Welcome to the X installment of "Disney Villains Victorious."Disney Villains Victorious is a new /tg/ homebrew project based on the idea of a world, not entirely unlike our own, in which all the villains from all the Disney animated feature films were not defeated at the ends of their movies but were instead victorious, completing their goals in part or in whole.It is a world in which Ursula rules the seas, defied only by the uncatchable Pirate Lords and the might of Atlantis and its magitech-toting mercenaries. It is a world where the grasslands and jungles and forests are prowled not only by fearsome primal beasts like Shere Kahn and Scar but also by the ruthless, tireless hunters that stalk them. It is a world where Europe has been divvied up between evil sorcerous queens like Maleficent and mad, inquisitorial clergymen like Frollo, and Dark Gods like Hades and Chernobog, pictured here.It is not, however, a world completely devoid of courage, heroism or hope. Around the world, the PCs' characters and their allies plot and plan, fight and strive and win their own victories against the villains that would rule them. The time to fight and to be free is now.http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=Disney+Villains+Victorioushttp://1d4chan.org/wiki/Disney_villains_victorious
Reposting: http://pastebin.com/P1WAFpSeThe Kings/Lands/Rules so far that I could find.
So is Falcifer boning Madame Medusa in Louisiana? And Cruella de Vil hanging around Judge Doom in NY sporting a fetching ginger cat-skin hat?
>>36070014You know, the "pictured here" part of the pasta does not work so well if you don't include any of the listed villains, just saying.
>>36070014Okay guys, i think we need to start working on inter-villain relationships, more villian characterization, how nations interact, and finish fleshing out the setting
>>36070080So far, Cruella is in aussie, making clothes out of the beasts that the hunters guild kills. I imagine madam Medusa might be a lieutenant to Facillier
>>36070046>http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=Disney+Villains+VictoriousHorned King KLRhttp://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/36056960/#p36059197Maleficent KLR, continues at 36059223.
As the new thread arises, so must some men rest.Don't lose hope ya'll, but I need sleep. I shall return with the sun to lend my aid once more to the glorious cause. Good luck
>>36070098Global domination is an eventual goal for a lot of the villains, the ones that aren't all about otherworldly power.The more aggressive ones like Shan Yu and Ratcliffe might be openly warring without hiding much.The schemers like Hades, Jafar, Ursula and Dr. Facilier are probably aware of each others' plans, but they still play the game of civility around each other.
so someone mind summarizing threads 9 & 10 for me, on a fluff level that is, don't give a damn about the crunch(in fact I believe we shouldn't have gone down the crunch road, and should have focused purely on the fluff, this just kills /tg/ projects most of the time)
>>36070080Actually Judge Doom is mayor of DOOMtown that's on the West Coast.So, expect Cruella going out for a business meeting with Bill Sykes over there. Virginia's too hick-ish, and New York is full of Atlantean Crystals that are SO last year.
>>36070211and obviously I meant threads 8 & 9 not 9 & 10
>>36070211We plan on making an actual game and system for this, you can't just do that with only fluffThe crunch has considerably slowed down the project but people are still working on this. Besides, the fluff hasn't really stopped coming, just also slowed down a bit
>>36070211There has been a slowdown in the threads when we focused solely on crunch, so there's been talk of striking a balance to keep interest up
>>36069608The Wild West is, naturally, incapable of having a coherent foreign policy. The border with the Shadowlands is porous, and marked by incessant raiding; the two nations simply slowly shade into each other. There are people and towns who are at once both and neither. Some habits of the Shadowlanders have percolated through into the Wild West; many mark significant debts and duties, such as gang membership, marriage vows, or the mark of the man who saved your life, with tattoos, although they are not magical as they would be in the Shadowlands. (Western habits, unfortunately, have a much harder time penetrating into the hideously structured shadowlands.) Anarchy is total, but society staggers on; the end result looks vaguely like actual libertarianism. Relationships with Tzekel-Kan are still worse; punitive expeditions in response to raids are frequent, but entire towns simply melt away before the columns can reach them. Almost always, the expeditions return empty-handed, and with less men than they started out with. Trade with other realms (insofar as they can reach them) is totally unregulated. >>36070098Working on it!>>36070229Actually actually, DOOMtown was destroyed and turned into the DOOMroads, a fast but unreliable means of transport between realms. As far as I know, anyway.
>>36070211If you just do fluff, what does it matter?besides, character creation is done, for Humans at least. You can make and use viable characters.
>>36070310Keep up the good fight. Speaking, we might wanna flesh out Eldorado and its rulers, especially if we want to give them a chance against the gun toating west, Yzma's potion monsters and Facilliers shadows. Also, i do argue that the west does make trade, but via independent ranchers and miners. The Old West was famous for its gold mines and cattle runs, so i reckon that some foolish ranchers might try to do cattledrives to the Hungry denizens of Virginia or more likely DOOMtown or some Gold miners might be willing to get into trade contacts with Eldorado or the Sunless Empire.
>>36070310So, apart from every homestead having to send money to Alameda Slim, lest they get a visit from Rico, it's pretty much open?Do the Friends just have less interest in the large expanses of plains? Or are they unable to get a grip on the lands where an Atlantean Gun is Law?
>>36070310 i remember that it wasn't DOOMtown that was destroyed, but Toontown.
>>36070416Lot less shadows in the open plains than in the bayou.
>King JohnThis deposed ruler lurks in the court of Scar, imploring the Pridelands to take a vested interest in restoring a Lion ruler in distant England. Scar has little time for the former King but sees nothing wrong with stringing him along. Who knows? Maybe someone will take care of the Horned King and the power vacuum will allow John to reclaim his throne? Scar isn't banking on it but stranger things have happened.>King LeonidasDisgruntled with his relatively tiny realm, the King of Naboombu is desperately searching for a soft target to invade. The fractured state of India looks ripe for some leonine intrusion but the fearsome reputation of Shere Khan has the blustering King scared. He hopes that brokering an alliance with the imposing ruler of the Pridelands will give him the clout he needs to expand and upset the delicate balance of power.>SaborThis fierce and deadly warrior is a constant presence in Queen La's court in Western Africa. Known to have a taste for human flesh and an unstable personality, she is feared and respected in equal measure. Sabor is being courted by both Scar and Shere Khan, who desire her formidable fighting force and impressive influence in the Land of the Leopard. Her loyalties lie firmly with her Queen but any decisions she makes concerning the her suitors will have considerable ramifications across the African and Indian territories.>The Cheshire CatSomething of an anarchist, this traveller moves freely between Kingdoms causing trouble for the establishment. His chaotic nature and unpredictability make him a constant thorn in various paws and many is the ruler that would like to see his taunting smile snuffed out for good.>FeliciaA domineering force that lurks within the Horned King's realm, supporting her beloved master, Professor Ratigan. Vicious and spiteful, Felicia posses a vast sense of self-worth but a simple mind.
>>36070416An earlier post mentioned that they have a harder time on the wide open plains than in the forests and bayous of Louisiana. There's nothing for them to hide in, or at least very little. Makes getting found out and run off (however you run off a shadow fiend) much easier.
>>36070411>Illegal cattledrives to the Hungry denizens of VirginiaThere's an adventure hook if I've heard one.Also, there's probably some Debtors who make very good money buying goods from the West and selling them to Virginia.
>>36070310personally I don't like the Doomroads idea, and think Doomtown is more interesting, especially if it still has an active link to the Toon home dimension, since that could be one path to obtain help>>36070411well considering the sort of magic Tzelkan was capable of doing through sacrificing just one person(bringing to life a giant Jaguar statue under his complete control), just imagine what he can do with potentially millions of people under his control...
>>36070463>just imagine what he can do with potentially millions of people under his control...Wasn't that called Aztechnology?
>>36070098Horned King thinks of most of the other villains as surmountable obstacles on his path to apotheosis - the more powerful ones being admittedly quite large obstacles. The exception is Hades, who he harbours a deep, envious hatred for.He occasionally assaults the lands of the fae, the Pontifex and the Mirror Kingdom as part of a recruitment drive. These have, ironically, helped rebel groups in these area more than they have hindered them, as they kill off guards, inquisitors and faerie warriors. There are some rebel groups who even try to incite Cauldron-Born assaults on areas with large numbers of Royal soldiers.
>>36070416Well think about the people that live in the west. They are the pioneers, the homesteaders, the outlaws, the independents basically. They are the people who'd rather live free, albeit dangerous lives in the lawless west. They also probably know what the friends are via escapees and the Slim Gang, and understandably, keep them away with little rustic icons and tokens of such, like a Long horn skull or lucky horse shoe over the door to tge house.Also, consider the landscape of the Old west itself. Its a just miles and miles and miles of either flat prairies or desert, and the sun and moon are always beating down on the land. That leaves little room for the Friends to gain a foothold, compared to the dark swamps and cities of Louisiana. And thats to say nothing of the plain old vast distances between towns and ranches, and the Slim gang who'll go on alert when people start talking about living shadows
>>36070098>>36070177>Facilier: Well now, I'm surprised you actually showed. You have to admit, the bayou is the best neutral ground 'tween land and sea.>Ursula: A heartwarming gesture, but let's not pretend I'm here for a friendly visit.>F: Pretendin' is half the trade. I'm after a certain prize, and I got a tip that she might be somewhere in your depths.>U: Rather nosy of you not to ask, doctor, but I'm a fair dealer. What might you be looking for?>F: A girl by the name of Wendy Darlin'.>U: ...and what makes you so sure that she's in my oceans?>F: I came across some lost souls that were very interested in her fate, these boys claimed she met that fate over the side of a ship.>U: Oh, she might be in my oceans somewhere, but who can say for sure? This is all wishful thinking, of course, since you have little to offer me. Your "friends" aren't as charitable to poor souls as I am.>F: Nothin' you want, is there? Everythin's just dandy in your undersea paradise, hm? Now I could've sworn that you'd been havin' troubles with a certain... president these days.>U: Rourke is a puffer fish, filled with bravado and hopes. His Atlantis can't last.>F: And yet you're at a loss to rid the seas o' him. No, what you need is a hand on the inside. Somethin' to turn the tide, as they say.>U: Hm... you'll sink Atlantis and then I'll find you this girl... now what would you want with such an insignificant soul?>F: I'll need the girl first, actually, part of the plan, you understand.>U: Understand that we both play the same game, darling, and it's bad business to lend on credit. I can't give out prizes for something you can't deliver on.>F: Suit yourself. Perhaps I'll offer again once Rourke's fleet delves a bit deeper. Course, the price'll be higher by then, and you'd be in my debt. And bein' in debt to the Friends is bad business too.
>>36070595Oooh, i like that.
>Yes...>Yes, my soldiers>Soon the whole world will be mine>The evil power that courses through my veins>Shall make them Cauldronborn>Yes...>Yes, oh yes!>Then they shall worship me!>Me...>Oh, my soldiers, how long I have thirsted to be this god among mortal men...
>>36070595Motherfucker, the whole debt mechanic is just making me all giddyNow every time I hear the world I'm going to think about how badass a whole campaign in Black Louisiana would be, evading the shadows, exchanging favors with all the care in the world, entering silently in distilleries and private places to find a good payment for a Friend....All the whiel voodoo marks appear on your skin every time you get yourself a new debt. And you know that the logner they stay there, the more likely you are to see your own shadow turn on you.
