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Excuse me for asking, but don't you Astartes have two hearts? so wouldn't your symbol need to include a second heart?

Or do you all rip one heart out by hand and have it replaced with a mechanical one for some kind of ritual?

>>45418713
You doing the exact same joke?

Also, link to last thread. Can't add it to the wiki page for some reason.

>>45418713
They aren't going to be tearing out their primary heart.

>>45418924
Should maybe add the actual link:
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/45383688/

Question, if we don't use devastators, what does our 9th Company do? Do we have a extra battle company, or do we have one company doing something unique?

>>45418975
I'd go for extra battle company.

>>45418975
A company of apothecaries, chaplains and librarians? The 'Masters of Ceremony'?

>>45418975
extra battle company yea

>>45419026
Ooooo or this!

>>45419026
This. They can operate like the scout company and keep their people spread about at all times.

>>45419026
Right, if we're going for this, which it seems, would their be a Captain for it, a if so would it basically be a honorary title?

>>45419220
Since the secondary heart is called the Maintainer, how about Captain-Maintainer or Lord Maintainer?

>>45419220
The title isn't entirely just an honorific.

He is part of the Chapter Council and as such has at least some say in what the Chapter as a whole does.

Also they would be in charge of the deployment of the personnel under their jurisdiction and have final say in all transfer requests.

The current Master of Ceremonies is a quite powerful psyker.

>>45419331
We already have a librarian captain. Should we create a second librarian, or move the captain of the 3rd to the 9th?
I vote for moving.

>>45419534
Wait, doesn't the 3rd company captain have a crozius? That means he's a chaplain, right?

>>45419534
Why not have more than one psyker captain? There are usually more librarians than chaplains anyways

Logo has been added to the wiki page

>>45419280
>Captain-Maintainer
I second this one, sounds badass

>>45419280
Yeah, I like this title.

>>45418713
>iron hands need to cut off one of their hande because their symbol only displays one

>>45419331
I think it should be passed around each group i.e. if it is a Librarian now, it has to be an Apothecary next, then a Chaplain ect. This is done shoe won faction does not become to powerful with in the Company

>>45420033
Iron Hands are super autists so they probably do that

>>45420330
Iron Hands superiors would do it with an honest-to-Emperor smile on their face if they had any mouths.

>>45420370
Iron Hands are never happy. They are the no fun allowed chapter.

Link to wiki page: https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Cardinal_Knights

>>45419280
I like maintainer as an honorific.

We going with that idea that there's a cabal among some of the command structure, possibly led by the Master of the Forge, with the Inquistion to send the chapter out on suicide missions to wipe them out from the last thread?

>>45422612
Yes yes we are

Ok, so the leader of this 'Leadership' or 'council' compaany has the honorific title of maitainer aye?

Ok, lets flessh him out now. We said he was a Librarian currently, reformist of fundamentalist?

We also need to flesh out the master of the forge traitor, name and some writefag

ALSO if we really want our chapter here to be succesful we need a tiimeline, I think we could be very succesful with this(possibly on the level of the Emperor's Nightmare if we are lucky and diligent)

We were founded early M39, maybe lets asy... 123 M39? We also need to hammer out the prophecy somewhat, we want it vague and all but we still need the ACTUAL prophecy itself.

We decided it eerily mirrored something the nomadic tribes have, a story if you will

Any writefag wanna give it a shot?

Also I was thinking, seeing as the Devastators are not used because the heavy weapons destroy hearts to often, most if not all of our Dreadnoughts are close combat specialised right?

What should we make the most common dreadnought loadout? If they are melee based

>>45423404
Was working on some stuff about the Master of the Forge, then I went fall retard and lost it all. Wasn't planning for it to be that long though, so I can probably redo it along with some stuff for this >>45423522 tomorrow after work.

>>45423404
I think guy had said his name was like Ferrum, right?
>>45424279
How about giving them power claws like furioso dreadnoughts?

