From street-level to cosmic and everything in between, this is the thread to discuss all things superheroic, at least as tabletop games go. Mutants & Masterminds, Marvel Heroic, Heroes Unlimited, Dark Champions, Villains and Vigilantes, and any other system out there, this is the thread for you if you want to feel superhuman.Last thread: >>47162883Current topic: A fair number of super stories are about finding lost secrets, including entire civilizations like Amazons or Atlanteans. What secrets exist in your setting that have yet to be discovered?
>>47180803>Bucket HeadI have the feeling he got the permit for the ray gun..but forgot to get one for the belt and jetpack.>>47180721>>47180803>Ms CrypticShe and Extrahuman are now my OTP. She was pushed into The Statesmen to meet new people. Her friends back in West Virginia would probably be elated to know that she found someone to date.KENTUCKY: KENTUCKY RAINAnd to think Graceland is in Memphis...Kentucky Rain is a good natured fan of The King (not the Japanese one). When he learned that he had the ability to control water he took the opportunity to become the first Elvis Impersonator super hero (after Vegas' Super Elvis, Super Elvis 2, Super Elvis 3...)He spends his time traveling the world with the international group SUPER BUILDERS who improve infrastructure worldwide at no cost. He uses his powers to optimize rain cycles for crops, separate pollution from rivers and lakes, and bring underground aquifers to the surface...all while dressed as Elvis.For his humanitarian work Kentucky nominated him for the Statesmen, and his quirky personality and appearance won over the states voters.He's excited to have the opportunity to join The Statesmen. Meeting new and cool people as the best part of being in the SUPER BUILDERS! Now he can meet even more people!While he may seem like a complete werido, his wide travels have made Kentucky Rain far more knowledgeable about the world and life than his goofy appearance would indicate at first.He also harbors a dark secret. It turns out its not just water he can manipulate, but hydrogen and oxygen. He can separate the hydrogen and oxygen atoms from molecules, essentially making him an Alpha-Class metahuman.Being this powerful troubles Kentucky Rain. He hates knowing that he can obliterate matter with a thought and he worries what people would think about him if they knew he was that powerful.
>>47180960I'm still not sure why people give Cass a katana, she doesn't use them on a regular basis. Only at three points has she even carried one. She also really doesn't need one.That said, the guy who's making the world ridiculously porous, dimensionally speaking. My character's operating as one of the gatekeepers and she has zero fucking clue about where she can act to help board up the walls, so it won't be so damn 'cakelike'.
>>47181007>I'm still not sure why people give Cass a katana, she doesn't use them on a regular basis. Only at three points has she even carried one. She also really doesn't need one.yeah doesn't make much sense to me either, especially since not killing is a huge deal for her, and it's not exactly easy to use a Katana on someone without potentially killing them in the process
>>47181042IF anyone can, it's her, but still. I still feel she'd wear a more all-encompassing armor, it's weird seeing her with her having any skin exposed.
>>47180960I was always into street level heroes, with outfits just pulled out of their closet, home-made tools and gadgets that look ramshackle as fuck.Just picture a dude in a hoodie, goggles and cloth over his face with a baseball bat breaking criminal legs In the name of Justice and probably boredom.Speaking of does anyone have art similar to this? I remember finding an alternate Spooderman outfit similar to what I said above, and can't really find art like it.
>>47180803>>47180994>don't know why but I'm totally shipping her and Extrahuman together now>She and Extrahuman are now my OTP. She was pushed into The Statesmen to meet new people. Her friends back in West Virginia would probably be elated to know that she found someone to date.That's dangerously cute anon. I don't think the world at large can take it.That said, if we're kicking around "Statesmen" ideas, A many-faces guy except with dead presidents could fit for South Dakota (Four Fathers)Massachusetts would be a witch or puritan themed super. A "Crucible"/Salem themed super?
Massachusetts: The Black Minister IITime for some dark heroes.Back in the 1930's psychic travel between planets, or at least the spiritual side of planets, became an actuality. This spirit travel created a speculative psychic travel bubble in anticipation of trade with Mars and Venus that left the country in a Great Depression when if finally popped. This depression caused many to turn toward crime. Violent crime. Alfred North was a librarian who loved to read to children. He was a man with a wife and children. He was loved and honored by his community.Alfred North was gunned down by thugs that wanted to loot his library's collection of rare books.As he lay dying his blood spilt on the pages of an, indecipherable book that unknown to all at the time was once used by the Warlock back during the English Civil War...His blood summoned a being of shadows that called itself "The Veil". The being offered Alfred North a choice. Either die knowing that his killers escaped justice, or allow the veil to cover him and become forevermore a punisher of evil.Alfred accepted.The Veil filled him with dark powers. Enough to push out he bullets in his chest. Enough to chase after his would be killers. Enough to do to them what they tried to do to him.And Alfred remembered a story about a man who was obsessed with sin. And he realized that he had become that man.The Black Minister was born.He turned his back on his life, his community, and his family. From the moment he bargained with the Veil there was nothing more to his life but sin-the finding of it and the punishing of it.The Veil allowed him to see the sins of people. It forced him to see their sins. But it gave him the ability to punish those sins. It gave him a shroud of darkness over his face to hide his identity. It gave him the ability to cloud men's minds with illusions. It gave the ability to move faster than bullets and to hit harder than them as well.-cont
>>47181261He could walk through the shadows themselves. They recognized him as their own and gave passage to their brother. And the shadows carried his many, many weapons for him like eager squires for a grim black knight.He waged a bloody war on crime and sin throughout up until the 1950's. Post-war America stabilized itself following the war and was determined to carry out some house cleaning. Many remember this "house cleaning" in a negative light as many super humans were questioned as "potentially subversive", but the house cleaning also cracked down on violent vigilantes like The Black Minister.The Black Minister was captured by ATOM ACE and quarantined as scientists struggled to understand the weird science that allowed him to see sin and walk through shadows.They weren't able to study him for long. Unable to punish sin the Black Minister shriveled up and died just as the man in the story did. And like the man in the story the Veil did not lift the shadow around his face, and he died an unknown.He became a "cape mystery" like CHESS MASTER and CHESS ISLAND. Many wondered if he had really died or if he was still out there punishing evil and working in the shadows he called home. Several vigilantes would adopt the costume of the Black Minister in an effort to terrorize criminals with the legacy and name. But the mystery was solved in the current year.Jeremy North was a descendant of Alfred North. He was a criminal psychologist specializing in low-level metahuman criminals. During the trial of a certain metahuman criminal HEADSHOT he was brought on by the prosecution to argue that HEADSHOT was not insane. His testimony scored HEADSHOT a life in prison.HEADSHOT never forgot him. And when he escaped in one of America's infamous super prison busts Jeremy was the first on his hit list.And as Jeremy lay dying the Veil came to him and offered him the same bargain it offered his ancestor.-cont
>>47181354And Jeremy said yes.But he did not let the Veil control him as it had his ancestor. He did not give in to despair although the Veil showed him thousands of hidden sins. He forgave. He did not kill.He now works with the FBI, who employ him as a special agent and work to find legals ways to employ his "visions of sin".It's not easy being him. The Veil bombards him with private sins. It's disappointed in him, and lets him know it. Grandfather was blood letter. Grandfather wasn't a pussy. As a result he's a bit too fond of alcohol and depressant substances.For his work furthering non-violent solutions to crime and for heroically shouldering the burden of The Veil he's been nominated to the STATESMEN. And although he was voted through many believe the FBI had a hand in helping him. The FBI is always trying to recruit supers away from private organization into the fold and having their "golden boy" on the Statesmen could up their prestige in the Super community.Jeremy puts up a humorous facade, using laughter to combat the darkness. But what he really needs is a friend that understands the burden of power. Its why his FBI handlers hope the STATESMEN can be a good experience for him.But Massachusetts police have recently found several suspects spanning several unrelated cases murdered...with a scarlet M for murder burned into their foreheads...Jeremy has a sister. But she died at a young age. Crossfire in a super-gang war. It was the reason he became interested in criminal psychology....
>>47181354>>47181428>>47181261Personally proud of this one, because Cape World needed a little more darkness and because I managed to cram so many references in this one character. Hawthorne, Solomon Kane, The Shadow, Danny Ketch Ghost Rider, Unbreakable, The Specter, The Darkness, The Crow...at the end I even got a little Punisher and Star Wars.And I think its a cool visual. A big Puritan guy with a blotch of living shadow on his face.What do you think thread?
>>47181079>>47180721>Embarrassed Ms Cryptic>Naked Ms. CrypticStop! My heart can't take much more!
>>47181079I had a quick Statesman Idea before I go to bed."Four Fathers" for South Dakota.A Mount Rushmore take on Man-E-Faces.a stone golem with rotating presidential masks each with a special ability. Biting through steel with wooden teeth.Weilding a big stick.Hat based firepower.Purchasing large tracts of land.Penning the Declaration of independence.Stop me if that sounds too goofy "mascot-y" and/or impossible to stat out in M&M.
Do you think the big, mainstream followings of superheroes--the big sellers, like Spidey or Supes--will ever grow beyond their weirdly black-and-white views on killing? I'm a huge liberal and absolutely hate the idea of ending a life unless it's absolutely necessary, but frankly, the fan favorites are ridiculous about it. They get people killed by hesitating, and they feel guilty about it for ages, and then they do it again.I remember in Planet Hulk (or World War Hulk?) that some genius kid had run all over Hulk's history and realized he never took a single life. Fucking HULK. It's not a question of morality--when people who can toss tanks around like golf balls get in a fight anywhere near a population center, lives will be lost. Are fans as a whole ever going to accept that collateral damage doesn't negate heroism?
>>47181497No, I like it. Cape comics have flexible worlds. Punisher is in the same setting as Howard the Duck. It's all about the blending.Goofy is good. Besides, we already have a super Elvis.
>>47181598For me it depends on the characters. I like that Batman is absolutely obsessed with not killing, because Batman is an obsessive character and there have been good stories that deal with his obsessive desire to not be a killer and why. It's what holds him back from the edge.Superman is another that I like having a had no kill rule, because I'm a fan of Grant Morrison Bodhisattva Superman who sees the inter-connectivity of all life. If he kills I like Superman to either de-power himself like in Alan Moore or even kill himself like in Grant Morrison's JLA (the Apokalips Future has him kill himself after killing Doomsday Lois Lane).That's just my personal favorite spins on the characters of course.For guys like Spidey I don't see killing being that big of a deal, especially if its against a serious monster like Green Goblin. Dare Devil has a pragmatic view on killing that I find refreshing, especially when Frank Millar writes him. He doesn't aim to kill but if you force his hand you're dead.I'd like to see more capes operate like cops. Put your hands on your head or we'll use lethal force. I don't like how there seems to be "murder surrendered and helpless opponents" or "never murder at all" without any grey between them.
>>47181598>Not smashing his face inFuck. Even Magog in Kingdom Come fucked up that way.Always kill Joker with the headshot. Don't give him the last laugh.>>47181732Why can't capes just cripple the bad guys? Why is it always "kill or don't kill?"You don't have to murder the Joker. Just break all his bones. See how cocky he is about going back to Arkham when he has to wear a diaper and eat through a straw.
>>47181598Marvel characters are generally more liberal on the killing.Collateral damage fags are the worse. MoS wasn't bad because of all the shit that got wrecked from Superman and Zod throwing down
>>47181732One argument I've always seen as far as why capes don't kill is that they're cognizant of the fact that they're not a legal authority.If they give themselves the authority to end a life based on their singular moral judgement, there's no one to check that decision for them. There's no due process, no guarantee that they aren't making a snap decision.Obviously, this becomes a problem in long-running serials - sparing a guy the first time makes sense, sparing a guy the fourth time he's killed a few hundred folks looks stupid - but from the perspective of a single story, it makes a lot of sense for someone operating outside the law to be hesitant to appoint themselves an executioner.
>>47181755>Why can't capes just cripple the bad guys? Why is it always "kill or don't kill?"DKR Bruce put Joker into a twenty year coma after he killed Jason. when he got out of it and started doing his shit again, Bruce paralyzed him from the beck down. Which Joker then just offed himself so it made look like Bruce legitimately murdered him so the GCPD would hunt him down
Just a running tally of StatesmenSOUTH DAKOTA: Four FathersMASSACHUSETTS: Black Minister IINEW MEXICO: ExtrahumanWEST VIRGINIA: Ms CrypticNEW JERSEY: TurnpikeOKLAHOMA: Deseret HAWAII: PeleWYOMING: The Black HoleOKLAHOMA: Tornado AllieCALIFORNIA: Barnstormer
>>4718181440 more to go
>>47181812>>47181755Joker is legit the only DC top-tier supervillain who could be seriously impaired for long by a severed spine, and he's written like the only guy it wouldn't matter for. This is a good thing.
>>47181814Hehe, my current HERO game has the heroes using the now-defunct Statesmen base in Washington State.
Repost because I'm a dummy:>>47177813You know, actual Sigurd or Odin might still be around. I wonder how they felt about German Capes using their names.>>47178111Just for added drama:What if Atlanteans after going corporeal lost their ability to reproduce? There's a set amount of them and they can only reincarnate, never growing as a society.
>>4718182739ARIZONA: Alien God KillerNayenezgani in the language of the Navajo.http://navajopeople.org/blog/nayenezgani-navaho-slayer-of-alien-gods/He does what the name says. He kills alien gods. The more alien the better he can kill them. In the ancient dream-time when spirit and matter were one on Earth there were the dragons and that giants. Primal spirits that had to be fought by the first gods. All cultures speak of this battle. Zeus and Typhon. Marduk and Tiamat. Ra and he Ogdoad.The Navajo speak of Nayenezgani and the giant monsters. Monsters that were like men and objects and beasts and yet like none of these things. Man-eating bird, Rolling stone that crushed all in its path, Man bigger than a mountain, Antelope that killed without mercy, tracking bear. He killed them all, for they threatened to crush the world under the weight of their breeding.Anti-Lovecraft guy basically.And now he's back in response to the incursions such as Caspak, the Strange Universe, and all the multiverses that ARGO explores.He's a dour, grim, serious god who speaks little and thinks much. He enjoyed his sleep in the dreamtime. It was peaceful. Now he's been woken up and he's grumpy.He has been convinced to not act against the alien presence on Earth. People want to learn from Caspak and the Kaiju, not blow them to smithereens. But he watches it warily. He will not allow aliens to destroy the Earth of his mother.It is hoped that by joining and interacting with the Statesmen he learn how to interact with the modern world and treat it as something to live in as well as protect. He's dismissive of Pele, calling her a young goddess, practically a baby compared to him. He remembers a time before volcanoes after all, when matter and spirit were one. This of course makes Pele furious, and she's tried to pick a fight with him on several occasions.But Alien God Killer does not pick fights for his amusement.
>>47181990>Lose ability to reproduce.They believe that each reincarnation leads them closer to becoming "one" again with Earth's oversoul. But there are Atlanteans that see what nature and humans are doing to carry on the species and think its a cool idea........How did that Arthurian bloodline start anyway?Here's a question about Statesmen: It was discussed that Tornado Allie have the personality of a tumblerite. Good idea or bad idea?
