>>34897661
Why do I think Doom the most badass BBEG the world has ever seen what?

>>34897661
When you have the writers on your side, no one can stand in your way.

>>34897661
>Doom
>evil

All he wants is to make the world a better place

It's not his fault that faggot Richards fucks it up every time

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>implying Doom is not the hero of the setting

>>34897661
>>34897688

>Doom -IS- the

I've always felt he has too much wank on his side (Unless squirrel girl is there or something anyway). Also for all the badassery he's apparently capable of you'd think he'd do more than keep a tiny country (then again I haven't read any comics in a while, so I have no idea what he's doing these days)

>>34897882
Yeah me neither so I did a crash course and he's conquered the world on multiple occasions and given it up because it was too unfulfilling

You mean that bitch that cried about 9/11?

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>>34897907
Once you have been god ruling a single planet is kinda meh

>>34897907
I suppose it isn't his fault that he's in a comic book that wants to stay somewhat parallel to the real world (aside from the super-powered dudes anyway), but in my mind that still hurts the character since that means he can really only do his thing in what-if situations

>>34897661
Take Me To Your Leader was better than all the DOOM albums, so King Gheedorah is the best BBEG the world has ever seen.

>>34898232
Haha nice!

>>34897661
Doom spends all his time protecting his people, protecting the planet, and building infrastructure he'll need in the future to eliminate dangerous threats to the human race.

>>34898983
Would be we better off in a world of Doom?

> BBEG
> not glorious hero to live your life by

>>34897882
>>34897907
He built a cabal of self-aware robots that think like he does whose only purpose is to build weapons and establish power bases to take on mega-threats.

He tutors his god-daughter/familiar (Valeria Richards, Reed and Sue's daughter) in both Magic and Science.

He wages war on sueprnatural threats.

He kicked the crap out of Wakanda to steal a small stockpile of Vibranium enchanted by an ancient african tiger-god.

He's got a lab stocked with severed body parts of slain asgardians he's studying and re-animating to unlock the secrets of divine power and immortality.

He tinkers in his labs, building technology that borders on magic.

Dude's kinda busy to play politics with a bunch of double-digit-IQ-political appointees, or get into slugging matches with garishly costumes american clowns.

>>34899026
Probably. A wakandan god admitted that in every possible future it can forsee, the only ones that don't end in the extinction of the human race are the ones in which Doom rules the planet.

So the choice is Extinction, or living in a world in which the smartest man to ever live designed everything, including society, to give you everything you need and afford you a moderate level of comfort.

>>34899199
I for one welcome our new Doom overlord

DOCTOR DOOM Villain

Real Name: Victor von Duum.

Occupation: Monarch.

Identity: Publicly known.

Legal Status: King of Latveria, with full diplomatic immunity in the United States.

Other Aliases: None.

Place of Birth: Gypsy camp outside Haasenstadt (now Doomstadt), Latveria.

Marital Status: Single.

Known Relatives: Werner (father, deceased); Cynthia (mother, deceased).

Group Affiliation: None.

Base of Operations: Castle Doom, Doomstadt, Latveria.

Height: 6' 2"

Weight: 225 lbs.

Eyes: Brown

Hair: Brown.

Uniform: Silver-gray armor, green tunic, green hooded cloak, brown belt, silver-gray full-face mask. Strength Level: Without his armor, Doctor Doom possesses the normal strength of a man his age, height, and build who engages in regular exercise. Doom's armored suit contains an electrically powered skeleton which enables Doom to lift (press) approximately 2 tons.

Known Superhuman Powers: Doctor Doom is a dabbler in magic. His powers, like those of other Earth-born sorcerers, are derived from three sources: innate personal abilities like telepathy and astral projection, ambient magical energies, and extradimensional sources like the Vishanti and various demons. Doom has not yet mastered any exact discipline, but tends to draw upon extradimensional sources.

Other Abilities: Doctor Doom is one of Earth's greatest scientific geniuses. He has made unique contributions in the fields of robotics, quantum physics, genetic engineering, weapons technology, and many other areas. He has developed matter transmitters, a shrinking gas which utilizes Pym particles (see Ant-Man), which he discovered independently, and even a working time machine. He occasionally uses alchemy to enhance his scientific achievements. Because he fancies himself a "modern-day Renaissance Man," Doom has studied many other fields, including painting, sculpture, history, and the gentlemanly sport of fencing.

Weapons: Doctor Doom utilizes many weapons, most of which he invented himself. He is never without a sidearm, which has been at varying times a laser, blaster, disintegrator, or nausea-inducing microwave pistol.

Paraphernalia: Doctor Doom's original battlesuit was designed to provide protection against conventional small arms fire while granting increased strength. His current battlesuit has increased these capabilities and added additional ones. As noted above, his battlesuit enables him to lift (press) around two tons under optimum conditions. Its armor is impervious to sustained small arms fire, and has been shown to resist being melted by the Human Torch's fire and enduring a pounding from the Thing (see Human Torch). The battlesuit is also environmentally sealed, having an internal air supply of about four hours. It has sensors that enable him to see in both the infrared and ultraviolet spectrums, read signs a mile distant, and hear minute sounds.

Offensively, the battlesuit is equipped with a pair of integral charged particle beams on its forearms which are capable of punching through two inch thick steel plates.

Recently, Doctor Doom has added a jet pack to his armor, enabling him to fly at speeds of about 100 mph.

History: Victor von Duum was born to gypsy parents in the small country of Latveria, which at the time was part of Yugoslavia. As a youth, he was forced to watch as his mother was burned at the stake by their superstitious neighbors for witchcraft. His father was later killed in front of his eyes by Yugoslavian soldiers during a random purge of suspected insurrectionists. These events gave young Victor the overwhelming desire to obtain the power so that none could hurt him. This later evolved into a desire for power for its own sake.

To that end, Victor threw himself into his studies, learning any skill and obtaining any knowledge anyone would teach him or he could find in the public libraries. His studiousness, natural intelligence, and the innovations he achieved with what little resources he had came to the attention of the Yugoslavian leadership, who sponsored his education for their own ends.

Upon turning 18, Vic was sent to a university in the United States, where he was initially roomed with Reed Richards and Benjamin Grimm (see Mister Fantastic, Thing). Vic found a kindred intellect in Reed, but was disparaged by what he perceived as Ben's limited intelligence. At first, Reed and Vic would discuss their theories with each other, but Vic's own ego would not permit himself the possibility of his being wrong about anything, even when Reed and even Ben would find errors in his calculations. In anger over these perceived slights one day, he stormed out of their dorm room and effected a transfer to another university.

