Overview>This is a quest taking place in the Dragonball universe, starting at the beginning of the Saiyan Saga>You are a human male, currently eight years of age>At the end of each update, you will have the opportunity to vote on what to do next. When one course of action has five votes, it wins.>Write-ins are allowed, though I will disregard those I suspect to be shitposting>Death is possible in this quest, but in this universe it is rarely permanent. So, try to be careful, but have fun>I will offer certain action/dialogue options at the end of each update. You can vote on these, or write-in>Have fun
Time to blind fold Goku and Gohan and get them to the pendulum room
>>37824043thats the plan
"We're fine, but I need someone to teach me the basics of martial arts," you comment after your match with Nappa. "Your technique is fine, it's your strategy that needs work," Piccolo tells you. "How did your match with Billy go?" you ask Kazuma."Well, we stopped it to watch you and Nappa fight once you got into that whole energy struggle," he tells you."Oh, Goku, Gohan, I may have thought of a way to make you go Super Saiyan," you tell the pair. "Imagine Frieza killing everyone you care about in front of you."They stare at you, confused."What?" Gohan asks."Did you hit your head during your match?" Piccolo asks, raising an eyebrow."Well, I turned Super Saiyan from getting angry," Nappa comments. "Madder than I've ever been. He probably wants you to do the same thing.""I don't think that will work," Goku says. "Frieza's gone, and he didn't actually kill any of our friends and family, did he?""He tried to," Gohan says. "But Kaguya stopped him.""I doubt you can become a Super Saiyan just by using your imagination," Piccolo tells you.>A. Tell Billy and Kazuma to return to training>B. Try to develop a new technique despite being in pain and at a very low fraction of your strength>C. Go home and get some much needed rest>D. Something else
>>37824084>C. Go home and get some much needed rest
>>37824084>A. Tell Billy and Kazuma to return to training>C. Go home and get some much needed rest>D. Something elseTell Goku and Gohan to meet you at Kami's lookout tomorrow
>>37824084>D. Something elseBlind fold Goku and Gohan and lead them to the Pendulum room without them noticing or seeing. Get Piccolo and the gang to help us out
>>37824084>>C. Go home and get some much needed rest
>>37824117Second, but we have to go get Krillin as well
>>37824180good point, tell goku to bring krillin along, for a "training partner"
The plan should be something like this. Go get Krillin at Master Roshi's place, gather Piccolo and the gang and tell them the Pendulum plan, might be a good idea to tell Kami about it as well. Pretend like we are still actually back in Namek when we go back, deny any questions they ask and say that they were just standing there looking into space the whole time we were fighting frieza.
>>37824272then again having our krillin might ruin the immersion, having fake krillin there would piss off less people when they realise what we did
>>37824272Make it to where we back in time when Goku was still preparing the spirit bomb against frieza and we are golden.
>>37824272Might be awhile before more people start showing up, so lets polish up the plan a bit to make it perfect.
The Pendulum room idea is so goddamn retarded. These guys know Frieza and King Cold are dead, and they know about the Pendulum room.
>>37824422if vegeta can supersaiyan from having a tantrum, watching his friends die because he's too weak is sure to motivate goku, regardless of whether it actually happensi mean gohan turned super saiyan because he thought he was too weak to make a difference and was sick of having others fight his battles for him
>>37824422Yeah, that plan won't work. Goku spent most of his time with Kami training there, and Krillin trained in the room with you.
>>37824084>A. Tell Billy and Kazuma to return to training>C. Go home and get some much needed rest
>>37824452>>37824398>>37824161>>37824117>>37824114"Billy, Kazuma, you two get back to your match," you instruct the pair."Alright, but you should get some sleep," Kazuma tells you."I will," you promise. "Goku, Gohan, meet me at Kami's Lookout tomorrow.""Right," Gohan says with a nod as you take to the sky.Flying home takes most of your remaining energy, and you're forced to travel slower than you would normally. Still, you make it home safe and sound, and drag yourself upstairs, collapsing in your bed and falling asleep.You quickly cup your hands at your side. "KAMEHAMEHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!" you scream, thrusting your hands towards Nappa and his attack.A blue beam of energy shoots towards Nappa's and the beams collide, pushing against one another. Nappa's strength impresses you, and you find that you have to put a good deal of effort in fighting off his attack. With great effort, you manage to slowly push the attack back. Nappa's eyes widen, and he desperately tries to muster more strength for his attack.With one last burst of strength, you completely overwhelm Nappa, pushing his attack back completely, and consuming him in your attack. As you watch, Nappa's body is incinerated within your Kamehameha wave."AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!" he screams as his life comes to an end. With your first enemy dead, you take a moment to catch your breath while keeping an eye on your only remaining foe.Vegeta.The small Saiyan stares into the sky, eyes trained on you. Rather than looking concerned or angered over the death of his partner, he looks amused, a smirk playing on his lips."I must admit, I didn't expect an Earthling to possess such power," Vegeta comments, eyes not leaving you. "It seems I'm guilty of making the same mistake Raditz did. Your strength is remarkable, and for that reason I'd like to make you an offer.">A. You're listening>B. Say nothing, just keep your eyes on him>C. You're not interested>D. Land>E. Attack
>>37824528>C. You're not interestedOk dreams Going to show me another nightmare? Like him being a super saiyan? Really?
>>37824528>C. You're not interested
>>37824528>A. You're listeningI remember when Humble pulled this.
>>37824528>B. Say nothing, just keep your eyes on him
>>37824528>A. You're listening>D. Land
>>37824528>A. You're listeningBuying time for dream Goku
>>37824528>A. You're listening
>>37824528>A. You're listeningWill you buy us a pony if we quit?
>>37824572>>37824578>>37824603>>37824612>>37824619"I'm listening," you tell Vegeta as you lower yourself to the ground."You represent a rare breed among the fighters in this galaxy," Vegeta tells you, eyes trained on you. "And my power is even greater. Together, we would make quite the formidable force. So, here's what I propose. Join me, we'll gather the Dragon Balls, wish for immortality, and claim the universe for ourselves!"Looking back, you see your friends eyeing Vegeta nervously, save Piccolo, who looks as if he's preparing to attack should you accept Vegeta's offer."Or, you can refuse, and die along with the rest of these weaklings," Vegeta continues. "Make no mistake; you have no chance of winning. The only way you survive this is by joining me.""Don't listen to him!" Krillin shouts. "We can win this!""Yeah!" Yamcha agrees. "I think he's just scared after the way you tore his big friend to shreds!"Vegeta smirks, putting one foot forward and thrusting his left hand towards Yamcha, pointing his index and middle finger at your friend.Yamcha barely has time to make a sound as his body swells and explodes in an instant, chunks of armor, skin, and guts falling to the ground."You're not fighting Nappa anymore," Vegeta tells you, the smirk not leaving his face. >A. Stare in shock at Yamcha's remains>B. Attack Vegeta>C. Stay where you are and keep your eyes on Vegeta>D. Run to the others>E. Tell Vegeta you'll join him
>>37824643>B. Attack Vegeta
>>37824643>C. Stay where you are and keep your eyes on Vegeta"Can't wait for Goku to beat you extra for that"
>>37823985Aw shit yeah it's DBZ human quest
>>37824643>B. Attack Vegetaand your not dealing with the average human warrior any more
>>37824643>>B. Attack Vegeta
>>37824643>B. Attack Vegeta"You won't be able to beat Frieza with a weak power level like that"
Oh not this shit again.