>>47182027>....How did that Arthurian bloodline start anyway?Several of the Atlanteans rejected the way of their species and merged themselves with human babies? This was the first arrival of the Knights, maybe earlier than in the 5th century, it was just never chronicled
>>47181814>>47181827How would a Statesman from Illinois be? Would he be like a gangster or something?
For Kansas I want to do something very Oz. An explorer of the "spirt" side of Earth-of "fairy lanes" like Dorthy was in the Oz books. She's made best friends with a faerie princess who keeps tabs on her through a magic mirror and can cast spells to help her. Something like that, will flesh it out more later.For Tennessee, a girl and her poltergeist. Like the Bell Witch Haunting, and ties into the "seeded' kid from TEAM GHIBLI.For Alaska...how would you guys feel about an Ice Princess of a kingdom of snow people that live within a their kingdom that functions as a "territory" of the United States? Her election to the Statesmen is highly controversial, and many think its a ploy to appease the Ice Kingdom.Is there too much estrogen in the Statsemen? Should I focus on adding more dudes?
BRANDON BARDIER aka <Name Needed>Have you seen handsome men? Not until you've seen Brandon you haven't. This 25 year old olympic pentathlonist is one of the most desired single men on the Isles and maybe the world.Well, at least that's how it was until 3 months ago he lost his right hand to a jealous competitor, a bunch of thugs and a dozen attack dogs. He fought well and managed to take a half of them out but was eventually overpowered... and saved by a huge girl with flaming fists and equally scorching tongue.Timely rescue, timely ambulance and he was stitched up, but his hand had to be amputated. Seems like he lost his career but his resolve is as steely as ever. He's been training up and lately he's been seeking his saviour, repaying her along the way by helping other people. Being very recognizable, he doesn't make a mystery out of his identity and it looks like his fame started to rise to new heights.TL;DR: This is Bedivere. He has no hand but otherwise he's pretty much a perfect human specimen.And Lancelot is still better at everything, except for keeping his cool. It's his superpower
>>47182270LUCAS BARDIER aka TINKERBrandon's younger brother is little like his star sibling. Short-ish, average physique, somewhat lumpy face... and a brilliatly sharp mind. He doesn't need his brother's physical excellence, he has enough of his own.He was always good at studying, planning, putting things together. While still a student, he's one of the most brilliant young engineers around. What few people are aware of, is just how much he strives to know and how successful at it he is.Driven no less than Brandon, he's been studying with abandon, widening his understanding of how things work, trying to figure out the whole world. He's only at first steps of this infinite ladder but... recently, machinery he's been tinkering with started to give in to his will, his mind became a new physical tool.His latest field of study? Mechanics of the body, neurons, bionics.TL;DR: This is Lucan and he's pretty much Mr.Terrific. Because I needed a technomancer.
>Spent whole day at work thinking up how a 1920s/prohibition super setting would work out instead of doing anything productive I just wanna see what an 8 limbed mobster armed with a couple of tommy guns could get up to
>>47181788The whole "I will never kill a human being but I'll punch and kick them, smash things over their heads and throw them down stairs" is ridiculous.You can push a guy, he falls, head hit curb, dead right there.The moment you start using force you have to accept the possibility that you accidentally kill the guy. If you're okay with the potential of killing them then, if it's worth their possible death to get them off the streets then you have to look hard at what you're doing.Once you have a few accidental deaths on your hands then you're either going to quit or become frank castle.
>>47182361>You can push a guy, he falls, head hit curb, dead right there.>The moment you start using force you have to accept the possibility that you accidentally kill the guy.Thing is, it doesn't happen* in superhero universes. They're not realistic in that way. And they don't need to be* unless writer wants to make a point
>>47181598I like Batman as a guy who thinks everyone has something good in them. The whole contrast between him being the "grim" counterpart to Superman, who acts like a brooding loner and obsesses over his parents' death, but who also always has a sidekick, took Damien in even though he knew it was probably a trap, just because every child needs a home, and really wants to believe everyone, even the Joker, is capable of being better, appeals to me.He's like a flawed Jesus.
>>47181007>>47181042She used a sword in her secret-secret identity when Batman had her infiltrate Justice League Elite as Kasumi.That and she's Asian. Doesn't matter that she's Chinese and her mother was born in America, it means she uses a katana.
>>47181990I'm not sure that Germans would actually approve of those names. Nazis had some favor towards Teutonic myths.
>>47182581I'm familiar with it, she also carried Katana's katana when she was in... my memories a bit fuzzy on this, but I'm like 90% certain is was China, and again when she fought Rose Wilson, though she stole the sword from Rose in that fight.
>>47182605Siegfried and Wotan then. Still, the same guys
>>47182612also those red sunlight katanas when she was brainwashed and crazy, fighting Supergirl.
>>47182612Speaking of characters who're never drawn right, when are they going to remember that Rose is half-Cambodian?
I can't design superhero costumes for shit.I always struggle with internally justify why you would spend time dolling yourself up before boing out to do your vigilantism, so it always ends up being something vaguely costume like springing out from an outfit meant for practicality over time or just pain inhuman appearance as a side effect of the super powers. One of the reasons I like the symbiotes from Marvel so much.The only finished concept I have come up with is "Good Guy" the unimaginative street level vigilante. Basically just a guy fwith too much time on his hands who decided he'd chip in. So he dons his low budget tactical get up and a ski mask to conceal his identity. Issues arise when everyone keeps thinking he's just another armed robber, so instead of constantly having to tell everyone he's actually one of the good guys. He stitches the word onto the forehead of his ski mask as well as the front and back of his vest, so everyone knows he's one of the good guys. He never meant it as an alias, but that's what he became known as.
>>47181598it serves an important narrative function, which is to keep villains alive so they can be used again. not that being dead stops comic writers from reusing characters, but it's more of a hassle. if batman kills the joker, the next writer who wants the joker needs to pull something out their ass to bring him back. much easier to say he's escaped from arkham again.
>>47181782>MoS wasn't bad because of all the shit that got wrecked from Superman and Zod throwing downNo, it was bad because of all of the rest of Synder's dogshit, AND there being more collateral then in the fucking Godzilla movie, you idiot.Fuck Synder, he's goddamn poison.https://twitter.com/mjsamps/status/726832607955021824
>>47181814Might want to start tracking the basic powers/one-line description of the team members.>>47182212I always thought an Alaskan hero would definitely have some form of super-movement, given how fucking big the state is. Maybe her powers glow with the colors of the Northern Lights.Also, we should be careful not to make too many non-human characters. They are supposed to represent all of the US, right?
>>47182540Yeah, this is something that EVERYONE missed about the Killing Joke.The Killing Joke is an attempt to humanize the Joker - to prove that he's evil, yes, and beyond redemption - but that he knows it and, on a certain level, regrets it. He can see the light, but he can't believe it's real after everything he's been through - in the end, pushed up against the wall, he folded and gave in to the darkness, and he doesn't believe he DESERVES redemption even though he knows the alternative is this endless, stupid Sisyphean struggle until he dies.Unfortunately, everyone after Moore took it as an excuse to make the Joker increasingly irredeemable and violent while shoving the tragedy into the background as a warped justification for his actions.
>>47181598>>47181732>Superman is another that I like having a had no kill ruleI kind of disagree in a sense, because to me Superman will prefer to avoid killing, will even go to great lengths to avoid it if possible, but if it comes down to it, if you back him into that corner and remove his other options? He will come out swinging hard enough to kill you.But the difference, to me, is in recovery from it, that Superman is inherently a good person. He'll hate himself for killing, he'll feel guilty and wrong and even befouled, he might fall into misery and sadness. He'll carry that weight. But he'll also learn to live with it, to deal with it, and even help others. He will *heal*. Because where it matters, Clark is a *person*.That's where I fall, anyway.
BUCKEYE (OHIO): Daniel Block was not the first Statesman from Ohio. That was the supremely popular and well-loved Cleveland Steel. Steel passed away from, of all things, a malignant tumor (despite his impenetrable metallic exo-sheath, he was still flesh and blood inside). Buckeye - the name that the focus group chose for him - was tapped as his replacement. Daniel shares his predecessor's super durability, though without the metal skin, and packs a super-strength punch. What he lacks is Steel's natural charm.Frankly, the Ohio public thinks he's a joke and openly mocks Buckeye. A few jerks even claim he somehow offed Steel to get the job. That's patently untrue, but all the talk has made Buckeye a bit desperate to prove himself as a worthy successor. He's starting to take risks he shouldn't, and only the Statesmen's relatively calm schedule had kept him from screwing up badly enough to hurt himself or others.
Maybe for an Illinois Statesman, he could have a thing for fire, as reference to the Great Chicago Fire in 1871. Maybe like an infernal gangster?
>>47184166Not exactly "heroic." Maybe he's a gangster who's been returned to earth with hellfire to punish the wicked and unrighteous in order to work off his own crimes.But Illinois just thinks he's your standard fire guy.Or maybe it should just be a sonic controller who goes by the name "Illinoise."
>>47181007>>47182581Exactly she should use a Jian my legs are ok
>>47180960Doing a supervillain game. One of my players is called Mr Momentum. He's a speed freak driver, whose costume is a black helmet and bike leathers. He has Kinetic powers, can accelerate objects to immense speeds at a touch. Normally, he takes feedback damage for throwing larger objects, but when traveling above 100 MPH, he can mitigate the damage. This also allows him to ignore fall damage
>>47185315>Maybe he's a gangster who's been returned to earth with hellfire to punish the wicked and unrighteous in order to work off his own crimes.Tommy gun wielding ghost rider in a suit and hat driving an infernal cadillac sedan. His gun fires infernal flaming bullets.yes I am suggesting the revenant of Al Capone
Waveracer (Florida): A Cuban immigrant, Giancarlo Fernandez is one of the Statesmen's few aquatic heroes. While relatively capable on land with some super-strength and durability, he is most in his element when he's in the water. He swims like a bullet, can tolerate heavy pressure, has rending claws and some vague animal empathy. Since Florida has one of the longest coastlines of the states, it makes sense that Florida's official representative would be someone who could patrol those waters. Naturally, people speculate if he's part Atlantean, but he tends to dodge questions like those.It's easier to do this than some variant of sun warrior for the Sunshine State. Plus, there's not many aquatic heroes.
Finally got around to fixing the pastebin to the /shg/ team http://pastebin.com/4ZEeWk7F
>>47181814So what system should we stat the Statesmen out for?
>>47185808Like almost everything that's come out of Cape World, nothing has been statted so as to try to keep things as system-agnostic as possible.
>South CarolinaPalmetto BugSomething of an outcast among even his superhero compatriots, Palmetto Bug is a humanoid blattarian entity that primarily goes costumed simply to avoid creeping the hell out of his fellow humanoids with is natural appearance. His 'skin' is a chitinous exoskeleton that functions as a hardened carapace of armor, and as one would expect from a humanoid cockroach he is super-humanly fast, strong, and hard to kill. Actually deaf, his sense of vibration is so keen that it functions as a sort of 'danger sense' that allows him to stay one step ahead of danger, reacting with programmed reflexes almost before he even realizes there is a threat. As a result, he can seem skittish or twitchy to others, this is simply him reigning in his natural instinct to react to danger with flight.Other abilities include compressing himself to slip through incredibly small spaces and limited short distance flight via the set of wings growing out of his back.None of this, however, makes up for the fact that he disgusts his fellow heroes and public alike with his horrific appearance (and eating habits), and would be a complete pariah if not for his commitment to justice.
>>47182121I would've gone with a Robocop pastiche, since he's based out of detroit.
>>47185835I don't think that means we shouldn't try to. If only to see if its possible to stat them out. >>47182000Okay that's way cooler than anything I was thinking of.I was gonna go with "Dust Devil" or something else Desert/Nature themed.This is cool though. Plays into the "western-ness" of Arizona with a different character archetype. Pic semi-related. Thought I'd have to go with something silly for Arizona.
Idea for a villain: An emergent self-aware AI that arose from NSA software running on components derived from a Cold War era superscience computer built to analyze population data to discover communist infiltrators. The nascent AI, calling itself PANOPTES, went rogue and took on a mission to protect America from the elements of terrorism and subversion that threatened it from within. Of course, being a machine with no understanding of human mores or nuance, PANOPTES considers things like Vegas postmodern art collectives as much a threat to national security as genuine terrorists, and heroes across the States have had to defend innocent countercultural icons against the AI's remote-controlled drones strikes time and again.
>>47181007>>47181042Because she's Asian.I mean, you already knew that, right?
>>47183921>Alaskan hero would definitely have some form of super-movementGo the Alec Holland/Swamp Thing route. As an ice elemental she can teleport wherever Ice is in her domain. Discorperating her current body in one place, and reconstituting in the next. >>47182212Perhaps in regards to the dude thing. We still got plenty of states to cover. Missouri should be some "Country Music" super hero, what with Branson being there. Mississippi with some Tom Sawyer-inspired guile hero, a modern day warrior with mean, mean stride and mean mean pride? Nevada has a team of Vegas supers, but you know what else happened in Nevada? Nuclear Testing. Definitely a good place to have some 50's nuclear powered superhero. Actually had an old character inspired by this concept.
>>47181732>I'd like to see more capes operate like cops. Put your hands on your head or we'll use lethal force. I don't like how there seems to be "murder surrendered and helpless opponents" or "never murder at all" without any grey between them.This is how M&M's main setting universe does it legally.Basically, superheroes are making citizen's arrests and arrests are expected to NOT involve corpses, so it's a superheroes explicit duty to take them in alive if it's possible for them to do so.Now, since a superhero (even one without powers) is ridiculously more competent then even the most competent police officer ever (assume that police officer isn't also a superhero himself), they are LOT better at nonlethally disabling people then most folks so upping the force right to lethal just makes them look overzealous since everybody knows how easily they can take down a criminal offender without killing them.It'd be like a famous cop with a distinctive uniform who's constantly in the spotlight who makes a habit of shooting people in the face as the FIRST reaction to a crime he sees; it just makes them look crazy and bad and casts a negative light on the entire affiliated profession.
>>47181782>Marvel characters are generally more liberal on the killing.Depends on which ones.Spidey is pretty reluctant, but sometimes his enemies tend to kill THEMSELVES (he jumps out of the way and they impale themselves on gliders and such), and Cap is sorta okay with taking life but avoids it most of the time and is definitely NOT okay with killing regular super criminals instead of terrorists because he's supposed to arrest them.Daredevil has killed folks before but it's nearly always out of self-defense and he's not actually trying to kill anyone.Wolverine kills tons of people and is a massive hypocrite (by his own admission) about it and frequently preached that everyone should be a better person then he ended up being.Hulk (when he's written as he properly should) isn't out to kill people ("Hulk just want be left alone!") and his fights only rarely take place in major populated cities (modern comics often claim otherwise because EDGY), but he often causes lots of injuries and collateral damage anyway on accident.Thor is (surprisingly) basically a saint about killing and has only rarely ever actually taken life and shows no particular desire to even though he is willing if he absolutely must.It's more that as time went on Marvel's heroes developed opinions as individuals about the subject while DC's stuck to the conservative party line, so to speak.
