For House & Dominion: Civil War Quest http://houseanddominion.wikia.com/wiki/House_%26_Dominion_Complete_Archivehttp://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=House%20and%20Dominionhttps://twitter.com/ThatSlowTypingGYou are Sonia Reynard, Baron of Rioja. One small world among many in the House of Jerik-Dremine. From it you control the fates of a dozen others in the so called Smuggler's Run. With your new position you have the opportunity to become one of the most influential people in your House.It is from this world that you will draw your future fleets and armies from. It is becoming increasingly clear to everyone that those armies are needed now.You are still a General in the Factions Alliance Fleet, though on reserve stats. Given how busy you are looking after Rioja it's doubtful you'll be able to assist them with the war against the Neeran for some time. As the Dominion begins to slip deeper into civil war, all of the elite unit's you've helped to build and train for the House over the years are now fighting to defend their homes. Knight Captain Katherine Drake is your fleet's Wing Commander. She has extensive experience with mixed unit tactics and now Assault Corvettes after her last few deployments. She should be able to give your fleet the sort of forward leadership it will need in a war against other houses. Uyi Rna is the General of your Army. You've worked together before and while there only briefly seeing the Dro'all General in action you're confident that this is the right choice. The General is drilling the troops daily as preparations are made to defend the Run against invasion or set out to assist your allies.Wiremu Tama is the admiral of your Fleet. His experience with starfighter deployment and operating as part of larger fleets gives him an advantage in those areas. They'll certainly come in handy.
For House and Run!
Daska Rna has recently returned from acquiring several long ranger sensor arrays. These will boost coverage of the Run and allow you to more easily track down and eliminate the raiders now threatening your civilian traffic. The economy of the Run is tied not just to salvage of the Graveyards by to the flow of cargo through the region as a navigation short cut.The entire DRH 1 relay is suffering under attacks by Pirate and privateer forces, and for the moment the Run is looking like a slightly safer region to pass through. You intend to keep it that way. The Anchorage Mobile Fleet Yard 'Francis Alfonso' has arrived in the region under heavy escort and begun construction of defense platforms to protect either entrance to the Run. Additional lines are being set up at the Forbearance Shipyard to increase overall production. As an added bonus former Knights Errant refugees from Helscion Ten have set up a production facility to build small defense platforms based around plasma cannons. The design being looked at uses a range boosted LD plasma cannon to reduce costs and production time. Eventually they hope to recreate a version that can mount a medium plasma cannon similar to what your Battlecruiser The Great Devourer uses.House Nasidum continues to attack Ruling House territory in the region and have supposedly moved a small fleet to blockade the counterpart Navigator station in the Centri Cluster. Intel believes they've only committed a token force to conducting the operation as the Ruling House will need to send a much larger fleet to break the blockade and remove the current threat.House Bonrah, which still claims to be neutral, is offering protection to any of the smaller Houses in the region that ally with them. They still control space around one of the remaining operational Nav stations in this Relay and are now refusing to allow Ruling House or Nasidum forces through their territory.
For Salvage and House! Time for shit to get real.
A message from Winifred informs you that fighting in South Reach has begun in earnest. The Ruling House and its allies have plenty of firepower in the region but it will all be needed there for the forseeable future. The chances of anyone getting reinforcements from the region in the forseeable future are slim. There has been one attack on Surakeh so far which was repelled in a matter of minutes, the group having carried it out believing the fleet had relocated to Tourta.According to the schedule you should be hearing back from the the homeworlds soon if the ship you sent wasn't destroyed. Instead you're informed that a civilian by the name of Trent Wolters wishes to speak with you. Apparently he claims to have information regarding your family and is offering to sell it to you.Or more likely he's trying to politely blackmail you.How do you want to deal with him?
>>43777072Bring him in to talk. If his information is valid and something comes of it then he gets paid. If not then off he goes to jail for fraud.
>>43777072>How do you want to deal with him?See what they are selling? It could be interesting.TSTG, I've have a few weeks of questions and ideas in a text file. Should I dump them in 2-3 posts in the thread, or would you prefer a pastebin?
>>43777072Oh! Did Winifred mention who attacked her and who is fighting who in South Reach? This lack of information kinda leaves us in a deadlock for what to do besides fortifying the Run as much as we can.
>>43777181If you have a pastebin already done up that would probably be easier. Otherwise promise it's not going to take half the thread to discuss them.
>>43777286Thanks. I put everything in a pastebin.http://pastebin.com/iTCv0Qty
>>43776268FOR HOUSE AND DOMINION>>43777072What's he offering?
>>43776268FOR HOUSE AND DOMINION.
Did we finish building the improved second gunship? Is it around?
FOR HOUSE AND DOMINION!We may want to consider some security in regards to meeting the guy because we are probably the highest politically powerful military star in the run and with us dead things may be more static and less dynamic...Like probably organizing some support for a strike with local RH forces and some of our wings to clear out the nav relay to the Centri Cluster, something that all people in the run would probably like. Not being cut off from the major centre of power... since RH is fighting a Asshat house we and our great house allies probably want the asshat to loose with as little disruption as possible.Nav station shenanigans are disruption...
>>43777272Unmarked ships with IFF's turned off. Many Houses that have not openly entered the civil war on a particular side are trying to get away with attacks they can deny they were part of. Winifred thinks the attackers were probably from a minor house hired by Nasidum.Civil War Sides:Ruling House, Bon'rah, Kharbos are all friendly towards you and on speaking terms with each other.Nasidum and Xygen are openly fighting the Ruling House. Bonrah, which is rumored to be allied with them, has yet to declare war on anyone but are taking full advantage of the situation. They're trying to gather together Houses scared away from the fighting.You have poor relations with these three.Thanks to securing the support of House Talos, Bonrah has the most modern Heavy Carriers in Faction Space.Helios and Che'len are fully neutral and are discussing a mutual defense pact. Many of the vassal Houses of Che'len have been subverted by Aries, or GE in a similar manner. As a result they are under attack by at least 4 of the major Houses, in addition to their own attempts to restore control to the nobility. Your relations with Helios and Che'len are effectively zero. Nothing good but nothing bad either.>>43777698The point defense one? It's still a work in progress. The design will improve over time as it is refined. Think P-51 development. Moving fast but still takes time.
>>43778050>Bonrah, which is rumored to be allied with them, has yet to declare war on anyone but are taking full advantage of the situation.Do we still have a chance to rope these guys into the neutral block with Helios and Che'len?
>>43778050In other words, things are looking extraordinary poor for us unless we can get either the Ber'helum, Kharbos, Helios holy trinity going or the Ber'helum, Kharbor, RH power switch with hopefully support from Helios.>>43778152Perhaps we could fabricate and attack on Bonrah territory from Nasidum or the like?
>>43777698Oh the Heavy Cruiser.Construction takes 1 year for each of them. The first was completed in mid 4031. You're at the end of 4031, going into 4032. Sorry if I'm not posting dates.>>43777128>Bring him in to talk. If his information is valid and something comes of it then he gets paid. If not then off he goes to jail for fraud.>>43777181>See what they are selling?>>43777670>What's he offering?Mr Wolters has information on your mother's side of the family, something she never really talks about. He claims that he stumbled upon it while researching the Warlord raids on the Centri Cluster. The Warlords have been selling data on their old raids to universities and research groups. Some of the data included info on local pirates that could be recruited when raids were taking place in particular regions. Useful when looking for reinforcements for larger strikes. According to a crew roster, your mother's parents served aboard one such ship at the turn of the century. It's not clear in what capacity they worked.By 30 years ago the surrounding Houses had placed bounties or death marks on the crew."It would be terribly embarassing for a famous pirate hunter such as yourself to be publicly associated with a band like this. I can make sure this information is kept quiet for a sum of 3.5 million. You'll never need to worry about it again. You should also know that I've made arrangements should anything happen to me.">What say?
>>43778758Ah, blackmailing it is. Throw him in prison for... A couple of long years I think and make sure he is blacklisted from most anything in JD space for the rest of his life. If he data does get leaked so what? Other peoples actions, whom we've never meet, does not define us or our own actions. If people want to make a big deal out of it then let them, we will just point out all the good stuff we've done for this House and remind them that they are trying to make us feel bad for something we've not even done ourselves and then we ignore them until the public loses interest.
>>43778758>>What say?We'd like to confer with the family before coming a decision? Offer to pay for a stay at a 5 star hotel for him until we've managed to ask mom about this.
>>43778758Yeah, I don't take kindly to blackmailing. Throw him in a hole and just have the news show a bit more news regarding the war. I mean what will the population focus on more? A new faction war right on their doorstep or celebrity scandals?
>>43778913We could always take the approach that the reason we do pirate hunting is because of our grandparents. But it really doesn't work out until we know which position they worked as. Could always say they were slaves/prisoners forced to work as pirates.
>>43778758I'm actually interested in the data but I don't see how this could hurt Sonia. Was Sonia's mother afraid to leave the planet because of this or does she actually have a phobia?Contacting Sonia's parents about this is the best course of action.
>>43778933>>43779096That seems like it would be pretty hard to do considering they are far away in another galaxy and getting messages requires us to send a ship to the nav relay in order to get through the jamming.
>>43779148Yeah, I forgot about that.Maybe offer to pay 100k for the information because it could actually be interesting to know about this. If they want to go public with it, I doubt Sonia herself has much to fear but things could be problematic Anyway, It would be easier to decide if we actually knew the details. Would the guy be willing to give us a brief outline about what he found for a lower payment?
>>43779277>Would the guy be willing to give us a brief outline about what he found for a lower payment?I don't think he actually want to share the information as much as he is trying to blackmail us for some quick cash. I also feel like offering him payment is kind of encouraging people to try to blackmail us.
>>43778758"Do you know, Mr Wolters, I truly do not care."
>>43779096>Contacting Sonia's parents about this is the best course of action.>>43778933>We'd like to confer with the family before coming a decision? Offer to pay for a stay at a 5 star hotel for him until we've managed to ask mom about this.As pointed out, communications with the homeworld are not the easiest or most secure thing at the moment.>>43778913>If he data does get leaked so what? Other peoples actions, whom we've never meet, does not define us or our own actions. If people want to make a big deal out of it then let them, we will just point out all the good stuff we've done for this House and remind them that they are trying to make us feel bad for something we've not even done ourselves and then we ignore them until the public loses interest.It's also as much a question of how much Sonia really cares about her standing among high society.[ ] Pay him[ ] Offer to pay him 100k (10x Official Dominion Genealogical Accreditation cost)[ ] Offer to put him up in hotel until you can talk to family[ ] Thank him for his time, Refuse, or Laugh in his face[ ] Arrest for blackmail[ ] Leave him in desert on Rioja[ ] Invite to tour of airlock facilities
>>43779571>[x] Thank him for his time, Refuse, or Laugh in his face
>>43778758Neat, anyway do whatever you want with that information. Oh and I fully trust you have ways of doing that without you being there, because that airlock just looks so inviting.
>>43779571>[ ] Invite to tour of airlock facilities, laugh in his face too.
>>43779571>[ ] Arrest for blackmailSonia's responsible for the formation of house Veritas, so I don't think she gives a damn.
>>43779542Apathy at it's finest. I like it.>>43779571[ ] Thank him for his time, Refuse, or Laugh in his faceI think a snicker will do. Also remind him that should this information became public knowledge then a certain baron wont be to happy with him and might show him her lovely airlock.However [ ] Arrest for blackmailIs sooooo very tempting.
>>43779571>[ ] Offer to put him up in hotel until you can talk to familyWe can easily afford it.
>>43779571>[x] Offer to pay him 100k (10x Official Dominion Genealogical Accreditation cost)I don't really mind, and it could be useful information.
>>43780002Information isn't a tangible thing. He could easily blackmail us again for more money later. In fact, if you pay him, there's no reason he shouldn't.
>>43780002Why? if we want to know something we can just hire our own employees for the same task at a much lower cost, or even better yet, ask Mom for free.
>>43780165Pay him the 10k that this kind of inormation is usually worth?
>>43780197That's not a horrible idea.
>>43779571While I don't think this could be a problem for Sonia I'm worried about her parents. What if mom gets into trouble because of this, or if dad gets problems because he legally an enemy of the house or something equally silly.We shouldn't take this too lightly.
A ship you sent to make contact with the J-D homeworlds has reported back. Things are not looking good, though they could be worse.Salvage teams attempting to prepare the Zeus to be jumped back to dock for final refit and repairs have repeatedly come under attack by raiders from hostile Houses. It's not by any one House, ships from several are trying to prevent J-D from salvaging the heavy cruiser. An MRSI Torpedo strike was was largely countered by Alex resulting in minimal damage to the ship. Had its shields not been repaired the damage would have been far worse. Damage to the salvage craft will still mean more delays but isn't a worst case scenario.Fighting along the borders has been intensifying and Majestic has been deployed to counter House Emina. Discussions are being held with House Feron about the possibility of a combined invasion. Both would take territory and the reduced Emina would potentially become a vassal of Feron. Other Houses in your alliance could also gain territory.Xygen has launched a campaign supposedly to pacify surrounding Houses affected by Aries. In actuality they're helping to fortify many of these Houses against potential attacks by the Ruling House. If they continue their advance they'll eventually progress into territory belonging to minor allies of the Ruling House and Kharbos. That includes your own House. It may be necessary to eventually stage a breakout from the Smuggler's Run with Forbearance to assist the homeworlds. That's still months away.For now your Primary orders are to protect regional House interests. Secondary are to expand them if possible.A courier service is being set up via third parties to re-establish regular communication. You can also use Ferrigold if necessary.The House can get you reinforcements if necessary but it will be harder to do so and will mean running the blockades. You may want to recall your cloaked salvage ships from Shallan space.Are there any reinforcements you absolutely need?
>>43780999>Are there any reinforcements you absolutely need?What's available? I feel we could use some decent diplomats and SIGINT people. We could also end up in a situation where we have to train people for the various roles in the military and administartion without help from J-D's main territory. So it would probably helpful if we got some instructors for all these positions that keep the House running.Another thing that could be helpful would be to establish regular convoys back to our home galaxy with our allies in the Run.
>>43780999Do we have enough resources to continue production for a while?Do we lack manpower in terms of pilots?How are our SP torpedo reserves?Our family would be nice as well.