>>37824643>>B. Attack Vegetaget mad son
>>37824643You know, I forgot he did this. Considering we got Trunks from the canon future and therefore don't need Vegeta anymore, anyone else feel like we should kill him?
>>37824760He's an uneasy ally, right now. If he crosses a line and kills someone to spite us or Nappa, that's probably when it's time to drop him.
>>37824760No, he is an ass, but our timelines ass. Plus he helped keep Gohan and Krillin alive and the one of two people that proved to Kaguya that people can change.
>>37824788Fair enough. I don't see him getting much of a chance until Majin Buu though.
>>37824760Plus we didn't let him die to frieza and spill out his story, so that delayed his change a bit
>>37824760I know it sounds sappy, but I don't think we should kill anyone unless we have absolutely no choice. This is still Dragonball Z, we deal with our enemies by beating our friendship into them.
>>37824678This, tell him we are the legendary super human. Kind of like a Super Saiyan, but real.
So do you guys think Vegeta has achieved it? Become the legendary Super Salty?
>>37824968Certainly. His speech against Nappa was just a huge whiny bitch fest.
>>37824968Ah, but he is going to miss us when we flat our save everyone from Cell blowing up by sacrificing ourselfs, then do that whole speech he did after Gohan killed Cell, about he is no warrior, I will not fight again.
>>37824663>>37824678>>37824694>>37824713>>37824715>>37824752You have difficulty believing what you've just seen. Yamcha, your friend, gone in an instant, with no way to defend himself, no chance to fight.This monster took his life without the slightest bit of remorse, in fact, he seems to have enjoyed it. That smirk on his face stokes the flames of rage burning within you. The anger causes your body to tremble, and you clench your hands into fists, gathering your energy as you begin to step towards Vegeta."Well, I suppose this means you aren't going to accept my offer," Vegeta says with a chuckle. "Too bad. In any case, I'll give you a moment to clear the trash off of the battlefield before I kill you and what's left of your friends.""H-how dare you?" Krillin growls.You know that Krillin wants to attack Vegeta himself and avenge Yamcha, but you're not going to let him get killed like that.Letting out a yell, you rush towards Vegeta, leaping into the air and throwing a blast of energy at his feet, kicking up dust and distracting him long enough for you to rush in and punch him in the face, causing him to stagger back. As you rush to follow up with more attacks, Vegeta leans out of the way, bringing up his left leg and kicking you into the sky."Nice try, kid, but you're out of your league here," Vegeta tells you. "I saw you struggle with Nappa, and so you don't have a prayer against me. Witness the power of a true Saiyan elite!"The ground trembles and cracks beneath Vegeta as he gathers up his energy, letting out a yell as the wind picks up, and stormclouds roll in, blackening the sky. You can feel Vegeta's power rising rapidly.>A. Charge him>B. Prepare to defend yourself>C. Kamehameha>D. Dodon Ray>E. Taihouki>F. Something else
>>37825074>F. Something elsePerfect opportunity for a solor flare>C. Kamehameha
>>37825074>B. Prepare to defend yourself>D. Dodon RayI hope this flash back dream doesn't last the whole thread Dralo
>>37825074>D. Dodon Ray
>>37825074>B. Prepare to defend yourself>D. Dodon Ray
>>37825074>>D. Dodon Ray
>>37825111Second, Dodon ray won't work remember how that affected Nappa when we were at lower power level than him, it barely did any damage on him
>>37825066Something like this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYd7TWJfwNs
I wonder if these interactive flashbacks have anything to do with the changes in the timeline. I mean when Trunks came back the past was barely even recognizable to him, that implies that someone else must have come back from the future to change things, at least as far back as Radditz' arrival on Earth.
>>37825074F. Chop off his tail, then kick him in the dick.
>>37825074I'll second this:>>37825111He's vastly more powerful than us, he'll dodge or tank the Dodon ray unless we create an opportunity to hit him while he's unprepared.
>>37825202I'm hoping forhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8ef9Bj_0Ig
>>37825098>>37825111>>37825119>>37825148>>37825178You cup your hands at your side and gather every last bit of energy you can muster. "Ka..." you begin, direction your energy to the plans of your hands."Me..." you continue, feeling your hands grow warm as the energy flows to them."Ha...""Me..." "HAAAAAAAA!!!" you thrust your hands towards Vegeta, and the ground shakes and cracks with the force of your attack, and the wind blows Gohan and Chiaotzu back, falling to the ground a few yards away. Vegeta makes no effort to dodge, and takes the blast full force, but when the dust settles, you see that he is entirely unharmed."Do you still believe you have a chance at victory?" he asks mockingly, laughing as the scene shifts."Welcome to Earth," you say, speaking first. "You can still leave if you want."King Cold smirks. "How generous of you."You remain silent, staring at him intensely and waiting to see if he accepts you offer."Super Human, I am impressed," he tells you. "Truly, you have far exceeded my expectations. You have defeated my Frieza, while sustaining only minor injuries, and at such a young age. Clearly you have the potential to become the mightiest warrior in the universe. And meeting a warrior of your caliber is a rare occurrence indeed. But, it presents quite the opportunity. If you're interested, I seem to find myself short an heir, and with your incredible power, you would make a worthy addition to my clan."He grins, holding out his arms dramatically. "Think about it, you'd be a prince, and marvelous worlds the universe over would be the merest of playthings, subject to your every whim. This world will be spared, of course, as will those on it, as you seem to be quite fond of the people here. What do you say?">A. You have to think about it>B. No>C. Yes>D. Something else
>>37825318>B. No>D. Something elseKick him before he can react
>>37825318>A. You have to think about itTell me more about the PTO.[He won't be able to answer as Kaguya doesn't have that knowledge, and the brain's attempt to fit what little it knows into the script will clue us in that we are dreaming. Then, LUCID TIEM]
>>37825318>B. NoSolar flare then DD
>>37825363This, I like this.
>>37825413God damn it don't blatantly second me like 2 minutes after my post, you'll make me look like a samefag.
>>37825318>B. No"You don't even care that we just killed your own son, I would never work for someone so callous"
>>37825318D. Cut off his tail, then kick him in the dick.
>>37825471>>37825216I think I'm sensing a fetish here.
>>37825318>>A. You have to think about itIt would be nice if you guys would stop picking the same options we did in the quest.
>>37825486If we don't find out what these dreams actually are and just blindly pick the exact same shit they're going to be nothing but pointless wastes of fucking time. If they are an actual plot hook that's a shame because /tg/ ignored it. If not then Dralo shouldn't waste time with it anymore.
>>37825501Dream enemies deserve cheap shots.