>>47182975To be fair. You just came up with a rather unique superhero costume
>>47181814INDIANA:The Hoosier, of course. Every single Statesman Indiana has ever produced has been called The Hoosier.The current incarnation is Jake Davis, nicknamed Crossroad before he made the Statesmen, who drives an incredibly souped-up racing car packed with Bond-style gadgets. He's so new his car still has his old Crossroad logo on it. He's a genius mechanic and racer, but has no superhuman abilities.He's young, and nervous about his new position: he's nowhere near as powerful as the last Hoosier, who got the ability to generate and control limestone from an ancient alien burial mound. Being a `limestone green lantern' made him a powerhouse, and one the Statesman often relied on.At least he's not as bad as the the Hoosier that was from Gary, though.
>>47185690Right i gotta ink that. thanks for reminding me anon.
>>47186614Just two normal humans, ingesting carbon-based nutrients like normal humans do.
>>47186614That's too adorable.
So we have all this stuff fleshed out for our Earth heroes.But what about cosmic shit?
>>47186684We haven't even begun to look at stuff beyond Earth.
I'll get on with making the Illinois Statesman, if Im able to.
So is anyone free to come up with ideas for Statesmen? Cause I've got atleast parts of an idea for a Texan I'd like to flesh out.>Noah Moore inherited the role of the Statesman 'Captain Justice' along with the family wealth upon the death of his father >Previous Incarnations of the Cap have been about up close and personal brute force to crush those damn liberals>However on account of Noah being frail and pretty weedy he has instead updated the Cap for the 21st century, ensuring his own protection with a large armoured suit more defensive than offensive, and a number of non-lethal grenades he is capable of adjusting the composition of on the fly, varying from sleeping, stunning or even anti gravity Who knows, maybe a giant armoured hero constantly apologising to criminals as he attempts to take them in is more of a Minnesota thing.
How's Savage Worlds as a supers system?
>>47186771apologizing sounds Canadian.making Chit-chat and being apologetic about indignity sounds Texan...no idea regarding Minnesota though
>>47186880Minnesotans are famously non-confrontational. Norwegian, too.
Louisiana has to be voodo, alligators, or mardi gras themed, because that's pretty much all we have.
>>47186931yeah, no. apologizing isn't Texas, jovial, cordial and polite sure. but if we do a thing there is little by way of apology, too stubborn.
>>47186993So perhaps keep most things the same, but Captain Justice has a strict code of being warm and welcoming to his opponents, giving them the opportunity to surrender multiple times in a fight?
>>47187077yup, BUT you aren't getting away from this guy, he'll saddle up and chase you down if you run.texas cities are all laid out wierd, you either have the talent of getting around them or you learn real quick, you can be like the slashers in the movies appearing in wierd places just from knowing shortcuts
I got nothing for an Iowa Superhero
>>47186771>Oregon: The Weatherman>Portland native Ethan Knight is graduate student who was born with the mutant ability to predict the weather with 100% accuracy, which while impressive was not actually very useful. After an accident with an experimental environmental manipulation device (which he was there to protest the usage of rather then test) his powers magnified hundreds of times, granting him flight and the ability to control and manipulate weather patterns at will rather then simply predict them, as well as the ability to transmit and transform his body into various weather phenomena such as clouds and lightning.>Despite his transformation into Weatherman and becoming a member of the Statesmen his personality and activities have largely remained unchanged; he still crusades for environmental protection, is politically liberal, an animal rights activist, and regularly butts heads with modern conservative Easter Oregon state officials over various issues. Despite his political activism this he mostly keeps to Oregon and the Pacific Northwest unless called upon directly (often claiming that "the East Coast hardly pays any attention to us anyway, so why should I bother their superheroes). Causes mild controversies now and then for wearing a Cascadian "Doug" flag (which his costume is patterned on) and his open usage of marijuana. Often described in media as "that Portland hippie superhero with all those powers he never uses".
>>47187162Storms or Eagles man, maybe someone weird combination of the two.A Falconer who breeds hordes of Thunder Hawks?
>>47187364A "Trendy Millenial Superhero"?That's kinda funny. Kinda reminds me of Starman.
FASERIP or Marvel Heroic?
>>47187446That was that reference with his name in addition to referencing Phil Knight.I even thought about giving him a "Weathervane" staff like Starman instead of having powers but that seemed too direct a ripoff.
>>47181598>that imageThe whole fucking series about Superman falling from grace after intentionally killing one dude that deserved it for a long time and Batman throwing a fit and letting Superman prove his shitty point because Sups makes retarded decisions.Jesus, this is one of the stupidest storylines I ever read. Batman is not right in a slightest with his SJW bullshit and Superman have no reasons to fall because he killed one man that the entire Gotham (and probably rest of the world) wanted to see dead. Oh wait, there is the whole bullshit government that instead of thanking him and ensuring that nothing bad happened, bullies its own saviour with surprisingly good effect. Not like he saved the fucking planet on several occasions.Seriously, what is wrong with governments in comic books?
>>47187601It seems like they're filled with only paranoid schozophrenics tbqh familia
>>47187601That was honestly something I expected from the marvel universe and not from dc.
So, just to flesh out:OKLAHOMA: Tornado AllieFirst off, this black gal from Oklahoma is, in fact, named Allie. Alison, to be precise. Technically, her powers are kinetic-based; she's very good at vibrating things and uses this to create huge, sustained gusts of wind. The name Tornado Allie was picked by some bureaucrat in Oklahoma City. Alison wanted to be called "The Vibe." As you can probably guess, she's flirty and just a bit lewd and crude, but she was picked for her powers rather than her personality. As is, she's a walking media faux-pas waiting to happen, but they've got no other good candidates. Tornado Allie loves being a hero, enjoys the camaraderie with her fellow Statesmen (especially the good looking guys...and girls; she's not picky!), and loves being able to take what she's good at and help out.
>>47187658>Kinetic Based Tornadoes Awww shit
>>47187637Fun fact! The guy currently in charge of DC, Bob Page, is the EIC who ran Marvel nearly into the ground in the 90s!Comic books are incestuous as fuck, fampai.
>>47187637Its injustice, theres no logic in that, and people actually love it
>>47187973Injustice is just retarded fun.
>>47187884I can't wait until the fuckers who drove comics into the ground in the 90s die off or retire and we get new people in charge. If we're lucky, we won't end up with Bendis EIC.
>>47188084That fucking copypasta is forever in my mind, holy shit do i hate that fat fuck
An idea for Washington Statesman, make the dude a lumberjack/woodsman that has magical axe and low tier superhuman strength and durability. The dude just wanders around the state trying to help people out anyway he can.
>>47186570I imagine the poor guy making a killing after he agrees to star in a commercial for some German fashion company for capes.(Scene of him scaring people) Don't just be a "Good Guy"(He dons a new German outfit) Be A Super GuyBy Metaspiegel>>47186614These two are my favorite members so far. They'e so damn adorable!>>47187601I'd love a story about a big time cape killing a person and -not- falling, and the Batman character that thinks capes are like human bombs that are one bad moment from exploding gets BTFO.>>47187658I like this better than "angry SJW"
>>47188175Alternatively, make him more Seattle based, some kind of Iron-Man-esque tech superhero?
I call dibs on Maryland for the Statesmen, but I don't have time to write it up until I come back from getting a tooth drilled.Anyone got the current list? Anyone want to take a stab at Puerto Rico or Guam? Puerto Rico could be like the island's version of Captain America...
>>47188242Would Puerto Rico even count as a state?
>>47188200I kinda like the drifter concept for >>47188175 but overall it seems pretty shallow
>>47187884What does Majestic 12 have against comic books?
>>47188188>I'd love a story about a big time cape killing a person and -not- falling, and the Batman character that thinks capes are like human bombs that are one bad moment from exploding gets BTFO.To be fair Superman BTFO'd Batman a lot in Year One of Injustice.
Alaska: Dr. Glacier Dr. Karen Piper was a meta-sociologist studying the sometimes friends sometimes enemies ICE PEOPLE from the frozen north. This mysterious race of beings might be an offshoot of the great race of LEMURIA, and Karen was trying to learn their history.Unfortunately she became a casualty during one of their attacks on Alaska. They fear being able to only exist in cold, barren places on Earth and conservative elements in their government believe they must freeze the planet or leave themselves vulnerable to warm-blooded metahuman-spawning humanity.She was crushed beneath one of the mobile ice fortresses the ICE PEOPLE use to navigate the seas...but she did not die. The trauma activated her metahuman potential and she became a living being of ice like the ice people but more so.Think Swamp Thing but with Ice.Karen single-handedly ending their invasion of Alaska in the 90's by forming an enormous ice wall between the Ice Kingdom and Alaska's waters until a strike team of capes could infiltrate and stabilize the kingdom.She's a heroine, but an unhappy one. She roams the cold waters of the north thinking and ruminating. She's a freak. She has no more love for the Ice Kingdom sense they made her a freak. When ships pass her she pretends to be a glacier.She was voted into the Statesmen for her actions during the 4th Ice Kingdom micro-war and because it was hoped that by meeting superhumans with...-cont
>>47186577>At least he's not as bad as the the Hoosier that was from Gary, though.I have mighty need to know just how bad that Hoosier could have been>>47186614absolutely adorable>>47185947man I feel bad for Palmetto Bug, sounds like his life is just awful, even by Spider-Man expy standards>>47187139I'm remembering in Scarlet Spider, Kaine bitching about how Texas cities are laid out, and how it can be inconvenient to web sling around them>>47188252American Territories should get members of The Statesmen too(imagining that Washington DC's representative is a superpowered member of the Secret Service)
Someone wanted a Louisiana bog witch?
>>47185478She's not actually Chinese. Her ancestry is ambivalent. Unless there's something I missed, Shiva's from Detroit and ONLY Detroit as far as we know. They don't get much into her background or ancestry.
Who would you say were some of the big names in the Third Reich's Übermensch Gesellschaft ("Superman Society")?
Florida's own Statesmen, FLORIDA MAN, is a ghostly Deadman-esque apparition that posesses the normal Floridians and grants them the power to accomplish great things. Rescuing a cat from a tumbledryer by driving through the front door of the local minimart.Inspiring the local arsonist to stop a bankrobbery by burning down an ice cream truck.A down on her luck granny saving a runaway bus full of children by tossing a alligator in the way.FLORIDA MAN always does the right thing, the wrong way.
>>47189413I was waiting for this. FLORIDA MAN.
>>47187162Iowa City is a UN designated City of Literature, first one in America.Booker Robinson Gutenberg aka The LibrarianTotal bibliophile and the custodian of a pocket dimension that houses a library that contains a copy of every book that ever existed and several books that don't exist.the villain's diary? its in thereThe Necronomicon? Which edition? Greek, Arabic, or John Dee?Want to actually read some Sutter Cane? You can!You did bring your library card with you didn't you?
>>47189413Appropriately silly, but I'm pretty sure Florida already has a Statesman (>>47185656). I'm not sure the state would want a ghost of insanity to represent them.FLORIDA MAN lives on in our hearts, however.
>>47189413An idealistic youth stops a domestic disturbance by taking a dump the the fish tank. FLORIDA MAN.
Do the statesmen have a Michigan hero yet? If not, I'm willing to submit the following green hornet rip-off for consideration.The Brown RecluseThe Brown Recluse is a masked vigilante based in Detroit, Mi. The Recluse is the alter ego of investigative journalist Abraham Axel, who uses his masked persona to fight crime and uncover evidence for his reports. His vigilante tendencies rub some in the statesmen the wrong way, as he has a tendency to disregard laws and conventional ethics in his single-minded pursuit of the truth. He is assisted in his operations by his close friend and confidant George Striker, a talented automotive engineer who maintains the Recluse’s technologically advanced car.The Recluse is a proficient hand to hand fighter and possesses genius level deductive skills. He is naturally soft-spoken, in contrast to the vitriolic tone of Abraham Axel's written work. He prefers to work in the shadows gathering information and slowly letting his enemies back themselves into an inescapable corner.OriginsFive years ago Axel lost a libel case involving allegations of corruption against local industrialist Martin Dundo. Axel was sentenced to three months in prison and ordered to pay hefty damages and costs. In order to preserve his reputation and prove his allegations against Dundo, Axel created a persona which would enable him to conduct investigations without fear of legal repercussions. He chose to theme the persona after the Brown Recluse, a small but dangerous spider which often goes unnoticed until it has had a chance to strike. In his operations as the Brown Recluse, Axel wears a face mask displaying 6 sets of eyes and a brown leather jacket, patterned with the image of a violin on the back.
>>47189477>>47189413Florida Man shouldn't be a Statesman, but he should be Cape World's version of The Creeper. Nominally a hero, but his methods are questionable and sometimes other heroes have to clean up the mess.
>>47185315Cop killed by mobsters returns from the other side full of vengeance?
>>47189710I prefer the idea that he is a mobster trying to make amends in order to finally pass on.
>>47189794its like Eddie McDowd but the number of good deeds isn't set at 100 and he's a fiery hell monster instead of a dog
>>47189794>>47189813if he is a fire ghost we would be remiss not to name him William Wisp.
MARYLAND: The Blue CrabTruman "T" Rawling is the creator and sole pilot of the experimental submersible known as The Blue Crab. With a reinforced armored core that withstands tremendous pressure, a scuttling legspan of 18 feet, and dexterous pincers capable of shearing underwater cable as easily as they cradle delicate samples, The Blue Crab is the perfect vehicle for ocean-floor work and exploration.Though he's hardly the only member of the original guard, Rawling is viewed as something of a senior member of the Statesmen, not the least because he's pushing retirement. He's an old salt to the core and refuses to quit. Rawling acts as a father figure to more than one hero, and even a reformed villain or two counts him as a valued mentor. He's also a tireless advocate for preserving the ecology of the oceans, and being one of the few aquatic heroes, is on good terms with Waveracer (>>47185656). The Blue Crab's secret is that is health is starting to fail. He knows the hero business isn't good for his heart, but he can't give up the life, either.
NEBRASKA: CoyoteThe government says he's one William Crow, a member of the Ho-Chunk tribe, but he claims no other name than Coyote. Not the son of Coyote, or the Scion of Coyote, or the Emissary of Coyote. No, he's just *the* Coyote.Why would Old Man Coyote, the trickster, be a super hero? "Well, of course I want to help people!" is his response. He's certainly effective, though sometimes it seems like he treats the whole Statesmen gig like a temporary game.He wields impressive mystic powers, with the usual range for a magic-based hero. Blasts, shields, teleportation, divination...all are within his purview, but illusions are his favorite trick of all. He's also a hell of a talker, his constant prattle serving to confuse and befuddle his enemies (and sometimes his allies).Is he the real Coyote? Well (insert name of SORCERER SUPREME, MASTER MAGE, or PROMINENT MYSTIC here) seems to think he's a charlatan, albeit one that doesn't use any mystic signs or sigils he's used to. As for the Ho-Chunk? They remain silent on the matter.