Eventually, Vic, now calling himself Doctor Doom as a pun on his last name, returned to his native Latveria to discover that its new leadership had been terrorizing the peasantry, playing on their superstitious fears of vampires, werewolves, and witches. Infuriated when his offer to meet with the Latverian leadership was rejected, Doom whipped the peasants into a fury, arming them with weapons he'd had smuggled in or invented himself, and marched on the capital city. Victor personally slew the leaders and set himself up as Latveria's new king, with the popular support of the peasants. He walked away from the battle practically unscathed, save for a cut on his right cheek which he vainly believes detracts from his looks.

Since then, Doom has turned Latveria around. The tiny nation now enjoys one of the highest per capita incomes of the developed world, and only fails to be a major economic power due to its lack of size and population. Technology has found a home here like no other, and Doom's self-invented super-technology is such an obvious part of modern Latverian life that it actually attracts tourism. Latveria is also home to a growing motion picture and special effects studio; the old-world charm of rural Latveria coupled with the high technology base of the capital city of Doomstadt makes it a common site for filming movies, several of which have won awards for their special effects. Doom has built schools and universities, all the while motivating his people to excel wherever possible. While the nation is small, it is militarily secure due to automaton soldiers watching the border, and Doom enjoys a certain amount of impunity due to having his entire nation protected by the only functional anti-nuclear force field in the world.

Despite the good he's done for Latveria, Doom has his dark side. Upon learning on the news that his old college roommates and their friends had gained superhuman powers as the Fantastic Four, Doom began plotting their destruction (see Fantastic Four). He still holds a powerful grudge against Dr. Richards, and has plotted Reed's destruction several times.

Doom's first clash with the Fantastic Four came when he invited Dr. Richards to Latveria as part of a scientific conference he was hosting. In reality, the conference was an attempt to discredit Reed's claim of having invented a faster-than-light drive. When this failed, he had the four jailed on trumped-up charges; upon their escape he declared them outlaws in Latveria. Since then, his schemes to destroy Richards and the others of the Fantastic Four have been publicly declared as efforts to "bring them to justice."

>>34900263
>Since then, his schemes to destroy Richards and the others of the Fantastic Four have been publicly declared as efforts to "bring them to justice."
They regularly fly nuclear-powered jet cars over international boundaries without filing flight plans with relevant authorities, often while transporting illegal, untested, and unregulated experiments, or exotic invasive organic material from other worlds. Only Richards' "MEdia Darling" status and contacts in the US State Department have prevented everyone from the UN, the nuclear Regulatory Commision, the FAA, and Interpol from hunting them down and jailing them in a deep, dark hole until the sun fizzles out.

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>>34900368
Yea i have not read any of the comics what has this guy done too get the villain title because so far he just seems like a good guy with too much of a ego

Doom's entire gimmick is having to be 2nd best at everything.

Science? 2nd only to Pym
Magic? 2nd only to Dr. Strange
Eldritch Knowledge? 2nd only to Thanos
Alien Knowledge? 2nd only to Nova
Vast Wealth? 2nd only to Stark
Athleticism and Martial Arts? 2nd only to Iron Fist

But damn it, you need to assemble a damn team if you want to take down DOOM.

>>34900368
Its outright made obvious in the Ultimates comics.

While DOOM is a hero, with bad PR.
Richards is a world-ending villain with good PR.

While DOOM simply wants equal footing for his country Latveria to the rest of the world. (America won't let him due to butthurt.)

Richards is experimenting with a portal that attracted a swarm of planet-devouring aliens to earth. (His method to save planet Earth resulted in taking hostage multiple galaxies in a mutually-assured destruction between earth and the alien threat. Even so far as to destroy one galaxy potentially filled with life to prove he's not bluffing)

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>>34900522
>Even so far as to destroy one galaxy potentially filled with life to prove he's not bluffing


What the fuck Richards

>>34900557
Its not a war crime if the victims aren't humans.

>>34900429
Because Richards and family get to pretend to be 'heroes'. And they have the attention of american media, which gets rebroadcast all over the world. So their version of the story gets told, and not Doom's.

Grimm:>"Yeah, we were just flying along, minding our own business, carrying soem new doohickey to a conference in sweden. Then a bunch of flying robots appeared and siddled alongside us. Well, johnny went out to meet them, and they started shooting at us, so we destroyed them. Reed said they came from Castle Doom, so we kicked in the doors and trashed the machines Victor used to control his robots. But because he's the legal leader, we couldn't rough him up or depose him, so we left for he conference."

Doom:>"My sensors detected a dangerous radiation signature approaching sovereign Latverian airspace. Flight Control at Doomstadt international airport reported no incoming or bypassing flights on record, and the conform to known commercial or government designs. I deployes a wing of aerial defense droids to investigate. The vessel ignored radio warnings to divert or land. The drones detected a major heat signature launching from the vessel. They deployed appropriate countermeasures to deter missile or bombing attacks. They failed and were destroyed. After blowing up several million dollars in UN-Sanctioned military equipment, the pilots of the vessel landed in Doomstadt, caused several million more dollars in damage to my personal home, destroyed several priceless works of art, assaulted me and my security forces, destroyed some very delicate machinery used for national defense, then left after committing their terrorist actions. The US state department is still ignoring me, and I'm really getting tired of overlooking these blatant acts of war.

>>34897661
>Villain
>Not hero

>>34899199
Actually it's the only world where we UNITE and survive.

Other worlds exist that have disunited survial.

>>34900522
Ultimate Victor Van Daam was a serious prick capable of a few good deeds.

>>34900632
to be fair, everyone was dicks in ultimates.

>>34900632
The biggest prick ironically had to be Captain "does-this-A-stand-for-France?!" America.

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>>34900415

>In many alternate realities, Earth will face extinction.
>unless it was ruled by DOOM.

Is he Marvel's God Emprah?

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>>34900734
>Is he Marvel's God Emprah?
Dr. Doom is Marvel's God Emprah, just as Lex Luthor os DC's.

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10360716/1/The-Metropolitan-Man

>>34900734
>>34900785
Don't be ridiculous.

God Emperor of Mankind is 40k's DOOM

>>34900785
Red Son Superman was fucking great.