>>37825448>>37825416>>37825371>>37825342>>37825340>>37825339"No, you don't even care that I just killed your son. I would never work for someone so callous," you tell him."You turn up your nose at my offer?" he asks. "That's a sha-"Before he can finish his sentence, you leap into the air, kicking him in the jaw and causing him to stagger back as you land."Why you dirty-" he starts, bringing his head down so he can glare at you.As he does so, you lift your hands in front of your face. "SOLAR FLARE!"There's a blinding flash of light, and King Cold howls in pain, bringing his hands up to cover his eyes even as you raise your right hand above your head, spinning it in a circle and creating a thin disk of energy.As you prepare to throw your attack, King Cold lets out a yell, and energy flies in all directions from him, incinerating the surrounding area, scorching your skin, and sending you crashing onto your back several yards away."You foolish child, you should have known you never stood a chance!" your foe yells, raising his right hand and preparing to finish you as the scene shifts one final time.You're in a burning city. Smoke blacks out the sky, the howl of sirens rings in the distance, and cries of terror and agony echo around you.Your friends lay dead at your feet, each of them slain by the pair of foes you came here to confront. It wasn't even a contest; you all walked right into a slaughter.Echoing laughter grabs your attention, and one of the killers emerges from a nearby alleyway. She has shoulder-length blonde hair, and is wearing a blue jacket and a cruel smile.>A. Attack her head on>B. Run>C. Look for the other one>D. Dodon Rays>E. Kamehameha>F. Taihouki>G. Something else
>>37825688G. Something elseChallenge her to a game of basketball
>>37825688>>C. Look for the other oneLike that dinosaur movie.
>>37825688>C. Look for the other one>G. Something else"What are you?"
>>37825688>A. Attack her head onOh no she's hotWait, how can we know this?
>>37825688>C. Look for the other one
>>37825754Trunks described their appearances to you
>>37825688>C. Look for the other onei swear to god if someone mentions multi-form...
>>37825846We should tell them to multiform.>>37825688C
>>37825688>G. "I suspected, so what? You should have known you'll win, so why remain a slave to your programming? You plastic bitch!
>>37825688Look for the other one, try to disable them with Dodon Rays.Remember: They never tire. Kamehameha is a losing proposition - it badly drains us, while they recover.Focus on endurance, and fighting in melee while minimising damage taken and energy lost. Look for an opportunity to Dodon or Destructo. Aim for their sensors.Don't be afraid to run right the hell away. If the fight lasts for more than a couple of minutes, they'll have the EXTREME advantage, and we should try kicking up dust and hauling ass through any area that blocks line of sight but still allows running away.Oh, and no Multiform.
>>37825728>>37825740>>37825747>>37825756>>37825765>>37825784>>37825846You stay where you are, desperately looking around for the other one, but finding no sign of him. It seems that it's just you and her for now; this mysterious woman who so effortlessly slaughtered your friends."What are you?" you ask.Her answer is a chuckle as she raises her right hand, gathering energy and unleashing it in a massive wave. You quickly leap into the air, avoiding the attack, but as a result, half of the city is vaporized in an instant.You hear a thousand screams as at least that many lives are ended by the cruel woman below. You stare down at her, finding her focus remaining on the smoking crater where buildings and innocent people had stood mere seconds ago, regarding it with a sadistic grin.A nearby building collapses to the ground, and a young man with long black hair and a scarf around his neck casually strolls from the rubble. His eyes immediately shift to look at you, and a smile works its way onto his face.>A. Attack him>B. Attack the woman>C. Retreat>D. Prepare to defend yourself>E. Something else
>>37825996>>B. Attack the womanShe fired first, be ready to retreat if the other gets involved though.
>>37825996>B. Attack the woman
>>37825996>E. Something elseSolar flare and >C. Retreat
>>37825996>A. Attack him
>>37825996>D. Prepare to defend yourselfFocus on endurance, and wait for an opening!
>>37825996>>C. RetreatWe need more information
>>37826044I feel like androids should be immune to that. Are they?
>>37825996>C. Retreatget them away from those civilians first
>>37825996E. Surround our body with Destructo Disk energy, then charge whichever one's closer. Fly right through them like a battering ram of justice.
>>37825996>B. Attack the womanShe attacked first
>>37825996D and be ready to Solar Flare if they BOTH attack.
>>37826077Not in alt timeline.
>>37826077Probably not. They don't have any super special visual adaptions that we've seen. 16 has a scouter though so he may be immune to stuff like that. There also wasn't any call to use the Solar Flare against them since they left on their own once they finished kicking everyone's ass and got ate by cell in their two fights.
>>37825996>>E. Something elseTry to lead them far away from the citythen>B. Attack the woman
>>37826084Wait for them to charge us first, before doing that.Momentum is a harsh mistress.
>>37826084We can probably get further by using the edge of our hand and Karate chop some bitches until we actually master the technique. Smaller surface area should make it less exhausting and more intense.
>>37826028>>37826035>>37826044>>37826069>>37826082>>37826085>>37826128You have to get these two monsters away from the city at once, before every living thing still there suffers the same fate as the others."Hey!" you shout. "Come get me!"The woman turns her gaze from the crater and stares up at you as you turn and flee, attempting to lead them away from the city. You get as far as the crater before the woman appears in front of you, smiling wickedly.Letting out a yell, you charge at her, throwing a punch that she easily parries, countering with a swift strike to your face that knocks you back, only to sieze you by the hair and turn you to look at what's left of the city.The young man smirks up at you from the base of a large building, letting out a yell as a large dome of energy begins to expand around him, incinerating the city foot by foot, and killing every last person there.The woman releases your hair, then kicks you in the back, sending you plummeting down to the wasteland where the proud city once stood. You crash hard, horrific pain shooting through your body as you strike the ground, forming another crater.Fighting the pain, you force yourself to your feet, seeing the man walking slowly towards you, a smile on his face. Hearing movement behind you, you turn to see the woman approaching as well.>A. Attack the man>B. Attack the woman>C. Retreat>D. Dodon Rays>E. Kamehameha>F. Destructo Disk>G. Taihouki>H. Something else
>>37826302>G. Taihoukino more fucking around
>>37826302>D. Dodon Rays
>>37826302>>G. TaihoukiWe'll get one!
>>37826302>H. Something elsePrepare to DefendGo out like future gohan
>>37826302G take one of them down. Aim at the guy.
So anyone wondering if we're glimpsing into alternate realities here?
>>37826302>G. TaihoukiWe never use this.
>>37826438We only use it in our wildest dreams.
>>37826436I think Kami might be doing this to us to make us think about the dreams.
>>37826436You're dreaming, not glimpsing an alternate reality.
>>37826438It's our surprise technique, it's our"Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!"
>>37826483we are dreaming of the androids, but we have no clue what they looks like
>>37826562Trunks told us what they look like
>>37826562The things we know about them are the only things we recognize about them in the dream. It's dream logic their faces and such are hazy and easy to miss.
>>37826562We had Trunks describe their appearance., because not doing so would have been stupid.
>>37826562Or how they act either. We are just assuming the worse dfrom what information Trunks gave us.
>>37826598To be fair, this pretty much is how they act in his future.
