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You and Odysseus turn to leave the temple, your Servant utterly silent for the first time in your interaction with him. This silence persists until you reach the bottom of the steps, at the edge of the temple's territory and the Barrier that surrounds the mountain.

"...Master, it is possible for us to make an alliance with that Caster. I don't think she was watching us directly, she may have just detected our presence and addressed us rather than viewing us through scrying, otherwise her reaction to us would have been different."

You look to your partner quizzically. That's a curious thing for Odysseus to say so suddenly. Has he been ruminating on that this entire time. "What makes you say that?" You ask, curious as to his reasoning.

"I recognize that voice. I know who she is. She would be a powerful ally, but if we let our guard down for even a second, she'd have no qualms with betraying us."

You freeze up for a moment. An existing relationship between two Servants can be a blessing or a curse, but will you make use of this?

On one hand, Odysseus knowing her could be the key to an alliance, and an alliance with the temple Caster could prove incredibly useful.

On the other hand, she doesn't currently know Odysseus is in the war, if he's right about her not actually seeing you. That means you can bait some other Masters into killing her before she finds out that Odysseus is here, and make his True Name being learned a nonfactor as she'll die without ever knowing Odysseus is Archer. That said, if you want to do so you'll have to be fast. You have no idea when she might decide to scry the city next and see Odysseus in the process, even if she doesn't know about him currently.

[] Go back up the stairs, have Odysseus speak to draw Caster out, and bring her into an alliance.
[] Leave the temple. If she'll recognize Odysseus on sight, she's too dangerous to ally with.
[] Ask Odysseus if he thinks he could kill her in a straight fight.
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Just a warning, I'll have to get going in a couple hours, but I'll be back to continue this part later today.

Pastebin for the people who missed the last part: http://pastebin.com/KNZmkvM3
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>>34645335
[] Go back up the stairs, have Odysseus speak to draw Caster out, and bring her into an alliance.
these fucking run times with no warning

get a fucking twitter
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>>34645335
[] Leave the temple. If she'll recognize Odysseus on sight, she's too dangerous to ally with.
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>>34645335
>[x] Ask Odysseus if he thinks he could kill her in a straight fight.

Just caught up, is OP kill?
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>>34645335
[] Leave the temple. If she'll recognize Odysseus on sight, she's too dangerous to ally with.
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>>34645335
>[x] Ask Odysseus if he thinks he could kill her in a straight fight.
If he can, we should try again. If he can't, better to just leave and try somebody else.
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>>34645335
>No warning of when each session is

I'm surprised I'm even here.

I'm going to bet most of the players here weren't even here for last session.

Lrn2playerretention
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>>34645335
[] Ask Odysseus if he thinks he could kill her in a straight fight.
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>>34646035
Nah, got a bit over an hour before I need to go.

>>34645953
>>34646160

Fair enough.

===

"If the two of you were to fight, as you are now, could you win?" You ask, looking up at your partner.

Odysseus grits his teeth slightly in thought. Even with his hubris, he responds with some hesitation.

"I can't be sure. I don't have sufficient Magic Resistance on my own to stop her, and I lack what I used to defeat her in life. It would be a fight with some chances. If I could fire off my Noble Phantasm I could likely kill her, but I don't know that I could activate it before getting killed. She can activate High Thaumaturgy as a Single Action, it's a monstrous ability."

[] "Then we shouldn't take the risk, let's leave."
[] "I have a plan. Let's fight, we can kill her."
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>>34646183
Not this bitch again

[x] "Then we shouldn't take the risk, let's leave."
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>>34646183
[] "I have a plan. Let's fight, we can kill her."
ask about her true name
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>>34646183
>[] "Then we shouldn't take the risk, let's leave."
She can seek US out next time for an alliance.
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>>34646183
>[] "I have a plan. Let's fight, we can kill her."
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>>34646183
[] "Then we shouldn't take the risk, let's leave."
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>>34646183
{X}Ask for her true name, then decide
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>>34646183
>Fair enough.

Than either specify run-times or get a twitter.
You're making this exceedingly hard to play regularly and making me want to drop it.

Well I need to go but heres my last vote.

>Ask true name

Than make decision after
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>>34646317
I'll make a twitter once I get back later today.

===

It's not worth the risk of losing your Servant on night one of the war, you tell Odysseus that you two will be leaving, and promptly do so.

On your way back to your base, cutting through Miyama, he tells you more about Caster.

"Her name is Circe, she's an incredibly high-level magus, and her speed in casting is impressive even by Age of Gods standards. She also has the ability to transform living things into beasts, that chimera was likely one of her creations, though I anticipate controlling them takes a passive exertion of prana. Seeing as she's taken up residence at a fallen leyline, she's dangerous to approach unprepared."

>True Name: Circe
>Class Skills: ???
>Parameters: ???
>Divinity: A
>High Speed Divine Words: A
>Noble Phantasm: ???

[] Head back to your base without delay.
[] Do some more reconnaissance on another area (specify where).
[] Try to get the Tohsakas and Matous to attack Caster, leave notes explaining her location and True Name or something.
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>>34646364
>approach matou
>"alliance"
Get him to attack circe or whatever.
Benefit of trojan horse too.
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>>34646364
ody is master of ruse right?
shinji should be relatively easy to abuse provided this is still the same war however since it may not be.
recon on matou first
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>>34646385
Second this.
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>>34646364
[x] Head back to your base without delay.
play safe
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>>34646385
>thinking its shinji
Were we ever told everything is same as canon?

Because I'm 99% sure that circe was not in the canon war.

I will agree to this only if we reconnaissance first.
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>>34646479
>Because I'm 99% sure that circe was not in the canon war
She wasn't, the Masters might still be the same though.
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>>34646364

[x] Head back to your base without delay.
[x] Do some more reconnaissance on another area [red mage and worm family faggot]
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>>34646385
Or we could just have Ody shapeshift into a mailman and give him a letter offering alliance. If he agrees, meet us at a cafe next day.
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>>34646385
this is good but do
>>34646415
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>>34646521
Oh, and have Ody in non-Servant form meet him. We aim all of our wraiths at Matousfrom a distance.
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Recon is the best option, and following that you can decide how to handle the two families who live in Miyama.

The Matou household is the first place you decide to go to, but how should you investigate it?

[] Go together with Odysseus, having him shapeshift into his non-Servant form.
[] Send Odysseus alone in his non-Servant form. (specify: spy or give letter) Do something else yourself.
[] Just go as you are now and try to speak to them.
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>>34646589
>[x] Send Odysseus alone in his non-Servant form. Letter.
>Send two wraiths with him
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>>34646589
[] Send Odysseus alone in his non-Servant form. (specify: give letter) Do something else yourself.

Also give "advice" in Circe's true name.
This way trojan is ready.
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>>34645335
>Strength: C / Endurance: D / Agility: B / Mana: D / Luck: C
Why are we so shit?
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>>34646624
this, but just tell them about HSDW and not Circe's name. They'll wonder how we got the true name so easily and suspect Ody knew her in life, and if they learn his name we're sunk.
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>>34646624
He has to accept it as a give, we can't just hand it over.
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>>34646589
This>>34646521 would be best done tomorrow.
Who ever heard of a a mailman coming at the middle of the night?

[X] Go together with Odysseus, having him shapeshift into his non-Servant form.