I love that they didn't take the easy route of "lol, evil Superman" and made it so he DID still care about humanity and want to help people, he just did it by being Big Brother.

>>34900699
At least it was a personality we've seen before like in US Agent. Ultimate Deadpool was... ugh. what the hell.

>>34900804
>he DID still care about humanity and want to help people, he just did it by being Big Brother.

So.... Injustice: Gods Among Us?

>>34900785
I'm gonna call utter bullshit on that one.

Luthor's main flaw is that he capitalizes a ton on his breakthroughs.

>I made an instant cure for cancer, but I'm going to tell the lab guys downstairs to make it a month-long therapy to rake in the megabucks.

>I made a cure for AIDS using cheap chemicals - but I will patent it, charge exhorbitant amounts for it and ship it very very rarely, to create an artificial demand.

>I just discovered unlimited safe energy using Kryptonite. But I will only use it on my mech in my fight versus Supes.

>>34897661
Because Doom quest

RIP Lucia von bardas ;.;

>>34900819
No, Injustice was dogshit as a game and the plot seemed more out of Liefeld than anything.

Red Son Superman is treated with some measure of respect instead of it just being "tyrant Superman". He doesn't invade other countries, rather letting them join his Soviet Union that he runs competently, he doesn't try to manipulate anyone, he saves New York when Lex Luthor has the CIA drop a satellite on it(just to see if Superman would save it).

At the end, Superman comes to terms that humanity needs to be the one to take care of itself and fakes his own death saving the Earth and lives incognito while Lex Luthor combines his and Superman's philosophies.

>>34900457

Unless you're Squirrel Girl.

Or arguably Deadpool

>>34900857
Also, this here. This fucking here.

Someone check out All Star Superman where Lex makes a big deal out of how awesome he is for being able to compete with Superman without superpowers, and the one time he manages to make a Superman-elixer to give himself Kryptonian powers, he sees the world as Superman sees it and realizes how much time he's wasted on being a dick and trying to one-up Superman.

Guys like Lex Luthor and Vandal Savage could easily be the greatest of men, the idea that they aren't is what makes them the foils to the heroes.

>>34900892
That's another hilarious flaw with DOOM.

There's a theory that... anything he ISN'T 2nd best at, he's bound to fail miserably.

Deadpool's is utter insanity and randomness that even Taskmaster can't predict.

Squirrelgirl is plot armor. Massive amount of it that she can stand next to an enraged hulk and not be swatted out to orbit.

>>34900870
You have no idea how much I miss those threads.

I was the one who had us set up self-sustaining auto-colonies in Mars' past

>>34900734
He IS the Emprah.

>>34900915
>Vandal Savage could easily be the greatest of men
Yeah. Nah. Bad example.

Lex is Lawful Neutral at best. Beneficent to Mankind even though he's a greedy xenophobic capitalist.

Vandal, ever since he was a caveman, has a simple goal - be on top of the the figurative foodchain.

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>>34900936
Mah nigga

>Mfw Riiiiiiiicharrrrds! meltdown on the colbert report
>Mfw suddenly skrulls
>Mfw shaping Valeria into Doom 2.0

shit was comics as fuck

>>34900968
I don't think Vandal Savage IS the greatest of guys, just that if he wasn't a dick, he could be.

Sure, he never grew out of his caveman goals, but he's shown to be pretty damn smart and capable of running stuff well. He's just a huge dick as well.

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>>34900587

I like the Doom who is basically the ultimate mortal facing down universal superbeings, like that one awesome image where he's like "I feel like the speck of dust I am. I'm going to shit fire up the dickholes of these Gods anyways, and they will feel it."

>>34901069
>Every Doom quest thread.png

could doom guy kill doom?

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>>34900587

Well, he kinda IS a supervillian too. But Richards is just as bad, if not worse. Even in 616.

Richards took a weapon of mass destruction and refused to turn it over to Pym (Who's tech it was based on, so he was claiming it was logical that he take it apart to see how it works/if it's dangerous) with 'We both know Pym, I know a lot more about Pym Particles than you do'.

I think part of it is that both of them have the exact same flaw. Pride. Both think they know better than everyone else and are smarter than everyone else and honestly? Neither really care what others think about it or if they have to stomp a few people to get thier way.

It's why Tony & Hank are two of the most moral of the various super scientists. Stark wrestles with the idea that he COULD make the world a better place...but he'd had to step on some fingers. Sometimes he slips into it but he's clearly TRYING to be a good person. Pym knows he's a fuckup when he gets in his Mad Science Zone and thus takes a lot of care when he's actually on his bloody meds to try and use his technology responsibly and carefully. He doesn't want to make Ultron again.

Doom and Richards? Neither really cares.

>>34901086
"What man has wrought. Let no god put asunder."

Its a line I've been quoting for my Atheist Cleric.
*tips athar hat*

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>>34900415
>In THAT world, there are laws. To break even the slightest of these is to suffer immediate and terminal punishment. After a while, no one would dare lay hands upon the innocent, or commit a crime of hate, or steal bread from the table of another.
And this, Ladies and Gentlemen is what defines Doom as Evil.
He is almost quite literally Judeo-Christian Satan.

No free-will, no choice, no way to know who is truly good without the crucible of strife.
Pure stagnation of humanity once "perfection" is achieved in the universe.

An eternity of existence with no purpose, no meaning. That is what Doom offers. And over that I would gladly stand before him and choose death.

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>>34901203
>He is almost quite literally Judeo-Christian Satan.

You're a fucking moron is what you are Anon.

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>>34901250
Oh jeez, I love this angel dude already.

>>34901203
Funny you mention that - by not siding with DOOM, the other inevitable path is certain extinction of the human race.

Genuflect upon the DOOM emperor of mankind of be exterminated.

>>34901265
The Cat God only says it's the only one where we survive united. it's entirely possible a human diaspora type deal occurs in other worlds.

>>34901203
>>34901241
>>34901250

Depends on the interpretation of him. I mean, it's not like there isn't a dozen different ways to see the guy thanks to stuff like paradise lost.

>>34901262

Kinda just comes off as a dick.

>>34901265

ish. Doom isn't all knowing and he's a skilled sorcerer but not the greatest. He's also heavily blinded by pride. He got the vibranium because his motives were pure, not because he was certainly right.

