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A thread for discussing the Star Trek franchise and its various tabletop iterations.

Possible topics include the rpgs by FASA, Last Unicorn Games and Decipher, the Starfleet Battles Universe and WizKid's Star Trek: Attack Wing miniatures and game, and Star Trek in general.

Game Resources

FASA's RPG
>https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9mt7sng56l8gg/Star_Trek_RPG_(FASA)
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cwn8tbt2qm5t4/FASATREK_Adventures

Last Unicorn Game's RPG
>https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9eiysv2192ods/Star_Trek_RPG_(LUG)
-Official and Fanmade Resources
>http://www.coldnorth.com/memoryicon/

Decipher's RPG
>https://www.mediafire.com/folder/c6tb7p6dp0pye/Star_Trek_RPG_(Decipher)
-Fan Supplements
>http://strpg.patrickgoodman.org

Far Trek
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/lrhbz9l0qay0j/Far_Trek

Lasers & Feelings
>http://www.onesevendesign.com/laserfeelings/

Lore Resources

Memory Alpha - Canon wiki
>http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Portal:Main

Ex Astris Scientia - Fan analyses of ships, tech and continuity issues
>http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org

Daystrom Institute Technical Library - Database of ships and technology
>http://www.ditl.org

Star Trek LCARS Blueprints Database - Ship schematics, deck plans and recognition manuals
>http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/blueprints-main2.php

Star Trek Maps - Based on the Star Trek Star Charts, updated and corrected
>http://www.startrekmap.com/index.html

Star Trek Cartography - Information and maps
>http://www.stdimension.org/int/
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>>49992358
>Sarina, not Lauren. And poor Julian. He really needs help from Miles, doesn't he?
I meant what I said. Sarina works for SI and infilitrates S31 when she sees Julian again, and knows about his James Bond style fantasies, and plays with him over them. So she's a Bashir girl.. Interestingly, after a bit, O'Brien and his family go to Cardassia Prime at Garak's request to help the rebuilding, and we get to see Keiko browbeat a terrorist into surrendering. Which impresses the hell out of Gul Macet.
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>>49992400
>Sarina works for SI and infilitrates S31 when she sees Julian again, and knows about his James Bond style fantasies, and plays with him over them. So she's a Bashir girl..

That really does seem more Lauren's style than Sarina's. Either way, ouch.

>Interestingly, after a bit, O'Brien and his family go to Cardassia Prime at Garak's request to help the rebuilding,
I could only imagine the response being "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAH! No."

>and we get to see Keiko browbeat a terrorist into surrendering.
Well, she is a Japanese Hate Ghost...

Wait, no, a Japanese Hate Ghost wouldn't have browbeat him, it would have cranially detonated him.

Hrm...

Keiko is basically everything that's soft and sweet about modern Japanese culture, sanitized for a Western audience. She freaked out about the idea that O'Brien's mum or gran actually prepared food by touching actual meat - like, from an actual animal - with her hands. Somehow, I don't see her as ever having kicked her enemies to their knees, taking a knee behind them, extending two digits and screaming "TEN THOUSAND YEARS OF PAIN!" before kancho'ing them into orbit. (In her defense, doing that would be awful, and someone who actually did it would be awful. THREATENING to do it, on the other hand...)

I wonder how she'd react to the Kiryuin Sisters, who have lived by the sword for the better part of two centuries. (Albiet with long periods of nothing but smacking each other with bokken whilst they were chilling in what I can only assume was a SWEET Japanese manor innawoods on Ba'ku.)
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>>49993015
>I wonder how she'd react to the Kiryuin Sisters,

She'd probably thing they're horrifically out of date and if not stereotype, then certainly as peculiar as Worf's incredibly old-fashioned, highly at odds with reality notions of Klingon traditionalism, and that they have little to no place in the 24th century.

And she wouldn't be wrong either, they are horrifically outdated at the very least
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So no one else saw that Q brought a mariachi band to Picard's wedding?
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>>49993265
Well what other type of band would he bring?
Of course he'd bring a mariachi band
You know how hard it is to get a real live band in a future with no money? You have to like actually convince these assholes to travel out there to perform on promises of political favors or some shit. Thank god Q can just pop a band into existence for free.
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>>49993579
>You know how hard it is to get a real live band in a future with no money?
As a Q? Not very.
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>>49993579
>You know how hard it is to get a real live band in a future with no money?
You do know that even if Feds have done away with fait currency. They could still barter for your services. Feds really are commies at times since money is kind of worthless to them.
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>>49994414
So has anyone archived all the Ark Royal stuff? It would be a shame for it to all go to waste.
And if there are still anons interested, we should figure out how the Ark Royal itself is outfitted. Since we have so many interesting characters as crew, it should reflect in the build of the ship.
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>>49994491
What class is it? Constitution? Enterprise/Connie Refit? Excelsior?
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>>49994639
>>49994639
Excalibur class I think.

The fucking huge one.

It's a holding box for all of Starfleet's crazy so it would have to be fairly huge.

Also so much innatubes.
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>>49994639
All the pics I've seen depict it as pic related
Though hell if I know what it's called
Really I think the Ark Royal is a class of its own as the ship is supposed to be a fucking floating city so any massive ship would do >>49994414 this Ascension class for example is listed as 1400m
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>>49995012
So what's the crew pop. like on one of those? So when you say city, do you mean like a total of like 10,000 people could live on this ship comfortably? We are talking like SDF-1 size for people moving, right? So you could have like an actual mall in the heart of this thing?
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>>49995426
Well since it's in the left of pic related, I'd say around 1-1.5k. Not stupidly large, but bigger than a Galaxy.
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>>49993154
>And she wouldn't be wrong either, they are horrifically outdated at the very least

Perhaps, but they're Augments, and thanks to that Ba'ku rejuvenation field, they have the bodies and some of the mental plasticity of teenagers again, so they can learn real fast.

As for being outdated, well... They're descended from Japanese Augments who escaped from Khaaaaaaaaan's Eurasian types before the end of the Eugenics wars, fucked off innaspace, and settled a planet somewhere. They were born in the early 2200s (like, pre-2210,) became embroiled in a plot to control the planet which led to Ryuko confronting her mother with drawn swords on some kind of orbital mind-control platform, destroying The Device and watching her mom seppuku herself.

Deciding "fuck this," they split, left to head out innagalaxy, joined Starfleet, and derped around until the Four Year War that Project Axanar would have showcased. At that point, they stopped all holding back, rose quickly, became Captains of Ares-class Heavy Cruisers, and towards the end, used their swords and defended a space station from a ton of Klinks with bat'leths and shit who were using the disruptor tetryon field trick to disable all the feddie's phasers. They had a last stand and survived it.

Then came the end of the war, Some People knew what they were (IE, Augments,) and told them that their careers as Starfleet Captains were over... But that they were still wanted by some people; had they ever heard of Section 31?
Satsuki quoted Article 14, Section 31. Then they both drew their swords and pointed them at the guy and told him in no uncertain terms that if Section 31 ever crossed their path again, it would have made a pair of lethal and implacable enemies; go ahead and ask Kiryuin Ragyo and the Klingon Empire for references. That guy let them leave peaceful, they left, and then they began derping around the galaxy on their own.
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>>49995529
At some point, they wound up on Ba'ku, chillin' and regeneratin'. The Ba'ku probably thought they were weeeeird, especially since instead of stabilizing at a nice calm ambiguously thirtyish age, their Augment genes meant they stabilized as late teens. That suits them just fine.

I imagine the Ba'ku probably didn't have much use for them teaching their youngsters the fine arts of kenjutsu, or even kendo, but they were probably happy to just leave well enough alone, live-and-let-live style, especially since it's an ugly truth that any pacifistic society needs to have someone around who's willing to do violence on their behalf. The Kiryuins might well have stepped in and kicked Ruafo and his crew the hell off the planet at the point of their swords (and phasers; they're not stupid) when those guys wanted to be shits.

And after Star Trek: Insurrection, of course, they'd have decided to get back out for a spell, gone and reenlisted. They never lied, but through some kind of bureaucratic clusterfuck and/or the actions of someone sympathetic to them, never got called out on their claims to being 200-year-old former Captains, or their stated nature as Augments. Then: Space Whale Time, because we can't do without these crazy superexcellent ladies, and we don't want them anywhere near a crew of normals.

So, yeah. They're super-weird. Comfortable with bloodletting, insist on wearing swords whilst on duty (and usually whilst off-duty,) quick to resort to violence when the ship is under attack (but not as quick as, say, Lt. Cmdr. Reed, or Dave Innatubes,) and consider Section 31 to be kill-on-confirmation....

Keiko would be horrified.
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>>49994491
Making threadcaps is exhausting. Should we just start a 1d4chan page instead?
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>>49995583
If we did that, we'd need to start including everybody's headcanon then. That one anon's anti Borg starfleet was pretty cool, if a bit long winded.
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So, did we ever decide on the captain for the Ark Royal? Last thread seemed inconclusive.
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>>49992400
>Gul Macet
Let me guess, he's on the committee of street lamps and other public light fixtures??
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>>49995939
No, that's Madred. Macet is the first Cardassian that the guy who played Dukat played. Macet's basically head of the Cardassian military, such as it is. And is still rocking those chops, as well as being the nicest Cardassian period, making an effort to make O'Brien feel welcome on Cardassia.
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>>49995529
>>49995572
what the fuck is all this fanfiction.net bullshit and why has it taken over my trek thread?
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>>49995969
Every general has a few. This is 4chan, after all.
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>>49995969
>my trek thread
Don't see your name on it.
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>>49995952
Did he ever get his hat back?
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> Be Kiryuin Ryuko, Lt. J.G., Security Division.
> Slam your fist into the hardwood executive shipping & receiving table in the Aft Cargo Bay Office. The table makes a satisfying sound.
>> This shit is unacceptable! That's the third time this MONTH that hostile boarding parties rendered the environment unfit for habitation and only Dave was properly equipped to deal with it. I know the jokes everyone makes about Security personnel, but just because my subordinates are wear red shirts does NOT mean they're expendable. The standard EV softsuits are such crap that they hinder us in a fight. My sister, myself, and Lt. Reed are the only people on this ship who can fight effectively in the damn things, and they don't offer any protection whatsoever. Shrapnel goes right through them. Yesterday I had to use a Jem'hadar's ketracel tube to tourniquet my ripped sleeve. We NEED Solanae suits.

>> No.
>>> Dave is in on this conversation. He's not present, but his voice comes through your commbadge nontheless.
>> We've had this discussion before. If people can mistake others for me, it will lead to Bad Things happening. Trust me on this.

>> We have to do something, Dave.
>>> Ensign Emily Sansnom is in on this, of course; it's her office.
>> My Cargonians were driven back from those Jem'hadar she mentioned when they deployed acid gas grenades. Shit started eating through our masks. It's a good thing I had a hover-pallet loaded with a heavy crate in the area, you were busy killing their saboteurs Innatubes.

>> I've got it!
>>> With a snap of her fingers, Lt. Sommers interrupts.
>> Tactical Conn Exosuits.

>> What?

> Cont.
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>>49998097
>> Tactical conn exosuits. Squadron 5's armorer put together the specifications. He reverse-engineered the Solanae exosuit, extended-duty tactical operations kit, and Peregrine fighter pilot's suits. They're overengineered, armored low-profile body armor environmental hardsuits with EVA capabilities. Take a look.
>>> Displays the specs on Pic Related. Noises of assent come from all around.

>> Should be fast enough to get on, good enough to wear for an extended operation. Sturdy in a fight, flexible enough for melee, hardy enough to stand up in a firefight.
>>> This meets with your approval as a professional purveyor-of-the-peacemaking-arts.

>> I know it's comfy enough to wear for long stretches whilst sitting down and operating a console, so it's good for use at duty stations as well as in a fight. I have one in my ship.
>>> Runabout Anne approves.

>> It's complicated, but looks properly ruggedized, and doesn't seem to use any particularly exotic materials. The armorer already built it to self-adjust to a certain degree, so it shouldn't fuck up our logistics too badly. The only hitch I see is that we'll need to stock the lockers with extra helmets for Andorians and other species with unusual head shapes, but... It can be done. We can begin replicating them shortly.
>>> The Cargo Bitch approves.

>> Okay then. We'll feed the old-style EVA suits into the industrial replicators and start stocking these. Cargo, Security, and the flight decks should be the first general issue roll-outs, followed by Engineering, then the airlocks, then the internal suit lockers.
>> Obviously, our custom suits are going to be the first ones. Don't forget the girls on HMS Stealth.

>> When do we tell the Captain?
>>> The Cargo Bitch sounds worried.

>> We don't. Once we're rolling them out to Engineering, I'll have a talk with the XO. We'll butter her up with customized suit just for her, she'll turn on the pheromones and smooth everything over.

>>> How shit gets done.
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What scene gets you every time?
For me its gotta be this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJudJ9S579A
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>>49992404
Look at his face. He's like "Christ, these kids suck."
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>>49995969
Should we add "mary sue fanfic" to /stg/ bingo?
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>>49998838
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K7C7f9tqtk
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In " a fistfull of data" Worf modified a combadge to create a, albeit limited, forcefield generator.
Considering the amount of tech inclined crew onboard surely a more practical version could be wipped up for Security?
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>>49999175
In the various Trek games featuring in-person combat, you can indeed wear portable shield generators.
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>>49995969

Ever since JJ, we've got no good new original continuity material. And in fairness if there's one fandom that has been totally overrun with fanfic since day one, it's Star Trek.
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>>49999175
If Trek took all its technology to its logical conclusion, Starfleet would be entirely automated with no meat crew at all. Sometimes you need to just not have things because it's a convention of the genre.
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Alright folks. I gotta go have lunch with my mom, but I threadcapped all of what happened in the last thread. Until then, I leave you with this.
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>>49999123
Might be no bad thing. The Idea had merit but now it's just a trainwreck of fetishes and cliches.
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>>49999926
>The Idea had merit but now it's just a trainwreck of fetishes and cliches.
Considering that Star Trek started as one man's sci-fi story made up of fetishes and clichés. I don't think /stg/ is doing that bad a thing so long as we kind of keep the spirit of Trek alive.
Like having a lot of exotic and hot alien/human ladies aboard as crew and recurring villains/annoyances.
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>>49999798
Have you anons spoken with your mothers lately? Friendly reminder that they'd probably be glad to hear from you and hear that you're doing alright. Especially if they're the ones who got you into Trek in the first place.

