You are Zhu Xing, from the city of Xu Chang. You have governed the city of Wu, eliminating bandits and criminals while recruiting the former-bandit Zhou Tai. With Yuan Shu having declared himself Emperor, Lu Bu's forces prepare for a campaign against him under the Imperial decree.Character Profile: http://pastebin.com/UTDjnUuXCity of Wu: http://pastebin.com/XG1sZsvuPast threads: http://archive.foolz.us/tg/search/subject/three%20kingdoms%20quest/
Here is a terrible looking paint job map that likely has some wrong things in but doesn't matter on the general scale of things. The X is where you are attacking, the circle is where Wu, your city, is located. I made a mistake last time saying it was Shou Chun, when it is Lu Jiang that you are attacking.A few things to note: Lu Bu's territory looks enormous, as does Shi Xie. These territories are large, but historically were less populated with less concentrated cities and villages and had more barbarian tribes compared to the middle and northern areas of the map. The large territories held does not a more powerful land base and resources. Cao Cao and his northern territories during the time of three kingdoms formation always had the better manpower and resources than Liu Bei and Sun Quan.
Time for Best Quest.
The council and discussions end, with Lu Bu declaring a campaign against Yuan Shu. You walk out of main governmental complex, mounting your horse and taking preparations to leave. There is much to be done if you want to provide a substantial effort in the attack against the new Zhong “empire.” However, some doubt and a pint of worry hover around your mind and heart. You have heard rumors of Cao Cao, the man said to be a crafty hero in times of war, and you wonder if your forces should be making moves that benefit him. As you walk out of the gate of the administrative building, you stop your horse and rub your chin. Chen Gong was the man who presented the two plans to the officers and Lu Bu; perhaps you should discuss matters with him to gain a better idea of the campaign and what to expect. >Visit and discuss with Chen Gong>Leave for Wu
>>34072679Chen Gong time!
>>34072679>Visit and discuss with Chen GongIf nothing else, we need to know quantity and quality of troops he's expecting us to field.
Im not saying i have been reading through the archieves through the weekend and stayed up till 4AM to be hereBut i totally have
>>34072679>Leave for WuWe must begin preparations at once
>>34072679>Visit and discuss with Chen GongCan't see the harm, we're in no rush
>>34072679>Visit and discuss with Chen GongWouldnt hurt
>>34072679YES! IT IS BEST QUEST! We should see Chen Gong first. It won't take long and we need to plan. Also, when we get back, I say we have a Rally to get more support, defame Yuan Shu, and get the people ready and willing to volunteer to protect our land and fight off that rat in emperor's clothing.
>>34072708Good to have you, brother
>>34072679>Visit and discuss with Chen GongWho wouldn't want to strategize with Brother Gongtai?
>>34072679>>Visit and discuss with Chen Gong
>>34072679Visit and discuss with Chen Gong.
>>34072708Welcome. Prepare to pursue the Lu father and daughter, as well as ignore Chen Gong should the name Cao come up twice in a row.
>>34072708I stay up until 3. Makes going to work at 6 kind of rough, but whatever.
So, posting the plan from last thread:We can equip about 10k troops well with our available and expected gold, split into something like2k cavalry2k xbows6k infantryThis leaves about 1k gold for ships and siege. We should find out how important ships are going to be in this campaign, because if they're not very important, we can sink all that cash into siege units.We'd probably need to do 3x improve farm as our first action, since that benefits 2 seasons of harvests and we'll need significant suppliesAfter that, we should probably3x recruit and hope we reach around 12k total troops, since we'll need at least 2k garrison in Wu After that, we should train and look for additional officers.
>>34072744I'm actually going to disagree with the rally idea here since that's going to take up one of our action slots.Our Wu priorities need to be recruiting and training soldiers. We have to leave behind a garrison and 5000 troops just isn't cutting it. Maybe recruit one more officer so Zhou Tai won't have to defend the city by himself.
>>34072805No traditional or horse archers? That doesn't sound good for the flexibility of our force.
>>34072824As far as i know we have never encountered or used horse archers. We're not mongols.
Guys, we should look to Cheng Gong to help us write a final letter to Sun Ce before we go to war.Subtly encourage him to defect, but that we'll welcome him after the war
>>34072805We should probably also start putting our brother and sister to training.Brother could be trained by Gu Yong or Yu Fan aswell as getting some WAR training from Zhou Tai.Sister could study under Cai Fan learning poetry, singing etc aswell as Admin stuff.
>>34072845>wants to write even more creepy fanboy mail.
>>34072805Our season is Spring and we already harvested and got our taxes. We won't get harvest until the fall. I say our first set should be a Rally, Recruit, and Train. We should also outfit our men in armor at least to begun with.
>>34072834Both our character and Lu Bu are horse archers.
>>34072805Actually, I redid the numbers and I believe the numbers were off. We get 1080 gold for the entire year, we already got 540. We don't get 540 gold every season. From the last thread:>Spring and the new year soon comes. You gather some of the taxes and add them to your treasury. (+540 gold). Taxes and harvest will be obtained at the start of every Spring and Fall, to make things easier than at the end of those seasons. I'm going to have to look at the numbers again, but we can fully equip the 2k cavalry and the 2k infantry but we won't be able to fully equip all the infantry. Also I recommend improve farms as the summer action. We already got the spring harvest, so we should use spring to recruit troops and see how things go from there.
>>34072834Xiliang had them, which makes sense as to why we haven't seen them.>>34072805Remember, we actually need gold to supply our troops with, otherwise they leave.>>34072860It would be the last at least
>>34072893>Remember, we actually need gold to supply our troops with, otherwise they leave.Raian said that we don't have to worry about gold upkeep costs afaik.
>>34072679>Visit and discuss with Chen Gong
>>34072679>Visit and discuss with Chen GongOnly smart thing to do
>>34072893>Remember, we actually need gold to supply our troops with, otherwise they leave.Raian said last thread to not worry about gold for our troops and officers unless we do something ridculous like 50k troops.The 540 gold is after upkeep.
You ask a nearby guard where Chen Gong could be. He informs you that he last saw Chen Gong heading towards the inside garden of a administrative complex, and you head towards the disclosed location.As the guard informed, you find Chen Gong standing underneath the patio of the garden, a small little building above a makeshift waterway. Dressed in his typical black robe and minister hat, you see the small-bearded man staring off at the distance with hands locked behind his back. With the flowers of Spring blooming, you cannot help but feel peaceful as you walk to Chen Gong.“Liu Yao built this place, you know?” Chen Gong states as you come to his side from behind. “A peaceful but weak man that we killed to take his land.”You let out a small breath of air.“Do you hold regrets, Master Chen Gong?”“Of course not,” he replies. “People must adapt to changing times. Liu Yao may have been an able minister and lord, but he was not suited for this era. People like he cannot change the way things are, nor take that step towards uniting the land. It is people like our lord, you and I that are to come top in these chaotic times. But even I cannot tolerate a man like Cao Cao who would butcher his own family.”Chen Gong tilts his head toward you.“And what brings you here, rather than heading back to Wu?” he asks with a smile.>Ask Chen Gong if your decision was correct or not>Ask Chen Gong about the campaign, and what you think you should do>Ask Chen Gong what the other lords will do
>>34072934>>Ask Chen Gong about the campaign, and what you think you should do>>Ask Chen Gong what the other lords will doThe first seems like a trap option, Chen Gong himself was indecisive last thread.
>>34072877Then should we spend an action or two to improve the markets?
>>34072817The rally is meant to not only get people fired up, but also get them willing to join the army. Right now, the people are meh to us, but Yuan Shu's actions are blasphemous for old china. If we use it right, we can have people join us willingly and in large numbers and higher moral. Who knows? Maybe loyalists will come to us?
>>34072934>Ask Chen Gong about the campaign, and what you think you should do
Shit I just noticed, if we are going to split Yuan shu's Territory with Cao cao in a join invasion Cao cao is going to be easily able to seize most of the population centres quite easily.
>>34072877We should focus more on the markets, food isn't so important as long as we don't get too many troops.Unlike gold we can't use it to support anything, or build things.>>34072934>Ask Chen Gong about the campaign, and what you think you should doOther lords are most likely to ignore it, although figuring out how best to support the campaign would be good.Can we also ask about Sun Ce too?
>>34072934>>Ask Chen Gong about the campaign, and what you think you should do>>Ask Chen Gong what the other lords will doOur course is set on this campaign. There is no room for doubt or regrets.
>>34072934>Ask Chen Gong about the campaign, and what you think you should doWe could really use input and information, here.
>>34072934>Ask Chen Gong about the campaign, and what you think you should do>Ask Chen Gong what the other lords will doThere's no point agonizing about our decision once made. Knowledge and advice about accomplishing it are much more important.
>>34072934>>Ask Chen Gong what the other lords will do
>>34072934>Ask Chen Gong about the campaign and what you should do>Ask Chen Gong about trying to get Cao Cao to send some troops by using his position as protector of the emperor as leverage.
>>34072934>Ask Chen Gong about the campaign, and what you think you should do>Ask Chen Gong what the other lords will do
>>34072945>>34072964No, see >>34072903 >>34072922We desperately need troops right now. We can't take it for granted that a single "Recruit" action will get us several thousand troops unless we've seen it in action. I say we recruit first in Spring. It doesn't make a difference whether we improve market or farm in Summer because the harvest season is Fall. If we recruit first, we can adjust based on the numbers we get.
>>34072934>Ask Chen Gong what the other lords will doI'm kinda hyped to see Lu Bu interact with some of the now-famous generals and warriors that he dueled while under the Dong.3 brothers v. 1 bu rematch when?
>>34072934>Ask Chen Gong if your decision was correct or not>Ask Chen Gong about the campaign, and what you think you should doAsk about Sun Ce's letters and if they could defect too
>>34072934>>Ask Chen Gong if your decision was correct or not>>Ask Chen Gong about the campaign, and what you think you should do
>>34072952Can we frame it as a recruiting action then with a rally add-on?
>>34073014Not sure if it's going to be included, it's a mix of history and whatnot.Liu Bei will certainly be a person who come across sometime or another in this campaign though.>>34072934>Ask Chen Gong about the campaign, and what you think you should do>Ask Chen Gong what the other lords will doCan we talk about Sun Ce with him, or?
>>34072945MArket revenue is gained in the fall as well. We may as well do both in the summer along with training. Recruit, Train and another action in the spring and Fall.
>>34072934>Ask Chen Gong about the campaign, and what you think you should do>Ask Chen Gong what the other lords will doDecision is made. Only planning now.
>>34072934>Ask Chen Gong about the campaign, and what you think you should doAsk about Sun Ce and getting him to defect
>>34073054One recruit action will not get us 7k more men. We'll need to use multiple actions, and doing them all at once so we can then train the total force is more logical than recruiting peacemeal.
>>34072934>Ask Chen Gong about the campaign, and what you think you should doMay as well include something about Sun Ce too. >But even I cannot tolerate a man like Cao Cao who would butcher his own family.”Nigga you killed his family too. Hell, in the TV series you were the one who instigated it!
>>34073049>Not sure if it's going to be includedI'm sorta referring to "At Si Shui Pass, I fought some brigand. A stupid, lowly bastard, but he put up quite a fight. I was to smote his head in until his brother came in to help. I believe their names were Zhang Fei and Guan Yu. If anything, I wish to fight one of them again... And kill that whiskered fool," Lu Bu says with a little vile. It seems some things happened at the second phase of Si Shui that placed bad memory on Lu Bu."I also fought some man named Xiahou Dun when I trumped that Cao Cao. He was not bad. Otherwise, I hear there is some lad called Ma Chao with the Qiang tribes that is particularly strong. Yan Liang and Wen Chou are said to be Yuan Shao's best warriors. I hear there is some capable man serving Gongsun Zan, but I forget his name."He's at least familiar with a bunch of capable warriors, and he's apparently already dueled the peach garden bros.
>>34073054So our treasury is currently 3140 gold after the Spring harvest. We'll have 3680 gold that's for sure spendable by the end of the year, if we are departing on campaign at start of fall, we can have 4220 gold. Since purchase is an instant action, we can upgrade a part of our army each season to make sure we don't fall short. If there's unforeseen circumstances, we want to have enough gold to take care of it.
>>34073033Yeah, that could work. Even wrote a little speech in hopes it would improve the odds. Of course, when we train, we should get our all star warriors in on the training as well.
>>34073113Ah, so he did include it, it didn't actually happen in history.
>>34073090I agree, I'm for spamming 3 recruit options (with the rally write-in >>34073116) or 2 recruit options and 1 seek talented people. I think for summer we can train, recruit, improve depending on our situation.
