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You are Sonia Reynard, Attack Wing Leader and Knight of the House of Jerik-Dremine! While you were out on the front lines you command a fleet of attack ships, raiding enemy convoys and disrupting logistics.

Over the past few months you temporarily returned to combat, helping to defend House assets in the Pandora Cluster against a Neeran invasion attempt. The enemy ran into unexpectedly fierce resistance with the various Factions rushing reserve fleets into the cluster, holding them long enough to turn the tide.

Not one to let an opportunity pass you deployed a fleet with salvage assets to help the Alliance pursuit forces, saving thousands of lives and dozens of ships that had been crippled by enemy fire. Your salvage company RSS will be able to use their work over the past weeks to better promote themselves for contracts. With the help of the some of the House corvette squadrons your salvage ships were also able to locate abandoned ships devoid of survivors that might have otherwise been missed for a time.
Better yet was that they were recovered without assistance from the Alliance and without their observers aboard your ships. As a result there has been no need to split the loot with them or the previous owners. A squadron of attack ships have been added to the House fleet because of this and engineers are working on rebuilding a Neeran Heavy Cruiser using the remains of two others.

Your House made out relatively unscathed in the recent fighting losing handfuls of small ships. Other Houses were not so fortunate and many blame the the Ruling House and the Emperor for their misfortune. As many as half the Houses intend to stop sending fleets to the front, preferring to provide funding and material resources to the Alliance and let them deal with it.
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>>36102050
FOR HOUSE AND DOMINION
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>>36102050
FOR HOUSE AND DOMINION!
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It's hard to tell if this is the best or worst time for this sort of political infighting to happen. The larger Houses that plan to pull their fleets claim that should the Neeran launch another offensive they'll once again commit their reserves to defending against it.

With signs that the Neeran are digging in and fortifying their positions in Shallan space it could be some time before they launch another large scale offensive. The Factions are preparing to do much the same, with the newest weapon systems being largely built for defensive purposes they're now launching projects to build new stations.

Exodus has been contracted to construct numerous fleet bases able to maintain and repair super heavy cruisers and support craft while also being armed with the new guns. Republic Heavy plasma cannons will be able to ward off attack by the largest Neeran Supers. Armored and enclosed logistics depots may limit the total amount of fuel and supplies stored but it will protect them from the ravages of corvette attacks. Starfighters may pose a problem if they can get through gaps in the shields but for the moment the Factions have an edge in that department.

A prisoner exchange is coming up which many hope will be conducted without incident.

The Alliance is diverting many of their aces to training units to help replace recent losses. With the new transfers most of your best pilots will be scattered to different areas for months. Everyone will be working with people from other Factions to train them much like in your first tour to get the best tactics and experience available.
The people you all help train will be getting the best equipment available, provided they meet the grade. It looks like the House will be holding many of the older corvette and Mixed squadrons in reserve until or unless they're needed.

As a high ranking officer you'll have options for choosing where you're posted and have the opportunity to interact with Alliance R&D if you choose to do so.
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>>36102571

I'm horribly mixed on this one. The Pandora Cluster is tempting because of the possible chances to hunt down Neeran that have gone to ground, but we have a horrible amount of politicking to get done in the Centari(?) Cluster back home.

It also takes us away from every RSS operation.

Gonna have to vote Centari Cluster.
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>>36102778
>Centari(?) Cluster
Centri, but close enough.


Alliance posting options.

Norune Space
This location would not be advisable unless you were planning to stay there for several years. Almost 7 week's travel time from the House homeworlds, it would not afford you much time back home to visit with family members or do anything else.
The Norune wish to contribute to the Alliance cause and as such plan to raise and train a fleet. While their ships are of good quality their military is notoriously weak. Their isolation from the other Factions are their primary defense. The training this fleet could learn would strengthen their defense forces considerably and as a result they are promising considerable funding. Funding the Alliance will be in desperate need of if they're to shoulder the weight of future operations.

Nav Relay TAC 2
A small cluster jointly settled by the Terran Alliance and House Kharbos, this was the site of the first major battle were the scarab class light attack ship was deployed. (And where it was proven to be terrible when fighting on its own.)
Several of the smaller Houses that now occupy this cluster still wish to contribute to the war effort. Possibly so that they'll be prepared should they need to attack the local Terran colonies later. Due to fighting in the Faction wars there are sizable populations of most Faction species present. Several joint training bases are being set up and a few small shipyards have been sold to the Alliance to provide corvettes.
While about as close as the Pandora cluster the region is less developed and it may be more difficult to keep tabs on all of the RSS operations from there.

More to follow. These seemed like they would be overlooked if I didn't mention them first.
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>>36103221
Norune Space Cont.
R&D: Body armor, phased weaponry, Modular Forward Base, planetary shields, Cruiser & battleship development.

Centri Cluster
The closest to home. Even the farthest points in the cluster are closer than the Smuggler's Run. R&D: Nearly all R&D projects are available from here with the exception of Republic plasma weapons.

Pandora Cluster
3 weeks travel from home, this is where the Alliance is focusing most of their resources not directed towards Shallan space.
R&D: Many R&D projects are available from here. Siege weapons are not.

South Reach
2.5 weeks from home. This is one of the more turbulent areas the Alliance isn't actively fighting in. Plenty of recruits from both the Dominion and Warlord occupied territories need to be trained. The South Reach League are increasingly strapped for ships, those that are not skilled enough to get hold of their own may still prove to be excellent pilots and captains.
R&D: ECM & Jamming, afterburners, power cell armor, Super heavy cruiser development, Mass driver weapons, several other niche techs.

Smuggler's Run
A week's travel from home, less aboard your Excalibur. Several Houses have set up shipyards in the region including your own. It is the source of most new attack cruisers for the House and its allies. With the pirates gone it is also a good recruiting ground.
The Alliance has been given a few bases in the Nav Relay by Houses increasingly less interested in fighting themselves.
R&D: Limited to a few areas of study. Cruiser & battleship development, Engines/ Propulsion, Fusion cannons, several other minor techs.

Hune Republic
More than 4 weeks to any location of note, the Republic is planning to import the shipyards and technology for modern attack ship designs. As such they'll need to train units with less familiar flight profiles and tactics.
R&D: Most R&D projects are available in addition to; Plasma tech, alternative SP munitions, Advanced Power armor, advanced starfighters.
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>Cont
Small scale and man portable plasma weaponry.

Melee weapon/bayonet R&D is only available in the Dominion, SRL and Republic.

Super Heavy Cruiser development is not available in Republic space due to their reliance on Heavy Carriers.
Starship Armor tech R&D not available because their armor sucks.

Were there any particular areas not mentioned you wanted more information on? Or R&D projects you would prefer to have access to?
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>>36104257
Could you be so kind to put this decision in a overnight survey?

>Were there any particular areas not mentioned you wanted more information on?

Are any FA postings available in the territory of the remaining factions? What about Krath space?

>Or R&D projects you would prefer to have access to?
Which areas specialize in stasis tech?
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>>36104257

Has anything come of Lat'tham space? And have we gotten any word on: Warlord that we talked to about the bounty/SRL ship seizures; our various sleeper ship contacts (Endeavour, Cascading Fury, Captain Murilo [ship name never given, Krath from the Vieona bit], and Commander Te'ria Vulra [the scrapped one we found in Pandora Cluster during first Neeran encounters]?

And out of curiosity, are J-D allied Houses among those that want to pull out of the war? Or any of the 7 (or their allied/underling Houses?)
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>>36104257
>Were there any particular areas not mentioned you wanted more information on? Or R&D projects you would prefer to have access to?

Well I would like to work on SP tech but that's just so we can steal it. And with the Terrans currently believing we have some info on that already it may be sort of a bad idea to ask for more info.

Now shield tech and plasma tech is what interests me the most. Followed ofcourse by stealth tech. In fact any project that could get us to work with the Rovinar would be a blast. Need more contacts and goodwill from them if you ask me for when we declare war on the Terrans. Or you know they declare war on us.

And I am leaning towards Centri cluster or Pandora cluster.

Now... For House and Dominion!
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As far as projects to pursue we have the mass rifle and HAG as ongoing. There was that armoured medical bodyglove project we are funding too. There is also the planetary shield support barge and modular attack cruiser ideas.

I'm leaving to see a movie soon so I'll probably miss a vote, these are my top research subjects. I'm favouring Centri or Hune. Hune if we want to double down on plasma technologies. Centri for everything else.

- Plasma, ship scale and soldier scale.
- Shields, hull-hugging, planetary etc.
- Power Armour, matroska, power cell, medical exoskeletons etc.
- Repulsor tech, jump jet armour, ship thrusters, repulsor skates/gloves.
- Modular cruiser tech, parts commonality, sockets etc.
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>>36104388
>Could you be so kind to put this decision in a overnight survey?
It will be.

>Are any FA postings available in the territory of the remaining factions?
There are several available in the Centri Cluster in Dominion, Terran, Rovinar and Kavarian territory.

South Reach is largely Dominion and SRL territory with the exception of a few outposts belonging to other Factions.
NAV TAC 2 locations are mostly decommissioned border outposts between current Terran and Dominion holdings.

>>36104500
>Has anything come of Lat'tham space?
Their territory in the NAV DRH 2 Relay was mostly handed over to one of the other Houses. House Lat'tham still has a few worlds there I believe, but most would be located in the Centri Cluster.

>Warlord that we talked to about the bounty/SRL ship seizures
He's still alive. Probably curious about why you haven't talked to him yet.

>various sleeper ship contacts
These will follow once I have a moment.

>are J-D allied Houses among those that want to pull out of the war?
Some of them would like to. At the moment they're merely scaling back operations.

>Or any of the 7
Yes. House Bonrah is the most powerful House that wants to pull their forces followed by House Xygen, who is more or less allied with Ber'helum. Ber'helum does not want to pull their forces.

Everyone has expected House Kharbos to come out against the war but so far they have not.

Helios is all for staying in, attempting to support the Ruling House and downplay a potential schism.
The other two of the seven are reluctantly backing the Ruling House.
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>>36104039
I have to say i'm stuck between the Pandora Cluster and the Hune Republic.

I say Hune because what has time and time again been made perfectly clear is that our house does not have the tech it needs to to properly maintain Plasma weaponry for any extended period of time (The fact that our one ship the devourer consumes most of their ability shows this) and we have 0 tech in manufacturing.

So if we could get a hold of plasma tech from Pandora? I would be all for that. And hey! The hune has crappy armor right? Isn't it quite something that we have an armor company?
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>>36104953
>He's still alive. Probably curious about why you haven't talked to him yet.

Been a little busy with recent events I would say and funnily enough we were most likely going to visit/talk to him about it if this whole situation hadn't happened. Should really set up a meeting with him.
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>>36104953
>It will be.
Thank you, my internet has be really unreliable today, that way I'll be able to vote from work tomorrow if it decides to stop working again.

Are any of our AI acquaintances deployed in the region? I think we haven't called Versa for several months either.

Any word on how the resistance in the maelstrom galaxy has been doing?
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>>36104953
Does our house have any preference to where we are deploying?
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>>36104990

I think it is best if we support Dominion plasma tech, rather than end up dependent upon the Hune like the Shallan are.

Yes, they get the new Hune guns. But the moment the Hune decide they don't feel like handing out the parts, you're screwed.

They also don't seem like the folks that will let their plasma tech leave their control, either.
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>>36105262
Hune space would also manage to get us closer to the our Neerans.
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>>36105310

Is there actually a strategic goal associated with that?

With Svidur gone, I can't really think of anything we can actually do involving them. Unless we're going to sneak into another city ship's archive thing or give them our SP torp data to be spread across all the Factions in the hope of some sort of SP detente.
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>>36105433
I think they're where the Hune got their original plasma weapon tech from. We might find some way to get it.
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>>36105262
I'd agree with this Hune Plasma tech is probably similar to how the Terrans treat SP tech, they're not just going to hand information over.

I'm in favour of staying in Pandora, we need to expand the Dominion/House/RSS influence here. Colonel Firth said that he'd have an opportunity for us soon, we're close to the front if anything happens, and we still have the opportunity to research plasma tech.
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>>36104388
>What about Krath space?
Not available as a training post.

>>36104500
>or their allied/underling Houses?
These are a different story from the 7. The smaller houses are reacting on a case by case basis. Obviously those with very strong ties to the larger Houses that helped found them are trying to support their stance but that isn't always possible.

>>36105171
>Does our house have any preference to where we are deploying?
Not really. Those within the House that do would prefer that you were someplace that wouldn't cause them trouble. So places outside of South Reach, the Smugglers Run, or the Centri cluster.

>>36104526
>Well I would like to work on SP tech but that's just so we can steal it. And with the Terrans currently believing we have some info on that already it may be sort of a bad idea to ask for more info.
Its doubtful you'd be able to work on many SP projects in Terran space unless you had a really good idea. SP mass driver munitions are not likely to be something they're interested in.

>Now shield tech and plasma tech is what interests me the most.
The Dominion, Kavarians and the Terrans are working or Fusion cannon development in the hopes of upgrading them with Neeran tech. This is a project separate from the Republic.

>In fact any project that could get us to work with the Rovinar would be a blast.
The Rovinar are rumored to be starting work on a ground attack platform that would fill a role similar to the HAG, but using scaled down E-beams instead of mass drivers.

>>36104827
Mass rifle is largely at the refinement stage. It's a working weapon that only needs minor adjustment per customer.
A better question is, would you be prepared to sell production licenses for them?

>There was that armoured medical bodyglove project we are funding too.
That's something you could focus your efforts on too.

>I'll probably miss a vote
This one will take awhile.
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>>36105570
>A better question is, would you be prepared to sell production licenses for them?
Yes, I imagine we could get a fair amount of money from selling licenses instead of guns since we lack the manufacturing capability's right now. Just need to be careful who in the Dominion gets it as we don't want them to be used by hostile Houses.

>The Dominion, Kavarians and the Terrans are working or Fusion cannon development
Not plasma but the next best thing I suppose? Can we push for the Dominion to begin a join Plasma tech program? Cause you said before we could not do it before and I really would like it if we could get Plasma tech for the Dominion as we then could truly begin to kick faction ass.
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>>36104827
>Modular cruiser tech, parts commonality, sockets etc.
This is being worked on somewhat by everyone.
The Republic is looking at replacing their Frigates and Light Cruisers with pair of classes that use interchangeable modules. Like their Medium Cruiser but on a smaller scale.

The reminds me, the Alliance is requesting design proposals for a Fast Battleship that can be kitted out with different weapons and systems depending on the mission. One of the requested options is the ability to mount a plasma weapons like Shallan battlecruisers or the Devourer.

>>36104990
>And hey! The hune has crappy armor right? Isn't it quite something that we have an armor company?
Guns for armor?

>>36105784
>>36105262
>I think it is best if we support Dominion plasma tech, rather than end up dependent upon the Hune like the Shallan are.
>Yes, they get the new Hune guns. But the moment the Hune decide they don't feel like handing out the parts, you're screwed.
There is a project inside the Dominion that is working on this. You loaned them the Devourer.

The Republic isn't straight up giving away their weapons tech. They are increasing production and the number of guns they're selling to particular groups. The problem you've pointed out is a very real one.

>>36105468
>I think they're where the Hune got their original plasma weapon tech from.
Nope. The Hune developed their plasma tech the hard way, by running into enemies that needed the brute force of more powerful guns to solve. The Isolationists traded for the weapons in the Faction Wars.

>>36105310
>Hune space would also manage to get us closer to the our Neerans.
>>36105433
>With Svidur gone, I can't really think of anything we can actually do involving them.
Well you could request to go on a diplomatic mission. I'm not sure how effective it would be. In the process you wouldn't be training any attack wings or working on much in the way of R&D.
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How was our armor merger proposal received? Also, what was the reaction to our various acquisitions recently (the two planets, the heavy cruiser) both in and outside the house
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>>36105570
>some people in the House want us out of House holdings.
Are there any whispered names to this, or just a general 'you assume'?

>fusion cannon tech
Is this because Neeran weapons are a fusion/plasma hybrid deal, or that the Dominion, Kavarians and Terrans just don't have real plasma cannon tech?

>Mass driver production licenses
Well, have we be approached by anyone regarding that? Or are there enough actual orders that our limited facilities can't keep up already?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but we're talking about a weapon that is both anti-infantry and anti-powered armor? (possibly even anti-tank, where lighter armor or weak points are concerned)

There are some serious considerations to take into account with production licenses and making sure that no FPL (or gang) folks can use 'failed' parts to make working black market versions. We may need to have double and triple safeties in place to ensure that nothing goes missing, and demand these of anyone we allow to hold a production license.

Possibly limit to J-D production and maybe some FA?
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>>36105570
>A better question is, would you be prepared to sell production licenses for them?

I would guess that would depend on the terms for the license...

>The Hune developed their plasma tech the hard way,

Oooh, that's impressive. Why has nobody tried to copy them? It must suck to depend on the other factions if you don't have plasma or SP production capabilities as a future space super power.
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>our various sleeper ship contacts
>Endeavour
Most of these people are scattered. You're able to find out that Doctor Anushree Sanjukta is currently working at an alliance lab in the Nav Relay just outside of Republic space. On what you're not granted clearance to find out. You can get a message to her.

Endeavour itself is currently assigned to the same nav relay and South Reach.

The captain disapeared, taking part in some intelligence nonsense.

>Cascading Fury,
The former Lt Commander Thebe is now a high ranking liason officer between the Alliance and the Republic, overseeing Medium cruiser assignments. His ship was destroyed last year but more than half the crew were able to escape with emergency teleporters.

>Captain Murilo [Krath, Alias]
Unknown. Presumably working as a liason between the Alliance and the Krath.

>Commander Te'ria Vulra [the scrapped one we found in Pandora Cluster during first Neeran encounters]?
Fought for a year and a half then took leave to see House Dunab'im space and attempt to get more support. Despite having deliberately given up all land holdings and assets before joining the sleeper fleet Vulra was quickly given a title and a small plot of land at which point the head of the House attempted to use the Knight to shore up his flagging support base.

Vulra is currently a Baron having been promoted after leadership of the House abruptly changed hands to a younger more resourceful Earl 8 months ago.
House Dunab'im is now a strong supporter of the war effort.

>>36105056
It takes a few days but you eventually get hold of Warlord Cirtap Krussk, or Alliance Admiral Krussk. It seems his fleet had once again proven itself, bombarding Neeran ships with their scrap cannons and acting as forward repair ships for smaller craft. Like most of those who took part in the operations in the Pandora cluster he had lost ships but will be going home with a considerable pile of salvage.
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"Knight Captain, or should I say General Reynard. It's good to finally hear from you again. I was beginning to wonder if you were ever planning to speak to me again. Despite the offer of a very equitable exchange."

You apologise as you've been a little busy with recent events. Had the invasion of the Pandora Cluster not come up you would have been requesting an audience only days after the Neeran fleet had arrived.

"And even if you had I would have been unavoidably detained by the same problem it seems. I really expected you would have requested to talk to me much earlier, on the order of 6 or 8 months. You were back out on the front lines fighting again when news broke that evidence of a conspiracy had come out. It seems someone in your House must have been in a hurry to have their own bounty removed. Or just hoped to claim a reward of their own by revealing the plot."

Wait a second.

"It's a shame you were never able to get the information to us. Still, I'm not unsympathetic to the position you're in, wanting a bounty removed. If you can offer something in trade I give you my word I'll do what I can to have it taken care of."

>What say?
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>>36108382

Oh wow, this guy. Is this what interacting with salvage mode Sonia is like for people from the other factions?

>What say?
"Thank you Admiral. As soon as I can think of anything adequate to offer I won't hesitate to contact you."
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>>36108382
"Well.... Heeey! Ah well, good thing it worked out for everyone involved. Except those that it did not work out for."

>>36108686
You are probably right
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>>36108382

"Hear of the 'Warlord of the Maelstrom' yet?"

Maybe we should contact some of the SRL guys we pulled from the Maelstrom galaxy about a deal, instead.
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>>36107240
>Is this because Neeran weapons are a fusion/plasma hybrid deal, or that the Dominion, Kavarians and Terrans just don't have real plasma cannon tech?
Both.
The Terrans probably have the tech to make knock offs but they wouldn't have as much punch as Republic cannons.

>Well, have we be approached by anyone regarding that? Or are there enough actual orders that our limited facilities can't keep up already?
Not yet, give it time.

