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>>40722038
Date: Near midnight on March 22nd, 1961PC

You focused your eyes on the bright light on the far side of the bridge, aware that the soldiers that should have been raising the alarm due to such a strange sight were awfully quiet. The enormous armoured and cloaked figure that was emitting the enormous wings of white light was clearly Raphael, making yet another theatrical appearance. You hoped that the reason your soldiers weren’t doing anything was because they realised it was pointless and not because the archangel had done something.

You blinked and in that time Raphael had clearly grown bored of merely standing there. The light of his wings shot towards you and the enormous figure just slightly less than twice your height stops just short of you, his wings flaring out further as if they were gripping something. The dark mass beneath his hood stares down at you.

“Talon York, I have need to speak with you,” he booms in your home tongue, those strange echoes of that other alien language barely audible. “If you are free-“

Raphael pauses suddenly, his head turning to look at Undine. For several very long moments he stares at Undine, who is very noticeably rumpled and not completely dressed. She flushes from embarrassment at the attention but is clearly not in a state to say much, which isn’t surprising because neither are you.

Then, as if nothing happened, Raphael turns back to you and resumes his spiel, “As I was saying, if you are free then I wish to discuss some proposals. Should you have... other matters to attend to then I am happy to wait the night.”

>continued

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>>40722049
You frown at that. “If you’re going to come all the way here, I’m not about to shoo you away so quickly.”

“Time is no problem, currently,” Raphael says, straightening slightly as he stares up at your keep far beyond. “Now that your dominion is active I can reside here as necessary, so long as you do not oppose my doing so.”

It’s hard to think of a way to react to that, namely because you don’t exactly know how your dominion enables the archangel the stay here longer than normal. Or why Raphael can’t stray far from the Barrier for very long – though this was the first time he’d admitted as such, as Sylvian had only had a suspicion it was true.

“Sala and Lynn would probably appreciate it if you didn’t leave them alone for too much longer,” Undine whispers to you, though Raphael clearly notices and tilts his head for whatever reason.

Finding it impossible to read the archangel, you make your decision as to whether to take care of Raphael’s matters, which will likely be lengthy if he’s suggesting putting it off in the first place.

>1. Put Raphael off until tomorrow. You’re interested to see what happens when he spends the night in Harrowmont.
>2. Speak with Raphael tonight. You’re not too keen to let him stay here for too long or delay such an important matter.
>3. Custom

>>40722077
>>1. Put Raphael off until tomorrow. You’re interested to see what happens when he spends the night in Harrowmont.

Do it for science.

>>40722077
>1. Put Raphael off until tomorrow. You’re interested to see what happens when he spends the night in Harrowmont.
This could be a great opportunity to learn something about him without speaking to him.

>>40722077
>1. Put Raphael off until tomorrow. You’re interested to see what happens when he spends the night in Harrowmont.

I want to see Raphael in the hotsprings, not even really relaxing just kinda there

>>40722077
>>1. Put Raphael off until tomorrow. You’re interested to see what happens when he spends the night in Harrowmont.

>>40722077
>>1. Put Raphael off until tomorrow. You’re interested to see what happens when he spends the night in Harrowmont.

Maybe we'll pick up on why he can stick around near the source, in case he ever comes knocking to kill us, it'd be great to know how to tell him to fuck off with it

>>40722077
>>2. Speak with Raphael tonight. You’re not too keen to let him stay here for too long or delay such an important matter.

1. Put Raphael off until tomorrow. You’re interested to see what happens when he spends the night in Harrowmont.

You've piqued my interest.

Huh, we never did set up a Governor or two in Shropham. We should probably do that soon.

>>40722245
I assume we picked some random noble. Maybe someone Sarah or Phillis recommended.
>>40722077
1.
Also, I assume that the enemy military sheet is hideously outdated?

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>>40722245
Military is probably bit more important (I've merely been assuming Shropham has a governor or governing council), to be honest. I'm going to take up a suggestion to have a standard legion instead of the production method now (which doesn't really work now that you're able to outproduce your budget). Basically, a standard 10k legion with a prefixed split of the standard troop types (e.g. AA, HMK, MMK, Siege Archers) and some special generals may have different legions.

Anyway, it's clear that 1 is the most popular so I'm writing that.

>>40722143
I don't think Raphael would slip into the hotsprings any time soon.

You know I've been thinking. It's likely that Falwick and the Guard are going to start their shit up at relatively the same time, and we're going to stretch our army thin trying to handle all of them at once.

Luckily with Falwick we had the League to help us, but the Guard seems to be more of an attack of opportunity. I'm of the opinion when it comes to the Guard we should be conservative in our expansion and only go for Balkarin and strengthening the borders of Shropham and the latter while the rest of the civil war in the Guard plays out. I'd kind of like to avoid opening a front with Ember unless it's more on our terms and in a stronger position of strength, not trying to rebuild right after a two front war.

I'd say we should commit further to handling with Falwick, taking both of his territories, and trying to occupy and finagle Gespad into our fold as well. Having the League to help us with this will make it significantly easier.

>>40722329
>Basically, a standard 10k legion with a prefixed split of the standard troop types (e.g. AA, HMK, MMK, Siege Archers) and some special generals may have different legions.

That sounds far more efficient on your end. I'd go ahead and do that.

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>>40722395
Raphael is about to throw a spanner in the works regarding that. Plus, what makes you think you'd only have two fronts to worry about?

>>40722329
> I'm going to take up a suggestion to have a standard legion instead of the production method now.

Been hoping for that. Building an army like we have so far feels kind of like just slapping troops together without a mind to how long they may have fought or anything. Standardized legions almost always work better for both tracking and military efficiency.

>>40722436
>Posts a picture of Halim while talking about a spanner

I'm still wondering when that guy will show up again.

Oh shit son, new Ranger Orders in Shropham, Termina, and Taour. Interesting note about the Shropham Order though.

>>40722470
I'm wondering if Talon wears his hat

>>40722395
Dont forget about Fenix helping when Falwick attacks. I can see this entire scenario playing out like this.
1 Guard breaks into civil war
2 TYE joins aiding Syl's faction
3 Falwick assaults us and is removed or removes himself from the RSK
4 The RSK attacks Falwick
5 The Mage League crumbles as all external threats besides Malataine and the Lords have been removed
6 Darvui and Farlou ally and take the fight to Fenix

>>40722470
With Blackwater and zombie magister Smith. They will recruit people we defeat in a league of evil type situation.

>>40722567
I would hope the ranger order would spread. We are getting more arcane archers which means we need more orders to stick them in as they prove skills.

>>40722612
>5 The Mage League crumbles as all external threats besides Malataine and the Lords have been removed

I wish anon. I wish ;_;.

Most likely we will have to go full social war to win over the league unless we can somehow make the separatists think Talon wouldn't mind a split without pissing off the archmage.

>>40722612
>6 Darvui and Farlou ally and take the fight to Fenix

From the looks of it Darvui doesn't give a shit about Fenix at all. He doesn't even rule his land he just does Illuminati things.

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>1.

“Well, if you’re happy to wait for a night then I’ll take care of my other matters,” you say, mostly interested in what Raphael might be like spending the night here. “I’m not one to keep a lady waiting.”

“I have my doubts about the veracity of that statement,” Raphael says almost immediately, drawing his wings in close. “Do you have some means to reach the keep quickly? It would be ill-advised for me to enter there without you and I suspect you would not appreciate the offer of being carried.”

“I already have people who do that, so I’ll pass,” you say dryly. “This would be a good time for Karise to-“

“I’m here,” comes the voice of your fox spymaster as she teleports next to you, causing Undine to jump. “I’ll need to make two trips to take Undine.”

“I can take her,” Raphael says. “Just not Talon.”

You shrug at that and split with Undine, who looks more interested than cautious and mumbles something about Gnome mentioning this. Waiting for Raphael to teleport, you watch as his wings close around himself and Undine, before glowing brightly and forming a cocoon of light. Then they’re gone and a moment later so are you as you feel the slight warping sensation of Karise’s teleportation.

“I’ve already advised the soldiers of your visit,” Karise tells Raphael.

“Advise them that I will remain the night. I assume you have a room available underground, near the Source?” Raphael says, turning to you for the latter question.

“I’m sure that one can be arranged,” you say smoothly.

As it was, it wasn’t much trouble. Especially because the servants had to pass through the great hall to go underground and had to see the enormous archangel whose room they would be preparing. Given the usual state of the rooms down here, you were amazed at how well the stone polished up. You swore that it was cleaner than your room.

>cont

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>>40722877
“They set up a bed. That’s good,” Raphael seems to mumble, though his voice still rings in your ears. “Sometimes they forget that.”

“I don’t think it will support your weight,” you say.

“I don’t always look like this,” he says, shrugging exagerratedly to emphasise the bulky armour he’s wearing. “I shall see you of the morning, Talon York. Do try not to exhaust yourself too much, I’d prepare if your mind were active. My matters are not light.”