>>37826317>>37826345>>37826347>>37826349>>37826369>>37826419>>37826438These two are powerful, far too much so for you to defeat alone. But you have one last technique left, one that just might be enough to take one of them with you. So, as the two killers slowly close in, you leap into the air, holding out your hand and facing your palm upward, curling your fingers the same way as you gather energy.Your foes stand side by side below you, smirks remaining on their faces as they stare up at you, making no effort to stop you from using your attack.You plan to make them regret underestimating you. You pour every last bit of energy you can scrape together into your left hand, taking absolutely everything that you don't need to survive and putting it into one attack. Your opponents wait patiently, the smirks never leaving their faces.A ball of energy appears above your left palm, and, with a yell, you throw it down at your foes, who make no effort to dodge, being caught in the full power of the blast, which creates a blinding flash of light as it detonates, and a gust of wind that pushes you back even as you fall to the ground from exhaustion.But, for some reason, despite now being unable to move, you can still see. And, to your horror, when the smoke clears, the pair reveal themselves to be completely unscathed, stepping casually from the crater and approaching you. The woman reaches you first, stepping on your head and applying pressure until you're sure you can feel your skull crack. Then, she kicks you onto your back, and the last thing you see is the man preparing an energy attack before your eyes shoot open, and you jolt awake in your bed.The clock says it's morning.>A. Find your parents>B. Go to the Lookout and find Kami>C. Find Nappa>D. Fina Kazuma, Billy, and Haya>E. Something else>B.
>>37826562Again, Trunks described the appearance of the pair to you when you met him.
>>37826763>B. Go to the Lookout and find Kami
>>37826763>>B. Go to the Lookout and find Kami>>C. Find Nappa>>D. Fina Kazuma, Billy, and HayaGather for training.
>>37826763>>A. Find your parentsBad dreams, chores and gotta go to Kami's place to ask if Nappa can stop by sometime.
>>37826763>>A. Find your parents
>>37826763>A. Find your parentsTell them you might be late doing your chores then fly >B. Go to the Lookout and find Kami
>>37826763Jesus, we got wrecked.>A. Find your parentsDo daily chores first. Then>Find Nappa, Kazuma, Billy, HayaLookout time bros.
>>37826763A, what was that second B suppose to be.
>>37826763>>A. Find your parents>>B. Go to the Lookout and find Kami>>C. Find Nappa>>D. Fina Kazuma, Billy, and Haya
>>37826763>B. Go to the Lookout and find KamiTime for some wise guidance and plan preparation
>>37826763>A. Find your parents>>B. Go to the Lookout and find KamiCHores first, then training
>>37826763>>D. Fina Kazuma, Billy, and Haya
>>37826763>A. Find your parents>B. Go to the Lookout and find Kami
>>37826831We always get wrecked in dreams. We got hyper wrecked by Raditz.
>>37826763>A. Find your parentsget some chores donethen>B. Go to the Lookout and find Kamistill need to ask him about Nappa
>>37826848Last time we asked Kami about guidance he just basically said it was PTSD. There wasn't much guidance really.
Why don't we ever talk about our dreams with our parents?
>>37826955Guess we don't want to worry them.
>>37826933No meant for turning Goku and Gohan ssj
>>37826794>>37826805>>37826809>>37826810>>37826812>>37826815>>37826831>>37826843>>37826844>>37826848>>37826852>>37826873>>37826907You quickly make your way downstairs, finding your parents preparing breakfast. After sitting through the meal and accomplishing your chores, you gather Nappa, Billy, Kazuma, and Haya together, departing from your homes and making your way to the Lookout.As you fly, you try to decide what to do about the nightmares you had last evening. Should you ask Kami for some guidance on them? Ignore them and continue your training? Take some time to figure out what your subconscious is saying?Kazuma casts a concerned glance in your direction, seeming to be the only one that realizes something is wrong. But he refrains from commenting, probably figuring you don't want to discuss it with everyone.Approaching the Lookout, you spot Goku and Gohan sparring with one another, your young friend struggling to keep up with his father. Popo watches from nearby, smiling as you and you friends land.>A. Find Kami>B. Challenge Nappa to a match>C. Challenge Haya to a match>D. Challenge Goku to a match>E. Challenge Kazuma to a match>F. Challenge Billy to a match>G. Challenge Gohan to a match>H. Something else
>>37827170>A. Find Kami
>>37827170>Take some time to figure out what your subconscious is saying?Take some time to figure out what my subconscious is saying.
>>37827170>A. Find Kami>H. Work on new techniques
>>37827170>>A. Find Kami
>>37827170>B. Challenge Nappa to a matchwe are rested, and our limits broke last time, and we are at full power (slightly more powerful than Nappa)but we should TRAIN, not just fight, let him teach us how to properly fight
>>37827170>A. Find Kami>H. Something elseDiscuss what happenned and ask for some if there is a easier way to get Goku to turn ssj from what info we have
>>37827170>>A. Find KamiKazuma is the perceptive one apparently.
>>37827170>A. Find KamiMight as well say hi if we're on his property.
>>37827170Some combination of these:>>37827202>>37827225
>>37827197This would be nice yeah.>>37827215We know how to properly fight. Our technique is fine as was pointed out last time. It's our decisions as /tg/ that suck.
>>37827197Clearly, we should go to the pendulum room and have the most qualified psychiatrist/psychologist tell us what our dreams mean.
>>37827170>>37827202>A. Find Kami>H. Work on new techniques
>>37827170A then work on new moves.
>>37827187>>37827197>>37827201>>37827202>>37827206>>37827225>>37827238>>37827245>>37827251>>37827301>>37827279>>37827308As soon as you and your friends land, you decide that you need to speak to Kami. Leaving the others behind to begin their training while you seek out the guardian, you rush to find him, figuring he'll be in the same place as normal.Your guess is correct, and you find him in his throne room, occupying the throne of guardian as usual. A kind smile appears on his face as he sees you, and he gestures for you to come in."Kaguya, back already?" he asks. "Why, it hasn't even been a day. Have you simply come to train? No, that's not it, is it? Something is troubling you, isn't it?"He sits up straight in his throne, giving you his complete attention. "What's on your mind?">A. Talk about your dreams>B. Talk about making Goku and Gohan Super Saiyans>C. Something else
>>37827619>A. Talk about your dreams>>B. Talk about making Goku and Gohan Super SaiyansBeing bros with god will never get old
>>37827619>>A. Talk about your dreams>C. Something elseCan you teach me some magic or moves that use magic?
>>37827619>A. Talk about your dreams>B. Talk about making Goku and Gohan Super Saiyans
>>37827619>>A. Talk about your dreams>>B. Talk about making Goku and Gohan Super Saiyans"Well first I should mention that there's going to be a pair of super powerful androids that will kill everyone if we aren't careful and Goku doesn't take this special heart medicine a time traveler gave him."
>>37827619>>A. Talk about your dreams>>B. Talk about making Goku and Gohan Super Saiyans
>>37827619>>A. Talk about your dreams>B. Talk about making Goku and Gohan Super Saiyans
>>37827677Pretty sure he knows about the Androids, because Piccolo does.>>37827619A and B
>>37827769I didn't think there link worked that way. And piccolo isn't really going to go tell him. He may have been watching the whole confrontation though sure.