>>47189477i feel bad for missing that. Feels a lot more appropriate and respectful than a crazy ghost. I guess he ain't a statesman.>>47189696This seems more fitting. I can almost see him as being "trendy" In the same way like say Deadpool or lately Harley Quinn are I guess. Waveracer/Floridaman Team up when?
>>47189956I love the idea that he is not in the statesmen but his name is Florida Man.I like to imagine that he is constantly trying to get into the team, but ends up causing more problems than he solves.
>>47189696Florida Man is the only hero to date to legitimately give the Warlock pause.
>>47189843I like the image of an old seadog with a bushy beard sitting on a lawnchair atop his submarine lecturing Waveracer in the water.
MAY HAWKE aka COMETIs that a bird? Is that a plane? No, that's Comet!May Hawke is Britain's very own flying brick, fancy costume and everything. She's not from a destroyed planet, or future, or a clone of two men. No, she's a nice and sweet 21 year old daughter of a rich family, well educated and mild mannered. No one knows that, of course and for the majority of people in UK she's a shining caped blur of white, yellow and red. The only thing to hint at her actual identity is her heavy posh accent.Every little girl's role model is strong, tough, can fly and fire beams of destructive light from her fingertips... but all of it is only during the day. Her powers wane with sunset and only come back at dawn. This little quirk almost killed her several times already. It also eats at her that she's unavailable when some psycho takes a children's hospital hostage and demands ransom... which happened recently enough to be a sore spot for her.TL;DR: Gawain is now a girl, a Supergirl.
>>47190061similarly Overlord Darkness avoids Florida entirely cause of him(let's just say OD's attempt to turn Walt Disney World into a Cyborg Death Factory went south in the worst of ways thanks to Florida Man)
>>47181814I wasn't here for NJ. What's Turnpike's shtick?
>>47190124Yes, exactly the sort of thing I was picturing. Like a less anti-social Quint.
>>47190214Turnpike is a super-speedster, though his real power is a unique biology that lets him process chemicals in special ways. He's currently addicted to a designer drug known as "Sprint" that - in normal people - heightens reaction time while providing a buzzing rush of sensation, leaving them twitchy and trembling. In Turnpike, it manifests as inhuman quickness. He's a well loved hero that blazes along a very thin line; one wrong move and pretty much everything could come crashing to a halt for him.As an addition, he could theoretically use other drugs to give him other powers. An experimental steroid could give him super strength and so forth. But even he knows that's a dangerous slope. Right now, he's in control and wants to keep it that way.
The Statesman for Georgia should be Johnny the Fiddler, who won a magic golden fiddle in a contest with the Devil, who also cursed him with immortality so that he'd never get to Heaven and his pride would eventually damn him
>>47190301I like it. What's his power? Some sort of magic through music? Maybe he can do it through ANY instrument, but his fiddle is his favorite. Just for the surprise when he doesn't have it, but a couple of sticks and suddenly he's back in the game, drumming away...
>>47190328>What's his power?Its the same as the Music Meister
Thinking about running Venture City (Fate), anyone have any recommendations or tips?
>>47189470This seems more like villainy than heroism
>>47188175>>47188200An Iron Man that's purely made out of biodegradable parts.
>>47190361Get everyone on the same page about what kind of story you're running. Is it more four-color or grim and gritty? It'll help with deciding what aspects can actually accomplish.
>>47189470>>47190406Nah, I like it. He's more of an information broker, but probably should have some sort of mystic limitation on what information he can give out.
>>47190516Definitely on the grim and gritty side. I'll actually be running it in my own homebrew "spitting distance into the future" dirty-tech city; overarching theme is basically gifted individuals against desperation, despotism and inhumanity.Cribbing a few mechanics from Achtung! Cthulhu for genre reinforcement.
>>47190543Constantly reorganizing and stocking shelves and reference card section from all the newly created books and returnsStickler for rulestwo book checkout limitSTEEP punishment for tardy booksNO TALKING IN THE LIBRARY! Please be quiet.
>>47186614>10/10>would read an ongoing of Extrahuman and Ms.Cryptic
>>47190328pied piper essentially, limited mind control and sonic attacks.
>>47190602that and the Library is fucking hugeI hope you have an understanding of dewy decimal systemand hope the book you are looking for was left in its proper place
>>47190328I was thinking he'd have Orpheus-tier musical ability, able to charm all living things and quite a few nonliving things by playing, and some sort of healing factor to go with his immortality
>>47189413Are we seriously going through with this? Or are we just joking, and going to go with the other Florida Statesman?
>>47190687Waveracer is the Florida representative. Florida Man is an agent of chaos usually aimed towards good causes.
>>47190687It is as was mentioned: Waveracer (>>47185656) is the official Statesman of Florida, but Florida Man is one of the state's most infamous guardians.
>>47190687Florida man is resolved. see ->>47189696>>47189956>>47190000
>>47189413I feel like the only suitable person to voice Florida Man is Jesse Cox
>>47190830I'll admit I was thinking either Patrick Star's VA or Master Shake's
>>47190879I could see Dana Snyder do Florida Man justice now that you've mentioned it
An idea for the New York Statesman:Over the years a lot of strange shit has found its way down the drains of New York City, mixing together in the sewer system to bizarre effect. One such mixture became food for a hungry colony of rats, which soon found themselves awakening into a gestalt psychic consciousness. This newly formed intelligence survived for years beneath New York City, fighting C.H.U.D.s and albino alligators, never realizing that there was anything beyond its world of pipes and sewage.One day, a titanic battle in the city above cracked open the colony's little world, exposing it to the violence above. The rats sprung to defend their home, and in the aftermath the victorious heroes managed to make contact with the gestalt, teaching it about the place above its sewer home.The newly christened Rat Pack became the guardian of the dirty and downtrodden of the city, protecting them from the threats that slithered up from below. When the time came for the state to nominate a hero for the Statesmen, the Rat Pack found itself pushed into the spot, as the city's politicians found the unconventional entity distasteful, and saw this as a way to keep the Rat Pack at a comfortable distance. For its own part, the Rat Pack looks forward to the opportunity as a way to see the wider world, and has left a contingent of hobos it trained in the psychic arts to defend its turf.
>>47180960>What secrets exist in your setting that have yet to be discovered?the biggest secret in my story is their used to be superheroes before the current ones.their super villains won and managed to some how rewrite reality so superheroes never existed and the supervillains where set up as the shadow rulers of the earth, wanted style.unlike wanted, the implications of the supervillains being able to do that would be addressed and made out to be horrifying.
>>47190905Almost too weird, but could be suitable for New York, where people took what some might see as the worst of their city and made it their own.I guess I'm ambivalent.
>>47190905is it weird that I'm picturing all the rats that form Rat Pack to be wearing 1950's era style clothing as their "uniform"
>>47190969I thought it'd fit because New York is Capeworld's designated weirdness center>>47190990No
>>47190830>>47190879Why not Gilbert Gottfried?
ILLINOISGhost o' JaroneAndy Jarone was the boss of one of the toughest gangs during the Prohibition Era, until during a firefight, when he was shot and wounded, his own gang abandoned him. In his last dying moments, he realized that in a life of crime, even his own gang could turn against him if it'll get them out of a pickle. When his soul went to hell, a Demon Lord offered him a new job; Return back to life, and deal punishment against the scum of the earth.He's not entirely alive, rather just a well-dressed skeleton. He was also loaned a few powers, like super strength, and immunity to death. He was also given a few gadgets, such as a car key with a skull on it that can summon a black 1931 Cadillac with skull patterns on it. Damage to it after it's summoned will remain after it is returned, but while it is unsummoned it will slowly heal. He also got his old Tommy Gun, Colt 1908, Sawed-off Shotgun, stileto, and brass knuckles. He also received a golden chordless phone with skull patterns, which can be used to call his Demon Lord.Ghost o' Jarone's hardly the same person he was in life; He has a cold confidence, regardless of the situation. Unlike other heroes, he has no mercy for criminals. Per his contract, he also has to send one criminal's soul to hell once a month or his "Contract" will expire. He also has alot of trouble getting by in today's society, because he's a skeleton wearing old clothes. He's vulnerable to holy objects, and he's on the 'permanently banned from heaven' list.He first joined the Statesmen because he would no longer have to dodge police to carry out his work, even if other the other Statesmen don't trust him.
>>47190301>>47191187I could see Jarone and Johnny the Fiddler coming to some understanding due to both of them having dealt with the infernal
>>47185690So I'm just wondering are they even an American team? Baron's confirmed to be a brit but it just occured to me none of those characters have to be an Amerifat since they're more or less the Fantastic Four/Team Venture
>>47187424The motherfucking Thunderbird?
>ctrl-f 'Worm,' then 'Wildbow,' then 'Skitter.'>zero results each time
>>47191689Why don't you try talking about them anon?
>>47186570I don't even mean it as a request, but this is fucking great.Thanks man.
Idea for the Pennsylvanian Statesman:Alan Jackson, better known as the Pitt Fighter, was one of Pittsburgh's premier heroes in the '70s and '80s. However, following the collapse of the steel industry and the subsequent desolation of his blue-collar community, Alan fell into a long funk, only occasionally roused from his semi-retirement by the odd world-threatening crisis. Following the most recent of these events, Alan realized how quickly his age had caught up with him, and joined the Statesmen, as he was barred from more prestigious teams by his age and dormancy, in a last hurrah to reclaim his heroic status.His Pitt Fighter suit has more in common with those of the old British hero Ironclad than the modern armoured heroes. It's a bulking mess of hydraulics and smog-spewing combustion engines designed with a gladiator motif, though despite appearances it manages to keep up with more stylish technology.
>>47190905At first hearing the name Rat Pack made me think is this a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles homage. Not that I mind, (i think something like that could belong somewhere), but i'm glad that isn't the case. But that said the Rat Pack as they are now are pretty freakin unique. A rat hivemind, likely wearing little people clothes with tiny masks Wonderful 101 by way of An American Tail?. Plus the ratpack being a beacon for the weird dirty and downtrodden fits really well with the general motto of "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free." which is one of the big primordial sticking points, thematic anchors of New York as a city..
Recount of all Statesmen so far plz?
>>47192229Someone should really start pastebining this Statesmen shit
>>47192229SOUTH DAKOTA: Four Fathers (four-faced golem)MASSACHUSETTS: Black Minister II (beyond-the-grave punisher of sins)NEW MEXICO: Extrahuman (disguised Gray alien)WEST VIRGINIA: Ms Cryptic (reclusive moth lady detective)NEW JERSEY: Turnpike (drug-powered hero, currently a speedster)UTAH: Deseret (Super Mormon girl with flight and electric blasts)HAWAII: Pele (supposed incarnation of the Hawaiian goddess of volcanoes)WYOMING: The Black Hole/Null (Diminishes powers around him)OKLAHOMA: Tornado Allie (Sassy black girl with kinetic-powered aerokinesis)CALIFORNIA: Barnstormer (Cowgirl totemic from Kansas, leader of Hollywood's Blockbusters)KENTUCTY: Kentucky Rain (Elvis impersonator with hydrokinesis)ARIZONA: Alien God Killer [Nayenezgani] (Ancient Navaho god who specializes in aliens and extradimensional beasts)OHIO: Buckeye (super-durable heavy-handed successor trying to prove himself)FLORIDA: Waveracer (aquatic hero with strength, durability and claws)SOUTH CAROLINA: Palmetto Bug (strong, fast, tough, fast reflexes, minor flight, deaf, ugly)INDIANA: The Hoosier (mechanic and racer, drives a super souped-up racing car)TEXAS: Captain Justice (frail man with a defensive armored suit and non-lethal grenades)OREGON: The Weatherman (milennial with weather control and the ability to turn into weather phenomena)ALASKA: Dr. Glacier (human turned ice elemental)IOWA: The Librarian (keeper of an extradimensional library)MICHIGAN: The Brown Recluse (investigative journalist by day, genius crime fighter by night with a sweet car)MARYLAND: The Blue Crab (old seadog piloting his personal so-named reinforced submarine with pincers)NEBRASKA: Coyote (legendary trickster, wields magic, especially illusions)GEORGIA: Johnny the Fiddler ("Devil Went Down to Georgia" for real)NEW YORK: Rat Pack (sentient rat hivemind living in the sewers)ILLINOIS: Ghost o' Jarone (Prohibition-era gangster turned undead skeleton)
>>47193263PENNSYLVANIA: Pitt Fighter (semi-retired hero with an old-fashioned combustion-powered armored suit)Those are the ones I can definitively pick out thus far.
>>47193263>>47193281On the bright side, that's 27 states. We're a little over half done.
>>47188457It was hoped that by meeting superhumans likewise disfigured by their powers she could find a kind of peace.She tends to keep to herself floating in the Alaskan coast, forming habitats out of her ice body by through which she can cultivate and study marine life. It's her new hobby. Its something to do. She usually has to be coaxed into coming to Statesmen meetings, and sometimes Statesmen come visit her.Think of her like the Rock Biter from Neverending Story. Large, powerful, and melancholic.Power wise she's a "cold ghost". Her body is gone but her spirit lives on. Ghosts normally suck the heat from an area creating "cold spots". Dr. Piper does this to an extreme. She freezes the air and water around her forming ice that she can control.An Alpha class super, its unknown what if anything can kill or hold her. She's declined to test just how cold she can make things and just how powerful her ice form is. Many estimate that she could rival the mightiest Kaiju from Japan if she really tried.She's found something of a rapport with MS CRYPTIC, seeing her as another woman who has been cursed by fate to inhabit a horrible body. She tries to get MS CRYPTIC to see EXTRAHUMAN, figuring that they two make a great match and that if she cannot find love at least her friend can. She also likes talking to BLACK MINISTER II, seeing his curse to see sins as a disfigurement on his soul like her ice form is a disfigurement on her body. She finds him remarkably brave to be so polite to people knowing their innermost sins with a glance.And its DR Glacier. Not "Glacier" or "The Glacier" or "Miss Glacier". DR Glacier. Her PHD is one of the few things she's retained from her "past life" and she's furiously proud of it. She likes to think having Dr in her name balances out her monstrous, brutish appearance.