Anyway, threadcaps incoming. I'll start with the first one.
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>>50000884
Aaaaaaand I'm spent! If I missed anybody/anything, sorry, but hoooooly crap that last thread was packed with Innatubes and Innatubes Accessories.
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I have a question regarding Starfleet Ranks.

Would a captain serve as a first officer to a flag officer, when aboard a starship? I know it's not unheard of for a captain to serve as adjutant to an Admiral. But does an Admiral get a commander as their Executive Officer or does it scale up?
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>>50001040
Typically speaking, an Admiral would not be the direct commanding officer of a starship. An Admiral would be directing fleet operations from a flag bridge, which is separate from a ship's command bridge.

But if an Admiral was wearing the hat of a ship's captain, the ship's XO would probably still be a Commander, not a Captain.
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>>50000785
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>>50000884
>>50000958
Thanks kind Anon.

>>49995934
Someone suggested a Vulcan who went off the rails but it was contested by multiple anons.

Someone else suggested an old Rigelian who was trying to survive to retirement and was real sick of this shit.

It was mostly ignored but mildly disliked.
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>>50001150
So if, for instance, an Admiral was commanding a fleet from aboard a Galaxy class ship, they would command from the battle bridge while the ships general crew commands from the normal bridge (or the inverse)?
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So what era of Trek do you guys prefer the most? I like most eras well enough but I have a soft spot for TNG era tech. If we go too far in the future in Trek, it seems the setting turns into Doctor Who which I have a large distaste for. Not Dr. Who itself just Trek turning into Who. Time shit always kind of goes off the rails unless you do it a bit campy at least imho.
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>>50002570
Nope. He'd command from the center chair in the primary bridge.

>>50002578
2278 to around 2315. The rise of the Klingon killer fleet in a Post Organian Treaty environment, to the change of mission to a pure exploration focus as the Romulans become ever more insular. It's a very fascinating era that can be played as a simple war RPG, to spy games, to something where you have old war dogs incapable of adapting and pushing for interstellar war.
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>>50002578
I'm of a similar opinion. Trek rarely handles time travel well. Even "good" time travel episodes suffer from paradoxes and plot holes most of the time. That isn't to say that time travel isn't a god idea in a science fiction show, it's just not the banker that the writers seem to think it is.

As for my favourite era of trek? Well that's a tough one. I love the aesthetic of the WoK era. The Miranda and Excelsior are personal favourites. But I probably have more affection for TNG/DS9 as a setting.

Honestly I want to see a bit of the Cardassian War era, between the 2. Maybe a story revolving around Maxwell and his crew aboard the Rutledge.
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>>49995474
What the fuck even is that monstrosity?
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>>50003046
USS Freudian Nightmare, standing by.
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>>50000563
So far the only stuff that seems particularly out there to me is the 'centuries-old girls that look underage teehee and also they have katanas because why not just stuff every weeb trait we can into this'
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>>49999123
There should be several; there's certainly enough material. Then we could play bingo for real.
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>>50002642
>2278 to around 2315
That reminds me are there any strong schisms happening in the UFP during this time? It seems the Cardassians have fallen and the Romulan empire is falling apart. And the Klingons are on the war path again. So I would think this is the perfect time for Star Fleet to expand and up gun a lot especially with all the Undine dicking about. Not quite the Terran Empire but something enough to make even Borg think twice when entering UFP space.
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>>50001174

Right then, guess I'll put forward a third idea for one. Criticise/deride as required:

>Liberated borg drone, previously a starfleet captain
>reinstated once disconnected from the collective, but her time with the borg greatly affected her mannerisms and approach to problem solving
>Gives zero fucks about putting spin on their actions for starfleet approval, only cares about the optimal solution to the issue at hand
>Fell out of favour because of this; as brought up in the previous thread, you can bend or outright break the rules if you can win over the admirals in the aftermath, but if you don't care for that kind of politicking (and have a dash of good old fashioned cyber-autism) it'll bite you in the arse.
>Gets relegated to the Ark Royal; still loyal to the federation and its ideals, but not an officer starfleet wants in the public eye.


Attitude to the crew/approach to command:

>Mixed.
> On one hand, she appreciates the way in which the crew have organised themselves to be insanely redundant in case of attack; any assailant will meet with a swift response, either from Innatubes, Cargonia, security or frankly any one of the other madmen on board. Multiple redundancy and decentralisation means increased resilience.
>On the other, actually commanding them is an uphill struggle; Innatubes is a law unto himself, Sansnom does her damnedest to brush incidents in Cargonia under the carpet, and so on.
>Overall approach is thus controlling, but usually accommodating. Not upset by breaches of federation protocol if they serve a purpose, infuriated by being left out of the loop on major events on board.

(cont)
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>>50003358

Personality/other traits:

>Clinical and cold. Analytical. Pragmatic.
>Something of a control freak. Has to know what's going on on -her- ship, leading to friction between them and many of the more cavalier crewmen.
>Soft, slightly clipped speech.
>Augmented physique and senses from remaining borg implants; as having them has saved her skin more than a few times, stays conspicuously quiet whenever the dangers of Augments comes up in conversation. May be turning a blind eye to Hipps' genetic tampering.
>Secretly worries that they never really regained their humanity; former peers shun them, people stare at the cybernetics jammed into their flesh, and ideas that seem perfectly reasonable to them are rejected as "going against the spirit of Starfleet". Has yet to seek counselling over this, partly because they fear being right, and partly because they'd probably just get punched and told to pull themselves together.
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>>50002642
>Nope. He'd command from the center chair in the primary bridge.

Wrong! Only a TOSSER or a BOSS would do that, and amongst Starfleet Admirals, only James T. Kirk may lay claim to the title "Boss."

A flag bridge is a specialized command center optimized for fleet command and control, it would be neither the Galaxy's main bridge nor its battle bridge. Imagine an old admiral and a bunch of his staff in a room, the centerpiece of which is a giant map table, with lots of viewscreens on the walls all around, displaying tons of fleet-level relevant tactical data that aren't what the guys flying the ship need to be worrying about, but which are what the guys flying the whole fleet need to know.

>>50003183
Not fucking underage, you dipshit. Think "Just enlisted out of High School" rather than "Lt. Commander age." And that's a relative thing - you'd only really notice it if they were out of uniform.

>>50003358
I... Actually KIND of like this one, not hugely but more than the control freak Rigelian and the frankly cliche off-rails Vulcan, but I don't think Starfleet would entrust someone they don't actually TRUST with command of a vessel as xbox YUUUUGE and dangerous as the Ark Royal. It may be a maniac containment zone, but it's still an absolutely gargantuan Explorer++ starship. Not something you want someone you aren't 100% certain about in command of...

Though, she would also be one of the good reasons why Spinebreaker Trogarch isn't necessarily the best sort of counselor for a ship: people hold off seeking help on their issues for fear of being punched right in the goddamn face. It's a great way to get the number of visits to the counselor's office down, an absolutely terrible way to actually treat people.

> cont.
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>>50003358
>>50003387
Oh hell yes. That really completes the set.

I'm going to assume was human before getting Borged. Possibly received her Borging one one of those vanished colonies the Federation and Romulans were investigating at the end of the first season.

Maybe considers that technological enhancement is a valid means of enhancing standards of living and the experiences of life in general if used responsibly and bemoans the fact that the Borg have done for cybernetics what the Augments did for genetics.

Has point blank refused to have any additional implants removed beyond what is needed for safeties sake. Considers the metal as much of her body as her meat. Believes the division between machine and living to be false reasoning. This may be part of the reason why she has occasionally referred to the Ark Royal as some sort of a living thing.

Rather than futilely trying to control the crew and get them to adhere to any sort of order instead just tries to direct their madness along useful lines. Or at least into pursuits that aren't too dangerous/insane. Lessons were learned after Chief Engineer Barclay disassembled what was left of his Reality Violation Engine after the whole "Doom Horizon" incident.
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>>50003769
Actually, why IS Spinebreaker on this ship? I don't imagine she went to Starfleet Academy. Civilian specialist? This ship full of eccentrics seems like the absolute worst place for her. Can you imagine Chief Engineer Barclay entrusting this madwoman with any of his problems?

I can't. He'd probably be broken in half in one punch, and never speak to her again. Like, turn around and walk the other way if he happens to even see her in the halls. And as good as courtesans and holodecks may be for general morale, they aren't much good at resolving real issues.

Seems like this ship needs a REAL mental healthcare professional. Or more like an entire staff of them, given the ship is ~1,500 crew strong.

As for ex-Borg of Starfleet... Ehhhh...

Well, shit, now she has a pic >>50003811

What's her name?

Actually, can we assume that she just got transferred aboard, and Rigelian Hardass and Matriarch Spinebreaker retired together, had a nice violent Klingon wedding ceremony the entire crew attended and applauded, then flew off back to Qo'nos to make a political power-bid?
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>>50003836
The pic is just a generic one from the STO wiki.

As for Barclay; Matriarch Spinebreaker Trogarch can't be any worse for him than Troi.

She would be a civilian specialist merely hired by Starfleet rather than being part of Starfleet in any real official capacity. As a woman of the aristocracy she would be well educated but as a Klingon woman in the increasingly traditionalist Klingon Empire she would never be able to rule her house. Instead learned how people (mostly just Klingons) worked to aid her house in less overt ways.

She ended up on the Ark Royal because of political shenanigans getting half her family, including her husband, killed and her House stripped of all titles. The reason in large part for this was because she had always been supporting of greater cooperation between Federation and Empire and when the Undine stirred up shit and the war happened this looked very bad.

Whats left of her family sought refuge in the houses of friends, the protection for service of renowned captains and work as mercenaries. This was basically the death of House Trogarch as she had no husband for the name to be rallied around. She found refuge in the Federation due to them being allies. Due to the fact that she was still technically part of the ruling caste of an Empire they were at war with they needed her out of sight and they dumped her in the Ark Royal and she was a qualified psychiatrist educated at a very prestigious Klingon university.

A few years before the current date Rigelian Hardass and Matriarch Trogarch did get married and moved back to Qo'noS (short lived and half-assed Fed/Kling war was over) where she used her husband as the banner holder to call what was left of her broken House together. There were objections that were settled with contests of bare knuckle boxing that despite knocking on in years Rigelian Hardass won. Because he had no legal Klingon name Rigelian is now Serene Lord Trogarch.
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oh hey here's a funny character. He's socially awkward in a way that Starfleet generally wouldn't accept
>well he needs a waifu, she can be equally anti-social
wait what?
>and a quirky side cast of characters
I really don't think that's necessary...
>oh and of course the half snake sex-goddess that is also similar to the original character, besides being a Borg-lizard.
Guys maybe we shouldn't overthink...
>oh and the original premise needs a redress to make it as over-the-top as possible
Really this could have been an in-joke or...
>oh and then there's this other character with a dark and confusing past...


Maybe, just maybe, Dave Innatubes was a funny side character, at best, rather than a single member of increasingly sexualised cast. What's the point of having a quirky, anti-social mad genius as a character if everybody else is also a socially awkward, insane genius. Contrast is an important part of any intriguing character. Without a base-line of normalcy, the insane antics of Nn oddball character become the mundane actions of a Mary Sue.

You've basically made All Ricks, No Morty (But also the Ricks are invincible): the setting.
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>>50004048
>The pic is just a generic one from the STO wiki.
Hrm... If I still had STO installed, I'd take the time to customize the ex-Borg Cap'in.

It would also explain why Faith "Snek Innatubes" O'Mally is welcome on this ship. To someone who's into mechanical and genetic augmentations, the crazy mods she has, to the point of inhabiting a wholly-engineered bio-and-cyber-integrated-from-the-ground-up body, has got to be "fuck the Borg, this is transhumanism done right."

>As for Barclay; Matriarch Spinebreaker Trogarch can't be any worse for him than Troi.
Troi was never physically abusive, nor did she actively make his neuroses worse. I must register my outright disbelief at this statement.

> Matriarch Spinebreaker Trogarch's arrival and departure on the USS Ark Royal.
Hrm... Not bad. Gives her and Rigelian Hardass a non-stupid and kind-of-badass but graceful exit. Kind of a "House of Quark" situation, only where he did the right thing and stayed married to her.
I imagine that the applause at their wedding was thunderous. Probably moreso than is typically considered appropriate.

>>50004092
Fine, you want a straight man? I'll give you a fucking straight man. Hold on to your tits, prepare to be underwhelmed.
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The courtesans remain on the ship as the Spinebreaker's most notable legacy.

Who counselor is now? The Romulan madam and representative of that band of courtesans? probably not as she probably doesn't have the paper work.

Ship needs at least one telepath. A real telepath, not some borderline have to be touching the target Vulcan or half-baked empath.

Recommend Aenar for no other reason than I think they look cool and they are basically Andorian equivalent of elves.
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>>50004179
Don't want/need a straight man, whatever that is. I'd just prefer if there was more merit to /STG/'s first attempt at actual collective headcanon than "is quirky but also infallible space Jesus."
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>>50004092

You ain't wrong anon, and I'm the faggot who came up with borg captain.
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>>50004215
I second the Aenar as the new ships consular. Preferably one that isn't shut in like the other Aenar and is actually very ok with "embracing cultural differences" to promote mental and spiritual health?
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>>50004179
I don't know. Troi did on several occasions take the piss out of him to senior members of the crew. As someone who does suffer from quite a lot of the shit Barclay's character seemed to be aiming for I can honestly say I would rather receive a bit of physical abuse and would consider it a a good trade. Bruises heal a lot faster and don't wake you up a 3AM every mourning for a month or two with a no breaks reruns of all your mistakes and sins on loop for hours at a time because the brain is a merciless bastard with neither brakes nor eyelids.

And was Spinebreaker ever actually described as abusive? So far as I remember all she was described as was a no-nonsense direct attack method in everything.

Hence hiring "entertainment" specialists to improve moral. Why wait passively for problems to be carried to your door. Set out and break those problems before it gets to that for the good of all the crew.

In any case it's not much of an issue now if she retired to go back to her homeworld and rebuild her House.
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>>50004092
>You've basically made All Ricks, No Morty (But also the Ricks are invincible): the setting.

