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You are Sireyi Valyenya, 27 years old, paladin, goddess, Queen of the nation of Oreia.

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Summary to Thread 53 http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/36603950/
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You arrive back in Oreia after talking to Delax, somewhat puzzled. Delax doesn’t lack for courage but he doesn’t strike you as stupid either. He must have some allies, powerful ones if he intends to face off against the other gods, and from his reaction it seems unlikely that the Lord of Life is his ally – his antipathy seems genuine. Still, hatred and grudges can make for some strange alliances you suppose.

That’s a question to ponder for another day perhaps. You have work to, it’s mid-afternoon and you have ambassadors to see, and the Parliament will likely get up to no good if you leave them alone too long.

You stand in the courtyard of your home, the place you usually use for teleporting to and from.

A ways away you spot a member of your bodyguard on watch, she salutes you and takes to the air, no doubt to inform her captain of your return. You sigh, it seems you can’t go anywhere in your own realm without guards.

Well, you reflect as the flock of winged women descend around you, that’s not entirely true, your bodyguards will back off if you insist, they just pull faces as they do so.
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The current head of your bodyguard, Captain Ialis, lands next to you “My Queen” she says, with a nod of her head, and a bland, expressionless look. Yeah, she’s mad at you, and you know why. The guards now settling around you are equally stiff and expressionless.

“I’m sorry I went off alone” you start, to head off a series of passive-aggressive comments and minor rebellions “but I went to speak to Delax.”

Captain Ialis and your guards relax slightly, most wouldn’t notice any change in their demeanour, but to you, she may as well have yelled her feeling out loud. Your guards are devoted to their job, but have a realistic opinion of their abilities and know that some of the threats you face would only use them against you.

“I trust your meeting went well My Queen” says Ialis, falling into step beside you as you head towards your house.

“It gave me a lot to think about” you answer as you reach the door, who could be Delax’s ally?

As you head inside, Ialis says “Kaela says the diplomats are getting restless.”

Ah yes, the diplomats....you really should meet with them at some point.

What do you do?

>Meet with the Oisen delegation
>Meet with the Muiren delegation
>Meet with the Mages of Dornmer
>Go see Kaela, she can recommend who you see next
>Head inside, you have a lot to think about
>Other (what?)
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>>39564999
>Meet with the Mages of Dornmer
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>>39564999
>>Meet with the Mages of Dornmer
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>>39564999
> Send Isla to start discussing things with the mages, especially ways to prevent the summoning of unwilling citizens
> Meet with the Muiren delegation
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>>39564999
>>39565087
I can support this.
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>>39564999
>Meet with the Mages of Dornmer
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Writing meting with Mages
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You pause at the door to your home, and then say in a resigned tone “Can you ask Kaela to get the Subcommittee on Summoning together please Captain, and tell the mages of the guild I will see then in an hour.”

“As you command my Queen” says Captain Ialis, bowing her head.
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A short time later you are in one of your meeting rooms, sat around a table with the six person subcommittee on Summoning, as they try to bring you up to speed on their negotiations, as well as each one trying to steer you towards their way of thinking.

“So the guilds are offering a list of basic rights” you say “but want the summoned succubi to be able to voluntarily waive those rights if they choose, that sounds open to abuse.”

“Absolutely” agrees Sankya, one of the subcommittee members “Summoning spells sap the will of the summoned individual, who can say if they voluntarily waived their right not to be harmed?” She leans across the table as she speaks, gesturing animatedly.

“The mages claim the rights proposed are too vague” counters Fasile, another member of the committee, leaning back in her chair “after all *harm* is open to interpretation.”

“I find that odd coming from you Fasile” says Oyala, a dark-skinned succubus with a harsh voice, another member. Indeed, Facile does have a long scar showing on her bare shoulder, that she claims to have received from a holy weapon.

“Merely playing angels advocate” says Fasile with a shrug “I still think simply having the mages agree to financial penalties for the harm they cause our people will keep them respectful.”

Sankya shakes her head violently “It will simply mean the wealthiest mages will be cruel with impunity!” she says, glaring at Fasile.

“We’re getting off-topic” notes Kaela, standing behind your chair. The mages have yet to arrive, so far you are just preparing.
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“Right” says Hunscale, a tall, muscular succubus, nodding to you “Our Queen doesn’t want us to repeat the same arguments over and over. The issues at hand can really be grouped into three main categories:

i) Who can be summoned? Is it opt in, or opt out? Should there be different degrees of opting in – so someone could opt in for sexual services, but not combat or spying?
ii) What are the limits on what a mage can ask a succubus to do? Simple basic rights, or full protections of Oreian Law – even in other countries?
iii) What about mages who break the rules? Who punishes them?”

“As you can guess” says Sankya “the Mages want it to be: Opt out – any adult succubi is eligible for summoning, basic rights only, and the guilds punish their own members for any *infractions*.”

She draws a breath to keep on going, but Oyala speaks over her “I think we should have our own counter offer prepared before they come in, as much as we don’t agree on every detail, if we can agree to some general ideas, then we have a position to negotiate from.”

“No” says Fasile “We told the mages *no* last time – lets see what they offer before deciding if we accept or not.”

“The longer we delay” notes Hunscale calmly “The more of our sisters get summoned anyway, and not just by the mages of Dornmer, but by other mages too.”

Another member of the subcommittee, Gihul – the youngest – appeals to you in a joking tone “Your Majesty, can you not save us from our squabbling?” eliciting polite smiles from some of the other members.

The final member of the committee, Hajume, folds her arms and scowls at the others, clearly unhappy about something.

How do you respond?

