I need pictures, pictures of Mars! Or creepy space things in general. See, I'm planning on running that classic Martian absolute horror scenario that an anon posted four years ago, but I need images to put on my 6-panel custom GM screen.I'm thinking a great shot of the Face on Mars would be good, maybe some red landscapes, but that leaves three or four more panels that I don't know what to put up. Anything space-related is welcome.For those new to the scenario I'm talking about, here:http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/12130366/It's a long read but it's one of the best sessions I've ever heard about in my entire life.
so I don't have pictures but if you want to play sounds for your players I compiled some plasma waveform spectrometry data recorded by voyager 2 as it enterd jupeter's magnetic feild, literally the sounds of space propegating through the thin interplanetary plasma. heres the site I got it from if you want more. also in the folder is a number of other feild recordings if you want them some are pretty edgy though so be warned.>http://www-pw.physics.uiowa.edu/voyager/data/VGPW_2001/EXTRAS/BROWSE.HTM
>>33710849This stuff is great, thank you. The OP of the original thread linked all the sound files he played but two of them, including one of the most important, are no longer functional. I emailed the address he left in the thread but that was four years ago, so I'm not expecting a reply. I need something to replace those.
>>33710849forgot link, fuck>https://mega.co.nz/#F!FclxmYJS!esRY89C8Kyh_DpX72PUSGg
>>33710707>an anonAwakeAre you sure you don't want Saturn? All your pics are Saturn. Mars is a tiny red speck of dust by comparison, without rings and only 2 crippled moons. You can do with one moon of Saturn what you can do with all of Mars.No Cydonia on Saturn's moons though.
>>33710896I found the youtube link you were talking about, I don't think that was the original data. someone took the data, cleaned out the annoying noises and added some synthisyzer shit in there to make it more interesting. In the first link they have the raw voyager data split into ~30 second chunks, in the mega link I just saved those and compiled them into 10 longer tracks ~15 minutes each. but its the actual raw data and it sound really noisy.
>>33710707I have something just for you, OP. Google 'Sounds of Uranus". You won't be disappointed.
>>33711510thats what this is>>33710898
>>33710970I can think of a few reasons to do it on Mars rather than on Saturn's moons, yeah. First it's a lot more rooted in popular culture so my players will have more of a framework to imagine the adventure in. Second, it's much more realistic to suppose three manned space missions would have been sent to Mars within the next 50-100 years than to Saturn.I'm mostly posting pics of Saturn because that's what I have, and much of the other stuff I have is too large to post.
>>33711032The videos he used were these, in order:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3fqE01YYWsJupiterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7E_GVDdyYsNeptunehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80Ngl2RY8sAUranushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XocjG6CmvD8unknown, the link is dead. From the context I think it was a loud screeching, possibly static sound used to jolt the players in times of panichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MvrduueveISaturnhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AVHXMLDvWA&feature=relatedEarthhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC0h4ttvLlw&feature=relatedunknown, dead link. Context is no helphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0TgVfj8OpUNumbers station jamming signalhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxTOK-cZpsg&feature=relatedNumbers station S32https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaXovgMIDNc&feature=relatedNumbers station UVB-76What do you guys think I should replace the missing links with?
This pic reminds me of something else I wanted input on. In the linked thread, the OP bought gas masks for his players to wear IRL any time their characters are wearing a space suit, obviously to simulate the effects and increase immersion. I want to do that too, but he neglected to say what kind of gas mask he bought. Should I go for a full-head model like the Russian GP-5? Something more like a firefighter's mask that has a full glass front but no hood? This is probably my second most important question, after the sound replacement.
>>33712479Full head models are probably going to cost you more, but I think they'll produce a better experience due to hearing difficulties produced by the helmet. Either would be fine, and definitely an interesting way to immerse players.
>>33712715I've found some sweet deals on GP-5s on eBay so I'm having my players measure their heads right now without telling them for what. I hope wearing the gas masks for like 5 hours straight will be tolerable.
>>33712897If the game is good enough it will be
>>33713000Reassuring. I'm going to tell them not to worry about bringing food or snacks but to eat ahead of time (no food will be provided to increase realism, and snacking is a definite no-no), and instead of spending the money on that bring a $10 bill. That's what I'll exchange for their gas masks of course. Oh, and I'm going to make a big point of insisting they shave right before the game since apparently the GP-5 pulls hairs like a bitch
Jupiter is best space.
>>33714247If you have players who have watched any mecha anime, Jupiter is the greatest of all evils in their minds.
>>33715801At least two of my players, probably three, do watch a fair amount of anime, but I do too, and the only mecha anime I can think of that features Jupiter is that one where they turn it into a weapon. I forget the name.
>>33716001Diebuster (or Gunbuster) did it.
>>33716040Yeah that's the one. That's the only mecha anime I can think of that involves Jupiter in any way, and it wasn't exactly horrifying.
Kammarheit—The Starwheel (Dark Ambiant)http://www.mediafire.com/download/abdnd6h3bi2m7os/Kammarheit-_-The_Starwheel.zipDarkspace—Darkspace III (Black Metal, Dark Ambient)http://www.mediafire.com/download/6cwsw6fmp02flli/Darkspace-_-Darkspace_III.zip
>>33710707Space IS creepy. I don't even look up at night.
>>33712171Fucking knew it. I knew space was creepy.
>>33712036>http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/12130366/I'll just leave this here.
>>33712171>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC0h4ttvLlw&feature=relatedArchived video is gone, but it's name wasBooming sound waves heat up galaxy clusterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XocjG6CmvD8 looks like it was listed as "The worst sound to human ears"
>>33722149Leave what here? That link is in the OP, smarty.
>>33722149Not the link I meant to post...http://tailsteak.com/000325/titan.html
Its not a pick but one of my friends used radio signals from Jupiter to provide a really creepy atmosphere. You can probably find them on YouTube.
Alright. Before we get someone suggesting something like this vaguely every few hours, here's our classics:Symphonies of the Planetshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLDWKpAkRHs&list=PLC633FA97BBF4AD7BConet Project numbers stationshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUQUD3IMbb4&list=PL28C2E5D2113056DA
>>33722539Soundtrack to the original Cosmos is pretty good as well.