>>43780999>Are there any reinforcements you absolutely need?More crews, more pilots. We're sitting on a VERY limited amounts of ships out there if we are to both hold and expand at the same time. Ships are a not a problem since we can pump out a decent amount of them from where we are right now and in worst case we can get a healthy amount of Corvettes from the Surakeh yard should Winifred be able to keep loses down on her end.Some negotiators and spies/assassins/infiltrators would also be good. The later being needed very much if we are to swallow some territory in the area smoothly. The former would be good for bullshiting the other houses in the area.We still did not get any words regarding the major houses. Which side are we on? That we will come into conflict with Nasidum and Xygen is clear for all to see but the others less so. We need some rules of engagement here or we are just going to end up doing our own thing and potentially hamper the House efforts in other areas.Also will we get a replacement ship for Forbearance should it be recalled to the home worlds. We will need some sort of heavy capital ship or our regional defenses will be down heavily and our ability to attack will be crippled.
>>43780999>You may want to recall your cloaked salvage ships from Shallan space.We should probably talk to London and our task force commanders about the current situation and decide on a strategy how to deal with it.
>>43778050>Ruling House, Bon'rah, KharbosWould it be possible to negotiate a local DRH 01 non-aggression pact or alliance between these guys? I would assume it's on our interest to keep both the Ruling House and Ber'helum active in this nav relay as long as possible.
>>43781767>local DRH 01 non-aggression pactI was going to suggest something like that later, but I think it'd really improve relations in the Run and we'd see who's our ally and who isn't.
Btw, I'm putting the blackmail thing to survey unless there are more votes.>>43781384That can be arranged.>>43781161>diplomats and SIGINT>instructors for the various roles in the military and administrationThere were some instructors brought in to help set up the PDF and the army in general but more could certainly make a world of difference.>regular convoys back to our home galaxy with our allies in the Run.That isn't possible at this time.>>43781226>Do we have enough resources to continue production for a while?You're good on resources. Every house has mining barges, there is scrap from the graveyards and the rare element mines run by Kadnil produce a surplus. >Do we lack manpower in terms of pilots?You could always use more. >How are our SP torpedo reserves?250. Most are old models from the graveyards. The rest of the House isnt well off either and cant send you any.>Our family would be nice as well.Moving them from the Homeworld? Anyone else interested in doing this? Never really got a clear picture previously.I'm mostly seeing requests for experienced personnel and trainers to grow your forces. Some ships.If the Forbearance & escort leave the Run the House lacks the ships to put a replacement heavy. Not unless they pull the Heavy guarding the DHI yard in PCCG space. The Run would have to wait until more mediums were built. They're aware of this problem and its why they haven't previously sent the Super outside the Relay.>>43781244>We still did not get any words regarding the major houses. Which side are we on?You're on the side of the Ruling House if it comes down to it but the Earl hasn't outright declared war on Nasidum and Xygen as back home they're more worried about local minor Houses. As the Ruling House refused the J-D request for assistance against House Erid they don't really expect you to come to their aid and so have been reluctant to ask. They would probably not refuse if you offered.
>>43782356>Anyone else interested in doing this?To be honest, if Ethan wasn't around I'd prefer to buy them a cruiser of all those heavily fortified core world of the various factions as for away from the dominion and neeran empire as possible. I'm just not sure what's best for our family right now.>SuppliesWould the Rovinar be willing to sell us one or two silent hunters with cloaks before their government makes the arms embargo official?
According to Uyi Rna the war factories on Rioja and elsewhere in the Run should be able to support your mechanized divisions without additional aid. Mostly. You have a severe lack of heavy tanks. Most of the House stockpile was on deployment with Majestic or on the homeworlds. Surakeh has some but only enough for Winifred's army and none can be spared.To make matters worse what heavy tanks the House does have are older models. You could still request they send them with the convoy they try to run the blockade with.The Black Market is an option, though the costs will skyrocket and the quality of vehicles might be inconsistent. The same if you contracted Ferigold to bring in tanks acquired off the market from other locations. It could be done but cost would be enormous and they would not be the best. Aries is known to have a new model of heavy tank they had started production of. There weren't any in Erid space when it was conquered, the Baron having focused on space fleets. You could try to raid a facility to steal some. Aries still has a presence in many Houses. You could also try looking on one of the Terran colonies in a nearby relay.A small number of Houses are rumored to have developed a newer heavy tank design for an Alliance contract but they're reluctant to sell to other Houses in the current political climate. House Phobos is supposed to be one of them and has territory in the DRH 1 Relay.It's unlikely they would sell the tanks to you unless you were allied with a mutual defense pact.You could also choose to forego heavy tanks entirely. You have HAG support. You could also acquire heavy walkers, though they're much slower.
>>43782485>heavy tanksDo any of our allies in the Run build them? What about Ber'h, the RH, or Helios alllies in our realy?Are the Shallans producing any at this point? Sonia should be able to procure a license from them.
>>43782356>Anyone else interested in doing this?Not really. Not like it's any safer here. Especially since such a large swat of the House forces are in the home territories. If anything the only place they would be safe is outside the Dominion to begin with. Like with the Rovinar or the like.>If the Forbearance & escort leave the Run the House lacks the ships to put a replacement heavyYou know what I think this sounds like? Sounds like we need to go acquire a new one for us! Anyone in for calling in Rovinar favors and having fun Krath time stealing some high end Heavy Cruisers?>>43782485Heavy Tanks will have to wait for now it seems. More Hags and Medium tanks instead. Lightning attack ahoy.
>>43782485Unlimited HAG works.
Hey, can we see if the Terrans would sell us SP torpedoes? We've always played it straight with them.
>>43782485>House Phobos is supposed to be one of them and has territory in the DRH 1 Relay.>It's unlikely they would sell the tanks to you unless you were allied with a mutual defense pact.Who are these guys? Which House are they allied with?
>>43782478>Woman with severe phobia of spaceflight>cruise tripIt's a nice thought.>Would the Rovinar be willing to sell us one or two silent hunters with cloaks before their government makes the arms embargo official?That's actually a really good idea.>>43782569>Do any of our allies in the Run build them?Not locally, though parts are.You allies will make some available to you in an emergency like defense of one of the worlds in the Run, otherwise not. They don't produce them locally, >What about Ber'h, the RH, or Helios alllies in our realy?Posat had one factory in the relay which it looks like the Ruling House got. They'll be older models.As Heavy tanks are not produced in the sort of numbers that Medium/MBT's are most Houses haven't set up production in this relay.Ber'helum as with most of the others don't have many available for sale having enough for divisions with HLVs plus reserves.>Are the Shallans producing any at this point? Sonia should be able to procure a license from them.The Shallans never produced heavy tanks. >Anyone in for calling in Rovinar favors and having fun Krath time stealing some high end Heavy Cruisers?You have Eldal to help you out.>Heavy Tanks will have to wait for now it seems.Assisting the RH and declaring war on Nasidum would be one of the faster ways to get hold of some.There is a way to quickly secure an alliance with House Phobos, but you will not like it and I suspect it will not happen.>>43783158The General assures you that the army will still be able to fight even with the shortage of heavier. They would just fight better with them.>>43783263The Terrans have refused to sell arms to any part of the Dominion at this time. All available SP weapons are being sent to the front lines for use against the Neeran. Well most, there are stockpiles for Terran response fleets to counter attempts by Houses to raid Terran systems for war Materiel.
>>43783593>The Terrans have refused to sell arms to any part of the Dominion at this time.>There is a way to quickly secure an alliance with House Phobos, but you will not like it and I suspect it will not happen.I'm totally in favour of marrying admiral Chen :3.Could crazy Has-Anne buy some from them? Do the warlords produce any?>It's a nice thought.We could put her and dad in the freezer whenever they're off-world.
>>43783380House Phobos is one of a small number of Human Houses in the Dominion. You've only met one person from their House, Knight Captain Kári Darrow, who has since been promoted to Knight Commander and it on track to become a Baron soon.They were of equivilant strength to J-D several years ago, though they're more reliant upon older designs. You've since far surpassed them in numbers of heavy warships.They're aligned towards Ruling House/Helios but like many in the Relay are trying to stay neutral to avoid fighting the Nasidum fleet. If necessary they may switch sides to another of the major Houses.
>>43783899Is there a way to get Helios to show more presence in the relay?
>>43783948>Is there a way to get Helios to show more presence in the relay?Helios cant support bringing a fleet in from one of the longer routes. They can't reinforce their allies while the blockade is in place.Do you guys want to ask for permission from the Earl to go to war with House Nasidum, or wait until your first convoy has arrived to strengthen your position?
>>43784354Does Nasidum have any allies in Sonia's relay or around the other J-D holdings?>first convoyWhat's the House going to send us?
>>43784536>Does Nasidum have any allies in Sonia's relay or around the other J-D holdings?Nothing near the homeworlds. Minimal support in this relay or south Reach.One minor House near the nav station surrendered to them but other than that their fleet is larger than their support facilities can maintain in the long term. Their heavy cruiser has evidently had a few upgrades including an industrial block. It's not as versatile as a heavy Carrier like the Majestic is but it has more firepower.If Bonrah were to enter the war on Nasidum's side things in the relay could change very quickly.>>43784536>What's the House going to send us?You'll be requesting experienced personnel and trainers to grow your forces, Intel people, pilots, diplomats, along with some ships. You're owed a second Athena class BS to escort your command ship as is Daska. If you want them to send some heavy tanks with the convoy they will but it won't be many. Been trying to post this map. Lets see if it works.
>>43784768>If Bonrah were to enter the war on Nasidum's side things in the relay could change very quickly.That's not good. Can Bonrah get reinforcement through the nav station they control?Are Ber'helum or the ruling house planning to send more ships to this galaxy?How do the combined relay fleets of j-d+ber'helum+rh compare to bonrah+nasidum?What can we do to strengthen the various helios allies?How is the RH's fleet in the relay doing so far?>>43784354>Do you guys want to ask for permission from the Earl to go to war with House NasidumWhy is the ruling house not asking for help?
>>43784910TSTG mentioned it before here >>43782356>As the Ruling House refused the J-D request for assistance against House Erid they don't really expect you to come to their aid and so have been reluctant to ask. They would probably not refuse if you offered.>As the Ruling House refused the J-D request for assistance against House Erid they don't really expect you to come to their aid and so have been reluctant to ask. They would probably not refuse if you offered.
>>43784768Have Helios Allies been suffering from pirate raids which may have links to Nasidum?
Oh, they'll also try to send a cloaked ship with the convoy.>>43784910>Can Bonrah get reinforcement through the nav station they control?Yes, but they have to cut through Terran space to do so which means once they start fighting there is a good chance the Terrans will impose their own blockade on them.>Are Ber'helum or the ruling house planning to send more ships to this galaxy?You don't know for sure both it looks like both have thrown most of their available fleets at Houses taken over by Aries in a massive land rush. The RH is having trouble with attacks on their existing territories in the Centri cluster by Nasidum and Xygen. For the moment Ber'helum is facing less opposition but they had less time to prepare. Because of this neither have many fleets available to send.>How do the combined relay fleets of j-d+ber'helum+rh compare to bonrah+nasidum?Intel on current Bonrah fleet strength isn't very accurate atm. They should have numbers similar to nasidum.RH still has more than any 1 but they have more territory to protect.Ber'helum has a weak fleet here but their carriers are in good shape and would be well suited to support. With your Super it looks pretty even.>What can we do to strengthen the various helios allies?Not sure to be honest.>How is the RH's fleet in the relay doing so far? Not suffering any major defeats but they've been unable to bring a strong enough force to bear at any one time to threaten the Heavy Cruiser. Turning into a game of whack a mole.>>43785319Yes, as much or more than other Houses in the region.SURVEY! See you in the morning.surveymonkey com /r/ GXN8TJR
>>43785580Survey done For House and Dominion!!
>>43785580We should talk to BerHelum regarding their position. While we can move to support them, it would take time for us to bring assets to them in case of an attack.In the event of overwhelming forces they should know that instead of losing their fleet here, they can readily escape into the more fortified run where we can mass and assess the success of a counter attack.
>>43785580so the political marriage option I assume is for Sonia or is it someone else?
>>43786990Who else can we sell? Drake? Daska? Bekka? It's probably for us, but if we can we should try to offer Tama or another of our subordinates.#spacedictator
>>43787851Do you think Sonia is powerful enough to get away with a harem? We let her marrry somebody for political reasons and then put them in a tower of her castle and never mention them again.
We should contact the Terrans and see if they'll put some pressure on Bonrah's use of the Terran Relay to reinforce their position.Don't we have reliable intel that those Marauders and a number of mercenaries (like the crews we captured) were grouping up in Bonrah space? We could probably argue that the Terran refugees on that station are still Terran Citizens/Civilians until they're officially settled. Maybe pay for some news/propaganda in the relay saying that Bonrah's mercenaries used Neeran Terror Tactics against Terran Refugees displaced by Neeran attacks?If we get the Terrans in that relay pissed off at Bonrah for killing ANY Terran refugees, the government isn't likely to resist calls to close the relay to them. Maybe Enright or Chen would even be willing to give a reputable voice or act as payment proxy for supporting that motion?
>>43787910Harem quest is probably not the direction tstg wants this quest to go.And the last thing we need is a princess in a super heavy looking to rescued the trapped prince in a tower
With Trent Wolters waiting for a response you eventually start laughing at the idea of paying that much for this kind of information. "I'm uh... I'm quite serious." Mr Wolters assures you.Once you've calmed down you clear your throat and get back to business. "Thank you for the offer but I'm going to have to refuse. I believe my career has more than made up for any damage that information might do.If you release it and a few people think less of me because of it, I really don't care. Have a nice day."You hit a button to summon the guards. "And if you ever try to blackmail me or any my family ever again there is a good chance I may just kill you."The guards soon arrive to take the researcher away.With that taken care of. you consider what to do about your family in the current climate. With the way things are heating up it might be best to request that Bekka be transferred out to South Reach. Winifred always seemed to know what she was doing and that might be best for your sister right now.>Evacuate family>Use the rovinar favor to get them out if things get bad there.If you use it to get cloaked ships you'll have completely used it up. Are you guys for getting the ships or not?>We should probablby ask somebody about this. Who and what did you want to ask?
>>43789434>If you use it to get cloaked ships you'll have completely used it up. Are you guys for getting the ships or not?I'd rather we use them for stealing a Heavy Cruiser from someone in the area.