>We’ll wait for the mages to offer their new deal
>Say nothing
>We need to decide what *we* want first (options in next post), before we talk to the mages
>Ask the views of a committee member (who? can ask all, or more than one)
>Other (what?)
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>>39565630
>We need to decide what *we* want first (options in next post), before we talk to the mages
>Ask the views of a committee member ( ask all)
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>>39565630
>We need to decide what *we* want first (options in next post), before we talk to the mages
I think it should be Opt In. Succubi should be the ones to decide what they want.
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>>39565630
>Other
"If you want to bargain for something, you always make your opening price everything you WANT, but then let them talk you down to everything you need. That's all we have to have sorted out before we go in there. So, what sort of exorbitant, redundant, and superfluous rules do we want to hit them with, and what is it we absolutely need?"
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>>39565630
>We need to decide what *we* want first (options in next post), before we talk to the mages
I think we already had together what we wanted a few threads ago fairly well.
Voluntary succubi can sign up for summoning service, everyone else is by default not to be summoned,a nd we should really find a way to make it outright impossible.
Different degrees of service would be good, if doable, but not mandatory, would have to be something to be negotiated with the summoning.
Obviously full protection of Oreian law, maybe a option for the succubus to decide how much she does and a Oreian administration instituation, that way they can decide their limits without interference by the summoner.
I would say the mages guild should be allowed to punish infractions on their own, unless they fail to do so repeadetly. In which case, well. They get visited.
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>>39565695
No, no, the opening price is more than you want and let the others baring down to exactly what you want.
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>>39565696
I think Oreian Law should be upheld in nations allied to Oreia. In other nations, if the succubi is summoned to do misdeeds, the responsibilities should default to the summoner and be punished eiter by the guild or the nations affected by the misdeed.
And, of course, the summoning must be registered/recorded and no summoning can involve an oath of secrecy to prevent the succubus from informing it to Oreia.
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Ok, deciding time, writing.
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>>39565630
>>We need to decide what *we* want first (options in next post), before we talk to the mages
>>39565696
We should also force them to pay for our succubi services. Not sure if it was included in the deal, but they can't just kidnap our people to do stuff for them for free.
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>>39565778
>In other nations, if the succubi is summoned to do misdeeds, the responsibilities should default to the summoner and be punished eiter by the guild or the nations affected by the misdeed.
I think the "what laws apply" relates to the rights of the succubi, not to culpability in case of a crime.
But you do bring up a very important point with the topic of extradition or culpability.
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>>39565864
I'm not sure how it works here, but in regular D&D Planar Binding involves payment to the summoned outsider, so I would assume they would get payed anyway.
Not necessarily with money, but a exchange would be there.
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>>39565778
>and no summoning can involve an oath of secrecy to prevent the succubus from informing it to Oreia
I think for all we are asking of them, a certain code of confidence and secrecy should exist. A summoner should have some assurance not all information a succubus assistant gathers goes directly to us unless it relates to matters of the Oreian nation.
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>>39565951
>confidence
confidentiality, obviously.
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>>39565951
I think anything involving a possible comflict between nations or any illegal activity should be reported and recorded. Whether or not Oreia will act on it, it's something to be debated; maybe Oreia should be legally obliged to keep the information confidential as well?
Still, no succubus should be judged or accused of something she had to do in order to fulfill the pact. This will require good wording on the summoner's part, and gives the summoned some freedom to screw the summoner up if he does something bad to her.
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“I agree” you say to Oyala “we should have some idea of what we want before talking to the mages.”

“Time to vote!” says Guhil with relish.

Hunscale rolls her eyes “someone has to be a stickler for the rules” she murmurs “now that Gwenos has left.”

You recall a succubi called Gwenos was on the committee until a few weeks ago, until she resigned to go exploring, she always did seem restless.

As Hunscale calls out the options, they all vote on them.

“Firstly” says Hunscale “Who: Opt in, or out, and having levels of opting in?”

Hunscale, Gihul and Fasile choose opting out, Oyala, Sankya and Hajume choose opting in.

Oyala, Gihul, Sankya and Hajume vote for different *types* of summoning allowed (i.e. summoning for different jobs) but are split on how to define those types. Hunscale and Fasile are for all-or-nothing summoning.

Oyala and Gihul are for basic rights. Hunscale, Sankya, Fasile and Hajume are for full protections of Oreian law. Sankya gives Oyala and Gihul looks of contempt, Oyala shrugs “Be realistic” she tells Sankya “what nation enforces laws outside its own borders?”

For punishment Fasile favours financial penalties for mistreatment of summoned succubi. Oyala and Hunscale grudgingly agree that the mages should police their own – but with penalties for guilds that fail to do so. Gihul and Sankya favour a list of set misdeeds and penalties for the mage involved – they are less concerned with *who* punishes the mage and more with how the punishment is decided.
Hajume...favours the mage guilds agreeing that any mage who summons succubi must serve an equal time in service to the Oreian state, and that any harm the succubi they summon suffers, they must also suffer.
From the rolled eyes and sighs of the others, Hajume taking a hard-line is expected.

“Which positions do you favour my Queen?” asks Hunscale.
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>>39566086
>and gives the summoned some freedom to screw the summoner up if he does something bad to her
I think that is something we should definitly not allow. The upside for the summoner here is afterall guarantee to not get screwed by their summoned help. Punishing a mage who violates our agreement should be done by the proper authorities.
Its one of these things we can bring up to let ourselves be negotiated away from, but its not really something I would find good business practice.

>I think anything involving a possible comflict between nations or any illegal activity should be reported and recorded.
I don't think it should, should the matter ever come up, then we can just ask the succubus in question when it becomes relevant.
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Vote in 10 minutes, you can ask in-character questions in that time as well as *do we know in character...* questions of the QM.

For all options there will be a *no opinion* option. Please suggest write-ins during the 10 minutes to have them included in the final vote - including this like payscales for tasks, and culpability of succubi in crimes they commit whilst summoned.
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>>39566172
>I don't think it should, should the matter ever come up, then we can just ask the succubus in question when it becomes relevant
If we don't enforce this, it can be hidden behind an oath of secrecy/confidentiality.

>>39566176
Is it possible for a summoning spell to announce the reason for the summoning before the succubus is summoned?
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>>39566176
I would like to know the arguments for the "opt-out" option. Thats seems like a odd stance to take.
I would also argue that the "different types" summoning is actually better for all involved because it guarantees the succubus being summoned is actually good in that particular job, otherwise the summoner makes agamble about how skille the assistance actually is.
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>>39566224
>Is it possible for a summoning spell to announce the reason for the summoning before the succubus is summoned?

The spell can be altered to do that, yes.

The mages originally altered the summoning spells to call succubi from their own plane instead of another.
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>>39566224
>If we don't enforce this, it can be hidden behind an oath of secrecy/confidentiality.
I think its just a matter of making the oath of confidentiality a blanket matter defined by the overall terms of the summoning and forbid further oaths of secrecy. That way we can define the terms of the secrecy.

>>39566176
Could we ask the succubus what they think about the matter of confidentiality of the tasks, and about how culpability for crimes commited under summoning should be handled?
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>>39566176
Do we know how recompense for Planar Binding is handled in this setting? Is a payment already part of the summoning by default, or how else is this handled for normal summons?
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>>39566276
I think certain things should not be allowed to be waived off. Basic rights and law enforcement, for example. Maybe some vast grey territory for the legal/illegal stuff, but the succubus has to report them to Oreia for her own safety and legal defense. In exchange, Oreia can only use this information if the need arises (and yes, keep the wording vague enough so Oreia can exploit it)
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>>39566176
I think succubi should be punished for crimes commited under Oreian law, the larger group of mages can't want succubi becoming unavailable for summoning bewcause of things done under another summoning either, I think everyone benefits from that.
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>>39566154
>“Be realistic” she tells Sankya “what nation enforces laws outside its own borders?”
Damn, now I feel like having a cold war with those Delax-worshiping fellows. We could see who makes more god-killing weapons and then we could have some mutual destruction.
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>>39566318
>Do we know how recompense for Planar Binding is handled in this setting? Is a payment already part of the summoning by default, or how else is this handled for normal summons?