>>37827769>>37827727>>37827700>>37827677>>37827656>>37827639>>37827642"I'm trying to find a way to help Goku and Gohan become Super Saiyans," you tell Kami."And you aren't sure how to go about doing so," Kami guesses. "I see. Well, as we both know, Nappa was driven to that level by intense rage. I understand that you had thought of triggering that level of rage in both Goku and Gohan, by picturing their loved ones being killed. You may be on the right track, but simply imagining something bad happening won't bring about the kind of fury that they'll need."He rises from his throne. "Having them actually experience such loss in an environment where it won't be permanent could work, but the issue is, any and all situations in which their friends were in danger of dying were ultimately resolved. For example, if you were to go to the Pendulum Room and travel back to your battle on Namek, Frieza would simply fall to the version of yourself that was already there, unless you destroyed it."He studies you. "I am not sure if you would want to put yourself through such an experience. After all, fake or not, destroying yourself could have repercussions on your psyche."Speaking of repercussions on your psyche, you decide to tell Kami of your dreams, detailing the fights with Vegeta, King Cold, and the Androids."I see, and you aren't sure what they mean," Kami says. "Well, Vegeta was a foe that you spent a year training to defeat, yet still outclassed you. King Cold was a foe that beat you even after your power had increased in a fierce battle with Frieza after fifteen months of training. And then you dreamed of defeat at the hands of two foes you'll be training to face for three years. What do you think it means?">A. Take a guess (writein)>B. You aren't sure>C. Go back to the others>D. Ask for a new uniform>E. Something else
>>37827998>A. Take a guess (writein)Afraid no matter how much I prepare I won't be up to the task?
>>37827998>A. Take a guess (writein)That I'm scared of always being one step behind the bad guys no matter how strong I get
>>37827998>>A. Take a guess (writein)that my fall is inevitable but that I should continue to improve myself and fight and live to my fullest.
>>37827998>>A. Take a guess (writein)"I'm afraid that no matter how hard I train it won't be enough?"
>>37827998>>A. Take a guess (writein)"That whatever I do it won't be enough to stop them?"
>>37827998>A. Take a guessThat I'm afraid I'm weak. That there will always be someone stronger who wants to kill us.
>>37827998>>A. Take a guess (writein)It's our shortcomings. When we've faltered or weren't ready despite our best effots. And we're afraid the same will happen with the androids.
>>37827998>A. Take a guess (writein)That I probably shouldn't put the entire burden of protecting the world just on myself, but instead trust my friends with their strength and help them hone it?>D. Ask for a new uniform
>>37827998>D. Ask for a new uniformOh adding this to the write in I already posted. Because our last one got kind of wrecked what with Frieza and King Cold popping up.
>>37827998>>A. Take a guess (writein)With nappa being a ssj, you arnt the strongest anymore, and with this comes a feeling of weakness.We are scared that when a new enemy comes (Mainly the androids who a ssj could not beat) that we wont be strong enough to defeat them , no matter how hard we train
>>37828088>>B. You aren't sureThis.
We could always get nappa to destroy the Kaguya that would be visible in the pendulum room.
Just wondering, now that Nappa is a supersaiyan; will he get stronger with training now?
>>37827998A.>>37828074>>37828088Either of these.>D. Ask for a new uniform
>>37828073Really, this is in the nature of our ability: we rise to a challenge, but it's very difficult to truly get out ahead of a future challenge. Our power is fundamentally reactive.
>>37828143Yeah, potentially we have that sort of Goku/gravity chamber situation open to us where we an equal opponent, and if we eventually can trounce Nappa, he'll just get stronger from it.
>>37828075This, our friends being dead might as be a emphasis on how we arn't trusting them much to handle the situation. They are depending on us, like they do Goku, so they might train less seriously, knowing that we would just come down and save the day.
>>37828162This is interesting.
>>37827998>E. Something else"Let's do it then. We are going to need all the strength we can get within this 3 years of training. How do I go by destroying "myself""
>>37828036>>37828048>>37828055>>37828061>>37828073>>37828074>>37828075>>37828088>>37828090"I'm afraid that no matter how much I prepare, and no matter how strong I get, I won't be up to the task, and I'll be one step behind my enemies," you guess.Kami nods. "Yes, I think that fear is what is manifesting in your dreams. And, keep in mind that Vegeta and King Cold were both foes you needed help from your friends to defeat. Perhaps your subconscious is telling you to trust in them as well, and not put everything on your own shoulders."You nod. "Oh, Kami, could I get a new uniform?"He smiles. "Of course."Raising his right hand and pointing at you, he shoots a beam of light at you. It strikes you, and you find yourself in the uniform Kami made for you once again."There you are," he says.>A. Thank him>B. Go back to the others>C. Go to the Pendulum Room>D. Go home>E. Something else
>>37828282>>A. Thank him>>B. Go back to the others
>>37828282>>A. Thank him>>B. Go back to the others>>C. Go to the Pendulum Room
>>37828282>>A. Thank him>B. Go back to the others
>>37828282>A. Thank him>B. Go back to the others>E. Suggest they use the Pendulum Room while you try to come up with a new technique.
>>37828282>A. Thank him>B. Go back to the others>C. Go to the Pendulum Room
>>37828282A, B, CLet's face King Cold.
>>37828297>m>>>B. Go back to the others>>>C. Go to the Pendulum RoomIt's called we find our self in the pendulum room and kill our past self.
>>37828282>A. Thank him>>B. Go back to the others
>>37828282>A. Thank him>E. Something elseTake the others to the pendulum room.
>>37828282>A. Thank him"It's a good thing I made an ally in Nappa, then. He's as strong as I am now. ">>C. Go to the Pendulum Room
>>37828282>A. Thank him>B. Go back to the others
>>37828282>A. Thank him>B. Go back to the others>C. Go to the Pendulum RoomI suggest we get Nappa to kill past kaguya to do it.
>>37828282>>A. Thank him>>B. Go back to the others"Also, sorry for ruining the last one as soon as I got it."
>>37827998>A. Take a guess (writein)Not only do I need to get stronger, I need to increase the RATE at which I get stronger.I also need to learn better how to cope with losing.
>>37828349Or we could just tell him what's actually going on.
>>37828381How else do you expect us to get him to kill past Kaguya?
I have this nagging feeling that killing ourselves or even our past self in the Pendulum room is just going to bad for some reason.
>>37828432We've died in the pendulum room before against the two past Saiyans.
>>37828413I meant telling past Kaguya.
>>37828456... that might work...
>>37828432I think we should do the deed ourselves, and have an existential conversation with our past self about fighting for what we believe in, and making the ultimate sacrifice if need be
>>37828444He means the actual act of killing ourselves might have some serious consquences if it's bad enough Kami is worried about it. The old man knows a few things and he seems to think the incredibly powerful child that is struggling with the stress of these constant battles might have a negative reaction to watching himself die.
>>37828282>Thanks God>Go back to the othersQ. Can the Pendulum room go to the future?We could have Goku, Gohan, Krillin, Haya, Kaguya, Billy and us fight against the future androids.Or Can the Pendulum room go to alternate pasts? Like, what if during the Black Water Mist incident, Kaguya is unable to fight somehow, leaving Goku and Gohan to fight off the Black Water Mist event?(Maybe Kaguya decided to fuck off to Spess to troll vegeta or something, idk)If not, we don't need to kill past-us to get shit done. We can just show up, grab him, and spar with him off-screen while other shit happens."OH SHIT BRO I'm from the future, you're slightly too weak to handle this guy and he kills piccolo while you're unconscious, quick train with me for a bit" "K"I mean it's stupid as hell, but it might work.
>>37828515He was worried about how Kaguya would be affected by killing himself.