>>36070265>game and systemWhy bother?Nothing in this setting requires new rules. 90% of existing roleplaying game systems can handle this setting.
>>36070416Something like that, yeah.>>36070428Wait. There's a difference? >>36070310The Sunless Empire has three neighbors: Panama, controlled by Atlantis, Ursula's domain, and the Refuge of the Fair. She desperately wants to expand- she's running out of places to put giant monuments to her own greatness- but all of them pose problems. Atlantis is a no-go- her monsters may be tough, but they're still flesh and bone- even their massed divisions of conventional artillery would shred them. The Refuge of the Fair poses its own difficulties- the monsters she sends over there have an annoying tendency of turning back into humans. So, Ursula it is! Old squid probably won't even notice the loss of a bit of land, she's so obsessed with her oceans. Trade is nearly nonexistent- there is some, but it all goes through Yzma herself, and is totally focused on things that would be useful for building more monuments. Sultanate illusions, Atlantean earthmovers... but this, too, is crippled a bit by her refusal to part with anything shiny. All gold, all gems, all reserved for the monuments!
>>36070744Damn, look at those typos.Bed for me
>>36070782Well, the entirety of the city in rodger rabbit wasn't toontown. Doom just rules over that, and the DOOMroads.
>>36070782still think we should have her have her original Kingdom of The Sun motivation about snuffing out the Sun; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=374xW4zZbZA
>>36070871We're not calling it the Sunless Empire for no reason, anon
>>36070871heck I just realized that would place Yzma's kingdom in direct opposition with Tzelkan's as his might be the only Sorcerous Domain to directly benefit from the sun(since due to his Meso-American beliefs putting a lot of emphasis on the sun's importance)>>36070949true, just no one brings it up
>>36070971That does raise some intresting conflicts between the two. Perhaps Eldorado makes use of hired mercs from the west while Yzma barters with the free fae
>>36070782The Domain of the Fair is a realm under siege. Nearly every villain wants to snuff it out; Cauldronborn in their skin ships, Jafar's living mirages, bloody constructs from Tzekel-Kan, monsters from Tartarus, monsters from the Sunless Empire, shadows. The Fair have their own powers, but reduced in this cruel, sick world, and they are slowly losing.>>36071021>>36070971>>36070949Come to think of it. Wouldn't no sun whatsoever mean Facilier would be all over her shit?
>>36071219I think we need a general outline of which villains are allied with whom and against whom.
"Governor Rothborn, I thought I ordered you to have Siam fortified months ago! Why, pray tell, are you back in my office with hat in hand and your tail between your legs?"'Chairman, sir. I... we did as you ordered. We cut down the forest and began building forts. We had started unloading our stockpiles from the ships when our foraging parties started disappearing""Yes, and?""Well, sir, we sent out an expedition to try and find them. Fifty men in total. They were ordered to sweep the forests... and. Well, sir, you see... only one returned. He spoke of... the king of the monkeys, sir.""Are you jesting me, Rothborn?""No, sir! I thought he had gone mad! He had gone mad! He came back dancing, crazed, hearing some sort of wild music. We put him in the hold on the ship while he told us what happened: a red ape with a court of monkeys. He said something about a great red flower.""Are you telling me that you ran away because of some ghost story told by a deranged man? Are you telling me that is why our holdings in Siam are currently in complete disarray!?""No sir. After some time, we all started hearing the music too... drums and bugles. Some of the new recruits, the boys from Hong Kong, they started dancing, just like the man from the expedition did. After days, the entire colony was in a mad frenzy. They had abandon their posts and then...""Yes? Come on, man, speak up!""The monkeys. Thousands of them They came from the jungle, holding firebrands. They set fire to everything. The walls, the barracks, even most of the ships. I could do nothing but watch in horror... the men were set ablaze, but they still danced, screaming in agony, and the monkeys began to hoot and holler, as if they were laughing at us and our misery. And then...""Yes? Yes what is it!?""The gunpowder hold, sir, they found the gunpowder hold."
>>36071219>"Do you know what no sun means, Knonk?">"Well, farming will go down the tube, we'll have to start stocking Vitamin-E potions-">"Even better! There will be no light to cast shadows on the Shadowlands! Without shadows to back him up, Facilier and his land will be easy pickings! It's brilliant!">evil laughter
Is Calypso still bound in mortal form?
>>36071466I imagine her and Mama Odie as voodoo roommates after Facilier booted her from the Shadowlands.
>>36071333You forgot a couple of "Brilliant!"s there.
>>36071510I'm just asking, because Calypso might take exception to Ursula.Hmm...recovering the Pieces of Eight to free Calypso so she can stop Atlantis, Ursula, and the EITC. Or at least hurt them.Good adventure hook.
>>36071585If you've got the time/ideas, could you cook up some adventure hooks to seed the world with?also: role bonuses have been compiled here: http://pastebin.com/fj58NSYMCredit, as always, goes to Anonymous.
>>36071666Mozenrath has resurrected the PCs using a new spell that makes them nearly good as new, he commands them to join his army to usurp Jafar. Players have to decide if they want to either help the necromancer, or find a way to break free of Mozenrath's control and escape, before he gets them killed...again.The Slim Gang has paid the PCs to deliver an item to Virginia. Discreetly. Which means they have to get through the Shadowlands, and that item is the type that makes certain individuals very UNfriendly.The Deposed Prince Hans Westerguard is sending you to Weselton. (Also frozen) In order to reclaim certain items that he needs to help the Southern Isles, so he claims. (This is a basic one, Villain A sends you into Bad Place so you can get MacGuffin. Once you get MacGuffin, you can try and take it for yourself and deliver it to the Blue Fairy/Resistance/Etc.)An easy way to get out of debt from the Friends? Rescue slaves from the Virginia mines. Too bad the mine you chose is guarded by Atlantean Elites. But the Friends don't accept excuses as payment.If you wish to set up a trade agreement with the Huns, you have to give tribute. What do they take for acceptable tribute? Tiger skins, monkey pelts, and jaguar feet. Hunting trip!So you pissed off a Fae, but they thought you were funny. So now you get to see their version of a joke. You wake up naked in the Pridelands. Have fun getting back home!Calypso, the Bound Goddess of the Sea. Surely she'd fight against those that would claim to her dominion? All you need are the fabled Pieces of Eight, and you can unleash an angry Goddess...that's a good thing, right?I'm working on more.
"The President will see you now, Governor.""Ah, Governor Ratcliffe. I had heard you might be in the area, but I thought you were here to deal with the local exchange.""Yes, well, normally I would but for the deal I hoped to make I thought it would be wise to go straight to the top, as it were. We've found several new deposits in the mountains, you know.""Really now? Well I am a busy man, but you already knew that so this must be significant. What have you found?""Iron, Bauxite, and copper. Rich veins, or so I'm told. Enough that we could easily increase our yearly exports to Atlantis by 50% or more.""You're speaking my language Governor, but this is all well within the scope of the New York exchange office, so why are you here?""Well you see, the outcroppings we found on the western slopes. Still well within Greater Virginia, of course, but-""But you're seeing raiders come up from the Louisiana. I see now, you want me to send troops to defend the mines, don't you.""Oh no! Of course not; I know that you have far too many concerns for a... small problem in the continental interior. If they were properly armed the Militia could easily defend themselves. That's what I'm here for, if you were to approve a deal in which I could get a small number of your beam weapons w-""Out of the question, Governor. We've talked about this already, you know our policy already.""Yes, but surely for such a dramatic increase in production capability you could consider making an exception just this once?""Even the handful of rifles you're asking for represent more than your entire yearly mineral export, Governor Ratcliffe. However, I think we might still be able to make some kind of deal. I'm willing to provide triple the usual investment of floodlights and generators to keep the shadow fiends back. For the more human raiders coming out of the Shadowlands, well, I think I can solve that too. Tell me, Mr. Ratcliffe, have you seen the specifications of our new M2 yet?"
>>36071990Getting this down to post size was annoying. It was originally 200 characters over the limit.I've got a couple of plot hook ideas too.Your caravan has been hired by the East India Company to pick up a shipment of crates in Morocco and carry them to Athens, no questions asked. You're being payed far above the going rate, even for a trip into Greece; but you've been told in no uncertain terms that unpleasant things will happen if your contacts in Athens think you've opened the shipment.You're the crew of one of the Pirate King's ships. Raid cities and villages up and down the coast; dodge cannon, arrows and occasionally blue lightning, and if things get too hairy (or if some of the Sea Witch's minions show up that are too big to handle) have your fairy do her stuff and take to the sky!Your party discovers an Atlantean special forces team cut off from their extraction on the coast. They promise you safe passage out of whichever hell-hole you currently call them home if you can take a mysterious package to a place of local importance to your overlord and then get them to the coast discreetly.
>>36071990Nice, he may be President, but Rourke is in it for profit first and foremost.
Is the EITC capable of sailing the seas proper, or are they limited to the coastlines?
>>36072132I thought it was said somewhere that they'd cut some sort of deal with Ursula. Paying her tribute to let them cross the seas in specific places and in limited numbers.It's small compared to what they used to have, sure, but it still gives them a near-monopoly on world trade, as the Atlanteans aren't big in the mass shipping business.
>>36071881McLeah, Clayton, and Gaston are always up for a round of The Deadliest Game. (Most popular show in DOOMtown!) And guess who's the lucky contestant? Reasons range from 'desperately needed the money' to 'kidnapped!'Good news! You've got the intel you need to help the Resistance/DotF/Slightly Less Evil to pull off a victory. Bad News! King Ratigan's spy rats have discovered it too! It's a race to deliver the truth and to stop the other.In Grimhilde's palace, there are mirrors. All of them powerful. Some of them old and cracked. The PCs discover a shard of a mirror. How do they use it's power? Will it corrupt them? And what happens when the Queen wants it back?The Pontifex's missionaries are bothering Virginians again. Your job is to go and deal with it...or maybe...you want to help start the fires. The enemy of my enemy...All. You wanted. To do. Was buy. Some Milk. (In DOOMtown...things escalated quickly.)There are some odd tales about Maleficent. Most are nightmarish. Most are true. However...there's one that doesn't seem to go away. One where she isn't so bad...and has wings. Is this story true? Does it hold Maleficent's weakness? Or are they talking about a different Faerie, with a similar name? Maybe an ally?There's a group of people who will join the Resistance...but they want one thing first. They live/lived in the lands of the Horned King, and now their loved ones are Cauldronborn. Once those corpses rest, they'll lend their swords to your cause...and they are sorely needed.The Sunless Empire and the Golden Kingdom of El Dorado have always been at war. Construct vs Potion-legion. One of their upper leaders is tired of fighting, and wants to defect. They have secrets to share. Now all you have to do is get to them before the other side, or their own side, does.
