Expanding the good-old homegrown lore of the Chimera Legion, your friendly everyday Obliterator Cult Warband.Previous thread: >>49546935Basic Rolls:>OrganizationLegion warband with cultists>Which legion?Iron warriors>Who do we worship and how much?Neutral devotion to Chaos undivided>Our beliefs?Gods above all >Our demeanor?Honor among thieves>Mutations?Voices of evil>Any notable figures?A chaos champion who ascended to daemon princehood>Homeworld?Fleet based>Combat doctrine?Unorthodox warfare>Special equipment?Biological experiments>Warband status?Slightly under strength>Why?A part of the Warband was assimilated by or was attacked by another Chaos-aligned entity.>Who likes us?Another chaos warband or lord>Who are our enemies?An Ork WAAAAAGH/warboss>What about minor Xenos?Some possibly exitinct Ayyyyylmaos AKA the Uluméathic LeagueSo far we've nailed them down as an Iron Warriors splinter group who worship the Obliterator Virus. They use bioterrorism, extensive body modification, a large core group of veterans-turned Obliterators, and an extensive cult following to eke out a living as mercenaries, selling their service to other warbands. They are led by Thodos, a Daemon Prince who seems to have mysteriously "mastered" the Obliterator Virus.Last thread we worked on the paint scheme for the legion, and heavily developed Thodos's character. Now I want to hear about the other members. A Chimera is made of many parts, together more powerful than than any one part. What champions have carved their names into legend? What deeds have stabbed to the hearts of our foes? Is anyone saving any of this?Let's find out together.
I'm continuing to work on my dude very slowly (I hate shading so much) that I made the lore for here >>49554605
>>49596104Current warband color-scheme, bronze on blue-steel with hazard stripes.
>>49596104>is anyone saving all of this?I sure hope so.
>>49596104First off we should go over the Warbands inner circle, the people who call the shots for the Warband when Thodos is in the warp. Let's make it a 5 man council, so they can vote on decisions without having a tie.In the first thread one anon cane up with an idea for a member of the inner circle called the Iron roost. It's basically a sentient ship filled with Heldrakes , Warp talons, and other flying monstrosities. Any thoughts?
>>49596104Just throwing some ideas out here:>The HoundmasterA marine who uses a pack of personally crafted Chaos Spawn to hunt his prey>The Word of Change(drawing on Voices of Evil) a warpsmith whose very screech causes mild mutations in those around him>The Tainted Coila small cadre of cultists engineered to explode into flaying tentacles upon death (needs a new name), but used for actual combat rather than suiciders.>The Funboxa loyalist Dreadnought that was infected with the Obliterator Virus. Now it slaughters its former allies, mutant flesh bursting from its cuboid frame.>The Hound of Thodosa massive Chaos Spawn, big enough to hold its own against a CarnifexSomeone last thread also mentioned an Imperial Knight Obliterator, that sounds promising.
>>49596262I reckon one of them needs to be an apothecary or a warpsmith. Possibly someone who'd been with Thodos since his loyalist days
Just for future reference OP, make a new thread once the old one reaches the bump limit, although I enjoy your zeal.I'll finish the piece that began with Thodos and the Hawk Lords, the second half focusing on his flaws and his hidden insanity. In it I will also explore his history, but leaving room for interpretation and the possibility of continuity errors simply being the effect of his insanity. Forgive slowness and spelling errors, it will be on mobile and done through through the night.
>>49596262The three major divisions of the warband are the scientists, the warriors, and the cultists.I vote on the council there should be at least:>a head Warpsmith,>a "shepard" of the cultists,>the Warpsmith primarily in charge of the Obliterators (may be the same as the head Warpsmith),>a champion of the warriors who have yet to become Obliterators,>and the head negotiator/guy who tracks down contracts for the warbandWe can have more or less, or merge some of these jobs, but these are the jobs I believe deserve a spot on the council.
>>49596262Should we determine the different council heads based on different roles? Like warpsmiths having greater presence or authority? Would we even be using like dark apostles if we aren't really about worshipping chaos?
>>49596375>The Tainted CoilBit Slaaneshi, there, isn't it?
>>49596220Are hazard stripes only on the right leg, if not are they randomised or used to help decide squad markings. It could also be where they've been infected with (but not neccesrsily successfully) with the obliterator virus
>>49596262There should definitely be a Warpsmith on the council, like the head scientist of the Legion.I'm thinking almost a Fabius Bile type of guy. He probably has some kind of complex about obsessing over the Obliterator Virus, but being too afraid to infect himself.We should remember that any Obliterator besides Thodos is going to be very simple-minded. The Iron Roost isn't going to be holding complex conversations with anybody. I think it gets a pass for the Council because it's so powerful, but any other members should either not have the virus, or have a damn good excuse for still being sane.
>>49596432Same as however the hell the IW use them.
>>49596429I did say it needed a better name. It was just the only one I could think of.
>>49596414We worship chaos undivided, but our parent legion the iron warriors don't like to daemonify vechiles.What I'm getting at is do we want WarSmiths, WarpSmiths or just corrupted tech marines
>>49596412Why would a cultist be on the council? The astartes don't give a shit about their followers wellbeing, why do you think they would give them a say in the high command?If he was on the council, I imagine he'd be bullied around by everyone else on the council.
>>49596562Probably just propaganda, going 'look we're super humans and we still look after the little guy so join us in the insurrection'. But yeah he probably just brings tea and biscuits to the meetings, and has been slapped so many times he's more so a servo skull on a body than a human
>>49596484I don't think we daemonify vehicles, and warsmith as far as I understand it, is just a leadership rank, not a specialized role. Warpsmiths are Chaos Techmarines. Is there a name for Chaos Apothecaries? Could there be a Warpsmith on the Council who deals with the Obliterators, and a Chaos Apothecary dude that deals with the body mods and chaos spawn and stuff?
>>49596562>>49596588I'm thinking more of a Marine who liasons with the cultists, working with the cult leaders and reporting to the council. He's probably in charge of propaganda.
>>49596562No, no, no. I meant a shepard of the cultists. The top marine in charge of organizing and ordering the Flesh.Basically the Chaos equivalent of a runtherd.>>49596601 Warpsmiths are catch-all mad scientists. They're usually techmarines, but a few of them were likely former apothecaries.
Here's just my two centsThere are basically three parts to the legion The Marines>Fighting forces, working as Special Forces/Force Recon to the main force>Inner council, sorcerers, ancient veterans, acomplished warpsmiths...etc>The Labs, Bioengineering, Cybernetics, and Daemonforging etcLegion army>Essentially a traitor guard forceLegion cult>Dispensable retards and free infomercials
>>49596375Maybe make the writefag sargeant from the last thread into the houndmaster?
>>49596629How about a failed aspirant who the prince took a liking to, and so he'll have some marine organs but not all, so be S4 but T3 still
>>49596650I like this, but we have to remember that the Chimeras at upper echelons are a lot less dogmatic than other warbands. They are a PMC, or like the Taliban. People like to pretend that the taliban fights in the name of Jihad, but in reality they're just the world's largest Opium cartel.Chaos is something they subscribe to because it makes them rich and powerful, but not necessarily safe.
>>49596388I like that. How about the head of the council being a warsmith that served as Thodos' right hand man when he was human. Maybe his name and title could be Arlek the Ironchosen?
>>49596650I pretty much thought the Legion Cult and the Legion Army was one and the same. Like, they'll take Guardsmen and use them for fighting, and take random dudes and use them for free cannon fodder, but essentially it's the same cult.
>>49596601Warsmith was just the iron warrior term for warband/grand company leader, but being an iron warrior he would know how to repair vechiles. WarpSmiths are more than just corrupt techmarines, they mainly make daemon engines. How about captured techpriests make the normal vechiles and WarpSmiths make the rest Yeah it is really annoying how we can't actual field chaos apothecaries. But yeah, one medical officer, one vechile officer, one army officer, and one cultist officer. That sounds good, but what about an artillery officer as that's one of the big IW things, and brings it to 5, or do we just rely upon teleporting obliterators to break open fortifications, along with mutilators for the more armoured inhabitants
>>49596692Maybe a human that served as some kind of spymaster, covering Thodos' ass. He's loyal to a fault to Thodos, who eventually rewarded him for his competence by making him a marine. The rest of the Chimeras don't like him, but his skills as a spymaster/Right hand man has kept him relatively safe.Or he could just be a fellow iron warrior from the dispute of iron.