>There are some serious considerations to take into account with production licenses and making sure that no FPL (or gang) folks can use 'failed' parts to make working black market versions. We may need to have double and triple safeties in place to ensure that nothing goes missing, and demand these of anyone we allow to hold a production license.
Do you want a team set aside to look into this? Or make some other preparations so that they cant fall into the wrong hands?
Just remember that the more precautions, the more its going to complicate sales.

>>36107638
>Why has nobody tried to copy them?
Terrans and Republic sold each other SP's and cannons so it wasn't a big issue and the Terrans didn't have the industrial capacity to spare rebuilding after the wars. Kavarians were banned from new weapons research after the wars until a few decades ago. Rovinar didn't care because they had their own weapons preferences.
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>How was our armor merger proposal received?
Mostly positive upon showing them the actual value of the company rather than just what House Posat was telling people. It should prove to be profitable for everyone involved though the amount of cash you're raking in will diminish slightly for some time.

>Also, what was the reaction to our various acquisitions recently (the two planets, the heavy cruiser) both in and outside the house
Depending on how the House Veritas deal goes the House could end up getting more than 1 planet from them.
But most of the nobility are in agreement that you've made some strateigic political connections with certain Houses and groups and that there does seem to be the possibility that you can play the politics game.

>>36107240
>Are there any whispered names to this, or just a general 'you assume'?
Winifred believes that at least one of them is Lord Holtby due to your association with her. But he tends to hold a grudge over the smallest slights unless there's a financially sound reason to get over it.

>>36108686
>Oh wow, this guy. Is this what interacting with salvage mode Sonia is like for people from the other factions?
It can be.

You guys had the opportunity to get the info to the Warlords, or a number of other people, but instead you gave it to Winifred.

>>36108686
>"Thank you Admiral, good thing it worked out for everyone involved. As soon as I can think of anything adequate to offer I won't hesitate to contact you.

Heard of the 'Warlord of the Maelstrom' yet?"

"Warlords, plural yes. The admiral I sold a number of scrap cannons to was the first to actually repay me for them. Your terror missions were probably just as destructive to the enemy morale as the follow up raids were to material resources."

I have to step out for an hour or so. I'll resume when I'm able.
Any other Company or station name suggestions that didn't get into the last survey? Other types of research you'd like to look into?
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>>36109464

Awesome. Winifred's method of handling it screwed us on our original goal. (even if we were aiming low. Should have demanded a SHC or parts for them. Can't say I didn't see it coming, though)

We'll have to see what Winifred actually got out of the whole thing.

>Holtby

What does this jackass actually do in the House, again? planetary governor?
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>>36110647
>We'll have to see what Winifred actually got out of the whole thing.
Every House involved in the plot took a hit to prestiege and to relations with every House that was not. They also lost money and ships. Effectively every House involved went down a few pegs on the list of how powerful everyone is. Jerik-Dremine went up more than 10 places as did many of its allies.
In theory the SRL should have been the most to gain from this all. They did recieve some reparations and some older ships back but that was it. The final handover of resources was given to the SRL by the Ruling House. It's likely they simply kept some of it using any of a number of excuses.

You've effectively payed off the Ruling House affording J-D additional protection should you be attacked by one of their enemies and improving relations.

>>36110647
>Holtby
>What does this jackass actually do in the House, again? planetary governor?
Correct. He's one of the top 10 richest people in the House but had trouble building relations with the militarily. He got on well enough with the Barons but it wasn't until he married Winifred that his governorship became secure.
A rumor had it that an unspecified General and more than two dozen Knights were waiting for the opportunity to topple him due to his unpopularity or have him assassinated. Holtby took the threat to be real enough that he could scarcely risk inviting anyone from the world's military to social functions.

That was years ago however and he has had years to entrench himself.

At some point there's going to be a more detailed map the the J-D homeworlds.
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>>36111830
I guess that trade off is better than what we could have hoped for if we gave it to SRL.
How about offering to make him a better deal with RSS for armor plating and ships. We also should have a supply of salvaged ships from Pandora.
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>>36111830
What are we estimated at right now? I'd imagine that it matters a lot how you value RSS.
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>>36112074
There is no way we're selling anti-torp armor to the SRL. It would be political suicide to give equipment like that to a faction of pirates, especially when they may just buy a bit of it and decide to make knockoffs like some sort of space china.

Glorious SRL assault corvette that looks like your Mk3! 100% native SRL design!
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>>36112151
to clarify, this is asking where we are estimated to be in the J-D fortune 500
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>>36112151
>What are we estimated at right now? I'd imagine that it matters a lot how you value RSS.
Top 20. It's hard to compete with some of the better established nobles that own large swaths of habitable worlds. It will be higher once Rioja has finished terraforming.

>>36112174
>especially when they may just buy a bit of it and decide to make knockoffs like some sort of space china.
They may not have the metallurgy. They've been using better quality scrap from ships plated with similar stuff for awhile now. True you didn't see it that often but ships with it generally belonged to important people.

>political suicide to give equipment like that to a faction of pirates
You guys do produce transports, that wouldn't get you in trouble. There are also your SP Torpedo stockpiles if you're desperate to get rid of that bounty.
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>>36112499
Transports sounds like it would work. Alternatively we could mention to him unnoffically that a few houses that don't get along with Helios are looking into modifying house transports into modified siege guns. Unfortunately for them, those ships are generally expensive antiques and strictly limited in quantity. If only there was someone who could produce a cheap knockoff with no regard for dominion laws on the subject...
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>>36112499
Did we ever give that knight (Miyush avan IIRC) a heads up that her house might want to consider securing any assets they have in Posat space? Or at least ensure that they aren't being defrauded. After all, I rather doubt we were the only person who was being cheated.
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>>36112499

I'm really not all that bothered by the bounty, really. We could probably look into what other FA folks have similar black market bounties due to the war with the Warlords and try to get the FA to force the SRL members to combat any bounties on FA officers.

Giving him anything more than a discount on transports isn't worth getting the bounty removed.
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>>36112605
>Alternatively we could mention to him unnoffically that a few houses that don't get along with Helios are looking into modifying house transports into modified siege guns. Unfortunately for them, those ships are generally expensive antiques and strictly limited in quantity. If only there was someone who could produce a cheap knockoff with no regard for dominion laws on the subject...

It sounds foolish (to me, at least) to outsource something like that to the SRL. Just make a few House Transports into prototypes, get some testing done with them, and call it a new class after you've figured out what needs to be modified. Either restore or rebuild the House Transports if they're absolutely that important to your House.

They'll probably either up size or down size the actual width of the HT to fit more guns or reduce resource investment, respectively.

... hell, we could probably convince Winifred to use the RSS HT as a proof-of-concept for the idea and get a chance to name it after J-D or something.
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>>36112605
So don't mention this?

>>36112771
>Did we ever give that knight (Miyush avan IIRC) a heads up that her house might want to consider securing any assets they have in Posat space?
I'm going to say that you did.

>>36112830
>I'm really not all that bothered by the bounty, really. We could probably look into what other FA folks have similar black market bounties due to the war with the Warlords and try to get the FA to force the SRL members to combat any bounties on FA officers.
Most have simply ignored it or increased their security. It's been some time since anyone tried to collect a bounty from back then. Yours is a bit higher than most thanks to the infamy associated with the initial event.

>Giving him anything more than a discount on transports isn't worth getting the bounty removed.
"On how many transports? That information would have been quite valuable. A discount isn't quite the same."

Do you have a set number of ships you're willing to discount, the size of the discount, or would you consider simply trading him some for getting rid of it?
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>>36113136

>quoted discount or bust anon here, and >>36113001


"It would have also cost you more than just dealing with a single black market bounty. As it stands, you've made it clear that the information is a moot point."

I'm tempted to offer a discount on 10 transports, but I'm more curious to see what he thinks a fair trade is in exchange for that bounty being removed.

I'll rant about strategic outsourcing some other time, preferably at a wall.
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Hey everyone, I haven't read the threads in a few months and was just curious on the current status. Are we still doing the: fight Neerans, make our impact on the overall offensive, get shore leave, develop status and company, and back to war?

Any endgame in sight or are we just going through the motions? Its only been a few years in-game since the start of this right?

Thanks and sorry for the interruption.
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>>36113292
We were on shore leave, Neeran launched a fleet 'off grid' into the Pandora Cluster to take out our logistics there. We mustered a taskforce to defend the DHI facility there.

We're currently in a sort of limbo in the Pandora Cluster, due to the Neeran assault being driven back to Shallan space, and preparing for our force to be reassigned to training duty during the next tour.

I believe it has been ~3 years in-game, or less?
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>>36113275
>I'll rant about strategic outsourcing some other time, preferably at a wall.
Is this to him or the other anons?

>>36113292
>Any endgame in sight or are we just going through the motions?
I dunno, the last 2 tours were starting to feel like it. We needed to get past the invasion attempt on the Pandora Cluster before I could realistically do a long term timeskip.

>Its only been a few years in-game since the start of this right?
We started in late 4023 and it is currently mid 4027 as of the start of the aforementioned timeskip we're working on now.

In the mid-long term there are 2 or more Dominion related storylines, some of them major although that may not (hopefully) make them long, and options for 2-6 Alliance ones depending on if the players still want to go that direction. Any and all of them can be aborted by doing something stupid and getting Sonia killed.

In the ultra-long term there are additional Dominion storylines and options for Alliance or retirement ones.
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>>36113505
to other anons, mostly. I'd rather not give this guy any ideas for his ilk to steal.
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>>36113505
>>36113414
Thanks guys, I'll keep an eye out for these threads then binge read to catch up sometime. The anons here have always been good with voting and tactical decisions that I don't feel the need to actively vote in every thread.

Except the for the whole sharkskin fiasco, man that was fucking weird.
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Another option for a posting is available and will be added to the survey.

Alliance Explorer Corps
It may be some months before their first missions are launched but early prep work to form this unit is already underway. With this momentary pause in the war the Alliance wishes to assess potential threats to Faction space.

The Neeran were not the only threat the sleeper fleet was created to guard against. The Watchers out beyond South Reach are one of the few that are even known of. Rogue Kavarian Warlords seemed the most likely internal threat but that evolved into a genuine multi-species affair thanks to piracy.
The Navigators are good at charting and mapping pathways to other relays and galaxy clusters but it's been some time since any of their findings were made public. For good reason. The Warlords might have swarmed into an area with little means of resisting them.

Should they encounter hostile threats the guild lacks the military capability to deal with it which is where the explorer corps comes in. If you're looking for things to be more Trek themed this would be your ticket.

For the moment exploration of the Neeran Empire will be restricted to cloaked ships, likely with Krath involvement. Once an initial entry point has been determined longer term missions may become available. It's expected that this will allow fleets to be sent behind enemy lines.

There will be opportunities to do some work for the Explorer Corps even if you decide not to go down that route. You do personally own some fast ships after all.
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SURVEY <<<<<<<<<

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>>36113624
>Except the for the whole sharkskin fiasco, man that was fucking weird.
I will say that was a bit odd.
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>>36113783
>Alliance Explorer Corps

Oh. Oh you sly devil.
Stop tempting me with exploration of the unknown especially since a certain best friend of ours might get recruited by the Navigator's Guild.

If we did go this route we would have a while before the first mission is sent....maybe just enough time to get us a position in leading any house forces going perhaps? Who knows what treasures you might find in the deep of space...
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>>36114000
I think we had gone mad with loot and salvage at that point in time. I think we have calmed down a little at the very least.
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Ah crap, something just occurred to me.

What happened to those Shallan shipyards we recovered from behind the lines and invested in?

And TCS Loreto, I guess. Wonder how our AI friends are doing.
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>>36113783
>Alliance Explorer Corps
I like the sound of it...

But what would the impact on our standing in the House / Dominion / FA be if we went down this route?

It'd also mean that we couldn't really do much with RSS, right?
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>>36114000
>4. Is there anything of note you would like Sonia to take care of over the course of the timeskip?
Anyone come up with any suggestions?

Other than training like we usually do and practicing some ballet, I've got nothing...
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>>36114000
TSTG, in terms of Alliance R&D projects, is the list on the wiki up to date with everything available for us to focus on?
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>>36114656
Yeah, it would mean in the time leading up to our deployment would be used to set everything up with Mr. London for future operations, working with the "admiral" in the Pandora cluster, and for possible expansion into different areas of interest or if a opportunity presents itself. Would most likely crack up the politicking up to 10 while we were at it.

"This" is why we see Winifred always working. You have to just to stay ahead of the game.
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>Correct me if I'm wrong, but we're talking about a weapon that is both anti-infantry and anti-powered armor?
Basically what we did was take a 20mm antitank rifle and combine it with a mass driver. The mass driver part makes the rifle more powerful and/or shorter and also allows you shoot smaller projectiles out of the same barrel. This gives you a better antitank rifle at the cost of some extra weight that also functions as an LMG or HMG depending on what you load it with.

"Antitank rifle" is a bit of a misnomer because any tank worthy of the name will shrug it off like nothing happened. There are always a couple softer bits like the optics you can damage with light weapons (and the crew obviously). But pretty much anything else is fair game, and Power Armour is such that some suits can be as tough or tougher than vehicles. We originally designed the rifle to fight Neeran because they've demonstrated the ability to mess around and redirect energy weapons. Kinetic rifle shells to counter superheavy infantry and the mass driver to gun down the hordes of fodder infantry they tend to hang around with.

>>36114000
>>36114122
I like to think of Sonia's shark obsession as her brain's pressure release valve. It's easy to forget but we've Seen Some Shit. Especially in our early career when we didn't have the resources we have now. It wasn't always about sneaking around recon style or annihilating stuff with our big battlecruiser. Our first brush with plasma weapons was watching some guy get vapourized a few feet away by an antitank gun. And there was the time we ran into a guy with heavy armour and we had to magdump our pistol into his face, cracking through the optics bit by bit. Presumably as the guy was writhing around screaming. These days we have the mantle of leadership weighing us down, all the soldiers and pilot's we've lost...

So yeah, Sonia's a piece of work all right. Just wait until we start looking for a husband
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>>36102050
>While you were out on the front lines you command a flee
>commanded
Mentioning this because it bothered me the last few threads.
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>>36105570
>A better question is, would you be prepared to sell production licenses for them?
>There are some serious considerations to take into account with production licenses
Now this is a tricky question. The black market will get their hands on these rifles eventually one way or another, but we can certainly control the initial distribution. Plus the people in the market for complex and expensive specialized weapons don't take kindly to thieves.

I think an Alliance production license is a given. The rifle was born to fight Neeran infantry and to have any appreciable effect on the greater war they will need hundreds of them. This would entail us building another factory or licensing the design to companies we trust under very strict guidelines. Weapons and parts in production must be tracked and defective components destroyed. Weapons and spare parts for alliance use will have a big "ALLIANCE PROPERTY" engraved into them and stiff penalties for anyone caught using them without good reason. For other factions we will have to look at them on a case by case basis. Our own factory on Surakeh should be enough to meet the needs of House forces and any allies houses who pick up the weapon.

Outside of faction armies I actually think the market would be fairly small, limited to special forces, high-tier merc group and the odd dominion noble who likes hunting with cool toys. If you just want to fight "people" and not giant power armoured giants there is a whole slew of much MUCH cheaper weapons that get the job done. Maintaining equipment this complicated is beyond the means of most organizations.
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>>From the wiki
>The first new ship class designed specifically to fight the Neeran, the AEC class made extensive use of technology recovered from the TCS Vieona.

Soooo, considering all that stuff would be with the Neerans now if Sonia hadn't recovered that ship, are the Terrans paying us royalities for the recovered technology?
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You know what bothers me about this Warlord? That we still delivered on our end of the deal. He complained about unfair treatment of his people and we started a huge-ass investigation that saw them getting a lot of recompense and solved the whole issue. Non of which would have happened without us.

Who cares, that someone in the chain of the investigation blabbed about whatever information they could nick? The whole point of this was not simply for them to *know* that there has been misconduct, they already knew that and only needed prove in order to do something about it. Which we did.

Additionally, I somehow doubt that he got the complete and unaltered data-set. Unless it was someone very high up in the investigation, they would probably not even have access to the whole set for security reasons. And even if they did, it is uncertain if one of the many factions who have interest in altering might have done so already.

So my argument is thus: Giving the data-set to the Warlord is only a formality, Sonia has already done the work requested of her and was the only one who did that. Trying to shirk payment on a formality, while possible, is absolutly not conductive for any professional relationships. Prove of good relations with Sonia being profitable: The discount currently enjoyed by the Rovinar. Secondly, Sonia still has the original, unaltered data-set. While neither of us knows for certain if his data has been altered or not, there is a reason Sonia didn't trust the Terrans with those data, for example.

I'm fine with some addtional payment on Sonia's side, she did wait an awfully long time to formally hand over the information, but it certainly shouldn't be higher in value than the Bounty on her head is.

I'd much prefer to just give him a couple million and get this over with. He's a dick und a terrible business partner.
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>>36116209
>>I'd much prefer to just give him a couple million and get this over with. He's a dick und a terrible business partner.

Agreed. This guy is just terrible.
>Steals the idea for the Reynard Accelerator
>We solve his problem and he doesn't fell like returning the favor at all

See what it takes to get that bounty removed by paying him. If it's reasonable just give him the money and then never deal with him again.
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>>36116209
>>36116713
>That we still delivered on our end of the deal.

Yes and No. The Warlord was looking for proof that one House/group was involved, so that he could (presumably) use the info for every last bit that it was worth. He'd then gain greatly in the SRL standings, both in prestige and whatever damages he strangled out of the House in question. Hopefully, it would have stopped other Houses doing the same.

Instead, we got a wide-ranging swath of data, turned it over to Winifred, and Winifred used it to improve J-D's standing while (presumably) making the source into some sort of phantom so that we didn't end up like that frozen Kharbos guy that Ber'helum wanted as a head on a pike.

Did we technically solve the problem the Warlord used to hook us into involvement? Yes.

Can we claim credit for it due to the path taken? No.

We sort of cut his plan at the knees and took most of the direct benefits from him, along with the likelihood of the Royal House splitting the reparations among the Warlords (or ones they favored) rather than this guy in particular.

I don't think he's even been given the information, as Winifred scrubbed our allies from it before dropping it for the scandal.

The information is worthless, unless we're going to give him the raw information (I don't recall if we kept a backup, and it would be a stupid move to hurt J-D and allies)

>>36115895
Why would we get royalties for Vieona? At best, we should have been able to claim something akin to a modern marine 'pure' salvage, which would be a reward of (roughly) 10-25% of Vieona's value (including cargo), split among the entire rescue group (J-D forces, FA crew with us).
Which I think we got, though a minimal amount. They probably argued we had a duty to act and said we damaged stuff.

But I recall calling dibs on the movie rights. We should find out when we can start pitching that, and possibly the Neeran city ship crazy event.
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>>36117918
>Why would we get royalties for Vieona?

I think the Krath we had with us suggested simply killing everybody on board who had already left stasis and then to split the loot.

I think the Terrans are very aware we could have just as well tried to run off with that ship. Maybe we would have succeeded with it too.
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>>36118040

The Krath (and his Terran 2nd) with us both insisted upon reviving the surviving crew. He was interested in the V-torp radiation solution, though. Even so far as to threaten that one doctor with krath brain rape.

If there hadn't been the other ship and we had a sleeper ship without any crew, we could have tried to steal Vieona, sure.
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>especially since a certain best friend of ours might get recruited by the Navigator's Guild.
Linda got recruited to the Navigator's Guild. Or took a job specifically to look for certain anomalies that may include wormholes.

>>36114697
>TSTG, in terms of Alliance R&D projects, is the list on the wiki up to date with everything available for us to focus on?
Probably not. No. I only finished some reorganization work on my files for it on monday. Will work on updating them, though I suspect I'll need to figure out how to convert my files to html to get them on the wiki.

>What happened to those Shallan shipyards we recovered from behind the lines and invested in?
Good question. Doing some research you find that the basic frames you recovered were eventually finished and are producing ships for the Shallan government.
I'll have to look up how much you guys invested in it unless anyone can find it first.

>And TCS Loreto, I guess. Wonder how our AI friends are doing.
Loreto survived it's latest engagement, barely. Versa calculates that unless something changes the ship will eventually be destroyed fighting the Neeran. The slow down in operations will increase the odds of survival in the short to mid term.
The newer ACC's that are under construction have much better odds as they're support ships, Loreto however is more of a fire support ship.

The AI Mic will be transferred to one of the new stations in the pandora cluster once they're built.

