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You are KARLA WEISS, a Belkan fighter pilot looking to carve your own place in the skies!

Yesterday, you had just recently intercepted an enemy bomber wave headed for your base, and managed to destroy all the bombers and chase off their escorts before they could get anywhere close to their target. However, even though the attack was thwarted, it looked like the higher ups were spooked, judging from this new briefing that's been hastily organized. You see Samantha setting up her materials.

Meanwhile, the room was already full of pilots, though you notice it was slightly emptier. You remember that one of the allied squadrons, Knife Squadron, lost two fighters during the defense operation.

There was also Alpha squadron, that was late to the party. However, you were aware at least a few of them were boasting that their presence precluded a second attack wave. An assertion that had zero proof whatsoever.

And of course, your own wingmates were present, in very cheerful moods due to yesterday's success. Plus, you all had a batch of fresh kills under your belt.

>Talk to Knife Squadron
>Talk to Alpha
>Talk to your wingmates.
>Wait for the briefing to start.
>Other
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>>35882392
>>Talk to Knife Squadron
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>>35882392
>Talk to your wingmates.
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>>35882392
>>Talk to Knife Squadron
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>>35882392
>Talk to your wingmates.
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>>35882392
>>Talk to Knife Squadron
Kick the tires and light the fires!
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>>35882392
>>Other
Are there doughnuts? Get some doughnuts.
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>>35882449
We can't do that. We ain't on a patrol beat man. And we don't have a police cruiser.
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>>35882392
>>Talk to Knife Squadron
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Merc I would like to talk to you about the extreme lack of realism in the air combat here, we should be having extended posts that describe the monotony of level and straight flight for three hours before we even reach the kill box, and also I am frankly still disturbed at how an F-4 Phantom was able to match an F-22 clearly you have to do some more research with your quests because this isn't realistic at all

also i am positively disturbed the unreasonable loadouts being described here we don't even seem to be using actual weapons, but rather are using some sort of anime-bullshit do-everything long-ranged faggot-seekers, we're in a phantom for fuckssake why aren't we flying straight at our targets for a solid minute trying to guide in Sparrows that have a 70+ percent chance to miss their targets.

Otherwise, p.good quest 9/10 it's okay

Also:

>Talk to your wingmates.

PS WHERES THE TARIN
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>>35882465
We're in a briefing room.I figure it's the morning after. Totally should be coffee and doughnuts.
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>>35882517
Have you played an Ace Combat game before?
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>>35882517
Oh calm down feelthy, it's Strangereal. Things like this happen on the regular here.
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hornet plz go
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>>35882392
>>Talk to your wingmates.
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>>35882517
Well good to see you here, I guess.
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>>35882392
Does this quest follow one of the decendants from Valkyrian Mercs Quest?
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>>35882566
Hell, how many wars happen within the span of a freakin' decade in Strangereal and how long do they last? What like less than a year on average.
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>>35882517
All that needs to be said on the matter is Ace Combat. While I enjoy playing Falcon, Ace Combat is also fine. Two very different beasts. Both are fantastic.
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>>35882517
In Ace Combat games.. it's arcade flight.. you typically have 60-80 missiles on ANY Given aircraft. Hell people have fucking helicarriers and giant cannons that destroy nations.
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>>35882517
don't you have porn to write?
also >>35882392
>Talk to your wingmates.
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>>35882601
Indeed. They basically use the One Year War as a strategic model.
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>>35882615
I know what Ace Combat is, I just was making fun of that one anon who was flipping out over realism the other day.
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>>35882566
>>35882569
>>35882581
>All these anons missing the joke.
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>>35882392
>Talk to your wingmates.
>>35882517
>Arguing about realism
>In an Ace Combat Quest
I sincerely hope you're joking
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>>35882639
Oh...ok.jpg
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>>35882559
>>35882566
>>35882569
>>35882615
your all a bit slow
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>>35882633
Hell, the Belkan War, the war that was one of the BIGGEST conflicts in Strangereal lasted for only like a few months! From March to June (officially) and December 25-31 (AWWNB)
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>One Year War as a strategic model.
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>>35882639
Well... I guess I owe an apology.

>mfw
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>>35882668
>/tg/
>Actually thinking
Pick one
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>>35882640
> implying i missed the joke
> implying hornet's humor isn't a shit
> implying he shouldn't go back to writing feelz rollercoaster
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>>35882640
Oi, why I'm being lumped with those people when I said it was kinda nice to see him...
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>>35882692
Templates like that are forbidden!

>>35882672
Well I figured they have some similarities, like first few months would be swarming and antagonistic advantage, new blood leveling out the score in the middle of the conflict, and a decisive prototype vs superweapon duel in teh last part.
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You turn to your wingmates. You felt it would be too awkward just sitting there silent the whole time.

"Hey, guys." You say. "Don't you think yesterday's attack was kind of... strange?"

"What do you mean?" Lara blinked. "I had to defend airbases from attack ALL THE TIME."

"Yeah, well, I didn't." You shake your head and sigh. "But don't you think it was incredibly convenient for the enemy that they just HAPPENED to attack when we were at our weakest?"

"When you put it that way..." Lilian frowns. "That does seem rather strange."

"Hmph. Just overthinking things." Amy shakes her head.

"Still..." You frown, obviously still troubled. "That must mean there's a spy here."

"Probably." Lilian nods. "But I'm sure you're not the only one to catch on. I'm sure Command is working on it, too."

>Yeah, I guess we can leave the spy hunting to the pros.
>We should find that spy ourselves.
>Other
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>>35882782
>Yeah, I guess we can leave the spy hunting to the pros.
Any Halloween specials?
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>>35882782
>>Yeah, I guess we can leave the spy hunting to the pros.
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>>35882782
>Yeah, I guess we can leave the spy hunting to the pros.
We're a pilot. We fly planes. Act Stoic.
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>>35882782
>Yeah, I guess we can leave the spy hunting to the pros.
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>>35882782
>>We should find that spy ourselves.
Alright, someone hand me a Backblower!
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>>35882782
>Yeah, I guess we can leave the spy hunting to the pros.
And by pros I mean not!British spies with a thing for maids
>>35882726
No, that's just how all fictional wars are fought
Elves sing, Dwarves drink, wars are decided by recruits with attitude blowing up superweapons that cost the GDP of at least three countries
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>>35882782
>We should find that spy ourselves.
>Other
"They might resort to sabotage next, so we better keep a close eye on our planes. Those might be the potential next target."
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>>35882803
All I know is that our idols are probably trick or treating, then watching a GOAT horror movie, and ending with them riffing on B-list horror movies.
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>>35882782
>>Other
We should give command a hand in finding out the spy.
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>>35882782
>>We should find that spy ourselves.
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>>35882782
>>Yeah, I guess we can leave the spy hunting to the pros.

BUT

Perhaps we should bring this up someone ourselves. Things could have gone really badly, really fast.
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>>35882782
>>Yeah, I guess we can leave the spy hunting to the pros.
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>>35882824
God, the governments of Strangereal must really crack the whip on their taxpayers to fund all of this crap...
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>>35882782
>>Yeah, I guess we can leave the spy hunting to the pros.

We are in no way qualified for this.
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>>35882872
Either that, or all those Ulysses fragments are mostly composed of rare metals, gold, and other pricey stuff
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>>35882824
>And Sakuya?
>Yes, mr. Bond?
>Shaken, not stirred, please.
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>>35882782
>>Yeah, I guess we can leave the spy hunting to the pros.
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You guys do realize the number one suspect for being a spy is Karla, right?
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>>35882922
She's Belkan she's too proud to spy.
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>>35882897
>Chrono Miner reporting for duty!
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>>35882897
Well Estovakia don't seem to think the same. Maybe if they didn't decide to use taxpayer's money to fund the Aigaion and support craft, then maybe, the Estovakians would have some semblance of a normal life.
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>>35882905
Wrong not!Brit
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>>35882940
Normal life and a stable economy...
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>>35882905
Wrong Brit. Please read VMQ.
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>>35882940
10 year long civil wars tend to make such policies difficult
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"Yeah, I guess we can leave the spy hunting to the pros." You lean back in your chair. "I don't know the first thing about spycraft."

Huh, maybe you should've paid more attention to your uncle's lectures about the subject. But.... it was too late for that now.

"Okay everybody, quiet down!" Samantha yells to grab everybody's attention. "The briefing is starting now!"

On cue, the lights dim and the projector activates, showing a new tactical map of a large island chain.

"As most of you already know, the rebels attempted to bomb our base yesterday. Thanks to efforts of our pilots, though, we managed to intercept and destroy the enemy force."

Of course she wouldn't name you all specifically. You guess so as not to inflate your egos or anything like that.

"Now, thanks to surviving personnel we managed to capture, as well as data we managed to recover from the wrecks of the bombers and AWACS craft, we've found out that the rebels' airbase is located in this island chain." Samantha points to the tactical map. "The problem is, we don't know which island it is. Command has determined that it's too dangerous to send in recon planes, so we'll have to wait for Yuktobania or Osea to route a spy satellite to the location. What we CAN do, however, is to slowly choke them to death."

Samantha then shifts the map to the west, where Estovakia's shore is visible. There are also a number or red lines going from the mainland to the island chain.

"We believe the rebels on the islands are being directly supplied by sympathizers in the northern territories, both by sea and air. We'll be tasked with interdicting these supply convoys and hopefully weaken the rebels before we stage a full attack."

"What sort of resistance can we expect?" One of the pilots asks.

(cont)
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"Nothing that we haven't faced before." Samantha says somewhat vaguely. "But we do have unconfirmed reports that the rebels have hired their own mercenaries to bolster their forces, so stay on guard. With that said, we will begin distributing flightplans for each squadron. You'll all have specific areas to patrol."

With that, attendants begin walking down the aisles with sealed folders, each bearing a specific squadron's name. Lara collects your flight's folder and tears it open.

"Aw nuts." She frowns.

"What's wrong?" Lilian asks.

"We got the nothernmost route." Lara sighs. "Cold weather and bad visibility all around. It's gonna be a real shitshow."

"Oh dear... in the Demon Edges?" Lilian frowns.

"Huh?" Amy blinks.

>Demon Edges?
>Oh fuck no.
>I'm not afraid of that place.
>Other
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>>35883221
>>Demon Edges?
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>>35883221
>>Demon Edges?
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>>35883221
>Demon Edges?
dredging up the Hrimfaxi's remains when Merc?
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>>35883221
>>Demon Edges?
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>>35883221
>The Razgriz retired, ladies, we'll be fine.
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>>35883221
>Demon Edges?

>Huh, maybe you should've paid more attention to your uncle's lectures about the subject

She's a sleeper agent!
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>>35883221
We fucking flew under the Razgriz.. why would we worry about them?
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>>35883278
Get out of here Carlos
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>>35883294
Karla only flew with them for like, one actual mission, which was the Sand Island defense. By the time she recovered, the 108th was already "KIA".
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>>35883221
>>Demon Edges?
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>>I'm not afraid of that place.
A gallant knight is always ready to face her fears! Now whip out the holy hand grenade!

>we do have unconfirmed reports that the rebels have hired their own mercenaries to bolster their forces

PIIIIIXXXXXYYYYYY
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>>35883221
>>Demon Edges?
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Okay, so lemme get this straight....

>The Razgriz Legend is popular in Osea and Yukotobania.
>The Razgriz Straits are located North of Emmeria, the place where the Demon was believed to come from
>A Blue Dove for the Princess is a Belkan Fairy Tale that mentioned Razgriz.
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>>35883221
>I'm not afraid of that place.
>...much.
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>>35883329
Like the Generals really have a cause worthy enough for him to follow
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>>35883329
I think he's still trying to figure out what MUH BORDERS mean.
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>>35883349
Other cultures stealing and mutilating fairy tales. Sound accurate.

Snow white you think Disney. Now go look up the German folk tail.
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>>35883409
Well, uhh....

Phoenix then?
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>>35883474
My favorite plane :)
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>>35883474
Their business is shooting rebels, not helping them
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>>35883523
Russian planes are just fucking pretty. Wouldn't trust one over anything Western though.
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"The Demon Edges?" You frown. "You mean the place where-"

"Where the Demons of Razgriz supposedly came from, yes." Lilian nods. "But not only that, but the area has a rather terrible reputation where many ships and aircraft that dare venture into that area never return. That's partly how the first myths started."

>Yeah, I'm pretty sure that place really is haunted.
>Don't be silly. There's a perfectly rational explanation.
>Other
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>>35883550
>Don't be silly. There's a perfectly rational explanation.
Like Wardog being Wardog
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>>35883550
>Don't be silly. There's a perfectly rational explanation.
SCARED.JPG
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>>35883550
>Don't be silly. There's a perfectly rational explanation.
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>>35883550
>>Don't be silly. There's a perfectly rational explanation.

They're just disturbing the peace is all!
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>>35883550
>Don't be silly. There's a perfectly rational explanation.
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>>35883550
>>Don't be silly. There's a perfectly rational explanation.
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>>35883550
>Other
"Make sure to write me into your wills, I need the money."
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>>35883550
>Yeah, I'm pretty sure that place really is haunted.
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>>35883572
SCARED, you say?

>http://comic.naver.com/webtoon/detail.nhn?titleId=350217
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>>35883550
>Don't be silly. There's a perfectly rational explanation.
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Is this where we might find Knight Puncher?