Payment of some sort is expected but the spell puts the negotiating advantage with the summoner - weakening the will of the summoned creature but not actually controlling it.

The summoned entity must agree to the deal, but a strong summoner can bully a weak summoned entity into a bad deal.

Likewise a strong-willed summoned entity can stalemate a weak summoner until they manage to escape the summoning chamber/circle.

>>39566236
>>39566276
Writing in-character dialogue for these 2, vote delayed until complete.
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>>39566347
>I think certain things should not be allowed to be waived off.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean with waived off?
Its about the secrecy of the tasks performed, not about the rights of the succubus, obviously we will word any agreement to ensure no abuse is possible or can be hiddne. But the area to discuss is if the summoner should have a guarantee his secrets stay secret unless they relate to matters of the oreian nation.
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>>39566364
>the larger group of mages can't want succubi becoming unavailable for summoning bewcause of things done under another summoning either
I don't understand what you are trying to say here. You want to punish Succubi, bit don't want to punish them?
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>>39566463
No, the point is. The punishment should be handled by Oreia, to ensure they won't be imprisoned or anything like that.
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>>39566485
This seems really idiotic. So basically you want to make it legal for them to be summoned and commanded to do bad things, but you also want to punish them for doing those things? I don't get it.
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>>39566406
Summoners always had to be careful with the wording of their summoning pacts and contracts. Enforcing that the succubus has to report certain kinds of activities to Oreia only means the summoner has to be a bit more clever in the wording, and make sure the pact forbids them from actively breaking laws, instead of asking/forcing the succubus to not speak about it.
This can also be used to protect the succubus from any incident with another nation's laws.

Or we could just add that any illegal activity done by the succubus while under the pact is of the summoner's responsibility, though I'd like to have registered what happened.
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>>39566550
Realistically, since they are citizens of our nation, at som point people will get the idea of trying to punish them if they are involved in commiting a crime.
Its gonna happen. And it would be best if we have rules to govern that sort of thing.
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>>39566557
>Enforcing that the succubus has to report certain kinds of activities to Oreia only means the summoner has to be a bit more clever in the wording
I don't think we should incentive people to distrust us like that. A summoner should be free to summon our succubi without having to fear getting fucked over by poorly worded contracts. At least not too hard.
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>>39566571
In that case we have to forbid the summoners from ordering our succubi to do illegal stuff. Otherwise it wouldn't make any sense to punish our citizens if we allow mages to force them into committing crimes.
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>>39566571
Why ounish the succubi? It's not her fault the summoner forced her to commit a crime. Remember that their will is weakened due to the summoning, the summoner should be the one punished for the crime.
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>>39566645
But poorly worded contracts are a staple of what a summoner must never do. Things are not the same as they were before, they need to be more careful now.
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>>39566646
>>39566653
I think you get too hung up about the word "punished", the point was that they shouldn't be punished under another nations laws.
There is basically no way to guarantee a task will not involve breaking some sort of law, because the succubus can't be expected to actually know those in every locale.
Therefore we should assure our succubi legal protection.
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You address Hunscale, Gihul and Fasile “Why do you favour opting out?” you ask “That seems...odd.”

Fasile smiles coldly “Many of our sisters have become complacent in this new world” she says “its too safe here, in order to retain their edge, they should be made aware of the dangers this world poses.”

Hunscale and Gihul disagree “It’s not about danger” says Hunscale “but involvement – right now many of our sisters are not concerned about being summoned – because it hasn’t happened to them yet.” Gihul nods “If we want everyone involved and talking about it” she says “it needs to be opt out.”

Huh, well that makes sense...you guess. You address your next question to all of them
“What about the matter of confidentiality of the tasks, and about how culpability for crimes committed under summoning?”

“Confidentiality has not really been an issue before” says Oyala “Once a task is complete an agreement ends. Traditionally a mage who wants his secrets kept offers the succubi a higher price for their services, or threatens to re-summon them and hurt them if she talks.”

“We’ve been hoping to slip that one past the mages” says Gihul brightly “They’re used to their fellows not believing a succubi – after all, we’re all *lying sluts* so I don’t think they’ve grasped how us knowing their secrets can harm them, yet.”

“It could be something to offer them” says Hunscale, stretching her thick arms and flapping her wings a little, yawning.

“No” says Fasile, shaking her head “let the mages find out the hard way, telling them only forewarns them.”

“As for crimes” adds Gihul “perhaps-”

“No succubi should be punished for any crime whilst summoned” blurts out Hajume, before the others can talk.

“Or” says Fasile as the others groan “a standard part of the contract should be the mage taking responsibility for crimes he specifically requests or orders, I don’t think anyone will agree to blanket protection.”
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“Most nations laws treat being a succubus as a crime!” flares Sankya “a summoned Succubi needs some sort of protection from that!” This feels like a familiar argument...

“It’s changing” says Oyala “slowly, but it is changing, in most nations.”

Sankya brings up an interesting point though – many nations wouldn’t put a demon on trial – they’d just imprison or kill them, though some, such as Dornmer are granting them legal protections.

And nations that don’t simply outlaw summoning demons usually punish the summoner for crimes the summoned demon commits anyway.

Vote in 5 minutes, unless further questions are asked. Will likely be split into 2 separate votes to avoid confusion.
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>>39566712
Yes, I know the succubis will eventually do something illegal, someway, somehow. This is why I'd like for such activities to be written down and the culpability moved away from them and onto the summoner. In the end, the succubus is forced to fulfill her part of the contract, and it could involve illegal acts.

Having them recorded is a way to keep them safe from other nations. Moving the culpability to the summoner is another. I want both because it could help a lot with investigations, and gives Oreia more power.
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>>39566752
>a standard part of the contract should be the mage taking responsibility for crimes he specifically requests or orders
That seems sensible. It will probably end up in the occasional legal shenenigans of a mage claiming he didn't specifically order this or that thing, but there is no perfect solution, I think.