>>36070595>Hey, well isn't this nice, my two favorite schemers. I haven't seen you two this buddy-buddy since Gothel set up shop. I couldn't help but overhear this little stalemate, and I think I've got just the thing to stir up your little plot pot.>Now you, my sorceress cephalopod, have what we in the underworld call a pest problem. And these pests happen to be flying high above your little sphere of influence, pillaging and plundering and pirating to their black hearts' content. Not really good PR for the undisputed queen of the seas, am I right? And you, tall, dark and festive, want to have a little chat with that one-armed bandit about his magical past, and I don't mean the slots in Alameda Slim's casino. Jimmy's a smart boy though, so what you two need is a sure-fire advantage.>It just so happens that advantage showed up on my doorstep not so long ago. That peppy little sprite has been zipping around the river Styx for a while now, irritating Cerberus, messing with the Fates, all in all a poor houseguest. Lights up like a bat out of hell if you mention what Cap'n Hook did to his little friends, and let me tell you, I'd love to get that bat out of hell, but the kid's got nothing to offer. You two, though, might be able to cover him in exchange for a search-and-destroy boy straight for Captain Shakespeare up there.>Now everyone's got problems, I've got problems, take for example Mr. Holier-Than-Everyone Pontifex. Doesn't listen to a word I say, the guy's got a lot of cojones for a cuckold, but he's starting to be a real pain in the tuchus. Got some off-the-books immortality, and that doesn't sit well with my career outlook. Sure, you can let it slide every now and again, that Horned King has been a real pal in dumping the souls to keep the bodies. They just don't make necromancers like that anymore.>So here's the bargain, one of you puts pressure on Torquemada, and I give you a week of pirate hunting with the kid. Whaddya say, any takers?
>>36072434I read every word in his voice. Lost it at the line about not making necromancers like that any more.10/10 would give Greece
>>36072154Right. The Pirate Lords cannot be understood outside of the EIC, and vice versa. The EIC are the undisputed masters of shipping. Sure, the Atlanteans may have their submarines and airships, the Sultanate their occasional flying ship or fey path, but all are strictly limited in cargo space; for bulk, you have to go to the EIC. (Atlantis can't do bulk at all; Ursula has forbidden the EIC from carrying Atlantean cargo, as a way of striking back against that bastard Rourke. (She has not, however, banned shipments to Virginia. Ursula's grasp on land geography is not the best.)) They may no longer have quite the carrying capacity they once did, but they have an effective monopoly. The shareholders grow fat. Except for the Pirate Lords. Swooping out of the sky or unfolding from strange spaces, they strike with overwhelming force and then vanish as swiftly as they arrived, sometimes taking entire ships with them as plunder. Oh, the Pirate Lords strike other targets too, occasionally, but they love nothing more than to torment the EIC. Nothing they've tried to stem the tide of losses has worked as well as they've liked, and they grow increasingly desperate in their search for a way to strike back. However, everyone they've talked to either has no idea on where Neverland is- or know exactly how much that information is worth, and is holding out for a better offer- or simply waiting for the EIC to swallow their pride and beg properly. It's an odd little game of chicken; each player holding out for the best price, while hoping everyone else keeps doing the same thing and doesn't decide to undercut the competition. Do I take the sure thing now, or hold out for a larger payoff- and risk losing it? The Pirate Lords, of course, are more than happy to lure the EIC into trap after trap with false leads.
>>36072523You know, it would probably never happen, but a meeting between Rourke and Ursula sounds pretty hilarious.
>>36072569>Cookie, gimme all the kebab skewers you've got. This'll take a week to grill.
>>36072160>All. You wanted. To do. Was buy. Some Milk.
>>36072523A note, on the EIC and Atlantis. The fact that all Atlantis-EIC cargo must be transshipped through Virginia first has made Virginia fairly wealthy, above and beyond what they get from immediate proximity to a major Atlantean holding. It's also made the New York area the second most powerful region in the Republic, after Atlantis itself, thanks to its easy access to foreign raw materials- from Virginia itself, and from the transshipment trade. The EIC, on its part, looks enviously at the Panama Canal, which they are forbidden to use; instead, they must trek all the way around South Africa. They are currently in talks with Tzekel-Kan to build a second canal through their territory.
>>36072523Davy Jones is still in the EIC's pocket. Hades might be a little miffed at that.>Now, I'm a sucker for the romantic. LOVE a tragic story, but ya see...here's the thing. Squid-face is part of MY staff now. Now we've got all those souls floating around cluttering up the Locker. > Honestly? Never should have bought that place at all, but you know timeshare salesmen. Now there's some REAL evil. Anyway, I gotta fill it, sushi-beard ain't. So I'm paying OUT MY ASS for a giant empty beach of endless torment WITH NO ONE ON IT!> So, here's the deal, you go and tell the schoolgirl nightmare to get off his barnacled butt, and BACK TO WORK...and I might be persuaded to help you out. Capiche?
>>36072724I could almost see the fire shoot out of his head that time.
>>36072569Maybe not a direct meeting, but sonobuoys with recordings of Rourke taunting Ursula are totally doable.>I must say, that was a real impressive squid you had there. My science boys tell me that the sheer impossibility of anything alive being that large would have sent them into gibbering fits if they weren't already living on a floating island powered by 8000-year-old crystal magic. Anyway, I hope you weren't too fond of it, because it was delicious. Well, a bit on the greasy side, actually, but there's no better sauce than victory. Victory, and getting to rub it in the other guy's face.
>>36072774>but there's no better sauce than victoryMysides.exe
>>36072774"You got your Rourke in my Cave Johnson!""You got your Cave Johnson in my Rourke!"
>>36072833And together, they produce the finest ham and cheese known to man.
>>36072724ironically that bit about being a sucker for romance, I bet that's true, heck of the Olympians, Persephone is probably one of the few who's not trapped with Zeus and most of the other main 12(and she's really conflicted about it, cause on the one hand he's trapped most of her other family members, and on the other he's been nothing but nice, and he's actually kind of handsome if you look past the blue skin and the fire for hair thing...), along with some of the other more Cthonic in nature gods such as Eris(partially so we can stick in the Sinbad animated movie in somewhere) and Circe(cause who doesn't like pig based transmogrification)>>36072774glorious
Are you guys wanting for writefags? I'm tossing around a bit of a flavor piece involving a delegation from Atlantis proposing trade agreements with Queen Elsa, but I'm not sure where to go with it.
>>36072882We could always use more. Have you looked into what Elsa's like in this setting though? She's not exactly in the... ah... best mental state.
>>36072882I'm guessing it'd be like Cold War (haha) diplomacy. Half an offer, half a threat, because Rourke's not really the bargaining type.
>>36072828>>36072833>>36072857>Now, Ursula, I've got a conundrum here I was hoping you could help with. I was looking into reconfiguring the shields to be shaped like a giant, upraised middle finger, but it turns out that's impossible, for reasons relating to emitter geometry and surface area/volume ratio. Similarly, I was looking into making the next generation of combat patrol minisubs also shaped like an outstretched middle finger, but it's not a very hydrodynamic shape so that's impossible too. So, my problem is, I have no real way to flip you the bird properly. Thoughts?
>>36072882Elsa's...not exactly sane in this. Or seeing visitors.
>>36072912>Half a dozen sharks suddenly get thrown into the forcefield>"I get that you're trying to help mould it into shape, hun, but that's really not going to work."
>>36072947>>36072912>Ursula transforms into her gigantic form>"Gentlemen, take a good long look. At least thirty seconds. Burn that image deep into your mind. This is why you joined the navy, to avoid getting married. You can bet your last dollar that 20 years of marital bliss will look exactly the same. I thank God Almighty each day for the foresight I had walking out at the altar that day."
>>36072900>>36072914From what I've understood gleaning the threads, she's terrifically isolationist and is just as bound to turn you into another piece of ice statuary as she is to send Marshmallow after you to tear you a new asshole. Her sanity may or may not be degrading, or she might just be more like the The Snow Queen from the eponymous Russian fairy tale--not aggressive, but just wishing to be left alone.Of course, Arrendelle and its surrounding land is rich in, if this world is just like ours, timber and oil. To an enterprising businessman, it would be a massive boon to tap into either/or, better if you could tap into both.Now who's to say President Rourke isn't a pragmatist, and looks at the effort as also being a humanitarian mission to whoever has the balls to survive in the frozen wastes?And on Atlantis--to what extent has Rourke integrated Atlantean technomagic into WWI/WWII innovations? Are we looking at flying carriers and lightning-spewing tanks and rifles? Battle-priests that make every piece of tech work around them that much better while acting as offensive powerhouses?
>>36072989Oh, Rourke, you glorious bastard.
>>36073002The way I've been thinking of it, there are basically three tiers to atlantean tech. The first tier is the 8000-year-old stuff. It's the best stuff, the most advanced. Then there's the later crystal-tech. This isn't that much far off from the original in power output, but it's bulkier and somewhat breakdown-prone. These actually need maintenance, unlike the original tech. Then there's conventional tech, which is WWI/WWII. The benefit to this is that it doesn't need crystals, which can only be grown slowly, and can legally be traded with other nations, which are largely around the Medieval period.
>>36073002The general story we've been following is that Elsa was driven mad by grief and guilt after Anna died. There's been talk of her using her snow-life powers to try and bring the frozen citizens back but it hasn't really worked as Elsa wasn't exactly a people expert and the snow-people she made are grim/sad mockeries of real people.There are people living in Arendelle, but they're on the edges of the place, where the freezing isn't as bad. If you were to send a trade mission it would be to them, not to the queen herself. Not unless some heroes managed to calm her first, anyhow.
>>36073098Of course, you know that they're working on hybridizing the conventional with the 8000 and the Crystal.There's a hook.Atlantis have developed a new hybrid prototype weapon. It's a game changer. You've got to get it. Whether this is for another villain, or the Forces of Good, is up in the air. Also, the PCs have to make the call: Keep it, or destroy it?
>>36073098Also, keep in mind that for Atlantis, 'WWI' means 'that crazy-ass huge submarine, giant drill, etc. etc. etc.'
>>36073125>There are people living in Arendelle, but they're on the edges of the place, where the freezing isn't as bad.I thought Arendelle was completely frozen, and Weselton and the Souther Isles were just partially frozen.
>>36073152I was thinking of the new crystal-tech as effectively being a hybrid. Steel instead of stone, sparking geode-reactors instead of those crystal necklaces. But yeah, new Atlantean tech of any sort is a definite plot hook. In fact, getting any tech out of Atlantean hands would be a plot hook in an evil campaign; they keep the secrets of industrialization and mass-manufacturing close.
>>36073152Well the Crystal is already hybridized tech. That's the tier where things like a standard looking rifle that shoots lighting would be, or a factory that runs off of a gigantic crystal generator room instead of a power plant.That said the hook can still be used with very little changes. If that Atlanteans figured out how to replicate the effect of the Leviathan's beam, for example that would be a game changer. It was shown to cut through ships of pretty much any era and in the cut viking opening to the movie also had a "fuckoff huge explosion" mode. Trying to make off with either the prototype or the plans for an Atlantean turbo-beam would make a good adventure.
>>36073216>Atlanteans figure out how to replicate Leviatahn's beam on a massive scale>Makes gigantic superweapon based on beam technology>Atlantis is now BelkaNOW ATLANTIS WILL HAVE ALL THE CLAY!
It occurs to me that we've hardly discussed Africa and India at all.
>>36073522Bunch of animals fighting each other for animal dominance. Probably interesting for a beast campaign, but a human party would find them rather... lacking, unless they're big game hunters.
>>36073522the powers that be over in those lands are more regional than a lot of the other powers, and are harder to think stuff for than with the Americas, similar problem with the rest of Asia and Australia as well(although Queen La's domain, and Maldonia are probably allies of Atlantis, especially since La is of Atlantean descent)
Random thought>Kaa and Winnie the Pooh sound exactly the same>Kaa lured Christopher Robin into his magical realm and hypnotized him into believing he's Pooh>Christopher Robin keeps imagining creatures which Kaa eagerly devours, an endless source of food
>>36073538Simple plot hook:The PCs get turned into animals. This can be unwillingly, and then the plot is to find a way to turn back. Or they were willingly turned into animals because there's something deep in Beastland territory that they need to get, and it's not accessible to humans.Also, there should be a 'Talk to Animals' skill in the crunch. You get a bonus to it if you've been polymorphed in the past.