Will love bloom on the battlefield?
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>>35883550
>>Don't be silly. There's a perfectly rational explanation.
SCIENCE
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>>35883616
Seen that before.
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>>35883616
Seen it. You gotta try harder than that.
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Yep, Karla is completely skeptical of all myths, legends, and superstitions.

When the Demon Lord of the Round Table is mentioned though....
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>>35883642
Not for you, Otacon.
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>>35883616
Is that the one with the possessed scrollbar?
>>35883672
That's because the Demon Lord is very much real
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>>35883550
>>Other
"Pffffft. next you'll say there is four F-14s in black and red tail sighted there"
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>>35883682
I don't get the reference.
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>>35883704
>Will love bloom on the battlefield
>Otacon
>His love ever living
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>>35883704
In Hiimdaisy's Let's Destroy Metal Gear!, Otacon asks the question to Snake like in the game.

Snake replies with the abovementioned quote, causing otacon to sulk.
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>>35883721
>>35883743
I feel stupid but my point still stand.
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>>35883725
Whose kid is that? Quattre's or Peacecraft's?
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>>35883743
where can i find hiimdaisy archives now?
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If I recall, the Ace Combat series has superplanes or something like that. Wish I had saved the image with them.

Will we see those planes?
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>>35883771
Well there's the video that contains all the MGS stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YH3o2pf-Bc
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>Hasn't read hiimdaisy
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>>35883771
I'm not sure. Just google man.
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>>35883783
Wasn't it the Falken or Vulcen or something like that?
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>>35883783
If Merc not even show us Falken, i'll get Ghost's puppies to chew him. And maybe get Mouse's TATP
(yeah, strikers 89 reference here, sorry)
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>>35883725
That's Naina from GW: Frozen Teardrop http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/Naina_Peacecraft
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"There's a perfectly rational explanation for all those disappearances." You sigh. "There's poor weather and visibility up there, so of course incidents are far more likely. Also, statistically, the northern waters aren't even all that dangerous. Other regions suffer more accidents. Plus, a majority of the existing reports are either inaccurate, embellished, or plain made up."

"Hah, I knew it." Amy nods, reassured.

"Well aren't you a party pooper." Lara pouts. God, it looks like she really wanted to believe those waters were supernatural!

"Well, I was just pointing it out." Lilian smiles ambivalently.

"Anyways, we gotta get ready to take off soon." Lara checks her watch. "Wanna get anything done first?"

>I want to see what Quint has to sell, first.
>Let's head for the hangar.
>Other
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>>35883849
>>I want to see what Quint has to sell, first.
Let's try to advance a generation.
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>>35883849
>>I want to see what Quint has to sell, first.
Capitalism, HO!

>>35883828
-Falken
-Wvyern
-Nightraven or soemething like that
-Nosferatu
-Shinden II kai
-Morgan
i might miss something, but every Ace title have its own superplane.
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>>35883849
>>Let's head for the hangar.
We probably won't have enough to buy anything worth it until after this mission.
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>>35883849
>I want to see what Quint has to sell, first.
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>I want to see what Quint has to sell, first.
See if we can get something that can actually maneuver
>>35883852
Pic related
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>>35883849
>>I want to see what Quint has to sell, first.
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>>35883849
>>I want to see what Quint has to sell, first.

PLANES
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>>35883849
>>Let's head for the hangar.
I hope the team has our new paint job done.
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>>35883849
>>Let's head for the hangar.
did they finish painting our Phabulous Phantom yet?
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>>35883895

Personally far more partial to the Delphinius line
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>>35883852
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>>35883846
>Frozen Teardrop

While I'm not a Wing fanboy, I kinda hate that manga. Maybe because of how the older characters went about after Waltz.
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>>35883849
>>I want to see what Quint has to sell, first.
Time to wop out our wads.
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>>35883946
Even nostalgia filter can't save it.
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>>35883927
>Delphinus 3
>Not going for SEXY BLUE Delphinus 1

OkayIGuess.jpg
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>>35883967
Isn't in Teardrop the part where Relena and Heero were, uhhh...

"Frozen"?
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Glorious Belkan-made AD line all the way
Nosferatu's pretty cool too
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>>35884002
>Nosferatu's pretty cool too
We need the railgun. We're skilled in guns. Rail gun was more or less point and click.
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>>35884002
Man, I wish they'd implement the ADLER in some form in whatever AC continuity. Dat sexy, sexy bird...
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>>35884023
>AC continuity
Assault Horizon's.
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>>35884023
... with a special weapon that's supposed to basically be the Scinfaxi's ballistic missile mounted on a plane
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>>35884038
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa
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>>35884038
Okay, scratch that. Any continuity BUT THAT.

>douseitwithholywater.gif

>>35884041
My mind's machinations could only become so complex!!!
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>>35884038
First off, that's just AC in name only
Second, the Adler was never in AH, the only fictional planes there were the Shinden II and Nosferatu
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>>35883849
"I want to see what Quint has to sell, first." You say. "I actually got some spending money, so I might as well see what he's got."

"Sure!" Lara nods. "You go on ahead, then. We'll make sure Smokey gets your plane ready!"

"Thanks." You nod and split up with your squad, heading over the hangar that acted as Artemis' unofficial store. As always, Quint was there, legs up on a cargo crate as he read a magazine of presumably pornographic nature.

"Oh, hey there... Valkyrie, was it?" Quint grins. "Come to purchase something?"

"I'd like to see what you have available." You say noncommittally.

"Well, I've got wares as long as you have coin!" Quint chortles and hands you a catalog. "Here you go!"

SHOP LIST: http://pastebin.com/sBQuPLdw

You frown as you look through the catalog. You only had $3500 in your account right now. No way you could afford any of this. Quint seems to notice your frown, too.

"You know, if you've got trouble paying, we can arrange something..."

You instinctively recoil, dropping the catalog and clutching your arms close to your chest as you give Quint a nasty glare.

"What? No! Nothing like that!" Quint sputters. "What the hell made you think that?"

"You seem like that kind of person." You narrow your eyes.

"No, seriously, I'm not like that!" Quint shakes his head rapidly. "I hate spending money and girls are no exception!"

"Okay, so what are you proposing?" You raise an eyebrow.

"It's within my power to offer loans to our pilots, if they so wish to take one." Quint nods.

>Tell me more...
>No thanks, I don't like to be indebted.
>Other
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>>35884018

>all those planes

It's like the latest generation of fighters had a sticky, sweaty, Jager Bomb-fueled orgy and that squadron[s constituents are the mutant half-breeds born nine months later.
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>>35884194
>>No thanks, I don't like to be indebted.
Nope.
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>>35884194
>>No thanks, I don't like to be indebted.

The only thing I'd really want is a new plane, and we really shouldn't take out a loan that size.
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>>35884194
>>No thanks, I don't like to be indebted.
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>>35884194
>No thanks, I don't like to be indebted.
On the bright side, sinking ship convoys should get us plenty of dosh
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>>35884194
>>Tell me more...
Just tell me, but don;t get in debt for now.
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>>35884194
>no gripen

Disappointment forever.

>No thanks, I don't like to be indebted.
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>>35884194
>>No thanks, I don't like to be indebted.
Maybe later, but this guy probably charges interest like a mob boss.
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>>35884194
>>No thanks, I don't like to be indebted.
Okay, now we know the general price range.
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>>35884194

Delicious Fulcrum...
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>>35884194

>F16 and F18 up for sale

Ohh, how we need either of those. Or a Super Hornet.


>>No thanks, I don't like to be indebted.

The interest rates would kill us--and I douibt we'd make enough bank on our missions to pay them off in a timely matter anyhow.
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>>35884205
Strangereal Aeronautics engineers and designers, son.

>>35884194
>No thanks, I don't like to be indebted.
I'd like to stick to the old Boo, thank you very much.
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>>35884250
It'll show up in the catalog once we complete enough sorties, like in Ace Combat
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>>35884194
>No thanks, I don't like to be indebted.


F-18 or F-16 guys?
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>>35884194
>No thanks, I don't like to be indebted.
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>>35884194
>Tell me more...
we may as well find out what it entails, we don't have to say yes to it

also, fuck yes I want a Viggen
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>>35884194
>>No thanks, I don't like to be indebted.

Merc, how about the variants?

How do variants work? Do we need 'XP' on planes or we just order?

Or can we convert from the base plane?
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Hey guys, I just realized...

Amy's dad is the Warthog driver from Area 88, right?

If that's the case, when do we expect Shin Kazama and the rest of his squadron flying in this quest?
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>>35884294
I can only hope. She's a nice plane.
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>>35884304
Mig-29
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>>35884304

F-16XL
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>>35884294
Well that's slightly irritating.
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>>35884304
I'm open to both, though I admit that I have a thing for the Falcon.
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>>35884194
>Tell me more...
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>>35884277
>>35884304
I'd go for the hornet over the falcon

Also what the fuck it gives up speed?

The F/A-18 can reach a top speed of mach 1.8, whereas the Falcon's fastest variants have only reached mach 1.47
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>>35884315
If we can get variants, we might as well get the F-4X
A flying brick that can match the Blackbird in speed? Muh dick
>>35884332
Swedes make some real awesome planes, so glad they gave up nukes for the Viggen
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>>35884365
There are some stats that say the Falcon can go up to Mach 2.
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>>35884365
Not true. Falcon can go ~mach 2 at high altitude. Presumably with clean config.
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>>35884194
>SHOP LIST: http://pastebin.com/sBQuPLdw
Oh fuck yes a Viggen, we are totally saving up for that.

Although its odd how the Hornet is slower than the Falcon which is the opposite of what they are in real life...
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Anyone else a fan of sukhoi?
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>>35884426

Everyones a fan of sukhoi plane lines.

Thing is, Karla isn't.

So not on this quest.
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>>35884304
Viggen.

>>35884414
Only under very specific circumstances at high altitude with a specific configuration especially for high speed flight.

Which means that kitted out as a warbird it will never ever reach that.
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Can we get a Wyvern?
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>>35884426
Get out slavboo, this is Murrica and eurojet territory
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No Raptors or Lightning IIs?
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>>35884450
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>>35884365

I say next airframe is the Hornet, then the Eagle, then Strike Eagle when we can afford it. Then, after all that, even further down, get a Raptor, and then have the thread devolve into planesperging when it comes time we can afford the F-35.
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>>35884450
HELL NO!
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>>35884414
Yeah sure it can, when it's wearing nothing, has burnt most of its fuel, is rigged for high alt speed runs and is doing its best impression of a satellite rather than a warplane.

It is impossible for it to achieve those speeds with missiles and guns and fuel and avionics suites onboard, so in the context of this quest, it is literally impossible for it to fly that fast.
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>>35884448
Because a hornet will never carry any fuel tanks or ordnance and thus will always reach its top speed in any combat situation?
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>>35884365
I'd take the Falcon over the Hornet. The only reason the Navy chose the way they did was because they're obsessed with twin engines.
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>>35884466
Why not just get a Silent Eagle and call it a day.
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>>35884466
Why no Rafale, why
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>>35884466
Why would we go for an F-35 over a F-22?

And why would we go for the F-22 when we can get the YF-23?
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>>35884491

There is a good point about engine failure and all that.
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I want the Nosferatu so we can https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxnC6jkJyEM
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>>35884450
No.
We are Belkan, and only the glorious Belkan born Morgan/Falken/Adler is worthy to be our ultimate steed
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>>35884483
hornets can reach mach 1.6 with a full fuel load, the falcon can't get near that

>>35884491
twin engines is a fucking good thing, it means double redundancy and a more robust and safer plane in case we lose one, which we probably will at some point
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>>35884494
Because 4.5 gen a shit
>>35884500
But twin engine opens the floor to a host of other failures unique to twin engine. Plus single engine has done the job for years before they got obsessed with twin engine, at it will do the job in the future.
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We should probably go to the hangar now.
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>>35884304

A general consensus over the last couple of threads was aiming for a falcon.
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>>35884534
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>>35884491
>The only reason the Navy chose the way they did was because they're obsessed with twin engines.
>The only reason the Navy chose the way they did was because they don't want planes dropping out of the sky over the ocean with only one engine

Don't be retarded anon.
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>>35884516
>Frontier Missile Massacre
>Not glorious Ichijou Laser Tunnel Run and Beer Can Barrage
Tis better comrade.

>>35884498
All this talk about fifth-gens and I'm just waiting for the glorious Rafale...
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>>35884194
"No thanks. I don't like to be indebted." You shake your head. "And no offense, but I suspect you charge interest rates that rival the Mafia's."

"Ha! The Mafia's got NOTHING on me!" Quint laughs. "But it's your money, so no matter how much I want it, it's still yours to spend."

"Well, at least I have an idea of what I have to aim for." You sigh. "Take care, Quint."

"Hope to see you back again so we can conduct some actual business!" Quint chuckles and returns to his presumably pornographic magazine.

You meanwhile head back to the hangar, where your planes are already being prepped. There, you see Smokey, overlooking everything his crew was doing.

"Well, it took me and my boys all night." Smokey grunts. "But we did it. One freshly painted Phantom, ready to fly!"

And what a beauty it was. A vivid blue/grey with a feather pattern painstakingly painted on both the tops and bottoms of the wings. On the side of the nose and tailfin was the head of a Valkyrie painted in your likeness.