>>49596660I actually wrote that. They're definitely connected, but I like the idea of that story being between two regular members of the Legion. So I'd like to use a different character.
>>49596759I feel like that's more of a Primarch thing, turning loyal humans into marines once the Emperor found them. Why would a regular Iron Warrior be friends with a human/have the authority to recruit an adult, when they usually pick adolescents?
>>49596692Codifying Arlek the Ironchosen as head of the council and right hand to Thodos.Question: is he a warpsmith who oversees all the mad science of the warband more personally, or is he a WARsmith who's another exceptional leader, but not necessarily a scientist?
>>49596803Stop saying Codify, its unnervingalso 1d4chan page WHEN?Then we can track our progress and see what we need to do.
>>49596798Thodos is the prince of the band, he can do whatever he wants, also chaos are known for just picking people to implant geneseed in as they can't guarantee they'll have healthy 10 year olds to pick from. I don't think Honsou was young when he got implanted
>>49596825After finishing my white dwarf scanning tommorow I'll start on a page if no one else has done so
>>49596262I've realized I've made a mistake in just saying "hey we need an Inner circle, get on it" so for the sake of saving time let's go through the inner circle in an orderly fashionFirst off: Every inner circle needs a head, someone to keep everything other member under control, who should that be? I'm personally like the Arlek the Ironchosen Idea from >>49596692
>>49596825That's a good idea!Too bad I don't know how to make one
>>49596827I still can't see Chaos Marines respecting regular humans enough to be anything more than servants. Having him be an actual Warsmith seems much more likely and easier.>>49596825Has anybody here done any editing on 1d4chan? On any wiki? Because I haven't.
>>49596855Arlek the Ironchosen, the warsmith responsible for what Thodos is today. Far before the Horus heresy, these two were friends. Thodos was a sergeant and Arlek was a Techmarine. At some point after the heresy, Arlek was the one responsible for exposing Thodos to the Obliterator virus. He is the only one other than Thodos that knows the dark truth: His condition can never be replicated, and the warbands existence is based on a lie.Basic idea, I'm on my phone so I'm not writefaggingY/N?
>>49596855Definitely. Do you think he worships the Obliterator Virus but knows he can't get infected, for the good of the Legion? Or is he forbidden from it?Or does he have no problem with it, and is proud to act as Thodos's commander in the materium?Or does he secretly resent Thodos and the Obliterators, but knows that they're necessary to the Legion's success?
>>49596927I really like the idea of him sharing the secret with Thodos
>>49596803I'd say he's a bit of both. He's good at keeping certain people (Like his fellow smiths) in line and on track, but he lacks Thodos' charisma.Also I remember something from one of the earlier threads about how the Warpsmiths seemed very Slaaneshi. Maybe that's a regular problem that some smiths will start to tend less towards undivided and more towards Slaanesh (leading to an immense drop productivity as they try to give the Obliterators dick guns rather than focus on the problem at hand), so maybe that's part of Arlek's job. He gives those smiths who wander too close to the edge a little nudge back into the territory of undivided.
>>49596979Yea, my idea was he would intentionally sabotage the rest of the legions attempts to work towards it, and try to encourage them to work on other stuff.
>>49596956I think whereas Thodos had high ideals (evil ideals, but still), Arlek should be more corporate-minded and interested more in using the warband's strengths for power and profit. Sort of like a less stupid Starscream, he's an asskiss to Thodos whenever he actually shows up.
>>49596979>>49596927I agree with the secret idea, this could help lead to future civil wars, also if we like the spymaster idea we could have him blackmail IronChosen about this fact. Or what about IronChosen trying to build up his own bodyguard with Thodos' strain but keeps on failing, perhaps IronChosen kills all the servitors and erases all knowledge of his failed experiments so he stays in the limelight, and the vast body toll is what makes the spy master learn about the secret. I know we're iron warrior descendants but do we maybe want chimera geneseed as stopgaps, this way we could have the spy master be maybe part Raven guard or alpha legion
>>49596985>"Alright guys, what's the latest on weapon development?">"Well, there's one project we're very excited about. It's this massive lascannon drawing power from these two spheres down at the end-">"Goddammit you guys! Enough with the dick guns! I've got enough problems with the guys down in biotech making rapemonsters with dicks for eyes!"
>>49597060Definitely chimera geneseed.A) We're mercenaries, we'll take any defectorsB) We're desperate enough to rob loyalists blind of their internal organs whenever we canC) It's in the name, come on!
>>49596262We already have a sentient ship and a ship that holds the heldrakesNavaros, Dauntless Mind and the Bloodied Roost respectively. THIS is why we need to start consolidating data and set up a page. There's lore from the Hua Yuan pages that to this day hasn't made it to the wiki
>>49597060We should focus on Arleks personality for the most part now, since I'm pretty sure most of us have agreed to make him a warsmith in charge of keeping the legion together.I'll put the spy master idea in the next message I put to start the brainstorming for a second councilmen.
>>49597095Apart from the sentient ship and the roost, do we have any proper ships, normal astartes cruisers, repurposed cargo vessels that deliver cultists whole sale in boarding parties, any space hulks that are guided somehow or repurposed
>>49597095The Dauntless mind was what I meant I just mixed the names up. But I agree we should create a 1d4cahan page ASAP, lest all our work on the legion disappears or gets changed
>>49597131It can be assumed that they do Have A fleet
>>49597131Quoting the first page here>>>Pride of Thodos -Capital ShipAn extension of the Will of Thodos this monster ship no less beast than steel, warp energies signing and pulsating betwwrn shifting plates of metal and flesh, a breathing knife to tear the void.>Other notable ships in the fleet>Typhon's TreasureOne of the largest ships in the Chimera Legion's fleet, dwarfed only by the Pride itself.>Riddle of Steel>Perfection Saught>Rage of Echindna >The Crucible >Navasor, Dauntless MindAn insidious amalgamation of Abominable Intelligence, tortured machine spirit, and Daemon Engine, this Malevolent engine is possessed by many a fallen marine>The Bleeding RoostEssentially an amalgam of the corpse of Void Whale and a small Space Hulk. This huge gutted abomination carries the flocks of Raptors and Warp Talons that follow Thodos and also contains nests of demon engines within its screaming hallways and twisting innards
>>49597131I'd like to think they have a Space Hulk or two that they keep as hideouts, but they wouldn't exactly be able to fly them in a fleet. Besides the super-Obliterator-flagships, I would think they'd just have regular Chaos warships
I've never made a 1d4chan page, but I can try to in an hour when I get home. Might need help organizing it but that's about it.
>>49597418I've worked on the Hua Yuan pages for over a year. As long as you set it up and build a loose draft I can help build it up later
>>49597010I agree that Arlek should be a little more capitalist than Thodos, but I'm not sure about the asskiss part. That would imply that Arlek doesn't feel safe in his position and feels the need to suck up to Thodos to maintain it. For two people who've worked together for so long that would be something of an odd relationship.Unless it's a more recent thing. If the Thodos Arlek once knew begins to fade away, he might grow uncertain of his position and develop into an ass kiss then to ensure it remains his. Either way I don't like the idea of him always being an total suck up.
>>49597740Even then Arlek could just tell the whole legion that Thodos was one in a million and they have no idea how to replicate what happened to him and they'll most likely either rebel or disband
>>49597010While I don't agree with making him a starscream, I think making him more profit oriented is the way to go. I think it would be better if he was the guy who had to tell Thodos that yes, while razing the surface of that astartes homeworld that banished you to the warp would be an excellent display of force and make loyalists think twice before attacking us again, we don't have the resources to mount a campaign of that scale.Thodos was just a sergeant in the iron warriors. I think he's inspirational and good at enacting a plan, but he can't be assed with battle plans, managing expenses and negotiations. That's all on Arlek, and Thodos typically defers to him on those matters.