Pretend your car broke down and need direction to the nearest hotel/workshop/gas station. Ody as a father figure. We a tired child
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>>34646700
>wanting help from shitji
No fuck that, will just make later confrontations with him harder as he will rage that we tricked him earlier over something minor.
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>>34646364
>>34646700
Seconding this.
We can even use that opportunity to hand them over the letter with the information as gift in return for their "kindness".
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>not just having him approach her and ask if she's still DTF
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>>34646648
I vote we sac all stats into strength and mana for hougu sniping.
Hubris on top of that means we could possibly get a A+ damage snipe that hits 12 times.
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You unbind a pair of wraiths from your bullets, and have Odysseus shapeshift both his appearance and his composition for the sake of discretion, before sending him to the Matou household with a letter.

"To the Zouken Family,

I have information regarding the Servant Caster who has taken up residence on the Ryuudouji Temple. If you wish to learn of this Servant and potentially seek out an alliance, meet me at the cafe on 37th street at noon tomorrow."

Odysseus leaves to put the letter on the Matou doorstep, returning to you once it is done.

"I didn't sense a Servant's presence this time." He reports, "But there's certainly a large storage of prana there, whoever's workshop it is has been a magus for quite some time."

Well, with that done, what to do now?

[] Head back to your base and make traps and bind wraiths until it's time for your meeting.
[] Leave a note with the Tohsakas as well. (detail the note)
[] Head over to the church to check-in with the overseer. It's only polite.
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>>34646805
>[x] Head over to the church to check-in with the overseer. It's only polite.
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>>34646805
[] Leave a note with the Tohsakas as well. (detail the note)
The matou will be at a cafe on 37th street during noon tomorrow.
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>>34646805
>ask the ruse master for advice
he is famous for his trickery, deceit and arrogance after all.
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>>34646789
We can get A rank STR and C rank MAN at the cost of lowering everything else to E. I'd say keep MAN where it is but up STR, and don't nerf AGI too hard.

Actually, can QM tell us how prana-consumptive our NPs are?

Oh also
>[x] Head over to the church to check-in with the overseer. It's only polite.
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>>34646805
>[x] Head over to the church to check-in with the overseer. It's only polite
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>>34646805
This>>34646822 and then this>>34646823
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>>34646843
this is fine by me as well.
only issue I see is just how much mana our np uses which you already covered in your post.
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>>34646843
Don't nerf ourselves yet, we should keep our stats as they are for now, they're pretty average.
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>>34646805
do dis first
>>34646840
than dis if ody says he thinks it will work or whatever
>>34646823
than dis
>>34646822
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All this
>>34646822
Meanwhile>>34646840
Then>>34646823
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>>34646843
Works for me, Dawn needs to answer about mana consumption and how fast our shapeshift is though.

If shapeshift relatively fast, we can always change our stats right before we use our NP.
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>>34646843
This would get my vote too if not for the fact that E rank luck has been shown to be literally lethal in every previous war
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>>34646823
>>34646840
all this trickery, at least we know why we summoned Odysseus now.
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>>34646843
if we do dis than we really need a close range support
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>>34646843
Toxo Ithakis is hilariously low-cost, it'd have a prana cost below Gae Bolg. I'd say with D rank MAN you could use it 6 times before fading.

Trojan Horse is much more consuming, but even then it's not at the level of something like Bellerophon despite being of the same rank. Using it would consume a little over half your total prana, so you wouldn't be able to use it twice without resting a bit in between.

>>34646926
Your stat shapeshifting takes a Single Action, regardless of how many stats you change around. Remember though, it's irreversible once you've done it.

===

You elect to head to the church to check in with the Overseer, as is customary. On the way there you ask Odysseus for his own advice.

"For the time being, if we won't be allying with Caster we should set up one of the two families to attack her while making a backdoor alliance with the other. When one of us turns on the other, we can activate my Noble Phantasm to disable their defenses. We should try to eliminate Caster first though, as if she learns I am here and proliferates that information, it'll render Trojan Horse useless, so sending one of those families to do so is the best bet. The other we shall act as if they are our 'real ally' and the one we are sending to fight is a 'dog' we are using for our own gain."

Before long you have reached the church. You step inside with your partner and look around, only to be faced with a priest who gives off the aura of anything but.

The Overseer, Kotomine Kirei.

"Child, I welcome you to this neutral ground of the Church, and give you kudos for being the second individual to come verify your standing. It seems no others care to do so." He remarks.

[] Thank him and leave.
[] Ask about the other pairs. Who's the one that checked in.
[] "What can you tell me about this war?"
[] "Yo, if I like, make Caster dead, can you gimme an extra Command Seal?"
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>>34646843
I would prefer doing this after we have another Servant who can shield us. E Rank Luck and Defense is terrible.
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>>34647038
>[x] Thank him and leave.
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>>34647038
>that language
Learn to write female, I know you suck balls at writing our MC but fucking stop with the "yo" prompts.

If we're going to play a female loli than act like it.

[x] "What can you tell me about this war?"
"So... how about an alliance?"
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>>34647070
>taking the joke choices seriously

[x] Thank him and leave
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>>34647070
A shortstack you mean.
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>>34647038
"I understand that the church takes no sides but just look at how the other masters are treating the church... they don't even bother to acknowledge the 'judge'. What say you to an alliance between ourselves... I promise it'll be fun~"
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>>34647038
>Kill him
at least that way the war will be interesting
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>>34647070
>>34647129
Could you be any less subtle ?

>>34647038
>Thank him and leave
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>>34647151
Second
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>>34647038
>[X] "What can you tell me about this war?"
>Then, [X] Ask about the other pairs. Who's the one that checked in when we are about to leave. Thank him.

>-However, if the enemy knows of Archer’s identity prior to the Noble Phantasm’s activation, the effect will fail without exception. Learning of Archer’s identity after the Noble Phantasm has been used upon them though will not affect the defense negation.

Would this mean our Trojan wouldn't work for anyone or just for the one who knows Ody's identity?
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>>34647151
I'll actually agree with this since we can get a whole bunch of command spells if we manage to kill him by taking his arm.

That and the fact that his ghost will be useful

It'll also be more fun with the whole church coming to rape us
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>>34647151
Oh my god yes this.
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>>34647151
Second
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>>34647151
Fuck yes, do this.
Kirei a worst girl
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>>34647151
Have Odysseus shapeshift into him after the deed is done.
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>>34647151
Stop you samef-
>within one minute of each other
Are you guys fucking serious, this is actually getting votes?
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>>34647259
>>34647188
This is by far our best plan so far.

We're playing a lot smarter than last time around which was just
>Muh alliances
>Muh save-scumming
all day long.
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>>34647259
Same anon here. This is only if we decided to kill him and survives to do it.
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>>34647151
What the fuck, no. Why.
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>>34647283
QM specifically said that kirei is not as strong as a decent servant beforehand.

Only way he will stand even a mite's chance is if Gil gets of his lazy ass which I doubt.
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>>34647260
You can easily samefag within one minute.
Or have two idiots samefag the same thing.

If it wins, it might actually be interesting though. So I don't even mind that much.
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>>34647038
>yfw we scared of Dawn with our derailing
Everyone here is so based.
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>>34647050
END isn't defense, just so you know. It's actually CON, so HP. Defense is done by AC, the "Endurance being defense" thing was a mistranslation by Mirror Moon.

>>34647178
Just whoever knows his identity. If Caster knows but Lancer doesn't, you can still use it on Lancer.

===

You give the order, because why the fuck not?

Odysseus materializes beside you, and moves to take Kotomine's head off at your order, it is a blow he as a human cannot hope to respond to-

Only for the priest to move out of the way just in time to avoid the blow, evading it by a hair's breadth and getting blown back slightly by the shockwave made by the punch.