You have absolutely no clue how much work it took for them to get it done in such a short time.

"So what do you think?" Smokey says, puffing up with so much pride you swear he grew by several inches.

>I love it.
>Could be a bit bluer.. (joke)
>Kiss Smokey
>Other
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>>35884455

I for one would love an F22.

>>35884495

Because Rafale is guilty pleasure tier jetfu
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>>35884534

That it does. A-4 skyhawk <3

But the ability to limp home when a engine goes out is really really useful.
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>>35884567
>Could be a bit bluer.. (joke)
>I love it.
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>>35884567
>Could be a bit bluer.. (joke)
But in all seriousness
>I love it.
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>>35884567
>I love it.
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>>35884567
>I love it.
>Kiss Smokey
on the cheek
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>>35884567
>>I love it.
>>Kiss Smokey
On the cheek
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>>35884567
>>Kiss Smokey
smokey is mai husbando
We should buy booze for the ground crew later.
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>>35884567
>>I love it.
>Other
Hug the plane
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>>35884567
>>I love it.
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>>35884567
>>I love it.
>>35884574
we all would
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>>35884567
>I love it.
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>>35884609
This.
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I say we save up for the Saab 37 Viggen, and a AtA missile upgrade, and then work towards getting a F-15 variant, then aim towards the YF-23/F-22 Black Widow FTW
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>>35884567
>>Kiss Smokey
Give credit where it's due.
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>>35884528
>hornets can reach mach 1.6 with a full fuel load, the falcon can't get near that

Okay I'm lazy can you link the source?
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>>35884567
>>Kiss Smokey

What sorta gifts could we possibly give these guys? Champagne? Beer and smokes? Chocolate and cigarettes?
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>>35884647
She's dead, anon
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>>35884574
Muh Nigga.

>>35884585
A-4 is fine too... I'm lookin at you BamCo!!

>>35884567
>I love it.
>Kiss Smokey
Seriously, this guy deserves it.
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>>35884662

Buy a round for the guys
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>>35884567
>I love it.
>Kiss Smokey
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>>35884567
>I love it.
Fuck'n A. It's been less than a day right? These guys work fast.
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>>35884663
SHE CAN YET LIVE ON THROUGH US

She's better off as a specter of the skies, preying on those who believe she is truly dead, haunting the battlefields and watching over her comrades, fitting for a Valkyrie don't you think?
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>>35884702
Fuck yes that bird in our paint scheme would be amazing.

This we must get.
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>>35884702
Impressive.
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>>35884702
I'll follow her anywhere!

Although really, our status as a gunfighter makes the F-22 a better choice.
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>>35884702
Then shouldn't we pick the Grey Ghost scheme instead of her widow sister?
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>>35884567
>>Kiss Smokey
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>>35884751
Who says we can't put two M61's inside the Widow? this is an AC quest after all.
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>>35884772
Maneverability, anon.
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>>35884772
Better yet, give it MGPs as a special weapon
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>>35884775
Yeah, like we're the queen of that in a fucking missile truck...

We fly a fucking F-4 for fucks sake, and we gunfight fine in it, imagine how good we'd be in a Widow when we can do miracles in this flying brick?
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>>35884801
Imagine how much better we'd do in a F-22.
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>>35884567
>>35884619
seconded
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>>35884775
Have you looked at what we're flying and gunfighting in lately?

An F4 Phantom, nothing about it screams maneuverability anon.

Hell the YF-23 kind of plays to our strengths of how we fly our brick, fast and yet capable of insane maneuvers.

>>35884831
Not much
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I am sold on the widow as well
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>>35884850
If you can't see the advantage that extra maneuverability would have, I can't help you.
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>>35884860
Shut up Char, you made Icelina a widow (sort of) yourself!
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>>35884567
>>35884619
This

>>35884831
the Widow is has some similar traits to our Phantom in that its fast as fuck, and capable of crazy acrobatics with some insanity blended in, and seeing as this is an AC quest where speed will get us from objective to objective, like with our Phantom, I reckon the agility difference between the two would not be worth the loss in speed.

And besides that, it is just so goddamn sexy, only thing better looking would be the F-19A, but thats unlikely to show up.
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>>35884869
I can see it fine, it just ain't worth it to me in my opinion.

Widow for life.
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>>35884850
The YF-23 was shit. An F-35 would be better at everything it could try to do.
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>>35884905
Now the F-35 is fantastic, but it would lose AtA.
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>>35884905
Riiiight.

You know the only reason they went with the F-22 over the YF-23 was that they thought the advent of gen 5 stealth air dominance fighters would mean that everyone would be dogfighting at close range again.

That sure came about didn't it...
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Hell, maybe we should get an X-32. Just look how happy it is.
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>>35884937
Not to mention the possibility of a F-22 Navy variant.
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>>35884905
>An F-35 would be better at everything it could try to do.
>Glorified multirole gimped by its lacking stealth
>trying to be better than a true gen 5 airsup fighter

nigaa you best not be serious

>>35884947
that with our paint scheme would be funny as fuck
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>>35884947
>Chuckler
It's cute, I give it that.

>>35884956
>F-22 Sea Raptor

... Meh.
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>>35884963
>gimped by its lacking stealth
Uhhh
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>>35884956
And the Strike variant.

Both of which they decided they couldn't afford, nor want, only after they made the decision, based on the fact they wanted both...

Fucking Chair Force politics depriving the world of sexy planes
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>>35884891
The YF-23 lost to the F-22 because, specifically, it's maneuverability, or lack thereof, was considered a major drawback.

>>35884923
The 23 wasn't even on par with a Viper, something even the 35 can match up to.

>>35884937
Yes, just because there hasn't been a major war between roughly comparable foes means we should go back to the wonderful days of yore where we pretended that BVR would be how all major airbattles would be decided.

Protip: The most successful missile to date is the sidewinder, fired within visual range, typically after the pilot has OUT MANEUVERED THEIR OPPONENT, you fucking idiot.
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>>35884992
>The 23 wasn't even on par with a Viper
You're full of shit.
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>>35884956
Oh man if we ever see a swing wing naval Raptor, we should jump at the chance to get it immediately.

I'd almost pick that over a Widow.
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>>35885043
swing wing a shit
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>>35884567
"I love it!" You can't help but smile. Smokey and his guys did a real great job.

"Hah, warms my cold dead heart to hear a pilot say that." Smokey grins. "Now, you want to keep those 4AAMs, or would you like to switch to some other secondary weapon?"

"Just a sec." You turn to Lara, who was already settled into the cockpit of her Eagle. "What are we expecting out there?"

"Well..." Lara shrugs. "Cargo planes, fighters, maybe ships. Who knows?"

"Hmmm..." You pause.

>Stick with 4AAMs.
>Unguided Bombs
>Cluster Bombs
>Napalm
>Other
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>>35884992
Cmon guys, it's too early in the thread for a dispute over 5th-gens.
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>>35885055
>Stick with 4AAMs.
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>>35885055
>Stick with 4AAMs.
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>>35885055
>Cluster Bombs
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>>35885055
>>Unguided Bombs
Just to take on any potential ships.
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>>35885055
>>Unguided Bombs
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>>35885055
>>Napalm

NAPALM SHIPS
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>>35885055
>Napalm
We're going after supply convoys after all, and it just isn't a Phantom without the smell of napalm
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>>35884992
>The YF-23 lost to the F-22 because, specifically, it's maneuverability, or lack thereof, was considered a major drawback.
In the specific context of what they invisioned the plane would be doing, close range knifefighting with stealth.

Which renders the point invalid.
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>>35885055
>>Napalm
Duh, Belka.
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>>35885055
>>Stick with 4AAMs.
for ground target we have guns
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>>35885082
Cluster munitions won't kill ships. They CAN utterly wreck the ship's exposed electronics like radar or certain weapons systems as well as killing crew in the open.
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>>35885055
>Stick with 4AAMs.
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>>35885055
>>Unguided Bombs
We want to sink these buggers, you know.
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>>35885055
>>Stick with 4AAMs.
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>>35885055
>Stick with 4AAMs.
UGMs and guns can handle everything else
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>>35885055
>>Stick with 4AAMs.
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>>35885114

Just set them on fire.
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>>35885055
>Stick with 4AAMs.

Aww. No kiss :(
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>>35885082
>>35885114
Fair enough, with that said I change my vote to 4AAMs
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>>35885055
Merc, important question for this vote;

Do we keep the 4AAM's and can we use them again in a later mission or do we need to buy them back?
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>>35885088
>>35885095
>>35885108
If SWQ has taught me anything, it's that napalm won't put down a ship, no matter what circumstances.
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>>35885134
Won't do shit
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>>35885142
>:(
Stop that.
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>>35885157
Good thing this isn't SWQ then
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>>35885055
>>Unguided Bombs
We've got 2 air supremacy fighters watching over us and have UGMs and guns for backup, we're going hulk hunting, we need firecrackers for this
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>>35885161
No. ;)
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A bit late for the clusterfuck, but as far as planes go I would like to present: An obscure German paper design, The F-104G-HA. Because what the Starfighter needed was MORE THRUST. That's 2 ramjets glued on to the wings. It may want to kill us even more than the stock Starfighter. Unfortunately, the only sources I can find are an Ace Combat ripoff, and some German modeler, so it probably never existed, but this is ACQ, so who really gives a fuck?
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>>35885185
;^)
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>>35885157
I dunno, I go around just fine cooking carriers and cargo ships with my Napalm load.
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>>35884194
>No thanks, I don't like to be indebted.

Sixteen tons, and what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt. Oh Saint Peter, I can't go, 'cause I owe my soul to the company store..."

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1K0l-xPhWzs
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>>35885189
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>>35885169
Indeed, but there is a limit to how much damage a fire will do to fully manned ship constructed of steel. Napalm was invented for use on things that will readily burn, such as wooden buildings.
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>>35885187
Too tame, need N-104, rocket thrusters for life
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>>35885187
>Taking Suicide with Wings and turning it into Suicide with Wings and two Ramjets

And Hartmann's arguments are vindicated anew.
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>>35885210
If you check the timing on it, the guy was somebody trolling you. A minute hadn't passed since the previous emote post.
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>>35885187
>Ace Combat ripoff
Hey man, Vector Thrust is pretty cool. Plus I think the F-104G-HA never actually left the design board.
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>>35885106
The 23 was inferior to the 22 in every way that mattered, of course it lost.

Stealth airframe means precisely nothing if you stick all kinds of emitters on it and expect it to fight from afar. Whoops, looks like your fancy superfast super stealth jet is actually not very stealthy at all when it's running at full bore and stands out like a sore thumb to any modern IR missile, and the fact that it would need a radar to track targets with before popping off those fancy AAMRAMS means that every fucking person within 200 nautical miles knows there's a stealth fighter out there, and now it's revealed its position by firing a missile that doesn't even have a greater than 30 percent chance to strike an actively maneuvering target! Hooraaaaaaaaay!

Meanwhile, the Raptor is comparably fast, if not as fast, and can actually do something about opponents in BVR and WVR combat with equal deftness.

If USAF went with the 23, it would have been the F-35 in its given role, that is how big a piece of shit that jet would have been.
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>>35885294
Man, why isn't there a plane as capable as the 22 and as sexy as the 23.

That would make me cream my pants.
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>>35885294
F-35 is a fantastic multi-role, so I'll take that as a complement.
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>>35885322
I don't know about you, but the F-22 is sex to my eyes.
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>>35885294
Of course, this being AC means F-23 might get some refit to adress its shortcomings...
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>>35885322
Someone has to develop Variable Fighter technology first before we can get that.
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Aww, No kissing our ground crew huh?

Oh well.
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>>35885187
Well, if we're going to talk about experimental superplanes, does /tg/ have any opinions on the skunkworks latest project, the SR-72 blackbird? This monster is designed to get up to Mach 6.

http://sploid.gizmodo.com/this-is-the-lockheed-martin-sr-72-the-spaceage-heir-of-1456730707
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>>35885230
The best part is it's not even the most ridiculous starfighter variant. There's two VTOL projects using it, the first being this. The triangle thingy spins like a helicopter to take off vertically, the main engine lights up, then the top locks when forward speed has been achieved. And this is the less crazy one.
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>>35885354
Oh it is, but not as sexy as the Widow.

>>35885294
While all valid points in real life, we ain't in real life, so I'll hold my judgement until I see both airframes available to us.
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>>35885323
The F-35 is like the Panther or Tiger: Perhaps the best in it's class, but it fails in the long run because it's A: too complicated and costly to field in effective numbers, and B:has competitors that are comparitively inferior, but numerically superior.
All those bells and whistles don't mean much when you're up against 5-to-1 odds
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>>35885402
>forgot pic
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>>35885386
Pretty.
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>>35885386
strategic recon plane. Won't that useful for us except if somehow General Resource get their hand on one of this and makes it interceptor.
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>>35885402
The second being this fucking thing. Count them, that's 14 fucking engines in the wings. There are no words.
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>>35885386
Wait, it's still called the black bird? I thought they had a different name for it.

