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Greetings elegan/tg/entlemen and welcome to a new page of this quest.
Twitter to follow: https://twitter.com/TaleOfMonsters
Archive: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Monster%20Girls%20Quest
Character sheet of our protagonist: http://pastebin.com/X5pXHEcW
His companion (Emeth) : http://pastebin.com/uvANnf1v
Revised stat sheet for Hadraniel: http://pastebin.com/ZkRTYFHE
Misarchived part 101: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/29832663/

I’m very sorry for missing last week, thankfully my disease has completely cleared now so I’d like to make up for it today and tomorrow. I still haven’t finished Sylphis side story yet but I promise to have it up by next session, just need to get back to my usual schedule after this setback.
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Blood Magic, Practice of Sanguine, Rituals of Life; many titles adorned this craft pretending itself a science, once more this unreasonable world manage to baffle me. I thought yesterday night marked a new height of foolishness yet fate twisted my expectations again, all of them simple results of events unfolding where my eyes can’t see; who could have guessed Athena would develop a friendship with the Demon Lord strong enough to motivate a self-imposed mission and enough brazenness to bring back a demonic daughter? The quiet dutiful knight new ambitions weren’t mere words.

‘’Tsu…’’

I whispered her name, beside me I felt Emeth hand squeeze softly whilst the Tenko jaw clenched in silence, her sets of large tails swishing gently, betraying her nervousness when the makeshift teacher let out a satisfied sigh, smugly putting both her hands on her hips.

‘’I’ll gladly take time off class for some focus course if you delightful students wish it, dispensing knowledge is a researcher joy after all!’’

If her big, dangerous looking horns could twitch, they’d definitely shift to accompany her slightly goofy smile, instead her thick tail slapped the air a few time before scooping down, she relaxed quickly as her gaze shifted toward Tsukiyomi which invited everyone else eyes; only the Queen-Mother could judge this ‘’show of faith’’ now.

The vulpine queen-mother straightened her shoulders and talked swiftly.

‘’For now it’d be safer to have you stay on this floor as it’s been given to Ame-no-Uzume retinue, you may stay here as long as you wish; but please try and keep your lineage quiet.’’

Sieglinde first reaction was to narrow her eyes, thankfully the corners of her mouth curled upward as her gaze trailed toward Athena and Daiyu.

‘’So be it, both of us don’t need the attention for now but I –do- intend to fight the day after tomorrow’’

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With this introduction to Blood Magic over and done with I did my best to shove these information’s in the back of my mind. I’ve been here for quite a while now, leaving behind mother and the six Yukionnas; Tsukiyomi was ready to leave, obviously not fond of spending more time amidst demons than necessary with Zechariah sharing her mindset as he set to open the door before her politely, his own expressions close and distant, no doubt rummaging through some thoughts, Kyorn stayed behind on the bed in a classic thinking pose but still waved to his fluffed comrade whilst

The door to the adjacent room on our front was peering open with a blanket of darkness obfuscating the (no doubt) numerous observers, a smile crept on my lisps as I imaged the picture of a disgruntled Tsu facing them nonchalantly.

>I want to talk with Tsukiyomi privately; she’s already set on using blood magic but… [Place your mindset here, approve, disapprove, too hasty?]
>Go back to mother and the Yukionnas; maybe it’s time to start training them in earnest, get my mind off this mess.
>Try and find Hadraniel, Mylen, Leila, Bletsia or Sylphis… where the hell have they gone?
>Something else?

Alternatively.

>Switch to Athena and concentrate on the investigation of the hidden agent [Time will pass with Siegfried as well so we can’t do both main actors with another update, you have to decide where you attention ought to be placed, /tg/]
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>>34212971
>I want to talk with Tsukiyomi privately; she’s already set on using blood magic but… [Place your mindset here, approve, disapprove, too hasty?]
Too hasty, without getting the information we need. A lot of points were brought up in the last session, such as:
How will Tsu's artificial nature interact with the Blood Magic?
Who are we going to use as sacrifices?
How is the ritual going to affect her mind, and will there be side-effects?
What is the range of sensing of becoming Sensible? If it's short-range, shouldn't someone who can move quickly and people expect to meet many people, such as a Mantis, be better for this sort of sensor role?
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>>34212971
>Time will pass with Siegfried as well so we can’t do both main actors with another update
Are you fucking us over? This sounds very much like fucking us over.
Either we let Tsu take the blood ritual and whatever dangers that has without bringing it up, or we assuredly fail in finding the sleeper agent.
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>>34213349

No, I'm not fucking over anything, you'll have the opportunity of accomplishing both objectives with the actor of your choice but I won't make this easy, you'll be able to chance pov after this first day, but it entirely depend on how things goes for now, I just want you guys to commit.


>>34213295

So Itake it you'd like to take Sieglinde and Tsu aside for some more talking? Or just take the fluff in a quiet room to ask those questions??
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>>34212971
>>Switch to Athena and concentrate on the investigation of the hidden agent [Time will pass with Siegfried as well so we can’t do both main actors with another update, you have to decide where you attention ought to be placed, /tg/]
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>>34213468
>No, I'm not fucking over anything, you'll have the opportunity of accomplishing both objectives with the actor of your choice
It does sound like it when a conversation that should take 30 minutes to an hour locks us out of an entire day.
Taking Tsu aside and talking to her locks us into Siegfried, when his agenda is talking to Tsu then teaching the Yukionna with Mana.
That's what you're saying.
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We still need to have that talk with Daiyu and Tsu (and Ame and Mana since they'll invite themselves anyways) about out situation with the beast, amongst other things.
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>>34213468
>So Itake it you'd like to take Sieglinde and Tsu aside for some more talking?
Yes, because Sieglinde is the one who could answer these questions and Tsu the one who needs to hear the answers.
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>>34213613
That is true
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>>34213670
>>34213613
>>34213620
We could have handled this by simply not ending the meeting, or just shooing out Kyorn and Zechariah.
Athena can stay because her soul merge thing does concern her in this.
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>>34213587

>Taking Tsu aside and talking to her locks us into Siegfried, when his agenda is talking to Tsu then teaching the Yukionna with Mana.

Unless you want to join Athena, Daiyu and Sieglinde with the investigation then yes, this is Siegfried agenda and what has already been agreed upon in previous threads. Again, you haven't been robbed of finding the agent.

>>34213613

Thank for reminding, that momentarily slipped my mind, don't worry this discussion could happen as soon as today or tomorrow.

>>34213620

I think we only have a single vote for a pov switch to Athena, guess it's time to progress.
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>>34213732
So you don't see how locking us into a route where we talk about something important for an hour and then doing something which, while important, does not require important decisions, locking us out of taking actions over the course of several hours where each action is important, isn't fucking us over?

What was agreed upon was that Siegfried would bring up his concerns about the blood ritual and that we would take control of Athena's investigation.
Instead you broke up the meeting as soon as you could so that we would have to choose between two essential courses of action that can be handled without locking us out of the other.
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>>34213825
True, it is odd that Athena cannot conduct the investigation during our training of the yukionnas. Unless she is accompanying us during that time to unlock her focus mode.
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>>34213825

If its really that unjust I'll alter accordingly, for now let's just progress this day and see if we can dissuade Tsukiyomi.
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>>34214049

Actually Athena will do that investigation independently, the consequence of her actions will be seen by Siegfried side, so to speak. I intended to have her drop off her results afterward.
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>>34214082
Right, taking away our chance to get a lead on the sleeper agent for an entire day, for a conversation of an hour. What decisions with the Yukionna training can make up for that?
You've pretty much outright stated that without a lot of luck (and good choices) that Athena is going to fail. Are you going to now fill the Yukionna training with similar choices that will now affect whether they succeed or fail in unlocking their powers, when you had previously said that it was guaranteed so long as Siegfried and Mana both taught them?
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>>34214218
It's time for you to calm down.
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>>34214218
Dude, you're throwing a tantrum. Step away from your PC, take some deep breaths, maybe a cup of tea and then try to cope with the fact that doing everything is not always an option.
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>>34214218

Both sides can resolve a couple of peculiar problems and direct focus by the players may or may not solve them all in one swoop; the Yukionnas training will allow to know some more inner working of how a goddess operate and, as I've repeated, will not rob you of the chance of finding out the agent.

Here, as a compromise once Tsukiyomi scene is done, let's proceed to another vote to see how we spend the rest of the day, deal?
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>>34214348
This isn't about not being able to do everything, it's about being told last thread that we would be able to bring up important points that were posted for the "Any last questions?" prompt because INH didn't want to write up another update, and then getting this where we have to choose between two important items and accepting failure on the one we don't choose.
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>>34214394
>the Yukionnas training will allow to know some more inner working of how a goddess operate
Isn't that something we should find out anyway, as in-character information?
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>>34214394
>Here, as a compromise once Tsukiyomi scene is done, let's proceed to another vote to see how we spend the rest of the day, deal?
Alright, fine. But that's what you implied was going to happen at the end of last session anyway.
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>>34214409
And when Ame and Athena went south while we went north with Sylphis, Athena came back minus one arm. Shit Happens has been established by precedent and nothing is guaranteed.
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>>34214452

Yes, but you'll experience it firsthand. The reason why I need direct intervention with Siegfried is because it's actually going to be potentially perilous.

>>34214498

I'm not above making bad descision, or forgetting things. Anyway let's get this show on the road.
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>>34214532
Shit happening because we chose one perspective over another is fine, that's not what I'm arguing about.
What I'm arguing about, what I got salty about, is that we were told at the end of last thread that we'd be able to do one thing(talk to Tsu about our reservations concerning her becoming Sensible) while still being able to do the other (switch to Athena's perspective).
Being told we'd get to do something at no cost and then suddenly being told that there would be a cost is the problem.
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>>34214617

Yes I'm sorry, it slipped my mind.

Here have a box.
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>>34214673
Oh fluffy tails, bringers of joy and fluffiness. If only they existed in the real world.
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>>34214673
Oh fuck, that box looks comfy as hell.
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>>34214673
It's fine now, now that we get the originally offered choice again.
Better that you correct a mistake now, before it can get any bigger, than after we've already committed to something irrevocable.
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>>34214617
In the future you should just link to and/or copy-paste what he said about it before instead of slowing down the current thread.
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>>34214751
If only fluffy tails were available for mail order.
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‘’Eh?’’

Tsukiyomi stopped in her track as my hand caught her wrist, her small body looked light and fragile, wrapped into a clear colored kimono while the large, golden bushy tails blanketed her profiles. This Tenko was a strong, charismatic giant of a woman, but now I saw a momentary glimpse of vulnerability, brief, poisonous uncertainty filtered through her golden gaze, quickly caught and hidden back behind her mask.

A small voice came through the opposite door, spoken in a loud hush as if begging to be heard.

«He’s totally fucking her»

…Tsukiyomi response was an adorable ear twitch while snapping her head her attention toward this intrusion, the nearly closed door and total apparent obscurity of the door made it impossible to identify a culprit, thus the Queen-Mother changed her tune; apparent anger changing into smugness.

‘’He’s also been approved by my daughter, saw it firsthand.’’

‘’Ts-!‘’

Warmth spread on my cheek as I quickly tugged her arm, meanwhile Zechariah looked very out of place, scratching the back of his head incessantly as his eyes darted between Tsu and the door; his expression changed into amusement and actually gave me thumb up.

‘’’I'll go fetch Aurore and try to help out your people anyway I can, try not to have too much fun you two!’’

Cheeky man…

‘’Sieglinde!’’

Said woman had closed the distance with the seated group and was now slightly bending toward Kyorn who was busily forcing himself to look away, my words snapped the demoness out of her prior amusement as her large tail twitched at my call and she turned soundlessly in my direction, both shoulders occupied by the pair of strange, nail filled metallic dolls sitting quietly; the length, girth and sharpness of her reddish horn gave her mischievous smile a most ominous, dreadful tone.
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‘’Come with me, would you?’’