>>43789434>If you use it to get cloaked ships you'll have completely used it up. Are you guys for getting the ships or not?If we do end up getting the cloaked ships I'd like to have them scouting near Nasidum and Xygen space here. Or help find those marauders.Also TSTG can we contact the Terrans about this?>>43789005
>>43789434Can we still give him a more reasonable amount of money for bringing us some genuinely interesting information about our grandparents? Don’t have to completely brush him off, that just leads to resentment. And if he already offers to change the database, who knows what kind of serious lies he may include if we piss him off?>If you use it to get cloaked ships you'll have completely used it up. Are you guys for getting the ships or not?I don’t think we need to use favour to evacuate the family. Buying some cloaked ships is more beneficial. And such ships can be used to send the family away.
With the shortage of heavy tanks you'll try to make sure that more HAG's are available to support the ground troops. Uyi may not have specilized in that particular aspect but knows how to work with it.>>43785820>In the event of overwhelming forces they should know that instead of losing their fleet here, they can readily escape into the more fortified run where we can mass and assess the success of a counter attack.This is exactly why they made an agreement with you to that effect. In return you picked up some modular station modules which will be used to help fortify the other entrance to the Run. >>43786990>so the political marriage option I assume is for Sonia or is it someone else?Yes it was intended for Sonia.Knight Commander Kári Darrow is one of 3 potential suitors that have dared to show interest. The others are Baron Torsten Vlegel of House Ceres and Troy Harmen of Loran II.They were mainly put there as an option suitable to the setting and have not been pushed due to lack of player interest.>>43787851>Who else can we sell? Drake? Daska? Bekka? It's probably for us, but if we can we should try to offer Tama or another of our subordinates.You could talk to your people and see if any would be open to the possibility of a political marriage.>>43787910>>43789012People can be married and live seperately.>Harem quest is probably not the direction tstg wants this quest to go.Not especially.>>43789005>We should contact the Terrans and see if they'll put some pressure on Bonrah's use of the Terran Relay to reinforce their position.Bonrah isn't the only one using it at the moment. Plenty of civilian traffic is getting through along with Bonrah allies. They're mainly blocking people that they have poor relations with. This is allowing certain merchants to pass through unobstructed.>Cont.
>contIf Bonrah enters the war then the Terrans will probably block it then. If they block Bonrah from passing through their relays now they'll have to do the same for warships of every House.>We could probably argue that the Terran refugees on that station are still Terran Citizens/Civilians until they're officially settled. They can maintain dual citizen status for many years. Settling in the territory of another Faction is a risk undertaken by the people moving there. You can still set up the propoganda. The Terrans might denounce House Bonrah's actions or place additional sanctions against them.>Maybe Enright or Chen would even be willing to give a reputable voice or act as payment proxy for supporting that motion?Enright is straight military, no political connections to speak of. Chen might be able to push to institute an expanded embargo. Get the spin team to keep pushing the attacks on refugees angle?
>>43790418We should certainly do what we can to get Bonrah's relay shut down for Dominion Military.If their avenue of relative safety for bringing in additional military forces is denied, Bonrah's position in this galaxy is weakened. They'll have to move additional forces in through the entire damned thing, and they'll find their supply lines running through territories that can cut them off in the event of hostilities.Some of our quasi-allied House friends can still make use of the Run to bring in their supplies, especially if we can manage to gather a force to pop that damned Heavy Cruiser fighting the RH.Did we ever find out where those slaves among the pirate crews were from, or who owned them?
>>43790221Kari Darrow is the one who sent Sonia that fighter right? Never thought Vlegel was interested in Sonia. Harmen makes some sense and might actually help Sonia a bit with the old school nobles in the house more than the others.
>>43790643>Did we ever find out where those slaves among the pirate crews were from, or who owned them?Some were from Urtanim which seems to be working to reduce the overall number of slave in their territory. The rest were from several Houses that still allow slavery. Some of those are allied with the Ruling House, others with Nasidum. >>43790851>Kari Darrow is the one who sent Sonia that fighter right?No the HF-blade collection.Propoganda teams are ramping up efforts, including interviews with the survivors of attacks. Video from recovery teams and sensor records from the attack on the refugee station are being used to put together a documentary. Your courrier ship has been sent off with the request for reinforcements. They should arrive in the relay within 20 days provided nothing goes wrong.Will you include a request to allow you to declare war on House Nasidum or others in the Relay if it becomes necessary? Or will you act without it should things come to a head?
>>43791034>Will you include a request to allow you to declare war on House Nasidum or others in the Relay if it becomes necessary?Yes. We can't allow ourselves to be bogged down by this slow communication with the House central command when the need calls for it.Also are there any mercenaries/privateers to be had in the run? I was thinking we send them to harass the houses at our backdoor so we can weaken them and then gobble up their territory eventually.
>>43791034Yes get that permission.>>43791281Why do you want to attack our allies? Even if to expand J-D holdings? That's not going to get us a lot of trust from anyone.
>>43791432>Why do you want to attack our allies?Far as I am aware most Houses outside the run, with the exception of Ber'helum and RH, are not our allies so they should be free picking. Secondly House Command told us to expand if possible which I feel we should do since this is our chance to take control of a very important area for trade among other things. Just to make it clear, I am not suggesting we attack our allies within the Run, that would be silly.
>>43791521Right sorry I had thought you wanted to attack the backdoor itself. The wording made it seem a bit ambiguous. I'm all for hiring some mercs to scout what's happening there but not for attacking just yet.
>>43791281>houses at our backdoorCoincidentally, while checking on the status of those houses intel has noticed increased communication between the minor House Ul'torel and House Bonrah. The region is resource poor and underdeveloped, as a result their House cant financially afford to defend it against piracy.Because of this they're looking at leasing control their territory in the region to House Bonrah for an extended period. It would be returned after it had lost strategic value but that could be years, decades or never.If this plan goes through Bonrah could block that entrance to the Run, bottling you in and making contact with the Ber'helum territories more difficult.Do you plan to let this go through or will you try to prevent the deal from taking place?
>>43791714Try and prevent it.
>>43791714>Let’s make a counter-offer first.Given that we don’t actually want to take hold of their territory (or do we?), we can offer protection for far better rates.
>>43791714This looks like a chance to have our Run Alliance and potentially House Ber'Hulem offer a much better deal.Or to just conquer the holdings and offer everyone there a chance to join their choice of Alliance House, with any and all property rights they hold respected.It is probably Bonrah throwing raiders at them, anyway.This would also allow us to link the Run to Ber'hulem territory, and secure communications with them.
>>43791714>Do you plan to let this go through or will you try to prevent the deal from taking place?Prevent it. Our greatest asset in the Run is the fact that we control it from beginning to end. Bonrah control of one end of it would be bad for trade and military deployment and exposes us as they can use the territory as a staging point for an attack on us should they want to.Military action or diplomatic pressure?>>43791773I know I do but I am greedy like that and will probably go down the path that assures us the most amount of territory.
Lost my post.>>43792051>Military action or diplomatic pressure?That is the question.Simply buying the territory or trying to offer them a better deal are options. Protection is another, and since they don't seem to have the resources to invest in the area they wouldn't be able to pay much for it.The more military options could be done either with just your alliance or could include Ber'helum. Jumping in with a fleet as intimidation is a way to get a deal as good or better than Bonrah was working out.You could also simply invade them and take the region claiming it on grounds for continued defense of your interests.You can always fall back on the military actions if diplomacy fails, but it could buy time for Bonrah to speed up any deals they're trying for.What are you guys leaning towards trying first?
>>43792253Militarily with Ber'Helum to offer protection. Each house in the run besides RH gets a world in there to hold parts of a fleet? Would the others go for it?
>>43792351>. Each house in the run besides RH gets a world in there to hold parts of a fleet? Would the others go for it?There are no habitable worlds in the local House Ul'torel territory.They have a graveyard, a mining operation, a small rare element mine that needs to be expanded and one station acting as their military base. It's expected that the guild will make additional graveyards available for exploitation in a few years.There are some small science and research outposts studying planets and moons for one reason or another but that's it.
>>43792253A lightning strike seems tempting but does not seem like the best political move to make.I'd say intimidation along with asshole diplomacy. We ask Ber'Helum to ships to the border and make it obvious but nothing else. We then move a bigger fleet to our side of the border and offer to buy the territory, ofcourse with that kind of military force being right at their territory we can probably get away with it far cheaper than we otherwise could. If that fails then I am for an invasion.
>>43792253Let's see if we can solve this situation with our diplomats. I'd prefer to offer them protection and perhaps even economic help. >>43789434>Are you guys for getting the ships or not?Would the Rovinar be willing to do as a favour if it puts Sonia in their debt after this? Would using up our remaining favor allow to gain some more sooner than if we kept them indepted to us?>>43790091>ResearcherI agree with this anon. While we're not letting him blackmail us, the information should be worth the standard rate of 10k. At the worst we get to read some boring family history.>Who and what did you want to ask?The FA. What's the safest place for Dominion civilians to be right now.>Minor Helios Houses>Not sure to be honest.What if we offer them to implement the earlier anti-piracy measures J-D used in the Run and South reach with their local allies? Offer training for their crews in these matters.
>>43792253>What are you guys leaning towards trying first?Ask the governor of Rioja about this. He's the most skilled diplomat we have.
>>43792484>Would the Rovinar be willing to do as a favour if it puts Sonia in their debt after this? Possibly but would depend on what it was.>Would using up our remaining favor allow to gain some more sooner than if we kept them indepted to us?Absolutely.>The FA. What's the safest place for Dominion civilians to be right now.Anywhere not currently circled by red. Rovinar space, parts of Republic space and so on.>>43792505While many people know that there is a super heavy inside the Run, most outside of it having meen starting to take it as a less serious threat as it's never been deployed in a true combat situation. Deploying it in a display of gunboat diplomacy could get people to take you seriously. Dlam'ard suggests taking the more diplomatic approach if you think there is enough time. Intel believes that they're still in early stages of diplomacy.The Governor also suggests that you could request House Ber'helum approach House Ul'torel. Doing so with the additional backing of local Houses could increase the weight of their argument.
>>43792888>Anywhere not currently circled by red.Holy fuck. Is the FA at least doing some raids in Neeran territory in return?
>>43792888Welp, there is next to nowhere safe.Anyways, have Dlam'ard begin the diplomatic talks since he is the better diplomat here. If he can't get a good deal fast enough or satisfactory enough for us then we move in the Forbearance and strong arm them with a display of power.
>>43793052Yes. If you'd gone with the Alliance for the duration of your house arrest you would have had the option to go behind enemy lines. But that would have likely been a long duration mission.All of those areas are considered to be "at risk" for one reason or another. Even if the Neeran or infighting Houses haven't gone anywhere near them yet.Okay I need to get ready for work. I will be back around 9PM EST.
>>43792888Let's get Ber'hulem in on this, and aid them with a little gunboat support. Assuming they can move quickly.If not, we should gunboat diplomacy or outright blitz their military positions.And we need to consult at least the allied Baron, to ensure our allies are in.
>>43792888>most outside of it having meen starting to take it as a less serious threat as it's never been deployed in a true combat situationWould removing the heavy that's currently bullying the ruling house's forces in our nav relay do the trick?
>>43795157Or we just take it to bully the end run house.
>>43798030That's boring and mean. Let's bully the bullies.
>>43795157>>43798030>>43798153How about bully the smaller end run houses we don't like and salvage the Heavy for our own use? Got to make as much use of the Forbearance as we can before it is recalled and we do need a replacement for it once it is gone.
>>43798254Do we dislike any of the smaller houses in the run?
>>43798282I think we've been doing a pretty good job at keeping all the Houses in the Run placated. Might be able to push them around a little without even having to threaten.
>>43798282>>43798344Fairly certain he is talking about non-Allied Houses beyond the 'back door' region. again.
>>43798344I don't think we've really placated them that much. The other Baron was a bit upset Sonia took command of the run instead of someone else. They did follow Winnifreds lead in the campaign and now ours in the civil war so there probably will be resentment if we force things on them.
>>43798457Far as I am concerned our allies in the run can do whatever they wish as long as they do not risk the safety of the Run and everyone else holdings in here. They will make for good garrison fleets while we can attempt to bully other House not allied to us and grow our strength.
>>43798526I think we should "liberate" the smaller house nasidum has bullied.
Sorry I didn't give more notice before going to work. I will be running the whole day tomorrow barring emergencies.The following cached messages have arrived from Vaughn Miyazaki.3 weeks ago: I hope this get's through to you Baron. I've been assigned a unit commanding older ships that cant be fitted with high maneuver drives. Most of the ships are still in private ownership and were drawn from the older mixed wings we put together to fight House Erid. If you have any personal warships you'd like to loan I could use them. The House is offering to insure them. 2 weeks ago: Is the Bekka Reynard just assigned to my unit your sister? She seems to know her stuff.1 week ago: She's definitely crazy enough to be your sister and one of the few new people that can handle a ship lacking high maneuver drives. Trying to make friends with other people in the unit but spends way too much time in the simulators. I think she's trying to get the highest scores in the unit for piloting, boarding and counter-boarding actions.>>43798695>I think we should "liberate" the smaller house nasidum has bullied.>>43798254>How about bully the smaller end run houses we don't like and salvage the Heavy for our own use?I take it you mean the one that surrendered to House Nasidum? If so that's 2 of you for that at least.From what I'm seeing most people want to begin diplomacy with House Ul'torel while moving a force to their border in preparation to take the area by force if necessary. Or at least to have them there to provide the threat of force.[ ] Have Governor Dlam'ard open negotiations[ ] You and other Barons in Run approach Ul'torel[ ] Ask Ber'helum to open negotiations[ ] Ask Ber'helum with support of other Barons in Run
>>43799628>[ ] Ask Ber'helum with support of other Barons in RunEven if the houses IN the run don't really like them they are the best option. And Bekka stop freaking out Winnifred!
>>43799628>[ ] Have Governor Dlam'ard open negotiationsHe has the experience for it where as we do not and I'd rather secure this territory for JD rather than for Ber'helum or sharing it with our allies.>I think she's trying to get the highest scores in the unit for piloting, boarding and counter-boarding actions.Aww, she is trying to surpass us. Cute. We'll let her get back to us when her real life kill count surpasses one million.
>>43799628>[ ] Have Governor Dlam'ard open negotiations
>>43799628>[ ] Have Governor Dlam'ard open negotiationsThis is why we got him. So he could handle the diplomatic stuff that Sonia can't into.