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>>34901203
You're absolutely free to break the law, Doom will just kill you for it. There is nothing about his ultimatum that restricts your freedom as long as you're a law abiding citizen.
>>34901294
I'm not saying he ain't a dick. That line is just perfect villain talk and I love it.

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>>34901283
>t's entirely possible a human diaspora type deal occurs in other worlds.

Maybe. But a world without DOOM is Chaos.

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>>34901368
>Centre of order
Is there a centre of chaos, or is that simply what lies beyond order?

>Doom is the God emprah
>Hulk is a particularly powerful Ork
>Wolverine is an agent of Khorne
>Deadpool is touched by Nurgle

anything else I'm missing?

>>34901391
There is no chaos, only a failing to understand the workings of the machine.

>>34901385
that voice is gonna get really annoying to read through
Interesting comic so far though, is there a source?

So... god is just shitty at explaining things?

Now the bible and it's million of different translations makes sense.

Okay, now post the comic where Doom removes the ability to joke from the human race in his future because he was butthurt about comedians joking about him.

Don't worry, da villian is da good guy all along guize

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>>34901460

Vertigo comic's Lucifer.

There is a torrent for it.

I'd post it but.

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>>34901385
is there not more?

>>34901415
Professor X and Magneto are two telepathically linked heads of a Lord of Change?

>>34901415

>Deadpool
>not a plaything of tzeench

>>34901415
Deadpool is the only character I could imagine who would be in an alliance with all factions and pantheons without "going crazy"

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>>34901495

Different interpretations of the character. Happens to every long-running comic-book character. Especially the villains, because writers seem to have some need to alternate a few of them between villain and hero.

Doom has been so Saturday-morning evil that he qualifies as comic relief (pic related). He's also done awesome, heroic things purely for selfish reasons (killed the demon in some hell-dimension to rescue his mom). He's also done horrible, ridiculous things for admirable reasons (like in that cat picture we're talking about now).

Is Doom a "good guy"? Usually not, no. He's universally an asshole and egomaniac. But he's often fighting for the same things that the good guys are. And sometimes he actually IS one. And other times he's so hilariously not-good that it makes those times when he was good look silly.

In summation: he's a comic-book character.

>>34901495
That was from exiles. It was a alternative world. In the same series you had a serial killer peter Parker bonded with carnage.

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>>34901482
Probably.
It may also explain the reason he likes to name, rename, and entitle things.
He seems to have an obsession with symbolism, euphemisms, and designation.

And to toss another interesting chunk of headcannon.
Thanks to Einsteins Theory of Relativity, that space and time are one and the same, it means that anything outside of the universe would be outside of time.
Anything occurring inside this universe to an outside observer already has, is, and will be occurring, and all at the same instant, explaining God's Omniscience, however something to be observed this way, it must still happen.

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>>34901513
change the dots to " (dot) " and slashes to " (slash) "

>>34901514
>>34901623
You know you could just make your own thread on it.

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>>34901623
>Is asked why they were given death
>Does not answer and says only: "Obey Me"
>"Worship no one, not even me"

Damn that sounds familiar

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>>34901649
I'll go back to posting Doom.

>>34901663
My Man! Big E!

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>>34901554
Deadpool isn't calculating, ambitious, or intelligent at all.

He's just diseased and unkillable.
He's is exactly archetypal of Nurgle's Blessing.

>>34897754
Is he on Spice?

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>>34901719
woa, what the fuck man. Don't joke about that stuff. Spice is a seriously hard drug. It'll extend your life and turn your eyes blue man. If you take enough of it you'll turn into a MATH alien

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>>34900857
once superman is gone he can replace him as a true savior. money has always been the next best thing to godhood, once superman is gone, he has no need for second best.

Basically there's no need for him to make money once superman is gone.

>>34901635
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>>34901784

>Putin calling someone an arrogant egotistical meglomaniac

Hey pot, let's not say things about kettle, ok?

>>34901784
hehehehe, The Russian President is calling the kettle black.

>>34897754
Does anyone here believe he actually checked a possible future where he put his pride aside and worked with Richards to protect the world?
Methink no.

>>34901817
>>34901818
Putin is just jelly he doesn't have magic.

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>>34901794
>Basically there's no need for him to make money once superman is gone.

How would he keep his companies staffed, hard working men and women supporting their households and families?

The upkept on his factories, the hotels, the acres of farmland.

How much of an idiot are you?

>>34901818
>>34901817

Frankly it's a matter of degree and competence. Is it ego when you really are that capable? Putin is just a dull meatbag with too much money and power.

Doom is a literal superhuman with magic and a whole goddamn book of Things To Do that he's checking off, nice and steadily.

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>>34897661
no because his adversary is an autistic douchebag

the fantastic four all suck, all except for poor Ben

>>34900785
>the triple had replaced the couple

>half the world is walking around in devil's threesomes and this is okay

>>34901834

>Implying Putin is not blessed by Baba Yaga

>>34901849
He wishes he was. He pissed off Yaga and he's doomed for it, and he knows it, but thinks he can get one over on old Baba.

He can't, and won't.

>>34901839
>Putin is just a dull meatbag with too much money and power.

He has more ambition then you'll ever have! How dare you mock the closest thing we have to a real life bond villain! Have you not been inside Putin's Russia?

>>34901839
>>34901818

It is bad that I totally want to see an over the top battle between Doom and Putin in the same sense as that Hitler vs Stalin wizard one?

>>34901836
He could declare himself president, start a monopoly and effectively turn the country into a effectively self-sufficient communist state.

>>34901864
His ambition is watery, useless, and small. Ambition means nothing when you want to pitifully conquer an expanse of hellish cold and dirty rock.

Like a fly wanting to rule a trash can.

>>34901839
>Putin is just a dull meatbag with too much money and power.
and enough secretly stockpiled nukes to turn the world into glass! Twice!

>>34901889
I'm kind of in love with the idea that Superman and Luthor's greatest failings is that they exist together, and thus limit one another to the point that it hurts them both as people.

>>34901897
The fact he'd have to rely on such a Fail All option to actually pretend he has real power and meaning shows how small he is.

>>34901905
That is why villains are often the best part of any superhero.

>>34901896
except for the metric tons of oil underneath and a strategic shipyard that many european ships needs to dock in.

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>>34901896
>Comparing Russia to North Korea.
Now I know you're rusing me.

As for a villain story.

