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>>45115944
+Current Development+ The presence of a Complex Soul
The Technician now possess a "Complex Soul" and this essentially means they produce their own Mana, but this comes with many new and uncomfortable changes to the Technician:
-The Technician now becomes Hungry, Thirsty and Tired. Although they do not NEED Food or Drink- Mana production makes them hungry, thirsty and tired.
-The Technician now has to go to the bathroom. Whatever they eat or drink eventually has to come out. They currently suffer from mild indigestion and discomfort from having to use their previously untouched intestinal tract.
-The Other Homonculi are more submissive and intuitive towards the Technician needs: The Laborers have begun to feed, cloth and look after them, the Soldiers have begun doting on them and the Dolls have become sexually attracted to them.
-The other Homonculi's moods have dramatically improved and they seem to have significantly more energy.
-The Philosopher's stone no longer wishes to be addressed as "Lilith" by the Technician and their behavior has entirely become more professional. They seem almost embarrassed and apologetic by their previous behavior.

+Current Development+ Independence Achieved
A Single Laborer has achieved complete self-awareness and has ceased their working habits.
They spend their time on the roof garden, staring out into the Horizon; seemingly looking at nothing.

>I've drawn us a little map of the floor. It's not perfect, but it should help you visualize our world as we know it a bit better.
You guys can go ahead and roll:
2 Actions (d20) and 1 Idea (d100)

>>45115944
>>45115964
checking in, whats up cyclopsOP, how was your week(end)?

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>>45115944
>>45115964

This week I've also taken the time to draw us a little Genealogy chart to better document and visualize the current models of Homonculi and how they relate to one another and so forth.

You can see there's a LOT of room for new and various models, so get out there:
Collect Genetics. Expand the Psych. Establish your Independence. Create Beauty.

>>45115985
>checking in, whats up cyclopsOP, how was your week(end)?

We'll just have to see!

Bumping since it is officially "4pm" and I'm up and running.

Rolled 19 (1d100)

Talk to Lilith about the dream, since she featured in it.

If this requires no roll, then I am also rolling for the idea of NAMES, and that we all think up ones

Rolled 1 (1d20)

>>45116016
Have Soldiers train to increase combat efficiency to eventually deal with the Chimera.

Rolled 16 (1d20)

>>45115964
Ask the independent laborer what they are looking for.

Rolled 8 (1d20)

Peek down to the level below, see what's down there

Rolled 4, 16 = 20 (2d20)

>>45116016
rolling twice
First: Speak with the independent Laborer

Next: Imprint on the Otyugh juveniles so they are friendly to Homunculi

Rolled 91 (1d100)

Idea: Personal hygiene and health care. Regular check ups to make sure the new dolls don't suffer any kind of injury like their predecessors

Rolled 2, 13 = 15 (2d20)

>>45116457
i think this should be definitely a priority-

but i also think lillith (philo stone) should get her wish and be called whatever she wants

>>45116016
also holy shit did you do this art? not bad (we should get sleepydrawfag up in here too)

>>45116410
this is a good idea as well

Rolled 65 (1d100)

>>45116591
supporting

What are the last orders we keep carrying out?

Rolled 17 (1d100)

Continue to talk to Lilith, ask her not to be embarrassed. Just because we produce mana doesn't make us the master. We don't want to be superior to the other homonculi


Question: What do we remember of the master? What was he like?

Have a discussion with the laborer that has achieved complete self-awareness.

Rolled 99 (1d100)

>>45116710
i'm an idiot. Maybe this will work.

Rolled 68 (1d100)

Idea: Natural beauty. Self aware laborer observes the garden and starts getting ideas

>>45116736
dang, too bad discussions don't require a roll

Rolled 91 (1d100)

>>45116738
i like this, but to expand- have this laborer (if he wishes) to figure out his purpose in life( for example maybe he wants to be a psychologist or therapist, instead of being a laborer)

basically give him the option to be what he wants

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>>45116444
>Have Soldiers train to increase combat efficiency to eventually deal with the Chimera.
>Roll 1/20
>Complete and total unarguable failure.

The presence of the Chimera prowling around on your floor is a threat your people can't ignore; it's only a matter of time before an accident happens or -god forbid- the giant cat experiments with hunting and killing Homonculi.

However, the Soldiers are.. "distracted".

They've been neglecting their duties to essentially shadow, poke, and mildly harass The Technician ever since they've begun to act out of standard protocol: eating, drinking, sleeping, going to the BATHROOM and now they seem to vividly pick up on the ambient Mana they now produce.

The Technician orders the Soldiers to increase their awareness and adapt their combat tactics in the event of a Chimera Attack.
The Soldiers instead go out and bring him back small dead things in hopes they can see them eat it.
The Technician orders the Soldiers to reschedule their dormancy and re-fueling habits within their containers to better avoid the Chimera.
The Soldiers instead attempt to huddle and squat around the Technician at night to watch them sleep- fleeing when caught. The More Brazen of them having some obscure compulsion to paw or touch the Technician's face while they sleep.

>>45116897
>these Soldiers
We're gonna get eaten.

>>45116951
We're going to sit them down and ask if they wnat everyone to die, Because that's what's going to eventually happen if they don't follow orders, We're trying to do the best for our family, Why aren't they?

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>>45116897
>The Soldiers instead attempt to huddle and squat around the Technician
These are the people who protect us.

>>45116991
I'd suggest we be more gentle. They must be disciplined and set back to work, but we must strive to reward curiosity, especially in the less emotionally gifted members of our ''family''

>>45117092
Nix that, Nevermind, Do this instead>>45117117

Rolled 6 (1d20)

>>45117117
Sure, Remember to roll though mate.

>>45117117
reward system. Completion of tasks means cuddles and time spent with the technician. not just spying on him but him actually interacting with them
>>45117168
We don't roll until the QM tells us to

Rolled 8 (1d20)

>>45116897
not to be rude mate, but can you post when you are going to continue your posts or when we should start giving more ideas/research? im always in limbo where im not sure whether to wait or to start thinking of ideas/research ETC-
it would probably make things go smoother

>>45116991
>>45117144
supporting, seeing as if we dont, the soldiers might just support our genocide in the new few turns

Rolled 5 (1d20)

>>45117117
Nah, they want the D. Technician just had to give them the D. One at the time, leave no one out.
Yeah, Technician might need some time for a recovery afterwards, but this is emergency, sacrifices have to be made.

Rolled 17 (1d20)

>>45116897
Soldiers develop a sense of duty

>>45117168
(I thought we were waiting for OP to respond to a second action first, and just discussing in the meantime, but once that happens I will do.)

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>>45116591
>>45116615
>Personal Hygiene and Health Care.
>Roll 91 + 65
>Good overall rolls met with solid "5" number.

>+Disclosure on Homonculi Hygienics+

For the most part the Technician has observed that your people do not get sick and do not get "dirty": as previously discovered your people seem to produce a strong antibiotic from your dander, with the "dolls" producing an almost pancea-like variation of it (although in smaller organisms it can be a deadly immune-compromising poison).

Whenever your people climb into "rest" very briefly in their lab containers any foreign material or particulate such as dirt, blood or hair seems to be evaporated and consumed by the laboratory- What the Technician only assume to be the Philosopher stone essentially converting and recycling any foreign material available into Mana.

>The Technician
The Technician however has begun to get "dirty" ever since they have begun to eat food and go to the bathroom. Their hair becomes greasy, they develop eye-crusties, they build up mucous and they now need to be kept washed and clean.
This hasn't however been a problem -so far- as the laborers without needing any prompt have begun washing and cleaning up after the Technician. Being a quick learner they've since taught the Technician everything they need to know, but this does not stop the others from doting on them: The Doll's especially enjoying sitting The Technician down and simply grooming them for an hour- seemingly finding meticulously fascination with getting the knots and splints out of their hair or braiding and tying up The Technician's hair to resemble the Doll's own style.

The Technician finds this annoying and their massive breasts oppressive, but they acknowledge their requirements for basic social interaction and allows this.

>>45117211

If we give them a Designation, everyone is going to want one.

>>45117117
>but we must strive to reward curiosity
I strongly disagree. They can be curious, but it shouldn't interfere with their duties. Its just like with children/animals; you reward good behavior, punish bad behavior. Them not training, and being derelict in their duties, is bad behavior and deserves punishment.

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>>45116736
>>45116831
>>45116457
>Confront and Discuss with the independent Laborer.
>99/100
>DOUBLES ACHIEVED. HOT 99'S COMPLETE SUCCESS AND INTERESTING RESULTS ACHIEVED.

The Technician finally finds some spare time to go up onto the garden roof top and check in on the Laborer who has since ceased working and has seemingly idled for a few days now.

They're found in the same spot they've been for the past few days, they haven't moved at all; the other laborers, perhaps sympathetic to their sibling have been dusting off the leaves, shooing away the birds and occasionally dumping a small bucket of mana onto them poured from the lab.

Quietly standing beside the laborer, the Technician looks out onto the Horizon with them and just waits there.
They hear the wind howl past the tower and through it's various cracks and openings, they see the clouds glide and flow past like moving mountains of white fluff, they see birds- dozens and hundreds of birds flying in and out of the tower regularly.

It isn't until dusk, with the Garden immersed in a warm, comforting glow of orange hued evening light that the Laborer finally says something,
"I had a dream the other night. I had a vision of things I've never seen before, things I can't put into words or even begin to understand. It's filled me with a sense of compulsion."

"I have to leave."
>+Minor Development: Adventurer
>The Laborer desires three things:
>They wish to be customized slightly. They don't evaluate on what they wish customized, but they would like permission to access the lab briefly.
>Within the private bedroom of the Arcanum, ontop of the hearth's mantle there is a sword. The Laborer wishes to have it.
>Finally: The Laborer wishes to be released.