It’s more than an hour later when Raphael’s existence comes back to mind, your thoughts having mostly been on the two fiery women in your room. Both Gnome and Sylvian are lurking in the hot springs, speaking quietly to each other and they remind you of his presence.

“I’ve never actually seen him outside of that armour,” Sylvian complains. “I had hoped he might be lured here.”

“That would normally happen, but I suspect Raphael is being more cautious right now,” Gnome says, looking at you and waving you in.

Joining them, you say, “You’ve seen him under the armour? What’s he like? Any competition?”

Gnome laughs. “That depends on who you’re competing for. Still, he’s warded his room so it’s not as simple as just walking in on him like I did centuries ago. You’d probably need to do a more daring raid.”

“I hope you’re not being serious,” Sylvian mutters, shaking her head.

You, on the other hand…

>1. Are you very interested. Propose a ‘daring raid’ on Raphael’s quarters. Hopefully the archangel won’t react poorly should you manage to get inside and see his ‘true form’.
>2. Talk to the pair about Raphael’s presence here and what is likely means.
>3. Ask them about some of the oddities of Raphael’s power. His voice, why he wouldn’t teleport with you…
>4. Custom

>>40722901
>>3. Ask them about some of the oddities of Raphael’s power. His voice, why he wouldn’t teleport with you…

>>40722901
>>1. Are you very interested. Propose a ‘daring raid’ on Raphael’s quarters. Hopefully the archangel won’t react poorly should you manage to get inside and see his ‘true form’.

>>40722901
>3. Ask them about some of the oddities of Raphael’s power. His voice, why he wouldn’t teleport with you…

Asp ETA on that FTB?

>>40722901
3

>>40722901
>3. Ask them about some of the oddities of Raphael’s power. His voice, why he wouldn’t teleport with you…

>>40722901
>1. Are you very interested. Propose a ‘daring raid’ on Raphael’s quarters. Hopefully the archangel won’t react poorly should you manage to get inside and see his ‘true form’.
Oh hell, yes.

>>40722901
>>3. Ask them about some of the oddities of Raphael’s power. His voice, why he wouldn’t teleport with you…

>>40722901
>3. Ask them about some of the oddities of Raphael’s power. His voice, why he wouldn’t teleport with you…

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>>40723053

>>40723095
I bet he wears a thong under all that armor.

>>40722901
>1. Are you very interested. Propose a ‘daring raid’ on Raphael’s quarters. Hopefully the archangel won’t react poorly should you manage to get inside and see his ‘true form’.
Even if he gets pissed, we can at least let him know that it's all in good fun. Even Archangels should loosen up and have a bit of "fun".

>>40723095
Literally the first thing that popped into my head. And christ was that weird.

Calling it now Raph is perceived physically different being to being and Talon would seem them as the most beautiful woman to ever exist.

>mfw looking at the population differences between Harrowmont and all our cities

What the hell man, Harrowmont seems so tiny by comparison.

>>40723269
it has been a city for way shorter then the rest since it was just a big fortress when we got it

>>40723269
I know! What do we have to do to make that shit grow? Opera house? Coliseum? Bungee jumping?

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>>40723002
No.

>>40723269
Harrowmont has more population than suggested (I've been putting off a proper discussion/reading with architectanon for no proper reason) but it is smaller. It's a fortress rather than a city - keep in mind that none of your cities are truly walled or fully protected. Taour was, but only when it was an arcology-style city and has now spread out more.

>>40723163
>The most beautiful woman he has yet to fuck

FTFY

>>40723269
It isn't really a trade hub or anything. Really the biggest reason I think it grew was that Talon was there and he brought his army with him which had enough money to bring in merchants.

>>40723336
>>40723357
I guess it's ok to have harrowmont be our Vatican/north pole/pentagon with magic beings living within and griffin patterns prowling the streets as enforcers, it'll give it a really emerald city type vibe

>>40723329
>Coliseum?

I hope we get Talon to do this one day. Just because I can just see him sitting in some booth watching fighters beat the shit out of of each other.

Decent way to test out warriors and to get money putting on shows.

>>40723406
> emerald city

So a normal city that people wears glasses in to make it long strange?

> griffin patterns prowling the streets as enforcers

I honestly can't wait till we get the Valkyries in all honesty. Griffin patterns are useful but I"m more interested in a flying unit that can mid battle switch to a HMK or a LMK. Makes for an excellent combo with the Griffins as well.

>>40723469
How about...Griffin-mounted Valkyrie cops?

>>40723520
Don't forget to add the dragon template on the valkyrie.

>>40723329
>Coliseum?
Definitely going to happen I've set that into my plans for the next expansion.

>Opera house?
I definitely would like to do that. I have a particular love for cultural architecture. I might try to add something like that in.

>I guess it's ok to have harrowmont be our Vatican
I've actually been trying to build towards that. Only with more of a glorious walled in city to put others to shame bend. Does need more wondrous buildings though and interesting landmarks.

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hey there. I've been lurking in this quest for quite some time, and some of the things I've read have been pretty inspirational. So I'm dropping off this here concept drawing of a Great Sword Design for Talon with Harrowmont's keep and Griffin emblem in mind. enjoy.

>>40723530
And the pattern equivalent of a fox's fluffy tails.

>>40723520
Not really sure why people want people to ride the Griffins. Valkyries can already fly so having them both split would give more range.

Though now I'm cracking up at the mental image of some Valkyrie yelling "Halt! Halt! Halt!"

>>40723552
Oh, looks good. I don't know if the sword was ever detailed or if I merely forgot (or if we are just using the OP pic for Talon's armor/sword), but I hope we can use your design.

>>40723592
Also speaking of Patterns I keep having an idea for one. Basically a Rat or a Roach with a hivemind that can slip anywhere and eat all a foes food or read their reports while no one is around.

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>3.

Whilst it would be lying to suggest that you weren’t interested in seeing Raphael’s true form, you were also wary of angering him. That, and you also didn’t know what you would see. By speaking with some of the older beings near you, including the two relaxing by your side in the hot spring, you had heard some stories about Samael. In some, the Archangel of Death was a rather buxom young woman with black hair of Lynn’s height. In others, a very sharp looking young man with silver hair who was nearly as tall as yourself. Both forms had jet black wings that seemed to suck in light from around them and were fitting for her title.

Given those stories, you suspected that the Archangels may not have a ‘true form’ or that it’s not so easy to discern. Raphael had referred to Samael as his sister, so that at least solidified how the latter self-identified, but that told you nothing about Raphael himself. As such, you figured to let sleeping dogs lie. For now.

“So, leaving aside whatever Raphael may look like under his armour,” you say, eliciting a click of the tongue from Gnome, “what about some of his oddities? Like that voice – it sounds like he’s speaking to me in my home tongue, from Carrthrus, but I hear whispers of another.”

“That’s the Angelic Tongue,” Sylvian says, to Gnome’s surprise. “When angels speak in angelic they do so in a coded fashion, which causes listeners to hear the words in their original tongue. It’s an effective way to communicate with many people, given that everybody will understand what is being said.”

“A coded fashion?” Gnome asks, looking confused.

“That’s how Sirion spoke of it to me centuries ago,” Sylvian says, speaking of one of the ancient Angel Lords. “They don’t speak angelic normally, like I have done sometimes. Rather they actually speak in a way that distorts reality – a minor use of their astral power, I suppose.”

>continued

>>40723638

I think at one point Aspir off handedly mentioned that Talon goes through swords like tissues. But yeah I agree we should get something next level for Talon soon.

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>>40723693
“What about teleportation?” you ask, finding it interesting that Sylvian knows far more than Gnome. “Raphael wouldn’t teleport with me.”

“Possibly because he feared his power interacting with yours,” Sylvian says, sounding uncertain. “I don’t know how angels teleport, but I do know it’s theoretically impossible to prevent them teleporting somewhere with wards. Some of the written legends of my kind, dating back to the Cataclysm, speak of the archangels, typically Azrael, being able to teleport into the midst of infernal fortresses and slay their generals. Possibly that mechanism makes it dangerous to teleport another astral power user? Especially one that may have touched Pandemonium, which is the polar opposite of everything the angels stand for.”

You frown at that, not liking the idea of Raphael being able to teleport anywhere. You wondered if your dominion could stop that. Probably not, if the infernals couldn’t.

“Well, what about-“ you start to say but are interrupted.

“If you’re going to talk about me, you could at least invite me,” comes a rather sweet sounding voice from the entrance.

You turn to look and see a young woman with golden hair and wearing little else. She looks rather skittish, in contrast to how confident her voice had sounded. Is that-

“Gabriel? But how are you-“ Gnome starts to say, sounding shocked, but then her voice becomes annoyed. "Oh, so you’re taking on one of your old subordinates forms instead of your own.”

“It’s not like he’s around to complain,” says the woman as she slowly makes her way to the hot spring, eyes darting between the three of you.

>How do you react?