> INTRODUCING!
Ensign Moriarty B. Skinner

Moriarty "Mort" Skinner is 28 years old and still an Ensign. He's an Environmental Life Sciences Engineer, who reports to a Lieutenant J.G., who reports to a Lieutenant, who reports to Lieutenant Commander Reginald Barclay, who reports to the Captain. His duty post is Life Support Control Room #30, which is located in the far aft starboard side of the USS Ark Royal. It's a room which is full of LCARS consoles and acces panels that allow manual access to the life support subsystems for a good chunk of the ship.

The most noteworthy thing about Moriarty B. Skinner is his name, which was chosen because his father was an Englishman named Sherlock, and his mother an Englishwoman named Irene. Despite this, Moriarty does not speak with an English accent but a carefully-cultivated neutral Federation accent. He dislikes old literature, and the detective/crime drama genres in particular, and sometimes thinks about changing his name simply so people will stop joking about it. Seriously, his friends - all three of them - ALL gave him giant, hardback volumes of A.C. Doyle stories. He's read them all. He doesn't like them. The secondmost noteworthy thing about him is that he prefers a breeze, so he wears the skant. He's not in any way unmasculine, Scottish, transgendered, nor is he receiving regular fellatio whilst on-duty. He just prefers a breeze around his legs, and the regulations permit him to wear a uniform that grants one.

He's neither gay, nor straight, but comfortably utopically bisexual, though in a safe-for-late-20th-century-television manner that only ever sees him in overtly romantic or affectionate embrace with women. He's not neurotically insecure around people he finds sexually attractive, nor is he a studmuffin the likes of James Kirk or William T. Riker.

> Cont.
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>>50004517

He's a crewman, an engineering officer who does his job, does it well, and goes home to the cabin he shares with another Ensign eight years his junior. His hobbies include handbuilding antique clocks, collecting a geological sample from every planet he takes shore leave on, taking a paper and pencil rubbing of the dedication plaque of every ship and starbase he's ever set foot on and collecting them in a large book, and he has a green belt in shotokan karate.

It is safe to say that without the work done by Ensign Moriarty B. Skinner, the USS Ark Royal would be an objectively worse place to live and work. He's a very good life sciences environmental engineer, and under his watch, LSCR #30 operates at 99.98% of theoretical peak efficiency greater than 90% of its uptime, which is 2.1% higher than any other Life Support Control Room on the ship. His evaluations regularly feature the words "punctual," "efficient," "dedicated," and "reliable." Despite this, he has not been promoted, which does not worry him, as the average age for a promotion to Lieutenant J.G. throughout all of Starfleet is 29.

When the ship goes to Red Alert, Moriarty follows the regulations to the letter: He takes the Type 2 Hand Phaser and its belt out of the lockbox in LSCR #30, wraps it around his waist, and sits back down at his post. He does not take the precaution of locking the door, as that is not prescribed in the regs. He certainly does not hide in the Jeffries Tubes entrance in LSCR #30, lying in wait to shoot any hostiles who invade the room from a concealed position as his coworker does, and he files regular reports about her behavior in this matter that are summarily forwarded by the Lt. J.G. he reports to straight to dev/nul. Nor does he have any off-regulation weapons, booby traps, computer programs of hostile intent, personal sensor spime network, body armor or shield generator, nor any other array of extraordinary personal measures. He follows regulations to the letter.
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>>50004517
>>50004531

Jesus Christ mate passive aggressive much
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>>50004364
I didn't say Troi wasn't a shit, just that Spinebreaker would be worse, since Troi actually listened to Barclay, attempted to resolve his problems, and eventually realized that the late-80s "oh god, this neurotic guy is so funny" gossip was totally in the wrong for her as a mental healthcare professional and stopped doing that shit sometime around the time she got her ass promoted.

Whereas yes, Spinebreaker's nickname is very accurate, and her "therapy" technique was explicitly described as being to "punch the soft out of these weaklings and bring out their inner Klingon."
I'm actually imagining the old Captain ordering Ensign O'Mally to attend therapy with regards to that whole "So, you woke up in a new body; do you have any concerns that you're not, you know, you anymore?" continuity thing, and the two of them spending the entire therapy session glaring at one another and circling aggressively. Then the time's up, Spinebreaker says "good session," and O'Mally nods and slithers off back to her post.

>>50004606
Hey, a valid complaint was raised that the only crewmen we were featuring were quirky weirdos. So I provided a non-quirky, perfectly well-adjusted non-weirdo, a literally model Starfleet officer, who follows the regulations and exercises the leeway they give him, without finding ways to snap the intent behind them over his knee like Spinebreaker Trogarch would break someone with mommy issues.
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>>50004517
>>50004531
I feel as though something interesting should happen when this guy grows a beard. I know it's missing the point of him, but I feel as though he wouldn't be complete without it.
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Oh boy, I just had a thought: This ship doesn't have a Tactical Officer, does it?

>Rugoth, son of Goroth, of the House of Trogarch
>A Klingon warrior brought into the house of Trogarch by the Matriach herself after her mate died but before the house was dissolved.
>Fled with Spinebreaker as her personal guard, protecting her from all threats until they gained asylum from the Federation.
>Obsessed with weapons to such a degree that many consider him borderline insane, is senior tactical officer aboard U.S.S. Ark Royal.
>Responsible for ship to ship combat, has made many changes to the weapons systems, some of which Starfleet is very leery about.
>Modifications include but not limited to: Dual Spinal Phaser Lances in retractable housings, Wide Angle Quantum Torpedos both fore and aft, Rapid Fire Phaser Turrets, and a Quad Phaser Cannon that splits the bow seam on the nose of the ship.
>Said Torpedos are literally three torpedos worth of reaction mass crammed into one casing.
>Hates Innatubes with a passion not because of his reclusiveness, but because he has yet to share wine and spill blood together.
>Respects Jitters commitment to prepardness despite his cowardice for battle.
>Thinks the Matriach chose a fine mate.
>Has feelings for Grand High Cargo Bitch.
>Has made Klingon love poetry for said cargo bitch.
>Has yet to send them for reasons he cannot understand.
>Has a younger brother named Guroth who is better with weapons than he is.
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>>50004792
Na, CMDR Jitters was the tac officer
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>>50004792

>This ship doesn't have a Tactical Officer, does it?

There's the Kiryuin sisters, but real talk if I had to make a choice between them and this guy I'd pick this guy any day.
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>>50004792
>>Modifications include but not limited to: Dual Spinal Phaser Lances in retractable housings, Wide Angle Quantum Torpedos both fore and aft, Rapid Fire Phaser Turrets, and a Quad Phaser Cannon that splits the bow seam on the nose of the ship.
Can I just say that this sounds like more weaponry than a starbase packs?
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>>50004855
Jitters was security.

>>50004864
Same here. You know what Star Trek, even this variation, doesn't need? Anime.
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>>50004766
> Ensign Skinner grows a Beard.
>> Ensign Skinner knows environmental controls.
>>> An entire Naussican raiding party was turned into a pulpy mass of shattered bones and eviscerated organmeat on the floor when Ensign Skinner cranks the gravity in their section of corridor suddenly up to 50g, in a stunningly destructive move that Space Suit Dave went on record as saying was "slightly overkill" and which Lt. Commander Reginald Barclay quoted at least a week to fully repair the damage from; said damage included severe structural damage to the three decks above and the hull, as well as the total annihilation of the deck plating on which it happened.
>>> Ensign Skinner was immediately referred for mandatory psychological evaluation and penciled in as a possible promotion candidate to Lt. J.G. come the next round of crew evaluations.

Also, I figured out who his roomie is. Give me a bit to find a good pic.
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>>50004903
DS9 would like a word with you.

It's not a lot considering the ships size.
The Phaser Lances are forward only, though they are angled slightly away from each other at the business end for a wider arc of fire.
The Wide Angle torpedos are a full 180 degrees, and besides this and their increased destructive power, behave the same as normal ones.
The Turrets cover the gaps in the main phaser array but are less powerful, which they make up for in volume of fire.
The Quad cannons in the bow is an enlarged version of what the Defiant used, but the firing arc is shit despite the hitting power. at only about 45 degrees.

If anything, It should have a point defense phaser emitter system for those pesky shuttles/fighters/torpedos considering she is about the size of a small space station that can warp.
I skipped the beam banks because they're stupid.

Oh, another thought:
Should the Ark Royal have Ablative Hull Armor ala Voyager? What about a secondary deflector?
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>>50005193
And yet, we can clearly see that the vessel has beam banks, and tons of them.

Remember, the ship needs to pass outward muster as a "normal" Starfleet vessel. So it'll be rocking phasers and quantum torpedoes. But with this much concentrated eccentricity, they'll all be purple-graded top-tier Legendary phaser banks and torpedo launchers with the kind of power that a station-class reactor can put into them.
Probably the launchers are also armed with additional, off-regulation munitions that can be loaded and fired as necessary, like tricobalt devices and shit.

Otherwise, the truely egregious, major modifications are restricted to the ship's small craft squadrons. Remember, Ark Royal is a CARRIER. She has three Peregrine squadrons, a Runabout Squadron and a Delta Flyer squadron, all of them maintained in full combat spec.

> Point Defense
There is no greater point-defense available to starfleet than phaser beam banks which have been properly programmed for point defense, except possibly a squadron of fighters dedicated to shooting down incoming bullshit.

>Split the hull in two.
Wahahahahahaaaa whaaat?

> Ablative Hull Armor
Well, if we import one of the eccentrics from Voyager who got a good look at that atemporal ablative hull armor tech, possibly. But I imagine that otherwise, the Bureau of Temporal SticksUpOurAsses has that shit quarantined tight behind a wall labeled "break in case of chronological incursion."
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>>50005341
The line that bisecs the upper and lower portion of the saucer. You see it here >>49997970 really well. At the nose is where the quads would go, in a recess of course.
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>>50005410
That's not the Excalibur or the Seraphim, friend. Not even close.

I should probably stop posting all of these fan-made ships.
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>>50005410
This is not the Space Whale you're looking for.

THIS (pic related) is the Space Whale you're looking for.
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>>50005509
Sheeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiit. I've been thinking of the wrong ship the whole time.
Then just make a cubby holein the nose for the Quad cannons. Don't forget the shutter for when it's not in use. Can't look like we're SEEKING trouble now, we're Starfleet after all.

We don't start fights.
We finish them.
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Dunno if we're keeping borg cap, but thought I'd scribble something over the portrait and roll a bunch of times on a random name gen
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>>50005579
Installing forward-mounted cannons on a space whale that turns slow as shit? Are you SMOKING the gaght? Eating the Talaxian Spaceweed?
SMOKE the weed, EAT the gaght!
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>>50005579
> We're Starfleet.
>>We don't start fights.
>>We finish them.

That said, this? This is truth. This is such truth. Such truth I felt it needed to be quoted separately. For truth.
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>>50005579
>We don't start fights.
>We finish them.
the maquis are rolling their collective eyes anon
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Okay, so what if the space whale has multiple captains, each unaware of the other as they all report to different bridges and generally follow whatever order Starfleet throws at them
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>Also, I figured out who his roomie is.

> INTRODUCING
Ensign Aiko Demora Sulu.

Assigned to USS Ark Royal fresh out of Starfleet Academy, Aiko is a chronic overachiever, from a long line of chronic overachieving Starfleet officers that have become something of a dynasty, with an unbroken line of Starship service dating back almost 200 years. Some people would rebel against such a sense of legacy; not Aiko. At twenty years old, Aiko applied to and was accepted to Starfleet Academy at the age of 16, having achieved some college-level educational qualifications at an age when most teenagers are still Sophmores or Juniors. A lifelong Starfleet brat, Aiko has lived practically her entire life aboard one vessel or another and frankly, she knows how Starfleet ships operate more instinctually than some rear admirals.

Aiko was named for two of her distant ancestors; Sulu Aiko, the mother of the legendary Admiral Hikaru Sulu, and Captain Demora Sulu, the daughter of said luminary. During her final year at Starfleet Academy, she admitted to her roomie that she saw it as more or less an inevitable fate that if she didn't wind up dead in action or the ship retired/destroyed, she'd eventually end her Starfleet career in command of USS Excelsior, NCC-2000, as has every Sulu before her since Hikaru. This statement made its way to the shrinks, and got her labeled an eccentric with possible delusions of grandeur. Nevermind the fact that she's RIGHT, and every Sulu since Hikaru HAS wound up commanding that vessel until the day they retired. It's kind of a Starfleet tradition by now; it was enough to get her labeled, and the label got her assigned to USS Ark Royal.

That was a mistake, or possibly a cunningly calculated move.
> Cont.
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>>50005991

Does the whale have a size comparable to the SSD Freudian Nightmare?
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Aiko is assigned to the same cabin as Ensign Moriarty B. Skinner, with whom she does not get along. His "do my job, do it well, and wait patiently for more responsibility to be assigned to me" approach to his duties ill-suits her, and she thinks that he lacks for ambition and drive, and should be reassigned to a starbase, or even a ground-side installation. She is young, driven at everything she does, both her hobbies and her work. Aiko is a tactical officer, equally adept in the tactical analysis role as at a weapons console, and only slightly less of a helmswoman than she is a tactical officer. She isn't yet assigned to one of the Ark Royal's squadrons, but she's got her eyes set on Squadron 1 or 2, in the Delta Flyers or Danubes, viewing it as a fast track to promotion, which she can parlay into fast-tracking herself onto Ark Royal's bridge by demonstrating skill and decision-making abilities in a high-stress, high-autonomy environment. Currently, she's assigned as a junior tactical analyst, but her skill and her family name has her wearing a Lt. J.G.'s hat, reporting directly to Lt. Kiryuin Satsuki.

Aiko never goes off-shift when there's work still to be done; double shifts are common for her, triple-shifts are not infrequent, and quadruple shifts have been known to happen. Usually when this kind of thing happens, Lt. Kiryuin orders her to either go the hell to bed, or be manually restrained and taken to sickbay to be sedated. She has had to resort to such measures to get the driven Ensign Sulu off her feet before she collapsed at least once.