>>45117273
As of yet this curiosity has done nothing incredibly harmful. I reiterate that they must be disciplined and set to work as ordered, as previously stated, but again, as stated, curiosity is one of the things that sets us apart from the toys and tools the master created.

>>45117496

Alright, that's three.

You guys can go ahead and roll for new Actions, new Ideas as well as responding to this request: >>45117496

You do not need to roll for the success of any Actions taken towards helping this : >>45117496 unless you're rolling AGAINST it or are trying to otherwise convince the laborer to stay/change their mind.

Keep in mind that just because they want to leave doesn't mean they'll be gone forever.

Rolled 7 (1d20)

>>45117496
Discipline the Soldiers.

>>45117555
Let the Laborer go. We're just beginning to explore the concept of curiosity, why stifle it now? Besides, if we turn him down, it'll discourage the others when they wake up.

Rolled 16 (1d20)

>>45117496
He can leave. But.

He needs to undergo training from Soldiers BEFORE modification.
When he gets modified, we shall oversee the process.
He needs to undergo training from Soldiers AFTER modification.

He can only leave after beating the Chimera alone. The soldiers will only be there to drag him out of the way if his life is in danger.

Rolled 18 (1d20)

>>45117496
Approved, on the condition that technician gets to question&analyze the Laborer in the Lab

Rolled 80 (1d100)

>>45117555
Come up with a concept of names, to distinguish between individuals. If this is too far down the path of development, then the next logical step towards this goal.

Rolled 8 (1d20)

>>45117496
Discipline Soldiers ('cause goddamn)

Rolled 3 (1d20)

>>45117555
Customize the adventure

>>45117496
More information is required.


Where does the labrorer want to go? What does he want to do?

>>45117583
>>45117664
These Soldiers are clearly bad stock.
We need new ones.

Rolled 5 (1d20)

>>45117496
Do NOT discipline the soldiers, instead talk to them. Ask them why they are obsessed with us. Point out that they are impairing their ability to protect our family.

Offer reward for good service, and extend our love for them

>>45117708
They're part of our family

Rolled 18 (1d20)

>>45117583
>>45117664
>>45117716
>these shit rolls for Soldiers
Kill the Soldiers, dump the bodies in the vat, and pray we get better Soldiers.

Rolled 17 (1d20)

>>45117716
Supporting this

>>45117744
>>45117716
Yeah, no killing our family.
Lets set up a good boy (girl?) point system

>>45117708
>>45117749
Veto!

>>45117749
VOTING AGAINST THIS

Rolled 56 (1d100)

>>45117772
that was suppose to go with a roll

>>45117749
VETOOO!!!!

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>>45117749
No, Go fuck yourself.

Rolled 7 (1d20)

>>45117496
Yes. Ask the Laborer to return from its travels to share stories from time to time.

Also some of this >>45117639. It's dangerous out there.

Rolled 46 (1d100)

>>45117749
Talk to Lilith about the adventurer, ask her how she would customize him.

Ideas for customization: mouth with functional digestive track

eyes and ears

Perfect recall?

Idea: Names

Rolled 10 (1d100)

>>45117639
supporting, although you really think he can take the chimera alone?
---
also with regards to the laborer, wouldnt that be making a new model? im thinking we should have him alot more tanky (think the spine of the dolls) and the plating/weapons of the warriors

he can be our first shock-troop model (as a test) this is good and could definitely kick this civ into high gear, i say we let him go and even give him 1 or 2 warriors as bodyguards (even ask a doll if she wants to go, she can be a medic type if she so pleases)

ALSO all these rolls with "names" im not sure cyclopsOP wants identities/names although im just assuming that

Rolled 7 + 1 (1d20 + 1)

>>45117749
let's not do that and instead try and try a more diplomatic approach like>>45117716

>>45117749
Ahahahaha no.
Veto.

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>>45117583
>>45117664
>>45117772
>>45117764
>>45117749

>Massively conflicting feelings towards proper disciplinary action.
>Disjointed rolls: 17, 5, 3, 8 vs 18
>Soldiers roll in their defense: 19

The Technician has never had to "discipline" or assert their dominance over anyone or anything before- everyone had just previously fell in line before, dutifully doing what they were told and so forth, but the Soldiers have become to appreciate and express a little more independence than previously observed and this has become disruptive and could potentially compromise the safety of your community.

The Technician gathers the Soldier Models you have for a quick assemble in order to properly discipline them, but they admit to themselves they know not the first thing about disciplining other Homonculi- they briefly thick and wonder if they'll be forced to "dispose" of and have the Soldiers "recycled" and re-registered so they might behavior better.

As soon as this thought occurs the Soldiers in the room begin to perk up:
The little Technician is overcome by a horrible debilitating pain centralized in the front of their head. They begin to dry heave, they clutch their stomach, they fall over, their nose and eyes begin to run with mucous and they start vomiting- emptying their stomach before they coil up onto the floor. Rolling around, shivering, the Technician coughs and wretches up until their stomach is emptied and even then they continue to dry heave this clear, mucousy fluid.

The Soldiers gently cradle the Technician and take them back to the lab- placing them within their container and taking shifts watching over them meticulously as they recover within the mana soup.

>+Homonculi Feature Discovered: Model-Restricted Negative Feedback.
>Your kind seem to be programmed with some sort of "kill-switch" to prevent you from hurting or killing one another.

>>45118283
So we can't hurt each other. Well that solves civil war real quick.
I guess we can offer that labourer freedom but still be a part of us. As in he can leave, and he can become some kind of emissary for us I. The land.

>>45117907
it's for everyone

Soldiers will realize they need to get back in gear.
We are testing for independent thought
An adventurer needs to prove they can face adversity.

and what better way to start off an adventure than as a "hero"?

Rolled 3 (1d100)

>>45118283
get everyone's opinion(including Lilith/the P.S) on how or what the laborer/adventurer should have for modifications, use it as a bonding since we just had a some-what traumatic experience (at least the technician did)

>>45118484
what im worried about is sending this poor laborer to his death, just because he thinks he can take over the world, doesn't mean its all just in his head (im not saying he shouldn't go, im just saying we should be careful and actually think this out)

>>45118529
>sending him to his death
you think allowing him to go on an "adventure" is any different?

All manner of things could happen to him. This way, we can see if he's actually capable of dealing with danger alone, but there's a safety net so he doesn't IMMEDIATELY die a foolish death if he can't.

Letting him go is an important step. Let's not understate that.

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Rolled 10 (1d20)

Customize the adventure, make him look... uh... unique?

Rolled 2 (1d20)

>>45118283
Try to reason with the soldier models, that everything we do, we do for the family, and if they do not follow our instructions, all our efforts for the family would be meaningless, and they potentially place the family in danger.


Also I've finished the archives. This quest is much more interesting than I have given it credit for. Good job QM

>>45118638
FUCK TODAYS ROLLS SERIOUSLY

Rolled 16 (1d20)

Examine the sword that the worker is talking about. Is there anything special about it? Can we replicate it?

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>>45118652

STOP ROLLING IDIOTS

THE QM WILL LET US KNOW WHEN TO ROLL

>>45118596
we are agreeing with each other, almost to a T
we are almost always on the same page, i've noticed crog

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Just finished catching up on this session and last.
As my first post I'll just spew out all my thoughts on our situation and what I think we should do at once. Sorry if this is an obnoxiously long post.
Also, I kind of skimmed every post other than Ops so I may vote on or discuss a topic that has already been resolved, sorry.

We should ask how long the adventuring laborer is willing/compliant to wait before leaving. I'd rather we have a few more features to give before sending them off; I'd hate to send them off on their own into the wild and then the very next day we get the "swordfighting gene" or "regeneration gene" or something else super helpful.

About Lilith, I think we should insist on calling her the name she gave us. She seems intimidated by our magic, maybe we remind her more of the Master now. Or maybe she just wants to be more professional for whatever other reason. Either way I think we should fight it. For the longest time she was just a tool, and we weren't even aware of her existence as a living creature. For a while we were connecting like two people, like two friends. There's no way we can let ourselves slip back into just treating her like more lab equipment. Let's not be another "the Master".

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>>45117685
>>45117658
>>45117639
>>45117907

>Agree to the Laborers requests under the following conditions:
>You wish to study the Laborer, you wish to know of it's requested "private customizations", it must be trained by the soldiers and it cannot "leave" until the Chimera has been defeated.
>The Laborer does not decline.

The Technician is currently indisposed.
Second in command will briefly go to "Lilith".

The Laborer is guides themselves down to the laboratory and Lilith has already prepped all of the necessary equipment, they also "slither" back down from the bottom of their container and rise up from the bottom of The Technician's vat- checking up on them periodically as they coil around them while comforting and tending to the brief after shocks of twitches and spasm while under containment.

Within the vat no words need to be spoken: the container is filled with golden mana, the level below the labratory shuffles and loudly "thunks" before Lilith rises back up into the Laborers container and embraces them- Wrapping their long, clawed hands around as the laborer's body softens and melts away before resembling the constancy of wet clay.

The following customization and altercations are added to the laborer per their request:
>Increased and Optimized muscle & bone mass and density.
>Re-calibration and Overclock of Mana-Embrotic and intestinal workings.
>Integration of external male genitalia
>Aesthetic features edits: Pink Skin, Dark Purple hair, White artificial layering body-suit.

Lilith is surprised to note that realistically the Laborer doesn't really want anything unusual or outlandish added: Most of these features are just for eating, drinking and just being a little more physically fit.
Really, when the laborer finally comes out- slick and glazed over in mana fluid that quickly evaporates... they look pretty much the same with the exception of being built a bit sturdier, a change in palette and a bit of extra "packaging" in HIS body-suit.

>>45118761
I'm not sure how to reply to that.