>>35885402
What? they still tried a TriebFlugel variant??
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>>35885428
>strategic recon plane.
That will be armed for interceptor and standoff strike capability roles
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>>35885435
whoa what
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>>35885322

only plane that comes to mind is the F-111

>dat range
>dat payload
>dem swept wings

Truly, we'll never find another girl that will every haul as much while still being a fighter-bomber derpfish.
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>>35885435
>I saved the thumbnail
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>>35885114
Modern ships are pretty much aluminium foil compared to battleships. An arleigh burke probably has less than 50mm of RHA deck so any antitank bomblet with shaped charges are going to drill holes into it. Swiss cheese would be an apt comparison. Doesn't necessarily mean it'll sink the ship of course. Not recommended since anti air missiles are a thing and it's much safer to shoot beyond the horizon with ASMs.

>>35885386
>gizomodo

Stop.
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>>35885402
>>35885417
I saw that in Vector Thrust and my jaw dropped at how crazy it is
>>35885435
ERROR: logic.exe has stopped working
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>>35885428
>Won't that useful for us except if somehow General Resource get their hand on one of this and makes it interceptor.

Might want to actually look into it because it is planned for just that with provisions for armaments...
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>>35885428
It has missiles anon. And since they don't need as much propellent (since they would be fired while at Mach 6 anyway) it can carry a lot.
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>>35885451
Oh god I hope we can get a Aardvark, it would be a great upgrade from our Phantom.

OI MERC, WHY NO F-111 IN THE SHOP?
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>>35885411
>The F-35 is like the Panther or Tiger: Perhaps the best in it's class, but it fails in the long run because it's A: too complicated and costly to field in effective numbers, and B:has competitors that are comparitively inferior, but numerically superior.
That would be wrong
>A
The F-35 isn't really that complicated to take care of, at least so I've heard.
>B:has competitors that are comparitively inferior, but numerically superior.
That's just wrong. The F-35 will be one of, if not the, most numerable planes on the planet. Plus, it is actually cheaper than several commonly used mainstays of certain air forces.
What puts the nail in the coffin is the US's insane air numbers. That won't change with the F-35.
Blue is US
Brown is Russia
Red is China
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>>35885435
You could load Micro Missiles in there!!
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>>35885481
Because the Aardvark is an awkwardly shaped bomber that pretends to be a fighter.
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>>35885154
Once you have the license for them, you can use them pretty much forever.

>>35885055
"I'll stick with the 4AAMs, thanks." You say.

"All right then, you 'd better get up in your plane and get ready to take off!" Smokey pushes you towards the ladder leading up to your cockpit. "The other squadrons are already taking off!"

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A couple hours later, you were flying above the northern ocean, AKA the Demon Edges. Of course, there was cloud and fog cover EVERYWHERE, effectively killing your visibility. All you could rely on was your radar, and even that was getting interrupted due to constant storm activity nearby. If there was any place to get into a surprise furball, it would be here.

"Ugh, I can't see a thing through this pea soup." Lara grumbles. "Hey, Valk, how about we dip down and take a look at the water?"

>Sure, I could use a change of pace.
>Nah, I'd rather stay up here.
>Other
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>>35885504
That is still capable of getting AtA kills while being completely unarmed.

Which no other plane has ever done.

The closest was a Air America Huey in northern Laos/Vietnam which used its rotorwash to knock a Po-2 out of the sky and into trees.
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>>35885519
>>Sure, I could use a change of pace.
Stay with your wingman
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>>35885519
>>Sure, I could use a change of pace.
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>>35885519
>>Sure, I could use a change of pace.
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>>35885519
>>Sure, I could use a change of pace.
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>>35885519
>>Sure, I could use a change of pace.
But make sure the other two are covering us.
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>>35885519
>Sure, I could use a change of pace.
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>>35885417
>>35885402
>>35885455

>Lockheed engineers were paid to come up with this

This makes me laugh more than it should.
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>>35885519
>Sure, I could use a change of pace.
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>>35885557
Well to be fair, we have to get all the ridiculous ideas out first. Not to mention we could accidentally create something entirely different from what we're looking for.
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>>Nah, I'd rather stay up here.

Wouldn't it be safer flying by instruments but still having concealment?
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>>35885557
I like how you can see the precise moment in that gif where the pilot is allowed to wave at the fighter mere seconds away from scoring a gun kill on him.
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>>35885519
>Sure, I could use a change of pace.
>>35885493
>The F-35 will be one of, if not the, most numerable planes on the planet.

F-35A: $114M (low rate initial production,
F-35B: $142M (low rate initial production)
F-35C: $132M (low rate initial production)
How can you be this delusional?
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>>35885519
>>Sure, I could use a change of pace.
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>>35885519
>Nah, I'd rather stay up here

No sense in going low when we can barely see and the radar's encountering interference.
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>>35885493
>at least so I've heard.
then you're an idiot
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>>35885600
Fuck yeah Viggen.

I want that baby so badly.

I really want to go for it, then the Grippen, and then a proper gen 5 plane, bypassing the more common F-16/15's
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>>35885647
Agreed.
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>>35885604
Those figures are outdated. It's around 100-120M or so now for LRIP 8 and the Charlie variant is the most expensive one.
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>>35885519
>Sure, I could use a change of pace.

>>35885493
Speaking of Chinese aircraft, since it seems like we'll be dealing with mostly mercenary outfits for, I wonder if we'll get a chance to engage an ace piloting a J-10 in this quest's Strangereal verse?
Since they'll never appear in any AC franchise ever anyway.
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>>35885601

Pugachev's Cobra: completely ridiculous move, but damn does it look impressive.
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>>35885557
I know nothing of planes.. what is that thing that ignores physics?
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>>35885604
F-35A is currently at 90 million, still going down. We aren't even at full production.

Further, there are expected to be 2,443 of the bastards. You heard me right, two and a half thousand. YOU are the delusional one.
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>>35885695
It's basically slowing down at a stupid rate by using the entire body as a parachute. It's worthless in combat.
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>>35885734
>It's worthless in combat.
Except for when we used it against Wolf in his Raptor...
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>>35885695
Thrust vectoring letting you do crazy maneuvers. Like pitching the plane up so hard and fast that you can use the entire airframe as an air brake to rapidly lose speed.
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>>35885666
It's still at least 5x more expensive than the Falcon and 3x more expensive than the Strike Eagle, both of which fill their roles just fine and can continue to do so into the 2040s, with proper upgrades
>>35885704
And the Raptor was expected have around 750 produced, but was so expensive they had to cut production down to under 200
What makes you think the Lightning won't experience a similar cut?
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>>35885669
Seconding on the Chinese planes.

I for one, would like to engage Q-5's and J-15's.
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>>35885647

I don't know enough about Saabs to vouch for them, but goddamn they do look nice.

The same argument could also have been used for the Saab car manufacturer when they were still in business.
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>>35885519
"Sure, I could use the change of pace." You agree.

"Cool! Angel, Magnet, you both got overwatch duty."

"Roger that." Lilian says.

You see the vague outline of Lara's Eagle as it begins to gradually drop altitude. You likewise begin dropping down slowly, easing your Phantom downward gently. Fucking fog. You didn't completely trust your altimeter, which is why you were going slow and steady. You heard too many stories of pilots plowing into the water or ground because they were too reliant on their instruments to guide them.

>Roll 1d10 (ID test. -1 for poor weather so you need to roll a 5 or lower.)
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>>35885752
>near stall speed
>near ground
>nose up
>stall
>oh shit thrust to weight ratio is under 1
>crash
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Rolled 9 (1d10)

>>35885787
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Rolled 7 (1d10)

>>35885787
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>>35885757
It also lets you catch more bullets in a half second burst than any other fighter would normally allow in such a scenario, truly an amazing maneuver.
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Rolled 9 (1d10)

>>35885787
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>>35885796
>>35885799
>>35885804
Can't see shit sir.
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>>35885796
>>35885799
>>35885804
Welcome to the pilot's graveyard, gents.
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>>35885796
>>35885799
>>35885804
Hahaha.... Always the ID test.
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Rolled 10 (1d10)

>>35885787
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Rolled 4 (1d20)

>>35885787
Rolling for encounter...
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>>35885837
Shit.
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Rolled 3 - 1 (1d10 - 1)

>>35885787
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>>35885775
>What makes you think the Lightning won't experience a similar cut?
The reason the raptor was cut was because the F-35 was on the horizon. There's no such thing. Plus, public opinion on 5th gens is changing. The program has gotten its shit together.
Plus, if it was going to be cut, it would have been cut by now.
Further, the program is "to big to fail". Too much money was sunk into it thus far for the US to not get it.
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Rolled 4 (1d10)

>>35885785
Saab makes great planes. Viggen and Draken are highly recommended.

>>35885787
Roollleeennn
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>>35885837
>>35885846
We're so freaking dead.
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>>35885787
>too reliant on their instruments to guide them.
ALWAYS TRUST YOUR INSTRUMENTS!

It is EXTREMELY more like your senses are wrong than your instruments have failed.
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>>35885791
Did you not read our duel against Wolf?

Because if you're just prattling on about random RL plane stuff then this ain't the thread for it.
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>>35885775
It's an investment, not to mention there's lots of money and politics involved. You can't afford to not have the best hardware in the world when you need your military to be up for world war 3. Yes planes are awesome but what would also be awesome is if there was free higher education in the US but they also can't afford to have the USD not be the world's reserve currency. This is in no way a defence for the US government however.
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>>35885787
>(ID test. -1 for poor weather so you need to roll a 5 or lower.)
You mean a +1 right?

>>35885883
The 10 didn't make it in first 3 so we've got a 7
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>>35885896
>You can't afford to not have the best hardware in the world when you need your military to be up for world war 3.
You mean the war that's never gonna fucking happen, and even if it did happen the Lightning won't be able to do much besides burn in atomic fire?
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>>35885846
Suddenly, you start getting some return contacts on your radar. Just one big blob below where you are. However, you just assume it's just some storm activity and keep descending. Then, thankfully, you hit a clear spot.

And find yourself smack dab in an entire fucking enemy squadron of MiG-23s.

You all just hold course for a few very, VERY long seconds, as if you all were not sure what was going on was actually real.

And then your target lock warning starts shrieking.

>NOPE NOPE NOOOOPE.
>FIRE EVERYTHING
>Other
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>>35885884
I agree completely with this. Any good pilot knows that their instruments will almost always be more accurate than themselves as long as they are set properly.

Those guys who plow into the ground on instruments usually do so because they have the wrong pressure altitude setting input in their altimeter.
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>>35885911
Oh yeah. Forgot it was first 3.
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>>35885933
>Other

how did I get here?

then
>FIRE EVERYTHING
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>>35885933
>NOPE NOPE NOOOOPE.
CRAZY IVAN
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>>35885933
>>NOPE NOPE NOOOOPE.
Evade like a crazy bitch.
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>>35885933
>>FIRE EVERYTHING
TALLY HO!
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>>35885933
>>Other
"Fuck"

followed by
>FIRE EVERYTHING
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>>35885933
>>FIRE EVERYTHING
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>>35885933
>FIRE EVERYTHING
And radio it in fucking STAT
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>>35885933
>>FIRE EVERYTHING
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>>35885933
>>FIRE EVERYTHING
FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK
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>>35885933
>>FIRE EVERYTHING
Actually, being only two fighters in a swarm of enemies isn't that bad of a position to be.
Remember, you're only two planes among many, there are people all around you.
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>>35885955
I like this
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>>35885933
>FIRE EVERYTHING
GUNS! FIRE GUNS NONSTOP
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>>35885933
>FIRE EVERYTHING
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>>35885933
>FIRE EVERYTHING

VOLKSGRENADIERS!!!! FIRE AT ANYTHING!!! FIRE AT EVERYTHING!!!!!
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>>35885933
>FIRE EVERYTHING
>NOPE NOPE NOOOOPE.
HOLD THE TRIGGERS DOWN AND DON"T LET GO UNTIL WE'RE AWAY
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>>35885933

ITANO, GOD OF ITANO CIRCUSES, HEAR OUR CRY

>FIRE EVERYTHING
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>>35885933
>Other
Fuck it. Weave tighter into their formation.

>FIRE EVERYTHING
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>>35886001
UNPIMP ALL THE PLANES!
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>>35885933
>FIRE EVERYTHING

RIPPLE FIRE THOSE 4AAM'S AND PUSH THROUGH LIKE A GODDAMN MANIAC!
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>>35885933
EVADE
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>>35886017
SAAB 29s, nice.
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Rolled 3, 1, 10 = 14 (3d10)

>>35885933
"FUUUUUUUUUUUCK!" You scream at nobody in particular as you flip off every weapon safety you can think of and just keep pulling the trigger.

>roll 6d10 (AtA roll. -1 to your skill due to PANIC, so you need a 5 or better).
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Rolled 7, 2, 3, 7, 5, 6 = 30 (6d10)

>>35886048
>>
Rolled 1, 2, 4, 3, 1, 2 = 13 (6d10)

Here comes the snow

>>35886048
>>
Rolled 10, 6, 5, 9, 9, 9 - 1 = 47 (6d10 - 1)

>>35886048
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>>35886007
UNLEASH THY POWERS, MISA HAYASE!!!!

>>35886016
Related.
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Rolled 10, 1, 3, 8, 3, 6 = 31 (6d10)

>>35886048

I love this encounter already.
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Rolled 8, 5, 2, 7, 5, 5 + 1 = 33 (6d10 + 1)

>>35886048
>>
Rolled 7, 6, 6, 5, 5, 8 = 37 (6d10)

>>35886048
here we go
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>>35885933
>FIRE EVERYTHING
4AAM STRONK
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>>35886060

Holy shit.