>>36114656
>But what would the impact on our standing in the House / Dominion / FA be if we went down this route?
House/ Dominion it wouldn't really gain you much in the short term. Long term you might return with information to set up distant colonies or find resources. Something the Alliance may not be happy about.

You could advance up the ranks of the Explorer Corps and as you're already an experienced fleet commander it might not take as long. Resources would be more limited due to the war.
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>>36119249
>Loreto survived it's latest engagement, barely. Versa calculates that unless something changes the ship will eventually be destroyed fighting the Neeran.

So... do we have to sponsor an emergency teleporter for Versa's mainframe? Or is there already one in place?
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>>36114708
>>36114656
>It'd also mean that we couldn't really do much with RSS, right?
You could set out some guidelines for expansion of the company.

>"This" is why we see Winifred always working.
Or drinking, but the 2 are not mutually exclusive.

>>36115508
Thank you.

>>36115598
>I think an Alliance production license is a given. The rifle was born to fight Neeran infantry and to have any appreciable effect on the greater war they will need hundreds of them. This would entail us building another factory or licensing the design to companies we trust under very strict guidelines. Weapons and parts in production must be tracked and defective components destroyed.
Did you guys want to establish a factory in the Pandora cluster, perhaps aboard or near one of the new Alliance stations that would produce guns just for them?

>Weapons and spare parts for alliance use will have a big "ALLIANCE PROPERTY" engraved into them and stiff penalties for anyone caught using them without good reason.
I'm reminded of a scene from Duskwood Hearts (set in Dark Heresy) were a merchant shows one of the players a contraband Space Marine bolter shell and then informed them of how many thousand thrones just that one shell would cost them.

>>36118113
>>36118040
>>36117918
>>36115895
>considering all that stuff would be with the Neerans now if Sonia hadn't recovered that ship
Implying that 50 special forces teams wouldn't have been trying to recover it. Odds are good that it would not have made it to the Pandora cluster let alone Shallan Space. You sped things up and got some invaluable equipment and supplies out of it for yourself. Things you can't buy.

>Alliance R&D project added: Veckron radiation immunity
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>>36119348
>So... do we have to sponsor an emergency teleporter for Versa's mainframe? Or is there already one in place?
They've been unable to fit teleport capsules to the processor rooms due to the number of hardline connections to the rest of the ship. Newer smaller capsules are being worked on that could probably fit sections of Versa's processors. They're not available just yet. It will be another couple of years before they enter mass production.
It's that or wait until the ship is undergoing a major overhaul to gut the C&C systems.

>>36116209
>>36116713
>See what it takes to get that bounty removed by paying him. If it's reasonable just give him the money and then never deal with him again.

"Removing a bounty is a difficult process as you are no doubt aware. A greater than two to one ratio is not unreasonable when it comes to stamping out the source. More once factoring in how cold the trail has gone.
It will cost you 65 million."
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>>36119249
>Shallan shipyards

This is the last I can find on them on a sup/tg/ archive. Neeran War 3rd Tour, #5

>More people would like to offer a business deal to partially fund shipyard start up with Shallan government. (This would be through RSS since you don't keep that much cash in your wallet.)
The majority want to set up the yards in the same system as DHI's corvette yard.

I can't find any numbers on it, though.
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>>36120081

>$65 million

Isn't our bounty only 1 or 2 million? Is he throwing a super heavy cruiser in with that bill?
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>Versa
Well, that sucks. Can we pull some strings with the FA to get the Loreto posted to wherever Sonia is going to end up?

>It will cost you 65 million.
Wut? Yeah, thanks but no thanks.

>>36120131
8 million, I think.
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What location posting would get us an AI research option TSTG?
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>>36120081
We should call up the prices for some elite bodyguarding merc service and quote them. It won't be cheap but 65 million is absurd.
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>>36116713
>Steals the idea for the Reynard Accelerator
Would anyone else have built it?

>>36120131
>Isn't our bounty only 1 or 2 million?
It actually went up quite a bit when Marson Edect was after you. Perhaps the funds for it are in a high interest savings account?
If only the bounty was removed when he died the next of kin would get quite a bit of money.

It went up again a short time after Vieona so the Neeran probably added to it.

I don't seem to have an exact number. For some reason I had the idea that it had grown past 10 million at the very least. Could have sword I posted a number but I guess not.

>>36120372
>What location posting would get us an AI research option TSTG?
Centri cluster would be the best bet.

>>36120085
>This is the last I can find on them on a sup/tg/ archive. Neeran War 3rd Tour, #5
>More people would like to offer a business deal to partially fund shipyard start up with Shallan government.
>The majority want to set up the yards in the same system as DHI's corvette yard.
Thank you for bringing this up. It never got added to company deductions or the wiki.

Wiki now edited. RSS owns 10% of each of the two shipyards.
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>>36120081
Now, I would be willing to shell out 65 Million (before haggling) in order to be free from any bounties. The thing is: The current deal seems to be little more than a stop-gap measure. What's to stop the next person to just put out another bounty?

What I would pay for would be him dealing with the current bounty AND with any new bounty that comes up in x time. If he is lucky, no one else will dare put another bounty out after the first one has been dealt with. Especially, if a Warlord acts as our patron in this case. Also, if the current deal is so costly because of how cold the trail is, then his people dealing with it immediately will be far easier and cheaper.

I hope this would sort of put us on a white list of people on whom no bounties will be placed in Warlord controlled territories.
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>>36120705
>Would anyone else have built it?
They could at least have kept the name.

>Perhaps the funds for it are in a high interest savings account?
So it just keeps growing but even if we paid to have it removed the Neeran could always just post a new one.

That's pretty annoying.
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>What I would pay for would be him dealing with the current bounty AND with any new bounty that comes up in x time. If he is lucky, no one else will dare put another bounty out after the first one has been dealt with. Especially, if a Warlord acts as our patron in this case.
This is not an unreasonable demand. Ask for it?

>>36120834
Taking to a few of your friends about this Alex has an idea that you may or may not like.
"Get someone to turn you in for the bounty."

"Are you serious?"

"Yes. Do something like you did on Dreminth when those guys tried to kidnap you. You mentioned your armor also has a few upgrades now right?"
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>>36121099
>"Get someone to turn you in for the bounty."

Why not turn in Krath Sonia? It would be even more hilarious.
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>>36121099

Is there even info on where/how to claim the bounty?
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>>36121099
>This is not an unreasonable demand. Ask for it?
Yeah. Otherwise I'm not even considering this deal.

>Turn yourself in
That's really risky and will take a lot of time to prepare and pull off. Also, it will still cost money and favours to find those who placed the bounty and have enough back-up to pull this off. And we would need to do it for each bounty that is placed on us.

I'm not opposed to it per se, but I don't think it's worth it.
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>>36121159
that would be funny
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>>36120705

Looked up the last given bounty $$
Neeran War 2nd Tour, #10

suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/31043321/#p31062669

"That's the one that blew up the cargo decks on the John Avery!"

You may have a problem. That optic sensor must be able to see through your faceplate.

"There's still a black market bounty of 1.5 million on her."


>1.5 million

It couldn't have grown that much in less than 18 months, could it?
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So editing the R&D section of the wiki is apparently canceled for today Or forever unless anyone can figure out how to insert a table or other form of sorting developmetn because I'm getting nowhere with it.
I'll just have to post pictures of my spreadsheets or something.


R&D project suggestions that deserve comment.

>Supercharged phase cannons.
Those are twin linked or quad linked. Still I guess there may be other methods to pull that off.

>Take the singularity tech developed from the FTL interdiction and try turn it into a power generation system
This would require a joint research project with the Alliance to get anywhere in your lifetime.

>Also high-yield conventional explosives for earthquake bombs (to replace nuclear and orbital bombardment).
These are available though the HAG don't really need them. Those or Kinetic missiles usually do enough damage to fixed surface targets. If you request earthquake bombs before an operation they'll be made available. Would you like some added to the inventory of larger fleets should you command them?

>>36122003
It appears I was wrong and/or misremembered. I don't know why I thought it was so much higher.

>>36121357
>Is there even info on where/how to claim the bounty?
It would be through one of the private bounty networks. They're considerably less common these days and your best bet would be to place a call from a location inside SRL space or poorly policed areas of the Pandora Cluster.
After providing proof of capture to whoever the contact representative is a drop off location will be provided. The target is exchanged with the money held in escrow by a third party, usually one of the larger guilds.
Money is released once the recipient of the target is safely away.
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>>36122059
>insert table

It seems like they broke and disabled them with the transition to the visual editor. Can't even seem to copy/paste on in.

>bounty

Does this change the asking price?
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>>36122059
Well, that's annoying
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Most votes for postings seem to be falling into 2 categories.

3 front runners for the armor company name.

Things you'd like to look after during the time skip.

>Stay In The Fight, Cowards! (Dominion War Participation)
Propaganda film? If anyone is working on similar productions would you like to contribute funding towards one of those?

>Dueling practice with sword and guns
>Get some sim time for recon skulking, sword fighting and ballet. Gotta keep those skills sharp.
I doubt there will be any arguments there.

>horticulture so when we retire to the lodge we can attempt to maintain a small patch of garden.
Opinions?

>Dueling is a must, as well as getting some etiquette training so that we can start making political inroads. As well, I would like us to host a ball celebrating our various accomplishments under the guise of cheering our allies.
Hosting a ball. Well then. Would that be in the homeworlds or in South Reach? It may be difficult for you to do so in the homeworlds without getting in the way of someone else's plans. Then again if you plan sufficiently far ahead of time and it should not be an issue.
Do so?

>>36122298
>It seems like they broke and disabled them with the transition to the visual editor. Can't even seem to copy/paste on in.
Glad its not just me. Not so happy that it's screwed over.

>bounty
>Does this change the asking price?
I'll drop it to 40 million.
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>>36122507
>Hosting a ball. Well then. Would that be in the homeworlds or in South Reach?

Why not right where we are now with all our FA allies still present?
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>>36122507

>40 million to remove 1.5+ interest

I'm tempted to laugh in his face, then drop $20 mil on the bounty source. If it escalates high enough, we look into the possibility that a Warlord is posting it, and conduct a sting operation. We've got enough Rovinar favor that we could probably get the services of a cloaked ship capable of jamming while we seized the bounty ship with a squad of recon PA.

Or just locate someone with the means to trace the accounts offering the bounty and deal with it like the Triads or in a more bloody method.

>hosting a ball
It seems a little odd to hold a ball when you don't own a place.

>table samefag

It seems that by dropping in an existing table's source code I can once again screw with tables.

Something to Doing?
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>>36122868
That 40 million would protect against additional bounties.

>>36122570
"Alex, Daska, Verilis, Arthur, I need your help."
"With what?" Asks Verilis.
"Are we doing the bounty thing?" Wonders Alex.

"I want to host a ball."

"I'm sorry, what?" Replies Daska looking a little stunned.

"Do you not understand the words coming out of my mouth?" You respond.

"She understood." Arthur grins at the whole situation. "They just didn't make any sense with you being the one saying them Sir."

"I want to host a ball, a celebration of sorts, while all our FA allies still present. We drove out the Neeran and the Rovinar destroyed their stargate. People deserve a party after that."

Finding an appropriate venue will be difficult. The PCCG is not known for its high class social events. Colonel Firth seems like he'd be able to find a place classy enough.

Do you guys want to rent a place in this dwarf galaxy? It would not be be held at the shipyard, it wouldn't be able to look after many guests.
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>>36122952
If Colonel Firth knows a nice place in this Dwarf galaxy I think it would be okay unless he knows of a better venue.

Also I think the 40 million would be perfectly fine if that means we have a warlord making sure to "sweep away" any bounties on us.
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>>36122952
We need a traveling leisure ship, gods damn it. We will be the classiest space pirate General ever!

But yes, renting a place might be a good idea. It's never a bad thing to show off that we're filthy fucking RICH BITCHES. This is how nobility works, yo.

Also, it's extremely poor taste to challenge your host to a duel.
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>>36122952
>Do you guys want to rent a place in this dwarf galaxy? It would not be be held at the shipyard, it wouldn't be able to look after many guests.

It was my suggestion, so I won't vote. We'll need some really decent security if we go through with this, however.

>"Do you not understand the words coming out of my mouth?" You respond.

Sonia, please stop being mean to Daska. (I was tempted to say lil' Daska, are Dro'all shorter than Humans?)
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>>36122952
Sure ask firth. And personally, I find the image of use stunning Daska funny. Incidentally, shouldn't she do that sex changing thing at some point? I think she's been female the entire time we've known her
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>>36122952
"Gotta get political if I want to move up. And if I move up that means there's a new position for you, Daska"

How much would it cost and how quick could we get a place custom built for it?
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>>36123163
>We need a traveling leisure ship, gods damn it.
They have those, some better than others. Most operate as cruise liners. You've been aboard liners the size of Battlecruisers and smaller mediums before but not any geared exclusively for just the upper level nobility. They probably exist in some parts of Dominion and Terran space.

>>36123182
>Sonia, please stop being mean to Daska.
Sorry I was channeling Jackie Chan.

>>36123347
>Incidentally, shouldn't she do that sex changing thing at some point? I think she's been female the entire time we've known her
She's a noble that means it takes longer, but yes you're right.

>>36123371
"Gotta get political if I want to move up. And if I move up that means there's a new position for you, Daska" You joke.
"That is... definitely one way of seeing it sir." she admits.

All of you begin to make some calls and within 2 days have reserved a large enough hall and begin to send out invitations. The hall is a cargo bay that's been repurposed but with the help of a few other nobles who are stuck here before they can return home things begin to come together. Basic cargo bay flooring is covered over with a mix of false marble in some areas and carpeting in others. A number of ornate chandeliers are brought in and Holographic projectors cover the walls and ceiling with filigree.
Not bad given how quickly everything has been rushed together.
Your more experienced Knights take care of things like music and catering that might otherwise result in complications.

Colonel Firth arranges additional security and make sure everyone is vetted properly. Some of your marines will be providing assistance to them.
At the last minute some intel and security from the Ruling House insist that they be allowed to check that everything is in order. Only once they've each been checked themselves are they allowed to do so.

It's a little paranoia inducing having them here.
>Additional checks you want made on them?
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>>36124054
>At the last minute some intel and security from the Ruling House insist that they be allowed to check that everything is in order.
Let them. Ruling house were cool iirc.

Scan people for implants like that assassin had. The acid capsule. That's a dead giveaway of nefarious intent.
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>>36124054
can't think of anything
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>>36124054

Sounds like we need to have a word with the ranking Ruling House Intel spook. Why the sudden involvement? Did we invite someone from Lat'tham by mistake? Did we not invite enough Ruling House folks? Will there be a Royal Guard Captain in full power armor?

Who are they here to kill, and what casualties are acceptable?
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>>36124054
>>Additional checks you want made on them?
If J-D intel, Firth, RSS intel, and our nobles didn't find anything then I doubt there's anything Sonia can do.

Of course, we could just ask them why they decided to show up.
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>>36124054
Can we detect clones?
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>>36124054
>Ruling House insist that they be allowed to check that everything is in order.

Oh...Oh dear. While I can't think of anything to impede them maybe some background checks and meeting the people in person would be in order? If they are here that most likely means we will be getting a visit from some people from the Ruling house....and with what has been going on as well as such things as us being recognized by someone in said ruling house....
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>>36124123
Scanners are installed at the entrances to check for potential assassins.

One of your people, you don't know who, hangs a hand painted sign nearby that says "No assassination attempts for the duration of this party please."

>>36124460
You can add that to the list of things being checked for. It would hardly be that unusual for there to be the occasional one.

>>36124323
>>36124179
"So who are you here to kill, and what casualties are acceptable?"
"What?! No, we're not here to kill anyone." The very slight Dro'all woman exclaims.

>Why the sudden involvement?
"We noticed that a number of important people from several Houses along with other Factions were going to be present. it would be better not to have an incident."

It seems the invitations were sent to more people than just those you know. Your Knights also sent some, and then not to be impolite some were sent to a few of their superiors.
It's a good thing you rented a large hall because there are going to be plenty of people present.

>Did we invite someone from Lat'tham by mistake?
No, doesn't look like it.

>Did we not invite enough Ruling House folks?
You could have invited more, but that can be overlooked.
>Will there be a Royal Guard Captain in full power armor?
No. If your troops cant handle problems on deck then there are bigger issues.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANpLVXyerxU

Guests from several Factions arrive along with a good number of nobles looking for a break after having arrived from Shallan space. Some arrive more formally dressed than others, most career officers and Nobles are in dress uniforms. Some of the private ship captains and mercenaries wear uniforms they've picked up while fighting for the Alliance while others have merely had their duty uniforms cleaned up for the occasion.

Close enough.

An hour into the arrivals and there have been no incidents between guests and no challenges to duels.

Is there a speech of any kind you'd like to make?
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>>36124701
I'm not good with writing speeches but I think we should:
a) encourage all present houses to stay committed to the war effort
b) encourage all present houses to not causes a schism with the ruling house.
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>>36124701
>One of your people, you don't know who, hangs a hand painted sign nearby that says "No assassination attempts for the duration of this party please."
I find this funny
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>>36124691

Well, we should definitely make a thing out of thanking the houses for committing to the war effort, and brag a little about our recent victory not just blunting but completely stopping the Neeran attack.

Then we can segue into how we have now siezed the initiative, which is a huge advantage in war, and can now go on the attack to continue dictating the pace of it. Toss in the fact that it will be easier to assault them now before they can build up their defense, of an area whose occupation wasn't even one of their main goals, and the opportunity for rich rewards to come to the liberators. Not sure how heavy to play the loot angle, with the FA about.

I think talking about the potential for a schism would be folly, but we should definitely hammer in the fact that the Dominion is the strongest faction when united, that we are kept sharp by our constant jockeying for position (phrased as healthy competition rewarding strength, innovation, and ambition - all concepts promoting active involvement in the war) and point out once again that our ability to work together for mutual benefit has won us this much, and can carry us much further.
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>>36124834
Oh, also thank all houses for their current efforts and the nobles for attending on such short notice.
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>>36124952
I'm not sure we should talk too much about the potential schism brewing in the Dominion when there are people from several Factions about.

Maybe just a toast to the fallen and their memory? Keep any 'stay in the fight' talk limited to personal conversations?
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>>36124701
>One of your people, you don't know who, hangs a hand painted sign nearby that says "No assassination attempts for the duration of this party please."

Hah, I like this person.

>You can add that to the list of things being checked for. It would hardly be that unusual for there to be the occasional one.

I don't think we need to. I would consider it bad form, to be honest.

>Is there a speech of any kind you'd like to make?

Thank everybody for following our invitation, remember the fallen, congratulate the people who survived, thank them for their service and for making it possible to beat back the Neeran fleet so quickly.

Keep it short, people will most likely want to celebrate and forget the war for this evening.

I think we should keep Dominion politics out of the speech if possible.
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>>36125164
Agreed, I think thanking the Houses for their commitment to the war effort and bragging about our recent victory will get the subtle message across, we don't need to address it directly.

Maybe also a very slight dog at the Terrans, in good humour of course...
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The dress uniforms! I forgot!

Are you wearing your House / Dominion dress uniform or your Alliance dress uniform?
This may affect the message you're trying to send.
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>>36124701
I'm not good with speeches but something along the lines of.

It has been [Insert amount of time since the Neeran showed up this time] and now it seems we finally have some room to breath. What has been needed to get us this room has been staggering, the cost in comrades, friends, and family even more so. So for this time we should celebrate both for our good fortune to have survived and for those who won't be able to join us on this day. But we should also celebrate the Alliance for if not for us banding together to face this threat today may have been a very different day because United we stand, Divided we Fall. So I propose a toast. To the Alliance!"

Or something along those lines. Mostly to get across that we are lucky to be here and it was only by banding together that we were able to halt the threat of the invaders and that everyone working together is the key to our victory (A soft jab at people wanting to pull their forces out), but that was the idea that came to my mind.
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>>36125164
More like instead of telling people to support the ruling house, instead doing more of a "we the people" thing combined with "united we stand, divided we fall" angle. Jacking off about how strong the Dominion is because of its fractious nature that inspires competition, and how the rest of the universe trembles when that energy and strength is turned on a single enemy - none can stand before our powers combined!

I mean, that's the party line for the whole pseudo-feudal system we have going on there, that the cream will rise. So all we have to do is imply that if people DON'T rise to the situation, maybe they're not actually the cream but just some scum that bubbled up by mistake and will soon fall back down again.