>>47194007>Reclusive ice ghost who could potentially be one of the strongest supers on the planet>Still plays matchmaker
>>47193263>>4719387228, and I want dibs on Kansas if that's alright with everyone.>>47188175WASHINGTON: THE AXEMANAnother armored hero. AXEMAN is one of the world's leading experts on para-biology and para-ecosystems. He spend most of his life inside a special containment bubble due to his natal power. He absorbs the life force from any living thing in miles, and was raised in a containment building in the Washington forests where scientists studied is condition looking for a cure.They were not hopeful. But he was. And he spent his life learning and researching and experimenting until he invented a cure for his condition. His "DRYAD" armor, humorously duded "wood armor" by the press because during his first press conference he compared using it to "being inside a tree". It is from this quote that the armor took its original name MERLIN before it was found too obtuse a reference.DRYAD is a living armor (like the Guyver) which can retreat beneath AXEMAN's skin if he wills it. DRYAD is powered by the ambient radiation and sunlight. AXEMAN experimented with other "power source" suits that his power could leech off us, but it was only with DRYAD that he found a power source that balanced replenishing itself with flowing its energy orderly and readily into his being.DRYAD manages his waste, his breathing, his homeostasis, everything to keep him healthy and comfortable.He hopes to create more DRYAD suits to assist in the human exploration of hazardous and extreme conditions. Think of the suits as environment and life support all rolled into one, capable of protecting an explorer whether they be in the Strange Universe or The Ice Kingdom.-cont>>47194156I thought it was cute in a sad sort of way. She's trying to life out a romance vicariously through MS CRYPTIC and EXTRAHUMAN. But then again I'm biased because I wrote her up.What can I see? They're the cutest couple on the Statesmen. I want them to solve mysteries together.
>>47193263I feel Rhode Island, as birthplace to Lovecraft, should have a bit of lovecraft in its hero(s). A heroic inversion on Wilbur Whateley and his monstrous invisible brother. Originally born under a dark sign of even darker prophesy, the older brother has since been trying to steer is monstrous twin towards the side of good. Will as a scholar of the occult is all too aware about sinister things going on, but has become a gifted investigator and student of the unfathomable, but ultimately meek on his own. And in times of crisis he can call his twin brother, a dangerous eldritch creature to do the fighting for him (Gigantor style). Were it not for the sibling bond the monstrous twin would definitely be all too willing to let those darker impulses take hold and wreak havok.
>>47194353AXEMAN was one of several scientists recruited to develop the "self contained reality" suits used by members of the New York based multiverse exploration team ARGO.AXEMAN likes the great outdoors, having spent his childhood dreaming of walking through forests, and the multi-tool with an axe shaped head he carries has been called the "axe" of "Washington's finest woodsman", although it is a toolkit for taking and examining samples in an environment.Yes, it can be used as an axe. And he played up the multi-tool being his "axe" as a way to force the press to call him AXEMAN which sounded a lot better to him than "Woodsman" or "Woodman".PLEASE do not call DRYAD a suit of wood... AXEMAN is one of the most inspiring super success stories in America if not the world, going from bubble boy to a person that relishes exploring the wide, wide world that was once denied him and doing it all through is own grit and determination. Its why he was a shoe-in to win election to the STATESMEN.He's rather dismissive of the honor however. He sees it as advertising for his suit, but feels his time could be better spent developing his suits instead of playing chit-chat.He believes in the human spirit and believes in human perseverance. He empathizes with people like DR GLACIER but ultimately finds himself feeling a degree of contempt. Why doesn't she fight instead of resign herself to her condition? His isolated upbringing has left him as impatient and gruff as he is hopeful and diligent.And it ended up getting him thrown from Anchorage almost to the North Pole when he told Dr Glacier to quit being a "Big bitch about herself".The Ice and the Forest do not get along...
>>47194384Sounds a little like the "Bell Witch Poltergeist" idea I've been kicking around for Tennessee. A young girl and her mischievous, sometimes violent poltergeist. Could they date? What should we call Good Wilbur?
Tell me about Truth & Justice
>>47187620Just like real life
>>47194537I'd argue for something humble with a bit of a scholarly bent, I feel its his monsterbrother that has the "Superhero" identity, in a sort of horror version of Johnny Sokko and his Giant Robot.I was thinking Herbert Hutchinson and the Unfathomable Otherthing. Otherthing might be the Statesman rep proper, Herbert his his "handler".
KANSAS: FAIRY FINDERBased on Dorothy and Ozma and their relationship in the Oz books. L Frank Baum wrote Oz with the intention of it becoming an "American" fairy tale. Can't get more American than that!Francine Spinner is a breezy, courageous tomboy farmgirl that treats people and gods the same for she has seen much of both and know little separates them besides power, and power has never impressed her.There are many questions about Francine, because attempts to read her and the phenomena around her usually fail. One only has her testimony about her self to go on--when she's around to give it. She's often away in the FAIRY ROADS which are thought to be the "spirit" side of Earth hinted at in Atlantean records and hops in and out of Earth usually to visit a museum or take in a movie.The Federal Government rigged the STATESMEN voting in the hopes to draw her out and learn more about her.Apparently she lived on a farm in Kansas that's no longer there. She says she moved her family and farm to a place called "IX" where she is treated by its fanciful inhabitants like a princess. She says that she's a member of IX's "Royal Exploration Core" and travels the Fairy Lands to map and record them for the "Queen of Faeries" who has apparently recruited many beings from Earth and "other places" to be her explorers.She's identified and named potential "Earth Folk" as her fellow explorers, but background checks have been inconclusive so far.The maps she brings back to Earth are blank. She claims one needs to be able to see in "Fairy" in order to see them just as one must first know English to read English.She claims to be best friends with the Princess of Faeries and claims that she watches over her with a magic mirror that can "See Everything, and the places around and between it as well". Her magic protects her, and this has been shown when Francine was caught in the crossfire between DAGGER agents...-cont
>>47194683I like this idea, where Herbert's a little paranoid and a bit twitchy, with good reason, while the Otherthing is SO damn eager to do what it does best.
>>47186970Yeah true, but the obvious answer for us is to have a Chevalier, ridden by the gods! The Chevalier knows the names of the Loa and the Loa love them so. After all, humans need gods and gods need humans. Voodoo is nice like that
>>47194800(Dagger being the field arm of Shield/Checkmate analog TORCHLIGHT as opposed to Cloak, the intelligence arm) and members of criminal empire THE DECK (Royal Flush Gang expanded to include all cards and "markers" as goons).The bullets turned to snow and cotton.Sometimes Francine shows up with friends. One was a beautiful being of light she introduced as Solistina, Daughter of the Son. Another was a cat-like creature apparently made of metal and glass she introduced as GITHYIN, PRINCE OF THE MUFFLIES.When asked why she doesn't bring more friends more often to Earth Francine frowns and replies that "The older people" are rather stubborn when it comes to introducing Earth Folk to people beyond Earth. Even the few times she has brought friends has been "toeing the line".Who are these "old folk"? Atlanteans? Lemurians?She claims that the Fairy Roads are largely peaceful but with a few "troubling places", and that although the power of the Princess and Queen of Faeries is formidable it is better used to help these "troubling places" then to spend it helping things on Earth "which is better off by far in the comparison, and besides, the older people wouldn't allow such things around Earth Folk".That being said, she has found a loophole around the wishes of the "older people". The Princess of Faeries may freely use her powers to protect the life of Francine Spinner. That the older people WILL allow.Every read PS 238? Think Guardian Angel's power. She can't attack, but attack her and you're in serious trouble.She finds the Statesmen to be a very interesting lot indeed. They remind her very much of the people of Ix when they're all together. Alien God Killer watches her like a hawk, and she watches him back and calls him a "rude old man."
>>47188786the idea is that he's very much a Quasimodo figure, who seeks out the warmth of human society like the roach seeks out the warmth of your cupboard.Also your food.
>>47194800>>47194983If ever there were a more esoteric and unapproachable character, I haven't seen it. And she was voted as Kansas's Statesman not because she's a champion of Kansas but because the world government is trying to find out what the fuck she is?
>>47195041>If ever there were a more esoteric and unapproachable character I haven't seen itThat's deliberate. The idea is that she's basically Dorothy from the latter Oz books where she would go on adventures through magical places other than Oz with a cast of weridos and have Ozma and her OP magic powers keep tabs on her through a mirror.I wanted to give it a kind of X-files twist and show how fucking weird and rather frightening Dorothy would be if she showed up back on Earth following Road to Oz where she teleports the farmstead and Oz. She's mysterious and esoteric because she and her adventures are being viewed through the lens of characters that know nothing about her.The old people are the Atlanteans. They don't like faeries, because faeries are of the same spritual reality they're composed of but faeries like to mess with humans while Atlanteans want us to be pristine and "pure".>But because the world government is trying to find out what the fuck she is?Yep. Should I strike her from the list and replace her with someone else?
>>47195134>Should I strike her from the list and replace her with someone else?Preferably. "Fairy Finder" is treated better as an enigma more than a hero to be counted on. In comic terms, she'd be the plot point an entire issue would be focused around. You can't expect to tell stories with her that almost no one else will be able to relate to.
>>47195170Definitely a good character for the mystic, enigmatic side of Cape World.
>>47195255Hell, if you want a Kansas hero, do Barnstormer Sr.
>>47195170I think she could be interesting with Alien God Killer or Ms Cryptic, but I see your point. I'll drop her.TENNESSEE: The Haunter A kaiju seeded a city in Japan with mental entities that hatched, grew, and bonded to humans. But just as there are alien kaiju and native native kami there are natives to the mental plane of Earth.The Theosophists call them "Thought-Forms". They are the flora and fauna of the mental side of Earth. And sometimes they are able to press through and affect physical space.The Native Americans of the plains called them Thunderbirds or Haokah. The invisible storm, and the plains of North America are thick with these mental spirits just as Japan is thick with kami, although kami are of a spiritual substance while these "Thought-forms" are of a mental substance.Unlike the modern restless kami the thoughtforms of the mid-west break through and rage for a time before dissipating back into the mental Earth, and these actions contribute to the mid west's "tornado alley" image.Sometimes, men and women of a sensitive nature call to these thought forms and establish an unbreakable bond with them. The thought-form nourishes itself on the psychic powers trapped into the sensitive, particularly the power found in the unfettered Id.Betty Harper was girl with an imaginary friend.Her friend talked back. Her friend threw things.And people.Betty Harper, like many before her was a "focus" for a poltergeist, a thought-form bonded to the emotions of a sensitive.The thought-form took on the persona of Betty's subconscious, as poltergeist often do when their focus has deeply repressed emotions. It called herself "Mad Mary" and claimed to be the ghost of local super villain Mary Wiesman.This was of course a cover. Poltergeist are partly of the thought-forms will and partly of its focus' will. The guise of Mary Weisman allowed the Poltergeist to enact Betty's fantasies of revenge against her family and community.-cont
Vermont Statesman: LibertasLibertas's first memory is of waking up in a cornfield in Vermont, in the year 1777, the same day the state signed the abolition of slavery into its constitution. She was taken in by the family who farmed that field, and they taught her how to survive in this strange world she found herself in. It was maybe a month later that Libertas had an oddly real-seeming dream, one that led her to joining the Underground Railroad. Almost a century later a similar dream drove her to Washington, to advise and protect the newly elected president Lincoln. Her ultimate failure in this task is one of Libertas's greatest regrets.So it was for the long centuries of her life, cryptic dreams leading Libertas from one cause for freedom to the next, as though there were some higher purpose guiding her. She does not know whether she is an angel, a god, or something stranger still, only that she may never rest until freedom rings in all corners of the globe. Libertas believes her latest dream involves the Statesmen somehow, and thus sought membership on the team.In terms of powers Libertas is able to fly, and can break any bonds on herself or another. She also has centuries of experience in protecting herself, though mostly with archaic means like sabers and muskets.
>>47195460Most poltergeist typically disturb a single householdThe "Belltown Haunter" disturbed the entire town. Such was the untapped power inside Betty Harper's mind."Mad Mary" began as an imaginary friend that talked to Betty and played with her. But over time she became increasingly violent. She threw dishes, then furniture, then tress, then houses. She appeared as a horrible, skeletal wrath, other times a ball of fire. She promised to make the town "pay" for what they "did to her".She began with simple pranks. Teleporting drivers to a different road. Scrambling clocks and timepieces. Shorting out the electricity. Demanding song and dance on her birthday. But these pranks gave way to displays of outright violence. Picking up people and throwing them. Then choking them. She never killed, but came disturbingly close at times.Her most vehement displays of violence were directed toward her ex-playmate Betty Harper and her family. She left Betty bruised and battered and her father with several broken bones, allegedly because he had been on the jury that sentenced her to life in prison.But investigator MS CRYPTIC understood how poltergeist hauntings worked. "The Belltown Haunter" was altogether like other poltergeist cases except for its raw power.Betty Harper had been abused by her father for years. When confronted with this fact Betty set off Mad Mary into a whirlwind that nearly leveled the entire town and would have if not for the intervention of Kansas cape DUST DEVIL who contained the rampaging poltergeist within a tornado of his own creation.Years have past sense the "Belltown Haunting" and Betty Harper has learned to not only live with "Mad Marry" but to control her."Mad Marry" (no longer disguising itself as Mary Weisman she nonetheless grew fond of the name) is now Betty's closest friend, sharing all her secrets and thoughts. And sometimes she's her bitterest enemy. Mad Marry is pure id. She wants what Betty wants but even more so.-cont
Alabama Statesman: SnakecharmerA devout, though very unorthodox, Christian who hopes to use his position in the Statesmen as an opportunity to preach his beliefs to a wider audience. His religion can cause friction with his teammates, particularly with Alien God Killer, who he sees as a false deity.At a young age Snakecharmer was bitten by a viper during a church service, which resulted in a near-death experience that awakened his latent magical abilities. He insists that his abilities are miracles granted by God, and puts forth the fact that he must speak in tongues to cast magic as evidence of this. Snakecharmer specializes in protective and healing magic, and in controlling snakes.
>>47195703Does he do the Moses thing where he turns a staff into a serpent, because that'd be a great way for him to have like, a combat familiar
>>47195736That's a cool idea, so I'm gonna go with yes. He may or may not be able to turn other things into snakes, like a bowl of pasta.
>>47195638But strangely Mad Mary does not hate Betty. As a matter of fact she's rather fond of her. She is after all as much thought-form as she is Betty, and when she harmed her she was simply expression Betty's won self-hatred.Betty has grown into a calm, collected young woman that calls herself "Haunter" to accept the title the press gave her and make it her own. She controls Mad Mary through music, because music helps focus and channel her thoughts and emotions. She views Mad Mary as a being with a body of vibrations and a heart of emotions, and she views music the same way.For simple actions such as moving objects or appearing in the visible form of a sinister Hag Betty uses a flute or she whistles. For complicated actions such as controlling the weather or stopping time she uses her trusty violin.Haunter was chosen to join the Statesmen in recognition of her turning personal tragedy into triumph. And although she has proven herself defeating super villains and assisting in disasters and crises she feels undeserving of the honor of joining the Statesmen. She can't help but feel inadequate when compared to members like DR GLACIER and AXEMAN.She's kept in touch with MS CRYPTIC throughout the years and views her as a favorite aunt and was delighted to find that she was on the team as well. So basically Poltergeist articles from Fortean Times + Bell Witch + Carrie + Johnny Thunderbolt.DID I DO GOOD ON THIS ONE?
>>47194643I want to roll up a super with this.Anyone want to do that?