Ensign Sulu bonded fast with the Kiryuin sisters, following Ryuko's claim to have personally known her namesake ancestor Aiko, first officer on USS Amaterasu, NCC-1689 under Captain Kiryuin Ryuko in 2243-2244. This claim was proven true by Ryuko's relating a family legend to Aiko, that being the reason why Aiko's name was traditionally Japanese, but Hikaru and afterwards followed Western naming conventions.
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>>50006019

>Generic everyman paired with a classic turbosue

I can dig it
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>>50006019
>>50006038
When she's not focusing on her work or angling herself for promotion, Aiko pursues her hobbies vigorously. She has had a fascination with the art of dressmaking since she was ten years old, and is a certified expert in Starfleet uniforms, past, present, potential future, alternative, special purpose, and even alternate reality. She frequently designs and prototypes new uniforms, simply for the pleasure of it; her dress uniform designs, in particular, tend to be considered far more comfortable and stylish than Starfleet's regulation issued uniforms, and practical and ruggedized enough for everyday use if you don't mind semiformal attire. [Pictured modelling an early-2660s 'Grand Exploration' era Starfleet uniform.]

This hobby led her, in her mid-teens, to her second hobby, which is historical simulation reenactment in the holodeck; anything from the pre-Federation, Earth Starfleet era of NX-01 Enterprise, to reenacting the major battles and minor skirmishes of the Dominion War. Her knowledge of history is exhaustive in the domain of Starfleet's major and minor clashes, skirmishes, wars, and oddball encounters, and she has recently raised the possibility that the historically-recorded death of Charles 'Trip' Tucker, chief engineer of NX-01 Enterprise, was falsified, citing multiple and extreme incongruities with the state of NX-01 in the historical record with its state as of the time of the loss of its chief engineer.
>> She never realized that this discovery drew the wrath of Section 31, who did in fact falsify the historical record of Trip's death. Luckily for her, the Second 31 operative who attempted to silence her drew the attention of Lt. Hela, who dragged him into a closet, interrogated him, and arranged for him to die in an apparent freak accident involving unwisely playing with an Assimilated Tribble.

> cont.
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>>50006067
Most recently, her list of hobbies has expanded to include kendo and kenjutsu, thanks to the influence of the Kiryuin sisters. She isn't very good, and her last ancestor to be actually combat-effective with a sword was in fact Hikaru, a legendary fencier in French rapier style, but she's rapidly driving her roommate crazy filling her half of the cabin with shinai, bokuta, FREAKING KATANAS SERIOUSLY ARE YOU TURNING INTO ONE OF THOSE CRAZY NUTS TOO, and Kendo armor, which she gleefully merges with Starfleet uniform design aesthetics. She's taken to wearing a tanto blade with her uniform, and cited 'utility knife' as an acceptable device for an officer to wear, as well as a phaser pistol which has been modified with a hardware infinity-modulating chip to defeat Borg adaptation.

In an emergency, she's located very near to the good hardware, working in a tactical analysis room run by Kiryuin Ryuko, and follows the room proceedure; as the juniormost officer in the room, she dons a Tactical Conn Exosuit and arms herself with a full-auto-capable compression phaser rifle with which she covers the door, while the nextmost junior officer dons armor and draws their weapon, etc. As a tactical operator operating tactically, she's more robust than most Starfleet officers, though that only makes her about average on the Ark Royal, which sees weekly hostile boarding actions, but she's getting a rapid education in the school of on-the-job training in that field, since Ryuko frequently abandons the tactical analysis room to lead her analysts in counter-boarding operations. Aiko does not mind this, seeing that on this ship, the best defense is to be a robust motherfucker, and combat commendations can only help further her career.
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>>50005604
Captain Imogen Bailey it is!

>>50005669
That was pre-Dominion War Starfleet.
After getting the shit kicked out of them for that attitude, the mood has changed, and post-2375 Starfleet would look a lot like post-2275 Starfleet in attitude towards foes foreign and domestic.

>>50005991
No.
>>50006024
Not EVEN close, thankfully. It's about 35-50% larger than a Galaxy-class; longer, wider, with a far bulkier engineering hull, but it's not "obliged to camp in the corridors" huge.

>>50006045
Thank you. I try.
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>>50006067
Errrr, 2360s, derp. Typographical error, there.
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What do you guys think? Act of Q? Alternate dimension bleed? Sexy but nah, let's not?
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>watching TNG on NetFlix
>see from the thumbnail it's an Alexander episode
>watch five minutes
>it's also a Luxana episode
Kill me
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>>50007198
If I didn't know it was SW I would say it fits in perfectly with Trek. Actually, screw it, they probably fit in better in ST than SW.
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>>50008331
I know what episode it is just from that.
It's not worth it.
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>>50008460
I haven't skipped a single episode yet, I'm not starting now!
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>That TNG episode where the ship gets royally fucked and Troi is left as the highest ranking officer on the bridge
>Everyone has a look of horror when they realize this, especially Troi
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>>50008460
Your determination is respectable, if misplaced.
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>>50004792
>>50004903
>>50005193
>>50005341
I don't think that the ship should be given ALL OF THE WEAPONS can take on a Tactical Cube by its onsies. It's just too grand.

Rugoth son of Goroth, House of Trogarch, should have his Full Tactical in another way. He runs scenarios as a hobby and obsesses over the weapons that the ship does have.

Under his watch no phaser array is allowed to operate under and estimated 97% of full effectiveness. Any that do so get a maintenance team or himself going down to strip all the components and have them cleaned, replaced or whatever needs doing to get that shit back up to par.

No more than one weapon system is allowed to be offline at any time for the sort for maintenance that requires a shut down.

He wears body armour incorporated into his standard issue Starfleet uniform. Technically against regulations but compared to the other shit going on in the Ark Royal nobody gives a shit. Uniform is always pristine, his equipment is polished to a mirror shine and carefully ordered at all times, stickler for following bridge protocol and all the little ceremonies, likes official parades and brass bands.

His efforts to achieve 100% fighting effectiveness on the Ark Royal are and will always be hampered by the rest of the crew. In much the same way as the previous captain gave permission to the shuttle crews to pimp their rides so similar allowances have been made to the weapons teams.

The Ark Royal only has 2 phasers left. Aft upper port and prow lower starboard. And whilst aft is standard issue Starfleet the prow one is an Andorian variant.

The rest of the "phaser" arrays are an irregular collection of tetryon, anti-proton, poloron and disrupter beams. On the one hand it makes that shit very difficult to coordinate, on the other goo luck adapting to that Borg. Also makes ship in combat look like angry disco ball.
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>>50008538
Could be worse, at least Geordie doesn't fall in love with a figment of his imagination.
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>all this fanfic in this thread
>it's still better than some official stuff
Here is the current event in the Star Trek: Timelines mobage (basic story: all timelines and all timeframes are thrown together so Disruptor Beam can sell you gachas of all the characters in every different costume and circumstance):
>Doctor Noonian Soong ran out of time to perfect his androids, the temporal anomaly crisis has given him a second chance. With the benefit of being able to study Data, Lore and B4's development since his death, Doctor Soong has come to a startling conclusion: the physicality of an android is actually a hinderance to the development of an artificial life form. The true artificial lifeform isn't bound by the limitations of a physical body, but moves at the speed of thought, more like a hologram. To that end, with the help of the Augments, Doctor Soong has begun experiments in creating a new artificial lifeform, a fusion of hologram and android. This has attracted attention from his "son," Lore, who objects to the notion that androids like himself are flawed and has recruited the Romulans to his cause. Holograms and Androids alike who object to this research but do not trust Lore have found a champion in Winn Adami and the Bajorans, who argues that these new lifeforms are given sentience by the Prophets, not men.
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>>50007198

Let's not. We're at critical waifufaggotry mass as it is.
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>>50004215
>>50004262

Alright.

Aenar counsellor.

Mid twenties, or Andorian equivalent age. Visits Andoria quite regularly due to the fact that her husband is senior member of the construction guild of the old city state of her people and can't leave because of his job. She has three pale blind children that sometimes spend time on the ship but spend most of their time back on Andoria because the Ark Royal maybe isn't a very safe place to raise a family.

Her job from the point of view of Starfleet is to keep the crew sane or at least stable and detect psychic bullshit.

From the point of view of her people she is on a Federation ship for much the same reason as the Onnahull Mudd Androids are. Her duty to her people is to keep an eye on shit happening off-world and write home often.

Like much of her people she is all but incapable of violence because her telepathic abilities make second hand pain bleed across and that shit is unpleasant. can use psychic echo location to "see" but can't detect colour.

Is usually very cheerful and of the opinion that a hug is the cure all for most immediate psychological problems. Oddly seems to work at least in the short term, possibly she is unconsciously imprinting "happy and calm" on peoples minds due to close proximity. Either way it's a sharp contrast to her predecessor. Likes the "occasional" drink and seems to have two hollow legs and a liver like a galvanized water tank.

Typically wears light summer dresses due to the unreasonably warm nature of the ship. Keeps her quarters at no warmer than -10°C.
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>>50010459

>a fusion of hologram and android

How the fuck
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>>50010326

This is way better. Fits in more with the inventive madmen angle than "they have all the best guns evar1!11".
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>>50010513
Android legs with a holo projector that creates the upper half?
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Exocomp that projects a hologram of a person? I don't know; this is the first time I've actually read the story to one of the events. Make's STO's writing look like Shakespeare in comparison.
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>>50008438
I was gonna do it, but then a friend asked me to run our D&D 1-shot. He killed a sahaugin Samurai. As a Bard/Wizard. Thanks to the magic of barricades, arbalests, and lots and lots of friends.

So I'll do it now.

>>50010473
NO BRAKES ON THIS WAIFUTRAIN!
Seriously, don't like it, write some more men, like Rugoth, Son of Goroth of the House of Trogarch. I write what I like. Space Suit Dave gets grandfathered in. :P
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>>50010513
>>50010529
Basic mannequin with projectors, computer and power source built in maybe.

Or Red Dwarf with a floating hologram projector floating at about the centre of the projection.
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> INTRODUCING
Lieutenant Liu

In January of 2376, the Galaxy-class USS Dauntless, NCC-71879, returning from the rigors of the Dominion War to Starfleet's ideals of peaceful exploration, ventured farther past Cardassia than Starfleet vessels had ever gone before, along with a host of Starfleet's other brightest ships, including the Excelsior-class USS Excelsior, NCC-2000, spreading out in a wave of surveying and exploration.

Dauntless was led by chance to a rogue planetoid, an icy black ball in interstellar space. Mostly unremarkable, save for detecting processed metals of unknown compounds. Upon turning the Galaxy-class vessel's powerful sensors upon the vessel, which was very small, they discovered something remarkable [Pic Related], set down upon the iceball, operating at minimal power levels. Beaming to the vessel's interior, they discovered a vessel which was entirely unlike anything Starfleet had encountered before; not only was it made to an entirely unknown design aesthetic, but it shared no technological heritage or even design ethos in common with any known systems. Analysis indicated traces of long-ago chroniton particle bullshit, consistent with traversing a wormhole that bridged both space AND time.

Aboard were only two inhabitants: one was a robotic drone of some sort, deactivated; the other was a young child, approximately of five years of age, of unknown race and preserved in some kind of carbon-based solid stasis block. There was the trace of a third; an adult woman's wardrobe was discovered in the vessel's cabin, including a headdress clearly worn by an adult member of the same race, as well as various dresses, robes, and practical outfits. A pile of robes was discovered on the floor of the main hold, along with a melee weapon, an energy blade of unknown technology, but no mortal remains.

>cont.
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>>50010625

The vessel had been stuck on the iceball for approximately 1,500 years, and even after warping to where the iceball was located 1500 years ago, Dauntless discovered traces of a long-ago lost wormhole connection, but was unable to restore it.

The girl was rescued, and given the name Liu; deactivating the single-use stasis block was a simple enough affair. The vessel, which was small enough to fit in the Galaxy-class main shuttlebay, was transported to Starfleet Command, where it is now impounded, while the Bureau of Temporal Affairs tries to decide if reverse-engineering something which apparently came from the distant past and a faraway place, possibly another dimension entirely (not as if Starfleet hasn't encountered plenty of those before) is a violation of the Temporal Prime Directive.

The girl was telepathically contacted by Betazoid crew aboard Dauntless, and found to be suffering from amnesia, possibly intentional. She was safeguarded by members of the crew, eventually adopted by the ship's guidance counselor, a Bajoran by the name of Liu Nallis. She was given a personal name, but chooses not to use it, preferring to hope that one day, she will remember the name she was given as a child. She adapted quickly, with a voracious appetite for learning. Twenty years later, Liu is a Starfleet officer, a Tactical-path pilot assigned to the third of the Peregrine squadrons aboard Ark Royal, where she flies as Red Five, the squadron XO.
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>>50010658
When off-duty, Liu seems to have a natural talent for social graces and enjoys competitive sword arts, fencing with Bajoran traditional one-handed weapons, though the Kiryuin sisters have had great success introducing her to kendo. Through the two of them, she met Ensign Sulu, whom she hopes to be flying with someday, and for whom she's more than happy to model uniforms for. She plays a mean bajoran lute, and is one of the few people crazy enough, with reaction speeds fast enough, to operate a hoverbike, which she loves to do when on shore leave, because very little is quite as fun for her as riding a speeding gofast with her braintails trailing out behind her.

When Red Alert is declared, Liu's duty is to scramble for Shuttlebay 4, where her Peregrine is stored, don her Tactical Conn Exosuit (with custom helmet for her braintails,) and proceed to the cockpit. As a result, she doesn't often get involved in the traditional fights aboard Ark Royal, spending most of them in the cockpit, waiting for the order to launch. Nevertheless, she wears a weapon belt at all times, containing a standard Federation hand phaser with an i-Mod chip, a tricorder, and four stun grenades.
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>>50010715
Gah. I forgot the temporary body art hobby. Though it's less 'making it' as 'being a canvas for it'.
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>>50010658
Sonofa - I also forgot the uniform pic? I am just a red-hot mess tonight! Bloody 1 AM D&D.
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>>50010326
Okay, now I like him. "Angry Discowhale" is greeeaat.

>>50010476
I like her so much better than Spinebreaker Trogarch, even if she probably is a spy. Pity she's married, but c'est la vie. Her husband a boss and a sir, and a very lucky man indeed.
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> INTRODUCING
Commander Amanda Jung, the Head of Personnel.