‘’Firsthand experience, right?’’

Cheeky woman.

Of course Tsu wasn’t bothered at all, no she was positively radiating proud happiness, very satisfied with sinking her claws where they belonged, forget the fox this woman can be a lion, too.

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Finding another room was only a matter of opening another one of the closed door of this hallway, aside from the ransacked bed there was more than enough chairs to accommodate us and soon enough we sat in front of Sieglinde, the previous atmosphere evaporating in earnest as the two woman glared silent thunder to each other as their mutual animosity flared up.

It’d be in everyone best interest to have a mediator each time they come into contact.

‘’Tsu-‘’

But the queen mother interrupted me.

‘’I’ve decided to use a Blood Magic ritual to grow ‘’sensible’’ as you put it, I trust there’s no problem, right?’’

Sieglinde seemed honestly surprised by this fact as her eyes opened in earnest, even letting out a slight and I found my reproach dying in my throat as she quickly grew reserved, running a hand in her curly red hair while her tail squeezed itself out of the chair.

‘’As long as you provide adequate material…’’

‘’I have what you need’’

It was curt answer, the queen-mother expression grew sullen for obvious reason; simply another notch on the table, another sin to shoulder, I can just picture that reason motivating her action.

‘’You haven’t talked about any potential side effects’’

‘’Because there’s none to my knowledge; I know Blood Magic has been used for good in the past, yes but everyone I knew of that grew Sensible used their talents to hunt materials, I can’t say if it’ll shackle you with dangerous temptations, dealing with Blood Magic is a danger in of itself anyway but I know there’s no such thing as immediate turnabout of psyche unless you lost yourself to an Outsider.’’
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Obviously, the Lilim didn’t know about Tsukiyomi-no-Mikoto hidden status as a Tenko and artificial Demon Lord; a being so full of corruption she can’t keep it contained when casting spell; Corruption and Blood Magic don’t seem to interact much with one another, but who’s to say something akin to magitek cannot arise…?

Aaah, doubts.

‘’I can resist temptation; if that’s the only drawback you have nothing at all to worry, are you satisfied Siegfried?’’

‘’Ah, so that’s how it is’’

Between the two, Sieglinde was the first to smile as both pairs of brilliant eyes settled on me. Tsukiyomi already made her decision, what should I say…?
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>>34215632
"Wait a minute, Tsu. You haven't told Sieglinde about your...condition. I know you don't like to talk about it, but who knows what could happen. Angels don't like Blood Magic as much as the Golden Guardian; wouldn't you have put in a failsafe if you were the one behind the design? In fact, I KNOW there were failsafes with Emeth.
"Second, are you going with the virgins, or the ten? I assume you'll be looking through death row, but I just want to be sure. In this case I think that we should go for those that already can't be saved.
"Finally, Sieglinde, how far does Sensibile work? Wouldn't someone, like a house servant, be more suited to getting near everyone than one of the leaders of the Commonwealth?"

We only got one answer for the five questions from >>34213295
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>>34215809

Hmm, I'l ltake this as consensus unless something else arise.
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>>34215809
Holy shit you're right! If angels do indeed hate blood magic to the degree that Sieglinde said they do, and are the ones behind her creation, they would likely put in such a failsafe in the event their little pet went rogue to that degree. They wanted her to become The Demon Lord, with that kind of pull one could easily attain prime sacrifices with the armies they would command. Thus, that would be to them the worst possible end to their schemes, a total and complete backfire.

I knew there was a reason I was feeling so worried about Tsu doing it, that's it.
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>>34215989
Seems to cover everything.
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>>34215809
>>34215989
>>34216076
Will the blood magic affect any future child bearing, if the hero curse were to be lifted?
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>>34216117

Oi, that question is off limit. Bad, bad!
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>>34216159
It's a perfectly valid question!
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>>34216159
I think it is relevant to ours and Tiny Fluff's interests!
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>>34216117
You're making the highly optimistic assumption that our intrepid heroes will survive long enough for that to be a concern.
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>>34216232
No reason not to lay the groundwork for the future, whether or not we survive.
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>>34216159
I see no reason not to ask her. Like, right now.
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>>34216517
Siggy's biological clock has started ticking hard, knowing that he will die within half a month.

Tsu doesn't even know what she's gotten in to.
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‘’Tsu I know you don’t like to talk about your…condition’’

The moment this word left my mouth she shot me a murderous glare while every single ones of her tails flared, fur puffing and fuzzing as she leaned forward on her chair, shaking her head sideway once as her ears twitched; it was beyond disapproval, the woman was radiating pure intimidation and the rest of my words died in my throat momentarily.

Screw it.

‘’Angels and the Golden Guardian seems to share a similar opinion of blood magic; do you believe they wouldn’t have put some kind of failsafe against blood magic? There’s already a few inside Emeth as I’ve experience some-‘’

‘’Siggy?’’

At the mention of her name the golem talked, standing vigil before the door, making Sieglinde jump in surprise at her sudden presence, everyone here seemed to have completely forgotten about the golem (again).

‘’Ahem, anyway can you truly take this-‘’

‘’Yes’’

Her hands were gripping tightly on the handles of the chair as her golden eyes hid themselves behind her eyelids; thusly she seem to grow sullen, putting water on the fire of her anger, stopping the movement of her swishing tails, hiding every emotions behind her expert mask.

‘’Emeth body is vastly different from you and me; she has grown on her own to become a person, but that doesn’t change the fact she’s bound by her own…biology’’

Obviously she hesitated on the word, but I appreciated the fact she considered the girl alive.

‘’I’ve come to understand my own condition with time, Siegfried. Radiance emancipated me from the angels at the dawn of the Great Crusade; if they had any effective failsafe remaining they’d have triggered after I refused to sit on the Demonic Throne, I’ve also had my share of contact with horrors of Blood during that time, I know I don’t have anything to fear.’’
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‘’Hmm… two hundred years, I doubt there’s anything latent that’d have stayed dormant for so long; Sanguine is the power of life itself, and death is the natural end of everything.’’
Sieglinde seemed to be agreeing with the queen-mother who shot her a sideway glance, the demoness momentarily lost in thought, she started murmuring to herself softly and I decided to move on; Tsukiyomi is a stubborn girl after all.

‘’As for the materials…’’

This time she smiled, shattering her previous persona as cruel, satisfied joy spread on her face, showing brief rows of pointed teeth as she slowly caught herself back into dignity; for a moment I wondered if a demon had suddenly possessed her.

‘’I have one man I –want- in the ritual, the other nine will do from various criminals; we’ll keep this entire thing in the dark and no, I won’t use church prisoners, they are to be treated humanely’’

‘’Not in the mansion I hope? This place is too packed.’’

‘’My personal fortress will do, it’s occupied by a militia now, along with a pair of researchers; the coast is clear on that front’’

So she already had the place figured out along with the people to be sacrificed without so much as a second thought, part of me believed it was simply an act for I’ve seen the bitter remorse and regrets her actions with the Onis bring on her face…

I hope I’m right.
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‘’I see… Sieglinde, what’s the range of this Sensibility?’’

At her name the redhead demoness perked up, clutching both dolls on her belly as they wiggled constantly, trying to flee her grasp.

‘’It work with eyesight and touch; there’s no range to speak off, but you have to look at them and then you’ll ‘’know’’. That’s how it’s been explained to me for I’ve never experienced it for myself, but these words resonated with all the books and journals I’ve gathered.’’

With a flick of her tail Tsukiyomi forced the discussion on her, announcing a loud ‘’Satisfied, Siegfried?’’. Peering at me with half-closed, burnt golden eyes empty of vitality. I felt like bringing one last thing; eventual pregnancy but I can just picture Tsukiyomi following retort.

«I’m sterile, so it doesn’t matter anyway»

Which is only a half-truth at best, but it also might be the only chink in the armor, even if it’s nothing more than a gross appeal to emotions.

>What should be done?
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>>34217514
Ask about >>34216117
Mention we have faith in Daiyu being reasonable considering how the times have changed and recent events.
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>>34217514
Ask if it will affect her ability to bear children.
We're going to be defeating Fate anyway, why not one more?
And I'd rather that everything be considered first.
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>>34217714
>>34217642

You guys know she isn't going to like this right?
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>>34217875
This situation and her are important to Siggy. Maybe she has forgotten that over the loops and needs to be reminded.
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>>34217875
I'm against it. I think that it's necessary for Tsu to undergo the ritual, and now that the issue of side-effects and fail-safes has been taken care of, I think we should proceed.
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>>34217875
I'm from >>34217714
I know that she's not going to like this. And audience be damned, take Tsu's hand in Siegfried's, and tell her that even if she is adamant about doing this, that he wants there to be full disclosure about any and all things that could affect Tsu from this. He'll support her decision, he just needs to know now.
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>>34217961
>>34218043
Guys, are you sure?
Even Siegfried in-character thinks this is a bad idea. We should probably back off on this.
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‘’No, I have one last thing in mind’’

Hesitation forced my silence as the two woman now peered at me curiously, Kitsune and demon momentarily side by side, facing me with varying degrees of emotions that convinced me to look toward Emeth whose watchful gaze and ever effective guardianship instilled some much needed courage in my guts, especially when she turned her head and waved, her ring finger adorned with a golden circle, as if she was married.

‘’Can this ritual affect future pregnancy?’’

Sieglinde immediately started chuckling while Tsu froze, clenching her jaw in surprise with soon grew hot, her brows furrowed in displeasure and her lisps opened to show the ominous pointed fangs as pure, simple, raw anger overcame her entire being for just a moment; it changed to resignation so fast I felt my heart squeeze in immediate reproach, dread be damned, it felt like I had just slapped her in the face.

‘’As long as one stay far, far away from any ritual during pregnancy there shouldn’t be any mutations – yes, shouldn’t-‘’

The Lilim grew serious now, her brilliant red eyes peering over Tsu momentarily as her tail twitches as she finally released the dolls, and they quickly scampered off toward Emeth.

‘’Growing Sensible inevitably change the body, the ritual stimulate your biology in the presence of Blood Magic, there’s more than a few instance of ritualist warping the infant of a soon-to-be mother for their purpose, but I haven’t stumbled into any catalogued example of delivery for Sensible women, at least anything I can trust. As long as you aren’t pregnant during our ritual, I’d say you have nothing to worry about’’
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‘’I’ll finish with the materials for this evening’’

Tsukiyomi shook her head and chased her gloom, then stood up slowly, tails flanking and rubbing themselves on her body as she didn’t cast a glance my way, Sieglinde grimaced toward me now while giving me a thumb up, obviously I’ve just stepped deep into something I shouldn’t.

Part of me felt like mentioning Daiyu; the Demon Lord should be able to break the Heroic curse but for now, Tsukiyomi was already walking away in silence, leaving me and the Lilim without goodbye.

‘’Well.. I guess I’ll wait until the prep is done, I’ll need some white chalk and salt, too.’’

Aah, I know it was a bad idea…

>But now, what should I do?
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>>34219068
Catch Tsu before she leaves completely.
She's in a bad mood, but we need to tell her and Daiyu about the Beast.
Wasn't Mana here as well?
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>>34219068
I still don't think it was a bad idea, it let her know what Siggy is thinking about.