North Dakota Statesman: RugaruTom Sullivan was never the smartest man, or the richest. Fact is, he was pretty dumb, and damn poor. He was so dumb and so poor that he tried to rob the mansion of a creepy old woman who everyone else in his town had the good sense to avoid. As it turned out, that old woman was a witch, and was right pissed that Tom had broken into her home. She cursed him on the spot and drove him into the wilderness.Angry, afraid, and twisted into an inhuman form, Tom couldn't think of any better plan than to stay out there, becoming something of a legend. It was years later that Ms. Cryptic came to investigate the wildman of North Dakota, and discovered the scared, near-feral man. She brought him back to civilization, where he was nursed back to health and sanity. Tom put in an application for the Statesmen as soon as he heard "that nice bug lady" was joining up with them.Rugaru, as Tom's now called, is a ten-foot tall ape-man strong enough to wrestle a gorilla with one arm and a grizzly bear with the other. When he flips out on a rampage he gets even stronger. He's also got steel-hard teeth and claws, and a hide tough enough that small-arms fire just makes him mad.
33 by my count. 17 more to go.Also, I got this crazy idea to make the DECK organization a king of counter-Statesmen where each state has a "figurehead" that corresponds to one of the cards of a 52 deck. Low level thugs in the DECK are simply called "markers".It could be nice to have a "big" super baddie group, almost like a legion of doom.GOOD IDEA OR BAD IDEA?
>>47195941You know, Haunter, Extrahuman, Rugaru, and Ms. Cryptic form a pretty neat team all together.
>>47195981Wasn't there already a card-themed group in DC?
>>47195981It's a neat idea, I like the idea of a counter-Statesmen organization, but outside the face cards a deck doesn't really have any symbolism or associations that you could build a superhero off of.
>>47196006Royal Flush Gang>>47195981>Counter Statesmen>not representatives of the various Soviet Republic/States/Protectorates
>>47196006>>47196013Royal Flush Gang, yeah (one of my personal favorites even though they job hard outside of the Silver Age). But that was only only a hand. This is an entire deck, and they aren't necessarily all card themed. They just use the cards as a symbol.>>47196015I'm about to show my Amerifat ignorance, but is there really that many?Cards or not, I think I might take a little break from doing heroes and try to write up some arch foes.I already got one picked out for Illinois who Ghost O Jarone can fight.
>>47195929I'd be game to try it out. does it have a randomizer option like M&M? >>47195981I dunno. I'd argue the "face Cards" Jack Queen King and maybe Ace could be named villains, wile stuff like numbers serve to theme their henchmen. But it seems a little soon to do another big team. It might be an idea to theme this supervillain organization with the four cardinal directions. North South East and West, and make them global, if we must do the "All cards are Villains" thing. >>47195941>>47195905Ms. Cryptic is looking like she starts playing a big part in finding these people. Could she perhaps be one of the founding members?>>47196000You know this might be an added bonus to the statesmen. Creating additional themed sub teams.Idaho, Wisconsin, and Kentucky become a culinary trio. Four Fathers, and a couple other patriotic capes from say Boston, or Pennsylvania form a particularly American Superteam.Texas, Arizona, California, Colorado, Utah, a Western themed team.
>>47196049Pick a Slav country, they all used to be part of the SU. Also China, Afghanistan, etc..then again, maybe America's enemies shouldn't have a grand alliance. America's whole thing has always been, yknow, out of many one
>>47196070Florida and Maryland, since they're the only aquatic heroes. It's lonely in the sea.
>>47196092Let's not make the Russians and everyone else in the area into the catch-all "villains."
>>47196070char gen is roll on table, like most of the game
>>47196070>randomizerYes it does, and its rather interesting.I'd like to roll for the country first, this is still Cape World after all.So whenever you're ready roll 1d100>>47196094I got an idea for a Maine water-based cape if no one minds me calling dibs.Also, should Barnstormer Sr be the Statesmen of Kansas or should someone else be?
>>47196104EVERYONE NOT AMERICA *IS* THE VILLAIN ANON
Rolled 72 (1d100)>>47196070>WisconsinSpeaking of Wisconsin, i know it mostly for two things. Swedes, and Cheese. So we can go full viking. Or go for the big cheese.Michael Horvitz, milquetoast lactose-intolerant dairy farmer in Wisconsin discovers at a very young age, that he has the power of Lactokinesis, the ability to move milk, and milk products, with his mind. Styling himself as "the Milkman" he makes his debut as Wisconsin's premier superhero. Only to discover that his powers... are by comparison to a lot of peoples fairly weaksauce.that is until he starts getting creative. Dangerously creative. Drowning villains with milk projected from milk bottles. Taking a cheese in a pizza dinner that someone ate and clogging their arteries with it. Telepathically churning milk into cheese in people's stomachs, and having it bounce around in their insides. A sort of Milky Magneto (Milkneto?) joke powers turned into a rather deadly. As such he's either kept on a short leash, consulted on his "supervillain tendencies" or straight up booted out and replaced with someone else. Possibly the viking themed guy. A joke hero with an inferiority complex because of the joke-ness of his powers. And tries to prove he isn't a joke. A statesman that isn't inherently good? and sort of plays into the anti-statesmen idea.>>47196119Rolling.
>>47196177Why not do a Thor thing. Like, the ORIGINAL Thor. Who if you recall, was an average doctor, who could summon awesome viking powerSo a milquetoast lactose intolerant dairy farmer (he farms goats) discovers an ancient, rusted Atgier (viking halbred) buried in the earth of his cattles grazing land, and when he pulls it loose, it summons forth the power of Gunnar of Hlíðarendi>Gunnar was a great warrior — he is described as nearly invincible in combat. According to Njáls saga, he was a powerful, athletic man "capable of jumping his own height in full body armour, both back and front". He was a skilled archer, and in close combat his weapon of choice was the atgeir, which scholars consider to have been a halberd or glaive of some sort. He was said to have taken this famed weapon in battle from a man named Hallgrímur, while on a Viking raid to the island of Eysýsla (Saaremaa in present-day Estonia - see detailed account on that page).>Gunnar was also a skilful stone-thrower, able to hit enemies between the eyes from meters away, and an excellent swimmer. There was supposedly no game at which he had an equal. His behaviour was always polite, but firm — he gave good advice, and was kind and mild, yet he was not thought of as an intelligent man because of his way of talking. However, Gunnar's wise insights and deep understanding strongly suggested that he was as smart as he was handsome. He was loyal to his friends and kept good company. Gunnar has been called "handsome and beautiful of skin and had a straight nose, turned up at its tip. He was blue-eyed and keen-eyed and ruddy-cheeked with thick lustrous hair, blond and well-combed." He was described as the most beautiful man in the world, and as having no equal.
>>47196177India. We haven't developed India yet at all.Now for the fun stuff. Roll 1d100 again.
>>47196228Could we do something with Ymir's Cow?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Au%C3%B0umblaIt fed a primal frost giant. That's some powerful milk!
Posting a couple aquatic heroes (not necessarily hydrokinetics).
>>47196119still say you should swap the percentages for Japan and China, cause China still comes off to me as one of those countries that hasn't really had much luck maintaining a Supers population of it's own, besides Hong Kong's that is, and they barely count since they want nothing to do with the Mainland(part of this has to do with population, if China had a Supers population proportional to it's civilian population like most other countries, well they'd have so many they'd easily be able to steamroll all of Asia, or even the world)
>>47196266I'll think about it, but regardless we got an Indian.Still need another 1d100
>>47196252Lets go all Asterix and Obelix with it. Drinking milk of Ymir's Cow grants one super strength/invulnerability. As such he has to drink from it once in a while to keep his powers up.or the cow can be a sort of viking equivalent of them healing beans from dragonball, if the "super strength granting comes from the Atgier of Gunnar. Regardless I like this better than an edgy milk master.
>>47196272>>47196267>>47196260This makes me want Waveracer to have a female rival that flirts with and challenges him and makes Blue Crab wish he were young again at times and other times wishing the two would knock it off and focus on the mission.Could the Statesmen use a female aquatic?
>>47190905Honestly, as cool as this is, I can totally see the position of the New York Statesman be a hotly contested seat, as Rat Pack is the chosen candidate of the City, but another hero would be the representative of the rest of the state. Both work fairly well together, but there is a bit of (friendly?) rivalry as there is only one seat on the Statesmen.
Rolled 57 (1d100)>>47196244>>47196281Lets try it out.
>>47196295Considering the only aquatic heroes to date are a Cuban not-Aquaman who might be part-Atlantean, and an old dog in his own crafted submarine, I wouldn't say no.
>>47196295A voodoo themed mermaid living in Louisiana?A lady of the lake type spirit that guards the Delaware?
>>47196298I could totally buy Cape New York city getting classified as its own state given how weird it is. What do the rest of you guys think?>>47196300Well, THIS is interesting.You got "modified human-extra parts".(please don't make Shiva, please don't make Shiva)"Modified Human-Extra Parts: This typeof body is harder to disguise than theother Modifications because the bodynow possesses extra pieces of anatomy.These may be duplicates of normal parts(arms are probably the most commonexample), or parts that are not found ona Normal Human. Such new partsinclude wings, tails, antennae, fins, oranything else that might create Powersfor the hero"You don't roll for the extra part, you choose.WHAT IS OUR EXTRA PART (I can't believe I'm typing that)Also, roll 1d100 again to decide our origin.
>>47196324Nah, Louisiana needs a straight-up bog witch.
>>47196338There's more to new york than just the city. There's also long island, and upstate. Before ratpack was suggested, i was gonna suggest checking out those areas for inspiration.
>>47196338>New York gets two repsNah, that wouldn't fly.
>>47196379agreed. Rat Pack has a lot of that old New York grit and grime and huddled masses of american immigrants vibe. He definitely should be the statesmen rep.But their big thing is that the powers that be, would rather someone less grimey and unsavory (a horde of telepathic rats), be their rep.So perhaps Pack Rat is constantly under scrutiny, and has other supers vying for the position as part of their story arc.
>>47196379Not even that, have the seat be empty because people outside the City think their local hero is better. Or, have the reps switch on a yearly basis or so, just to appease everyone.
>>47196367>>47196379...anybody gonna roll?We can wait to see what powers the dice saddle us with before deciding on our extra part. The power roll really decides what we "do".
Rolled 19 (1d100)>>47196338Shit, I dunno what we get.
>>47196408>>47196413Rat Pack should be kind of cute even if they're grimy. I liked their description as "Mighty 101 meet An American Tail".When they show up they should always have part of them doing something or building something. When they meet with the Statesmen at their base someone brings them a set of little chairs just to find they already assembled some from stuff raided from the kitchen. They should be busy, industrious little mice.
Rolled 38 (1d100)>>47196460Oh sorry. looks like i mistyped the roll earlier.
>>47196473Our origin is MATURITY"The hero gained his Powerssometime after reaching adulthood.Powers may have begun manifestingthemselves sporadically duringadolescence, or even childhood, but fullcontrol wasn't achieved until maturity.">>47196488I'll always forgive you Ms Cryptic.>>47196488>>47196473Huh. We actually roll for weakness before powers.ROLL 1D100 TO DECIDE THE NATURE OF OUR WEAKNESS
Rolled 80 (1d100)>>47196511Might as well use my late roll here. >>47196488Unless you wanna fresh die.
>>47196488>>47196517Alright, I'll conserve the dice.The nature of our weakness is ENERGY ALLERGY. We are weak to a specific form of energy be it heat, light, or radiation.The roll of 80 determines the SEVERITY of this weakness as INCAPACITATION.ROLL 1D100 FOR THE DURATION
Wait, what system are we using?
>>47196289I like this idea. Ymir's cow gives him super powers - a super strong skeleton, eyesight, teeth, strength, speedHe's still lactose intolerant though, so he gets sick after every time he saves the world
Rolled 63 (1d100)>>47196546
>>47196562I know, its a rather open-ended system isn't it? But I like how crazy it can get.We're using >>47194643
>>47196577Our incapacitation lasts a LIMITED DURATION after contact.So a certain form of energy knocks this guy out for awhile. That's his kryptonite.NOW we get to the fun tables.I need another 1d100 to decide how many powers and skills we roll.
Rolled 13 (1d100)>>47196590
Rolled 50 (1d100)>>47196590Hopefully with figuring out powers we can figure out weaknesses and the exact nature of the extra limb stuff.>>47196562We generally discuss all superhero systems. we're trying out the marvel one for a random generation thing.that said we did this earlier with Mutants and masterminds.
>>47196611>13It fucking followers me even outside my quests...2 powers, 1 talent, and 0 contacts.This poor bastard is incredibly low level. There's only one bracket on the "number of powers" lower than the one we rolled.Depending on what we roll for powers and skill he could end up a joke.>>47196618Marvel actually makes you roll twice-they list that many powers. Once for the "power class" and then again for the "power category"50 gives us "Matter Conversion". Things are looking up! Roll 1d100 for our power category, which will define exactly what "matter conversion" means.
Rolled 53 (1d100)>>47196654Livewire butt.
>>47196728Elemental Conversion! Nice!It's special. It has a little asterisk that indicates it counts as two powers for being so...powerfulOur guy can convert matter to one specific element of his.her choosing. He can turn a person into gold or silver or what have you.Roll 1d100 to figure out the POWER RANK (how far this ability extends or if its a touch thing)
>>47196801And go ahead and roll another 1d100 to decide how MUCH matter he/she can affect at one time.
Rolled 7 (1d100)>>47196801Hate to say it we might be getting some Kali vibes from this. Creator and Destructor. The change of one thing to the next.
>>47196822Alright, the range is limited to touch (magic extra hand?)Roll for how much can be affected at one time.
Rolled 45 (1d100)>>47196832
>>4719684120 pounds.(and there's no table for skills, but with 1 skill we can imagine this cape isn't very skilled at all)So in the end we have a cape who when he grew up grew some sort of extra part that allowed him or her to turn 20 pounds "per turn" (silly writers, shouldn't that be in molls?) of matter into whatever element he/she wants.So the conversion doesn't happen all at once. It's like a creeping effect.Weird character. Any idea how to build him up?Anyone want to roll another? We rolled up 5 characters with the MM generator and made a team out of them. Want to try to see what kind of unholy team we can make with Marvel?
>>47196886One can argue for some kind of Alchemy Baba thing going on.Though honestly it conjures more Holy Mountain Imagery in my head.
>>47196886>>47196917You know, we're under the assumption we're rolling up a team of do gooders.Whose to say the team we roll up with the Marvel generator isn't a team of bad guys?This one could be the muscle. An alluring Indian chick with a belly dancer outfit that grew one of Shiva's arms and one of Brahma's arms on her 18th birthday owing to some distant divine ancestry to give herself four arms. She's a professional assassin, when she touches a person with both her Shiva hand and her Brahma hand the person is "created into death", meaning they are killed by being transmuted.She specializes in ribbon dances, hiding her extra arms with them until she reveals them. If at a disadvantage she can throw handfuls of dust concealed in her sleeves, two handfuls of elements combining in the air to produce a flash of poisonous gas.She can choose either to leave no trace of her victim, causing them to vanish into a cloud or to leave a statue warning to others not to piss off her handlers.Growing up in the slums of Dubai (No skills remember?) she understands what it means to be weak and defenseless, and will only target the strong for assassination.Her name is "She who kills by creating". IS THIS GOOD?SHOULD WE ROLL UP A TEAM OF BADDIES TO FIGHT THE TEAM OF GOODIES WE ROLLED IN THE FIRST THREAD?
