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You tap your foot expenctantly on the floor of the panzer as your eyes remain locked on the small hill between your position and the river. Maginot's tanks were somewhere over there, hidden behind the thick treeline. Pulling your head back, you wipe the sweat out of your eyes- the pleasent seventy-degree weather had turned your Semovante 105/25 into a steel oven and your position on the leeward side of the hill had meant that there was hardly any breeze to keep the innards of the tank cool.

You are Hina Hayami, Commander of the Italian M105/25 Self Propelled Gun "Legio IX" and as you open a your canteen in a desperate attempt to put more water into your body than you're draining from sweat, lean lean back, fighting the urge to dump the remains of the canteen into your hair to cool down. What's left has to last you until the end of the match and then long enough to drive the Semovante back to the staging area.

You sigh and flop back forward to put your eyes to the periscope. "Any word from Duce about the enemy position?" You ask your radiowoman/loader, sitting behind you at the loader's station.

"Nothing." You really wish that the little tankettes had radios instead of having to run back meet with a radio-equipped tank to make reports.

>Keep waiting- ambushes are fun!
>Move forward and go hunting- we can't wait all day!
>Other.
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>>34470637
>Keep waiting- ambushes are fun!
1, I do believe in Derp.
2. How's your sister and what's the little bundle joy's name?
3. anyone interested in some preliminary analysis of how to counter ZERG RUSH Tankettes?
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>>34470769
... Does it involve HE shells?
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>>34470637
>Keep waiting- ambushes are fun!
toughen up, woman.
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>>34470806
among other things, such as Russells manning the .50 cal. Shall I take that as confirmation to post?
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>>34470869
Go for it
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>>34471028
>>34470806
two parts here
Part 1.
>tactical/strategic observations based on described Anzio strategy.
Four words: DON’T. SPLIT. THE. PARTY.
To elaborate, the tankette strategy revolves around close-range attacks on the enemy tracks and road wheels to maim the enemy in order to allow heavier units to finish the job. This can be countered by having the entire force close enough that their ability to weave in and out of friendlies is limited and any injured unit can be covered by the rest of the detachment while repairs are made.
In reaction to tankette crews righting the vehicles after an indirect hit, all crews are to first fire rounds HE at a target to immobilize, then they are to fire standard AP rounds into the vehicle, even if it looks disabled, unless they see the white flag deployed.
>TL; DR: Double Tap, confirm kill.


Equipment purchases:
Track and road wheel covers for any applicable units
Spare track and road wheel parts
Machine guns and MG Armor-piercer rounds
why machine guns and 7.92mm tungsten-core AP rounds you ask? see next post.
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>>34471078
Part 2,
>Oorai’s machine guns with Armor Piercing Ammunition vs Italian tankette armor
>notes: 6-12mm of armor on L3/33, 14mm on L3/35, 100m range unless otherwise noted
>format: gun, cartridge: penetration
MG34, 7.92x57mm Mauser: 18mm penetration
M1919, .30-06 Springfield: 10.66mm penetration
M2 Browning, .50 BMG: 19mm, 500 meters
Besa machinegun, 7.92x57mm Mauser: see MG34
ZB-53 machine gun, 7.92x57mm Mauser: see MG34
Reibel machine gun, 7.5x54 French: no data found
>ammo used
MG34, Besa, ZB-53 : 7.92x57mm S.m.K.H.
M1919A4: M2 AP ammo
M2 Browning: .50, Ball, Armor Piercing, M2

>conclusion
The Panzer IV, 38(t), and Excelsior should be fine with the right ammunition. The StuG III may have difficulty engaging due to the lack of a turret. I would recommend equipping flexible loader and/or cupola mounted machineguns. No idea how the B1 bis will fare. The Pershing commander (i.e. us) will most likely be un-buttoned using the M2, since it’s the only weapon that has a (somewhat) reliable chance to KO the given enemy, so plentiful ammunition should be packed.

>ok, how crazy/unworkable/dumb am I getting here? Bear in mind, this is done only with Tankettes in mind. Looking forward to rest of lineup to analyze.
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>>34471127
Is it possible that any of the tankette's will be mounting a Solothurn 20mm anti-tank rifle? That might put a bit of a damper on it and make the tankette's more dangerous.