>>49597773And stop this wild money train? Fuck that.Besides, we stripe away the Bioengineering, the augmentations, the Daemon Engines, what are the Chimeras?Profesionals in a an organization that revolves around a steady paycheck and trust.They follow Thodos because they trust him. Thodos chooses this inner council because he trusts them. Remember, he founded this legion because he looked at every other warband and found them lacking
>>49597819Arlek The Iron Accountant
>>49598055Hey you don't wanna fuck with the accountant
>>49598091Arlek wouldn't let me in the first place. He's trying to avoid falling to Slaanesh
>>49598091I agree with this angle, I'm liking it.
I feel like this question keeps coming up: Do we make Daemon Engines?I feel like we should have some, but we don't really produce them. The Chimera Legion has enough on its plate with the Obliterators and the biological warfare, we don't need to deal with trying to force daemons into cans.
>>49599255We have some daemon engines. No warband should be completely without a few daemon engines. Ours ARE probably a little meatier than most, either because we made them or modified ones we bought. But we do not make them as a major part of our productions, they're just there because they're useful.
>>49599255I believe the consensus has been while we have them, they're not something we specialize in. Our work is more towards our bio-experiments.
>>49599345Also, should we make a rule: we may buy and sell many commodities, but we only RENT OUT Obliterators. If you're buying our Obliterator services you're basically just buying mercenaries, the Oblits are OURS in the long run.
So we've come to an agreement on the head of the warcouncil, Arlek the Ironchosen/accountant. We've also agreed that he was Thodos best friend since before the Heresy and he knows about Thodos' secret. In the legion he mainly concerns himself with keeping the Warsmiths undivided and how the legion turns a profit.Now for the councils second member, it can be anyone really, one anon suggested the idea of a spymaster, and another suggested a Tzeentchian sorcerer, who could be their advisor on daemons and the like. Any thoughts?
>>49599730I say we need like a Dark Apostle or somesuch who's job it is basically to keep the droves of cultists in line.
>>49599786That honestly sounds like it could work. Or at least someone who pretends at being one - not a true believer, but is skilled at inciting fanaticism and mania in the cult that makes them more earnest at being bullet-sponges on the front lines.>>49599730I think for one previous story-time there was mention of a cabal of sorcerers that could be consulted as to get an idea of future events?
>The Five Heads of the Chimeric Inner Circle, Lords of Chaos All.>Arlek the Ironchosen>A mentor then close friend and confidant to Theodorus during the Heresy Arlek accidentally exposed his friend to the Obliterator Virus and sent him down the path to Princedom. Within the legion he manages the forges and factories of the Legion. His role as liason to the Dark Mechanicus allows him to manage the finances of the legion with ease, his mechanical mind suited to such work.>High Commander Silas Warpshriek>A raptor of exceptional clarity and shrewd cunning, Silas is Thodos' military right hand man, overseeing deployment, recruitment, and campaign operations of the Chimeras. Like a son to Thodos, Silas is fatalistically loyal to Thodos, and has learned much of commanding troops under his lord.>Archanon, (Can't really think of a good title for him)>Undisputed master of the attendant sorcerer covens, the wizard offers cryptic council and mysticism to an otherwise business-like committee. The sorcerer is oft untrusted and begrudgingly listened to.>Orphaeus Paraphron, High Fleshshaper>As the Ironchosen commands the crucibles and forges of the legion so does Orphaeus oversee the precious Chimera laboratories. From the development of new viruses to the perfection and application of mutagens, Orphaeus lords over it all. Sometimes he will trade with other lords of the craft, like Eldar Haemonculi or the Venerable Fabius Bile to further his own research.>High Prophessor Tianakles>Held in the esteem of Thodos for his skills of Oration and control Tiankles is the father of the Chimeric Cult, the thousands of cultists ready to die for the legion falling under his direct supervision from his great pulpit.
>>49600378I love it, combines all the aspects of the legion quite nicely
>>49600378>Archanon of the Steel Soul
>>49600378LeaderGeneralSeerScientistPreacherI think that IS all our bases covered. I quite like Warpshriek. Odd that he'd be a raptor, but it does mean he can deliver orders, attack, and escape faster.
>>49600574Thodos is the Leader, Arlek is the Master of Forge, while the five lead as a quintumverite when Thodos is in the warp. We can't grow bolters or rhinos. Yet. We still need someone to bolt on the rivets of thunderhawks and weld together broken plate.But everyone has a purpose when not deployedArlek manages materiel and resources as well as the legion's economy. Both Silas and Tianakles monitor new blood, and they manage their respective men. Orphaeus runs any relevant RnD and Archanon does...wizard stuff
>>49601184Archanon hides in his room and gets high on off-time.Also not to crimp anybody's style but I think we might need to rename Tianakles. I keep reading it as "Tinkles".
>>49601272>Tinkles Shh, you'll remind him of his highschool bully
>>49601285>>49601272His CHA was far too high to get bullied. Now ArchAnon on the other hand...HE sits in his barge shitposting on WarpChan for sure
>>49600378>>49601352>Archanon, [Insert Title Here]it's a little difficult to title him based of IW as IW don't have any fluff on psykers as far as I can research. Maybe their augments it nigh impossible for psychic ability to manifest, or maybe Warpsmiths serve a duo role of it, or maybe like the World Eaters, they just got phased out. idk call him Meltabrain or something, after all there's a Warpsmith called Vhostok Pistonhand
>>49601713>IW don't have any fluff on psykers as far as I can researchscratch that, Pistonhand did use sorcerers to summon daemons to bind for him to bind. Just thought of an (probably lame) idea for a title for Archanon>"Copperhead" (or something along those lines)conductor of warp energies, and not to highly valued. maybe that's just what others call him to make fun of him. >aww wittle Archanon is being bullied by the other boys
>>49601352>>49601713Archanon is the kid you make sure you sit with at lunch at least once. Cuz one day he's gonna be sick of everyone's shit and summon a bloodthirster or something. You wanna get that warning.
I had the thought that one of our Warpsmiths is pretty much Cave Johnson.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLmiknX8bFIAt one point he decide to improve the Obliterator virus by grabbing an entire moon from a demon world, grinding it up and mixing it into the virus and then injecting himself with it. Take a wild guess how well that went
>>49602219>Why is so much of our science dangerous? Why not marry safe science if you love it so much. In fact, why not invent a special safety door that won't hit you on the butt on the way out, because you are fired.>Not you, cultist, you're doing fine.>Yes, you. Box. Your stuff. Out the air lock. Warp. Daemon. Goodbye.
>>49599255We have a roost of heldrakes, so we definetly have them, the question is are they just attracted to us for some reason or are they just leftover engines that we captured from raiding other warbands
>>49599255>>49603180I remember something about most of the Daemon engines just being either really powerful Obliterators or multiple Obliterators fused together with some armour hammered on for good measure.but if we don't like that idea they could be gifts/payment from other warbands for services rendered. The Chimeras might not like to make daemon engine but they won't look a gift-fiend in the mouth
>>49600378Am I the only one who thinks Tinkles should have a retinue of Pseudo-chaos spawn. He always has a very specific number of them (say, eight) and if one dies it is quickly replaced. These replacements are always Cultists who've distinguished themselves in battle, or at least they used to be.
>>49601918>You guys are alright, don't go to The Crucible tomorrow
>>49600378>Arlek accidentally exposed his friend to the Obliterator Virus and sent him down the path to Princedom.I blame the fact Theodorus shared a bologna sandwich with him.
>>49601786Copperhead could work. Don't have any alternatives.
Any update on the 1d4chan page for the Chimera Legion yet?
>https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Chimera_LegionBecause no one else could be bothered. Do we want to vote things in, or edit it until one side backs off
do we have a war cry yet
>>49608150Vote on we stuff. I think most of the stuff we have so far is more or less agreed on.