>>40723638
I've never really detailed the sword. I could merge the drawing (which is pretty nifty) into a more specific blade, however. With the Magic Battery research you can now start producing more powerful enchanted items.

>>40723551
>I definitely would like to do that. I have a particular love for cultural architecture. I might try to add something like that in.

I'd honestly think it would be more interesting to go for something a little more unique then just opera.

Maybe a large cathedral like building that houses many forms of art? Like one area has singing, The other has plays based on events from the empire, and other historical narratives, Another one has Paintings.

That way Talon could directly sponsor many forms of art without directly looking at them all at once. Could also be used to fund propaganda as needed.

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>>40723743
>“It’s not like he’s around to complain,” says the woman as she slowly makes her way to the hot spring, eyes darting between the three of you.

>>40722329
>I don't think Raphael would slip into the hotsprings any time soon.

>>40723743
Don't pop a boner, don't look everywhere, eyes on the face.

>>40723743

Start laughing because of
>>40722877
>I have my doubts about the veracity of that statement,” Raphael says almost immediately

>>40723743
I assumed we basically got a new blade from a Grand Magester level elf.
"To be fair, you usually aren't particularly forthcoming."

>>40723743
>"So, did you choose that form because you want to remain mysterious or because you need of me?"

>>40723783
dude opera is high level stuff

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>>40723787
I changed my mind, mostly because I realised that talking about Raphael's abilities is more boring than actually talking to him or seeing some of them in action.

>>40723587
That's a long way off - the foxes are very complicated to replicate. Their tails work together very well - Mal would need to develop generators that actually work synergistically.

>>40723743
Pick up jaw off of ground before we drown.

>>40723743
Welp.
>Invite him/her over. Put the charm on. Time to seduce some divinities.

Let Raph come in freely and find where she wants to sit herself. I'm interested who she would sit closest to and thus be the most comfortable with.

>>40723743
Just stare for about ten or fifteen seconds. Then turn to Gnome and the dragon. Then turn back and ask what the hell is happening in deadpan.

>>40723743
So...should I refer to you as He or She right now? Do you even have a natural appearance?

>>40723743
"And I thought you were all work and no play."

>>40723886
Never been a fan. Always more of a low brow play or a Clown performance man myself.

>>40723743
"How about a permanent room here?"
"Im taking it you are here for pleasure, not business, or else you would have waited until tomorrow. Why the disguise, though?"

>>40723913
I'm sensing an ulterior motive. Given that s/he walked in on Talon mid-coitus and then later decides to walk in on Talon in the hotsprings, I'd say that s/he was suddenly reminded that it's been centuries since s/he got laid and now wants some dickings.

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>>40723743
>“Possibly because he feared his power interacting with yours,”

>>40723783

I might be able to do something like that, I have a few major buildings to work with in the next update so I'll play with some sort of cultural center, but I do love opera houses personal.

>>40723743
>"What."

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REACTION VOTE
>1. Play it cool. Stare at her/his face and say, "To be fair, you usually aren't particularly forthcoming."
>2. Teasing. You only live once. Invite her(?) into the hot spring and say, "And I thought you were all work and no play."
>3. Surprised. Mostly. Ask Gnome and Sylvian just what the hell is happening.
>4. Custom

>>40724029
>Given that s/he walked in on Talon mid-coitus
That's not true - it's more that Undine didn't fully dress herself after the performance under the bridge, probably because she was going to follow Talon back to his room. Raphael's appearances are more theatrical - appearing in your keep when you return; standing at the site you slew Belrauth at until you came.

>>40724092
>>2. Teasing. You only live once. Invite her(?) into the hot spring and say, "And I thought you were all work and no play."

>>40724092
>3. Surprised. Mostly. Ask Gnome and Sylvian just what the hell is happening.

>>40724092
>3. Surprised. Mostly. Ask Gnome and Sylvian just what the hell is happening.

>>40723551
Some ideas to add to your list
Parthenon stlye building with statues of Talon and all of his key advisors and retiinue
Statue of liberty/colossus of rhodes style "statue of conquest" in Talons image
Imperial stellar observatory
Imperial arboretum/zoo

>>40724092
>>1. Play it cool. Stare at her/his face and say, "To be fair, you usually aren't particularly forthcoming."

I can't see Talon letting something this basic screw with him. At this point I think if a demon lord was to fly out from under his bed he would just raise an eyebrow.

>Raphael's appearances are more theatrical - appearing in your keep when you return; standing at the site you slew Belrauth at until you came.

I thought it was really amusing when Raphael just paused stared at Undine for a few seconds then went right back to the speech.

>>40724092
>2. Teasing. You only live once. Invite her(?) into the hot spring and say, "And I thought you were all work and no play."

>>40724092
>>2. Teasing. You only live once. Invite her(?) into the hot spring and say, "And I thought you were all work and no play."

You know, I'd like Talon to /not/ hit on someone with tits and ass for once. This "womanizing" reputation has gone too far.

>>40723890
>Mal would need to develop generators that actually work synergistically.
Sounds like a challenge.
But I can't really suppport that idea because it could take the foxes' niche away from them, and depower them a lot.

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>>40724092
>>3. Surprised. Mostly. Ask Gnome and Sylvian just what the hell is happening.

>>40724169
dude its a freaking angel live a little, theres no guarantee she'll be receptive

>>40724092
>4. Custom
Vaguely surprised but not shocked, as sort of dry humor thing. "Huh, ... well I never would have guessed."

>>40724092
>3. Surprised. Mostly. Ask Gnome and Sylvian just what the hell is happening.

>>40724143
>Parthenon stlye building with statues of Talon and all of his key advisors and retiinue

Don't really like this one too much. Doesn't really have much point.

>Statue of liberty/colossus of rhodes style "statue of conquest" in Talons image

Or this one.

>Imperial stellar observatory

Love this one a lot. Get some magic enchanted telescopes and look to the skies.

>Imperial arboretum/zoo

Another great one. Especially with the colony in the Islands giving access to wildlife not native to the main landmass.

How do we get Astral Bombs?

>>40724169
Why do you hate fun? I enjoy this trait of his, makes him more believable.

>>40724216
what kind of emporer would we be without at least /one/ massive statue in our honor

>>40724092
>2. Teasing. You only live once. Invite her(?) into the hot spring and say, "And I thought you were all work and no play."
Let's get us some angel wings.

>>40724143

I try to avoid outright displays devoted to Talon's ego. And I'm actually less of a Roman/Greek styling type of guy. But I'll think about ways to work some of them.

>>40724169
He hasn't hit on Nate or Karise. Honestly with Tssuchi it was more she hit on him first and he hasn't tried the elf queen or Aladria.

>>40724270
>I try to avoid outright displays devoted to Talon's ego.

This is a decent idea. I can't really see Talon doing that unless it has a purpose. The memorial idea has one. Just a random statue doesn't have as much bang.

>>40724280
at some point we need to bang aladria

>>40724270
>I try to avoid outright displays devoted to Talon's ego.
Dude named an empire after himself. Anything else pales in comparison.

>>40724326
>tfw she just gives a fuckload of hickeys and doesn't actually do anything

>Talon has the most disappointed look on his face in the history of looks on faces.

No way, bro.

>>40724216
we should def have a tomb of the unknown soldier, and a vietnam wall type memorial of everyone who dies defending harrowmont, including its initial conquerers

>>40724326
>>40724280
>>40724229
>>40724169
>inb4 Talon gains too many women in his harem his schedule is nothing but dickings 24/7. woe to his pelvis and penis

>>40724358
not gonna lie that would be funny

>>40724326
Never anon. My waifu must remain pure. Otherwise she couldn't be my waifu.

>>40724349
Funny enough this is also true. You can't really beat that.

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Teasing it is. Writing.

>>40724146
>I thought it was really amusing when Raphael just paused stared at Undine for a few seconds then went right back to the speech.
He expected you to come to meet him after your guards report his appearance, not to climb up from the bridge after screwing your Champion. Hence the 'What the hell?' reaction.

>>40724280
Didn't he technically NTR Ren?

>>40724410
was s/he suddenly reminded that it's been centuries since s/he got laid? Because it's honestly amusing to imagine his/her thought process during the seven second pause in speech when s/he put 2 and 2 together

>>40724447
no

>>40724447
no ren fucks a few chicks on the side so it is fine the only bad thing is she did not tell ren after talon told her too

>>40724475
They don't own genitals

>>40724322
>The memorial idea has one. Just a random statue doesn't have as much bang.

And neither of those things I really have any input outside of suggesting locations. They're both small cosmetics and things people can suggest here and there if Aspir wants to put it in or not.

>Dude named an empire after himself. Anything else pales in comparison.

Yeah that's pretty much my entire reasoning. I tend to have my suggestions lean more towards griffon and the grandiose structures. The dwarven expansion is going to really show that off.

>>40724447
That was more Noah jumping him and him being too lazy to do anything after she failed to tell Ren. Though at this rate I expect he'll probably eventually bring it up around Ren and Vad.