>>39566783
>I want both because it could help a lot with investigations, and gives Oreia more power.
You have to realise that in the end the mages need to agree to the terms, we can't just demand all the best terms for ourselves here. And not having a guarantee for their secrets staying secret is a huge deal and a massive bargaining chip to make them agree to other concessions. In the end it doesn't really cost us anything to promise confidentiality about matters not affecting Oreia, since if it ever becomes relevant to us, it does affect Oreia so we can have always access to it.
I suppose 'we' could have succubi write down all secrets learned, that way they are still secret, but it protects against the information being erased from their heads or anything like that.
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How about written copies of the contracts? One copy for the summoner, the guild, the succubus and Oreia? Four in total.
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>>39566783
Just moving culpability to the summoner isn't the whole deal though. its compeltly possible a succubus might commit a crime independent of the summoners orders while being summoned, they do still tend to evil afterall.
And I want to make sure they can't be punished under another nations laws at all.
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>>39566840
Of course I do. If they don't agree to that, then it's a moot point. I'm interested in protecting the succubus from legal problems. Subjects related to laws are the ones I worry about and want to enforce be recorded. Stuff like personal affairs, research, rtc...can be kept confidential as the parties see fit.
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How did Drache deal with summoners summoning demons from its own plane?
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>>39566870
That's up to the wizard to inform the succubus of the laws and word the contract in a way to forbid breaking the law. Demon Summoning 101, people.
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5 minute vote, please do not quote this post

Please post only numbers and yes/no responses, no other text.

Unclear votes will be ignored

Who Can Be Summoned

1 – Opt In
2 – Opt Out
3 – No preference

Different types of summoning categories?
>Y/N/A

Y – Yes
N – No
A – No preference

Exact type of categories will be decided later

Succubi Protections

1 – Basic Rights
2 – Full protections of Oreian Law

Summoner Responsible for Succubi crimes?

>Y/N/A

Punishment for Summoners
1 – Guild Punishes them
2 – Oreia Punishes them
3 – Preset penalties depending on crime

This last one is about *who* decides punishment. The last option would involve a long list of *If the summoner does X, then he receives Y punishment* with little room for discretion.

1 of 2 votes

next vote will be about confidentiality and the punishment a succubi faces (rather than a summoner).
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>>39566947
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>>39566992
You forgot a vote in there and you can't quote Pally's post.
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>>39566905
My answer was interrupted by the vote. I think we basically agree then.
I just find that crimes commited independent of the summoners orders, should be handled by Oreia, because we can't expect them to agree to the mage being responsible for literally everythign the succubus does, and it creates legal grey areas. So its better to just say the mage is responsible for crimes commited under orders, and other crimes are handled by Oreia. We got a hundred literal angels to mete out appropriate justice over here, I think most will be able to trsut them to be fair about it.
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>>39567049
>a hundred literal angels
1100, actually. 20 Archons, 80 Eladrin, 1000 whatever-you-call-an-Angel-of-Love-and-Compassion-s. Though the last 1000 are ascended Succubi, so maybe you weren't counting them on purpose.
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>>39567008
Ehh, everyone is vothing the same as me, except for the guild part, but it's not like my vote would have mattered there.
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>>39567145
I was, I don't think the other nations would trust ascended succubi quite the same they would 'regular' angels.
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>>39566905
>Subjects related to laws are the ones I worry about and want to enforce be recorded.
I think we should start out with complete records and let them negotiate us down to just the legally relevant stuff.
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>>39567222
That's a way to negotiate, yes.
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“I think it should be opt-in” you say “With different types of summoning – I’m sure the spells can be altered to only call those who agree to specific types of tasks.” You make a note to ask Isla about this “whilst summoned, our citizens should have the full protection of Oreian Law, and a summoner should face punishment for crimes he requests – he would if he hired a mortal to rob or cheat, he should face the same for asking a succubi. And a list of punishments can be negotiated for crimes by summoners against succubi.”

You notice mixed expressions around the table, some are happy with your views, others are not.

“And the other issues you raised?” asks Fasile.
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Vote 2 of 2, rules as before

Confidentiality – What stops a succubus talking about what she did whilst summoned

1 – Don’t mention it, see if the mages do
2 – Full confidentiality allowed
3 - Confidentiality allowed except for things that could hurt Oreia or its residents
4 – No confidentiality allowed

2 and 3 assume the mage puts it in his contract, if he fails to ask for secrecy, that’s his problem.

Succubi punishment in other countries

1 – Must be treated as a mortal (non-demon) but otherwise full penalty of the law
2 – No punishment for crimes requested/ordered by summoner
3 – All punishment for crimes decided by Oreia

2 and 3 are exclusive of each other, even if it doesn’t seem that way, under 2 a succubi is still liable for crimes she chooses to commit whilst summoned, under 3 she is not (under local laws at least).
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3
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3
3
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3
2
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1
3
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>>39567316
yeah that's what 3 means
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4
2
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Closing vote
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>>39567354
Why the change of mind? Do you want them to be punished for their own crimes under local law?
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>>39567367
I thought one thing then thought another and now am thinking one thing again.
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>Hunscale; Opt-out(public discourse, all, oreia, guilds(grudingly),
>Gihul; Opt-out(public discourse), types, basic, list of penalties,
>Fasile; Opt-out(hardening), all, oreia, financial penalties, mages carries punishment for orders,
>Oyala; Opt-in, types, basic, guilds(grudgingly)
>Sankya; Opt-in, types, oreia, list of penalties,
>Hajume; Opt-in, types, oreia, eye-for-an-eye, no punishment for succubi,

I feel like a list of who favoured what might be useful later, if we deal with these more often.
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“I think that allowing mages to ask a succubi to keep their secrets should be allowed” you say “with obvious exceptions for anything that could harm Oreia or its citizens, and that in all cases any punishment for crimes committed by a succubus is decided by Oreian law, not those of another nation.”

This meets with general approval. After all, although a mage seldom has legal authority, then can end the spell and return the succubi home if they are caught, and would be required to if the succubi were to face punishment.

You all discuss the details for a few more minutes, until a guard pokes her head in and announces that the representatives of the mages guilds have arrived.

“Well” says Hunscale “Lets get started shall we?”

The representatives of the largest mages guilds in Dornmer are ushered into the room and take seats opposite you and the subcommittee. There’re a dozen of them and they are all older men. Most have numerous magical items and active spells on them: mostly protective and divination-type spells. None have any sort of aggressive or harmful spells. Two have no detectable magic on them at all – those are the ones to watch closely you think.

They offer you polite greetings but you can see most are surprised and dismayed to see you here. Introductions are made and refreshments served.

“Your Majesty” says Magister Xevak, a bald, sweating fat man in long robes “to what do we owe this...ah, pleasure?”

“This is an important issue that affects all Oreia” you say “though I have much to do, I thought it important to involve myself.”

“Ah, good” he says unconvincingly, touching an amulet of protection against mind-affecting magic he wears, in a nervous fashion. He is not one of those with no visible magic.

“Well” harrumphs Magister Ferdurgh, appearing to be the oldest one present, with a tanned and lined face “At least we might get some sort of agreement here.”
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The members of the subcommittee turn to you, allowing you the first opportunity to speak.

What do you do? (general)

>Say nothing, just observe (for now)
>Offer suggestions, but let the committee do the real work
>Negotiate yourself
>Other (what?)