Essentially, we want to paint a positive picture by saying THESE! are the virtues of the Dominion and it's nobles, these are it's strengths, and let the implication that any who aren't living up to it are neither virtuous or strong just kind of sit unsaid in the background.

That way nobody can call us foolhardy or reckless and advocate caution, because we aren't praising that, we're praising the successes we've had and the strategy we've been using, which is successful because it's what we base the dominion on. If they question it then, they're also questioning the very basis they have for their own system of rule.
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>>36125354
Dominion dress uniform. We came here on our leave, as part of an emergency rescue force, and part of this is to drum up support for the FA but also to build our political capital back home.

This war will end one way or another, and investing in the FA is something that is only a short term (like, engagement by engagement) or a very long term (as in years) goal, and I just don't see it being a priority.

Especially when we can play The Dominion Saves the Day, courtesy of Sonia Reynard.
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>>36125354
>Are you wearing your House / Dominion dress uniform or your Alliance dress uniform?

Alliance. This celebration is for everybody, not some Dominion thing.

>>36125302
>Maybe also a very slight dog at the Terrans, in good humour of course...

I don't think a good host should do something like that. Terran media might be annoying but their military fought as hard as everybody else.
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>>36125354
If it was a heavily Dominion affair...I'd say that uniform, but given that we've invited a bunch if FA people, and that our speech is extolling the benefits of jointly fighting the Neeran (if focusing more on the Dominion's contribution). It'd probably be best to wear our alliance uniform.

Does brevet rank come with pins...?
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>>36125354
Dominion dress uniform
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>>36125354
Alliance dress uniform.

I wonder if that Unnamed(?) Dominion [Knight?] from our first Pandora deployment has survived long enough to attend. The one that swore they'd see the Neeran homeworlds destroyed over the death of their unit commander.
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>>36125354
I think Alliance dress uniform would be good.

We should really get a pin or something with our house's symbol on it or something like that to signify where we are from.

For the speech it should be more "Alliance" flavored than "Dominion" flavored if that makes sense? We can put on our "Dominion" cap once we start talking to people. Most likely start with the high ranking people and work our way down the list.
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Quick question.

We have teleporters on our ships, but why don't we use them to teleport torpedoes into/near/behind enemy ships?
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>>36113505
>>timeskip
>Dro'all wiki page
> Average lifespan is 65 years

Anything we can do to extend that? I'd like to keep Kavos & partner around a bit longer, is there anything we can do? It's probably one of the more satisfying projects we could throw money at.

If Dro'all are the main species of the Dominion, there should be a lot of medical research going on to keep them healthy and active for longer.
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>>36125667
Considering the option to fortify the border, we could try to pull a new move on the Neeran.

We could have more raid units fuck up their logistics trains to their supply and then have the alliance fortify right on top of them, dropping asteroid forts and such right over their unfinished fortifications as they scramble to deal with us raiders. then we pull back and smile behind a double fortified line, that is all alliance and the Neeran are left with nothing except their fleets.

>>36125354
For uniforms we can have them both during the party. Although i don't know how to best phrase it, since with the House uniform its a JD Dominion Knight, and with the Alliance its a Alliance officer...
And current alliance strategic policy is fortification not offensive operations.
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"Most of the guests are here." you're informed.

"Then it sounds like I'd better make some sort of speech or announcement. I swear if I end up standing on a broken old packing crate."
Good there's a small podium. You planned that far ahead.

Getting up in front of the crowd you ask for everyone's attention and soon things have quieted down. With people from different Factions present it seem to have been a better choice to wear your Alliance uniform. People form the Dominion might take issue with it a bit but worst case scenario they think you're a Terran officer.

Firstly you thank everyone for answering the invitations and attending on such short notice regardless of what Faction or House they may be from.

"It has been less than 3 years since the Neeran invaded and now it seems we finally have some room to breath. What has been needed to get us this room has been staggering, the cost in comrades, friends, and family even more so.

Although we have lost much we are stronger than we were at the start of this war, because we have proven we can stand united as an Alliance of the Factions against any threat. We have seen that without that unity we may fall one by one.
Together we not only blunted but completely stopped the Neeran attack on the Pandora cluster. Since that moment we have seized the initiative which gives us a huge advantage. One we could even use against them before they can build up their defenses, something that wasn't even part of the enemy's goals.
But that is for another day.

For this time we should celebrate both for our good fortune to have survived and for those who won't be able to join us on this day.
I propose a toast. To the fallen, to the survivors, and to the Alliance for giving us this chance to work together."

I hope this was acceptable ?
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>>36126158
>I hope this was acceptable ?
That was good, especially when most of us came up with nothing beyond a few vague suggestions.
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>>36126158
Would've liked a bit more emphasis on the contributions of the Dominion, but overall, good speech. Something that everyone present could clap to honestly rather than just politely.
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>>36126158
10/10

Would hire you to write my speech.
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>>36126047
>Anything we can do to extend that? I'd like to keep Kavos & partner around a bit longer, is there anything we can do? It's probably one of the more satisfying projects we could throw money at.
>If Dro'all are the main species of the Dominion, there should be a lot of medical research going on to keep them healthy and active for longer.
Oh there is. A lot of the results for people wanting to live longer boil to being born into a noble family or descended from one. Their biological cycle takes longer and thus they live much longer. Longer than Humans on average if it wasn't for all of the assassination attempts. True Nobles also cant have kids as often as commoners.

A Commoners best bet is hormone therapy to delay their cycles.


>>36126001
>We have teleporters on our ships, but why don't we use them to teleport torpedoes into/near/behind enemy ships?
Emergency teleporters are tricky. They have a lot of technical problems with them as the base technology they were developed from was lost more than a thousand years ago.

In order to teleport from one ship to another you need teleport receiver technology which has been in development for a very long time. Problems such as how to keep someone else from teleporting a nuke into your receiver platform has been the source of many delays.

It is currently estimated that in late 4029 or early 4030 some ships will begin fielding prototype receiver platforms with mass production expected to begin a year later. The Alliance has stated that they intend to purchase dedicated receiver ships which will be attached to each major fleet group.

Teleporters and their capsules are expensive. Requisition cost for them back in the Smugglers Run was higher than a lot of ships. You want to reuse them if at all possible.

Assuming you could reprogram the targeting system to aim for other ships the accuracy might be 1/30 if trying to hit a Neeran Super. It could work.
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>>36126680
>A Commoners best bet is hormone therapy to delay their cycles.
>live longer boil to being born into a noble family or descended from one

I wouldn't mind paying for that if they're okay with it. Or pay to some noble family to adopt the two if there's a chance for any positive effects.

>bishopsm.png
It always freaks me out how his tie and shirt disappear in the the 5th frame.
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>>36126158
>I hope this was acceptable ?
Clap clap clap
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>>36126901
Eh, we don't have the money for large scale social restructuring.
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>>36126680
>Dro'all stuff
Is that why the one Dro'all pilot in our wing was a bit delayed in being knighted, compared to say Daska? Or can Dro'all become 'noble' Dro'all sort of like they change questionably dangly bits?

>teleporter stuff

I've been meaning to push for an experiment where we capture something Neeran, bring it close to a fleet battle, and see what happens when we activate the emergency teleporters with timed nukes.

I highly suspect that their command ships have receiver pads for their capsules (possibly some supers, too), and they turn them on during major battles.

And a nuke may do jack squat against the outside of a ship... but a detonation inside the guts of it should be catastrophic.

This would need to be some kind of black op, though. Or a 'Shallan' op.
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>>36126158
Was that Kavarian from our House already knighted? If so, I'd like to see how they're doing so far.
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>Have Mr London quietly invest a certain percentage (20%?) of our profits in companies and projects from other factions. The investments should make at least some money but the more important thing is to gain a power base that will allow us to gain influence and leverage some pressure outside of the Dominion.
Is everyone okay with this or would you prefer to use the money to continue expansion of RSS? Some of your projects have a tendency to consume large amounts of money at a moment's notice.

>>36126901
>Or pay to some noble family to adopt
It's a genetic predisposition. I suppose gene therapy might help. It will require looking into individual cases.
Kavos will have to retire soon.

>his tie and shirt disappear in the the 5th frame.
Did not notice that until you pointed it out. I wonder if she fixed it for the book?


>>36127096
>Is that why the one Dro'all pilot in our wing was a bit delayed in being knighted, compared to say Daska?
Yes. It is harder for Dro'all born as commoners to become Knights and the like compared to those descended from noble families.

>Or can Dro'all become 'noble' Dro'all sort of like they change questionably dangly bits?
Getting a title and wealth does not tend to change ones parentage. Naturally longer lived nobles are preferable in Dominion society as it increases the chances of longer term stability.

>>36127125
>Was that Kavarian from our House already knighted?
Yes they've now been Knighted, there hasn't been time for everyone to return to the homeworld yet.
>If so, I'd like to see how they're doing so far.
Still learning many things but picking it up fast. Attracting some less positive reactions from a few other nobles they've encountered.
Some of the Knights within your Attack Wings are still getting used to the idea of a Kavarian as a Knight but they know better than to say anything, especially with so many of them having come from diverse backgrounds within the House.
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>>36127321
I would say 10% in investment as I would like to expand RSS as much as possible to take advantage of the war.
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>>36127321
Did anyone from house Veritas show up? Simply because I kinda want to see what happens when they try to interact with Dominion nobles. Also, being rude to them in the middle of negotiations is probably a bad idea.
>Is everyone okay with this or would you prefer to use the money to continue expansion of RSS? Some of your projects have a tendency to consume large amounts of money at a moment's notice.
Eh, not really, I don't think it would be very useful.
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>>36127321
>Is everyone okay with this or would you prefer to use the money to continue expansion of RSS? Some of your projects have a tendency to consume large amounts of money at a moment's notice.

Like stocks? Cause that seems like a better idea to make the money grow rather than it just sitting in our accounts, collecting digital dust. I also think a nifty 10% instead of 20% is a better number. Don't want to risk to much.

Speaking of the new Knights, did we get proper teachers for them? Cause if not we should probably do that.
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>>36127321
>RSS investment

I'd rather see RSS start a foreign branch if we absolutely must invest in other factions.

When it all goes to hell (not if), an RSS branch/wing/division registered as a foreign company can pull a Coca-Cola and survive (possibly even thrive), and once the hostilities cease, rejoin the RSS family. (I believe it was ww2 that saw the German branch of Coca-Cola come up with Fanta, and after the war the company rejoined Coca-Cola proper, along with the profits it had made)

Investments into other Factions' companies will almost certainly be liquidated or seized 'for the war effort'.

Preferably, I'd rather just keep our current RSS funds liquid. We've made some major investments and done quite a number on the reserves for the time being.
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>>36127321
>It's a genetic predisposition. I suppose gene therapy might help. It will require looking into individual cases.
"Sir Reynard, your request is highly unusual and prohibitively expensive."
"You're argument is invalid, I fly a gigantic metal shark!"

>Kavos will have to retire soon.
That means we'll have to find another voice of reason to keep Sonia from getting killed. Hune sensei time?

>Some of the Knights within your Attack Wings are still getting used to the idea of a Kavarian as a Knight but they know better than to say anything,

Is this just the usual "We're just not used to it" sort of problem, or does a part of Dominion society have some sort of problem with Kavarians in general?

>Is everyone okay with this or would you prefer to use the money to continue expansion of RSS?

I think investing some money outside of the Dominion is a decent idea.
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>>36117918
>Why would we get royalties for Vieona?
I could be wrong but I think we had a conversation that went something like:

>Hey don't we get a salvage bonus for saving your ass?
>Yes you do, oh look it conveniently adds up to the cost of repairing the rampant property damage you caused.

On the other hand we DID lock down the movie rights for the Vieona recovery op! We should totally do something with those. Also we contracted with the alliance to share in any research data they recovered from that neeran we killed. That was back when neeran corpses were something of a rarity, did anything come of that?
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>>36127488
>Did anyone from house Veritas show up?
>I kinda want to see what happens when they try to interact with Dominion nobles.
Actually a few officers did, none that you've met before but their House had ships in the region so an invitation was sent. They don't have any Knights or nobles yet and are blending in by using the Alliance uniforms they've been issued while deployed. They're trying to hide in plan sight and generally get an idea of how best to interact while the other party is unaware they're talking with former terrorists.

One of the Ruling House intel people are keeping an eye on them.

>>36127493
>Like stocks?
It can be stocks.

>Speaking of the new Knights, did we get proper teachers for them? Cause if not we should probably do that.
Yes. After the initial upsurge in Knightings the attack wings have kept a number of people skilled in that department on hand. The social club meetings back home still help.

>I'd rather see RSS start a foreign branch if we absolutely must invest in other factions.
Maybe I should add that to a survey?

>>36127544
>That means we'll have to find another voice of reason to keep Sonia from getting killed. Hune sensei time?
Up to you guys. You could request an officer or NCO, ask Kavos for a suggestion or hire a merc.

>Is this just the usual "We're just not used to it" sort of problem, or does a part of Dominion society have some sort of problem with Kavarians in general?
Mostly the former as far as your people are concerned. Kavarians were second class citizens for a long time in the previous dynasty and were considered too untrustworthy to become members of the nobility. This only increased in the Faction Wars following the rebellion and Kavarian independence movements.


>>36117918
>But I recall calling dibs on the movie rights.
>>36127835
>On the other hand we DID lock down the movie rights for the Vieona recovery op

Want to ask if you can get the go ahead on this now that their AEC is in service?
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>>36127987
>Mostly the former as far as your people are concerned. Kavarians were second class citizens for a long time in the previous dynasty and were considered too untrustworthy to become members of the nobility.
Oh, so keeping them as a permanent 2nd class citizens was a better idea. Idiots, long term ridged social stratification prevents assimilation and always results in social unrest.
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>>36127987
>Treat Kavarians like second class citizens
>People are surprised they rebel
>Treat clones like second class citizens
>People are surprised they rebel
>Treat various locals like second class citizens
>People are surprised they rebel

How did these people manage to build an empire that lasted long enough to cover multiple galaxies in the first place?
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>>36127096
>Neeran corpse nuke teleport
This is an idea I think we should look into.
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>>36127987
>Want to ask if you can get the go ahead on this now that their AEC is in service?

Weren't we supposed to get that Neeran's power armor after the FA was done testing it as well?
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>>36128113
You only hear about it when something goes wrong. The rest of the time there's nothing to hear about.

>>36128188
>Weren't we supposed to get that Neeran's power armor after the FA was done testing it as well?
Yes. You have access to it. Advances due to analysis of the suit have resulted in an overall increase to power armor development. Some next generation suits will be able to bleed off more heat from weapons fire impacts into any surface they're currently in contact with. This should reduce damage and injury cause by hand held Neeran plasma weapons.

Eventually they may be able to use the induction systems to direct waste heat into objects that are farther away, or into purpose built weapons.
Some of the materials used in the armor could be of use to the medical glove/exoskeleton program. Would you like to have it diverted to that program or did you have another use in mind?

>And make sure Bekka and her friends gets deployed somewhere nice and not particularly dangerous if they decide to join the military
Like where, the home fleet? South Reach? one of the other far flung locations?
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>>36128803
I'd personally prefer south reach
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>>36128803
I'd rather leverage the Neeran PA to secure next gen PA (possibly the 2nd gen?) for ourselves and close allies, or see what the Power Cell Armor program could do with/give us for it.

Then again, I personally find the medical glove/exo program to be impractical (especially considering the Dominion view on lives)
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>>36128803
Bekka is not joining the good for nothing home fleet with the rest of the nobles who don't want to actually fight. She will probably kick our ass if we tried it since she seems to have a genuine wish to join the navy. Best would be if we got her deployed under Winifred. She is a good commander who does not do as much crazy stuff as we do and we can probably count on her to take a little care of Bekka.

Taking her ourselves would be a bad idea for several reasons but I think people already realize that. The idea of sending her into potential death ourselves also makes me feel uncomfortable. So yeah my vote would go for Bekka under Winifred.

>Would you like to have it diverted to that program or did you have another use in mind?
I'd prefer better power armor over the Medical glove/Exoskeleton. The portable stasis tech is better for combat medics anyways.
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>>36127987
>Up to you guys. You could request an officer or NCO, ask Kavos for a suggestion or hire a merc.
Personally, I'm hoping for a cute naive shallen girl.
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>>36119777
>Did you guys want to establish a factory in the Pandora cluster, perhaps aboard or near one of the new Alliance stations that would produce guns just for them?
Nearby a station but not directly on it would be ideal. We can hand the stuff over to them directly and the separation would make supply and security easier for the factory.

>I'm reminded of a scene from Duskwood Hearts (set in Dark Heresy) were a merchant shows one of the players a contraband Space Marine bolter shell and then informed them of how many thousand thrones just that one shell would cost them.
I vaguely remember a scene in another book where a marine comes across some tribals. They tell him a big battle happened decades ago where "angels fell from the sky" (aka a drop pod assaultd) and they recovered some unfired bolter shells from the field after the marines left and put them in their shrine as holy relics. So he takes out HIS bolter and fires a round into a tree, cutting it down in a single shot. They all cream their pants with faith in the emperor and give him the other shells.

In terms of keeping the parts out of the black market it should be relatively easy compared to other weapons. There are really only 3 unique parts in the rifle, the firmware/circuits, the barrel and the breech. Everything else is either a simple sheet metal fabrication job or parts already in use with other weapons because we tried to maximize parts commonality. In order to assemble a full gun or repair a damaged one you need a full set of parts and some master-level armouring skills.

I think we could put a line in the contract about offering a bounty for salvaged mass rifle parts. The bounty is still less expensive than buying new and it keeps stuff off the black market. One the war is over recovered parts can be marked as "legally salvaged" if you report them to the alliance and you won't get into trouble for having them. Until then it's considered critical war materials.
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>>36129033
Or just rely on the rifle being extremely expensive to deter would be criminals.
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>>36128927
>I'd rather leverage the Neeran PA to secure next gen PA (possibly the 2nd gen?) for ourselves and close allies, or see what the Power Cell Armor program could do with/give us for it.
>>36128977
>I'd prefer better power armor over the Medical glove/Exoskeleton.

The answer to both of these is not much. The induction technology has been copied and is in R&D. If you gave it back to them it wouldn't affect additional R&D efforts much in that direction.
I suppose you could have the suit stripped of the system components and integrate them into a suit of faction power armor since they're still better than what is available. It would only be useful for covering the exterior of 1 Medium or 1 Heavy suit of power armor though.

I suppose a suit of power cell armor (which counts as medium) could be equipped with it as well and use some of the impact energy to recharge its batteries. This has the potential to overwhelm the power systems however.
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>>36129242
Well then there is no reason not to turn it over to the medical glove/exoskeleton program I'd say. That seems much more valuable than a potential deathtrap suit of power armor.
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>>36122059
>These are available though the HAG don't really need them. Those or Kinetic missiles usually do enough damage to fixed surface targets. If you request earthquake bombs before an operation they'll be made available. Would you like some added to the inventory of larger fleets should you command them?
Couldn't hurt. We have plenty of options for destroying things from orbit, it's those other times where these will come in handy.

I've been doing a little research on WW2 ground attack tactics and one thing that came up is "skip bombing". The way this works is that you set a time delay fuse and drop stuff at high speed at a shallow angle. It works just like skipping stones across a pond, you get a few bounces and significant linear travel before detonation. I've actually done this in War Thunder to destroy ships and stuff. 406mm shells can also skip like this too, in WW2 shells skipping was considered undesirable because they would bounce up and hit above the water line and make it harder to sink the ship.

If starfighters can fly under the edges of planetary shields then I don't see why you couldn't skip a few earthquake bombs under it. If the shields extend all the way to the ground you could even drop them into the ground at an angle and have them ricochet off the bedrock and come back up under the shield projectors/LST/neeran supertank and destroy them or flip them over. Man if we could get video footage of that it would make for a hell of a sales pitch.
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>>36129242
Do we at least get access to a FA next gen PA or upgrade kits?

I guess having the actual Neeran PA from TCS Vieona is like having a solid gold trophy.
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>>36129373
Or convince people that they don't need HAGs, since that's not at all what they are designed to do.
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>>36129373
>If starfighters can fly under the edges of planetary shields then I don't see why you couldn't skip a few earthquake bombs under it.
Because starfighters can decelerate using repulsors to a low enough speed to get through more easily, then kick in their engines again. Most of the times you've sent fighters under planetary shields they've flown for dozens if not hundreds of kilometers to their targets after getting beneath it.