>>40724528
i def like the idea of a concert hall

Though speaking of Grandiose things. I kind of wonder what Sarah's child's last name is now. Is it a York or a Hawkins?

Sarah and Talon aren't married technically making it a child out of wedlock. On the other hand Talon writes all the rules.

>>40724654
I've been guessing Hawkins, because he stands to inherit the Noble house either way.

>>40724654
maybe it starts of as a hawkins, and if he finds him to be a worthy succesor he takes on talons last name

can we talk about changing talons last name?

>>40724707
>can we talk about changing talons last name?

I think we're pretty committed to York at this point.

>>40724707
>can we talk about changing talons last name?

Never anon. Never. Someone calling Talon's family "The Yorks." Is too amusing to me.

Or well maybe after becoming emperor of the world. I could see Talon thinking of renaming himself once he hits that point just to show his new identity as the true emperor.

>>40724693
That was my thoughts too. Foxes don't even have last names so from the looks of it no one will inherit his last name.

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>1.

You’re pretty sure that’s Raphael. You’re also pretty sure that’s not her real set of tits, as nice as they are. Still, you only live once and who are you to complain when something like this falls into your lap?

“And I thought you were all work and no play. Why don’t you come join us?” you ask lightly, leaning back against the edge of the hot spring.

The cavern goes silent. Three pairs of eyes bore into you, only one of which is younger than a millennium. It wouldn’t be an exaggeration to say three thousand years of experience piled upon you out of surprise. A small part of you wishes that was four thousand years. Or perhaps five thousand, if you can ever meet Samael and get her in here alongside your fluffy empress.

“I see that the books didn’t exaggerate this part,” Raphael says, giving you an old smile and tilting her head in a familiar manner. She walks towards the hot spring, looking more confident than earlier. “Though I have to admit I wasn’t expecting you to be so quick.”

“I think that goes for the three of us,” Gnome grumbles. “You don’t even know what he looks like and you’re still hitting on him.”

“It’s kind of worrying that you still say ‘he’ even though I can clearly see that she lacks the requisite parts,” you say, staring at a normally private part of a woman.

“I’m whatever you want me to be,” Raphael says with a wink, then pauses. “But not really. This is just more convenient.”

>continued

Though this conversation does give me a hilarious mental image. If Talon does research the life extending magic I keep seeing his kids having kids who have kids.

Eventually Talon just walks into rooms and hears nothing but "Grandfather." "Great Great grandfather." "Great great great grandfather." "Great great great great grandfather" Down a massive chain that makes him feel ancient.

>>40724793
>Foxes don't even have last names
Don't they have clans instead?

>>40724763
CAN WE PLEASE FOUND A CITY NAMED NEW YORK

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>>40724845
“And amusing from my perspective,” Sylvian says, leaning against you and speaking into your ear. “Gabriel was the old Chief Primarch – he used to alternate between male and female forms every decade or so. This is his female form.”

Ah, now it makes a little bit of sense. Although Raphael was currently in a female form that was clearly not his own, it was also one that belonged to an angel that Sylvian thought of as a ‘he’ despite how… buxom this form looked right now.

Raphael dips her rather delicate foot into the water next to Gnome before nodding but before she slips in she glances at Gnome and frowns. Putting her arms over her breasts with a sudden harrumph, she instead wanders over and slips in on the other side of Sylvian. You raise an eyebrow at that.

“I used to tease Gabriel when he looked like this,” Gnome admits, shrugging with a smile.

“So, what things about me did you want to talk about?” Raphael asks, looking rather relaxed in the hot spring and steadfastly ignoring your earlier flirting and current male gaze.

>1. Focus on this current power of shapeshifting(?). As well as why Raphael is even here.
>2. Continue teasing Raphael. You want to see what will happen.
>3. Completely change the topic and ask about Saareg. He was male and it would be interesting what Raphael’s perspective of his was.
>4. Custom

>>40724875
>>3. Completely change the topic and ask about Saareg. He was male and it would be interesting what Raphael’s perspective of his was.

>>40724864
That's not really a last name and talons are born clanless.

You can also shift clans so it's not like it's a solid thing either.

>>40724875
>3. Completely change the topic and ask about Saareg. He was male and it would be interesting what Raphael’s perspective of his was.

>>40724845
>“I’m whatever you want me to be,” Raphael says with a wink

Everytime we meet I get another reason to like Raphael

>>40724875
>2. Continue teasing Raphael. You want to see what will happen.

>>40724875
>4. First open up with: "Which gender do you usually prefer to be in?" then change the topic and ask about Saareg. He was male and it would be interesting what Raphael’s perspective of his was.

This entire situation is ridiculous. I'm not even sure how to react to this.

>>40724875
>3. Completely change the topic and ask about Saareg. He was male and it would be interesting what Raphael’s perspective of his was.

>>40724875
>3. Completely change the topic and ask about Saareg. He was male and it would be interesting what Raphael’s perspective of his was.

>>40724875
>2. Continue teasing Raphael. You want to see what will happen.
I can't not choose this.
>>40724865
Only when Talon's kids are born.

>>40724875
>3. Completely change the topic and ask about Saareg. He was male and it would be interesting what Raphael’s perspective of his was.

>>40724966
>I'm not even sure how to react to this.

"Bored archangel is bored."

>>40724966
you were fine back when Talon had only Sarah and the Elemental sisters in the harem. You were fine when Foxes were introduced and Talon had a fluffy tail fetish, you were fine when we added dragons into the mix, but when we start adding Archangels you now say you have a problem?

>>40724875

>1. Focus on this current power of shapeshifting(?). As well as why Raphael is even here.

>>40725056
You got the order wrong goddamit

>>40725095
hey, at least I touched all the bases.

>>40725056
I'd assume that anon is talking more about how Raphael has a fetish for shape shifting and fucking with Talons head.

So guys, you know we aren't going to fuck Raphael, right?

We're just going to ask for Sammael's digitz.

>tfw all the angel's names end with "el"

Do they?

>>40725201

I mean I don't plan on it. Just seems like fucking around for the sake of fucking around. It's just adding a humorous frame to delving into Raph a bit more.

>>40725201
ael and ial are common ending for angelic names in Christianity

>>40724875
>>2. Continue teasing Raphael. You want to see what will happen.

>>40725201

"el" Means of god. In general all angel names will tend to end with el.

>>40725120
I assume Raph is using other forms because his/her is failing, which is why he needs the source to power him/herself. Being the archangel of life would likely bring the shape shifting powers to the front where Sam wouldnt have them.

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Writing 3 now. I'll be breaking for lunch and starting some discussion about the military after this update.

>>40725201
There's an Angel Lord Sirion, so you tell me. All the archangel's names end with 'el', however. Uriel, Fyrael, Azrael, Raphael and Samael. I'm not using Michael because I don't want to.

>>40725201
Yeah I don't think Talon would truly be interested personally. He was just fucking around. Be hard to enjoy anything when your thoughts could be summoned up as "She looks so cute..but it's a guy right? Maybe? Not right now? I don't know."

>>40725403
it has tits and holes talon would hit it

>>40725403
quick poll are we unwilling to fuck a tranny?

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>3.

“So, I was actually fairly curious about Saareg,” you say. “From what I’ve heard, the two of us would have been rather similar so doe he get this treatment too?”

“Treatment?” Raphael asks.

“The treatment of you waving your naked chest in my face,” you point out, literally pointing at her chest.

“The Chief Primarch’s naked chest,” she corrects, smiling. “And attitude, for that matter. And why would you think I would act like this towards Saareg?”

“Well, we’re both powerful knights, famous warriors, etcetera,” you say, thinking this should be obvious. “If you’re going to tease me sexually, why not him?”

Once again the cavern falls silent in surprise at something you’ve said. This time you feel more like a dunce than somebody who’s done something audacious, however. You scowl at the puzzled looks on Sylvian and Raphael’s faces, and especially at the near-giggling face of Gnome.

Sylvian cottons on first, “You’ve… never met Saareg, have you?”

“No. Gnome has indicated he’s something of a knightly killing machine, however,” you say slowly in reply, trying to think whether there’s been any indication previously that Saareg wouldn’t be the sort of person Raphael would tease like this.

“Killing machine is right,” Raphael says, stretching her arms above her head in a rather provocative motion. “Knight is more teasing. Saareg isn’t exactly in a position to enjoy me like this.”

Gnome’s face is still annoying you so you try to guess what the hell they mean.

>1. “Because he’s a revenant? Old sack of bones?”
>2. “Too serious or not serious enough?”
>3. “Did you take away his sex drive when you brought him back?”
>4. Custom

One more update before lunch and military matters.

>>40725512
Yes

>>40725512
Dear god anon. Now I have a mental image of some androgynous as hell guy doing this just to fuck with Talon's head. "Hey baby why don't you come with me for a night?"

>>40725536
>>1. “Because he’s a revenant? Old sack of bones?”