>>34219128
This, maybe. I think Tsu said she'd set aside time for that meeting we asked for with her and daiyu but I'm not sure if she did say that or if it's something we should just do now while everyone is present.
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>>34219128

Mana is being cozy with the ice ladies. As for Daiyu she's obviously occupied with Athena and Kyorn for the upcoming investigation, now is about the time to decide o nwaht to do; you can of course, force the discussion with the Beast and Tsu or do so later and focus on something else.
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>>34219202
She has her own business she wanted to do here before our meeting about the beast, but maybe we can catch her before she slips away to ask her to give us a chance to explain ourselves, later. Then I suppose onto our own business for the day, such as it is.
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>>34219165
>>34219128

So I assume you guys want to proceed with the Beast revelation with Tsukiyomi and Daiyu?

This'll take a good chunk of time, probably spill into tomorrow update as well. Are you guys sure?
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>>34219202
>Mana is being cozy with the ice ladies
She was there in the room when the door was closed.
>My eyes strayed momentarily toward the open room barely peeking through the blond fur of Tsukiyomi tails and I sped the colored hair of my jovial mother in law whose wide, amused grin was almost enough to make me smile
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>>34219341
Yeah we need to tell them
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>>34219341
I'm >>34219165
I don't really want to force tsu into the meeting now if she wanted to do it later. Just so long as it happens. Maybe >>34219323 and ask her if, now with having to train the icebutts, if there will still be time to have the meeting later or if we need to do it now?
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>>34219341
Yes, I don't see how a 20 minute talk is supposed to somehow lock Daiyu out of working with Athena and Kyorn for the investigation, or Mana from training the Yukionna.
There isn't some plane or train to catch; they're all going to be in the same compound and they can catch up with each group.
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>>34219341
Did Tsu set aside a time today for talking about the Beast?
I remember Siegfried telling her that there was something he needed to talk to her and Daiyu about, and that she would set aside a time.
Has that time been set aside? If it hasn't, then we need to do it now.
If it has, then it can wait until then.
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>>34219361

That was Mana standing behind Tsu before the door closed, she hasn't left the room with the ice ladies. Sorry if that was confusing.

>>34219387
>>34219408

Well I wasn't expecting this peculiar issue to be resolved right now, but tackling different problems in various orders isn't something I can predict.

On to the discussion it'll be.

>>34219449

She can make time now or later; the evening of the ritual wil lbe the only point of no return.
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>>34219489
Well, unless Tsu protests I guess no reason not to have the meeting. Maybe it will help her understand why Siggy would be thinking about things like that.
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>>34219489
>On to the discussion it'll be.
Is this with Tsu and Daiyu, or Tsu, Daiyu, and Mana?
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>>34219489
Question, is it truly necessary or vital for Tsu to be made the sensible one? There is a chance she's pregnant after getting it on with Siggy and I'd hate for tiny fluff to suffer.

Besides, shouldn't it be Sieglinde who undergoes it? As the one most experienced with blood magic would it not make more sense for her to have that ability? If not her, what about Siggy himself? Though I am loath to trust or even listen to it the beast did mention something about us learning some blood magic might be a good idea.
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>>34219720
I think the assumption was that Ame and Mana would end up including themselves anyways because wife/queen/goddess and mother/Real Goddess
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>>34219720

We can add Mana without problem.

>>34219745

Tsu want to grow Sensible out of duty, really. She's doing it to find the agent/traitor, it's her job as queen-mother to do it, she sure as hell doesn'T want anybody else to do it.

For Sieglinde, the reason is entirely personal but think about it; she's one of the foremost expect on Blood Magic, probably the most knowledgeable demon in that field and hasn't done any permanent rituals on her person yet despite living a long life.
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>>34219844
Damnit why does she think everything is her responsibility! Always going through life doing the most practical and/or logical thing. Taking the entire burden upon herself whenever possible and hating herself when it isn't...

I've seen that story, it doesn't have a happy ending, or beginning or middle. Just a long train of tragedies. She needs to be happy.
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>>34219997
Are you going to be useful or uselessly make impotent noises?
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>>34219997
Happy with a Tiny Fluff.
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>>34220030

I'm sure nothing bad will happen to her
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>>34219997
It just shows that Siegfried has failed in helping to ease the burdens of these people since they still try to shoulder everything on their own.
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>>34219844
The merits of having a Mantis, who is expected to sneak through the entire building and among the retinues of the leaders, wasn't brought up at all, even though it was asked for twice.
What about that?
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>>34220095
Perhaps, if true that must be rectified. If he is indeed worthy of such a large number of wives then he must show it, by easing all of their burdens however he can.
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>>34220126

Wait what? What do you mean?

>>34220095

There's a difference between easing burdens and taking on everything yourself, it's hard to say ''leave it to me'' when nearly every girls are proactive with their issues.
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>>34220274
>Wait what? What do you mean?
You...missed that?
>>34213295
>shouldn't someone who can move quickly and people expect to meet many people, such as a Mantis, be better for this sort of sensor role?
>>34215809
>Wouldn't someone, like a house servant, be more suited to getting near everyone than one of the leaders of the Commonwealth?

Seeing as you need either to touch someone or have direct line-of-sight, a servant or someone who is expected to look at many people/pat them down for weapons as part of a security checkpoint/sweep, sounds better than the leader who is expected to stay safe behind a security cordon, when we suspect that very same security of being compromised.
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>>34220337

Look like I did miss it.

There's a bit of a flaw in this solution; how will you convince someone else to take part of the ritual? Tsukiyomi, Sieglinde and Siegfried can be trusted to keep quiet but it's not exactly everyone that'll take the mention of Blood magic and ten homicides to power said ritual easily.

Add to that Tsu long life and new ability to pick out blood mnage and you have another efficient way to deal with trouble maker.
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>>34220420
Of course there are still advantages to Tsu being the target. But alternatives still need to be voiced.
Tsu was able to get a number of Oni volunteers for her Super-Soldier Serum/Potion of Induced Vampirism, and taking part in a dangerous experiment with experimental weapons and killing people with them is what Intelligence Agencies DO.
It would be a matter of finding a Mantis that is sufficiently loyal and agrees to undergo the procedure for the good of the Commonwealth and the Rahal, and who is then Charmed to protect from being suborned later.

We lose the advantage of keeping this ability around for a long time, in return for the immediate advantage of being able to check through many people without arousing the sleeper agent's suspicion.

It's an alternative that, as a leader, Tsu should consider. She might decide against it, but it has its merits.
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>>34220420
I thought last thread you said five normal people or two virgins would suffice. Still bad, that's people's lives we're talking, but things are quite desperate. We must keep that damned evil mountain sealed, the costs are next to irrelevant.
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>>34220612
>I thought last thread you said five normal people or two virgins
No, it was 2 virgins or 10 normal people.
And we're already taking them from criminals sentenced to death; we're only making their deaths serve the state instead using it to remove people who are a danger to it.
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>>34220612

I think the right count might be five as well, ten is a little too steep. I'll reread last thread when I have the time.

>>34220571

Of course I'm not saying it's not a good idea, problem is tough BLood MAgic is a big taboo that WILL get you in trouble even more than Corruption; Tsukiyomi already faced a big loss of face due to that onis fiasco, if word of this ritual get out, she might lose her position in court entirely.

She also doesn't trust the mantis who could very well blackmail her after the war.
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>>34220612
>>34220678
>>34220695
Nope, just checked.
It's two virgins or five regular people.
>‘’The ritual to become sensible require two virgins or five normal people; slaughter them, take their blood onto you and you’ll gain that power’’
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What about Athena for the ritual if Tsu is a no go?
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>>34220695
Pretty much anyone on our crew save perhaps Leila and Hadraniel would keep quiet to the grave. Our bros are an unknown factor however. They may stay silent, or they may resent the practice of this craft enough to try and prevent anyone from doing it.
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>>34221011

And Tsukiyomi value her retinue too much to put them through this thing.
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‘’Eh?’’

For the second time now I caught her wrist, once more a mirage of vulnerability washed over the Tenko as her tired gaze met mine, her tails standing behind her straight and true, lacking the vitality to swish and fro; tragic and endearing, I found my voice catching itself in a new lump in throat. This Tenko was tired again and was doing a marvellous job of hiding it, her hand balled in a fist and she nodded curtly but I interrupted her sentence, finally rousing the courage to speak up.

‘’Neither you, Daiyu or Mana have engaged in your business, I asked for some time yesterday; I want to start on it now, it’s… vital, at least for me’’

For a moment a shadow of incomprehension clouded her face before her features tightened, I felt nervous to my core, enough to feel slight trembling in my body as the Beast stirred, always awakened and interest by any and all manners of its mentions.

‘’You ask for a very powerful audience, Siegfried. This room would do, right?’’

Turning toward Sieglinde, the grumpy Lilim let out a sigh and obediently stepped away, clutching her dolls and forcing Emeth out of the room «I want you to fetch a pair of people, you can do that right?» Emeth seemed to only put up a token resistance « Mission?» she asked before disappeared out of view, back into the other room housing Athena, Kyorn and Daiyu.

‘’Care to give me some privileged information so I can forgive you, mister Shieffer?’’

I felt her tail swathe my back gently, another one rolling itself around my wrist to pull me away from the door; the Beast was fully awaken now and it’s warning echoed in my being, a single harsh

>Don’t

Jolted throughout my body like electricity, my painful twitch was enough to completely shatter Tsukiyomi apparent good mood.

‘’Siggy…? You’re red and sweating, are you sick?’’

That bastard is going to resist.

>[The end for tonight]
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Sorry for ending early, I just wanted to plan out this little moment tonight a bit before engaging properly.
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Why was Tsu pissed at us?
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>>34221456

Emotional backlash from talking about pregnancy, it's not quite logical really and she know it herself, she isn't holding a grudge.

Unlike your previous betrayal
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>>34221513
Right we became demon king with Daiyu or our fake betrayal due to Mana
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>>34221534

Fake betrayal due to Mana, the girls sort of understand why you did it and Siegfried spirit isn't put into question, but they still want some payback for the emotional pain they suffered.

Nothing dramatic or really serious on that front.
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>>34221280
Oh fucking hell. I know what this bastard's trying to accomplish, he's wanting to maintain the element of surprise. He can't really play body snatcher due to the links but he could choose the "perfect" time to take over and eliminate what he considers a threat.

Without knowing about its sentience, it would be able to get an absolute drop on the target. You can kill just about anything if you manage that, if they never see or even suspect it coming all it really takes is one swift swing or spell and boom. Target down, with very little to no risk to the self. Devious little shit this beast is, hope we ruin this little iron he's got cooking in the fire.

>>34221612
Man some people just don't know how to take a devious plot that is ultimately for their express benefit.
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>>34221612
So I guess Siggy will not be getting any lewds then due to this
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>>34220095
It's kind of hard to help them when these stubborn scourges on a man's sanity will go out of their way to turn away any help offered while simultaneously heaping on more tasks and responsibilities onthemselves.
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>>34221746

Depend on the lewd

>>34221720

The Beast has grown powerful and fully sentient now, we'll see how an argument like this will play out tomorrow.
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>>34221832
What lewds can we get. At this point I don't mind
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>>34221906

[spoile]Servant[/spoiler]
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>>34221929
Servant?

.....

Why did Siggy's bodyguard first come to mind.
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>>34221979

We'll see won't we?

I hope Sylphis is still liked aorund these parts because I'm investing major efforts in that side story. People are too busy to care about her, how sad.
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>>34222024
Who is Sylphis?
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>>34222024
Is it lewd? I like Matis girl regardless and a side story sounds fun but I can't help but ask
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>>34222024
You have only yourself to blame for the size of the cast.
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>>34222129

No, it full on story time explaining variosu thing, a power boost and newly blossoming friendship. I'm taking my time with this one but still try to keep it short.

>>34222152

I aint complaining, it's fun having a big cast!
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>>34222172
>try to keep it short.
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>>34222172
Not so fun when we have to ignore parts of said cast because we can't fit in time to interact with them.
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>>34221746
No lewds as a direct result of that no, but there can always be other ways through which lewd may be obtained. Siggy has a good deal of charisma and a silver tongue going for him. Such men seldom leave the bars and nightclubs empty handed, and their wives (if they ever take one, or a few) find it difficult not to attend to his desires.