Clicking his tongue slightly, the priest scowls at you. It is then that you see a red cross inscribed upon his frock, prana now leaking out of it. A form of reinforcement?

Odysseus deactivates his shapeshifting, going back to his fully Servant form to ensure that the priest won't dodge the next blow, but in the instant it takes him to do so-

"Lancer, by order of this Command Seal, protect me."

Odysseus darts forward to kill the priest, but the Command Seal activates just in time, and a figure appears between him and Kotomine.

>Class: Lancer
>Parameters: STR: B / END: B / AGI: A / MAN: D / LCK: D

Odysseus leaps back to put distance between him and the new Servant, grabbing you in the process.

What will you do?

[] Fight Lancer (Specify how)
[] Retreat, now isn't the time.
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>>34647278
Or we are pretty done playing the good guy. Time for us to be as devious and manipulative as possible.
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>>34647325
Agreed, it sounds really fun which is why I voted for it at least.

Everyone else might be a same-fag though, can't be sure.
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>>34647335
Nah, I just needed to find where I put the Lancer Servant sheet, sorry. I had it in a different document than the others, I don't know why.

Also I've got to get going in a bit, so I probably won't get to make the next post until I'm back, which will be in 2-4 hours.
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>>34647339
>laugh at him and ask if he' having FUN. Than tell him that he acted just as expected following with and that it was all part of your plan to see if he's a master.
Follow by asking for an alliance or we would tell his secret to everyone.
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>>34647339
>Priest moving out of the way
>Of fucking B rank agility
Nope, you can't fucking justify that one fucking bit
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>>34647339
>[] Fight Lancer (Specify how)
>Toxo Ithakis on the priest
It either hits him, or Lancer needs to block it with his body.
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>>34647339
Well gee, who the fuck could have seen this coming? Not the people who wanted to kill him, certainly.
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>>34647339
>dodging our servant
Wait what the actual fuck?
No amount of command spell spamming by Kirei could save him.
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>>34647339
Use to Ithakis to target the master while feigning to use it to attack the servant, that way we can gain lancer as our servant.
He was serving Kotomine not out of choice anyway
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>>34647382
top kek.
this will get my vote, we're playing as a trickster and devious short stack anyhow
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>>34647385
E rank. He entered his non-Servant form, remember? And you guys never had him leave it.

Also:

>It is then that you see a red cross inscribed upon his frock, prana now leaking out of it. A form of reinforcement?

I'll spoil you in saying this wasn't done by Kotomine. Guess who did it?

>>34647411
He got reinforced by his Servant beforehand and your Servant was in his non-Servant form. If Ody was in top condition he'd be dead, but he wasn't.
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>>34647339
Retreat, then fire our homing arrow. Set it to miss Lancer and pierce Kirei's heart. Add some things in between.
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>>34647339
>Kirei dodging
Uhhhhh r-right

First
>>34647382
Than
>>34647391
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>>34647339
>Let Odysseus use Toxo Ithakis first 4 shots on Lancers arms and legs as feint, and the other 8 on the priest, while we shoot him with a wraith loaded bullet.
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>>34647441
>And you guys never had him leave it.
That's fucking bullshit and you know it
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>>34647441
>E rank. He entered his non-Servant form, remember? And you guys never had him leave it.
This right here is why I tried to tell you guys this was a bad idea. I knew everyone would forget that part.
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>>34647441
>trying to justify
just stop, we understand a railroad when its there and we're not going to complain.
saying anything just makes it worse.
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>>34647482
No it's not. Dawn specificaly said it wasn't a automatic action, we has to tell him to do it.
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>>34647441
>He got reinforced by his Servant beforehand
Literally no hints of this bullshit in previous text.

Should've just let us get the kill because another shit-storm begins.
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>>34647441
>thought it will be different this time around
and dropped again, best of luck to the rest of you
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>>34647514
>>34647488
Its actually legit, since shapeshifting was said to take a turn to return from. That being said, no one fucking remembered that because we don't have his stats at hand.
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It's hilarious how our servant managed to get instantly killed TWO times in the last quest, and we never managed to even put a scratch on another servant while we were alive, and now we're in a new world, we still can't instant kill anyone again!
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>>34647441
Dropped like hot-cakes
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>>34647339
Definitely this.>>34647382
Apologise. Say you got tipped by an anon and wanted to check the truth.

Any descriptions on the Lancer?
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Since there's a general consensus I'll try and be quick about this, last post before I go.

Also wow, you guys are just assuming shit all over the place. If you come up with a plan that works then it works. For instance killing fucking Kirei.

===

You smirk. "As I suspected, you're a Master. If you don't want this secret out, you should consider allying with me."

Kotomine looks at you impassively. "...Lancer, kill them." He orders.

As he speaks Odysseus pulls both you and him back, darting out of the church in an apparent retreat-

-But that is only how it appears.

"Toxo Ithakis." Odysseus murmurs under his breath in the instant before you hit the ground outside the church, readying his bow.

The arrow is released, and from a distance of "50" the target is designated.

Four feints, and an attack on Kotomine Kirei.

The arrow darts forward as prana is imbued into it, cutting through the air and entering the church the same way as you exited.

Lancer's strength is B rank, he cannot hope to destroy your Noble Phantasm in time, and the target has been designated so it is already decided.

The arrow pierces the fake priest eight times. Brain, heart, liver, kidneys, neck, lungs, his vitals are shredded by the force of the blow.

-And the fake priest is killed without ever knowing what had killed him.

[] Leave now, Lancer will dissipate of his own accord within minutes.
[] Attempt to contract Lancer before he fades.
[] Score some of those Command Seals.
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See, I saw that part of the Shapeshifting description and I knew, I fucking knew, that nobody would remember it when we actually tried to use it to kill something. And here we fucking are.
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>>34647579
"Lancer, your master was the ruler of this holy grail war, your testimony will have to be used to show the church that something went wrong, may I assume you will accept this offer?"
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>>34647579
>[x] Attempt to contract Lancer before he fades.
>[x] Score some of those Command Seals.
First Lancer then Seals.
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>>34647579
Actually only three (or was it 4) anons dropped it, the rest of us saw is as a railroad but didn't really mind that much.

[] Attempt to contract Lancer before he fades.
[] Score some of those Command Seals.
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Well, at least that was fun. Anyway, thanks for running this, Mr. Dawn
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>>34647579
>[x] Attempt to contract Lancer before he fades.
>[x] Score some of those Command Seals.
Get those Command Seals first, we can talk to Lancer off-hand and there are more Servants in this war, and Command Seals are harder to come by.
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>>34647579
>Kirei still died
okay I'm calmer now, apologies

[] Attempt to contract Lancer before he fades.
[] Score some of those Command Seals.
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>>34647579
>first night of war
>already killed faggit kirei, have possibility of getting additional command seals, possibility of getting lancer and even know caster's true name
>havn't even needed to save-scum

this is going well, too bad missed it due to timezones.

[] Attempt to contract Lancer before he fades.
[] Score some of those Command Seals.
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Question, can we use command seals to boost Archer's stats considering the shapeshifting?
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>>34647579
Just finished catching up, surprised we're playing so IC.

Expected everyone to be a sperglord making alliances everywhere again.
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>>34647810
Command seals only give ore prana though...
I mean take rider for example, triple command spells given only gave more mana.
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> It is then that you see a red cross inscribed upon his frock, prana now leaking out of it. A form of reinforcement?