>>40725536
>1. “Because he’s a revenant? Old sack of bones?”

>>40725536
>3. “Did you take away his sex drive when you brought him back?”
Raphael/Gabriel is really enjoying this, isn't he/she/they?

>>40725536
>>1. “Because he’s a revenant? Old sack of bones?"

Then just add in "Remind me to never accept becoming a Revenant if I get the option please."

>>40725562
>the shock on the androge's face when Talon just shrugs and fucks him in the ass instead

>>40725536
>1

Even though I believe we've been told that Sareeg was given a new body entirely.

I feel like Gnome and Sareeg had something more personal going on at one point or another though.

>>40725620
Oh no. Is gayanon returning?

>>40725703
>implying we ever left

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>>40725609
It's just Raphael taking on (one of) Gabriel's physical forms, so no 'they'. He's also changing his behaviour to match his body - hence why even the way he speaks and acts is so different to when he's an armoured giant and he'll revert back come morning.

>>40725536
>3. “Did you take away his sex drive when you brought him back?”

>>40725724
do angels have genders?

>>40725724

Time for a profound statement. Angels are weird.

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Writing 1.

>>40725766
Ordinary angels don't - they're just huge masses of astral energy/soul that have to take on a physical form in order to exist in the material plane - they could and do build a gender identity if they wanted to, simply by associating themselves with their physical form for long enough (I don't think we need to go into that, however). Archangels are a little different (and partially the topic of this scene).

>>40725766
Only if you want them to anon. You merely need to clap your hands and believe if strong enough.

Rolled 5 (1d20)

>>40725703
Gay, straight. whatever.

If its cute, fuck it.

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>1.

“Because he’s a revenant? Old sack of bones?” you guess, though you do remember Gnome commenting that he did have a proper body.

Raphael pouts. “I’m not going to have a sack of bones serving me like those lazy angels who couldn’t give their revenant a proper body.”

“You didn’t make Saareg, though, did you?” you ask, remembering something. "You said that he only came to serve you over time.”

“Yes, but my tastes aligned with Marianne’s,” she says, as if she’s referring to a piece of furniture she inherited. “There wouldn’t have been as much of interest if Saareg had been left to degenerate as much as some of the other revenants – the mind reflects the body, as you can well see.”

You frown at that, not exactly liking the subtle suggestion there. Raphael was certain acting weirdly now that she was taking on this rather… sexual form. It felt like you were being reminded of the fact that your power would affect you, however. The way you towered over Gnome when she was previously nearly your height made that clear and it wouldn’t do to forget Raphael’s ulterior motive – especially when her advice contradicted Baelrus’.

“So what does he look like?” you ask.

[DC16 Raphael’s Mood]

I'm going to ahve lunch now, so I'll post a block on the military stuff right after this.

Rolled 4 (1d20)

>>40726107
Nat 20 incoming

Rolled 8 (1d20)

>>40726107

Rolled 13 (1d20)

>>40726107

>>40726124
>>40726141
>>40726149
I have never been this sad before.

Rolled 5 (1d20)

>>40726107
Welp, errybody sucks.

Might as well roll my nat now.

Rolled 19 (1d20)

>>40726107
Funnily enough
He looks like you
And Talon became the Revenant

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>>40726186
It just means you need to wait to meet Saareg rather than being told what he looks like.

So, military stuff. I need something that’s better to organise, both in the sense of production and for war. The scale is big enough now that I feel safe we can have legions of 10k in size and use that for some time now. The idea would be you would have a military of, say, 180k soldiers divided into a number of legions. Important generals such as Lynn, Talon, Phillias, Arail etc would get a special legion which could be tailored towards their approach on the battlefield (e.g. Arail would have more FMKs and AAs, no HMKs) and could be larger than the 10k size otherwise used.

The question then is what the composition of your standard legion should be, and deviations can be decided later. Only standard troops will be allocated – that is, Arcane Archers, Siege Archers, all varieties of mage-knights including nightwalkers, battlemages, fox bombardiers and spellblades. More specialised units, such as fox knights, daywalkers, noble knights, rangers and Daerfir will either be attached to specific legions or called on as necessary as a complement. Certain units, such as the Griffin Knights, will be attached to specific generals at all times (e.g. Lynn gets the Griffin Knights, Phillias gets his LMKs).

>continued

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>>40726227
Given that you’ll have 18 legions, there is an upper limit to how many of certain unit types you can have. These don’t take into account special legions using up more, but that can be handled as necessary. Note that you don’t have to assign all units to the standard legion and can instead have them included en masse in specific legions (e.g. have all spellblades in Rayza’s legion rather than spread thinly across all legions).

18 legions of 10,000 soldiers each.

HMKs – 1600 per legion (29k overall)
FMKs – 1200 per legion (22k overall)
AAs and MMKs – Have no limits.
Siege Archers – 400 per legion (7200 overall)
Battlemages – 150 per legion if you maintain high training standards (2700 overall); 300 per legion if you let them slip a lot (5400 overall)
Spellblades – 50 per legion (900 overall)
Mystic Fox Bombardiers – 100 per legion (1800 overall)
Nightwalker MKs – 200 per legion (3600 overall), but also subtracts from whatever MK type the use; can be increased if you loosen requirements for making more vampires

>Discussion on what your standard legion composition should be and any ideas for how else to handle this

>>40726251
Fuck. Could anyone remind me of the roles each troop serves? What's the difference between an AA and an SA again?

>>40726251
I like the idea but wouldn't it be better to figure out our General's specific legions first before we commit to adding troops into a the general legions?

That and we might need a few more Generals at this point. I'd like to actually talk to Felis about getting back into that.

>>40726251
>HMKs – 1100
>FMKs – 1000
>AAs – 3000
>MMKs – 4000
>Siege Archers – 400
>Battlemages – 150
>Spellblades – 50
>Mystic Fox Bombardiers – 100
>Nightwalker MKs – 200 (use HMK armor)

>>40726401
make this
>AAs 2000
and
>MMKS 5000
and ill second it

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>>40726368
Well, we could do it like that and it might work better for some of the more specialised units such as spellblades. I am hoping to keep the number of special generals to a minimum, however. I think my list right now is basically: Talon, Lynn, Rayza, Phillias, Arail and Fuurin. The remaining legions would be commanded by 'generic' generals such as Parras.

>>40726342
Give me a minute and I'll post something brief.

>>40726342
AA = light artillery, Useful at killing light and medium armored foes. They are also much more maneuverable.
SA + heavy artillery, Useful at killing heavily armored foes.

>>40726251
Personally I feel that Nightwalkers should be specialized units. Not really standard to any legion more a "The first and second legion are spearheading the assault. Give them 500 nightwalkers." To keep the foes from predicting where they will come from.

Battlemage wise keep the high training standards and max them out per legion.

Spell blade wise we will want to keep them into ratios so they can be easily protected by the Mage knights as well as keep up the pressure with their magic in the front lines.

>>40726465
i think they should lead the HMKs of each legion

>>40726342
>AA

Lots of them. Good spread of damage but not good with large armor.

>SA

Few of them really good with armor.

>>40726465
I mostly think this about the nightwalkers because if everyone knows they are in a legion they can predict that and make sure to keep their eyes out for night. While if they have to guess until they show and if when they show up they have higher numbers then it's much more of a bitch.

>>40726492
Personally I feel that dilutes their effectiveness too much. They are weaker in the daytime and there is only 200 of them at max in each legion. Nightwalkers are best as a drop 500 or more and overwhelm everything unit. Having a small number like that effective but still within reasonable possibility for enough MMK to defeat.

>Nightwalkers make for perfect night time sentries and guards, being somewhat resistant to magic (or I'm drunk, which is likely) keen eyesight especially in the dark, stronger, faster, and harder to kill means they can send signals off with nearly nothing to stop then save something that makes a LOT of noise or is very flashy.

I feel as though we should be grouping Spellblades and Nightwalkers into larger portions. So 100 Spellblades into every second army. Nightwalkers could work out great if we specialize a legion into them. Something like one legion with 1000 of them.

>>40726555
thats true. i assume felix will become a general, mayne he could lead most of them then we have some in our persobal legion too

>>40726555

I definitely agree with that. But I think we should sort of form a "Midnight Sons" Legion for night time ops like that. They are heavy drops that work en masse, but not highly specialized enough to warrant their own attachment status.

>>40726585
The main issue with this is spellblades are basically frontline mages that can give our Mage knights the magical support they can't always get from backline battlemages.

If we do that we might run into the issues where we need magic power in one legion that doesn't have it.

>>40726578
They do make for excellent night raiders and the likes.

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Okay, so I think I might sort out the special generals first given some of the arguments over nightwalkers and spellblades. As I only want six special legions right now, I think I'll dump Talon's personal legion and instead just have him attach to another with his own special units (like the 200 Daerfir that follow him). I'll post something on that very shortly.