>>34221979
She's devoted to him to an almost unhealthy degree. Like, Maiya Hisau kind of devoted (not quite *that* devoted, but close enough for comparison). Most anything he wants done, she'll do without hesitation or question. I'm sure she'd even try to kill the other girls if Siggy were to order it.

After she checked for signs of charm magic or other such dirty tricks of course. Such an order would be a grievous break from his established character and would trigger suspicion even in her at this point. Plus she ain't dumb, she knows to watch out for that crap.

Essentially, within limits, we say jump, she says how high. We say "Let's have sex" and she's already locking the door.

>>34222024
Good. I quite like our emotional poker faced mantis. And we still have a set of wings that has gone untouched. Blasphemy! Next time we see Sylphis, if we can, those wings, us stroking them, happening.
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>>34222239

Mylen is devoted enough to punch you in the face when/if you become a jackass, she know Siegfried enough to see when he's genuinely happy.
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>>34222282
Different Anon but true but those Mylen lewds why do they allude us.

Especially I kind of want to see it since Siggy will never remember that scene again.

Also the aftermath
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>>34222327

Siegfried sacrificed the moment he lost hisvirginity to the woman he loved, that memory is now forever erased. Gone. Never to return.

All in order to save Athena life...
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>>34222363
Worth it.
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>>34222282
Well good, the best servants are those that can speak their mind without hesitation or fear. Surrounding yourself with yes men is a folly. And besides, I assume she just wants Siggy to be happy. Happy and hers alone preferably, but happy is the more important goal.

And Siggy has never been happy being an asshole. When forced to be, he starts to crack and break. Look at what happened with the purge and the torturing of her. Being an asshole is harmful to his sanity it is! Payback, it seems though, is a great boon for him. Thus, any good servant would ensure he never acts mean unless he's getting some vengeance. Gotta work out that anger!

>>34222363
And his own, don't forget that one. That nightmare was out for blood because it knew how much Siggy's death would hurt Hadraniel. Her first love ripped from her because of her curse. Maybe that would finally convince her that suicide is best for everyone. That was its goal right? Get her to kill herself?
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>>34222499

Not quite suicide, just grief in general, really. It sort of thrived by hurting her, warping the anger and resentement of her twin brother murder to essentialyl bear an unending, illogical, childish grudge. A pure horror created by a madman, the thing hounded her until she secluded herself in that sword.
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>>34222363
So we will never see that moment ourselves?
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>>34222614

You'll have to ask Mylen about it.
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>>34222683
I take that as a no then since it will take something pretty bad for us to do so
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>>34222700

All depend on how much you believe in Mylen
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>>34222549
Still a good way to attain that end, as that's usually why it happens. So much grief and suffering that the person simply cannot cope anymore, so they take their own life just to make the pain stop.

Selfish, foolish, and stupid. Still, I understand the why of it all. I just vehemently disapprove of it.

>>34222683
I don't think Siggy even knows what he has forgotten or even that forgetting has even really occurred. Merely that he sacrificed something precious to him, two things really. This is something he needs to uncover in character ASAP so he can inform the girls of the cost of immense power.

Y'know, so they can prepare themselves for the inevitable "Who are you?" and take it properly. He forgot them to save them, man that's bittersweet.

>>34222750
Hasn't lied to us yet, won't lie to us now. Problem may be even getting her to speak on it. As she said, she hates to talk about herself.
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>>34222750
so no pastebin description then like with the hot springs?
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>>34222833

If you get her to open up, you might get a reward...

>>34222830
>Selfish, foolish, and stupid. Still, I understand the why of it all. I just vehemently disapprove of it.

Given Hadraniel previous mindset as the Embodiment of Love, she would never take her own life under any circumstance. That's why the encounter had to be resolved this way, they simply couldn't kill the other on their own.

Siggy knows the price of his SOul Blast but it's true he doesn't know what he lost, only that it's tied to Mylen and Mana.
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>>34222894
Dammit, so it won't be easy will it, can you at least present an opportunity:

Actually having the lewd scene fro Mylen's pov might be interested just because we knew Siggy kind of was, but what about her did it bring bad memories, did she fake it, or she left warmth and a connection?
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>>34223050

I might have a little trouble doing a female pov for a sex scene but we'll see how inspired I could be for such a thing.
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>>34222894
>she would never take her own life under any circumstance
You underestimate our ability to make horrible decisions and bring about worst case scenarios.
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>>34223142

I stand by my statement
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>>34223088
Oh okay, It came as a after thought but the more I think about it the more interesting the idea is.

Mylen who does not do well with social interaction physically or emotionally due to the beings in the forest and her father (I forgot) raped her (Possibly repeatedly) tries to initiate something with a emotionally wrecked Siggy.

She either trying to lead him or teaching him how to take the lead as other then being forced on before go through awkward fumbling as through her could either drags back to what happened to her before, focusing on why she's doing it not out of love but to stay by Mana's side more or less, or does she feel something for the boy trying to please her?

Maybe all though. I just find Mylen interesting in this scenario.
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>>34223142
Oh that only happened a couple of times. In most cases we get the second or third worst outcome.

>>34223219
Indeed. It is a fascinating spot to be in given her characterization and past. I do wonder when she actually started to feel for the guy instead of coldly manipulating him for her own benefit.
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>>34223219

Stop giving me more things to write!
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>>34223193
That image reminds me, corrupted Hardaniel when? In fact, when will the heroes case their futile struggling and turn their efforts toward helping to bring about a world where humans and monsters can peacefully coexist in eternal carnal bliss?
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>>34223343
But this is a interesting scene that I kind of want to see not though Siggy POV since we always go through Siggy's POV but Mylen who besides her devotion to him and the diary this is a rare peek into her mind on something that will be an important memory for her.

Even for me the lewd is (almost by a small margin) secondary to see how she reacts to her first time trying to connect with someone physically and emotionally and maybe just to see Siggy try and fail to try to make her feel good.
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>>34223343
Technically, it is the job of the players to give things for the GM to write. The players dictate the actions of their PCs and the GM must determine (i.e. "write") the consequences. This is our function really, so it shouldn't surprise you that we're always trying to get you to write more stuff.

>>34223427
Such a world is good for a fantasy or two, but I for one prefer a world of Jolly Cooperation with everyone. This whole mess we're trying to sort out is because people are too stubborn and blinded by ideals and ambitions to see the beauty and wonder of such a place. If they could, they'd recant their genocidal or sexually excessive ways and join us in our dream.

I pity them, but such is life. If we have our way, they won't be alive to be pitied anymore very soon.
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>>34223427

Heroes cannot be corrupted, at least hose of the Great Crusade. Doubly so for Hadraniel, who is the Embodiment of Love and accepted her (one sided) crush for Siggy.

>>34223441

I see the merit of your words, it'll be your duty to remind me anon, even if other find you annoying. I am, alass, a forgetful person. But you are tempting me.
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>>34223617
I'll try but I think I brought this up before if not that Mantis lewds.
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>>34223617
>Heroes cannot be corrupted
Now that's just no fun.
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>>34223617
I'm pretty sure Siegfried likes Hadraniel just as much as he loves the other girls
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>>34223617
Wait, how is it one sided?
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>>34223617
It most certainly isn't one sided. Siggy likes her back, it's just that he likes a lot of other girls back as well. It may not be monogamous, but he does return her feelings. Thing is, she finally decided to act on them instead of playing at being some concept of a selfless hero.

As for the heroes being uncorruptable, there must be some mechanism preventing it. Kyorn has to painfully purge it out using the tattoos on his body, how did the other non-angels avoid it or otherwise cure themselves?
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>>34223726

I'm teasing

>>34223649

These heroes are worthy of the name.

>>34223766

All the heroes beside Kyorn were actually immune to Corruption due to Mana shenanigan mostly. The Great Crusade mark the point where Mother Earth really started to be active, save for the continuous slaugther of blood mages, that's been a stable throughout history.
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One bump to keep the thread alive for this evening
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One last bump
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>>34226043
Just one bump isn't going to be enough.
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Mylen forever a best.
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Another bump.
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Early bump.
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bump
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Thread should start around the same time as earlier, thank for keeping it alive gents.
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>>34227262
Not having even a single fluffy tail disqualifies her from being best.
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>>34236298
Dakini will always do dangerous things to my dick, especially in outfits like that. But you can't knock our succubutt bodyguard too hard, she does have those delicious wings.
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>>34236298

This fluff is extremely dangerous.
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Like a fish in the water the creature agile presence was felt throughout a concentrated area of my chest a little past my heart, cold sweats and slight pain erupted throughout my body as a result as the creature simply toyed around, its mere acts of movements enough to break any kind of walls, my discomfort obviously appeared on my face and Tsukiyomi stepped forward, placing her hands on my shoulders.

‘’Siegfried? What’s going on?’’

Try as she might she couldn’t quite deduce my dilemma; trying to grasp and attack the Beast like I did in the past yielded nothing more than frustration, its presence seemingly escaping my power like squeezing a slime with your hands, thankfully it’s presence wasn’t debilitating, simply highly uncomfortable and I managed to calm down somewhat, calming down the eruption of cold sweats to give Tsukiyomi a half-smug smile that she didn’t buy a single bit.

>’I’ll make this simple’’

Its multiple voices combining men and women tones whispered through my ears as if it was standing behind my shoulders.

>’’Keep quiet and you’ll go on your merry way to do whatever it is you think is important’’

Adding action to word I felt the creature presence lessen in my chest, it’s squeezing disappearing, granting temporary reprieve as I couldn’t hold back a satisfied sigh, Tsukiyomi had already forced me to sit down and was now keeping quiet, having realized her words were yielding nothing, now her inquisitive eyes were scanning me all over.
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>’’Talk about me and we’ll have a problem; I’ll fight to keep you quiet and we’ll end up killing each other’s if that’s what it take’’

The pain came back again, a squeeze of my thoracic bones, playing with my nerves to send a fire of pain throughout my body, I couldn’t resist twitching my shoulders whilst anger was building up, cold raw, dangerous rage, one of the few emotions capable of throwing caution and logic to the winds.

>’’How’s it going to be played, punk? Think you’ve got time to waste with me today?’’

As much as I hate to admit, that bastard isn’t wrong; it’s only baiting with actions now, if I were to fully concentrate on him I could easily reach him and no doubt I’ll be met with just as much resolve.

‘’Siggy, are you sick?’’

Tsukiyomi voice was nearly trampled when our closed door peered open, Daiyu and Mana revealing themselves and stepping inside cautiously, their gaze now serious as they saw me despite my best effort to avoid showing these’’’ symptoms’’.

>I’m not going to let it trample all over me [This will cause a fight]
>Back down, I can’t waste time with this childish bickering.
>Something else?
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>>34237322
>I’m not going to let it trample all over me [This will cause a fight]
Guy has given us no reason to even want to ever cooperate with him.
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>>34237322
>>I’m not going to let it trample all over me [This will cause a fight]
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>>34236597
Man I wish this Manga got more than 4 volumes. I was really enjoying the art.
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>>34237322
What kind of fight are we talking here? Will we pass out and end up in the soul world again, or will it be more of a clash of wills?

And wasn't he supposed to be weakened a bit after our fight with him inside Athena? He did make a major sacrifice and we didn't let him chow down on the nightmare, meaning he should have lost some strength. In theory anyway.

I suppose we should ask him why the hell it matters if the others know about his sentience or not no matter what we do. Don't expect him to be forthcoming but it's worth a shot.

