Psychic Rebel Thread 12You are Shee Hyul, rebel and psychic. Your world is ruled by inhuman creatures and this has gone on far too long, it’s time to fight back.Character Sheet http://pastebin.com/fYSgcZdERules http://pastebin.com/LEEi5A3uSetting http://pastebin.com/95D5RNhPAllies http://pastebin.com/yVgtiFeuAlly Powers http://pastebin.com/Xm6UGDyXQM Twitter https://twitter.com/anAspiringQMQM Askfm http://ask.fm/AnAspiringQMOld thread >>37305209After dinner you find Dev, Rhydian and Rainya. Lirael follows behind you.“Yo what’s up Shee?” asks Dev, smiling at you, Rhydian just gives you a nod, Rainya grins at you.“I’m going to build the comm.. relay I was talking to Charun about” you explain “I wondered if any of you want to help?”They all look at one another.“I’d love to” says Dev “But I don’t know tech – if you need something pulled apart for you, I can help, but technology is really your thing.”Rhydian just snorts “No” he says “I can sneak and steal, but building stuff is your thing, besides, it won’t work anyway.” What a cheerful soul...Rainya just looks at them, then at you “I don’t mind” she says “Though I’m not too good at building stuff either.” True, she isn’t, but she didn’t mind holding tools for you and did what you asked without complaint.And of course there is the need for components...finding stuff in the facility will be easy, but who do you trust with that secret?Finding stuff in Dust Town will be hard, but maybe if you all work together you can do it. Charun probably won’t mind you working in his shed. Building a suitable comm. relay should only take you a couple of hours with the right parts.Invite to help you?Dev>Y/NRhydian>Y/NRainya>Y/NWork where?>Research Facility>Dust Town
>>37309290Dev and Rainya>Y>Research FacilityWill definitly need some pulling aprt.
>>37309290YNY>Research FacilityOur tools are there after all. Plus less prying eyes.
Perhaps we should try to seek the favour of the Mirror god and hopefully activate a power that helps us against mind reading, rather than activate a power for that purpose? Not today since getting that relay done would be useful, but in future.Now isn't the time for revealing secrets. >Invite only Rainya>Research Facility
>>37309290Dev>YRhydian>NRainya>Y>Research FacilityLets get in one at a time.
>>37309290Dev>YRhydian>NRainya>YWork where?>Dust TownWe can just excuse ourselves and teleport to the facility to get parts if some prove dificult to find in town.
>>37309348I will agree to that on the last day, if we haven't gotten anything for that purpose by that point.I'm very loath to make the gamble of asking the Mirror for a gift, largely because I have no real idea what he could ask for in exchange.
>>37309384Welp, we can always refuse his offer. Doing it the last day will ramp up the time urgency however. Which will make us desperate. Better to do it earlier than later I think.
>>37309433Its a slight cost of opportunity, but I think we have fair chances to get another another favor with the Mirror before then.Its really hard for me to think of write-ins for him because his domain isn't really clear.
>>37309500Act like somebody else, mirror an opponent's tactics against them. Master a skill you've never used before? I can't really think of anything else.
>>37309521I guess trying out something new to deal with a situation and taking the middle route between two options.The explanation of the Fortune Teller ended up not being very useful.Especially the Mirror largely gave us only for being blatantly opportunistic, which she didn't mention at all.
“Ok Rhydian” you say “No one is forcing you to come.” Rhydian wanders off. To Dev you say “I’d love to have you and Rainya along, I’m sure there’s some stuff that will need pulling apart.”Dev shrugs “Ok” he says and follows as you lead him, Rainya and Lirael back to your house “Are we here to pick something up?” asks Dev.“We’re here” you say, beckoning him close until you can touch all three of them “To catch our ri-”“-de” you finish, in the Research Facility Dorms, whew, you sit down on a bunk, damn Dev is *heavy* - carrying him and Rainya and Lirael was a chore, maybe next time you’ll take two trips?Rainya and Lirael are fine, long since having gotten used to this.Dev...Dev stares around in wonder “What happened?” he asks, looking around, then focusing on you, a look of fear in his eyes “Shee what are you? Are you...” his voice lowers “One of the Gifted? Did you turn traitor or something? Where are we?”“We’re at a research facility” you say “As for what I am...”What do you say?>Truth>Vague>Lie (this pleases Baalzamon) >Other (what?)
>>37309614>TruthNot even sure what we would lie we would tell here.
>>37309614>TruthJust to be sure "Truth" means here that we have psychic powers? Nothing more?
>>37309614>Lie (this pleases Baalzamon)>>37309629COnsidering ther eis no write-in asked, I don't think we have to come up with something.
>>37309614>PsychicNot the whole God speech.
>>37309614Psychic actually, like being gifted but its more or less natural, this facility was once used by humans to fight the Fae by training psychics and the like. Now I use it as a home away from home. We can build the relay here with no prying eyes.
>>37309652No, the point isn't we need to come up with something. I have no idea what lie Shee would tell here that would benefit us telling.Or even tell at all.
>>37309614>Truth>>37309665Seconding this too
>>37309678Trust the QM then?
>>37309712Nothing to do with trust, and everything to do with seeing no point in telling a lie, when I can't think of anything worth fabricating.I can't think of any claim we could make that would benefit us.
>>37309752The point is not letting secrets out while gaining favor.
I'm actually curious, what would we have said if Lie had won?