>>40726342
HMKs - heavy shock troops. Resistant to range and magic but aren't the fastest and get exhausted over a long slog.
FMKs - utility flyers. Can fight like an MMK, launch explosives, weaken enemies, be scouts and transport others. Vulnerable to anti-MK ranged.
AAs - long-range archers suitable against anything less than an HMK or magical wards (e.g. battlemages, spellblades, foxes).
Siege Archers - very long-range archers suitable against anything less than fortress defences and powerful magical wards. Relatively slow firing but heavily armoured.
Spellblades - extremely dangerous and agile warriors. Powerful at short range and in melee, but vulnerable to long-range magical attacks and can be easily overwhelmed by superior numbers of tough units (e.g. HMKs)
Foxes - Good range and excellent against all magical defenses and ignore armour. Can also perform excellently in melee, if necessary.
Nightwalker MKs - very powerful version of the MK they're replacing.

>>40726578
>being somewhat resistant to magic (or I'm drunk, which is likely)
Nightwalkers aren't resistant to magic. When they're transformed, they can only be harmed by powerful magic, however.

>>40726617
We know that 500 of them would take around 1500+ MMKs to win. I'd consider that worth putting them as a detachment.

The big thing though I"m thinking is we can slip them into the armies so the foes don't know about them. Then in mid battle suddenly vampries.

We should have a good chunk of them in Talons personal Legion though I do agree.

>>40726685
>Spellblades - extremely dangerous and agile warriors. Powerful at short range and in melee, but vulnerable to long-range magical attacks and can be easily overwhelmed by superior numbers of tough units (e.g. HMKs)

This is pretty much the reason I think it's more effective to jam Spellblades inside masses of mage knights to protect them.

>>40726685
>I think I'll dump Talon's personal legion

I don't really like that idea. Talon has his own tactics he tends to use that is different then other generals.

Personally I would go for about 2-4 special legions. Talon, That fox, Arail, and our new lord general.

So do you guys want to see a badass hero-unit type SA who can fight in melee like a HMK?

He'd be one hell of a general, methinks.

>>40726685
Thank you!

Now, to see what numbers to use...is there any reason to have standard legions without the maximum number of each troop divided equally?

>>40726814

I don't think he really needs a Legion though. Talon tends to gather what he needs when and then does an air drop via fox. He can take over just about anywhere because of the vastly varied tactics he has shown before.

>>40726251
5000 MMK
1300 HMK
1000 FMK
2000 AAs
400 SA
150 Battlemages
50 spellblades
100 Mystic fox bombardiers.

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>>40726814
The difference is that Talon rarely commands by himself. Also, there is no Lord General.

So, the special generals and their special units and focus.

Caitlyn – excellent frontal attacker but no siege experience. Excels with heavy units and foxes (they get a morale boost, basically). Attached: 250 Griffin Knights
Rayza – good jack-of-all-trades but excels with mages, spellblades and knights. Is also a dragon. Attached: 200 Elite HMKs (Dracogriffs); Lyria (powerful black dragon)
Felix – excels in all offensive situations, so long as he can close to melee. Excellent with all melee units but okay with ranged – foxes dislike him but nightwalkers love him.
Phillias – excellent defender and can command up to 20k troops (can have a double-size legion). Handles all units well but fumbles with more esoteric units such as foxes and spellblades. Attached: 350 elite LMKs
Fuurin – amazing at range and in field battles, Fuurin utilises all ranged units and mystic foxes at their best but does poorly with nightwalkers. Attached: 25 elite Mystic Fox Knights.
Arail – excellent raider and excels at swift and daring attacks. Best with light, fast-moving units including FMKs and AAs. Attached: 285 Elite FMKs

Talon – doesn’t command a legion (instead commandeers others) but has 200 elite Daerfir attached to him and 5 dragon knights.

Anyway, the discussion here should mostly be about what you want to move out of the standard legion and into these legions (e.g. no spellblades in standard legions, or no nightwalkers in standard legions). I'm mostly trying to piece something together now.

>>40726864
>is there any reason to have standard legions without the maximum number of each troop divided equally?
Well, because your special legions will be spearheading most campaigns.

>>40726871
no nightwalkers?

>>40726904
>Felix – excels in all offensive situations,

I think what you mean it

>Absorbed Blackwater's ability to bullshit the dice and get nat 20's for essentially everything forever

>>40726870
Thing there is he tends to favor a defensive style with night raids and tricks and also favors Heavy assault units backed by archery.

He can use any tactics but in effectiveness a heavily armored Legion with lots of ranged power and nightwalkers works best.

I wouldn't say I don't see the logic but I also feel that we should have a first legion that people can hope they get into that Talon can lead as he needs. Gives a good force to rally around.

>>40726904
>Felix

FUCK YEAH FELIX BACK IN THE COMMANDING GAME. We Blood Knight now.

>>40726904
>Is no lord general.

https://archive.moe/tg/thread/40135907/#40142770

>>40726904
What about Phrace and that one FMK captain?

>>40726904

I'd say no Nightwalkers for sure, they are just specialized enough to work best together. So we could basically create an entire legion dedicated to their varied usages in MK with the eventual DWNK and assumed DW Mages acting as the special add ons. That legion might actually be smaller simply due to numbers involved.

Spellblades have this great usage in mixed unit tactics, and we've seen how much the DracoGriffs have excelled with Rayza basically being one on steroids. So I wouldn't take them out entirely, but give her the lion's share with the necessary ingredients to do what she does best with them.

>>40727022
Phrace is under Rayza, the FMK captain is Arail

>>40727013
Yeah we voted for a Council of our Military leaders, I'm not sure what you're getting at.

>>40726904
>Anyway, the discussion here should mostly be about what you want to move out of the standard legion and into these legions (e.g. no spellblades in standard legions, or no nightwalkers in standard legions). I'm mostly trying to piece something together now.

Personally I say we should keep the spellblades in the standards just because everyone needs the magic support. Nightwalkers we should keep out as needed. All the other units can come standard to me.

>>40726904
I def think its a good idea for phillias to have a double size legion.
I think we could have about 2k nightwalkers go to felix
Caitlyn could get 1k foxes

>>40727064
Anon. That was the regent vote. Look at the vote one down.

>>40727100
why do you did it is a bad idea he is the defender having more men is really useful for that

>>40727139
reading comprehension poor. look again

>>40727139
Has anyone reallybeen far even as decided to use even go want to do Look more like?

>>40727100
Nightwalkers work best on a individual basis. But I could see masses of them in a frontline full offensive legion.

I really wish my house had power so I could put together a proposal

>>40727160
>>40727185
o looky I put did when I meant think if you were unable to understand it then something is wrong with you

I'd say split the Foxes between Lynn and Furriin, they get the most use out of them and if Phillias is having trouble with those types of units I can't imagine our run off the mill guys are going to fare much better with them.

Noble Knights would probably be best suited as attachments (Black Stone, Golden Bear) while the professional grades go to Lynn, Rayza, and Phill.

Throw all the Nightwalkers on Felix. I'm sure he'll be over come with joy.

Echoing an earlier Anon saying giving the lion share of Spellblades to Rayza, but leave some for general legions as well.

Arail functions well with generic units, doesn't need anything particularly special.

I think that's it.

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>>40727013
Huh, for some reason I thought it was a 4 that won that. Well, Phillias has a massive legion to fit his status, then.

>>40727064
That's for the regent position.

>>40727040
>with the eventual DWNK
You have some of those already. 100 per year while the Academy is active up until a maximum amount.

>>40727100
That's a lot of foxes for Caitlyn.

VOTES
So a short series of votes on certain special units and commanders.

FOXES
>1. Split the Mystic Foxes between Caitlyn and Fuurin, given their expertise with them (900 each).
>2. Slightly increased complements of foxes for Caitlyn and Fuurin (250 each), with the remainder spread across the legions except Felix's and Phillias' (about 100 each).

NIGHTWALKERS
>1. Assign all 3600 nightwalkers to Felix's legion.
>2.Assign 2000 nightwalkers to Felix's legion, with the rest in reserve.
>3. Give Felix an elite complement of nightwalkers (600), with the rest spread across the other legions except Phillias' and Fuurin's (200 each).

SPELLBLADES
>1. Assign all 900 to Rayza.
>2. Give Rayza a complement of Spellblades (300) but keep the rest in reserve
>3. Spread the spellblades across the legions except Phillias'.

Were there any other special considerations before I do a vote on the standard legion?

>>40727262
>2
>2
>2

That seems like a fairly safe plan, but I'm open to changing my vote if someone's persuasive enough.

>>40727262
>2. Slightly increased complements of foxes for Caitlyn and Fuurin (250 each), with the remainder spread across the legions except Felix's and Phillias' (about 100 each).
>3. Give Felix an elite complement of nightwalkers (600), with the rest spread across the other legions except Phillias' and Fuurin's (200 each).
>3. Spread the spellblades across the legions except Phillias'.