Amanda Jung is an albino Chinese-American human woman from Flushing, New York. A brilliant bullshit artist and lateral-thinking rank-climber without compare, Amanda's goal in life is to achieve as high a rank as possible, with as much personal autonomy and authority as possible, and as little responsibility as possible.

Amanda graduated from New York University with an advanced degree in the liberal arts at the age of 22. She promptly moved to Starbase 13 and joined Starfleet as an Enlisted Crewwoman, a Cargo Technician. She proceeded to climb the enlisted ranks in spectacularly efficient manner, such that by the age of 25 she was the Quartermaster of Starbase 13, and by 26 she was the Chief of Operations for Starbase 13, a post which required she hold the rank of Senior Chief Petty Officer. One single more promotion - which she somehow navigated her way to at 26 - left her as Master Chief Petty Officer, the Head of Personnel.

She wasn't on the job more than two days before she filed the paperwork indicating her intention to transfer from Enlisted to the Officer ranks. Her stratospheric rank, the highest non-unique NCO rank in Starfleet, allowed her to transfer to the Command track directly as a Lt. Commander. Some might have thought this effort doomed to failure. Indeed, it was a long shot, but Amanda had long since earned the ire of the commander of Starbase 13, who never could find the technicality he needed to bust her. So in a Uriah Gambit, he not only OKayed her advanced rapid officer corps induction, he actually personally recommended her for assignment to USS Ark Royal.

That wasn't to be immediately; Amanda was inducted at the rank of Lt. Commander, and spent two years aboard an Ambassador-class starship exploring beyond the bounds of the Federation's charted space.

> cont.
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>>50011344
Aboard that Ambassador class vessel, Amanda managed to burrow her way into the most obscure niche of the Command track possible, being a bureaucratic officer with no direct subordinates, but directly subordinate to the executive officer alone. In that post, she managed to steer the ship's bureaucracy - which the XO hated, and often delegated to her - in a manner which was, generally speaking, highly beneficial to the ship's operations, if often irregular, and always with an eye towards quietly praising herself.

Thanks to this, when the old XO was killed on an away team, having heroically thrown himself in the way of a plasma blast to save a young Security ensign (at least that's what the report and the survivors of the away team, including one Lt. Cmdr Amanda Jung, agree is what happened, and no, there was no truth to the rumor that she and Lt. Cmdr. Jung were an item,) Amanda was breveted to the rank of Commander and made the ship's executive officer.

This situation stuck for more than six months, as the Ambassador was far beyond the Federation at the time. Amanda also gained some notoriety when the vessel encountered and took shore leave on an absolutely enormous flying city-ship full of transhumans who cheerfully referred to themselves as Scum, as she voluntarily underwent some fairly major and significant body modifications, mostly under-the-hood stuff. The insinuation that she arranged for goodwill transfer of resources and information to help facillitate this heavy modification are unfounded and baseless, and anyway, you can't really tell unless you're (a) wielding a medical tricorder, or (b) viewing her without her trousers.


Upon returning to the Federation, she invoked an obscure regulation dating from the 2240-44 Four Years' War that states that an officer who has been breveted to a given rank for half a year or more may apply to have it stick, and it stuck. For the Captain of the Ambassador, this was the final straw.
> cont.
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>>50011387
The Captain of that Ambassador wasn't going to have this freewheeling, ladder-climbing hermaphrodite as the executive officer on his ship for good, goddamnit! But he couldn't find the grounds to block her application to have her rank stick. So, having spent a long evening sharing Aldeberan Whiskey with her last commanding officer aboard Starbase 13, he wrote a glowing recommendation for her transfer, stating that she was too unique and skilled to languish on such a small vessel. He suggested transfer to USS Ark Royal.

With two prior commanders recommending her for transfer to Ark Royal, Amanda boarded the ship in the company of Faith O'Mally. As a Commander, she holds a rank high enough to be first officer, but the existing Orion XO has prior claim. The two of them expected to both move up when the old Rigelian Hardass and Spinebreaker Trogarch retired, but Starfleet instead assigned Captain Imogen Bailey. That's just fine by Amanda.

As a Commander, she's technically the thirdmost senior officer aboard Ark Royal, but holding the post of Head of Personnel - much more prestigious on a Starship than a Starbase - she takes over the crew-review-and-assignment duties that on most ships are handled by the XO. This suits the both of them just fine, as it means the Orion doesn't have to do as much paperwork, and Amanda gets to wield tremendous amounts of personal power and authority, with practically no personal responsibility to go with it, and the direct oversight an officer who couldn't care less what she does as long as she continues to be a tigress in bed and prevents her from having to do paperwork.

> Cont.
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>>50011344
>>50011387
>>50011424

>deeply flawed bureaucracy exploiting social climber relegated to the reject ship to get rid of her

Neat

>dickgirl

nigga really
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>>50011424
As the Head of Personnel, Amanda Jung has full access to all the crews' files, and is the officer responsible for conducting crew evaluations and reports, and recommending crew for promotions and commendations. She's also the officer that all the 'small' departments, such as the Quartermaster's office, Arboretum, Operations, etc, report to - anyone who doesn't directly report to the XO or the head of another department, which means anyone who isn't a major department as the XO hates having tons of small offices and departments reporting to her - directly report to, giving her an unusually high level of authority and ability to steer the ship's direction by allocating personnel, resources, and at times, direct orders.

She avoids the Bridge like the plague, if at all possible conducting all of her work out of her office, which is safely located centrally in the saucer. Being sufficiently far from visiting dignitaries has given her considerable leeway to modify her office, and if comfy to the max, in the same manner as the Aft Cargo Bay Office (she got them to do the modifications,) and including a weapons and armor locker, and concealed emergency egress to the Kingdom of Innatubes. Dave leaves her unmolested, as it was her doing that saw to it that he retained his official rank and changed his name on record to 'Innatubes.'

Amanda wears a large, heavy leather satchel and a full toolbelt at all times. She carries an internal oxygen supply with mask on her person, and has at all times a standard Federation hand phaser and a larger Compression Disruptor PDW modified for full-auto fire in her satchel, along with random bits and bobs of god-knows-what. She prevailed upon Rugoth to modify her duty uniforms with body armor like his. One might accuse her of being a coward, but this is not so; she is simply familiar with her limitations, and in a crisis, employs hit-and-run tactics to thin enemy ranks if vastly superior firepower is not available. >cont.
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>>50011466

Also not going to lie, I can now see why this character got you headbanned on d20
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>>50011466
Hey, is it a flaw? Or does it add character? Either way, it's true to the character who inspired her.

>>50011467
Now, Amanda sits comfortably in the heart of a web of bureaucracy and lateral authority, exercising vast amounts of nominal authority with relatively little personal responsibility, exactly the way she prefers it. On this ship, full of extraordinary individuals, she doesn't stand out very much, not even after she decided to see just how few fucks the Orion XO would give and grew her hair to four foot long and had it changed to dazzling Windex blue. She goes off the rails regularly, coordinating the irregular members of the crew in defiance of the standard hostile boarding action and lending the veneer of official sanction to the often extreme measures taken by the more bloodthirsty members of the crew in cleaning house, since it's quite easy to rubberstamp such measures as having been necessary, after the fact. As such, the irregulars love her, and can frequently call upon her for favors and unusual access, which she is happy to provide for anyone who provides her with unusual, off-books services and equipment. With the departure of Spinebreaker Trogarch, the squad of "Morale & Entertainment Specialists" reports directly to her, since the new, actual psychiatrist wanted little to do with them.

When not on duty, or when business in her office is slow, Amanda can frequently be found in the vicinity of Main Engineering or the Sickbay, cultivating relationships with engineers and doctors, particularly the chiefs of both departments, whom she feels needs considerable extra mollifying owing to her holding rank over them despite being at least fifteen years their junior. The fact that she took enough extension courses to be able to throw in and lend a hand in engineering or medbay when directed to do so goes a long way towards that goal. > Cont.
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>>50011508

>Hey, is it a flaw? Or does it add character?

Yes
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>>50011485
>Also not going to lie, I can now see why this character got you headbanned on d20
It's not like it ever came the fuck up on d20 Station. Please.
Amanda's ERP was kept safely out of BYOND, via other chat mechanisms.

>>50011508
Otherwise, she can usually be found in Ten-Forward, with a custom bamboo-case Reading PADD, as frankly, her job can be done from anywhere on the ship. This leads to the crew very often coming to her with a "Hop, I've got a question" or "Hop, can I have..." or "Hop, I wanna talk about my evaluation," which Amanda always responds to unless doing something actually important, which is seldom. Thus, she's kind of perpetually both on- and off-duty, which suits her just fine, and she encourages the crew to refer to her by the diminutive of her job title.

Amanda's hobbies include reading and writing literature, especially thriller novels, taking a dilettante's myriad of extension training courses without any particular goal in mind (just whatever looks good at the time,) encouraging the crew to be the eccentric cornucopia of excellent neurotics that they are, and occasionally, when the Captain and XO are incommunicado, pulling rank, assuming command of a shitty situation, and engaging in THRILLING HEROICS.

She also tends to accumulate all of the best off-books prototype/experimental/foreign/illegal equipment that gets confiscated from random crew/hostile boarders, which she doles out to the ship's various excellent eccentrics to curry their favor, though she keeps quite a bit of it for herself. This leads to her having a reputation as a robust crewman, though the truth is that a lot of her ability in such situations is equipment advantage from having the first pick of the best and rarest stuff, rather than hardcore capability.
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>>50011543
>>50011508
>>50011467
>>50011424
>>50011387
>>50011344
amanda jung has never been/never will be a good head of personnel or any job with any responsibility

source: he plays ss13 and is terrible at it
critique on writing:
>amanda jung is a prodigy and pretty much everything goes her way and some people don't like her but that's okay nothing comes of it
this has shocking similarity to their time as a ss13 player minus the "nothing bad ever happened" part
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>>50011543

>implying I was referring to the dickgirl and not "maximum power, minimum responsibility"
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>>50011571
Hey, it's not my fault nobody ever signed up to be the Captain. When there actually WAS a Captain, I gladly did what the hell they told me to do, but in the absence of the Captain, the HoP is the effective commanding officer.

>>50011569
I was a great HoP, Engineer (Chief or otherwise,) and a passable doc. You were just a shitty asshole who thought that personal robustness should be the determiner of authority rather than, say, any ability to manage a situation and channel the efforts of a bunch of paranoid neurotics by bending like a leaf on the wind to the whims of the right ones and giving them the leeway to do what they needed to do to preserve station integrity and defend the station from its foes, foreign and domestic.

Amanda Jung is okay in a crisis on her own. Her real robustitude is the ability to quickly rally persons more robust than herself to deal with the situation, and the willingness to say "You know what, there's no captain here, I'm in charge, I'm okaying feeding this sonofabitch into the meatgrinder."
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>>50011620
>great hop
the one that chased down anyone they didn't like with the armory and then murdered them before the round was five minutes in was something i've seen even first time players manage to avoid
>engineer
exploiting the teg every round after being told not to was a great way to show your knowledge of how gases interact and how to manage power
>passable doc
>literally injecting them with everything on the list including sleep toxin then acting surprised when someone has to feed them active charcoal to get all that shit out of them
you valid hunted and tried to start a shit storm every time you thought you had been wronged, not to mention tried to take roles of responsibility without knowing anything about the jobs under them

good thing d20 is dead so we don't have to deal with your apparent mary sue dickgirl character and evidently having some sort of embarassing fanfiction to go along with it that seems completely unrelated to whatever this thread is even about

also hence why you're banned from hop/command roles/security/medical/engineering/science and I think cargo and silicon
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>>50011685
>the one that chased down anyone they didn't like with the armory and then murdered them before the round was five minutes in was something i've seen even first time players manage to avoid
Never did that; not without reason to suspect treason, anyway. Half the time not even then.

>exploiting the teg every round after being told not to was a great way to show your knowledge of how gases interact and how to manage power
A: If you didn't like it, should've nerfed heaters.
B: I could manage the thermo well enough on plasma. Thing is, watching a cranky engine gets old after a while, and d20 was great for long rounds and pet projects. Nobody wants to babysit a fucking gas-burning furnace for up to six hours at a time.

>literally injecting them with everything on the list including sleep toxin then acting surprised when someone has to feed them active charcoal to get all that shit out of them
And why shouldn't you do that with a fully-upgraded Sleeper? My objective was simple: get them back to full health, not perfectly calculate exactly how much of what would do that and not one mole more. No drawbacks for pumping them full of extra drugs means you might as well load them with all the beneficial drugs.
>> Sleep Tox
If I hit someone with sleep tox, it was (a) a misclick, or (b) a prelude to murdering them for some reason.
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>>50011685
>you valid hunted
Says you, the fucking king of valid salad, who set up shitty improvised booby traps in the back approaches to the armory every SINGLE FUCKING TIME you joined as Head of Security, which you did without fail any time you actually played. Then you stripped and brigged anyone you could come up with any reason for doing so to, then stormed down to my office and DEMANDED I demote them to assistant, and if I refused, guess who ignored the stated rules regarding which officers had what authority to break into my office with the Captain's Goldcard, attack me, brig and demote ME, and then do it your own damn self anyway?

I only went hunting when someone was obviously raising trouble; I only killed to remove someone who ABSOLUTELY was going to come back and try to murder me/someone else later. Otherwise I just chillaxed and followed live-and-let-live.
YOU without fail went looking for a fight, because you're super-skilled at clickfast and liked to show it off.

>not to mention tried to take roles of responsibility without knowing anything about the jobs under them
I never claimed to be the best engineer, or best doctor. But I was a good damn engineer, and a good enough doctor. Moreover, you don't need to be the best at doing something to have authority over those who do; you need to be the best at managing those who are the best at doing those things.

Nobody liked you, Freeman, because when you were playing, every round invariably became /k/ommando bullshit with you running around with a nugget on your back, egun on your vest, a pile of handcuffs on your waist, and a backpack full of absurd robust improvised bullshit, busting everybody on the station for the slightest of offenses until the population consisted of you as High Grand Comdom and everybody else as prisoners for you to drag onto the shuttle and declare Mission Accomplished.