SNOOOOKW
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Rolled 10, 1, 6, 4, 1, 6 = 28 (6d10)

>>35886048
>>
>>35886060
OUR SAVIOR!
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>>35886060
HOLY MOTHER OF SHITBALLS
THE SNOW IS REAL
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>>35886060
>>35886060
>>35886061

Holy shit....
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Rolled 2, 10, 1, 7, 8, 5 = 33 (6d10)

>>35886048
MAX JENIUS, WORK YOUR GENIUS!!!!
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>>35886060
You fucking win.
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>>35886060
SHIIIIIIIIIIIT man!
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>>35886060

...Here comes the fucking snow indeed.
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>>35886060
Somebody get A FUCKING CALCULATOR!

What is the Damn probablility of getting a 5 or less on ALL of them?
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>>35886060
PIIIXXXXYYYYY
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>>35886060
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yI3MUb0OpA
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>>35886114
Goddamn that's sexy.
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>>35886121
Higher than the odds of these Floggers flying away, that's for fucking sure
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>>35886060
... holy fuck dude
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>>35886121
Probably 1 in 60 at the least.
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>>35886048
>so you need a 5 or better
For the love of god and all his angels Merc, please don't tell me we're supposed to roll high for this.
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>>35886121
1.5%

Not even a hard problem, man.
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>>35886161
Even if that were the case, I have that covered with my multitude of 9s.
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>>35886060
Karla: "Uhhh....I TOTALLY meant to do that!"
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>>35886161

planes and mercs is mostly a roll low system.
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>>35886114
>Checks pic
>Sees gunpod
Gunpod-chan will kill you and you love... Happily.
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>>35886140

The F-35 has her moments.
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>>35886172
But critfails would take precedent, wouldn't they?
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>>35886216
I just love the look of 5th gens. So sleek and beautiful
>>35886229
We have no idea. It's the best set, so probably not.
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>>35886229
not on multiroll sets
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>>35886229
Rules say that for Multiple Rolls, (Multirolls, get it?) he takes the one with the most successes and forgets the rest.
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>>35886229
Yep.
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>>35886229

no.

in multiple rolls, merc takes the set with the most number of successes.
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>>35886048
>Inb4 transmitted that on open mike to everyone in the area
Just so we can see their reactions
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>>35886060
You're not quite sure what happened. At first, you're momentarily blinded from the flash as 6 missiles launch off your wings simultaneously, streaking out to their targets. This close, there was no way they could miss, and the six Floggers in front of you literally evaporate in a cloud of smoke, fire, and shrapnel.

Almost immediately, you can hear screaming and cursing over the open channels as the Flogger pilots try to figure out what the hell was going on.

"What the hell was that?!?!"

"I don't know!"

"It's a fucking Phantom!"

"Shut the fuck up! Ghosts ain't real!"

The three remaining Floggers immediately dive away, while the three immediately behind you fire their cannons reflexively. You can feel the impacts of bullets rock across your fuselage.

>3 damage sustained! Your plane has 9hp remaining!

As a reflex, you dive for the deck as well to gain some speed.

"Valk?! Where the hell are you?!" Lara cries, a bit worried. "I think I saw explosions!"

>I need backup!
>Don't worry, I got this handled.
>Other
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>>35886254
>Multirolls, get it?

Your pun is bad

And you should feel bad


I kid
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>>35886285
>>I need backup!
TALLY HO MiG-23s!
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>>35886285
>>I need backup!
What we did was a miracle, I don't wanna rely on miracles.
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>>35886285
>>I need backup!
>>
>>35886285
>>I need backup!
>>
>>35886285
>I need backup!
Three-to-one odds are never good
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>>35886285
>Six down, I need back up.
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>>35886285
>>Don't worry, I got this handled.
Cool your tits, we got this shit.
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>>35886285
>I need backup!
>>
>>35886285
>I need backup!
>Other
"Massive formation of Flogger's under the clouds, heading for the deck now"
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>>35886285
>I need backup!
We got the drop on them, now it's time to radio it in to the rest of the team.
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>>35886285
>>I need backup!

No heroics! Get our wingman stuck into this furball!
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>>35886285
>Other
I NEED AN ADULT!
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>>35886285
>Don't worry, I got this handled.

we got them spooked
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>>35886285
>>I need backup!
>>
>>35886285
>>I need backup!
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>>35886285
>I need Backup!
We need to get those three floggers off our tail ASAP.
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>>35886285
>I need backup!
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>>35886285
>Don't worry, I got this handled.
>Deadpan delivery required.
>Bang.
>Three floggers down
>Pic related

>"What the hell was that?!?!"

>"I don't know!"

>"It's a fucking Phantom!"

>"Shut the fuck up! Ghosts ain't real!"

Phantom OP GAIJIN STRONK NERF PLZ
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>>35886285
>"Shut the fuck up! Ghosts ain't real!"
my sides. I told you guys we should have gone with Spooky!

>I need backup!
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>>35886349
Little did we know that for the Halloween special WE would be the thing that terrifies all others.
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>>35886366
six Floggers in front of you literally evaporate

Six friend.

>>35886370
Goddamn right Boo and Spooky would be fucking perfect Right now but noo VALKYRIE!
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>>35886318
>I don't wanna rely on miracles
It's like you don't trust in the Eye of Miracles anon.
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>>35886414
I don't know how to respond to that image.
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>>35886394
>Not wanting to be the chooser of the slain
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>>35886394
No man, I was talking about the last three. The ones trying to get away.

Guess I kinda mixed up my write-ups.
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>>35886366
dont worry I will shoot her down with my KV2

like how I shot that stuka down today!
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>>35886426
>Wanting a common overly used nickname.
>>
You know if this were an Ace Combat mission, I'd call it Mission nth:"Ghost Story"
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>>35886438
>Wanting to be an "Boo" or "Spooky"
It's like you aren't an AC protagonist.
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>>35886438
>Not wanting a name that suits us perfectly
>>
>>35886414

>>35886422
WITH THIS!
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>>35886436
>KV-2 shooting down a Stuka

Vladimir What the Shit

>>35886422
By the Power of the Dark Flame Master, Yuuta vi Britannia commands you... to shoot down those Floggers!!!
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>>35886456
Yep, after this I'll bet Karla is more inclined to buy into the myths of the Demon's Edge.
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>>35886438
Most callsigns aren't cool. They're usually embarrassing and common.
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>>35886480
That'd be the perfect way to end it. And who said Belkans didn't have a sense of humour?
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>>35886480
Nah. More like fuck clouds, fog, and everything between.
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>>35886473
I think the shell bounced off a tank and hit it
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>>35886463
How does it suit us? We're not a rescue unit in any way, we're actively blowing our enemies out of the sky. That's not what valkyries did.
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>>35886470
Crazy britannian, you know Chen-emiah Gottwald will eventually put her loyalty in His Majesty Lelouch Togashi/Yuuta vi Britannia.
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>>35886492
Boo and Spooky flow as embarrassing. In this instance it would have been badass. Valkyrie only works of the context of being Belkan.
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>>35886285
"Uh, I dropped in on a squadron of Floggers, killed a bunch, but there's three on my tail and Ireallyneedhelpnow." You say extremely quickly.

"Whoa! Okay! I'm homing in on your transponder right now! Just stay alive!"

Easier said than done. Cannon shells were still flying past your fighter, and you were pretty sure the Floggers were now dropping back to get missile lock on you.

That wasn't even consider the other three Floggers, either. You hope that they've scattered for good and won't return. Or worse, they were regrouping to attack again.

>Turn on the Floggers and hit them head on.
>Go evasive to throw off their aim.
>Other
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>>35886492
>His own RIO has the call sign "Spud" due to a scatological incident at a sex show involving a potato.
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>>35886538
>>Go evasive to throw off their aim.
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>>35886498
Talk about Stupid Lucky Odds there man.
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>>35886508
code geass quest is tomorrow
https://twitter.com/Crosswire

shirley a CHAR
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>>35886538
>Go evasive to throw off their aim.
>>
>>35886538
>Go evasive to throw off their aim.
>>
>>35886538
>Go evasive to throw off their aim.
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>>35886538
>Go evasive to throw off their aim.
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>>35886538
>Go evasive to throw off their aim.
>>35886505
>Valkyrie
>Rescue unit
What is your major malfunction?
A Valkyrie's job is to choose the slain, and here we are, choosing the slain by slaying them ourselves
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>>35886543
I just cant wait until they add the x-ray damage cam to planes!
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>>35886538
>>Go evasive to throw off their aim.
>>
>>35886538
>>Turn on the Floggers and hit them head on.
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>>35886505
In older myths, the Valkyries were directly responsible for those "Misfortunes on the battlefield". (i.e. Stray arrows killing a man, good armor being penetrated by weapons, and every other bit of bad luck one can experience during a battle)

Essentially, it was the Norse explanation as to why Good people die and Bad people live.
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>>35886547
I'd appreciate it if you not advertise your own quest in other people's quests without permission.

Just a heads up.
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>>35886538
>Other
>Climb
>Spin
>BOUNCE

>>35886547
Wait, how???

>>35886574
>X-ray cam
There will be blood. Or fuel leaks. Either way.
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>>35886605
Or you could just Immelman.
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>>35886538
>Go evasive to throw off their aim.
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>>35886586
I personally know the guy running that quest. He's asleep right now. Don't know who he is.
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>>35886586
It's just an anon, though a stupid anon at that, he should know better than that.
>>
50 Bucks we get to fight off someone with a callsign of "Skylark", "Cardinal", "Swift", or better yet, "Honey Badger"
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Rolled 1, 10, 4 = 15 (3d10)

>>35886538
You take evasive maneuvers, deciding to buy yourself enough time for Lara to come in and support you. You go full afterburner while turning as sharply as possible at your speed. You can feel your Phantom's airframe groan and protest as the stresses you're putting it under, but risking structural compromise was a better alternative to taking a missile up the ass.

>roll 1d10 (ACM roll. You need a 5 or lower to succeed)
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Rolled 1 (1d10)

>>35886815
rollin
>>35886767
Mah faunus
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Rolled 9 (1d10)

>>35886815
>>
Rolled 9 (1d10)

>>35886815
Rollin
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I guess it's time to dance with the angels.>>35886815
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>>35886822
We are on FIRE.
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Rolled 2 (1d10)

>>35886815
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>>35886822
CRDL to the rescue.
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>>35886822
Fuck yeah buddy
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>>35886822
Nice! We tied their best.
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>>35886822

NOICE
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>>35886822
>>35886823
>>35886825
holy fuck that was close
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>>35886822
>>35886823
>>35886825
I love this quest.
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>>35886815
I SUMMON THEE, MILLIA JENIUS!!!
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>>35886851
nah, the 10 cancels the 1. We beat 'em.
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>>35886815
You see three missiles streak past, unable to keep track of your rapidly turning Phantom.

"All right, the cavalry is here!" Lara whoops as she and Lilian dive down on the Floggers on your tail The poor bastards don't even stand a chance, with Lara immediately knocking out two while Lilian mops up the third.

"Thanks." You sigh, finally taking a moment to relax.

"Don't relax just yet. There are still three Floggers unaccounted for." Lilian warns.

"Ah, they're probably running home to their mommies!" Lara chortles.

"Hey, where's Magnet?" You ask. You don't see Amy's Warthog anywhere.

"Oh, right, Amy caught sight of a freighter convoy. She went to check it out."

>Let's go give her a hand, then.
>We should search for anymore bandits that might be hiding here.
>Other
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>>35886941
>>Let's go give her a hand, then.
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>>35886941
>Let's go give her a hand, then.
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>>35886941
>>Let's go give her a hand, then.
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>>35886941
>>Let's go give her a hand, then.
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>>35886941
>Let's go give her a hand, then.
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>>35886941
>>Let's go give her a hand, then.
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>>35886941
>>Let's go give her a hand, then.
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>>35886941
>Let's go give her a hand, then.
If ever stuff comes up on her tailpipe, let's focus on that.
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>>35886941
>Let's go give her a hand, then.
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>>35886941
>Let's go give her a hand, then.

big targets pay lots
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Merc Commander ded?
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>>35887193
>PixyIntensifies.jpg
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>>35887193
Patience. Don't do anything stoo-pid.
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>>35887274
saying that is like offering us a big, red, shiny knob with 'Do something stupid' written on it.
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Which plane would you lewd?
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>>35887300
Shiny shiny rafale sounds about good.

And on that note, quick post Keine Lewds!
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>>35887300
All of them
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>>35887306
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>>35887309
>>35887317
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>>35886941
"All right, let's go give Amy a hand, then." You say.

"Let's." Lilian says approvingly.

The three of you home in on Amy's tranponder, and you finally get close enough to see the Warthog flying circles around a convoy of three cargo freighters.

"Hey hey hey, lookie at what I found!" Amy says cheerfully.

"Looks like we hit the motherlode." Lara says happily. "Did you tell them to identify themselves?"

"They won't answer." Amy grumbles. "I already called it in to Loki, and he's sending over some airborne troops to handle it. Problem is, I think we're all running low on fuel."

"That is a problem." You frown.