>>34072934>Ask Chen Gong about the campaign, and what you think you should doTalk about Sun Ce our #1 nigga too
>>34073115Start of summer you mean.I'm going to hold off on recalculating an army until we hear Chen Gong's ideas about how many siege engines and ships we need to bring.
I say we should at least get 3 more boats to defend our small transports.
>>34073165Oops, yeah, I actually meant start of spring or summer.
>>34072805I think we should get a few more boats. As you can see on that map where we are attacking is right next to the river so a naval battle is almost guaranted.
>>34073205We have no idea if the campaign will require boats. Yuan Shu will be attacked by multiple warlords from several directions, it's likely he's going to turtle up rather than try and face forces in an open field (river) situation.
>>34073237look at the map Boats will help extend the Range of our capability to strike which thins out how many troops Yuan shu can take with him when he takes the offensive.
>>34073237That might be a risky assumption. We know for sure that the campaign will require transports by looking at the map. I don't think we can afford to skimp out on warships and jeopardize a good portion of our army if there's even a slim chance that Yuan Shu/Sun Ce will attack us. Plus warships are always going to be useful in the South so it's not really a bad investment either way.
"Master Chen Gong, I have been thinking of the campaign and what plans I shall follow ever since the council. Even now I am thinking of my troop compositions and the right equipment to buy. Yet, I may not be able to perceive the situation as far as you. Please instruct me on what situation we shall see, and what the other lords shall do," you say to Chen Gong, clasping your hands together and doing a slight bow. Chen Gong lets out a small laugh."You are ever the worker, General. Then come, let me assess the situation for you," Chen Gong says turning around and motioning for you to sit on the table under the patio. He takes out a parchment from his shirt, and unfolds it upon the table. "Cao Cao will likely attack in the direction of Runan. I suspect he will contribute only a portion of his troops, now that we have committed to the cause. His lands and territory are still unstable; I suspect that part of his plan in tempting us to attack Yuan Shu was to secure his own lands. Especially in the lands of Bing and the northwest still dominated by Qiangs. Liu Bei will no doubt attack as well; the man cannot disobey an Imperial decree. He will likely contribute a meager force I suspect as that crafty Cao Cao has only left him with a small portion of Xu before they made peace. As for Liu Biao..." Chen Gong shakes his head. "Liu Biao is a careful, if not, overly cautious man. I doubt we can trust him to contribute troops to this cause besides checking some of the enemy troops on his side of the Chang Jian. Likely, the man will not even battle besides a few skirmishes."
>>34073275You look at the map. Our first target will be Hefei, and that's a land battle. Additional warships will not help logistics concerns.
>>34073237>Yuan Shu will be attacked by multiple warlords from several directionsHe's only going to be attacked (most probably) by us and Liu Bei.To be honest, we'll be LUCKY if we can face them on water, as we've ALL seen that we have a huge advantage on water, so it's most likely that Yuan Shu will hole up defensively in castles.
>>34073296Chen Gong points out the directions of attack on the map, then looks to you."General Zhu, we will be attacking from the Chang Jian. We will need warships to fight across the river, then a sizeable army and siege equipment to take the forts until we finally reach Lu Jiang city. I ask that you recruit at some ten thousand men, give them some training, naval as well, and get some siege equipment. Our lord and his elite cavalry should hold little problem once we land. The river battle and taking the enemy forts and city is what I believe you should contribute. Do you have any questions?">write in questions>otherwise, leave for Wu
>>34073303No it isnt, our target is Lu Jiang
>>34073316"Is there anyone I might be able to steal or wrest ships from, rather than having to tax Wu by building them?"
>>34073316>write in questionsSUN CE!ASK ABOUT CONVINCE SUN CE TO DEFECT!MENTION THAT HE WAS NOT CONTENT UNDER YUAN SHU
>>34073090Not necessarily, we don't know if a recruiting and training action are opposites in terms of determining the effectiveness of our final forces. Furthermore, we can only get them up to trained, while there are two tiers above that that we can only get from battles. We have average troops right now, which is one tier below the best we can get from training, I think.If it is a 1 to 1 conversion, then we can spend 2 actions training to 1 action recruiting and have the maximum effective fighting force that we can get through training
>>34073316>>write in questionsDo we have any more information on the naval capabilities of Yuan Shu's forces? And I guess the Sun Ce question because why not removing the enemy's best general is a good way to win.
>>34073365No. The majority of the thread is against this.
>>34073365fuck off homo
>>34073316>otherwise, leave for WuSo ships and siege equipment. Glad we recruited Gan Ning so we have at least some naval experience.
>>34073316Is it possible to get Cao Cao to send troops by using his position as protector of the emperor as leverage?
>>34073316>>write in questionsI am trying to see if we can swing Sun Ce to our side, do you know anything more about the scion of Sun Jian that might be useful?Do you think this is a worthwhile endeavor.
>>34073365No. This idea has always been stupid.
>>34073316So the main takeaways are:>Lu Bu will be doing all the heavy lifting since the 3 coalition members are only sending meager forces>Get 10,000 men army, focus on navy and siege equipment since we'll be doing river battles and siege
>>34073316Right. So calvary is not really needed, but lots of ships, siege, and probably armor, spears and crossbow men. Lu Bu has us covered calvary wise, but we need to make sure the calvary can get to the shore first.
>>34073390>>34073316We should also consider doing naval drills with our forces just to be sure we dont have an army of sea-sick landlubbers
>>34073365later man later.
>>34073316>>34073365It wouldn't hurt to ask now instead of having a shitstorm debate about it later At least Chen Gong can give good practical advice
>>34073316>write in questionsAsk him how many boats he expects, since we're not going to have the cash to buy enough for our entire 10k force.
>>34073374>>34073365>>34073400This is a good idea.>>34073427>LaterWhen? When is later?
>>34073452Never, since people who want to suck Sun Ce's cock should just leave this thread.
>>34073316>otherwise, leave for WuThink we got enough. Let's go. And please ignore the samefagging Sun Ce-loving faggot.
Raian, I would really recommend getting a direct vote on the sun ce thing now, to forestall a shitstorm later. Find out just how much support there actually is for this idea in a direct vote, rather than write-ins.
>>34073452Not really. Honestly, convincing him to join is unlikely, but we COULD use the discontent to have him split Yuan Shu's forces in half. He did have a lot of followers, and if they bugger off to bug Cao Cao, it might make his decision bite him in the butt.
>>34073374>>34073365>>34073400We may as well do it now, and have Cheng Gong shoot us out of the sky or support us.It'd end any discussion on it, so may as well.
>>34073499Theres regularly been a good amount of support for the idea.If we can even redirect sun ce off to another area of china, we reduce most of yuan shu's military strength.
>>34073507Lets put it this way.IF he *DOES* Defect, then it would be to us in this case. After all, we are friends, we send letters, we live in the southlands.This is just the final cream on the top.
>>34073499Eh, there's nothing wrong with asking Chen Gong a question about how realistic it is to have an enemy general defect If he shoots it down, then great debate over. If he says it's possible, then we can have an informed vote then. Right now, both sides are just doing meta shit about Sun Ce. The only actual information we have about Sun Ce are from the duels and from the Q&A
>>34073537>we are friends,No, we are not. We're a guy he promised to kill and we've sent him creepy fanmail.
>>34073542The relevant Q&A:>What do we know about the Sun clan's actual influence in the Southlands now? Obviously they are not going to conquer Southlands but are the Suns still remembered fondly?>1. None. The amazing thing about Sun Ce was he won the hearts of people in the South when he attacked it through his personality and sheer charisma. His connections to Sun Jian and having Zhou Yu gave some benefits, but otherwise, it was his own completes charisma. Seeing as how he never got to come to the South, even people like Zhang Zhao who was great friends with him doesn't care for him.Take from it what you will
>>34073537We aren't his friend. We are his rival. We gave him a nasty scar, made him, flee, occupy his land with his mom who he may or may not care for, and he is not one to bow to others.Sun Ce is pretty much our Lu Bu in the fact that he will likely bite our hand.
>>34073562I cant help but laugh everytime I see that 'creepy fanmail' posted.
>>34073574I take from that we'll be facing a rebellion sooner rather than later if we take him into our lands.
>>34073605If we wind up accepting him, we better have some ways of controlling him: Keeping him out of the South, not giving him his own domain early, putting him under us, building relationship etc etc If we just recruit him and then forget about him, he's sure to be a headache. I got no strong preference one way or another though.
>>34073677Probably split up his base.of the 4 uncles he has, 2 go to each city we have. To go under Lu Bu and Taishi Ci.Sun Quan and Zhou Yu can stay with Sun Ce under us.We might also need to release some of our own generals since we'll have a lot under us.
>>34073677Hostages man either Sun Quan or SSX, we'll treat them well but a tiger doesn't change it stripes after all.
>>34073316>>write in questions"Master Strategist, who do you recommend from amongst our forces to head the shipbuilding and naval training? I have in mind Gan Ning since he was once a pirate upon these waters. Do you know of any other notable persons besides Gan Ning who are masters of naval warfare?"
>>34073677>Keeping him out of the South,No reason to believe him being in the south will help, look at >>34073574> not giving him his own domain earlyHe's a general, not a lord. He doesn't GET land.If anything a Marriage Alliance between our two families would make sure that we stay together.>>34073712This isn't a tiger. He's not the little conqueror.
>>34073712>keeping this guy in our employ by taking his family hostageJesus christ you Sun Ce faggots are insane.
>>34073743Zhu Xing started off as a general and now he's a lord and prefect/inspector of Wu. That's what I meant by having land, a powerbase through which you can rebel.
>>34073748He's anti-sun ce you fucking idiot.The fact is that if Sun Ce rebelled he'd be facing most of his family being killed at any point anyway. Sun Ce is a front line general, not a civil officer.His family won't follow him around like a pack of sheep.
>>34073748exploring options man what have you floated?>>34073743he is still the son of the tiger though the pun was fucking worth it
>>34073712Hostage isnt a good idea.We need to make friends with him and then maybe tie our family to him. We might be able to marry our sister to him or Sun Quan.
>>34073789No, we need to kill him and his entire clan and move on. He brings absolutely nothing to the table we don't already have in spades.
"In Yuan Shu's camp, there is a man by the name of Sun Ce. He and his men are strong naval commanders, and I suspect we shall meet them on the Chang Jian considering their expertise. He serves an incapable man, and I wish to get him to our side. Do you have any suggestions to do this?""Sun Ce?" Chen Gong says raising a brow. "The pup of the late Sun Jian? I have heard some few notes that he is capable... If you are to say he is powerful as well, perhaps I should take notes to get rid of him..." Chen Gong says rubbing his chin."Sun Ce is a man who acts just and loyal. He is indebted to Yuan Shu, foolish lord or not. We have also allied with Liu Biao who was the reason for his father's death. I do not know if we can get such a man to join our side. Try it if you must, but I advise the general to worry more about our lord and winning battles rather than trying too hard on getting an enemy general on our side.""I see..." you reply. "Then besides these men, do you know of any other capable naval commanders on their side?""I do not think so," Chen Gong says with a shake of his head. "Yuan Shu's generals are experienced at fighting in the land. I do not suspect they will pose much of a problem. Though, the more I think of it, if Yuan Shu is not too big of a fool, it is likely we will be fighting Sun Ce and Sun Jian's old retainers at the river."You nod to Chen Gong, and tell him you have no further questions. Bowing to Chen Gong, you bid him farewell. "Safe travels General. And while being meticulous can be a key to victory, it can be detrimental as well. Have confidence."---------------------------------------------You return to the city of Wu. As of now, you still only have 5000 troops as you have spent the last few months attempting to clean up the city and raise support. Perhaps it is time now to recruit, train, and begin any other preparations you can think of.>write in action focus for next three months
>All this Sun Ce dickcravingJesus fuck I bet you faggots would choose to marry the bastard if it was suddenly revealed that he was a chick
>>34073782That reminds me of Ma ChaoWas there a bigger asshole in the Three Kingdoms than Ma Chao?
>>34073777Zhu Zing started off as much less.And to be honest, it's going to take him awhile to gain enough rank to gain land anyway. And at that point why WOULD he rebel? There's no point.It's like Guan Yu rebelling against Liu Bei while he was in control of Jing Province.
>>34073812Focus the vast majority of our time on recruiting. Use the rally idea >>34072952 if it would actually help with the recruiting. Is it Spring or Summer now?
>>34073812>write in action focus for next three monthsRecruit x3. We'll only get one harvest season, so building up either markets or farms will have minimal returns. We need to see how many troops we can get to start with.
>>34073812>Recruit>Recruit>Naval and Regular drill training.
>>34073812Recruiting focus for the first two months. Follow up with drilling for both siege and naval.