>>49608185The general "For Thodos!" And "The flesh is weak before the forge"
got the sidebox and main page, someone else take the helm. If you don't want to edit the page just post notes from the other threads we've had and agreed upon
>>49608185>>49608489I think that, whatever their battle cry is, it's not heard that often. Like, for the actual marines (The cult spews that shit a little too much) there are only two situations in which they'll let slip the crys of war. 1: They think it will provide them with some sort of tactical edge or 2: They don't know if it will provide them an advantage, but they're being so violently fucked that they might as well give it a shot
>>49608150Vote dude holy shit. Stawpoll is king here
>>49608347>>49608548I agree w/ these two. voting is best idea
>>49608595cool.So what shall be the first matter we decide upon, the Warpsmith's name?
>>49608525Well I suggested that our Cult has the adage of "BEAT! BEAT! AND BEAT AGAIN!"
>>49608640yeah but that doesn't sound as cool, and also we're undivided leaning towards Slaanesh, so unless it's 'Beat it, Just Beat it' then it dosen't make much sense
>>49608833the guy in charge of obliterator research
>>49608874Is that the one who infused a sample of the virus with Warpstone and then injected it into himself, or is it someone else?
>>49608874a few names were thrown out here and people seemed happy with them>>49600378
>>49608525I'd like to add a possible addendum that they can also use it right before a coup de grace on a defeated opponent, or right before unleashing a secret weapon or tactical maneuver, or just a big ol' can of whupass. Not a loud cry, just quiet and smug: "The flesh is weak before the forge."
>>49608910is warpstone even canon in 40k
>>49608910Not the Cave Johnson guy, that's just a random warpsmith.
>>49608915I'm all for those names, I like what this guy >>49600470 was thinking: Archanon of the Steel Soul
>http://www.strawpoll.me/11350985Do we want a bloc of text in 'Organisation' detailling each members roles, or just the name for now, and then we put the bloc of text in a 'notable characters' section
>>49608928I like this. I really like this
Anyone want to insert a image of the colour scheme in, or list it in the side bar
>>49609150Don't really know why we need to vote on it but okay
>>49609150>>49609426I think we can trust someone to do the basic page organization. Either way, this vote's unanimous so far, I think it's fair to say we want Notable Characters
>>49609495>>49609498>>49609426This seems like it's gonna be super slow. Would we be able to have one person make a first draft, and then we vote on any problems we have with it? Would that work?
Compiled most of the write faggotry for whenever the page needs it. Don't have the first one of the hive siege though.https://docs.google.com/document/d/16l51KKKLCBKr6gdUx5fpAqFpepxRr9mN76mguVx3MgE
Just wondering how many of us have 1d4chan accounts, and how many will actually edit the page
>>49609664I have an account and I would but I don't really know how to use the tool. Kind of afraid of blowing up everything.
>>49609039I like High Seer ArchanonOr Achanon the Viper
>>49609857I like the idea that his official Title is "High Seer Archanon", but most of the marines just call him "Archanon The Viper" (when he ain't around to hear them at least). Maybe because of a few mutations he's gained which make him look a little more reptilian than his fellows.
Welp, I did it, I started a thread that lead to the creation of a page on 1d4chan. Do I win a /tg/ now? All hell, the sense of fulfillment is good enough for me.
>>49609664>>49609735I just made an account, but I've got the same problem. Absolutely no wiki-editing experience.
post screen caps of the article, I could have sworn I saved the page when I had started copy pasting the character bios but I can't see was posting on PC earlier, and should be asleep but phone posting
>>49610289Neither did I when I made the page, but this is how I worked stuff out >chimera legion page >chimera legion page in edit format >another chaos warband page eg Crimson slaughter>another chaos warband page eg Crimson slaughter in edit, so I can see the code
>>49610347Alright, I'll give that a try.>>49610316Nothing changed really. Dunno if it takes time or what.
Anybody mind if I put my Echidnus dude on there?>>49554605
We should probably have a separate section for the Council, then one for notable other characters.
>>49610494As long as you edit in the quintumvirate descriptions first
>>49610509They're the first listed after Thados, and are referenced in the 'organisation' as being the council Also what sort of culture do we want with our people, if we wanted a distinct one that is, like how ultramarines give Roman names, and space wolves have Norse names, or do we want a hodgepodge to further the 'chimera' aspect
>>49610689Hodgepodge based on what legion they came from. We'll take from anywhere as long as they swear loyalty to Thodos, kinda like the Black Legion.
>>49610689Their names can be whatever really, they take their recruits from anyone who can pay them
>>49610494He could probably be the High Shaper's pet, or at least part of the retinueLike Thanquol and Boneripper
>>49610753>>49610784Fair, foreign marines could be payment, taken as tributes, defected to our side because of our dark apostles great sermons just imagining two dark apostles sitting down on a TV show like Dawkins debates as they try to woo the Hive World into defecting to their side. The nobility then blow up the transmission towers to stop the broadcast of heresy, but the lower classes rise up whilst the marines raid, as the transmission towers are broken so no help can be sent. However they are then later re-erected with the still living former nobility being used to hold it together whilst it broadcasts heretical sermons to the next sub sector
>>49610893That's kinda word bearers territory. The most we'd do is seed cultists into the hive and have them all suicide bomb or turn into chaos spawn mid-siege.
>>49610866ehhh, I kinda like him more as just a particularly badass Obliterator. Like, the Council might be like "hey, is that that Echidnus dude? Damn, he's got a lot of weapons", and that's like, the most interaction they have.
>>49610893That needs to be a thing now, even if not for our Legion.>"While my opponent raises a valid point on the values of love, acceptance and resignation to the inevitable, I'd like to remind viewers that he is, quite literally, a fat stupid rotten piece of shit.">"I hardly think name calling is a legitimate argu-UURP, excuse me, aAAABLUUURGGHHHAAHaaah, ah, ah, aAABLURRRRGH-">"Ooh, well, until the debater can scoop his intestines off the floor, let's hear from our outside opinion. What say you, tied up and gagged Commissar?">"MRRRRRPHGGG!! HHRRRRPHSSHHHYYY!!">"Fantastic. We'll be right back, and remember, Blood for the Blood God."
>>49611312That or dark apostle and genestealer magus
Can we get a drawfag to make some art of the inner circle? Doesn't have to be individual art it can just be them debating at a circular table. Though individual art would be appreciated
http://www.mediafire.com/?zm71nli980zr97hLatest white dwarf holds some design points on the old chaos Lord models that you might want
>>49611543We should sort out wargear first surely, if not weapons then unique modifications to armour
>>49611795Sorry, which page is it? I can't really find it
>>49611990Page 51 in book, page 53 of the scan
>>49596220Color scheme for the 1d4chan page
>>49612053Oh man, that's actually super fucking cool. Are there any other ones that have stuff for character design like that?
I don't think we need to say that they look at Daemon Engines with "scorn". They'll use them, and I don't think they mind much about using them. They just don't make them themselves.
>>49612636They have literally no opinion about them except "Ok I guess."
>>49612685>>49612636Just like chaos spawn or hacking off a limb for a robot one with a lasgun in it, or injecting flubber for a crab claw and night vision eyesAn impressive one will illicit the same amount of respect an awe a Baneblade would from an Astartes, so this translates most often into "Damn. That tank's frikken sweet, bro."
Since there is such a divide between the Chimera Legion and the cult, should we roll them up for inspiration?
>>49614354I think we've got a good enough idea of what their deal is that we don't have to.Just looking at the tables now,>Warrior Brotherhood>Forbidden Worship>Central Figure/Council (Thodos, the Inner Circle, or Tianakles)>Demagogue>Charisma/Dark Cameraderie>Extensive Body Modification/BeastsTokens of Allegiance (?)>Power>Flesh Twisting>Chaos Undivided
>>49608680>leaning towards SlaaneshWe're undivided leaning towards Money keep your magical realm out of this fucking warband
>>49614946Hell, the only reason we got Archanon to swear himself to Tzeentch was we promised him a pay raise and a private study.
>>49614930Follow-up,the more Military side of the Cult, using Lost and the Damned creation tables:>Imperial Guard/Militia Cultist (we'll take whatever we can get)>Regiment Demographic (N/A)>Regiment Homeworld (N/A)>Infantry>Shock and Awe>Fanatical>Augmented Troops>Esoteric Beliefs (like Steel Over Flesh, but referring to body modification)>Chaos Warband>Ork Waagh/Warboss
Oh no! I've Scattered into the thread next door!
