Wang Lang arrives. Why on earth are we waiting?
>>33117781Read the archives
Charge attack till beaten is winning, but people want to still bombard.1 day of bombarding, then charge until beaten? If yes, then roll 1d100 for charge attack. The 50 already rolled will be for ranged.
>>33117782>ineffective>killed 10% of their forcesnigger what?
>>33117787You LUNATIC! How dare you suggest that we offer them our Kettle!?
Rolled 62>>33117548>>Go on the frontal attack (Choose if you just want to go one day, or until the enemy is beaten)Kill em all.Lets not waste time
>>33117794Because last time we attacked a well defended position we got turbofucked. So people are scared, even with the greater numbers.
Rolled 76>>33117803Here we go
Rolled 42>>33117803Fine, just 1 day.
Rolled 42>>33117803Definitely yes.
>>33117781>>33117799Rather than reading the archives, it should be in the pastebin so everyone has easy access.
Rolled 50>>33117804Let chaaaaaarge
>>33117548>>Go on the frontal attack (Choose if you just want to go one day, or until the enemy is beaten)One day.
>>33117841Sure, it should be in the pastebin, but people shouldn't be playing without reading the archives first.
Rolled 38>>33117824>>33117827>>33117834Urgh.Why that 28...
>>33117866>what is probabilityyou people need to take statistics courses.
>>33117866Better hope that ranged bombardment got us to best of 3 situation and not average of rolls.
>>33117866Literally always happens when we roll averages. Theres usually 2 great rolls and then one really shitty one.
>>33117803I wanted to charge for a little longer but I'm good with this
Rolled 96>>33117879OH wait.You're saying we cant complain about tg dice now?One of the great questing pasttimes?
>>33117890Don't know how you can charge longer than that.
>>33117899>>33117890Wups I meant siege for longer
>>331179111 day is a good compromise since most people want to charge right away.
Rolled 68>>33117925Gave us a better assault roll too.Was for the best
So it seems likely that Wang Lang is going to pursue us. Where should we be leading him?
>Waiting for Raian to write our demise.gif
>>33118250Somewhere fortified and secure.
Rolled 51>>33118250To the city we captured.
You order the bombardment of the enemy once again. As before, the bombardment does not do much against the hilly positions of the enemy and the fact that the enemy numbers have been lowered and spread. But it does soften up the defenses for you to make a full-scale attack the next day.You take the center forces with Song Xian supporting you, while Zhang Liao and Lingqi attack from the sides. Gao Shun takes the cavalry and makes charges in enemy lines where he can, though it is slightly difficult due to the terrain. The first day results in ground taken from the enemy forces and a good victory. On the second day, you order up another attack. With the enemy losing ground and being defeated in numerous skirmishes, their morale starts to run low. After a few hours of fierce attacks, Zhou Xin decides to give up his position finally and retreats with a hundred men, leaving the others to fight and fend your forces off. You quickly take the remaining enemy positions."Bah," Lingqi states taking her blade off of a dead soldier she just killed. "It should have been like this from the start.""We were likely to have taken more casualties, the first few days of testing the enemy and weakening their defenses may have been arguably been better," Zhang Liao replies. Some of the soldiers cheer having won their victory.>Troops: 5800>Equipment: 1900 horses, 5 Catapults, 3 Ballista, 3 Siege Rams>Food: 2555>Morale: Above Average>Fatigue: MediumWith the hills taken, it comes down now to whether you follow suit with the plans you made before or not. You stated you would retreat back to your territories after, and was thinking of putting an ambush with the cavalry here. Wang Lang's army still has a week to come. What do you do?>Retreat your forces>Leave an ambush with [choose officer] leading it and retreat>Decide to stay and fight hereRoll 1d100
>>33118250We should ask the guy who we converted to our side if there is a dam nearby, flooding the enemy works like fuck, but aside from that we should go back to the garrison or the village.
Rolled 42>>33118285>>Retreat your forces
>>33118285>Ask Nang if there is a dam anything else nearby
Rolled 75>>33118285>>Decide to stay and fight hereBooby trap everything. Firebombs EVERYWHERE.
Rolled 9>>33118285Crap we didn't kill him>Retreat your forces
>>33118285Think before you post friends.
>>33118325This.But otherwise retreat.
Rolled 29>>33118285>Retreat your forcesLet's fall back to a position of strength.
>>33118285>Retreat your forcesIf we had captured or killed Zhou Xin I'd be inclined to fight but since he can meet up with the main force they'll have a competent commander.
>>33118285>>Decide to stay and fight hereHe's not going to have the full 10k. Probably 8k. We'll have defensive positions, good morale and plenty of supplies. We can do this.
>>33118285>>Retreat your forcesWe've been maintaining a pretty constant 4-1 casualty ratio. Pretty successful so far.
Rolled 62>>33118285>>Retreat your forces>>Leave an ambush with [choose officer] leading it and retreatOur infantry will retreat to our territory. Zhang liao will lead.We will remain with our mounted troops along with gao shun.Together, we will ambush and stall yhe enemy.