(magical)
>Nothing
>Ask for their spells to be ended and items removed
>Attempt to determine what the two mages that appear to have no spells actually have on them
>Use power/spell (what?)
>Other (what?)
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>>39567755
>Offer suggestions, but let the committee do the real work
>Attempt to determine what the two mages that appear to have no spells actually have on them
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>>39567755
>Negotiate yourself
>Ask for their spells to be ended and items removed
>Attempt to determine what the two mages that appear to have no spells actually have on them
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>>39567755
>Offer suggestions, but let the committee do the real work
>Attempt to determine what the two mages that appear to have no spells actually have on them
We wanted to teach them self-governance, no reson to stop now.
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>>39567755
>Negotiate yourself
Not a vote.
This sounds like Sireyi is offeri g herself as part of the terms.
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>>39567755
>Negotiate yourself
>Ask for their spells to be ended and items removed
>Attempt to determine what the two mages that appear to have no spells actually have on them
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>>39567755
>Offer suggestions, but let the committee do the real work
>Attempt to determine what the two mages that appear to have no real spells actually have on them
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>>39567755
>Offer suggestions, but let the committee do the real work
>Attempt to determine what the two mages that appear to have no spells actually have on them
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>>39567838
I've no idea how you managed to read it like that.
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>>39567860
>>39567813
Don't be unreasonable, they negotiate with a room full of succubi, of course they would want some protection.
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>>39567755
"Look, if you're worried about the voice thing, it's a byproduct of how much divine magic I dealt with even before I made my name. It's called Angelic Voice, it's actually fairly well documented, and it's mostly passive. It's a bit disheartening when everyone assumes I'm out to scramble their minds."
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>>39567934
I think we settled the voice thing well enough the first time. Its obviously not the issue, they didn't even expect us to be here. They did expect the veteran succubi though.
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>>39567838
>>39567896
We can let them study us and the magic we use?

And all those invasive procedures~
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>>39567917
I will be as unreasonable as I seem fit. In matters that concern Oreia as a whole, I prefer to take no risks and make sure we come out on top.
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Ok, writing.

>>39567838
Not what I meant, but I like the way you think.
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>>39567978
And driving them away from the negotiations because they can't know we won't fuck with their minds does not help Oreia.
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>>39567966
Not funny.
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>>39567994
If they thnk that way, their loss. We can then proceed to block all summonings and do whatever we want. Or let them summon and use it against them in whatever way needed until they give in.
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Please roll Willpower 1d20+12 for detecting stuff

I'm assuming you're not using Lightning Halo - but can include it as a write in if you want to.
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Rolled 16 + 12 (1d20 + 12)

>>39568043
No lightning halo, but I'm tempted to have us cast Mind Blank on all the the members of the committee to get our point across.
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Rolled 9 + 12 (1d20 + 12)

>>39568043
Let's not.
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Rolled 13 + 12 (1d20 + 12)

>>39568043
>use halo
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Rolled 17 + 12 (1d20 + 12)

>>39568043
Does our side have magical protections on? I would assume yes, but you never know.
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>>39568085
no specific ones, no. So far the mages have negotiated in good faith.

Use 1 Deific Power for auto-20?

>Y/N

5 minute vote
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>>39568061
>>39568062
Why not?
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>>39568122
Y
Succubi haven't used protections? How lewd. Better start doing so now, thou
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>>39568122
>Y
> trusting wizards
> ever
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>>39568122
N
Let's not abuse it.
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>>39568126
Its a pretty agressive gesture, even if they don't know what it does.
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>>39568174
In this case I consider it warrented. We aren't really influencing them unduly. And if they try to hide their spells, thats already not dealing in good faith with us, and we are definitly in our right to make sure they don't threaten our subjects here.
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using deific power it is
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FUCK YEAH PALADIN OF JOY QUEST!
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>>39568185
It's not that bad. It's just a crown of thunder. It does nothing to them and shouldn't interfere with their own spells. If they become weary, good, that will weaken their resolve and make them more cautious of trying any tricks.
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>>39568295
Intimidation tactics aren't Sireys style. We can still pull out the thunder halo if they give us reason to be displeased.
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"The devil plagues and torments us in the place where we are most tender and weak. In Paradise, he fell not upon Adam, but upon Eve."
(The Table Talk of Martin Luther, #424)
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>>39568473
wat?
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>>39568513
He wanrs us about our waifus, obviously.
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>>39568473
Nice timestamp, skynet.

Also, burning DP on wizards... that's gonna come across well...
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>>39568630
If they try to hide shi from us when trying to have talks, they gonna have to deal with us doing something about it.
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>>39568650
>Well, if that's how you want to deal with the mage guild delegation, the talk is over and there will be no agreement!
>you can go and petition the king to do something to protect your precious fiendish strumpets if you think he'll be forthcoming to confront the guild over some demons, ha!
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>>39568630
>>39568709
DO isn't detectable like that.
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>>39568709
O we jsut shut down all summoning of our citizens and thats the end of it. Its not like we need to let them do it.
And if we punish them for summoning our succubi, I want to see them getting the Konig loyal nobility to support their right to summon fiends, hah.
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>>39568709
And then we have our Deific Sanctuary block summoning attempts.

gg no re
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>>39568724
DP, sorry.
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You decide to sit back and let the committee do most of the talking, offering the occasional suggestion and comment as needed. This affords you the opportunity to study the two mages who appear to have no magic, though you suspect they’ve simply shielded themselves against divination magic.

One of the mages, Magister Kantis, is known as a skilled abjurer. A close examination of him reveals that he has cast a spell that protects him against *most* divination magic. However you can see an array of spells and items similar to the other Magisters on him. He does not appear to have any magical spells or items out of the ordinary.

Magister Lordan however...his spell is far tougher to breach. Even with your considerable magical skill he remains a blank slate, magically speaking, until you use a tiny portion of your godlike power.

[Deific Power -1, now 428]

Magister Lorden is a tall, thin man with a friendly smile. Or so he appears, underneath his magical disguise he appears to be an 8ft-tall muscular humanoid with an impossibly beautiful face and an insect-like carapace on his chest and limbs.

He turns and gives you a slight nod, as Sankya and Magister Ferdurgh argue over punishment specifics. Did Lorden just notice you using your deific powers? What is he?

You don’t know *what* he is, but you can tell he is some sort of supernatural creature like an angel, elemental or demon, just not one you are familiar with.

He has some *very* nasty spells active on him – spells that whilst defensive, would do horrible things to someone who attacked him. Only, they’re not *spells* exactly, they’re...something else.

Thus far he hasn’t done anything sinister; just asking the occasional question in the negotiations.

Your attention is dragged away as you hear someone saying your name.