"Plus these guys aren't stopping. That's also sort of an issue."

>Stay on station as long as possible.
>Leave the convoy for the airborne troops to handle. You already got their escort.
>Sink the freighters, just to be sure.
>Other
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Excalibur sure looks different than what I remember.
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>>35887327
Best girl
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>>35887339
>>Stay on station as long as possible.
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>>35887339
>>Leave the convoy for the airborne troops to handle. You already got their escort.
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>>35887339
>Stay on station as long as possible.
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>>35887339
>Sink the freighters, just to be sure.

Allll dat MOOONNNEEYYY
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>>35887339
>>Other
Warning shots in front of their bows
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>>35887339
>>Stay on station as long as possible.
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>>35887339
>Stay on station as long as possible.
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>>35887339
>>Stay on station as long as possible.
Inb4 they're Vertical Catapult Launcher equipped carriers
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>>35887369
X-9 ghost?
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>>35887339
>Stay on station as long as possible.
And this. >>35887361

Standard procedure, albeit we're not a helicopter. But you gotta improvise with what you have.
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>>35887383
"Show us all why you were once called the 'Nightmare of Macross City!'"
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>>35887361
Supporting.

>>35887395
Better than that, we got a freaking warthog man!
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>>35887383
>>35887420
I foresee tears, bloodshed, and psycho-Vocaloids.
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Anyone want to bet after that airborne troopers boarding the ships, those three floggers return and will try to sink the ships?

better wait to prevent any failed first jump.
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>>35887339
>>Stay on station as long as possible.
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>>35887435

Problem is that we're getting low on fuel. I'm sure the Airborne troops would love having us around, but unless there's a KC-135 loitering around osmewhere we'll need to get back to base.

Still, it does mean that those boarding parties would have a sweet Modern Warfare-esque cinematic escape if the Floggers came back and sunk their own ships.
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>>35887496
Please think all of those rookies!
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>>35887496
My man, right here.
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>>35887339
>>Stay on station as long as possible.
Stick around 'till bingo fuel
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>>35887435
Why would the Floggers have the unguided bombs required to sink the vessels? If that was the plan all along they could've just rigged the boats with explosives on left on board.
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>>35887339
"Okay, we'll stay on station as long as possible." You say.

"Got it." Lara says. "If they so much as sneeze, we'll send them to the bottom."

"All right." You nod. However, you hear a beeping sound, letting you know something was wrong. "Fuck."

"Something wrong?" Lilian asks.

"I'm losing fuel a lot faster than I thought." You grumble. "I did get shot up a bit."

"You should head back to base." Lara says. "I'll cover you. Angel and Magnet can babysit the ships."

"Oh woe is me. Such a hard life we have here." Magnet says sarcastically.

"See? Totally fine!" Lara laughs.

"All right." You sigh. You suppose you shouldn't push your luck any further today. Besides, you did pretty well, all things considered.

You and Lara break off and head west back to base. However, like before, the flight is boring and uneventful, and all you can see is clouds, fog, and more clouds and fog.

>roll 1d10 (ID test. -1 for fog, so you need a 5 or lower)
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>>35887535
Since this is Ace Combat where a mere sidewinders is quite enough to incapacitate a ship...

And i just making a stupid reference anyway.
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Rolled 4 (1d10)

>>35887547
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Rolled 1 (1d10)

>>35887547
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Rolled 5 (1d10)

>>35887547
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Rolled 9 (1d10)

>>35887547
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>>35887558
All of my yes.
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>>35887558
I guess we spotted whatever it is.
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>>35887558
>>35887557
>>35887560

We made it.
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>>35887558

FIIIIREEEEE
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>>35887558
Mah Belkan
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Rolled 1 (1d10)

>>35887547
So, are Angel and Magnet going to get fucked real hard?
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Rolled 9 (1d10)

>>35887547
I swear to Razgriz, if we run into those Floggers again...
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This is an odd feeling.

Its a merc quest and im celebrating seeing 1s.
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>>35887586
You should be celebrating whenever we rolled ones for hilarity. So many great times.
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>>35887547
Suddenly, you catch a whiff of movement and swerve to the side just as you see an F-15 shoot past you.

"Ha ha, very funny, Stripes." You grumble. "But I'm not really in the mood for games here."

Silence.

"...Stripes...?"

No answer.

"Lara?" You start sweating. Was your radio down? You check your radio. No, it was perfectly find. There wasn't anybody transmitting. You check your HUD, but you don't even see Lara's IFF transponder.

She wouldn't turn it off just to mess with you, would she?

"Lara, this seriously isn't fucking funny." You growl, or at least try to sound menacing. However, you couldn't help but feel extreme unease.

You see Lara's Eagle flit by again, and this time you follow after it. It dives down into the clouds and you follow.

"Lara, I swear to god, if you're fucking with me I'll shove a missile up your-"

And then your words die in your throat as you get a better look at the Eagle. It wasn't Lara's, but you recognized it all the same.

And then it performs an impossibly fast turn to face you and your missile lock warnings wail.

>NOPE NOPE NOPE
>STAND AND FIGHT
>CRY
>Other
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>>35887767
>STAND AND FIGHT
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>>35887767
>>STAND AND FIGHT

You just had to use that Merc....
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>>35887767
>CRY
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>>35887767
>>NOPE NOPE NOPE
AHAHAHA TIME TO MAKE LIKE A TREE AND GET THE FUCK OUT
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>>35887767
>STAND AND FIGHT
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>>35887767
>>STAND AND FIGHT
Guys, I think the REAL SNOW is here.
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Guys, I don't think it would be a good idea to try and fight this monster. He's a bit beyond our level.
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>>35887767
>NOPE NOPE NOPE
>CRY
Only a combination of both can express just
How fucked we are
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>>35887767
>>STAND AND FIGHT
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>>35887767
>STAND AND FIGHT
we're low on fuel so it's unlikely that we could outrun it while dodging it's fire, so we have to take it out fast or cripple it before it blows us out of the sky.
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>>35887767
>CRY

DEAR GOD WHY
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>>35887767
>>NOPE NOPE NOPE
Who is this guy?

If these posts and our lack of fuel and missiles are anything to go by I'm going to vote we bug out.
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>>35887807
>>35887792
>>35887778
CRY SOME MORE!!
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Oh how fucked are we
Cipher will claim victory
Our only choice: to flee
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>>35887767
>>NOPE NOPE NOPE
>>
>>35887825
That is THE DEMON LORD OF THE ROUND TABLE.

GALM 1. Perhaps the greatest Ace in The Belkan War.
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>>35887825
An ACE who straight up ruined Belka solo
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>le me choosing without cheking spoiler first
>read anons reaction
>Checks spoiler
>OH FUCK

I am one of that
>Stand and Fight
Change it into
>NOPE NOPE NOPE

>>35887825
Demon Lord of Round Table
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>>35887767
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>>35887837
>Perhaps
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>>35887767
>STAND AND FIGHT
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>>35887837
So its clearly not him because no way in hell would he work for this scrub outfit.
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Oh boy, our buddies in the bar will NOT believe this.

But maybe another might....
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>>35887767
>>STAND AND FIGHT
No! Fuck you! This isn't Zero! You're not the protag now!
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>>35887767
>NOPE NOPE NOPE
>CRY
Fuck this, I'm out.
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>>35887853
NO NO NO i MEANT
>NOPE NOPE NOPE
FUCK
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>>35887837
wait that's the demon lord?!

oh... Fire off every thing we have at it, hope to god something hits, and fly back to base like the devil himself is after us, which isn't to far off the mark
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>>35887767
>NOPE NOPE NOPE
>STAND AND FIGHT
>CRY
>>
Would we be straight up dead if we had gotten a lesser success?
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>>35887854
still not gonna taking chance to verify that alone.

>>35887858
Even if we survive, our Phanto won't.
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>>35887767
>>STAND AND FIGHT
>>
>>35887767

ROY FOKKER BLESS US

>STAND AND FIGHT
>WITH ALL OUR REMAINING MISILES
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>>35887767
>NOPE NOPE NOPE
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>>35887858
Sorry, detective, but I think this is a pre-destined Story Event.
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Couldn't it be someone pretending to be them?
>>
Final Destination!
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>>35887767
>>STAND AND FIGHT

Seems a bit sudden for Merc to throw this guy at us in combat, I bet this guy is testing us
>>
we're heading back to base anyways, it's not like we need to save our missiles for something so we don't need to hold back

Also try to rise some help on the radio
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Canonically, Cipher was a Soldier Ace and whenever there was a divergence in which Ace he fought, Canon states that he fought all 3 Aces at the same time.

>>35887894
What kind of moron would do that?
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>>35887767
>>STAND AND FIGHT
"I HOPE I GIVE YOU THE SHITS!"
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>>35887883
PINEAPPLE TIME

>>35887894
Impossible, he's too god-tier to be merely copied.
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>>35887908
>Canon states that he fought all 3 Aces at the same time.
I did not know that. Holy shit.
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>>35887908
Should we call up Rot 1 if we survive this encounter?
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>inb4 all a hallucination

I'm not even going to be mad. Just annoyed at the waste of time this will be.
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>>35887925
Nononono, he'll go psycho on us, and be all "I foresaw this, but NOOOOO you didn't even listen".

I'd rather avoid that fiasco.
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>>35887908
actually, possibility of >>35887894 is there. Someone good enough. Your usual pilot will panic when they realize the marking and already defeated psychologically.

Still not gonna take a chance.

....hopefully it just a case of him newly hired by our allies and wrongly ID us.
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>>35887922
Yep, that means he fought Rot, Grun, and Indigo Squadrons at roughly the same time.
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Rolled 10, 4, 5, 4, 3, 9, 1, 9, 9, 9 = 63 (10d10)

>>35887767
Of all the fighters, it had to be this one. It had many names: Galm One, Cipher, or the most popular of all, the Demon Lord of the Round Table. The greatest ace of his generation, popularly believed to have singlehandedly won the Belkan War. His achievements were so mythic and unbelievable that many people thought that he was no mere man, but a literal demon come down to Earth to wreak havoc. And you knew for a fact that every Belkan could instantly recognize his plane, and no matter their stance on the Belkan War, always felt a bit of anger or unease at the sight of his plane.

And here he was, right in front of you.

You could swear you were smiling under your helmet as you thumbed the safety off your missiles.

>Roll 1d10 (AtA roll. You need a 7 or better.)
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>>35887767
>>STAND AND FIGHT
Be without fear in the face of your enemies.
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>>35887929
it would be cool if its a vision guiding us to be the Valkyrie of Belka, spirit of the skies
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Rolled 5 (1d10)

>>35887943
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Rolled 4 (1d10)

>>35887943
Here comes the snow!
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Rolled 3 (1d10)

>>35887943
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Rolled 7 (1d10)

>>35887943
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Rolled 4 (1d10)

>>35887943
fuck fuck FUCK
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Rolled 1 (1d10)

>>35887943
C'MON ISAMU ALVA DAYSON, LET'S GET DANGEROUS!!!
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>>35887947
>vision guiding us
So a waste of time.
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>>35887943
That DC is too easy. Something's up.
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>>35887943
>>
Rolled 10 (1d10)

>>35887943
Hory shiet it's an actual, factual main game ace.
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>>35887972
>>35887947
If that were the case, we should have been floating naked in space.
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Rolled 2 (1d10)

>>35887959
>>35887958
>>35887951
I am confused by what is going on and how good we're rolling
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>>35887959
Good news is, we did it. Bad news is, we didn't beat the 1.

>>35887974
Yeah...somethings fishy. Maybe it's psychological warfare.
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>>35887974
Oh god we just killed our wingmen didn't we
>>
AAAAAAAAA!
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>>35887986
>Bad news is, we didn't beat the 1.
The 10 cancels out the 1. We're good.
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>>35888001
Not necessarily.
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>>35887988
She probably shouldn't have locked on to us.
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>>35888001
Inb4 critfails again
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>>35888003
Yeah, like a certain other wingman.
>>
That would be why they call this the Demon Edges
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>>35888022
Pixy?
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>>35888002
Well yeah. Four likely hits to our one? And that's assuming his AtA skill isn't ridiculous enough to make those four 9's hit.

At least we probably hit him. That's more than most people manage.
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>>35888022
Lara is the spy and she's taking us out.
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>>35888044
>"Ugh, I can't see a thing through this pea soup." Lara grumbles. "Hey, Valk, how about we dip down and take a look at the water?"
>we end up in the middle of a bunch of enemies
Suspicions intensify.
>>
>>35887943
You each fire off a single missile, which both pass by each other in the air. You see yours score a solid hit on the enemy Eagle, gouging a crater into the armor, but the plane was still flying. Meanwhile, the Demon Lord's missile scraped against the side of your Phantom's fuselage just above the wing, gouging a deep rend in the outer skin before plowing into your left tail stabilizer and shearing it off.

And in a split second, the world seems to slow down as both you and the Demon Lord's planes fly past each other. You try to get a good look at the cockpit, the plane shoots by too fast.

>Warning! You are at 1hp!

Your Phantom, grievously wounded, lists heavily to the side as the Demon Lord, seeming unphased by the damaged you caused to it, loops around for another pass. You quickly try to turn your Phantom around to face him, but your controls suddenly feel sluggish, like they were being jammed up by paste.