>>33118285>Retreat your forcesZhou Xin's survived to lead Wang Lang's army, don't take any major risks for small gains.
>>33118325This.If there's a dam in an opportune place we should use it, we could claim victory with that sort of shit
>>33118285>>Retreat your forces
>>33118352They also have a competent general leading them now. Which was one of the few things we had going for us in the fight against Wang Lang.We should retreat, gather more forces and supplies, annex more towns, get more troops, then fight.
>>33118285Retreat, leave Gao Shun to ambush with a force of five hundred or so.We must stay with the main army. Don't join the ambushers.
>>33118325Supporting this.Opening a dam is what killed Guan Yu, imagine what it would be like against such incompetence?
>>33118285>>AmbushLet's lead the ambush along with Gao Shun, and have Linqi lead the retreat, as we've known her longest.
Rolled 6>>33118375Unlikely Zhou Xin is a cautious general and we've shown that we know what we're doing.
>>33118409>Let's lead the ambush>>33118363It's completely retarded for the over all commander to be party of a small team of ambushers.
Rolled 79>>33118285>>Retreat your forcesZhou xin is alive?Fall back.
>>33118285>>33118325Follow the suggestion, if not, build one with 500 men since we have a week or so before their main force gets there.
Rolled 75>>33118413Whoops.I was going to say that even if Zhou saw it coming it wouldn't help, since he'd have to go around the flood-area, which means we'll still have a place to escape from
>>33118285>>Retreat your forcesI'm tempted to leave Gao Shun because muh ambushers, muh ravages of time, but no. They still have a week before they arrive, better to just leave since they won't pursue us in time.
>>33118285>RetreatWe've accomplished enough from deep-striking enemy territory. Not only have we probed the enemy defenses, we've also gained valuable intel in the form of a new officer among our ranks.We still gave the enemy a bloody nose and there is no shame in retreating after a string of victories.
>>33118454Building one would take far more than a week, and a lot more lumber than we have
I think an ambush is a bad idea, Wang Lang may have fallen for it but Zhou Xin has shown himself to be incredibly cautious.
Rolled 46>>33118433Our mounted unit is 1900 strong. I see no way how thats a small party. Whats more the ambush is going to require a hard hit to maximise effect before it retreats. Taking direct command of the cavalry, to maximise their effect and also show to the troops left behind that they are not abandoned, makes sense.
>>33118285>Retreat your forces.We need to get out before Wang Lang gets here and rest up for the upcoming battle. I feel like leaving an ambush is going to get an officer killed.
>>33118457yeah but it would still be safer to retreat restock and gain a few fresh levies before taking on Zhou & a 6-10k army.remember he held that hill with 2500 troops now Imagine what he can do with up to 10k
>>33118325This, but if there's no dam we retreat
>>33118485You are supreme commander, and you would be undercutting whoever you name (Gao Shun's) authority by accompanying him.Not only that you look like an individual more concerned with personal glory than leading an army.You have officers for a reason. Delegate this shit. You have more important tasks to attend to, preparing for the actual battle rather than being involved in a delaying action.
>>33118515A flood would take out at least 5000, even with a properly fortified castle a flood attack can best the best of defenders.See how Guan Yu died to know the power of flood attacks, it's serious shit.
>>33118485Furthermore, as the overall commander we have a very good reason for wanting to see Wang Lang's army personally.
I wonder if Wang Lang still has Yu Fan as his adviser and He Qin as a general. If we have the chance, I'd love to capture and recruit both of them
>>33118550Uh, He Qi, not He Qin.
Didn't Wang Lang hide in his castle when Sun Ce did what we're doing?
>>33118539Zhou Xin is a cautious general he's not likely to fall for the ploy
>>33118542All that says to your officers is that you don't trust them to perform a task without your direct oversight.That's poor form and risks your own neck needlessly.
>>33118578Guan Yu, ordered by Zhuge Liang, mister 100 Intelligence, fell for that.Zhou wouldn't even think of using it, or it being used against him.
>>33118542But on second thought, we'd have to be away from the army for more than a week. That's too long. Let's let Gao Shun handle it alone.
>>33118609and pray tell how you know that for certain?
Guys Guan Yu used the flood attack against Wei, not the other way around.
>>33118648How do you know for certain that he would have thought of us using it?And mainly because flood attacks were very rare back then, fire was ten times more common, that and we don't know the terrain, and he doesn't know we have Nang on our side
>>33118609You argument is flawed.Zhuge Liang wasn't anywhere close to Jing province at the time. Guan Yu was also not know to a cautious and prudent general.
>>33118672Shh, they think Dynasty Warriors is canon.
Destroying dams is usually a bad idea since it will piss the locals off.
>>33118539>>33118672Guan Yu only used a flood attack in Romance, in Records I believe it was a natural flood.The flood also backfired on Guan Yu because he thought Fancheng would fall quickly because of the flood. It didn't.