>>34237527
Thing is we can either fight him now, or later on today after we've trained the yukionnas. It's a matter of timing really. Fight now and maybe lose the chance to train the ice girls, or train them and fight later. Hard choice.
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>>34237322
>I’m not going to let it trample all over me

Yeah, not gonna establish a bad precedence with yielding to it's threats.
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>>34237616
Here's hoping Sigama gets another serialization eventually. Or at least cuts back on the Kantai Collection stuff and draws more delicious psychotic fox girls.
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>>34237630

It'll be a clash of wills at first but will quickly erupt into the soul world if neither of you back down.

>And wasn't he supposed to be weakened a bit after our fight with him inside Athena? He did make a major sacrifice and we didn't let him chow down on the nightmare, meaning he should have lost some strength. In theory anyway.

He did, but he also recovered throughout the night.

>>34237616

It's already over? Man what a damn shame.

Anyway, seem like the consensus is to fight our old buddy.

Teehee
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>>34237322
>I’m not going to let it trample all over me [This will cause a fight]
We do not negotiate with terrorists.
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>>34237322
>Back down, I can’t waste time with this childish bickering.
It knows that we will talk about it after training the Yukionna today, but it won't interrupt us and let the Yukionna to be weakened; it needs them strong as well, since it will be destroyed by angels if Zipang loses.
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>>34237730
>It's already over?
Yeah, with volume 4, which leave 6 chapters to be translated.
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>>34237730
So he can just heal up from big sacrifices over the course of a single night without having to eat anything? That's no fair...

So I take it the first part will be a kind of extremely tense negotiations as both try to get the other to see "their" version of reason. Again I must ask, what's his problem with us informing them of his sentience?
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>>34237911

Actually he sacrificed part of his memory as well, so his own losses weren't that different from Siegfried, he didn't quite ''recover'' what he lost but it wasn't quite the same as our protagonist.
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>>34237527
changing vote to back down.
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I think the count is 3/2 in favor of a fight.

I'll start writing.
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I’m not scared by some pathetic blu-

Another jolt, this time much more pronounced, enough to send me in a coughing fit; part of my lower trachea felt like it had been squeezed, sending an explosive pain throughout my throat robbing me of any kind of locutions, naturally my body bent over naturally at this unprovoked attack but my will was sharp, the pain was fuel for anger and I struck at the revealed enemy. Since defenses and evasions had shifted in focus I managed to tear through its flesh, the body of the body was as of yet undefined but its yelp of pain brought unending satisfaction – I could feel the smile on my face as the presences of the trio of women simply disappeared from my mind, yet when the Beast retreated it lashed out again and I met it in kind; both of our will clashed and we tore one another apart, it struck a painful nerve which sent waves after wave of pain throughout my chest, spreading to the back of my head; I felt a rise of nausea and tried my best to avoid coughing, else a bout of vomiting follow.

‘’Siggy!
--othing, calm down.
----symptoms before…’’

Three voices echoed faraway and just now, I realize, that my grasp on the world was slipping, to meet the Beast will was to be dragged down in the only battlefield we could meet and I found myself hesitating as my foe lurked, ready to pounce at the expanse of its own body, unafraid of wounds only so it could cause the same to me; a newfound kamikaze offensive that… how can I counter that…?

>I still have the chance to back down. Granting it a victory may leave a bad aftertaste but I can’t let my pride get in the way.[Avoid the fight]
>No, I’ve never backed down before, I won’t start now.[Into the rabbit hole ye go, /tg/]
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This is obviously a taste of what's to come if you pursue, what will it be /tg/?
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>>34238490
Siggies are made for fighting and winning.
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>>34238490
>I still have the chance to back down. Granting it a victory may leave a bad aftertaste but I can’t let my pride get in the way.[Avoid the fight]

Because this will be the GM's attempt to knock Siegfried out so we can't get multiple things done.
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>>34238710
It's a tough choice. If we back down we hand him a victory but it may not be as big as he thinks. Mana knows a good amount about him it would seem and the others are pretty sharp. In being this overt he may have tipped them off without us even needing to say anything. Even if we say it was nothing they won't buy it. And if I'm right about that, he'll already be set for some failure as he'll assume they don't know, but they do or at least suspect.

This seems to be one of the beast's weaknesses. He's smart and all, but also emotional and not prone to long term thinking. Every one of the little deals and plots he's ever offered us appeared to be made up on the fly, off the top of his head for some immediate or potential long term benefit. In short, plans that come from one who is not a schemer on the level of those we've been facing. I know it is best to overestimate rather than underestimate the opponent, but everyone has to have some kind of weakness.
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>>34238490
>>No, I’ve never backed down before, I won’t start now.[Into the rabbit hole ye go, /tg/]
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>>34238816

Attempt? I'm leaving two choices to pursue a fight, you've only got yourself to blame if Siegfried get knocked out while dealing with the Beast.

>>34238881
>>34238887

Seem like we've got 2 for 2 then?
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Seem like we've got a stalemate, if the result of the dice is highly unpopular I'l lback down but I have to admit I'm kind of loathe to rely on it for this choice.
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>>34238914
Fine, fuck it. Go deal with the beast.
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>>34239142

Well then I guess that make it three for one
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Back down.
We'll deal with it later.
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Since we're fighting it now, and it seems hellbent on a suicidal attack, should start the fight off with an alpha strike?
A strong opening with a soul blast could disorient it.
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>’’Hahahaha!’’

It laugh, its echoing voice reverberating in my ears, throwing off any sense of directions as both of us lash out; our clash of will result in a tearing of flesh and grievous pain, my nerves flare alive once more as if a wave of molten iron splashed on my chest, the potent scalding lingered for what feel like a full minute as I felt the presence of the creature dimmer slightly, baiting me to follow whilst all senses with the real world diminished; my vision of Tsukiyomi, Daiyu and Mana disappeared slowly, their presence erased by lukewarm water, next came hearing and touch; cold and silence settled too fast to feel natural, everything I touched felt strangely slimy as well, only the slightest jolt of pain was enough to keep me conscious through this hole I was pursuing my enemy onto; never once have I backed down from its threats, I’m not about to start a precedent now.

--

White, again with unending horizon of white; no geometry or interruption to grasp onto for cardinal direction, up was only when I craned my neck upward, doing so revealed the presence of the canine dark monstrous creature that was the Beast sticking onto this ‘’roof’’. Its entire body oozed pure, corrupted dark; every pore of flesh letting out gravity defying oil as the liquid dripped constantly onto the floor of this ‘’roof’’. Its size easily dwarfed my own, perhaps three fourth of a man full height in pure, canine muscles. Four legs, a long, deformed face with an overtly large jaw and a single eye bulging out of its side greeted and sneered down at me, a few teeth grinding together fell out, and, instead of its oozing dark blood, fall onto my floor in a few ominous clicks breaking the silence.
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>‘’I can’t believe it! You are the most stubborn bastard imaginable!’’

Its voice – my voice- spoke with revelry alongside the insane tone of bloodlust; the creature said it was ready to create a stalemate, that our battle would result in mutual assured destruction, I fully intend to prove it wrong of course and its mockery – daring to sue MY voice- only fueled my anger; I was already embracing Focus, the feeling of strength validating my existence inside the ephemeral world of this realm of the soul.

>’’Come on, come on boy, no one’s there to fuck with us anymore, throwing cautions and plans to the wind for a good time is simply natural, right? I never knew you were after my heart too… what a fucking disgusting gigolo!’’

Childish as always, a pure manifestation of chaos was taunting, laughing, bleeding, staining up above, staining the white in dark and I felt pain in my jaw from how tightly I’ve kept it clenched.

>Perhaps I should try a dialogue. [But what?]
>Go on the offensive right now as its gloating! [Roll 1d20]
>Give it the cold shoulder.
>Something else? [You can always try and retreat]

>You can also decide for a soul blast whenever you want, deciding between Low-Mid-High-Extreme level will need a consensus (all of them obviously related to increasingly precious memories)
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Rolled 13 (1d20)

>>34240161
>Go on the offensive right now as its gloating! [Roll 1d20]
Hit it while it's talking.
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>>34240161
>give it the cold shoulder
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>>34240280
>>34240282

No tiebreaker yet? Do I need to roll again?
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>>34240161
>>Go on the offensive right now as its gloating! [Roll 1d20]
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Rolled 11 (1d20)

>>34240499
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Rolled 20 (1d20)

>>34240423
>>34240280

Look like I'm rusty with my dice, rolling again with the proper count. Then I'll write.
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>>34240549

Well then time to get to it.
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>>34240549
This... is bullshit. That's 3, *3* friggin' crits in a row for you! I'm half tempted to just let you roll for us from now on.

I must ask, how many virgins were offered up? I must know, for science.
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>>34240743
We're boned either way. Remember what happeend in the past when he's rolled for us? Hadraniel nat 1 in the swamp? We're just not meant to beat the beast now.
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>>34241220
I never thought we even had a chance alone against it, the goal now is to survive or drive it off somehow.

Why? Why does everyone like to fight the instant an opportunity presents itself even when it's so obviously a trap?
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>>34241297
When else are we going to get chances to deal with the beast or get help? We just tried to and we aren't even able to mention it without the beast stopping us. Had to try at some point.
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>>34241315
I'm saying it would have been wiser to get the onnas trained up first, then try and deal with this. The fight was inevitable yes, but there was a more logical order of events to pursue.
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>>34241315

Remember that the Beast always fled in the end, you've scored quite a few victories against it.
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>>34241378
Well, with how powerful the beast is now, it doesn't seem like they amounted to much.
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>>34241378
Hollow victories since it just let the Beast get away and get stronger.
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>>34241420
>>34241469

It would have been even stronger if it won, don't discount your efforts guys.
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>’’How many times did you fuck me over anyway? Three? Four? Probably even more than that, I must have tried to escape when I didn’t develop a memory any-‘’

This is a realm where imagination tramples logic; I don’t know if it was gloating, baiting or waiting, its canine body was slightly lowered and ready to jump as I stared up silently, casting was a mere act of thinking; the distance between us was an advantage, water and ice form an effective synergy.

«Ten, ten will do. Up, down, side, arcing…»

Thusly was my will realized, my javelins already launched toward my one foe, his lowered guard wasn’t a bait; it really was gloating without paying attention to its surrounding and that’s why the first of my projectiles pierced its toxic hide, bull eye’s right in the middle of its ugly deformed face, the force of the spell ripped it out like some kind of overripe apple, an ugly disgusting squishy sound reverberating inside the white, another javelin pierced its side as my spells weren’t launched in coordination, for I assume immediate movement from the Beast, that for some reason, didn’t move a muscles, right until all of my projectile pierced its body, goring it in oversized spikes of ice.
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It feel from its top like a cadaver, falling on the soil in another sickening squelch of humid, rotten meat; I hadn’t scored a kill but the Beast offensive came in a most unexpected way; its entire body mutated as it suddenly stood up and jumped upward, shedding off part of its slick hides; newly created projectile followed its clumsy arcs, pursuing it and chancing direction as I corrected the path of my spells which soon increased from five to ten, twenty… That’s when I realize the Beast was fuming; smokes escape its humid pore and its head, gored to oblivion, opened in a sickening tear as three of my projectiles were imbedded in its torso, mouth opened and crunched the solid ice as a cascade of fluid came out in my direction, Focus analyzed it immediately; a square wave of acidic substance of five by five meters, no way in hell can I jump or run away from that in a split second, defense is-.

It ate through the iced walls and fell upon me, right into my torso, covering all my body from the way down; valiant escape perhaps but futile and the pain barely register; I died right then and there on the spot, muscles, sinews, bones liquefied by the liquid.