If you're talking about skipping it under the shields of a large tank that could be different but again that would work best at low velocity.

>>36129444
>Do we at least get access to a FA next gen PA or upgrade kits?
Yes because your House has people contributing to the project in addition to providing resources.

>I guess having the actual Neeran PA from TCS Vieona is like having a solid gold trophy.
True, you could certainly add it to your trophy room.
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>Major upgrades to the hotel/bunker on Tourta that we bought and forgot about. It has considerable potential for high class business meetings and/or personal retreat.
It was finished and did get some upgrades in the eprocess. It's being managed well enough and does get business from a few rich Shallan refugees and some CEO's from the Pandora cluster that decided it might be time to relocate.
Which reminds me, your profits have increased a bit. They're not very high but when rich people are involved things can become high maintenance.

You can still add more upgrades if you feel like it. Additional defenses, emergency teleporters, Rovinar security drones, Submersible FTL yacht, others?


>See if there is a demand for a mobile ship construction fleet that would support a new alliance push, then build it
The Alliance are working on their own program for large foundry ships. Are you talking about groups of smaller construction ships for near front line mining and production like were voted down previously?

>Investigate RSS involvement/subcontracting with Exodus for FA station construction (We've an Anchorage and could be paid partially with Exodus Modules and Exodus Production Licenses?)
This is possible, Exodus would probably be happy to make use of an extra ship like it.

>Also possible to do a limited run of Exodus Transports [or converted Moli?] to add to and aid this effort? [possibly with Exodus Modules provided/as pay?])
Obviously this would not be front line work like the one suggestion above.
How do people feel about this?
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>>36129996
No, no and no. I don't like mobile manufaturing and would prefer to avoid it entirely for anything other than munitions and spare parts, and that only if needed. Also, could we have some actual story posts? This thread has been remarkably dry.
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>>36129996
>Major upgrades to the hotel/bunker on Tourta
Definitely add in emergency teleporters for our bunker.

>See if there is a demand for a mobile ship construction fleet that would support a new alliance push, then build it
I would say no to the construction fleet. I would prefer we focus on salvaging instead. Too much split focus can be harmful to our business especially in high risk areas.

>>36130155
TSG is mainly waiting on the survey results for which sector we are gonna be posted at. Without that we can't really proceed.
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>>36130155
>I don't like mobile manufaturing and would prefer to avoid it entirely for anything other than munitions and spare parts, and that only if needed

As the person that did the Exodus write-in, I agree completely on mobile manufacturing. I feel that construction of stations is an exception to the rule, however. You're basically just bringing in a construction barge/crane that ends up being a more mobile modular station for the duration of construction (multiple months/years?)

Honestly, the main goal of my Exodus plan is to ensure that our Anchorage doesn't just sit around, do nothing and burn up $$$ in the form of crew wages and maintenance. Remember, it is really only required for the largest salvage operations we pull off, and even then it may not always be cost effective.

Ideally, we'll also come away with a crew experienced in building Exodus style stations. Eventually, J-D (or an allied House, or perhaps one of the 7 we have good relations with) is going to want to upgrade from modular stations to something more permanent.
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>>36130512
>>36129996
I for one support the idea of the partner up with Exodus for gaining experience in the station building department.
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It looks like Centri Cluster is going to be the location of your posting, but I'm going to have to leave the survey open due to the Essay boxes.

>>36130512
>(multiple months/years?)
Years. These fleet bases are bigger than Nav stations. Hell they're closer to Iserlohn Fortress in terms of size and tonnage.

The pandora cluster ball proves to be a good event for people from various backgrounds to meet and mingle and helps reinforce diplomatic ties. There are some minor disagreements but nothing breaks into violence. A number of your Knights are helping to keep an eye on security inside.

The House Veritas party eventually leaves once the cover of one of their officers is blown. They'd rather not take the chance. Before departing however they make sure to let you know personally that they're happy the mercenary starfighter contracts seem to be working. House Ceries generally doesnt care about Veritas and are fine with mercs operating out of their space working for them. If the other Houses have figured out your starfighter sale solution there are no signs yet.

Your intel believes that their House has secured contracts with PCCG corps for a limited supply stream of FTL drive components. With their initial war fleet now operational it's going to become difficult to gague Veritas war potential in the years ahead.

Colonel Firth informs you that he's been able to make quite a few friends at this party. Importantly these are mostly with people outside the Dominion since he cant be seen making too many more acquaintances in that direction for some time. Most Factions want to set up additional temporary supply bases in the region which means more money for the local traders and thus more taxes for the government. The militia might actually be able to support the expansion needed rather than relying on privateers being in the area.
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>>36129996
>Major upgrades to the hotel/bunker on Tourta
Might as well keep adding stuff. Add extra activities, rooms, make sure everything is configured to prevent eavesdropping (to allow for more private meetings). Is there a strong shield generator over the complex? If not, grab one - along with the security drones and a large sea-venturing yacht.

We should talk to the planetary governor about setting up the planet as less of a free-port and more of a corporate tax haven, especially in light of the situation in the Pandora Cluster.
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>>36127987
>Want to ask if you can get the go ahead on this now that their AEC is in service?
Sure lets do this. This could be another way of increasing our political prestige that won't tread on any toes.

>>36128803
>>36129242
>>36129286
>Some of the materials used in the armor could be of use to the medical glove/exoskeleton program.
It would be more useful to apply that tech to the exoskeleton. Power armour is already pretty good, but the underarmour can be used with dress unitforms and the like. Energy ablation would make it far more resistant to heat based weapons.

>>36129497
No the HAG would still be more useful. It has the guns to hammer through shields from the front unlike most LSTs, even if both of them could mount the earthquake charges you would want to have the HAG's other capabilities.

>>36129677
Oh right, there is an order of magnitude between LST and planetary shields. Still firing stuff into the ground from outside the shield radius would still work on LSTs and tanks. If you hit them just right with earthquake charges you would leave them sitting in a crater bigger than they are, or even flip them over.

>captcha: supposeth whypapp
why indeed?
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>>36131040
The trio of Veritas officers are all ship captains and include Kavarian by the name of Lessan Kalax, a Hune who introduces herself simply as Ahmaki and a human named Adebowale Specht. Specht is built slightly enough that you're having trouble telling if the captain is male or female.

You were able to talk with them briefly, but there really wasn't enough time with so many others needing your attention.

A few knights and officers you met in Lat'tham space are present and you try to catch up. A number of them sharing stories of having boarded Neeran ships, or fought them off in counter boarding actions.

You don't know how many hands you've shaken or people you've greeted but after a few hours it's starting to feel like you could have talked to every blasted person in the universe. Still you remain cordial towards the guests, even the few annoying one, though you make mental notes to track down whoever invited these people and demote them. Or perhaps just give then a strongly worded letter of disapproval.


Winifred appears near the end of it all.

"You're still alive I see. Your guests haven't torn you apart like a pack of wild dogs, or I suppose Warrel would be a more appropriate term these days. From what I've seen you and your Knights managed to hold things together quite well."

>What say?
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>>36131548
Ask her if we are getting close for that promotion!
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>>36131367

We should really consider the fact that if we get the Vieona rescue turned into a movie, THE Neeran PA from the event could be an incredible heirloom.

And couldn't we just leverage our loan of the PA initially to get any material info that would be useful to the medical exoskeleton program?

There shouldn't be any reason to actually scrap the Neeran PA more than it is, unless we simply can't reproduce any stuff from it that would be useful. And in that case, you'd just end up with a single (maybe a dozen, at best?) of the exoskeleton before you ran out of materials.

>earthquake stuff

I believe that most LSTs are designed to deploy their shields to cover areas similar to an individual planetary shield node (several kilometers?), based upon how we've seen them used to cover entire formations of deployed ground forces. Even more so when they're deployed strategically in groups and can overlap their shields?

Even if they're not as powerful as planetary shields, it is enough to give them breathing room against quake bomb skips.

Tanks it could work on.

>>36131253
Adding stuff is great, but we may want to do it a bit more responsibly than 'buy everything'. We've locked up a good deal of RSS and personal funds during the Posat buyout, and being reassigned to training duty is going to cut back our bonus pay.
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>>36131548
"Well yes, It was a bit touch and go there for a minute, but it all ended well. The Veritas people even managed to not get killed."
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>>36131548
"Pleased you could join us, Sir. It's certainly gone better than expected for such short notice planning. I trust you enjoyed yourself?"
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>>36131582
Honestly, the better question is who are our rivals for promotion at this point? I honestly can't think of anyone from our own expeditionary fleet who really qualifies, but maybe we just don't know their name
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>>36132079
IIRC Winfred said that there was at least 10 possible candidates for knight commander. But that was a while ago so I am assuming its grown since the war.
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"Well yes, It was a bit touch and go there for a minute, but it all ended well. The Veritas people even managed to not get killed."

"Ha! I do hope you would have had the sense to stun them or both sides in an argument and not just the other party. It might have saved us some trouble had something come up."

"I am pleased you could join us, Sir. It's certainly gone better than expected for such short notice planning. I trust you enjoyed yourself?"
"Hardly, I only arrived minutes ago. I've been busy working while keeping a close eye on things and listening to reports. Your marines and some of your Knights were promoted to their positions by me if you recall.
Given that Intelligence agents from the Ruling House were in play I wanted to be sure you didn't get in over your head.

>Ask her if we are getting close for that promotion!
"A one track mind, or nearly so. Salvage, money and promotions."
They're often closely tied you point out.

"I will say you're getting closer. You need time more than anything right now. Time for everything to sink in to the thick skulls of the more entrenched nobles back home. Have you decided on a posting yet?"

You inform her of your decision to go with the Centri cluster though Republic space is certainly interesting. You want those plasma weapons, not just for yourself but for the House.

"Well your intentions when it comes to either are probably quite correct. Time spent in the Centri Cluster is time you can use to better keep an eye on the goings on at home. Your family is largely close by and if anything happens you're only a few days away.
I have some news. I'm afraid that your father will remain posted in the Pandora cluster for the time being. Attempting to reassign him at the moment is possible but would be ill advised."

[ ] He's safe enough where he is at the moment
[ ] I'd still like to have him transferred
[ ] Other
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>>36132185
>[X] I'd still like to have him transferred
But if she can't get him moved out of the cluster, ask if she can at least get him posted somewhere with a shit-load of big guns.

Would paying an 'administrative fee' to certain members of the house military help?
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>>36132185
>[ ] He's safe enough where he is at the moment
its a ridiculous trying to keep a military office out of danger, and its not like he is at the front lines
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>>36132185
>[ ] He's safe enough where he is at the moment
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>>36132185

[X] He's safe enough where he is at the moment

He is a member of the House Military, after all.
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>>36132267
I'll support this.

Is there any training programs we can get him put on that make him a more desirable officer? And as such, a more prestigious and safer posting?
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>>36132267
>ask if she can at least get him posted somewhere with a shit-load of big guns.
"He's currently stationed to the shipyard. It's the only real asset we have in the cluster and it is defended as you well know.
The Royal Logistics Corps may- no, they will be setting up other bases in the region at which point he may be transferred but he could easily turn it down at that point. The question you should ask is will he turn it down since it likely pays better. You may have provided wealth to your family but your fathers psych profile indicates he still still work just as hard as ever. Perhaps even more so.
You may wish to talk to him about his career path."

Winifred looking at people's psych profiles. Wonderful.

You need to talk to your father before returning to the Centri Cluster anyways.
What did you want to say to him?
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>>36132498
Whatever we actually say, we give him the look.
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>>36132498
>What did you want to say to him?

"Soooo, any thoughts on not staying so close to the front? Makes me rightly worried about you just thinking about the Neerans trying to crash Pandora aga- Is this how mom feels each time I head out to the front? Am I going soft? That aside the stuck me at desk duty! Can you believe it! Here I was getting excited over the prospect of another go at the Maelstrom. They even got me a nickname over there, what if they miss me?"

>>36132618
Well if we can't mimic the look after all these time mother has given it to us then I don't think we ever will be able to.
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>>36132498
"Dad, I want you to promise me you'll take the safest postings you can."
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>>36132498

> Winifred looking at people's psych profiles. Wonderful.

Haha, not ours though!

I'm also reasonably sure that her mental folder on us is locked by a big ol' associated headache.
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SURVEY <<<<<<<<

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/S6YBHXZ


Oh my god is that the real time? I've been falling asleep writing and organising this for 3 hours.

There's a thing that I have to do in the late morning so I'll try to resume around 1 PM EST.
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>>36134988
>that first question

Holy shit nigga do you really expect us to read and choose ONLY 2 favourites from that gigantic list?
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>>36114000


>Alliance Explorer Corps
>If you're looking for things to be more Trek themed this would be your ticket.

Heh, we are way past Picard and Kirk in our career. Exploration might be nice, but Sonia has a serious pirate bend to her and has some serious loyalties to her troops and former troops. Would be interesting to see though

I doubt she would go there without at least her core guys.

Probably when we retire but if we go baron i doubt we can go Explorer and fuck up or deal with those Star Trek Voyager expy.

Then again we do have vague ideas of invading the Pandora cluster and probably bringing back the majority of the Kavarians back into the dominion...

Although if we want to have a vacation from the whole thing Alliance Explorer corps could be just the thing to broaden our horizons, and bring with us further investment opportunities and new ways of doing stuff that we can implement for our house first due to personal experience.

If only we could keep in constant contact so we can have things directed the right way for the few black research programs of our house we envisioned with Winifred. You know, cloaking, SP torps and Vecktron.

Would explorer corps give us more experience in those area? I think they would have cloaked ships and perhaps SP torp fabricators if are on a long range autonomous fleet.

We could see proper operation and procedure and gather enough know how to easily boost further reverse engineering in those fields.

Plus let money gather a bit.

Still Sonia trying to do Picard and Kirk shit, after years of intergalactic war that is starting to become WW1 attrition central in space, and sprinkled with black-ops and assassinations. I do not think either of the aforementioned captains would be all that congenial to Sonia. On the contrary.
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>>36132498
>Winifred looking at people's psych profiles. Wonderful.

"Hahammm, psych profiles. yeah. useful stuff."
I bet she had a custom one made out of our interactions once the official one mysteriously and in no way connected to ourselves was permanently misplaced.


If we are in the Centri Cluster we can also function as kind of a contact point and central mail service to our former subordinates and we can send or lobby for shit they need and have them somewhat coordinated in the policy and stuff they do.

We could try to have them up in a semi formal organization and tell them upfront:

"Look guys we are getting split up for a year and then we are coming back online. This is a unique chance to cast the influence we have as far, wide and deep as we can, especially if we coordinate and stick to one or two points."

"So, who is going where and what do you intend to do? Just so each of us knows and can help one another out to get the best results we can, For House And Dominion. And Alliance."
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>>36136235
>Look guys we are getting split up for a year

make that some years.
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>>36131598
>Even if they're not as powerful as planetary shields, it is enough to give them breathing room against quake bomb skips.
Shields get weaker the bigger they get though, if the LST extends the bubble it would lose strength and allow us to just shoot it down. The reason we had trouble with that pack of LSTs was that they all overlapped and the treaty prevented us from just dropping the bar on them.

Anyhow countering those tanks was the original point, any extra functionality is just a bonus (and there are plenty of things you can do with a gigantic bunker buster). We know the tanks are about LST sized, but they remove all the bits that would make an LST fly and replace them with shields and armour. I'm guessing they would keep the shield radius very small to maximize protection, which makes them vulnerable from below like most tanks. The shallans were using fission warheads and one-shot plasma guns as land mines, those were effective but not sustainable because of the cost.

>>36136235
>>36133799
Didn't we just skip getting a psych profile done altogether? At this point though our file would just tell Winifred everything she already knows. (except maybe the power armour ballet swordfighting)
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>>36136583
>At this point though our file would just tell Winifred everything she already knows.

I think Winifred knows if she wants to know anything about Sonia she just has to ask her.

>>36135879
Yeah, that's a very real problem. I had to use a RNG to choose only two.
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Cool project idea here.

You remember when we linked into Versa with that REM sleep headband? What if we took that technology, coordinated it with an AI, and fed the output of drones into pilots in a similar state? You'd have starfighters with the maneuverability and speed of drones but with all the skills of elite pilots.
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>>36135879
Or choose as few as possible.

I was under the assumption that a few people would have a favourite tech they would like sooner than others. For example, stasis tech so that you could start protecting starfighters better.
Home grown SP Torpedo tech, not that it isn't dangerous.
Advanced cloaking for your House or better ships for DHI to produce.

Its something Sonia may help contribute to research in for years. This is not expected to be an easy choice by any means. Please, debate or ask about the merits of particular techs.

Captcha I'm not typing out half of the Star Wars text craw from the start of one of those movies, give me another.
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>>36138168
Okay....things I'd like to see some additional information on:
>=1.3.5 - Specials (PPCDG, Storm Cannon, multi linked beams)
>=1.3.6 - Exotic and theoretical energy weapons

>>36137703
>You remember when we linked into Versa with that REM sleep headband?

I think that would be something that could really aid a lot of computer assisted things in general, from starship design to basically every kind of research. We should definitely throw some money at this.

It would also give us an excuse to request that Versa and the others be kept off the front lines.
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>>36137703

I believe the problem with that idea is that we were only able to interpret the experience as running through past memories. It may be impossible to actually conduct a real-time version, or it could be worse.

And you'd hit heavy resistance from the anti-AI crowds. Remember that there have been several AI incidents mentioned from the past. Weren't a dozen Houses or so wiped out in one that happened in the Dominion?


>>36132719
That seems like an odd thing to ask of our father, considering our job.

>>36132498

"So I had someone bring up your psych profile in conversation. Do we need to have a talk?"
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>>36138168
>Please, debate or ask about the merits of particular techs.

I think we should try to resist going after technologies that would shift the current balance of power between the factions. Terrans have their SP torps, Hune their plasma cannons, and the others have stuff I don't remember.

If we make these widely available through FA research, it's going to upset the status quo, and this will spell trouble. If we manage to upset one faction enough, they might pull out of the FA and that's going to cause a lot of trouble.
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>>36138459
Where is the fun in that? Besides why would we try to get the FA the best tech when we can help the Dominion get the best tech? And the status quo is already going to disappear when the Dominion get's the Plasma tech it's already working on so we may as well make it strongly in our favor by adding other nice techs to it.

Hmm... We just need the Veckron tech to become all powerful you know.
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>>36138536
>Hmm... We just need the Veckron tech to become all powerful you know.

Or everybody teams up on the Dominion to kick it back to the curb.
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TTSTG, what is the general stance in our house towards the Ruling House? Personally I think we should try to prop up the Ruling House by involving them in our SP torp project, we'd gain additional resources for the project while the Ruling House would be strengthened massively by controlling who gets SP tech and who does not. Of course there would be quitea bit of risk involved, but with the Ruling House involved any Terran covert ops would be much less likely to succeed, also our house would have the Ruling House in a massive debt if we supported them in such a critical situation.
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>>36139052
I think we should wait a little bit more.
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>>36138428
> only past experiences

that's the beauty of researching it though. Maybe the REM headset didnt have the power to trigger neurons? Maybe because we were fighting an AI it was the easiest interpretation Versa could give us, given that we're not an AI and don't think in code. Either way it's a basis tech that we can use off-the-shelf in a very profitable program.
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>>36138168
Goddam, I completely forgot about stasis tech! Went home-grown Dominion plasma and House anti-V instead.

I'm just curious about the dam stuff, what has happened to that guy who injected himself?
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>>36140547
Thank you.

>>36139270
>Goddam, I completely forgot about stasis tech!
Well I believe I've got the settings changed now so that if you want to you can go back and change your response.

>>36137703
>>36138299
>>36138428
It was your recon armor but same deal.
I'm going to class that as part of AI Research (Alliance). I cant say how effective it might be at this time but you never know.

>>36138299
>Okay....things I'd like to see some additional information on:
>>=1.3.5 - Specials (PPCDG, Storm Cannon, multi linked beams)
Phased Plasma Channel Discharge Gun - This is the Republic Lightning gun. It has a short range and requires special heavy phase cannon turret mounts on ships to be used effectively without damaging the carrying craft. there are difficulties with maintenance. Your attack wings used 1 Rapier that had been modified with one of these weapons. It seemed to be effective against Neeran tech once their shields were down and damaged the engines of a heavy tanker.
Unfortunately the ship was destroyed in the same battle you lost the Unnamed Guard.
These weapons are sometimes carried by Republic Mediums instead of Harmonic Resonance Repulsor weapons or certain Heavy phase cannon turret mounts.
It was developed in collaboration with the Rovinar.