>>33118797Indeed, Cao Ren noted this as evidence of Shu's hypocracy.
Breaking a dam doesn't mean that a flood attack will automatically succeed anyway.
>>33118873Yup. Unless the previous season has been excessively rainy, the likelihood of a flood strategy succeeding is exceedingly low.Then there's pissing off the locals. You never, ever piss off the local peasant population.
You decide to follow suit with the original plane and simply retreat before Wang Lang arrives and manages to pursue you. Before you leave, you ask if there are there any dams around the area to flood the enemy.Fan Neng blinks a few times."Well... This area is away from the rivers, so no. However, there are numerous farmlands tended near rivers back at the territory you did not capture... If you so want, you can attempt your ploys there. Though I do not think the people will appreciate their farmlands destroyed."You nod at the information and begin the orderly retreat. Song Xian as typical takes some of the enemy supplies and is content, while Zhang Liao and Gao Shun follow orders as normal. Lingqi seems slightly discontent at the large march back home, but even she knows it is proper strategy as of now.Your forces quickly travel back to your conquered lands. In about a month's time, you arrive back near the town you first conquered. Wang Lang's army is large and slow, and he is recuperating lost soldiers and men, so the other generals predict it will be a month before he arrives. Supplies from Yan Jun and Jian Ye city arrive after the season's harvests, though it is small. He is supplying both yours and Lu Bu's forces after all.>Troops: 5800>Equipment: 1900 horses, 5 Catapults, 3 Ballista, 3 Siege Rams>Food: 2175>Morale: Medium>Fatigue: Above AverageWhat do you plan to do? You need to choose whether to take some territory as to gain more ground against Wang Lang's eventual force and building better supply lines, gather more troops, or govern the people for some popularity.>Govern the people for some time and let your troops rest (Choose how many days)>Focus on gathering volunteers for some time and let your troops rest (Choose how many days)>Conquer some territories (Choose how many days, 20% conquered so far)
>>33118904>>Focus on gathering volunteers for some time and let your troops restFor 10 days.
>>33118904>>Focus on gathering volunteers for some time and let your troops rest (Choose how many days)
>>33118904>Focus on gathering volunteers for some time and let your troops rest (Choose how many days)14 days, also gather some supplies.
>>33118904>>Govern the people for some time and let your troops rest (Choose how many days) Seven Days>>Focus on gathering volunteers for some time and let your troops rest (Choose how many days) Seven Days>>Conquer some territories (Choose how many days, 20% conquered so far) Seven Days
>>33118904>>Focus on gathering volunteers for some time and let your troops rest (Choose how many days)I'd say for about a week.
>>331189532 weeks for clarification
>>33118904>>Conquer some territories (Choose how many days, 20% conquered so farLets go 20 days on this with 5 days getting volunteersFood ain't gonna last long
Let's try that again.>>33118904>>33118968>>Govern the people for some time and let your troops rest (Choose how many days) 7 Days>>Focus on gathering volunteers for some time and let your troops rest (Choose how many days) 7 Days>>Conquer some territories (Choose how many days, 20% conquered so far) 7 Days
>>33118990That sounds reasonable.
>>33118904>>Conquer some territories (Choose how many days, 20% conquered so far)10 days>Focus on gathering volunteers for some time and let your troops rest (Choose how many days)14 days
>>33118904>>Govern the people for some time and let your troops rest (Choose how many days)2 days
>>33118904Going with >>33118990
>>33118968This.Although we can govern the people and recruit troops at the same time.
>>33118990Going with this. It's a good time management until the enemy's arrival.
>>33118904Well now I'm glad we didn't go with the long siege.>>Conquer some territories (Four days)>>Govern the people for some time and let your troops rest (Five days)>>Focus on gathering volunteers for some time and let your troops rest(Rest of the days)Doesn't have to be the exact day count but I feel like that we do those things in that order we'd be good. We can establish some territory then get the people to like us a bit more. After we get the people to like us we'd get more recruits to join the army.
>>33118990Supporting this, but >>33119047 has a point.Lets just have 7 days of recruiting and governing. Or 15 days of both
Rolled 55i would just like to add then we need to spend some time governing the people of this city so then we have some popular support when the siege comes.They could easily open the gates or do mischief.
>>33118990Shouldn't we conquer first, then govern, rest and gather volunteers to maximize the amount of potential volunteers we can recieve?
>>33118990>>33118968>>33119004>>33119027>>33119047>>33119054>>33119063>>33119114How about:First 7 days: Gather volunteers and let your troops rest.Second 7 days: Conquer some territories so your recruits can get some experience.Third 7 days: Govern and let your army rest for the fight against Wang Lang
>>33119067Do we want them to siege us? It might be better to keep our army mobile and find a good defensive position outside of the city. We can always fall back to the city, but I do think it should be the last resort.
>>33119114Doubt we can rule over them all at once, but you have a point.