Guys, how fun would it be to be killed while harvesting the command seals and attempting to contract Lancer.

>[x] Leave now, Lancer will dissipate of his own accord within minutes.
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>>34648055
>not attempting it and failing before save-scumming

He's already gone, give up.
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I don't think we can stand the burden of two servants. That'd probably bring us to our knees from energy drain.
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>>34648418
We're a fucking homunculus, we'll be fine.
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>>34648463

But what kind of homunculus? Just that doesn't mean we're Illya-tier crafted-to-be-a-Master type perfect for the war puppets.
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Gil will miss Kirei
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>>34648697
As long as he doesn't try to rape us, we'll be fine.
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Twitter up @BurialAgent6

>>34647810
No. You can use one to quell Hubris though, but it'll only last for the battle its used in so that's inadvisable unless you get a lot more.

>>34648512
You're not near Ilya's level. That said, homunculi do have much better aptitude for this than humans, you'll see.

Also, it might not have mattered this time, but hopefully this will help remind you guys that you need to keep an eye on Odysseus's status with regard to Servant v non-Servant form.

===

You smirk, Odysseus's Noble Phantasm had performed peerlessly, and now the Overseer of the war was dead. It was time to claim the spoils of war.

Upon entering the church, you find Lancer looking impassive. As Kotomine hadn't used a Command Seal when ordering Lancer to kill you, the "enemy" Servant had simply stayed in place, allowing you to retreat.

"I thank you for releasing me from that man's thrall." He states elegantly, remaining calm even as he feels himself start to fade.

You look to Lancer as you voice your own reply. "Lancer, your master was the ruler of this holy grail war, your testimony will have to be used to show the church that something went wrong, may I assume you will accept this offer?"

Lancer looks to you with a sort of bemusement. "Oh?" He echoes, a slight grin crossing his expression.

And in the next moment, an oath is made.

"Obey me! Then I shall entrust my fate to your might!"

"I will accept your oath under the name of Lancer! I shall accept you as my Master!"

In a flash of light, the contract is made, and you have become the new Master of Lancer.

-In the next moment, you stagger backwards, dizziness overtaking you.

For an average magus, supporting two Servants would leave both weakened and the magus bedridden. For you however, a being of a different class of Magic Circuits than mere humans, you are essentially able to pick between one or the other.

While you are active, Odysseus and Lancer will both have all parameters reduced by one rank.

(cont)
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>>34650175
This is especially problematic for Odysseus, as it makes the use of Trojan Horse take up just shy of all of his prana. If he isn't at top condition when using it, he's likely to fade.

If however you make yourself bedridden, utterly inactive and barely sustaining your life functions, both Servants will act at full capacity.

However, regardless of which option you take, so long as you have two Servants contracted to you, and given your status as a homunculus, entering a Bounded Field which is not your own and which you are not greenlisted to use the mana in will necessarily kill you, as you will only have access to your own od, which is near-zero as per homunculus standards, and will immediately die from the strain of supporting two Servants.

[You are currently active, so Odysseus and Lancer are suffering a rank-down to all parameters.]

Lancer kneels down in deference once you have stabilized yourself. "I thank you for what you have done. In return, I, Flavius Valerius Aurelius Constantinus Augustus, pledge my lance to your cause."

If only he knew what he was getting himself into.

>True Name: Constantine the Great
>Magic Resistance: B
>Revelation: -
>Saint: - (Automatic HP recovery)
>Enchant: C Plus. Endowing of properties, not unlike "Alteration magecraft on steroids". Able to add powerful functions to other's important items. Basically an ability which strengths the Master's fighting abilities. Accomplished through the inscription of a cross upon an item.

(Noble Phantasm and choice in next post)
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>>34650326
>Name: Lance of Longinus
>Title: Holy Spear of Crucifixion
>Rank: A
>NP Type: Anti-Unit / Anti-Vampire / Anti-Divine
>Range: 2-4
>Maximum Number of Targets: 1
>Description: A lance of legend in the Christian faith. As a Noble Phantasm, it functions as a Holy Scripture far beyond that of those possessed by the Church. Carries the Refraction of Longetivity. Carries an immense affinity against spiritual beings, though its compatibility with killing Servants is low compared to killing existences such as vampires. Against vampiric existences, it can be considered a weapon compared to which True Apocrypha and the Seventh Holy Scripture are nothing, a certain kill.

>Against Servants, if they have an aptitude in Divinity, the power of the lance is magnified though to a lesser level than against vampires. For every numerical value of "10" the enemy has in Divinity, the power of the lance's strike is increased by 20. Thus, against an enemy with A Rank Divinity (50), the power of each strike of the lance is equal to the user's STR plus 100. This applies to the Divine Enemy in question or anything used by them, such as spells or projectiles, but not against minions of the enemy such as familiars.

As you take in the information about your new Servant, you kneel down to extract the Command Seals from the fallen Overseer, only to realize something.

You don't know Spiritual Surgery, as you aren't a Spiritual Surgeon. It is neither General Magecraft nor a part of Necromancy and Spiritual Evocation, it is its own class of magecraft.

The other method of obtaining the Command Seals would be to, while touching Kotomine's corpse, recite the incantation he programmed in prior to his death to have them transferred to you, but you don't know that incantation.

And just as you're thinking this...

"What's all the noise out there about?"

A new voice cuts through the church, as a red-eyes, golden-haired man dressed in modern clothing steps out from the back of the church.
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>>34650326
That's.... quite the drawback, are you guys sure you want this?
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>>34650584
Oh Gilgamesh, you're going to get raped if you decide to fight against mister lance of longinus here.
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>>34650654
>gil not having a perfect asspull counter
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>>34650624

Two servants working together is a powerful combo even if they're both mid-rank.
... unfortunately that doesn't apply against Gilgamesh, who is unto an army on his own.
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>>34650584
Do we write in now, or uh...?

>>34650746
King of carelessness
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>>34650624
Two servants with rank down is still better than 1.
Plus we can always stay bed-ridden
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>>34650654
I'm only going to warn you about it this once, getting overconfident against Gil is a bad move. Especially post-CCC. He's beatable because of his abysmal personality, but he's still Gil.

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>>34650584
The newcomer steps out, looking down at the corpse of the priest before loosing a slight laugh.

"Well Kirei, that doesn't seem to have gone according to plan." He remarks, before turning to you and Archer.

-And for the briefest moment you feel it, you feel him looking through you, you feel an overbearing gaze that vanished as quickly as it had appeared.

"...hm, a woman and mongrel running amok in my garden. Leave, while I'm willing to allow you to."

>Gilgamesh parameters gained, same as with Kirei as a Master

[] Heed this Servant's advice and leave. Grab Kotomine's corpse on your way out.
[] Ask who he thinks he is to order you around.
[] Kill him.
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>>34650584
"Ah, from your aura and tone, I can tell that you are Kotomine's trump card."
"Although, considering your attitude, it seems you obey no one but yourself, a worthy attribute, especially one for a King."
"For what has happened, I have killed Kotomine Kirei, he was in the way of my victory."
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>>34650845

[x] Heed this Servant's advice and leave. Grab Kotomine's corpse on your way out.
also, piss panties
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>>34650845
[X] Heed this Servant's advice and leave. Grab Kotomine's corpse on your way out. (Just chop off the arm and go!)
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>>34650845
Fuck, run the fuck away.

Take the damn arm and leave, this is turning hella interesting.

