Surprise Sunday Thread!Previous Thread: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/37006581/Our Current Stats: http://pastebin.com/iahm4JSj (Please have a look at them, but don't feel obligated to read it all in one sitting- use it as a guideline if you're drawing a blank or need some contextual information as I've essentially compiled every piece of information that's relevant to our civilization.)Last time we went through a lot of interesting events: We discovered some of the lost cultural heritage of Pre-colonial Gorgon Civilization, we came into contact with a rare and unusual moon stone that has left a very small group of our people (maybe like 15?) "Moon-touched", we made contact with the southern continent and it's Cyclopean peoples, and we suffered a tremendous blow to the Gorgon community... but through humility, hope does remain.Due to recent events a few new developments have come to your peoples attention:>+The Gorgon Eggs have Hatched+The Eggs produced and laid with the assistance of the Hydra Mother/Fertility goddess have all begun to hatch and the babies appearance is "noteworthy": Some of them possess White hair, they're all significantly quite taller and most if not all of them have otherwise unique and varied appearances that could only be possible through true sexual reproduction. They are however not crossbreeds. >+The JackFruit has been Domesticated+Related to the Breadfruit, the Jackfruit has only been observed growing wild in the New Growth that has consumed the Fungal Forest on the mainalnd. The Jackfruit has become an Important reliable food source due to the fact that it grows numerous horrendously gigantic fruits: each fruit potentially weighing in 80lb to 160lbs. The Unripe fruit has a "meaty" taste making it popular in stews and among Gorgons, the Ripe Fruit is deliciously sweet, creamy, and can be dried or eaten as is. The Fruit is typically only picked by Cyclopes- as falling fruit can potentially kill Gorgon Wives.
>>37167484>+The Elves have requested your assistance, but political upheaval remains.+The Elves are not discouraged by your reaction to the Moon Stone and if anything they are more persistent than ever- They have requested the aid of a number of your Craftsmen, Geomancers, and Astromancers for a secret project. The Terms include "Magical compensation", but the Gorgon Empire and their High priestesses uncharacteristically throws themselves upon you to request that you use this "favor" to negotiate Elven Foreign-aid so they may rebuild and reinstate control over their Civilization.The Gorgon Empire is willing to offer the closely guarded secrets of Silk production if you can do this for them. AAannndd, that's it! (Posting the new map again.)I started MUCH later than usual, so I'll wait for you guys to wander in before we start but it's the same deal as always:2 Actions. 1 Idea.Actions are d20. Ideas are d100.
>>37167525Bumpin' because surprise threads may have been a bad idea!
Rolled 7 (1d20)Some of the Moon-cyclopses hold a prayer on the Hill of the Weeping Sage, praying to the Moon for forgiveness and guidance on what happened to the Parrats
>>37167484Can you make an announcement somehow about the surprise thread, OP?
Was there a 3rd Chorus? The link you sent was for 2nd chorus
>>37167786>The link you sent was for 2nd chorusHoly shit you're right, sorry.HERE IS THE ACTUAL LAST THREAD: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/37140995/
Rolled 19 (1d20)Action: Atone for the Parrat genocide.
Rolled 12 (1d100)>>37167484Elephant carriage public transportation
>>37167836Thank God, I've been reading on the archive since last week, and I thought I missed this weeks so you just saved me. I'd like to try participating in this
Rolled 2 (1d20)>>37167525Send out parties of cyclopes with a hero to each gorgon city to reinstate control ourselves. Those Gorgons are filthy and embarrass their gods.
Rolled 19 (1d20)>>37167853supporting, and also maybe using domesticating the triceratops we have more? Maybe use them as mounts?
Rolled 16 (1d20)>>37167875hoping I can support this as well?
Rolled 66 (1d100)>>37167525Navigation?
>>37167719>>37167847>Ask for atonement and forgiveness for the genocide of the parrats.>Roll 19/20>Success +Hydra MotherThe new Gorgon babies birthed will never replace the lives lost to the curse of the Bird Demi-god seemingly summoned in the last ditch efforts of the parrats... but it was a first step in mending the hearts and minds of the people. The next was to ask for forgiveness and as a show of humility: Many Gorgon Mothers, Wives, Sisters, and Cyclopes alike go to pray and sing hymns of forgiveness and atonement. It is a solemn event and the songs of the spirits are particularly quiet that day.. But a sense of ease washes over your people and they feel it as helped.>>37167853>>37167935>Public Transportation using the Elephant and the Triceratops.>Rolling Census 19+12=31/100>Failure. -Lack necessary technologyThe Triceratop has been a welcome addition from the Gorgon stock: it's eggs are large and delicious, it breeds often, and the meat it produces is hearty....but it's too small for Cyclopes to ride upon. Gorgons may ride upon it- but the Back and spine of the Triceratops makes for uncomfortable riding. The Elephant is also too short to ride upon, but the Gorgons say it is much more comfortable seating. Your people wonder if there could be some way to have them.. pull something? Or push? Maybe? It's beyond them at this point- such inventions as the wheel or the cart are unheard of.
Rolled 48 (1d100)>>37168196We need wheel then.
Rolled 31 (1d100)>>37168196Idea- try to invent the wheel and a simple form of cart
Rolled 6 (1d20)>>37168196Lets invent the plow
How the hell did we get this far without a wheel?