So are we thinking field battle or defensive siege against Wang Lang
>>33119132How about 7 Days of governing and recruiting.Then 7 days expanding.Then rinse and repeat
>>33119132That's better, give us time to rest between each military action.
We should also discuss potential strategies for dealing with Wang Lang and his cronies. Assuming they have about 10.5-11k troops.Out of character and in thread, but no meta abuse hopefully.
>>33119174We should be getting several hundred from 20% of the province.We can keep doing that and then starve him inside his castle
>>33119157Well both have their advantages. The problem is supplies. Wang Lang can besiege us indefinitely. You only go into a siege if you can be sure the forces besieging cannot do so indefinitely and will run out of supplies before you.Open field can work, if we can divide the enemy army again and take it apart piece meal, that would be best.Personally I think we should avoid any open conflict and start encircling the enemy, taking his territory while he chases after us. Use our mobility to our advantage.
>>33119211Isn't he still following us?
>>33119132I agree with this. We get some recruits, show them some battle so they aren't fresh recruits and then we rest up for the big battle.
Wang Lang might be incompetent, but it's likely that he has few relatively capable subordinates so we shouldn't underestimate him too much. Wang Lang should have Zhou Xin under his command and we know he's fairly competent. Meta:Historically, Wang Lang's strategist was Yu Fan, who had a pretty remarkable career with the Sun family. He might also have He Qi, another general who defected to Wu after Wang Lang got reckt. He was a severely underrated general since he primarily dealt with barbarians and internal rebellions.
>>33119132Sure sounds good.
>>33119217>>33119263We could send our cavalry with Gao Shun to attack the supply lines they've erected while chasing us.Once we collapse his supply lines we can either continue conquering his land while their forces consolidate, or depending on our own forces / terrain, we could attack.Or even trick them into besieging us. Get rid of their supply lines and play it by ear from there.
>>33119132Works for me.
>>33119263Would he trust Zhou Xin after we gave him such a thorough spanking though?I think we should send a letter to Zhou Xin, praising his gallantry or some such. Try to create a thorn there.
>First 7 days: Gather volunteers and let your troops rest.>Second 7 days: Conquer some territories so your recruits can get some experience.>Third 7 days: Govern and let your army rest for the fight against Wang LangYou move your troops back in the town to rest your troops. You decide now that is best to start gathering volunteer soldiers, and begin a recruitment campaign. With tales of your battles currently won and Lu Bu's legendary fame in general, numerous people come to join. However, some people who are still bitter over their belongings taken and the subsequent gossip among them prevent some people from joining.At one of the days, you get some free time to visit someone. Who do you look for?>Choose
>>33119448>>ChooseLingqi. We still have never once actually visited her.
>>33119448Lingqi I guess
>>33119462Agreed.Time to spar
>>33119448Either Zhang liao or Lu Linqi
>>33119448Yeah figured something like this would happen but I think it's more important we get the recruits some battle experience.As for who we visit>Zhang LiaoTime to bro it up
>>33119448Zhang Liao, he seems a bit ambivalent about us and it'd be good to make friendships with the other higher ranking officers
>>33119448Zhang Liao, Lingqi's not that great of an officer
>>33119448Lingqi. We have to actually talk to our waifu at some point.
You decide to find Lingqi, having grown fond of the girl since your first meeting despite her brusque nature. So far you have ignored courting and siring a child as most nobles should be doing, in the hopes of being Lingqi. In fact... You even brought her along her along just to be with her. You grow slightly red at the thought of your affections, but quickly brush it off as you search for Lingqi. You find out she is near he barracks, and head there. It's only a minute of search at the barracks that you find Lingqi, sitting on some stacks of crates, sharpening her sword. When you come along, she takes a glance at you."Hey."A simple remark, and a bit lacking in respect...>Greet her and remain where you are>Take a seat next to her in a casual manner
>>33119448Why not both?zoidberg.jpgBut in all seriousness, Lingqi. 'cause waifu time.
>>33119690>>Take a seat next to her in a casual manner
>>33119690>Greet her and remain where you are
>>33119690>>Greet her and remain where you areSeeing how we have some down time. You want to spar?
>>33119690And here we once again run into the fact that /tg/ can't actually communicate with anyone in a normal manner.
>>33119690>Take a seat next to her in a casual manner.Let's not make this awkward
>>33119690>>Take a seat next to her in a casual mannerShe probably doesnt like formal too much
>>33119690>Take a seat next to her in a casual mannerDONTDROPTHESPAGHETTIDONTDROPTHESPAGHETTI DONTDROPTHESPAGHETTI
The problem with the casual is we still don't know her that well. Lets not rush the friend ship let it build.
>>33119690We only brought her along because she's a capable officer! It's not like we want to subjugate the entirety of China with her at our side for every step of the way or anything.