>>34073812Recruit recruit recruit.Tell Gan Ning to train our troops in naval battles.
one thing to remember is that unless Sun Ce gets killed, he's promised to come to us for another duel.Like Gongtai says, it's fucking weird to be chasing after him like he's Lingqi when all he's been is our closest "real" duel. on the other hand, jesus fuck, if he joins us, we just visit and play go or duel or drink or talk until our relationship is trusted
>>34073812Right, Sun Ce is a likely no go. First three Months: Rally to fire them up for recruiting, then double recruit? Also, let's get some stuff ahead of time just incase they try to raid or we need it. Don't assume the next year is peaceful. Maybe we should get the silk robe too to bolster recruiting and the rally further?
>>34073812Recruit Recruit and Training (Naval and land)
>>34073827>Not having homoerotic thoughts and cravings about true warriors of the three kingdoms Do you even Cao Cao? >>34073876Plus Zhu Xing's shit at improving things using his Pol. 40 gold with an above average roll was not encouraging.
>>34073827>implying you wouldn't fugg genderbent sun ce.Here's a big hint. Genderbent sun ce would probably have a complex about her father and be a warrior woman. That doesnt sound like anybody this thread wants to fuck, right?
>>34073946>wants toPast tense, anon.
>>34073812>Use the rally idea if it helps with recruiting>Recruit >TrainIf it's springIf it's summer>Use the rally idea>Improve markets>Improve farms
>>34073968even if we've already fucked her, we still want to.
>>34073946I believe you are talking shit about our waifu, in which case, you can fuck right off.
>mfw reading this quest and watching three kingdoms at the same time
>>34074012Try to ignore the irresistible urge to defect to Cao Cao
>focus on recruit troops, rally people to fight Yuan ShuRoll 1d100, avg of three.
>>34073946nope, too busy lusting over Holding hands and Cuddling Lu Bu's daughter>>34074032B-B-But his ability to use men of talent, his sharp wit, and verbal bitchslaps
>>34073812>Write a letter to Sun Ce (Shouldn't take an action should it?)"Bofu, it is time for us to fight once again for our lords. Under an Imperial Decree we are to fight Yuan Shu for assuming himself to be Emperor, no more needs to be said..""But, if the battle ends in our victory Sun Ce, then it would be wrong of me not to escort you back to the south lands, to re-unite you with your mother."This is also to make Yuan Shu suspicious of Sun Ce, which has been proven multiple times (Lu Bu, Ma Chao, etc) to incite mistrust and defection
>>34074012Right now at episode 15.Seriously that fucking Zhang Fei
Rolled 43>>34074058Zhu Xing, please don't drop the spaghetti
>>34073946>Implying we didn't just fuck Genderbent Lu bu>Implying we wouldn't
Rolled 16>>34074064"People of Wu! I come to you to talk to you about important matters! I am sure many of you have heard rumors of Yuan Shu calling himself Emperor and making his lands the state of Zhong. These rumors, as disgusting as they are, are true. It is disgusting that someone, with only his family's name and no real strength of body, mind or character would disgrace the very TITLE of Emperor so. Like a thief in the night, stealing things of great importance from the people and claiming it as his own, he mocks our way of life! What's worse, this rat will not be happy with the small kingdom he calls his own! Like he did but a year ago, he will likely try for Lord Lu Bu's lands once more! Last time, the fool attacked us while Lord Lu Bu was freeing Wu of the various bandits and miscreants here, hoping to attack us then while we were busy. HOWEVER, his forces were repelled, his great commander sent fleeing, and if that fool comes to invade Wu, I will see to it he his sent back with his rat tail between his legs! But, I cannot do this on my own. Brave people of Wu, Noble people of Wu, I request your assistance in protecting our lands and our homes! We must show this state of Zhong what TRUE men are like! All men who are outraged at this, all men who wish to protect your homes, all men who wish to prove yourselves in the fires of combat, volunteer yourselves to Wu's army! You shall be trained by our best, given proper wages, and have the chance to fight against this thieving rat Yuan Shu! In the name of the Han, Lord Lu Bu, and the TRUE Emperor, let's show Zhong what Wu is truely capable of!"
Rolled 85>>34074058Lets go.
>>34074075Fuck,I just cockblocked a 88
>>34074072Zhang Fei is a cunt, Guan Yu starts all right, but jesus fucking christ his ego when he's in charge of JingWhy is all of Shu such a shit?
>>34074113They take after their leader.
>>34074113Wei Yan is the best though
>>34074110I support this.
>>34074112Don't be too hard on yourself. At least you didn't roll 14 or something
>>34074110Wall of texttl;dr
>>34074110>>34074064This is good. Lets include these
>>34074177Let's not, faggot.
>>34074064The letter to sun ce is shitty but the making of yuan shu suspicious is delicious.
>>34074113Hey, Zhao Yun was pretty cool.
>everyone with this hard on for Sun ce>even if we do somehow recruit him this will probable kill our alliance with liu biao
>>34074150Absolutely amazing did you make it?
>>34073812>it is likely we will be fighting Sun Ce and Sun Jian's old retainers at the riverAre we about to get lampooned by the Zhou Yun?
>>34074207>everyoneThere's like 2 really dedicated cocksuckers.
>>34074209Exactly why we should make him defect while we have the chance.
>>34074150I would have posted Cao Cao Trolls Yuan Shao HARD.webm but I seem to have misplaced it>>34074229oh great, LuBu just hulked out
>>34074208Nope, found it on /eagg/.>>34074207But anon, this means we won't have to put that mediocre person Gao Shun on the Five Roaring Gales.
>>34074229>dat 1I'll take the dice's advice over yours, thanks.
Rolled 91>>34074248>Gao Shun>MedicoreI will fite you m8
>>34074110>>34074064I'll support this. Even if the Sun Ce letter is shitty it's better than sending nothing at all
>>34074248>Gao Shun>MediocreI'll fight you
>>34074248>talking shit about Gao Shuni'll rek u m8
>>34074248you dissin my m8 gao shun?
>>34074209Oh yes. Chang'an will be nothing compared to this confluence of spaghetti.
>>34074270Just have to be careful about Zhou Yu. He might use it to make us think he want to defect and then trap us.Bastard is crafty
>>34074207As long as Liu Biao dies and Liu Cong comes up, things will be fine.We also just need that cocksucker, Huang Zu's head.
>>34074244I already diced once.>>34074111i just forgot to clear text in the email field.
>>34074248>Gao Shun Mediocre>Calling the Formation Breaker mediocreHe was actually Lu Bu's number 1 general historically.
>>34074292We wouldn't accept a defection entirely.Still have a duel to win, right?
>>34074292Remember we don't know about Zhou yu so we can't exactly be extra cautious.
>>34074110>>34074064Can I include these or am I too late?
>>34074318I fucking hope we end up killing him in a duel so that there'll be no more clamoring for his tiger dick
>>34074248>Five Roaring GalesAre we still doing this? Please let us still do this.
>>34074327There's only so many ploys you can do in a naval engagement. We just need to listen to Gan Ning and we'll be fine.
>>34074346then we take his sister as a concubine
>>34074346It's really getting obnoxious, yes. Especially since Chen Gong basically said it was impossible.
Rolled 35>>34074369Then Lingqi cuts our dick offRolling for evasion
>>34074351I hope we're still doing it. Every real 3 kingdoms warlord needs an Elite 5 pokemon trainers.
>>34074369Having the sister of a man you killed in your bed rarely turns out well.
>>34074346If we don't get murdered by him. Can we pick up reinforced armor before we head out on our campaign?
>>34074392Your dick flops on the ground, alone and afraid.
I don't give a shit if you're pro-Sun Ce or anti-Sun Ce. We have to duel him at least once more and also, anybody who brings up Chang An in any sort of support for an argument is a retard who should shut the fuck up or leave the thread.
For now you are in need of more troops and men for the future campaign. Right now the land has fallen in to shock and anger at Yuan Shu's declaration. It will be the best time if any time else to begin a recruitment drive.You call Gu Yong to your office. You instruct him to write a memorial denouncing Yuan Shu and calling for men to stop the false emperor. Gu Yong goes to work right away.In the next weeks, fliers are posted all over town and your men go around town reading the excerpt Gu Yong wrote for the populace :"In this year, a villain has risen from the pits of garbage and vile. Yuan Shu, a man who holds no virtue for Son of Heaven, his ancestors, nor the people have chosen to declare himself Emperor. He has condemned not only himself, but his subjects and ancestors to frightful shame and indignity. He sits upon a false throne, fattening himself while the people under his rule suffer and grow weary. The forces of Lu Bu will not tolerate this man. We shall march on the early Spring of next year, and obey the Imperial decree to end the traitor Yuan Shu. Let all virtuous men who wish to fight evil and remove a blight from our land join our cause."On the coming months, thousands of men join the army on your side. They shout and scream, "Down with the False Emperor! Down with Yuan Shu!" Your recruitment drive is a success. Your army goes to 10,000 troops in total, though now they are in need of training more than ever. Summer comes. (+5000 troops, training goes back to Green level)>write in actions for Summer
>>34074380Wat.No, he said we shouldn't do what Cao Cao did for Guan Yu, but we could give it some attention.
>>34074436>screenshotIs that a RTK Mountainblade mod?
>>34074369>wanting shutd's Nigga get the fuck outta here other concubines are fine though
>>34074436Train, Train, Search for Talent Also can we buy more ships now since the troops need naval training?
>>34074436Training lots of training. Land. Naval Battles. Siege Battles. We also need to buy siege weapons and ships.
>>34074436wait, can we ask Gu Yong how many men we need to leave as a defending garrison?
>>34074436>Training Naval and Land>Improve Markets >Improve Farms
>>34074436>write in actions for Summerrecruit, train x2We still need to get a garrison force.
>>34074436Write a letter to Sun Ce along >>34074064 those linesAS LONG AS IT DOESNT TAKE AN ACTION
>>34074465I think that's the Medieval 2 Three Kingdoms mod. >>34074436>>34074478Second this. If we have to leave like 3000 men behind, we only have 7k.
>>34074436Training.PurchaseSiegeWe want some troops to get experience on those weapons too before we march.
>>34074507I veto this mostion, there is no reason to
>>34074436Recruit, Train land, Train Naval
>>34074436We do training, naval and land. Gao shun should help with the land training.Gan Ning should help with the naval training
>>34074436>Recruit>Train>Train >Store Time
>>34074536>samefagging this hardjust go download some gay porn, faggot.
>>34074507>>340745361 minute between postsThou hast overplayed thine hand sirrah
>>34074436Right then, Double Training, and a Market should be good. We need to get all our military officers in on it. We should also start buying boats, armor, and siege. Actually? Maybe we can find a way to attach some siege to our war ships to sink enemy ships faster?
>>34074552okay the only thing worse than sun ce dicksuckers are people that claim samefag whenever people think differently than them.
>>34074507Veto, just fucking vote to join Yuan Shu if you want to be with him so badly
>>34074507eh may as well>Train >Train naval>Improve farms
>>34074577>a bit over 1 minute between all posts in support>not obvious samefaggingfaggot pls.
>>34074507I don't see any real reason not to
>>34072851I would like to bring forth this again.Just incase we die so we dont end up being a 30 in everything brother
>>34074507I'm picturing Sun Ce reading the letter and getting creeped out.Is this some master strategy to psyche out our opponent? To freak him out to the point that he would retreat rather than duel us?
>>34074577Fuck you. This is definitely one guy pushing it this hard. A lot of people see the merit in trying, myself one of them, but not to the point of putting it in every fucking action.
>>34074507Seconding.Train, train, recruit
>>34074436>write in actions for SummerRecruitTrainTrainprobably buy up another 1k xbows and 1k horses so those forces can train.
>>34074562He's been doing this for 3+ threads now.
>>34074436>>34072851Also, allow brother to continue courting Cai Yan. He can always get second waifus when they pop up.
>>34074622Yeah, but we have done everything that can be done. We just have to wait till we get to the battlefield to see itthrough
>>34074622>>34074592Personally, I think its two guys pushing it very hard. Which is not samefaggotry.
>>34074617that would be hilarious, but not worth the chance of it succeeding.IF we did it, it would be better to do it maybe a week before the invasion
>>34074602Because everyone else is starting to think our obsessions with the guy is really weird?I mean fuck, has the guy even sent a letter back? I bet he's getting creeped as shit over his fanboy
>>34074617>Zhu xing>Feared warrior & General>his enemies often received letters describing their demise
>>34074650The wording from the elder zhang made it seem we were corresponding back and forth.
>2 months of training>1 month of marketBuying equipment can come near the end, as there is no turn taking for it.1d100 roll, avg of three for market
I hope we just kill Sun Ce.Also I thought up of a style name for Zhu. Weifeng.Wei being mighty, and feng being wind
>>34074641We don't really need horses. Our primary role is to be the naval force. So more crossbows are likely better, along with spears for boarding and warship mounted seige to blow up other ships.