Rolled 14 (1d20)>>37167525use our magical abilities/clout to help the Gorgons regain control of their Empire
>>37168492We do have wheel and lever.>+Stone Mill (Manual powered) inventedThe Stone Mill is a large grooved "bowl" construction that possess an equally large, round, smoothed "wheel". The Wheel has a handle feeding out of it that is connected to a pole feeding out of the center of the mill's "bowl". The lever can be pushed either by Hand or by Animal (Elephant, Triceratops). As the Wheel is pushed it can be used to ground up a large quantity of dried fruits and herbs- it is especially useful in making Plantain flour, Fruit alcohol, and spice mixes.
>>37168492Pretty much most of the things we have don't involve wheels. Strange, I know.
>>37168560http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/37006581/#p37009149Wheels are a thing.
>>37167875>Send out parties of cyclopes with a hero to each gorgon city to reinstate control ourselves.>Roll 16/20>High Quarter Success +Requested AssistanceThe Council of Sages has been thinking about the offer of the Elves and the counter offer of the Gorgons and they think this would be an excellent opportunity to instate and further dictate more Cyclopean influence over Gorgon Civilization. A Force of 200 Cyclops Volunteers and 15 Heroes come forth from the island communities, all eager to venture into the wretched pit of Sin that is the Gorgon Cities in an effort to bring about peace, civility, and prosperity back to their lives through "modern" Cyclopean management. Due to the unrepresented HIGH population density of the Gorgon Empire your people are only able to give assistance to TWO of the Gorgons cities, but their influence is still felt and appreciated: >+Foreign Cultural Development: Culture Shock+>Most City gorgons have gone their entire lives without seeing a Cyclopes or knowing a life beyond the walls of their city- now they're witnesses groups of them policing, providing order, relief efforts, and actively curbing crime and cleaning up their city using otherworldly magic and gentle but savage strength. Some are frightened, some are enamored, some view it as another form of colonialism.
>>37168558>>37168492>>37168560>>37168587Sorry, I may have been misleading:You don't officially have the "wheel" as WE know it. What we have is a large, round, stone with a hole through it that you push.No one has made the connection that you can put a cart or wagon on a "wheel", because all anyone ever uses it for is Milling. We don't even have pottery wheels. You guys can roll for new Actions/ideas now.
We got wheels but we don't got carts, apparently.
>>37168598Gorgon-made police-Cyclopes porns skyrocket*
Rolled 18 (1d100)>>37168638try to invent the wheel with Gorgon help (possibly the cart as well)
Rolled 88 (1d100)Architechture: Arches.
>>37169024I am all about this.
Rolled 37 (1d100)>>37168598Idea: Public education centers, for the teaching of magic and what we understand of history and mathematics
>>37169153Public education good.
We need a distinct cultural identity. Something that's a symbol for civilization, culture, prosperity, stability and progress.A thing other nations will try to emulate.
>>37169204So what you're saying is start propagandizing the shit out of everybody.
Rolled 4 (1d100)>>37168638Invent the Rudder
>>37168283>Heh heh, thats right Parrat, I am your greatest ally! Now go on and become cognizant, heh heh heh... stupid boyid...
>>37168864>try to invent the wheel with Gorgon help (possibly the cart as well)>Freebie>+Gorgon Assistance+The Wheel isn't something your people have actively used for anything beyond milling and the connection between a cart or vehicle or even the idea that you can put wheels on something and it will "move" when pushed has always been a little out there... This has not been the same story for the Gorgons. The Gorgons have been observed using such inventions as the Rickshaw: A slave or low-class Gorgon pulls a small wheeled cart for the convenience of Higher-classed Gorgons. They've also observed such innovations as Bridles and leather straps tied to the Triceratop so that it may pull a wooden cart or "carriage". These vehicles are used to move goods and people around cities and countryside.>+Wheel(transportation) Discovered, +Wagon/Cart/Carriage invented. >Essentially half of a "boat" is carved before wooden wheels on an Axle are placed underneath it- The entire thing is usually made out of wood or bamboo so that the parts are easier to replace and the vehicle may be carried or lifted if stuck. The Wagon may be pulled by a person or an Animal.>+Rickshaw accidentally introduced>The Rickshaw isn't as popular in Cyclopean culture as it is in Gorgon culture, but it is mildly popular among the Elderly and some Cyclopes enjoy taking their Gorgon sisters, wives, and daughters on rides.
>>37169204Yes and no. We just need to make it so people desire our influence.Quickest way of doing this through three things. 1. Lower caste gorgons gain prosperity trough trading with our society. This will associate us with wealth. 2. Cyclopean architechture to create aqueducts, walls and more durable housing. This will associate us with safety and stability.3. Teach them cyclopean language and writing and grant them access to cyclopean literature. Considering lot of them were illiterate before, this will establish us as the dominant cultural force.
>>3716902488, 8 is made of arches, thats like, alot of arches, man
>>37167484I was checking the pastebin and shouldn't pearls be among the Commodities?
>>37169024Arches for the arch god! He clearly favors us.
>>37169153I feel like we already established schools?
>>37169637I'm pretty sure we did though. Isn't that what the sages pretty much do? They teach reading and stuff and the craftsmen and others keep taking apperentices.
>>37169024>Architechture: Arches.>Roll 88>+Doubles+ +High end success, +Ancient Gorgon inspiration, +Racial bonus.Architecture and Stone masonry has always been a strength of your people and even though your work is little more than smoothly shaped stones to be fitted, stacked, and piled up build structures- It still does the job.The Excavation of the Gorgon Civilization though has introduced and shown new concepts: Arches, Domes, advanced stone structures.. all things your Masons, Stoneworkers, and Geomancers eagerly take notes on- Inspiration hits.>+KEY BUILDING DEVELOPMENT DISCOVERED. BRANCHING DISCOVERIES ACHIEVED+<>+Arch, +Advanced Aqueducts & +Bridge InventedWith the invention of the ARCH your people go a little crazy with what can now be built: Arches allow for grater structural stability and creativity and your workers soon reason that with the advent of the Arch they can dramatically improve how they've been building Aqueducts and may construct BRIDGES. Advanced Aqueducts are made from a series of Arches and allow for more advanced, farther, and more efficient irrigation and fresh running water available to cities due to their ability to be ELEVATED as opposed to your old Aqueducts which were little more than paved water "roads". Stone Bridges are... less significant: They're convenient, but your islands don't have many rivers or gulches to cross.