>>33119795we'll subjugate her china
>>33119690>Take a seat next to her in a casual manner.Lets bring up what it was like growing up with Lu Bu as her father. She obviously looks up to him and it makes for a great ice breaker
>>33119785She's more likely to react positively to us being casual rather than us formally courting her.that is of course if she's anything like her father which she is
>>33119830I meant ask her what it was like growing up with Lu Bu. I can't use words tonight
>>33119849You got it right the first time.
>>33119690>Take a seat next to her in a casual mannerConfucius says:To obtain pussy, you must be smooth like water
>>33119845She graduated summa cum laude from the prestigious Lu Bu School of StrategyHer thesis was titled, "Charge the bastards and then charge them some more"
You take a seat next to her, breathing out some air. Unlike most ladies, you think treating her a normal fashion is better than fawning over her. You remember well she took your remark of protecting her back at Chang An as patronizing."Tough day," you remark casually, looking around at the other soldiers training."Mmm... I hear you've been spending time gathering more soldiers. Don't expect me to do work outside of battles.""I have already figured much. You can do whatever you like while we rest.""Thanks."You look at her. She seems to hardly care about the fact that you're sitting next to her, and seems to be taking in stride.>How many have you killed so far?>Do you miss your father?>Tell me about your sister.
>>33119907>>How many have you killed so far?blood for the blood god
>>33119907>>How many have you killed so far?Let her brag.
>>33119907>How many have you killed so far?
>>33119907>>Do you miss your father?
>>33119907>>How many have you killed so far?Like guy I tried to kill had a nice hat.
>>33119907She's a daddy's girl.>Do you miss your father?Captcha: for prorsreStahp captcha.
>>33119907>How many have you killed so far?There is literally no other Answer that could be more correct.
>>33119907>>How many have you killed so far?
>>33119907How many have you killed so far?
>>33119945Nah. She has a complex about her father, but pointing it out directly would just get her defensive. She wants to be acknowledged for her own merits.
>>33119907>Tell me about your sisterHey, we have one of those. Common ground? Maybe.
>>33119907>How many have you killed so far?>Ask for a sparring match.She's gotta love both of these things
>>33119907>How many have you killed so far?RIP AND TEAR
>>33119967THIS. SUPPORTING THIS.Granted we'll probably get the shit kicked out of us, but it'll be worth it!
>>33119994No, anon, we are going to beat the shit out of her. And then go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTfEDvVVwYE
"It's been some time since you first went out to battle... Damn, being next to the court feels like it was just yesterday. Now we're here in the Southlands, far away from where we once were. How many have you killed so far?" you ask leaning back."Can't say," she replies. "I've lost count. After you kill the first few men, killing starts to feel normal. And then you just keep doing it until you don't know how many lives you've taken."She frowns for a second, and seemingly gets lost in thought."Tell me..." she says. "How was your first kill? What did it feel like?">I felt powerful. I only wish my opponent was stronger>It didn't feel like anything. Killing is just killing>It was a bit nerve-shaking and melancholic
>>33120100>It didn't feel like anything. Killing is just killing "Blood for the Blood God
>>33120100>>I felt powerful. I only wish my opponent was stronger
>>33120100>It didn't feel like anything. Killing is just killing, the Fight, that Intense lining between life and death is another thing entirely.
>>33120100>I felt powerful. I only wish my opponent was stronger. Though now I suppose that I feel much the same, another notch in the belt as it becomes a routine. But, the rush of fighting a foe that can match or even trump me is still something grand and challenging, an obstacle worth overcoming.
>>33120100>>I felt powerful. I only wish my opponent was strongerI don't know what the right answer is, so I'll stay true to our desire of wanting to be the ULTIMATE WARRIOR
>>33120100>I felt powerful. I only wish my opponent was stronger.>As for a sparring matchIt's perfect guys!
>>33120100>I felt powerful. I only wish my opponent was stronger
>>33120100>other"Honestly, I can't remember. The first time i killed a man, I was outside Hu Lao gate. Didn't really have time to think about it."
>>33120100>It was a bit nerve-shaking and melancholicBut in troubled times we must find the resolve to do the needful. I dirty my hands so that we may unify the lands.
>>33120135Backing this.The Fight is all, the death is not the thrill point.
>>33120132>>33120123>>33120135>>33120138>>33120145>>33120146Ryu and Akuma from Street Fighter called, they want their Ansatsuken back.
>>33120146>Ask for a sparring matchFuck I really can't type today
>>33120145Our destiny is mandated by Heaven
>>33120135This Fighting is life Fighting is love.
>>33120100>>It didn't feel like anything. Killing is just killing
>>33120100>>33120145Switching vote to >>33120135
>>33120100>>Bit nerve-shakingFirst answer is what her father would say, but that comment about killing "starting to feel normal" and her frown afterwards makes me think she was feeling melancholic herself at first.
>>33120100>I felt powerful. I only wish my opponent was stronger. After meeting Lord Lu Bu, I now know exactly how he feels; the heat-rage of the battlefield, the drumbeats in the heart..> ... would you care to spar for a few rounds?