While reluctant to step away from duties of state the Governor sets to work preparing negotiations. You inform the other Barons in the Run and House Ber'helum of your intentions.Ber'helum would like to buy a couple of sectors if possible but are understanding if it's not. The other Barons are more concerned about what effect this would have on the planned defensive positions at that end of the Run. They were more than happy to help fund construction of defensive platforms at the back door to the Run. They're now worried they'll have no say should you decide to move them to the new territories if J-D buys them.To prevent this they would like to buy some of the territory along the main navigation route if you're successful in acquiring it. "I hate politics." You inform Maybourne when ordering ships to positions along the border.The added distraction is focused on you long enough for the Governor to do their job. After a few days of talks Dlam'ard contacts you."We may have worked out a deal. They're prepared to sell the territory outright to our House with a few stipulations.""Such as?""Salvage rights to a number of graveyards that will become accessible in 10 years time if the guild calculations are correct. They're within the region that is technically under their control but is inaccessible at present."[ ] Agree to the demands[ ] Offer to make it into a lease for x years [ ] Other
>>43800988>[ ] Offer to make it into a lease for x yearsLease it for 6 months to a year?
>>43800988[X] Other : ask how the mood at negotiating table was. I want to see if we can push them for more, or shouldn't bother.
>>43800988>[x] Agree to the demands, if they're prepared to go through RSS.Let's us keep tabs on what they find too.
>>43800988>[ ] Offer to make it into a lease for x years Maybe add in a discount for using RSS as well?
>>43801065>Lease it for 6 months to a year?That's a fairly short period of time for a lease like this. They could pencil in "until the emergency is over.">>43801186>ask how the mood at negotiating table was."They want to get their people out of the Relay before everything goes to hell. We're closer so it's more convenient for them but that, and our fleet, are the only reasons they're going with us over Bonrah.">>43801197>>43801209>Maybe add in a discount for using RSS as well?>Meanwhile on Surakeh...London looked up from the small mountain of reports as a chill ran through him."Why do I suddenly have a feeling that someone is messing with our profit factors?"Looks like we're going with a limited length lease then? Precise length of time will be negotiated on.Objections?
I'm not feeling too strong with this negotiation. If convenience is the only reason that they're agreeing with us instead of going with house Bonrah ( which could be a huge annoyance) I would say agree to the initial terms.Please correct me if I've missed anything.
>>43800988[x] Other: Try to negotiate that they'll get a cut (20%?) of the graveyards.They are unable to hold the territory in the face of pirates, and would be selling the territory to us. It then falls upon US to defend those territories for the estimated 10 years.We can give them a cut of what will likely be horribly outdated ships in a decade or more and free what forces they have here to go back up more important regions of their House. And if it is lost after we buy it? Well hell, they already got paid.Giving them a deal where THEY win on exclusive salvage rights if we bleed for the territory during a civil war? a bit insulting, really.
>>43801698I'm not sure we could hold our territory right now against the other houses, let alone more. Jerik-Dremine has excellent raiding units but they can't be everywhere at once. I worry about the house's ability to withstand a war of attrition.
>>43801641This. I don't understand why we would want to lease it over owning it / allies owning it.
>>43801542damn it. this didn't show up.It seems absurd for us to lease territory we will certainly end up bleeding for due to strategic value. Especially if you consider that we may run into this very same situation in the future if the Civil War drags on.We really, really can't afford to assume that this Civil War isn't going to drag on or go for another round.>>43801698samefag here
>>43801698>Giving them a deal where THEY win on exclusive salvage rights if we bleed for the territory during a civil war? a bit insulting, really.They wanted some salvage which as you pointed out would be horribly out of date. Because of this stipulation the amount your house would pay for the territory would lower. >Try to negotiate that they'll get a cut (20%?) of the graveyards.Anyone in favour of this counter offer?
>>43801758We're primarily buying into this territory because it is a strategic move. Buy it, and our Run Alliance is now directly connected to our other chosen ally in the run.If we're in a position to buy the sectors for good, it makes damned good sense to do so. Of course, there is always the risk we'll lose some or all of it. We may even lose the entire damned Run! But we can't overlook that this territory has solid value in the long run, and the owners are looking to get out of it now and FAST.
>>43801831Nay. I'd never agree to twenty percent of an unknown for that. This salvage stuff is set up like a mine. Sometimes you get drive plate, sometimes you get outdated scrap.
>>43801831What would our governor recommend?
>>43801831Shit I thought we were leading to them. My bad buy outright.
>>43801831Voting for taking the initial deal.I hate taking the initial deal, but I have no idea what the other house's offering and getting outbid here would suck.
>>43801780>damn it. this didn't show up.I've noticed that I can hit refresh and it will still take several tries before a new post will show up.Survey up. See you in the morning.surveymonkey com /r/ CYKJF9J
>>43802449Do we have a rough idea how many ships are supposed in these graveyards? I'd prefer to cap what they get to a percentage of the tonnage found. Like we did with veritas. I'll vote for taking the initial deal on the survey but this idea might be worth suggesting.
>>43802449So I have a question. How come you changed from Jarik-Dremind to Jerik-Dremine? Just re-reading old threads and noticed that.
>>43802449Accidentally picked 20% when I meant to select half.I'd also like to stipulate we get to choose what salvage we get.
>>43804432>I'd also like to stipulate we get to choose what salvage we get.Indeed. I am not all that worried if they salvaged a couple of Corvettes, cruisers and Battlecruisers. However if there are any SPs, Veckron warheads, Heavies or even a Super involved in the graveyard then I don't really feel we should give that up since that will mean a loss for us to grow our military strength and an increase in a rival Houses military strength. Ofcourse that may not matter 10 years into the future but who knows.>>43803804Jarik just sounds silly.
>>43804674I also really want to accompany the salvage team on a run some time so we can roll for salvage. Scoring a Veckron so we can put the hurt on a heavy would be slick.
>>43804686If I remember correctly, we don't get to use the "best of three rule" any more when it comes to salvage.
>>43805363Oh, rip. Sonia was too good at the salvage game.
>>43799628>If you have any personal warships you'd like to loan I could use them. The House is offering to insure them.Put him in contact with RSS. We should be able to temporarily provide a few of these ships as I doubt they're particularly profitable at this time.>>43790091>>43792484>Guy selling family dataPaying him 10000-15000 after reminding him why it's usually not a good idea to blackmail a baron would be okay in my book. I managed to miss the first survey, so I don't know if this was an option or not.>>43800988>Ber'helum would like to buy a couple of sectors if possible but are understanding if it's not. The other Barons are more concerned about what effect this would have on the planned defensive positions at that end of the Run.Which of the new sectors would these guys want, and why?
>>43805386TSTG realized his mistake when we rolled like 90+ on 7 rolls in the beginning and good that incredibly large load of ships.>>43805445If I where a guessing man I'd say they would probably want those 2 territories edging the navigation hazard leading up to Ber'Helum territory so that they have a territorial connection on that end to someone not JD if things where to go bad with us. Also because of chance of graveyard hidden within the hazard that they can nab.
>>43805445>I managed to miss the first survey, so I don't know if this was an option or not.It wasn’t. It was only brought up when the survey was nearly over. (I still think making him upset will lead to him altering the data into something truly unfavourable which might actually harm us.)
>Kavarian stellar matter harvestersThe Kavarians have only have 1 of these operational and it's being used to power the largest super heavy shipyard in known space. >>43802786For the new ones there isn't much data. The Governor threw in a stipulation about Super heavy salvage over a certain size and SP Torpedoes.>>43803804It was an accident and I didn't realise I'd done it at the time. Must have been one of the times I was writing the OP from scratch and misremembered. I only noticed it earlier this year when going back through earlier archives.>>43804674There will almost certainly be destroyed supers, it's just a question of how big the pieces are. If it took a bow to stern Veckron weapon hit, or if it lost anti-matter containment with the fuel tanks still aboard there won't be much left except scrap. If they were chewed up by SP hits then the left over wrecks will be larger.>>43805445>Which of the new sectors would these guys want, and why?Any of those bordering on their current space. They're just trying to expand territory a bit. Obviously the ones closest to the nav hazard would be the most valuable because of future graveyards.
>>43805595Wasn't it also the idea to datamine some of the wrecks for additional sites? Giving us what is now Majestic?
Reluctantly you agree to the demands. You would have liked to counter off with reduced salvage access but there isn't time for it. Delays could make them reconsider, even with your fleet on their border.The Fleet moves in and begins to put troops and personnel aboard the main station as locals begin their evacuation. To make things easier your House has carried over certain contracts with civilian workers, though they'll be re-evaluated in the next few weeks to make sure you're not being screwed over.It will take longer to let the scientific outposts know what is going on. They're not always in regular contact.With that out of the way Baron Kelly of House Trin'qua wants to buy some of the space along the navigation lane. Ber'helum are still interested in any of the territories you'd be interested in parting with.These have been indicated with dots on the sectors in question.Do you want to part with any of the sectors at this time?
>>43806576Ber'Helum can buy the two below R and the one right of M. Kelly can buy the three left of G. Evens it up and shows we aren't leaving allies out of it. Maybe only two to Kelly?
>>43806576I'd be okay with letting a few sectors go. I'll post a suggestion in 2 hours or so when I don't have to post from my phone.
>>43806576Letting them buy territories will make the whole region more valuable to them, make them commit a larger percentage of forces to protect it and make them.I’d say let them have 1-3.>Let them have the two right of the M>>43806647That would leave the top one with the R separated from the rest of the territories, same with the one to the right. Please don’t splinter the occupied regions.
>>43806576Like I've said, I'm greedy, but I'd say we can let sell the two hexes bordering Trin'qua territory to Trin'qua. We could also sell the one hex to Ber'helum that borders the nav hazard and is already surrounded by two other of their hexes if only to make them happy. But I don't really feel like selling too much since this territory means better control of the Run.>>43806140That too I do believe. Which reminds me, did we ever get any conclusive data on the mercenary Barge if there was any bases/colonies/whatever within the navigation hazards? Ever since that happened I've been paranoid that one that a fleet of pirates will come out and try to claim the run for themselves.
>>43806576Gonna say we should allow House Trin'qua to buy all 5 sectors they want. They are our long-time ally, and we already control one of the Run's entrances.Allowing them to take the other end shows that they are our partner, and helps us avoid giving JD too many exclaves in the Run.As for Ber'hulem, I believe we should allow them the Rare and the other sectors they want, minus the Mining Operation. Ber'hulem is a solid ally, and they can likely both bank roll the purchase with relative ease and better defend the sectors.It also gives us a contiguous JD space in the center. What are we looking at for the Station(?) Base, Graveyard and Mining operation? I'm wondering if we might want to relocate assets like the Base, in case Bonrah or other pirates decide to use bought data to launch an attack.
Some mixed votes and 1 opposed. Looks like you guys want to sell 4 sectors totanl, 2 to each of the interested allies. Ber'helum would get the sectors that are to eventually have access to future graveyards. To avoid breaking previous contract with House Ul'torel, you'll be handing much of your salvage rights to Ber'helum.Unless you want an alternate agreement with Ber'helum?
>>43807256I'd rathe keep the one next to the mine. Ber'Helum can have one of the sectors above the mine. In addition anything J-D can't use Ber'Helum has first access. Unless I'm just retarded as fuck and that won't work?
>>43807256Ehh... Not so keen on giving away salvage rights like that. It's basically free ships like some admiral mentioned when we asked for one of the graveyards sometime before.
>>43807256Just transfer the agreement as-is to Ber'helum. If they want to renegotiate it, they can handle it.
>>43807021>What are we looking at for the Station(?) Base, Graveyard and Mining operation?Modular station. Small but some upgrades.Mining operation is based on a small planet that lacks much of an atmosphere.Graveyard is filled with your usual faction wars era salvage. Larger numbers of Frigate and light cruiser hulls, in addition to Kavarian Battlecruisers. None of them are full ships.>>43807480Giving Ber'helum the two sectors that will grant you future salvage rights just makes my life a lot more difficult in general. Because it means we sit here debating for a day IRL instead of progressing to actually getting shit done.Fuck it. Trin'qa is getting their 2 sectors, Ber'helum can be discussed later by the diplomatic corps. Daska and her teams have finished setting up the rest of the sensor arrays. All approaches to the Run are secure and more importantly there is FTL coverage of the nebula that had been giving your people trouble. Daska is quick to send in additional ships in an attempt to scare the pirates out of the region so they can be more easily tracked.Only a few of those that begin to leave the area are jumped immediately. At least two are tracked all the way to Avoubic. While the other inhabited bases and planetoids in the region are unable to get clear readings, House spy sats monitor two Marauders enter Belu Fortress.This is the same fort that's given you trouble so many times in the past.[ ] Monitor the situation[ ] Contact Belu Fortress about the pirates[ ] Bring in Forbearance to attack or threaten the fortress[ ] Other
>>43807700>[ ] Bring in Forbearance to attack or threaten the fortressWell they had their second chance. Now it's time to bury the fucks.Sorry mate. How is Alex doing without his Shallan observer?
>>43807700>[x] Bring in Forbearance to attack or threaten the fortressThis is the third time, right? Well, one time and they get a fresh start. Two times and we are annoyed. Helping our enemies three times after being warned twice? We’ll have to crack down hard.I would be willing to change this is someone has a good idea how we can profit from knowing this without engaging them right now. (Maybe something along the lines of infiltrating the place and getting insider information about future raid groups or giving the false information? Or waiting for a larger group to try to hide there?)
>>43807700Even with the forbearance can we even crack that asteroid without siege guns?Contact the fortress and have the Forbearance ready to jump in. I guess we would go to since we have heavy plasma guns which should be good in sieges.
>>43807700>Fuck itThat's the spirit TSTG. We need more of that at times.[ ] Bring in Forbearance to attack or threaten the fortressFuck yeah it's time for a show of force to bring those isolationists to heel. Sonia gave them their chance and they blew it.
>>43807868>This is the third time, right?Yes it would be.>>>43807958>Even with the forbearance can we even crack that asteroid without siege guns?Yes. The two Neeran guns that were fitted to the heavy plasma cannon turrets add quite a bit of firepower due to their higher rate of fire. There are also more torpedo batteries than normal to take advantage of the better quality warheads the House has access to. There are some Republic Light plasma cannon turrets as well, the cannons having been found in the Run. As the station can't move easily Forbearance can stay out the effective range of their fusion cannons. A prolonged siege will be expensive due to the number of torpedoes that would be used.
>>43807700>[X] Contact Belu Fortress about the piratesThey're the Run's Tourta equivalent. I can barely imagine how much of a headache that free port must be.>>43807256Wouldn't it make sense to hand over the rare element sector to either Ber'helum, or one of the Houses in our alliance that can actually process that stuff?