>In the 1980's, as the Soviet Union was fast decaying, Putin served as a low-level KGB agent in East Germany.

>A decade later, he was plucked from the ranks pf the Kremlin buraucracy to lead the FSB,

>and he made sure to hold onto hi ties in the security service when he was promoted to the post of President.

>>34901712
Deadpool acts in completely unpredictable ways that seem so random that even characters who's powers are literally that they can see patterns can't see his pattern.
then at the end of the arc you see that every one of his actions has led to a single point that nobody including himself saw coming.

Just. As. Planned.

>>34901926
>hi ties
'his ties' or 'HighChi'?

>>34901932
It's not a plan if it's unplanned ya dink. It's in the very fucking definition.

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>>34901918
>>34901925

>>34901702
>plan is to open a portal to hell
>doom becomes doomguy
I would be hype if it weren't the most obvious joke in existence

>>34900870
>>34900936
Wait. This board had DOOM Quest? And I missed this? WHY!?

>>34901932
Just stop. Deadpool can not be a Tzeentch follower since he can't even stay sane or intelligent long enough.

>>34901945
just as planned.

>>34901947
>Doom a berserker-packing man and a half

I am throwing money at everything in the house and screaming but nothing is happening, help

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>>34901839
One of them is fictional. The other one is eyeing you 'merica.

>>34901945
>not being such a strategist that your moves are hidden to everyone, including yourself so that not even you may betray them despite your general immunity to mind reading

Tzeentch is displeased.

>>34897661
Doom a shit and Doomfags suck

>>34901961
>>34901967
please go fuck a cactus

>>34901949
Because anon it was nearly only a year ago

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=Doom+quest

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>>34901966
>implying it isn't all sad posturing by impotent old men who know they're all parasitically trapped together in the Russia-China-America moneypit ruled by corporate interest above all else and that all these wars are nothing more than power plays to feel strong and 99% done at the empty behest of financial interest and nothing else

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>>34901996

>>34901979
I know nothing about 40k really save from reading here, but I like this inferred idea that the bird god and his bird slaves do nothing but point at anything that happens and squawk "JUST AS PLANNED" no matter how much or little they had to do with it.

Like that's their existence. Stealing credit for absolutely nothing and nobody caring while they boil to death in their own heady smugstew.

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>>34902005

>>34902008
basically yes. Unless they're telling the truth and they really did plan it. but they couldn't have. or maybe they could.

It's the worst kind of person to deal with, you can't prove them wrong because technically they're not arguing anything tangible.

>>34902002
>implying those downsides are downsides

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>>34902015

>>34902022
No, I kind of like the idea that they didn't and they just convince themselves they did. That's suitably sad, funny, desperate, and wholly useless.

>>34902002
Do i get a reward card for frequent kidnapping?

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>>34902044

>>34902033
exactly, it goes back to the roots of real trolling. what they say has no meaning, and expending literally any effort because of them is a victory for them.

unless they're actually right and have been calling the shots all along.

>>34902033
They already have this. It's called Les Shadoks.

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>>34902098
Seriously Strange? You got beaten by failing a save against silence? Shouldn't you have all the meta magic feats out of pure principle?

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>>34902113

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>>34902117
He was up against Doom. There was no other way out unless Doom willed it.

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>>34902002
pls -deity- make this happen

>>34902172
Fucking glorious. The fate Doom deserves.

>>34902172
>Galan

Galactus was originally the explorer Galan from the planet Taa,

>>34902172
>we will never be ushered into an age of DOOM and become a force capable of conquering the universe.

>>34902185
I don't get it. He just purged the universe of all non human life and then retired to a peaceful earth?

>>34902172
>>34902197

>Bell-forging towns start to produce boilers and cannons
>Goldsmiths turn from fine jewelry to clockworks.
>Growing industries and new buildings.
>A vast foundry is built and a college of engineers is formed.

How long till they hit 21st century tech?

What exactly are the beyonders powers? Could he use his remaining powers to get more powers?

>>34902212
if you are Doom and know the road map, not long actually. It'd take less than a generation in all reality. You only need to run through the motions to get increasingly better tools, and find the required resources.

You could be pumping out computers in ten years.

>inb4 How did the Celestials fight so long against the infinity gems?

Celestials can counter the effects of the infinity gems by creating sub-universes that are unaffected by them.

>>34902172
Ultimate End.

Hell yes.

>>34902227
The beyonder used his powers before dying to limit the power inherited to non-infinite cycling, I suppose.

>>34902251
Really? Can't DOOM undo that though? I mean, I would first chance I got.

>>34901951
>implying tzeentch is sane

>>34902272
Consider how much power it would take to fight all the gods that ever truly existed for four hundred and seven YEARS and come out on top with power remaining at all.
I suppose it was simply "NEARLY infinite".

>>34902303
>with power remaining at all.
With power enough to literally renew the earth, relocate it, and set it spinning.

>>34902210
>>34902308
After some google, could it be that the people he's joining are some proto-/alternative kree? At least that's what the name "Galen" brought up in context.

>>34902303
No, before fighting those guys. I'd do it before hand so as to completely stomp them.

>>34902327
I personally don't know shit about the universe, the last comics I read were essential compendiums of Thor and Fantastic 4 (fn fact: it's canon tha Hitler survived WW2 and became a villain in one of the comics).
I think that might be digging too far, but I wouldn't put it past them.

>>34899199
Bring on the communist utopia of DOOM.

>>34902340
That's what I'm saying, if there was a way he would have, but he still had nearly infinite potential.

>>34902229
Does that means Franklin can fight against infinity gems too?

>>34902368
Franklin Richards is by canon, just as strong as the beyonder.

>>34901265
sure, everything has to end eventually.

>>34902388
Such shortsightedness is why Doom shall lead and you shall follow.

>>34902368
Alternative universe Richards wield the infinity gauntlet like dictators.

The council of Reeds are disgusting.

>>34902035
Is... is that a reference to THE TECHNO QUEEN! ?

Started off so well, was run into the ground, still the occasional flash of genius.

>>34902434
I was making a reference to Megamind.

The fuck is Techno queen?

>>>34901513
Its pretty awesome but you need to know the Sandman story to know the initial status quo.
Also, fuck that one character whobis essentially ultimate mary sue...hate her.
Anon, shit I havent read that one yet...how many volumes do I stikl have after Elaine talkas with the guy in the bowler hat?

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>>34902575
You can wing it. It's self-contained suffciently.