>>36073572It works.Possibly magical-realmy, though.Seems particularly likely in the Sunless empire.
I just want Maleficent as my waifu.
>>36073667What are Maleficent and the European queens doing? Just posturing and army-building, or is there some bigger goal for any of them?
>>36073667holy shit this picture just catapulted Maleficent up my waifu chart
>>36073759Maleficent likely cares little for this world in and of itself. She probably wants to ultimately subsume it into the Fae realm.
>>36070310So on the subject of Virginia: wouldn't the nature of this universe (in which each villain got their "win" condition) imply that Governor Ratcliffe found a shit-ton of gold and is now incredibly wealthy? Wealthy enough to hire all sorts of elite mercenaries and such?
>>36070463>personally I don't like the Doomroads idea, and think Doomtown is more interestingBut ROADS! was Judge Doom's win condition. He fucking hated Toontown and wanted to destroy it and put in a freeway.IMO, Doomtown should exist, but it would be inseparable from the freeway: there are two levels to the world. Up on top it's a monument to consumerism and capitalist greed: outsized super stores, fast food, billboards on top of billboards, etc. Down below the endless maze of bridges and overpasses is the undercity, where the displaced toons and other vagabods have set up a shanty town, scratching out a living from the scraps of the world above.Doomtown's main hub would be in San Francisco, but would run all along the West Coast, from Los Angeles to Seattle, and it's always expanding, like a living organism.
I love this concept. I was in a freeform RP like this once but I left when it became pretty much 24/7 sheer khan and scar fucking.
>>36073125I imagine Sven could survive the endless winter if anyone can. The have maybe kept an area relatively safe and warm.
>>36074121The Doomroad expands East as far as Vegas, where the flashy consumerism melds with the Wild West to create... well, Vegas. Vegas has become neutral ground for all the various factions, each of them claiming one of the massive Casinos as their own headquarters in Sin City, each thematically appropriate to their own tastes.We may not want to use real-world Casinos for this, but Hades would likely feel at home in a "Caesar's Palace" analog, Jaffar in something akin to "The Luxor" etc.Vegas is, to villains, the closest thing to "holy ground" they seem to honor. Grudges wait at home, and what happen in Vegas... well, you know.
Reposting a writefag's work:The Vatican is undergoing a paranoid change. The aged Pope stalks the halls, peering into shadows, fearful of every crack and crevice. He has ordered the windows of the Basilica boarded up. Demanded the crude, stone statues be pulled from their high vantage points. He jumps awake in a cold sweat at the first sound of bells tolling the morning hour. The Pope is fearful.His priests are sent forth on missions of conversion. The Holy Empire's borders are massed with heathen hordes. To the North, the pagans worship nature and spirits. To the East, young fools flock to worship the Hellenic Gods, supposedly walking the land once again. To the South and West, the vast hordes of Allah mass as always, their eyes set firmly on Iberia. The Pope is fearful.It used to be that the Pope could find peace in the depths of the fire but no longer. Something looks back at him. Something terrifying, vast and destructive. It used to be that he could find pleasure in the embrace of his gypsy paramour but no longer. She has become deadened as though some impossible demon has extended its reach upon her and destroyed her very soul. It used to be that he could find solace in prayer to his Lord God but no longer. In the face of such profound divinity, how can the Lord's silent hand ever compare? The Pope is fearful.
>>36074283Rising from the bed in impotent fury, the Pope strikes the Gypsy across the face. He blames her for his flaccidity. He blames her for his fears. She should warm his heart but she lies, cold to the touch. She is dead to him. He strikes her again. And again.Before too long, there is blood and the Pope is sobbing. He is fearful. Where is his divine guidance? His promised salvation? He is an old man surrounded by enemies and stalked by the shadow of a long-dead foe. He sheds his blood-stained robes and bares himself naked before his Lord. He begs for something. For anything.The Gypsy stirs. She smiles and rises from the floor, her limbs hung limply, blood pooling around her feet. She grins wider still, her eyes dead white. The Pope stares. He is fearful.She approaches and the Pope stays frozen, prostrated on the floor. She leans to him and inquires, just once, if he wants the fear to go away. The Pope nods but once. And they kiss.He tastes her blood but it is cold. It tastes not of copper but of stone and grit and ash. She pulls away and the Pope stares at her, wide-eyed. His heart slows. And stops. The Gypsy laughs cruelly as the Pope clutches at her frayed dress. He desperately pulls himself upright but to no avail. He falls limp and dead to the floor.And then the Pope awakens anew. He feels the fear drain from his body. Feels the blood solidify as the skin starts to flake away from his face. Feels his eyes liquefy and slide forwards. He rots. But he is not fearful.He rises from the floor and dons his robes. His skin sloughs off him as he walks towards the bed. The Gypsy follows him and, as he watched, she lays down before him. The Pope lowers his head and bites into her dead flesh. He consumes her body and her blood. He desecrates her. And then he rises and leaves her. The Pope hungers.
>>36070313> Sorry hadn't posted, just got back from schoolTraits for Inquisition Combat Monsters:> Religious Studies: The literary studies that are authorized by Pontifex Frollo have made easy to remember as the back of your hand to identify creatures. Add +3 in a Roll that uses Intelligence.Suppressed Demons: Hate breeds in your heart, stoked by the demons of your mind. This allows you to directly inflict a first strike on your enemy, but also afflicts you first strike.>Ideals:Christian Teachings: If you will spread a toned-down and positve version of Frollo's teachings, add +3 in Charm.> Sorry, if I'm late. If this is outdated, please inform me.
>>36070014I know it's not Disney, but what about The Nightmare before Christmas?
>>36074296Traits for Alameda's West:> Ferrous Ferocity: The land has taught you to kindle your fury, turning it into an asset in a few seconds. When you get your first strike, choose an enemy. He gets a strike.>Wild Child: Every time you dodge an attack, your thoughts get a little quicker, your legs a little quicker, your mind a little......wilder. When you dodge an attack, add +2 to your Agility.>Eagle-eyed Shot: Practice on unsuspecting bandits has turned you into a proficient gunslinger. When attacking an enemy with a ranged weapon, you can ignore his armor/Gain +2 in an attack roll with a ranged weapon.
>>36074330That is Disney, or at least it's a Disney owned property, which seems to be enough (or more than enough, in some cases). The problem is, the Holiday Worlds are effectively other planes, and as such don't really interact much with the mortal world. If anything, perhaps we assume that Jack succeeded in taking over Christmas, and now Christmas is a fucked up parody of itself, where children get severed heads left for them by a cackling skeleton who is under the impression that he is bringing great joy. Santa Claus is dead, killed by the Boogie Man.
>>36073589Hey guys, just got back from school. Anyway I've posted some traits. Feel happy to use them or something.
>>36072523This would be quite hard to pull off. I mean, how would the players travel safely, or if not, at least reliably.
>>36074396But Jack wasn't the villain there: it was Oogie Boogie. I must admit that your idea is much more interesting, though.
>>36071990This would actually be pretty nice. Anyway I have to ask, is Atlantean weaponry going to be sold freely in the game? Or would it be prohibited, as such?
>>36070753Why bother? Simply cause this game has to accommodate Disney themes. I mean, in this game, it would be rare to die yes? So we have to work around that and such. I would love to explain more, but I have to admit, I can't identify all. Although you do have a fair point.
I was reading the LKR pastebin and came across something interesting:> Guarded by the Royal Huntsmen, the Mirrorguard and the Coronan Horse, the Kingdom's soldiers are ruthless, disciplined and well-organised - some of them are even alchemically enhanced.What's the Coronan Horse? Is it from some unknown Disney film?
>>36070753First, because it's not a bother: I'm having fun making this system.Second, because a game based around a dark Disney world needs a system that can, at the same time, offer interesting combat mechanics and simple narrativist rules.There are a lot of assumptions here that other games don't share, so it's easier to just build a new system.
>>36074482Might be a nice but of fluff, at least.
>>36074389>Combat Character: Alameda's West (Pre-made Character)Robustness: 8Agility:10Intelligence:7Sensibility:8Charm:11>Traits/Skills?1. Ferrous Ferocity- The land has taught you to channel and kindle your fury, turning it into an asset in a few seconds. For every strike you take, choose an enemy, he/she takes a strike.2. Eagle - Eyed Shot - Practice on bovines and bandits has molded you into a proficient gunslinger. Add +2 to your attack roll, if you use a ranged weapon.3. Wild Child - Every time you dodge, your legs get a little faster, you mind a little sharper, your thoughts a little.....wilder. Add +2 to Agility after you successfully dodge an attack.>Notes: What stats would you give to weapons?
>>36074648I'll ask some things: Is Nobody Important still here? He seems like a good anon.Also, has anyone assigned any stat to weapons? Or have agreed on a combat system?(turn-based, simultaneous, etc.)I've made some characters with made-up traits, please feel free to use them, cite them
>>36074768Here's something you ought to know: this board gets a little slow sometimes. It's normal, there's no need to worry, your senpai will be back shortly.
>>36074768A tripfag is not an anon.And no, the combat system is not done yet. Nob and the other guy were talking about weapons right before last thread ended, but they have not started again in this one.
>>36074842Cool. The Traits, have they been established?You could use the ones I've created.
>>36074887No, your traits are shit.
>>36074887I've mostly done the traits to fit in the universe the PC's would live in.
>>36074895Eh.. Fuck it.
>>36072434>>36072482You know James Woods liked the role of Hades so much, he does the voice of him in EVERY. SINGLE. ADAPATION.We could probably explain this idea to him, and he would read that script for free.
>>36074895Have I fucked up badly? If so, tell me.
>>36074980You're just bad at this. You should stop wasting our time and go away.
Working on a bit of a cleanup of the premade example characters from the last thread:>Warren York: Hunter>"I had always been taught that hunting was the Sport of Kings, and while this is something I still believe, many hunters have forgotten that a King is meant to be righteous and just."For a long time, Warren York was a member of the Elite Global Huntsman Club where he honed his wilderness survival skills and hobnobbed with the likes of Gaston and McLeah. However, it was discovered that he would regularly let rare and endangered creatures he had been tracking escape kill or capture, and his membership in the Club was revoked forever. Today, Warren is still a consummate outdoorsman and a skilled hunter, taking down violent and dangerous animals and sometimes people around the world wearing a three-day stubble and a much-abused bush hat.>Human Strongman- Robustness: 10- Agility: 7- Intelligence: 6- Sensibility: 9- Charisma: 811.Skills:- Ranged 3- Travel 2- Stealth 1- Brawl 1- Dodge 2- Insight 1>Traits:- Big Game Hunter: +3 to Ranged rolls against prey you have been stalking for at least an hour.-No Escape: Roll twice on Travel rolls to track animal prey and take the better result.- Not on my watch!: +2 to Ranged rolls attacking those who would harm the innocent.>Ideals:- Be a good hunter- Protect the weak- Track dangerous animals
>>36075000Sure. I get it
>>36075033Very good! Go check out the classes from last thread now: they give some extra stuff.