We've got gil running amok, two servants of our own and the church possibly after us if they don't accept our explanation
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>>34650845
(I assume that we know his name.)
"As you command, King of Kings, may I inquire as to if we may take Kirei's body?"
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>>34650845
>[] Heed this Servant's advice and leave. Grab Kotomine's corpse on your way out.
RUN!
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>>34650845
>be scared as shit
>run away
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>>34650845
>We killed Kirei on thread 2 (assuming its 2)
holy shit, what the shit did you guys do?

>[xxxxxxx] Heed this Servant's advice and leave. Grab Kotomine's corpse on your way out.
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>>34650939
>King of Kings
That's Ramesses. Or Jesus.
King of Heroes is much more terrifying. While some heroes are kings, not all kings are close to being heroes.
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>>34650845
A lot of L+M, we can actually enter other bounded field, it will simply cost us a command spell each time.

Also the servants can also be temporarily full powered (at least prana and stat wise) due to command spells however that would take 2 each time so not really worth it till we take worst grill's shit.
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>>34650939
You don't, you've just got his parameters. No skills, NP, or name.

===

You need to leave.

You need to leave or you will die here.

Whatever this thing is, however it has come to be, it is not something you can match. It is to you what a natural disaster is to a human. A dragon come to devour the village. The fear of a monster. The fear of a god.

So what else could you do but obey?

"Take Kirei's body with you on the way out, I won't stain my treasures cleaning his mess."

Odysseus moves to oblige, even his own arrogance frozen in the face of this man who believes everything under the seven heavens to be his. He grabs Kotomine's corpse without a word, and you, he, and Lancer exit the church as quickly as you can, not bothering to look back at what the Golden Servant is doing.

You run, you run back to your base, not stopping for a moment. Only once you have reached there do you allow yourself to feel safe.

The sun is starting to peer over the horizon, it is now the early hours of the morning.

[] "Lancer, who was that?"
[] Welcome Lancer to the team.
[] Put away Kotomine's body before it starts stinking up the place.
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>>34651101
Oh yeah, you're free to use CSs to take the strain of supporting them off yourself for a bit, that's a perfectly valid use.
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>>34651103
[] Welcome Lancer to the team.
Umm didn't we just take the arm?

Anyhow welcome followed by
[] "Lancer, who was that?"

followed by

>Discuss strategies of how lancer and archer will work together. Do not reveal ody's identity

Also, do we have any magus contacts?
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>>34651103
>[] Welcome Lancer to the team.
>[] Put away Kotomine's body before it starts stinking up the place.
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>>34651160
The general feel was more like "run out of there shit scared" so Ody just grabbed the whole body and bolted, also since Gil said to take it so he wouldn't need to clean up. Feel free to tear off the arm and throw the body in the river or something.
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>>34651103

[X] put away the body, maybe prepare it for binding if his spirit is still hanging around
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>>34651103
>[] "Lancer, who was that?"
>[] Put away Kotomine's body before it starts stinking up the place.
We should set him aside and make him into a wraith.
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>>34651103
>[X] Welcome Lancer to the team.
>[X] "Lancer, who was that?"
>[X] Put away Kotomine's body before it starts stinking up the place.
Yeah all of the above are good.
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>>34651103
We need those fucking command spells or we're an invalid.

Use the yellow pages for magus and hire a spirit doctor or something.

Also, if we have any funds, use it and hire a fucking mercenary or something since the church overseer is out of the game.
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>>34651214
>>34651160
We need to contact the church to inform them, otherwise we'll have executors on our tail
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>>34651247

We're the heretic here.
The church does not react that quickly in japan unless they're called (or another agent is present or something).
Just let it be.
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>>34651103
After doing all the actions, discuss how we're going to fight now, hire a fucking spiritual surgeon and most importantly, CONTACT THE FUCKING CHURCH BEFORE EXECUTIONERS THAT ARE CIEL LEVEL COMES AND RAPES US ENMASSE.
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>>34651103
>all these guys scared about the church when we have two servants
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>>34651270
Do you want us to be raped by Executors after the HGW is done?
Then again, they'll find Gilgamesh in the church
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>>34651364

If it's anything like Fate/Stay Night, once the HGW is done we're either dead or the havoc generated will be so great that the church won't care about one podunk dead agent.
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You bid Lancer a quick welcome to the team as you check Kotomine's body. You try to detect if his spirit is still present such that you can bind him as a wraith, however...

To a void human such as Kotomine, a hollow shell who could not understand beauty, love, or true hatred, the sheer emotional power needed to linger on as a wraith was simply not present. Kotomine has already passed on.

You have Odysseus remove the arm containing Command Seals from the priest's body, and then go to dispose of the body accordingly. While this occurs, you ask Lancer about the golden Servant.

"...Archer." He mutters under his breath. "A Servant from the previous war, his True Name is Gilgamesh, the King of Heroes and the strongest Servant."

Constantine goes on to explain what he had picked up while being Kotomine's Servant, only learning of Gilgamesh's abilities but never truly seeing them in action. Still though, perhaps this is for the best. Seeing them would likely be a precursor to dying from them.

>All information on Gilgamesh's profile is now known, except for "Enuma Elish".

With that done, you move to the matter of obtaining Kotomine's Command Seals, and contacting the Church to inform them of the Overseer's demise. You can likely contact the Association to request that a Spiritual Surgeon be sent here, but it will take a day or two before they arrive if so. As the heretic you are, you use a cell phone to call in to the Mage's Association, and after being navigated through the equivalent of a Verizon Customer Service call, you manage to arrange for a Spiritual Surgeon to arrive in Fuyuki the day after tomorrow. They will be at the harbor in the morning.

(cont)
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>>34651489


As for the Church, they prove to be slightly more difficult to contact due to your lack of knowledge on their customs, but ultimately you manage to reach them and inform them of the Overseer's corruption and death. It also seems that they're more receptive to using technology than the Mage's Association, as once you established contact the communication was relatively smooth. Once you inform them of such, they are skeptical but it seems that Kotomine's participation in the previous Grail War had not made him viewed positively by the higher-ups of the Church, and so your story was accepted.

However, they also request to know what occurred to his body, seeing as they will be sending a new Overseer in his place shortly, and wish to transfer the leftover Command Seals from her to him.

[] Say Kotomine's body was completely destroyed.
[] Say you have the seals with you and will hand them over.
[] One of the two above, but also mention that a Servant has taken up residence in the Church, and going there is inadvisable.
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>>34651489
>As the heretic you are, you use a cell phone to call in to the Mage's Association
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>>34651551
>[] One of the two above, but also mention that a Servant has taken up residence in the Church, and going there is inadvisable.
>Write in
Say that the command seals from lancer are forfeit to us, but the Church's seals will be transferred to them.
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>>34651551

[x] Say Kotomine's body was completely destroyed. Mention Gilgamesh.


Tell them we used our servants np and that the body was completely destroyed as a result
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>>34651612
Second
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>>34651551
>[] Say Kotomine's body was completely destroyed
>[] a Servant has taken up residence in the Church, and going there is inadvisable.
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>>34651612
>giving up so many command spells
veto
>>34651551
How many command spells does kirei have?
Also
[] Say Kotomine's body was completely destroyed.
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>>34651652
Gaining another 3 command spells is good enough, we don't need more.

>>34651612
Seconding this if possible.
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>>34651551
>[] Say Kotomine's body was completely destroyed.

We're already IC a devious bitch so might as well play it fully.
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>>34651612
Just so you know, Kotomine did use up one of those so you'll only get two if this one wins.