>>33712171>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3fqE01YYWs>Although space is a virtual vacuum, this does not mean there is no sound in space.>sound does exist as electromagnetic vibrations.the statements at the beginning of that video are so wrong I literally had to facepalm
>>33719187Mars looks kinda cozy in this pic.
>>33712171>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaXovgMIDNc&feature=related [Embed]We now know their target.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQAKRw6mToA
>>33724558There's nothing cool about freezing and suffocating in the Martian blastlands.
>>33710849>https://mega.co.nz/#F!FclxmYJS!esRY89C8Kyh_DpX72PUSGgThis is so fucking cool.>mfw living the science-fiction life
>>33724500I really hate it when that shit happens.>Hurr I don't understand it but I'm just gonna make shit up and spread it around.Fuck those people it's the dunning-kruger effect in action (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect)
OP here, back from sleep/work. This stuff is awesome! I appreciate you guys coming forward, especially with new images and sounds and factoids. I've called around some army surplus stores in the area and I think I can get GP-5 gas masks (pic related) for $10 at at least one of them, which I think is a reasonable price to ask my players to pay. I see on Youtube that they can cause real sweat and discomfort after even short wear, so I hope my players can toughen up. The only problem is they don't have voice diaphragms so the players will have to shout, and I cannot for the life of me find anything on how much it muffles your hearing. There are no holes and it's fairly thick rubber so I'm guessing I will have to shout to be heard, and the players might have to lean in to hear anything at all from each other.
>>33727126>that gas maskdrop the Mars idea, make a Killing Floor campaign
>>33710707This idea intrigues me. I kind of want to create a system just for doing space horror, would anyone on /tg/ be interested in working on it?
>>33727250Just use Nemesis.
>>33722208How did you find out what those links formerly contained? The first suggested title shows a news document with no sound links, and Youtube doesn't show anything by that title. The original is obviously gone but I was hoping it'd be somewhere.The second sound could have been pretty much anything. I'm thinking something from this list might replace it well:http://mentalfloss.com/article/13065/11-worst-sounds-world
>>33710707I've always thought that this picture is very eerie
What about taking a bit from Doctor Who with the walking space suits and theTwilight Zone with an empty base with signs of recent activity?
>>33728234That's taken from lunar orbit.
>>33724500So how does the sound register on sensors?>>33727207Haven't played Killing Floor. I take it someone wears gas masks in that?
>>33728292Awake already used the Vashta Nerada pic in the original game. And I'd watch Waters of Mars again, The Impossible Planet+Satan Pit, or Midnight, not the romantic and cute Silence in the Library.
>>33728419yeabut it's a bit campy, so it's probably not for someone who wants pure fear
>>33719201>kammarheitMah nigga, check out Northaunt and Svartsinn as well.Have a radio station.http://www.live365.com/stations/herleif32
>>33722243>...and then alpha centarui explodedFucking dropped
>>33728292I'm wary of using anything from Doctor Who for a variety of reasons, but I'll keep the base idea in mind. In the original campaign there are survivors alive there that serve to kind of mislead the initial impressions of the PCs, but that kind of didn't make a whole lot of sense to me.>>33728337Nothing wrong with that. Not all 6 pics have to be of Mars.
>>33710970>AwakeMars Awakes and we are trapped insideMars has awoken and we have nowhere to hide
I think the Verana photos of the surface of Venus are very creepy.
>>33722243soooo, 40k, but on a single planet?
>>33728967>everyone forgets the first EIGHT lander on another planet was USSR's >almost all of the early surface knowledge of Venus is from USSR Venera craftFucking Americans get all credit for space with moon landings. At least Russia was in space first.
>>33729184It's really to bad there's fucking nothing on Venus...otherwise people would probably care.At 900F and nearly 90 atmospheres of pressure, there's plenty of interesting scientific data to be gained there, but no glam or glory.
>>33729184We had the first rockets in space, and the first animals.
>>33728081The worst sound in the world is someone screaming for their life, knowing they're about to be murdered.Thanks, liveleak.
>>33725674There is: you died, but ON FUCKING MARS.How's that for an epitaph?
>>33730720First person to die on another planet... although in about 100 years no one will remember who it was, and 200 years past that no one would care even if they did know.
>>33729354False, Germany had the first rockets and animals in their V2 tests. Russia was first to orbit with both however.
>>33731270Goddard nigga.Also, no. We were the first to send up fruit flies and take pictures from Orbit.
>>33730953at least it's not dying like a fucking pansy to some "OOH SO SCARY WE CAN'T COMPREHEND IT EAT MEE" alien
>>33729184>typical 'murica derangement syndromeThe USA prioritized Mars exploration with the Viking probes, the USSR prioritized Venus exploration with the Verana probes. It had nothing to do with one-upmanship, it was simply "welp, since they're studying that planet, doesn't make much sense for us both to go there."
>>33732187But the Soviet Union *did* try and explore Mars. They just failed
>>33732418>peasant dwarf planets>not gaseous planet master worlds
>>33732246You know what they also failed at and eventually succeeded in? Space Stations. Their research and development of space stations forms the core of the International Space Station. Literally, and Figuratively.
>>33728967As in before the lander(s) melted?
>that classic Martian absolute horror scenario that an anon posted four years agopost thisplease
>>33733032Mars Horror is in the OP, anonymous.
>>33733032It's a long, long read but absolutely worth it. Just horrifying.How do you think I should do the character sheets on this one, guys? Pre-made characters? Mostly-premade but let them fill in some details? Should I find a drawfag to do character portraits?
>>33733374>Mostly-premade but let them fill in some detailsThis.Also put some art on the sheet. A background, maybe ship insignia. What is your crunch?
>>33733462The original GM did not use a system, merely having the players roll a D6 to see if they detect things or succeed in actions. I was intending to increase that to a D10 but other than that keep the system the same. I have never run a rules-lite game before (nor a horror game for that matter), but adding lots of rules to the game seems like it would distract from the experience.