But after reading it, give Sandman a try.

>>34902649
>Sandman

oh boy i wasn't ready for those feels

>>34901981
I feel like I have disgraced the glory that is DOOM

>>34897661
No. Capeshit usually sucks

>>34898002
That's just...so stupid... Why do comics feel the need to power level everything?

>>34902681
No one is. And honestly, it gets better on a second read.

>>34902725
really? damn I should get my ass out to buy the Omnibus

>>34902703
Yes anon but the time is doom is past and all that left is our eternal shame ;.;

>>34900457
Second best to Richards on the Science front. Pym, Stark, Banner, etc are all second rate compared to the bullshit science mastery of Mr Fantastic.
Magic, he's probably closer to tenth or twentieth among humans. But he uses science to enhance his magic so he is pretty damn good.
Eldritch Knowledge is just an aspect of magic. We really should stick to comparing him to humans, anyways.
Alien Knowledge? Nova? He's just got an encyclopedia living in his helmet.
Wealth? Not sure. You might be right on this one.
He is nowhere near that high on the physical/martial arts scales. Iron Fist himself is probably 3rd or so on the list, after Shang Chi and Prince of Orphans.

>>34902829

Eh, fantastic is...variable...on the science front. He's really good at discoveries, really shitty at implementation. Pym and Stark all make fantastic use of the stuff they develop, Fantastic is pretty shit at using it in creative ways generally. He makes a thing for a task and that's all it's for. He's a better researcher but a much worse engineer.

He's smart but he lacks the creativity of stark or the sheer 'In the Zone' factor Pym gets when he's in his mad science place.

All have a reasonable claim for #1 in their own way.

Authoritarian version of Captain America (as in mouthpiece for political wank), nothing special.

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>all these people worshiping Doom
>nobody worshiping Luke Cage
Y'all motherless sons of witches need more Cage in your lives

>>34903073
Luke Cage is a badass man, no doubt.

>>34902859
So Doom is the #2 Scientist (To Richards) and the #2 Engineer (To Stark). Pym is occasionally brilliant enough to be better but otherwise everything goes wrong.

I like Doom best when he's an egotistical despot who rules with an iron fist and comes to blows with heroes for perceived slights against his honor.

I dislike Doom the misunderstood hero who would be mankind's savior if not for the dastardly Fantastic Four.

I loathe Doom the cackling madman who tortures kittens for fun.

Fuck you Mark Waid.

>>34903152

Pym has the issue that he's insane. Not in a comic books sort of way (most of the time) but actually has serious issues. When he's either completely batshit or actually has hold of his life, he's brilliant and call him #1 then. He just has trouble getting in the zone due to serious issues.

Banner is smart but I wouldn't honestly put him in the running with Richards, Doom, Pym and Stark.

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>>34903152
>#2 Scientist (To Richards)
Depend of the point of view

>>34897661

Imagine the looks someone would get making that character in game.

>I'm going to be a super scientist
>He's close rivals with the best in the world
>AND he's one of the world's best sorcerors
>AND he rules his own nation
>In different realities he won already but got bored which is why there's a chance he can fail in this one

>>34903318
You don't get to make BBEGs in regular games.

He's clearly meant to be the final challenge for a team.

>>34901994
Yeah, that's the way I see it. Old Russians are making war to hang on to what they already own (Sevastopol), old Americans are saber-rattling in memory of the old Rocky and Bullwinkle days of knowing exactly who and where the Bad Guys are.

>>34903296
Wasn't the confirmed to be Lokie messing with Pym?

>>34903318

In the GURPS Unofficial Handbook of the MARVEL UNIVERSE REBOOT EDITION
He's:

808 points
Attributes: ST 12 [20]; DX 12 [40]; IQ 15 [100]; HT 12 [20].
Secondary Characteristics: Dmg 1d-1/1d+2; BL 29 lbs; HP 12 [0]; Will 15 [0]; Per 15 [0]; FP 12 [0]; Basic Speed 6.00 [0]; Basic
Move 6 [0]; Dodge 10.
Languages: English (Accented) [2]; Greek (Accented) [2]; Hungarian (Native) [4]; Latin (Accented) [2]; Latverian (Native) (Native
Language) [0]; Romanian (Native) [4]; Russian (Accented) [2]; Serbian (Native) [4].
Cultural Familiarities: Balkan (Native) [0]; Western [1]
Advantages: Appearance (Attractive) [4]; Charisma 3 [15]; Combat Reflexes [15]; Gadgeteer [25]; High Manual Dexterity +3 [15];
High TL +3 [15]; Language Talent [10]; Legal Immunity (Diplomatic Immunity) [20]; Mathematical Ability 4 [20]; Ritual Magery
0 [5]; Social Regard (Respected) 3 [15]; Status 7 [20]*; Unfazeable [15]; Wealth (Multimillionaire 2) [100].
Disadvantages: Bully (9) [-15]; Callous [-5]; Code of Honor (Gentleman's) [-10]; Compulsive Rhetoric (12) [-5]; Jealousy [-10];
Megalomania [-10]; Obsession: Destroy Reed Richards (short-term goal) (9) [-7]; Obsession: Gain Ultimate Power (long-term
goal) (9) [-15]; Selfish (6) [-10]; Stubbornness [-5].
Quirks: Chauvinistic [-1]; Third-Person [-1]; Vain: Believes a minor scar on his face detracts from his looks [-1].
Skills: Administration (A) IQ-1 [1] – 14; Alchemy/TL11 (VH) IQ+0 [8] – 15; Artist (Painting) (H) IQ-2 [1] – 13; Artist (Sculpting)
(H) IQ-2 [1] – 13; Battlesuit (A) DX+3 [12] – 15; Beam Weapons/TL11 (Pistol) (E) DX+2 [4] – 14; Boxing (A) DX-1 [1] – 11;
Diplomacy (H) IQ+0 [4] – 15†; Fast-Talk (A) IQ+0 [2] – 15†; Innate Attack (Beam) (E) DX+2 [4] – 14; Intelligence
[144] – 25; Musical Instrument (Violin) (H) IQ-2 [1] – 13; Psychologist! (WC) IQ+0 [24] – 15; Public Speaking (A) IQ+3 [2] –
18‡; Rapier Sport (A) DX-1 [1] – 11; Ritual Magic (Hermetic) (VH) IQ-2 [2] – 13;