A pain so beyond imaging my brain simply couldn’t process it, thus the sense itself disappears until my body regenerated and reformed.
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«----!!!!»
I don’t know what I screamed but control of my body disappeared, spells, ices, waters, steams; all that I knew, all that I’ve learned was launched in an uncontrollable storm; the pain of reviving plucking away my sanity bit by bit, creating a hole quickly filled by molten anger, pure, simple insanity to the bastard that did this to me.

«----!»

It said something, I don’t know but vision returned; my uncontrollable burst of spells had put the Beast on the defensive now, waiting ten meters form me in a newly formed canine body, slick oily furs replaced by blade while its ugly, oversized maw truly deserve the title of abomination a new limb had sprouted from its shoulder; what looked like a thin arm and a large fist bent forward alongside a newly mutated tail curving downward, dribbles of dark acid plucking onto the white ground.

>You’ve gained a permanent +1 to all your combats rolls due to your rage!
>Attack or defense? Both require a roll [1d20, you can also try to come up with a strategy as always or I can suggest a course of action.]
>It’d be much safer to retreat, pride be damned!
>Something else?
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>>34241649
It's been a while since this question was answered: we can make acid, can we also make bases?

Either way, I think we should press the attack. Ice javelins with their points flattened and sharpened into near-molecular blades and fired at the Beast to try to slice limbs and carve off flesh should be possible, right?
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>>34241649
>attack
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>>34241837

Define ''bases''

Acid is in your repertoire is its a liquid, doing it in the real world is extremely costly, not so much in the Soul World.

>ce javelins with their points flattened and sharpened into near-molecular blades and fired at the Beast to try to slice limbs and carve off flesh should be possible, right?

They'll be longer to cast, but it's possible; let's just hope you beat the Beast roll.

>>34241868

Leaving the course of action to me as we go on the offensive?
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>>34241837
It's risky but I'll second this
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>>34241967
>>34241837

Very well, you guys roll the usual
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Rolled 5 (1d20)

>>34241999

Dammit I forgot mine.
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Rolled 5 (1d20)

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Rolled 18 (1d20)

>>34241999
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Rolled 18 (1d20)

>>34242016
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>>34241931
Base as in the opposite of an acid on the pH scale. If someone throws acid and I through a base then there's a reaction.
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>>34242071
>>34242064

Well shit, two 19.Look like Siggy is mad.

>>34242142

Ah I see, th knowledge itself isn't really known to Siegfried and deducing the pH of that corruption is too much even for Focus, but good thinking either, I suspect you guys want to throw some odificed, bladed javelins?
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>>34242142
Don't forget how that tends to be exothermic, if the chem anon is still around I'd like to ask him how scarily exothermic they can get. As I know that, at some point reactions can produce so much heat that nobody wants to be anywhere near them when they occur in a big enough way. I wish to know of any neutralization reactions that are like that.

>>34242233
Can always fire off both and see where more steam is produced. Where focus has failed, SCIENCE will prevail. And monomolecular blades seem like fun. If only we could make things spin, spinning blades are always fun.
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>>34242310

You can spin things
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>>34242372
Well then I leave it to the others. Should Siggy be launching flat or crescent shaped near-molecular blades straight at his enemy, or does he bother to make them double edged and make em' spin too?
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>>34242472
Roll the dice and let that decide.
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>>34242472
>>34242551

I'm already writing the strike, it'd be redundant to roll for that other thing, too.
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I can’t stand on my feet, whilst all my limbs have thankfully accounted for the pain is debilitating, as if each pump of my heart spread a wave of molten hurt throughout my body, I barely had the strength to keep conscious; this has to be the most painful experience of my life, this damn creature isn’t playing games anymore and now, smelling my weakness it lunge forward, zigzagging and jumping with impressive finesse as its giant fist oftentimes smash the ground to propel itself every which way, the few projectiles I send to slow it down either misses or end up smashed by the giant fist, working only to excite the Beast and that’s exactly what I want because my hands conceals the head of a pair of particularly potent spike spinning in the white ground that, I realize, wasn’t translucid for it concealed the spells perfectly.

Two javelins sized projectile span and span onto the soil, their head a sharp blade that escape even the comprehension of Focus for my mind wanting simply one thing; murderous blades that now tore apart my palms, blood oozing out of my hands stained the ground as I bite down the pawn for the few seconds the Beast needed to close distance, ready to flatten me with its giant third limb, another glut of dark acid even vomited out of its mouth as projectile when the creature landed in front of me; a futile efforts for twice its volume in water sprang forth from my vulnerable position while the two concealed blade tore apart my palms (the pain made me lose all strengths in my arms) and similarly tore right into the bladed armor of the demonic dog effortlessly, spinning into its entrails, goring, ripping tearing… and exploding.
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Not wise perhaps but bloody effective; the blades of its furs became shrapnel’s are the dog was literally reduced to pieces, the magic inside the javelins was enough to, quite literally, force an anomaly in this world already beyond common sense, imprinting them with the simple concept of ‘’destroying’’. Pieces and bits tore into my clothes, cutting up part of my face before I raised a protective wall to catch the residue as my enemy was already reforming itself, droplets of dark liquid concentrating in a single gelatinous mass whilst its voice screamed bloody murder.

Dead, yes, but far from down; he put this fight as mutually assured destruction, perhaps it wouldn’t be so bad to provide.

>Pursue the offensive [Here this tug-of-war will continue for quite some time since neither Siegfried or the Beast can kill each other’s fast, I’ll be needing 3d20 as we move on to the next phase of the battle.]

>Back down and retreat; I know I won’t be able to speak of its existence for I’ll be pulled into another battle, but at least I’ve landed a draw.
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Rolled 3, 14, 20 = 37 (3d20)

>>34242815
>>Pursue the offensive [Here this tug-of-war will continue for quite some time since neither Siegfried or the Beast can kill each other’s fast
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>>34242815
>Back down and retreat; I know I won’t be able to speak of its existence for I’ll be pulled into another battle, but at least I’ve landed a draw.

We made our point, no need to drag it out further.
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>>34242838
Might as well go all in.
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>>34242815
>Pursue the offensive [Here this tug-of-war will continue for quite some time since neither Siegfried or the Beast can kill each other’s fast, I’ll be needing 3d20 as we move on to the next phase of the battle.]
The point of this fight was to be able to talk about the beast.
If we retreat then we won't have accomplished the reason for this fight.
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>>34242864
I changed my mind. Retreat.
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Yes but it's not going to back down either.

So, I think we've got two for two now, don't we?
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Why would we retreat right now?
We won't be able to talk about the Beast again without another fight, and if we postpone it then it'll just heal its wounds while we likely won't be able to.
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>>34242976
This. Fight it. We've already burned time and energy on this, retreating now will of wasted it all.
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>>34242854
>>34242901
You both realize we have to fight it AGAIN when we try to bring it up with Tsu and the others, right?
That postponing the battle just gives the Beast an opportunity to rest and get stronger while we get weaker.
You guys realize this, right?
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Further down the rabbit hole.
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>>34243046
Are we using >>34242838?
If so, what happens when two crits collide?
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>>34243060

Bad things.

This is one hell of a close match, Siggy and Beast are really 50/50.

Now I'll be back in about 20 minutes and write what might this thread conclusion, I didn't quite expect for things to go down this way but... it's pretty satisfying anyway.
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>>34243046
>20 on the last die in both rolls
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Again I ask, how did you curry your favor with the dice gods? Because whatever you did, empirical evidence suggests it worked.
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>>34243457

I think I pay for it with all the damn diseases I keep getting.
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>>34243478
So you've been worshiping Papa Nurgle. I just hope ol' Tzeentch starts showing me some favor soon.
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When neither party can bring finality to their conflicts and all options of dialogues rendered null by the psychosis of combat and never ending cycle of revival, battles become almost a play, something to enjoy from far away as the logic of Man and Beasts alike disappeared into one, single purpose; murder, murder him, kill him at any and all cost.

Thusly the white Soul World sheltered a pair of psychopathic madmen throwing spells and breaking every known law of logic and magic with only a single barrier constant throughout the conflict; neither Siegfried and the Beast sacrificed part of their memories, they fought, bled, died and fought again as themselves until the very end.
Arcing javelins, steam, even using their own limbs as traps; the Beast killed, the mage killed in turn as unreliable time stretched into hours; the javelins changed, broke down, phasing in and out of existence as the presence itself of the young man magic warped and corrupted whilst the Beast incessant charge oftentimes reduced its paws to sludge; both errors would cost a life. One victory for the beast had it fool the man as it mutated its body in a slimy substance, eating through his lower part until he used those limbs as fuel, thereby killing them both; another had Siegfried gain the upper hand as he remembered the talent of his mother to unleash magma, melting the dog offensive to nothing as he burned briefly from Overcast.

Five, six….fifteen, sixteen… thirty, thirty-one….fifty-five….seventy-two
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They died incessantly in this eternal bout, absent of any and all witness, a duel whose purpose had long been forgotten in order to administer more pain, more death, to grasp victory until the fabled ‘’mutually assured destruction’’, the one fate revealed by the Beast, became reality in a mutual spell of such destruction that Man and Dog died together, memories ripped apart as souls screamed, straining in total debilitating pain, crippling limbs and all attempts to move; ice, water, acid, corruption all of it mingled in the white, creating lakes of sludge, magic matter that couldn’t be identified and again, unable to move they fought, piercing and melting one another until… Focus disappeared.

--

«A circle of five girls, I know them well; blue hair, dark hair, tomboyish stature, cute little princess, they hug me incessantly, each trying to get a piece of the Butcher, some hands even pinching where they shouldn’t as chuckle and laughter erupt in the scenery of snow»

…Why them?

Coherence, it’s back now; this image suddenly burst the bubble; my limbs are ruptured, fractured, I can’t move worth a damn and Focus has disappeared, yet my veins still glows blue, maybe I can still cast… although, maybe I’ve reached some kind of limit. I can’t move worth a damn yet I don’t feel pain, just dull but at least I can think for myself again now; beyond, a little distance at my front the beast is lying down with three javelins in its belly, yet kept on breathing without bleeding as if my weapons were mere decorations.

‘’Aargh…kehehe’’

Its plaint turned into a laugh and I tried to speak, to taunt but then I realize…

I’m missing my lower jaw.

‘’How the hell are we still alive…?’’

Each syllables was uneven, the creature spoke in a broken tone in what felt like its own voice; a young man in the prime of his life yes, suffering, wounded with still full of vitality.
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‘’The soul can only take so much, y’know’’

He spoke next and I wiggled my useless limbs, the pain shot through my entire body like lightning but the sensation was welcome, I could try and feel alive again, embrace Focus, skewer the bastard again…

‘’Must have been a thousand deaths…’’

Like I give a shit. Dammit this white world is hurting my eyes, maybe there’s some more melted flesh or something…

‘’Familiar with blood right? Your body must be bleeding all over now; blood going outta yer ears, outta yer nose, mouth, hell even yer ass too, we both share the same body and the soul is linked to it, yet… yet were still alive’’

…What? Why can’t I feel anything then?

‘’Were alone in here, cut off, inside our soul, not even dear all-mighty mother or that cunt of an angel can come in, this is our home turf’’

‘’You…’’

It seems the missing part of my mouth had come back somehow, good, I think I’m getting better.

‘’…when…did you grow unafraid of death?’’

‘’Still am, punk’’

He answered back with renewed vitality, his own slow regeneration more than visible through the ease of his tone and voice.

‘’I just figured I won’t let you eat your damn cake; if you want to continue this bout, be my guess, I figure someone is going to pay for this shit since your overprotective mother is obviously up to something so hey, more fun to us right!?’’

It wiggled some, long tail swishing to and fro, bleeding out dark, corrupted acidic corruption back on the already stained White.