“Hmm, what?” you ask.
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“I was saying your Majesty” says Magister Ferdurgh, who as the oldest Magister present, appears to be leading the negotiations “That we might be able to agree to a succubi being punished by Oreian Law or by a summoner being liable for crimes he requests. If we agreed to both, a succubi might commit a crime and then claim she was ordered to, landing the summoner in legal trouble whilst escaping punishment herself. We can accept one of these, but not both, you must choose which is more important to you.”

“Don’t mistreat those you summon!” says Hajume “and it won’t be a problem!”

“You assume that a succubi would face a fair trial in Dornmer” points out Oyala “a court could order her executed and the mage merely fined, even once laws are passed assuring succubi rights, prejudice and feat won’t disappear overnight.”

“And an Oreian court might offer only a token punishment” counters Magister Kantis “Whilst a summoner faces much harsher penalties.”

“Then don’t tell us to commit crimes.” Murmurs Fasile, just loud enough to be heard.

Magister Ferdurgh takes a deep breath, his face flushing.

Magister Lorden just...watches.

Your actions?
(general)
>Say nothing
>Both terms are important
>Summoners facing punishment is most important
>Succubi facing Oreian law not local law is most important
>Other (what?)

(regarding Lordin)
>Do nothing, just keep watching him
>Tell the mages what he is
>Tell your guards what he is
>Speak in private
>Other (what?)
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>>39568863
>Succubi facing Oreian law not local law is most important
>Do nothing, just keep watching him
We can ask him later.
After I figured out what he is.
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>>39568894
My guess is that he's a Serec.
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>>39568863
"We have ways of determining if one of our own lies. Mortals, however, have the benefit of largely ineffable free will."
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>>39568863
> Succubi facing Oreian law not local law is most important
I'm not sure how they think this doesn't come down to the same thing. We can always choose to not hold them accountable for deeds commited under contract under oreian law
>Do nothing, just keep watching him
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>>39568863
>>Succubi facing Oreian law not local law is most important

>>Tell your guards what he is
>Speak in private
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>>39568863
>Both terms are important
>If we would decide on treating them under oreian law, that would create a loophole for mages to use succubi to commit crimes and escape punishment themselves, which is clearly not in the interest on anyone involved. Therefore I would think i would be best to have mages be culpable for crimes commited under their orders, and crimes the succubus herself commited to be punished by Oreia. Afterall we could also just decide to punish them under oreian law completly, but that would just damage the host nation.
>Do nothing, just keep watching him
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>>39568863
>>39568978
I would change to this
>>39569046
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>>39568863
>Are you implying that *my* court is unfair or unjust, Magister?
>turn the Halo on.

>do nothing yet

Now we can take offense and react accordingly.
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>>39569046
I will change to this, and add the following:
>If a succubi commits a crime outside of the contract's terms, it won't be held against the summoner.
>But the contract will need to be written and copies offered to both parties, the guild and Oreia. It cannot be refused. Only the parties can read the contract, unless a trial demands it.
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A tie between succubi facing oreian law and both it seems

Breaking in favour of succubi facing Oreian law
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>>39569046
Shame this write-in was two minutes short of the end timer. I would've changed if I had seen it.
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>>39569157
Since the write-in came so late and several people switched, could we get a extension of vote time?
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>>39569084
Changing to >>39569046
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>>39569206
I'm ok with this.

5 minute time extension.

If changing votes, please link back to old vote.
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>>39569033
Changing to >>39569046
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>>39568863
>>39568894
changing to
>Both terms are important
>If we would decide on treating them under oreian law, that would create a loophole for mages to use succubi to commit crimes and escape punishment themselves, which is clearly not in the interest on anyone involved. Therefore I would think i would be best to have mages be culpable for crimes commited under their orders, and crimes the succubus herself commited to be punished by Oreia. Afterall we could also just decide to punish them under oreian law completly, but that would just damage the host nation.
>Do nothing, just keep watching him
>>39569156
Would also like to bring up this part about the recording. To create legal security for both parties.
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>>39569177
Err, voted, not changed. I hadn't voted.

>>39569231
>>39569046
>>39569156
Supporting these.
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“I see both as important” you say “If we would decide on treating them under oreian law, that would create a loophole for mages to use succubi to commit crimes and escape punishment themselves, which is clearly not in the interest on anyone involved. Therefore I would think I would be best to have mages be culpable for crimes committed under their orders, and crimes the succubus herself committed to be punished by Oreia. After all we could also just decide to punish them under oreian law completely, but that would just damage relations with the host nation.”

“And who decides what crimes were requested?” asks Magister Kantis

“If a succubi commits a crime outside of the contract's terms, it won't be held against the summoner.” You say “But the contract will need to be written and copies offered to both parties, the guild and Oreia. It cannot be refused. Only the parties can read the contract, unless a trial demands it.”

Magister Ferdurgh rises slowly to his feet “It seems” he says politely “that we won’t be reaching an agreement today, good day to you.”

The Magisters all file out, leaving you and the committee alone. And leaving you wondering if you made the right choice.

“Don’t worry your Majesty” says Sankya, putting a hand on your shoulder “they always do that when they don’t get there way, it’s just another negotiating tactic.”

She’s probably right, except....why was Magister Lordins true form laughing as he left?

---

That’s it for today, please stand by for Junior Paladin Quest.

This will take a few minutes as I do not have the first post prepped.
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>>39569498
Hmm, the alien wants to keep the succubi in the grey area? Interesting...
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>>39568863
>Succubi facing Oreian law not local law is most important
Could the summoning spell be changed so it doesn't sap will?
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>>39569498
We definitly will have to have a chat with that Lordin before the next negotiations.

Oh joy. I already see it, next few threads nothing but negotiating the legal framework of succubus summoning.
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>>39569578
Laws take a while to be made, man.
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>>39569606
I'm not complaining.
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You are Milerna Jalweyen, angel-blooded and born paladin of Konig. You are 8 years old, and are attending paladin training at a church of Konig school.

http://pastebin.com/RE8br4uf

It’s Happening!

The day is finally here! It’s the last day of your first week as a Paladin cadet and today you and Chesi both will choose which of your extra lessons you will be taking.

The two of you rise early in the morning and after morning exercises head to breakfast with your new friends: Thomas, Michael and Jenny. The five of you sit together as you eat and discuss what topics you want to take. Thomas seems set on Horse-Riding, Jenny and Michael both plan on taking Magical Theory.

“What about you and Chesi?” ask Thomas.

You and Chesi exchange a look “We haven’t decided yet.” You say. And in truth, you haven’t, you’re both split between Magical Theory and Weapons.

Before you can talk much it’s off to your first class of the day: Military Tactics. Fortunately today its almost exciting – it’s all about the orc wars fought years and years ago, and in-between all the boring bits are descriptions of real battles that were actually fought, not just boring theory exercises.