>>34905374
IQ+10 [144] – 25§.
Magic Ritual Paths: Path of Knowledge (VH) IQ-3 [1] – 12; Path of Meta-Spells (VH) IQ-3 [1] – 12; Path of Protection & Warning
(VH) IQ-3 [1] – 12.
Starting Spending Money: $40,000,000 (20% Starting Wealth)
* Includes +3 from Wealth
† Conditional +3 from Charisma
‡ Includes +3 from Charisma
§ Conditional +4 from Mathematical Ability
Role-Playing Notes:
Doctor Doom's Battlesuit
Doctor Doom's battlesuit provides the following traits:
* DR 50 (Hardened 5)
* Lifting ST +36
* Striking ST +36
* Doesn't Breathe
* Flight with Enhanced Move (Air) 2
* Hyperspectral Vision
* Ladar
* Radar (Low-Probability Intercept; Multi-Mode; Targeting)
* Radio
* Sealed
* Telescopic Vision 3
* Electrical

>>34905363
Nope. Loki claimed to have done that just to fuck with Pym's head, but that was while he was strapped to a god-trap Pym designed and built that held him prisoner and drained his powers, rendering him mortal and easy to torture for information. Loki would have said anything to get out. He even begged Thor for help.

I genuinely feel that he's a lot less of an asshole than Reeds. At least Doom has redeeming qualities.

>>34901821
That wasn't a possible future

>>34901843
This. Ben is the only interesting and likable Fantastic Four member.

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>>34907344

>>34899130
If you were a superhero, could you just roll up to Doom's office and ask to work for him? Because that sounds like the best plan.

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>>34907395
Johnny has his moments

>>34907443
Meh, that seems as generic as a last stand moment can get.

>>34900600
Depending on the writer. Sometimes he grabs the villain ball.

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>>34907403

>>34900211

>dabbler in magic
>has not yet mastered any exact discipline
>tends to draw upon extradimensional sources

You clearly know nothing about Doom.

>>34902199
Holy shit.... this is the realm of Gods!

>>34907801
God damn Doom. You do not fuck around.

>>34901203
> demands absolute obedience while technically allowing free will
> threatens disproportionately severe penalties for minor crimes

That doesn't sound like Satan, anon. That sounds like the other guy. With the beard, and the hoard of Jews

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Huh, it's becoming clear to me that Doom is a pre-enlightenment Rand al'Thor. The dragon of his own age so to speak.

>>34897956
whut?

>>34900785
I've often tried to equate Luthor with Doom, but overall I don't think it really works because Doom is basically a good guy (with an ego problem) that's held back by his inability to accept responsibility for his disfigurement and mother's imprisonment, and subsequent scapegoat hatred of Richards.

Luthor on the other hand is basically just a big bag of dicks that occasionally does something good for the world. He claims he hates Superman because he's turned evil before and if he were to again he could wreak untold destruction but it's really out of simple, petty jealousy.

And let's not forget that he is a serial rapist.

>>34909242
And he stole 40 cakes.

>>34909297
Thats as many as four tens
And thats terrible

>>34909242
To be fair to Doom. Richards is kinda a dick too.

>>34909384
Richards deseres to get a lot of shit but it is utterly seperate from dooms hangup on richard

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>>34907395
>>34907443
A Sue is fine too.

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>>34907344
I am an enormous Doom fanboy and I still hate that scene. I always loved that Doom played by the consistent rules of the marvel universe and was still powerful, and then here he is, just completely ignoring someone's power because "Hur Dur I'm a badass"

>>34907801
Wasn't Valeria his mother's name?

>>34901951
You clearly know NOTHING about the Big T or his followers.

>>34909794
It's not like it's the only time he pulls shit like that. Having lodes of willpower to counteract shit is common enough anyways.

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>>34909733
>Error: You must wait 2 minutes 38 seconds before posting a duplicate reply.

What the fuck?

>>34909794
>>34909833
And in the Marvel Zombies, his willpower is great enough to actually not succumb to the zombie plague.

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>>34909871

>>34901821
Of course fucking not, because that was an actual thing that happened in the comics a number of time and they both got fucking sick of each other because their pride isn't the main issue, their ETHICS are.

Even if Doom did bring about united world peace through an iron fist he'd still be a fucking hyper dictator and do shit that seemed evil and maddening. For example- once he rules one world do you think he'd be satisfied with just that? Or would he make a fucking time machine so he can make sure every possible future is the one where he rules to prevent people attempting to stop him?

We all know it's the second, and that is what causes his hubris and continuation as a villain.

>>34909297
>>34909363
My niggas.

>>34909892
>>34909871
>>34909771
I actually like this. A comic that deals with the living part of having a family in a world of that craziness.

I don't always need to see the normal day to day parts of my heroes, but for marvel it makes sense, and it's good to see it.

Reed is still a douche

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>>34897725
>>34897754
See, it's that last panel that causes problems for him being the good guy.

>>34911167
Me too. The whole series is really nice, as is Alias.

Alias: http://www.tusfiles.net/v2dxteosq549

The Pulse:
http://www.tusfiles.net/1yo4ipdqxfgq
http://www.tusfiles.net/gmoeiap0hqin
http://www.tusfiles.net/yhl0gt3p9wov
http://www.tusfiles.net/5j37q5glkutw
http://www.tusfiles.net/v31bl7jcely2
http://www.tusfiles.net/e08dd9wl088i
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http://www.tusfiles.net/c9rnveaw0mti
http://www.tusfiles.net/mczgn4qj6cwl
http://www.tusfiles.net/hnxnwfh615a8
http://www.tusfiles.net/s8qylnzdh2kk
http://www.tusfiles.net/pnau6xsjggj5
http://www.tusfiles.net/p01bu8d7ze0x
http://www.tusfiles.net/0a6vnl545m7n

Be advised, tusfile is an asshole. Uncheck boxes and don't download .exes, or just use jdownloader in the first place

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>>34901096
Banner is the most moral scientist.
Tony is jealous at this point, but compared to everyone else, he's doing well.
Hank.. well..

>>34911510
What did he do to piss off the Watcher?

>>34911596
He broke time, I think

>>34900873
-Ultimately leading to Earth's destruction and the perpetuation of an absurd time-loop.

>>34902829
Pym beat Richards in a Science-Off competition between them over who was the better scientist.

>>34909822
His mother's name was Cynthia.
Valeria was his childhood friend/sweetheart.