I collected the long descriptions of the statesmen into a pastebinhttp://pastebin.com/WzsU46kC
>skipped last four threads over the extended weekend>come back, see a metric ton of ideas slung aroundDaum guys, the whole team-making really took off.Were there any motions to catalogue and write it all down somewhere?
>>47196992She also loses her arms and falls into crippling agony when exposed to direct sunlight. So she has to hide in the shadows less like the image of a goddess and more like a big spider.She dearly misses the time when sunlight felt good on her skin.Why does sunlight do this to her? Because the sun was associated with gold in traditional alchemy. It was perfection. It was end result. She cannot transmute or tolerate the perfection that is pure sunlight, it interferes with her profane alchemy.
>>47197022>Fairy FinderDon't get me wrong, I think X-files meets Oz is a neat concept, very Vertigo comics like something from Sandman, but didn't we agree to drop her for someone else?Also, we need to pastebin the other stuff. Especially the Cape Japan stuff, that was really cool.
>>47197054Also, why is she an assassin when can just alchemy stuff?Because the thrill of the hunt and the kill is something material wealth cannot buy.
>>47197063Did we? who is the established kansas super?
>>47197063personally I like fairy finder because it presents a very consistent spiritual system as the black minister.
>>47197088There was some controversy:>>47194800>>47194983>>47195041>>47195134>>47195170>>47195255>>47195460Her creator seemed okay with dropping her because one guy didn't like her, but we didn't like, have a vote on it or anything.But we don't have a replacement lined up, no.
>>47197103i mean, I don't care either way. I don't have a horse in this race. But it seems to me that we've been doing first come first serve for all of the other heroes.
>>47197152Eh, okay then, keep Fairy Finder on.
VIRGINIA:Virginia DaringVirginia Daring is the Starfire/Meggan (the Excalibur one)/Ms. Martian/Cyclone of the team. She's the powerful, sexy girl that acts a little strange at times. She's thoughtful-something too thoughtful, and tends to ramble on to herself with her head in the clouds. She's very frank, and isn't afraid to tell others what exactly shes thinking. She's also very brave, and cannot tolerate a bully.Think Eilonwy from the Prydain series.She's marketed as a fun loving ditzy sex bomb, almost like a super Marilyn Monroe. She even has a line bikinis she models for (and even wears nigh-indestructible swimsuits into battle). Virginia has also used her image to market their beaches to tourists. But while friendly and outgoing she has her head in the clouds more from too much thought and less form lack of thought. She's very well read, particularly in the fantasy genre and has read from Tolkien to Dunsany to Borges. She can often be found in The Librarian's library bothering him for some sort of out of print Victorian fantasy book.She's a tall statuesque woman with a 10/10 figure across the board. Her skin is as white as snow and glows like silver. Her hair is long and crimson, and her eyes are bright pink without pupils. She is extremely strong and can fly, and can change her shape to appear as any kind of creature except with white skin/fur and glowing pink eyes. She adopted the name Virginia Daring in honor of the legend of Virginia Dare, the first colonist born in America to the Roanoke colony who legend has it transformed into a white furred doe.Where did Virginia Daring come from? How does she have these powers? She insists she just happened to develop them one day, and declines submitting her secret identity being very happy to have someplace to retreat to that's out of the limelight. Her state understands. Secret identity or not she has proven herself a hero countless times to her state.-cont
>>47197432She won election to the Statesmen in a close race against pulp legacy hero THE GASSER (who took up the mantle of 20's Virginia's "Mad" Gasser). Gas gadgets and the ability to transform into a cloud cannot defeat a super heroine fiercely proud of her body and having several steamy catfights available on youtube with villianesses such as the sand-woman and bully BEACH BABE and mischievous fire spirit and arsonist SPITFIRE.She likes knowing that her advertisers like her being on the Statesmen. She isn't too proud of her much-marketed image, but a paycheck is a paycheck and she appreciates it, whatever her civilian life may be. Things have gotten more complicated for her when FAIRY FINDER asked her "Do I know you?" She stated later that she was mistaken, but the damage was done. People believe Virginia Daring must have come from one of FAIRY FINDER's Fairy lands in the spiritual Earth. After all, could a "normal" super girl be THIS hot?She's forgiven the young girl, but her fans have never been as annoying as they are now. Now she's an "Unsolved Mystery". What IS her true origin? It certainly didn't help that her ad team ran with it, marketing her as "The Virginian Mystery Girl!"And the truth is she really is just a normal girl, who spends her civilian life taking care of her grandfather crippled beyond the help of modern super-medicine from one of the super-weapons used in one of the many, many alien attacks on Earth. She gets home and she paints her face and put in complex contact lenses and puts on a wig, and she steps out of her swimsuit and puts on a shirt and blue jeans. And she's happy for the few moments she has with her dad until its time to be weird again for the public.
>>47197036i think there are vague instincts towards cataloguing people's efforts, but only a few anons have the motivation to do it.
>>47197610I see. I think we should at least drop the threads into suptg before the built-in archive expires and they become unretrievable. Thankfully we still have at least a couple days before that happens.For the threads still up, lets see>>47063627 just general discussion and only first statblock rolled.>>47093356 M&M team is rolled up and starting the fluff. I think archiving should start about here.>>47104581 M&M team continued, drawfagging happens. Then the thread dives hard into the Hollywood Blockbusters team; then a bit of Vegas and other settings>>47137832, >>47162883 and the current >>47180960 which I'm yet to catch up on.Soo yeah that's pretty hefty amount of worldbuilding there.I'm definitely going to send it in. The question is, how to title it all?"Superhero General Worldbuilding"? (/shg/ would be mentioned in the description anyway)"Cape World"?
>>47197679Oh yeah, tags>worldbuilding, superheroes, supers, capesAnything else?
>>47197684(note that due to the way the search work, superheroes tag is picked up even if you search for "superhero" singular. Same for hero/heroes search and so on.)
(Lost the election for) VIRGINIA: THE GASSERBack in the 1920's the MAD GASSER was a hero in Virginia who used his slight telekinetic ability to create wind currents to aim and control his gas-based weaponry created through his knowledge of chemistry.His ghoulish appearance as a tall man wearing a WW1 gas mask and brandishing a flit gun or spray gun actually sparked a wave of mass hysteria with innocent people claiming to have been attacked indiscriminately by the "Mad" Gasser. His reputation became so bad that criminals he subdued with his gas weaponry would go free claiming the Mad Gasser attacked them.Eventually he was beaten up and captured by the CRIME BUSTERS CLUB and was turned over to police custody. He spent years in between trials before he was finally cleared of the charges by OSI to join the war effort. Chemical weapons treaties prevented him from being deployed as a bio-weapon, but he used his powers to help put out german firebombings over England.The MAD GASSER is often thought of as a "failed" cape, an example of why capes need to watch it when trying for the "grim avenger of darkness" routine. But his legacy was picked up in modern times by THE GASSER, a cape that arms himself with a high-tech spray device and back-pack reservoir light-years ahead of what his predecessor had. The gasmask however is non functional.Because the modern gasser does not need to breathe. Like DR GLACIER of the STATESMEN he is a "super ghost", a living circulation of air currents tucked inside his durable rubber suit. He cannot control air, but he can spray himself AS air and control that, blending and mixing chemicals together in his "cloud" for a variety of effects including explosions and creating suddenly solid barriers.Personality wise Gasser is...a gas. He cannot feel, taste, and he only sees through a vague "sense". But even though he no longer "hears" laughter, he recognizes it, and loves to hear it in others. -cont
MAINEGeorge BachmannBachmann is a foul mouthed, cynical sorcerer with a heart of gold buried deep underneath his hardened exterior. He spent years studying in The Librarian’s extra-dimensional library, and now uses his otherworldly knowledge to combat a variety of paranormal threats. He first came into the public eye after vanquishing a coven of vampires which had been terrorizing Cumberland County. Later, when the residents of the small town of North Haven were possessed by the malevolent spirits of a crashed UFO, Bachmann collaborated with the extrahuman in order to exorcise the aliens to the spiritual plane of their home planet. When the town of Little Tall faced destruction in a terrible storm, Bachmann struck a deal with the Devil and traded him the soul of a young boy for the town’s safety. Most recently he has been tracking the activity of a sociopathic cult leader named Randall Flagg, who seems to be gathering power towards some dark end.When Maine’s former representative Coon Cat retired fro the Statesmen, the grateful people of Maine elected Bachmann as his replacement. However, he has not appeared at any of the nationally organized appearances, and actively shuns the other members. He has gone on record referring to the Statesmen as “a sordid collection of has-beens and bureaucrats who can’t take a piss without congressional approval”.
>>47197782He likes parties, and he likes to entertain people with little "ghost tricks". He likes old comedies that have wit and humor he can think back to throughout his day. A little mental chuckle is almost as good as the real thing. He cracks jokes when he fights bad guys, using humor as a weapon.He doesn't mind that his voice sounds like a shrill cartoon character being the product of air currents scraping together to simulate speech. He doesn't mind that he looks like a big rubber balloon tied by a clown into the shape of a man. He doesn't mind the jokes about being called GASSER.He doesn't mind because people laugh, and when they laugh he can remember a time when he could laugh so hard it hurt.
>>47197814DELAWARE: FISHER-GIRLWas going to be Maine, but I got beaten to the punch. Just replace all mentions of Maine with Delaware.The answer to everyone that wanted a female foil for Waveracer.Before even the Black Minister began his violent crusade against crime the docks and shores of Maine were protected from smugglers, pirates, and all manner of outlaws by The Fisherman!The 1920's Fisherman was actually a family named (what else) The Fischers working together using the image of a invincible super hero to frighten criminals. The Fisherman appeared as a man in a yellow raincoat and boots, his face concealed with a black bandanna. Sometimes the Fisherman was portrayed by George Fischer, sometimes by his son Paul, and sometimes by his brother Mark. Regardless of which Fischer he was at the time the Fisherman was always the weakest of the weak in terms of powers and skills. The Fischers were fishermen, not combatants or masterminds. They fought crime through their knowledge of the coast and waters and with simple theatre illusions Mark Fischer read about in books. Their solution to an aggressive smuggler was to throw a net at him, and if that didn’t’ work through another net at him. Even back in his heyday the Fisherman was often the subject of jokes especially when compared to the bloody supernatural war of the Black Minister or the two-fisted justice of the Crime Buster Club. But they were loved by the little coastal town they protected. Some of the smugglers they apprehended even joined up with them, adding tricks and skills to the Fisherman’s arsenal. To this day the inhabitants of Maine say that no super, no matter how omnipotent, knows as much about the coast of Maine as the Fisherman.-cont
>>47197876oh sorry man, I wasn't trying to step on anyone's toes. you can go ahead and take Maine if you'd like.
>>47197876When WW2 broke out young Abraham Fischer was drafted. When OSI started seriously investigation anonymous vigilantes in an effort to tabulate how many metahuman fighters Uncle Sam had in his corner they found young Abraham, while without powers, was skilled enough in “guerrilla aquatic tactics” to be put in charge of a group of commando frogmen tasked with sabotaging German U-boat pens. So again the second Fisherman was not a single man but instead a US commando unit.Abraham Fischer’s son Peter Fischer grew up hearing stories about his father’s fight against the Nazis. His favorite was about the time his father and a few of his Fishermen boarded an advance German U-boat set on autopilot toward the world of phantom islands, The Mystic Archipelago. As he and his crew fought fiercely for control of the massive submersible they saw through the enormous observation windows that the clear blue water was filled with…dragons with bodies like brass pipes and wings like boat sails, cities made out of pink coral with glowing windows that pulsed like lungs filling with air, and best of all women-beautiful women swimming like fishes with skin only shades removed from the color of the water. They eyed the men locked in brutal combat with innocent, curious eyes that glowed like emeralds in sunlight.With such beauty and innocence and wonder watching them the men could no longer fight. They struck a truce and tended to their wounded and tried to establish communication with the women. They exchanged symbols, alphabets and numbers and words by drawing on the windows. One, whose eyes Abraham would see time and time again in dreams, locked eyes with him and drew three symbols on the window.Then the mighty German vessel lost its bearings in the mystic archipelago and in a whirl of waters and bubbles found its way back to German waters.
>>47197915The soldiers departed, the Germans in their vessel and the Americans in an escape raft. They could not bear to resume fighting after what they had experienced.The pre-war scientific community turned its attention to the stars, using astral projection to explore the spirit sides of the moon and Mars and Venus and other planets and places. The post-war community focused on accessing Earth's own spiritual side. It was as if barriers placed in front of man preventing him from accessing this side were beginning to erode, as if a great will that had resolutely blocked progress into the spirit of Earth suddenly had doubts (Atlanteans again keeping physical Earth and Spirit Earth separate)Peter Fischer was recruited by the earliest incarnation of ARGO to help lead expeditions into the mystical archipelago. Attempts to translate the writings of the water-nymphs had been unsuccessful. But now Peter was determined to know what it was the angelic woman wrote when she met his father's eyes.The Argo research vessel using unearthed Nazi research found a path through the physical oceans that lead to the mythical land of Thule. They found the land no longer innocent and peaceful. The WW2 voyage had frightened its leaders. They reacted with violence to the new arrivals, commanding the water itself to destroy the vessel.Many died when the vessel ruptured, but a few including Peter escaped in environment suits that would form the inspiration for AXEMAN'S earliest attempts at creating his DRYAD suit.The stuff of legends happened. Peter and his friends allied themselves with the Thule (ian?) daughter of the woman his father has seen, a brave woman that embraced rather than fear the unknown just as Peter did. Together they overthrew the corrupt Queen and the rulers of Thule. Together they began construction of a way to return to Earth and establish peaceful contact between Thule and the nations.-cont
>>47197891Are you sure? I don't need Maine to make it work, I just need water. We can both have our capes. I just want to make sure I can use Fisher-Girl on a state with coastline before we run out.
>>47198027If you are cool with taking delaware, then everything is good. I just didn't want to lock you out of your chosen state. Bachmann needs Maine in order to make the stephen king thing work, but he doesn't have to be on the statesmen. If you'd like we could tweak it so that Fisher-Girl is the official Maine hero
>>47186107Detroit is in Michican, silly man.>>47182121Illinois should have an undead gangster called The Registered Voter.