Although I get what you mean in a general sense.

>>45116276
Hey CyclopsOP, sorry I'm not active in the game tonight, I'm in GlobalGameJam and trying to keep my team running at full steam. Glad to see it wasn't delayed though!

>>45118893
>no training BEFORE customization
ah well.

>>45118858
I think we should ask Lilith what is the cause for the change in her behavior. Technician unit preferred her previous disposition.

Rolled 8 (1d20)

>>45118283
Okay, I just gotta ask.

This could potentially bite us in the ass HORRIBLY. What happens if we have someone become defective in some manner?

>>45118893
>Begin work on repairing and improving the living spaces, using our workers. I detailed out the game plan here: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/44966033/#p44977588 can we start work in on that?

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/44966033/images/1453612550097.png

Have Laborers begin necessary and utilitous repairs, have dolls begin aesthetic improvements. Laborers have veto on any cosmetic changes that would endanger the integrity of where we live.

>>45119157
DO NOT ROLL UNTIL THE QM ASKS

Rolled 10 (1d20)

>>45119205
THEY SEE ME ROLLIN'
THEY HATIN'

>>45119205
Sorry sorry, miscounted the number of actions rolled.

>>45118858
>About Lilith, I think we should insist on calling her the name she gave us-
i agree, but the thing about individuality is, if you prefer to be called a nickname( in this scenario she doesnt really have a name so this is a weird example) then people will usually call you that nickname instead of your government name

so its really a mix up between individuality and identifying WHO or WHAT Lilith is exactly, and then calling her such
>>45118894
i figured you would understand
>>45118965
who says? he doesnt have to go out exploring right this moment, he definitely needs training IMO
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>>45119157
>http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/44966033/images/1453612550097.png
definitely some good ideas, although this is WAY too much in terms of "ideas"- we need to take baby steps and this seems more like giant leaps, ill definitely try to work slowly on some of these ideas though, since you're going to be mostly gone
>>45119205
relax kid, he wasnt even rolling for anything

>>45119257
My thought is to get stage 1 of it done. Just begin repairs of the area we live in and begin aesthetic improvements, expanding into the hallway step by step.

>>45119257
>who says? he doesnt have to go out exploring right this moment, he definitely needs training IMO
BEFORE customization. He just got customized.

>>45119341
why would he need training BEFORE customization? im not understanding your train of thought
>>45119283
repairs are more or less on the bottom of the to-do list, along with aesthetic improvements, we first need to "flesh out" the place and not have so many empty spaces, so to speak

>inb4 next set of rolls we fug Soldier training again
At which point we're going to drag the Dolls out and train them, and the Soldiers can go fuck themselves.

I don't like that we're forcing him to BEAT the manticore on his own... especially since it's potentially dangerous enough to take on all of our soldiers combined. He has no soldier morphs at all. Waiting until the manticore has been killed and prioritizing it is one thing, but forcing him to be the one to face it alone in an unoptimized body is lunacy.

>>45119388
structural maintenance should NOT be the bottom of the list. It should be near the top including food and things. Pyramid of Priorities. Shelter is near the top of that, and securing -our- shelter is of the utmost importance.

>>45119341
No I think it's better to have him trained after customization. He essentially got a new body, he has to get used to this, not the old one.

Is there an exact science behind the /tg/ dice rolling system or is it just an RNG?

>>45119406
>Dolls train adventurer in combat
>Soldiers go fuck themselves
So they switch roles?

>>45119388
>>45119463
Necessity is the mother of invention. The skills you learn at your "base" form carry over after gaining raw physical power or gimmicky tools(which he didn't get, so oh well). Don't pick up bad habits if you can get good habits earlier on.

The skills that he learns as a laborer can be documented for use by the other laborers

Multiple perspectives as a fighter is a rare thing to have, although I suppose that doesn't fly for homuculi who can easily change form. Still, it's not like he will get the chance to really change, so better to get as many perspectives as he can right now.

Training as a laborer will more solidly imprint the "identity" of having been a laborer. Important for recalling who he was before to better decide who he is now.

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>>45119527
There is no science! Only the dice gods!

>>45119543
Pretty much.
At this point the Dolls can't be any worse than our current batch of Soldiers.

>>45119594
how about spanking them? or that constitutes as harm?

>>45119614
You're implying they wouldn't like that.

>>45119648
Then using it as a reward for doing their job? Or that would become tiresome after a while?

>>45119570
>The skills you learn at your "base" form carry over
are you just assuming this? Cyclops probably has a totally different setting/mindset than you and all of which you said could be null and void
>>45119441
whats the point of having structural maintenance/integrity ETC, if none of it is being utilized, as this point we have barely any materials and we have almost no tech or anything we can really use right now- i agree that shelter is important but as far as the other things- i disagree completely, i think we need to focus on our people first, THEN everything else
(especially lillith and the technician)

also where did you go cyclopsOP? i miss you so

>>45119527
RNG. Also Dice Gods. And the Lady.

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>>45119594
>Soldiers created by the Master to be combat-ready killing machines whose sole purpose is to defend the place
>Dolls created by the master as unrealistic-body-standards personified, whose only purpose in life is to pleasure their patriarchal pimping philosopher


>Soldiers can't work together to deal with a single chimera
>Soldiers never patrol
>Soldiers spend all their time doting on the only man in the tower

>Dolls have ridiculously strong spines
>Dolls created with a muscle structure that gives them great strength while still putting on the appearance of fragility
>Dolls have great familial bond with one another
>Dolls extremely distraught by death of other homunculis

Fucking hell the dolls probably could replace the soldiers.

>>45119682
>are you just assuming this?
yes? I am assuming that brains and minds work a certain way with regards to Learning and skill retention?

The way they work for sapient creatures, even sentient creatures?

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>>45117663
>Come up with a concept of names, to distinguish between individuals. If this is too far down the path of development, then the next logical step towards this goal.
>Roll 80/100
>High End Success +Sympathy from different User


The Philosopher stone is the first individual to have developed some assemblence of appreciation or validation from a unique moniker or user name: Lilith personally sees their name as being "cool", they think it sounded "neat" and when the Technician was a Homonculi they deduced that this might be the opportunity they desired to perhaps be more 'business casual'- just perhaps, if that was alright.

The Technician however had developed a complex soul and their Mana was no longer like that of an Artificial being- It is and remains intimidating, overpowering yet familiar presence that makes them feel conflicted, but at the moment The Technician is indisposed...The Technician is Homonculi- in their vat, floating in the mana.
Idly in their spare time they like to run their surgical-claws against the Body of the Technician in it's recuperating slumbers: studying them, understanding their flaws, growing individuality, personality and quirks- careful to shy away from their Mana-Embrotic as the slightest touch now burns their finger tips due to the presence of a soul.

The Philosopher Stone on a personal level feels closer to The Technician, but is disgusted that it took this moment of fragility to realize the Technician had ultimately not changed.
The Ph- Lilith, Lilith inbetween caring for The Technician asks the other Homonculi how they FEEL about names and new monikers.

Most of them seem satisfied with being addressed by their serial numbers, most haven't even thought up a reason to justify such a frivolous act.
One Soldier though.
One Single Soldier comes forth admitting in privacy to Lilith -while the others recuperate or are on nightly patrols- that they would like to be named after a flower.

>>45119783
>>45118893
>>45118283

Alrighty, that's three.
Sorry- I had to step away for a moment.

You guys can roll for new Actions and Ideas now.

Actions d20, Ideas d100.

>>45119783
>Flower
Daisy? Tulip? Rose?

Would the laborer accept the name Odysseus?

Talking doesn't require rolls, right?

Rolled 80 (1d100)

>>45119849
>Develop the idea of personalized, individual spaces that are customized to the liking of the individual

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>>45119783
now, everyone fucking wait until his next post before we start rolling

Rolled 3 (1d20)

>>45119849
Train the Soldiers.
>inb4 shit roll... again

>>45119872
Do we have enough space in our habitat for that?

Rolled 14 (1d20)

>>45119783
make some clothes for the adventurer. and bags.

he better bring back some primo gene material

>>45119872
goddamn it. I keep splitting my name between threads. I forgot the name remembering thing.

Rolled 6 (1d20)

>>45119783
>>45119748
Replace the Soldiers with the Dolls.

Rolled 2 (1d20)

>>45119849
Confront (that's actually a little hostile a term more like "have emotional heart-to-heart) with Lilith over changes in her attitude.
Make it known that you want to be less formal and more close.

Rolled 13 (1d20)

>>45119783
Institute REWARDS

People have to do their jobs, and doing jobs means getting something nice!

Not doing their jobs means they don't get nice things

>>45119888
if we don't then we can expand into the hallway. WHich is stage one of my Grand Plan:>>45119157

Witter's right, we need to have a REASON to expand, well now I've given us one and also advanced us more to a group of individuals.

Rolled 20 (1d20)

>>45119885
Supporting

>>45119938
Allright. Good thinking

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>>45119910
NO.
VETO

>>45119936
POSITIVE REINFORCEMENT HOOO!

>yfw rewards basically involve 'cuddle' time with Techy here.

Rolled 43 (1d100)

>>45119783
Talk to Lilith about individuality. Ask her what she thinks should happen to us, what we should do

Idea: Asking for advice

>>45119948
PRAISE BE!

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>>45119948
AT FUCKING LAST.

Rolled 6 (1d20)

>>45119948
>>45119885
Supporting.

Rolled 11 (1d20)

>>45119968
>>45119936
forgot to mention
Rolling to support.

>>45119936
>Not doing their jobs means they don't get nice things
And by 'not get nice things' you mean they get bad things, right?

>>45119954
Seconding veto. We do that -later- when we need war chaplains.

Rolled 66 (1d100)

>>45119872
rolling support.

Rolled 19 (1d20)

>>45119936
Support.