He's got the ones from Lancer, so two, plus the sleeve from the fourth war. The number of those isn't given, but they're the leftovers from the prior three wars, so I'd say in the neighborhood of 15-20, given how many he has at the end of HF and whatnot.

If knowing any of the above influences your decision, say so.
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>>34651722
>15-20
>>34651551

[] Say Kotomine's body was completely destroyed.
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>>34651722
Two is honestly good enough, five command seals will easily win us the war. Having the Church declare us to be cheating, will however get every single servant to rape us.
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>>34651757
2 vs 4

Not that hard since we have way more command spells.
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>>34651722
Just go with >>34651612 as >>34651757 has a point. Even with 25 command spells we'd get fucked against all of the servants.
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>>34651722
Still think we should just say that the body was completely destroyed.
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>>34651782
Illya's Berserker, Saber, Caster and Assassin.
That's easily enough to get us raped up the ass heavily, especially with our Prana situation
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>>34651814
>because command seals aren't prana or anything
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>>34651722
Go with >>34651612
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>>34651841
So we have to spend 3 to keep us running, then if Lancer and Archer both fight at once, that leaves us undefended against assassin, meaning we'd have to use a command seal to save ourselves.....and it goes on.
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>>34651722
we are honestly the most overpowered right now however we are in serious need of mana which you said could be gained from command spells
don't really see a reason to give them up even if we do have a chance of getting found out since we need them as mana suppliers
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>>34651612
Go with this
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>>34651551
>all this samefagging
We only had like 6-7 players so this is without a doubt bullshit.
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>>34651551
>>34651612
>Seconding this.
We win nothing from pissing of the church.
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>>34651935
Counted, on average 5 to 6, 7 tops.
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>>34651935

Quest threads can grow larger as they go on, y'know.
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7v5 from what I can tell, also samefagging so this won't get any better. Calling a stop to the voting, keeping Lancer's CSs and giving the rest back wins apparently.
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>>34652018
If we don't get some hella respect from the church I'm going to be quite mad.
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>>34652018
How does the church even know how many CS there are any way?
Can't we just take a majority and than give some back to the church as a show of faith?
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>>34652007
>because people totally just go
>>34651848
>>34651908
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>>34652172
happens more often than you'd think
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>>34652231
>In exact same formatting and ignoring everything else but that post
Either way, don't really mind.
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You reply that the Command Seals possessed with regards to Kotomine's partnership with Lancer will be kept by you, however all leftover Command Seals will happily be returned to the Church.

You also mention the existence of the King of Heroes who has taken up residence at the Church, a prospect that seems to worry the Church for understandable reasons. Even the best among them, above the class of those such as Ciel, can only fight an average Servant, fighting a "monster" such as Gilgamesh is something beyond them.

You're put on hold for some time while the Church discusses the matter, and when they reconvene with you they have apparently decided to relinquish their status as Overseer for the remainder of this war, in light of the circumstances. In return for your cooperation, they are also permitting you to take an extra two Command Seals from Kotomine's body providing you send the rest back to them; they will have a boat at the harbor this evening with a Spiritual Surgeon to transfer the seals before taking the arm back to the Church for safekeeping until the Sixth Grail War. The envoy from the church will also be delivering you a "stylishly decorated cross" as a show of goodwill.

At least this way you don't need to wait for the person from the Association, which is a blessing, and gaining four Command Seals in total is certainly useful. Once the call with the Church ends, you contact the Association again and cancel your appointment with the Spiritual Surgeon.

By the time you wrap up with everything, it's around noon.

[] Become bedridden and set one of your Servants to guard you, while the other either does prep-time things or goes out to scout.
[] Head out for recon on the town.
[] Don't you have something you're supposed to be doing right now?
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>>34652293
[] Don't you have something you're supposed to be doing right now?
yea yea, go meet zouken.
We're going to get raped by the trap but whatever.
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>>34652293
>[] Don't you have something you're supposed to be doing right now?

We have a meeting.
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>>34652293
>[x] Don't you have something you're supposed to be doing right now?
>Let's see if th Matou master hows up, send Odysseus in disguise to the meeting.
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>>34652293
>Send servant archer to meet shinji along with a few wraiths
>DO NOT FUCKING REVEAL OURSELVES OR FUCKING LANCER
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>>34652293
>[] Don't you have something you're supposed to be doing right now?
Have Ody feign as the master, while we lay comatose in bed.
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>>34652293
[] Don't you have something you're supposed to be doing right now?

Let's go to the meeting. Bring Constantine and Ody, but have Ody go non-Servant form and be in the background so we just act like Constantine's our only Servant, but we have Ody in case things go south.
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>>34652406
This sounds like a good idea, not having us as the master seems like the great idea.
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>>34652293
>Send Ody meanwhile
>Hire some mercs since the church is out of this war
We need some mundane protectors since we can't rely on lancer for everything due to prana
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>>34652293
>>34652374
>[] Don't you have something you're supposed to be doing right now?
we have a meeting
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>>34652293
Yo QM, I couldn't help but notice that you are running into some common new QM problems.

Just a few suggestions: Use Twitter (and QTG maybe) to announce that you are running at least 8 hours in advance. You are going to get very little player retention if you don't do regular announcements. Also try to announce time of next thread by end of current thread.

Players shouldn't have to know anything about the Fate universe and its canon outside of what you provide them to make good decisions. Best not to invite meta to the thread.

Remember that players in collective game need heavy reminders of any foreshadowing or hints. If you told them of something pertinent last thread, it's best to bring it up again either directly or indirectly right before that decision is made. That can be in the form of player monologue or NPC reminder.

Otherwise, I can guarantee that players will miss 90% of foreshadowing/hints. That's just the nature of quests in general.
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>>34652450
Oh shit, overseer gone means this war is going to get bloody out of control isn't it?

Welp.
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>>34652501
>being this much of a latefag and mentioning what I and a few other anons already mentioned
welcome~
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>>34652506
With the overseer gone, we could probably hire a few magi to get fucked by our servants for mana supplies.
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>>34652538

It's hard not to be a latefag when the QM didn't have a Twitter until today.
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>>34652450
>Trusting mercenaries

Are you trying to get another Kiristgu-Einsbern situation?

I agree that we need to contact our magus friends and get some guards + shit since the overseer is now gone.
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>>34652566
Oh god, this sounds like a great idea.

What would happen if we were gangbanged by our servants?
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>>34652600
We'd run out of prana and die
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Fuck. You're supposed to be at a cafe right now.

You have to get going quickly or you might completely miss your meeting. You give Odysseus the order to shapeshift into a different form as well as his non-Servant self, and pose as the Master, while you will rest so that he and Constantine hit peak condition.

Odysseus departs while you fall back on the bed. What should you do now?

[] Call up some mercenaries (specify, magical or mundane). No overseers, no parents, no rules.
[] Call in other magi as backup for you.
[] It's too risky to call in unrelated people. If the Church catches wind of this, or they're too obvious and the Association notices a risk to the secrecy of Magecraft, you're in the shit.

==

Odysseus arrives at the cafe, disguised as a young, sharply-dressed man.

You and him are naturally communicating mentally to decide the next move.

You sight the one you're meeting with almost immediately, a teenage boy who looks thoroughly annoyed. Odysseus takes the seat across from him without a word. He can't sense a Servant, so the boy must have come alone.

"So you're the one who wanted to meet, huh? My grandfather couldn't come out, so he sent me. Matou Shinji, now what do you want?"