>>45424798
In the last thread Ferrum was not well loved by either his brother marines of Mechanicus siblings.

The fact that he remained forge master despite all this probably means that he is ruthless and cunning and liable to fuck your shit up if you try anything funny.

>>45425203
That or he's just really good at his job

>>45425203
>>45425266
I say go with both.

>>45425337
indeed, cant get rid of a scheming, coniver tzeentch likes who is ALSO good at his job.

... hey... what if Tzeentch was the one poisoning good Ferrums mind? Trying to 1 make sure Khorne don't get new followers and 2 for shits and giggles

He certainly seems like a just as planned sort of guy... and it gives us an actual chance at redemption as if he is exposed and a war starts with inquis he can be revealed and we WONT be obliterated just for survival

Just an idea in the end its writefags who will decide our fall or redemption anyways

>>45423522
we really need to resume all these ideas we're having guys, right now it's really hard to tell what's "canon" and what isn't, a timeline would be ideal

>>45426072
Yea, we really need a timeline before we go any further, I suggested a founding date further up, ideas of where to put other important dates on the timeline?

Bump

>>45426410
Which date did you have in mind?

>>45429391
I believe I said the founding date was 124 M39

Bump

>not being called the "Cardiac Knights"
onejob.jpg

Last bump before bed

Come on laddies, don't let this fall into obsurity! We don't even have a decent amount of Writefaggotry yet! I intend to put some up tomorrow, but this is a group effort. You don't need me to discuss fluff

I intend to make the timeline myself. Will post here for approval tomorrow. We can then make events, characters, writefag and such on the timeline as we go. This is a community effort, so lets keep it goin!

>>45432973
Right, okay, ideas, ideas...

They're primary enemies are the greenskins. Is there a specific klan that they've often clashed with in the past? Any large engagements? Could we squeeze them in, however nebulously canon it may be, into the third war for Armageddon?

>>45433982
WAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!! Wallbraeka

>>45435474
I forget, which Captain fought Wallbreaka?

>>45435559
All of them. Fuck it make it real nemesis hate fuel.

>>45433982
M41.998: Third War of Armageddon - As a result of Warboss Wallbreaka joining up with the WAAAGH of Warboss Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka, where he hoped to crack the walls of some of the Imperium's most famed Hive Cities, Captain Tragar, who had sworn the kill the Ork personally for out-smarting him 5 years perviously, gained permission to deploy not only the 3rd Company, but additional squad's loaned from all five of the chapter's reserve companies, being the total number of marines under his command to over 200, the highest number a single Captain had been given since the death of their former Alma Escura had been slain.

>>45437560
Right, does anyone have any more conflicts we want to shoehorn ourselves into?

>>45437590
Ehhh... we found a way to travel through time and fought at Isstvan III/V?

>>45437590
Wait, hold on, could we have featured in Badab War, because they wanted some Space Marine hearts?

>>45437560
>>45437590
>>45437604
>>45437643

During the 11th Black Crusade Abaddon the Despoiler discovered that you can't just substitute a Navigator with a Tzneetchian deamon and expect shit to work.

Point is that most of the 11th Black Crusade ended up spread across half the galaxy.

One of the early antagonists of the Cardinal Knights could be one of the lost armadas of the scattered Black Crusade.

>>45437698
YES! Can't do anything with this now, my lunch break is over, but I will get something typed up when I've finished work if no one else has.

bump

Im back! Nice going guys!

>>45419331

Anyone got some ideas for the 9th company Captain-Maintainer/Master of Ceremony?
I like the idea of the psyker, but how could we spice that up a bit?

>>45439575
He was, back in the old days, apprenticed to one of the shaman of his tribe out on the ice.

His particular tribe was one of the non-nomadic ones that dwelt around the hot springs of the far, far north.

His discovery was not dramatic. The tribe, as was their custom, sent out a messenger to say that another psyker had been born. The Knights sent an apothecary and one of their own psykers to examine the boy. Discovering that he was indeed psychic and also free of additional mutations and such he was taken by the Chapter for training.