>>34074650Considering Raian said that one of the officers said out CONVERSATIONS VIA LETTERS, were inappropriate, yes.And considering this will sew discontent between Yuan Shu and Sun Ce, this is tactically a great move. One that Cao Cao used many times.See Ma Chao and his uncle
Rolled 76>>34074690Wait, what? market didn't get that much support. Sigh.
Rolled 63>>34074690LUCK BE A LADY TONIGHT
>>34074690Raian, my man, how many troops are we leaving as a garrison force?
>>34074690I thought recruit won over market?What good is an extra 40-80 gold going to do for us over having a full garrison force?
Rolled 76>>34074715>1d20100jesus mate, ain't that really a sphere?
>>34074701This. Even if the letter is creepy and shit, there's no reason NOT to send it.
>>34074733Nothing, which is why this is disappointing.
>>34074749Our POL is shit too. We really have no business improving markets or farms. Should have just done recruit, train, or search for talented officer.
>>34074733Market only got 3 votes. Recruit got way more.
>>34074699>>34074704>>34074705Then recruit it is instead of market.>>34074718However many you want. A thousand guards and soldiers are always assumed to be there not counting from your main force. If you are really fearful and afraid of a plot or something, you may leave additional troops behind.
>>34074740Yeah, no. Still vetoing the letter. I have a feeling this will backfire really bad.Also, I am picturing Dynasty Warriors Zhu Xing. Big guy, huge Window Boy that he uses for everything, and a strong desire to fight the strong. Like ancient chinese doom guy.
>>34074794Can we send a (final) letter to Sun Ce, devised between us and Gu Yong to make Yuan Shu suspicious of Sun Ce?
>>34074794An additional thousand or two should be fine then.With Zhou Tai commanding.
>>34074701I have to agree. Even with not liking sun ce much.If yuan shu kills him, all the better for us.
>>34074825>I have a feeling this will backfire really badHow? Why?Sun Ce wouldn't try something underhanded, he's too proud. So where is the risk?The only risk there is, is for Yuan Shu to execute Sun Ce and his family, and that isn't a risk to us.>>34074827This
>>34074862>Sun Ce wouldn't try something underhanded,laughingZhouYu.jpg
>>34074862>Sun Ce wouldn't try something underhanded, he's too proud.Zhou Yu and his advisors can get him to do all sorts of shit, and they're smarter than us in both stats and a meta sense.
>>34074830I think someone else would be a better choice. Zhou Tai is good at naval battles, which is what our segment of forces will be for.>>34074876Zhou Yu doesn't have a position in Yuan Shu's military I believe, and as such he wouldn't be around to command Sun Ce.
>>34074916Do we know if he's good at naval battles? I meant the dude's title is Captain of City Guards. Also no one else is really a good fit except Gao Shun and I need my Gao Shun fix.
>>34074876>>34074909You mean that guy who's even less known than Sun Ce has any influence at all in Yuan Shu's military?
Rolled 10>>34074862>Sun Ce wouldn't try something underhanded, he's too proud.Famous.Last.Words.And even if he won't, Zhou Yu almost certainly will>>34074916They're sworn brothers, he doesn't need to command him
The people that want to recruit Sun Ce want to for metagamey as fuck reasons.Everyone else wants to kill him for also metagamey as fuck reasons or out of spite for the people who want to recruit him.How about instead we play it by ear?
>>34074949>you mean the guy who is sun ce's sworn brother and does all of the planning for him?ftfy
>>34074958By ear would be sending the letter regardless because at the very least it'll fuck with the relation between sun ce and yuan shu.
>>34074992Just stop, cefag
>>34074951>They're sworn brothers, he doesn't need to command himWhat about the other officers?You know, the guys who would go "Why the fuck is this guy we don't know commanding our troops instead of the well learned Tactician that gave us the strategy we're using?"Oh, not to mention, if Sun Ce started doing that, guess who would get suspicious of him defecting?Yuan Shu!
>>34074958I just want to fight and beat him again so we can cement our reputation as a duelist.
>>34075005we did pull a letters tactic on Taishi Ci and his lord
>>34074962>All the planning for himWhen he was independent from Yuan Shu, correct.What about before that? Where did he receive his orders and strategies from?Yuan Shu's forces. So what would happen if Sun Ce decided to take strategies from Zhou Yu?Suspicion, unrest and more cause to believe he's defecting.
>>34075005Letter tactic is valid.We've used it. The Cow Cow used it.
>>34075026No, I'm pretty sure our reputation is cemented as a creepy stalker.
You focus a month on recruiting more troops. With Lingqi, you go around attempting to win more people on your side. Eight hundred more men join your side, Lingqi driving some of them away with her ferocity and anger. You promptly make fun of Lingqi, which she replies by kicking you in the rear.(+800 soldiers, 10,800 in total)With your command now in the ten thousands, you decide now is the time for training and drilling. You instruct all the generals to thoroughly drill and train the soldiers, while Gan Ning prepares the soldiers in naval exercise. Gao Shun shows great effectiveness in disciplining the men, while Gan Ning manages to get your troops up to part on the waters. "Idiots! Remember that shooting an arrow on a boat is different from shooting one on land! Keep your feet straight, stand firm, take aim!"Despite his boorish nature, and acting quite the opposite of Gao Shun in terms of discipline, you hear the men grow to appreciate Gan Ning who personally drills with soldiers and dine with them on equal terms despite being a ranked officer.(Troops grow to Adept training, naval training is at an Average level)You gain your income and harvests at Fall. (+540 gold, +500 food)>write in for Fall
>>34075051you are so mad its funny
>>34075051Creepy stalker AND duelist? Basically that one Corbray from GoT?
>>34075056>You promptly make fun of Lingqi, which she replies by kicking you in the rear.best girl
>>34075051Zhu Xing, Manifester of Spaghetti, Writer of Creepy Fanmails.
>>34075010>>34075049>>34075050>>34075034See! There's no reason not to do it. It's a perfectly sound tactic.Why is there even any opposition to it?
>>34075056>Train>Train>Search for Talented Officer
>>34075076three threads of obsessing over it
>>34075056Purchase 3 ballistas and 3 Catapults for 600 gold.Bring in Song Xian to train the troops who will man the siege.Gao Shun trains cavalry, Gan Ning trains naval.The rest of us do general training of the troops.
>>34075056>write in for FallTrainTrainSearch for Talent
>>34075056Write a letter to Sun Ce to encourage him to defect and to sow discord between him and Yuan Shu.
>>34075076because spite. You know how hesitation is now linked to benevolence for no reason? Now doing anything that isnt murdering the sun clan is considered sucking Sun Ce's dick. Even though, y'know, this thread has been built on sucking the dicks of Lu Bu, Gao Shun and Zhang Liao. Sun Ce is where we draw our faggoty fanboy line.
>>34074958No, we have in character justification to want to kill him because Chen Gong just flat out said that he is unrecruitable since Liu Biao is the reason for his fathers death and is indebted to Yuan Shu. Furthermore, he's making plans to off him. When your top adviser is making plans to off someone, you just do it.>>34075056>Naval training>Search for Talent>Search for Talent
>>34075109Jesus fucking christ, no.
>>34075056>>34075105This sounds good.
>>34075056Search for talentTrainLimited campaign to subdue the barbarian tribes in the area to up public safety and troop experience
>>34075076i just don't want to bother with it, we should focus on beating him first and recruiting him second
>>34075109This, can we please get it over with?It doesn't even take an action!
>>34075109Yes please.And >>34075105
Rolled 90>>34075109this >>34075105sounds damn good
>>34075109can you please drop the letter thing
>>34075056yeah keep up the training and search for some talent seems good. We can leave the extra 800 with Zhou Tai when we head out.
>>34075127This isn't ABOUT recruiting him, it's about making Yuan Shu distrust him.Which means that:1: He will not be fielded in battle and we will have more incompetent commanders to fight against2: Possible rebellions and infighting3: Stupid decisions made from it.There's NO POINT, NOT TO.>>34075109Seconding while heartedly for the reasons above
>>34075148The same two faggots have been keeping it going for three threads now, so it doesn't seem likely.
Rolled 47>>34075056>Train>Search for Talented Officer>Make brother train with Gu Yong and Zhou Tai and make him keep courting Cai Yan and make sister train under Cai Yan
>>34075051A yandere who craves anyone with a WAR over 90. They'll join Zhu Xing or he'll stab the shit out of them
>>34075109just send it already
>>34075188No. Don't listen to samefags samefagging.Raian, do a direct vote if you want that letter. It will not pass.
>>34075162>There's NO POINT, NOT TO.It's embarrassing to us.
>>34075109Lets just damn do it already. It'll stop the stupid debate entirely
>>34075056>>34075089>>34075182Adding this to my vote. Siblings need to get good.
>>34075056Training in all areas. We want to have crack troops.
Roll 1d100, avg of three for talent searching.
>>340751621: calm down2: infighting will probably happen with out a letter3: sun ce is not that big a deal its his strategist that you need to watch out for
>>34075201Are you fucking serious? That's a goddamn reason?What the fuck will that do? Kill our men? Make Zhou Tai betray us?Make Lu Bu decide we should go without that extra 5k troops?You're a fucking idiot!
>>34075228He's pretty strong. He was stronger than us when we dueled him. We got pretty lucky when we wrecked his face. Don't underestimate him
>>34075247Kill yourself cefag.
>>34075109Vetoing this forever now. This is getting stupid.Other than that, naval training, search for talent, and that quelling local bandits and tribes for training and public order.
>>340752282: If it doesn't cost an action there's no reason not to do it.3: Both are very dangerous, and if Sun Ce is out of the game then Zhou Yu certainly will be too.
>>34075253i never said we should just that the bigger threat is the strategist,
>>34075247>That's a goddamn reason?In old China, yes, actually.
Rolled 4>>34075162well the secondary objective is the possibility of recruiting him but you are correct that that is the primary reason.>>34075201>Pic related>>34075222Rollan
Since a lot of the people or against it, there will be no letter to Sun Ce.Training goes from Green --> Average --> Adept --> Trained --> Veteran --> Crack. Veteran and Crack level are achieved only by participating in battle. Once at the last two tiers, you can regular Green troops separated from them to keep an elite force.
>>34075277Why?It's stupid to oppose it, there's been no presented reason aside from half-baked suspicions and theories.Meanwhile it's been shown to be a commonly utilised tactic, which can only help us
>>34075285Why are we dragging in meta knowledge about this Zhou Yu prick?
>>34075285just because it doesn't cos an action doesn't mean we should do it via same logic.
>>34075314>Since a lot of the people or against it, there will be no letter to Sun Ce.Hold a direct vote please. There's been a lot of samefaggotry on both sides, and if you do this the arguments only going to continue to clutter the thread
>>34075314Thank you, Raian.
>>34075314>Since a lot of the people or against it, there will be no letter to Sun Ce.thank fuckin heaven
>>34075314Thank you. This won't stop the cefags from suggesting it every. single. time. but it's something.
Rolled 17>>34075314there is at least one guy samefagging on both sides
>>34075314>Since a lot of the people or against it, there will be no letter to Sun Ce.This is unprovable without a direct vote. There's a good chance both groups are one or two people same fagging.
>>34075314There's a lot of people arguing for it as well.Hold a vote, we'll see who wins.
>>34075341Cefags got shouted down by the entire thread once already and they're still pushing their shit. Another direct vote is just a waste of time.
>>340753725 people just thanked Raian for not sending Sun Ce letter in 40 seconds
>>34075314>Since a lot of the people or against it, there will be no letter to Sun Ce.Raian, just hold a vote.
>>34075314Raian, hold a direct vote.Make it permanent. That's the only way this can stop.>>34075388"Cefags" also won and got letters sent. So fuck off with that logic
>>34075315Because Sun Ce values honor and loyalty. He also owes a debt to his lord. We are the enemy whose allied to his father's killer and you want to send a letter telling him to betray his lord?
>>34075419No, they didn't. Raian took a write-in with a couple votes in support.
>>34075314YES, thanks Raian
>>34075314Why not just hold a vote on it.
>>34075427No. Who EVER said that?We're subtly encouraging defection, and attempting to sow discord between him and his lord.Not writing "pls defect to Lu bu"That's hardly even the point of the letter at this point
>>34075314just hold a vote already
At least this thread has the authentic ancient chinese feeling of cranky old men arguing about pointless things.
>>34075452to be honest another letter would at best be redundant and at worst be counter-productive.