Meanwhile, the Demon Lord draws every closer, and you get the ugly feeling that you'll meet your end here, up in this cloudy hellhole when suddenly, a bright flash of orange swoops in between you and the Demon Lord. The Demon Lord immediately breaks off, and you are surprised to see a Su-27 Flanker with black and orange tiger stripes engage him, vomiting gunfire and missiles at the Eagle.

>Take the chance to flee.
>The Flanker looks like it's here to help. Assist it!
>Other
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>>35888058
>Jesus She Lived through that? Alright fine I'll kill her myself.
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>>35888061
>>Take the chance to flee.
Time to GTFO
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>>35888061
>>Take the chance to flee.
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>>35888061
>>Take the chance to flee.
Jesus we're on our last legs here.
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>>35888061
>Take the chance to flee.
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>>35888061
>The Flanker looks like it's here to help. Assist it!
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>>35888061
>>The Flanker looks like it's here to help. Assist it!

I don't care how stupid this is.
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>>35888061
>>Take the chance to flee.
Welp

In positive side, we nicked Demon lord.
In bad side, we surely on his watchlist now.
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>>35888061
>Take the chance to flee.
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>>35888061
>The Flanker looks like it's here to help. Assist it!
Fire off a couple more missiles then
>Take the chance to flee.
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>>35888061
>Take the chance to flee.
good god we're going to need to drink after this
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>>35888061
>Take the chance to flee.
Yeah, no fuck this place.
Need a damn strong drink back at base.
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>>35888061
>>The Flanker looks like it's here to help. Assist it!

Let's go!!
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>>35888061
>>Take the chance to flee.
EMERGENCY AFTERBURNERS DANGNABBIT!!!

... The guncam did catch the Demon Lord, right?


>Su-27 Flanker with black and orange tiger stripes
Suspicious Flanker is suspicious
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>>35888061
>>The Flanker looks like it's here to help. Assist it!
MARINES, WE ARE *LEAVING!*
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Rolled 6 (1d10)

>>35888061
>The Flanker looks like it's here to help. Assist it!
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>>35888061
>>Take the chance to flee.
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>>35888061
>>The Flanker looks like it's here to help. Assist it!
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>>35888061
>>Take the chance to flee.
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>>35888085
>>35888094
So who the hell would believe our story after this?
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>>35888105
gdi, of course I copy the wrong option, meant to say
>>35888061
>Take the chance to flee.
Time to de-ass the area with a quickness.
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>>35888061
>Take the chance to flee.
>>
>>35888061

>The Flanker looks like it's here to help. Assist it!
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>>35888112

Gun Cam.
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>>35888112
>implying we're telling anyone what happen
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>>35888112
Anyone who takes a brief glance at our plane.
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>>35888061
>The Flanker looks like it's here to help. Assist it!

Protect wingmates
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>>35888112
Pray we caught something in our gun cam.
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>>35888061
>Take the chance to flee.
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>>35888112
depends whether or not we got cameras on our bird cause if not, not a damn sole.
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>>35888112
If we have a guncam installed, that'd be our evidence.

Anyway, anybody know which particular ace has these colors for their flanker?
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>>35888112

The same people who would believe we knocked out 6 MiG-23's spamming missiles at close range
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>>35888061
>The Flanker looks like it's here to help. Assist it!
>>
>>35888112
>>35888134
Well, we could always "hypothetically" describe what we saw to our teacher, Detlef Fleisher.
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>>35888138

Theres no known ace combat named character with that livery on a Flanker...
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>>35888154
>Yo old man, i meet with strange F-15
>Oh, like what?
>Black wing tip, triangular emblem... Yo, old man you still there?

>>35888169
I know at least a Gundam character with such livery, but....
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>>35888169
I suppose.
...
Wait.
>Yellow and Black stripes
>Yellow and Black

Dangit, it's either
>A Yellow
>Another Belkan
>Roy Focker
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>>35888176
Does this character love coffee and has a shotgun for a hand?
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>>35888177
The Yellows only have Yellow colors on their wing tips (and some area), not as stripes.

>>35888190
And like Kebab with yougurt.
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>>35888198
But kebab with chili sauce is better!
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>>35888177
>>Roy Focker

> in a flanker

> not a F14

Shamfur Dispray!
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>>35888177
Maybe it's Karla's Dad?
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>>35888222
Hey, who's to say he wasn't rated for more planes besides the F-14 Kai? I mean, his instructor, Ivanov, was rated for a Sukhoi plane too...
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>>35888236
What was his father flying back then anyway?
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>>35888061
You decide enough is enough, and you hit your afterburners again to get as much distance between you and this odd furball as possible. However, thanks to the cloud cover, you lose track of how fast, how far, or even which direction you're going, but you keep going, as long as it means you're headed away from the Demon Lord.

"...Valk! VALK! Do you hear me?!" You hear Lara's concerned voice.

"I'm here." You say quickly, almost relieved to actually hear another voice, much less a friendly one. "Where the hell have you been?"

"Where the hell have YOU been?" Lara retorts. "I take my eyes off you and radar for one second and poof! You're gone! I was starting to think that Demon Edges stuff was real! Your plane is fine right?"

"I think I took a missile hit on the left side." You grunt. "Can you take a look for me?"

"Sure thing." You see Lara's Eagle barrel roll over your Phantom. "Huh, I don't see anything. Just a few cannon holes, but that's it."

"Really?" You blink, wondering if you were going insane.

"Yup. No major damage."

That was... weird. You were so sure your Phantom was on its last legs...

You shiver. You suddenly felt extremely cold, even in your climate controlled cockpit and insulated flightsuit.

>Tell Lara what happened. She seems eager to believe in that sort of thing.
>Don't tell her what happened. She'd never believe you.
>Other
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>>35888253
>>Tell Lara what happened. She seems eager to believe in that sort of thing
Doesn't hurt to try.
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>>35888253
>>Don't tell her what happened. She'd never believe you.
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>>35888112
"I'm telling you! I killed six migs in one salvo and then I fought the Demon Lord!"
"....Right. Let's get you to a doctor Karla."
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>>35888253
>Don't tell her what happened. She'd never believe you.

Nope. fuck that.
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>>35888253
>Don't tell her what happened. She'd never believe you.
definitely need a strong drink
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>>35888253
>>Don't tell her what happened. She'd never believe you.

HAHA! NOPENOPENOPE!
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>>35888253
>>Don't tell her what happened. She'd never believe you.
We need a drink or several before we speak of this again.
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>>35888253
>>Don't tell her what happened. She'd never believe you.
>>Other
Lara, wanna have a swig when we get home?
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>>35888253
>Don't tell her what happened. She'd never believe you.
Drinks. Lots of them. Blow a good chunk of pay on them.
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>>35888253
>>Tell Lara what happened. She seems eager to believe in that sort of thing.
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>>35888284
>>35888282
>>35888280
>>35888276
>>35888272
>>35888271
Then... WHO WAS FLANKER???

OH Gods, this is a foreshadowing of future events, is it?
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>>35888253
>>Don't tell her what happened. She'd never believe you.

>>35887929 Well time for me to be annoyed.
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>>35888253
>Other
"Hey, mind if I ask you something? Do you think the Demon Lord of the Round Table is still out there? Still fighting?"
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>>35888253

>TELL HER WE MET THE FUCKING ACES OF ACES AND LIVED
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>>35888253
>Tell Lara what happened. She seems eager to believe in that sort of thing.
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>>35888300

NEKKI BASARA WAS FLANKER

AND HE'S GONNA FUCKING MAKE THE DEMON LORD LISTEN TO HIS SONG
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>>35888253
>Tell Lara what happened. She seems eager to believe in that sort of thing.
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>>35888253
>>Tell Lara what happened. She seems eager to believe in that sort of thing.
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>>35888253
>>Don't tell her what happened. She'd never believe you.
Fuck that. She'll tell everyone on base. Last thing I would want.
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>>35888253
>Other
"Hey, mind if I ask you something? Do you think the Demon Lord of the Round Table is still out there? Still fighting?"
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>>35888253
>>Don't tell her what happened. She'd never believe you.
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>>35888253


>>>Tell Lara what happened. She seems eager to believe in that sort of thing.


ALL THE THINGSS
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>>35888253
>>Other
"...let me check my gun cam on base and see if i either go crazy or plain lucky today"
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>>35888253
>>Tell Lara what happened. She seems eager to believe in that sort of thing.
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>>35888253
>>Don't tell her what happened. She'd never believe you.
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>>35888253
Seconding >>35888332

Let's say nothing until we check our FDR and cam footage
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>>35888316
You.
I LIEK THE CUT OF YOUR SPEAKER PODS AND GUITAR CONTROLS.
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>>35888253
>>Tell Lara what happened. She seems eager to believe in that sort of thing.
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>>35888253
>Don't tell her what happened. She'd never believe you.
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>>35888300
I don't even know if it even matters at this point. I know it will later, but for now let's just get that cam footage and get wasted.
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>>35888332
check our cams and see how many drinks we need
if that never happened then a stiff drink will set us right
if the shit did happen then we're going to need to drink until we pass out
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>>35888360
>>35888364
Hopefully we won't wake up in someone's bed.
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>>35888364
>Drink till we pass out
Then we wake up the next day, and drink some more.
Rinse and Repeat until we forget we ever "met" the Demon Lord.
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Man, with those shop prices and the tiny payout from single fighters, we're never going to get anywhere especially when we have to repair our bird
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>>35888369
As long as we wake up in Lara's
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>>35888374
Don't worry, if we keep up our good rep, we'll be sent to more important places to fight meaning more cash and more chances of taking out superweapons.
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>>35888386
>Implying they'll end up in a bed
>WE'RE IN THE CLOSET intensifies
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>>35888364
If that never happened, then perhaps we really need to start question our live now.
Or just plain avoid that area in future.
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>>35888396
>more important places to fight
meaning harder enemies, meaning more damage to our plane, and less kills, meaning less money

meaning even less progression

like I said, we're never going to get anywhere unless we start getting payouts on jobs as well as kills, instead of just kills which is kind of stupid, we are employed by this company are we not?
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>>35888374
Why not take the loan? We get to fly nicer shit sooner, which means more kills.
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>>35888429
Well, in game itself we only get point by killing enemies.
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>>35888434
>>35888429
I say all these monetary difficulties is a given, considering the path we have chosen as knight of Glorious Belka.
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>>35888445
>>35888429
>>35888434
All Ace Styles are balanced in their own way

Knights have monetary issues and have access to high-end planes later to compensate
Mercs have access to better planes, but face tougher opponents with numerical superiority.
Soldiers are smack dab in the middle.
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>>35888434
Well I'd consider it if we knew anything about the loans, but anon just NOPE'd the fuck out without getting any details at all, not even just info on what it entails.

>>35888445
>>35888468
Point me to where Merc has posted saying the shit from a ps2 game is a mechanic in this quest, if you can't, shut the fuck up about that nonsense.
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>>35888445
>>35888468
What is this Ace Styles crap? I'm not seeing it anywhere in the pastebins or Merc's posts.

If you're talking about it from one of the games, then please stop because your just projecting them onto this quest and confusing people.
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>>35888482
You're in an Ace Combat Quest and you've never played Ace Combat...
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>>35888494
And? It appeals to me, and owning a PS3/4 does not.
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>>35888494
Not all of us have a access to a Playstation amigo.
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>>35888500
>ps3/4
Try PS2.
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>>35888468
So where/when did Merc introduce this in the quest at all?
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>>35888500
>>35888503
Then watch videos of it. Or have a PS2.
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>>35888505
>>35888507
Still not seeing where Merc stated that mechanic is in the quest...

You anons might want to stop forcing things into it and let Merc run it as he pleases.
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>>35888506
basically he never explicitly introduce it, but anons who play the game based their decisions from the game and Merc, i assume, just play along.
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>>35888515
There are several parts where he put it in the actions. Remember when we spared the plane and gave the explanation of why we did it?
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>>35888516
Until he outright explicitly states it, then its just stupidity to believe it, at that point your not playing the quest, your playing your own game in your head.

>basically he never explicitly introduce it
So it doesn't exist in this quest, right.
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>>35888523
And this somehow is evidence of a mechanic he's never mentioned existing instead of it just being an in character action?

Fuck off metagamers.
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>>35888253
You briefly consider telling Lara what just happened, but quickly quash that idea. She'd probably never believe you, anyways. However, there is one thing that you had to ask.

"Hey, Lara, have you ever seen a Flanker with an orange and black tiger stripe design?"

"Hmmmmm, can't say that I have." Lara responds. "Any reason why?"

"Not really." You sigh, deciding that you really needed a drink when you landed.

---

By the time you land back at base, you finally get an update from Angel about the supply convoy. Apparently, she and Amy were just barely able to make it. The airborne troops seized the ships without issue, and were redirecting them back to the mainland. Preliminary reports seemed to suggest they really were carrying supplies for the rebels. They were carrying everything an army needed, like food, medical supplies, and bullets. Apparently, one of the freighters was even hauling a number of aircraft and spare parts.

And thanks to Artemis' contract, it all belonged to the company now.

<<MISSION ACCOMPLISHED>>

KILLS
MiG-23: 800x6 = 2400

TOTAL FUNDS: $5700

---

However, when you asked Smokey to try and pull the guncam footage from your plane, it turned out that some of the cannon shells you got hit with during the dogfight with the Floggers shorted out your camera, so it wasn't working during your encounter with the Demon Lord, or whatever the hell that was.