“I’m a psychic” you say “It’s like being one of the Gifted but natural, a fae didn’t give me my powers. This facility was built to train psychics to fight the fae during the war, now..I use it as a home away from home.”“Oh” Dev says eloquently, looking at Rainya and Lirael he asks “And everyone is ok with this?”“Sure” says Lirael“Why wouldn’t we be?” asks RainyaDev straightens up “Ok, then I am ok with it too.” Though his left hand is trembling a bit.“C’mon” you say “Lets grab some computer parts.”You spend some time finding everything you’ll need to build a portable comm. relay and then you start putting it together, talking to everyone as you do so, might as well try to teach them something. “Ok so this is the power supply, heat sink...”As you work you occasionally send one of the others away to fetch a tool or parts, or some of the nutritious but horrible dried food here.When Lirael is playing on her datapad and Rainya is away fetching a circuit board for you, Dev asks quietly “So what else have you been hiding?”Have you been hiding secrets?>Nothing else>I can’t say>Make up a joke secret (write in or default)>Tell him a secret (what?)>Other (what?)And roll 1d20+8 for relay-making
>>37309830>Nothing else (that concerns him)
Rolled 6 + 8 (1d20 + 8)>>37309830>Make up a joke secret>Im actually a man>Seriously though, I have a right to my own secrets. And this here, wasn't even my secret, it was Charuns
Rolled 18 + 8 (1d20 + 8)>>37309830>"trade, I'll tell you a secret if you tell me one."
>>37309830>I'm your father.>But seriously, if I have another secret or not doesn't concern you. Keepy our nose out of people's business.
Rolled 10 + 8 (1d20 + 8)>>37309830>Nothing else (that concerns him)>this here, wasn't even my secret, it was Charuns
>>37309878I like the "I'm actually a man"Use it to deflect the question entirely. Rather than outright saying I have a right to my own secrets though.
>>37309830>Make up a joke secret>Im actually a man/your father>this here, wasn't even my secret, it was CharunsMaybe we get favor for deflectingI kid, I kid.
>>37309830>Make up a joke secret >I'm actually a man> In all honesty thought this was Charun's and my father's secret, I'm showing you this because I trust you, and with teleportation it's nigh impossible to find.
>>37309830>>37309902Changing to>>37309925So its clearer.
>>37309949>my father's secretNow thats too much information again for my taste.I just want to sow some dissent in the ranks, not reveal any of our actual secrets.
>>37309830>>37309886I'll second that.
You turn to Dev, utterly deadpan “I’m actually a man”“What?” he says, tilting his head in confusion.“Several men in fact” you continue “They talk to each other via the Wire and decide what I should do, which explains some of my poorer decisions.”There’s a pause, then you both laugh.“Seriously though” you say “this place was Charuns secret not mine, and isn’t it rude to ask a girl all her secrets, what, you want my weight and bra-size next?”Dev back up, hands held up “I was just trying to figure you out” he says “You can be pretty mysterious, no offence.”“Right” you say with a smile, continuing to work on the Relay. In only a few short hours it’s done – you test it and it works and can handle transfer a lot of data quickly.Rainya and Dev give you a round of applause and Lirael gives you a beaming smile, hugs you and says “That’s my Shee” hah cute kid, she’s getting possessive.You check the time, it’s late but you have a couple of hours before you need to turn in, what do you want to do?>Work on your Warmech>Activate a new psychic power (this pleases Jagganatha)>Seek the favour of one of the Five (which?)>Just chat with everyone>Explore the facility>Other (what?)
>>37310067>Just chat with everyoneGet to know everyone better.
>>37310067>>Seek the favour of one of the Five (which?)Balzaamon
>>37310067>Just chat with everyone
>>37310067>Just chat with everyoneSocial links get. Or so I've heard. Over the wire.
>>37310067>Just chat with everyoneTime to get to know the crew.
>no favor for deflectingDamnit, at least now we know whos champion we won't be facing. Mirrors, because no one could figure out how to get his favor.
>>37310067Seek the favour of the Five.Mirror or Balzaamon.
The four of you settle into one of the dorms and spend the rest of the evening chatting, the topic roams all over the place and you find out that Dev is close to his parents and both are still alive – rare for Dusters of that age. You find out that Rainya is terrified of bugs and that Lirael really misses ice-cream. Maybe you can take her for some in the Hive one day.As you chat late into the night, you can steer the topic of discussion if you like. Is there anything you want to know about your companions?>The mission ahead>The Fae>The Rebellion>The future/life after the rebellion>Romance>Other topic (what?)And of course, they’ll expect you to tell them similar things about yourself, how do you plan to respond?>Honestly>Vague>Lie (this pleases Baalzamon)>Other (what?)
>>37310587>The mission ahead>The Rebellion>Be honest about topics of personal life, except religion>Vague and Lie about everything concerning your current life outside the job. Its kinda hard to make a call on this without knowing what topics.
>>37310587>The Fae>The Rebellion>Lie
>>37310587>The Rebellion>The future/life after the rebellion>Honestly
>>37310587>The Fae>The Rebellion>Lie (this pleases Baalzamon)
>>37310587>The mission ahead>The Rebellion>HonestlyI'm gonna assume its nothing sensitive.
>>37310587>The mission ahead>The Fae>The Rebellion>Honestly
>>37310587>The mission ahead>The Fae>The Rebellion>HonestlyUnless it is a secret that could hurt us.
>>37310587>>37310624Gonna second this.Since we have no idea what might come up.
>>37310587>The Fae>The Rebellion>Lie (this pleases Baalzamon)We will never get any favor with this guy, will we?
>>37310587>The mission ahead - >Honestly>The Fae ->Honestly>The Rebellion ->Vague>The future/life after the rebellion ->Lie
>>37310710I would really like to, but he never gives us any favor when we make lies that actually benefit us, but keeps trying to make us lie about stupid shit we would only lose lying about.
>>37310765Come up with better lies then?
>>37310814I get the feeling he isn't actually about 'good' lies. He seems to be pretty much about lying for its own sake.
>>37310765>>37310814>>37310847Dude's really close to being the Ebon Dragon, so it'll be tough to get his favor.
>>37310880Please don't remind me.The bad part is, he is really close to being the 2ed Ebon Dragon.And its so bad that I have already a hard time convincing myself to try to get his favor.
>>37310880I'm not familiar with Ebon Dragon, but I've heard that he's pretty much Stupid Evil personified. How accurate is that?
>>37310923He made the personification of ultimate goodness just to be his opposite, his followers have to act like class b villains of ham in order to stay on his good side, and he will screw other parts of himself over just because he can. >>37310911Simple we lie when we can do I convincingly otherwise it's self destructive.