>>34075452>"Okay, gotta be subtle">Pol 60>"pls defect to Lu Bu">"Perfect"Zhu Xing just wants to thrust his long spear in other warrior's faces. Is that too much to ask?
Rolled 35>>34075489not that anon but how so?
>>34075483Also authentic ancient chinese old man lust for cock.
>>34075506It would seem to be too obivious and lose its effect.
>>34075489No it wouldn't?The last letters were simply conversation, this one would be about the war and his lord declaring himself the Emperor.Hugely different topics
You spend the season of Fall training once again. Your troops grow stronger and more disciplined as you and your generals further their cause, and at the end of Fall, they have reached their maximum training capacity in general areas. Their naval training rises to Adept and you begin to grow confident that they can do well for the campaign. (Trained troops, Adept naval training)Small fires break out on your farmlands. You find out the fires were started by agents from Yuan Shu. (Farmlands now give 450 food every Spring/Fall)Winter comes, and your time to campaign will soon begin. What do you do for the final season?>write in for Winter
>>34075533Train Train Search for talented men/women
>>34075533>Hold a definitive vote on Sun CeGoddamn it, this is going to get out of hand if we don't stop it now
>>34075533Gonna try this again>Make brother train with Gu Yong and Zhou Tai and make him keep courting Cai Yan and make sister train under Cai Yan
>>34075533did we fail to find anybody?
>>34075533So talent search failed completely?Training x2Search for talentBuy stuff. We need to get our troops equipped and ships/siege bought.
>>34075533>Naval Training since our troops maxed out their land training>Search for talent >Hold Banquet for our officers
>>34075533Search for Talent, build ships, visit officers
>>34075533Live fire training.Bring the troops to pacify the surrounding tribes , root out saboteurs and help repair the farms.
>>34075561WORD OF QM SAID NO LETTER THERE IS NOTHING MORE TO DEBATE
And yes, search failed.
Rolled 27well if we are using >>34074064 there is little to suggest defection but rather defeat.>>34075533definitive vote for the letter so we can end this once & for all.
>>34075533On spot of training for naval.Manage family as in>>34075566Search for talent.
>>34075533Have our brother train with Zhou Tai and Gu Yong.Have our brother court Cai Yan.Introduce our sister to Gao Shun.
>>34075533>>34075566>>34075578both of these
>>34075582You want to do fire training in the middle of winter ?
>>34075533I'd say security for the most part. We need to stamp out any plots before we leaveMaybe a talk with our siblings. See how they're doing. Tell them what to do while we're gone.Or we can introduce Linqi to the siblings
>>34075561This, can we have a goddamn vote on it?If it's not going to happen now it's going to happen later.
>>34075533protect the area since we don't want any more firesUse the fact that Yuan Shu set them as means for claiming he is a giant faggot to gain support from Wu.Seriously, tell Cai Yan and Gu Yong to spin the fires so hard that Wu supports us utterly.
>>34075533Ouch.. we should build up the farms, and market. Our forces won't get any better in land combat and the rest can be trained in combat by fire. We need all the food we can get for the campaign.
>>34075533Holding a final banquet for our officers wouldn't be a bad idea actually.
>>34075630Do you not understand the meaning of live fire exercises?
>>34075452Did you even read the post? What anon wrote was 'encourage Sun Ce to defect and sow discord'.
>>34075533>write in for Wintertraintraintalent searchWe still need a strategist of our own.
>>34075533>Train>>34075582 for pacify the tribes>Feast for officers Can we also do shop for our items and our troops now?
>>34075533Search for Talented Officers, Train, Train.
>>34075633i like the idea of introducing lu linqi to our sibling
>>34075561I'd love for this to happen, but continuing it at this point is stupid considering how many people are meaninglessly arguing against it.
>>34075533If we feast, brother needs to get his moves on with Cai YanAre we still saving sister as a stand-by?
Rolled 32>>34075723I think so, I guess it depends what happens on this campaign.
Two more months of training are needed to get Adept --> Trained. One last action, vote on banquet, search, or fighting Shanyue tribes.
>>34075723We should save both of them for proper partners really.But yes, I imagine so.
>>34075723Sister needs to be introduced to Gao Shun and Gan Ning to see which one she likes more.
>>34075533banquet and train
>>34075746FIGHT THE TRIBESSeriously they'll backstab Wu while we're gone if we don't
>>34075746>fighting Shanyue tribes.
>>34075746SearchWe need a strategist. It's our main weakness now.
>>34075685we cannot train them any more by just training for land. They need actual combat for that. Actually, maybe a winter festival to bolster spirits after the fire and to provide support for those who lost their homes can help? Also, our bro needs to be trained by Zhou Tai and Gu Yong
>>34075688Pretty sure our siblings of all people ahould already know, hell I bet even fucking Cao Cao had a stake in the betting pool
>>34075748Nah.Shes one of our important political chips.We need to use her on someone better to secure alliances.
>>34075746Baquet over Ttribes over search
>>34075533>Increase security>Search for talent>Banquet
>>34075748No.Why would you even think of this?It's one of the stupidest ideas I've ever seen in these threads.
>>34075746Purge the tribesmen
>>34075748>Marrying our sister to a former pirate
>>34075746Search. Zhou Tai will be able to deal with shanyue while we're gone, and we can have a banquet after we win.
>>34075746fight some shanyue tribes
Also voting for fighting the Shanyue and whatever bandits might be around
>>34075746Banquet, bro on Cai tan
Guys, you realise we're not deploying on our own right?We'll have Cheng Gong with us
>>34075863Search is probably going to be a waste of an action. Our average was 50 and it still failed.
>>34075746Fight the Shanyue.
>>34075922On a single action, yes.We need to concentrate on it to get decent results.
>>34075922Y'know how Zhou Yu found Lu Su?He lost a battle.
>>34075932Except we are already spending 2 actions on training. So it's a single action again. Which is probably another failure. Shanyue or banquet both seem more productive than nothing
>>34075932Or just keep spamming it till the dice gods relent.
>>34075746>>34075777 hereChanging to Banquet
>>34075950But i was agreeing with you.Using it on a single action is a waste and we need to spend a whole month on just recruiting.
>>34075950The probabilities will not change if we spend one or a thousand actions on it. It's just a matter of repeating it till we get a solid roll.
>>34075821>>34075855Besides a Liu Cong is preferable to a Gan Ning for a traditional girl like our sister. >>34076001Oh, my bad.
>>34075875Gonna change it to Banquet
>>34076017>not wanting Gao Shun
>>34076017We need someone like that for our Brother too, not just our sister.I'd suggest one of Liu Bei's to introduce a royal lineage into the family, but y'know.There would be a lot of opposition to that
>>34075792he probably started the pool knowing cao cao
>>34076064one of Liu bei's whats? he has daughters?
>>34076044Gao Shun's not a rough mannered former pirate at least. Gan Ning would be a great pal, but not someone you'd want to marry. >>34076064Why not Liu Biao's family members? They are actually members of the royal clan and not a sandal peddler.
>>34076077Maybe we shouldnt take Lingqi with us on the campaign. Cao Cao can sense a taken woman from miles away
>>34076044Oh gee, lets marry our SISTER, a VALUABLE POLITICAL ASSET, to a FUCKING NOBODY, that CAN'T GIVE US ANYTHING.If you want to be kind to an officer, get him jade, get him a sword, get him a horse.Do not marry him your sister
>>34076102Cao Cao has to kill us first before he can fuck Lingqi. its tradition
You spend the last two months on another naval training exercise. Your men groan at the aspect of more hard training in the cold, open waters of the Chang Jian but push through. By the near end of Winter, your men have learned to be just as capable as the naval troops of Jing. They learn how to properly fight on the rocky ships, row the ships in to formation, and use the waves and winds to their advantage."You're a damn slave driver, you know that?" Lingqi complains to you as Winter soon comes to an end. You think that perhaps you have pushed the men too far, and have given too much duties to the generals on all the focused training."We will hold a banquet as the new year comes, in honor of our starting campaign and to end Yuan Shu. Give a flag of wine to every soldier for their hard work, and allow them to participate outside the halls as well, " you tell Lingqi.>personal gold you want to spend on banquet (50 is considered great and extravagant)>Zhu Yang will court Cai Yan, unless objected>choose an officer for Zhu Yue to court, or no one if you still want to keep her out
>>34076113Speaking of gifts, I hope we can buy copies of the stuff we have.Cheap effective goods to pimp out our generals.
>>34076113>not wanting your bro and sister to hook upmachiavelli pls. You've been dead for hundreds of years.
>>34076087Considering he's been settled down for quite awhile, I would think Raian would have considered him boning his three wives a little more.
>>3407612740 goldokGao Shun
>>34076127>choose an officer for Zhu Yue to court, or no one if you still want to keep her outFucking NO ONE.I'd object to Cai Yan too but retards have already set them up together25 Gold.
>>3407612750 goldYes on Zhu Yang courting Cai yan Our sister courted by Gao Shun
Rolled 99>>34076127>>personal gold you want to spend on banquet (50 is considered great and extravagant)40 gold>>Zhu Yang will court Cai Yan, unless objectedYes do it>>choose an officer for Zhu Yue to court, or no one if you still want to keep her outNone
>>34076127>>choose an officer for Zhu Yue to court, or no one if you still want to keep her outGan Ning>Zhu Yang will court Cai Yan, unless objectedNo problems from me.
>>34076127>>personal gold you want to spend on banquet (50 is considered great and extravagant)50>>Zhu Yang will court Cai Yan, unless objectedYup>>choose an officer for Zhu Yue to court, or no one if you still want to keep her outNone
>>34076127>40gold>yes>Just introduce her to people but do nothing more
>>34076127>choose an officer for Zhu Yue to court, or no one if you still want to keep her outKeep out.20-40 Gold.
>>34076127Welp looks like banquet was a good idea40, no objections, none
>>3407612735 gold-Gao Shun for sister
>>34076102We're not married yet so she might be somewhat concealed from his senses
>>3407612740 gold.No opinion on the others.
>>3407612740 goldYesGao Shun
>>34076127>>personal gold you want to spend on banquet (50 is considered great and extravagant)>>Zhu Yang will court Cai Yan, unless objected>>choose an officer for Zhu Yue to court, or no one if you still want to keep her out40 Gold.Cai Yan a cute and a ok.None for now. Save the political capital.
>>34076192>>34076127Changing Gan Ning to Gao Shun.People going 'no one' are being dumb. We aren't a king, marrying our sister to a valued subordinate is fine and our sister is starting to get old. They're being so precious of her she won't end up marrying anyone and will be an 'old maid' before long..
>>34076127>personal gold you want to spend on banquet (50 is considered great and extravagant)40>Zhu Yang will court Cai Yan, unless objectedok>choose an officer for Zhu Yue to court, or no one if you still want to keep her outGao Shun
>>34076183Our sister is 19. Look dude, i know you want political allies. But women in this time period spoil pretty fucking quickly. we still haven't impregnated Lingqi and her biological clock is ticking as well. We need heirs somewhere and if our wife is too busy fighting to pump out kids we need our brother to fuck one out of cai yan or our sister to pop one out and fucking soon. If our brother impregnates cai yan THIS Year, we can't play him for at least 15 years. Which means 214.
Roll 1d100, avg of three for poor Zhu Yang who failed last time.
Why the fuck is everyone voting for Gao Shun?Does have a Kingdom that's his under his Horse?Does he have political power under his hat?Does he have anything we don't?
>>3407612750 gold, with some gold spent on giving the troops who trained so hard some nice food as well. They worked hard, they deserve some reward before the big battle. All from our personal gold of course.
Rolled 30>>34076267Spaghetti must be genetic
>>3407612740 goldAnd Gao shun, we need to marry our sister.
>>34076262Then marry her into the Liu Family across the way.Then marry her to a powerful family in the south lands.Then marry her to SOMEONE who isn't a NOBODY.
>>34076271Our sister is 19. If we wait any longer, proposing she marries a political ally will be an insult moreso than a fucking gift
>>3407612740 goldsounds good to meGao Shun
>>34076271>Does he have anything we don't?A better nickname
Rolled 85>>34076284>>34076285>>34076294At least no flying noodles shall be bombarding her this time
Rolled 14>>34076284>>34076285>>3407629460Not bad.Also reposting a purchase plan from the last thread for personal gold:>Reinforced Iron Armor: 150 gold (+2 War) vs Iron Armor: 70 gold (+1 War, It's better than the Leather Armor...)>Silk Robes: 150 gold (+3 Cha) After selling our old armour set, that comes to: 265 Gold, easily affordable with our current cash.
>>3407631818 is considered quite young.She can be married off at 20-30, 25 pushing it.
>>34076317Cefag pls. We all know you're voting no just because you want to pawn her off on your mancrush.