The Storm cannon combines the Harmonic Resonance Repulsor with the PPCDG to create a truly devastating weapon. The downside is that it suffers all of the ill effects of both. Often they're only usable for 1 battle before the entire weapon needs to be replaced. When combined with their cost they're rarely seen in use.
The Alliance is hoping that development of both parent weapons will result in a better quality Storm cannon.

Multi linked beams include things such as twin linked phase cannons, quad linked or higher. They result in a supercharged phased energy beam with high shield penetration capacity. There are limits to this effect.
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Hey TSTG were there any other good research suggestions? I know I put a few in, some reasonable others pretty crazy. Might be good inspiration if there was a full list of what people had submitted.
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>>=1.3.6 - Exotic and theoretical energy weapons
Some anons have suggested research into shield piercing energy weapons. One suggestion was a veckron based beam technology.
There have also been requests for research into antimatter particle beams over the years. I'm sure there are others that didn't make it into the essay box.

>>36139052
>TTSTG, what is the general stance in our house towards the Ruling House?
For the past century it's generally been felt that you need the support of the Ruling House to simply be rolled over by some of your other enemies should they declare war on you. Towards that end the house has sent ships to assist them and their allies in numerous wars such at the one your father fought in. No one would dare say anything overly critical, at least publicly, for fear of losing some of their support.

>Personally I think we should try to prop up the Ruling House by involving them in our SP torp project
This could provide additional resources to work on such a project and some measure of protection.
As a larger House they also have a higher profile and thus would be the target of more spying attempts. The profile of your own House is steadily increasing.

>>36139270
>Went home-grown Dominion plasma and House anti-V instead.
>I'm just curious about the dam stuff, what has happened to that guy who injected himself?
Rob Ecord and Knight Captain Saputo did initially seem to age more visibly for awhile after being injected but after that it stopped.
There have been tests on some of those injected. They don't seem to take as much damage from subspace radiation exposure and there are some other odd properties still being looked into. As was warned they've also been rendered sterile.
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>>36141337
>Hey TSTG were there any other good research suggestions? I know I put a few in, some reasonable others pretty crazy. Might be good inspiration if there was a full list of what people had submitted.
This was all of them.
>Plasma, stealth, SP, Vectors/Engines
>no preference but nothing to do with the SRL
>Anti-Vecktron radiation, Plasma cannon tech (heavy and medium), heavy fusion canon, point defence, shield tech, stasis tech, cloaking tech, foundry ships, metallurgy/general construction tech

>Anti-matter boosted fusion reactor feasibility study.
This counts as afterburner tech. It's basically the same thing though you get into the problems of long term AM storage if you don't want to waste more energy than you'd get out of it aboard ship.
The tech to produce them has existed for some time.

>Combining plasma cannons with phase cannons. Supercharged phase cannons.
>Exotic weapons (shield/armor piercing beams etc) Stealth bombers, Sideways warping, SP Torpedoes with micro jumpdrives.

>Take the singularity tech developed from the FTL interdiction and try turn it into a power generation system
Requires FTL interdiction

>Dominion plasma tech, power armor/exosuits, shield tech, repulsors. Also high-yield conventional explosives for earthquake bombs
>Plasma technology, alternative SP munitions
>Plasma tech, advanced power armor, alternative SP tech, melee weapon tech.
>ALL THE PLASMA
>Dominion Plasma Tech

>Neeran CX production?
I believe I failed to put this one in. At any rate it would need to extensively modified to make it harder for Neeran troops to hijack these ships once they're in service. A Faction design of similar capacity will be made available eventually.

> Stay In The Fight, Cowards! (Dominion War Participation)
This is not an R&D suggestion.

>Power Cell Armour, Mass Driver Weapons, Super Heavies
>Shields, weapons
>Plasma weapons small arms and ship cannons. More efficient energy reactors.
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You head by the station before you set out for your next assignment then wait until your father is finished his shift rather than interrupt. He's surprised to see you but still happy.
"You should have called. How did you party go?"

"It went rather smoothly actually. No major incidents but there were so many people though. I didn't think there was going to an end to them."

"Well you made it through in one piece. Are you off to the front again?"
"No, my new assignment has me posted in the Centri Cluster."
"Really?" He's a little shocked by this. "You maybe seeing more of your siblings than I will for awhile."

"I tried to see if I could get your posting changed." you admit.
"Sonia, I go where I'm sent or where I'm needed."
"That was what I wanted to talk to you about. Dad, I want you to promise me you'll take the safest postings you can. That may seem like an odd thing for me to ask given what I do."

"It really does, though it would be difficult for anyone not understand why after the events of this year."

"It makes me really worried about you, just thinking about the Neeran potentially trying to crash Pandora aga-
Is this how mom feels each time I head out to the front? Am I going soft?
That aside they stuck me at desk duty! Can you believe it! Here I was getting excited over the prospect of another go at the Maelstrom. They even got me a nickname over there, what if they miss me?"

Your father bursts our laughing attracting the attention of several people in the promenade. "Well isn't that terrible for you! Having to be a responsible adult and not run out to bother the enemy at every step."

After you've finished dying from embarrassment you attempt to resume.
"Dad, we're getting off topic. I had someone bring up your psych profile in conversation. It said you might try to transfer to less secure stations when the option is available."
"Oh? I wouldn't know anything about that." he replies, feigning ignorance.

You give him the look.
Roll 1d100 for look.
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>>36136235
Might be nice to keep heavily in touch with other members of our army group and coordinate with them.

We could get more done, and have a heavier semi organized support structure on the military side. This could be the beginning of our house having a nice mechanic like the Republic Favour system they have established allowing us not only to standardize Alliance doctrine as well as get intel on various people and their military and strategic disposition and tendencies but a certain political apparatus that can get shit done.

We might need to hire some staff to process it all and make sure everything is accounted and done right. Especially if we are in the Centri cluster allowing us easy access to our house, the dominion at large and a few other alliance members.
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Rolled 42 (1d100)

>>36143136
Earning more money to support the family is kinda pointless if I have to spend millions to hire mercenaries to keep you alive.
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>>36143136
He is our dad. We know his bullshit. Of course he knows our bullshit to, and probably suspects that we really do not like this whole business of fortifying things on both sides.

We are kind of Attack Attack Attack....
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Rolled 64 (1d100)

>>36143136
>Roll 1d100 for look.

I doubt anything except a nat 100 will work. Would a nat 1 be puppy dog eyes and a pout?

Also, hug dad while we're here.
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Rolled 33 (1d100)

>>36143136
>>36143265
Gah stupid dice.

Oh my god, now i realized i made us sound like a mini Patton.
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>>36143250
Nah, we understand how things go with the military.

Its just that they are not font liners like us - Its kind of obvious in the way Sonia puts it. Not the same chances of pulling it off like us, especially since its was our stick for how many years to basically bypass enemy front liners and kill and destroy logistics and support wholesale.
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Rolled 85 (1d100)

>>36143136
"I know you will do the best job you can do, just do not die. You made me promise not to get killed, and now its your turn to do so. Because if i were in the Neeran command i would be ordering raids to fuck up fortifications and blow up logistics like there is no tomorrow. Scratch that that is my go to option. Penetrate the lines and make a lot of damage in unprotected areas."
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"What are you- really? You? You're the one giving me the look now?"

"Dad, I know your bullshit. Of course that works both ways.
I know you will do the best job you can do, just do not die. You made me promise not to get killed, and now its your turn to do so. Because if I were in the Neeran command I would be ordering raids to fuck up fortifications and blow up logistics like there is no tomorrow. Scratch that, that is my go to option. Penetrate the lines and make a lot of damage in unprotected areas."

He waits patiently until you've finished making that particular point then reminds you. "Language."

"Sorry. What I'm getting at is if you're offered a better paying job with the same sort of work with the Royal Logistics Corps, but you know their station will be less defended than this shipyard would you still take the job?"

He doesn't initially answer you.

"Dad?"
"I'm thinking."
"This is what I'm talking about. Working and putting as much effort into it as you know you can is good but earning more money to support the family is kinda pointless if I have to spend millions to hire mercenaries to keep you alive."

He sighs heavily, at least partially in annoyance.
"A'right I get the picture."

"Really?"
"Really."
"Really really?"
"Sonia."

You give dad a hug before he can get the same idea.
"Thank you dad, this means a lot to me, and to Mom and Bekka and Ethan too I'll bet."

"Just don't bankrupt yourself on mercenaries for my sake. I probably would have found a way off that station."
You cant tell if he's lying or if he actually believes that. Just in case you tell him to get a better sidearm and try out your new repulsor rifle in the holobooth if he's going to insist on that.
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>>36144357
>You cant tell if he's lying or if he actually believes that.
Can we show him a recording of what happened during that battle after he left the station?
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>>36144357
How much did the mercs cost for the operation anyway?

We can tell him we're practically set for saving him a hundred times.
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>>36138168
>I was under the assumption that a few people would have a favourite tech they would like sooner than others. For example, stasis tech so that you could start protecting starfighters better.
Oh personal favourites? I though you were just asking people to pick two so we could narrow down the vote. I ended up voting for FTL interdiction and dominion plasma. Our current projects like the mass rifle already have some momentum behind them or are nearly done. But for long term pet projects I can think of three things:

1. Advanced power armour repulsor systems. Jump jets, active defence systems, jedi power gloves, SANIC boot skates, that sort of thing. There are so many possible uses. especially for recons.
2. Svidur's pandora's box of goodies. In particular we should try to figure out drain-proof power generation systems. We'll need those for when we poke the dyson sphere in the eye.
3. Hybrid plasma weaponry. Phase/Plasma firing out of the same emitter, phase for endurance and plasma for damage, or both at once for maximum dakka. Lightning guns combined with plasma beams to form an electrolaser with far greater effective range.

There are some other ideas I've been thinking about like SP torpedo railguns, tactical shield/gravity ships for fleet combat and modular plasma assault cruisers that I'd like to see in the future. But those ideas are either recombinations of existing technology or already being researched.
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TSTG, would making the rest of our family (and dad especially) members of the Nobility be worth it?

We have a ton of land on Rioja now. Couldn't we just give (or sell at an extremely low price) some land to them, making them part of the nobility?
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>>36144357
>spend millions to hire mercenaries to keep you alive
If they're still around, I'd like to thank them in person. I know, they just did what we paid for but keeping dad alive was pretty important.

Sonia's probably pretty grateful, even if she had to pay a lot for the rescue.
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>>36144845
I went with Dominion plasma and general stasis tech (Which I think is underused by all factions currently).

While an anon did make a valid point about upsetting the delicate power balance among the Factions, I doubt that this project will end in good concrete results anytime soon.
'
In terms of other favorite tech, I'd have to be the Anti-V radiation drug, Anti-Matter power generation and innovations in the recon Armour department
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>>36144845
I for one would fully support #2.

Just about anything/everything Svindur gave us is important.
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>holy shit nigga thats like a gorillion choices gatdamn
I am aware of that feel.

>Survey / Other
>Plasma/Lightning electrolaser hybrid
For the main gun of the Devourer or were you thinking of small arms?

>>36144507
>Can we show him a recording of what happened during that battle after he left the station?
Not of his particular station since it was reduced to a debris belt, but the rest of that system yes. After getting him the salvage reports on the station itself you ask for permission to give your father clearance to see the battle. The media have shown some of the recordings they've gotten hold of from the climax of the battle but not the rest of it, and certainly not the opening stages before cloaking fields showded everything.

The initial attack waves were relatively small in some places. Probing the defenses before the heavier ships arrived and smashed anything that could put up resistance. A scorcher that took a shot at one station over penetrated its target and hit the small moon behind it, cutting a gouge out of the surface longer than most of their own ships.

"Wow. Overkill though, imagine how much fuel that must have wasted. Hang on, stop."

You pause the recordings and he zooms in on some of the sensor contacts. Some ships are scooping salvaged neeran craft from the holding yards as you'd seen but others are going after chunks of debris from the station and those blown into space from the moon that was hit. Each one begins to break down their target using some type of energy beam, vacuuming up the remains with tractor beams.

"Harvesters."
"Oh good, we didn't have enough problems. They have mini-mining barges." If you were to go back through the recordings of the Decoy operation and the battle at the shipyard you could probably find some of these little bastards, but they're built on a frame similar to the enemy Corvettes and HLV's so it would be near impossible to pick them out.

The recordings do give your father an idea of what things were like.
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>>36145119
>For the main gun of the Devourer or were you thinking of small arms?
In theory should work with plasma beams of all sizes, barring the usual issues with miniaturization. We'd probably want to chop up some plasma antitank guns and tinker with them a bit before we mess with a cannon the size of the Devourer's. If we did the research alongside the rest of the Dominion stuff it might be easier because we can design a plasma gun specifically to work with phase/lighting and not have to re-engineer a replublic weapon.
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>>36144845
>I though you were just asking people to pick two so we could narrow down the vote.
That is an option.

>2. Svidur's pandora's box of goodies.
The last time this was discussed a majority voted to "Keep them with the Baron's people" despite their increasing inability to make progress on the tech.
>To get anywhere in reverse engineering them within your lifetime they really need the R&D support of several Factions working on it.
Do you want to hand them over to Alliance R&D yet? Or some of them?

>>36144845
>3. Hybrid plasma weaponry. Phase/Plasma firing out of the same emitter,
That is one of the available R&D projects listed.

1.4.4 - phased plasma tech (Reverse engineering)

>SP torpedo railguns
These already-
>But those ideas are either recombinations of existing technology or already being researched.
Okay then.

>>36144852
>TSTG, would making the rest of our family (and dad especially) members of the Nobility be worth it?
>We have a ton of land on Rioja now. Couldn't we just give (or sell at an extremely low price) some land to them, making them part of the nobility?
To what end? What do you hope they'll gain from it that they don't have access to at the moment?

>>36144857
>If they're still around, I'd like to thank them in person. I know, they just did what we paid for but keeping dad alive was pretty important.
>Sonia's probably pretty grateful, even if she had to pay a lot for the rescue.
They're off guarding salvage teams in the hopes of buying a crippled ship and fixing it up to replace their losses.
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>>36145761
>Do you want to hand them over to Alliance R&D yet?

Only with an army of lawyers who make sure we'll actually get paid for this. Paid a lot.

Also, exclusive rights to anything resulting from this outside of FA use for a couple of centuries or something along those lines.

In addition to that, a small planetoid must be dragged into a stable orbit around the Terran's capital planet with Sonia's face on it and school children will have to bow to it every day before school beings.
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>>36145761
>They're off guarding salvage teams in the hopes of buying a crippled ship and fixing it up to replace their losses.

... how long has it been since the battle? Seems odd they haven't tried to locate some ships like our wings did, and have RSS recover them. Could have even profited from that.

I guess I should ask if we managed to screw the Terrans out of any ships (due to lack of salvage team supply vs demand) or got paid with some crippled ones, too.

I've actually got an SP torp question, though. Does an SP torp leave a gap behind it, when it penetrates a normal shield? And does the entire casing have to be SP? Or would it be possible to reduce the amount of SP material actually needed in an SP casing?
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>>36145761
>Or some of them?
Yes only some.

Keep the Dyson Sphere key for now. We can start by providing small pieces.

I remember we'd got a run-down list of all the stuff he left us, but never anything comprehensive.
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Can we grind up the material an FTL drive plate is made of and add the dust into a plasma cannon or phase cannon shot to see what it does?
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Confirming, Aegis Armoring will be the new name of the armor company.

Bounty
>Possibly Seek and Destroy for the current one before that.
Before what? Paying the 40m?

Slim majority for paying the Warlord to stave off future attempts by anyone to put bounties on you. Does anyone from the seek and destroy crowd wish to change your vote to either of the other two options please say so in thread.

10% RSS investment per year in Foreign Branch in other Factions.

>Ask the Terrans first.
It takes a few tries to get hold of someone who will take you seriously at first. Eventually you're forced to change your approach to get hold of someone with proper clearance since most of the officers from aboard that ship are unreachable.
Eventually you get hold of a Terran Admiral who you inform you have classified information on the development of the AEC class, some of which may or may not be released to the media if they can't get someone, anyone from intel to take you seriously.

You know you're talking to the right person when the officer they connect you to responds with. "Oh, you."
"Yes me."
"Knight Captain Sonia Reynard, Alliance general. Yes we know who you are. What can I help you with today."

You tell them your intention to make use of those movie rights and if they would be okay with that. Also you want number to contact if you need to discuss classified matters in the future. If they don't have a hotline they should get one.

They're not thrilled about the idea of a movie at the moment. Especially with that agreement being more of a footnote in the Vieona salvage operation. It was written down though which means you can sue anyone else who tries to make it or have Terran intel shut them down for wartime secrecy.

Overall they'd like you to not make it at all -ever- but as long as conditions regarding certain secrets are met they can't block you from making it. They would like a year minimum to take care of some things on their end.
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>>36147027
>They would like a year minimum
Deal!

We should make it a horror story about intrepid explorers being hunted by a genetically engineered creature that can shapeshift and take over people's bodies, and also survive in the vacuum of space after hundreds of years.
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>>36147027
>Overall they'd like you to not make it at all -ever- but as long as conditions regarding certain secrets are met they can't block you from making it.

If they weren't constantly trying to antagonise us, we might have actually buried the idea but...
we could trade in the movie rights for a favour, or something.
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>>36147027
>Terrans don't want a fucking awesome propaganda film about finding one of their most legendary ships
AND THEY WONDER WHY THEY HAVE BAD POPULATION MORALE
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>>36147151
That is entirely not how the Vieona operation went.

It would probably be more of a Raiders of the Lost Arc type thing, starting with Saputo.

The v-rad thing should be our original goal, but we should make a point of ignoring the longevity deal and have the 'injection' being something the doctor came up with as a 'screw you, dominion' thing (camera shows her purposely making a poison while we aren't looking), and we find this out later.

In the end, its a story of the Factions coming together. From 'out for ourselves', to the FA Captain eventually convincing the 'merc' Dominion forces that teamwork is vital to everyone's survival. Oh, and preserve Saputo getting poison-KO'ed for the fight and the Terran security guy's "wrong neighborhood" line.

And we don't know what happened on Beryl's adventure. Though I don't think Sonia ever got an official story on how so many RSS folks died on one ship.
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>>36147392
>That is entirely not how the Vieona operation went.
I was going to make a joke-went-over-the-head joke but I'm worried that would have gone over your head too.
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>>36147422
Just because I'm a Shallan doesn't mean you can make short jokes!
Hey, who put a mine on my belt?
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>>36147392
>Vieona movie

Krath tentacle scene for the 18+ future DVD release?
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>>36147392
Do you want Not-Chris-Pratt as one of the marines?

>>36147517
>Krath tentacle scene for the 18+ future DVD release?
Really surprised more people haven't gone there.
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>>36147691
>Really surprised more people haven't gone there.

Well, considering how nice the Krath we actually met were, and with all that effort their government puts into keeping things about them secret, we should probably ask them how they'd like to be depicted in the movie. Or if they would prefer not to show up at all.
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SURVEY<<<<<<<<

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/673THL7

With the finalists for the R&D options.


>>36146087
>... how long has it been since the battle?
You were out salvaging for more than a month. It took weeks for your Kilo and other RSS ships to arrive. Cleanups efforts are still ongoing. Reconstruction will take longer.

>Seems odd they haven't tried to locate some ships like our wings did, and have RSS recover them. Could have even profited from that.
The mercs weren't really equipped for salvage work and only had 2 ships, not dozens to send out looking weeks earlier.
Did you want to give them a discount on a ship? They were paid for the job of getting your father out of there but hardly enough to replace a modified Light Cruiser.