>>33733654But you still want a sheet?Why not make it a personnel file?Are the players NASA astronauts or Weyland-Yutani employees?
>>33733733I don't really know what I want TBH. I stumbled across this while researching horror techniques for a Call of Cthulhu campaign I wanted to run, so I was in the mood for handouts. I want at least one, and I thought a character sheet would fit. What do you mean by a personnel file? As for the plot, I'm going to change it a bit from the original. Instead of 2158 it'll be closer to 2070, maybe earlier, since I would imagine we'd have sent at least two Mars missions by then. The PCs will all be American, OOC because I don't want my players trying to use accents or think like other cultures because that would disrupt the atmosphere, IC because there wasn't time after the second mission's disaster to gather non-NASA astronauts, since it was an emergency.
>>33729335Well, all the probes sent did provide us with a lot of information regarding the planet. So there's that. Mars is less hostile... but that's like saying living at the bottom of the ocean is more feasible than living at the bottom of the Mariana Trench.
>>33733822>What do you mean by a personnel file?
>>33734331Make each one bring out a printed out wallet size of what their character looks like and have a stapler handy.
>>33733822>researching horror techniques for a Call of Cthulhu campaign>>33729564
>>33712897Wearing a GP-5 for a long time is definitely doable, but you can be sure they're going to be sweaty messes when they take them off. The hoods don't impose too much on your hearing, but they make it nearly impossible to understand what you're saying.
>>33734331Any ideas? I think it needs a tiny line at the bottom, something likePlease complete this form in capital print letters using a ball pen or ink pen. Do not write outside the margin. All information given must be accurate and current.
>>33734366Maybe something like pic, but obviously more serious.
>>33734948Something like this might work.
>>33734331This is actually just the sort of thing I was thinking of including and exactly what I meant when I was saying "character sheet." I would also include a spot for a picture, although that might be a bad idea, i don't know.>>33734366My players are new to RPGs and have never done one as serious as this will be. I'm afraid they would bring anime pictures, and if not, then the pictures would be of famous people because they don't know any other places to find images of people.
>>33734385Haha, that's the exact .pdf that included the link that lead me to the original Martian horror thread, and what started me on this kick! Some really great advice in there too.>>33734536I'm glad to hear that. One thing I've noted about radio communications ever since I was young was how damn unclear they are. It still puzzles me how people can understand pilots and voices on walkie-talkies as well as they seem to, so this will hopefully simulate some of the difficulties. Ain't not air on Mars so they're going to be using "radios"
>>33735000>>33734948>>33734820Hm, I don't know which of these I prefer. Some kind of blend could probably be whipped up in shape. But I don't even know what to put in some of the blanks on the first one- like, what do I put under "mental assessment"?Either way, what is your guys' opinions on premade or fresh? I'm kind of leaning towards filling out most of the info, like medals won, rank, age, marital status, while leaving things like name, signature, physical descriptors, etc, to the players.Alternatively, I was also thinking of going fully-premade and having the characters that are not chosen become NPCs. I was thinking that when those NPCs die or have bad things happen to them it would increase the emotional impact, the players knowing that those NPCs could have been PCs if they had chosen differently. Thoughts?
>>33735369'I would let the players pick name, look, marital status, place of birth, and only define things like age, specialty, and rank.
>>33735369I would go with pre-made. You know your players, right? Just make the characters fit the players. I'd suggest making them as close to the players as possible to help form immersion. Not exactly the same of course, but race/sex/etc. I'm a fan of the thread you are working from. And remembering, there really wasn't any kind of need for skills. So just go with what makes sense.I actually like the look of the first one you quoted the most. If you can replicate the entire 'i pulled this up off the web' look. If you can't think of something that would fit in a line, change the line. Use the NASA files from above for examples.Like I said, I would mostly match the physical descriptions (although likely more physically fit) to the players. But really, they should mostly be forgettable. Everyone is going to be about the same height and weight - cause standard gear. And really, none of that stuff matters in game.
>>33735560lol that guy looks like a dweeb
>>33735369>what do I put under "mental assessment"Mental and physical assessment are the placeholders for attributes. Sure, you can't put 'anemic' on an astronaut sheet. But you could have the players define their body-stat and their personality. Intelligence will be in the occupational specialty.>>33735635He is the nerdmaster general!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poZCINzxzrQ
>>33735632Actually google 'personnel file' and do image and you can get plenty of options.
>>33735632>>33735560What do you think of filling out most of it, letting them choose aesthetic stuff, and for height/weight/build/etc give them a range to choose from, representing the current NASA requirements for astronauts of course?
>>33736098Great. Also let them pick their own name.
>>33735141>what started me on this kick!I'm glad you liked it.
>>33735560Don't do a picture. It dictates too much of the character and makes any violence that happens against them upsetting. Let the players imagine the look.
>>33736264Wait, did you write that?
>>33736274>makes any violence that happens against them upsettingExactly! I mean OP wants to make them buy and wear gas masks ffs.
>>33736300One of mine.
>>33736301Actually that's a good point, with the gas masks on you wouldn't be able to see each other's faces, making it easier to picture one another as the one on the sheet, especially after a long hot session when everyone's tired and hungry and (hopefully) scaredStill, attaching a picture removes the imagination aspect and also dictates some of the few choices they really have, like hair and eye color
>>33736395Just provide 10 or so fitting pictures and make each player pick one.
>>33736428I am currently doing the same for a Uboat adventure.
>>33736464where are you finding appropriate images? For this campaign NASA seems the only source, but I guess you have all kinds of WW2 images to draw from, right?
>>33728419>So how does the sound register on sensors?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_waveIt's not 'sound', its electromagnetic waves that have been transferred into a sound medium. Kinda like the static from an old TV when stations used to go off air
>>33736502makes me wonder, if space really was filled with aether or some other medium that *did* transmit soundwaves, would Earth just be hyperloud all the time? I mean, I've heard the Sun is extremely loud, plus all the planets and even Earth itself. Although I guess we can't exactly hear Earth and we live on it, so...