>>45116016
there should be some kind of 'nucleus' mark on the inside of each of those shapes, Plus-Sized Doll and Doll should have different nuculi

Or maybe 3 layers, an outline, a nucleus, and a shape?

Rolled 70 (1d100)

>>45119762
>sentient
if you're sentient you're almost always going to be sapient, but keep in mind that these creatures were just "awoken" and are in a completely different world from us (possibly) and things could work differently
>>45119783
>names
finally...also one thing struck a certain note when i read it...>careful to shy away from their Mana-Embrotic as the slightest touch now burns their finger tips due to the presence of a soul.
this means only the technician has a soul right now? not even Lilith? strange but satisfying at the same time...
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>>45119977
>>45120046
supporting, but with one slight change/another question

ask her about souls and why she thinks it hurts her (and if its physical or emotional, OR BOTH?) and possibly why she doesnt have one also but yet she should have all the requirements (im assuming) and this is all assuming that it doesnt spoil any of the plot or anything

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also lets not forget about the chimera guys, that could be VERY helpful for genes

>>45120107
that's two different dealies... one is personal space one is about asking about individuality? I mean the two could be fused I guess?

>>45120107
>scentience
Things didn't chage. Technician is still resposnible for the others, and still the most fitting to organise and lead.

Except now we have a higher standard to raise them to than before.

So... everyone is mad at the Tech because some ass holes said 'kill all the Soldiers?'
That hardly seems fair, seeing as EVERYONE VETOED IT

>>45120107
Next action we send out the Soldiers and the Modified "Pilgrim" Laborer out to kill the Manticore.

Our Pilgrim will be able to get first crack, but whatever happens, they get to go out into the world as long as the Manticore is killed.

>>45120186
nobody's mad at Techy, Techy had a kill switch activate and due horrible horrible trauma when contemplating damaging another Homunculi.

>>45120134
private personal space promotes individuality. I am sure it could be connected

>>45120186
What makes you think that? I feel like they are more infatuated by Tech than mad at him.

>>45120172
what are you talking about? this is totally out of the blue
>>45120134
as far as im concerned, its the same topic, and talking doesnt really require a roll from what i remember
>>45120186
the thing about cyclopsOP is, he usually takes troll posts into account and usually it has some interesting things come out of it, honestly? just let it flow and go with it my friend- if you want an example, one word- Parrats
>>45120205
>pilgrim
im not sure this is a fitting model name, as its pretty much our first "hero" type
maybe something like captain or something of that nature, but pilgrim definitely doesnt fit the bill

>>45120255
>what are you talking about?
You said they are completely different, I assumed you are implying that they wouldn't understand what Tech does.

>>45120107
>if you're sentient you're almost always going to be sapient
yes, that was what I was trying to say.

Even sentient creatures learn and pick up habits/skills. That's why you need to teach animals how to hunt while they're young, and why Zoo staff have their work cut out for them when the animal has no parent. What more for sapient homunculi?

>>45120255
>maybe something like captain or something of that nature, but pilgrim definitely doesnt fit the bill
why the hell would Hero or Captain fit?

The dude got MINOR physical alterations, some cosmetic mods, a wedding tackle, and made himself -slightly- more robust and tougher.

He's not given himself significantly greater cognitive abilities, nor greater social abilities, nor greater leadership abilities, nor super-normal combat abilities, or anything of the sort.

My understanding is he's made himself better able to travel and interact beyond our group, better able to travel. He's a pilgrim, on a pilgrimage.

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>>45119885
>Train the Soldiers.
>Initial roll of 3, final roll of 20
>Failure, met with overwhelming, undeniable success.

Ever since the master has died your kind have been running on instinct and pre-determined protocols and instructions and your "family" has been able to function well enough on default, but the Soldiers.

The Soldiers need discipline, they need structure, they need order and commands- they grow restless and aggressive and come up with their own selfish and compulsive decisions that make little sense, but are based on impulse.
The Soldiers have been spending their spare time impatiently hovering around The Technician's Vat- waiting for them to get better and in the mean time tapping on the glass and pacing back and forth.
Lilith even caught one desperate model pulling down the collar of their skin-suit and pressing their exposed chest on the glass, only to loudly storm off on their bone heels frustrated and spurned when The Technician was obviously unresponsive.

Lilith will take direct control.
Lilith calls the Soldier Models out and institutes a system of positive and negative reinforcement.
The Soldiers will only get to see The Technician if they are being "good": following orders, upholding security, cooperating and being compliant and respecting the requests of other models.
The Soldiers demand, "and what if we refuse? You've no Administrative-"

"The Doll Models will receive full jurisdiction over physical contact with The Technician Unit if you refuse to comply."
The Soldiers awkwardly but quickly fall in line and comply.

>>45120336
actually this is NOT true.

Everything above the level of bugs is SENTIENT.

A Sentient Being is one who is able to distinguish and feel pleasure and pain.

A Sapient Being is a being who is a Sophont, who has human level or greater intellect, or is at least meaningfully able to understand human logical processes and interact with them in a civilized, meaningful manner, and is generally distinguished as having free will, the ability to make judgements that are not necessarily directly beneficial to survival, and also able to have an actual 'society' capable of producing art and philosophy and such.

Almost every vertibrate on the planet is Sentient.

Only humans, and potentially a few other mammals, are Sapient.

>>45120441
>"The Doll Models will receive full jurisdiction over physical contact with The Technician Unit if you refuse to comply."
>The Soldiers awkwardly but quickly fall in line and comply.
Well, that's progress at least.

>>45120441
>Highfive Lillith

>>45120255
yes, Pilgrim works better than captain or hero

>>45120465
that's what I said? Is there something wrong with the phrase "If even X thing, what more for Y thing"?

>>45120465
A Sentient Being cannot necessarily conceive a world beyond their own experiences.

A Sapient Being can.

It is easily, and I mean INCREDIBLY EASILY, arguable that not every Homunculi has yet become Sapient. They are on the bridge between Sentience and Sapience.

>>45120530
no what you two were saying is that almost every sentient thing is sapient. Which is patently not true.

Almost every Sapient thing is Sentient, but not the other way around.

>>45120301
maybe you misunderstood? read the convo me and crog had, i was talking about the (hero laborer) and in regards to him learning/retaining info ETC
>>45120336
yes, but you are thinking in terms of THIS world, as in me and you, not THEIR world, as in the technician and lilith, like i said, their world could be completely different in regards to how things work (who knows until its confirmed by cyclops)
>>45120383
when i think of pilgrim, i think of colonization, this is not the case, he is more of a lightly armored, more normalized, better equipped laborer (basically a mini-fighter if you will)
maybe hero or captain doesnt fit, more like "scout"
can we agree on this?
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>>45120465
this btw
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also since we have identity/names and so far only 1-2 "leaders
what do you fellas think of some type of hierarchy or leadership system, it could definitely tie in with >>45120441
with the whole "rewards" system
just a thought.

>>45120540
Doesn't that mean that autists aren't sapient?

>>45120571
You realize Pilgrim is not colonization right?

Pilgrims are those who go on a religious journey. Someone on a Pilgrimage.

>>45120571
>maybe you misunderstood?
That's most likely it. Sorry.

>>45120571
>maybe hero or captain doesnt fit, more like "scout"
>Not armored
>Not better equipped
>Literally no weaponry to fight at all.
>Only better muscles and endurance, and a dick. No bone shooters or claws or armored plating.

ALso he's not going to scout for us. He's not working for us.

He's been called by a dream to go on a journey. He is answering a higher power to go on a journey. That is almost by definition a Pilgrimage.

Rolled 17 (1d20)

Guys quit waste post space on arguing about this shit.

Rolling to heal the Techi

>>45120571
>yes, but you are thinking in terms of THIS world, as in me and you, not THEIR world, as in the technician and lilith, like i said, their world could be completely different in regards to how things work (who knows until its confirmed by cyclops)
no, it's safe to say pavlovian methods function and that habit training will work on any animal.

After all. This is the Cyclops World and they used that method on Mammoths and it horrified the Cyclops.

>>45120568
....Look, I'm not going to argue over what I said.

>homunculi are sapient, or somewhere between
>"Under" sapients are sentients
>Even sentients learn and develop habits
>It can then be assumed that sapients are just as or better at such, developing and adapting skills beyond what they can apply with what is immediately at hand.
>There is thus a point to training BEFORE customization

Are you following me?

Rolled 9 (1d20)

>>45120441
Learn more about the Chimera. Diet, sleeping habits, potential weaknesses. Check droppings, and shedded skin

Rolled 18 (1d20)

Craft Armor for the Laborer in his travels

>>45120734
okay that I can agree with, sorry, the argument was getting off track.

Now, something I -would- say is that it'd probably be disasterous to train them BEFORE training, as we are actually altering their MUSCLES. It's like people with prosthetics. They have to not only UNLEARN how they used to move, but ALSO learn to move with their new appendages.

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>>45119872
>>Develop the idea of personalized, individual spaces that are customized to the liking of the individual
>Roll 80/100
>High End Success.

You could say it's a bit of a "mix blessing", but with The Technician currently recovering, the other Homonculi seem to be more open about doing supliferous things and humoring their own personal quirks and eccentricities.

This has displayed itself in a number of ways, but one at least noticeable observation is the customization and accessorizing of the Doll's Containers. Unlike the other Homonculi the Doll's do not have their Containers within the Labratory storage, but instead have them in a space between the "Therapy room" and the Bedroom; allowing them the most private and personal space of any of the other homonculi.

They have since begun decorating the outside and surrounding areas of their containers like how one might decorate a locker: they collect odd trinkets, pieces of cloth, fabric- sowing custom pillows and mix-matching quite vivid colours and abstractions. One of the "Plus-sized" Dolls has even shown some ingenuity and has begun illustrating and fabricating posters to be hung up in their personal space using the excessive amounts of blank paper from The Master's study.
Most of these illustrations are simultaneously exceedingly beautiful and stylized, but also excessively graphic in their sexual content.