>>43808094>Mining operation is based on a small planet that lacks much of an atmosphere.>Wouldn't it make sense to hand over the rare element sector to either Ber'helum, or one of the Houses in our alliance that can actually process that stuff?Way I see it that planet is a prime planet ready to be terraformed with a bit of effort. We can probably reuse some of the equipment from Rioja for it as well, in a few years at lest. Just needs a thicker atmosphere and we got another profitable colony.
>>43808094>thinking we'll use up torpedoesWe could just as easily KKV them with asteroids, and it will give us an amazing "You have X seconds to surrender without condition, or we can't divert the KKVs to miss you."But first, we'll inform them that they are harboring known pirates and terrorists, responsible for attacks on the refugee station. As such, they are now guilty of aiding and abiding such parties. Get all of the other asteroid fortresses to collectively ask them to surrender, to save their civilians.
>>43807700>[ ] Contact Belu Fortress about the piratesI think we should show them our evidence, and then ask them to turn over the pirates.If they're actually helpful this time, we can talk about a reward for securing the ships and pirates.
>>43807700>[ ] Bring in Forbearance to attack or threaten the fortressBring the Forbearance and some ships and park them outside the forts range for intimidation and to show them we are pissed as fuck.[ ] Contact Belu Fortress about the piratesAnd then we contact them going like "That's a nice base you got there. Also why are you harboring pirates?"
>>43808146>I can barely imagine how much of a headache that free port must be.They're not a free port, you guys decided it would be a bad idea. They still do all of their trade through Avoubic main and things looked to be improving as they had almost normalized relations. With their history they still have a somewhat shady reputation.You send word to make sure Forbearance is stocked up on torpedoes and that there are a few tugs available for moving smaller asteroids if needed. The fleet jumps in at the edge of Belu's weapons range, one super heavy, three medium cruisers and the dedicated escorts. "Lock weapons but stand by for my order.""Aye sir.""Coms open a channel. This is Baron Sonia Reynard to Belu fortress. Respond immediately."It doesn't take long for them to respond. "Baron Reynard, we... weren't expecting you so soon. We hadn't even sent a courier yet.""We have evidence you're harboring known pirates and terrorists, responsible for attacks on the refugee station. You're to stand down and surrender immediately." you inform them. "Is this a secure channel?" asks the administrator.Well you wanted them to get the message so its not an especially secure channel.The commander rolls his eyes in annoyance. "Yes. We are harboring known pirates and terrorists. We were trying to infect their ship's computers with a virus so we could track them back to their fleet when they leave. The bounty on them is not a small one, we were hoping to collect on it."What."Why didn't you contact me?" you ask."Because we didn't want to tip them off. The main long range com array for this system has been compromised. Pirates think we're involved with it and come here only for our resident bounty hunters to capture them later."The pair of Marauders in dock have probably been alerted to your presence by now. They won't be able to escape the fort but the rest of their units will know something is up if they don't return.Your orders to salvage this situation?
>>43807700Reminder that blowing up pirate vessels with civilians on board because Sonia felt like not thinking things through really bit us in the ass last time we did it.[x] Contact Belu Fortress about the piratesMy entry for "what does sonia look like" from the previous thread.
>>43808580>Your orders to salvage this situation?Ask the station commander if he could convince a different crew to pretend they're making a run from the station to escape our forces. We capture their ship, publicly threaten the commander for harbouring terrorists, leave the system, and hope it was convincing enough.>Don't forget to apologize for being jumping to conclusions afterwards.
>>43808580Capture the local pirates, check their computer systems and pretend the last few sentences didn’t happen.Later, using a more secure channel, talk about them apparently having done this in the past. If this is true, there should be some evidence or record of this. And if they ever contacted our house, we should have been informed of it. (Which means one of our guys fucked up.)In any case, we need to get the local pirates. Officially, a random patrol noticed them and they were tracked to here. (This means future pirates might still come, even if they will be more careful. If it gets out that our sensors are simply that good, no one will come any more.)
>>43806118>The Kavarians have only have 1 of these operational and it's being used to power the largest super heavy shipyard in known space.Seems like the perfect time to build a second one. >>43808094>As the station can't move easily Forbearance can stay out the effective range of their fusion cannons. A prolonged siege will be expensive due to the number of torpedoes that would be used.Would they be willing to allow a limited number of J-D torpedo and missile stations/satellites close to their station? If we can shell them from beyond their weapon range, so can hostile fleet in the future. Keeping the missiles and torps under J-D control would lower the chance of them being used against our ships.
>>43808580Oh the joy of Housing and Dominioning.First and foremost, we should probably have a chat with the leader of the station. Cause cleary this aint working.As for salvaging the situation. We could leak information that we had recived information that Belu Fortress was under siege and had come to their help? Could tie that into our sensory equipment being faulty as well so the rest of the pirates will be less careful.We could also say we got information/informant told us/bullshit that said pirates where here. We could then have Belu "hide" the pirates and pretend to be working against us and we can then declare this area free of pirates to hopefully draw more of them here.
>>43808676>If this is true, there should be some evidence or record of this. And if they ever contacted our house, we should have been informed of it.There are records of two bounty hunters and their ships registered at the main Avoubic planetoid. The home port for their ships are listed as being at Belu. They have claimed bounties with the House and allies before, though the records don't indicate their home port's admin was involved. The last was before you became Baron and were still under House Arrest.>>43808927>First and foremost, we should probably have a chat with the leader of the station. Cause cleary this aint workingYou want to send them a card later?>>43808927>have Belu "hide" the pirates and pretend to be working against us and we can then declare this area free of pirates to hopefully draw more of them here.Have locals hide them, take their ships then see if they try to call for pickup by another ship? I want to be sure I'm understanding your plan right before we have a vote on them.
>>43809180>You want to send them a card later?
>>43808580Assuming that we trust them (I vote that we do, they stand to gain very little from fucking us over)We could deploy our forces in a net spaced too widely while starting to charge/fire our lasers while officially calling for their surrender.The base would try to hold out while allowing them to "slip out" through our "blockade", to keep up the ruse we try to chase them but "lose" them after a while.
As usual everyone is pulling in different directions. 1 for substituting the crew, 1 for trying to get the computer data in order to backtrack rendezvous locations, 1 for getting the pirates to call in more ships.>>43809358Put on a good show while allowing them to escape. Maybe with a virus, tracking beacon or agents aboard.[ ] Put virus or agent(s) on ships, allow them to escape[ ] Substitute crew, make it look like ships escaped[ ] Substitute crew with your own people[ ] Download data, backtrack rendezvous[ ] Get pirates to call in more ships
>>43809463>[x] Download data, backtrack rendezvous
>>43809463>As usual everyone is pulling in different directions.Would you want it any other way?[ ] Substitute crew, make it look like ships escaped[ ] Download data, backtrack rendezvousIt's like the mission we had to do to get knighted! Except things are looking horrible for the pirates! Wait... It's exactly like that.
>>43809463>>43808666 hereThe idea was an entirely different crew flees in a different ship, making it seem like we actually were after somebody else and didn't know about the pirates in the marauders. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
>>43809664Yeah, that's the idea. Hopefully the station crew will have managed to install the tracking virus by then.
>>43809548And then the real Marauder crew would escape after the fleet leaves?In that case I would suggest voting for the first option..
>>43809721Oh, sorry. Work is making me so tired I'm skipping entire paragraphs.>>43809463>[X] Put virus or agent(s) on ships, allow them to escape
>>43809463>[ ] Put virus or agent(s) on ships, allow them to escapelet's go with that.
>>43809463> Put virus or agent(s) on ships, allow them to escape> Download data, backtrack rendezvousAnyoen else want to throw a votes towards either of these?
>>43809975>> Put virus or agent(s) on ships, allow them to escapeI give that slightly better chances (even if I don’t think it will work). Haven’t voted on this so far.
>>43810141It's hard being active here and working ;..;
Rolled 74, 89 = 163 (2d100)>>43810141Ha-ha! time for dice!
Rolled 84 (1d100)>>43810141>Roll 2d100First roll.Does captcha take ages to load for anybody else?
Rolled 33 (1d100)>>43810263And the second one.And now everything works again...
Rolled 98, 9 = 107 (2d100)Holy shite. I failed at dice two times in a row.
>>43810446Mirror dice, woo.
After switching to a secure channel you make certain they understand you'll be discussing policy with them later. (And a possible apology.) Right now they need to finish their work on the computer systems or put a spy aboard. Either way you need to figure out a way to get those ships out of here. Letting them simply escape right now might not make the fort like a potential hideout in the future. If it looked like it was another ship you were after that might work. "Do you have another ship you can send out and my fleet can subsequently chase down?""Not many and they would need to be brought in on the plan or they would just panic. I'll convince one of the bounty hunters to do it. The fewer people that know what's going on the better."A few minutes later a ship that looks like a stripped down Royal Guard Cruiser flies out of one of the newer docking bays and quickly accelerates. Your ships that are within range open fire, careful to not aim too closely. You don't want them to accidentally take a bad hit and stray into the rest of the bombardment. Soon the ship clears the gravity well and jumps out of the system. Your fleet follows, though you broadcast an unencrypted message to the station administrator that you'll be back soon to discuss them offering safe harbor to pirates.Once you're out of the system Maybourne turns to you. "Do you think it will work sir?""I have no idea." You reply. "I just hope those cloaked ships get here soon so we can start doing sneaky stuff again."Somehow it seems to have worked. It's obvious the raiders were suspicious because it takes them several days to head back to the nebula.
Daska is making use of the data you've been getting in short bursts from the ships in addition to the sensor array to trace the movements of the two armed transports. Put together it builds a spiderweb of contact points including the occasional rendezvous point where a few ships might meet. It's clear that they take advantage of any civilian traffic passing through the region, not to attack but to follow in an effort to mask their drive flare. It turns out they've been more active outside the nebula than you'd realised. Transports make regular flights to the pair of colonies in the area assisting their movement.After a week of this and few actual attacks you ask Daska if she has located all of them yet."We're still mapping their movements. I think there may be a dozen ships they haven't had contact with yet and I would like to get all of them."The next day one of the Marauders and a few other ships are tracked leaving the nebula. It looks like they're headed in the general direction of the Forbearance shipyard. Do you want to take them down now to prevent them from plaguing a new area of the run? Or will you keep following their movements to see where they lead you?[ ] Take them down[ ] Keep tracking them
>>43811118>[ ] Take them downThey've had enough time. Check the places they e been as well to see if they left anything behind.
>>43811118>[X] Keep tracking thembut make sure we have a unit ready in the area in case they decide to start trouble.
>>43811118[ ] Keep tracking themMake sure the Forbearance area is on highest possible alert. SP torpedo counter measures and all that shibang. We want to make sure they all die the moment they enter into real space again and try to make something stupid.
>>43784768>You're owed a second Athena class BS to escort your command ship as is Daska.Has the House been able to build something we can use in place of the Aries warship modules?
>>43811118[x] Take them downIf we let them pull off an attack, we have failed miserably to act on the intel we've gained. Take down who we can, and we'll just have to deal with the last few the old fashioned way.
>>43811118>[ ] Take them downBash their faces in. The risk a dozen of them pose is to large. Also I am liking it less and less to be on the receiving end of raiders.
>>43811421>Has the House been able to build something we can use in place of the Aries warship modules?Heavy Torpedo racks at present. It is possible to get hold of Aries warship modules in this Relay, but fitting any of them will reduce the ship's overall mobility. It won't be able to keep up with your command ship then.You could also fit spinal mount heavy phase cannons but they'll also cause a performance drop.>Take them downThe risk of them causing harm to the colonies, salvage sites or shipyards in the area are too great in your estimation. You give the order to have them eliminated. The strike group near Forbearance head out and are soon able to intercept the Raiding force. It's hard to tell what they were heading for but once it's clear they've been spotted the group splits up in an attempt to lose their pursuers. With an EC-K assigned to each of them it doesn't help. Frustratingly, once their ships have been disabled the crews abandon ship and self destruct. One of the Vulture class ships are captured more of less intact but the others including the Marauder are largely destroyed. Intel will begin debriefing the recovered crews for any useful information.Meanwhile the convoy from the the homeworlds seems to have run the blockade. They've taken cover at the Nav station at the moment but are worried they'll come under fire if attempting to reach the Run. They have cargo transports, Frigates, a few extra assault corvettes, an escort carrier and two Athena class Battleships. How many ships do you want to send to assist them?
>>43812042Can they give us an estimate how many hostile ships are nearby?
>>43812042Do they know how many ships were hunting them? What's unoccupied in our fleets?
>>43812042Are there any ships from other Houses in the same situation at that station?
>>43812042Send a full wing at the very lest. We don't want to take chances that someone will think to raid the convoy.
>>43812042A wing of assault corvettes and one or two of our heavier ships.
>>43812083There are a number of Exodus transports that have been refit as battleships carrying twin fusion cannon turrets. They're the most commonly seen in the way of tougher ships in the area. Long Range BS are also present, no more than 4 being sighted at once.At least 2 squadrons of Clarent Class patrol the region immediately around the station harassing traffic. 2-3 squadrons of Knight Class ships also operate nearby but move around to reduce the chances of the Ruling House jumping them.2 different Shukhant Mediums have been sighted within 10 lightyears of the station but they generally don't stick around. House Nasidum is operating the blockade on more of a raider doctrine. They don't keep many ships where they can be easily detected so they can choose to engage or retreat. In most instances there are only single ships paroling just outside weapons range of the station to keep an eye on things.>>43812218>Do they know how many ships were hunting them?They started taking fire from the Exodus ships so they brought the transports into the station for cover. If it looks like there is a good opening they may attempt to make a run for it.>>43812263Only small numbers. Most Houses were made aware of the blockade and have been avoiding it. Some from the various Helios allies or Houses more openly allied with the Ruling House. A pair of Moli's from House Binil that would like an escort to the Run if possible. They're slower ships so they don't really expect it.And a few from Bonrah. Maybe they're just keeping an eye on things?
>>43812476Would Ber'h or RH be willing to spare some ships for the convoy?
>>43812476Binil is an ally right? Contact them and say we'd be willing to offer assistance in bringing them here. Of course we'd expect something in return but leave it up in the air for now?
>>43812476Oh dear, oh dear. That sounds like a lot of salvage to me.I'd say we bring anyone that wants to come and send two wings of Corvettes and a squadron of Cruisers just to dare anyone to try attack us. Got to keep the Run trade line open. I wonder if the RH would let us send in a mixed wing to counter raid these guys for bounties and salvage claims to the ships they destroy. Would be a neat way for our guys to keep in shape, get some money and for extra ships.If they are okay with that then I'd say send a Mixed wing and a Corvette wing and then begin hunting down ships that don't know they are salvage yet with the mixed wing once the Convoy is within the safety of the run.