>>33736501There's actually very few useful pictures of actual submarine crews who perished in WW2. I don't want to use a picture of somebody whose children are still alive. And I need the correct uniforms that only submarine crews had. I guess I'll take some license eventually.Here's how I describe my Uboat to the players. I guess a space ship isn't all that different from a game perspective.NASA astronauts have Facebook pages. I'm sure a little research will turn up tons of pics with Nasa flight jackets. It could be useful to distinguish different specialists. The pilot could have an image in a g-suit, the scientist one in a lab coat...
>>33736579https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AVHXMLDvWAread the annotation in the video
>>33736579The atmosphere is our cushion. It dampens EM and most nuclear radiation, it would also muffle sound.
>>33736501>where are you finding appropriate images?Try this: Look up NASA missions on Wikipedia, copa the names of the cre members, do a Google image search with each of those names. Set search tools>size to medium or large, full color, type to photo. Open one or two in a new tab and paste the next name.
Should energy or caffeinated drinks be supplied for players of a horror game? I know food and snacks are bad ideas but caffeine makes people more on edge, right?
>>33737646Depends. I cook setting food for my Laundry group. But that's more pulpy and I don't want them on edge all the time.You don't want the players to fall asleep. When they're wearing those masks and sweating they'll need electrolytes after an hour or two. You could get jogger cups with straw and fill them with Gatorade. Vacuum sealed small peanuts packs without cardboard box could fit right in. Just make sure nobody stuff themselves with cheetos, chips, chocolate bars, and gummi bears, that kills any predisposition for adventure.But there's no point in keeping your players hungry in a longer session. Order pizza or have astrofood ready. From the top of my head: spaghetti meatballs sealed in portion packets to be reheated in hot water, complete with plastic spork.
>>33737868Also: instant coffee.
>>33737868The idea of hunger is to induce stress on the players, same thing with the masks, the dark, the heat, and (possibly) the caffeine. It wouldn't be ravenous hunger since they'd have eaten just before the session but enough to make them agitated
Get some cheap velcro strips and use them to strap down things like pens and handouts.
>>33737938Just make sure they have the capacity to concentrate. If you make it too strenuous their attention will wander or they'll get grumpy. It's a very ambitious game you're planning. You will have to adjust to your group during play.>>33737975Because they're in a space ship. They don't remove the velcro after touchdown.
>>33738018I am worried about how ambitious this session is. My pedigree as a GM isn't long. Two simultaneous 6-month IRC campaigns of WHFRP 2e with 4 players each is my best, then I GM'd two sessions of Dark Heresy for two different groups a year apart from each other, and I have played in exactly three sessions of any RPG. My players have even less experience. For three of the four that one session of DH I ran most recently is their only experience with RPGs, while the third has that and a handful of Pathfinder games.I've never done horror, I've never used props, I've never done atmosphere...
>>33738258*fourth, and I forgot that I played in about 8 sessions of a Black Crusade campaign earlier this year. Still, I have more experience GMing than actually playing, but even that's limited
>>33712897Gas masks are uncomfortable as fuck. I have a GP-5, and it's as uncomfortable as all hell. To be perfectly fair, it's a size too small. Still, wearing one for five hours straight without any training or a life or death need would be unbearable. Also, talking through one is downright impossible. These things were designed for civilian use, so keeping your ass alive was held way above comfort, hearing, or communication.
>>33738740Some of the videos on Youtube I watched described the GP-5 as painful to get on and off but fairly comfortable if sized correctly. Others disagreed wholeheartedly. I don't know, if I can find a mask with a voice diaphragm that's no more than ~$15 then I could go with that. But the GP-5 is iconic, my friends might recognize it, and it's dirt cheap which is important since my friends and I are broke, and one is even quite poor.
>>33738740Now that I think about it this will be closer to 10 hours, not 5
In the soundtrack what do you think about incorporating two actual songs?The first is Gyorgy Ligeti's "Lux Aeterna", the piece used in the scene that the original OP in the Mars thread linked where they find the monolith on the moon. The voices reaching a crescendo, while human, would be very unnerving and perfectly fit reaching somewhere deep inside the catacombs, or maybe while approaching a distant corpse that they can't see the face of.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha6iydrIxScThe other song is "This Is Not the End" by Fieldwork from the Edge of Tomorrow soundtrack. It's very atmospheric and would fit great, except it's also very popular right now and fresh in everyone's minds after the movie and its trailers being all over, so you'd have to use it early on. Maybe like the ship's AI as they're making landing checks suggests it in the background as a throwback piece to 70 years ago (or whatever)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32eywT-bQhQOnce the session is over you could play it again. It's sort of reflective and melancholy while still bearing hope and defiance in the beginning, while the second part is kind of joyful mixed with sadness for what's happened, making it a nice full-circle
>>33738258>>33738294You can start smaller, see how your group does horror. Play a few games of Dread and DRYH, get used to the genre, get your players used to the genre.If your group isn't prepared for something like this then it could go very wrong. You cannot force something like this on players.The implied contract is that everyone shows up and has fun together, directed by the GM. If they feel there's no fun to be had, or they become suspicious of your intentions, then they won't want to play your game.Awake's round on Mars is a one-in-a-million game. I play a lot of horror with my years running group. But my players wouldn't be up for a game in gas masks. Maybe yours are.But a round like this is a level that needs to be unlocked first. Don't set yourself up to fail. Be realistic about what you can do, and next time do a little better.
>>33737868>spaghetti meatballs sealed in portion packets to be reheated in hot water, complete with plastic spork.I like this a lot. The daily things on a space ship could be a great way to convey atmo.I'd be autistic about tidiness with sealable small trash bags prepared. If a player leaves a tissue or torn paper lying around for too long roll for a system malfunction because it got caught in an air filter or shorted out a console. Have metal dice stuck to a magnet.This >>33737947Also make the players bring extra socks and make them take off their shoes, maybe suggest sweat pants.Put occasional reassuring beeps in a long track and loop it on an old iPod with the headphones set to loud, then hide it in the corner.When they go on EVAs the gas mask could be too much quickly. A paintball mask could work well, with a snorkel mouthpiece for Vader breathing. Add skiing gloves and get two of those voice changing toys to pass around and play radio calls. This will also cut down cross chatter at the table.I have been working on incorporating an old timey radio into one of my horror games. I got a $5 car radio transmitter that sends out your sound signal on a low power FM antenna. Mindfucks to be had when audio handouts can be listened to on an actual radio or a phone with radio reception.