>I guess I should ask if we managed to screw the Terrans out of any ships (due to lack of salvage team supply vs demand) or got paid with some crippled ones, too.
You found a number of Scorpion and Gamma class ships that you don't have to give back to the Terrans since no observers were present.
>I've actually got an SP torp question, though. Does an SP torp leave a gap behind it, when it penetrates a normal shield?
Not really.
>And does the entire casing have to be SP? Or would it be possible to reduce the amount of SP material actually needed in an SP casing?
The Republic is rumored to be looking into this. They're hoping to plate just the forward section of some of their missiles with an SP casing so that the warhead gets through, and if the rest doesn't who cares?
They've yet to begin testing but it should be soon now that they're nearly finished the logistics of sorting out newer stasis fusion warheads that will replace most of the older nukes.
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>>36146170
>>36145939
>>36145761
I think we'll need to recap everything that was in Svidur's box before we can make a decision on that. Pretty sure he gave us most of the data so that we would share it, but a few things like the dyson sphere key were just for us. There is no possible way one research lab will make sense of it on a deadline not measured in centuries, so it would have to be a joint effort. The question is with who? We can't simply give it to everyone, but we also can't shift the balance of power too much either. Working with the Alliance would help ensure the tech got spread evenly, but they are also the most vulnerable to infiltration.

>>36147027
Are we still a Brevet General or was that finally taken care of? Still wondering what the delay was about.

>Overall they'd like you to not make it at all -ever- but as long as conditions regarding certain secrets are met they can't block you from making it. They would like a year minimum to take care of some things on their end.
One year is fine, we can easily fill the time with prep work, prop making, non-classified scene filming and whatever else future hollywood has to do. It should be fairly easy to work around the classified bits, most of it would probably just involve changing labels on stuff.

>>36147392
We TOTALLY need to have the actors pull off the "grapple into HF blade shank" manoeuvre on the Neeran big bad. Plus the hoverbike shenanigans. There were enough indoor fireworks on that mission to make Micheal Bay blush, plenty to work with for action scenes.

>>36147517
>>36147691
Yup gotta have the mind probe. From what we know about the Krath they don't like telling people anything at all. But we can't just cut the guy out of the film, so we should get in touch and figure out what kind of subtle misinformation we can use instead.

>Hmm lets see what Chris Pratt has worked on...
>Kinect Star Wars
>Strangers with Candy, the movie
Gotta start somewhere I guess.
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>>36147517
>>36147691
.... Space elf Shallan 5, wrath of the big black krath.

>>36148219
>Did you want to give them a discount on a ship?
Sure, they did a good job getting him out so I think a discount on a ship would make a nice bonus for them.

>newer stasis fusion warheads
Sounds interesting, yet more tech we must steal and/or copy from them.

I so hope we begin on SP tech for the time skip. Else I fear it will take years IRL before we can manage it.

Also I have been giving some more thought to marrying Sonia to someone. Don't we know someone who is a fairly successful noble, a good commander, can work his way around nobles and who we actually know? I am of course talking about Alex.
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>>36148219
>Did you want to give them a discount on a ship?
Sure, I don't mind. They saved dad, that's all that matters.
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>>36148219
>Nothing I voted for actually ended up on that list
Well, fuck.
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>>36148219
>Scorpion/Gamma class ships

Are those RSS or J-D claims, though? We've gotten to the point where anything we claim for J-D doesn't necessarily fall under our command.

And it is all the sweeter when RSS gets to keep Terran goodies.

>discount to mercs

Unless RSS got the lion's claim on the ships we spirited away, I'm a bit loathe to hand out too many discounts. (The one to the Rovinar was deserved due to the sheer losses their fleet must have taken. Maybe steer these mercs toward that kid that wanted to buy the Errant and get himself killed? Oh crap, was he in the Pandora Cluster?)

>SP torp stuff

Well, I had a few ideas. In theory, the SP torp should displace the protective value of the shield as it passes. First thought was that you might be able to get the same effect by having 'staves' of SP material, rather than a solid SP casing.

The second was sort of a hybrid weapon. You'd basically make an SP bullet/cone and fire a plasma cannon into the back end, accelerating it and hopefully exploiting the hole the SP bit punches through the shield. The plasma stream of the shot would keep the gap open by acting similar to a splinter round, the outer layer effectively being ablative to prevent the shield from stopping the center.
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>>36148898
Eh, same here.
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>>36148219
Can we not trade the box of goodies with the FA?

Personally, I'd just like to start a discussion within the house about making it a co-op project with the Ruling House?
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>>36149295
I'm highly against handing over the Sphere map to anyone, but I mostly forget what the rest was.
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>>36149342
Yeah, I'd agree with this too. We really need to look at the list again before we make any decisions...
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>>36148450
>Are we still a Brevet General or was that finally taken care of? Still wondering what the delay was about.
There seems to be a reason behind this. The Alliance has an overabundance of Admirals and Generals at the moment despite the recent losses. With so many of them being transfered to rear locations there is a very good chance they'll outrank the local station commanders and administrators.
A possible solution that's being looked at is the use of brevet ranks for combat commanders. When pulled back to rear line noncombat duties they would be reduced to the previous rank so as to no overrule station administration in day to day work. This may be necessary for some Dominion officers who have otherwise caused problems for "subordinate officers."
On return to front line duties the Admirals and Generals would be restored to full rank.

This is an experiment intended to determine measures necessary to get personnel from various Factions to continue to work together.
You're free to provide input.

>Would research into anti-matter & special shields powered by it possibly negate how SP are able to penetrate normal shields?
Antimatter reactors would increase the available energy output to strengthen shields. A shield type resistant to SP's would likely be its own thing.

>>36148450
>I think we'll need to recap everything that was in Svidur's box before we can make a decision on that.

Neeran artifacts
-Map of a transport system used to move around the interior of the Dyson Sphere
-Neeran biological fusion reactor
-plasma weapon
-cooling laser
-micro E-beam
-man portable plasma channel discharge weapon / a lighting gun
-focusing system to amplify energy input / Drive core tech?
-energy conversion system
-tissue regeneration (Certain requirements untranslated)
-Remote Energy assimilator technology (Speculated)
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>>36149857
So the FA does not trust us to behave like a adult person, nice.

Now the question is what we get if we let them have access to these artifacts? At the lest I want us to get the tech back fully unlocked with no silly strings attached to it such as we can't use it against others besides the Neeran. If the FA can agree to such terms then I would be willing to let them have the things to research and develop.

-micro E-beam
Starfighter micro or handgun micro?

-Neeran biological fusion reactor
We still need to find a way to put that thing in us. I also want to have awesome powers like the Neeran.

-cooling laser
Could this be applied to the Heavy Plasma cannon as it as cooling problems? Or is it not that kind of cooling?

But yeah, it all depends on the deal.
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>>36149857
Wasn't there a metal plate that was used for accessing the dyson sphere or was that just the map?
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>>36149857
>Dominion officers
Incidents such as...?

>Neeran box tech
As I said before, I'd rather work with the Ruling House as opposed to the FA, but if we do, let's limit it to tech that doesn't give up a critical advantage for us / has a broad application, like the tissue regeneration.
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There was a question I wanted to answer but I can not figure out which post it was in.

>>36148502
>newer stasis fusion warheads
>Sounds interesting, yet more tech we must steal and/or copy from them.
They were developed by a joint faction project. All Factions that took part have access to the technology for them. Your House isn't producing them yet but your ships were armed with some by the Alliance. They came out a few months ago.

>>36150117
>Starfighter micro or handgun micro?
Handgun. Or maybe rifle sized.
The Rovinar are working to down scale their E-beams to possibly be used on smaller LST's so they're not really close to that yet.

>We still need to find a way to put that thing in us.


>Could this be applied to the Heavy Plasma cannon as it as cooling problems? Or is it not that kind of cooling?
That is possible.

>>36150373
That was the map. The plates are effectively instruction sheets for each artifact. The only one that doesn't have a corresponding artifact is the map.

>>36150645
Well we've got 10/11 votes for handing some tech over to the Factions Alliance. Regrettably performing a project with just the help of the Ruling House did not come up before it was posted.

Which tech would you guys be okay with sharing with the FA? We could then see about help from the Ruling House with some or everything that is decided to be kept back.
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>>36150726
Cooling laser, drive core tech, and plasma.

On the stipulation we get several samples of returned tech and maybe patents or something.
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>>36150726
>-plasma weapon
>-micro E-beam
I really want to share the cooling laser to help the big republic plasma guns/platforms but that might give them too much of an advantage over dominion itself.
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>>36150726
Still not fancy about sharing unless we get something out of it. I request negotiating rather than gift giving.

Would the Rovinar be interested in that E-beam tech then? I mean would it not be better to start a research program with them with this tech and get on a better standing with them rather than the FA. That way we could more easily limit E-beam spread to just two factions rather than all.

Likewise would the Republic be interested in perhaps sharing their Plasma Tech with the Dominion program and in turn they can have the cooling laser and the plasma weapon? More advanced guns for them and we can build guns.

As for the FA.

-energy conversion system

-focusing system to amplify energy input / Drive core tech?

-Remote Energy assimilator technology (Speculated)
I am okay with sharing these techs with them.
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>>36150837
Echoing this. If we have to give them something, these two and the tissue regeneration are fine with me.

Also, let's see if the Republic would trade plasma cannon knowledge for this cooling tech.
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>>36150793
>On the stipulation we get several samples of returned tech and maybe patents or something.
>>36145939
>Only with an army of lawyers who make sure we'll actually get paid for this. Paid a lot.
>Also, exclusive rights to anything resulting from this outside of FA use for a couple of centuries or something along those lines.
A decade or two might be more realistic but is possible. No one issues unlimited duration patents since the Kavarians showed how badly that could work. That story is for another time if I have not posted it in any H&D thread before.

>>36151004
>I request negotiating rather than gift giving.
That seems to be the consensus.

>Would the Rovinar be interested in that E-beam tech then?
Probably, though even their R&D would likely have trouble. Even they may need help.

The Republic is unlikely to trade away their one key weapon tech for something that may eventually work. They'll trade a finite number of guns but not their leading tech.

>Remote Energy assimilator technology
Btw, in case this was not clear this is an energy draining tech similar to what is aboard Neeran Empire Supers.

Plasma weapon
E-beam
focusing system / energy amplifier
tissue regeneration

These 4 seem to be the most popular.
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>>36150726
>Svidur stuff to share with the FA

- Neeran biological fusion reactor
- focusing system to amplify energy input
- tissue regeneration

Things I'm not really sure about:
- energy conversion system (worried it may empower Hune plasma tech further)
- Remote Energy assimilator technology (Energy Drain? Might be useful for the FA)

And 'no way in hell am I letting the FA get this, Svidur said we had to be responsible':

- Map (until the sphere is retaken, this doesn't exist)
- plasma weapon (without more info, worried this may be something better kept to the Dominion)
- cooling laser (Hune Republic could take any TWO factions. They'd only grow more powerful with this)
- micro E-beam (Gonna agree with Madman. This would be an interesting thing to give the Rovinar/Krath, in exchange for royalties/massive credit)
- lightning gun (It didn't seem that effective for the Neeran. possible waste of R&D power for now)
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>>36148450
>Yup gotta have the mind probe. From what we know about the Krath they don't like telling people anything at all. But we can't just cut the guy out of the film, so we should get in touch and figure out what kind of subtle misinformation we can use instead.

Obviously we go the HFY route and have a sexy blonde with surprising empathy be exposed to the Alien Neeran's telepathy and that triggers development of her own psychic powers that are totally overpowered, like full-on Force Lightning style while she's in the ship. Hint at it being magic level technology doing it.

If you make it ridiculous enough, not only will it make money but people will just discount the whole thing.
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>>36151304
>- lightning gun (It didn't seem that effective for the Neeran. possible waste of R&D power for now)
If it's a research dead-end, we might as well give it away. Personally, I'm not too keen on giving away any of the energy techs (drive core, electrical systems, etc)
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Alliance Tier:
>Neeran bio reactor
We and the Alliance have recovered a bunch of these from dead commandos already. All the researchers are missing is the rosetta stone plate that supposedly explains how they work.
>focusing system to amplify energy input / Drive core tech?
It seems to be an energy amplifier of some sort, meaning you get more energy in per volt spent, or more energy out or something like that. We'd never be able to figure this one out on our own in 200 years, so at least this way everyone benefits.
>tissue regeneration (Certain requirements untranslated)
This could lead to better faction healthcare in general which is a win for everyone. Or it could lead to a zombie apocalypse, request that translation be finished before they do anything
>Remote Energy assimilator technology (Speculated)
This is the energy drain right? We need to figure this out or the entire Alliance will be at a fighting disadvantage on Neeran turf.

They'll never be able to top this favour tier:
>micro E-beam
Joint project with Rovinar/Krath. They are probably the only ones who can figure it out.

SECRETS Tier
>Map of Dyson Sphere
We'll bring this out when it's time to execute Operation Gandalf, until then it stays buried.
>cooling laser
If anything upsets the balance of power it would be this. More cooling will soon mean faster plasma fire and will have to be careful before we do anything with it.

Hang onto this for now tier:
>plasma weapon
Plasma tech is going to get VERY competitive in the near future and we need to retain any possible edge.
>man portable plasma channel discharge weapon / a lighting gun
When the house starts doing hybrid plasma research they could have a go at figuring this out.

I forgot what this one does tier:
>energy conversion system
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>>36150726
>Well we've got 10/11 votes for handing some tech over to the Factions Alliance.
*with heavy contractual obligations owed by the Alliance


>>36150645
>Incidents such as...?
Such as a Baron (none that you know) and one or two Knight Commanders ending up trying to place themselves in command over Base commanders who might have only been Officers or lower ranked Knights from other Houses. Or even officers from other Factions. But because their rank was higher they felt that they were in command of not just the garrison but that the base commanders should be subject to their orders too.

While it has been more of an issue among Dominion personnel it's not entirely restricted to the. There have been disagreements within Terran and Kavarian space.

Boarding your ship after saying goodbye to your father you set off for the Centri Cluster and yournew posting. You're not sure how long you'll be there but it could be for some time. The ships from your command squad are split up. Some remain in the Pandora cluster, others head back with you. Most of them will be remaining in House space while the escort ships you own will accompany you.

The return home lets you stop in and check on everyone again. Mom is relieved that both you and your father are alive and well. Bekka has gone through a few more months of school, your brother is becoming slightly better behaved and you get the chance to really say hello to him for the first time since he started to talk.

You only have time to stay for a few days before moving on.

>Is you new posting in the Centri Cluster in Dominion space, Terran, Kavarian or Rovinar? They've all set aside base facilities. This may affect future interactions.
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>>36152156
Dominion space
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>>36152156
Dominion space
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>>36152156
Let's go Kavarian.
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>>36152138
>Or it could lead to a zombie apocalypse, request that translation be finished before they do anything
That's a great idea! We should totally do that!
Actually that just gave me an even better idea totally not stolen from Stargate.


>This is the energy drain right?
Yes

>I forgot what this one does tier:
>energy conversion system
It's supposed to be able to convert one form of energy into another, theoretically. Light or heat into kinetic, etc. They're not sure how it works, or how it could work.
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>>36152472
>>energy conversion system
I called it many threads ago and I'm calling it again, but I'm willing to bet money this is an integral tech to Neeran spongy shield tech.
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Rolled 48 (1d200)

R&D options are still a tight race. 25 posts left.

I'll try to get in a few story posts before the end of the thread but it's likely to focus quite a bit on the training that makes up your new job.

The Alliance base Commander is a Rovinar by the name of Gurin.

>>36152234
>>36152388
>>36152430
We'll see where precisely the base is located hopefully by morning.

See you in the morning.
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>>36152156
Kavarian
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>>36152971
From the split vote, it seems like we might need another survey for this.

I'd vote for Dominion space, for the obvious reasons. What are the arguments for Kavarian space?
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>>36152156
Terran.
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Bump.
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>>36152156
Dominion.
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>>36139090
I disagree, for one because it will still take quite a bit of time to finish that project which is connected to the second reason: because of the feudal structure of the dominion and the weakness of the Ruling House, it is not unlikely that the Neeran might try to spark a Civil War by backing one or more of the dissenting houses and promising their support in a bid for the throne. Such an event would basically remove the dominion from the war entirely and possibly decide the war against us.

>>36152156
Because of that I vote for a posting in dominion space and working towards getting the Ruling House on board our SP torp program
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>>36155922
You crazy!? They would record everything we said or kill us within a month. To hell with the Terrans
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Dominion it is.

House Camdie
48th in line and one of the few manufacturers of splinter ammo. They sent fleets with the Expeditionary forces to fight the Warlords so you do have that in common.

The base they've provided to the Alliance was a decommissioned wreck of a place. A mostly permanent station, someone had the bright idea to expand it by grafting a mined out asteroid to it. Looking into the history of the place, it was attacked in the last major schism after which the front lines of the House shifted leaving it as a rear base. In need of repairs and more concerned with defending newly acquired systems it was shut down and services moved elsewhere.

The House has been nice enough to donate the old nuclear stockpile still being stored there. It looks like they intend to replace their own old warheads with newer models. Talking to some of the others currently back home about it they're not entirely convinced Jerik-Dremine should get rid of all their old missiles just yet. You never know when you might need some fissile material for one thing or another.

The important thing is that repair crews finished patching the last of the hull breaches and fixed any major structural damage earlier in the year.

A Shallan female by the name of Andrina Ixeini is lead piloting instructor and your second in command. Her family was granted refugee status in House Camdie space a year and a half ago after which she signed on with the Alliance. Odds are good she's committed to making sure the people that pass through here are well trained.

The base commander is all business when you arrive, no small talk. You're immediately shown the status of the ship docks and other station infrastructure along with the location of the barracks and your own quarters.

"Do you intend to have your personal starships taking up valuable dock space for months at a time? Or will they be in a parking orbit? We'll need to make adjustments to the docking lanes in either event."
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>>36159460
"well, I guess there's only one answer if you ask like that."
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>>36159646
"I apologise. My manner and language skills are not always conducive to polite conversation with most other Faction species. There were once Lunarcrete landing pads on the exterior of the asteroid. They have not been repaired but an engineering team could fix the tractor and deflector systems for some of them. The station lacks the extra personnel but your ships may have them available."

Gurin also wants to know if your training will require the use of the asteroid section of the base.
"There are passages large enough for some Battlecruisers to pass through from one side to the other. It could be useful for station cargo storage for added protection to our logistics capacity. On the other hand Major Ixeini has suggested that sections of the interior could be of use to combat training, giving pilots experience in enclosed spaces.
While the decision is ultimately mine, I have held off until your arrival as your experience in front line combat could provide more insight."


Base requisition.
While the Alliance budget is substantial it is not infinite and some equipment is harder to get hold of due to high demand.

>Memory Imprinting VS Holobooths
Both of these are useful but you're only able to get hold of one or the other at present. The one you don't pick will be added approximately a year from now.

Memory Imprinting as you're aware can be incredibly useful for imparting basic skills. These skills need to be practiced after imprinting for them to stick, but can greatly reduce the time needed to get untrained individuals up to combat ready status.

Holobooths are useful both as simulators and for R&R which can boost morale. Existing Flight simulators on base are limited to ship and starfighter piloting. Holobooths can allow personnel to go through more realistic survival training or anti-boarding drills.
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>>36159805
Holobooths is the way to go I'd say. Fun for the crews when off duty and it will always be training resource all the way up to elite status. Ofcourse Memory imprinting and Holobooths should be working together for maximum efficiency but what can you do?

"While training in enclosed space is certainly useful at times it's fairly limited. I can't remember the last time I was forced into a similar situation. If anything I've been dodging wreaks at times but that's not nearly the same as flying through a tunnel. Storage seems the better option to me as does fixing up those landing pads."
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>Training Craft
A squadron worth of newer Assault Corvettes will be available for the trainees to use. Their FTL will be disabled to prevent theft. You also have the option to assign someone to the ships to stun any pilot stupid enough to try and steal one like the Dominion does for their trainees.
Given the number of pilots that will be passing through here that does not leave much time for everyone to try their hand at the real thing very often.
Agressor craft are currently Republic Missile boats fitted with additional thrusters and holographics. They have similer performance to actual Neeran craft but are not exactly the same.

You can currently requisition additional Assault Corvettes for live training for the pilots, or you can have captured Neeran corvettes brought in for the aggressors.
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>>36159460
>he doesn't want the devourer taking up parking space
>he doens't know it's the pinnacle of offensive plasma weaponry which we could study.
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>>36160207
Devourer ain't here. You brought your Excalibur and a Gungnir type BC. You can pick it up and move it here if you want.

>>36159928
"While training in enclosed space is certainly useful at times it's fairly limited. I can't remember the last time I was forced into a similar situation. If anything I've been dodging wreaks at times but that's not nearly the same as flying through a tunnel. Storage seems the better option to me as does fixing up those landing pads."

"I'll set aside a small amount of supplies for your engineers. If you change your mind about the asteroid please inform me. It will take time before much of the space is used up."