Afterwards, as you and your friends are heading towards your next lesson, you see a bunch of older cadets, maybe 11 years old, down a side corridor, standing around with their heads together. This wouldn’t be unusual except Chesi leans in and whispers to you “They’re up to something bad.”

You know Chesi has pretty accurate *feelings* about people sometimes.

What do you do?

>Ignore them, not your problem
>Talk to them, ask them what’s going on
>Get close, listen in
>Get a teacher
>Other (what?)

And with whom?

>Alone
>With a friend or friends (who?)
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>>39569880
>Get close, listen in
>Chesi
She is the born sneaker here
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>>39569880
>get closer, listen in
>with everyone you know
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>>39569880
>Get close, listen in
>Alone
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>>39569880
>Get close, listen in
>1 friend to back up our story.
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>>39569880
>Get close, listen in
>Chesi
I thought it was Theology and Weapons? I recall Chesi wanting Theology and us wanting Weapons.
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>>39569990
good spot, yes it was, my bad.
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Please roll 1d20 (no mods) for sneaking
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Rolled 8 (1d20)

>>39570138
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Rolled 6 (1d20)

>>39570138
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Rolled 12 (1d20)

>>39570138

abysmal
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Rolled 14 (1d20)

>>39570138
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“C’mon” you say to Chesi “lets find out what bad stuff they’re up to, that’s what paladings would do.”

“Are you sure that’s a good idea?” asks Chesi as the two of you make your excuses to your friends and double back to the side-corridor.

“It’ll be fine” you reassure her “they’ll never see us.”

The two of you hide at the corridor mouth and try to overhear what the older cadets are talking about.

“-really sucks” says one of them “That stupid girl must’ve cheated.”

“Yeah” says another “No one can match you with a sword Gordon, I bet if you fought her again you could really kick her stupid ass.”

“Yeah” says another voice “How about we sort another match for you Gordy, I hear that Little Miss -My dad is *Sir* Thatcher- usually takes a walk at the edge of the forest a perfect time to get her, no teachers and- hey who’s there?!”

You and Chesi hear footsteps coming towards you and you both flee.

“What was that?” asks Chesi, once you’re safely away, almost to your next lesson – Horse Riding.

“I think they’re going to attack someone” you say “like the bullies did with me, but who?”

“That’s wrong” says Chesi to you, as you both grab your saddles and bridles with the other cadets “We should stop them.”

“How?” you say “We don’t even know who they’re going after” Though Sir Thatcher does sound familiar...somehow...

“Hi” says Jenny, heading over to you with Thomas and Michael in tow “Where’d you go?”

What do you do?
>Focus on your lessons, nothing you can do
>Tell the teacher
>Tell your friends
>Try and find the bullies and follow them at lunch time
>Other (what?)
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>>39570360
>Tell your friends
>Ask them if they know a girl whos dads name is Thatcher
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>>39570360
>Tell your friends
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>>39570360
>Tell your friends
>Ask them if they know a girl whose dad's name is Thatcher
>Try and find the bullies and follow them at lunch time
Remove Bullies.
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>>39570360
>Ask your friends about Sir Thatcher
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>>39570360
>Try and find the bullies and follow them at lunch time
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>>39570360
>Ask your friends if they know who the daughter of Sir Thatcher is?
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You look around to make sure no one else can hear you and then you explain to your friends quietly as you all prepare your tack, as you have been taught.

“Why would they do that?” asks Jenny in a confused voice.

Thomas says “It sounds like Gordon got beat by a girl – and no boy likes being beaten by a girl.”

“Whereas some girls *love* being beaten by boys” says Chesi with a smirk. You ignore her, her sense of humour is weird.

“He said she was the daughter of Sir Thatcher” you say.

“That sounds familiar” says Thomas in a thoughtful tone.

“The jousts!” says Michael “There was a big thing about it. A commoner was raised to knight because he won a lot of jousts, he’d pretended to be a knight under a different name and when it was found out he was going to be put in prison but the Duke made him a knight. I remember my dad telling me about this.”

“Ok” says Jenny “but how does that help us?”

“I remember now!” says Thomas “one of the Swordies pointed her out to me – she wears her dads crest all the time, I think her name is Gilyan or something.” Wearing family heraldry isn’t forbidden, but not all cadets bother with it.

“Ok” you say “So she’s an older cadet with a family crest of...what?”

“Like straw and thatch and stuff” says Michael “but what should we do, warn her, tell the teachers?”

“Or help her?” asks Jenny “nobody likes getting hurt.”

“Says yo-” Chesi stops as she sees your look “Yeah we should help her” she adds.

Further discussion is prevented by your lesson, but afterwards, what do you do?

>Nothing
>Warn Gilyan Thatcher
>Tell a teacher
>Find the bullies
>Other (what?)
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>>39570847
>Warn Gilyan Thatcher
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>>39570847
>Warn Gilyan Thatcher
I guess we shouldn't be surprised about Chesi, but still.
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>>39570847
>Warn Gilyan Thatcher
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>>39570847
>Warn Gilyan Thatcher
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>>39570847
>Find the bullies
Percussive diplomacy.
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>>39570911
She was obviously being sarcastic, dude. Like what the fuck, she is fucking 8.
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>>39571059
What the fuck are you even talking about?
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>>39571059
She's a succubus. She probably knows about this kind of thing, no big deal.
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>>39571059
The point was that she knows about this sort of thing at all.
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>>39571095
He is trying to apply real life mortal human modern values to a fictional semen demon individual.
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>>39571159
No, I have just no idea what he means with her being obviously sarcastic.
Its pretty obvious she wasn't. She was just making a joke.
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>>39571194
Ah, sorry, I meant this guy >>39571059 was doing >>39571159
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>>39571059
>>39571130
what boy would want a girlfriend who might at any time be summoned away by a wizard at any time?
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>>39571298
What boy would want a girlfriend that might be called in by her office at any time?
Do succubi even have girl/boyfriends?
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>>39571298
A boy that likes NTR
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>>39571324
>What boy would want a girlfriend that might be called in by her office at any time?
>office
Explain please.
>Do succubi even have girl/boyfriends?
Lots
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>>39571485
>Lots
I doubt it. They don't seem predisposed to such arrangements. Considering how free they are with fucking anyone, what role would such a concept play in their society?
Seems unlikely they would bother to begin with.
Mates, they might have.
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Horse-riding isn’t really your thing. You’re walking funny for a while afterwards, but not as bad as Thomas and Michael.

You have a short break before your next lesson and you say to your friends “I think we should warn Gilyan just in case.”

“Yeah” says Jenny “bullies are mean.”

“I think we should find the bullies and beat them up!” says Thomas with enthusiasm, making his hands into fists.