ITT: /tg/ fights like Nurgle, and chooses brides like Khorne.
>>33120225Pfft, no one knows what Lu Bu feels like on the battlefield.
>>33120258Attempts to be Tzeentch and is too lewd for slanesh.
>>33120284Bullshit. We've held precisely 0 hands this quest.
>>33120298Implying we're not going to attempt to hold lingqi's hand in ours within the next few updates
>>33120323>implying we won't savor every iota of pain as she snaps our fingers for lewdness
>>33120323Nah, we're going to spaghetti this and she'll hate us forever.
>>33120298We've held the Kettle
>>33120323Implying we won't panic and club her in the head with our kettle instead
>>33120100>It was a bit nerve-shaking and melancholic"Then I truly learned that lives are not to be taken lightly. When you cut someone down, you cut down everything they could have accomplished. It is much better to avoid fighting. On the battlefield is no place for these thoughts though. When fighting we must give the enemy our all, just as they do."
>>33120323I'd rather this fight gets down & dirty and very lewd >Implying Linqi doesn't have to be Tamed/conquered
>>33120298Cai Wenji wanted the D back in Chang'An. Dunno if that applies to hand-holding.
>>33120370Still want to waifu her...
>>33120346>implying the kettle isn't her fetish
>>33120370And we shut her down
>>33120370Concubines son its a legit thing if we Retake Chang an
>>33120373Of course you do. You're on /tg/ where we want to waifu anything that currently has a hole, or may have a hole created.
>>33120378Marrying someone in a day to get all the benefits her family would bring is Disney villain territory.
>>33120411It's Ancient China territoryShe's gonna be concubined anyway
>>33120393Enough of this Cai Wenji or Lu Lingqi waifu talk. Our one true waifu is the kettle.
>>33120419Let's just make sure we have her locked in our fucking house when the Xiongnu come a knocking this time.
>>33120422No anon, that's what we use to get the waifus. The kettle is part of us. Perhaps the most important part.
>>33120431We call it Mister Kettle
"I felt powerful," you say with a smirk. "I took him down swiftly with my blade, and I only wished he was stronger. I look to every foe as a challenge, and it excites my blood to overcome them.""I see," Lingqi responds with a slow nod. "Perhaps I am not as strong as you. When I killed my first man, I felt awful. Taking away someone's life... And taking him away from his family and friends. The blood on my hands felt disgusting, and I overestimated my composure."She sighs."I cannot deny that I feel the joy of battle when I charge in, but in one way, I dislike it. But... I have to remove such doubts. For my father," she says, her brows furrowing and looking down.You get up from the seat, and grab a few practice swords from the weapon's box. Walking back to Lingqi, you toss her a sword, which she manages to grab in surprise."Take it. Let's have a spar," you say casually spinning your sword around. "Take your mind of such thoughts."Lingqi scoffs."Very well. Don't expect me to go easy on you just because you're the commanding officer.">>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Post 5 rounds of Strike > Slash > Sweep > Strike and roll 1d100. Your bow does not count for this match. Injuries do not count. Damage is also upped 30%, since last duel saw it takes a bit too long, and to make actual duels a bit more dangerous.
Rolled 63>>33120449>StrikeFor god sakes.
Rolled 75>>33120461>>33120462>>33120467>>33120468>>33120470Two really high, two really low and one around the middle. Not TOO bad hopefully.
>>33120449Welp. Didn't figure Lingqi to be a softie.Spaghetti has commenced in earnest. And she's totally a daddy's girl.
Rolled 3, 3, 3, 1, 2 = 12Roll.
>>33120498Gotta into those context clues anon.
>>33120492>>33120496Now if only those came up instead of our low rolls. And this quest has given me a massive want to play more DW.
>>33120517Those rolls, are they to denote what Lingqi's attack pattern rolls have revealed to us?
Rolled 52>>33120498At least she was not upset at us with our response.
>>33120517Slash > Sweep Sweep = SweepSlash > SweepStrike = Strike Strike > SlashI think that's 3 wins and 2 ties from attack sequences before the rolls. Someone correct me if I fucked up
Rolled 23>>33120561No I think you are rightHurray for us!
>>33120556I don't think there was a wrong choice there. It just fleshed out our character more.
>>33120574But she might get mad if we smack her down to hard!
>>33120561Well, at least our low numbers didn't backfire this time!
>>33120584Only two of those did damage, so it's not like it'll be a one sided slaughter.
>>33120584That's not really her character. She'd probably be equally impressed at us and frustrated at herself.
>>33120577Yeah, into the blood-thirsty, thrill-seeker, battle-monger that we have somehow morphed into.I, for one, would rather be a smart general that can use a brain instead of turning into Lu Bu 2.0
>>33120584Of course she wont. Don't be an idiot.
Rolled 71>>33120577Also an option to sympathise with her. Means we might be able to go with some more softer approaches.
>>33120590>morphed intoconfirmed for not being here from thread 1
>>33120590Our character loved battles, fighting, and glory from the first thread. Battlemonger with Brains is how I'm approaching the character.