>good thing d20 is dead
You killed it, so, mission accomplished? Gratz, Freeman. GG, no re.
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>>50011779
>killed a clown five minutes into the round because you were triggered they had "nigger" in their name and killed them while they were minding their own
>"if you didn't like it you should have fixed it"
>too bad there was nothing there to fix because heaters were a bandaid mechanic from probably 2010
>you were literally the only person who had the mindset of wanting to do this every single round
>can't be arsed to learn how to set up a long burn that lasts for hours

>doesn't remember injecting everyone with everything ever then acting surprised when they don't wake up
>>50011812
the only "traps" I ever set up are basic security barriers and that mouse trap that spawns back there for whatever reason
>ignored the rules
of which there were three very highly subjective rules open to interpretation none of them stating that I can't do that if you're being retarded as evidently the "person who wants to sit around and tell other people what to do but not actually do anything themselves"
>killed someone who was going to come back and kill me
sure thing officer jung kill that criminal before they commit a crime
>best at managing people
>when you know d20 is low pop and you have to know how to do things yourself and not just tell people what to do
as evidenced by you literally any retard can tell engineers to "go start the engine and do engineering stuff" when they're already perfectly capable of solving problems by themselves, you don't manage anyone
>lmao dude nobody liked you
that's totally why you're banned tho isn't it??
the only contact you had with me is when i'm beating you up usually because you're acting retarded

reminder you're in a star trek thread evidently trying to force your space station 13 fantasies onto it
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>killed a clown five minutes into the round because you were triggered they had "nigger" in their name and killed them while they were minding their own
Right, because blatantly offensive disgusting assholery that should have earned them a BAN on OOC grounds but won't because you're a bigoted asstard should be tolerated.

>>you were literally the only person who had the mindset of wanting to do this every single round
>>can't be arsed to learn how to set up a long burn that lasts for hours
Right, because I REALLY feel like spending days of my life experimenting with fucking gaseous fluid dynamics that SORT OF resemble real physics only not really to figure out exact proper ratios to get a perfect ideal long burn because SOMEONE knows the secret but won't tell anyone because "git gud."
You have no cause to say "physics" in a game where space is literally cold, and this is exploited to form the cooling loop of a thermal exchange generator.

>>doesn't remember injecting everyone with everything ever then acting surprised when they don't wake up
Never happened on my watch. If you nerfed chemistry by adding overdose mechanics, it happened after I stopped playing.

>of which there were three very highly subjective rules open to interpretation none of them stating that I can't do that if you're being retarded as evidently the "person who wants to sit around and tell other people what to do but not actually do anything themselves"
Oh, so when YOU interpret the rules, you're in the right because you're the more violent, more capable clickfast capable of taking down most of a station by yourself, but when I interpret them, I'm being retarded.
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>>50011928
there's a reason why players don't make the rules or enforce them
this is why
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>>50011928
>sure thing officer jung kill that criminal before they commit a crime
Kill them, or leave them in the permabrig, after first having taken pains to remove all the shit that spawned in the permabrig that would allow someone thrown in there without it being cleared out to escape, loot the armory, and come back for revenge?

Nah. If I catch someone up to obviously murderous shit and there's nobody on the station who's going to dedicate their time to controlling them, I'm just getting them fuck gone so I don't have to deal with them, because, guess what, the HoP is NOT the Warden, and has better things to do, including sweet fuck-all. There's a reason nobody but you ever played security, Freeman.

>as evidenced by you literally any retard can tell engineers to "go start the engine and do engineering stuff" when they're already perfectly capable of solving problems by themselves, you don't manage anyone
"You start the engine, I'm going to be busy setting up solars/optimizing the engineering wiring" is just fine. Oh, and I had no problems starting up the thermo. I just made sure to include the step "include expansion ports for future freezers and heaters so that once R&D has done their thing, we can cut off the gas and enjoy free energy so nobody ever has to worry about their shit being interrupted by a power outage."

>that's totally why you're banned tho isn't it??
Yes, dude. YOU banned me because you didn't like the way I played, and I refused to play on a server where an abusive asshole like you got to be an admin because you had a high tolerance for spaghetti coding and a moderate talent for spriting.

>reminder you're in a star trek thread evidently trying to force your space station 13 fantasies onto it
Reminder that YOU'RE the salty motherfucker lording over a dead server whose regular population you steadily drove off and shitting up our glorious Star Trek headcanon.
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>>50011942
No, Freeman. The rules I'm talking about were IC rules, which you felt free to ignore because you were good enough at exploiting that game's shitty, shitty robusting engine that nobody could effectively contest your "interpretation" of the rules which included "head of security trumps everybody he can beat up and take away the ID card of if they refuse to do exactly what he says."

As for the OOC, server rules, those were clearly written so jackasses like YOU never had to face admonishment. "Don't be a dick."
> Joining with the name 'nigger' isn't being a dick.
> Forcibly changing people to be absurd racist caricatures with horrifically offensive names isn't being a dick.
>> Yet forcibly ending the round when someone is doing that is.

You were shit, Freeman. Get lost.
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>and now we're literally making up "IC" rules that don't exist and never did exist

reminder that you are in a star trek thread still salty about things that occurred on d20 and are trying to write a mary sue story with your dickgirl self insert character on ""starbase 13"" into an unrelated thread
you may actually be worse than whiteagle
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>>50012007
> Deeply flawed character on a ship full of deeply flawed characters.
>> Mary Sue

Whatever, Freeman. I'm done responding to you. Go invade /tg/station and get your valids.

> Captcha: Select the houses.
>> An Italian Piazza is a house.
> Clearly, we be Ezio Auditore da Firenze up in this shit.
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As someone who walked away from SS13 back in the /tg/station days, it is nice to see my decision vindicated by the fact that the community never recovered from going to complete shit, even across different servers.

t. former /tg/station head coder
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>>50011982
Not to mention you're bigoted against people using the word nigger.

Are you white? It fits that you're demanding authoritarian censorship against black people expressing their cultural heritage.
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>>50012040
>"deeply flawed"
>in the span of four years promoted to 'the person under everyone' position
>everything convinently allowing the character to traverse ranks with no problems
>'people don't like my character but they actually do' in an effort to make them looked flawed without actually giving them flaws
>magically put character into a position where they are "outside" the loop of the system but manage to make it "highly beneficial to the ship"
>promoted again due to convenience
>voluntarily undergoing '''body modifications''' and calling it a flaw
>conveniently promoted and transferred again, to a place where they have "tremendous amounts of personal power and authority and no personal responsibility" (which aptly describes how you tried to play head of personnel since you would just expect people to lie down and deal with your bullshit)
>convenient office placement
>convenient loadout of always having everything always (also describing how you take your head of personnel access and raid the armory god forbid anyone who is black or uses the word nigger in your vicinity comes within a twenty meter radius of you)
>conveniently, none of the other staff on the station care about anything the character does
pretty much the only flaw I can see is "this character is not robust but because they're a mary sue they get to keep a host of top of the line gear because reasons" which also describes how you abused head positions just because you didn't like to actually do anything but also wanted people to listen to you no matter how little
>>50012043
it only gets worse every day
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>ah, finally the weekend after a tough week at work
>let's see what's new in the star trek thread
>it's two people's private chat about ss13 and pages of rambling about characters I don't care about
kill me.
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>>50012390
Remember when we had a guy try and work out the chromosome makeup of the Andorian's 4 genders? I miss that /stg/
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> Be Commander Amanda Jung, the Head of Personnel.
> Be off-duty, very off-duty, about to go to sleep.
> Return to cabin. It's a nice cabin. Spacious, and empty save for you.
>> Use sensors in your head equivalent to tricorder to determine emptiness.
> Get undressed, go to shower, lean against the wall.

>> Boss? It's the anniversary again. You sure you wanna do this?
>>> It's that voice in your head - in this case, a personal protosapient AI assistant you picked up when you arranged for a massive goodwill exchange of tech, resources, and information to those transhuman tech-lovers.
>>> She's reminding you of the anniversary of the day of your brevet promotion to Commander. As if you could forget.
> Run Macro A.JungPsiCheck
>> Computer reports that no telepathic crewmembers are within 150m of your position, and their lifesigns and commbadge taps report that they're either asleep or engaged in other activities that require full concentration.
> Can't be too careful about some things. Go ahead and do it.

> Memories in your head - Commander Taggart heroically throwing himself between a Nausican bandit's plasma pistol and a redshirt - are flagged as false, losing color. Real memories come flooding back

> Be Lt. Cmdr Amanda Jung, Executive Officer's Adjutant, USS Ambassador, NCC-10521.
>> Be on Away Team to an outside-Federation settlement. Rough town.
>>> Away Team has been ambushed by local bandits with transporter scramblers, chased into a disused industrial facility. Be tactically advancing beside Commander Taggart, whilst Security Ensigns Shalla (with whom you are having a very regulations-compliant affair,) and Bates (with whom you are not) and Science Ensign O'Mally (whom you barely know) cover the rear.
>> Be terrified, as this shit is not what you signed up for at all. Cannot deny the thrill, but overall would rate the experience 3.5/10 would not boldly go again.
>> Suddenly: Naussican!

> Cont.
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>>50012429
As a computer programmer who knows practically nothing about biology, I would just have the order of the chromosomes matter.

Then, conveniently, you have your 4 sexes with two chromosomes:
>XX
>XY
>YX
>YY
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>50012519
>> Suddenly: Naussican! With some kind of nasty fucking plasma handcannon, aiming roughly at Commander Taggart.
> Have always been quick. Not necessarily the fastest to reach a for the right object, or the right conclusion, but have always had fast reflexes.
>> You see it clearly, the tension in the Naussican's body; he's going to fire. You see the shifting of Taggart's body, about to throw himself away from the shot.
>>> Not even going to shout a warning.
>>> The Naussican is slow, he wasn't expecting you. He's slow to fire; his plasma bolt will pass through where Taggart was, impacting Ensign Shalla in the back.
>> Taggart is leaping your way. You step forward, and body-check him back into the line of fire. He grunts in surprise, then the plasma bolt hits him square in the chest. He takes it all, and looks very surprised as he realizes you killed him.
>>> At the end, does he know you did it intentionally, or think it was a dumb, clumsy accident?
>> It doesn't matter. Fire phaser on Setting 12. Naussican vaporizes.
>>> Ensigns turn around, fill the Naussican's arriving friends full of compression bolts. They see the Commander on the ground.
>> He jumped in the way, Shalla. Saw it coming and took the shot because your back was turned.
>> Commander Taggart died a man and a hero.

> Memory fades. You close your eyes, tears unnoticable in the water-shower in your cabin.
>> Perks of being a Commander and knowing all the people who can make all the modifications.
> You suck it up. It had to be done. He was a coward. He was going to save himself and let a girl with her back turned die in his place.
>> He gets to be remembered as a hero. Shalla got to live. Worth it, even if she wanted nothing to do with you when told the truth.

> That's enough. Lock it again.
>> Real memory fades. Falsified memory wherein Commander Taggart heroically leaps into the way of the plasma blast returns.
> Tears cease. You can finish showering and go to bed and sleep well tonight.
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>>50012564
I think he settled on a 3rd chromosome (XYZ). for whatever reason, 2 chromosomes wouldn't cut it.
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>>50012647
That probably means that ordering doesn't matter when determining sex. (Or that he didn't think of the idea.)

Problem with 3 chromosomes is now you have way more than 4 combinations to pick from, so why do Andorians have only 4 sexes? Obviously there can be reasons they only have 4, because humans only have 2(ish) viable sexes while 3 combinations are possible (assuming order doesn't matter), but... hmm.
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>>50012867
The only references to Andorians having four biological sexes comes from the books, so, you know, take it for what it's worth. It's hideously overcomplicated, and I question how a species could evolve that way.

That said, if you like it, go nuts?
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>>50013191
Also mentioned in the episode with Data's daughter when she is looking for a species to imitate.

Although it was mentioned by Troi so it might still have been wrong.
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>>50013811
I think that was only mentioning how Andorians have four-way marriages. That doesn't necessarily require four genders.
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>>50013829
Thank you it's been a while since I saw that episode.
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Can somebody explain to me why the Ferengi have both replicators and currency?
I mean we are talking about effective post scarcity, how could you maintain ruthless cutthroat capitalism when all the goods you make can be made just as good by the replicator down the hall? I could understand there might be copyrights/licensing meaning you wouldn't have access to the designs for everything but over time "free" or open source designs would surely cover most things.
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>>50014391
Because there's so much shit you can't replicate, and not just for technobabble reasons like latinum and ketracel white. There's stuff with what they call aura, historical value or a prestigious connection to a specific person. There's the energy required to run the machines themselves and the skill to maintain and program them. There's the best living space and the time and the service of the best teachers and other professionals. There's usage of the things too big for an individual to replicate, like ships and holosuites. And most of all, there's all the stuff that the moral busybodies of the various galactic powers want to ban or restrict the replication of, everything from weapons and ships to real alcohol.
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The Constellation makes my dicc thicc
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>>50014704
Some of those seem legitimate sure, but they don't exactly justify a lot of what is shown, such as food costing things, though perhaps that goes back into the copyright issue.

All the stuff about "time and skill" comes off as bullshit though, since with their needs provided for by the replicators people would have great amounts of time to learn, teach and operate devices. It really seems as presented in the show as though the amount of energy needed to power replicators is absolutely minuscule compared to the labor time of constructing an equivalent object, especially with the very efficient fuel sources and generators they have so energy would barely be a concern.