>>37310923Pretty accurate.In the 1edition of Exalted he wasn't.In the 2edition, which is the version most know. He was literally stupid evil personified.When people say he is such a chronic backstaber he can't avoid backstabbing himself, that isn't exegerrating.I mean, Baalzamon is not the Shadow of the Ebon Dragon, but, yeah.
You ask them about the mission ahead.“It’ll be tough” says Dev “But I think we can do this, especially with that relay you’ve mae, that was a really good idea Shee.”“Yeah” says Rainya “It would be a nightmare if we didn’t have that.”“Shee is the best!” declares Lirael as you all laugh.“Thanks everyone” you say “But really, I just hope the rebellion leaders agree with you.”“If they don’t” says Lirael “They’re idiots and we should leave their dumb mission.”“Well” you say shrugging “That’s life in the Rebellion, always hard.”“Yeah” agrees Rainya, then adds “Why did you all get involved in the rebellion?”“This is our world” says Dev “And the Fae are hurting our people, how about you Rainya?”“My parents were rebels” says Rainya “I barely knew them but I know they were involved I dunno, I guess I want to get closer to them.”“Me too” says Lirael “I think they fae have my parents captured.” Rainya and Dev fuss over her for a bit and then Dev asks “What about you Shee?”You shake your head “I dunno” you say “I don’t hate the fae and I’m not looking for my parents or along for some grand cause.”“But you must have a reason?” asks DevRight?>I don’t know>I want to follow in my father’s footsteps>I’m just surviving, changing to fit the situation (this pleases the Infinite Mirror)>Other reason (what?)
>>37311090>I’m just surviving, changing to fit the situation (this pleases the Infinite Mirror)That just feels cheap, but I'm not gonna look a gift horse in the mouth.
>>37311090It started off as>I want to follow in my father’s footstepsBut now its>I’m just surviving, changing to fit the situation (this pleases the Infinite Mirror)
>>37311090>I’m just surviving, changing to fit the situation (this pleases the Infinite Mirror)
>>37311090>"What the fae have done to this world is wrong and I want to help stop them."
>>37311090>I’m just surviving, changing to fit the situation (this pleases the Infinite Mirror)>>37311115How did it start off as following in our father's footsteps? We didn't even know who he was until Charun told us, IIRC. We still don't really know anything about him (including his name) and should probably ask Charun about that in the future.
>>37311161We joined to find out more about him then stepped into a minefield of happenings.
>>37311090>>37311133Changing to just>I’m just surviving, changing to fit the situation (this pleases the Infinite Mirror)I just remembered, we already told them we didnt know our parents in the prologue, didn't we?
>>37311194>We joined to find out more about him then stepped into a minefield of happenings.Did we? I don't think we even knew he was a rebel until Charun told us that.
>>37311240We didn't. But they don't know that.Until Charun told us we didn't even know if our parents were dead or alive.
“I don’t” you say “Don’t get me wrong, you’re all my friends and I’d never abandon you, but I have no great reason for being here, I’m just I dunno, reacting, copying those around me, trying to help everyone, trying to be whatever I need to get by.”[Infinite Mirror Favour +1]Dev nods as if he knows what you’re talking about, Rainya and Lirael just look confused.“Of course” you say “After the rebellion is won and the fae are gone it’ll be different.”“Here here” agrees Dev “It’ll be much better! No more police stops, no more oppression.”“Will it though?” wonders Rainya “What do you mean?” Dev asks“I mean, really better?” asks Rainya “For everyone? If the fae all left tomorrow the vamps would still have money and power and be in charge, as would all the rich Hivers, and the Dusters would starve.”“So what?” you ask Rainya “You want to tear down the Hives?”“Yes!” says Rainya “Tear them down and make the rich see what a hard day of work is really like.”“That’s...mean though” says Lirael “I don’t get it.”As Rainya takes a breath to explain, Dev interrupts “At least we can agree the Fae are the problem, right?”“Yeah!” agrees Lirael“Sure” grumbles Rainya, then looks at youWhat do you think of the fae?>Yeah, they’re monsters>Maybe not all of them are evil>I dunno>Other (what?)As you think over your answer you feel like there is more than one of you here, like you’re one of thousands of possible reflections of Shee Hyul.Accept Gift of the Infinite Mirror?>Y/N
>>37311380>Maybe not all of them are evilY
>>37311380>Maybe not all of them are evil>Fae society as a whole definitly is. Individual fae. I don't know. We will see.
>>37311380>Yeah, they’re monsters>Y
>>37311380>Yeah, they’re monsters>N
>>37311380>Maybe not all of them are evilEeeeeh, kinda hard to classify an entire race as being evil. Most of them might be evil, but there are always outliers.>Y
>>37311380>Maybe not all of them are evil>Most, probably. I'm not going to lose sleep over shooting one when in doubt.
>>37311380What do you think of the fae?>Maybe not all of them are evilAccept Gift of the Infinite Mirror?>Y/
>>37311380>Maybe not all of them are evilBut that doesn't mean they are good either, they think so differently from us that understanding one is difficult at best. They are alien and powerful and scary.>Y Hopefully a mind shield or a redirection of psy attacks.
Ok, roll Willpower 1d20+4
Rolled 10 + 4 (1d20 + 4)>>37311648
Rolled 5 + 4 (1d20 + 4)>>37311648
Rolled 12 + 4 (1d20 + 4)>>37311648
>>37311680Thanks for the save anon.Damn. That was way too close for comfort.
>>37311680Thank this anon, thank himDC 15Or I would have got to pick
>>37311701Do you pick from the three we get to choose from, or the entire rotation?
>>37311680thank you anon. I pray you get lucky tonight.
You accept the gift of the Infinite Mirror and as you speak you hear echoes of the words in your own mind, the echoes change over time.“I’m unwilling to write them all off as evil” you say “Sure a lot of them could be, and many of them are assholes, but I would close my mind to the idea that some might not be.”Rainya catches on to what you’re talking about and says “yeah”, Lirael nods in agreement.Dev just rolls his eyes at you “Women” he says “Always willing to believe the best about someone, I expected better from you Shee, I thought you weren’t caught up in this girly crap.”“Excuse me?” you say.“Y’know” he says, “The guns, the tech, you’re hardly a typical girl Shee.”Lirael giggles as Rainya inhales, a look on her face that indicates Dev might be about to receive a tongue-lashing.What do you do?>Say nothing, let Rainya handle it>Well Dev, like I said, I’m actually a guy>Rip into Dev, sexist asshole>Laugh it off>Other (what?)