Since his discovery he has gone forth and done great things.

His actual raw power is not actually that great. Mostly it just manifests as an uncanny gut feeling and some low to mid level telekinesis. Instead he mostly relies on cunning and underhanded tricks many astartes would consider dishonorable.

He is word perfect in chapter scripture but mostly uses this talent to make snarky and borderline irreverent comments on his fellow captains and the Chaplains.

Despite his not particually impressive abilities, for a Librarian, he is of the belief that psychics are the true inheritors of humanity and that the psyker master race will become dominant in time. It's not view that wins him many friends.

His trophy heart he took from a tyrannid of the lictor group. It itches when tyranids are close.

>>45437643
M41.909-12: Badab War - After hearing about the war in the Maelstrom Zone, Captain Grislom was given permission to deploy the 4th Company as well as some of the chapter's fleet to combat this treachery. Though he arrive late into the campaign, he set about making use of the forces at his disposal. While the other chapter's reorganised their forces, the Chaplain-Captain began to launch probing raids into the territory still held by Huron's forces, but quickly diverted themselves to dealing with the Ork problem that reared it's head in the Endyminion cluster. It is because of this some theories that the Mantis Warriors were able to strike at the already-battered Fire Angels. When the Inquisitorial force arrived in M41.910, the Grislom considered pulling the chapter away from the main force, but with the arrival of the Space Sharks, they saw an opportunity to make themselves useful. Remaining in the cluster, they co-originated with the Carcharodons and brought the sector to heel. Afterwards, in M41.911, the chapter was involved in the reclaiming of gene-seed stolen by the Astral Claws, before aiding the assault on the The Palace of Thorns, by ensuring no ships escaped the destruction of the last of Lufgt Huron empire.

>>45440620
As for a name, I'm thinking Captain-Maintainer Rhydian Vartanian.
Any objections?

>>45441047
Nope, sounds good to me

>>45441047
Rhydian the Vartanian.

Vartan was the name of his tribe. Was.

The tribe, as an identity, died out about 300 years ago. A whole bunch of the migrated southwards to find a new life and a bunch of mammoth herders moved in to the vacated space. The cultures hybridized. They are now Kalathan tribe.

Rhydian is the last of the Vartanians

>>45441720
>>45441047
>>45440620

Added to the wiki

bumping

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Captain Cyprian Megalos

Once looked down upon by many in the chapter because his mother was one of the city-born and a shopkeeper. His father was a path-finder of one of the more approachable tribes that would often trade animal skins and meat for the produce of civilization.

Despite being the result of a shopkeeper and a tribe that barely remembered what war even was Cyprian Megalos is undoubtedly one of the worst nightmares the Cardinal Knights have ever inflicted upon the galaxy.

Word perfect in the chapter scripture, the Thorian Creed, the chants of the Scutum–Centaurus death faith and well versed in a hundred other blood drenched holy books.

His presence on the field of war has been likened unto a wrecking ball attached to a meat grinder covered in thermite. He is a baneblade that walks like a man and has hymns for engine noise.

And he sings, by Him on Earth he sings. With the voice of angels and the majesty of the old gods he sings. He has a face that looks like it was set on fire and put out with a cricket bat and from it issues forth a voice in song that would make the heavens weep. Drenched in red and smoking with the blood of the fallen and yet he stands immaculate in the eyes of his brothers and the mere mortals beneath him.

He is the voice of faith within the chapter, there are no other chaplains that are too proud to ask his interpretation on holy writ. He is, in a real way, a chaplain's chaplain.

He strides into war with his old and much repaired plasma pistol in one had and a crozius arcanum in the other. That crozius arcanum has taken more deamons than some Grey Knights have had hot meals. The last thing in the material world all too many of the never-born see before being sent back to their hell is the winged Sanguinius that makes up its head. Possibly there are deamons now following him, intentionally seeking him out, with the intention of settling the score. He wouldn't know. They all look the same to him.