>>49615228It will happen sometimes if you go too fast.>white scar wink
How attached are we to Orks as enemies? I feel like we need something with a little more emotional weight behind it for an archenemy
>>49616012We've committed many genocides, we just like the Orks for their plentiful supply of practice targets and their curiously adaptive nature.We could maybe have a loyalist marine hero/chapter trying to both cut their way through hordes of Orks who want a good fight, and the hordes of cultists and chaos spawn we sick on them, desperately trying to get at the Legion command. But if we do something like that I say it should be an existing chapter and not another homebrew we need to think up.
>>49616012Well we haven't really put into thought into our archive enemies yet so don't rule them out just yet.We could say that it's a WAAAGH of Oris that heard the was a band of "Spikey Umies that's got a load a big fleshy gits and they crumped a buncha the regula umies" and they've set out to pick a fight with them
>>49616012What do you mean by emotional weight?
>>49616290We have this strong character of Thodos for a leader, charismatic, tactical, powerful, insane, and this Legion founded on the promise of rising above petty conflict and creating true brotherhood amongst the ranks. This ideal was forged in the Heresy, the Dispute, and all the pointless battles and petty conflicts between. This legion isn't jusy edgy space knights chopping off their dicks and arms to replace with chainsaws and robo claws and mutating their arms and legs into gribbly messes and animal parts to murderrape innocent people because it's funny. The Chimeras are Bad Guys in an evil faction trying to do the best they can for themselves and eachother, because everyone else on Team Chaos will murderrape their closest friend to get ahead. Granted they still lop of arms and legs for robo parts and gribbly messes.Now I think guys like that deserve a foil, an enemy with character. Whenever they meet its not a simple matter of business or purging heretics. Sparks should FLY. I feel a Loyalist chapter would be better, or even a chaos one. Either way, every fight between them should be emotionally charged, and I feel the Orks are too NPC race or silly for that.
>>49616486Not entirely, it's easy to make their arch enemy a loyalist chapter and that's pretty much the case with most chaos warbands anyway. It would be more interesting to put in the work to make Orks their greatest foe, at least in my opinion. What about a specifically powerful band of freebootas? With a leader so dedicated to getting money he even take work from chaos warbands? They'd be taking away the legions customers and i don't think the council or Thodos would be very happy about a bunch of greenskins taking possible recruits from them.
>>49615421>implying white scars aren't always winking WEW LAD
>>49616486Maybe the Mechanicus could make a good nemesis.They branded them as arch-Hereteks or something because they are so fond of mutating people and attaching random cyborg-bits to people.So maybe even instoring a rivalry between a Magos and Thodos could be a good idea.Just my 2 cents
>>49616821Maybe they looted one of the Chimera's ships and ,whenever they meet in battle, make sure to mock the Chimera's for the fact that one of their ships was stolen by Orks. not even another warband, just a bunch of Orks
>>49618077>>49616821>>49616282>>49616208So during the Glory Days of Hua Yuan I was fighting for an Ork PMC because I think their tanks look awesome, but I think we could recycle the idea here, introducing some cyberpunk themes in terms of literal corporate warfare between the two mercenary groups
>>49619242Yeah with this I think it may be a good idea. With this >>49618634 as well it could transcend the relationship from professional to deeply personal
>>49619242What if it was a Freeboota Kaptin who was the archenemy?? They always have more personality than the average warboss!
>>49620240>>49619918I reckon the relationship should always be personal from the Orks perspective and they've always tried to rile up the spikey gits. However the Chimera's just see the Orks as a nuisance up until the point where they steal a cruiser full of Obliterators from under their noses. That's when the legion goes ape-shit
>>49621258It's a constant battle with the Legion always underestimating the Orks, only for the Orks to pull some hilarious bullshit and the Legion command to froth at the mouth over it. They're always cool and collected when dealing with the Kaptin UP UNTIL he beats them again.And the Kaptin never really wants to destroy the Legion. He has too much fun screwing up their plans and stealing their shit that he'd much rather they keep coming after him.
>>49621526Well it means we get Orkbliterators, so I'm happy.
>>49621526>Dakka iz da right o' all Orky lifeforms!>Orkz, roll out!>We'z in space, Kaptin.>SHUT IT YA GIT!
>>49621680One of the guys following him is literally 5 gobbos in a weird pyramid shape with some scrap limbs attached.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3VINpaOPyM
>>49622099And before any of you complain about Chop SHop being a decepticon...I just need an excuse to make the joke about it.
>>49621526>>49621538>>49621680>>49622099>>49622130As funny as this is, I think we need to scale it back. Sure the orks can be silly because they're, well, orks. But orkformers is a bit too out there. I like the ork PMC idea. Maybe blood axes that work for the imperium from time to time.
>>49622316Yeah the Orkformers are more of a joke, but the Orks will basically be taking the role of a rival merc/raider gang, with a more chaotic and comedic bend to contrast them with the strict structure of the Legion. They're essentially the "heroes" but they're actually just as bloodthirsty and greedy.
>>49622316>>49622620>>49622130>>49621680>>49621538>>49621526>>49621515I think we need them to be more professional. I'd like to think of them as Splinter Cell Orks, or Metal Gear operators, sure there's plenty of room for fun and games, but I think it will clash with the Chimeras Terrorism then Assault tactics in just the right way
>>49622805I'm thinking like Bluddflag's WAAAGH in that they're actually very adept and clever, but also fucking crazy fun.But then again I want every Ork to be Bluddflag, I'm a fanboy.
>>49622805Make the warboss the alpharius of orks, but instead of crazy amazing covert ops just plans so stupid only an ork could make them work.
>>49623097The reason why...everyboy in the warband wears red, purple and blue armour/warpaint. and all the ships are painted in red, blue and purple.
>>49623836Dat ain't orky ya git! Red iz da fastest, Poiple iz da sneekyest and Bloo iz da lookeyest.
>>49623854And Green iz best
what does the 1d page look like to you guys
>>49624672k, cleared cache. So what else do we want to do right now, add thodos writefaggery
Get Hyped brothers. What should I tell him?
>>49625094You're willing to pay for this, thank you very much
>>49625094Are we looking to do Thodos, or the whole Council?I think just Thodos would be fine for now, we don't really need color or background if we want to save time&cost. It's just a character concept piece.If we're doing the Council, I think it should be a little like the High Lords of Terra picture (attached). I'd still lean for greyscale over color, this isn't a legion that puts a lot of significance on color.
>>49625211someone is already sketching thodos so let's wait for that
>>49625211If we're getting a proper piece of drawfaggotry I think it needs to be something that would be a "page image" rather than a "gallery image" you feel me?
>>49625211I think the council should be drawn, we already have a couple people sketching Thodos as it is
>>49625094>>49625121How much do these commissions usually cost?
>>49625356>>49625211If we do the council we're going to have to have some kind of idea what they look like.Arlek should look like cyborg Christopher Lee
>>49623097...so Pirate-Ork Oinkbaine?In all seriousness >>49622805 is a good idea, and if we're going with>>49618634 then it would explain how they managed to loot a warship, possibly without anyone noticing till it was too late.
So our enemies lie somewhere between Splinter cell, Metal Gear Solid and the hijinks patrol? I can live with it.
>>49628475So like a hybrid Freeboota/Kommando force that's smart enough to do mercenary work?And after competing over a few contracts, being sent against each other, the occasional raid from both sides, and copious amounts of smack talk, they'll throw down with the Chimeras whenever they can.That sound about right?
>>49628955What about blood axes turned freebootaz? They're a bit more tactical than other orks and have the most amount of Kommandos out of the tribes. Plus they're known to work for the imperium from time to time, which would be a good reason for us to know and hate them.