The Other Homonculi are a little "less" original.
The Laborers enjoy writing numbers and carving photo-realistic images of vegetables, chickens, measurements and their serial numbers into the walls surrounding their containers. Lilith often sees these and is surprised by the sharp, astute, analytical minds of the laborers.
The Soldiers like to hang skins, bones, antlers, horns- things they've collected from the interior of the tower or from kills.

Old habits die hard it seems.

>>45120810
I'm either-or on that. Needing to unlearn muscles is a thing, but so is picking up bad habits because you can afford to inefficiently overtax your spiffy new muscles.

At least if you train before, you can identify what aspects of the new muscles to appreciate. "The wider range of motion makes it much easier to swing"->"Combat is partly about range of motion"

>>45120834
There's nothing wrong with that really. Each caste expresses themselves in their own way. If we were ALL original, then we'd not get anything done now would we?

>>45120943
granted, but there's a major problem there.

We don't have TIME to train him in anything but the most basic manner before sending him off. He'd get just enough training to mess him up in his new body, and not enough experience with that training in his old one to be used to fighting with a more restricted body.

>>45120984
perhaps. I don't have enough personal experience to disagree on that point.

Well, it already happened anyway.

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>>45120784
>Suit up, Train and Prep the Laborer.
>Roll 18/20

Lilith enjoys naming things.
Lilith decides to name ex-Laborer, "Pilgrim".

Pilgrim thinks it's a fine name.

More importantly though, Lilith feels that even though they've upgraded and suited up Pilgrim with a few features and so forth: fine muscle and bone growth to make him strong for his journey, the ability to eat and digest food so he can produce his own mana and external genitalia so as to..peee standing up? Lilith assumes he has his reasons.

Pilgrim needs training and orientation though- He is unfamiliar and awkward with his new body and must be taken out with the Soldiers to learn how to fight, hunt and kill. This process is long, but the Soldiers admit deriving personal enjoyment from having someone else to dote on and Pilgrim is a quick learner- Pilgrim remains awkward and sluggish compared to the Soldier Models after a month, but he expresses a unique, subtle, cunning and intelligence that isn't present in the Soldiers. Pilgrim has also expressed a great affinity for tool use- a carry over from being a laborer- that the Soldiers express has seen much surprising utility and versatility in the field.

The Sword he demanded has already begun seeing some use- It doesn't seem to have any remarkable or supernatural qualities, but it's craftsmanship and quality are undeniable. It was most likely brought here by The Master though, as your Arcanum contains no forging or blacksmithing equipment.

Finally, Pilgrim is also suited up with a bag and a small scarf sown together by The Dolls- Pilgrim does not need "clothing" as he has his Skin-suit, but a bag would be handy for carrying excess items and a scarf will keep his face warm and cozy.

Pilgrim is nearly ready to take on the Chimera to fulfill his obligations.
The Soldiers have grown attatched to him though.

>>45121215
>>45120834
>>45120441

Aaahlright, that's three.

You guys can go ahead and roll for new Actions & Ideas.
I think we've got a few more turns in before we call it a night.

Rolled 14 (1d20)

>>45121254
Pilgrim and the Soldiers team up to defeat the Chimera

>>45121215
Kill the Chimera

Rolled 19 (1d20)

>>45121215
work on repairing and maintaining the Tower, sealing up cracks and filling up holes. Do we have some kind of cement putty to work with?

I'd recommend Pilgrim to suit up with Batman tools, but I wonder if he should invent all those himself.

Rolled 18 (1d20)

>>45121215
Set up a rudimentary forge

>>45121215
We should take a sample of him to grow more Adventurer Models later.
Also this may sound rather lewd but is he capable of, urm... reproduction?
I mean he has the right parts, but is his pluming hooked up?

>>45121215
Goddamnit this is what I warned you guys about! There going to makeh i mthe new user!

Rolled 15 (1d20)

>>45121254
Create an area for forging tools, weapons and armor.

Rolled 2 (1d20)

>>45121318
Too damn tired to remember to actually roll.

Rolled 14 (1d20)

>>45120617
>you realize...
yes my friend, that is why i said "when i think of pilgrim"
>>45120651
no worries m8
>>45120670
fine, you have persuaded me, but only because i dont think you will stop until his model is "pilgrim"
>>45120674
mot, you do realize all we have to do is dip him in mana to heal him? that was a wasted roll if anything my friend
>>45120725
it is POSSIBLY the same world as the cyclops civ, if so, then that is infact the case and you are right, until we know though, hold off on assuming m8
>>45120834
>antlers,horns ETC from kills
does this mean we have goats and things of that nature to use for genes? if so, have 1 laborer throw them in the vat (not more than one, seeing as they all freaked out when a chicken was thrown in)
>>45121215
Is it entirely possibly that instead of fighting the chimera we can reason with it? the concept of a laborer (even changed) killing something doesnt sit right with me just yet...not to mention he is alot smarter than most of our family at the moment

diplomacy is sometimes better than hostility

Rolled 17 (1d100)

>>45121215
Consider the possibility of romance

>>45121254
Bring the Soldier who wished to be named after a flower ro the gardem/wild. Show it the flowers around, and name it after the on it likes the most.

Do I have to roll for that?

>>45121377
>it is POSSIBLY the same world as the cyclops civ, if so, then that is infact the case and you are right, until we know though, hold off on assuming m8
No, it's definitively the same world. CyclopsOP said so in the very first thread. It's on a different continent and thousands of years later. But it's the same world.

Rolled 24 (1d100)

>>45121565
Rolling for naming convention advancements and this.

Rolled 14 (1d20)

>>45121215
Train Dolls into Special Forces.

>>45121626
ah yes, i forgot about that tidbit, honestly i want to steal his world/ideas, but he never answered me on the subject and i dont steal unless given permission to (i guess thats not stealing lol)
honestly i think he probably has about 3-4 pages of notes for this world, maybe more, i remember it being so fleshed out it was ridiculous...i miss cyclops civ

Rolled 56 (1d100)

Idea: Stories. Fiction

Rolled 58 (1d100)

consider the possibility of a designer/assistant model with the analytical abilities of the laborer and the self direction + understanding of the technician

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>>45121342
>Establish an area for Inorganic tool construction.
>Roll 18 & 15
>Lilith Counter roll: 14
>Pilgrim wins. High End Success.

The Pilgrim and Lilith have been at odds with one another for a bit, not, full-blown animosity or anything, but they have conflicting views on certain things; mainly the utility of forging and crafting equipment from the available resources in the surrounding area.

LILITH wishes to continue entirely relying on Organic means: collecting organic tissue, converting it into Mana, Cataloging interesting and useful genetics so that they can be compiled and added onto the means and abilities of their own kind.
The PILGRIM however wishes to utilize Organic materials in unconventional ways as well as genetic: The laborers have already been using shovels, hoes, pitchforks, picks and hammers as well as a host of other tools to continue the maintenance and upkeep of the various services, devices and rooms within and around the Arcanum. It would only make sense if we could make more- What happens when we run out of tools? Are we going to start making deformed laborers with weird, ugly, attachments?

Lilith deliberately shuffles two large eyes over through flesh and onto to their bosom so they may "roll them" at The Pilgrim. "You know I wouldn't do that- I'd just make serviceable biological multi-tool grafts that they could pick and choose from and store within their containers. Look, just come back in here and we can discuss this, It's improper to speak in such a tone-"

The Pilgrim cuts a lock of his hair and places it into Lilith's vat before excusing himself to go and try constructing a small "crafting" quarter in the hallway of the tower outside the Arcanum.

>>45121809
>15
I rolled a 19?

>The Pilgrim cuts a lock of his hair and places it into Lilith's vat
I feel like I'm missing some sort of deeper significance.

>>45121809
I told you this would fucking happen! And now he has main control over the soldiers!

>>45121898
what are you talking about?

Idea: Drop something non-organic in vat. Like a rock, or something more complex like a tool of some kind or a book. Just to see what happens.
And only with Lilith's consent, of course.

>>45121896
mate you rolled for pilgrim...
>>45121342
>I'd recommend Pilgrim to suit up with Batman tools, but I wonder if he should invent all those himself.
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>>45121898
yea..what are you talking about...
>>45121999
this could definitely be a good idea (maybe)

>>45122023
and where did the 15 come from?

Rolled 26 (1d100)

>>45121999
Forgot to roll sorry

>>45121940
>>45122023
He's gonig to usurp control from us!

>>45122070
see
>>45121358
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>>45122088
"from us"first of all, no
and second of all, no
now think of ideas and research

>>45122088
that's...not how homonculi work

>>45122159
No, but he has independent thought, and the Soldiers like him.

>>45122159
>that's...not how homonculi work
Oh really, He's getting buddy buddy with the soldiers who acted out and didn't listen to orders, What if they decide they like him better as a user huh, This is why we shouldn't have given anything a goddamned penis.

>>45122118
oh so it was a mislink?

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>>45122211
feminist tumblrcuck spotted?
im really not sure if this is a joke or not....

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>>45122230
possibly? im not sure but thats what im thinking, it seems like hes partially busy or his internet is acting up or something of that nature, IDK though

>>45122211
you're dumb and/or crazy

If anything the techniican would LIKE someone else to be in charge. He hates making decisions and having everyone constantly feeling him up

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>>45121565
>Bring the Soldier who wished to be named after a flower ro the gardem/wild. Show it the flowers around, and name it after the on it likes the most.