>>34076317then vote for that. Instead from your fucking camp its nothing but quiet until people go "well, lets marry her to this asshole" then you just shoot it down. If you aren't proposing she marries into whoever you want her to marry every fucking thread, you can't bitch when she goes to somebody else. Dont be the do nothing brigade. Propose some actual ideas. not possible ones. Choose somebody faggot.
>>34076342I second this.I really want that reinforced armor. Everything else is second priority, but Cha offer the best buck for its value.
>>34076317Gao Shun is one of the best generals in the army and the commander of Lu Bu's calvary when Lu Bu isn't around.He's worth it and he will treat her right.
>>34076349Oh look, it's the faggots who spam Benevolence every thread, seems they've chosen a new target.
>>34076317We already have political ties to the Liu family through our master.Fact is y'all are acting like our guy is the leader of a faction and not a subordinate himself. We aren't power brokers or kingmakers.I also think its a mistake to get too hard core into politics right now.
Rolled 64>>34076349>Cefag>CEFAGHE FUCKING SAID TO MARRY HER TO SOMEONE WHO WASN'T A NOBODY YOU FUCKING FAGGOT
>>34076205changing my vote to introduce her to Gao Shun
>>34076381You're right.But what does that bring to US?Prestige? Power? A stronger family name?No, nothing at all.
Rolled 98>>34076357Chosing none is a also a valid option.We don't need to choose yet. We have power on our side, we can afford to wait for a good opportunity instead of jumping on the closest one.
>>34076342I'm okay with this right now>>34076388Yeah, it's not like Zhu Xing's really that interested in politics and alliances. He just wants to be the ultimate warrior.
>>34076396And? He'll turn right around and offer her to ce with a ribbon on top when he gets the chance.
>>34076416No harm in just introducing her to him
>>34076413You're about twenty minutes too late.>>34076388If we don't get into it now, it will hurt us later.Honestly, why don't we just ask her who she wants to marry? Should help us.
>>34076426No, that dude's been fairly consistent about wanting Lius or some powerful family in the South.
Rolled 37>>34076426you know this how? hell how the fuck do you know he is a Ce fag?christ anti Ce fags are becoming just as bad as Ce fags
>>34076416Chen Gong said not to hesitate. You are hesitating and looking for some golden oppurtunity that aint coming. Either start asking Raian to tell us who the powerful eligible bachelors are or quit fucking whining that whoever our sister is marrying isnt good enough for her. You're like an asian grandma.
>>34076442>Honestly, why don't we just ask her who she wants to marry? Should help us.Didn't Raian say that she is a good girl and would defer to our judgments? Plus she hasn't really interacted with them yet.
Rolled 48>>34076388By definition, we ARE a kingmaker.We have made Lu Bu our King by encouraging him to kill dong zhou and our various actions in Xu Chang showed that we are not political inept.
Rolled 7>>34076442>Asking a woman who she wants to marry
>>34076420Someone have that quote about generals who can't into politics being retards on hand?I feel some people need to realise that politics is basically everything Cao Cao rode upon, along with his troops.
>>34076459Because he's using the same fucking CAPITAL WORDS to push his idiotic plans as before.
>>34076480Then you should probably hope for another TKQ, because in this one Pol is our dump stat and we're an honorable warrior.
>>34076483And you're not using capital letters at all, same as the people who post retarded decisions all thread.
Rolled 59>>34076483so in other words you've got nothing.
Rolled 100>>34076463I will happy to be the asian grandma. The power behind the family. You do realise this is exactly what they are.I see that none of the options are favourable. She will marry none until a better candidate steps forward.
>>34076414Would we honestly get anything from a political marriage? We are a subordinant, not the lord. Giving our sister to a comrade to cement ties, camarady, and possible nephews to serve as body guards for our kid, we won't get much of anything. If anything, giving her to a random lord may have them use her as a hostage.
>>34076507The politics stat doesn't mean all that much, we just need to make the right decision. It also rises the more we interact with it
>>34076521Or until her womb becomes a shriveled husk. In the words of Shakespeare, "sell when you can you are not for all markets"
>>34076553The pol stat is secondary. You're trying to change Zhu Xing into someone he's not.
>>34076527It would helpful in governing our land of Wu if we picked powerful Southern nobles. Lu Bu gave us land to govern, we are basically lords. It could be useful down the line if there's a succession crisis or for favors if there's a need to use soft power instead of "ZHU XING SMASH". That's coming from someone who's a big fan of Zhu Xing Smash
>>34076527It'd solidify ties between The Lord and us, make our name more well known, if he's a lord within our own lands we'd gain more power, externally we could create a new ally as well.
>>34076602We're marrying fucking lingqi, we don't need further solidified ties. Also, you're talking about LU BU. machiavelli-ing it up will piss him off, not impress him.
Rolled 11>>34076598>bringing up soft poweranon I suggested this back when we were smacking the southlands & got shredded by anons there is no way it will work.
>>34076575I'm not that anon, but if making smart decisions raises our Pol, I'm all for it. We gain nothing by making dumb decisions because it doesn't raise our primary stats. It's not really a either/or thing. Not saying that the marriage thing is one of those decisions however.
>>34076575Yeah, I'm not.And you shouldn't be either. We're not Lu Bu with politics, but neither are we Zhuge Liang. We're a good middling.
lets just admit it guys, only reason we haven't hitched our sister off to anybody is we're hoping ot make her into a warrior princess like sun sister so if our MC get's whacked off by some bad dice rolls we play as her and enage in yuri relationships with lingqi while ci-fags get NTR'd
>>34076574Her market price still commands a valuable sum.Until a point at which her value drops too far, there is no reason to sell wagyu to beggars.
>>34076602True, and as one of Lu Bu's best generals, wouldn't the next city likely go to Gao Shun? Zhang liao already has one, and Gao shun is next in line. Might be a good idea to show trust now, then elevate him to lord when we win the next city.
Because marrying Sun Shang Xang to Liu Bei worked out well for the Sun family in the long run.
>>34076657Now now, don't shatter the poor anons dreams. They want to try and be all subtle and political maneuvering even though they're godawful at it and don't have the stats to fall back on when their idiot ideas fail.
>>34076650N-No...Wh-what gave you that idea?HE KNOWS TOO MUCH
>>34076651the quicker she pops out a kid, the less time we have to wait to play an heir.
You invite the officers for another banquet at your halls. You decorate the halls with pictures of battles and heroes of the past, and spend a good amount of money on presenting fine food and wine. To improve the morale of your soldiers, you buy them casks of wine and allow them to have their own food and banquet at the barracks. Standing tall before the hall, sword placed downright on the floor, you give a rousing speech to your officers."Generals, in a week we move to put an end to the so called Zhong empire and the man who has beset us with so much troubles in the past. I am honored to fight together with all of you, and I wish us success in the next campaign. I thank General Gan Ning for giving us the naval expertise we need, General Gao Shun for his diligence, General Lu who shall strike fear unto the enemy, General Song who has supported our battles since the beginning, and Captain Zhou Tai for ridding the city of bandits and miscreants. Ministers Gu, Yu, and Cai, I thank you for helping me administer the city, and I suspect no problem with you three taking care of the realm while we are off in the campaign. To all of you, I give a toast, and to Yuan Shu, I give a cursing."You raise your glass in the air, and the officers raise theirs to match with a nod and "Lord!"The rest of the banquet goes well. You have kept your sister Yue from seeing anyone in particular, but she manages to speak well and politely with the other guests and some of the men compliment her beauty. On one side of the dining table, your brother discusses matters of the state with Cai Yan and they both get along splendidly. He manages to present a poem he wrote to her as well, impressing the lady. A marriage proposal will likely work in the near future, should you want it.When the banquet ends, the officers all leave in good note of you and thank you for the event. Your soldiers appreciate you as well, and thank you the next when you go around the barracks.
>>34076653No. Zhang Liao and Taishi Ci don't have cities. Lu Bu, Zhu Xing, and Zhang Zhao are the city holders. Taishi Ci is assisting Zhang Zhao and Zhang Liao is helping Lu Bu.
>>34076653We show enough trust to be honest.I don't see what everyone is so worked up about.
You collect the income and harvests at Spring (+540 gold, +450 food). With the campaign soon underway, you should now buy supplies and equipment.4230 gold to spend on troops>>Improved Spears: 1 gold for 5>>Improved Armor: 1 gold for 5>>Strong Crossbows: 1 gold for 5>>Horses: 1 gold for 5>>Catapult: 100 gold for 1>>Siege Rams: 100 gold for 1>>Siege Towers>>Ballista: 100 gold for 1>>Warships: 100 gold for 1305 gold to spend on personal equipment>Stalwart's Spear: 250 gold (Spear, +3 War)>Killing Edge: 250 gold (Sword, +3 War)>Reinforced Iron Armor: 150 gold (+2 War)>Rattan Armor: 150 gold (+1 War, Very strong and light against blades and arrows. More injuries from fire however, and you look like a barbarian)>Black Blaze: 100 gold (Horse, slightly fast and strong)>Champion: 150 gold (Horse, +1 Lead, slightly fast and strong)>White Mark 200 (Horse, +1 War, fast and strong)>Family Banner: 100 gold (+2 Pol, People recognize your clan better and your fame grows slight better) >Treaties on the State: 250 gold (+5 Pol) >Art of War: 200 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)>On Stratagems: 150 gold (Int +2)>Trickery and Deceit: 200 gold (10% roll when doing plots and ploys)>Public Works: 100 gold (Pol +1, better city improvement)>Army Banner: 75 gold (Lea +1)>General's Fan: 75 gold (Lea +1)>Silk Robes: 150 gold (+3 Cha) >Gold Medallion: 100 gold (+2 Cha)
>>34076786Silk robes and improved armour
>>34076786>>Reinforced Iron Armor: 150 gold (+2 War)>Gold Medallion: 100 gold (+2 Cha)>Army Banner: 75 gold (Lea +1)Trade in our old armor and we have enough for all 3 I believe.
>>34076786>improved armor 9000 for 1800g>strong crossbows 1000 for 200g>warships 10 for 1000g>catapultx3 for 300g>siege ramsx3 for 300g>siege towersx3 for 300g>ballistax3 for 300gI'd rather our troops survive better than kill better. I want to get some veterans.
>>34076786Reinforced Iron ArmorSilk Robes
>>3407678610,000 armor: 2000 gold 10 warships: 1000 gold4 catapults 2 siege rams 2 siege towers2 ballista : 1000 gold1000 improved spear: 200 gold for our cavalry________________4200 gold Reinforced Iron Armor and Silk Robes
>>34076786>>Gold Medallion: 100 gold (+2 Cha)We can buy additional bling bling?
>>34076877Forgot we already had 1000 armor, change that to 1000 crossbow.
>>34076786reinforced iron armor for ourselves. Sell our regular armor for however much it is worth.Buy White Mark if we can afford it.The Army banner and the general's fan if we can not.As for our troops. 10 warships.5 catapults5 siege rams.1800 golds worth of improved armorspend the rest on strong crossbows
>>340767862 catapults2 rams2 towers2 ballista5 shipsArmor all our troops>Reinforced Iron Armor: 150 gold (+2 War)>Silk Robes: 150 gold (+3 Cha)
>>34076786Trickery and Deceit: 200goldWe desperately need this, especially with major fights against tricky strategists on the way.
>>34076900Not gonna stack
>>34076877Yea defense and sieging that's what I like. Lets go for this.I have no opinion on the personal equipment though.
>>34076786>>34076877>>34076901supporting the revised plan
>>34076877we already bought 1000 armor
Reinforced Iron Armor is bought. -150 goldSilk Robes are bought. -150 goldOld Iron Armor is sold. +35 gold40 personal gold remaining.Please come to some consensus on troop equipment.
>>34076860thats 4200. I'd say cut down on a ram and seige tower so we can spend another 200 of more crossbows. 3000 archers and 1500 soldiers on our big ships with little boarding ships should work well. Besides, the ballistas may have use onto of ships. Same with catapults.
>>34076952That'd be too heavy on the archers. We've seen that naval battles get to melee quite often.
>>34076951>>34076877My proposed plan has some support, but I just want to clarify that it should be 9000 armor and 1000 crossbow, not 10000 armor.
>>34076951Everyone wants at least 5 ships. And everyone wants at least 2 of every siege equipment. Come on. You have enough information to deduct that shit Raian.
>>34076928veto. We do not need calvary on a naval battle. We need crossbows. Same with spears. We want better range so it doesn't suffer from the wind.
>>34076952We're doing two things.Sieging and Naval. So cutting down on them doesn't help us>>34076877>>34076901Can you replace the spears for more siege equipment?We're going to need it, Lu Bu has cavalry down
>>34077009Yeah, I'm fine with subbing out out spears for 2 more siege equipment. Maybe rams?