>>49629100>>49628955>>49628475Think of it this way.You work for a pizzeria as a delivery man. Family owned, small place, good 'za. The works. It's a comfy little shack downtown that's nestled underneath a tattoo shop and a massage parlor, probably a mob front too, but who cares, Mr. Theo treats you real good and his daughter might give you a go if you keep working hard and riding your bike to work.You signed up after the accounting firm you where interning for collapsed after six consecutive triple reverse ponzi schemes and you were left back at square one. Even before then you knew that Mr. Theo's Pizzeria was some good shit, sure it's in a seedy part of town, and sure it might be a little greasy, but when you're hungover or need a quick bite there is literally nothing better than Mr. Theo's 'za.Now you've been working there for seven months. You've gotten a raise, a new car to deliver in, and pretty fly new uniforms. But then there's Dominos. This wing of the cancerous, soulless chain is somehow an even worse neighborhood, and every hoodrat, ratchet, gangbanger wellfare God King who needs a job that barely pays minimum wage just to put on their assistance programs paperwork has gathered to this temple of false 'za like flies to shit.And they are aggressive. It's not enough that your small business has to contend with this Mongol Horde, but even worse the fuckers have resorted to vandalism. Slashed tires, keyed cars, flipped trashcans, spray painted windows, you name it.Every time you get an order to deliver you see one of those fucks on the road and suddenly a simple pizza to drop off becomes a death race, you and that barbarian at the gates trying to run eachother off the road to defend the honour of your mighty pizza kingdoms.It's even translated to off the clock, crime rates going through the roof after superbowls and Oscars, the mafia clashing with the local gangs over what normies think is drugs, or guns. But you know the truth.
>>49629784It's all about the 'za. And you would bleed for your Pizzeria, because they would have your back if you fell on hard times, and together you'll make those corporate fucks regret the day they ever stepped into the city
>>49629784>>49629816And then one night they take it too far.A call goes out, a large with pepperoni and a two-liter of sprite, delivery. It goes a little ways into Domino's territory, but Ronnie decides to go anyway. It's just one delivery, and he could use the money. He's a good kid.But when he gets there, no one answers the door. He rings a few times, kicks at the curb a bit, then turns to leave. And then he sees all the guys between him and the car. It's dark, but he can just barely see the blue and black jackets with red collars, and a little domino at the pocket.He gets halfway before they take him down. He's screaming, but no one's gonna call the cops. Not on Domino's turf.And then they give him a Glasgow Smile and rape him in the parking lot.And there's a fire lit that can't ever be put out. You get a few of your friends and go hunting for cheesy crust, and maybe you catch a few. Maybe you take them into the basement of Theo's and do unspeakable things to them. Maybe you light a few candles, chalk down some circles, use their pain and their terror to open a door, make a deal with some very nice gentlemen.
>>49629784So we're Dominos and we're fighting Kaptin Theo?
>>49630453And maybe three nights later you fall upon Domino's with all the hateful might of the four Ruinous Powers, slaughtering the usurpers with blade and fire and twisted limb. The cops come around to the torched ruin the next day, mark all the evidence. It takes a while to chalk the outlines. There's a lot of pieces. Some of them are warped all out of shape.They never come calling on Theo's. Maybe they just didn't want the answers to those kinds of questions.You sit down with the coworkers for a hearty slice of Theo's pizza. But as you take that first bite, you know there's been some horrible change. There's a price to any bargain struck with the dark gods, and maybe you wouldn't have made the deal if you'd known the price. Or maybe you would have anyway. Either way, the delicious 'za that got you day to day now turns to ashes in your mouth. Theo's pizza is closed to you. Maybe all pizza.You sit at the greasy table, and weep.
>>49630456Oh, I thought we were Theo fighting Kaptin Domino's. I guess the analogy could go either way.
>>49630471>>49630453>>49629816>>49629784Do you guys need to get something off your chests? Jesus christ...
>>49626771>++Open Dataslate for viewing by all Chimeras++>+Know Thy Enemy+>+++++Target Packet O91R0377+++++>+++Priority- Omega Plus>+Designation- Big Boss Magrumm Blakkrokka [Conflicting Reports on target name] I can't decide a good name>+Occupation- Ork Warboss/Kaptain [Target most likely holds both offices] of the REDACTED>>Ork Warband and Fleet. Can't decide a good name for these guys either>+Specifications- >>~4.8/5 Meters tall, weight is difficult to measure due to Ork muscle density, although the >>target is expected to be a few tonnes. BE ADVISED despite the target's size the possesses>>enhanced stealth capabilities. High Command has studied various battle reports and has>>declared the target to be highly trained in stealth, guerilla, and hand to hand combat>>[Refer to Battle Report BR101H241M]. Most disturbingly the target seems to possess higher>>mental faculties than one would expect from an Ork, even one of the target's age and >>status. Extreme caution is to be exercised when confronting the target and those of his >>organization.>>+++BE ADVISED+++ Our Lord and Leader, He of Steel, Flesh, and Daemon, the Chimera>>Incarnate, [Long May He Bring Us Glory, Long May We Bring Him Honour] Thodos the>>Ironbringer has declared the target a high priority enemy of the Legion and furthermore>>demanded that He of those of the Chimeric High Council be the officiating individuals in the>>target's elimination. >++Good Luck and Good Hunting, Chimeras++
>>49636796>Magrumm BlakkrokkaI like it. Pirate as fuck.
>>49636796Is there an thing called "Da Blakk Fang/s"? Cause we could use that name for the warband/Kaptain's title, which ever works better.
>>49637187Da Blakk Fangz?
>>49637609Aye, so named cause they cover their pearly gnashers in camouflagey paint
>>49637963>>49637619Okay. Are we going more pirates or more PMC?I vote the later. Orks trying to act professional is hilarious to me
>>49636796>>49637164>>49637187Of the many Warbosses that plague the Imperium of Man, none pose as great an enigma as that of Big Boss Magrumm Blakkrokka of Da Blakk Fangz. Though his fleet of mercenary ships is infamous in its own right, its Warboss has almost never been seen.What little we know of the creature indicates that he began his rise to power as a Kommando of the Goff clan, in a minor Freeboota warband. Much like the infamous Boss Snikrot of Armageddon, Magrumm developed a reputation for ghosting through enemy forces, with slow-cooling corpses the only trace of his passing. His odd behavior of painting his prominent fangs black, and remaining completely silent in the heat of combat, alienated him from his fellow orks.When Kaptinn Rotgutt (a somewhat unremarkable warboss) called out Magrumm on his "cowardly" tactics, Magrumm attacked him without a word. Though the Freeboota was far larger and stronger, the Kommando triumphed, driving his choppa through Rotgutt's eye.Now Big Boss Blakkrokka, he reformed the Freeboota warband into a deadly force. Attracting an unusual number of Kommandos to its cause, Da Blakk Fangz were named for the orks' practice of smearing black paint onto their teeth, in honor of their leader.
>>49638546Da Blakk Fangz now offer their unique brand of violence to the highest bidders across the galaxy. They are known for a degree of restraint slightly above that of their brethren, although reports of civilian casualties, fights erupting over payment negotiations, and outright turning on their employers in bloodlust are all too common. Still, their services remain highly in demand. There are even heretical whispers that the Inquisition has commissioned the warband from time to time.Blakkrokka himself remains a frustrating mystery. For all his success, he prefers to remain out of sight, commanding and negotiating contracts through his Nobs. What little we have seen from grainy picts and rare firsthand accounts suggest an orc of massive size, clad in tones of black and purple, strapped with an assortment of jagged knives. He seems to disdain the shiny trinkets that his Nobz festoon themselves with. Witnesses claim he is unsettlingly quick for his bulk, and that the eye itself has difficulty following his form. Clearly the gestalt psychic field of the orks has had a tremendous effect on his abilities.
>>49636796That's frighteningly large for a sneaky git.
>>49638820It seems that Da Blakk Fangz has formed a deadly rivalry with another mercenary group, the equally infamous Chimera Legion. The blasphemous worshippers of the Ruinous Powers, known for using the mutating properties of the Warp to accentuate their combat abilities, kill any Blakk Fangz on sight, even breaking off raids to pursue the greenskins. Blakkrokka sends his boyz against the heretics with equal relish.It's theorized that their conflict began with simple competition over mercenary work, but escalated quickly from minor skirmishes to pitched battles. The rivalry came to a head when Blakkrokka himself led a force of Kommandoes, Lootas, and Mekboyz onto the Chimera flagship The Hand of Tianakles, slaughtering the crew and looting it for his own fleet. The theft of the ship, now renamed Da Tinkly Git, remains a point of deadly contention between the two forces.