Inside you, you feel something weird happening and your vision blurs.The Infinite Mirror offers 1 of 3 possible gifts.Clouded ReflectionNone of your Gifts with obvious physical effects show on your form unless you are using them. However they can be seen very faintly in mirrors and other reflective surfaces. This Gift does not have higher ranks, powerful magic can pierce this disguise.Bleached MindYou may split your mind in two and discard the lesser part to protect the greater portion. As a reaction you may spend 4 points of psychic energy to negate any telepathy or emotion effect or the effects of a single use of Fellowship skill used on you as you literally tear what just happened from your mind. You do not remember what happened but you do know that you just used this talent. Using this gift temporarily disorients you. EyesYou grow two additional eyes, anywhere on your body (players choice). If your extra eyes are uncovered you gain a bonus to vision-based perception checks. Higher ranks grant you more eyes, as well as the ability to detach your eyes from your body whilst still seeing through them, see in darkness and have your eyes be able to fly.Vote will be called in 10 minutes or so.Not votes until I call it will count.
>>37311862>Laugh it off>Retaliatewhat can we tell about Chad though?
>>37311730I get to pick from the whole listIncluding the purely negative gifts that are not in the standard listHue Hue Hue
>>37311862>Well Dev, like I said, I’m actually a guy>But Rainya is good with guns too, and I remember you saying you don't know much about tech either.
>>37311879Haha, wow. Clouded reflection is EVEN WORSE than Seduction.
>>37311879Clouded reflection sounds pretty handy and should make future votes MUCH more interesting, even if it will obviously allow powerful and useful new gifts.
>>37311862>Say nothing, let Rainya handle it>>37311879All of these are completly useless.I suppose Bleached mind is the slightly less useless one.
>>37311862>Well Dev, like I said, I’m actually a guy>>37311879I hate all of these options to be honest.
>>37311928I hadn't thought that possible. But it actually is, what the fuck.So, we get offered a power, that is worse then a sub-power from another gift. The fuck?
>>37311903Laugh it off. Bleached mind.
>>37311862>Well Dev, like I said, I’m actually a guy>Laugh it off
>>37311879Good joke Pally. Give us the real list.ahh damn.Ähm. Bleached Mind, I guess.
>>37311862>Well Dev, like I said, I’m actually a guy>Laugh it offThese suck. I guess I'll go with Bleached Mind if we HAVE to pick one.
the only one I could see being useful is bleached mind for if we get interrogated
>>37311862>Say nothing, let Rainya handle itI don't want to confirm him in that women can't handle these things when it obviously aggravates Rainya.>>37311879>Clouded Reflectionwat?
Hey pally, OOC how does the disguise stuff from Clouded Reflection stack up vs Seduction?
Literally all of these are thinks we need, except with a flaw that renders them utterly useless.Clouded Reflection gives us hiding of phys. mutations, except they show up in reflective surfaces.Bleached Mind would allow us to tear away the memories of our conversation with Yonsul, except we will remember having used a power to tear away parts of our mind, making it obvious we hid something.This is downright infuriating.I'm tempted to just take the eyes out of sheer protest.
>>37312125It doesn't have higher ranks, it doesn't stack at all. Its literally the same as the seduction one, except worse.
What will you shape the Gift of The Infinite Mirror into?>Clouded Reflection>Bleached Mind>Eyes>Refuse to shape itFourth option is to let the QM pick what’s in the mystery box?Vote lasts for 5 minutes but is not FD.Writing dialogue update.>>37312125The disguise part is the same except for the reflections which do not appear with Seduction.Not all gifts are equal.
>>37312173>Refuse to shape itIt can't possibly be worse than this shit.
>>37312173>mystery box! always take the mystery box! It could even be a boat!
>>37312173The box, the box! What's in the box?
>>37312173>Refuse to shape itThese are terrible. Fuck it. Spin the wheel.
>>37312206>>37312200>>37312199>>37312195And now we get a physical mutation. You bitch, Pally retcons after we bitch for an entire session over it since EVERYONE starts hating us, our cover is blown, and the entire quest goes to shit.
>>37312173>Refuse to shape itMystery box +shiny button. I have to.And if this fucks us over, I don't care. Those options are insultingly terrible.>Not all gifts are equal.No wonder Mirror was so hesistant to hand out favor. His gifts are terrible, no one would want that.
>>37312173>Refuse to shape itInB4 we get screwed.>>37312220Guess the mirror is going to force us to adapt..........
>>37312242NM I vote not mystery box
>>37312220I'll believe it when I read it, doomsayer.
>>37312220I'm already bitching about Pally making a gift that is objectively worse then a subpower of another power package.And not even the gods main package at that.That is terrible design.
>>37312220Meh. I don't really care. This whole godhood thing has soured the quest for me anyway. I'm just here to watch the trainwrecks.
>>37312173Maybe the infinite mirror's illusion dickery extends even into his power selections? All the powers look bad, but they have some kind of thing that makes them a lot better than they appear?Like an insane peripheral to Clouded Reflection, or the suspiciously unmentioned things that higher levels of Bleached Mind could do. Eyes turn into Angel's Lantern-style adds. Something like that.
>>37312288I actually agree with that. I found the quest far more interesting beforehand, wish we never discovered it
>>37312173>Not all gifts are equal.I can live with it not being equal to Seduction, but it being worse than a power that comes as part of the package of seduction is just awful design Pally.All pther ranting aside, you should really re-balance those.If it would literally do the same thing as Seductions hiding aspect, it would be understandable. But this isn't.
>>37312288I agree with you a bit. I'm not soured, just a bit salty.