>>34911282
Just because you can be considered Lawful Evil doesn't mean you can't be the good guy.

>>34911510
It's been implied that Hank did something really truly bad with the whole O5 thing. Theories abound. Haven't checked in a few months, not sure if any new info has emerged.

>>34901096
>Tony
>Moral
You forgetting civil war?
He built a fucking conentration camp for superhumans together with Richards.

>>34902829
>>34902859
Hank is Scientist Supreme, which is science version of Dr Strange, who is Sorcerer Supreme, which means that Pym can create technology on similar level to Strange's magic.

Reed Richards, on the other hand, is the most intelligent idiot on the planet Earth.

>>34912597
Also the biggest douchebag.

Would you use Doom as a BBEG

>>34912698
>instant TPK
No.

>>34912597
>the most intelligent idiot on the planet Earth
I'll admit this made me giggle
If Doom and Richards swapped who would do better?

>>34912891
>implying Doom isn't always better than Richards

>>34912891
Doom, obviously. HIS ship would actually have proper coating.

>>34912664
At least Pym had emotional problems when he tended to slap his wife. And he overcame all those tendencies and became a better man.

Richards, on the other hand... I'm pretty sure there was that one time when he slapped her because he wanted to do science or something like that.

>>34912955
Hank only hit her the one time, and it was a miscommunication between artist and author in the first place

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>>34912982
And yet, people can't let it go.

>>34913073
In fairness for some reason he is a wife beater in I think Marvel Ultimates?
Its like his main character trait and it sucks
Much like Dr Light is only known as a rapist or as a joke villain which are both retarded

>>34913127
Dr Light? The only Dr Light I know is the one who got raped by Raven in the first Teen Titans cartoon.

>>34912955
Pym fucked up. It was bad, it was a fuck up. But he recognized it as a fuck up and tried to make it better.

All the super scientists of marvel fuck up, but that's a human failing, and you try to forgive those. Because even the best people fail sometimes.

Richards, he refuses to admit that he fucked up, or that he might fuck up in the future. And that makes him insufferable.

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>>34913113
Hey, I still treat it as his mental issues back then, so I forgive him.

Richards, on the other hand...

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>>34913218
Exactly. Hank Pym is a man decent enough to acknowledge his failings and work to fix them.

>>34913159
Yup
He used to fight the JLA and be a serious threat
Then he became a joke character
Then it was retconned that he was a rapist who was mind wiped to become harmless by Zatanna

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>>34913259
I still wonder how Reed managed to live that long. His own teammates should team up with Doom to deal with this shithead.

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>>34913299
It could explain why Sue Storm of Earth 1720 became Madam Hydra. And frankly, I think that green suits her.

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>>34913659
>Richards autosages a Doom thread

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>>34900368
Richards does do some crazy stuff (like all modern heroes due to the incompetence at editorial , the writers at understanding just wtf they made a character do, and Marvel deliberately making a comic suck because angry readers buy more comics because they pick one up to see if it really is as horrible as they heard.
I mean spider-man sold his marriage to the fucking devil.
Quesada has the gall to claim Peter "won" despite Peter getting an express ticket to hell,the loss of the one true and most happy thing in his life when everything else goes to shit, several of his support cast essentially being lobotomized(black cat literally lost 2 decades of character development in one go),

616 Richards may be questionable but he's not quite evil. He's unique among the multiverse reeds because his father won that multiversal alternate self deathmatch so he know she has family to ground him.
All of the other Reeds crack at the first major bit of stress and go full evil/insane.

>>34901096
>Tony
>Moral
Bullshit. He has multiple evil future selves.
The current Tony isn't even the original one because Marvel had to replace him after his latest change to evil villain.
At least Reed Richards and the concentration camps was due to a lack of a spine after seeing what McCarthyism did to his uncle and worrying that the same thing would happen to his friends.
Tony just outright thought it was a great idea.

>>34914100
Which of the Reeds had marvelous idea of using vibranium as power source in power plants he placed all over the world to give free power?
Because that didn't required much time to fuck up.

Dear Reed Richards:
Stick to the theories. Practice is a job for engineers, and you ain't one.
Sincerely, any other person capable of thinking about risk of implementing their creations.

>>34913218
Can someone post the page where Reed is telling the story about how the FF got their powers to one of his babies?
It's probably the most humble he has ever been.

>>34914247
Narrative causality. Whenever he tries to do something major it gets fucked up by others or repurposed so he never lets shit out. He made a small scale terraforming device to solve world hunger(starting in Africa) and it got turned into a WMD.

Reed can't even sell off his clothing without it being repurposed for evil. An old "4" patch got grabbed by some criminals and made into a storage device of EEEVIL in a daredevil comic.
Richards is understandably paranoid as shit about anything and everything he invents.
Shit man. Reed can't even have sex without it possibly going wrong.
>"Invent" a baby
>It's a multiversal reality warper that threatens to end all of existence each day if he thinks the wrong stray thought

>>34914695
Pretty sure vibranium failure was inevitable thing. Though it's been time since I read it.

You mean the kid he once railgunned his mind?
I wonder if he didn't actually thought something akin to "hey, it actually works!"

And if he's so afraid of his son doing something dangerous... Well... >>34913259

>>34900873
>No, Injustice was dogshit as a game and the plot seemed more out of Liefeld than anything.
I think he was talking about the comic. I gotta agree that the game plot was dogshit though. Superman is/was basically mid tier in-universe and suddenly the dozens if not hundreds of beings on Earth that can take him out don't do shit?

>>34914785
I'm fairly sure that was either after he lobotomized Franklin's brain to depower him with a laser or when a bunch of shenanigans were happening but being a dick doesn't mean he's evil. It just means he's a dick and/or he had a reason to do so. Like for instance the reality warper was about to form a thought turning a person into a monster about to kill his uncle?

>>34901412

>put on mask while it was still hot, scarring his visage forever

wait why the fuck

>>34915366
>Waiting
>Like a peasant?
>DOOM takes orders from no man!

>>34915508
>implying Doom is subject to such faults as impatience

>>34915834
Doom didn't cared about scarring his face, for Doom's face was already scarred.

>>34915834
That's literally how it happened. If i could be bothered i'd even find the page to properly quote it.

>>34915925
This page? >>34901740
Though I think I have read that part about him doing it because he decided to not wait till it will cool down.