Rolled 64 (1d100)>>37169671Distinct cyclopean architechture
>>37169671But I felt that early on we established a general education so that everyone had at least a basic understanding of cyclops magic, not just specialized apprenticeships.
Rolled 93 (1d100)>>37169715Seconded
Rolled 20 (1d20)>>37169708Bring out our masons to create a "cyclopean" part of town in our gorgon communities which will help house and employ the poor.
Rolled 3 (1d20)OH hey! I was afraid I might miss this! can't believe I'm an hour late thoughCatching up on the thread but going to emphasize somethingNEED TO RESEARCH METALURGY Also I'm writing a nat-geo style series about cyclopian families from different walks of life in the quest. let me know if anyone wants to read it
>>37169824That's an idea though, so 1d100
>>37169708Shouldn't our aqueducts give a population bonus, as it would increase access to water and increase health?
>>37169850We already had aqueducts, but they were made of bamboo.
Rolled 62 (1d100)>>37169824Rolling for ideaAlso, should we take up the elves offer?We really shouldn't leave them twisting in the wind. Yes or no would probably be good.Same with the gorgons. We should really really really help them out. Maybe we could rebuild the old city? Incorporate new gorgon culture where applicable, like quickgrown fungal forest walls
>>37169944you don't really discover freemasons. They were born out of the enlightenment, desiring to spread knowledge if I remember right
>>37169153>>37169340(You Actually already have these: The Rudder at this point is a "back paddle" sort of set up and Public education already comes in the form of Public and Regular Sage assembly: where Sages have a cultural obligation and duty to tutor people.... It's why Magical prowess and Literacy are so god damn high.)>>37169529>I was checking the pastebin and shouldn't pearls be among the Commodities?((True. Added. Thank you for telling me.))>>37169769>>37169715>Distinct Cyclopean Architecture>Roll 93/100>Complete Success +Council of Sages, +Distinct Cultural PrideCyclopean Architecture has always been defined by impressive, humongous, Monolithic stone structures, platforms, tables, and other Megalithic structures: Houses are "pieced" together without mortar but with such fine attention to detail to fitting, shaping, and carving stone that they stand strong regardless. Cyclopean Architecture is very distinct: It does not look "artificial" or carved, it combines both a primitive aesthetic with purposeful smooth and crafted design using patient methods and rudimentary geomancies so that houses and monuments look both natural, ornate, and distinct:As if the stones themselves have crawled and rolled by their own volition to form into cities and temples.
>>37169939We should let the old gorgon cities stay as they are, but build right next to them with superior Cyclopean architecture. This is so future generations can see the transition from when we came to their lands.
>>37169804>>37169989By the way, by communities, I meant the "colonies"You know, the gorgon city thingies.
Rolled 28 (1d100)>>37169989Since we are going through an economic boom, I suggest we have wealthier families become patrons of cyclopean writers, creating cyclopean literature as a genre.
>>37169850>Shouldn't our aqueducts give a population bonus, as it would increase access to water and increase health?(This is actually very true, as our previous Aquaducts were "sub-par" and these new ones are QUITE fantastic))>+Advanced Public Sanitation Achieved+<>+450 Cyclopes +670 Gorgon>New Current Population: 2575(2300 Gorgon)>New Sanitation Methods have dramatically increased the cleanliness of your Cities, the availability of fresh water for even the most squalid of dwellings AND has done wonders to filter and channel out the filth. Your Communities are practically glistening communities of modernity compared to some of the places Gorgons have to live in. Some of your more Artistic and Water-homesick Cyclopes wonder if this could be used to advance Aquaculture or artificial pools.>Bring out our masons to create a "cyclopean" part of town in the Gorgon Cities which will help house and employ the poor.>Roll 20/20>Complete, undeniable success. +Gorgon PermissionThe Gorgons have provided the resources and the Cyclopes dwelling and working within the cities have provided the need and the motive: The dwellings and homes of the Gorgons are far too small, dirty, and squalid for even the shortest and desperate of your Race to dwell within and a "Cyclopes District" is requested to be built in the respective Cities your people work and police in. The Construction of these Districts draws the attention of many Gorgons as they've never seen such a spectacle or display. All able Cyclopes take part in the construction of the districts: Stones are summoned and called forth from the depths of the earth or rolled and dug up from outside of the city. They are smoothed, shaped, and formed with such meticulous care and precision before being finished with advanced Geomancies that come so naturally to your people. Villas, Public Square, Public bath, and a small "discreet" shrine are erected as to provide the conveniences your people are accustomed to.
ALRIGHT.Okay.Roll for 2 Actions and 1 Idea.Sorry if I'm a little ditsy or scatterbrained.