>>36075033>Mahrikatohka "Mary" Smith>"Don't get me wrong! I love my Pops. I Love my Mat-tim. I love Atlantis! But there're places to go! People to meet! Things to see! And I'm planning on going and meeting and seeing all of them!"Mahrikatohka Smith, usually just called "Mary," is the daughter of an Atlantean woman and a member of the original Atlantis Expedition's motorpool, a brilliant mechanic and something of a wild-child. Coming into her majority at the age of eighteen, passing all her Military Service Exams and filled to the brim with wanderlust, she joined the first A-Team she could find, determined to go out and experience the world.>Human Sage- Robustness: 8- Agility: 7- Intelligence: 11- Sensibility: 8- Charisma: 6->Skills: - Mechanics 4- Travel 1- Drive 2- Ranged 1- Academics 1- Science 1>Traits:- Atlantean Mechanic: Can repair and use even high-tech and rare technology with few issues.- Don't panic!: +2 on rolls to avoid fear when near allies. - Does it have a steering wheel?: Ignores the usual wait time to learn how to drive a new vehicle properly.>Ideals: - See interesting places - Fix things- Get into trouble
>>36075229What "Mary" looks like in my head.If I had any photoshop skills I would have blued her eyes and tanned her skintone a bit.
>>36075652And a crystal pendant.
>>36075229Bullet Salvo: add 1 to RangedScallywag Swagger: add 1 to PersuasionFerrous Ferocity: when you take a strike, ignore it instead.
>>36075791Generic Traits:>Ravenous Retaliation: if you manage to kill an enemy, regain a strike.>Lawful Negotiations: add 1 modifier to you roll if you try to use Persuasion.>Fearless Feint: If you use Deceive in a roll, and you succeed, the Enemy loses a strike.Sudden Silence: If you fail your Stealth Roll, re-roll it instead.Well-read: add +1 in a roll if you use AcademicsOccult Familiarity: add +1 in a roll if you use Occult.Rock-hard chest: add +1 to Robustness> That is all. Please correct me if I have mistakes
>>36075925Oh, and a character I guess:Strongman (Atlanntean)Robustness:10Agility:7Intelligence:6Sensibility:9Charisma:8Skills:Athletics:3Driving:1Dodge:2Melee:2Persuasion:1Traits:Ravenous Retaliation: if you defeat an enemy, and have lost a strike, regain one.Lawful Negotiations: add 1 to a roll with Persuasion.Practiced Bash: on first attack, add +2 to roll if using Melee skill.
What's a fair amount of skill bonus for a trait to give by default? How much is a fair amount if the trait ultimately inconveniences you in some way? Trying to figure out a trait I think we should call "Fourth Stooge": You get a significant bonus to Endurance, BUT you are frequently beset by unfortunate events. Because of your great Endurance, none of these events are capable of actually damaging you and amount to little more than slapstick comedy, even if they ultimately inconvenience you in other ways.
>>36075000>>36075000Ouch. Harsh.>>36074887Anyway, traits should usually follow the following guidelines:They should provide a bonus between +2 and +4 for a certain subset of rolls. The narrower the criteria, the bigger the bonus. Traits could also provide minor bonuses which contradict established rules. I.e, Does It Have A Steering Wheel? Ignore the usual penalty of a day before learning to pilot a new machine properly.Traits should also not affect stats directly, but instead skills. Stats are harder to increase than skills are.
>>36076072>They should provide a bonus between +2 and +4 for a certain subset of rolls.Can that number go higher if accompanied by some sort of drawback ala>>36076039
>>36076092Yes, but I would be very, very hesitant to have that bonus go above 5. Generally, If you wanted to upgrade a bonus from +2 to +4 by tacking on a penalty, that would work assuming the penalty ever comes up.
>>36073759Maleficent's tormenting everyone for little to no reason, leading Wild Hunts and stuff.
>>36074512The mounted guards from Tangled. Gave them a name.
>>36074483Atlantean weaponry will be available.In Atlantis.If you're a citizen of the nation.>>36074389Traits:1: Automatically dealing strikes is a bit strong. Not sure if this can be balanced.2: Change Agility to Dodge, and you're good to go.3: This trait is mechanically fine but painfully generic. Perhaps something like +2 on shots while riding/driving?
>>36075033>>36075229>Father Claude>"When I was but a young boy, just learning to read God's good words and unknowing of the true nature of the Inquisition, had a little friend, a gypsy girl named Colette. I witnessed my friend put in irons and put on a wagon bound for the tribunal in Paris, and I have no doubt that she was executed or imprisoned by the Pontifex till the end of her days. I could do nothing then to save Colette, but I swear to God in Heaven I will do all I can to save you now."Father Claude is an elderly priest and leader of the church in a small French port town in the Grand Archdiocese, a pious and stalwart man who abides no backtalk or sass. He has, in secret used his authority and intimidation to operate as a member if an "underground railroad" of sorts, smuggling "heretics" out of the country before the Inquisition catches them. However, several close calls lately have Father Claude worried a out how much longer he can continue to operate undetected. >Human Sensible- Robustness: 7- Agility: 6- Intelligence: 8- Sensibility: 11- Charisma: 8>Skills:- Occult 2- Deceive 2- Music (Gregorian Chant) 1- Persuasion 3- Dodge 1- Insight 1>Traits- I'm an old man!: +3 to Deceive when lying to police or similar authorities.- Conversion: +2 Persuasion when preaching to sentient beings of other faiths- Chainbreaker: Considered Trained at Mechanics when undoing handcuffs, manacles, etc.>Ideals:- Help the enslaved/wrongfully imprisoned- Combat the wicked forces of the Inquisition- Preach the good word to the people
>>36076108Alright, so considering a better name:>No Luck for the Tough>You are constantly the victim of slapstick comedy, but you have a +5 bonus to Endurance; this means that the slapstick comedy will never be able to actually harm you, though it will inconvenience you in other ways.
>>36074045no, he only THOUGHT there was a ton of gold, he daydreamed about it but it never really existedHe heard about columbus and got a dosh-boner
>>36076259True, but if he was victorious, then he should have been able to obtain tons of wealth by exploiting some other local resource......dare I say he takes the natives as slaves?
>>36076254M'damme >*tips Phrygian cap*
>>36076277>found a shit-ton of goldthat's the only thing I'm talking about. He's probably rolling in cash, but the source of it would have to be something else
>>36076339Well, oil isn't important yet, and wood isn't too expensive, so there's really only two big candidates: Slavery and the Fur Trade, the latter of which really rips off the natives but is more sustainable.
>>36076358you forgot about coal, and timber, especially tall straight trees for masts, is vitally important
>>36076204>>36075229>>36075033>Sample AdventureA warship from the Imperial Atlantean Republic has made dock at a little no-name French port town to resupply, giving Mahrikatohka Smith the opportunity to sneak away and do a little exploring. In the course of her explorations, she runs across Warren York at the local bistro just having put into port himself after hearing about some Beast maurading around the French countryside. Together, both Warren and Mary are approached by Father Claude, who tries to enlist their aid in smuggling a group of gypsies, seelie fae and other "heretics" aboard the Atlantean ship and away to safety before the Inquisition closes in on them.
>>36076373Oh, yeah, I didn't forget about timber. Up here in Canada, there are entire forests that were once said aside solely for her Majesty's Royal Navy....I just think that at Pocahontas' time, neither of those resources were worth the New World shipping fee.
>>36076414the Fae control the forests, and what they don't control is being rapidly eaten up for fires and houses, building a ship is an enormous expense and wood is hard to come by, ESPECIALLY the kind of trees you need for masts. I can see a kind of bulk discount scenario where it becomes worthwhile as long as you ship more than a dozen masts
>>36076521Ah, yes, that changes everything; if they can't get wood at home because of the Fae, the New World shipping fee becomes a bargain.
>>36075229Mary's might need a bit more pizzaz to match the other two.
So where do I find definitive chargen rules and a list of established traits? I'm itching to write up SOMETHING.
>>36076583pastebin and 1d4chan
Photoshopfriend here, I saw on the wiki page you want a map done. What specifically? The same as the one there except a little tidier or what?
>>36076592Which pastebin would that be?
>>36076622ok, the traits aren't compiled yet, but the roles/classes are here: http://pastebin.com/fj58NSYMThe rules I think are on 1d4chan, but maybe not, I haven't checked it yet this morning
>>36076619here's the latest map from suptg: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/36062468/images/1415592653452.png
>>36076661Neither 1d4chan nor the pastebin you posted told me how skills I start with other than the class skills and that nature of the 'powers'. Is it in another pastebin?
>>36076619I think the request was put up when we were going through a ton of changes and we weren't sure we could keep up
>>36076714not that I've been able to find... I spoke too soon
>>36076724Hrm. Do you at least recall what we agreed upon for determining stats?
>>36076749I do not, but I can do Ctrl+F and make a list, but not now, I have class in 20 mins and haven't eaten yet.
>>36076339Virginia is the only way that Atlantis can trade with the EITC. Radcliffe can get mad down from being the middleman.
>>36076749Stats: every charscter's stats start at 6. You have 10 point to spend increasing them. One point increases by 1, to a maximum of 12.Skills: you have 10 points to spend on skills in addition to the bonus skill(s) you get from your class. Max rank is 4.Powers: Ain't got shit yet!Traits: Make something up. We don't have generic traits, but we've got the guidelines in this thread.Ideals: stuff your character wants to do. See example characters.Goals: stuff that would change the world that your character knows they must do.
>>36076848Are those powers ever going to near the phenomenal level? I am not going to ask about cosmical, because who does that amirite
>>36076848Thanks. BRB, writing up char.
>>36076749I have no sense of priorities. None.No time to format or take out comments, but here's from threads 8&9, there might also be doubles and things missinghttp://pastebin.com/0E7wmcDC
>>36076952So do we get three traits of our own choosing plus a regional trait, or only 3 traits total?
>>36077072Three total. Regional traits aren't solidified yet, but none there are particularly out thereObviously, you need to be from the region to get the traits.
Are some villains explicitly subordinate to others? Like, for example, Radcliffe to Rourke?
Got some KLR for Arendelle right here. Feel free to alter this.>King: FrostElsa has supposedly near-infinite power over ice and snow. It's uncertain what the limits of her powers are, or if they even exist. What is known is that she has amazing powers of creation and destruction. Back when she was calmer, she was capable of constructing castles in a matter of minutes. Nowadays, though, her powers are only used for destruction. Her powers go far beyond conjuring blizzards and ice bolts, though. She has the ability to imbue sentience, or at least an imitation of sentience, to mere snowmen or ice sculptures, and supposedly has an immunity to the cold herself, and has built an army of Snow Golems, or Snowlems, to serve as her minions. As well as that, she can resurrect her victims as what the locals call frostwights - frozen corpses animated by the lingering magic in the ice and cold that killed them. If she can be calmed down, and her grief can be dealt with, she could be a powerful ally to the players. Otherwise, the Ice Queen of Arendelle will show them no mercy.>LandPerhaps the land of Arendelle itself is the most actively dangerous thing any hero must face if they seek the Ice Queen. The land is perpetually covered in several feet of snow. Water can only be found by melting the ice, and in some areas of magical cold, creating a fire or a source of heat is impossible. There's also the terrible ice fog, air so cold it freezes inside your lungs. To breath in this terrible white mist is to die a horrible death, choking on frost. That's not even starting on the wildlife. Only the most ferocious and vicious of predators can survive in the Ice Wastes, and they're hungry for flesh.