You had a LOT of drinks that night. Thankfully, your wingmates thought it was to celebrate the six plane combo kill you got.

Still, the timely appearance of that Flanker. Something deep in your just couldn't let it go. Where did it come from? Why did you help? These were things you felt you needed to know.

(cont)
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>>35888523
>There are several parts where he put it in the actions
No he didn't anon, he wrote in character actions.
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>>35888531

Colonel Antonin was clearly not pleased.

"You mean to tell me, that almost an ENTIRE SQUADRON of Floggers was wiped out by a single plane?" He scowled, eying the three surviving pilots of the squadron he sent to escort one of his supply convoys.

"It.. it wasn't human!" One of the pilots stammer. "A Phantom straight out of the Demon Edges!"

"The Demon Edges are just a fairy tale!" Antonin spits, slapping the offending pilot and glaring at the other two. "I expect you to give me a PROPER after action report! Dismissed!"

Rubbing his head from a sudden migraine, Antonin made his way back to his quarters, where he saw one of the mercenary aces he hired, Lancer. The same man who lost his wingman a few days ago.

"Got jumped by a Phantom?" He said.

"It could have been anything." Antonin grunted. "The few men I have left are young and superstitious. They believe in the most ridiculous of things!"

"Well, if you find out anything, let me know, all right?" Lancer grunts as he steps out of Antonin's path. "I got a score to settle."

Antonin decided that once he got back to his quarters, he was going to get a drink. Or several.

>And that's it for tonight! Next Ace Combat will be his Tuesday! Don't forget Cyberpunk Idols on Saturday and PJ Witches on Sunday!
>HOWEVER, due to weekend plans, I will NOT be able to run quests during Veteran's Day weekend. The soonest I can run again after that weekend will Probably be November 11th, which I'll probably run a make up thread for either Cyberpunk Idols or PJ Witches. I'll keep you guys updated on that!
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>>35888531
>TOTAL FUNDS: $5700
Almost 1/3 the way to the glorious Viggen
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>>35888539
Looks like we found ourselves a new rival.
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>>35888539
Thanks for the run Merc

Any chance you can clarify the anons arguing about Ace Styles or whatnot and whether its something in the quest or not?
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>>35888539
Thanks for the run boss. Any hint on glorious flanker pilot?

>Lancer

I'm liking the new rival already.
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>>35888539
We need a new plane if only to fuck with these people.
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>>35888529
Yeah, it is. Not so much a mechanic as a theme. Also look at Merc's previous quests.
>>35888536
Okay, so we spared the guy and we gave the explanation of why we did it. In those two explanations, we effectively went down knight path. He's done this in more than one quest.
>>35888539
Thanks for running!
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>>35888549
Ace Styles is not an explicit mechanic. The reason planes are worth so little right now is because they're basically starting enemies. More advanced planes or planes flown by Aces will naturally be much more valuable.
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>>35888558
Thanks for clarifying that.

>>35888555
How about you shut up and stop putting words in his mouth.
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>>35888568
I'm not saying it's a mechanic. I'm saying it's a theme. Which it is.
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All these arguments about ace styles...

We should be more concerned in uncovering the persona behind the Flanka
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>>35888531
>KILLS
>MiG-23: 800x6 = 2400
>
>TOTAL FUNDS: $5700
We're slowly getting there, should be 5-7 more missions like that to afford a Viggen.

>>35888539
Thanks Merc, cya in the next thread.

>>35888586
Yep, anons need to stop metagaming and play the character.
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>>35888579
See >>35888558
Until he specifies how much money we get for targets that don't fly, it isn't even that. Please stop going on about it.
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>>35888601
>should be 5-7 more missions like that to afford a Viggen.
derp, meant 3-5, should be 5-7 total at those rough payout rates and kill tallies
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>>35888601
>We're slowly getting there, should be 5-7 more missions like that to afford a Viggen.
That's a looong time in a story. We'd be better off taking out a loan before Lancer grudge matches us.
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>>35888606
It kind of is. It's the character we are playing. A knight in the air.
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>>35888586
Andrew Waltfield or BUST!
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Just taking a look at the price list here.

>F-20 Tigershark - 15000
>Saab 37 Viggen - 16000
>F-16 Falcon - 20000
>F-18 Hornet - 20000

>Quick Air to Air Missile (QAAM) - 20000: A highly advanced, extremely maneuverable, very accurate missile.

Woah. That's one expensive missile package.
It doesn't happen to have the ability to fire itself backwards given the expense, does it? Damn Gelb team A.I. always pulling off that one trick.
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>>35888609
See >>35888607 I derped.

So it shouldn't be that long, maybe 4-5 threads unless we hit some juicier targets
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>>35888610
Oh shut up already.
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>>35888606
He has. We have the skill Honor System, right in the pastebin, that gives us half the value for enemies we let retreat.
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>>35888612
>DESERT TIGER
>IN muh Strangereal

Pal, you best be joking, because if that really WAS him, I'll have to ask for another ace to come in...
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>>35888641
That is still not the Aces Styles mechanic, for fucks sake, read his words, the mechanic is not there, so stop projecting it.
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>>35888642
I have no objection on this.
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>>35888641
>hurr durr what is in-character traits

fuck off metagamer
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>>35888655
Come to think of it, Woolf from AGE is here already. Maybe we could accomodate a few other UC aces as well...
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>>35888613
I say we go for the Viggen, then maybe the XLAA missiles, then focus on getting a Grippen
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>>35888661
>>35888652
It's not a fucking mechanic. It never was a mechanic. In order to enable the theme, and because we chose the theme, that mechanic was enacted. Go back and read the thread yourself.
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>>35888672
Yes. Sounds good.
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>>35888652
No. Regardless of what merc said, thatis the ace styles mechanic.

From some shitty wiki
>A pilot who lives for pride and honor, a Knight Ace spares all defenseless (yellow) targets, such as, but not limited to, transports and neutralized aircraft.
That's exactly what Honor System is.
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>>35888683
>It never was a mechanic
>that mechanic was enacted

u wot m8?
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>>35888671
This is Ace Combat Quest though. I'd welcome some of Gundam Aces but not all.

>>35888652
It basically a justification for 'Knight' Aces style at any rate.
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>>35888672
>>35888689
But what about Rafale???
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>>35888690
>No. Regardless of what merc said, thatis the ace styles mechanic.
...

So regardless of what the guy running the quest says, you say that it exists when he says otherwise?

Go backseat QM elsewhere, play the character not the fucking setting.
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>>35888708
Rafale can suck Grippen's dick.

>>35888690
>Regardless of what merc said, thatis the ace styles mechanic.
Anon, stop, just shut up already about this, because you're fucking retarded.
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>>35888708
Neutral. I would prefer Grippen personally.
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>>35888707
Well, if that were the case, maybe...
>Anavel Gato, duh
>Mu La Flaga, because Hawk of Endymion and stuff
>Post-Mindfuck Kamille Bidan
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>>35888672

Screw that

At that price level, we might as well aim for the F16 or F18.

Especially considering that Karla has a stated pref for murrican planes.
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>>35888723
>>35888718
I have no hate for Swede air designs (dat Biafra Baby, mmhmm), but at least consider the Rafale as a mid-point or backup plane, guys.
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>>35888728
>Post-Mindfuck Kamille Bidan
not as pilot, but maybe as one of ground crew?

And no Yazan Gable on enemy side, in Either Mig-31 or Tomcat?
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>>35888690
>Skills:
>Honor System: When allowing a damaged plane to retreat, you gain half the reward you would have gotten for destroying it.

That isn't a mechanic jackass, it is a single skill that allows us to partially recoup the monetary loses of not shooting enemy pilots in the back as they flee. That's basically just a small bonus, nothing like a central gameplay mechanic.
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>>35888752
Yeah, I think Kamille would be a nice crew chief.

>Forgetting one of the best UC villains in the history of ever
I must sudoku for such a transgression!!!
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>All of this retarded debate about monetary and aces style.
Well, at least this not devolve into GMO discussion and shit.

>>35888770
Just praying that Merc will include him on this quest is better penance, my son.
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>>35888766
And the point of that bonus was to enable the knight style because that's what we chose.
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>>35888752
>Yazan meets Karla for the first time
>A girl will be my opponent?! Pshaw! IMA VIOLATE YOU
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>>35888766
At this rate we might escort some damaged planes outside the killzone, maybe protecting them from Alpha Flight, as they give off a very merc like feel.
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>>35888785
Rolling for the chances that such an inclusion will occur
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Rolled 4 (1d10)

>>35888799
>>35888785
Damn, forgot my roll
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>>35888789
>Gato on an F-15E with Tactical Nuclear.
>ESTOVAKIA.I.HAVE.RETURNED!

>Mwu on F-16 Block 60 as mentor
>Don't you know Karla? I am the man who make the impossible possible.
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>>35888785
Don't forget the sunhats!


Holy crap that entire discussion was hilarious. I'd be okay with that happening at the end of every thread.
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>>35888816
To keep up with things, Gato would be flying an experimental fighter equipped with a TacNuke, or, if possible, other experimental weapons, like TLS or Burst Missiles.

I dunno about Mu in a Desert Falcon though. He's Navy (well, Space Navy), so wouldn't a 'Cat or another Phab Phantom work?
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>>35888797
Yeah that's Wolf's squad right? I wonder what their deal is. Gloryhounding assholes or straight up mercs? No offense OP.
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>>35888841
If anything, Woolf here may be like his canon persona in his home series, a lecherous but trusty pilot who will be the MC's doomed mentor.
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>>35888816
>"I am sick of aces and their lies!"
>"My name is Judau... Currently skipping flight simulations!"
>"This F-22 isn't just for show!"
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>>35888859
>"I am sick of aces and their lies!"
But Kamille will be a ground chief-friend of ours!
>"My name is Judau... Currently skipping flight simulations!"
As expected of you, Ashta. Hue.

>"This F-22 isn't just for show!"
>Implying Amuro won't fly an ADLER
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>>35888840
Well, if we substitute Nuke with Laser we got many candidate here. Morgan, Falken, Nightraven.

and i forget what is Mwu branch of service, but Phantom or Tomcat will fit too.

>>35888859
>This is no Fishbed girl! No Fishbed! (While piloting Mig-21-93)
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>>35888741
>Especially considering that Karla has a stated pref for murrican planes.
Not really
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>>35888787
>knight style
But it is not a style. It is a small bonus that only applies in very rare circumstance. Unless we start getting paid for killing Logistical or civilian targets, then it will scarcely ever come up.
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>>35888746
well problem is the Rafale and Grippen compete on roughly the same level, and I'd rather a Grippen

>>35888766
Speaking of that, I've not seen a payout for that yet, and we've let planes go and flee, like those three Floggers in this thread, and in the previous thread.

Merc, can you explain how this skill works and how we get paid for it?
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>>35888787
No it wasn't, you didn't choose anything for fucks sake.

If you think you 'chose' something just because our character got a skill that fits them, then you clearly ain't reading this quest and are making shit up.
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>>35888922
Through making our choices, the skill was granted. We did not vote directly on the skill, but it was the result of our choices. Hence we chose it. Is this hard to understand?
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>>35888886
Precisely. Gato will make his way to a South Belkan Factory and steal a super plane.

And we'll be there waiting for him.

>This is no Fishbed girl! No Fishbed!
Pic related.

>>35888913
I can't argue with that, I guess.

But my point still stands.
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>>35888841
We've seen nothign of them other than they are the best and have planes and skills to match
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>>35888935
>We did not vote directly on the skill, but it was the result of our choices. Hence we chose it.
Good god you are retarded.

Hust the fuck up already about it, go play your PS2 if you want that crap, because it ain't in this quest.

Goddamn fucking metagaming tards.
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>>35888935
>Hence we chose it.
>You run too fast down some stairs, trip and fall down them
>B-BUT WE CHOSE TO FALL DOWN THOSE STAIRS GUISE

Fuck off.
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>>35888949
Look... If we had chosen a different pair of choices at that one part, the skill would have been different. I'm sorry you can't wrap your skull around that.
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>>35888964
I can wrap my head around it fine, it still doesn't change the fact you're projecting the PS2 game onto Merc's quest and making shit up trying to justify your arguments and reasoning.
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>>35888960
How about this
>I choose to always take a right hand turn in a game
>As a result, the DM gives my character a bonus at turning right
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>>35888913
That skill only applies to crippled enemies who are in retreat. The three floggers were in perfect shape before we had our wingwomen blow them away. It doesn't count as merciful if you just have your allies make the kill instead.
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>>35888972
You don't even know what you're talking about. Okay, follow this train of logic:
We made our character a knight in the air. Hence we got a bonus for doing knightly shit
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>>35888937
Hahaha.
If you have suggestion for better plane then i want to know. Something which could be mistaken for low-tier plane but have better spec.

...oh wait, F-5 and F-20...

>>35888949
Its a moot point since for metagamer, that skills is present to accommodate the metagamer style of choice already.
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>>35888993
>Ral in a Tiger or Tigershark

That could work if we don't have Shin Kazama on board.
Otherwise, I'd go for either
>Delta Dagger
>Delta Dart
>Thunderchief
>Skyhawk
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