>>37170275What's the shrine to?Stars, sun, moon, cosmic snake, the fertility goddess? Maybe we could reintroduce pre-elven gorgon culture
Rolled 97 (1d100)>>37170295>>37170129Rerolling and praying to the stars that i get a higher roll
Rolled 19 (1d20)>>37170295FIND MORE METALS AND ORESDEVELOP NEW METAL WORKING AND SMELTING TECHNIQUES (Bronze for insistence)
Rolled 18 (1d20)>>37170295Study effects of botomancy under moonlight, with fungal and non fungal plants, with sages investigating and gorgons on hand to explain the natural flora. Maybe we can begin cultivate fungal plants for our own purposes this roll goes well
Rolled 5 (1d20)>>37170320Gonna have to join that and say we use our newlyfound cultural works to teach reading and writing to our gorgon colonies to further their ties to our little empire.
>>37170320>>37170365Agreeing with both of these.Cultural victory ho~.
Rolled 13 (1d20)>>37170275>>37170331Consensus. Also, don't forget about gems. The earth elementals would probably be a big help in this too.
Rolled 64 (1d100)>>37170129No no, its time for the cyclopean arts to flourish, there shall be patrons of the arts!
Rolled 12 (1d20)Experiment or attempt to discover paints and/or pigments.If we already have those, attempt to create murals or large public artpieces detailing scenes of life or historical events to pretty up our cities and villages. Maybe a few depictions of gods for both the cyclops and the gorgons.
>>37170432We already have all of this. They're standard parts of cyclopean culture. Mostly mineral at the moment though, don't know if we ever got the hang of plant dye
Rolled 20 (1d100)>>37170486In that case, let's ask the elves if they know of anything beyond where they're sitting at, out of curiosity. Races, land features, any significant info to know of before we decide to expand and explore the world at large.
>>37170305>What's the shrine to?((It's just a small, "general" shrine to the Star, Sun, and Moon- It isn't otherwise "activated" or adorned as it would cause obvious problems. Think of it as just those large stones we enjoy setting up- With the Eye holes in the top of them. ))>>37170320>Establish Patrons and connoisseurs of the Arts. >Roll 97/100>High end Success, +Massive Census, +Economic BoomThere's plenty of food, trade from the Southern continent has been going strong, new architectural and archaeological finds have inspired breakthroughs in cultural developments and Ancient Gods and Spirits a like have come to bless and forgive your Society. Life has never been so Good.>+Cultural Development: Writers, Sculptors, Calligraphist, inventedNow more than ever before has there been time to spend devoted to the Arts; Bamboo scrolls are common, ink and pen from ammonite and bird feather.. Cyclopes have begun writing, they've begun sculpting works of art through stone, clay, and glass. There have been distinct fusions of Magic and Mundane Craftmenship flowing into the industry of Art and people from all walks have taken note: Art is being traded, some individuals devoting their lives to it. Some particularly masterful works even being bought and imported by Gorgon High Priestesses. >+THEATER and "Actors" accidentally invented+This is something very unusual to explain: Some Cyclopes and Gorgons (enamored by Cyclopean Culture) have begun dressing up into costumes and reenacting folk-tales and historical stories through song, dance, and "acting". These take place in public squares, sometimes at the sage council, and have become quite popular seemingly over night. Many people sitting down with their families, friends, eating dried meats or roasted fruits and enjoying a "play".
>>37170623>theaterMOVIES HERE WE COME
Rolled 12 (1d20)>>37170275>>37170365Supporting and offering a re-roll.The departure of the elves has been devastating to the Gorgons, let us help improve the quality of life for them.
>>37170623>Some particularly masterful works even being bought and imported by Gorgon High Priestesses.Cultural victory here we come.
>>37170623Are these artist organized into guilds? If not, that definitely should be an action we take in the future.
Gentlemen, I propose the construction of a Wonder. Every great civilization has its own.A truly colossal monument to our gods rising from the ocean. Part temple part statue it could have chambers above and below the tidelines, promoting coral growth as well.Topped by a massive statue of our personal god entwined with the Gorgons Cosmic Snake. Holding aloft our beacon of knowledge and hope
>>37170739why? Guilds don't seem necessary. just let people do what they want is working out pretty good
>>37170768let's not get ahead of ourselves. I'd much rather we dedicate those resources towards something practical.
>>37170739Nah. I'm sure they'll do that on their own if it's needed.What we should do (later) is have opera or something similarly high culture.These current plays are fine and shouldn't be looked down upon, but there needs to be a higher form of art that everyone looks up at.
>>37170777Yeah, but I think that organizing these artisans will encourage more people to become artisans, ergo increasing our culture even more.
>>37170768I rare we go for a Great Library like wonder, its more fitting for our culture and we can ride on the cultural explosion we are having right now.
>>37170768A great lighthouse sounds good. Make a big glass lens and power it with magic.
>>37170817>>37170791>>37170768How about a Great Hospital for the healing of bodies and of the nations.
>>37170817This is an excellent idea, let's do it.
>>37170836We already have lighthouses, though.Let's go towards medieval wonders. Something like the Sistine Chapel or Globe Theater.>>37170850This is good too.A grand hospital university that heals, educates, and innovates.
>>37170864I don't think we do have lighthouses. I may have missed it but I'm pretty sure.
>>37170864We should develop flying buttresses. Get Cyclopean Notre Dame.
>>37170863>>37170817Yeah, also think of the bonuses for future projects. The accumulation and study of current knowledge naturally leads to the creation of new knowledge.
>>37170850Good ideas but I recommend we table this discussion until the gorgon situation stablizes.We can't really annex the cities, the cyclops would be outnumbered. And we don't have the resources to do it eitherI recommend we should reintroduce old gorgon culture and try to help the people maneuver around the caste system
Rolled 2 (1d20)Offer to purchase bankrupt Gorgonian papermaking shops and have them churn out paper for our civilization.