>>43812476If Nasidum fired on our convoy, isn't that an act of war?Or is this just a bit of tit for tat where we'd be legit in launching a counter-raid?
>>43812476A cruiser squad consists of 12 ships, right?
>>43812568Ber'helum could but the RH is stretched too thin. You could still tell them you're going to be escorting a convoy. They might be able to take advantage of any shift in Nasidum forces.>>43812588>Binil is an ally right?Yes. They're starting to buy assault corvettes off you for use in the Run but it will be a few weeks until they have an operational unit.>>43812663>If Nasidum fired on our convoy, isn't that an act of war?>Or is this just a bit of tit for tat where we'd be legit in launching a counter-raid?You could choose to take it either way. In their defense they would say it was your fault for flying through an active war zone.>>43812755A Squadron consists of 12 ships regardless of ship class, a Wing (usually) is 72.How large of an escort are you sending?[ ] 1 Attack Corvette Wing[ ] 1 Assault Corvette Wing[ ] 2 Assault Wings[ ] 2 Assault Wings + Mediums[ ] 2 Assault Wings + Mediums + mixed Escort[ ] Other
>>43812602I am liking the idea of wreaking the raiders with some raiders of our own. I mean who does not like free ships?
>>43812858>[ ] 1 Assault Wing + MediumsSee if Binil is willing to add any ships to it for bringing their transports with us?
>>43812858Whoops, I missed the section below with House Binil having a much larger fleet. They'll probably send a few mixed squadrons.
>>43812858[ ]1 Assault Wing + Medium + 1 Mixed WingTogether with some Binil ships that should be a suitable escort and then the Mixed wing can hunt for salvage once we are safe.
>>43812858>You could still tell them you're going to be escorting a convoy.I'd be okay with that.TSTG, what problems could sending Forbearance with 1 AB merc unit and 2 additional wings of DA/CRVs cause? I'm not sure why we keep that ship sitting in the run as much as we do but it's likely I'm just not seeing the problem.
>>43812947It works as a deterent for any larger attacks on the run and JD holdings in this mini galaxy for one. It's also safer here for it as damage to it would take a long while to repair and we don't want to send it back scratched to the main holdings of the House for when they need it. Basically it's a nice wild card which we should use when it's safe (Within the run for example) or when the profit outreaches the risk. Such as when we have the chance to capture a Heavy or take out a larger enemy fleet.
>>43812858>You could choose to take it either way. In their defense they would say it was your fault for flying through an active war zone.That would work if our ships flew through an active battle zone, but an attack by their ships on a convoy nowhere NEAR an active battle can't possibly claim that.We couldn't stop a damned Erid ship that we had solid evidence of carrying a member of a noble kidnapping ring without it being an act of war, but someone can purposely target our convoy vessels?Fuck that, I say we take 2 DACRV wings, a Mixed wing and our Medium.We jump in on top of their clarents and any knight cruisers lingering near the station, shred them beyond any recovery and leave a message to Nassidium that if they want to commit an act of blatant war upon JD, this is what they reap. No salvage, no boarding. Just slag their ships without mercy and leave any life pods for someone else to recover.If they send a formal apology, this will be the end of it. Or they can push us into supporting the Ruling House.
>>43813034Let's start a blood feud with one of the most powerful houses in the dominion. What could possibly go wrong.
>>43813144The Dominion seems to run on shows of force, not any sort of internal logic or consistency.If we give them a big enough bloody nose, they're more likely to say 'fuck it, we do not want them helping the Ruling House'. It will also weaken their greater position within this galaxy.We're already on their shit list for JD being a fairly large pro-RH House.
>>43812899>>43812943>[ ] 1 Assault Wing + Mediums + x>>43813034>[ ] 2 Assault Wings + Mediums + mixed Escort>>43812947>TSTG, what problems could sending Forbearance with 1 AB merc unit and 2 additional wings of DA/CRVs cause?There is a good chance everyone will just avoid it. There is also a chance House Nasidum will try to launch a full scale assault on it to capture, cripple or destroy.The House has always been worried it will become a giant fire magnet. Fortunately it's had enough time getting upgrades that it stands a chance of surviving it.>>43813034>That would work if our ships flew through an active battle zoneAs far as Nasidum is concerned the area surrounding the station, their territory and all Ruling House territory is an active war zone. Anyone who disagrees on this point can and will get shot at. By them. J-D and Erid were trying to keep the peace in terms of treaties in your example. This is now war time and might makes right.>No salvageWoah, that's uh, not a request I see too often.
>>43813412>Might makes rightEven more reason to demonstrate that they shouldn't screw with us if they want to maintain their might.>no salvageIt would be impractical for us to attempt salvage of vessels used to vector in larger raiding forces. I'm saying slag them to both make a point (inflict maximum casualties to their crews) and deny them the ability to return anything knocked out to service. Scorched Salvage, if you will.
>>43813412>Forbearance I see, thanks. I still think we should use the ship to grab Nasidum's heavy in our relay.Anyway, given what's around the nav station, I'd like to suggest Sonia's medium, 2 DA/CRV wings, and one of the AB merc units. The other Houses are welcome to contribute ships.I would also like to have Forbearance moved to the J-D/RH border, in case Nasidum feels like intercepting our convoy with their main raiding fleet. We should probably inform the RH about that so they're not worried about our heavier ships showing up close to their territory.>Woah, that's uh, not a request I see too often.It's complete madness. Sonia should probably see a shrink, all the worry about her family is making her consider derpy plans again.
>>43813412>Woah, that's uh, not a request I see too often.It's heresy is what it is. Besides we really could use just about all of those ships. Mostly the Exodus ships and the Mediums but the Knight classes would be VERY nice to have with our limited manpower. If we could cripple and salvage them then that would greatly boost our military strength and get us that much closer to being able to survive once Forbearance leaves.
>>43813573Forbearance isn't leaving Sonia's grasp unless they pry it from her cold dead fingers!I joke but really I do like the one anons suggestion about putting near the Arab border and waiting to see if Nasidum tries to pick a fight.
>>43813412I'd like to send 2 units, if possible.One to escort the convoy. And another one to capture some of those exodus battleships. Are they easily captured for a ship of that size? What ships do well against them? We need heavier ships in the run, and these should be decent enough against most lesser threats.
>>43813641>Are they easily captured for a ship of that size?Had to say. There's no way of telling where the bridge is on them since they look like a custom job. You could disable the engines then bring in your own exodus drive sections since they're relatively easy to swap out.I've got to post some drawings of those at some point if I haven't. It will take a couple of days to prep that equipment as you'll otherwise need to bring in a Kilo to quickly salvage it.Do so? Y/N?It looks like we're deploying with 1.5 wings of assault corvettes, Sonia's Medium and the Merc afterburner units. Binil will add most of a mixed attack wing.Ber'helum will send 4 fast battleships and 1 assault squadron. They'll also have a carrier group on standby sticking with Forbearance if that's ok?Forbearance will be moved to the entrance of the Run and the RH will be alerted to your fleet movements.Sounds good? If so roll 3d100 for the approach.
Rolled 73, 61, 72 = 206 (3d100)>>43813883YSalvage for the Savlage goddess, which is Sonia.
Rolled 100, 99, 95 = 294 (3d100)>>43813883Y
Rolled 92, 4, 100 = 196 (3d100)>>43813883YSounds good boss!
>>43813980I know right? I can barely breath. They are sooooo fucked.
>>43813960>>43813970.... Anons, I don't know who you are or what you have done but you never god damn wash those dice and keep sacrificing whatever you do.Also I except something fucking amazing form a 100, 99, 100And by amazing I do mean AMAZING. This will be beautiful.
>100,99,100Sonia's face when.
>Y>Y>YDidn't think to ask this before. Did you want to delay your convoy escort until the salvage team is ready to snag one of those ships, go now and grab one later, or just bring along an extra Kilo class?
>>43814032How long until a salvage Kilo is ready? Longer than a day go now.
>>43814032>ready to snag one of those ships>one of those ships>oneNigga we got all of them. The dice god demands it.
>>43814032It seems the only Kilo we can bring is the Binil Baron's. If he's okay with coming along it could definitely be useful and I wouldn't even mind selling the converted transport/BB to Binil as a support ship for the medium after our engineers had a look at it.
>>43814032If it does not affect this increadibly delicious roll? Delay. Need to get the best grab of ship for our buck now don't we?
>>43814014This is better than the time we got treble twenties and fragged that guy with an RPG
>>43814032I believe bringing an extra Kilo class would be best, as they would be able to snag any damaged transports if we are hit by raiders.It is an objectively solid choice, despite breaking the 'kilos are for escorting the super' rule.
>>43814032Do it. Do it! DO IT! HYPE LIKE NEVER BEFORE!
>>43813883>I've got to post some drawings of those at some point if I haven'tI think I haven't seen any. It would also give me something to put on the wiki again.
>>43813960>>43813970Your fleet manages to make it through the main navigation route to the station unmolested and even unspotted until it drops out of FTL. Which is why every Nasidum ship within visual range of the station is taken completely by surprise when the fleet appears. "Multiple hostiles within weapons range. House Nasidum IFF's.""Open fire. Try to disable the larger ones." Space around the station lights up with weapons fire. Your helmsman adjusts course to bring the medium cannons to bear on the Exodus battleship which is trying to bring its turrets to bear. The ship is attempting to engage its FTL as both shots hammer its shields, the second penetrating enough to cut through the upper drive sections. Drive plasma blasts out of the craters in each drive module sending the battleship out of control. Seeing an opportunity your battlecruisers get in close and tackle it with tractor beams, LST's launching to begin boarding. Ten other ships scattered around the station are quickly disabled either by your fleet or your allies leaving the safely of the station defense perimeter. Transports are soon moving to the jump point while corvettes perform a quick sweep. A second Exodus battleship and one Clarent are the only ones to jump out of the area before you could get them. One of the Battleship captains contact you."Don't feel bad about them getting away sir. We've seen them jump in and out at a pin drop only for others to jump in from better angles. Even with our fire superiority we probably shouldn't stick around." The Navigators, while happy the Nasidum ships are gone for the moment, are angry about fighting taking place so close to the station. Some stray fire from your corvettes did hit the station shields but didn't really cause much damage. Every civilian ship that had been waiting in dock are quickly making a run for it as you recover the crippled battleship using Binil's Medium.
"Marines, I want that ship cleared of hostiles before we risk jumping out of the system." Gunnery crews have caused one of the turrets to melt down before the Marines can get to it. That's fairly minor, the engineers saw plenty of that in your early battles for the Run, only they had mostly been caused by battle damage or lack of maintenance. It's not long before a few Knight class ships have jumped in several AU out from the station, keeping an eye on things. Most of the civilian ships have decided to either risk launching now at the last minute or wait for the long haul. "Ship is secure." Report the marines. Salvage teams begin the final efforts of locking down the larger ship while a couple of Knight and Clarent are docked on the opposite side of the ship. [ ] Get back to the Run ASAP[ ] Taunt Nasidum, Get back to the Run ASAP[ ] Wait to cover more salvage / additional civilian traffic[ ] Other
>>43814810>[ ] OtherCover all civilian ships heading for our nav relay until they jump, and then get out of there asap. Do not antagonise Nasidum. Seriously. Don't.Also, apologize to the Navigators.>Fusion turret destroyedWe should probably replace them with plasma cannons anyway.
>>43814810[ ] Wait to cover more salvage / additional civilian trafficI know we probably shouldn't but the Salvage calls to me. It sings, like a Siren on the high sea calls to the lone sailor on the night watch. Singing of promises not even his wildest dreams could imagine. Promises of salvage. And sharks.
>>43814810>[ ] Wait to cover more salvage / additional civilian traffic
>>43814810[x] Get back to the Run ASAP[x] Torp any wrecks we haven't slagged or secured.Leave nothing for them to recover.
>>43814810>[X] Get back to the Run ASAP
>>43814810>[X] Get back to the Run ASAP We got what we wanted and now time to head back. Maybe make sure most of the civilian are on their way before heading out.
>>43814810>[ ] Get back to the Run ASAPWe need to do our job before we get caught out.
>>43814810>[x] Wait to cover more salvage / additional civilian traffic
"Prepare to jump out. Signal any civilian ships that haven't jumped yet that we'll only wait an extra minute for them. If they can't jump by then they should turn back now."The leading unit jumps followed by the transports and assigned escorts. Your ship, escort and those attack cruisers with aft weaponry are last. Sensors have detected a pair of Mediums and a few Battleships beginning to mass at the edges of the system by the time you jump out. "Now to see if any of them pursue us. Sensors and navigators, keep an eye out for long range readings that might be ships trying to ambush us."Along the main route back to the Run there are two sightings of Nasidum ships but in both cases they're moving away from the reversion and alignment points. They must have been warned by the rest of their fleet that you were headed their way. Once the fleet has arrived at the still damaged refugee processing station your people start going through the work of sorting civilian ships wanting to pass through the Run. Only a few are here to drop off refugees and are directed to the secondary facility under escort. Some ships head off down the run while others take the opportunity to dock at Rioja for a change of scenery while they figure out what to do while no longer trapped. Daska contacts you. "The Pirates tried launching a series of raids. They knew you left the Run with a large fleet so there are spies somewhere."Evidently not ones that have speedy communications with the Nasidum fleet.Roll 1d100 for how much of the pirates were wiped out.>in b4 1
Rolled 13 (1d100)>>43815205Rolling
Rolled 97 (1d100)>>43815205or their backers didn't tell them because LOL.
Rolled 42 (1d100)>>43815244Oh my god the rolls today are just amazing. There is like 1 ship left.
>>43815268And we probably managed to capture quite a few of those ships and crews largely intact.
>>43815244Man, Sonia really can't handle politics in any capacity, but she sure as shit can kill people.
>>43815383Good, maybe they'll escape and tell everyone how much asswhooping we delivered. If we could fight like this all the time, we'd be the Ruling House.
>>43815244..."They must have thought enough ships were gone that they could hit everywhere at once. It looks like we had been able to map movements of nearly all of their ships.""Mostly?""I believe there may be some left but there's no way to be sure right now. It will take time to sort through statements from captured crews. Some may have teleported away."Well you'll have to put word out to look for teleport capsules. For now it looks like piracy and criminal activity will be back to it's normal levels. With the arrival of the convoy and reinforcements your House and others in the Run can get to work strengthening your position and preparing for more fighting. The university you'd made sure was going to be key area of learning once operating looks like it will be used as a military accademy for the time being. As your city continues to expand additional military prep schools and base facilities will be expanded to take over that role but for now it's the best place. >Local fleet recovery rate increased!Do you want to add footage from your recent victory to local propaganda?