[] "I'm here to help you. I have information on Servant Caster that I'm willing to give out."
[] "I'm here to form an alliance with your family."
[] "I'm just here for the food. Why does your hair look like seaweed?"
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>>34652450
supporting this even if its probably going to screw us over.
at the very least get some magus womin for "prana supplying"
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>>34652662
>call some mercenaries
Do we even have fucking funds?

> "I'm here to help you. I have information on Servant Caster that I'm willing to give out... if you're willing to make an alliance. Think of it as give and take situation"
Gotta get that trojan going
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>>34652662
>[x] It's too risky to call in unrelated people. If the Church catches wind of this, or they're too obvious and the Association notices a risk to the secrecy of Magecraft, you're in the shit.
>[x] "I'm here to help you. I have information on Servant Caster that I'm willing to give out."
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>>34652741
>Gotta get that trojan going
We have to give it to Zouken though, giving it Shinji won't help us.
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>>34652662
>[] Call in other magi as backup for you.
Just have them get fucked by our servants and then position them as neutral entities unless shit goes awry.

>[] "I'm here to help you. I have information on Servant Caster that I'm willing to give out."
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>>34652662
[x] Call up some mercenaries
Don't call any big names, lay low and only hire some lesser guys to act as meatshields in case we're attacked whilst servants are busy.
They don't even need to survive long as we're just using them in case our servants are busy.

[x] "I'm here to help you. I have information on Servant Caster that I'm willing to give out."
[x] "I'm here to form an alliance with your family."
THE MASTER OF RUSE BEGINS HIS RUSING
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>>34652662
Fucking zouken
>[] Call up some mercenaries (specify, magical or mundane). No overseers, no parents, no rules.

>[] "I'm here to form an alliance with your family."

No giving freebies when trojan won't work.
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>>34652802
Second that
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>>34652662
>all these guys not understanding how trojan works, shinji isn't the master ya know
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>>34652501
>Players shouldn't have to know anything about the Fate universe and its canon outside of what you provide them to make good decisions. Best not to invite meta to the thread.

Go to hell, Type-Moon meta is some of the best there is.
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>>34652662
>mercs
>alliance with family
i'm out, please don't die you autists
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>>34652965
That option is not about reveling the information, only about revealing we have it.
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From your bed you try to contact a set of mercenaries to come help you in the war, only to realize that the cost of hiring them is more than you and your wallet had anticipated. Hiring the Spiritual Surgeon from the Association to stop by for a few hours would have required most of your money, hiring mercenaries is outside your price range.

Grumbling slightly, you elect to find a way to obtain more funds, and make a mental note to hire them once you've done so. Odysseus can probably be useful in that regard, but you will need to do that before mercenaries or even other magi become accessible for hire.

===

"I'm here to help you. I have information on Servant Caster that I'm willing to give out." Odysseus says, Shinji giving a slight smirk.

"Well? Say it, then."

Odysseus shakes his head, going off on his own slightly. A benefit of Independent Action if you will. "I didn't say I'd just hand it out. I want to speak with the actual Master, and in return I want an alliance with your family. I won't give my intel to an intermediary, I want to say it to the Master and Servant directly."

Shinji falters back slightly at Odysseus's words, shooting him a slight cornered glare. "That's asking for a lot, you know?" He mutters.

Odysseus shrugs. "If I can't even speak to the Master himself, I don't see a reason to help him."

Shinji sighs. "Alright, fine, fine, I'll talk with my grandfather and we'll arrange another meeting. Tonight, around eleven in the Fuyuki Park, sound good?"

[] "Excellent. I hope to see your grandfather and his Servant there."
[] "Actually, I changed my mind, I'll go help the Tohsakas instead."
[] "Sure, sounds good. Actually, wait, give me all the money in your wallet too."
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>>34653090
>Write in
"Ten, the entrance to Fuyuki Temple, I'm sure that the Tohsakas would appreciate this information quite a bit as well you know..."
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>>34653090
[x] "Excellent. I hope to see your grandfather and his Servant there."
Dat last option
Anyhow, its been a long day, I'm out now.
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>>34653090
>[] "Sure, sounds good. Actually, wait, give me all the money in your wallet too."
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>>34653134
Seconding.
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>>34653090
[] "Sure, sounds good. Actually, wait, give me all the money in your wallet too."
lel
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>>34653090
>>34653134
Ask for all the money in his wallet too. Because fuck Shinji.
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>>34653090
[] "Excellent. I hope to see your grandfather and his Servant there."
Fuck, being a loli really does suck ;_;
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>>34653134
Third
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Has anyone mentioned that we can have Odysseus pretend to be Lancer's master yet? That could only end well.
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>>34653134
This, need to put some pressure on them
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>>34652662
>[X] "Excellent. I hope to see your grandfather and his Servant there."
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>>34653090
>bullying shinji
ody best husbando
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>>34653134
Fuckin' this
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>>34653202

Isn't that basically what we are doing right now?
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>>34653090
[X] "Excellent. I hope to see your grandfather and his Servant there."
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>>34653090
>[x] "Excellent. I hope to see your grandfather and his Servant there."
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>>34653202
>Revealing lancer at all
Nope, fuck that.
He's our wild card and only hope.
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>>34653202
>revealing lancer
>>34653134
this is fine
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>>34653281
Its Odysseus we shouldn't reveal. He benefits most from being a surprise.
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Odysseus smirks slightly at Shinji's faltering. "Make it at ten, and the entrance to the Ryuudouji Temple, I'm sure that the Tohsakas would appreciate this information quite a bit as well you know..."

Shinji grits his teeth. "Damn you...alright, fine, he'll be there."

"Actually, give me all the money in your wallet too." Odysseus adds on.

"Wh-what?!" Shinji stammers, looking at the Archer incredulously.

"I can stop by Tohsaka Rin's house on the way ba-"

"Fine, fine, here!" The Matou son blurts out, withdrawing his wallet and giving you its contents.

350 yen.

Oh Shinji.

With that, Odysseus and Shinji part ways.

You would call this a successful day and a half. You've gained a Servant, a large amount of information, a meeting with another Master, and general self-satisfaction.

Now the game would really begin.

[Part 2 End]

===

Good job today everyone, hope you enjoyed yourselves. Next thread will probably be in about 21 hours from now, ergo 2:00 EST. I'll announce it a few hours in advance and when the thread is actually made on my twitter, @BurialAgent6 if you missed it earlier.

Have a good one.
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>>34653313
We don't want to even think of revealing lancer unless we need to.
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>>34653257
I said that before reading to the end of the thread. Whoops.
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>>34653339
Devious shortstack best shortstack
I'm so glad we summoned Odysseus
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>>34653351
Why? Odysseus is the one with a NP that benefits from being hidden.
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>>34653339
AND WE GAINED 4 COMMAND SEALS
THAT MAKES SEVEN.
SEVEN TRAMPSTAMPS
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>>34653339
Not gonna lie, when I saw Ody's stats I thought we were screwed, but he's actually been great so far. Thanks for running Dawn.
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>>34653351
Thats true for our servants in general, but if we need to reveal one servant, its better to reveal Lancer, who is close-combat and can defend us better, than Odysseus who relies heavily on being a surprise.
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Odysseus is an Archer.

Gilgamesh is an Archer.

Why not claim Gilgamesh is this war's Archer?
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>>34653452
Perfect.
>>34653446
Meant this. If we HAVE to reveal a servant than reveal Lancer instead of Ody but don't just randomly reveal lancer for no good reason.
Only in times of must do we reveal lancer.
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>>34653452

What do we say when they ask what class our servant is?
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>>34653488
Our Servant is pretending not to be a Servant.
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So we got to meet with the Church's surgeon this evening and then an appointment at 10 with the Matous.