No, I liked the godhood thing.I got a bit salty over Ichor getting a1:1 copy-paste succubutt power suit completly foreign to her theme. But I got over that.But making one gods gifts objectively worse than anothers, kinda defeats the whole purpose, doesn't it?
>>37312288>>37312312I think the opposite of you. The whole godhood is interesting for me.
>>37312327>>37312280He's already said Gifts aren't equal. Stop being so fucking salty because people were right about Seduction
>>37312220Honestly, if Pally first fucks us over by giving us gifts he himself calls inferior to others, and then fucks us over again when rightfully complain about the whole thing being very imbalanced. I won't even bother bitching anymore.
>>37312418What are you on? This power being shit doesn't make seduction any better.Its still terrible, its better to not waste any gifts on physical mutations at all, then to get subpar hiding abilities for them.
>>37312430Way to give him incentive anon.
The power of the Infinite Mirror runs wild within you, what it does you don’t know and your friends down comment on any second head you’ve suddenly grown or anything, so you don’t know what it has done.“Well Dev” you say “As I told you earlier, I’m actually a guy, I just look like a girl.”Dev snorts and even Rainya smirks a bit “Besides” you add “It’s not like you know much about tech either Dev, should I ask if you’re a girl in disguise?” You all enjoy a laugh at that, even Dev.Finally though it starts to get late and it’s time to turn in, Lirael is nodding off and Dev is starting to yawn.Where do you want to spend the night?>Back home in Dust Town>Here in the Facility >Other (what? including staying up to do something else)Metapost coming.
>>37312407I wouldn't have minded it, but honestly it seems so fucking cluttered. We've got psionic powers, we've got five god powers, we've got GUNS AND MECHS AND TECH and it's all a bit much to take in at once.Honestly I'd prefer we spent the rest of that time having fun with Lirae, having shitpost wars over Ash and doing well, more rebel like stuff with Charon and the team.
>>37312418The Seduction comparison is made because its the only power we have seen that has this aspect. Its not about Seduction specifically, which is still as bad as it always was, its about there being a powersuit containing a power better than a full gift.
>>37312463>Back home in Dust Town
>>37312407In that case you may consider our choices the trials of a nascent god. Unless you'll be capable of navigating through fallout of courting the demonic five, you are not worthy of ascension.
>>37312463>Here in the FacilityWe should thoroughly explore this place romorrow.
>>37312463>Here in the FacilityWe should thoroughly explore this place tomorrow.
>>37312463Evil mirror clone. Calling it now.
>>37312463>Back home in Dust TownDon't want someone to ransack the place.>>37312557>>37312530So we got mirror clones as our power? How meta.
[Meta]Firstly, yes I am listening and I will be making changes to the powers offered.I do not believe there to be any way to make all powers equally useful, and whilst I plan on having some powers be better than others, if players want me to balance them as much as possible, I will do what I can.I’m not trying to screw over the players or trap you into impossible choices, I’m trying to represent the themes of the Five as best I can, I welcome suggestions for powers they might offer.The default *hide mutations* power will always stipulate *unless the mutation is in use*, this is because hiding such physical mutations involves retracting them, shapeshifting them away etc. They need to be *out* to be used. I suppose an invisibility-based power could hide mutations and still allow you to use them, but someone touching you might notice the mutation. I added *hide mutations* power that is weaker than Seduction because it seemed players main objections to Seduction was some of its extras, I thought players wanted a clean stealth power.As always I welcome feedback and will end the thread in an update or two, and then hang around to answer questions.[End Meta]
>>37312477PoJ had the same power mechanics. I mean, also had plenty of power and abilities. Not for everyone, I know.Also, hah, all this disappointment with Clouded Reflection. have none of you considered that Seduction is actually way stronger than it should be? A disguise ability plus bonus to rolls, that's two in one. Just because it doesn't hide mutations in use doesn't mean it's bad. It's like you guys want the higher tier stuff right now. Get Seduction and rank it up, maybe then it will be able to hide mutations in use.
>>37312701>I added *hide mutations* power that is weaker than Seduction because it seemed players main objections to Seduction was some of its extras, I thought players wanted a clean stealth power.That is exactly what we wnte,d why did you make that power WORSE then that stealth power is the problem.The problem with Clouded Reflection is that it hides even less. If it would do the exact same thing, there would be no problem. Hell, I would have picked it.No one expects a power to hide mutations in use, at least not this early, thats absurdly powerful, all we wanted was one that just plain hides them.CR does not do that.
>>37312745Pretty much my feelings on the matter
>>37312721>have none of you considered that Seduction is actually way stronger than it should be?The problem is that Seduction is actually bad. And Clouded Reflection is a inferior version of its only good trait.>>37312701>I thought players wanted a clean stealth power.Then why didn't you give us one, and instead gave us one that was like that clean stealth power we wanted, just in useless?Do you not realise how crippling that "it shows up in reflective surfaces" is?A 'clean' stealth power, straight away copied, I would have taken and thanked you for.
>>37312803Seduction ISN'T bad though, you fuckung retard
>>37312721Getting seduction will just give incentive to turn Shee into a whore/conniving bitch. Not that I really care now but that's why I initially voted against it.
>>37312803>The problem is that Seduction is actually bad.how is it bad, at all?>A 'clean' stealth power, straight away copied, I would have taken and thanked you for.Sounds high rank stuff instead of a first level power.
>>37312846Isn't that exactly what Deception did too?
>>37312701>I welcome suggestions for powers they might offer.Remove the "shows up in reflective surfaces" part from the Clouded Reflection. It doesn't even make sense that a gift given by a god of mirrors would fail in mirrors. It should work better on those if anything. Not show up in reflective surfaces at all, maybe, but that isn't even necessary.As for Bleached Mind. Remove the "you remember having hidden it". Rather make us hide the memory in a piece of reflective material a mirror or what and otherwise forget about it altogether.There, fixed.
>>37312846I think you are just worried about the name of the power instead, anon.
>>37312701Say if we got Seduction AND Clouded reflection, would their magics stack in regards to magic piercing it?