>>36077134>RuleElsa doesn't exactly rule her people as much as she tolerates their presence. Her Snowlems are direct extensions of her own will, and her grief causes them to do nothing but destroy, to vent her frustration and grief. The person really in charge of the land is Prince Hans of the Southern Isles. At the time of Elsa's descent into madness, the Prince was in Arendelle to celebrate her coronation. Him and his retinue of guards from the Southern Isles have built up a fortress around the ruins of Old Arendelle, and allow people to come to him for protection in exchange for swearing their fealty. He believes that Elsa cannot be redeemed, and has to be killed. Or at least, that's what he says. In actuality, Hans just wants power. He intends to kill Elsa and become the new King of Arendelle. Originally, he had intended to marry Elsa's sister Anna, but she sacrificed herself to save the Queen from him once his plans went wrong. Hans' betrayal is the reason Elsa is the way she is. If she was to find out that he had been killed, it might help her to calm her down, to know justice had been served.
>>36077134Reckon she's freezing over the Baltic, effectively blocking Ursula from there
>>36077177Possibly. Should we add that to the map?
>>36077185Sure, but the map's utterly horrid though
What exactly do 'prevent harm' and 'endure' do?
I think Hans is one of Grimhilde's thralls.
>>36077249I don't know, I do like the idea of him still being in Arendelle. I mean, how would he have gotten out? If he just wasn't ever there, then why didn't Anna go to, I don't know, Kristoff?
>>36077249>>36077285Holy Roman Empire used to contain Nordic inherited lands. Could effectively be both
>>36076848>>36076558>>36075229>Mahrikatohka "Mary" Smith>"Don't get me wrong! I love my Pops. I Love my Mat-tim. I love Atlantis! But there're places to go! People to meet! Things to see! And I'm planning on going and meeting and seeing all of them!"Mahrikatohka Smith, usually just called "Mary," is the eighteen year old daughter of an Atlantean woman and a member of the original Atlantis Expedition's motorpool. Though a brilliant mechanic and a skilled pilot and driver, she is something of a wild-child possession a rebellious streak and an exploratory bent that have gotten her into trouble in the past. Coming into her majority, Mary took and passed all her Military Service Exams, allowing her to join the first Atlantean Away Team she could find, determined to go out and experience the world.>Human Sage- Robustness: 8- Agility: 7- Intelligence: 11- Sensibility: 8- Charisma: 6->Skills: - Mechanics 4- Travel 1- Drive 2- Ranged 1- Academics 1- Science 1>Powers:-Speaking the Mother Tongue: Fluency in the ancient Atlantean language aids in the deciphering of other foreign, eldritch and encoded languages. - Percussive Maintenance: If a mechanics check is failed, the mechanic may once per day use Percussive Maintenance, striking the device hard with a wrench, fixing, disarming or manipulating it as needed.>Healing Crystals: The power of Kidagakash, the Heart of Atlantis resides within the character and within the crystal hanging around her neck. This power may be used several times to heal minor wounds or once to heal a grievous wound.
>>36077285It was stated in earlier threads that he has taken over the Tangled kingdom and rules it as a servant of Grimhilda
>>36077309Then does Elsa not have a kingdom?
>>36077313the healing power, once per day or once ever?
>>36077313 >Traits:- Atlantean Mechanic: Can repair and use even high-tech and rare technology with few issues.- Don't panic!: +2 on rolls to avoid fear when near allies. - Does it have a steering wheel?: Ignores the usual wait time to learn how to drive a new vehicle properly.>Ideals: - See interesting places - Fix things- Get into trouble>Goals:- Learn responsibility and duty- Return to Atlantis to try to convince Rourke's government to fight the good fight- Make the world safe for wanderers dreamers and rebels
>>36077322She does, just nobody goes there cause it's fucking cold
>>36077319Yes, but was it ever explained how he got from Arendelle to Corona or whatever it's called? We need to be consistent here.
>>36070046Seeing as you're making a pastebin of the KLRs, i'll edit mine to list pre-existing/key characters and their histories. http://pastebin.com/8vvecwkmAlso, if you could seek out/our devs could write down the KLRs for Facilier, Scar, Queen of Hearts, Yzma and Pinocchio, so we could get that out of the way. Would be Nice.
>>36077322Some Nordic inherited lands were, depending on which conquests/families you're talking about.Oldenburg and Swedish Pomerania were both at one point both HRE and Nordic, especially during the Kalmar era
>>36077239Seriously, is prevent harm basically block/dodge while endurance is 'my defense is being tough'?
>>36077338After Elsa went full on crazy ice storm he fucked off and went to take on plan 2: endear himself as an adviser to the King and Queen of the Tangled kingdom and get made their heir when they still can't find their daughter and they don't make anymore kids. When Grimhilda comes a knocking he kisses ass like he has never done before.
>>36077378How'd he get out? The sea's frozen.>>36077372I think endurance is survival.
>>36077324I was thinking that it could be used once per day for small wounds, and maybe once per campaign to prevent the death of a player character.
>>36077391>The sea's frozenSo walk
>>36077391Travel covers survival, and>>36076235seems to imply it protects you from physical harm.In any event, it's....ugh....'optimal' to only invest in one, right?
>>36077402It's not frozen all the way. Just far enough out that all the boats in the port got destroyed. And he can't contact anyone to pick him up, there's no method of communication.
>>36077391There was a horse, wasn't there?
>>36077459>Atlantis>Wanting to help the other kingdomsLast time I checked, they were isolationists.
>>36077464>People are making characters already>It's workingD-did we get shit done, /tg/?Not all of it, but does that mean that shit got done?
>>36077499Fuuuck, didn't mean to quote
>>36077499But work is not done yet, Anon. There is plenty of crunch to do, much fluff to write. And let's not forget SONGS!
What happens if you drop a D&D Paladin in there and they try to cast Detect Evil?
>>36077520They would sense evil from the evil beings, why wouldn't they? Besides, this isn't DnD.
>>36077520Who cares. This isn't D&D. D&D is entirely irrelevant to this.
>>36077520BLINDED BY THE LIGHTREVVED UP LIKE A DEUCEANOTHER RUNNER IN THE NIGHT
>>36077517>And let's not forget SONGS!I think every player should always prepare beforehand one or two musical numbers to use during dire moments in the gameSearch youtube for a good melody, write the lyrics, and hold on to that until you have the perfect chance
It's so hard to try and join this project because there's no way of catching up.>>36077200I offered to do something with it and no one cared....
>>36077564Make that an optional rule, because as a GM, I refuse on principle to force my players to make up song lyrics.
>>36077499A fair amount of shit has gotten done, but there is still a lot of shit yet to do. Mahrikatohka "Mary" Smith and the other two example characters are just for use in crunch testing, fluff writing and fun yet.
>>36077185I actually have already added in a border of ice around Norway and in the Baltic.
>>36077601I can sympathize. Once people and ideas get rolling on a big /tg/ project it can be easy to get lost in the barrage of posts.
>>36077200Hey, that's not very nice.
>>36077601The best that one can do is read up in the archive.http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=Disney+Villains+Victorious
>>36077625Good thinking, Dread.
>>36077564>>36077609I'd recommend this as a good emergency villain songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxJrjV4PNXA
>>36077200Your face is horrid>>36077637He's a faggot, your map is one of the backbones here
>>36077656Based Voltaire has the best songs.I think "Land of the Dead" would be perfect for a possibly comedic adventure on the Horned King's domain
>>36077686Does anyone mind explaining why there are any human kings left? I mean, there are ludicrously powerful magic wielders everywhere and yet there are also non magical kingdoms that haven't been conquered yet.
>>36077751either powerful/loyal followers (Fallacier/Frollo) or people can't be bothered to topple them because of no resources they want (Slim)/not enough of a bother/powerful allies (Radcliffe)
>>36077686I think a nice nod to the general non-songness of TBC would be the Horned King being completely unaffected by songs. No buff, no strikes, he just gets really confused and indignant. >And now, worthless wretches, you shall beco->Party breaks into song>What on earth are you doing? Stop that! This is ridiculous!>Have you quite fini-, no that was just an instrumental break, apparently>That doesn't rhyme. You are the worst minstrels I've ever seen, worse than that one who tried to kill me ages ago. >Finished? There's not going to be a reprise, is there?
>>36077807You've obliterated my sides, good sir.
>>36077807Yep, Horn King confirmed for Tin Ear.
>>36077807>The Sensible and Charimsatic dudes are just smiling>"You have already been defeated by our song, mister.">"You are fools, and insanity has already taken a hold on your minds. You can sing as you drown in the Cauldron.">"No, you see. You were so busy being mad at us for the song taht you didn't even notice our Sage going up to the second floor.">"Yup. It should be crashing down in three, two, one....">They start singing a song about demolition as the ceiling comes down
>>36077807I love just how tongue-in-cheek you've made his commentary.
Is there still room or want for another South American villain? Charles Muntz from Up could be a fun contender. He is like a mix between Rourke and the other evil big-game hunters.
Seeing as how we have ten threads now, and all this might be confusing for old and new posters alike, maybe we should spend a little thought on how we might be able to format everything so as to be more accessible in the next thread and on the the 1d4chan page. I am at work right now, but could attempt to compile things together for the wiki after 5:00pm EST today when I get home.
>>36077751It depends from kingdom to kingdom, but from what I understand the reasons are as follows:Atlantis: A small nation with a very good military. Uses blue crystal lasers and the Shield the city has to keep out any sorcerorsVirginia: Provides material to Atlantean industry and gets protection. The Shadowlands are the only one threatening them and that is mostly indebted raiders trying to secure payment for the Friends they owe.The Old West: Decent technology, relatively small scale neighbors (The aztec styled fellows to the south are interested in sacrifices, not conquest) and a very low population density.The Pontificate and other Human territories in Europe: The Fairy queens of Europe are too busy fighting each other over every perceived slight to bother with them, Hades' only goal was to conquer Olympus (He already gets the souls of the dead, so why go through all the trouble of taking them a few decades early?) and the Horned King's expansion is checked by both all the goddamn fairies on the continent and the fact that his cauldron mists have to be spread manually by moving the Cauldron into the area
>>36077985Didn't we already talk about Muntz? I personally thought he could join up with the Hunters. Maybe he leads their South American branch. Either way, I'd think he doesn't do much hunting himself any more, but he's got plenty of stories to tell and plenty of wisdom to share.
>>36077985You know, Muntz' collars would be a great way to integrate beast characters with human ones
>>36078058First time really getting into the threads so I figured he might have been talked about already. That sucks, I think he could have made a cool leader.
>>36078067The issue being whether they are found easily, readily cheap to acquire, etc. But, in the case of PCs, I am sure that a way could be found to acquire one.
>>36078029I think you're pretty much right on the money here. I also get the feeling that because most of the heavy hitters are stalemating each other in Europe, those in the Americas can generally breathe a little easier and enjoy a little elbow room, allowing for less supernaturally powerful people like Alameda Slim to take charge.
>>36077985Why not just make him part of the Hunters guild and then give the Hunters Guild Chile?
>>36078072Well, he's probably a respected figure in the Club. Perhaps not a complete leader, but when he talks, people listen.
>>36078134Lets do it. Fuck Kevin.
>>36078094Considering that if he won in the movie he would've returned to the US with Kevin, he probably would've needed a way to finance future expeditions. Considering he put out enough of those collars for a dog-army while isolated in the jungle, they're probably pretty easy to make (at least for him).