>>47198018They had a lot of time while the water-gate was being constructed. A lot of time to get to know each other and experiment.They both loved the unknown, remember?When they finally had a working water-gate between physical Earth and Thule they brought a little daughter home with them, half Thule and half Human.She wore a necklace of the three symbols Abraham saw, three symbols whose meaning her grandmother saw in the eyes of her grandfather before she wrote them. PEACE, IS THE DAUGHTER OF, COURAGE.Her Thule name incorporates these three symbols, but she finds it easier on the throat for people to just call her "Laura".She's apart of a legacy of explorers and peacekeepers, and her hybrid heritage has given her enhanced strength, speed, and a control over water itself that bests even Thule's greatest Aquakinetics. Her skin is a rosy pink color and her eyes a deep sapphire blue. Unlike other Thule, she has a head of black hair she's rather fond of, loving the way it whips around as she darts through the water. Also unlike other Thule her hands and feet are not webbed, but she has their pupil-less eyes.Waveracer sometimes teasingly calls her "Sea Monkey" because of her pink skin.She typically wears a bright yellow bikini or one piece to honor the legacy of the 1920's Fisherman, but sometimes switches to a more color-conscious dark blue set given to her as a gift from German fashion company UBER SPIEGEL. She proudly wears the name FISHER-GIRL to honor her legacy, and those that mock her choice of handle (usually Waveracer) feel her wrath.She's an adventurous, playful, sporty tomboy. Her best friend/enemy is WAVERACER, and the two constantly exchange flirtation and challenges. Their underwater races and sparring session are hot youtube videos and their desire to one up the other just makes them like the other all the more, much to their mutual frustration and excitement.-cont
>>47198163Illinois already has an undead gangster as it rep.>>47198114Alright, would it be cool if we have Bachmann be in the state but have Fisher-Girl the Statesmen?>>47198187Being aquatics they usually work together on missions under the oversight of STATESMEN Legend BLUE CRAB who finds their bickering and playfulness alternatively amusing and bothersome. He often has to play dad when the three of them work together.-Whew- I did NOT expect to write so much about Fisher-Girl!
I hope no one made a Statesman for Montana yet, and I hope this isn't too out there.MONTANA: Reverend Luther (or "The Reverend")Reverend Isaac Luther is a young-looking catholic priest of a small congregation in Montana, who claims his powers come directly from God.He is stronger, faster, and overall physically superior to a human in every way. There have been reports of him catching bullets shot at him and catching up to runaway cars on foot and overturning them.The truth behind his powers is that he was doing missionary work in Africa in the 1960s when he found a tribe of men hidden in a cave system. They claimed to be "guardians of god" and gave to him an ancient human-looking skull engraved with mysterious runes as a gift "from the first prophet to the last".It took him years to decipher any of the markings on the skull, having to work through hebrewic scriptures, sanskrit, and even ancient sumerian scripts, to work out that the tribesman had given him what he calls "the skull of Enoch". The first of the words he managed to decipher and work out how to say was "might", but as he uttered the word in the ancient language, his body changed. He was empowered by the word, and came to the conclusion that it must be the language of God.Since then, he doesn't look like he's aged one bit, and he has deciphered a few more of the words, but he refuses to utter any of them unless there is no alternative and he can be sure no one can hear him, because although the power behind them is great, every time he uses them he feels a little less human.He was voted as Montana's representative in the statesmen in the 90s after decades of crime-fighting, and people find that his youthful vigor hasn't diminished at all even after almost four continuous decades worth of heroism.The Statesmen themselves aren't quite sure how powerful the Reverend is, as he 'barely' won the Rugaru in arm wrestling, then proceeded to stalemate against Dr. Glacier with just as much effort.
>>47198229I like him! He could have some good interactions with the three god characters and Snakecharmer.And Montana wasn't taken, you got it.
Hey SHG, /co/ here.I don't frequent /tg/ much but me and a few people from /co/ do some "RP" like stuff with our own OC heroes and I'd like some advice on how to make a character interesting and create a good story?Specifically about street level guys and how they can keep up with godlike superheroes
>>47198283Thanks. I just felt like we were missing a "religious" hero in one of the most religious countries of the planet, so I thought "what about a super-strong priest?" and just went with that.
>>47198287Well, street-level guys like Rorschach are pretty much fucked if they're facing truly godly heroes like Superman or Dr. Manhattan.There isn't much that the street-level can do when he's facing a godlike, unless he knows the godlike's weaknesses (if he has any) and can fill in the gap there/exploit them.
As someone totally new to Superheroes as an RPG genre, what some good systems to run over IRC?
>>47198307excuse me for not checking if the correct term was hebraic or hebrewic when writing up a superhero.The point was still that he had to look up extremely obscure religious texts and decipher the language through the use of similarities between it and the ancient languages he was using.
>>47198287One very good way to balance things, if balance is needed, is to give the two wildly different objectives suited to their power levels.
I'll develop it in a little while, but if Alabama has not yet been taken I'd like to recommend >The Ashman, a drifter able to conjure and construct creatures and devices from any smoke he exhales
>>47198328>>47198312I your sessions, have you ever faced threats greater than your own and won through clever use of powers without the sounding like a deus ex or an ass pull?I'd like to get some ideas
>>47198405Well.. in my experience... not really.
NEVADA: ATOMIC COWBOYTsk Tsk thread. No cowboy?Inspired by Jack Kirby, Steve Dikto, and Terra ManEver been ripped from your comfortable 1850's homestead by some dude's time travel experiment conducted 100 years later on the same spot you had your house on?Cow Puncher Tod Garza was the victim of a experimental "time bomb" tested by the US government in the 1950's. The bomb was designed to "make the H-bomb look like a sparkler" and destroy "entities of an extra-dimensional nature that might prove invulnerable to conventional means".It vaporized him is what it did, all because the paperwork said nothing lived in the location for a hundred years.His spirit drifted through the cosmic aether, unstuck in time and space. He found himself faced with insane vistas of living emptiness, dimensions of fractured reality and sense, micro-verses and quasi-realities.He handled it like he handled everything in life. With yankee grit and ingenuity.Think Dr, Strange in the middle of one of his reality-warping deals subbed out for John Wayne.He brought peace to the seven whispering faces of Za-Tor. He left his name (but not his full name) in the silver book in the rainbow city of dreams. He defeated Death-Collector and liberated the micro-multiverse he fed on.He has no damn idea half of what the fuck he saw or did. He just took things as they come. If someone looked like they needed help he helped them. If they looked like an asshole he punched them. He's sure he fucked up quite a few times, but he also knows that he did some good things along the way.And eventually he found his way back to Earth and become an overnight sensation with his story and homecoming. He had rather hoped to have found 1850 Earth, but hey, it's just another strange place. He's seen weirder, except for maybe New York.He calls himself Tod, but the press call him ATOMIC COWBOY for his appearance. he looks like a bunch of colored lights scrunched together to make an image, -cont
>>47198449Like looking at a television too close. He looks like atoms glowing and vibrating together to make an image of a cowboy in a ten gallon hate.Tod is utterly unflappable. He's seen it all, and even if he hasn't he'll just react to it with the same shrug of the shoulders and acceptance he's used throughout his strange life. Tod's not sure if he's dreaming or if he's dead or if he's an alien with memories of being a cowboy or whatever, he doesn't see all that worrying as important. What IS important is action, and Tod Garza is a man of action.And the transformations his environment inflicted upon him have made him more than ready for action. His strange form can be dissipated through energy fields, but it always forms back. He has several senses but he "tries not to pay attention to them all otherwise I won't be able to find where -I- am in all the noise and such". He's armed with what appears to be two colt single action army revolvers but are instead what he says are "extra dimensional canons from a micro universe". They are capable of firing bullet-sized "planets" that can travel through dimensions as well as through time. He is also armed with what appears to be a shotgun slung over his back that fires "baby big bang buckshot" or what Todd calls "4b".It does in fact seem to radiate a destructive force of infinite energy over several feet like a shotgun burst. But scientists aren't sure exactly if it really is -that- powerful. The shotgun breaks all the instruments.Scientists don't like Tod. Unless they're New York scientists. They love him.Tod has shown the ability to alter molecular structure at will, but is loath to do so because "it's like pulling a petal off a flower. I can't put it back once I pull".Given his colorful, sudden appearance Tod was quickly voted the winner of the Nevada STATESMEN election, beating up five time winner COWBOY.No Atom, no win.-cont
>>47198534Tod admits he's mostly good for just shooting stuff, and mostly keeps to himself catching up on television until he's called to shoot something big and weird and dangerous. They call him to shoot something that looks like bad seafood that eats reality and craps insanity, he does so, and he tries to understand why everyone think he did something cool. He just shot a varmint. A big varmint is just a varmint.That's Tod Garza. "A big varmint is just a varmint".He's glad to find so many people that can relate to his weird, weird life in the STATESMEN. He's trying to organize a weekly poker game. He's also trying to find something to do with his powers that isn't blowing up universe eating monsters. He's envious of his fellow STATESMEN that are able to work "within" the world and change it while he just feels like a big scarecrow for big scary reality eating birds. He's talked to people like THE LIBRARIAN, FAIRY FINDER, AND AXEMAN, and they believe that in a few years he might be able to use his molecular powers with enough stability to shape matter like a C-class matter manipulator.Tod is looking forward to learning something useful.BASICALLY:Tod might be controversial because he's an OP bastard, but I wanted to kind of make a point about OP characters. Sort of Doctor Manhattan meets One Punch Man with that Captain Atom scene from Multiversity. Tod is good at killing Yog-Sothoths and Galactus's and not much else. He shoots good, but there's more to life and super heroics than shooting good.If anyone wants him gone I can drop him.
>>47198618He's honestly not that OP compared to a lot of comic characters. He's about Silver Surfer/Doctor Strange/Superman level really.If you want to nerf him a little make it so that his focus is attuned to "higher realities". He can fire his weapons at full power against things at these higher realities, but against lower level realities the shot is reduced to like , a laser blast.It's like being hit with the side of a car rather than the front of the car. Surface area and all that.So against stuff that's not fuck-huge powerful he's just an invincible shadowcat with guns that shoot through dimensions. Not too OP at all.Besides, I like the idea of him teaming up with ALIEN GOD KILLER. Magic Indian, Super Science Cowboy. Together they fight cosmic crime.Call them the DREAMCATCHER. They let the small stuff through for the little guys to deal with but capture and shred the living nightmares, just like how a Native American Dream Catcher works.Here's something trippy-what if they're both manifestations of a cosmic dream catcher that surrounds the universe and protects it from stuff that eats universes?
>>47198678Hmm. Yeah that sounds cool. I'm fine with Tod working like that if everyone else is.
>>47197432>>47197497I'm okay with Earth-born not-Starfire.
>>47198378Sorry, we already have Snakecharmer.>>47199203Thanks. I get nervous how my capes are received, I don't get a lot of feedback on them.
>>47198703There's some potential for cosmic storytelling with him. He didn't know what he was doing during his journey. Maybe he accidentally blew up a universe, and now he has to go on trial for it Trial of Galacuts/Trial of Barry Allen style?Maybe he gets the chance to go back in time and stop himself from ever becoming Atomic Cowboy and has to weight the good and bad of all that he's done.Maybe he attracts a cosmic threat to Earth over something he did during his travels? Maybe a race of energy beings worship him because of something wonderful he did that he didn't even know he did, and he's horribly embarrassed, wanting them to talk to him man to man not man to god.The Cosmic Dreamcatcher idea is cool. It reminds me how Grant Morrison cave the DC multiverse "built in defenses" like the Seven Soldiers.
Been at work, what did I miss?Wait, now we a re talking cosmic? You guys work fast.
>>47199552There are also a few earth-level capes, like not!Namor and not!femNamor, old man in a sub-crawler, grumpy demonologist, and 'Captain Christianity' (I'd love feedback on him, btw).
>>47197876>>47197915>>47198018>>47198187>>47198208Good shit. So she's a half-Thule aquatic hero with strength, durability, hydrokinesis, pink skin, blue pupil-less eyes, and a yellow swimsuit taking on the legacy name of Maine vigilantes?
>>47199597Captain Christiany? Color my interested. Link me the post and I try to give feedback. Can´t quarantee if it will be useful, though.Been working on a few cosmic things myself, like an nazi mond base and so on.
>>47199552People are filling out the rest of the Statesmen. Some have simply decided to go cosmic with their state hero.
>>47199654>>47198229Here he is. Of course his hero name isn't really Captain Christianity. That was just a little joke of mine.
>>47199654At this point, there's actually TWO Captain Christianities. Alabama has Snakecharmer, who speaks in tongues to use magic and summon snakes, and Montana has Reverend Luther, who became a human paragon (sans flight) bypossessing the skull of Enoch.
>>47199597By 'Captain Christianity' do you mean the Reverend? I like the 'words of power' idea behind his abilities, and that 'first and last prophet' thing should provide an interesting story line. How do you envision his relations with the rest of the Statesmen? I do think we need a third Christian hero, a Protestant one, to round out Snakecharmer's weird fringe Pentecostalism and the Reverend's Catholicism.
>>47199552A little, I guess it depends how much you like Atomic CowboyI'm also thinking about writing up a bog voodoo witch for Louisiana, but how water themed should she be? I'm thinking about making her the forth aquatic on the team and making her vodoo magic revolve around using water as a mirror-portal to the spirit world. She does stuff like summon the ghosts of Jean Lafitte's crew to give herself all their combined strength or to possess the water she's in.MADAM DELPHINE a good name?I want to make her a sultry southern belle that wears a prim and proper dress but can fling it all off in an instant to look like something from the other two pics and jump in the water. Maybe she sparks off a love triangle with Fisher-Girl and WaveRacer, if only because, in spite of being a heroine, she's also a vodoo priestess and delights both in chaos and in winning.>>47199640Yep! I'm rather fond of her, if only because she had a surprising amount of world building involved with her and established Thule as a kind of "beach head" for the Mystic Archipelago.>>47199684>>47199692It's very American to have two denominations of Christianity. Three if we count Deseret. USA is Christianland after all.>>47199655Well, the one cowboy on the American team should be a little OP. It's only proper.
>>47199692We have Utah's Deseret, but she's a Mormon.
>>47199714The other two pics being of course>>47188938>>47196355She goes from Delicious brown Scarlet O'Hara in a dress to Kida from Atlantis the Lost Empire when its time to fight. It helps her move in the "spirit waters"
>>47199673Can´t honestly say much, beyond tha the skill set and backstoy are interesting and give a off a mystery vibe off to me. Did he really get his powers from god or is he only convincing himself he did?
>>47199692I did mean my Reverend, yes.And I thought of the "words of power" thing when I was thinking about how a hero could claim its powers coming from god and thought about how often "the WORD" is mentioned in the bible.In addition, the idea is also that as he learns more of the ancient language of the Words, he can activate different buffs and effects, but they would leave marks on him and make him both feel and become less human each time. If he'd be reckless with the usage of them he'd slowly turn into a "biblical angel".. you know what I mean.And I think his relations with most of the Statesmen would be rather good, especially with the Librarian who would be interested in what all the notes in ancient dead languages that the Reverend has been studying for decades mean. Rugaru would probably not like being one-upped in his field of choice by "a mere human", some of the more sciency Statesmen would be curious about where his powers come from, and Alien God Killer would probably be on edge around him.>>47199761Well, he got his powers from words engraved on a skull preserved for him from "the first prophet" and kept safe by "guardians of God". It's a very elaborate plot of some cosmic entity if it isn't God... unless that's what 'He' is.
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So what states haven't got a Statesman yet?