>>37312836not that anon but calling people stupid will not get people to agree with you, just makes you look like an asshole. totally agree with you though, seduction all the way!
>>37312857>Sounds high rank stuff instead of a first level power.Wut? A subpower of a first rank gift should be higher ranked stuff?>>37312873No, you are just so obsessed with its name that you can't realise how bad it is.
>>37312893>Wut? A subpower of a first rank gift should be higher ranked stuff?Yes. Why? Because Seduction was LITERALLY that good.
>>37312870This.Especially >Remove the "shows up in reflective surfaces" part from the Clouded Reflection. It doesn't even make sense that a gift given by a god of mirrors would fail in mirrors. It should work better on those if anything. Not show up in reflective surfaces at all, maybe, but that isn't even necessary.
>>37312857Clean as in won't be annulled by a mirror or a moderately reflective surface like stainless steel or chrome.>>37312893It gives us a clean hide with stats buff and can stack into some rather nasty attributes if leveled. It was pretty damn broken tbh.
>>37312873Partly, yeah. That's all it would take to get the ball rolling.
>>37312909No, Clouded Reflection was just THAT shit. It doesn't measure up at all with any of the other gifts we got offered.Charisma wa better then Seduction. Durability was. Gaze was nearly as good.Its just Mirrors gifts that are shit.
>>37312870Your suggestion for Bleached mind sounds pretty cool for another power. Pally should write that down.>>37312948Nah man, Seduction was prtty good. Why are you so insistent on it being bad.No, really, please explain to us.
>>37312923>It was pretty damn broken tbh.It was not.It gave us a very situational minor fellowship boost, and the stealth.The other stuff was upgrades we would have had to purchase additionally.
As Lirael nods off you say to Rainya and Dev “C’mon, let’s go home, that’s enough for one evening.”“Sure” says Dev, climbing to his feet “This is an interesting place, if you want help exploring it, just say so.” “Sure” you say, picking up Lirael and putting her arms around your shoulders “I dunno when we’ll be coming back, but when we go exploring I’ll put you on my shortlist.”“Seems like a very short list” comments Dev as you prepare to teleport Lirael and Rainya back before returning for him.“Then you should feel privileged to be on it” you say with a smirk.“Very true” says Dev. You, Lirael and Rainya appear in your shack and then you go back for Dev. Once you’re back in Dust Town you go your separate ways: Rainya and Dev returning to their homes, Lirael crawling into bed, you join her shortly thereafter.----Thread ends there. For your actions this thread you gain 7XP. I will stick around to discuss things for a 40 minutes or so maximum.
>>37312977thanks for running pally.
>>37312970>The other stuff was upgrades we would have had to purchase additionally.But anon. That`s the idea of the gifts.
>>37312977Can we just get those powers fixed and revote on the gift?Because yes, they were far worse than all other powers we ever got offered. By any god.By virtue of being downright useless at their intended purpose.There is no point to a hiding power that fails at hiding at something so mundane as a reflective surface. Just make it a clean hiding power.
>>37312870I like these suggestions, thank you Anon.>>37312882Yes
>>37312977Thanks for hosting Pally!
>>37313003Yes, but that makes it more than one gift.So you would have to compare Seduction to a whole other range of gifts if you want to include these things.And then it measures up even less.
>>37313010>Can we just get those powers fixed and revote on the gift?I'm ok with this, though it will have to be next thread so I have time to rewrite the powers, I am of course noting down suggestions on how to do so.
>>37313057>it will have to be next threadI'm fine with that.
>>37313010Hey, the extra eyes are actually good. Sure, we need to hide them in the begining, but they will be extremely useful in the future.Bleached Mind is not as bad you think either. It's almost like a perfect defense against mental influence in exalted.
>>37313057Of course not tonight anymore.Thanks for running.
>>37313044Just get more favor, anon. Ichor is literally the easiest of all to get favor from.>>37313057I'd rather not, but if you insist, Pally.
>>37312923>It was pretty damn broken tbh.I got the same vibe. It feels like it's 4 separate powers that all got jammed together without getting nerfed at all.>>37313072It also got better at higher levels, though nothing in particular was mentioned.
>>37313087ehh balwhateverhisnameis is the easiest because all we have to do is tell lies.
>>37313072>Bleached Mind is not as bad you think either.The problem with it is really, that you remember having hidden something, which makes it useless if you try to hide something, because someone scrutinizing your mind will know you hid something. That kinda makes it bad at its main purpose of hiding something.Really only serves as martyr power.>>37313057good, that would probably be better.
>>37312970The hiding and stat boost(situational as it was) Scaled with the upgrades and it would eventually give us life drain(at will) among other nasty things. It was honestly pretty good. The flat hide alone was useful, the other add ons made it much more so.>>37313057Thanks for running Pally.Also Eye seems pretty awesome, we just need to be able to hide them while in use.>>37313072Higher levels of it are basically wizard eye swarm stacked with limited true seeing. Pretty damn useful, especially if you can cloak them with another gift.
>>37313087We could get other stuff from Ichor instead. And then thes eindividual powers would have to measure up to Ichors other gifts.>>37313099>It feels like it's 4 separate powers that all got jammed together without getting nerfed at all.Huh? Seduction only gave 2 powers anon.The other stuff was additional gifts it unlocked.
>>37313120I mean it would also be useful is we're getting interrogated but then again, why are we even in that position to begin with?
>>37313057Perhaps you could expand "Bleached Mind" into "Shattered Mind"?Expand it out so we can split our mind and memories to hide them in mirrors, this works both instantly(To divert telepathy and fellowship skills) to the mirror closest to us. While doing it in a more relaxed environment allows us to surgically cut memories and parts of our mind (Including the fact we removed it) to a mirror we're channeling it onto. The larger the mirror the more we can store it on, although the mirror itself displays reflections of the memories placed upon it and allows anyone to experience the memories upon touch
>>37313140>give us life drainWhich we already have.>The flat hide alone was usefulYes, as was said several times, that was the only good part about it. But it is so situational that it would be better to just not get physical mutations at all.
>>37313114>Anon>telling lies>telling convincing lies>telling convincing lies that are useful and pleasingYou're funny.