First-time participant, so if I'm wrong here, just let me know.
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>>34470769

They're doing fine. His name is James Johnathan D.

Or as I shall call him- Jimmy John. Pronounced like I am not blessed with an overabundance of teeth.
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>>34471214
Welcome, new guy to our little gathering. one quick thing, Get used to the slow pace of BlackJack, its how he rolls. on the upside, we're nice, respectful and accommodating.
but to answer your question, at least one, Pepperoni's ride. probably more though.
>>34471253
Great to hear, and good name. forgive me for my prying. I've been in childcare for years, so I got interested after overhearing moms chat endlessly about stuff like that for so long.
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>>34470637
>Keep waiting- ambushes are fun!
Twirl some pasta strands to pass the time or something.
And which Anzio are we right now, beej?

>>34471214
Pepperoni's tankette is the only one that has it.
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>>34471253
Billybob.
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>>34471380
says in OP, Hina Hayami. not sure if canon or OC though.
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>>34471417
>Hina Hayami
>Hina
>Hina-chan

Waitaminute, that's Carpaccio's isn't it?
Well, well, well... looks like her duel with Caesar is gonna be quite something.
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>>34471467
wiki says Carpaccio's real name is Hana, but you could be on to something. If that is the case, 1. yes, the duel will be something, something AWESOME! 2. simple edit on my end.
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>>34471467
Hayami is the surname for Carpaccio's VA, so I assume we're her.

Also according to the GuP LN Erika was in the Panzer III that fell in the river.
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>>34471619
That makes no sense.
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>>34471619
Wat. Just, Wat.
Miho saves Erika's life and she repays it with... well, you know...
there better be a VERY detailed explanation for those circumstances, my friend.
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>>34471380
>>34471339
So then we can safely assume that we only have the tanks that Anzio has during its regular matches, and that our current line-up is the same one used in the match versus Oorai?

Because if so, and if we are fighting Maginot, this fight'll be interesting, since I don't think our LV-33's are going to put a dent in French armor, especially if it's a S35 or B1.

Coincidentally, is there a link to an archive for threads with this character? I might as well take advantage of the 'down-time'.
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>>34471668
>>34471728
Maybe it's like some of us have been saying all along, and that Erika is just an irredeemable cunt?

(And Don't you dare write about her, Feelthy)
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>>34471791
Feelthy is here?
Considering he managed to turn one of most derisive bitch on SWQ 89 into redeemable character....
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>>34471773
actually, We just got a BIG overhaul of our forces, its where we got the 105/25, among presumably other things.
GuPQ archive: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Girls%20und%20Panzer%20Quest
>Thread 143: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/34262424/
>Thread 144:http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/34308100/

>>34471791
that's one-dimensional and terribly writing to boot, so color me skeptical.
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>>34471668
>>34471728
She even cries. I couldn't believe it either.
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>>34471863
>that's one-dimensional and terribly writing to boot, so color me skeptical.

Some people are just horrible, awful people.

Really, what's unrealistic is this idea that everyone has some kind of redeeming aspect.
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>>34471929

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTbgvYPVdXE
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>>34471919
>>34471929
The issue seems to be that you think that as a person Erika is a heartless bitch, and nothing but, while I'm thinking, What's the author's explanation/reasoning/decision making process for having both A. Erika be Blunt and Smug; and B. Erika be saved by Miho, rather than JagdPanther-Chan.
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>>34471919
Also there has got to be more before and after that, that can't be the extent of the author's dealing with an issue this big.
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>>34471863
Ah, now I understand.
Shouldn't there be a 75/34, or some other SPG with us? Hell, even a 75/18 would be welcome at this point. I may be a coward, but being out on our lonesome seems like a bad plan, even for an ambusher.
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>>34472035
>The issue seems to be that you think that as a person Erika is a heartless bitch, and nothing but
Well, she is.

>>34472075
>Also there has got to be more before and after that, that can't be the extent of the author's dealing with an issue this big.