Objects of artistic and historical value are hardly the core of an economy.
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>>50014836
It seems like people in the Federation are expected to work for nothing. Maybe there are laws against accepting payment in latinum for most or all kinds of labor. Which means there's probably a black market for the scarcest kinds of labor.
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>>50014830
>The Constellation makes my dick thick

FTFY.
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>>50014836
Personally, in a society so bureaucratic and obsessed with cutthroat capitalism, I wouldn't be surprised if replicators were tightly regulated to ensure there's still a "manual" means of production to keep people employed.
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>>50014836
Ferengi have a different culture than the Federation. Humans will occasionally need something that isn't provided by free state replicators, but on Ferenginar there's no such thing as a free state replicator. You've got to pay for the energy consumed by a replicator as it makes the thing you want, you've got to pay for the dilithium that keeps the whole power grid from exploding, and if you don't have your own replicator you've got to buy or rent one. The idea that everyone should give away everything they have with no compensation is not a concept that has reached them. Their trade with the Federation is only a small part of their economy.
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>>50014972
Its the only way i can imagine their economy functions. Capitalism can't function for post-scarce goods, its why those types of restrictions (like copyright) exist, to try and "preserve" currency based trade.
>>50014995
It is difficult to imagine that, because all it would take is a handful of Ferengi with access to a replicator, knowledge of how it works/how to construct more and a power source to undermine the lie their market is based on. You can't compete if your competition is offering stuff for free. It would take a very powerful totalitarian regime to maintain a "free" market.
>>50014902
I would suspect people in the federation are not expected to work at all, considering the huge number of people in the federation, even if we assume only one in ten or one in thirty are willing to work "to enrich themselves and help others" that's still far more labor power than they actually need. Remember that jobs and work fill a lot of people's time in today's world, many people would still "work" in a sense to fill that time, either because they enjoy doing it, find it brings them social status or because it makes them feel useful and increases their self image.
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>>50014972
>Federation is evil and full of hypocrites
Here we fucking go again.
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Anyway thanks for info on the Ferengi! Just seemed weird to me, i just started on deep space nine, so I'm going to go back to watching that and let you get back to arguing about which ship to masturbate to and who's roleplaying characters are better.
>>50015094
I thought he was talking about the ferengi alliance? Maybe morality isn't so simple and both of them are assholes.
Can a state body, made up of both good and evil people ever be considered good or evil?

All of these shallow moral questions probably don't mean much, since in all the star trek roleplaying games i've seen there's no "alignment" section.
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>>50015094
>DAE my socialist post-scare-citee utopia isn't perfect?
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>>50015094
That was in relation to the Ferengi you idiot. Or is the Federation charging you slips of latinum to use public chairs now?
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>>50015143
I finally have reason to post it.
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>>50014391
Because cutthroat capitalism is an easy way to drive conflict for writers that get neither the time nor the pay check to worry about the substantial effects on culture and society that all the fancy toys shown could have. And so the replicator ends up being just a fancy TV dinner vending machine most of the time.
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>>50015070
You must remember that a replicator doesn't make things out of nothing. It makes them out of energy - quite a lot of energy for each milligram of replicated material. The Federation maintains a quadrant-wide power grid supplying free energy to its citizens because its principles demand it. It is probably their most impressive and difficult achievement. In a culture where the government does not supply enormous amounts of power to you for free, you can't replicate cheap or free consumer goods for the public because the finished product costs less than the energy needed to make it.
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>>50015472
So does that mean most things in the Federation are made by magic boxes that just spit out what you want most of the time? Or is it more likely unless you're 'well off' in the UFP. You have factories and farms make most of your stuff because even in a post scarcity society you still pick the less costly option because you're not an idiot.
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>>50015598
There's also cultural notions of self-improvement, prestige, and the dignity of labor to wrestle with. It's shown that there are still farms and restaurants on Earth both because some people want to do that kind of work and some people consider it a culturally richer experience than getting meals from a replicator.
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>>50015140
I finally have reason to post it.
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>>50015634
I still think barter is how the Feds really work most of the time. It really is Soviet Russia they just like to really downplay that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6QVPbD9rD8
I think this is only time I ROFL to any episode of Trek I can remember. The part where Nog goes all metaphysical is 'Glorious'.
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>>50015472
I understand it doesn't make it out of nothing, but everything I've seen in these programs suggests it IS the less costly option by far, due to the advanced energy harvesting/generation technologies they possess.
>>50016116
>Praexology.webm
That is pretty funny though, its a great example of "efficiency".
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>>50015634
Since notion of money in the UFP is kind of passé, the whole barter/favor basic of that society makes sense. I mean for most people you still have to give them a reason or they have to find for themselves a reason to exist. Or they can turn all NEET and become self destructive. It's been shown though out Trek that people still covet things. Riker was notches on his bed post, Picard was artifacts and old literature. Data was a known knowledge and experience whore.
This just goes to show you even in 'Utopia', we still bring our vices along.
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>>50016116
The thing is, while the Federation government, Starfleet and probably humanity don't have money, I'd wager most of the rest of the Federation does, if only because not everywhere is going to be as well off as the heart of the Federation. Plus, the Feds deal with people that do use money, so the Federation Reserve probably has a big stock of latinum, even if their "monetary" system is based off of Replicator work.
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>>50012390
>>50012429
I was going to respond to you guys in agreement, but we seem to have unstuck from that bullshit and going slowly back to normal.

So have an Andorian for the trouble.
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>>50016320
The efficiency of the technology is only half the story of why private consumer goods tend to be replicated - there's also the state effectively fixing the price of energy at zero, or at least rationing energy out to each citizen in amounts greater than the average citizen would need. Making energy isn't effortless, and the Federation doesn't have a way of transferring energy from planet to planet other than ships loaded up with antimatter and dilithium. If I recall, they can't replicate dilithium either because it's in this weird state between matter and antimatter.
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>>50017065
>Making energy isn't effortless,
The price of energy can, however, easily get to be very, VERY low.

>and the Federation doesn't have a way of transferring energy from planet to planet other than ships loaded up with antimatter and dilithium
Manifestly untrue. First off, matter/antimatter annihilation is not the sole or even primary means of electrical power generation in the UFP.

> Solar power plants in close orbit of a star can be amazingly fruitful.
>> Microwave power transmission is a thing.
>>> By the 2370s, they probably have an even more efficient and better way of transferring power at interplanetary distances. Possibly even interstellar: subspace radio power transmission?
> Most energy will be provided by deuterium + deuterium or deuterium + hydrogen fusion.
>> Giant tanks full of compressed deuterium/hydrogen can also be a thing.
>> You can get the stuff amazingly easily on any habitable planet, or pull it in incredible quantities out of the atmosphere of many gas giants.
> Hydroelectric power is still a thing, both in dams and tidal harnesses.

Dilithium and antimatter are only needed as starship fuel and warhead Boom (in the case of antimatter.) Other energy costs are easily soaked by power generation infrastructure, which is where the Federation must, by necessity, quietly but spectacularly be awesome.
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Even before replicators became a thing, the fabricator units available around TOS are pretty insanely good, taking bulk materials and just reforming them like a 3d printer that can use/output a fuckton more than just plastics.
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>>50018364
Man the Seeker novels have such great covers.
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>>50018434
Right? They capture the wonder very well.
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>>50011466
>herm
>dickgirl
Why are people's hermaphrodites always dickgirls? Why can't they be boys with literal boipussys? Why even have penetrative sex: plenty of species even on earth don't have penis, but still have sex. And why do their sexual organs have to be in the groin? Back of the knee, or stabbing each other in the face with their tusk-penises like earth snails. The lack of creativity in /d/erp is disappointing.
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>>50018519
Because I think women are hot, penetration is sexy, cumshots and creampies are powerfully erotic, but men are a huge fucking turnoff?

You do you, buddy, and that's fine, but please don't tell me I'm enjoying my /d/eviancy in a badwrongfun way.
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>>50018519
>>50018663
Both of you are doing your deviancies wrong.

Because you aren't in a pile of Andorians.
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>>50018663
>not liking men
what a faggot
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>>50018851
How do you know that said futa girls aren't HIP deep in a pile of Andorian babes?

>>50018958
I'm quite sure that that word doesn't mean what you think it means.
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>>50018851
Sorry for not being up on alien reproduction knowledge but is Andorian mating literally involve orgy/gangbang sex? If so I'd sign up to be a cultural studies major in the UFP and record all this for history.
Of course with a health kickback on the black market for trading such important cultural info :D
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>>50019466
I don't think the details have actually been explained. If I had to guess...

> Type A Dude puts the sperm in Type A Chick.
> Type A Chick combines sperm and egg to create fertilized.
> Type B Dude takes the fertilized egg out of Type A Chick.
> Type B Dude puts the fertilized egg into Type B Chick, who carries it.
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>>50019762
The details were explained. They were as dumb as yours.

Male A puts sperm in Female A
Male B puts sperm in Female A
Female A puts fertilized eggs in Female B
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>>50020389
That is dumb. On the other hand, any procreational system which involves obligatory LesYay isn't all bad, now, is it?
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Does anyone know of a gigh quality TNG/TOS skirted one piece I could wear for a cosplay?

>>50018958
Reminded me that there are gay trekkies and that TNG had dudes wearing skirts
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>>50020491
You mean like this dude?
>>50004517


I ain't gonna tell him he can't wear a skirt. I just ain't gonna wear a skirt. Not unless it's pic related. Probably not even then, because I'm almost certainly not manly enough to wear a full tartan kilt like that.
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>>50018364
>>50018455

What is that thing, anyway? It looks like someone decided to make a TOS-era Intrepid-class.
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>Watching the episode where Troi becomes a Romulan Tal Shiar agent
>She almost immediately fits into the role and starts threatening murder and torture if she doesn't get her way
>Even with the guy that knows she's a fake
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>>50021871
Counselor... We need to have a talk.


But yeaaaah... Troi was kind of a shit.
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is star trek online any good

i'm patching it right now and i was wondering if anyone here played it
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>>50023144
Yeah it's grand. The ground combat sucks dick but the space combat is quite fun. You can play the game to level 50 before minmaxing and "leet strats" become important.
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>>50023165
>minmaxing
>ever important
Only if you want leet deeps. If you're only slightly competent you can pull your weight in Advanced. And you don't need to worry about that until max level. Besides, the real endgame is space barbie.
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>>50023509
> Dat Pic
>> Where to save it?
>> Trek folder? Doesn't really fit.
>> /TG/ Image Macros? Maybe.
>> Latest porn folder? Yeah.

I don't know WTF is going on there, but I've seen enough heresy to know where it's going to go. And that's awful.

(And by "awful" I mean "awesome."

>>50023509
>space barbie.
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>>50023578
It's one of the animals found on New Romulus called a Nanov (River Mother).

Completely harmless, lives off of pollution, water parasites and soaks up radiation.

You find a giant one sitting under the water falls.
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>>50023578
Is there any profession that Barbie hasn't excelled in?
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>>50023627
Space Marin - Damnit!

>>50023620
Uh, wowsers. That's a hell of a critter.
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>>50018851
>>50016827
What the heck benefit do Andorians get from the little antennae on their heads anyway? Do they smell with them or pick up radio broadcasts?
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>>50009725
>Troi in command
>literally doesn't know anything
>O'Brien and Ro have to explain that in the case of a hull breach, if power is unavailable to the forcefields, then physical bulkheads close to prevent the whole ship from depressurising
>They also have to explain why it is a bad thing if power fails to the force field containing the antimatter fuel
tfw you remember that by the end of the series, this bitch will outrank Data.
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>>50024184
>tfw you remember that by the end of the series, this bitch will outrank Data.
she also crashed the Enterprise-D, so badly, in fact, that it was deemed unsalvageable...
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>>50023627
Fuck it, I'm going all-in.

> INTRODUCING
Lieutenant Barbara "Barbie" Barbara, Fabrication & Holography Engineer.

Hailing from Los Angeles, California, Barbara "Barbie" married her high school sweetheart, Ken Barbara, at the age of sixteen. Growing up in a city of glitz and glamour, with history, sun, surf and sand, speaking with a flawless Valley Girl accent, Barbie is not what you'd expect to be a Starfleet Officer.

Don't let her accent and generally sweet, fun-loving valley girl demeanor fool you, though, behind the flawless cosmetics and luxurious, regulations-straining golden-wheat hair lies the brilliant mind of a genius so adept at learning, retaining, recalling, and implementing knowledge that some people suspect she's an Augment. She isn't, she's just a genetic rarity that can compete with Augments on an intellectual level without any of the crippling genius-savant handicaps typically associated with such intellect.

Lieutenant Barbie reports directly to Chief Engineer Lt. Commander Reginald Barclay, wearing dual hats as the head of both engineering fabrication and holographic technologies. Her areas of duty bring her into contact with crew from all walks of life; practically anyone who needs something they can't just get from their cabin replicators, anyone at all who has an idea to do with the holodeck that will be "just, SO awesome," and in general, anyone who needs some engineering done and wants to run it past someone with high clout who isn't the Chief Engineer.

> Cont.
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>>50024442
Barbie seems sweet and defenseless; she's the only engineer in Main Engineering who doesn't habitually wear a phaser, a toolbelt full of weaponized tools, or both. Nothing could be farther from the truth; Lt. Barbara is so astonishingly dangerous a foe that she doesn't need to wear weaponry, as every big thug who's thought taking the small female hostage was a good idea has learned to their sorrow. For one thing, Barbie is an accomplished judoka, certified by the North American Judo Federation as a 6th-dan instructor, with mixed additional training in Aikido, Mok'bara, and Starfleet Hand-to-Hand training, making her a fantastically dangerous opponent to underestimate in a close fight, with only the ship's battle-tested and proven martial artists, such as Lt. Commander Reed, capable of regularly defeating her in competition.

For another, she is a fabrications engineer and a holographer, and carries a belt full of transporter beacons, field replicators, and field holoprojectors. She can fill a corridor or compartment with phaser turrets, portable shield generators, holographic decoys capable of firing back, and emergency bulkheads/barricades/fighting positions faster than most people can say "Holodeck holiday." This comes in great hand on the USS Ark Royal, which Barbie was assigned to after becoming politicized in Starfleet Academy following the diplomatic extension course Introduction to Foreign Political Philsophies. She voraciously devoured, and still devours, literature and philosophy, and has come to the conclusion that the Prime Directive is well-meaning but misguided, pointing to great failures when the Prime Directive was taken to such extreme that Starfleet vessels stood by and bore silent witness to the extinction of entire sapient species as reason to call it into question, circulating a petition amongst all of Starfleet to demand that the Directive be given a thorough review at the highest levels of the Federation.

> Cont.
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>>50024483
This, of course, is not a crime; Starfleet Officers are entitled to their political views, even when those views disagree with those of the Federation mainstream. The right of freedom of expression is also one that cannot be suppressed. Of course, the act of Grand Spamming was viewed dimly, for which she was chastised, and the political view she expressed got her slated for a low-preference assignment. Thus it was that Barbie was made an engineer on Starbase 1. This proved to be a mistake, as it put her and her views right at the hub of Starfleet's ship traffic, and it put her in contact with a great many visiting engineers.