>>37313151The problem is, if we are interrogated it betrays we know 'something' and also betrays we have means to alter our own memories.And which point they can just force us to regain the memory.It would only really be useful to protect from a short and unfocused search.
>>37313179just sayin the one favor option i've seen come up most is next to lie
>>37313171>But it is so situational that it would be better to just not get physical mutations at all.Wait until we meet another Reunited with physical mutations.
Clouded ReflectionNone of your Gifts with obvious physical effects show on your form unless you are using them or wish them to show. This Gift does not have higher ranks, sufficiently powerful magic can pierce this disguise.Bleached MindYou may remove memories from your mind and hide them in glass or other reflective objects. You are not aware that the memory exists unless you look at the glass (or object) – though you may recall that the glass or object is important to you and that you do not want to lose it. You may fully recover the memory from the glass or object at any time whilst looking at it and you automatically fully recover the memory if the glass or object is destroyed. Powerful magic can be used to extract the memory from the glass or object but the memory cannot be read from your mind whilst held in the object (unless you are looking at it whilst your mind is being read)Thoughts?
>>37313198what? what power literally replaces a missing memory? it's gone, how would they make us get it back?
>>37313210I doubt we will run out of non-physical mutation gifts anytime soon.>>37313220Now we will actually need to have a discussion which one we get. Yes, much better. Thank you.
>>37313198>And which point they can just force us to regain the memory.How?Also, just invest in the gift some more, that should do away with the downsides.>>37313220The changes all seem good for a rank 2 or up. And I suggest only removing the mirror weakness from the stealth power on Rank two.
>>37313220>sufficiently powerful magic can pierce this disguise.Is there a DC for people to beat to see them or is it just cast and see? would us getting stronger mean that more powerful magics would be needed?
>>37313220I'd say clouded reflection should have some other benefits or downsides as well. I'd say that our form should appear changed to whoever is looking at us, a more idealized reflection of ourselves.
>>37313227I understood it as we will still be able to recall it, if we would permanently lose the memory, that would be pretty bad.>>37313220I might actually argue that the memory should be destroyed with the focus, but that is a double-edged blade, so I think its fine.
>>37313220Much better thank you.>>37313171When did we get life drain< also if we want to keep pace in melee with the vampires, fae and other godlings physical mutation might be unavoidable with some of their powersets. Teleportation, shadow form, water form, and juggernauting might render them able to melee us before we drop them.
>>37313273Nah, I think its alright. Yes, it would be nice to get more. But it serves its purpose, and if Pally wants some powers to be worse, its okay as long as they aren't useless at their purpose.
>>37313277I think it was lose the memory forever but this is a moot point anyway
>>37313273That's already done by Charisma, though?
>>37313285>When did we get life drainLast purchase.>if we want to keep pace in melee with the vampires, fae and other godlings physical mutation might be unavoidableThen we should probably get powers that allow us to avoid melee with these things. As long as we have enough powers to get out of melee with them, we are fine. Thats why we focus on ranged combat.And don't forget the technology at our disposal. I still want that Infernal Focus warmech.
>>37313336Life drain STACKS though, like the magic perception stuff.
>>37313336I also want this, so much
>>37313363Life drain isn't that absurdly good that I would desperatley want it to be as good as possible.I'm not interested in making Shee focus on melee combat.
>>37313336>>37313366do you think that Infernal Focused Warmech would look more demonic?
>>37313390Probably not initially, otherwise the gift would have mentioned that.With enough bonuses, probably.
>>37313388Still stack it with tentacles and our last ichor purchase we can deal a lot of damage very quickly.
Power not addressed: EyesDoes anyone have any issues with this power?I believe it wasn't taken due to its obvious physical appearance, but does anyone have any objection to or modifications/suggestions for this power?Also, would people like me to outline other planned Infinite Mirror Gifts to avoid this happening again?
>>37313462Eyes was pretty good, if you want to out line them go for it.
>>37313444In melee. Which would mean investing in stats we haven't invested in at all sofar.Our strength sucks, for example.Focusing on melee makes no real sense to me at this point, she is competent in melee, but she is no master, even with her mundane means.I can understand the allure of tentacles, but I see no great benefit in changing our combat focus fully on melee, when we got so much range ability.>>37313462Eyes were fine. Not amazing, but definitly on par with other gifts like tentacles.I don't think we 'need' to see the others. I think this was just a unfortunate hickup because Mirror powers are hard to do I guess.
>>37313462nah, no issues with me.
>>37313462Eyes were good, just physical mutation problem, but in principle as good as can be expected.I would prefer not to spoil the surprise, all the other gifts we had seen sofar were perfectly okay, so I'm willing to trust in this just having been a issue for those two.
>>37313526Well yeah, just pointing out they might be useful for a hold out especially if we can hide them. Just saying having some melee hold out would help, especially since we have the limb perk anyways. I doubt we'll be able to escape every melee enemy in this quest.
>>37313462Eyes was fine, I'd rather keep the surprise.
>>37313526>but I see no great benefit in changing our combat focus fully on meleeWe got our new Ichor gift partially because it allows us to benefit from tentacles in range, by using one-handed guns with them.Just saying.>>37313462Nah, eyes are okay.Don't wanna destroy your surprises over one, technically two, bad eggs. I doubt it will be a regular thing. And if it wouldn't have happened to be two powers so close to what we wanted at the same time, I doubt people would have reacted so harsh anyway.
>>37313444I don't think Life Drain works that way. I also have no idea why you think that life-draining abilities from two unrelated powers would stack.
>>37313650TOO BAD WE'RE SHIT AT ONE-HANDED GUNS
>>37313604I still want a tail.>>37313462Any idea when you run next?
>>37313671We can get better, besides if worse came to worse we could give a shit ton of suppressing fire.>>37313686Pretty sure if it was prehensile we could use it with or new limb upgrades in melee of even to shoot.
>>37313671Not really shit. We are about as good with them as with melee combat actually. We got Ranged Combat 2. And a lot of bonuses to ranged combat work for both, except long arms and sniper.Those two have at least synergy, in difference to melee.Also. Warmech.