It would be amazing to make your player unable to talk to each other without some sort of microphoneJust hope none of them are claustrophobic
>>33716591Even though what they DID with it was pretty damn horrifying.They turned it into a bomb that blew up 80% of the Milky Way Galaxy. Gunbuster humanity is fucking scary when it comes to escalation speed. And this was before they got into bullshit math drives powered by an artificial galaxy!
this thread has some fuckin' pretty pics
>>33710707>that an anon posted four years agoHas it really been that long?>Suptg linkWow. I guess it has.
>>33743887I don't have the time to prototype other horror games. All of my friends, including myself, are completely booked solid until September, then classes start again and other responsibilities take over and we're all booked again. Even in the days we don't have classes we all have personal responsibilities, work, etc, that mean gaming is difficult. Besides that, I'm really enthusiastic about this session and it would be unbearable to have to put it off even longer than I already am. Granted, the game will suffer for my and my group's lack of experience, but that's one reason I came here, so I can find ways to minimize this>>33745084The game won't take place on a spaceship except for maybe the first half-hour. After that there's maybe another half-hour in a small Mars colony, and then after that it's nothing but walking about. There would be no breathable air (except at the end IIRC one player took his helmet off and could breathe, I forget), so food is out completely. Drinks I could see since suits have those camel straw things. I'll looking into the runner cups though, that's clever.I'm worried that introducing other props into the game beyond gas masks could make the game feel more pageant-like, silly instead of serious. I want them to feel the atmosphere, not like they're wearing a costume. But where's the line between those two?
>>33751745I neglected to find out if any of my players are claustrophobic. I suppose that will shortly become clear...The microphone is a neat idea but I don't see a way to make it work. IRL everyone would have a radio so I suppose I could find one for each person, but I don't even know what to search for for that. "Personal microphone amplifier"? A shared one is right out, both because everyone would have one IRL and because you'd have to slip it under your gask mask to use it, getting it sweaty and gross for the next person.>>33752409Eh, I thought it was less horrifying and more stupid writing on the part of the creators.
>>33756516You know what else you can do?have each player in separate small rooms with only a candle light and a radio if they get split up from the rest of the groupincreases the feeling of isolation
>>33757304That sounds awesome, and super useful. In the original thread one guy does get separated fairly early on and it forms a pretty important plot point. The rest of the group split into teams after that and for a long section all the RPing was done through notes, and that just sounds like a nightmare. Again though, I need some kind of radio or walkie-talkie or something, and that's pretty different from the mic-under-the-gas-mask idea. Related question, if I do do that and a player gets split off then obviously I would have to spend some time with the group and then get up and go spend time with the other guy. When I'm out of the room the game is essentially paused, right? So would it then make sense to allow the people in the paused room to take off their gas masks? Or would that break immersion?
should this be archived as well since it's additional information usable for the scenario?I know the CoC puppet campaign had it's second thread archived as well.
>>33758156Yeah I'm wondering this too.>>33757805Might be useful. I've heard of other people wanting to run this campaign but I don't know if they ever did. This might be a good resource. But if we're going to archive it we need to have *more* resources on this page. Let's find good products for those radios and mics.
>>33758156MiB with muppets in a magitech Delta green?
>>33758156http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=muppets"a very bad idea" and "feltpunk 2"
Does anyone have a... movie'd-up version of the Face on Mars? The real one, which >>33749563 posted, would have been terrifying when it was news, but now it looks kind of small and, well, not in color. Anyone aware of a larger, in-color, modern take on it? Like a DeviantArt drawing or something?
>>33758660does this count?
>>33758660All I'm finding on Deviantart are pictures of Sailor Mars
>>33758660captcha: gnsgican MOON
>>33758939>The face is clearly humanoid. Half human, half feline, or half human, half reptile?The artist's a furry and made it look overly artificial without preserving the mystery
>>33759058it's half human half faggot
Not only do some people apparently still believe the Face is Martian-built but that the whole Cydonia region contains a city, a "Tholus" and multiple pyramids, including pic related that they've helpfully scrawled all over. It does give me an idea though: the pyramid has five sides. That's pretty unusual, and would make for a great slightly-off element to mention while exploring the tunnels
>>33759286clearly it is the work of these fuckers
>>33759286>>33759240How about all the corridors the PCs travel through are pentagonal, and the rooms they find are either three or five-walled. No squares anywhere. Looking back on it that would have made the original thread much creepier.
>>33759576why do humans think in 4s so much anyways?
>>33748855looks like it's pulling together a lot of space music.good atmosphere, maybe play some while you explain the mission to get everybody in the mood before gas mask blast off.
how hard sci-fi are you going op? do you wnat suggestions for cool tech you could include?
>>33762071Totally hard sci-fi. The campaign will be set in 2070 or earlier, probably earlier, so nothing very outlandish at all.
>>33759758It's actually 3s.3 is an exceptionally important number for Humans.
>>33762211Defend your position. I can see four, in that we like nice square things, and five, what with that being the number of fingers/toes on a hand/foot and half of 10, but 3?
>>33756377It might be best to view this extremely atmospheric game as an experiment in its use with the group, and it explain it to them as such. That way if it bombs and atmosphere is still attempted in later games it can be explained that a lesson was learned and the atmosphere toned down in intensity.
>>33712897Personally, I'd go for the SCBA masks cause the remind me of the part in Alien when they're looking around the ancient ship.If you were feeling REALLY creative, you could install strip lighting in them to get even closer to that look.
>>33762194ok sweet, we need more hard sci-fi in modern culture. I know this is a little pop-sci but there is actual research being done into the feasability of this, its an injection of lipid microparticles that surround tiny pockets of oxygen, its ment to deliver oxygen to choking victems and patients undergoing certain dangerous surgical procedures without using the lungs>http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/06/120627142512.htm
>>33762548Aren't scooba masks like $500 minimum?