>’’Mutually assured destruction, that’s how you’ve put it, right?’’ [Fight again]

>…It’d be safer, more logical to go; we’re just as stubborn, I’ll never sway him and he won’t say me in turn. [Leave]

>Going into overtime for this one.
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>>34244348
Before we choose, do we know if the Beast is going to interfere again and prevent us from talking about it, if we leave now? Or has it been weakened enough that we feel confident that we can talk without being interrupted?
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>>34244446

It's going to come again and interrupt, remember. ''I won't let you eat your damn cake''

Also a long time went by, easily five hours.
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>>34244468
How much of the day is left?
If there's still time to train the Yukionna, then I'd say we should retreat, train them, then fight the Beast again.
If the day is already gone, then we may as well try to put an end to this.
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>>34244503

It's about 4pm, give or take.

The Yukionnas can also be trained tomorrow in quest.

As for putting an end to this, let's just say I'm putting this ever dreadful gm choice this once because I've given more than enough warnings.

>Are you SURE you want to do this?
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>>34244546
>The Yukionnas can also be trained tomorrow in quest.
>can also
This implies that they can still be trained for most of a day's worth of training today.
Is that true? Or is this just unfortunate phrasing?
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>>34244566

Let's just say lost of things happened when you were having your fun time with the Beast, next thread is going to be in Athena shoes picking up directly when Siggy keel over.

I'm not going to give much if any information now, you are in a complete, total retreat of the real word yet somehow still alive when the Beast expected both of you to be dead by now.

This has to be the most stubborn clash I've ever written, pretty fun but as always, there's going to be consequences for both side.
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This is quite the radio silence, I'm not going to roll on this one but I'd be loathe to end on a cliffhanger...

Well I'll be stopping soon enough anyway, I've got a busy week ahead of me and can't spare the time tomorrow.
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>>34244616
Much of the day is gone, we can try to get training the Yukionna in with the remains of the day, then try to speak about the Beast at night, and that will give us 8 more hours to try to bring this to a close. We'll need to use soul blasts next time in order to finish this fight.

So my vote is to retreat for now, and push to do Yukionna training for the rest of the early evening.
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>>34244348
I don't know what to say so I'll just type what comes off the top of my head. Forgive me if it sucks...

"And why not!? You claim to have read my every memory and thought, has that not given you even a single ounce of understanding? Of empathy!? Am I so utterly loathsome to you that you'd gladly see me die even at the cost of your own existence!? Answer me!"
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>>34244703

Given the small amount of voices right now, I thank you for your vote but I think I'd like to get more.

>>34244780

Hmm... maybe I should make a short answer with this sentence. I tihnk most of the players went asleep so I might have to end on this choice, as loathe as I am to do so.
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>>34244780
It does suck. Terribly so.
So you're voting to stay, then? Because right now, we need to make the choice of whether we stay or cut our losses.
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>>34244829
I'm voting to try saying something to it. I am not a skilled linguist so thanks for your opinion. I just want to try and see why he's so dead set on denying us our will at this point. I don't want to lock us into anything, but if possible I'd like a type of answer.

It is one thing, to wish for something to not happen. It is quite another my good sir, to lay your life on the line in order to prevent it. People choose certain death for, to them, *good* reasons. What is the beast's reason, to lay it all on the line just to keep us from relaying a single piece of information? All Siggy's going for is informing them of the squatter's sentience. Why is it so important to him that such a fact not be known to others? Why is he willing to die to ensure that does not happen? I'd like to at least take a shot at knowing at least a part of it.
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>>34244703
Yeah we try again tonight so we don't waste the whole day
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>>34244935
>I am not a skilled linguist
It helps if you know the definitions of the words you are using.
You are not eloquent, and the word 'linguist' refers to a person who speaks multiple languages or studies linguistics, the science of language, versus prose and rhetoric.

As for the Beast's motivations, one of the reasons would be that the information would be used in some way against it, combined with whatever knowledge that Tsu, Daiyu, or Mana already have. And if it knows that such knowledge could be used against it, it's unlikely to say how the knowledge of its sapience would be used against it.
I will concede that it can be overwhelmed by emotion sometimes, and may let slip some knowledge, but that's just a lucky break when we should actually be attempting to use the available information to come to our own conclusions.
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If I could laugh, I would; I felt like a deranged, shell of a person as I stared at my fallen foe, barely twitching and alive despite its perforated torso.

‘’Soooo…’’

The world escaped a thirsty mouth, it felt dry and sandy, most of my teeth were missing and my tongue danced on my gums making pronouncing frustratingly difficult but I managed, at least I don’t have to worry about keeping a strong image.

‘’You’ve been observing this journey and remember the loops, probably more than I do and you don’t have a lick of empathy…’’

He laughed, interrupting me mind sentence as I felt my teeth regrow painlessly, I made sure to retreat my tongue to avoid any more needless pain as the hoarse breath of my foe calmed down some, one of the javelin dropped from his chest, as if plucked away by an invisible hand.

‘’Spare me your hypocrisy and platitude mister gigolo, I’ve got plenty of care for everyone’’

Now it was my turn to laugh, fine then, this chaotic kid doesn’t give a damn about this kind of stuff, all powers to him.

‘’Then…why the hell did you fight until we’d both die?’’

A sigh escaped it which soon melted into another dry chuckles as it wiggled its body again, trying to stand while my own limbs felt alive again – and painful.

‘’I figured I ought to stop being a coward; beside I don’t want you to talk about me, I’m your very own imaginary friend you never let go, our secrets ought to stay between, I don’t want some cunt judging me more than you already do’’

‘’That’s it…?’’

I don’t know if I should laugh or be angry.

‘’More than a good enough reason to die for, punk. Thank for not consuming memories so far tough, I think we’ll both lost our didn’t once a sacrifice is made’’

‘’What…?’’

‘’Yer a stubborn bastard Siegfried, that’s what I’ve learned from you, so I figured I should show just as much guts’’

>…what now?
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>>34245145
>‘’More than a good enough reason to die for, punk. Thank for not consuming memories so far tough, I think we’ll both lost our didn’t once a sacrifice is made’’

I ruined the end of this sentence, let me redo.

>''More than a good enough reason to die for, punk. Thank for not consuming memories so far tough, I think we'll both lose our identity once that cascade begin.''
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>>34245145
"You intend to kill me and take my place anyway, so why shouldn't I keep that from you?
"We're done here, for now. We'll see how far you're willing to go at our rematch."

Leave, and try to salvage the day. We'll take Tsu, Daiyu, and Mana aside later tonight to try this again. This time we'll use soul blasts.
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>>34245145
"You've given me no reason to want to keep you secret. You've made your will obvious. You plan to take over and kill me. There's no other way this will end other than the both of us dying because I won't let that happen. You have no leverage over me or given me a reason to keep you around."
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>>34245145
Can we suckerpunch the Beast right now with a soul blast? How much power would the memory of first meeting Athena and Sylphis give us?
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>>34245322
Voting against the use of soul blast.
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>>34245329
We're going to have to use soul blasts eventually. If not now, then in our rematch. The Beast has simply gotten too strong to be able to defeat him with will alone.
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>>34245373

He'll use Soul Blast in turn; hope you are prepared for the price to pay.

I tihnk the consensus is to leave, so... Let's do that. I'm pretty exhausted but let's see if I can bring this thread to a fitting end.
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>>34245403
>He'll use Soul Blast in turn; hope you are prepared for the price to pay.
The alternative is that he bides his time and then pounces on us when he's strongest and we're weakest.
Is there really a choice there?
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>>34245528
I honestly don't see a way to win. At the moment it sounds like mutual destruction and we lose now or we finish the war and he strikes then when we've been weakened and lose then.
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>>34245403
Fascinating how Siggy is doing a better job at killing himself than any of his enemies so far.
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>>34245403
I'll agree to that. Fascinating that he, in a way, sorta admitted a kind of begrudging admiration. Hipocritacal gigolo we may be, but such stubborness is to be commend in a way.
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‘’You… you’ve given no reason for me to keep your secret’’
I’m finally able to move my arms, the fractures all healed up now but my limbs felt throbbing hot and very sensitive, merely touching the ground sent explosive sensation of pain all the way up to my elbow.
The wounded dog roared in laughter, its tail slapping the ground whilst the two javelins knocked against each other, produced a dull ringing sound, killing off his amusement as a whine of pain escaped him.
‘’I’ve given you one right now, fancy making another bout in an hour or two, punk?’’
‘’You! You have no-‘’
‘’Shut the fuck up’’
The demonic dog shambled on its feet, quickly falling back on the ground from the effort as it’s turned its head to bite onto one of the javelins and pulled it off roughly, causing a horrible hemorrhage as the open wound gushed like a renewed faucet, painting the white soil dark.
‘’I can’t read you now, but shut up. You want me dead and I want you dead but neither of us can kill the other without killing ourselves in turn – that’s all we need to know, right? You go and tattletale about me and we’ll fight again; we’ll die and your lovely mom will renew the loops and maybe then I’ll get a better chance. Either that or I bide my time for the 30th day, unless we get killed off by the angel or that felwhore of a blood mage, so go ahead, Siggy.’’
…retreat, I must retreat, as much as I’d like to perforate this… this entity in crystals I feel like I’m stepping in a trap, being too hasty can be dramatic, too dramatic.
‘’Come back alter tonight, or tomorrow; I’ll be waiting.’’

I’ve never found anyone to be my equal; fellow companions and soldiers were either weaker or stronger than myself, but this guy… his words of ‘’mutually assured destruction’’ rang true, truer than any other truth I know about this loops.

Siegfried Shieffer is living on borrowed time, nothing more than a dead man walking.
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Maybe I’m just being led astray by my emotions. The world grew dim, vision hazy, shimmering, moving as if underwater and I felt life in my limbs, something different form the wounds of the soul.

--

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX6PDywtUNo

I felt the tears in my eyes before opening them, sweaty, tired, grimy, dirty… a poor state to wake up to no doubt, I was expecting much worse; it’s not so bad, some water and some new sheet would do me well.

«Aah… so this is your secret, I can’t even imagine your burden»

Hadraniel voice is not something I could ever forget; her gentle tone spread inside my head in a quiet, breathless echo, a clumsy attempt to imitate the Beast communication, some voice beside me erupted, youthful exclamations heralding my awakening but my heart throbbed painfully, a much more real manifestation compared to the Soul World.
First my vision was filled in white; a strong light forced my eyelids closed and I felt a pair of hands touch my arms, my flesh felt strangely sensitive and I gasped in turn despite myself, I could only squint now and the vision above me was otherworldly in its pure – pure- horror.

Hadraniel was floating, not flying; her wings folded around her shoulders and arms like they so often did, her hands were joined together in prayers, her garbs consisted of a single white sundress floating in magical, eternal breeze that carried her long golden hair sideway and the halo atop her head glowered dimly.
Her face was peaceful, a satisfied, quiet happy expression that was more than enough for any man to fall in love in…

>’’…This is too much dedication dammit. I can't... raah!’’

Then the creature fled. yet still stood vigil as always, even out of reach and mind.
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She was also bleeding.

Heavily.

White-golden liquid flowed down her noses, ears and mouth, cascading down her neck to fall onto the dress that now clung onto her body from humidity, completely drenched from head to toes in her own blood, more liquid kept on flowing down her legs, dripping on the end of this white cocoon, pooling up in a considerable amount, too much for any man to stay alive.

’’Why are we still alive?’’

The Beast wondered earlier. Blood flowing from every orifice, enough to kill any man, as if caught in a horrific hemorrhaging fever… Hadraniel had taken all of these wounds onto herself.

« I figure someone is going to pay for this shit since your overprotective mother is obviously up to something»

Oh, how I hate it when this bastard speak the truth; when I craned my neck, unable to bear the sight of the Embodiment, I looked past the crying novices to see my mother standing behind them, arms folded on her chest, in a grave, closed expression and once our eyes met, she stared silently, fondly but also sad.