>>37313686>Any idea when you run next?Ah yes good point, I forgot.Next thread will either be late Thursday (8PM or so BST) or Midday FridayFollowed by anther 8PM or so Saturday and another Sunday threadSo yeah, 3 maybe 4 session in a week.How hype are you?Also suggestions for powers you want/want to see are always appreciated.
>>37312977Thank you OP. You are our light in darkness.
thanks for giving the others a chance. I know you didn't do it for me but I appreciate it none the less.
>>37313762Pally, I don't know weather I made it clear or not but I'm not a very smart person. so my answer to how hype are you is the same as it always is. FUCK YEAH!
>>37313762Thanks for running pally.
>>37313762Very hype. Contrary to what the shitposting might suggest. I'm greatly enjoying this.
>>37313762Very much so. Awesome quest, keep it up!
>>37313778You're welcome though I'm not 100% sure what you're talking about.
>>37313778but things were fiiiiiiiine
>>37313851I was talking to the other anons,not you silly!
>>37313961I'm anon and I have no idea what you are talking about.
>>37313961oh my bad.You mean giving the other (male) members of the cell a chance?
>>37313994Probably going for one of the gods that isn't Ichor or KoH
>>37313762Considering our current behavior, we could probably use Nightmare Fugue Vigilance. Sleep? Never!
Also may I just say how much I admire Anons restraint in not recruiting Rainya as a feeder
>>37313778Oh, you mean the other members of our cell. Well obviously, we needed to at some point. Otherwise how would we seize control of the rebellion?
>>37313998yeah pretty much. I don't wanna romance them or anyone really. except for maybe that awesome police officer but that's just because she's bassass or anything, just nice to have other people around.
>>37314076 That decision was a lot harder for me to make then it really should have been.
>>37314016We are pretty well of in that regard actually. We got Ichor and Mirror on 3. King on 5 and Jagganatha on 2.We're really only missing Baalzamon to the party, and I will be daned if we don't get at least one gift from him before the Kae mission.
>>37314076friends don't get friends hooked on drugs
>>37314213>Drugs>liraelWell, ok, I will give you that,. It's hard to not get hooked on angel vampire lolis.
>>37314213>friends don't get friends hooked on phonics
>>37314266Well considering all vampire are drugs, she's better off not being hooked. Besides this way she can get us in our right mind if Ash can't come along on the Kae finding.
>>37314376>if Ash can't come along on the Kae findingConsidering all the stuff that can come up on that trip, I don't want Ash anywhere near that conversation we are going to have with Kae.I already dislike Rainya knowing about it.The less people know about our demonic magic, the better.
Shee Hyul, 7/7>Dimensional Arsenal -5 XP>Charisma to 5th Degree -2 XPDimensional Arsenal because being able to keep most of our gear outside of space-time for when we need it is useful. Charisma 5 because it's cheap (though this is the last cheap level), gives good bonuses and we'll get the flaming crown.
>>37314458True but she had fun with Ash, he's also a vampire like quin, and if we need to talk to her we can always boot him out of the room for "girl talk" He's pretty whipped.
>Ash>showing up again as anything other than Quinn's bitch henchmenTop lel
>>37314536>Dimensional ArsenalMan, Shee is really an Exalted.>>37314549Soon, anon. Let him think Shee is under serious threath.Also, you forget he did fight against the vampires that wanted to fang Kae.
>>37314536I love the flaming Crown.Now we only need mind-influencing powers.Completly approved.
>>37314549That reminds me we need more needler ammo.>>37314569He also had Quin two buddies restrain him when Quin went after us.
>>37314536sounds good AA
>>37314540I don't think that conversation is going to be quite that civilized, she is more likely to start shouting about demonic magic the moment we meet her.>>37314593>That reminds me we need more needler ammo.Definitly. Can't forget that. Rainya also still needs to buy her new gun.
>>37314593I think he would have lost it if Quinn had actually bitten Shee and gone berserk on Quinn's ass.
>>373146591) Good point2) most assuredly, also might want a silencer for it.Does anyone else think we should talk to Charun about the similarities of Psychics and gifted? I mean when both take it badly the mutate into insane monsters, and a lot of their powers are the same. Also should we let him know what the Gouger was and that we stopped it?>>37314688I think he'd be in jail for bloody murder.
>>37314688Thats not how it works. If he wasn't capable of tearing himself free before, he wouldn't have been able to then either.Unless you want to say he didn't use his full strength when Shee was in danger like that, which I seriously doubt.Quinns goons were just stronger than him.
>>37314723We should at least tell him about the Gouger. I think he knows more about Psychics and the Gifted then we do.We also still need to tell the other guy from our crew about our powers at some point, those are going to be important for the big mission.
>>37314536I'm perfectly fine with this.
>>37314536Can we upgrade Blood Control in the same way we do Charisma?It seems different.
>>37314728I think he means Ash might have gone feral Like Lirael was before we shot her down.>>37314768Yeah still we have a few days, we can talk to him about it with Charun. How much you want to bet he has shadow step or something like it?>>37314798Upgrading it makes the effects stronger, acid hits harder and blood tastes even better.
>>37314821>acid hits harder and blood tastes even better>blood tastes even betterI'm starting to think that might not necessarily be a amazing idea.We knew Lirael would get a bit territorial once we let her feed from us. But I think we probably shouldn't escalate that at this point.
>>37314956We'll discipline her then, having stronger acid would make Quin biting us be far more dangerous for him than us. Still there are better uses for the exp right now.
Did someone else notice how several archived threads on suptg are damaged? Part1 of 9 is completly gone.Part11 is only halfway there.
>>37315170Both parts of this one have only the opening post. I think the auto-archiving is broken.
>>37314798It can be, but I believe it costs 5 XP/level even from level 1, unlike Charisma.>>37314821Not quite. Blood Control and Charisma have been updated in the rules pastebin.http://pastebin.com/LEEi5A3u
>>37315170It's been happening to others, it seems. various instances of archival failure have been reported, I've been told.