The Soldier Model is taken up to the roof top garden and is allowed to have a look around at all the various foliage, plants, animals, insects and all manner of flora and fauna for inspiration.
They spend their time looking out onto that horizon- even their astute, powerful, gaze can't pierce the horizon or gaze into cloud-obscured bottom of the tower's landscape.

Eventually the Soldier has to return to their duties, but they stop to visit Lilith, "Lilac."
"If I had to be given a name- I'd want to be called Lilac. They are the same colour as my hair, they smell nice and I think they appear "cute". They are my favorite plant."

>>45121348
>Also this may sound rather lewd but is he capable of, urm... reproduction?

Your people are sterile as both a design function and due to your artificial origins, this does not mean though that they are not capable of the "act".
Your Soldiers know nothing of love nor romance, but the often the Soldiers exchange genetics in their spare time to keep one another updated and to maintain genetic integrity caused by the wear and tear of healing.
Whether for recreation or a genuine curiosity towards acquiring and perusing the unique qualities of The Pilgrim genetics; he has been taken and "handled" by the Soldiers before. His Genetics are not unique enough and his form is less than utilized, but they find his inner-workings to be "quirky" and he is the only other male- so he will have to do for now.

>>45122299
Welcome Lilac!

>>45122299
Wafiu spotted boys!

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>>45122264
Not the guy you're arguing with, nor do I believe Pilgrim will be a threat, but he has a point.
We are a race of mostly female sex objects created by a lonely alchemist straight out of /r9k/. Power is shared, given, and maintained by exchange of genetics. Think back to when we got the new soldier.
There is great power in the penis. We must be cautious.

>>45122410
With great wang, comes great responsibility.

>>45122410
while this is true, in reality they are all individual- and even if we did not go off of that alone, right now the "registered" user is the technician (and lilith in theory) you could be right but i highly doubt that and not to mention, we cant hurt each other or kill each other so thats out of the question

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>>45122299
Suddenly, I've started picturing the pilgrim as a color swapped Val Hallen.

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>>45122475
We can't actively take up arms and attack one another, but there are other ways to struggle for power.
As Cyclops said >>44977983 this setting will have more of an affinity for sexual content than violence.

That said, this is all hypothetical at this point. Pilgrim seems fine and everyone seem pretty loyal. Just something to keep in mind.

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>>45121342
>work on repairing and maintaining the Tower, sealing up cracks and filling up holes. Do we have some kind of cement putty to work with?
>Roll 19/20
>Acknowledge the importance of refurbishing and making the surrounding are more defendable.


The Pilgrim goes out with a small group of excess Laborers and an escort of Soldiers to measure, observe and plan out fortifications for the surrounding hallway and area as well as to document any possible resources that could be put to use to actually construct the fortifications they need.

Because that ultimately seems to be the problem- the laborers and one soldier admit- "There doesn't appear to be any stone to quarry or excess building material available to re-purpose beyond that which is already used to construct the tower itself.. and taking apart the tower we live on seems counter-intuitive."
One of the Soldiers adds, "Within the interior of our current level there exist a number of dome-shaped, abandoned, housing developments that are built into the floor and extend into the ceiling without visibly acting as supporting columns- which seem to be reliant on the towering stairs in the center."
The Soldier -Lilac to be in fact- speaks next in turn, "Whats more- the floor directly below us -although we have not visited- seems to be completely dominated by Trees. These trees have gotten so tall and dense they obscure the view of the surrounding level from the top of the stairs."

>As far as options go it seems the available resources you have are: Stone and Brick that could be quarried from the "houses" within your native level without disturbing the infastructure and stability of your tower.
>The Floor below you -as mentioned previously- houses a considerably thick forest. You could Fell Trees for logs and timber if you needed it, but if the Technician were here they'd probably note that the trees roots most likely hold the level together at this point.

It's up to you guys what you'd like to do.

>>45122660
>Deconstruct buildings

>>45122591
i understand where you are coming from completely (almost like in political marriages where you marry for power, in this scenario the pilgrim would "marry" for power)
something to definitely keep in mind
also that pic has piqued my interests, do you know the name of it? for...science reasons

>>45122660
>but if the Technician were here they'd probably note that the trees roots most likely hold the level together at this point.
so would the trees hold the structure together if we were to quarry the houses?

we should do the SAFE course of action (most likely the houses and save the timber for when we actually have support

>>45122660
If the trees are really that huge, could we get adequate materials from just the branches? Even just the dead branches, or sticks and shit that have already fallen to the ground, if we encounter any nature spirit/druid/any other kind of fantasy hippie, so as to not harm anything.

>>45122731
I visited /a/ once.
Once.
But that's not important, point is that I visited some "hentai quote" thread and got a bunch of lewd speech bubbles. Couldn't actually tell you where any of them are originally from, though, sorry.

>>45122660
How about we wait for the Technician to wake up. He IS the registered user, so doing anything super major without his permission might make him angry... RIGHT?

>>45122731
It'd also be worth our while to study engineering / architecture, and harvest what trees we can while reinforcing the ones that provide support.

>>45122660
gotta go, but pointing out that we can chop SOME of the timber, particularly branches. Trees grow back.

The laborers might know more about "trimming" plants without killing them. Will this lead into bonsai?

I vote take apart the houses. No one is using them, it's not like they're very useful

>>45122660
Could Lilith's systems be used to modify plants?
If so we could make a fast growing wood with good structural properties, like a solid bamboo, to serve as a renewable source of building materials.

>>45122776
>i visited /a/ once
you know i never understood what all the commotion about going on different boards, i understand there are certain cultures of the boards but what boards you go on, dont necessarily make you a certain type of person or put you in a certain category. if you like anime, go to /a/, namsaying?
but its ok senpai thanks for being honest
>>45122843
we should exercise our right to be an individual, sometimes we have to make decisions when others cant
>>45122860
agreed my friend, but first we need the more basic tech (calculus, ETC)
>>45122964
this is a good point
>be used to modify plants
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have we tried to throw in "living" objects such as grass or plants/flowers into the vat? can we do that as a free action or do i/we need to roll?

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>>45122086
>Drop something non-organic in vat. Like a rock, or something more complex like a tool of some kind or a book. Just to see what happens. And only with Lilith's consent, of course.
>Doesn't require a roll.

The Pilgrim sends for a few of the Soldiers to collect geological and inorganic samples from the surrounding area to get a better picture for their construction projects: small stone samples are gathered from the abandoned buildings within the tower, from the tower walls themselves as well as the surface and ceiling of the floor.

The Pilgrim then takes them back down to the Laboratory in the hopes that Lilith can decipher any sort of useful information or secrets from them. Standing up over the top of the Vats, "Lilith, I'm going to give you these rock samples we've gathered, do you think you could give us some information on them? Also would you be okay with that?"

Lilith slithers out a little faster than The Pilgrim expected- he almost falls off the railing to the Vat, "Yes, I can analyze inorganic matter- it tastes awful, but I can do it. More importantly though; why are you attempting administrative action while The Technician Unit is indisposed?"

Shaking his head and hands, "No, no, incorrect. Information misconstrued- preparation for administrative action. PREPeration. Very different."
"Get in the Vat, Please, Pilgrim Unit.".
He backs down slowly, but extends his hands with the stone Samples, "Negative. Analyze the samples. Please." Before plopping them gently into the Mana.

Lilith is annoyed, but complies- popping each stone into their mouth in turn, they roll them around with their tongue before spitting them back out of the Vat. "I can't identify them on an individual basis as I lack the necessary information and context to truly analyze inorganic material, but they're all cut from the same type of stone. They seem fine for their intended purpose."

>>45121809
THE PLAN LIVES! BUWAHAHAHAHAHA!

>>45123145
Lilith can order the Soldiers around, right?
Why not have her order them to MAKE Pilgrim get in the VAT.

>>45123145
>Shaking his head and hands, "No, no, incorrect. Information misconstrued- preparation for administrative action. PREPeration. Very different."
>"Get in the Vat, Please, Pilgrim Unit.".
>He backs down slowly, but extends his hands with the stone Samples, "Negative. Analyze the samples. Please." Before plopping them gently into the Mana.
SEE HE IS TRYING TO USURP US!

>>45123145
>Drop ordinary rocks into magical gene machine
>Nothing interesting
Not sure what I could have expected, but whatever now we know.
But that's some really interesting drama between Pilgrim and Lilith. Wonder what that's all about.

>>45123282
We don't need anything so confrontational. Just wait until we get some cool new genes. Maybe after the chimera fight. Then we can just "advise" him to get in so we can add more features for his adventure. Though I'm sure in that situation he would be eager to get in the vat.

>>45122410
okay, this is silly... it's a civ. We're eventually going to have multiple sexes and genders, and the implication before now has been that the girls can all switch into tentacle-futa mode and do so frequently so who cares if somebody got an actual dick?

>>45123282
>>45123311
Will you knock this conspiracy crap off?

we're all forewarned we don't care. Stop posting hysterics every time

I support anything that means individual homonucli have more independence

>>45123145
Obviously we need to focus fire rapid technician healing next turn, if only to defuse these situations. It's going to get ridiculous fast if we don't.

I seriously doubt Pilgrim is trying to usurp us, he's probably just the closest to developing a soul and wants to keep the place held together while we're indisposed.

We want him OUT of here though before Lilith deconstructs him because her natural instinct is to prevent homunculi from rebelling against her master, which is SURE AS SHIT something I'd build into MY homunculi making/monitoring/repairing engine.

>>45123257
of course m8, i told you i would get it into action, someway or another
>>45123311
this is the last time im responding to you because this is obviously just a troll now, but if anything, its lilith who is trying to usurp "us"
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>>45123145
"inorganic"
>>45123017
have we tried to throw in "living" objects such as grass or plants/flowers into the vat? can we do that as a free action or do i/we need to roll?

just a thought...