…Ah

Damnit. Damnit damn it damn it.

>A Tale of Monsters 126 –end-
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>>34246089
Dammit, We need Leileth again to try to stabilize Hadraniel.
And she won't be able to absorb our wounds again so we can't have that rematch.
That last set of rolls was our only chance to win against the Beast.
Looks like he's won this round, and he expects us to shoulder all of the costs fighting Orion and Deruella.
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Dealing with the Beast is ultra hard mode, I wasn't expecting the thread to flow in this direction at all.
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>>34246237
If the fight hadn't been such a stalemate, we would have either won, or we would have retreated after the first exchange.

Since you made it sound like we were equally matched, there appeared to be a good chance of winning.
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>>34246280
We barely won the fight, anon. And it feels more like we lost. We got nothing out of this at all.
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>>34246280

Because that's how you are, the Beast and Siggy -are- completely and equally match, so much that finding a true advantage over the other is night on impossible for now .

Mind you I'm quite satisfied with how things went, thing could ahve progressed in a very different way if you didn't back off because that was the test with him tonight; to see how far you'd go to pursue a potential victory, no matter the cost.

But there's always a cost, either you pay, or those devoted to you take it upon themselves to do it.
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>>34246339
Did we get anything out of this fight, or was it just a complete loss?

Because, Hadraniel is going to be out of commission for the next day at minimum, and it's questionable if she'll be able to fight. She may even die at this point.

Any damage we inflicted on the Beast is going to be restored by our next matchup, and he expects us to use up all of our memories fighting his battles for him.

Since Hadraniel communicated with us in a manner similar to the Beast, and with her words, does that mean that she saw the fight we were having?
Has Mana and Tsu pieced together what is happening in our soul?
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>>34246402

>Since Hadraniel communicated with us in a manner similar to the Beast, and with her words, does that mean that she saw the fight we were having?

More than that, she's got intimate information and knowledge about the both of you now.

>Has Mana and Tsu pieced together what is happening in our soul?

Mana explained it all to Daiyu and Tsu during the worst of it, yes.

I'm suprised you guys tried to confront your equal with such intensity, I was honestly expecting you guys to try and trick the Beast so yo ucould have had Mana reveal its existence to the other girls in secret. It wouldn't have been easy of course, but as we know, it's not known for its wits. The entire battle was a trap

The Beast recover at your pace, more or less, once you get healed up, same for him.
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>>34246477
It can sense the fact we wanted to talk about it. Pretty hard to imagine we can trick it if it can tell that kind of stuff.
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>>34246477
>I was honestly expecting you guys to try and trick the Beast so yo ucould have had Mana reveal its existence to the other girls in secret.
For that to work, we would have needed to remember that Mana not only knows about the Beast, but that she knows that it's become sapient, which I don't think she knows (the latter, I think she knew about the former already).
Then there's the problem of trying to trick it when it can read our mind, at the level where it can understand our thoughts as its own.
I'm sure that you've come up with a way it could be done, since you have full and complete knowledge of the Beast, how its mind works, and how it can read Siegfried's mind; we're not that knowledgable, and we're working under a time constraint.
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>>34246499

It interrupted words by squeezing and hurting you yeah, kind of like a childish slap or punch, provocations if you will along with taunts. Mana knows about the Beast and she’s sharp, enough ‘’ugh’’ and ‘’ow’’ would have clued her in fast, instead you guys went into the rabbit hole and this is the result. The Beast wasn’t controlling any limbs and he can read your intention somewhat, but it can’t control you or really damage your body as you stand vigilant.

>>34246561

I'm just suprised you guys actually went in so fast, followed the bastard into this hole, I wasn't able to sprinkle all the hints I wanted because of that.
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>>34246601
>I wasn't able to sprinkle all the hints I wanted because of that.
I hope that's a lesson you take to heart about attempts to be clever, and how they usually backfire.
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>>34246705

I'm not exactly sure about said lesson other than writing better as a whole, really. I dealt with your choices the best way I could without trying to be in your camp and spell out the solution with Siegfried monologue.
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>>34246705
More like a lesson in the consequences of goading a quest MC into a fight or appealing to their sense of self preservation. Characters played by the schizophrenic amalgamation of player voices tend to dig their heels in and assume an even more foul disposition than a pissed off honey badger when pushed.

Badger butt mostly unrelated.
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>>34246824

That, too.

Well I think today was a good lesson overall about the Beast capabilities, the guy hasn't had any real focus in a while aside from being slapped around by Siegfried.
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>>34246850
Not like that slapping him around amounted to much after what we saw today.
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>>34246601
>Mana knows about the Beast and she’s sharp, enough ‘’ugh’’ and ‘’ow’’ would have clued her in fast, instead you guys went into the rabbit hole and this is the result.
Well Mana didn't show up to give us hope that she could figure out what's happening; it was just Tsu until we into our soul world.

>>34246740
>spell out the solution with Siegfried monologue.
On the other hand, the writing did make it sound like any and all attempts at communication were failing, and Mana and Daiyu just got serious expressions on seeing us try to hold in our symptoms (not actually doing anything), on top of players being taunted by a hated enemy, would most likely lead to them running headfirst into a fight.

The way that you phrase the available options WILL affect how players view them.
The first two options in >>34237322 imply that fighting will get us what we want by beating the Beast down, and that backing off will cause the meeting to be cut short because we have too many other things to deal with.
The way that the options were phrased, it was a choice between fighting to get what we want, and dropping it in order to do something else.
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>>34246870

Everyone of his powerup or powerplay attempt were countered save for one.
>Non-sentient tried to invade Hadraniel psyche
Radiance Denied.
>Non-sentient tried to corrupt Emeth whtie psyche
Denied
>Non-sentient tried to ASSUME DIRECT CONTROL after Mylen exorcism
Angelic Denied.
>Mess with your spell to melt the face off a knight.
Success!
>Tries to eat Athena precious memory
Denied
>Tried to eat the weakned Nightmare
Skewered by angelic spear, denied.

Only reason he evolved is due to all the corruption eating.

>>34246907
>Well Mana didn't show up to give us hope that she could figure out what's happening; it was just Tsu until we into our soul world.
She and Daiyu showed up right as you guys decided to delve into the rabbit hole.

You have to remember that I write in the first person, which mean it's fileld by Siegfried subjectiveness, his hopes and opinions fills the choice I make, even if they make him/you go astray.

But I'm not perfect either, I couldn't balance out caution and hotbloodedness enough.
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>>34246907
Yes the choices were give or take because the beast is a giant boss fight and was advertised as such.
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>>34246978

Oh also!

>Bite off a part of his soul to power up a soul blast chortly after saving Amarantha.

Beast got a whole lot of losses on his shoulders, it's a wonder he didn't wisened up earlier.

Make no mistake you've got a whole lot of win against him.
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>>34246985
But INH said himself that Mana would have figured out what was going on if we had refused the fight in the first place, meaning that choosing to leave and not fight, would have actually led to the knowledge of the Beast being told to Tsu and Daiyu without us losing any time.
The option to fight was made to appear like it would give us what we want, instead of being the trap option it actually was.
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>>34247051
>Make no mistake you've got a whole lot of win against him.
So a whole lot of wins only makes him unkillable, not simply an auto-lose during the first round.
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>>34247089

Yes, because he was never advertised an a easy fight. All your wins allowed his power to stay in check, not grant an overwhelming advantage.

Orion, Deruella and Beast - these are the three foes you need to vanquish for the fabled happy ending and you can bet I'm not going to make it easy.
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>>34247077
>>34247089
You complain too much. Tonights fails are only on us and INH made it very clear at every turn both tonight and in the past that fighting the beast is a major challenge. We chose to use the plain >attack optionswithout strategizing to give us a winning advantage in the fight so things wwouldn't be equal.
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>>34247225
We choose "Let's strategize oh wait, the beast can tell we want to talk about it and is stopping us. Let's deal with that.". The right option being to apparently assume people would understand the fact us suddenly being unable to talk means the beast is involved is kind of a bad thing to do. Especially since Mana likely has had chances to talk about the beast to others before but hasn't it seems.
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>>34247247
No I mean strategizing how we want to attack it and win not that other stuff. Get over it.
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>>34247138
How many loops has the Beast been a part of us?
Is it only this most recent loop?
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>>34247268
There is no way to strategize when we know dick all about the beast. We tried to find out more about it or talk about it tonight with people that might be able to help and we were stopped. With what we know, anything we strategize is just random chance.
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>>34247268
>strategizing how we want to attack it and win
Except that INH said that winning was pretty much impossible at this point.
No amount of strategic thinking would have let us win right now, because we're apparently still missing a key piece of information or an item.
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>>34247276

It's been there from day one.

>>34247301

Pretty much this, this faight was the Beast baiting you to measure your powers and wills, that ended in a draw.

From my perspective it's a pretty damn impressive stunt.
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>>34247332
>It's been there from day one.
If it's always been there, and Tsu is one of the few beings besides us who knows about the loops (others being Daiyu, Deruella, and Orion), shouldn't she already know about the Beast?

As an aside, if Daiyu stayed in Yuria form for all of the previous loops (since she didn't have a lilum break her disguise as was done in this loop), would she even be aware of the loops, since she had her entire consciousness submerged within Yuria?
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>>34247382

>shouldn't she already know about the Beast?

Niet, the bastard never really showed himself before and, in other loops, he was barely a presence and problem at all. It's only in these later stages that he became like this.

>As an aside, if Daiyu stayed in Yuria form for all of the previous loops (since she didn't have a lilum break her disguise as was done in this loop), would she even be aware of the loops, since she had her entire consciousness submerged within Yuria?

She's not even aware of the loops right now but it starting to pick up on it, hell al lthe girls are starting to realize something is going on, even the Yukionnas.

Only Hadraniel and Tsu are actively aware of it.
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>>34247404
The beast NEVER came up in all the other loops that have happened in the past? That's convenient.
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>>34247404
>It's only in these later stages that he became like this.
Then wouldn't Tsu have started to realize something goes horribly wrong with Siegfried on the 30th day of every timeline in recent loops?
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>>34247404
So, the training for the Yukionna's is unlocking their memories of previous timelines.
Is that something that can be done for Siegfried?
Can he use those memories for soul blasts?
Because it seems like the Beast has been hoarding memories and power from each consecutive loop in order to become stronger, just like how the girls experienced cumulative effects of love as the timeloops added up.
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>>34247423

Yes, let's just say these loops ahve been going on for a long, long while.

>>34247424

Of course she knows, thing is tough Siegfried died of many, many thing on the 30th day, it's not possible to pinpoint what but she has some dbout there's soemthing serously wrong, but can't quite put the finger on it... until now.

>>34247452

>So, the training for the Yukionna's is unlocking their memories of previous timelines.

It's more like giving glimpse of them while plucking out experiences from strifes and combat then injecting it into them, you can't do this without Mother Earth, it's literally cheating with the loops.

>Is that something that can be done for Siegfried?

Yes and no, he could gain some ''experience'' but it wouldn't do much anyway since he's already well trained.

>Can he use those memories for soul blasts?

No, memories from other loops are anomalous in nature. A person can be ''Aware'' of them but knowing them like a true souvenir is impossible, the details always escape your mind and end up forgotten entirely.

>Because it seems like the Beast has been hoarding memories and power from each consecutive loop in order to become stronger, just like how the girls experienced cumulative effects of love as the timeloops added up.

There's an exception to everything, Mana isn't the only one cheating with these loops but the Beast isn't quite working like that, I'm not going to tell tough.
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>>34247501
>Mana isn't the only one cheating with these loops
So we should expect Orion and Deruella to be also cheating.
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>>34247920

Good idea



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