>>34076951Go with >>34076877But I think we already have 1000 armor. Also I think 6 ships. We should leave some gold for when we come back.
>>34076993We don't need spears, we need to focus naval and siege.
>>34077025We could buy more horses.
>>34077038>naval battles>siege battlesI'll give you one hint what's useless in both.
Someone write up a revised total list with more siege and boats.We should be able to build more siege things while we're there though
>>34077025Actually can ballistas be used on our warships? If so, 2 more ballistas and not rams. >>34077038Cavalry's not too useful on the river
>>34077054we already have one here>>34076860
>>34077009Hmm.. well, I still think we need at least another 1000 crossbows for our big naval ships and some more spears will be fine, but no horses. We are pretty much supplying the seige gear and transportation/naval defense.
>>340770549,000 armor: 1800 gold 10 warships: 1000 gold4 catapults 2 siege rams 2 siege towers4 ballista : 1200 gold1000 improved crossbow: 200 gold _____________________4200 GoldHow about this?
>>34076860>>34077079These two are basically identical except for distribution of siege weapons (3-3-3-3) and (4-2-2-4) with the latter having more emphasis on ranged siege weapons. I think we have a consensus pretty much.
>>34077079i like it because we should move on
>>34076860>>34077079Either of these is fine.
>>34077079I like this list. I'll second it.
>>34077079I'd suggest balance it out to 3 siege rams and towers.We have two cities to take after all.
>>34077105Nah, it's fine. Catapults and ballista are better and multi-purpose.
>>34077105My idea was that we could use more ranged for naval battles. I would be happy to change it if that's not the case.
Jesus I can't work with all these numbersLet's get some ships and some spears and shit
>>34077152Less Lu Su more Lu Bu
>>34076951So is cheng gong going to be alright with us not fielding our full 10k in boats? Cause that would require 3000 gold to do, and would leave us with basically nothing for siege battles.
>>34077152>>34077172>Less Lu SuNo.
>>34077172Hey, we are at 96 WAR with equipment now. We are pursuing Lu Bu senpai
>>34077182What the hell do you mean?
>>34077079Then this is done, updated. 30 gold on treasury left
>>34077195>96 WARThat's... Guan Yu...
>>34077195He's probably at 110 war with equipment. It's a useless measure, just look at the base stat.
>>34077182Honestly, 15 warships is a pretty formidable fleet. The rest of the troops can contribute as well. We didn't have warships when we fought Yuan Shu earlier.
>>34077182we will have all 10k in boats, just 4500 will be in big boats, and the rest in little boats. They can still fight, and those big boats will certainly be better than smaller boats.
>>340772111 warship holds 300 men. 15 warships hold 4500 men. We have 10k. The math is not difficult.
>>34077231I want Zhu Xing to penetrate Sun Ce with his big fleet
>>34077195We should ask him to give us Red Hare if we win
>>34077260While making sure Zhou Yu watches ?
Guys, will we buy Art of War next? A +2 to both Lead and Int could be handy.
>>34077277We already got it.We should buy the city policies one.
>>34077277We already have it. We needed Trickery and Deceit, but morons voted for +cha even though we're doing a war right now.
>>34077220I wonder if we'll be on par with Sun Ce now in terms of strength. We had 87 WAR with +4 equipment and now 91 WAR with +5 equipment. >>34077277Good news, we already bought it few threads back. Check the pastebin.
>>34077219That Green Dragon of his is probably something like +7 WAR though. Therefore, the only solution is for us to take Green Dragon.
>>34077295We didn't have enough gold for both Trickery and Deceit and reinforced armor and armor was a shoo-in after our duel with Ce and our injuries in Jing.
>>34077312So we start sending him fanmail?
>>34077326With packaged spaghetti.
>>34077295>>34077320Guys we should really get the city policies one, it'll help us more in the long run.
>>34077326If the fags in this thread are any indication...
Rolled 47>>34077326>Brothers who is the Zhu xing?>Bah who cares pass the wine second brother
>>34077277>No write fanmails>No pursue the Lu>No Spaghetti spillage>No Yan for 90+A work in progress, anon.
>>34077326Why. We dont even know him. Havnt even crossed blades with him.
>>34077326>did you hear the legend of xhu zing>he mercilessly pursues his targets once he acquires them>Some say he even falls in love with them before he kills them
>>34077326>>34077341Cao Cao, seriously.Leave your Guan Yu obsession out of this.Oh god he's coming for us next
>>34077312Guan Yu doesn't have window boy though. >>34077326We can awkwardly compliment him on his beard
>>34077326>Sending fanmail because of our lust for his spear.There's no way this could be misinterpreted
>>34077326http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HVvgfFsU4kTons of fanmail.
>>34077369>Not wanting Cao Cao to pursue us
>>34077369>Not being gay for Guan Yu>In year 196
>>34077371It's hilarious since that worked for Zhuge Liang.General of the magnificent beard was it?
>>34077369>Oh god he's coming for us nextI swear to Heaven if he sends us noodles...
>>34077420We will suck them lovingly?
>>34077420He'd probably send meat, women, wine and jade.
>>34077438That sounds pretty sweet to me
>>34077452And if he kills Lu Bu he'll give us Red Hare too!
>>34077438Xing has a fightboner so his efforts will be in vain
>>34077420He sends us pictures of all his generals, showing us their war score.
>>34077469Wrong tack to take, cao cao. Gonna have to murder you messily now.
>>34077438>Zhu Xing ignores the gifts because he only cares about fighting strong manly men with a high WAR score >Cao Cao thinks that Zhu Xing is too loyal to accept gifts
>>34077469Cao Cao took many widowed wives, but what about the daughters though?
>>34077475>lingqi eventually confronts us about our porn collectionWHAT DO THESE MEN HAVE THAT I DON'T
>>34077438In that case, sell everything and buy books to boost Int, Pol and Lea, then send thanks to Lord Cao Mengde.
>>34077484Cao cao then tries the yasen
>>34077496WAR reaching 90
>>34077496WAR score of 90 or higher
>>34077508>she breaks down into tears and runs away
>>34077504>Not wanting the Red Hare
>>34077525Not in the pooper
>>34077438>>34077500We're going to milk the Cow before we eat it.>>34077489He ignores young girls to follow the path of NTR.
>>34077525>Wanting Based Bro Lu Bu dead over a horse
Spring finally comes, and the drums begin to play as you head out the gates of Wu. Behind you is the army you have gathered, and to your sides the generals accompanying you. Black banners with white-inscribed words indicating they are men of Wu and under your name. Gan Ning trots his horse closer to you, and looks at you with a confident grin.“It's finally time eh? I've been itching for a fight since we last fought on Jing. This time I get to see the famous Lu Bu in action, and with some decent companions around. Give me a chance for glory, yeah?”“So eager to rise in ranks?” you reply with a smile.“You betcha! I'm sick and tired of lords not using my potential and seeing myself wasted. I'm ready to show what I'm capable of out there!”You and your men travel in good spirits. Your men whisper and talk of defeating the false emperor and obtaining glory, and they seem quite eager to see battle. A good sign to start the campaign off. You meet together with the rest of Lu Bu's force. 20,000 men are under the command of Lu Bu, while another 10,000 are under the command of Zhang Liao. Chen Gong, Hou Cheng, and Wei Xu are all accompanying as well. “I have already scouted and learned of the enemy we are to face,” Chen Gong states. “It seems Yuan Shu has entrusted Sun Ce to lead the defense against us, while he himself fights Cao Cao leading 50,000 men, and the generals Han Xian and Yang Feng are leading an army of 40,000 against Liu Bei. It seems Sun Ce has around 20,000 under his command. I expect he shall meet to fight us on the river, and we would have to defeat him there before embarking on Lu Jiang.”"I have heard of this Sun Ce, he is the one you promised a warrior's duel, is he not?" Lu Bu asks looking at you. "What is he and his men like?""We would do to take care, they are veterans of Sun Jian, and an expert on naval warfare. We would do well to take some care," you tell Lu Bu.
>>34077548Ma Chao VS Lu Bu FUCKING WHEN
>>34077277>impress other officals
>>34077548>Lingqi's a better leader than usWell that's unexpected
>>34077548>Xiahou WalrusEvery fucking time
>>34077548To be fair, our duel and training probably put it in the 90s, hence why we claimed here after winning our spar.
>>34077559You and your men board the ships. Chen Gong and Lu Bu both remark that you have created a surprisingly powerful fleet, even outmatching theirs in terms of warships and naval training.“You are a dangerous man,” Lu Bu says with a smile and a pat to your back. “I will see this Sun Ce crushed with you by my side.”Your army heads toward the mainland, moving swiftly and the soldiers in high morale. A day of travel, and on an afternoon, one of your soldiers shouts that the enemy fleet is beyond you. You look towards the horizon and see a sizable fleet, with 30 or so big warships and the Sun banners above them. As Chen Gong predicted, it seems Sun Ce is your adversary here. A soft wind blows toward your direction, and the horns blow and the drums begin to sound for the battle to begin. Lu Bu walks forward to the front of his ship and shouts in a lion roar for someone to take the vanguard against the enemy.“Hey! Zhu Xing, let me take the forefront!” Gan Ning shouts to you from his ship. How do you organize the fleet's attack?>Attack head-on, an all-out attack against the enemy>Attack in a brisk manner, alternating ships and checking the enemy>Stay on the defensive, use ranged attacks
>>34077548>mfw I realize that Zhang Fei is a better warrior than Guan Yu
>>34077583Smart people, which option is best? I know staying defensive is the worst.
>>34077583>A soft wind blows toward your directionNot good.>Attack in a brisk manner, alternating ships and checking the enemyCan't we just ask Cheng Gong?
>>34077583>>Attack head-on, an all-out attack against the enemyWe're the General of Manifest Might, let's crush the peons in one fell swoop!
>>34077595Fighting is literally the only thing he had going for him.
>>34077583>Zhu Xing. Let ME have. THe FoURFRONT
>>34077595Zhang Fei was a fucking monster on the battlefield
>>34077583>>Attack in a brisk manner, alternating ships and checking the enemyBegin skirmizhing.We'll direct our full force when we see weakness
>>34077548Well at least if Lu Bu kicks it, we can still run to Ma Chao's strong, manly, 100 WAR arms
>>34077583OH LOOKSUN CE WITH TROOPS, A COMPETENT COMMANDER IN CHARGE.GEE, I FUCKING WONDER WHAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED IF WE SEMT THAT LETTER, EH GUYS?
>>34077583>Attack in a brisk manner, alternating ships and checking the enemyLet Gan Ning do his thing, he's the best naval commander we have. This plan is the middle of the road one, and probably best until we get a feel for what Sun Ce is planning to do against us. Rushing head on could get us trapped, being too timid could get us cut up by good charges.
>>34077595Well there's the whole incident with Ji Ling.If I remember correctly Zhang Fei was a pretty capable commander too. He was just a fucking asshole to his subordinates. He wasn't even a drunk.
>>34077583>Attack in a brisk manner, alternating ships and checking the enemy
>>34077583attack in a brisk manner, alternating ships and checking the enemyand by checking the enemy i mean checking out sun ce.
>>34077583>Attack in a brisk manner, alternating ships and checking the enemyIt's probably best to find a weak point first. It seems we're pretty even if we outmatch our allies' ships.
>>34077595To be honest I'd put him at a 100 later on in his career too.He fought Ma Chao for what, 3 days, and it was a stalemate
>>34077634>Finally, during a time when Yuan Shu was in desperate straits already, Ji Ling engages Zhang Fei in a duel. Despite being able to match Guan Yu for 50 bouts, Ji Ling is slain by Zhang Fei in 10 bouts.
>>34077583Well, judging by army size we more than double their army and we have a LOT of leadership. So long as we rush them fast and prevent them from using Huang Gai's fire attack strategies, we should at least crush their morale. Hopefully, all our training will prevent traps and wipes
>>34077628Relax anon.It might work out anyways since yuan shu might not be holsing sun ce's family hostage if he doesnt suspect him.
Rolled 65>>34077583>>Attack in a brisk manner, alternating ships and checking the enemyCHECKMATE SUN CE!
Roll 1d100, avg of three
>>34077583>>Attack in a brisk manner, alternating ships and checking the enemyand let Gan Ning do his thing
Rolled 2>>34077681rollling away
Rolled 96>>34077681UNLEASH HELL
Rolled 52>>34077688>>34077692>>34077701Hahaha, we're fucked
>>34077688>>34077692>>34077701And we lose. Welp, good campaign. gg no re.
>>34077704I'm sorry for rolling the 20, but at least I blocked the 2.
>>34077704The wind is against us, and so is Heaven
Rolled 22>>34077703>>34077688>>34077692We are all going to die!