It's a LN adaption of an anime. I can guarantee you the writing is probably just that bad.
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>>34472077
As Yukair, we did see a 75/34, so presumably its around somewhere. In canon, Anzio had a 75/18, two of them.
>>34472106
so its not (necessarily) Erika being a bitch*, just horri-bad author doing dumb shit. Explains everything. Moving on.
>* we're never going to be friends, but she does respect strength, and will respect a strong Rival. which we are.
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>>34472106
>>34472106
the LN came first, IIRC.
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>>34472035
I never said Erika was a heartless bitch, I'm honestly just as curious as you are. Also Jagdpanther-chan wasn't one of the Panzer III's crew.

>>34472075
It happens right after the final match, just after Maho asks Miho if she found her own Senshado. I can link the archive for the thread it was in, if you want.
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>>34472220
Nope. LN was a novelisation of the series. Started releasing months and months after the series started.

GuP is one of the few anime these days that *wasn't* based on a shitty LN.
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>>34472305
huh. the more you know.
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>>34472233
Yes please, I would appreciate a link. And are you sure about JP-Chan?
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>>34472233
>I never said Erika was a heartless bitch
No, *I* said that. Because she is.
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"Ugh..." Your driver groans. "Can we please just go after them?! Anything to get a breeze moving through this thing..." its tempting- oh so very tempting. Especially the part about the breeze- you can imagine what the soldiers who'd originally used these tanks had been through driving them through the Sahara.

Well, at least they'd been going forward.

You shake your head. "Negative- If they keep following the road across the bridge they'll be moving directly through our field of fire a few tanks at a time..." So you'll wait, and slowly dessicate in the heat. "Can't afford to be caught out of position when it happens."

You're about to radio Anchovy and confirm that Pepperoni hadn't messed up and gotten her unit wiped out by sticking around to duel 20mm anti-tank guns against 47mm cannons when you see a tree along the ridge quake suddenly as if something very heavy had nudged it. "Hold it! Incoming 11'o'clock!" You turn to your loader. "Load HE!"

>Fire now! Saturate the area!
>Wait until the break cover.
>Wait until they're almost on us- assure the kill.
>Other.
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>>34472370
>>Wait until the break cover.
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>>34472370
>Wait until the break cover.
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>>34472370
>Wait until the break cover.
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>>34472370
>Wait until they break cover.
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>>34472370
>Wait until the break cover.

>>34472343
http://archive.moe/a/thread/112743177/#112750870

And yeah, I thought the girl that thanked Miho before the match had fluffier hair than JP-chan, though it has been a while since I last rewatched GuP.
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>>34472370
>Wait until break cover.
Ambushin' games
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>>34472444
after reading, the whole thing still lacks the critical 'why' explanation. We get to see Maho acting behind the scenes for Miho's benefit while acting ruthless, *In Little Army*, but there is nothing showing something similar for Erika. Its a heelturn that just comes out of nowhere. More Rabu Rabu's slow warming of Erika and Miho makes FAR more sense, frankly.
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>>34472679
I've always felt that Erika's a bitch because she worships Shiho and wants to be like her, but doesn't really understand why she acts the way she does and overexaggerates it because she's still a teenager.
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>>34472771
same here. Say, have you read AnchovyWriter's Erika piece?
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Just a thought. Anchovy is pretty smart. Wouldn't she write the plans on paper, make copies, and post them inside the tankets so Pepperoni wouldn't forget? Since this is an escalation in enemy competence and all.

>Wait until they break cover.
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>>34472771
My head-canon is that Miho and Maho's Dad died and she died a little inside as a result. Shiho to got back into panzerfahen soon after. I haven't read any of the manga adaptations so I'm probably wrong.
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>>34472815
Knowing Pepperoni, she might actually just doodle on the paper or make it into a paper plane and toss it into the wind during downtime.

Anzio girls aren't the most motivated bunch, tankery-wise.
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>>34472884
But at least they know how to party.
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>>34472815
sounds like something a people-wangler like Anchovy would do. Final Decision rests with BJ, of course.
>>34472852
For Shiho, makes sense, the classing 'bury yourself in work' method of dealing with grief. In this case, work is being the head of the premier tanking family for all of Japan.
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>>34472895
If by party you mean eat all your pasta, then try and devour your flesh, then yes.
no I am never letting that go.
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>>34472934
Umm...what?
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>>34473000
its what happened when Anzio team tried to transfer read: stow aboard Oorai since they had the better tank team. they did not count on the food being 90% not pasta.
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>>34472934
Chill, man. You're taking the GuP SoL manga too seriously.
Momo's probably fine.