When exactly are we saying that Corazón became Chapter Master?

>>45443884
About 1,500 years ago maybe.

Long enough that the only people who remember a time before are the elders of the chapter and everyone else doesn't either know or care or both.

To them its just so many old men starting stories with "in my day".

>>45443585
Maybe change the line about hot meals from 'Grey Knights' to 'Nobles of Ashardalon' as I can't imagine the former actually have that many hot meals. Otherwise I love it, especially the last bit.

>>45444053
Good point.

>>45443996
Maybe not that long ago, space marines don't normally live that long, it's considered amazing Dante made it to 1'500 years. I was thinking about somewhere between 200-400 in M41

>>45444114
Normally yes but remember dreadnoughts are effectively immotal barrin death by violence.

Only Corazon and Old ultra remain from the founding of the chapter about 1,500 years ago

Corazon because he is i a dreadnought that is deactivated when the chapter is not at war, and Old Ultra because he is basically 80% machine at this point

>>45444562
So how many of those captains that had stood with him against Escura are still around besides Old Ultra?

(Love that name)

>>45444114
>>45444562
Corazon is their second chapter master, who has only lived this long because of his interment in his dreadnought to help him fight the Daemon heart trying too kill him. He is basically probably a legend to the chapter at this point(we DID toll him as our legend) similar to Bjorn the Fell handed, but he is the chapter master rather than some random veteran. Most likely a fair amount of important ceremonies take place before his great sarcophagus, as he is the named chapter master even if most of the leadership is done by the chapter council in his virtually permanent absence, and even when he is activated and mobilised for war he is little more than a Righteous killing machine, focused on easing his waking pain by killing as many worthy foes as possible and fighting in the name of the Empah, so even strategy is handled by the chapter council.

Also unlike Bjorn due to his 'condition' Corazon cannot regale them with tales of the chapters founding and earliest days(old ultra can of course) but many in the chapter, even many of the captains I imagine, consider him a near saintly figure in their chapter cult, for his righteous fury may hold Daemons at bay.

At this point it is even unlikely many in the chapter command think he actually has a Daemon heart, instead believing this to be mere legend our overexaggerated tales, of course Old Ultra Knows the truth, another of his seemingly endless burdens in his age

>>45444562
Yeah, okay then. So we're placing this around about the middle of M40 then. I suppose my question is how did the battle for the chapter take place. Are we going for the single fight in the Banquet Hall, or was it a full blown chapter war?

>>45444660
Honestly? Most likely none of them.

Personally after 1,500 years I doubt anyone other than the Old Ultra and Corazon from that event is alive

Age, combat, most likely the fact their was a Daemon in their ranks at all is probably real hush hush

They may be figures of legend at this point, being that they stood with their ancient Chapter master and Master of Sanctity all those centuries ago... but I doubt any others are still alive

>>45444677
Well if the story is(and it is) That Corazon put the Daemon down then and there is most likely that fight, and a short if brutal purge within the chapter of all of Escura's supporters. I imagine they would like to erase it from history if at all possibe, a chapter split is the last thing they need for the inquis to add MORE fire underneath them

>>45444660
None it would seem.

Old Ultra is a statistical blip.

>>45444755
Okay thanks, I really want to get a timeline downfor the chapter before I do some more writing

>>45445485
Wait, what if as part of the founding prophecy, there was some mention of "an ancient, heartless solider who would stand with the chapter until the end of days."

>>45445708
Thats good.

Everyone assumes that it is the interred chapter master.

For some reason nobody thinks of the cybernetic doctor with the drugs problem.

Old Ultra isn't going to correct anybody because it might result in more work and he can't be having with that shit at his time of life.

>>45445708
"How many bloody prophecies does our Emperor-forsaken chapter have?!"

>>45445837
Which is almost certainly what Old Ultra said about it.

He was raised as an Ultramarine, he thinks his chapter are fucking weird sometimes.