>>37828282>>37828340 thisbut>>B. Go back to the others
>>37828296>>37828302>>37828314>>37828317>>37828326>>37828328>>37828329>>37828333>>37828339>>37828340>>37828346>>37828349>>37828366>>37828369"Thank you, Kami," you tell him respectfully.He smiles. "Of course, Kaguya.""Oh, and sorry for ruining the last one as soon as I got it," you apologize.He chuckles. "Don't worry about it, Kaguya. You were battling Frieza for the fate of the Earth, the condition of your clothing are rather low priority in that situation."You excuse yourself and make your way back outside, finding Goku sparring with Nappa, Haya sparring with Gohan, and Kazuma sparring with Billy.The match you and Haya had yesterday increased her powers greatly, and she's far more powerful than Gohan now. Still, he fights well, though she lowers her strength so the fight can last.Nappa and Goku seem to be roughly evenly matched, though Nappa is fighting in his base form rather than as a Super Saiyan. Kazuma leaps back to avoid a blast from Billy, getting into a defensive stance and using the afterimage technique to get behind Billy once he starts charging, kicking him in the back and knocking him on his face."Guys, let's go to the Pendulum Room," you suggest. "I have an idea."Haya and Gohan stop fighting and land side by side, walking over to you as Billy pushes himself to his feet and runs over, Kazuma slowly following. Goku and Nappa break off mid charge and come to ground, approaching as well. Together, you all make way for the Pendulum Room."So, this is that room you were talking about, huh?" Nappa asks."I haven't been here in a long time," Goku tells you. "So, what did you want to do here?">A. Tell them you'll all be going back to the battle with Frieza on Namek>B. Tell them you'll all be going back to the battle with Vegeta>C. Tell them you'll all be going back to the attack of Frieza and King Cold>D. Something else
>>37828679>>A. Tell them you'll all be going back to the battle with Frieza on Namekif this is going where I think it is.
>>37828679>A. Tell them you'll all be going back to the battle with Frieza on Namek
>>37828679Samefagging myself from>>37828517and requesting Black Water Mist event.
>>37828679>>A. Tell them you'll all be going back to the battle with Frieza on Namek
>>37828679>C. Tell them you'll all be going back to the attack of Frieza and King ColdThis is about getting absolutely slaughtered right?
>>37828679>A. Tell them you'll all be going back to the battle with Frieza on Namek>D. Something elseTell Nappa what is going on with the plan to turn Goku SSJ
>>37828679A and pull Nappa aside telling him what we are planning.
>>37828679>>C. Tell them you'll all be going back to the attack of Frieza and King Cold
>>37828679>A. Tell them you'll all be going back to the battle with Frieza on Namekit's a level we all have to achive as a minimum to do anything useful later, then Comes King Cold
Going back to Namek would probably be great for our three buddies and Goku, but Nappa wouldn't really get anything out of that. Unless Goku and our friends are going in alone while we do something else. What are you guys thinking about doing?
>>37828679>C. Tell them you'll all be going back to the attack of Frieza and King Cold"You guys will fight Frieza and Nappa and I will fight King Cold."We should explain the plan to Nappa after we separate.
We're gonna pull Goku and Gohan into a traumatic event?We've stopped being a good boy....
>>37828679>C. Tell them you'll all be going back to the attack of Frieza and King Cold
>>37828811Goku is going to be mad with us again
>>37828811Goku knows how the pendulum room works, and knows it isn't real. He might even ask if what have planned is the reason for this.
I retract my vote from>>37828781to>>37828809
Might be a good idea to tell our friends and Nappa to sit this one out and go with goku and gohan only
Guys, I'm not sure they'll forgive us for this. I mean, think about what we're doing. We're going to make them suffer.
>>37828841You are totally right we should stay being a good boy, return to our farm, help our parents,and what else? oh yesLet humanity be obliterated, that sounds fun
>>37828905What are we going to do? Aren't we just bringing them back for a training exercise? Are we planning to do something really sketchy? I don't want to be a bad child
>>37828868Yeah if our friends are coming we need to explain what Kami told us or have them sit this out. I don't want to fucking traumatize them if we can help it. Hell being up front and saying Kami thought it might help but is dangerous for us may be the best policy here.
I AM GAY DAD, BUT PLEASE DON'T HURT ME
>>37828928We're planning to take our other self out of the fight and throw them to the sharks basically. At least with the King Cold fight we don't have to be shifty about it. Nappa us and past us vs King Cold should seem like plenty to everyone else. Except we know that King Cold should probably be able to transform like his son did.
>>37828949ok man whatever you say.
>>37828905I have to digress, it is better if we pull them into a trauma than allow an actual tragedy to happen.Now matter how mad they'll get us, the won't stop protecting earth and their friends&families.But yeah we shoul leave Haya, Billy, and Kazuma out of this, since they won't benefit from this
>>37828917We already got our Super Human and Super Saiyan. Vegeta will come soon enough. It's our job to make sure we're strong. If we just focus on getting Kaguya and Nappa strong enough, we can do this. We'll fighters that can match or surpass the androids WITHOUT being a complete asshole to Goku and Gohan.>>37828928They want to make Gohan and Goku PTSD in the chamber to make them go SSJ.
What we are trying to do is a huge dick move, but we are also trying to prepare for the unknown, and are trying to have as many options as possible. If we go down or get incapacitated somehow the others need to step it up.And right now only Nappa (and eventually our friends) are capable of having any shot of dealing with the Anfroids. We will need to apologize profusely for it afterwards though.
>>37828939I don't want to do this shit, BUT talking them about it is something I'd okay with. Like, at least they know what could happen and know the risks and go through with it if they want.
>>37829063Agreed. It's already simulated so them knowing probably won't effect it much more. I mean, we go our whole lives knowing people will die, but most people are never ready.
>>37829057Gohan might forgive us, but Goku is going to be pissed
Goku and gohan will understand. I'm also sure they would rather have it happen now where it's simulated then later when one of their friends die and they can't prevent it.
>>37828721>>37828728>>37828735>>37828739>>37828749>>37828755>>37828759>>37828781You take a moment to pull Nappa aside, suggesting that he take Kazuma, Billy, and Haya somewhere else using the room once you, Goku, and Gohan return."Well, what are you three going to do that the rest of us can't be there for?" Nappa asks.You quickly explain your plan, and Nappa nods. "Yeah, that might work."You step into the circle in the center of the room, telling Goku and Gohan to do the same. They exchange a glance as they step into the circle."We're going to go back to the battle with Frieza on Namek," you tell them.The three of you close your eyes, and you're off.You arrive on Namek to see a younger you and a younger Goku with Frieza, who regards Goku with some interest."Goku, finish Frieza while you still can!" the younger you shouts to your friend. "Don't hold back!""Ah, so that impressive display of power was merely the tip of the iceberg, was it?" Frieza asks."Yeah, I've been holding back quite a bit," young Goku tells him."Ah, I'm certain. Your full strength is five, perhaps ten times greater than what you have displayed, am I correct?" Frieza asks."Something like that," young Goku tells him."Well, then I'm afraid you situation is truly hopeless," Frieza tells him. "You see, I am currently fighting at a mere five percent of my total power. I believe sixty percent will be more than enough to ensure my victory.""We'll see, Frieza," young Goku tells him.>That's it for tonightNext update should be Friday, Saturday, or Sunday evening. I'll stick around for a while and answer questions
>>37829018Maybe you are right, I guess we are getting desperate as the fact that we can't out-muscle this alone like we usually do, dawns upon us
Personally we can try and ask them? Like do they want to be SSJ and are willing to work for it or just try and help get Nappa, your friends and us ready for the Androids.