>>36078029I'd say the Cauldron-mist doesn't spread across water without the Horned King himself actually turning up to magic it across. The mist in Ireland and Northern France is thinner than that in England because it's blocked off by the Irish Sea and the Channel. It can still resurrect things and dead Cauldron-Born, but not as fast or as effectively, and the fey still dislike it. HK rarely gets his bony arse off of his throne.
>>36073572Assuming we're having PC races like Atlantea, ANimal morph, and so on...what about the 100 Acre Wood race? Do we slant them as sentient plushtoys?
>>36078239My thoughts lean away from the 100 Acre Woods race in that, I think, there were only the characters in that area and no others. Therefore, PCs should steer clear of just playing as 'Winnie the Pooh.'
>>36078239We've got Humans, Beast, Fairies, and maybe an Atlantean sub-race
>>36078271Have they been given racial bonuses/specialties/whatevers yet?
>>36078305Not yet, we've only got character creation down for humans so feel free to throw out some ideas
>>36078268But there were Heffalumps and Woozels, and the fluff i had in my mind was that they'd struck an alliance with the other Acre Wood folks aout of fear of the ever spreading briars and rampant Skullasauri.And as for the Acre Wood folks, we could have the stats determine the particular species, such as high Int makes an Owl, high sensibility makes a Rabbit and so on...
>>36078305Maybe each of the races and nationalities come with Powers that come standard or can be chosen from, like >>36077313 and >>36077334 above. Atlanteans might get or could choose from Powers like:>Speaking the Mother Tongue: Fluency in the ancient Atlantean language aids in the deciphering of other foreign, eldritch and encoded languages.And>Healing Crystals: The power of Kidagakash, the Heart of Atlantis resides within the character and within the crystal hanging around her neck. This power may be use once per day to heal minor wounds and once per campaign to heal a life threatening wound.Among others.
>>36078271To clarify, because this could get confusing for some people:By beast, we mean talking animal, not as in THE Beast. He's just a guy who got cursed.
>>36078353For animals that can be covered by the Beast race. Not all beasts are lions, tigers, and bears. There are foxes, there are rabbits, there are even some crickets....
>>36078305I think Pixies need some kind of drawback when using human sized objects, even if magic lets them carry them. I mean, if an object is bigger than you then being strong won't change the fact that it's awkward to use. Not to mention they already have flight and the ability to fit through small spaces, so they'd be a little OP otherwise.
>>36078353I forgot about the scary things in the forest. The species determination thing sounds pretty good.>>36078328For Beasts, do we think it would be a good idea to allow communication even without the Muntz Collar or would that be necessity for any Beast PC?
>>36078465I'd say we allow communication without the Muntz collar, but they get a -2 to all communication-related rolls except intimidate. (A tiger can't get a point across normally, but if it starts snarling and baring its teeht, you know what's going on.) After all, they don't sell collars in the Pridelands.
>>36078529Makes sense, now, since we have addressed that point, with the whole 'Beast' label, there are many species that lie under that category. Should we compile a list for many different animals and their possible stats or simply make a cover-all 'Beast' lay-out and allow GMs to create different stats based on different species?
>>36078588I'd say we make a series of different stats, but we don't make stats for every single animal that's possible. Lions and tigers would both just use the Big Cat stats, for example.
>>36078616Okay, I guess we can begin a bit then. For all Beasts, they will have -2 on communication based rolls, size penalties/bonuses, and finally racial bonuses as applicable.>Big Cats:Size: Medium (No idea how size can play into anything right now, but its there when we figure it out.)Natural Weapons: Slash (No idea on stats for weapons), biteRacial Traits: Pounce (Something with first attack, but I don't know how its been decided that something of that sort would work.)Camouflage- +2 or some other value on Stealth rolls in environments with tall grass or of similar color scheme to the character. Any factors that influence appearance make this bonus go away.How does this look for a basic Big Cat?
Alright, I actually went ahead and came up with a whole party of characters for a Prydain campaign where Arthur is alive and leading the rebellion (also the tradition of the Round Table began in the rebellion). Each character encountered and was defeated by Arthur, causing them to realize that his is in fact the true and immediately swear fealty to him. They need some fleshing out, but I'll do that later.>Sir James the Grim, Black Knight of the Round Table>"You….you truly are King Arthur! I thought that all the old heroes were dead and Cauldronborn, that all the new ones would share their fate, that all hope was dead…..I see know that I was wrong. HAIL, KING ARTHUR!">Human Strong Guy- Robustness: 11- Agility: 8- Intelligence: 7- Sensibility: 7- Charisma: 7>Skills:- Athletics 2- Endurance 3(8)- Melee 3- Intimidate 2- Travel 1- Prevent Harm 1>Power:- It’s Just A Flesh Wound!: Can spend a heart point to remove two strikes.>Traits- Dead Walking: You're very familiar with the undead. Fear-based strikes from undead are reduced one level.- Tin Ear: Immune to all aspects of music.- No Luck For The Tough: Is constantly besot by slapstick misfortune, but has a +5 to Endurance. Because of the increased Endurance, the slapstick cannot harm him, thought it will inconvenience him in other ways.
>>36078725Sir Harold the Cunning, Green Knight of the Round Table>"I’ve….I’ve lost! Why, you must be King Arthur to have outwitted me! HAIL, KING ARTHUR!">Human Smart Guy- Robustness: 7- Agility: 7- Intelligence: 10- Sensibility: 8- Charisma: 8>Skills:- Academics 2- Melee 2- Insight 2- Prevent Harm 1- Endure 1- Deceive 1- Persuasion 1- Travel 1>Power:- Eureka!: May spend a heart point to immediately learn an important piece of information.>Traits- I Read About It: Gains a +3 bonus to Academics rolls when dealing with Creatures or Places- My One True Weakness: Gains a +3 bonus to Insight when determining a character's "Soft Spot"- Master of Nine Men Morris: Gains +4 bonus to any strategy game, and a +2 bonus to any actual battle strategies
>>36078708I like them. They seem reasonable.
>>36078708Looks pretty good. Also, for size, how about it increases your Defense bonus, or maybe even gives you an extra strike?Nob is asleep, post slightly complex mechanics
>>36078742Sir Brandon the Brash, Blue Knight of the Round Table>"Amazing! You can actually keep pace with me! That old sage foretold that no one would ever keep up with me save for….save for…..HAIL, KING ARTHUR!">Human Nimble Guy- Robustness: 8- Agility: 12- Intelligence: 6- Sensibility: 6- Charisma: 8>Skills:- Acrobatics 1- Prevent Harm 3- Melee 3- Athletics 1- Endure 1- Travel 1- Sleight of Hand 1- Stealth 1>Power:- I Am Not Left-Handed!: He may opt to take a penalty to his melee and prevent harm for the first 3 rounds of combat. Whatever penalty he decided to take, he gains it as a bonus for the rest of the combat scene.>Traits- Nobody Could Have Survived That (Subset of Acrobatics): Bonus when jumping off of high places to your apparent death, being inside an exploding volcano lair, or other blatantly unsurvivable situations.- Superior Speed: +2 to attack and defend against anyone with an Agility lower than yours in physical combat.- Evasive: +3 to defenses against area attacks, such as raining arrows.
So what happened to Prince John and the Sheriff of Nottingham?
>>36078766Sir Paul the Shining, Red Knight of the Round Table>"King Arthur…..well, you’re almost as charming as myself. But I don’t suppose charm does any good when you’re surrounded by these blasted Cauldronborn…perhaps you are right. We do need to unite our arms. HAIL, KING ARTHUR!">Human Charismatic Guy- Robustness: 8- Agility: 6- Intelligence: 8- Sensibility: 8- Charisma: 10>Skills:- Persuasion 1- Deceive 1- Intimidate 1- Endurance 1- Melee 1- Prevent Harm 1- Travel 1- Insight 1- Music 3>Power:- Lend me Your Ears: May treat armies as ‘the party’ for the purpose of music and speeches if he spends a heart point.>Traits- Etiquette: Gains a +3 to social situations among the nobility.- Refined: +3 to Academics related to art and culture. - But It Is Not This Day!: Can make speeches to render the party immune to fear.>umsqui handsomestWhat an appropriate captcha.
>>36078775Cauldron-born, or eaten by Mor'dun. Take your pic.
>>36078775Either dead, exiled to Naboomba or trying to get Scar to help him take back England.
>>36078786Sir Charles the Wise, White Knight of the Round Table>"King Arthur….I have been awaiting you for a long time. Too long….but it is good that you are here now. HAIL, KING ARTHUR!">Human Sensible Guy- Robustness: 7- Agility: 7- Intelligence: 8- Sensibility: 10- Charisma: 8>Skills:- Insight 2- Endurance 2- Melee 2- Prevent harm 2- Academics 1- Persuasion 1- Travel 1>Power:- What Does Your Heart Tell You?: Can spend a heart point to remove strikes from illusions, persuasion and deceit on others.>Traits- Dowser: Bonus to surviving in desert and other potable-water-scarce environments. - Water Cooler Conversations: Bonus to all information-gathering in populated areas.- Know Your Enemy: once per day, he can roll to get some random piece of useful information about an enemy or objective. A weakness or a motivation, perhaps.Well? Thoughts?
>>36078793>>36078796I haven't seen Black Cauldron at all. Does their villain use minions?Prince John seems to cowardly to put up a fight, and the Sherrif is a natural toady.
>>36078742>>36078766>>36078786>>36078798These guys are awesome. Still, since Arthur's either dead or sleeping under a big-ass mountain, what are they doing?
>>36078798>>36078786>>36078766>>36078742>>36078725You're awesome, and this is awesome.You are a gentleman, a scholar, and a knight.
>>36078814Horned King has the Cauldron-Born, strong, tireless undead warriors that can't be killed without a special sword or explosives - and even those might not be permanent solutions. Anything that dies on the Isles becomes one.>>36078815Arthur being dead, under the mountain or active depends on DM fiat. Presumably, the same applies to the knights. If they're dead, they're probably Cauldron-Born'd
>>36078798Not bad. Not bad at all.
>>36078815Whether Arthur is under the mountain or leading a rebellion is one of the details we agreed to let the GM decide for themselves.
>>36078836Works for me.
>>36078760 Nob is asleep, post wizards
>>36078750>>36078760Thanks. I guess I will go through and do some common ones. On the wiki, where could some of this new shit be added?>Bear:Size: LargeNatural Weapons: Slash, BiteRacial Traits:Bear Hug- +2 on Sensibility based rolls with a friendly character.Hibernation- Can sleep for a to-be-determined period of time to remove a strikeThick-Hide- +2 on defensive rolls. Replaces Hibernation
>>36078854Naw man, that would just have him wake up screaming again
>>36078888>Bare Necessities: Being omnivorous and self-reliant, all survival checks are halved for you.Come on, man, why did I have to come up with that?
>>36079051>Bare necessities>Not Bear NecessitiesYou had one job
I'll stat pixies.>PixieSize: Tiny (About the size as tall as the distance from the heel of your palm to the tip of your middle finger, varying depending on hand size and pixie height, and with human proportionsRacial Traits:Tiny - Can fit through small spaces (GM's discretion), +10 to Avoid Harm when using dexterity, only 2 strikesFlight: Can flyPixie Dust: No strength modifiers from size, but still suffers normal penalties for objects of a different size categoryThis stuff still needs to be worked on, as we don't know yet the penalties for size difference.