>>49639115>Da Tinkly GitThe whole operation was just for the sake of "fuck you". Amazing.This is like a less stupid version of Crull and Gorgutz.
How large are warband fleets typically?
>>49639615Usually one to a few capital ships supported by any number of smaller ones.
>>49639659That's a very specific number hoss
Did a quick sketch of what this guy might look like.I don't know if it's easy to see, but he's replaced this thumb and pointer finger with a Power Klaw, so he can grab people by the throat and slice through their jugular as he throttles them.
>>49640316Aaaand forgot the picture. Here it is.
>>49640332Good! But make the Klaw blades a little bigger and give him the 40k Ork nose.
>>49640361reworked it a little. How's that?
>>49640437Bonus spooky pic
>>49640437Good! Really good!Some suggestions, however >Night Vision goggles>No lips, so his LARGE teeth are always barred like an angry babboon>Bigger tusk teeth >Also black. Like inky>Bolted on "teeth" serrations on the knife.>Kill marks on his left pauldron. >The pauldron is entirely covered in kill marks>Tooth piercings on his arms or somethings.>Tattoos/Grease paint camoOnce we get a good picture of him I'm going to get three pictures commissioned>Thodos and the High Council>Thodos and Magrumm fighting eachother while their forces trade fire behind themAnd something else, I'll take suggestions.
>>49639615The leaders pimpmobile Corrupted freighters Random space dragon daemons Random space hulks
>>49639115Why is the flagship not named after Thodos?
>>49641233Sorry, I wasn't sure how to write it so it was clear. It wasn't the official flagship of the fleet, but a group of ships were away from the main fleet, and it was the flagship of that sub-fleet. So, a really important and powerful ship, but not THE most important and powerful ship.Wasn't really sure how to write that.
>>49641084Those are kickass suggestions, thanks. I'll get to work on it.
>>49641407Thanks! I can't wait to see what you come up with
>>49641407Also I'd chop off the nose. Orks don't tend to have em
>>49641084Perhaps the other could be the scene of Thodos' ascension, or Magrumm taking Da Tinkley Git.
>>49643020Maybe just a picture of a marine, for the Wiki page?
>>49643137We don't really need a commissioned picture for that, we can just use the >>49596220 pic
>>49643674Right. Just the insignia then, perhaps?
>>49614930>>49615022Doing the same for Da Blakk Fangz:https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Ork_Klan_Creation_Tables>Freeboota>Purple>Warboss>Krumped loads o' spiky 'umies>Mork>small/regular amount>normal size>Ovva Orks>Spiky 'umies an' stuff loik dat>Kommandoz>(probably the Chimera's ship)>made it orkier
>>49644717I would say that their colours would be black as primary and purple as secondary and they would be pretty non-committal about the whole Gork Mork thing.
>>49645316My reasoning was that purple is the sneaky color for orks, and black is usually for Goffs, which are usually opposed to sneakiness. Magrumm is a Goff, but he's an exception to the rule. I guess black could work, just so long as it's clear that most of the warband are Blood Axez.I will take a stand on Mork over Gork. Mork is the cunning one, and the main feature that sets Da Blakk Fangz apart is their intelligence. They've got tactics and Kommandoes and can work with allies without immediately murdering them. That's ded cunning fer an Ork.
>>49645451I agree with these guys focusing on purple, though having black as well, and also focusing on Mork. The level at which these boyz operate requires some Mork worship.Though the question is: who do they hire themselves out to? The Imperium, sometimes, we've established that. But I think their most common customers should be other Chaos warbands who don't want to get their hands TOO dirty (a la Crull).It only makes sense because the Chimera Legion can only really sell itself to Chaos allies, so if the Blakk Fangz never encroached on that territory they'd have no reason to clash.
>>49644717I want to make a Blakk Fangz army now.
>>49645821Literally anyone, Deldar, Chaos, other Orks, Tau. Whatever pays in Teef, Flash, Bitz, or anything they can use to get the other three. The Chimera Legion would probably work for Imperials (Any Imperial crazy enough to contact them is probably going to oay out the nose) Chaos, and DEldar
>>49646630What sort of idiot, deranged Imperial is going to hire Chimera? Hire them for WHAT?
>>49646715I mean you could argue cultists are technically imperial citizens, but that's stretching it.If he means loyalist imperials yea fuck that.
>>49646827Yeah, I doubt most of the imperium actually knows they exist. In the same way that most of the imperium doesn't know the chaos Gods exist
>>49646715Radical/Unhinged Ordos Xenos Inquisitors, sketchy Rouge Traders, secessionists, heretics, closest heretics, traitors, etc
So what do we need to work on next?Campaigns?
>>49651436The chapter they were, and if they have any loyalists veterans hunting them down
>>49652222they were Iron warriors. As for if they have any veterans hunting them, the hunters would probably be Iron Warriors, loyal to Perturabo (If there are any hunters)>>49651436I think we need to pin down something of a history for the legion (what they were doing before they left the Iron Warriors, what they've done since) and the High Council (Where the individual members came from, how they ended up in the legion and how they got so far in the legion as to be trusted by Thodos). We've got that stuff for Arlek I think the others deserve a little love in that department
>>49652468People should write up some fluff to get down the personalities of the High Council members, as well as some fluff of confrontations between Chimera and Blakk Fang forces, and maybe just some misc pieces of Chimera kicking ass.>>49600378 Linking this for reminders.
>>49652516I think Tianakles should be the "Titan". Tianakles the Titan. Tall and handsome to bootMaybe he's from a Word Bearers Successor?
>>49652646Oh you mean like his title. I thought you were saying we should make the Apostle some kind of weird dreadnought-titan.I think it would be funny, as a Dark Apostle allied to a mercenary group, if Tianakles had the personality of a televangelist. He loves the Dark Gods, but he loves hordes of followers and boat-tons of money even more!
>>49652876Definitely seconded.>"Folks, I know you're wondering, why did your good ol' Tianakles have to get himself a big battlecruiser? And the answer is, it's not MY battlecruiser. It's God's battlecruiser. All four of them. And since you all worked so hard to get it to me, it's your battlecruiser too, just a little bit."I'm just gonna be the one captaining it, guiding all its crew just like I guide each and every one of you through life, just as the gods of Chaos guide me- wait, what the fuck are those orks doing?"
>>49653483Whenever the Blakk Fangz are mentioned at council meetings Tianakles immediately flips out unprofessionally, Arlak starts seething over the financial blows, and the rest of the council just hang their heads like "not this again"
I'm doing some work on the 1d4chan page right now, take a look in a little bit and let me know if I've messed anything up too much.
>>49653875What have you done so far?
>>49654059Changed the intro to be a bit more accurate, added an Overview section. I'm planning to add a Preferred Tactics section, add the color scheme picture, and maybe mention Da Blakk Fangz.
>>49653701Silas tries to hide his begrudging respect and just ends up going a little overboard in the Fang hatin'
>>49654480Why would Silas give a shit? He's a motherfucking Raptor. Good tactics sre good tactics, and credit goes where its due
>>49654589Because Thodo's is a mentally unstable daemon prince with a hate boner for these orks from when they stole one of his battleships.
I feel that Silas would respect the Blakk Fangz inasmuch as they are prey worthy of his talents to hunt and kill. As a Raptor he sees himself as an apex predator, the only others of his kind being the Chimera Legion. That doesn't mean the Blakk Fangz don't present him an entertaining and often outright challenging quarry.
>>49655117This is a good attitude for Silas to have, although there surely would be more Raptors in the Legion >>49654824Well as insane as Thodos is, he knows how crazy he is, and makes efforts to look as clear as crystal. I think the I only one that knows that he wrestles with his own sanity is Arlek.I feel Thodos would in one hand respect the Blakk Fangz, Magrumm in particular because he is in many way what he's trying to accomplish; a pinnacle, an exception to the rule. On the other he wants to play in their blood
>>49655243What matters is that, whether they try to play it cool or try to deny it, the Chimera Legion should give a major shit about the Blakk Fangz, while the good Kaptin takes NONE of it seriously and just loves trolling his best enemies.