Rolled 16>>34077688>>34077692>>34077701Zhou yu bought his game today I see
Welp, time for fire to burn all of our ships down.
Rolled 30>>34077707CURSE YOU MOOT AND YOUR TIME LIMITS BEFORE POSTS!
We have the numeric advantage, why don't we charge?If they choose to move any ship back, the wind will be against them.
Rolled 68>>34077701Well atleast i madea dignified 78. But yeah, we are going to burn
I hope Gan Ning spent his salary on improved armor because this is gonna hurt
>>34077767You're a little late m8You might want to find a life raft
>>34077767Because fire attack
Rolled 53At least reinforced armor should help us survive, not much luck for our troops on the otherhand
>>34077767Did we have an advantage? Chen Gong and Lu Bu said we had more than them and we only had 15 ships.
It looks like we are channeling our inner Liu Bei and Cao Cao today
To take my mind over our impending death, I read the character sheet again.We're at friendly with Song Xian. Who would've thought?
>>34077767But actually with 30 warships on their side, they actually outnumber us in heavy vessels.
Rolled 71>>34077818We shared some breddy good wine with him, a while back.
>>34077802I don't think we are going to get wiped out with 1 bad roll. The average was 33. With our WAR score of 95, and excellent vanguard commander, that should be a bad or mediocre result, but not Red Cliff 2.0.
>>34077832Yeah, but that just got us to appreciated.
>>34077840It would be lead and INT, not war
>>34077844Song Xian fucking loves banquet and we threw 2 sweet parties.
>>34077804>Chen Gong and Lu Bu both remark that you have created a surprisingly powerful fleet, even outmatching theirs in terms of warships and naval training.
>>34077840I just realized that chi bi means red cliff.
Rolled 93>>34077844Then maybe we made him horny when we dueled Sun Ce, or he just appreciates our banquetsI can't think of any other interaction to be honest
Rolled 65>>34077840Then how come this just started on my playlist?!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeJWwK7xG6Q
>>34077844Maybe he just got to like us more over time. We've been pretty cool to him all things considered
>>34077894He and Lingqi are the only generals who've been with us for all of our battles so far. Kinda surprising.
>>34077894It's possible. He seems to like banquets. And he seems to now know we are pretty work and duty and minded. Speaking of passive appreciation bonuses, our soldiers are going to be grateful for our purchase of armor for all of them.
>>34077688>>34077692>>34077701I immediately got up and started making my comfort food without a second thought.
>>34077936not as they're all drowning from the extra weight
>>34077936The banquet was a pretty great idea in retrospect. I didn't realize how hard we were working all the soldiers and generals and forgot about morale.
>>34077941>Chen Gong's face when he sees what's happening to our fleet
>>34077950I'm sure they'll appreciate some of that training right about now.Hopefully it included swimming lessons
>>34077970>swimming lessonsGod dammit. We never got to give lingqi swimming lessons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2X9kfszlz8Remembering Sun Ce and his men were outstanding generals and the impact they had last time, you order your ships to attack in brisk manners and to check the enemy ships every time they move. Sun Ce's fleet that was looking for an opening on your side manages to find little, and your maneuvers work. The ships on your side and the enemy move at a pace to match each other. When the first ships clash, Gan Ning notches an arrow from his bow and kills an enemy captain."I am Gan Ning of the bells!" he yells as he boards an enemy ship with his men.The vanguard under the command of Gan Ning manage to defeat the first few ships, and the rest of Lu Bu's forces follow. An hour in, the battle begins to sway on Sun Ce's side however and their men manage to do better as ships rams each other and the melee intensifies. Your side is pushed back a bit, though the stronger numbers on your side prevent any break in formation or rout.Ships under the command of Han Dang come to your side of the battle to engage your troops. They overtake one of your own warships and destroy it."Send these whimpering dogs back to their homes! The sea is our home, and no one can take it from us!" Han Dang yells as he engages more of your ships. Lingqi fires an arrow from her ship at the enemy general, but the man manages to block it with his buckler shield. She clucks her tongue in disappointment.You need to try and overtake that man fast.>Lead some ships to take down Han Dang and ram his ship>Order archers on your ship to focus fire >Personally attempt to board Han Dang's ship
Rolled 76>>34077983Feels. Too many feels.
Rolled 41>>34077983We might get a crash course session right now for all we know
>>34077990>Personally attempt to board Han Dang's shipLet's do it!
>>34077990>>Personally attempt to board Han Dang's shipHe's no Sun Ce, but he's going down
>>34077990>Han Dangwho?>Lead some ships to take down Han Dang and ram his ship
Rolled 35>>34077990>>Personally attempt to board Han Dang's shipLike there is any other manner fitting us
Rolled 22>>34077990>>Personally attempt to board Han Dang's shipIt is time!
>>34077990>Personally attempt to board Han Dang's shipWar is our best statDO IT FAGGOT
Rolled 16>>34077990>Order archers on your ship to focus fireThis, then>Personally attempt to board Han Dang's ship
>>34077990>Personally attempt to board Han Dang's shipGO HOME ATTENTION SEEKERAlso Raian, ask for rolls in the main post, and accept the first three, makes everything faster
>>34077990>Han DangI don't know who this guy is, but we should board his ship.
>>34077990>Lead some ships to take down Han Dang and ram his shipI'm scared of today's rolls
>>34077990>>Personally attempt to board Han Dang's shipThis unknown, no-name fucker is going down
Roll 1d100, avg of three.
Rolled 37>>34077990>Order archers on your ship to focus fireThis, then>Personally attempt to board Han Dang's ship
You people are making...whoever this guy is sad.
>>34077990[x] Board Han Dang's ship
>>34078035People would probably vote based on what the rolls are though; high rolls will get people to vote risky, low rolls will get the safe option.
>>34078051Too scared to roll
Rolled 64>>34078051Do as >>34078035 says next time
Rolled 47>>34078051FOR THE BOAD!
>>34077990>>Personally attempt to board Han Dang's shipRequest his help in writing our latest fan letter to Sun Ce while Window boy sneak attacks him with a KETTLE STRIKE!>>but naw we kill him
66.3Should be ok.
>>34078065Hope this wasn't me>>34078058The fuck is that?
>>34077990>Personally attempt to board Han Dang's ship>"WHO ARE YOU TO BE BARKING SO LOUDLY, KNAVE!?!"
Rolled 48>>34078060No, no.The first three rolls that are rolled. Not the first three rolls for the option picked
>>34078053This doesn't count because it wasn't quoted, right?Please tell me it doesn't count.
Rolled 31>>34078064Thanks, mate
>66.3Again? We have around 66-67 a bunch of times now.
>>34078053Please don't include this.Make it linked posts only. Please.
>>34078095It doesn't count.
>>34078104You realize that's amazing for a 3d6 average system, right?
>>34078104When you are going for an average of three, that's pretty much what you get for a decent roll.
>>34078141We do sometimes get a best of 3 roll when we are in an extremely favorable situation.I generally like the average system with stat modifier though.
Rolled 75Do something!!
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>760 postsThe fanmail discussion killed this thread earlier than planned.
>>34078208We probably still have an hour or two.
>>34078208Raian can always make another if he must. It wouldn't be the first time.
Rolled 13>>34078208Hope Raian makes a new one
>>34078208Maybe if people had just sent the damn letter it wouldn't be such a problem.I still don't see why people had such a problem other than just to spite a good plab
>>34078208We didn't hit the bump limit until like a hour and half in. That's pretty good for this quest.
>>34078227I think it would, actually.
>>34078227It actually would be the first time. But I think we will have enough time to finish today's session in this thread.
"Men!" you shout. "I will personally kill this man and take his head! Move to him!"Your men all shout in unison, and with their trained naval skills, make their way to enemy general's ship. Enemy ships begin to fire arrow seeing your command coming close, but your soldiers manage to raise their shields and block their fire. Han Dang who was engaging another ship is unable to move away in time as your ship rams theirs on the side, causing several of the enemy soldiers on board to fall on their feet.You waste no time in taking advantage of this opportunity. "Those who can brave demons and hell, follow me!" you shout as you jump across to Han Dang's ship. On your way, down, you tackle down an enemy soldier and lop the head off another. Your soldiers follow suit and begin charging."Don't let the enemy take the general's ship! Forward!" enemy soldiers shout as they move to intercept your troops. A melee ensues, with each side trading evenly. Han Dang charges out in the middle of the fight and comes sprawling towards you."You are the one who fought the Young Lord! I shall take vengeance for the injury you gave him!" he yells as he comes at you with his dao sword.>5 rounds of duel tactics, Strike > Slash > Sweep>roll 2d100
Rolled 17, 20 = 37>>34078256STRIKE
Rolled 4, 75 = 79>>34078256slash
Rolled 82, 14 = 96>>34078256Slash
Rolled 10, 61 = 71>>34078256Strike
Rolled 42, 10 = 52>>34078256Sweep
Rolled 19, 87 = 106>>34078256Slash
Rolled 13, 97 = 110>>34078256SWEEP
The dice gods are angry at us.
>>34078272>>34078273>>34078274>>34078277>>34078280The dice just fucking hates use today.
You guys suck.
Rolled 35, 97 = 132>>34078272>>34078273>>34078274>>34078277>>34078280>not one above 100Jesus Christ
>>34078272>>34078273>>34078274>>34078277>>34078280These rolls are just awful.
Rolled 32, 44 = 76>>34078272>>34078273Why.
I hope we get something like what happened with the Lingqi duel
Rolled 38>>34078256Can I make a Wind Bow roll?
>>34078304Because we didn't spend a turn to teach lingqi how to swim. and have swimsuit sex
Well, at least nobody will forget Han Dang now.
>>34078313No this is the day we die.
>>34078325Shit! This was his plan all along!
Rolled 2, 2, 1, 2, 2 = 9Oh oh, dem rolls!
>>34078347Well at least they're all draws or wins and our one loss is AGAINST OUR GOOD ROLL.Phew
>>34078347Strike > SlashSlash = SlashSlash < StrikeStrike > SlashSweep < SlashWe win 2, tie 1, lose 2. With fairly bad rolls.
Rolled 36, 98 = 134>>34078358Kongming, is this good?
Rolled 4, 32 = 36We'll come back strong the next few bouts, right?
>>34078397Not with your rolls
>>34078397Not with rolls like that
Let's dedicate this battle to Robin Williams- since it's basically suicide now.
>>34078407And JUST WHEN I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO SEE A THREAD WITHOUT THAT NAME IN IT
Rolled 60, 85 = 145>>34078405>>34078406To be fair I hadn't rolled the first time around and was just checking if the dice agreed
>>34078405Maybe.. judging on War stats, we have a good 10 on him, plus armor and window boy.We might just scrape by a win. Just.
>>34078407Why is everyone so fucking down about this?Our rolls really haven't been that bad, and Han Dang can't be pushing 80
Rolled 77, 19 = 96I cant believe we are getting our ass kicked by Han "Wu" Dang...
>>34078347Buying reinforced armor was the best decision we made all thread
>>34078441Why do they all have an arrow through their head?
>>34078442Nigga has 85 WAR
>>34078450'cause it's halloween
>>34078440I don't see why, it's only ONE round of combat.>>34078445We got two strikes in, he did too.We're equalling
>>34078450Lu Bu and Zhu Xing were having an archery competition
Rolled 27>>34078442PANIC is a traditional pastime of /tg/Also Han Dang's pretty gud
>>34078466But our rolls were terrible so probably got the better end of the deal
Lu Bu and Sun Ce will be so disappointed in our showing
>>34078464Compared to our 90s.That's a fucking huge difference
>>34078465Damn nigga! Where the hell did this fucker come from?
>>34078477Sure, but from what we've seen rolls are a damage modifier. Picking counters is what determines who gets damage.
>everyone panically over "literally who?"guys please
>>34078477But we also have some x-factors like being stronger, having window boy, and having recently upgraded our armor.
Papa Bu's gunna chastise us for fighting poorly Lingqi's gunna condescend and tease usGongtai's gunna blame our newfound obsession with Sun Ceor we'll die
We're not going to die from this. But everyone is going to mock us.
>>34078510Who the fuck did you lose to again, Zhu Xing?
>>34078510>>34078510THATS EVEN WORSE
>>34078513I...don't actually remember.
>>34078494see >>34078510Shamefur dispray if we give this guy a chance. So much for being Guan Yu-tier
>>34078510We're really not.Christ why is everyone so panicking? It's happened before, and things were perfectly fine.Remember Lingqi?
>>34078347We are sinking faster than usual. 8 threads until the thread's off the board and it's only been 4.5 hours. Part 2?
1.Han Dang -6 HP, Zhu Xing