>>40727262
>1. Split the Mystic Foxes between Caitlyn and Fuurin, given their expertise with them (900 each).
>1. Assign all 3600 nightwalkers to Felix's legion.
>2. Give Rayza a complement of Spellblades (300) but keep the rest in reserve

Oh boy here we go.

>>40727262
>2
>3
>1

>>40727262
>>1. Split the Mystic Foxes between Caitlyn and Fuurin, given their expertise with them (900 each).
>1. Assign all 3600 nightwalkers to Felix's legion.
>2. Give Rayza a complement of Spellblades (300) but keep the rest in reserve

>>40727262
1
3
3

>>40727262
2
3
3

>>40727262
1
1
2

>>40726904
>Caitlyn

Just add a bit more heavy units to her. A little higher dose of foxes.

>Rayza

Just crank up the mages. She is already pretty efficient herself as a spellblade so there isn't much reason to have much higher amounts of those. I'd rather give her better backline support as she needs it.

>Felix

Give him about 1500 nightwalkers and load him up with more FMK's to in order to get him the recon and movement capability to get in melee range fast.

>Phillias

I'd honestly suggest just loading him down with MMK's in a double legion.

>Fuurin

He should have the most foxes of them all and more ranged.

>Arail

FMK and archers all day every day. Give him lower heavies to fit in more AA and FMKs.

A lot of these can easily be shifted though the legions. That is lowering the amount of heavies Fuurin has in order to give more the lynn.

I just had a chuckle upon realizing that Foxes work well with Lynn. It's the small things.

>>40727262
>2. Slightly increased complements of foxes for Caitlyn and Fuurin (250 each), with the remainder spread across the legions except Felix's and Phillias' (about 100 each).
>2.Assign 2000 nightwalkers to Felix's legion, with the rest in reserve.
>2. Give Rayza a complement of Spellblades (300) but keep the rest in reserve

>>40727262
2
3
3

>>40727262
>You have some of those already. 100 per year while the Academy is active up until a maximum amount.

Oh. Well shit then. Now we get to navigate the murky waters of calling Daywalkers, Noble Knights I'm sure the Orders will love that. So... Do we get a Felix scene where we try to convince him to pick up command again?

>>40727262
>You have some of those already. 100 per year while the Academy is active up until a maximum amount.

Tempted to try and get something like 100 of those as a personal detachment to Talon. The murder train will have no breaks when that mixes with what he already has as a detachment.

>>40727466
> calling Daywalkers, Noble Knights

Honestly I would just make a group just for them. No need to even call them noble knights just make a group where the elite vampires chill out.

>>40727262
>1
>2
>3

Uno
Dos
Tres

>>40727478
Actually given we already have a dwarf rune smith building shit and the power to buy Dwarven armor shouldn't we load our knights? We never really dealt with that.

>>40727509
Wardens?
Sentinels?

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>>40727346
I'll probably use a few of these once the standard legion is voted on, so thanks for that write-up.

>>40727351
Sometimes sexual attraction is a powerful motivator.

>2, 3, 3 wins

In other words, the majority wants to largely spread forces out thinly. Standard legion vote in a second.

>>40727466
>calling Daywalkers, Noble Knights

I wonder where the stock comes from though? What if the Daywalker was previously a talented Knight, respected within his Order? Would he still be able to call himself a Knight? Would they all just band together and form their own Order regardless because it is what they know?

>>40727542
It could be useful to call them something like the Sentinels. They are immortal so we can make their role something like the immortal warriors of the empire who could also be used to personally remember events of the empire.

That also gives a reason for more people to become daywalkers. Not only do you get immortality you get a pretty good status job.

>>40727577
I'd think, since we are a meritocratic nation, that they'd be told to stop being pussies and accept them.

Of course, it wouldn't be fair to compare something super human to something decidedly weaker and more mortal.

>>40727509
Night's Watch
We call them Bats instead of crows

>>40727542
I actually kind of like the idea of calling them Sentinels. It fits them in an odd way.

>>40727600
The main thing though is some organizations just don't work that well when you allow mixtures.

>>40727567
Honestly I like this vote other then spreading out the nightwalkers thinly.

>>40727601
I could fund it.

>>40727637
>The main thing though is some organizations just don't work that well when you allow mixtures.

You understand how Talon has done that with his entire empire, right?

>"Yeah, bring in the vampires. What? I don't give a fuck. Fine, do it slow. Yeah, AND the elves, did I stutter? Who gives a shit if they are dragons? They're cool with me."

>>40727542
>Sentinels
If we was ever to create a unit skewed towards defense I'd want them to be called sentinels

I'm down for wardens
Just call them Grey Wardens

>>40727669
>They specialize in hunting and fighting against infernal creatures and things that don't belong on this plane

Could fund this too.

>>40727542

Well Wardens already exist in the Guard.

Sentinels kind of works in the sense they are the every watchful, but I don't know if it would work defensively like the name traditionally dictates. Then again NWMK all tough nuts to crack so the DW may be the same. Eh I could dig it.

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VOTE
>1. Knight-heavy. 5000 MMK and 2000 AAs. Will provide a stronger melee punch and be able to control territory slightly better.
>2. Archer-heavy. 4000 MMK and 3000 AAs. More ranged firepower will mean the legions excel at field battles and defence but rely a little more on garrisons for controlling territory.
>3. Less specialisation. Decrease the numbers of HMKs, FMKs, SAs and battlemages in the standard legion so that more can be used in the special legions commanded directly by your best generals.
>4. Custom

The difference between 1 & 2 is relatively minimal but does affect the feel of the miltiary more (as it means you go over 1/3 ranged).

>>40727725
>2. Archer-heavy. 4000 MMK and 3000 AAs. More ranged firepower will mean the legions excel at field battles and defence but rely a little more on garrisons for controlling territory.

>>40727663
Yeah he is meritocratic but some organizations just don't function that well if you spread it too far.

Like mage towers use and entire other branch of magic so opening them up just leads to incompatibility. Knights are a human level organization build based off of the past. We don't want to open the flood gates to have such a mixture of dragons and everything else that they stop being monolithic just due to their role being better that way.

If a knight order wanted to put a non-human in then fine. But I don't think we should force them on this issue. Much better to stick them in things designed just for their role then building exceptions as it happens. That way we can take advantage of any unique traits instead of having it buried under all the humans.

>>40727725
>2. Archer-heavy. 4000 MMK and 3000 AAs. More ranged firepower will mean the legions excel at field battles and defence but rely a little more on garrisons for controlling territory.

>>40727725
>>1. Knight-heavy. 5000 MMK and 2000 AAs. Will provide a stronger melee punch and be able to control territory slightly better.

>>40727725
>2

It's worked this long.

>>40727725
>>2. Archer-heavy. 4000 MMK and 3000 AAs. More ranged firepower will mean the legions excel at field battles and defence but rely a little more on garrisons for controlling territory.

>>40727725
>1. Knight-heavy. 5000 MMK and 2000 AAs. Will provide a stronger melee punch and be able to control territory slightly better.

>>40727669
The main reason I like sentinels is we could play them off as the sentinels of the empire.

"When your great great grandchilden are dust they will remember you and what the empire stands for."

>>40727725
>1. Knight-heavy. 5000 MMK and 2000 AAs. Will provide a stronger melee punch and be able to control territory slightly better.

>>40727669
>Grey Wardens

I see what you did there you ass

>>40727725
>1. Knight-heavy. 5000 MMK and 2000 AAs. Will provide a stronger melee punch and be able to control territory slightly better.

My gut says this may be a good idea

>>40727725
>2

>>40727696
>>40727846
I honestly didn't expect anybody to get that

>>40727846
>My gut says this may be a good idea

In general it is. 2500 Ranged units counting the siege archers and the foxes is great. The extra 1000 AA is good but I'd rather deal with our staying power issues then add a little more archers.

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Okay, so 2 wins the standard legion vote. That means archer-heavy. I'll draw up the final legion structure tonight (hopefully for real, unlike the last time I said something similar). Now back to your regular programming.

>Target not met

“I feel it will be more fun if you get to see Saareg in the flesh before hearing about him,” Raphael says, smirking.

“Was there anything else you wanted to ask about?” Raphael says, noticeably pushing her chest out. “This is fun but I do appreciate some alone time.”

Given that Raphael largely does alone time for her existence, you’re not too surprised. It seemed like it had taken quite an effort for her to come out like this and she seemed to be hiding behind the façade of this not being her body. Still, the fact that she’s going to retreat for the night means this is probably your only chance for a while to ask or do anything before she retreats back into her armoured form. You…

>1. Don’t ask, just feel. If she’s going to exaggerate her current physical features then you’re going to take her up on the invitation.
>2. Ask her about Samael, partially in terms of her also changing form but as a subtle way of working out where she may be. May backfire if it’s a touchy topic.
>3. Ask her about her shapeshifting(?) ability and why she chose to come out like this tonight.
>4. Custom

>>40727992
>>1. Don’t ask, just feel. If she’s going to exaggerate her current physical features then you’re going to take her up on the invitation.