>>43815556Yeah, why not.
>>43815556Hell yeah. At this rate I'd be surprised to see any more pirates in the run by the end the decade .
>>43815556>Do you want to add footage from your recent victory to local propaganda?Make sure to mention the contribution of the less popular service branches. Like the navigators for allowing us to surprise the enemy that easily, the gunners on the larger starships, and the marines for letting us capture that BB without much trouble.Whoever calculated that jump deserves a medal and a bonus.
>>43815556Absolutely! But why you doin the headdesk Manuever?
>>43815556Oh yes indeed. Our dispatchment of the Pirate threat. Our humiliation of those Nasidum raiders. All the good stuff.Now we should start running convous irregularly between the RH Nav station and the Run for increased trade to the area and more Nasidum salvage. However we should be mindful of saboteurs slipping in or just plain ol terrorists.>>43815679Cause we killed the main threat towards us to soon probably. Now he has to speed up plot. Not that I mind that. Need to destroy more ships and salvage them for our scrap palace.
>>43815709Hmmm raiders like that usually die pretty quick when they get focused like that. So I think they weren't the main threat but a distraction that TSTG wanted around a bit longer.
>>43815556>It looks like we had been able to map movements of nearly all of their shipsHow many ships did they have in the run?
>>43815668Seconding giving the person plotting the jumps something
Would the FA be interested in the designs for the Dominion plasma cannon defense platforms we got from the KE? How's the FA base in the region doing, btw?
News channels through the Run are showing images of the escort mission and evacuation of civilian ships from the guild station before the transports have finished unloading their cargo. The House was only able to send another 40 heavy tanks so you'll have to make do.>Make sure to mention the contribution of the less popular service branches.You ask a few of the people on your PR team to see if they can make this happen. The marines that took part in the boarding action are also rewarded and medals handed out.The Governor brings the rest of the diplomatic party you requested up to speed so he can go back to actually looking after Rioja. They in turn eventually request a meeting with you to discuss policy and future actions.Lead diplomat of the team you requested is a woman by the name of Fadila Saqqaf."Baron Reynard, thank you for the invitation. Firstly I feel you should be made aware that the Earl has given you full permission to declare war on Houses in the region to protect House interests. Obviously he would not expect you to take this responsibility lightly but all the same we would like it if you did not antagonize any of our current allies."That seems simple enough."With the current state of the war and your strong relations with Ber'helum we would suggest finding ways to get them and the Ruling House to work together on mutual defense if at all possible."You point out that the Ruling House hasn't exactly been crying out to you for help."They're being proud, stubborn and stupid. If you go to them and ask to help odds are they'll let you.With the recent convoy escort in force you've struck a relatively minor blow against Nasidum from a material perspective. From a political one it's an embarrassment. They've been able to keep the Ruling House occupied for weeks but couldn't handle a convoy from a minor House. Expect them to be looking for an opportunity to return the favour."
You point out the destruction of the pirates in the Run that they or Bonrah funded."Then they'll be doubly looking for a chance to hurt you and your allies."There are two things the diplomatic team suggests you could go with. One is your proposed anti-piracy campaign. With the success in South Reach and in the Run there is a chance other Houses in the Relay may be more receptive to offers of assistance. The downside is that the acquisition of House Ul'torel territory may make some nervous you'll do the same to them if given a chance. People here are aware of what happened to House Erid. The other is to go on the offensive directly against against House Nasidum and its holdings in the DRH 1 Relay. Preferably before they can secure their holdings well enough to hit back at you."Call it a liberation campaign if you want. The point would be to drive their large fleet out of the Relay and end the blockade at this end." The downside is that such a campaign could leave you vulnerable to attack by Bonrah, but that isn't going away any time soon.What are your plans for the future?[ ] Help Houses deal with the pirates and raiders[ ] Offensive against [ ] Sit back until defense platforms are ready / Ruling House asks for your help[ ] Other
>>43816525>[ ] Help Houses deal with the pirates and raidersPut it out to houses we have good relations with first. But before any big mobilization we make sure th run is secure and stations are complete.
>>43816525>[ ] Help Houses deal with the pirates and raidersThis would include kicking out Nasidum's raiding fleet from DRH 1 space, right? That should in turn enable the RH to retake the minor House that surrendered to Nasidum.Anyway, I think protecting the status quo and prosperity in the relay is something that would not only earn us the favor of Ber'h and RH but also the various neural Helios allies.>They've been able to keep the Ruling House occupied for weeks but couldn't handle a convoy from a minor House.Are the really surprised about this? There's a reason we're having a civil war and have what used the second most powerful faction almost taken over by the successor of General Electric.
>>43816616>This would include kicking out Nasidum's raiding fleet from DRH 1 space, right?Not their main fleet which includes a heavy cruiser and several mediums. They're mostly keeping that confined to the regions near the nav station.Their ships raiding everywhere else int he relay.
>>43816525>"Then they'll be doubly looking for a chance to hurt you and your allies."We should probably tell them about Mr. Wolters.>BonrahDo the diplomats have any information why Bonrah has chosen to remain largely neutral so far?>Not their main fleet which includes a heavy cruiser and several mediums. I see, thank you. This is definitely a problem. I'm afraid that once/if the ruling house loses the nav station, it will be easy to isolate the run from the rest of the galaxy by blocking the remaining station in neutral territory.>Anti piracy campaignWhat if we simply provide consultants, advisors, and maybe a few squads of DA/CRVs to the helios houses and let them lead the campaign instead? And do these guys really only have a single colony?
>>43816525>[ ] Help Houses deal with the pirates and raidersGotta wait for those stealth ships to arrive before we go on the blizkrieg against Nasidum.
>>43816525>[ ] Help Houses deal with the pirates and raiders
>>43816989>And do these guys really only have a single colony?House Nasidum or the Helios allies? The first has 1, the latter has 2. There are outposts, bases and worlds that could in theory be terraformed they're just too expensive. >We should probably tell them about Mr. Wolters.You let them know you laughed off someone who claimed to have information that one of your grandparents may have worked for a pirate."Could that be a problem for me? Is there any way other Houses could use that agaisnt me?""Little danger. That could be more of a problem within the House in the long term.">Do the diplomats have any information why Bonrah has chosen to remain largely neutral so far?"Good cop, bad cop. That and they may not be ready for full scale war with the other Houses yet.">I'm afraid that once/if the ruling house loses the nav station, it will be easy to isolate the run from the rest of the galaxy by blocking the remaining station in neutral territory.If that happens its more likely a more powerful house will try to break the blockade. For now keeping the far station open is tripling or quadrupling flight times and restricting communications bandwidth.>What if we simply provide consultants, advisors, and maybe a few squads of DA/CRVs to the helios houses and let them lead the campaign instead?Temporarily loaning volunteer squadrons is an option. >>43817202They'll arrive soon.Looks like most people want to expand the anti-piracy campaign, at least until the defense platforms are finished being built. Some of the guns for the first platform are finished and the first set of station modules will be done soon, at which point they'll have entered mass production. Not cheap but quick to build.It looks like we still have a few posts left so I'll pick this up in the morning. Give some thought to how much of your fleet you're prepared to commit to helping the other Houses. Also will you be asking Ber'helum to assist in your efforts? See you then.
>>43817544Thanks for running, seeya in the morning!
>>43817544Before I forget about it, we should make sure to thank the Houses that sent ships to help with the convoy.>Looks like most people want to expand the anti-piracy campaign, at least until the defense platforms are finished being built.One thing that might allow us to strengthen the RH fleet while still focusing on the pirates would be to conduct training sessions joint exercises with 1 or 2 of their units for a week at a time.Another idea that might help prevent Bonrah from gaining too much influence in the short term would be to use the goodwill we'll earn by fighting pirates to rope the neutral houses surrounding them into an alliance with Helios. It would also help to alleviate their worries about J-D forcefully absorbing them.>Give some thought to how much of your fleet you're prepared to commit to helping the other Houses+ I'd like to field the AB merc units in alternating deployments. One in the field, one at home. Have them switch places every two weeks or so.+ If Daska's okay with it, I'd like to deploy the two Aries BBs as local command ships for the smaller anti-pirate units that are going to be operating independently away from our territory, as I would prefer not to deploy any larger ships than these unless we start running into much bigger pirate ships.+Ask Daska if she'd be willing to use her light cruiser squad to help out with this.+1 A2 wing from Sonia and Daska's forces each+1.5 DA/CRV wings from Sonia+See if any of the other Houses in our alliance would like to contribute ships>OtherWould it be possible to put an engine and some shields on one of the sensor arrays we bought and use it as a sensor ship?>House Nasidum or the Helios?The Helios allies. Seems like I managed to miss one of their colonies.>Also will you be asking Ber'helum to assist in your efforts?I'd prefer if they'd open talks with the ruling house about getting rid of nasidum before they have a chance to entrench their forces.
>>43816525>[ ] Offensive againstBiggest risk, Biggest gains, and if we hit hard and fast enough we can maybe even do an under the table pay-off to Bonrah to not take advantage.
>>43817544>You let them know you laughed off someone who claimed to have information that one of your grandparents may have worked for a pirate.>"Could that be a problem for me? Is there any way other Houses could use that against me?">"Little danger. That could be more of a problem within the House in the long term."Fuck it, I think we should play it up and own that shit if it ever comes out. Say that it explains our propensity for Salvage, wear an awesome hat, and make a movie out of it that is clearly a rip on our career.Stay normal when talking to actual people who matter, so that they can respect us for having a rogueish charm with the masses.
>>43818972We should have just paid him the 100k, that's like change to us...
>>43820524>We should have just paid him the 100k, that's like change to us...Sadly, that was never an option to vote on. And it wasn’t picked up the three or four times it was mentioned.>>43818972That would have been part of my follow-up plan if we had gone with paying him for finding out as much information on our pirate-history as possible.
Hey TSTG, one quick question: is there a reason you only archive threads after they are finished? I ask because I don't browse tg regularly but do check suptg and thus have missed more than one thread. If there's no other reason than tradition, would you mind archiving at the start of the thread?
>>43821391Just follow his twitter, chances are the threads are archived at the end to have a more accurate summary.
>>43820566>Sadly, that was never an option to vote on. And it wasn’t picked up the three or four times it was mentioned.Literally right there in the survey that is still open. 1 person voted for it.>>43821391Because I don't know what to put as a summary of what happened in the thread? There have been many times where I thought I knew what I was going to put as the summery at the start of the thread and in the end those things didn't happen.>>43818381>conduct training sessions joint exercises with 1 or 2 of their (RH) units for a week at a time.Is anyone interested in this?>use the goodwill we'll earn by fighting pirates to rope the neutral houses surrounding them into an alliance with HeliosThose are Houses that won't necessarily be allied with Ber'helum. It you want to encourage them along those lines it would help increase your standing with Helios. On the other hand if you wanted to increase Ber'helum's influence in this Relay you could help protect their space so they could commit more of their fleet to helping.>Would it be possible to put an engine and some shields on one of the sensor arrays we bought and use it as a sensor ship?You'd need to attach it to a Y-type Transport or Moli. A Medium cruiser would also work.
>>43822555>Because I don't know what to put as a summary of what happened in the thread? There have been many times where I thought I knew what I was going to put as the summery at the start of the thread and in the end those things didn't happen.Maybe just say where we pick off from? I don't know, it's not major and maybe I'm the only one who does it that way.
>>43822555>Literally right there in the survey that is still open. 1 person voted for it.Sorry, I understood that as paying him that much instead of the million he asked for. I voted for refusing instead, because that fit the question more directly. Since several people have talked about this in the thread and only one person voted for that option, others seem to have misunderstood it as well.>Is anyone interested in this?I would be interested in helping the Royal House since our situation is well enough now that we can spare a wing or two. I’m not sure whether training sessions or exercises would be the best use. Plain old helping them against pirates might work better.>Encourage neutrals to joining HeliosI think we need some of their goodwill, so I would be alright with that.
>>43822555Put un-aligned Houses with Helios and then help Ber'Helum out so they can have a greater presence in the relay.
>>43822555>Those are Houses that won't necessarily be allied with Ber'helum.>It you want to encourage them along those lines it would help increase your standing with Helios.I would suggest doing both. In the territory of Houses closer to House Bonrah, we do our best to have neutral Houses join Helios.In the part of the area closer to J-D we let Ber'helum units get most of the credit so they can expand their influence with those Houses.Here's a rough sketch of where I'd like to see the relay once the current conflict is over, assuming ther Bonrah stays neutral for some reason.>You'd need to attach it to a Y-type Transport or Moli.Didn't we manage to salvage 2 Molis that brought the pirate ships into the run?
>>43822592It has became more common over the years for people to archive early because of the troll archiver. So far for what ever reason it hasn't been a major problem. Or not often. >>43822648>Sorry, I understood that as paying him that much instead of the million he asked for.Because it would have been? It just would have been a case of putting terms on him getting that 100k. You'd either pay him or not, anything after that is just haggling.Do you guys want to contact him and offer a contract for him to assist a geneticist in compiling an Official Dominion Genealogical Accreditation?Basically this is a thing that traces your family tree back as far as possible. This is a big thing among some nobles who want to be able to trace their lineage to powerful rulers and the like. Dro'all are big into this too with full blooded nobles tending to live a longer life span.>>43822792>Didn't we manage to salvage 2 Molis that brought the pirate ships into the run?They were mostly salvageable yes.>Here's a rough sketch of where I'd like to see the relay once the current conflict is overInteresting. May not all be possible but some of it could be. So, a combination of helping Helios allies and helping Ber'helum. If people supported this plan it would really be a question of how much you're prepared to commit to it. If Daska's force and Forbearance were to keep an eye on the front door it would free up much of Sonia's fleet for anti-piracy work. Or you could go the other way and Reinforce Daska with a few wings and send her out.[ ] Build up Helios Allies[ ] Build up Ber'helum allies[ ] Why not both?[ ] Other
>>43822934>[ ] Why not both?Send Daska out with a couple extra ships.