>>37170884From the pastebin:>Stoneworking and Masonry is surprisingly advanced: Megaliths, Walls, Towers, primitive light-houses, two-storied buildings, roads, and Temples all built with relative ease
Rolled 8 (1d20)>>37170912Ooh, I like this idea.
Maybe we should categorize wonders better.Religious wonders like the Sistine Chapel.Military Wonders like a massive fortress, shipyard, or academy.Scientific wonders like a grand hospital or university.Industrial wonders like a massive ironworks.Cultural wonders like the Globe Theater.I can't think of any other categories.
>>37170912>>37170932Only thing is gorgons don't like our currency of ivory rings.The only thing of value they want from us is gold
>>37170934A wonder is a once a civilization kind of thing, absolutely staggering in size compared to any other.
>>37170959Then clearly they don't understand the power of our currency yet. After all, it's backed by products and services the gorgons both need AND want.
>>37170331>Discover more Metals and Ores>Roll 19/20>Complete Success +Influence of the Southern Continent.It came in the hull of a large Ship bearing imported goods from the Southern Continent.With ropes and Muscle they bring their precious and coveted item: A large, bumpy, cater-dotted, black, shining, wrinkled piece of ore. About the Size of a Bear it sits there on the Docks.The Merchants are scolded by their Wives, "You traded everything for THIS?" They couldn't help it they said, the Stone, nay the ORE- was a Gift from the Farthest Stars they said and they possessed a Strange fascination with it.The Sages and Geomancers come to view the Strange ore from the south- to sing a few Hymns and hear what sweet earthly songs it might resonate back.The Ore, it..It does not resonate properly, it's rhythms are foreign and the Song it echoes back is completely undiscernable and at the worst almost nauseating to listen to. They request that it be taken away, but the smiths unfortunately get a hold of it.It's Smelted, Tempered, Worked, Processed, and re-processed. They delight at the ease of how it can be worked, they marvel at the quality of Iron tool is produces and lo: Spades, Chisels, Hammers, Axes, Spears, they produce all manner of tool, but all of them hold onto themselves a most twisted, writhing, and bumpy physical appearance despite their high functioning quality. One Craftsmen against the wishes of the Sage produces a Medium: a great twisted and uncomfortable looking rod- The Hymns and Songs it resonates are so utterly disgusting the Medium is forced to be smelted back down.>+Meteorite Iron Discovered+>Rained down from the cosmos, embedded in the IceShelves of the Southern Continent and imported into your lands- This strange imported metal easily makes high quality tools, but it's magical properties are as of yet strange and disheveling.
>>37170961I know, but having the OP call a vote for a wonder might get disorganized as to what we'll build.Deciding on the kind of wonder we want might be better than trying to settle on what form it will take.
>>37170934Universities doesn't make sense right now, while we have public education by the sages, we lack any real educational institution. We should devolved schools of thought and a class of individuals dedicated to education (tutors) first.
>>37171034Not bronze but pretty good.
>>37171127We're going to have to work with it more if we are to put it to any use. It sound now like we can't really use it since the mages hate it.
Rolled 12 (1d20)>>37171034Construct a cyclopean market in the cyclopean quarters in order to demonstrate the power of our currency.
>>37171178We could try mixing it with the metals we're more familiar with.
Rolled 12 (1d20)>>37171178Have a new meteorite rod whipped up, have the twoheaded cyclops that were mutated by the moon rock interact with it
Rolled 15 (1d20)Lets have a diving expedition into deeper waters, lets see if we can find anything new and interesting.
It's not time for rolling yet.
>>37171288Merfolk contact expedition would be something I'd get behind in
>>37171337>>37171288That sounds dangerous with Chuthullu and his mermen down there
>>37170357>Further Study and Document the Effects of Botanomancy using Astromancy.>Roll 18/20>Complete Success +Gorgon AssistanceAstromancy and Botanomancy are two very difference magical practices: Botanomancy is a more "applied" hymn that evokes emotion and the sympathies of the plants- Plants possessing an elemental spirit, but at the same time their own song and not actively resonating like that of "pure" elements. The Fungal Forest however is unresponsive to the Hymns you've been preparing and using for traditional plant life: No matter how much emotion, poetry, or depth of song and tone.. the Fungi do not respond. They are however responsive to Astromancy(?)Astromancy is a longing and distance Hymn sung to the Stars, the moon, and even the sun at time to beckon forth their power, fury, favor, and so forth. Using the very celestial bodies themselves as Focuses or mediums.>+Gorgon Empress herself+Your Council of Sages makes the commute to one of the major cities your people are currently supporting and there they request a Council with the High Empress of the Gorgon empire herself and her council of High Priestesses. The Priestesses are at that moment a bit taken back by such an audacious request, but the empress seems more than okay with it. "So the One-eyed Men wish to Know the secrets of Mud and Moss? Very well!"She is truly an ordained woman: Gold accessories, piercings, Tattoos and jewelry covering her body- even the serpents in her long black hair have golden bracelets. She is a Giant woman, bred and built to rule, to breed, and dominate lesser woman before her- She's actually tall enough to be eye-level with the chests of your people.(part 2 incoming)
Rolled 18 (1d20)>>37171440I roll to seduce the empress.