>>33762557I could see this being an emergency backup system if their enviromental suits fail, not sure if they could stay conscious but it would help to reduce the intant-death nature of spacewalks and exploring the martian surface if thats what you want for the game
>>33762611Depends on if you don't mind buying secondhand or not, but yeah, they do get pricey.I ended up with one after an estate sale for dirt fucking cheap, so I didn't know what they actually cost till a moment ago.
Just a thought, but since these gas masks are meant for RPG use and not actually to prevent NBC death... how about getting them one size bigger than they're supposed to be? Think that might make them more comfortable?
>>33762854I've never asked any of my players to pay to be in one of my games, and I feel like if I were to provide masks that don't actually function then they would feel cheated. But I guess it's only $10...
Here's something that seems so obvious but no one really ever sees it.The other side of the moon, EG the side we can never see since the moon and earth rotate at the same speed.
>>33763306personally if I was your player I would prefer to be less comfortable and get a functional gassmask out of the deal
>>33763351This is going to sound super stupid I'm sure, but... how did we get that picture...?
>>33763407satellite during a new moon?It's away from us but towards the sun. we take a pic from the sun side.
>>33763407Are you fucking retarded? We have satellites in orbit around the moon.
>>33763407we've sent ma probes as wells as manned lunar orbeters around the moon, all of them have taken pictures
>>33763407Have you been living under a rock for the past 50 years, son?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploration_of_the_Moon
>>33763613>>33763622>>33763626>>33763866In my defense I forgot about the lunar lander buses. I was trying to figure out if Voyager or anything like that had taken a look-back photo of the moon as it passed or something.
>>33756516You could always get throat mics for everyone; they pick up sound from vibrations in the throat, AND they tend to distort the voice.The earpieces are usually soft and pliable, too, so you could get one under a GP-5 easily.
>>33764287That sounds totally badass but -very- expensive. What's something like that run?
>>33764310http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=throat+micThe world is your oyster.You -will- need radios to connect them to, though, unless you get a bundle.
>>33764278I really really like this picture. It makes Mars look so... real. Like it's a real place, a real planet, and you can go there and exist there. You wouldn't ever know there is no air in that shot. It could just be Arizona or something.
>>33764369>>33764310>>33764287The upshot to the radio thing, besides sounding authentic as fuck, is that you can potentially record the audio of your fuckery.
>>33764726OP, just tell them there's a small buy-in for the game.You'll cover part of the expenses for the equipment (but don't tell them what it is!), they'll cover the rest, and they get to keep it when the campaign is over.
>>33764726Wouldn't that be like 10 hours of audio?
>>33764853Possibly, but I'm sure it could be broken up into chunks for consumption by /tg/
>>33762400Not that anon, but 3 is incredibly important from a mystical/folkloric point of view. It's regarded as a magic number in most western traditions and some eastern ones as well--the trifecta of past/present/future, heaven/earth/hell, the three wishes a genie grants, and so forth.4 and 5 are just as important in a practical sense, but 3 has a lot more spiritual and literary significance, at least in western cultures.
3 is a spiritual number and one that induces a natural flow5 is a familiar number, 2 hands make a decimal number system.7 is a hard limit. Have more than 7 of anything and you can start with the Venn diagrams because you need to structure it in order to manage it in your head.50-150 is the final range. More than that and you'll be hopelessly lost without some structuring. Evolution brought us here, and it may take us further. But that's where it's at: 50 for chimps, 150 for homo sapiens. It's the maximum social group size we were made for. Beyond that there anonymity and stereotyping.I bet for ancient Martians it was something like 1200...
OP here. I did some digging and throat mics are at least $15, usually more, and that would double or triple the buy-in price. I went looking for alternatives on /g/ and someone had a great idea that I legitimately hadn't though of: handsfree headsets like pic related with their activation buttons pressed down, plugged into smartphones/tablets that are running a walkie talkie app, and for power reasons connected to wall chargers. It's so simple, means they only have to buy an extra $3 headset that I might even just pay for for them, and utilizes tech we all already have!
>>33764628http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Photos_by_the_Curiosity_rover&fileuntil=PIA17360-MarsCuriosityRover-Waypoint1-DarwinOutcrop-20130907.jpg#mw-category-mediaEnjoyAlso check out Odyssey and Spirit
>>33766137I feel like this is new age spiritism gibberish
>>33767659More anthropology based on neurology.Spiritism uses numerology and assigns meaning.
>>33762548You could probably make good knockoffs of the helmet in that picture with a large fish bowl and some black paint
>>33768679be awful heavy. I'd use jumbo size hamster ball.
>>33768720Maybe we should take this to /cgl/ or /diy/? I'm sure those good folks have an idea or two.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x07z1rr_bjg>Video about how we built this is coming uphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLOVS5Fl1OYBetter imo
>>33775843Real estate must be hell there.
>>33712171Wait, I missed it, which two videos/sounds were decided to replace the missing two in this set?
>>33779704I didn't see any specific links posted but likely something from the collections linked.
>>33776621>Those spin modulesSweet
>>33762194Have you had a look at Orbital?Its set in 2100. Very hard Sci Fi.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TtHYIrIPmEYou might want to run something rules-lite, but Orbital has some great fluff and ideas. (as well as all the hard rules for getting a Deep Space Vessel from earth orbit to the orbit of some random moon of a gas giant.)
>>33712171Found a neat substitute for the screech link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRI2Fa8ARDE
>>33784301Any idea how to cut out a section of the audio from a larger video?Also, why the hell was that guy trying to make a feedback loop?
>>33785141Use a site to download the video as an .mp3 file: http://www.pwnyoutube.com/watch?v=iRI2Fa8ARDE2: Use Audacity to edit the file.3: Discover that you can edit all kinds of stuff in Audacity without any trouble. Start experimenting. Lose track of time.