>>37829091Your blowing shit out of proportion. I'm pretty sure they will understand considering everyone died in the future to them but goku.
>>37829107So what is Heracles opinion on Kaguya joining his school and and being able to fly?
Eh too late for any changes now. We'll find out what happens this weekend it seems.
>>37829107Is this a bad idea? The more I think about this the more I think we are going to piss off Goku or Goan to the point of SSJ, but also losing them as a friend.
>>37829107When is Kaguya gonna burn in hell for this?
>>37829165Flying scares him, but he thinks it will be great publicity to have a "fellow hero" training under him.>>37829173>>37829152Goku and Gohan's reactions are something you'll have to wait and see. You might want to consider how badly this course of action will hurt you, though.
>>37829128I am not sure, but I have some concerns that we will loose this possibility if we let them in on this.On the other hand maybe we could probe them about how far they are willing to go. If we believe they are not convicted enough, we stand down. How about that?
>>37829107How are the others going to react to their being two Kaguyas, Gokus, and Gohans?
>>37829226Kaguya's going to have a break down isn't he?
>>37829173Gohan could probably understand our thought process/reasoning and might agree, but Goku probably won't because even the best intentions can't excuse a mean trick.
>>37829222Well, he'd have to die first.>>37829263Goku will get it, Gohan will need someone to explain to him how the room works.
>>37829241*How dedicated they aresorry getting late and I am getting disoriented
>>37829173>Goku goes SSJ because he's so pissed off at us to doing something so inconsiderate and stupid.>He beats the shit our of us and gets us kicked out of the Z figthers
>>37829226Pretty sure we could even pull the other Kaguya aside if need be.>>37829277Is that the past Goku, current Goku, or both?
>>37829277We should explain it to him. "It takes a moment in the past and lets us experience it as if we were there. Even if something drastically different happens. Don't worry, none of it is real, no matter how much it might hurt." then give a sad smile.
I guess I don't think it's all that bad, if you look at it from a less... malicious mindset. We're taking out the past Kaguya so Goku and Gohan can fight Freeza on their own, because we believe they can win, achieve Super Saiyan, or at least learn and grow stornger from the fight. But we should have told them this.
>>37829277God damn it, stop implying I'm right.;__; Kaguya is a good boy.
>>37829301Well we did get our super sayan and as far as we are concerned that's what mattersWe are being a little asshole-ish here so I can completely understand if they give us shit for it
>>37829329We could probably just knock ourselves out really. We don't need to kill ourselves so much as just get ourselves out of the way.
>>37829356We're about to emotioanlly torture our friends. We are NOT a good boy. WE're letting otu fears twist us to the dark side.
But yeah, if we go through with this we are gonna have some serious mental issues, to the point of us potentially becoming a liability due to PTSD.Kaguya's stepped up because he needed to, but all these early warnings really fuck with our head every time. We might honestly need to take a 1 year break during the training to just meditate with Kami or Piccolo and have them help us from a spiritual/emotional standpoint.
>>37829356We are doing something for the greater good, but is it kind of dickish. Do the ends justify the means?
>>37829301Goku will be monster pissed but he isn't that petty to just throw us out. Well leave out of shame but remember we're doing this for a good reason.
>>37829273Possibly.>>37829338Ouch.>>37829329Current Goku will understand, but I get the feeling having a conversation with past Goku is not part of the plan. Also, do you really think six year old Kaguya would EVER agree to a plan like this?>>37829356He has good intentions, but you know what they say about the road to Hell.
>>37829370I know. That's why I said in the post before this that we might go to hell for it.
>>37829301It isn't too late to change out minds, right guys?...right?
>>37829277IS it possible that with our level of strength, we could jut knock the old us out?
>>37829383Considering what happens during the android saga and considering the fact that the androids are allot stronger than canon and the fact Dr,Gero knows allot more now than he did in canon. Yeah, we have to go full Vegeta on this
>>37829414You could kill the six year old Kaguya in an instant if you wanted to, knocking him out would be no problem.
>>37829410WE GOT TO BACK OUT RIGHT NOWThe fucking second the next thread starts
>>37829433Why couldn't we get Vegeta to kill us instead?
>>37829402>do you really think six year old Kaguya would EVER agree to a plan like this?No, not in a million years. We need to gib Frieza and explain what the plan was to them, but realized it was a bad idea at the last second without talking it over with them.
>>37829438Are we at a point were we could od that without Goku and Gohan noticing?
We could also watch Vegeta bleed out and die, that might be insightful.
>>37829478>>37829478Fuck yes to this
>>37829482Maybe, but even if you did, they'd figure it out. Or, at least, Gohan would.
Man this is really fucked ain't it...
>>37829414Kaguya was what, something like 240k power level when he got to Namek? And around 2 mil when 4th form Frieza showed up? We could probably knock out all three of us super quick (maybe knock up a huge dust cloud) and do a swap of younger Goku and Gohan for current Goku and Gohan?
>>37829446Or explain the plan, and how we realized it was a horrible idea without their consent. I'm almost expecting Goku to tell us he figured out what we were doing already and was alright with it.
>>37829475He has to much pride and honor to kill a weak version of us, even if he hates us allot, he won't do it, unless we are at full strength.
>>37829520>Kaguya is no longer even trying to be a good boy
>>37829521No, going through with it regardless. Rather them hate us for awhile and be alive for it, than like us and be corpses.
>>37829552Yeah and then some fatherly bullshit about how he understands we're scared, but doing this wasn't right for us.
>>37829545He was at 15 million when he set foot on Namek IIRC. Kaguya was over leveled for everything but end boss Frieza.
>>37829520In what way would that be insightful? Other than needing Vegeta to give the speech, so Goku is sympathetic towards him.
>>37829558we're essentially a child soldier who was trying and succeeding to retain a normal childhood but life has thrown a ball that we need to hit. Regardless how we need to change we need to hit that ballThis sum shit up so far?
>>37829558>Kaguya just goes back in time to fuck with helpless Namek-era Vegeta over and over
>>37829584You can vote that way, but it appears that I and several others will be voting against you.
>>378295921.5 actually I think. We decided to toy with Frieza, and let him toy with us in his final form with multiform to power up.
>>37829538Kami warned you>>37829557Eh, you could probably convince him to do it, but he wouldn't particularly enjoy it.>>37829584>Paved with good intentions>>378295921,5 million when he set foot on Namek>>37829613Yeah, you fought through the Saiyan and Frieza sagas retaining a certain amount of innocence, and sticking to a moral code despite the consequences. Now Kaguya seems to have shifted to "by any means necessary".
>>37829604We would know that a Saiyan's heart is in the same place as a human's for one. That's insightful right?Or if I'm being serious, we see that Vegeta actually does have a setting besides "insufferable asshole".
>>37829635Rather go with fake loss or real loss when Cooler arrives and isn't going to dick around with us and our friends?
>>37829635I say instead of straight backing out talk to Gohan and Goku first and tell them we our having second thoughts about doing this to them.