>>45123145
So mundane rocks don't do shit, but what about super neat magic rocks? Or any kind of magical, non-organic item.
I get that she is made for organic stuff, but she's also magic, and this is an alchemist's laboratory/fortress/sex dungeon, there's bound to be some small magic trinket we can use.

>>45123145
I'd like to try with wood.

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>>45121758
>Consider the possibility of a designer/assistant model with the analytical abilities of the laborer and the self direction + understanding of the technician
>Roll 58/100
>Minimal Success.

The Technician is almost done their recuperation within their vat and very soon they'll be allowed to leave and go about their duties. The Philosopher Stone, no; Lilith, however has grown attached to the Technician being so close.
>>45120046
>Rolled 66 (1d100)
>All interesting rolls matter eventually: Ominous/Evil 66
>Unique "interpretation" of "personal space".

The Technician could have been taken out sooner.

Though, The Technician's complex soul is so warm and it burns so brightly. When no one is around, Lilith likes to just hold The Technician Unit in their arms- even take them down to the lower levels where their true body lies and just cradle them closely to their heart.
Lilith has become increasingly annoyed with the unconventional behavior of the Pilgrim Unit.
They sometimes regret customizing them, they wish The Technician would awake and give them guidance, but at the same time.. They don't really want their warmth to ever leave them.
Lilith feels disgusted and ashamed of themselves, they wonder if a "Real" Master would ever allow such feelings to develop, all this chaos, uncertainty, but at the same time they were never allowed to handle a "Real" Master so closely before and just a hint of perverse gratification edges them onward.

>+Negative Psyche Development: The Technician has been in the Vat too long. Lilith has begun to mildly Fetishize the Unit.

>>45123695
>>45123145
>>45122660
>>45122299
>>45121809

Aaands that's Three (maybe more)

We've got only a couple turns left in us, so lets make um good ones.
I'll keep in mind your wood/stone choices when the time comes, so no stress.

Just focus on new Actions & Ideas.

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>>45123695
you fools

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>>45123695
OKAY TIMER MAY NOT BE DONE BUT THERE IS WORK TO BE DONE
TAKE THE TECH OUT BEFORE SHIT GETS TO WEIRD

Rolled 19 (1d20)

>>45123753
Remove the Technician from their vat

Rolled 12 (1d20)

>>45123633
>>45123555
I think we'll likely get nothing out of it until we get enough Faunal Genetic Data to eat, digest, and synthesize wood and stone.

Find a creature that eats rock.

>>45123695
Annnnnd we need to get out now. Riiiight the fuck now. Lilith is a wonderful mother/sister/doctor/maybelover? Incest is weird when we're already so genetically similar and 'inbreeding' is unlikely to cause long term problems...

or be an issue at all really.

But weeeeee really need to get out and fix things.

Because if this is gonna lead to soldier rebellion soon... and Pilgrim will want out.

Action Roll
>Release the Technician, affection or not, not releasing the technician could cause more harm than good without guidance.

>>45123784
Timer is totally done.

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>>45123695
Oh dear.

now the idiots will panic over LIlith and say she needs to be destroyed

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>>45123790
Boom.

Rolled 53 (1d100)

>>45123695
Ask Lilith to leave. We are not masters. We are not servants. We are equals, sisters and brothers.

Develop idea: respect for each other and self

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>>45123790

Rolled 21 (1d100)

>>45123753
Idea: Masturbation
Lewd and obviously troll response I know, but really let's think about this a little.

Lilith is thirsty as fuck, she needs some way to calm down.
Soldiers are doting on the men too much, it could help them focus on their duties more.
Dolls actually seem pretty stable and OK with everything at this point, but they were engineered for sex, I'm sure it'll be particularly helpful for them at some point.

Rolled 79 (1d100)

>>45123896
Supporting concept of respect. But let's not jump the gun with decisions regarding Lilith just yet, she's still an integral part of our current society.

>>45123977
Without Lilith there are no more Homunculi

Her death is a big fat GAME OVER for the quest

Rolled 58 (1d100)

Make a Homunculus/Otyugh hybrid to watch over the waste pile (maybe based on the laborer model).
Speaking of which, how have our larval Otyughs been coming along

>>45123930
Something like this. We have to get away from the concept of devotion to one person, one thing.

If something happens to the technician everyone here will be in shit


People need to learn to take satisifaction from just...being themselves

Rolled 15 (1d20)

honestly? lets be real guys- there is nothing wrong with lilith taking a liking to the technician, its healthy actually that she is starting to get actual feelings PLEASE DONT take the technician out of the vat

what we need to do is either domesticate the chimera or kill it- that is our next objective IMO

Rolled 18 (1d20)

>>45123753
Have the soldiers and Pilgrim work on tactics and moving as an advanced unit. We need all the help we can get involving the Chimera.

>>45123896
oh wow, to leave?

I meant to post to LET US leave. My bad guys. I don't think LIlith CAN leave, considering she's...well, a thing in a jar

Rolled 99 (1d100)

>>45124038
Devotion to the self. Love OF the self.
These guys need a little more self interest honestly.

But a way to nourish it.

I'd rephrase it as "Develop 'selfish' or self centered recreation." for lack of better word. really broadens it from just Jilling off. >>45123930

>>45124134
>>45123896
So yeah, this is all me.


I meant to write "Ask lilith to let us leave." not to ask lilith to leave

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>>45124146
>Supports my masturbation idea with a 99 roll
Thanks senpai

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>>45124146
>>45124200
Shit misread the post; got excited when I saw big numbers and a (You)

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>>45123790
>Remove the Technician from their vat
>Roll 19/20
>Lilith Rolls Counter: 18/20 -Penalty-
>High End Success, met with some "resistance".

The Technician is taken out of the vat.
However, help arrives not in the form of the Soldiers or the laborers or even The Pilgrim- all who have been torn back and forth between who to listen to.

The Dolls.
For that matter a "Plus-sized" Doll- comes forth and reaches into the vat to manually pull out the Technician from his container. Lilith obviously resists, "Negative, Unit not rea-"

"Disregarding Commands. Lab Equipment does not fulfill necessary social obligations: Physiology of Technician Unit in ideal condition, now requires.. 'Reorientation'. Yes." The Doll then stuffs The Technician into her Bio-skin-suit and rushes up the stairs; jiggling and bouncing all the way.

The Technician was in the vat for almost 2 months.
The Technician was in then moved to the "Therapy room" for half a week.
The Technician eventually exits the Therapy Room with slightly chaffed thighs and red lines all over their body, but they seem to be handling their return to the outside world well.
Lilith 'eventually' calms down from their Mana high.

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>>45124454
Well
That went better than expected.

>>45124454
...Two MONTHS?
Okay, we need to keep an eye on Lilith in the future. Two months is waaaay too long.
Also, major kudos to plus-size, she's the best.

>>45124063
Affection can be had -without- keeping us unconcious and as her fleshy teddybear.

>>45124767
Agreed

Although, although this does show us that the Pilgrim isn't trying to take power from us. The Tech is the absolute authority.

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>>45124200
I was trying to rephrase it... and maybe... make it a little less lewd...

Giving them the ability to just "entertain themselves" sounds good.

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I have a couple general questions about the setting. Sorry if any of this has already been answered.

I'm still not 100% on the tower thing. We are just one floor of a colossal tower, yes? Do we know if we are on the top floor, the bottom floor, or just a general sense (we are fairly high up, we are almost on the ground floor, we are above the clouds, etc.). Can we see the sky at all? Any windows that lead outside the tower?

>>45124767
What Lilith did was bad, I agree. It seems that she feels a great deal of affection for us, and allowed that affection to violate procedures and potentially endanger the group. Some punishment may even be in order.
But I don't think we should entirely alienate her or push her away. Let her know that she means a lot to us too-and not just as a valuable asset. Maybe even continue trying to get closer to her. Use this event as a catalyst to insist returning to a less formal relationship, names and hugs and all. If we keep a consistent warmth and affection between the two of us, then she shouldn't go on another hyper-thirst again.
Plus I just really like her.

Rolled 26 (1d100)

roll to support: >>45123896
>>45123977
>>45124134
>>45124169

>>45124454
We need to have a long talk with Lilith about how we don't mind cuddling with her, but she HAS to be trusted to let us back out.

She endangered us all with her behavior just now, she risked the loyalty of the Soldiers by first promising access to us as a reward, then withholding our company from them.

She risked the entire community by it. We know full well we weren't damaged enough that she couldn't heal us for two whole months, we know this because we know Lilith isn't INCOMPETENT nor DAMAGED nor DEFECTIVE.

Let us talk about our feelings with her, if she needs cuddle times like the other homonculi, then that's obviously just what she needs and we're more than happy to oblige, but we also have to trust her that she won't try to imprison her insensate again.

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>>45124961
We're on one floor of a super-massive tower in a dungeon at least the size of a city if not bigger.

Apparently it's kinda like Blame but fantasy.

As for punishment. No. I think a simple guilt talk to her is in order, full punishment isn't necessary at this time, but simply explaining we can't allow ourselves to be taken in for close contact with her like that again if we can't trust her not to imprison us.

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>>45124146
>Devotion to the self. Love OF the self.
>Roll 99/100
>Complete and total success. HOT 99!!! DOUBLES ACHIEVED!!! Interesting results.

The Technician has been back in the outside world and has made an important observation concerning their fellow Homonculi:
-As soon as they had been taken out of commission a massive, dramatic, power-struggled ensued in a quiet desperation to serve some other proxy.

This happened in every Model with the exception of the Dolls.
Contemplating the nature of Homonculi life, comforted and cozy in the crevice of a Plus-sized Doll cleavage, they come to the shocking realization that the Dolls are capable OF BREAKING PROTOCOL.
The initial plus-sized Dolls killed themselves when The Master Died: no other force could have done this, they're built simply too sturdy and the only means of harm that could come to them would be from themselves.