>>37171440"Whether it holds any truth or is merely a convenient lie- it does not matter whether the Elves "truly" come from the Moon or not, as the method for divination and control of the Fungal wood remains the same. JFor "True" dominion over Fungal-life a pact with the Moon be made for Control over the Fungal wood."The Gorgon Empress goes on to demonstrate- her medium is a very small piece of Moon rock fashioned into a snake eye in the figurehead of a Fungal wood rod carved in the image of a Snake. She Brandishes the Rod- extending her arm, and the Fungal Garden of her Courtyard germinates, extends spores, and grows in real time before the dull, pale, glow of the rod.She then waves your people away, "Go, I welcome your interest and assistance, but tire of your presence. Please help yourself to any of the Temple Maidens on your way out; They need to be broken in anyway." >+Druidism Discovered+<>Druidism is an Applied form of Magic: Individuals may make symbiotic "pacts" with sufficiently powerful spiritual entities and beings where in: Access to powerful inspiration and greater resonation is offered in exchange for greater access to the earthly realm through ones body as a physical agent. >+Branching Discovery+>The Gorgon Empress said a pact with the Moon is possible, but your people wonder if it is only limited to the Moon as there are numerous other spiritual entities, beings, and so forth she may be ignorant to.
Rolled 3 (1d20)>>37171685Use some temple maidens
>>37171685>Please help yourself to any of the Temple Maidens on your way out; They need to be broken in anyway.Jesus we really need to set them straight on how wrong they are about us.
>>37171685((Druidism is used as just a "general" term to better allow you to understand the implications. Mechanically it's still divine magic.))Aaaand, that's three!You may now Roll for 2 new Actions and 1 new Idea.OR.I've been noticing you guys want to work on a Wonder?We could work towards that- but it would eat up a turn, resources, and your economy would be no longer "booming".It would however obviously be potentially amazing and cool.
Rolled 17 (1d100)>>37171820Build a great library for the collection, study and translation of written works.
>>37171820Its time to build the great cyclopean lighthouse, to make sea travel safer, encourage trade, and serve as a great symbol of cyclopean civilization.
Rolled 42 (1d100)>>37171872forgot to roll
>>37171820i say we focus on other things for now. Wonder can be built later.We still need to do more this turn, like studying weather, or developing music. We don't have any music at the moment guys.
>>37171901hmmm, I thought we had hymns and stuff?
>>37171872>>37171820backing the lighthouse idea
Rolled 2 (1d100)>>37171847Let's combine this with a temple. Temple Grounds of the major Cyclopean and Gorgonian gods and goddesses, along with a massive library of all collected works of each culture, along with meeting/lecture halls.Going to support this.
>>37171820>>37171872>>37171847I would like to second both of these ideas
Rolled 7 (1d100)>>37171927I like that idea.
>>37171820I don't think we should end our economic boom just yet.Rolling to improve our ironworking. especially make sure that it can interact with the mages without issue.
>>37171820>>37171872Consensus. It makes perfect sense for an island-based cyclopean culture.
Rolled 56 (1d100)>>37171927>>37171900>>37171847Yikes, with these low rolls, I say instead we opt to create a larger sea worthy ship and send it to the north to explore.
>>37171923Non magical music I mean
Rolled 12 (1d20)>>37171685Attempt to make pact with the sun.
Rolled 93 (1d100)>>37171927I second this one.We already have >>37171872
>>37171961Ooh neat. Like the dragon ships of chinaGood ideaare there any ways of finding out more about the gods the gorgons used to worship?
Rolled 17 (1d100)>>37171990Thats a good roll, I'll roll for the lighthouse too
>>37171990I like this. Should I add another roll? It's already a really good one.
Rolled 41 (1d100)>>37172033>>37172053Ok. Here we go
>>37172063>>37172015>>37171990>>37171900I bet this lighthouse is gonna keep the mermen up at night or something.
>>37172088Wait...>>37171990 is for the temple/library, as well as >>37172063...
we don't really need a giant lighthouse though. There aren't any ships wrecking themselves are there?
Here, the way I see it at this point in time there are Two possible options/Wonders we could build at this point in time:>The ArcanumThe Arcanum would be an incredibly massive Library or university like creation of: possessing large temple gardens with beautiful and well mannered flowering trees and plants to wander through, as well as running water into artificial ponds that would all facilitate calm and tranquil contemplation. The Main features however of the Arcanum would be it's expansive and meticulously compiled archive of every available Magical and Technological scripture, Hymn, and scrap of knowledge available to your people- for complete public access as well as the construction of a horrifyingly massive and sufficiently advanced Monolithic monument.>The Lighthouse.Built from stone pulled out from the Ocean and the efforts of the finest stone Masons and Geomancers your people have managed to produce. The Lighthouse would potentially be one of the tallest Humanoid-made Structures known to either Cyclopes or Gorgon and would be such a shining beacon over the ocean- it's light would be seen for miles and not only benefit trade, but would also be a visible symbol of your peoples mercantile and engineering might. They will all have unique results, benefits, and outcomes but ALL of them will eat up all your excess resources. These do NOT require a roll- only a vote.
>>37172136The seas are rough and often stormy, this'll further facilitate the trade in the south.Plus we're trading and making profits, why not up our trade game?
>>37172159Would the arcanum hurt gorgons?
>>37172159light house first, then later we'll make that big ol' library, it'll stick with the Alexandira theming.
>>37172159The Arcanum.I do want to do the Great Lighthouse later.
>>37172186I want to know this before I cast my vote.
>>37172159Keep in mind, guys, the Lighthouse could draw attention... of the unwanted kind.
>>37172159Aaaagh tough choice.Asuming we'll be able to build other at a later date, I'll vote>The Lighthouse
>>37172186Are the white haired gorgons immune to the fainting spells?
>>37172159>The ArcanumMore knowledge and magic? Yes please
>>37172159>The ArcanumAs much as I like the lighthouse, I'd rather boost culture and magic rather than trade right now.