>>33712171>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC0h4ttvLlw&feature=relatedFound working link on internet archive:https://web.archive.org/web/20111222093447/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC0h4ttvLlw&feature=related
>>33712171>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XocjG6CmvD8Google search for youtube url says it was "Worlds most dangerous RingTone", and you can find it herehttp://net.madringtones.org/new/21/395376/files/395376.mp3
>>33785419Dude, can you imagine. Can you imagine the moon cracking open one day and there's a damn gigantic skull at its center. And it's staring directly at Earth. And it's been there for billions of years.
>>33785662my cat did not appreciate this one
>>33785685>moon rotates as Earth orbits>always the same face facing usWe thought it was a mere novelty of astronomical bodies.We were wrong. If someone puts that in a game, do tell how your players reacted.Also makes moonlight makeouts really fucking uncomfortable.
>>33785685I've found my next wizard mission. Terraform the moon into a giant skull.
>>33785988I was just thinking about that, I remember learning in astronomy years ago that one side of the moon is much denser than the other. We thought it was just because a different kind of rock formed on each side. We didn't know it was because one side housed the back of the skull
>>33785685GOD IS DEADWE ATE HIS CORPSE
>>33785988>We thought it was a mere novelty of astronomical bodies.But it isn't novel. That's just what tidally locked objects do. It is the exact opposite of novel. It is entirely mundane.The moon is gradually slowing down the earth's rotation. Eventually the Earth won't spin in relation to the moon.
>>33785662Jackpot of Numbers Station sound captures:https://soundcloud.com/the-conet-project
>>33785439>>33785662Excellent detective work. I'm impressed they both still work.
>>33712171>[YouTube] Odd jamming on 6600kHz (embed)Bunch of fa/tg/uy comments from one year ago wot
Look at all those fucking stars. Seriously.
>>33710707oh yeah that. I saved the entire thing into a pdf for future reference. Never had a group interested sadly.
>>33787039Is that you in the original thread that posted some .pdfs towards the end?
>>33786964My god, it's full of stars!>>33784623this is badass
So I read through the original thread (great read and I highly recommend it) and it occurs to me that the game ran from mid-afternoon until dawn the next day, and that it only came to an end when every PC was dead. Wouldn't it be better to have a specific end to the session, and maybe offer a way for the players to escape?
>>33789894How would it even be ended? It seemed to just go on forever. I guess once a certain threshold of horror or PC deaths occurs they could mysteriously find their way out?
Curiosity's landing on Mars, in full color 1080pThe beginning shows the heat shield being jettisoned. The lander brakes using parachutes, and near the end of the video its random swaying from side to side stops when the retrorockets fire.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waEiMKdNgGU
The Mars Undergroundexplains Mars Direct plangreat details to make it hard SF before the Horrorhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDWvsdEYSqg
Two-hour long recording of Numbers Station UVB-76, "the buzzer"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7cAyZ8jXfs
>>33796063And then after a while of that... thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_irhm3HCQw
God damn it you fags are fucking with my bathophobiaDo you have any idea how long it took me to get semi-comfortable with Kerbal Space Program?
Watch Symbols of an Alien Sky. Whether the claims they make are founded or not, it provides great material for a setting. Planets swerving near other planets; electrical discharge between them ripping huge chunks of rock up from the surface. It's wunderbar
I ran a game very similar to (and inspired by) the Mars one using GURPS the other day. Never seen my group more terrified.
>>33759758Because it is the not-evil way of thinking
>>33796521Details, man, details! You can't just leave us with that.
Bumping with an image so I can read this awesome thread later
I think Jupiter would be the creepiest solar body to orbit.
>>33801507Well, we were going to archive it next to the original thread, as soon as it got enough resources to warrant being a supplementary thread.The problem is it's not doing that very fast or well.
>>33802277This is a more serious Awake discussion than we have ever had, even when he was here. There's research into lost a/v links, product searches for props, considerations as to the scope of it all...It's a really nice thread!
>>33803071they let's archive it then?!
>>33803295i meant suptg where the other one is, but okay that works too.
>>33803071Oh yeah, speaking of props.Ozone. Run a large unshielded electric motor for a few minutes before game (disassemble a fan, get one from a junkyard, whatever) to generate that ozoney smell that puts people on edge. Plastics. Find some cheap dollar store toys and unwrap them before game. Store them in an opaque bag and lets the weird chemical funk filter into the room.Spices: weird ones like cloves, saffron, and red tumeric for catacombs, caves, or esoteric strange sites.Blood: Serve a steak the night before, keep the juice. Soak paper in the juice. Use during game. Make sure to throw it out within a day or so, or it'll get really disgusting. Remember, the whole point is subtlety and unsettling setting, so don't go overboard. If you're using gas masks, dose them during breaks or when a player's not looking.
>>33803614New car smell vehicle deodorantLight arcs make ozone, like a tazer or a spark gap and a neon lamp capacitor.Patchouli oil.Mars isn't aromatic. The methane is in the ppb and the rest of the atmosphere cannot be detected by smell. Near a vent the methane could be detectable though.If everybody is okay with drinking... you don't have to DRINK the alcohol. If you close the windows, cover the crack under the door with a towel, take a bucket of boiling water, and pour a bottle of hard liquor into it, then everybody without a gas mask will be squinting and drunk in 20 minutes. And I'm not sure which filter will keep out ethanol.
>>33804315http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/24928926Looks like the Author of Martian Death Quest came back at some point.
>>33804315>New car smell vehicle deodorantCar dealers must get that stuff by the tanker truck. You can smell it on their cash deposits for days.
is it ok if I dump, real spacecraft pics, even if thy would be inappropreate for a trip to mars?