>>43822934>[X] Why not both?>May not all be possible but some of it could be. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. It made to give a rough idea of how I'd like to use Helios to box Bonrah in while preventing conflict with Ber'helum. I actually wanted J-D sectors to surround as many of the nav hazards as possible, but that wasn't easily doable on that map.>Wing ManagementHow much do we talk to our Knight (LT)s? Winifred used to deal with Sonia pretty early (even before she was a knight?), while I think we haven't even seen the names of anybody ranking below Drake in our fleet. >Do you guys want to contact him and offer a contract for him to assist a geneticist in compiling an Official Dominion Genealogical Accreditation?I'd be okay with that.>Daska or SoniaI think Sonia is better suited ot this line of work, while Daska is probably more suited to play nice with the RH, given she's a proper noble and Dro'all etc.
>>43822934[ ] Why not both?Would like to note that it would probably be good to make these Houses more friendly towards us as well and not only help out other Houses so they will ally with the big two instead. We should also be on the lookout for more Houses whose territory we can get for ourselves one way or another. JD hegemony over DRH1 can only end well for us.Also I'd say we should go. We need some action.
>>43822934>Do you guys want to contact him and offer a contract for him to assist a geneticist in compiling an Official Dominion Genealogical Accreditation?Sure. But maybe get someone else at that academy to do it? Unless the guy who approached us was the specialist, in which case he can do it.>[x] Why not both?I think the responsible thing to do would be to hold the position here and send Daska with maybe 3 Wings to hunt pirates. (Actually, how fast could those come back in an emergency?)On the other hand, hunting pirates seems fun, so I vote for >Sonia to hunt pirates while Daska secures the rung
>>43823027>I think we haven't even seen the names of anybody ranking below Drake in our fleet.I'll work on that. Need to figure out what lower ranking people from the old gang are out here.>>43818381>deploy the two Aries BBs as local command ships Should be fine.>+Ask Daska if she'd be willing to use her light cruiser squad to help out with this.Daska wants to assign them to help with convoy escort through the Run >+See if any of the other Houses in our alliance would like to contribute shipsBinil will contribute a mixed attack wing but they'll be rotating out so only half will be in the field at a time. A Corvette wing from House Trin'qua will also assist. They're not willing to send more until the platforms are up.>+1 A2 wing from Sonia and Daska's forces each>+1.5 DA/CRV wings from Sonia>>43823378>Daska with maybe 3 Wings to hunt pirates.Would 2 assault corvette wings and 1 attack corvette wing be ok?
>>43823489Would Binil be willing to send their light cruiser squad? I'd like some more ships that can move disabled or damaged transports more easily than corvettes can.>Would 2 assault corvette wings and 1 attack corvette wing be ok?I'm okay with that setup.>Binil will contribute a mixed attack wing What kind ship do they have?>J-D AB merc unitAre these guy using Dusk ACs?
>>43822934[X] bothLet's do it. Let's form the ultimate dominion dream team. Helios, Ber'helum, Phobos, JD.
Has the bump limit been raised some time during the past month? We're beyond 300 and apparently have not hit autosage.
>>43823552>Would Binil be willing to send their light cruiser squad?Maybe eventually but not right at this moment.>>43823747Oh. Well, I've archived in any case.>>43823552>>J-D AB merc unit>Are these guy using Dusk ACs?They're using a bunch of different ships. Firestorm II's, Vengeance and Jenning. They were also given access to EC-K Attack Cruisers and Dusk II Attack Cruisers so some of those have been added.
>>438234892 Seems okay to me. I just want to shoot a lot of stuff and steal all dat salvage.>>43823747Huh, you are right. You know what this means TSTG. The thread never ends.
>>43823747310.>>43823945Thanks for running, TSTG!
>>43823945>Maybe eventually but not right at this moment.Well, I guess that's okay. Where does Binil stand on the various issues important to J-D and Sonia? It seems like they're the most important House in the Run Alliance after ours, so we should make sure we're not displeasing them by accident.
>>43824063>310Thanks. I was hoping for 350 or 400, raising it by 10 seems pretty weird.
>>43823552>Binil will contribute a mixed attack wing >What kind ship do they have?Mostly older style ones that have seen some upgrades. Vengeance, U-Haul, Smuggler and firestorm and archerfish frigates. Some attack corvettes.>It seems like they're the most important House in the Run Alliance after oursTrin'qua also has a fleet similar in size to Binil but they're guarding the other end so their force strength isn't listed.>>43824154It's certainly an odd number.It looks like Sonia will be leading the anti-piracy force instead of Daska.Correct me if I'm wrong. A pair of Athena BS will act as local command ships for smaller groups. There are enough afterburner systems available to equip some of the newer corvettes with them. As a result you don't necessarily need the mercenaries to be everywhere at once.Do you want the Mercs assisting your units or have a squadron of them providing assistance to the Ruling House with their issues?
>>43824302>Do you want the Mercs assisting your units or have a squadron of them providing assistance to the Ruling House with their issues?Let them decide. They're mercs, I don't mind allowing them to decide themselves. If they have managed to survive this long, it usually means they know what's best for them.>Trin'qua also has a fleet similar in size to Binil Do they also have a medium in the run?
>>43824302Definitely want them with us. Afterburner units are awesome to have with us and will kick a lot of ass I am sure.
>>43824302I'd prefer if we kept our units with us. Don't want to send out lone squadrons like that and risk them getting cut off or the like or ambushed by a Medium Cruiser.
>>43824374>Do they also have a medium in the run?Yes. An Eminence Class I think.Your fleet heads out in an effort to hunt down the raiders plaguing the rest of the region. Engineers are working on getting one of the transports ready if you really do waht to put a sensor array on it.The first set of armored station modules have been sent out to help build the defense platforms at the other end of the Run. It shouldn't take too long to build up defenses strong enough to give even the Nasidum main fleet in the relay trouble. Helping the Houses clear out raiders hitting their space is importat but that won't do much good if the main navigation routes can't be trusted. Roll 2d100 for difficulty in clearing the main route.
Rolled 2 (1d100)>>43824560>Roll 2d100 for difficulty in clearing the main route.First roll.
Rolled 3, 19 = 22 (2d20)>>43824560
Rolled 52, 84 = 136 (2d100)>>43824595Gods damnit!! Sorry fingers hit the wrong damn keys.
Rolled 61 (1d100)>>43824590Ouch. Second roll.>>43824595d100s.
Rolled 80, 56 = 136 (2d100)>>43824560
>>43824590>>43824606>>43824617>>43824648>80, 84Dice gods are still favoring us with their presence it seems.
The first fast patrols of the main route encounter several raiders which the mercenaries are all too happy to clear out. Salvage teams are brought in to recover the crippled enemy ships and help transports back to the remaining navigator station. Subsequent patrols by the rest of your fleet manage to scare off or destroy several more.A day of your anti-piracy blitz is enough for everyone to get the picture. The smaller raider units pull back from the main line and focus on the space of the other Houses.Drake reports in after escorting a few civilian ships back to the station. "We'll need to send patrols along the line to keep it clear. Maybe we could set them up to take place at random intervals to catch raiders off guard?" You'll give it some thought. The guild has some warships to defend their stations against direct attacks, maybe they'll consider running convoys consisting solely of civilian ships? Wit that out of the way you need to figure out what Houses need your assistance the most. Should you try to assist those in closer proximity to Bonrah to prevent them from joining their camp? Those along the main nav lane will be easier and possibly faster to help out. Or should you help those that have a harder time shrugging off damage from the raids? [ ] Houses closest to Bonrah[ ] Those closest to the lane[ ] Help the little guys
>>43825104>[ ] Houses closest to BonrahFollowed by the little guys if possible.
>>43825104>[ ] Help the little guysWe need those prevent these guys guys from becoming desperate. We can hopefully handly or at least stall everything else with our diplomats but these guys could collapse before we can react.>MapIs there anything we can do to get the sector marked with 1 to ally with Helios before Nasidum conquers them?Sector 2 seems like another target we should focus on. With a colony, 2 logistics bases, and a RH base, I'd hate to see it fall to Bonrah.
>>43825104>[x] Help the little guysThese are the breeding grounds and retreats of raiders. Well, at least the second one.
I've marked sectors I think will be cruicial in green.>Nasidum frontWe can't allow them to creep into the rest of the relay. Helios territory should be able to act as a buffer, as they don't seem to have any actual colonies or bases in the area, it seems crucial to secure sectors with these.Once our allies start phasing out older corvette moddels for DA/CRVs, we should consider selling these ships to Helios, to help them establish an actual fleet without having to run the blockade.>Bonrah frontTry to get sectors with important locations or significant infrastructure to join helios. Connecting Helios territory should also hinder hostilities between the other two large houses in the area.We now have a connection through non-hostile territory to House Phobos via Ber'helum and Helios space. We should consider increasing trade with them.Are the Rovinar still neutral?Is the RH willing to provide us with data on their battles against the Nasidum fleet?
>>43825104[ ] Those closest to the laneWe maintain the trade line and we keep the life line of the entire relay from clogging and dying on us. The ones off the lane will in turn suffer under the pirates and privateers for a while until we can sweep in and take over their territory either by buying it again or, in the case of hostile Houses, take over by force.
>>43825104>[ ] Houses closest to Bonrah>[ ] Those closest to the lane>[ ] Help the little guysWould it be possible to mark the secorts on the map corresponding to which choice includes them?
>>43825416>>43825494>[ ] Those closest to the laneThese anons get it. Secure a block along the trade line to keep pirates out and block Nasidum from expanding to far. We got enough problems brewing in Bonrah for Nasidum to become a bigger problem than they are. Especially since they will have it out for us for embarrassing them.
>>43825256>Is there anything we can do to get the sector marked with 1 to ally with Helios before Nasidum conquers them?Not really. Most of the uncoloured ones are nominally allied with the Ruling House or at least not with any major Houses currently in the relay.That one is close enough to the RH/Nasidum battle that to protect it you'd need to directly engage the Nasidum fleet.>>43825256>>438254162 votes for more of an other option. In this case focusing on those that have colonies in the Relay. They'll be more inclined to fight for what's theirs. Losing them would be a serious blow as they're more likely to have populations large enough to support an army.
>>43825622>2 votes for more of an other option.Both of these were me. Sorry I didn't mention that in the posts.
>>43825566Can't decide yet so voting for this.
>>43825622>That one is close enough to the RH/Nasidum battle that to protect it you'd need to directly engage the Nasidum fleet.Are they planning to resist annexation by Nasidum? What forces does that House have? What if the RH and J-D would be willing to provide help with the defence? How long would an invasion take? Long enough to jump the Nasidum forces with our heavy hitters? What does Daska think about the situation?How busy are the major Houses currently present in the relay in the rest of the galaxy. What reinforcements could they possible spare in the next months or so?
>>43825416Many of the sectors in the run don't seem to have any planetry infrastructure. So most of their investments should be in space.What if we offered Houses incapable of protecting their assets in space to relocate them to a more defensible location? We have ships suited to moving even large structures relatively easily, something which would be impossible for smaller houses.
>>43825566Have to get ready for work soon. Didn't think the thread would run this long.
>>43826002Thank you.I'm glad you found the time to run H&D this week, TSTG.I should be able to post a plan before the thread falls off the board.
>>43826002Based off that image (thanks for working it up TSTG), I believe that we should work on the more valuable houses, closest to the trade lane first - followed by the other houses closest to the lane. This will be faster to achieve and it will also form a solid line of allied Houses, preventing Bonrah from advancing.
>>43826123Guess I overestimated myself, the plan going to end up as a wall of text next thread, I guess.
>>43826002That picture makes it obvious we should work on the more valuable houses and let the less valuable ones be for the moment. If we can secure the valuable ones then they will make better allies, with better access and better resources to fight off Bonrah and Nasidum forces.
Alright, have to go. I'll try to remember to put a new survey up when I get back for who you're going to focus your efforts on. See you all whenever I can find time for another game, it will not be in November that's for sure.
>>43826656Thank you for the thread!
>>43826656Thanks for the run and Happy Turkey Day!
>>43826656>it will not be in November that's for sure.This makes me sad. Housing and DOminioning is fun! Catch you later then and thanks for the thread.
>>43826656Thanks for running, friend. See you when we see you.
Dumping this before the thread dies, didn't have a chance to check for errors.DRH 01 Nav Relay Partitioning>>Suggestions:>General:We should dedicated a task force of ships to showing presence in areas with the worst raider presence, regardless of how important the House in that sector is to our plans. We aren't entirely in this for strategic reasons, and we should remember the position J-D had been in when it came to raiders just a few decades ago.Also, instead of just focussing on specific Houses, I would like to suggest we assign each sector an importance and have the local ships show presence and respond to emergencies based on >Bonrah-related:-Bonrah or their allies need access to the main trade route. Everything else should be an insult to a great House, I would assume, given the Dominion mindset.-We need to allow Bonrah to expand. Everything else would probably make them nervous, especially with Ber'helum and Helios gaining territory so close to them.>Nasidum-related:-If engaging Nasidum's fleet is a smart thing to do or not largely depends on if they are able to quickly move forces to the Run, or not. If they cannot spare many ships, we should strike now to limit their expansion in the area. If they are able to send a significant amount of ships to the run if the fleet is defeated, we should focus on slowing them down without doing too serious damage to their fleet until they cannot afford to send more ships.>Helios-related:Helios needs ships in the area. Not from Houses allied to them, but actual Helios ships. Even a wing or two of older ships would be enough but they need forces in the Run to dissuade unwanted ships from going through their territory because people would actually start upsetting Helios directly.>Territory:I've divided our current area of operations into three smaller territories.Red sector: Highly important Yellow sector: Somewhat importantGreen sector: Lowest importance
>>43827081>1: Western nav station theatre:Probably the least important of the three territories. Only one important sector with a decently developed colony close to the nav station. Several semi-important sectores because of the nav station or the presence of the main trade route.Recommended forces:1x Aries BB4x A2 Squad2x DA/CRV Squad1x Binil Mixed Half-Wing>2. Bonrah/Ber'helum centre:Very likely the most important area in the short term with several highly important sectors, lots of industrial capacity, and Ber'helum, Bonrah, and Helios territories present.Recommended forces:1x Sonia's Medium1x BCRS Squad1x Mixed AB Wing1x DA/CRV Wing1x Trinqua A2 Wing>3. Eastern DRH1:Another important region, although very likely less problematic in the short term because none of the larger Houses have any important allies in the region. If we manage to secure the lower sectors for Helios, we'd be able to severely disrupt Nasidum's ability to move forces quickly through the relay.Recommended forces:1x Aries BB2x A2 Squad4x DA/CRV Squad1x Mixed AB WingAnd thanks for the thread TSTG!