“And where will the bullies be?” Michael asks Thomas

“Looking for Gilyan, duh” Thomas tells Michael.

“And so if we search for Gilyan....?” asks Michael

“Oh yeah...” says Thomas

“Duh” murmurs Chesi, so quietly only you can hear it.

“Right it’s decided” you say.
---

Finding Gilyan takes most of your break – you need to be heading to your Writing and Maths lesson soon. You finally find her practising with a wooden sword at the training grounds, hacking at a training dummy over and over.

You and your friends hold a swift conference over who is going to approach her, then you are pushed forwards.

Gilyan is an older cadet, like maybe 12 or something. She is tall and has lean arms and legs, and wields her sword confidently. She has long blond hair that’s tied back and a pale face that’s flushed with exertion.

“Uh, Gilyan?” you ask, it might not be her after all, and that heraldry on her should might not be thatch.

She turns to look at you, lowering her wooden sword, and gives you a tired smile.

“Are you lost?” she asks, looking down at you “Where is your next lesson?”

“Umm, Maths” you say, craning your neck to look up at her as she walks over to you, wow she’s tall “But I heard some bullies are going to come after you at lunchtime at the woodland, I think one of them is called Gordon.”

Gilyans face contorts and she looks angry, huffing out “him again! Ugh!” She pats the top of your head and you feel a little shy “Thanks” she says “What’s your name?”

Your friends are a little ways away “Mili” you say “Mili Jalweyen.”
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Gilyan pauses, then says “Thanks Mili, I’ll keep a look out.”

“But there’s lots of them!” you say earnestly “I could help, I‘m a good fighter and-”

Gilyan bends down until she’s face to face “Gordon and his gang are too tough for you.” she says “I can handle them.”

You open your mouth to argue, then Jenny says “Mili we need to go, or we’ll be late.”
---
Later, towards the end of Writing and Maths, Chesi is explaining stuff to you “I think Gilyan knows she can’t win, but she won’t let you get hurt too.”

“Why?” you ask, as the two of you put your slates away.

“If you were going to get hurt” says Chesi “would you want someone else getting hurt with you?”

“I suppose not” you agree, as you join up with your friends and head to lunch. This is confusing, if Gilyan is going to get hurt, why not run, or tell a teacher?

Thomas has Michael in a headlock “You take that back you coward!” he growls.

Jenny sighs “boys” and rolls her eyes. You’re not sure what they’re fighting about.

You recall Gilyan is going to be walking alone at the edge of the woodland, at least, that’s where Gordon and his friends are going to be.

What do you do?
>Nothing (lunch, then lessons)
>Tell a teacher
>Go help Gilyan
>Other (what?)

And with whom?
>Alone
>with friends (who?)
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>>39571586
>Tell a teacher
>with all friends
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>>39571586
>Go help Gilyan
>with everyone that wants to come
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>>39571586
>Go help Gilyan
>Our group (opt in, people don't want to come, they don't have to)
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>>39571586
>Go help Gilyan
>with chesi
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>>39571586
>Go help Gilyan
>Have Jenny tell a teacher
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>>39571586
>Tell a teacher
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>>39571586
>>Go help Gilyan
>>Alone
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>>39571521
IIRC, they don't really equate sex and romance quite like humans. They have pseudo-marriages which have extremely deep romantic connections due to the fact that part of their pairing process involves knowing literally everything about your significant other. Sexual exclusivity is kind of a foreign concept to them, but some Oreian succubi have adopted it and other human sexual mannerisms, such as not talking about sex in front of kids.
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>>39571586
>>Go help Gilyan
>>Alone
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writing help, with everyone who wants to come.

Will be final update of the thread tonight.

roll 1d20 to see how well you do the thing
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Rolled 1 (1d20)

>>39571849
Accidentally holy weapon?
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Rolled 5 (1d20)

>>39571849
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Rolled 11 (1d20)

>>39571829
Thats what I meant with having mates, yes.
They do have "relationships", as we've seen with that one pair during our excursion into hell.

>>39571849
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>>39571861
>>39571876
Nice knowing you, Mili...
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>>39572232
A single 1 doesn't mean anything in this system. Crit fails are only two 1s or three.
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>>39572260
...I don't know how, but I read that 11 as 1...
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“We can’t let her fight them alone” you say to your friends “I’m going to help – who is coming with?”

Chesi raises her hand, as does Thomas, his other arm still around Michaels neck, Michael says “I’m coming, if Thomas lets go.” Thomas obliges.

Jenny looks unsure “I guess, I’m in too” she says.
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Finding Gilyan isn’t as easy as you thought it would be, you search for most of lunchtime before seeing a group of boys at the edge of the woodlands playing, no, fighting. As you get closer you can see them surrounding someone, taking turns to swing at the person using sticks.

As you get loser still, you can see that Gilyan is fighting a large boy, Gordon maybe? Both have wooden practise swords, but even as Gilyan fights the other boys around her swing at her with sticks, stopping her from fighting very well.

You wonder about trying talking when Thomas yells out “You’re all cowards!” and charges into one of the older boys.

With a shrug, Michael charges after him, and some of the older boys turn to face you, then its a fight.

It all gets mixed up and confusing but you think you’re winning, until you get hit in the head with a thick heavy stick and everything goes fuzzy....
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You have an older boy pinned down on his back and you’re pounding on his face, his nose streaming blood and your fists stained red.

Something is weighing on you, you turn around to face your attacker, only to see that it’s Chesi, something is wrong, she’s looking like she normally looks, outside of school with wings and a tail and horns. She’s not supposed to do that in school you think. She has her arms and wings around you and is saying to you “It’s ok Mili, we won, you can stop fighting now.”

You look around. The bullies are all on the floor groaning, except for two running away. Thomas and Michael are on the floor with their arms wrapped around their heads, you think Thomas is crying.

Jenny looks like she’s sleep-walking, heading towards a groaning bully, her hands are glowing white.

And Gilyan...

Gilyan is on her feet, her practise sword in her hands, and a cut on her forehead streaming blood down her face. She has her sword in a two-handed grip and is a few feet away, pointing her sword at you, the tip is shaking slightly.

“What are you?” she asks, sounding scared “What is she?” She nods towards Chesi

You look down at you blood-stained hands, it happened again...

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And thread ends. Thanks for playing. It won’t all be Mili fighting bullies, different stuff will be happening soon, I swear.

Next thread in 12 hours.
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>>39572343
Oh joy.
Thanks for running Pally.

Curious if the next sequence of Little paladin follows right after this or wif we get a timeskip again.
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>>39572343
thanks for the thread. See you in twelve hours.
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>>39572343
>Next thread in 12 hours.
Sweet.
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Great fucking thread Pally! You're aces, thanks for running!



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