Rolled 44>>33120590We are on that path to being the smart one.I'd say that perhaps this was posturing, trying to impress her.
>>33120590We're a bit of a Berserker, completly calm outside of battle buit a complete monster on the field.
>>33120590It's more like we've returned to our original character now that we don't have to play the responsible subordinate to all Lu Bu's blood knighting.
>>33120599Maybe after the duel we could say something like "Lingqi, your father cares for you very deeply. He would be happy if you were happy, so worry less about fulfilling your duty and more about enjoying life"
1. Lingqi -10 HP2. Even3. Lingqi -6 HP4. Even, high roll, Lingqi -4 HP5. Lingqi -8 HPLingqi wastes no time making a dash to attack you, but you are quick to react and sidestep. You manage to trip her, and she is caught surprised by the move. Recovering her steps, she quickly attacks back, but the off-balance starting move has left her quite defenseless. You manage to parry her attacks and manage to to strike her at her sides a few times. "Damn!" she yells, jumping back. So far, she has been completely beaten."Don't get cocky!" she says making another attack.(5 more rounds, 1d100 rolls)
>>33120590I think the choice that was most voted for could have been modified a bit. My opinion and what I feel our character should act like is he enjoys fighting because he seeks glory for his house, and he seek honor and duty for his cause, not that he's an asshole who just simply wants to rule everything.
Rolled 70>>33120590I see that as largely what we were originally going for from the start, and am honestly happy to see we have maintained that persona to at least some degree.
Rolled 28>>33120630>>33120639>>33120642>>33120643>>33120644...Dear god.We are in top form today.
holy shit. that's the best set of rolls we've ever had in this quest
Rolled 74>>33120653>Inb4 we kill Linqi
>>33120630>>33120639>>33120640>>33120642>>33120643Wow good job guys
>>33120657The quest's collective boner for Lingqi turned into a murderboner
>>33120665nah, no damage in this duel, raian said that when it started.It's just a rapeboner
Rolled 66>>33120665When you love something hard enoughyou want to kill it with your own hands
>>33120630>>33120639>>33120642>>33120643>>33120644Whoever sacrificed to the dice gods? KEEP IT UP!
Rolled 50>>33120665>murderboneryou mean rapeboner.
>I enjoyed killing someone>not indicative of some bloodthirstHokay guys.
>>33120676>>33120661>>33120656>>33120653You guys are forgetting about the rock-paper-scissors mechanic here. I'm guessing the dis/advantage would drop/increase our rolls by 50%
>>33120682>not realizing we've had bloodlust since character creationshufags constantly getting btfo
Rolled 2, 3, 1, 2, 2 = 10Roll.
Rolled 35>>33120697Controlled bloodlust.We only kill the ones who deserve our blades. When dealing with townsfolks, we're more lenient.
>>33120623Maybe after the duel we could SHUT UP.
>>33120701Strike>SlashSlash>SweepSlash<StrikeSweep<SlashSlash=SlashWin 2, Lose 2, Tie 1 if I did this right. Good dice rolls should help.Lingqi's trying to make a late-come back.
>>33120720I imagine she's beginning to get a bit upset
>>33120720>>33120736She probably got desperate with the last two hits and got lucky. Then even clash on the last bout.
>>33120697Our character motivations from the first thread:>And such a corrupt administration presents chances to rise.>>So I can make a name for myself.>Riches and women are fleeting. A worthy opponent is what I wanted, and the sad rabble we crushed lacked any.I forgot what a total bro Lu Bu was starting from Thread 1. I'm so glad I rolled that original 94.
>>33120747>you're the oneThank you so much anon.
>>33120709Maybe we could bring up our regrets as a general, like losing the capital and sending guys to their deaths and whatnots. Not in front of the soldiers and townies, though.
>>33120747Lu Bu sempai is the bestJust from the first thread alone: >“Zhu Xing, having you as a private would be a waste. I will raise your rank to lieutenant. >"Leave him be," Lu Bu states with a wave of his hand. "Unlike the lot of you, he has his priorities. And it is good to know I have such a warrior in my ranks."After we completely humiliated ourselves and the prick generals threatened to hang us.>As you walk out, Lu Bu grips you on the shoulder and mutters to you.>"You are a good warrior, and have accomplished deed in my force. But you must learn your place in the near future. Worry not, I am sure your time will come in the near future.">You managed to wound Sun Jian's officer, Zu Mao before I saved your arse. Lu Bu took notice, and now you're Captain.”
>>33120747You are a true warrior of the three kingdomsI missed the ham-filled dialogues of dw5 and 4
Rolled 66>>33120793>>You managed to wound Sun Jian's officer, Zu Mao before I saved your arse. Lu Bu took notice, and now you're Captain.”I wonder what happened to that old guy...We should have asked for him in our staff.