I still wish there's a Saunders exclusive chapter after all the pasta chapters though.
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>>34473000
Chapter 16 of More Rabu rabu!
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>>34473079
Its less me taking it literally, and more me making a reference joke as often as I can. And yes, Saunders is due for a chapter.
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We need a picture of Voldemort standing in front of his Death Eaters and saying, "BlackJack is dead!"

Or a gif.
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>>34473331
Or you could help shovel T34s into his mouth like the rest of us.
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Maybe we can try Panthers...?
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>>34473433
You get on that, I'll see if I can pull up a Tiger II.
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>>34473363
I suck at WoT. I'm better at War Thunder.

Also, due to computer issues, i am unable to access WoT at this current time.
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>>34473460
I have neither the time, money, or computer for either, so I get my fix on Youtube... which I can't use right now since the internet here freaks at the sight of a video file.
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>>34473363

Still my favorite thing to come out of this quest.
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If this is doesn't prove Erika has niceness and may respect us, I don't know what will.
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>>34473592
hng.
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>>34473579
But what about the Plushie TOG II?
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"Wait for it..." You say calmly over the radio- you scan the foliage intently, looking for hard lines or shadows; anything that shows something that isn't a tree or a bush. "Wait for visual contact..." You repeat, calmly moving the gunsight back and forth over the forest.

With a final grunt, the massive 105mm howitzer is loaded. "Up!" She calls. The nice thing about being the gunner and commander in a tank like this is that there isn't quite as much complication in the firing process- just "Up!" and "Firing!"

You watch and watch and then, finally, a shape crashes through the bushes, nearly pushing over a tree as it passes. Identify: Chars B2. "Target! Wait for it..." You say, watching the tank pushes out into the clearing, turret moving back and force like the head of a bird. A few seconds later a second target appears- A Somua S35 medium tank followed by a second Somua. "Got the B2- Tell Zero-Eight to take the first Somua, Zero-Seven to take the second." You relay to your gunner radio operator.

You move the crosshairs over the B2- "Firing." You pull the trigger and the big howitzer erupts in a great white cloud of flame and smoke. It takes a moment before it clears- in that time you hear the 75/18s guns cracking. As you stare through the smoke you see the Chars- it had taken the round in its rear half and the explosion of the 105mm shell had been powerful enough to lift the French heavy tank and shift its rear half about three meters right.

>Damage assessment.
>Reload and move out immediately.
>Other.
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>>34473894
>Reload and move out immediately.
FIRE AND MANEUVER!
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>>34473894
>Reload and move out immediately.
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>>34473894
Wait, what's the difference between the B-1 bus Oorai has and the B2 here?
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>>34473894
>Reload and move out immediately.
Avoid the firing arc of the hull gun, shoot it at another angle.
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>>34473894
>Reload and move out immediately.
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http://pastebin.com/Q60YHQLw
I'm sorry for being a horrible person
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>>34473894
>Get a wiggle on.
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>>34474133
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>>34473894
>Reload and move out immediately.

>>34474025
No hull gun.

>>34474133
DRAWFAGS!
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>>34474181
It was 3am the other night and I saw this
http://danbooru.donmai.us/pools/2398
Something possesed me

I am not proud of what I've done. Rina doesn't deserve this!
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>>34474292
nobody does Sentinel, Nobody does.
first Person to mention Erika gets a clubbin'!
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>>34474342
Erika.
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>>34474364
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>>34474391
You are still using those old things? Feels like I'm doing you a favour by breaking them with my head.
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>>34474418
ok, something more... modern.
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>>34474435
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>>34474466
yep. dem's da rules.
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"Reload- HE!" You call. "Driver forward- move out on them!" The small convoy of French tanks had crossed the clearing diagonally to you- your 105mm round hadn't knocked out the B2, but it had blown off the track and rear drive wheel, immobilizing it.