>>37829677You've hurt Vegeta in many ways on several occasions. He believes his hatred of you is completely justified.
>>37829685We can find another way, or at least talk to them about it first. There is no combination of words in this or any other language that will sway my mind on this.
>>37829662>Kami warned youI was getting food damnit, I didn't think peeps were going to do this, this thread.
>>37829662We still have a moral code, Kaguya just needs a moment to recollect himself is all. It would have been better if you had given the option of whether we kept the plan secret or not from the others though.
>>37829724Well, you're in luck, because no decisions will be final until the next thread
>>37829685I think that's smart. This trauma thing seems more like a last minute hell training thing than something you do when you still ahve 3 or so years, you know?
So knock our pasts selfs out, let Frieza kill Vegeta, and watch what unfolds hoping what happens is enough to turn Goku SSJ or give him more reason to push for it?
All these fucking pansies who want to see our friends die by fucking android cause they didn't want to be a dick and have the two non super Sayains stay weak and die.
Fuck, Dralo baited us into this, didn't they?Like, the whole Kami saying we shouldn't just rely on ourselves thing. That probably got some of the idiots into overdrive about trying to do this shit.
>>37829781I'd less say bait and more people taking it as reverse psychology.
>>37829701We should do this, explain our plan to them and our reasonong behind it (and maybe even confess our fears to them too).They are our friends, they should be understanding of our concerns.
>>37829781Not really, I honestly thought we were going to the room to have our human friends level up on Namek Frieza
>>37829711We only really hurt his pride when we were fighting for our life and when we were fighting Frieza when we tried to keep him from giving up hope but ended up insulting him enough to make him hate us forever. We were totally justified calling him out on threatening to kill Dende if he didn't give him immortality after just wishing him back to life thing though.
>>37829781I thought that we were going to Namek to have Goku and Gohan try to take on Frieza by themselves. Kinda like how we did beforehand. Some other anons may think that the ends result justify the means.
>>37829662>"If it means I'll never be like you, then I'm glad,"Oh how we have fallen.
>>37829781It comes down to how you interpret what Kami said.He basically meant "Don't think that everything has to fall to you. Your friends are in this with you, and are going to stand by your side. Trust them and don't be afraid to depend on them the way they depend on you."Everyone seems to have taken it as "YOU'RE DOOMED IF THEY DON'T ALL GET A LOT STRONGER!">>37829741You can decide that next thread>>37829829Yeah, if you talk to six year old Kaguya, I'm gonna enjoy writing that conversation.
>>37829829Well he was right with the Ginyu's. They acted hesitantly on Namek, but on earth they reverted back to their old selfs full force.
>>37829829I can hear him COMPLIMENTING US RIGHT NOW!!! ABOUT HOW WE WHIPPED THAT LOW LIFE KAKAROT AND HIS MUT SON INTO SHAPE!!
>>37829879Because Ginyu himself was there in what they figured was the strongest body.
>>37829860Hey this is the result of negative reinforcement man, if the only way for Kaguya's friends not to die horribly is to act like Vegeta when he's not dicking around then that's they way he ends up acting.
>>37829879Vegeta was right about what kind of people the Ginyus and Frieza were, Kaguya's point was that if being a true warrior made him like them and Vegeta, he was glad Vegeta thought he'd never become one.>>37829898"Hmm, maybe the brat isn't completely hopeless.">>37829920It's your choice.
I say, no matter what, we talk to 6 year old Kaguya. If only for the contrast.
>>37829879Guldo hid during the whole thing.>>37829823We also wounded him here on Earth, kept him from killing the Ginyus, stole immortality away from him twice, and suggested him being our punching bag.
This is going to be a defining moment in our life isn't it. The moment where we decide on how were going to grow up and what kind of man we will be.
>>37829949And the only thing more humiliating than being beaten by a low class Saiyan is being beaten by a child from an inferior race.>>37829963It might be. Tread lightly.
>>37829920>if the only way for Kaguya's friends not to die horribly is to act like VegetaI seriously doubt it's the only way that doesn't involve our friends dying.
>>37829979Well come now gete's it can't really be called inferior if it can produce things that surpass Frieza can it?
>>37829963Not really, it's when we decided whether to save android 16 or let him die for Gohan to turn SSJ2 would be the defining moment.
>>37829982True we could always kill ourselves off and let canon take over.
>>37830010I really want to save 16
>>37830010Pretty sure Android 16 would live. Too many of us want him on the farm.
>>37830000He still insisted on calling Goku a low level even after his power raised higher than any Saiyan in history, Vegeta wasn't really logical about that sort of thing.>>37830022That won't work well.>>37830030"Just let go..."
>>37830010If it can die, it can be wished back. Even if we have to debate the dragon on the subject of personhood.
>>37830022It wouldn't really be canon anymore. More like "what would happen if Nappa became the hero of Dragon Ball Z.">>37830044
>>37829982It wasn't in canon for Goku, and Gohan acting like that cost Goku his life.>>37829860Could you imagine current Kaguya sparing Nappa? I sure can't.
>>37830044But would 16 want to be on the farm with us if we go down this path?
So we tell Goku and Gohan to watch the events somewhere save. We knock our past self's out when no one is looking and carining him to where Goku and Gohan are at, then watch the events unfold, like Let Frieza kill Vegeta and give his speech to Goku. Which is also good since the gang will get to know why Vegeta acts like a jerk as well.
>>37829979Well if that's the case please make sure that if you get the urge to run the quest earlier than announced you make it a side quest like "Playing Saiyan attack" or something. It would suck to miss a big event because I didn't check /tg/ that day.
>>37830080Eight year old Kaguya sparring Nappa? I can see it.>>37830111Noted.
>>37830092Nah we tell them why we brought them here then go from there. We could even say we don't think it's a great idea but we're so worried that we can't help but act desperately right now.
>>37830129I think it would depend on how this unfolds. If we don't talk to Goku and Gohan first, well sorry Nappa.
>>37830080>It wasn't in canon for GokuOh, are the events of canon absolute again? Because I was pretty sure that canon had very little bearing on this quest. We can find a better way than this.>Gohan acting like that cost Goku his life.I'm pretty sure it was Gohan toying with Cell and wanting him to suffer that cost Goku his life, not wanting to avoid traumatizing his friends. It's been a pretty long time since I've seen DBZ, though.
This leads to us having something in common with Vegeta and somehow we develop a weird friendship/respectship that leads to him not being an ass and him pulling the sacrifice bomb stone thing against Buu.
>>37830229Gohan pretty much let the SSJ2 power go to his head. Like how it went with Goku when he turned SSJ against Frieza and Vegeta with Android 19 and 20. So they all ended up toying with their opponents and geting their butt's bitten for it.
i have a plan we stop our younger self's and just have goku fight freiza alone no death sceans to watch and we say we wanted to gage there progress no emotional trauma and kaguya is still a good boy.
>>37830229I was saying being a dick wasn't how Goku got other people stronger, and Gohan being a dick led to Goku dying.
>>37830321Nope, Vegeta has to die in order for Kaguya and the gang to understand why he is jerk. He has tell his story like he did in canon with Goku.
>>37830340Oh, I interpreted your statement in completely the wrong way.
>>37825318Welcome to Earth