Arriving at the administrator's office Gurin calls up a number of displays showing the surrounding territory. While you're in House Camdie territory the base is still within striking range of several surrounding Houses. As the base commander points out a few of those Houses have decided they're not going to be sending many more of their fleets to the front.

"I would like to hear your opinions on the defense of this base should there be a civil war within the Dominion.
In a worst case scenario we could find ourselves cut off from external support. While the Alliance still has agreements with some of those Houses who would like to withdraw from the conflict it would be difficult for us to get their supplies or recruits through a blockade of their space. If the other side begins to win and House Camdie is blockaded instead we would face similar problems. Regardless of any internal conflict the Alliance must continue to supply the fleets at the front with personnel and equipment.
What do your feelings on this matter?"
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>>36160597
"If we were to declare ourselves a neutral party I would hope the base would escape much of the fighting, however, I can see a house in a desperate situation forcing us to hand over any materials and ships they could use in a conflict."

In the event of a blockade it's probably best if we stick with phase cannons and other energy weapons so we can' deplete ourselves on ammo like we would with SP torpedoes. Would still do well to keep a stock of them however.
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>>36160775
>"If we were to declare ourselves a neutral party I would hope the base would escape much of the fighting, however, I can see a house in a desperate situation forcing us to hand over any materials and ships they could use in a conflict."

"If a sufficiently large force were to appear do you feel we should surrender any ships or equipment they ask for in the hopes of getting them back later, or destroy them to prevent them falling into the wrong hands?
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>>36160122
I think getting some captured Neeran Corvettes for that "Authentic Neeran feel" might be good.

I mostly agree with >>36160775 and with how we would normally get stuff to the alliance we would most likely set up escorts to ensure that the supplies and men reach their destination or at least out of the conflict zone.

If worse comes to worse and it reaches the point to were people are actively attacking alliance ships to acquire equipment for their own devises...We are very well trained in the art of raiding if that is what it takes to get alliance ships through.

Hopefully it doesn't come to that and any conflict we can handle diplomatically.
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>>36160597
"Neutrality will be the Alliances best defense in case of a civil war. Whatever they do they must not interfere by the means of military force or they will open up the Neeran front for them to attack there. If the Alliance holds itself to that neutrality then they could make requests for convoys through the space of the parts that are at war. If we are put under siege our best bet would be to pack up and get out as we can not hold very long against an enemy force of the size required to take out House Camdie."

>>36160906
"Giving into demands of blackmailing will only encourage them to do so again. However it it stands between our lives or the equipment then giving in would be the better option."
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>>36160906
"This would have to be decided on a case by case basis, depending on how trustworthy those who ask are, and just how large their force. I think our best bet in such a case might be to pack up as much as possible and flee the region. If the houses are desperate enough to loot this training base for supplies, then this is no longer a good place to train troops. In other cases it might be possible to just form an arrangement with whoever controls this region at the time and carry on, perhaps relinquishing supplies or other things."

>Look over the region, plot defense points and possible escape lanes.


>>36159805
>Memory Imprinting VS Holobooths
How much would either of these cost? We might be willing to lend the Alliance enough money to have the second option in a limited capacity as well, to be payed back in one year when the option would be installed normally.
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>>36161090
Forgot to add:
Right now I see only two options:
>Voting for memory imprints and additional Assault Corvettes
My reasoning is thus:
The memory imprints will essentially shave of the first few month(s?) of training. Sonia is an elite pilot and I think her capabilities would be wasted training people up from nothing.
If they cannot train in Holo-booths they need more ships to train in. Otherwise most pilots would just sit around, while only a few actually train.

Depending on how long the basic training takes, I might also change the vote to Holo-booths because they will be far more useful down the line.

>TSTG, how much time would the Memory Imprinting shave of from the beginning of the training?
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>>36160984
>>36160906


>"Giving into demands of blackmailing will only encourage them to do so again. However it it stands between our lives or the equipment then giving in would be the better option."

Actually we could go another way entirely. The alliance has full on training to do. What we could pull of is some increased relations with all the other training and logistics facilities in Dominion, Terran, Kavarian and Rovinar space.

Have Training squadrons form up into wings and do a tour in a simulated campaign of Raiding a sector or something like that.

It would mean we have a set number of ship points and the ships then to be cycled, us having only agressor ships and base guard and logistics ships, while the training wings are autonomous.

With proper jamming and comm gear in case of a civil war we can have multiple training wings converge on hotspots to show support and bulk up numbers in accordance to civil war fleet movements.

The constant alliance fleet shuffles that by design are meant to be as unpredictable as possible considering training would ensure that the alliance gets that effective neutrality by having it not interfere in a civil war while at the same time not being impeded by blockades, at lest for massive training wings doing mock raids, mock convoy escort, mock station hopping, mock convoy interdiction on alliance logistics lines, etc.


The cycle of all that personal would ensure that they are not only experienced in battle and tactical situation but can endure the strategical demands and at the same though cement the alliance everywhere where they are as someone who should not be messed with since they can have more than a large house fleet on your head on a moments notice.

They probably wont shoot first but they sure can look and fly menacing, considering we are going to train them.
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>>36161208
If we can talk a few other people posted in dominion space as well as terran, kavarian and republic say a dozen or so we could lead training wings in mock raids, assaults, surprise assaults, organized convoy escorts and battles etc.

And we would get more connections established, plus it would probably bring the alliance closer together at least in the Centri cluster. We could probably start to have them start a metamorphosis in a military force of their own, akin to say xcom, only fuck huge, and with their own command.
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>>36160933
>set up escorts to ensure that the supplies and men reach their destination or at least out of the conflict zone.
>If worse comes to worse and it reaches the point to were people are actively attacking alliance ships to acquire equipment for their own devises...We are very well trained in the art of raiding if that is what it takes to get alliance ships through.
"This does run the risk of endangering our neutrality but you're correct, defending our assets would become a priority."

>Hopefully it doesn't come to that and any conflict we can handle diplomatically.
"I hope so as well. I merely wish to be prepared in a worst case scenario."

>>36160984
>"Neutrality will be the Alliances best defense in case of a civil war. Whatever they do they must not interfere by the means of military force or they will open up the Neeran front for them to attack there. If the Alliance holds itself to that neutrality then they could make requests for convoys through the space of the parts that are at war. If we are put under siege our best bet would be to pack up and get out as we can not hold very long against an enemy force of the size required to take out House Camdie."
>>36161090
>"This would have to be decided on a case by case basis, depending on how trustworthy those who ask are, and just how large their force. I think our best bet in such a case might be to pack up as much as possible and flee the region. If the houses are desperate enough to loot this training base for supplies, then this is no longer a good place to train troops. In other cases it might be possible to just form an arrangement with whoever controls this region at the time and carry on, perhaps relinquishing supplies or other things."
"I will keep these point in mind."

>Look over the region, plot defense points and possible escape lanes.
You spend the better part of a day looking this over and make sure to work on it and update accordingly in the months ahead.
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>>36161090
>How much would either of these cost?
Due to current demands some of them are just not available. You could buy some in a few months though it would be at an elevated price and the Alliance would be unlikely to pay you the extra.

Given the size of the facility and the price markup 15 million.


>>36161208
>>36161323
Dominion, Rovinar and perhaps a few Terran bases might be close enough otherwise each squadron of ships are traveling for more than a couple days just in one direction. Days that their home bases are missing most of their ships.

It might work better with alliance bases just inside that same galaxy. That or if things do get bad the defense fleet of each station would have to be increased in size by an order of magnitude. The positive aspects of the plan do have potential and Commander Gurin seems to recognise this.

"While an interesting and potentially effective idea what if a base is approached while the bulk of our fleet is away?"

>akin to say xcom, only fuck huge, and with their own command.
That's basically what the Factions Alliance is at the moment. They have enough people signed on for full careers now to staff a couple of fleets just with them.
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>>36161976
>15 million
…I would be willing to lend 15 million away for most of a year in exchange for having both within a few months. Only if we are guaranteed that those will be payed back in a year, of course. Garner a bit of good-will from the Alliance and make sure our trainees come out as good as can be and all that.

>what if a base is approached while the bulk of our fleet is away?
The base itself is not worth much (comparatively), and I don't think we need to keep huge stock-piles of valuable stuff there. If we go with that plan, we would need to try and keep most of the truly valuable stuff mobile. Still not perfect, but something to consider.
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And we're apparently into Autosage.

>>36162082
>Only if we are guaranteed that those will be payed back in a year, of course.
It won't be, or not all of it. You'll only be able to get 10 million from them which is what it would have cost the Alliance to get them in at the 1 year mark. They have a budget.
If you want them in early expect to take a hit.
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>>36161976

>It might work better with alliance bases just inside that same galaxy. That or if things do get bad the defense fleet of each station would have to be increased in size by an order of magnitude. The positive aspects of the plan do have potential and Commander Gurin seems to recognise this.

>"While an interesting and potentially effective idea what if a base is approached while the bulk of our fleet is away?"

The whole point is for the Alliance not to be involved in the Dominion Civil War if it happens. So non Dominion Bases should be safe since attacking them would mean violating Terran or Rovinar sovereign territory, having their home fleets kick into gear, while on the Dominion side provoking the alliance into the fight would mean basically not some lone station but something akin to at least a medium house if not a bit more as a immediate response. Coupled with Jammers and such to keep fleet numbers hidden from potential Neeran spies and not even the houses can be certain where all the fleets are. This mobility and uncertainty allows a higher degree of security while at the same time a higher level of training for attack wings and mobile elements in tactical and strategic maneuver, mobility and deployment. It's also nice that it is basically our specialty.
>Dominion, Rovinar and perhaps a few Terran bases might be close enough otherwise each squadron of ships are traveling for more than a couple days just in one direction. Days that their home bases are missing most of their ships.

Well we could have a similar circuit for in a few other areas exported, say four areas, where each of two sides intersect, so this would be

Dominion/Roivinar main (plus the odd terran)

And once army level wings get some experience on the local circuits we could have a graduation surprise invasion of a area, both as defenders and as aggressors.

They may not have our veteran lvl in pulling such stunts but by damn they are going to be trained as close as we can.
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>>36161976

Wouldn't the act of trying to strong-arm or blockading a FA base be a defacto Act of War? If not, perhaps the FA needs to make it clear to the Dominion Houses (and everyone else) that it will be considered an Act of War, Aiding the Neeran, and potentially trigger the other Factions to say 'fuck you, Dominion House' via fleet action
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>>36162223
Would be funny for Alliance Attack Wings to be nicknamed Sonias Raiders...

You are basically establishing a obstacle course simulating our career basically. I bet you even intend to have them visit local bases or simulate it and political shit to have them solve it, or help out with patrols and coast guard bullshit.


By the time they are done they most likely are going to mark ships or tattoo shit with SR artwork or plaster our face on things. If they go with Sonias Raiders it might even get official with Alliance HQ turning the SR acronym into Space Rangers or something less personal homage and well more PR friendly.
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>>36162318
Its basically what the mobile training fleet system does. you can bet on getting a immediate response in the numbers of potentially our old six attack wings, before even something official is done. That alone should be enough to put even someone desperate into a position to reconsider, since if it gets official and we managed to establish similar circuits between say Dominion Kavarian space, Republic Terran, etc.... you can have three or more such fleets joining in in a couple of days as a second wave.

All in all way more trouble than whatever a alliance station or a training group is worth. I mean it was a good policy for us thus far, being more trouble than worth and causing more damage than it costs to have us operational, so if we can get training assets and the alliance to function halfway like that, then we are golden since no one in their right mind would want to engage into something like that, especially since they are mobile they might retreat or fade away and conserve strength if pushed off only to return with the second wave.

Thus the system of the Alliance is better left to its own devices.

Damn it and now i realize we are devising a defensive system that is viable both militarily and politically and independent of faction trouble what with circuit zones focusing on having at least two major participants in them so that they can jump the border, if necessary and swarm in if needed from all other circuits.

I
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>>36162215
>You'll only be able to get 10 million from them
This would be good enough for me, I suppose, but so far no one else has given their opinion.

>>36162318
Thing is, if someone is desperate to raid Alliance bases, it is either chaotic enough for them to silence all witnesses and get away with it, or they hope they can pay off the Alliance later and think the immediate boost in resources is worth it. The Alliance won't go to war over a single base.
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>>36162318
>Wouldn't the act of trying to strong-arm or blockading a FA base be a defacto Act of War?
Effectively.
>and potentially trigger the other Factions to say 'fuck you, Dominion House' via fleet action
At which point you have foreign fleets entering? invading Dominion territory. It's a situation most people want to avoid.

>>36162403
Do you guys want a particular unit patch for people who pass your training? I will say right now that not everyone will.

One idea I've seen somewhere was to use those who fail out as extra aggressor pilots or tutors for areas they are good in.

>Vieona Film
>Wait a year, but offer them that they can supply us with faked versions of what their secrets are, stuff like the internal layout, so that we will not spill any secrets at all where possible
Mocking up a set of the interior of the ship would likely be too complicated, time consuming or expensive when there are other options. The most similar class to film aboard would be an older Endeavour.
Your House has one, you could also pester the Terrans about it in return for more concessions?
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>>36162575
>>36162318
Yes but with the system discussed right now to do so you basically have to be a medium house committing major fleet asset to do the job, because the training fleet in a area is going to jump you before the situation is presented t, deliberated by and commanded by Alliance HQ.

By that time the circuit fleet jumped in and assumed menacing or defensive positions, and the aggressors were either stalled enough for a diplomatic solution or they opened fire and had to fight multiple wings.

And in case we have to loose a station the trainees are off base in a large safe group and we can slink away in some fast attack cruise that can punch itself out and sabotage the base or leave it bare bones, or reenact a asteroid fort with Helios siege guns, depending on how we upgrade it.
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So it looks like you guys are going to requisition the medical system upgrades for memory imprinting and pay extra for holobooths to get them early.
Objections?


Not seeing much commitment to either getting more assault corvettes or the aggressor craft.
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>>36162880
I'd say we go with agressor craft. But if they are close enough assault corvettes would be better since the other types will be phased out.

Its just that if both these options are equal in numerical value of the output, say better offense or better defense, it depends on what we want to ship out. Are we building assault corvette wings or are we training pilots to fuck up Neeran mainly and be less specialized on the ship they fly?
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>>36162591
>that pic
funny, I was just watching that.
I would have liked to have seen Montana

>Unit patch
Sounds like fun

>Film
Always fun to pester the Terrans. Bonus points if we can get that marine that gave us shit about being a Dominion Noble sent as a technical advisor (when we went to liberate Loreto. Assuming he is alive these days. If not, bug them to send the Captain of that hero ship that threatened to shoot us? I believe he is due for some shit thrown his way)
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>>36162880
Assault corvettes.

The engines were a bitch to get used to, and from what I understand what we have functions closely resembling Neeran corvettes.
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>>36162880
Given that we do not currently have enough ships to even train all our crews, I'd say go with the extra ships.
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>>36162880
I'd be okay with getting more corvettes if we have to choose. Actual neeran ships to train with seem like something that would be mostly useful for already experienced pilots. If we'll have train as many recruits as possibl,e being able to get them as many hours of actual flight is probably more useful.

Also, thanks for the thread tstg.
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>>36162963
>Are we building assault corvette wings or are we training pilots to fuck up Neeran mainly and be less specialized on the ship they fly?
Most of the Alliance Strike Wings will be equipped with Assault Corvettes since they have the best performance and compatibility. Some may pick up attack cruisers or other craft.
Once the pilots are finished training they'll be shipped out to their first assignments and will be given vehicles based on their skills and what is available. Best ships for the best people.

Here's a rough of the forward section of an ACC. The underside houses docking and repair bays to carry corvettes and other small craft for long distance flight.
The heaviest weapons are planned to be medium plasma cannons which will be mounted in turrets that are still being designed. It still has plenty of light plasma cannon turrets, SP Torpedo batteries and other weapons for defense until those are ready.
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>>36163728
I was initially shocked when I first watched LOGH at your guys suggestion and saw the drop bays used on Free Planets Alliance Carriers for their Spartanian fighters. Up until that time I hadn't really encountered many other SF settings with that sort of deployment bay other than ST:Enterprise for the shuttles, let alone on a large scale for dozens of craft.

Most of the things I've come up with for this setting over the years that seemed like original ideas at the time often turn out to have been done elsewhere 20, 30, even 40 years ago.
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>>36162976
>Unit patch
>Sounds like fun

Any ideas?
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>>36164035
In before/during Sharks
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>>36164035
A grinning maw, kind of like a stylized shark.

Or perhaps more subtle, jagged spikes that form a maw only to those who know how Sonia thinks.
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>>36164035
Something similar to the world eaters symbol but with some sort ship between the stylized teeth?
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>>36164035
Lots of lightning bolts.

Didn't want to ask again and I assume it's a terrible idea but since we're in autosage, would adding the FTL Drive plate material to plasma/phased channel shots actually do anything interesting?
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>>36163076
>Also, thanks for the thread tstg.
Thanks for being here.

>>36164240
Similar to this style emblem or the ones that look more like an Iron Gob?

>>36164381
>would adding the FTL Drive plate material to plasma/phased channel shots actually do anything interesting?
That's one of the posts i wanted to answer before but it got lost in the shuffle.
Probably not, drive plates tend to get blown up when they're shot under normal circumstances. You could still pay to have some tests done or suggest it to someone in R&D.
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>>36164035
I'll mock up a few things for the next thread, it seems
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Oh, and as it was missed.

Did J-D or RSS get first pick of the ships we salvaged? If RSS did, we could probably bring a few to this Alliance gig to add to our numbers for training
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>>36164467
I do enjoy that image for a patch and thanks for the thread TSTG!
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>>36164467
>>36164469
Something similar to that, without the spikes on the outside and bigger teeth on the inside was what I had in my mind's eye.
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>>36164467
Neat emblem

Thanks for running TSTG!
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>>36164381
Lots of lightning bolts?

>>36164469
Thank you.

>>36164615
>Did J-D or RSS get first pick of the ships we salvaged? If RSS did, we could probably bring a few to this Alliance gig to add to our numbers for training
RSS had a percentage but yes you effectively got first pick.

You guys made it clear that the newer Rovinar ship that was recovered was to be looked over by House R&D etc first.
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>>36164866
so uhh... any chance we could have some RSS pilots get rated on those Gammas?
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>>36165052
If you're buying them yes.
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Here we go. Jeez, you found 4 of them?

Some of the ships were claimed as salvage by the House trainees. In green.

Dagger CRV
>Gamma class
3x Gamma class
DHI Mk 3 Assault corvette
>Archerfish FRG
Pandora FRG (Modified)
Rovinar Balaur class
Scorpion Attack cruiser
Norune AC
>CCD AC1
CCD Fast Battleship
Alderamin / Thuban class battleship
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>>36165132
>>36165090

Well, if we can talk the House into letting us claim them...

We could probably position a few RSS pilots as aggressors/flight trainers, using them and adding to the general number of advanced corvettes for training.

Eventually, they can go join the Pandora group as scouts/escorts
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>>36165210
and I'd be fine with buying/trading out the salvage claim on the 4th Gamma, but I'm just one guy going 'ooo, idea'.

though DHI/J-D may want the 1 Gamma to use for the mk3 program or something.

>someone claimed the CCD AC
Final Destination!
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>>36165210
No love for the Scorpion AC? Didn't Daska or somebody else from our House like them a lot?

>Some of the ships were claimed as salvage by the House trainees
Seems like the made decent choices.

>CCD AC1
Awww, the next Sonia...
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>>36165329
>someone claimed the CCD AC
>Final Destination!
Unless this is intended to be an AC/DC reference you've lost me.

>>36165410
>Awww, the next Sonia...
Attack Cruiser 1 is shit. Okay it's not shit but it could be better. I'm sure it'll get an upgrade like the EX-K's did once better capacitor tech was available.

>>36165410
>Didn't Daska or somebody else from our House like them a lot?
Daska owns 3 of them because it has some different options compared to other attack cruisers. She has enough.
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>>36165542
>I don't get it
Ask Verilis about the CCD AC! (or try to put them into it)

>Daska + Scorpions

She's pulled some crazy tricks with her Scorpions
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>>36165600
You're thinking of the CCD Bulk Cruiser.

See you guys next week!
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>>36165709
Thanks for the thread, till next time!
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>>36165709
>CCD Bulk

Are we certain that all of the CCD cruisers aren't death traps?

Thanks for the thread!



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