>>40727992
>>2. Ask her about Samael, partially in terms of her also changing form but as a subtle way of working out where she may be. May backfire if it’s a touchy topic.

>>40727992
>>3. Ask her about her shapeshifting(?) ability and why she chose to come out like this tonight.

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>>40727992
Dice guide my life

>>40727992
>>1. Don’t ask, just feel. If she’s going to exaggerate her current physical features then you’re going to take her up on the invitation.
the only real option
maybe also >3

>>40727992
>3. Ask her about her shapeshifting(?) ability and why she chose to come out like this tonight.

>>40728036
Ah shit should a been a 1d2 ahh fuck it just disregard this vote

>>40727992
>>3. Ask her about her shapeshifting(?) ability and why she chose to come out like this tonight.

Samael is a pretty touchy subject from what we have seen. Might be best to get more into an archangels head then waste time doing elsewise.

>>40727992
>1

>>40727992
>1. Don’t ask, just feel. If she’s going to exaggerate her current physical features then you’re going to take her up on the invitation.

>>40727992
>3. Ask her about her shapeshifting(?) ability and why she chose to come out like this tonight.

>>40727992
>3. Ask her about her shapeshifting(?) ability and why she chose to come out like this tonight.
Learning about Raph's powers is more important than what my penis may tell me.

>>40727992
>1. Don’t ask, just feel. If she’s going to exaggerate her current physical features then you’re going to take her up on the invitation.

>copping a feel on Raphael

>Anons, I am disappoint.

>>40728437
why

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>3.

“I have to admit that I’m a bit curious about this... shapeshifting ability of yours,” you say, supressing the desire to just reach out and do something to Raphael you might not regret. “I’m pleasantly surprised by you coming out here like this, even if it is very different to what you’ve shown previously.”

“I take it you like it,” Raphael says with a broad smile, using her arms to push her large chest together and moving them back and forth. “It’s interesting to do this sometimes. I figured this body type was what you liked.”

“The tits probably helped a lot, yes,” Gnome says dryly, taking her turn at emphasising her own.

“They’re nice but I appreciate all sizes, great and small,” you say with pride.

“Oh? They all seem quite large from my perspective,” Raphael says with a frown, gaze shifting between Sylvian and Gnome whose chests are larger than her own right now.

“Salamander, Caitlyn and Taira are quite small,” you protest, not wanting to get lumped in with somebody so boring as to enjoy the fullness of the female range. “And there are some more normal sizes, too.”

“Like Noah,” Gnome says, causing you to grimace slightly.

“Really?” Raphael says, her tone light. “Well, if you’re curious about this it’s rather straightforward – angels are just a huge mass of astral energy, a very large soul really. We archangels do have a physical body that ages, if at a different rate to humans, but we can freely take on a different form and merely remove our true material form from this plane temporarily. It’s useful for handling different situations, such as combat and diplomacy.”

>continued

>>40728437
>"Looks like the books weren't lying about this part, ither."

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>>40728459
“And flirting,” Gnome points out.

“Experimenting,” Raphael corrects. “But yes, flirting works. Samael has wooed princesses and queens before by taking on a male form and… confused certain knights and kings. We do have to spend a certain amount of time in our real form, however. We disassociate a little too much with reality the less time we spend in it – for some archangels this isn’t a problem but I am the Archangel of Life and I need to remain in touch with the world if I am to police it.”

“I take it that’s largely in private,” you say.

“Nowadays, yes,” she admits, frowning. “But I never spent much time like that in public even when the angels were active in the world. Plus, when I’m in public I prefer to experiment.”

As if to emphasise that, Raphael openly cups one of her breasts and plays with it openly. Okay, so she was mostly just screwing with you for the hell of it. You looked at her and she gave you a rather feral grin, her golden eyes staring into yours.

[DC14 Perception]

>>40728455
because if power really does alter whoa person is in terms of astral development

Talon is going to turn into a being that exists only to fuck.

Don't do that, put it in your pants, you've enough women and you don't need a not!woman Raphael in it.

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>>40728484

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>>40728484

My penis is confused.

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>>40728484
ARCHANGEL ROOMMATE WOO

>>40728509
>>40728512
yuss

This whole ordeal has left me baffled. I did not take Raphael for the type to "experiment" at all. I'll never be able to look at his serious suit of armor the same way again.

>>40728588
it likes to mess around, pull strings. remember when we first met it it was sitting on our throne?

>>40728588
You will from now on picture a little girl inside the suit

>>40728505
My ribs. Now I see Talon slowly become a literally impossibility skilled seducer because he thinks he is impossible to resist making his personal reality one where he is always handsome to the person looking at him.

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>>40728636

>>40728588
Raphael does show signs of liking to screw around. The overly dramatic performances and entrances. How he tends to pause at amusing moments and just look for a second before flipping back at what he was doing.

All this and we still havent learned why he is here.

>>40728690
i move that henceforth angels be referred to as 'it' rather than he/she

>>40728714

Why? The two we've been introduced to storywise self identify with specific genders.

>>40728742
in charcter they have, yes. we also dont call the astrals gods

You know thinking on it I kind of wonder what Pandemonium really is. They are probably astral being but what kind of astral beings where they? We've known angels are large souls for a while now and that they are in some way fundamentally unreal while the infernals are the most real thing around.

This makes me curious at what "The polar opposite of the angels" Would be.

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>>40728636
Gabriel's form isn't exactly little. Short but definitely very developed and mature in the face.

>Target met

For a second you see something else in the archangel’s face. Her golden eyes are instead a deep, vicious red and her deep golden hair becomes paler and straighter. The feral grin truly does look bestial and you feel as if you’re staring into the visage of a being with a depth of viciousness and destruction far beyond any monster you’ve ever seen before. There’s a primality here that you suspect is not often felt.

Oh, and the lust. That was hard to miss. A small part of your mind said this felt familiar, as if somebody had turned a mirror on you. It felt like those eyes were going to eat you up, in both senses.

Then you blink and the world returns to normal and you no longer feel like you’re seeing the primal reality of life. Well, almost everything goes back to normal – Raphael’s eyes are now that same deep red and there’s definitely something very off-putting about them, far beyond anything you’ve ever seen in Aladria’s red eyes.

“I- That was unexpected,” Raphael says, her voice less sweet and playful than before, though clearly still the same voice. “I apologise. I need to go now.”

Before you can react, Raphael practically leaps out of the water. The room explodes into bright light as her enormous white wings burst from her bare back and she jets across the room in an instant. In her absence, you stare at the waves she’s left in the water.

“That was interesting,” Sylvian says, looking bemused.

>continued

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>>40728922
“Looks like his form changing failed slightly,” Gnome comments, sounding amused. “Those were definitely Raphael’s real eyes. Still as vicious looking as ever.”

“Well, they’re certainly unique,” you say, thinking on the rest of what you saw earlier. “What is it, some ‘the eyes are the window to the soul’ thing?”

“The archangels are incredibly powerful magical beings,” Gnome says, sounding like she’s talking to a child. “Naturally, their true bodies are filled to the brim with magic and reflect their aspects. Samael is the same way, but reflects differently – for her it’s touch. Things that she touches, or even plays when it comes to instruments, have a very… haunting effect. For Raphael, it’s his eyes. They reflect the more primal nature of life.”

“Hence the viciousness? And the lust,” you say, mostly mumbling the last part.

“Well, I’ve never seen the latter but I suppose it could happen,” Gnome says, still amused. “Still, try not to comment on them. He doesn’t like his eyes very much and he currently likes you a lot.”

You’re not sure how to take that last comment, particular given the gender term she’s using. In the morning, you…

>1. Go straight to Raphael’s room to talk to him.
>2. Spend some time with Mal and his son, Marle.
>3. Spend some time catching up with Taira and Sarah as they do their weekly pre-motherly meeting.
>4. Custom

>>40728904
>This makes me curious at what "The polar opposite of the angels" Would be.
The main thing I'll say on this is that angels in this world aren't omnibeneficient or serving a being that is the same. There's no astral concept of 'do good' or 'do evil' as it's far too vague. The closest would probably be the concepts of 'Doom' and 'Existence', really, but even then they're very vague and uncommon.

Honestly, if Pandemonium is the polar opposite of what angels are it should be relatively obvious what their central concept is.

>>40728962
>h
>1

>>40728962
>>2. Spend some time with Mal and his son, Marle.

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>>40728962
My penis is even more confused

Its okay penis
Its okay

>>40728962
>Honestly, if Pandemonium is the polar opposite of what angels are it should be relatively obvious what their central concept is.

The main thing there is when I think that I think infernals who are souless while angels are nothing but souls. An astral being that is the opposite of angels would make me think of something like anti-soul or void or something like that.

>>40728962
>3. Spend some time catching up with Taira and Sarah as they do their weekly pre-motherly meeting.