The tenth thread is now archived. Just thought I'd do it before it slipped my mind. Please vote it up if you'd like to.http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=Disney+Villains+Victorious
>>36078888>Ape/Monkey:Size: Small to LargeNatural Weapons: Punch, grappleRacial Traits:Wanna Be Like You- +2 on communication rolls with friendly charactersMonkeyin' Around- An ape or monkey of size small or smaller gets +2 on a roll that involves disruption if it is ever determined there will be one; replaces Wanna Be Like YouKnowledge of the Red-Flower- Replaces Wanna Be Like You and Monkeyin' Around. Character can light a fire with one required material as opposed to all of the prerequisites. +2 on rolls relating to fire.Tail- Requires size small and tail. +2 Agility, +1 Charisma, and -2 Robustness. Bonus to movement if climbing.No-Tail- Requires size medium or above and character must not have a tail. +2 Robustness, +1 Will, +1 Sensibility.>>36079051I thought of it and was going to amend it in this post... I am sorry, senpai.
>>36079062The song is written as 'Bare Necessities'.....though I bet we can have fun with this bit of confusion.
>>36079094>>36079062>>36079051I'm playing a Country Bear if I ever find a group to do this game with.
>>36079076Also, the +10 may seem ridiculous, until you think that they have a whole strike less than other players. Pixies die quickly if they can't dodge. So they dodge really damn well.
A mysterious young woman travels throughout Shere Khan and Scar's realms searching for an old friend. Despite her innocent appearance, she is a potent threat and her image has become a rallying cry for dissenting humans, subjugated by the vicious Beast Kings. She claims to be a fugitive from another world and posses a mysterious teleportation ability that help her keep ahead of her pursuers. She believes her friend was exiled somewhere on Earth and is determined to find him.She remembers him simply as 'Kitty' and hopes to find this strange, blue beast alive and well.
>>36079132Oh, yes.....this can work.
>>36079132At first I thought this might be Princess Jasmine, but now I'm scratching my head. Can I get a reference please?
>>36079132Holy fuck. I like it.
Also, I know this is a bit late, but wouldn't King Louie make more sense than Sher Khan?Khan just wanted to kill Mowgli, and was terrified of fire. King Louie wanted to control fire and become the King of something more.So..basically, Planet of the Apes.
>>36079226OH! Ha! I would have never gotten that! Maybe she should check in the Hundred Acre Wood or Wonderland.
>>36079262Don't we have both?
>>36079132We had something for Monster's Inc., like it got corrupted by the evil magics and the Other Side and made the monsters revert to a more primitive form who feed on fear. Once the players had cleared the place out and figured out the tech, either by their own mechanic or by finding one monster who hadn't fallen back, one monster who wasn't noticed much, one ONE-EYED monster who can help, the players could use it as a fast travel hub for their resistance. Once the DOOMroads where brought up that idea sort of went away but we could work with it again.
>>36079278Shere Khan's not that far off, come to think of it
>>36079297So then Mike and Sully's exile would ironically have saved them.
>>36079280I don't know. I've only seen stuff on Khan.But Louie seems like his victory conditions also opens him up to more interactions and plots in this setting.It seems like a short leap for him from trying to learn the secrets of fire, to trying to learn the secrets of magic, or atlantis tech.
and we are at bump limit
>>36079089Canine:Size: Small to MediumNatural Weapons: BiteRacial Traits:Domesticated- +2 communication with friendly characters; replaces wild.Wild- -1 communication with non-beast characters. +1 Robustness or +1 Agility.Good and Smart Master- Requires Domesticated. +2 Charisma, -3 Robustness, and non-beast characters within ten feet get +1 bonus on Intelligence and Robustness rolls.Pack-Member- Requires Wild. +2 communication with unfriendly characters. Friendly beast characters within twenty feet get +1 on Robustness and Agility checks.Puppy-Dog Eyes- Use once a day: +10 bonus to Deceive or Persuasion rolls.>>36079132You funny bastard.
>>36074482Jack was more a villain than Elsa was.
>>36079297Well I'd argue it just went totalitarian, kidnapping children from Earth and slowly becoming more and more nationalist, insular and paranoid. Now it exists as an autocratic state ruled by the slimy President Buscemi. It routinely kidnaps children from Earth but is finding that, as the world grows darker, it is harder and harder to scare them efficiently. Facing a power crisis, plans are being set in motion for some sort of invasion in order to harness Earth's energies more directly.Picture lots of prisons full of terrified children. Nobody knows what happens to them once they get too old to be useful. Boo was the first prisoner and only escaped with the help of a sympathetic monster movement that has long since been quashed underfoot.She travels the world using the door technology to conduct raids on the Monster Society while also searching for her lost friends.
>>36079365Who wants to record the developments on character creation/ racial bonuses?
>>36079339King Louie has a separate realm to the east of Shere Khan.
>CrocodilianSize: Small to LargeNatural Weapons: Bite, Tail Racial Traits:Rivergoer - No penalty to movement in water, slowed movement on landAll-Natural Armour - +2 on defensive rolls.Tick-tock, feed the Croc - +2 to intimidate PiratesCrocodile Tears - +1 to BluffProbably some more traits. but with Louis, Tick Tock, Brutus, Nero.Can't think of any more.>>36079339King Louie has his own Kingdom of the Red Flower.
>>36079387I think this is a great idea, ought to be focused on, and could be a lot of fun. How do racial bonuses work? Are they passive traits or active powers? Do PCs get three on character creation? Do they get more as they progress?
>>36078725>>36078742>>36078766>>36078786>>36078798Awesome. The Sensible Guy needing no special convincing of Arthur's legitimacy is a nice touch.Also, nice to see a couple of my suggested traits being used.
So if we're using El Dorado, is there any chance we could use some of the other DreamWorks films?There's lots of potentially interesting villains there. Ramesses II ruling an Egyptian Empire built on the back of slaves. Lord Victor Quatermaine residing in Australia and vehemently denying rumours that he turns into a savage beast during the full moon. Tai Lung has carved out another Beast Kingdom in China, aided by the industrial machines of Lord Shen. The Frozen North is plagued by Dragons that are beginning to search further and further afield for prey. Ursula's seas team with Great White Sharks led by Don Vito (with Bruce heading up an Australian contingent).At the very least, handing over some of the huge Hun Empire to Tai Lung has to be worth considering. It would give more options for Beast players as well.
>>36079455Maybe I misspoke, I was just referring to these posts >>36078708 >>36078888 >>36079076 >>36079089that determined the bonuses/penalties of certain races.
>>36079623>Drago Bludvist's Empire of Dragonsmuh dick
>>36079666Ah, sorry! I thought you meant for all the player nationalities/races on the whole: Atlanteans, Beasts, Pixies etc.
>>36078067Polymorphed humans would be able to talk to animals, even when they're returned to human form. (See Princess and the Frog, Tia is able to communicate with Louis)Also, Talk To Animals should be a skill. It's probably a common Shadowlands ability (Facilier was able to do it).As a little tweak, if while in the West, the Slim Gang does their yodeling trick, then anyone who knows animal speak must make a resist roll or they'll be charmed as well.
>>36079692Don't you mean his AAAAAAAAAAAAAHmpire?
>Avoid Harm has put an end to the dodge/tank issue>Different species are already being stat'd>All this funI love every single one of you
we may need to archive this and make a new thread
>>36079782And we love you, random citizen.
>>36079623>Professor Ratigan and The Toad vie for control of Britain's sewer system.Holy shit, it writes itself. They're both camp Englishmen but they despise one another and are constantly fighting back and forth. Expect bitchy comments about each other's outfits and a complete ambivalence to the undead creatures stalking the soil above their heads.
>>36079802The thread has already been archived:http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=Disney+Villains+Victorious
>>36079802I thought it had been archived? We need to upvote that shit.
>>36079816And a constant mockery of/from France
>>36079623We might use other DreamWorks films but for now we are only using what is needed. We need El Dorado because South America has very few Disney movies for that area. Other places don't really have that much of a lack in villains.
Ok, Tai Lung has to be in this. He's too fucking perfect a villain and having a triumvirate of Big Cat Kingdoms is too juicy to pass up.
>>36079623>>36079816I don't know, guys. The point of including El Dorado was just because Disney didn't have an Aztec setting. Including Tai Lung removes Mulan, including the Vikings could mess up Elsa since giant fire-breathing monsters vs ice, it just messes with too many things we already have. Also, why does Britain have a sewer system? It got taken over by the Horned King in the medieval period.
>>36079849Dreamworks should be a splat for later discussion. Great ideas though.
Does someone want to make a new thread? I figure we should task it to one person to avoid multiple being made.
>>36079889Doing it now. I shall make this new thread as I have most of the others.
>>36079262I've done a bit of writing on King Louis, but it hasn't received much comment so far. A couple ideas which have been thrown around>The monkeys worship fire>King Louis is a Caligula>People start hearing jazz music in the forest and can't help but dance to it>Monkeys steal tech from human nations>arson everywhere
>>36079900So you're the one. We are truly and honestly in your debt for helping to keep things rolling. I've been having great fun in these threads and with this setting, so believe me, this is genuine gratitude.
I vote against including the rest of Dreamworks. El Dorado is there because it fits almost perfectly, but the rest just clashes
>>36079939Problem is they almost always have to be started at 5 in the bloody morning.
>>36079875No. We have Shan Yu in China already. We'll consider making an expansion for dreamworks movies later.
>>36079918Really been enjoying these ideas, and like the work that's been done to turn him from a comic relief to a swinging, cargo-culting arsonist king. He seems more dumb and misguided than outright malicious, and I've been thinking he might be one of the few Beast Kings that could potentially become an ally.
>>36079952NEW THREAD HERE GO GO NOW>>36079994
>>36079877Professor Ratigan is already in the sewers.And Tai Lung wouldn't remove the Huns, just take some of their land. They've got plenty of it. I mean, Shan Yu is kind of a bland villain and his presence makes Imperial China a thing of the past. Giving Tai Lung a chunk of South China will add some diversity and give Beast player's another area to occupy outside of Africa and India.The rest are take it or leave it (expansion material perhaps) but I really think Tai Lung would be a great addition.
>>36079989I feel that he is more of a leader of a chaotic state, while he might not outrightly order for things to happen, and probably wouldn't be able to anyways, his followers just do things in his name.
>>36079944>>36079962Agreed. I also feel like Shan Yu, Hun Dynastic China, the Spiritual Rebellion and Mulan the Undying are more than enough for to keep that region interesting. You might be able to get away with including the dreamworks characters in a tiny mountain enclave as part of a side quest or mini campaign though. Dreamworks properties are going to be used best as subtle flavor and filler, I think.
>>36080068According to the map, Shan Yu rules over all of China, Japan, N+S Korea, Eastern Russia, Mongolia and Kazakhstan. That's a vast Empire. Surely there's room for Tai Lung to carve out his own, more traditionally Chinese, Kingdom that rivals Shere Khan's Indian power to the West.What if we snatched some of his Siberian lands and just said 'Here be Dragons'.
>>36077431Okay, I know this is a while back, but let me clarify.Prevent harm blocks attacks made on your person, whether it be cauldronborn sword or Atlantean death laser. Endure blocks social and magical damage, as well as acting like Survival. Chances are good that unless you're the face, you won't need more than one rank in it.