SORRY, SORRY. I should have mentioned: Wonders have CONS as well as PROS.>>37172186>Would the arcanum hurt gorgons?Yes and no. "Native" Gorgons who have been born and raised in your culture their entire lives would be a little buzzed by it, but they'd be fine.Immigrants, oh my yes- very much yes. Even looking at it would give them a headache.I mean, the Lighthouse obvious con is you're building a Gigantic lighthouse middle-finger to spurn the deep ocean.
Guys, lighthouse first to boost our economy, then arcanum.
>>37172298we don't have a navy, so I vote for arcanum
>>37172296VOTE NO ARCANUMLIGHTHOUSESAVE GORGONS
>>37172296So would white haired Gorgons be the least bothered by it? Since they can actually breed now instead of cloning they should be getting better at magic too right?
>>37172296Damn. Maybe we should build the Arcanum on our main island or North Island then.Poor gorgons.
Lighthouse. Can we send an ambassador tothe mermen to explain what we're doing and why before hand?
>>37172296>The Arcanum still want this one more
>>37172296So we're either screwing over the gorgons or the merfolk.Great.
>>37172331don't build it at all
>>37172320There are many cyclops villages that the gorgons can live in. We're also improving the living conditions of the gorgons in their homeland.
Voting for No wonder construction at this timeInstead focus on normal actions and idea
>>37172296Then I vote we build no wonders until we've sorted this problem with the gorgons and magic and have established relations with the merfolk.
>>37172364that's making them second class citizens in all but name
Rolled 10 (1d20)Guys, why don't we just put off the mega project and just do some smaller things for now?I vote we artificially expand the island via landfill a bit.
>>37172378I vote this.We need more time now that we know the consequences.
>>37172389Hardly, the gorgons that have been born and raised in the cyclopean nation have no problems. Ergo, those that have been succesfully assimilated to our culture can live in our capital.
>>37172199>>37172209>>37172228>>37172230>>37172246>>37172269>>37172281>>37172293>>37172316>>37172343Arcanum passed.Construction and Finishing will be posted in next post as well as benefits and ramifications.>No Wonder vote>Don't harm the gorgonsI will take these feelings into consideration and the finalized construction of the "Arcanum" to make it more Gorgon Friendly.WONDER HO'.
>>37172359Shush, we can build it after we integrate all the Gorgons into our soceity and get them used to our magic.
>>37172209>>37172159I guess I'll change my vote to the Great Lighthouse.We'll have to work on magic resistance for gorgons in the meantime.
No mega builds, we have been lucky in dodging bad disasters so far but we can't keep pushing our luck constantly.Either of these mega builds can be the straw that breaks the elephant's back right now, why don't we ride this gravy chain for more good, that way we can pad ourselves for a shitstorm better if it goes south..
>>37172446Normally, I'd ask forr a re-vote since most of those we're made before you brought up the drawbacks, but I'd rather not delay things.
>>37172446I'd have preferred we find a way to make the gorgons more magic friendly rather than gimp our wonder, but oh well.
>>37172446Go on full ahead with the Arcanum, with it we can research the reason why gorgons are so sensitive to magic.
>>37172389You're looking at this all wrong. Through the construction of the arcanum, it's proven that the cyclopean seed grants, if not higher magical potential, at the very least, higher magical resistance.The baker girl from capital shall trump the empress of the gorgon society in magic.
>+The Arcanum+<The Sages Council is called forth, the book keeping is laid out, designs are drawn, craftsmen, masons, stoneworkers, gold smiths, farmers, engineers, and all forms of Cyclopean walks of life are called forth to attend the council of the "Wondrous construction". The plan is put into motion: The Capital city that lay upon the home island, the largest city known to Cyclops kind will be completely refurbished, resigned, remodeled, and re-built to erect your civilizations mightiest creation - The Arcanum -.The Arcanum's construction begins with walls, mounds, elevation, and a great naturally formed towering multi-platformed Ziggurat being built upon the heart of the home islands city. There, Foundations are built, Arches constructed, Aquaducts re-aligned and improved, and the entire city is upgraded with the very heart of it- The Megalith built so long ago- is dragged up to the top of the monumental city redesign. At the very absolute Center of the Arcanum a Great Monolith is erected; finished in Gold, wrapped in belts of iron, and sitting in the middle of a great pool that flows into and connects all fresh running water within the city. A dense, thick, groomed, garden of blossuming trees and flowers is cultivated- part of the "Old growth" law, allows it to wrap around the entire city in layered levels of scenic and beautiful Jungle Gardens. The flowing Waters assist it's growth and sooner than later the Arcanums own Jungle is abuzz with the sound of tropical birds, as it swells with all manner of life.The finishing touches on the Arcanum involving the compiling, crafting, and working of numerous Arched and pillar supported halls equipped and carved with dozens of compartments, shelves, and storage space for thousands of compiled Scrolls and Stone & Clay Tablets. When it is finished- the Halls of the Arcanum are so wide and open that entire audiences of people may sit on lectures, sage councils, or observe plays. 2nd post inc
Ideas on how to make our economy boom again?