>>33805647I mean I'mma do it but if you guys want me to stop just tell me
>>33805671OP i think it'd be cool if you could find a way to do this in an industrial setting, like if your school has steam/acess tunnels finding a way to do it in there. or at least the boiler room of your house or dorm, this would do wonders for setting up atmosphere
>>33805719find a way to do it legaly though, I've been caught breaking into a building before and It's not an experiance I'd reccomend
>>33805758also horror musicNurse With Wound - Soliloquy for Lilithgod-tier dark ambient, I suggest getting the full album>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1ElqV3jG8EVag - Disposaldroney noise, would be great for the backround and still allow your players to focus>http://vaghnw.bandcamp.com/album/disposalEmptyset - Collapsemisimalistic noise techno, this would be great to add a broken, glitcy, high-tech feel to your game, again I suggest getting the full album>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu8tspoGuWwthese things can eaisly be found on soulseek>http://www.soulseekqt.net/news/node/1
>>33804429excellent find! Going through it now to see what more I can get out of it>>33802277I'd say we've got a pretty good accumulation of materials so far
>>33806139also I suggest removing any obviously contemporary or comforting looking items if you play in an industrial setting, those would spoil the mood and full immersion would really help for a game like this.
>>33806214and if you really want to go all out a simple brown work jumpsuit would also help set the mood, I think you can find them at wal-mart for ~$50
>>33806384I don't know how much your game will deal with the technology of your spacecraft, or the base for that matter, but if it does here is a site full of helpfull info about realistic future tech>http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/index.php
>shuttle program is dedH-hey guys, it's really just because they're moving onto a new, more efficient platform, r-right? I mean it;s not like all those lifting body and skypiercer concepts were for nothing...
>>33806525>>33806581I know that feel bro.
>>33806612if you could find a way to make them drink water out of baisicly capri-sun packets that'd be perfect, I think they sell water bottles like that now
>>33806700and this is it for real space ships, OP you better report back to us about how this went
I help. Brown jumpsuits are a good idea.
OP here, got half of the gas masks! Went to a local army surplus store and the owner helped me pull out a crate of GP-5 gas masks that hadn't been opened since it was sealed in 1981. The crate only contained infant masks, size 0, size 2, and size 3, so I was only able to get two size 2s, but they came with the bag, filters, and the entire crate's worth of anti-glare stickers since the guy had just been throwing them out. So now I just need to find a size 1 (small) and size 4 (XL). Hopefully the other surplus store near my home has them for a decent deal, if not I'll have to go online.Now I just need to catch up with this thread!
Something that bothers me about the original thread is that the players had access to a rock saw but only ever used it as a weapon. Why would they not try and cut into the walls of the tunnels, or some of the buildings/art that they find? Since that was never covered, what if players in other groups that attempt this try and cut into the walls? What would happen?
>>33808470They find identical corridors that loop back impossibly, bending minds and physics. They find a river of pitch, tar, and sand. They rock saw takes so goddamn long to cut anything they give up as air starts running low.
>>33805719That pic is like humanity's giant metal dick powered by explosions piercing the cold, frigid vagina of outer space and impregnating it with the future of Mankind.
>>33808470Upon slicing into the red rock of the walls a chunk falls off and reveals absolute darkness. Whatever ambient music is playing has its volume increased to near-maximum for as long as they're near the hole. No lights shone into it make any difference. A suction effect is sucking the air out of the corridor, pulling anything not strapped down on the astronauts towards the hole. If a tool or hand is stuck inside it is violently pulled in, and only great strength or teamwork will free it. If a head is inserted the player is jerked forward until his whole helmet is through the hole, held in the tunnel only by the width of his shoulders, and before the group can act he is bodily sucked into the hole through the ripped-open top of the suit. His naked body is dragged out of the suit and into the hole, leaving the suit intact but crumpled up, like a vacuum had been formed inside. The PC's screaming can be briefly heard but any look into the hole reveals nothings. Occasionally over the session his screams can be heard coming from walls or the floor, and eventually he is found in the fetal position, naked, and covered in bizarre but non-life threatening injuries and markings. He has no memory of his time beyond the walls.
Floors are supposed to be flat. Nobody builds a hallway with a 20 degree slope towards one wall. Nobody builds a circular room with a raised dome for a floor. On earth and on our space stations, we like nice flat floors, or floors that curve pleasingly where spun gravity is available.But this shit. These narrow bands of raised stone, these ridges and whorls and wave-like crests from all directions... who carves rooms like this? What sort of thing found this comfortable to walk on?
Julian tore a hole in his suit using the rock saw. I saw him. I saw him patch it, and carry on, but the patch isn't good. I can see the thermal layers underneath. The others haven't noticed; it's dark down here, and the dust is everywhere. But Julian should be dead. His air gauges are reading nil. I saw the oxygen frost in the air. I saw the hole in his suit. He should be dead. He needs to be dead.
Our EVA suits are well designed. Outer layers, radiation foil, heat radiators, fluid recyclers, the whole nine yards of earth science and fancy-pants engineering. Literally. These are fancy pants. What they don't tell you about is the sweat, the smell, and the pain. Your suit smells like ass and oil, baby powder, plastic, wet cotton, rotting food, and stale water. Your fingers are jammed tight into six-layered gloves. They hurt all the goddamn time. Your fingernails fall off after a few days and if they grow back you pull them off with pliers. We all pulled ours our and scorched the roots before we left Earth orbit. They... didn't tell the folks back home about that one. Or about the catheters, the IV lines, the spinal braces, or the thousand other indignities astronauts go through just to function where man wasn't meant to function.And now we're on Mars, and I swear to god I can feel something crawling inside my suit, between the coolant layer and the rad foil. It keeps... sliding. Hiding from me. I can't feel anything in these gloves. I can't bend my neck in this helmet. I haven't told the others, but I think they know, somehow, and they're keeping away from me.
Mimics. Fecking mimics. I swear to god nature loves to fuck with us. Octopi can change colour, shape, texture, become whatever's required. We need to be more like them.
>>33728081I googled the videos, showing scientific articles they were posted in and the titles listed in the articles.
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>>33801776> IT IS!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1Yi58jtNdY
>>33810719Yeah, that was the video I was thinking of, though they got the band rotation speed wrong.
Well guys, we've hit bump limit. Thank you all for contributing, you've been very helpful. Hopefully the information in here will be useful to others trying to run the same session. I will be certain to report back on how the game went for me and my players after we've run it sometime in September. Thanks again, /tg/.
>>33811913>I will be certain to report back on how the game went for me and my playersHurry.