Meanwhile, the first Somua had been hit dead center and put out of commission- a small white flag flying from its turret- the second Somua had only taken a glancing blow and was moving to put the better-armored B2 between itself and your ambush. The tactic is a bit of a gray area- technically you're not allowed to use disabled tanks for cover, since the rules prohibit firing at a disabled tank, but the B2 is still in the game, just immobilized.

The Somua could hide back there and let the B2 absorb a disabling blow, which would be enough time for its 47mm gun to take two or three shots, then move away from it as soon as the tank is out. You'll let the judges figure whether its a violation after the match- for now you've got two active tanks in front of you.

>Knock out the B2 first- bigger target.
>Take out the Somua before it makes cover.
>Other.
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>>34475122
>Take out the Somua before it makes cover.
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>>34475122
>>Take out the Somua before it makes cover.
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>>34475122
>Knock out the B2 first- bigger target.

Finish up, let our compatriots deal with their targets. Threaten them with English cooking if they need motivation.
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>>34475122
>>Take out the Somua before it makes cover.
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It's only a rule violation if the B2 already popped a white flag, and we still keep shooting at it.

On the other hand, if we do KO the B2, we'll still have to contend with trying to shoot the Somua that'll take cover behind the tank hulk. Which would only put the possibility of us getting a rule violation in Maginot's favor.
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>>34475255
Hmm. Make sense.

>>34475122
>Take out the Somua before it makes cover.
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>>34475122
>Take out the Somua before it makes cover.
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You slew the gun to the right, but the moving Somua is just out of your traverse. "Bring us right!" You order, holding the gunner's sight to your head as the self-propelled gun turns. "Got it! Stop!" You call- your attention is focused on the little moving French medium tank but your driver knows what she's doing.

"Up!" The loader calls- While the three-girl crew is great for giving you as the commander a faster reaction time for the gun, the fact that you can either talk to your other tanks or load the gun is a liablity- the other two tanks know their role, but they're firing at the wrong target. They're firing at the B2, but its heavy armor shrugs off their rounds easily.

Meanwhile the Somua is racing to get in position- But not if you have anything to say about it! "Firing!" You say, as you pull the trigger. The heavy 105mm howitzer is overkill for the French medium- in all likelihood the smartshell pre-detonated to make sure the little thing wasn't obliterated or its crew injured by the concussion on the hull.

Either way- it's down now.

>Radio Anchovy- see where the rest of their tanks are.
>Finish the B2 yourself.
>Other.
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>>34476326
>Finish the B2 yourself.
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>>34476326
>>Radio Anchovy- see where the rest of their tanks are.
Also displace some more while we're at it
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>>34476326
>Finish the B2 yourself.

What is that part here >>34474031 anyway? Radiator?
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>>34476412
that's what it looks like, yeah
>>34476326
>Finish the B2 yourself.
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"One more HE!" You call, setting your loader into action. "Driver, left-pivot!" You call, slewing the 105mm gun to sweep across the B2's hull. You aim for the mid-section just behind the crew compartment- you still aren't sure just how much punch the HE rounds deliver, so its best if you avoid aiming for parts of the armor with girls behind them.

"Round up!" The loader yells before ducking back to the side of the gun and pulling the safety.

"Firing!" You warn, letting loose your third 105mm shell. The big gun is aimed straight at the B2 and the round flies true, impacting halfway down the B2's hull- the explosion again throwing the B2 off its tracks and onto its sides- a small white flag tops up from the hull. "Got 'em!" You say, leaning back from the scope.

You don't have much time to rest though- "Hina! Urgent call from Anchovy!" She says, turned back towards the radioset. "Head to position F-12 ASAP! Flag and the tankettes are under attack!"
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NEXT TIME ON GIRLS UND PANZER....

>Part three of the Anzio Chronicles.
>What is that thing?!
>P40 vs. the Ultimate in Pre-Invasion French Armored Firepower!

Girls und Panzer Quest will continue Saturday at 4-5PM PST!

Follow me on Twitter for schedule updates and to find out when the thread goes live!

https://twitter.com/BlackJackGuPQ
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>>34477022
Night beej.
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