>>49655434I can imagine Magrumm speaking to Thodos almost like he's speaking to an old friend while they're exchanging banter, and it irritating Thodos to no end.>Thodos stared intently at the bridge's comms screen, Magrumm Blackrokka's toothy grin greeting his gaze.>"Itz nice to hear from ya again, 'umie. I wuz almost worried we wuzn't friendz no more," teased the Warboss. Thodos' grip on the railing of his command pulpit increased significantly at the comment.>"I assure you Ork, this is no amicable visit. I must say, I am impressed you've managed to escape my Legion for so long, but it ends today. I can no longer afford a meager pirate to take away my business, or my ships." >Magrumm laughed, his black-toothed grin seeming to stretch across his entire face. "Wot, ya mean dis ol' junka?" The Ork motioned to the ship he was standing in. "I didn't take it, yur ladz handed it ta me wit the zoggin' bad fight dey put up. I swear, me grotz coulda done betta. I thought yur ladz liked ta get stuck in.">Thodos kept himself composed, refusing to let Magrumm get a rise out of him. "You're trapped, Ork. There's nowhere left for you to skulk off too. I'm afraid our association ends here. I hope you're ready.">"But 'umie, if ya do dat, the boyz n' me'll miss ya so much!" At that, the Warboss cut communications, his laugh the last thing Thodos heard beofre the image disappeared. The Daemon Prince could feel his rage begin to boil over at the Ork's impudence. However, he couldn't help but let out an amused snicker. For all the trouble Magrumm had caused, Thodos always found himself looking forward to their inevitable engagements.>The Ironbringer turned from his pulpit and motioned to Silas Warpshriek. "Begin the assault, and bring me that fool's head once and for all. It is about time I mount it on a spike."
>>49655434>>49655927I don't know, I was hoping the rivalry would be a little less Ebik Exx Dee, Orks amirite guise? And a little more professional and emotional.
>>49656618Uh, Ebik Exx Dee?
>>49656655>Lol Epic XDHomebrew Orks tend to be meme dumpsters, as opposed to genuinely funny (Deff Skwadron)/Horrifyingly Omnicidal (Forget which book it is/and DW3 Trailer)/An even mix which isnthe most common.
>>49655927>>49656618Maybe we could switch their roles round, Thodos launching threats whilst Blakkrokka remains silent, waiting till his nemesis is done before perhaps cracking a smile and ending the transmission. I reckon Blakkroka could piss Thodos off by proving his professional nature by staying silent in those communications, and proving that he's not just another (admittedly rather lucky) ork
>>49656759I dunno about you, but>>49638546>>49638820>>49639115and>>49655927Doesn't sound like meme dumpsters.The orks are professional (By ork standards), and honestly I think the dynamic between Magrumm and Thodos is way more interesting than a space marine chapter master and Thodos screaming BROTHER at each other. Magrumm just has a way of pulling at Thodos' strings in a way that could make him eventually snap and show his true colors to the rest of his men that I don't think could be achieved with a space marine chapter. I mean remember, orks are only as silly as we make them. And we've done a pretty good job of scaling down the saturday morning cartooniness of the Chimera's.
>>49657068I don't think we need to sacrifice what makes Orks Orks for the sake of quality narrative. They can still display Orkish traits in their own unique way.
>>49658032>>49657068I don't know I really like this treatment >>49657067 Thodos sitting there seething at this ork shrouded by darkness while he just sits there with this lipless, smug, grin while the High Council sits there like pouting children
>>49659480Also, can we Consider a better title for Archanon? All the other members of the High Council have a High [x] in their name, save Arlek, Even then I'm pretty sure he can be High Warsmith Arlek the IronchosenPerhaps High Seer/Oracle Archanon the Venomous? The Frumious? The Binder?
>>49659908Probably Seer, it's nice and to the point.Also I love "frumious", I don't even care.High Seer Archanon the Frumious??
>>49660089Fuck yea, I'm Down
>>49660089So we have >High Warsmith Arlek the Ironchosen >High Fleshshaper Orphaeus Paraphron>High Commander Silas Warpshriek >High Seer Archanon the Frumious>High Prophessor Tianakles the Titan
>>49660089Only if he has a Chaos Spawn named Bandersnatch.
>>49665060Or a Daemon. Or a xenos.Either way Archanon needs some kind of familiar
>>49665296Perhaps a pseudo-spawn made out of a high ranking member of the Uluméathic League?
>>49666032Jesus christ. What do those words even mean?Could such a thing work?
>>49666032>>49666269Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
>>49666269Yea, it probably could. Mutate anything enough and it eventually becomes a chaos spawn (or close enough anyways)>>49667043>>49667066>>49667479But can really more than every time kind of like because should not anyways?
>>49668190Probably, but you've got to get rid of the ferrets first
What was the legions "Big Reveal"? What did they do to put themselves on the map and begin turning heads?
>>49668410Probably Thodos ascendancy, no?
>>49668430Alright then, do we have any specifics of when, why, and where it happened?
>>49668410>>49668430Yea, probably Thodos' ascendance to daemon princehood. I mean a daemon prince is a big enough deal, but one of Chaos undivided? He's probably high up on the inquisitions watch list just for his existence alone.Which begs the question: What did he do to ascend? Just win a lot, or was there a specific event that solidified it? I dunno much about chaos so I'm just wondering what it would take.
>>49668954I'm not sure if it was mentioned last thread or this one, but there was the suggestion that he's not sure what got him his princehood, but he says that it was some brilliant tactical maneuver that stole victory from the jaws of defeat in some battle or other. Also he ascended whilst dying
>>49668954Well he was an Obliterator BEFORE he ascended, so his ascendancy probably had to do at least in part with him reaching his little insanity-nirvana and gaining control over his mind.
>>49669083He's always had control over his mind. When he became an Obliterator he retained his sanity, thats why the Legion worships him
Well done for updating the page guys, but a few recomendations, spawn are never mentioned by name on 1d as it causes you to horribly mutate and cause another writer to take your place. Also why don't we just have a seperate page for write faggotry, rather than just have the page go on for ever, also is there a /tg made factions portal we can put the page in
>>49668410Being the best mercenaries that another warband or cult hired, and so other warbands fight to be able to offer their money to buy the chimera obliterators to kill other warbands grim dark Also ideas for why he's undivided, khorne relishes in the blood that will be shed by their mutilators, Nurgle loves them for spreading his viruses and plagues with their troops, slaanesh sees them as perfectionists for trying to distill the obliterator virus and sees the debauchery they engage in when they fail yet again, tzeentch is pleased with the rapid change of obliterors as their flesh constantly bonds and unbinds, shrinking and growing
>>49670447Not necessarily. We've established that he was losing it, but a majority of his sanity was retained via will alone (probably), and he ascended before the virus ran it's course. I'd say he had stage 5/6 As for his ascension it was because of some particularly clever and brutal change of tactics that saw him victorious over a larger force (probably).That's what the stories say, at least. And that's what Thodos himself believes, those are the stories that he reassures himself with. The reality is, is that he's actually quite insane, but Thodos knows this, so he's able keep a lid on it for most of the time. Usually it expresses itself in over theatrics or melodrama, and the occasional spell of Dementia (i.e. he's in the eastern fringe and suddenly he's on Terra, pushing loyalist shit in. He's in the ghoul stars and a Rak'Gol ship becomes the Iron Cage, etc). Thodos himself isn't entirely sure what kept him relatively sane and his body intact, and his ascendancy is way too...convenient. And whenever he dwells to hard upon it he always feels as if someone behind him is laughing at him, like they're about to pull the rug out from underneath him.Is it craziness, or is there something more going on...?
>>49672252Who knows with those Ruinous Assholes.So I think the big victory should've been the annihilation of some xenos power. Full on genocide. I don't know if we can claim the destruction of the Ulumeathic League, but it should've definitely been a minor xenos empire with at least a few star systems under its control.
>>49670046Fuse that with the pillarman theme and I think we'll have the legion's theme song
>>49673919When this one dies, sure