>>33120806He's probably dead. Either in the retreat from Luoyang or when we lost Chang'an. RIP Old Man. Thought we may not know your name, you will always be in our memories
>>33120793Hahaha, we never did fund out what happened to that old guy who saved us. Doesn't matter though, you don't truly owe someone until they save your life three times.
Rolled 6>>33120747While Riches and woman are fleeting we can agree that they are a thing to enjoy no? savaged or otherwise
>>33120806>>33120823>>33120827Screw Cai Wenji, new mission is to rescue the old guy from the prick generals.
>>33120851He's dead, anon. The best we can hope for is to liberate his kettle
Rolled 79>>33120851>Screw Cai WenjiYes, we shall.
>>33120851I'm pretty sure we've already decided to screw Cai Wenji, anon.
>>33120844Boner no! I am fasting
>>33120863we decided not to screw her
Rolled 16>>33120865 My apologies Islambro
>>33120886 Its fine, I got what I deserve by browsing 4chan at noon [/spoilers]
>>33120793You know, I'm beginning to think that if things had been slightly different we would have become Lu Bu's adopted son. It wouldn't be an uncommon thing to happen in those days in a situation like this
>>33120900Now we're going to become his son by marriage
>>33120900I love Lu Bu and all, but I don't want to be adopted anything with that guy.
>>33120900Lu Bu is too young/wild/free for that, at least right now.
>>33120882Because we had spoken to her like, one time.
Rolled 58>>33120882You dont just ask for a lady's hand in marriage the first time you see her.
>>33120912I'm pretty sure he's in his late 30s right now if he has two adult daughters. Zhu Xing is 20 years old, so the age gap checks out.
>>33120900>>33120905I mean unless Diao-chan pops out a Lu Bu Jr, we are going to become Lu Bu's heir by default.
Rolled 6>>33120937Matter of time.Did he historically sire any sons?
>>33120947Nope, but he also died fairly young historically.
>>33120947Only had two daughters historically speaking. But if we keep him alive well into the years, who knows?
1. Lingqi -10 HP2. Lingqi -10 HP3. Zhu Xing -6 HP4. Zhu Xing -6 HP5. Even"My turn!" you yell, charging forward as well. While having been on the defense for the first few rounds, you quickly switch to offense to catch Lingqi off-guard.Your tactics succeed, and you manage to break her guard a few times.One of your attacks lands a decisive strike against her stomach that would have surely killed her if this was real combat. Gritting her teeth, Lingqi refuses to be outmatched. She lures you in to attack and overextending your steps, and with some quick slashes, manages to land hits on you as well. You both take a massive swing at each other with all your strength, and the force of the blow knocks you both back while bending the practice blunted swords. Lingqi however falls on the ground on her bottom, while you manage to only slightly flinch with one leg bended to the ground. The winner is clearly you.The soldiers who had been watching cheer and shout your name. You wipe some sweat from your brows, and move to Lingqi."...Shit, I lost," she mutters on the ground.You help her up with an extended hand, and she takes it with one of hers. "...You probably still had those thoughts on your mind," you say. "It's why I managed to win. Don't let them occupy you on the real battlefield... Remember that your father and the rest of us are counting you.""Tch... Lecture me will you," Lingqi responds with a genuine smile. "But you're right. Thanks. Next time though, I'm paying you back double."Your relationship with Lingqi has improved.
A few days pass after your interactions with Lingqi, and you spend the rest of the time gathering more soldiers. By the end of the week, you've managed to gather around 1200 soldiers together for a combined army of 7000, back to your original numbers from the beginning of the campaign.With that done, you decide to campaign for a while and take more territories. Most of the villages are easily taken, with only a few of them resisting your commands and some pocket resistances here and there. You lose a hundred soldiers however.In one particular village, a volunteer force of 500 meet to fight you. In front of the volunteer is a large man with a halberd. “Leave our lands!” he demands. What do you do?>Try to convince him to surrender and become a part of your force>Charge in and destroy them
>>33120977>Zhu Xing's face>>33120993>Try to convince him to surrender and become a part of your force
>>33120993>>Try to convince him to surrender and become a part of your forceIt's what we do
>>33120937>>33120947>>33120959>>33120964So are we gonna have to kill a kid via assassins if we wanna be the heir?
>>33121006Crusader kings 2: Three kingdoms
>>33120993>Try to convince him to surrender and become a part of your force
>>33120993>>Try to convince him to surrender and become a part of your force.He cannot win, but we don't want to spill unnecessary blood either.
Rolled 57>>33120993>Try to convince him to surrender and become a part of your forceYou are farmers not warriors go home or be killed
>>33121006Do we even want to be the heir?
>>33120993>>Try to convince him to surrender and become a part of your forceWrite-in:If words don't work, duel him and get him to join if he's defeated.
>>33120993>try to convince him to surrender and become part of your forceWe need all the help we can get for the upcoming battle
>>33121006>Not becoming surrogate father of Lu Bu's child after Lu Bu falls in battle after slaying six gorillion soldiers