Do we have anything else on our plate?
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>>34653488
we have lancer say hes saber when he obviously wields a lance making it appear we are a bad liar which will change perception for us beneficially since we look like a loli after all.
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>>34653488
Lancer, of course.

Our other Servant is >>34653512
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>>34653417
So, lets review our character.

Short, most likely under 4'9.
Stacked with large breasts (In American sizes) 28E/DDD, and generally voluptuous.
Now 7 Tramp stamp command seals, unsure of position.
Long hair, akin to Rani.
Tanned/Very light brown skin
Red eyes(?)
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>>34653516
Besides the fact that Circe knew Odysseus in her past and she needs to be removed asap, nothing much.

We're currently "winning" the war when not including gil.
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>>34653553
>Stacked with large breasts (In American sizes) 28E/DDD, and generally voluptuous.
Not in my mind she's not. Eww.
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>>34653572

Could Lancer one shot Circe with his noble phantasm? She has A divinity after all.

Of course getting Lancer in position to use the Noble Phantasm is the hard part but
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>>34653526
>Yfw that actually makes sense
/tg/ masters of armchair psychology.

In all seriousness, this has been a great thread. Not even needing to save-scum
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>>34653417
I thought we only gained two off Kirei? That only makes five.
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>>34653638

Church is giving us 4 because honest lolis need to be rewarded.
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>>34653553
absolutely disgusting
>>34653624
he could one-shot but a np like his would mean we need to be comatose mode or burn a cs
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>>34653406
Because why reveal that we have a second servant if we don't have to?
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>>34653624
She probably has shit END so he could one shot her anyway, but the A Divinity means every hit he uses against her or her spells is like having A++ STR, so we can like destroy her rain of light or whatever just by spinning the lance around.

>>34653638
Church is giving us an extra 2 and a free cross because we were good people.
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>>34653667
I'm surprised they aren't investigating our story more.

You mean you attacked the apparent Overseer of the War for... what reason, exactly?
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>>34653553
>>34653417
Delicious.
I wish I could draw so badly right now.

>>34653638
Church awarded us an extra 2 for being honest.
2+2= 4
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>>34653692
He has the ability to pretend he's not a Servant. Why the fuck do you think we'd be revealing it?

Nobody knows we have Ody right now. Nobody has seen him. Except Kirei, who is dead, and Gilgamesh.
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>>34653695
Church was hella suspicious of Kirei after the 4th war, but they're probably doing some investigations of this that we don't know about.
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>>34653553
If we manage to re-start again, I'm not letting us be anyone else after hearing that description
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>>34653553
Nix the large breasts and CS's as tramp stamps and you'll be spot on.
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>>34653722

I doubt their investigation will turn up more than the fact there was a fight and Kotomine lost.

The only witnesses to the actual fight are our servants anyway
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>>34653748
>Wanting to remove short stack
Why.
>Wanting to remove tramps stamps
Have you no taste?
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>>34653783
>>Wanting to remove short stack
>Why.
There's a height below which large breasts are an abomination and 4'9 is clearly past it.
>>
DFC or Death
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>>34653709
>>34653553
All I can say is, muh dick

>>34653825
See >>34653709 that girl's like 4'9 in her own series and she looks pretty awesome.
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>>34653783
>Short Stack
But I prefer loli homunculus
>Tramp Stamp
Yes, I have no taste in tramps. Problem?
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>>34653339
>No-one will ever realize I same-fagged at the very beginning of this quest to keep it alive.
>No-one will realize I didn't even follow this quest but just did it to keep a quest thread from dieing
>Now thread has like 6-7 people, I feel so proud when I realize I actually managed to save a quest
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>>34653775
Speaking of which one of our servants is a saint. How good does that get us in with the church? We are a homunculus necromancer with a saint sidekick. How does anybody react to that?
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>>34653848
>But I prefer loli homunculus
Disappointing.
>Yes, I have no taste in tramps. Problem?
Tramp stamps are a term for tattoos on the lower back, nothing else.
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>>34653874
oh wow, didn't even realise

>>34653878
>heretic
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>>34653900
>Disappointing.
>Being disappointed by someone else's taste.
Something is wrong with you.
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>>34653929
>the irony
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>>34653946
Noting that someone has a severe personality flaw is not the same as being disappointed.
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>>34653842
>Death
What?
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>>34653900
The point is that we already did that with the CS's last run, try to have some variation or you'll get boring.
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>>34654024
How about one just above the breasts? Right in the vally?
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>>34653929
Nah, that's you mate.
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>>34653339
So current stats are
>Homunculus shortstack with 7 command spells and 2 servants (archer [Ody] and lancer [saint long name]).
>Zouken with ?????? at matou residence
>Someone with Caster (Circe) at the temple
>Tohsaka Rin with ?????? at tohsaka residence
>Einsbern with ?????? at ?????? (might be at ilya's castle)
>Rider
>Seiba
>Assassin
>No overseer
>Gilgamesh free and running amok
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>>34654451
You forgot Berserker, which means there are two mystery masters, one for Caster and one for whoever's leftover after you take out the three Greats.

Ody said he didn't detect a Servant the second time he passed by the Matous, so they probably have assassin. Ilya probably has Berserker because the Einzberns would want to do that.
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>>34654564
It might not follow canon but yeah true that.
There's two mystery masters which presumably is an OC one and shirou unless I'm wrong.
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>>34654451
>No overseer
this is going to get bloody
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>>34654451
I bet someone with 7 command seals and 2 servants could take out Gilgamesh easily.
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>>34655027
>beating gil
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>>34654859
Why? What does the overseer actually do? The only thing I remember is declaring open war on Caster in Zero.
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>>34655045
If seven fucking command seals don't do it, nothing can. Especially if Ody can
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>>34655055
The overseer is the only reason previous wars didn't devolve to massive hiring of mercenaries or non-chosen people like the 2nd war.

It's basically the reason outsiders were kept out of the war.
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>>34655080
>Fighting Gilgamesh when we don't need to
To make you properly understand this, just read up on what Gilgamesh did during CCC.
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>>34655132
He's more dangerous to everyone else than he is to us, unless he holds a grudge about Kirei's death.

It's actually to our advantage if he scares everyone else into allying with us.
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>>34655210
Ummm anon, did you even read what he said?
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>>34655238
No. He replied to me. That's enough.
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>>34655080
QM mentioned CCC, meaning that he's probably taking CCC into account.

If that's the case, Gil is way too strong for us. He doesn't seem to give a fuck about us though, our best bet is just to stay out of his way.
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>>34655275
>autism
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Odysseus's stats seem pretty low for someone who gets read about by a ton of students.
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>>34655627
Have you even seen his NPs and skills?

Any higher stats would be broken.
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>>34655627
Archer's have pretty low stats.
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>>34655764
So? Gilgamesh gets to be broken. Clearly that's not a dealbreaker.

>>34655834
And he was an Archer.
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>>34655862
If we had Gilgamesh this wouldn't be fun. It'd just be "win". There has to be some balance.
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>>34655862
Gilgamesh is the very definition of broken because he's fucking gilgamesh
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>>34655862
>using gilgamesh as an argument
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>>34655937
Why can't Odysseus be fucking Odysseus? I'd bet you anything more people know about Odysseus's legend than Gilgamesh's.
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>>34656003
>baiting this hard
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>>34656003
>japan
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>>34656206
Huh. I wonder what books are required reading over there.



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