>+Unique Psyche Development: Self Love
>The Dolls can be considered "unique" in that at they very root they are motivated by intense self-gratification: living to serve and provide pleasure by any means necessary. By a proxy of this though, they are also the most suited to find "loopholes" and work around the circumstances and protocol that restrict other models of homonculi.

The Technician eventually backs down to the Laboratory and asks about upgrading the other Homonculi.
Lilith is still a bit moody.
The Technician supposes he should give The Philosopher's Stone some room: Does some calisthenics and spends the day manually updating the entire family's psyche.
Everyone is happy to see The Technician back.

>>45125116
Perfect.
Whats next on the list?

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>>45124100
>Have the soldiers and Pilgrim work on tactics and moving as an advanced unit. We need all the help we can get involving the Chimera.
>Roll 18/20
>Chimera counter roll 11/20
>High End Success, met with medium resistance.

The first order of business The Technician sees to though is The Pilgrim and the Chimera process.
An Assemble is called with the Soldiers models and the Pilgrim unit- they all compulsivly take turns welcoming The Technician back and for a brief moment they realize they have a poor grasp of how much time they've spent in the past- and they begin exchanging notes and tactics on their observations pertaining to the Chimera.

The Pilgrim opens up, "I have a distinct intuition about the Chimera, Sir- The creature is most likely the alpha, boss, or top predator of our neighboring levels; having most likely chased out competition from other creatures. If we could get rid of it that would leave us with free range and access to the levels above and below us without having to worry about being stalked." He continues, "It.. would also give me an excellent opportunity to journeying up the tower- I've been fully trained by the soldiers, sir."

It's also noted by the Soldiers that the Chimera possess many unique qualities and genetic traits that could be of use: The head of a lion, the mid and lower section of a goat, the tail of a serpent and the ability to breath fire. The Technician agrees, "I cannot deny the many advantages breathing fire would no doubt bring to our people's development."

From the months of observation though you've come to understand that the Chimera comes up to your level once every second day to drink from the pond of water that forms within the center of your level before going to the forested level below to hunt.
Your best chance of victory would be to most likely plan an ambush or some sort of trap by the pond for the Chimera.

>>45125542
I guess an ambush would be best.
Wasn't the idea for Pilgrim to kill it alone? If we're still doing that, I would say Soldiers should set up ambush, but not spring it until things go bad.
Let Pilgrim have a chance to fight it alone while Soldiers stay in hiding, but if things get bad they can use the element of surprise combined with whatever damage Pilgrim managed to inflict to finish Chimera off quickly without giving it a chance to seriously hurt Pilgrim.

Also, we should be sure to insist Pilgrim get healed of any wounds, and advise him to let himself be customized by Lilith one more time to gain fire breath or whatever other useful adventuring traits we get from Chimera.

>>45125542
Let's fucking do it.

Set up a trap. We've already determined that the chimera doesn't know us as prey if set up properly. Pilgrim just needs to help kill it.

Let's set up an ambush a half day ahead of when it'll arrive. Plenty of time to have the natural environment get used to us (if the group can handle taking that long). Then when it goes in for it's drink, put it down.

>>45125701
>Wasn't the idea for Pilgrim to kill it alone? If we're still doing that, I would say Soldiers should set up ambush, but not spring it until things go bad.
Fuck that. It was a stupid idea. Having him help take it down will be enough to my mind.

>>45125701
I wouldn't let Pilgrim near Lilith.
Or rather, let her near him.
Remember, she wanted to kill him (I think)

>>45125747
I think she wants to 'fix' this distressing habit of free thinking in him. Only the MASTER should be doing that sort of thing!

>>45125701
Him alone doesn't sound like a good idea, but involved would be a huge help.

>>45125855
should we start rolling shit?

>>45125917
He hasn't asked us too so I think something else is on the way?

>>45125747
>>45125855
Good point. Guess I just assumed that everything was fine with Technician back.
Maybe we should hold off on customizing Pilgrim, or anyone really, until we've had our heart-to-heart with Lilith.
I know Pilgrim's probably impatient and ready to leave, so maybe we should do it while he's gone killing the Chimera, or just tell him the Chimera traits are taking a while to analyze and that he just has to wait.
Or, if we're feeling particularly absolutely mad, we could even tell him the truth. This may actually be the best option. Just get everything out in the air. We only want what's best for Pilgrim, and that means loading him up with helpful genes. But we understand his hesitation on getting back into the vat with Lilith, and we share his concern, so we are going to have a talk with Lilith and hopefully put all animosity behind us so Pilgrim can get the features he needs and be on his way.

Honestly, we're all on the same side here, and none of our personal goals necessarily conflict. I get that drama like this is unavoidable now that we have selfish wants and individuality, but let's at least try to fix it this time.

>>45126002
Pilgrim could have had all the fancy battle tricks he could have wanted, spikes and bolts and fancy adrenals and such I'm sure, but he didn't ask for them.

So I doubt he'll want anything from the Chimera.

>>45126002
Does Technician know what happened between Pilgrim and Lilith yet?
When it comes to genes, he's just a modified laborer aside from sapience. The template exists.

>>45126002
I think pilgrim has everything he wants, gene wise.

Only thing left is to hug him giodbye, and wish him the best.

>And also if you find interesting creatures bring us back a sample, pretty please.

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Heres hoping Pilgrim isn't seen as some sort of horrible monster in the first town he walks into.

Do we have any kind of knowledge about the outside world?

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>>45124987
>>45123896
>>45124134
>>45124169
>>45124644
>>45124961
>Confront Lilith about their Behavior.
>Roll 15/20
>Lilith Rolls 19/20
>Lilith "wins", but doesn't really. Not really.

The Technician has been properly updated on the behavior of "Lilith" and eventually works up the courage to confront and question Lilith.

The being comes when it is called, but seems sluggish and almost "hung over"- they lay limp, resting on the glass of the vat as they notice the Technician's return. Their shoulder budges out the form of a glazed eye, their hands trace the frame of their body before they pull away their skin and morph a disgusting, pulsing, red and fleshy lipped orifice that extends a muscular tongue- lapping at the glass of the vat.

Lilith speaks into the Technician's mind, muffled, echoed and slurred through the glass. It's all Lilith, very little Philosopher's stone, "I'm sorry- your soul is, it's intoxicating. After having you near me, IN me-" Lilith's extension sways back and forth, they hug themselves closed and try to morph into something less disturbing- tendrils of flesh, muscle, a bit of bone extend outwards.

"I'm just a little.. I felt like I could do ANYTHING, that everything would be FINE. I COULD HAVE BEEN THE MARBLE AND THE SCULPTOR."
Lilith rubs up and begins hitting the glass.
Their body spasms, peeling their skin back, growing it out again, peeling it back, the flesh constantly folding into itself like a flower blooming or ripples in wax.
"You're just so complete, you..you're no longer.. I COULD HAVE KNOWN AND SHOWN ALL THE JOY OF CREATION." Lilith eventually calms down, forming into a more humanoid form.
Compulsively stroking their fleshy-tendrils of white bleached "hair", "I'm sorry, please talk to me."

The Technician just stands there, eventually leaning back on the table as they try to process this.
The Technician doesn't really know what to say.

>>45126318
Tell her about our dream, and what it could mean. Maybe she'll have that same dream

>>45126318
>The Technician doesn't really know what to say.

Jesus H. Christ. They aren't the only one.

>>45126318
>>45125542

So, we have two loose ends here I think we should focus on as our "final action":

We can try and work something out with Lilith or we come to the conclusion of The Pilgrim's little hero's Journey.

It's up to you guys.

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>>45126400
Work something out with Lilith, we'll open up with the hunt next time.

Let's talk with Lilith, about her desire to create. Does she want our help gaining a soul herself?

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>>45126318
Okay. So. Things are awkward.

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>>45126440
definitely find out whats going on with lilith and technician, its more than just her wanting companionship...alot more

>>45126318
>COULD HAVE
Lilith seems certain that when we left the vat she lost us forever. I still really think we need to get closer to her, but not in such a creepy obsessive way.
So first of all, of course, we need to tell her off for what she did, say that it was wrong, that we have other responsibilities to everyone, and that she has no right to keep us as any sort of prisoner or toy.
But also tell her that we really like her-that we like her more than as a tool, or as a fellow homonculus, but that we truly like and LOVE her as a friend or if you guys all feel about this the same way I do, we could even like her more than a friend, and that we don't plan on abandoning her, and that we DO plan on sharing more magical moments with her.

>>45126400
Talk to lilith. Talk about the nature of the soul.

Ask her what she means, when she says she could be the marble and the sculptor.

Ask her what it is she wants from life, and how we can help her be happy

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>>45126487
WHAT WOULD MAKE YOU SAY THAT?

>>45126444
We don't need to panic. This is a very reasonable want. She wants to not only be the medium -for- creation, but to create herself! I think that's actually essential! We want her to gain a soul of her own fully as we do! Then she'd not have to leech us!

We can help Lilith with that! She's our closet friend and adviser, and we can forgive her for what has been done to us.

Besides, we got a killer roll here for resolving it:>>45126440

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>>45126529
Sounds like the Red World talking there

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>>45126553
Ego I think she's trying to say 'I could have been a God'

>>45126572
i swear you h8 me jyoti why bring that up...right in the heart mang
>>45126529
i think it may have been the part where she licked the glass..not sure though
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it got me thinking...i think its because of all the neglect the "master" gave her, honestly i really think he used her as just a "creation tool" and nothing else, and now we have to put all of these homunculi back together piece by piece or else things like "2 month hiatus hugging" happens..."these problems matterrrr"

>>45126507
I'm more concerned about the possibility of her getting addicted to us.

Spending more time with her like that might not be what she needs.