With the finished construction of the Arcanum a number of new developments have happened:>+Population Doubles: Advanced City and Gardening design and planning.>New Current Population: 5150 (2300 Gorgons)With the complete refurbishment and redesigning necessary to incorporate the construction and splendor of the Arcanum- it has allowed your "old" city to be designed much more efficiently. Not only incorporating more modern Aqueducts, roads, and buildings- but also for the implement of more fluid urban and old growth gardening. All these developments keep the city cleaner, house more people, feed them, and make everything significantly more organized. >+Mural to the Hydra Mother+ Gorgon District built.>+Gorgons now living on Home island:+/-Gorgon population Triples from native Births.>New Current Population: 5150 (6900 Gorgons)The City has also seen the construction of a "Gorgon" district: using left over material and ordained and iconifed with a mural and stone statue of the encoiled image of the Great Hydra mother- Her tail flowing into the head of the cosmic snake as it pours water to feed into their end of the Aquaduct. There is now a sizable population of "Native" Born Gorgons- Gorgons whom have never known culture or Civilization beyond that of Cyclopean modernity and whom are iconic for having freckles, as well as black or white hair.>-Economy Boom ended<>You've completely blown through your coffers and all excess resources have been consumed.>-Spirited empowerment->The Waters and Jungle that flow through your city.. the halls of the arcanum and even the city itself..they hum with a loud and constant resonation of a song that is both pleasant, but at the same time constant. The voice of the spirits cannot be escaped: Hymns can be done effortlessly, but at times some particularly devoted individuals can find themselves losing sight of what is and isn't reality as the ethereal realm of spirits spills into the physical realm.
>>37172720>>37173035Its beautiful, Carl Sagan could approve. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jixnM7S9tLw
>>37173035>freckled gorgonsMuh dick
Rolled 67 (1d100)Tithing
Rolled 55 (1d100)>>37173035Research Gorgons new reproductive ways
>>37173087That's not going to improve our economy.We should focus on providing new goods and services.
>>37173010More trade, stone roads to the gorgon cities to facilitated travel and commerce. Also some sea exploration to new lands and people to establish new trade partners.
>>37173114It would put money to our coffers. Also, unlike taxation, it's optional.
Shouldn't the mainland gorgons have taught us how to make silk by now? We rebuilt and improved 2 of their cities.
>>37173010Invent simple machinary?It could save us money on construction and lead to interesting magical devices.
>>37173035>>37172720Aaaaaanddd- I think with the completion of the Arcanum it might be a good time to call it a night! I'm super tired and this was meant to be a "short" session.The Thread is archived, so please go vote: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.htmlI'll be updating the stats: http://pastebin.com/iahm4JSj and sticking around to answer any non-spoilery questions you guys might have.Thank you all for coming out and I hope everyone has enjoyed this "surprise" Cyclops civ quest!
>>37173157Thanks for running.At what stage of development is our civilization at, comparatively?What are some problems our civilization faces that aren't being resolved? What are the people complaining about?
>>37173153Or better yet, start selling enchanted items.
>>37173188That's definitely a good idea. We should export our enchanted items.Perhaps find a few enchantments that are safe and simple for medusa to use and then sell them by the truckload.
>>37173182Looks like Classical age.I just realized... if the Parrats are planning something sinister... the Arcanum might be a perfect target to demoralize us.
>>37173267It might be good to counter them.Perhaps have statues of parrats with trays of candy on them. Anyone can take candy from them. It's for medusa and cyclops children to take, on the honor system.The parrats will see the statues and the candy and perhaps consider us to have learned our lesson.
We've got 3 options here. 1. We increase the buying power of our currency by increasing demand for our currency2. We decrease the cost of goods and services while keeping employment level same. 3. We cut into a new market (elves, merfolk or new industry)
>>37173267Well we did try to atone a bit early in the thread. Hopefully it helped enough to make them a little more forgiving of what we did.
>>37173267Weren't the parrats purged by nat20?
>>37173188>>37173209Enchant the ivory rings with useful poems or song lyrics (cantrips)
>>37173308The merfolk will have a demand for manufactured goods that resist water well.Perhaps enchant silk to be more resilient in water and more hydrodynamic, then trade that with the merfolk? Or perhaps enchant iron not to rust.
>>37173327Almost, until they got a demi-god on their side.
>>37173327Parrat Moses led his people to the promised land.A land of alcohol and bananas.
>>37173308I'd like to break into the gem market, if we can find a good source that is. They're bound to be valuable and there's no telling what various types of crystal might do for our magic.
You know, we could try an alternative solution. Use arcane magics to create scrolls of magic that are one use, which provide the average gorgons access to magic in exchange for goods and services.
I like how this is turn up. We have a very culturally strong but enlighten society. My only minor worry is the new increase in Gorgon population. We may want to encourage more Cyclops marriages and many be train a Gorgon sage to add to the council.
>>37173401We have methods to store hymns already.
Idea. Research various spice products and begins spice trading with elves, gorgons and snow cyclops.If that don't put our economy back on track I don't know what will.
>>37173448I think spices are already part of our standard and trade.
>>37173467Stock and trade*
>>37173480Yes, but we have not developed many products based on spices.
>>37173496Maybe we should develop fine cuisine that will be the envy of the world.
>>37173509OR! we make preservatives, magical or otherwise as this will put all perishable goods on all trade routes AND increase their value.
OP, what would the benefits and detriments of building the great lighthouse have been?
>>37173148>Shouldn't the mainland gorgons have taught us how to make silk by now? We rebuilt and improved 2 of their cities.The Gorgons are the kind of people who are all to familiar with, "If you never mention it, we'll assume you've forgotten it and we can move on." The Empress doesn't actively respect your people very much.>>37173448>>37173467You don't actually have any unique spices: all your spices have come from Gorgon stock, so it isn't likely they'd want to trade with you for something they already have.Your current hottest item with the south is Dinosaur Eggs.Your current hottest item with the Gorgon Empire is you helping them.>>37173597>OP, what would the benefits and detriments of building the great lighthouse have been?It would have dramatically increased trade, and increased your tech in a few new ways.It would have however attracted the attention of Ocean dwelling forces.