Very quickly, Starfleet was looking for an excuse to get rid of her, for fear the petitions she was circulating would start to take off. Serendipity struck for them, in that she struck up conversation with Lt. Commander Reginald Barclay, who was on the eve of being assigned to USS Ark Royal. Most wouldn't think the flawlessly-spoken Valley Girl would have anything to do with the stuttering, nervous, awkward older man, but Barbie and Barclay quickly bonded over inventive, bleeding-edge holographics tech, and Barclay put in a request to have her assigned to Ark Royal. The commander of Starbase 1 couldn't sign fast enough, which is how Barbie has found herself aboard Ark Royal, at the heart of boundary-pushing innovation, amongst the highest-density concentration of atypical Starfleet officers to be found, and loving every minute of it. The only downside is that her husband only lasted a month before the weekly hostile boarding got to him, and he cracked, demanding to leave the ship. They currently live separated, but comm one another every night.
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>>50014964
That's a Loknar, dude. And yeah, that ship is one sexy beast.
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Does the USS Great Disco-Spacewhale von Innatubes have a MACO complement perchance?

Seeing as we have the Kiryuin sisters, a Twi'lek, a Lamia and fucking BARBIE then it stands to reason that these bastards should get an instant in.
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>>50025009
They hardly need one, the Ark Royal probably has as many weapons lockers as most ships have replicators, and half the crew are not only ready but /eager/ to grab a phaser and start robusting.

But yeah, let's see... Hrm... What would those guys be, I wonder?

It's been so long since I watched SG-1, but let's see... Teal'q would probably be a Joined Trill, General Hammond would be... I dunno, a retired Admiral who lives on the Ark Royal as a civilian specialist? Or maybe the Commander Air Group, the guy in overall charge of Ark Royal's small craft compliment? She isn't part of a fleet, so she doesn't need a Flag Bridge or Flag Admiral... Though she definitely has a Flag Bridge and the facillities for one. Maybe they assigned a fuckup admiral to the ship, in charge of a fleet of one and some fighters, and he has basically sweet fuck-all to do except giving Captain Bailey overall objectives to accomplish?
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>>50020804
Archer-class scout from the Vanguard books. Its tiny.
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>>50024170
Superior balance and hearing.
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>>50024598
I was just correcting his spelling. And wanted to post that particular image.

>>50026357
Shame it's not got a Starfleet museum page. It'd fit right in. Could maybe even be the start of a whole section on small craft.
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>>50026773
That's... Small. Like, would fit in the main hangar of a Galaxy-class starship small.

I like it. I'd guesstimate it's about the size and rough shape of a Defender-class Light Corvette from Star Wars: TOR.

Star Trek does have a decided lack of ships in that size class of things 2-3x larger than a Danube-class runabout.
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>>50024511
>>50024483
>>50024442
This is the most Mary Sue levels of bullshittery I have ever read.

It's perfect.
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>>50026864
Well she's basically a super-runabout. TOS design requirements though so more cramped than a Danube class and requiring way more crew.

>I'd estimate it's about the size and rough shape of a Defender-class Light Corvette from Star Wars: TOR.
No need to guess, the dimensions are:
Length: 45 meters
Width: 22.5 meters
Height: 9 meters
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>>50027582
It would be my true love of TOS if the SFM's Lancaster class hadn't already stolen that.
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>>50024184
>tfw you remember that by the end of the series, this bitch will outrank Data.
Data has no ambition. He was a Lieutenant Commander from TNG till his death. Hell, Data ruined the promotion ladder for the Ent-D and E all by himself. He's too competent to shove out, but lacks the ambition to force Riker to get the fuck out.

>>50024349
>she also crashed the Enterprise-D, so badly, in fact, that it was deemed unsalvageable...
That's not really fair to Troi though. Geordi, Picard and Riker have to take the blame for letting the former back into Engineering and not checking his VISR for any sort of hacks. Also, the writers said that there had never been successful landing of a saucer of a Galaxy before.
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>>50028332
Well it was successful enough to save the vast majority of the crew, so there's that at least.
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>>50028455
Mrs. Robinson, you are trying to seduce me. Aren't you?!
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>>50015181
>paid in Penn Jilette posters

Oh fuck, my sides.
Good job, anon.
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>>50016808
How does Starfleet pay for all that shit anyway like the raw materials? I'm sure just a thank you isn't enough to make so poor sod go into a mine and dig out special snowflake crystals that make your ships go. So what would be approvable payment for doing sure a shit job for you, anons?
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>>50029771
I don't know how the New Economy works as the shows only ever say 'we do things to better ourselves and our species', which means nothing. Nobody works double overtime without some kind of compensation. I imagine there are perks involved. But I do know a lot of people, Starfleet officers included, deal in Latinum. I could easily see the Federation stockpiling Latinum reserves for use with alien cultures that still use currency based economics.
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>>50031215
TOS aesthetics hhhhhhh
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>>50026773
>>50027582
Wow, this looks a lot like a TOS version of the ship I'm currently running with in STO
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>>50032375
Akira?
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Nova?
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/stg/, post your STO bridge crew!
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>>50033084
Nah, Tempest class
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>>50033336
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Bump with I want to role play a crew on a Prometheus class ship, any games out there doing this?
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>>50036211
Prometheus?

What would you want with that overcomplicated bucket of bolts?
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>>50036211
Is it just me or does the detached midsection look better than the combined ship?
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>>50037223
Were the Kazon supposed to be like shit Klingons?
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How viable is psychically collected evidence in the Federation?
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>>50024442
>>50024483
>>50024511
I should hate this. I should hate this with the power of a thousand suns.

I do not hate this.

Why can't I hate this?

I fucking love this.

Would /tg/ object terribly if I was at some point in the near future make an Ark Royal 1d4chan page?
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>>50037378
I think Mad Max type warlords in SPAAAAAAAAAAAACE!.

The Delta Quadrant around the caretakers array was by the time Voyager turned up suffering the aftermath of one big fucking genocidal war of attrition and mutually assured destruction.
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>>50037394
They probably prefer physical evidence but we do see Betazeds and Vulcans take part in trials so maybe they're there for psychic purposes
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>>50037427
>Would /tg/ object terribly if I was at some point in the near future make an Ark Royal 1d4chan page?

I've been thinking of doing it myself, but if you want to, go right ahead, Anon.
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>>50037656
I'm at work right now. When I get home I definitely will do so unless somebody has done so first.
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>>50037674
Awesome.

Until then, have something nice.

> INTRODUCING
USS Betelgeuse, NCC-1822

One of the last construction batches of Constitution-class vessels, Betelgeuse is of the Tikopai subclass, a Heavy Cruiser engineered for a war that never happened. Advancements in automation reduced crew requirements compared to earlier Constitutions, leaving the vessel with more modular space; originally intended for the installation of additional, special weapon systems, such as impulse missile batteries and launchers, Gatling phaser arrays, anti-missile defense projectile cannons, and the like.

In practice, Betelgeuse and most of her sisters were never fully-armed, as relaxing tensions with the Klingon and Romulan Empires and the rise of the Miranda class as Starfleet's go-to no-frills heavy hitter left these later Constitutions languishing on light duties. Larger and more complicated to operate than the ubiquitous Miranda class, but smaller and less capable than the new Excelsior-class, throughout the run-up to the Khitomer era, these vessels were kept on active reserve, with a light crew and assigned the lightest of duties that never took them far from the shipyards where they could be fully-armed in a hurry if need be.

As the 23rd century pulled to a close, the bell seemed ready to toll for this venerable class. Most of Starfleet was ready to decommission the lot and scrap them, parting them out for spares for the Mirandas. Salvation for the class from total destruction came in the form of USS Betelgeuse, NCC-1822.

> Cont.
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>>50038075
Betelgeuse was seen as something of a dumping ground for Starfleet misfits a century prior to the construction of USS Ark Royal. Unlike most of her sisters, she was a fully-manned Constitution-class Heavy Cruiser, with her empty bays fully-loaded with an eclectic mishmash of scientific sensors and the weapons she was originally intended to carry, commanded by a Rigelian captain who had cut her teeth aboard USS Enterprise, NCC-1701 and later -A. A cowgirl captain in the finest traditions of James Tiberius Kirk, always convinced that the Next Big War would happen sooner or later, she managed a crew of misfits and cutups with aplomb, giving them the leeway to propose modifications to the ship's capabilities, no matter how radical, throwback, or absurd it seemed.

On the eve of her planned decommissioning, with resentment at an all-time high, one of Betelgeuse's more oddball sensors detected a distress signal. This signal, which appeared to be tunneling through subspace in a very odd way, wasn't registered by any Starfleet facility, and seemed to be coming from very far away. The admiral attached to the spacedock where Betelgeuse was awaiting her final orders believed that this was either a sensor malfunction, or the act of a crew which loved their misfit ship attempting to stave off the inevitable. Either way, he was feeling charitable, and despite there being many nearer Starfleet vessels, including faster Excelsior-class vessels, Betelgeuse was granted a stay of execution when she was ordered out of spacedock to investigate. Two of her sisters, USS Lux NCC-1823 and USS Polaris, NCC-1839 undocked to join her on their own initiative, and together the three Constitution-class Heavy Cruisers jumped to high warp, stretching their wings farther and faster than they'd been stretched before.

> Cont.
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>>50036517
Could be anon you have a soft spot for ships like >>50033084 pic related. I like it myself and if you as a group rpg a Prometheus its possible that everyone gets a chance to be captain in a way in the setting when you split the ship.
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>>50038117
Betelgeuse and her sister vessels were following the distress signal directly, and fortuitously the path seemed to take it directly along a subspace eddy. The three Constitutions made good time, but it took them over a three days at high warp to get within the reach of their farthest sensors. Betelgeuse's sensors detected chroniton particle weirdness, which the Captain knew meant trouble, even as her chief science officer raised the possibility they might be responding to a distress call which had been displaced in time.

It made no difference. They had gotten close enough to resolve the signal as being that of a Federation colony under attack; as Starfleet officers, they had a duty to respond, the Temporal bastards could eat her. Three Constitution-class Heavy Cruisers dropped out of high warp to find a Federation colony world under occupation by an alien warship of unknown configuration, and proceeded inwards, shields up and weapons hot. The Captain ordered the hostile vessel to stand down and surrender. Weapons fire ensued, and it quickly became apparent that the three Constitutions had the enemy ship badly outgunned, and it had them very badly outclassed. Lux was crippled in the initial exchange of weapons fire; phasers flashed, photon torpedoes cut the skies, and Betelgeuse deployed her full array of weapons engineered for an all-out war with the Klingon Empire, launching wave after wave of impulse torpedoes to box the vessel in, compelling it to rededicate its beam weapons to shooting down the incoming missiles as Betelgeuse and Polaris closed in. The alien warship finally turned and attacked the oncoming cruisers, which were attempting to bring their heavy phaser banks to bear at close range to cut through the alien ship's advanced shields, allowing a wave of torpedoes to strike in exchange for laying into Polaris with her beam weapons.

> Cont.
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>>50038252
At close range, the exchange of fire destroyed the mighty Constitution-class Heavy Cruiser outright in one salvo, but the multiple impulse-torpedoes, carrying far more antimatter than your average photon torpedo, brutalized the alien vessel's powerful shields, with Betelgeuse herself riding in close behind them, unleashing repeated strikes at point-blank range from the Gatling Phaser banks intended to shoot down incoming torpedoes of the type they had just unleashed to cripple the alien warship's systems, and primary bank shots at point-blank to smash her hull.

The alien captain attempted to go to warp, resulting in the ship's destruction when her warp core breached. Entering orbit to relieve the colony, Betelgeuse's away teams quickly dealt with the alien landing parties, but what they found was both a massacre and a mystery; an entire colony of Federation citizens dead, and a planet full of advanced technologies. The away team's search for survivors had little, the hostile aliens having been spectacularly thorough, and callously brutal in deploying chemical weapons. Betelgeuse rescued the double handful of survivors they could, salvaged the colony's computer banks, samples of technology, repaired Lux, and they returned to their starbase, where they were promptly quarantined by the Bureau of Temporal Affairs.

Betelgeuse, it was discovered, had indeed responded to a distress signal that was tunneling through time, the after-action analysis would discover. Three Constitution-class heavy cruisers, old and outdated in their own time, had engaged a warship which was sixty years ahead of them in time. It should have been an entirely one-sided slaughter, but the sheer tenacity of Starfleet officers, and the deployment of weapon systems deemed too aggressive for general use had carried the day.

> Cont.
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>>50038317
Betelgeuse and Lux were quarantined for far longer than their scheduled decommissioning date, and by the time the BTA was convinced that the oddballs on Betelgeuse hadn't managed to squirrel away any more temporally-inappropriate technology or data or survivors, the fervor to decommission ships was past.

Betelgeuse was given new orders: a return to Starfleet's primary mission of peaceful exploration. As her aging captain says, "She may not be the youngest girl at the ball, but she'll still turn a head or two." Betelgeuse remained active well into the 2370s, keeping the torch of what some would say was Starfleet's grandest era alive, although maintaining her exotic weapon systems became more and more difficult and they were eventually stripped out entirely for more standard modernized weapon systems fitted to ships of her age.

She's pictured >>50038075 bearing witness in 2330 to the long night, mournfully in a polar orbit over a planet whose natives destroyed themselves in a nuclear exchange over a hundred years prior, scanning in the desperate, perhaps futile hope, of locating survivors who managed to hide themselves, perhaps in underground bunkers. Betelgeuse would eventually meet her valiant end in fire in the closing hours of the Dominion War, pushing herself beyond all bounds her designers had expected, but although old and outmoded, the venerable ship with a veteran, battle-tested captain and crew, hardened systems lavished with love and attention by her crew, took the fight to the Dominion in the line of battle, holding fast when ships nearly a century newer than her would have retreated. She accounted for more than three times her tonnage in Dominion warships in the Battle of Cardassia alone, and over a long career in active service, nearly always managed to defy the odds and save the day when called to action.
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>>50038420
When the hull configuration, with classic lines around a fully-modernized interior was revived in the early 2400s as the New Standard Cruiser, it should come as little surprise that the first ship launched was USS Betelgeuse, NCC-1822-A.
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>>50037378
Basically they were supposed to be VOY's Klingons, yes.
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>>49999123
Certainly seems like it. The first story was mildly amusing, if still kind of cringe-worthy what with just outright using anime characters in a ST game, but now this guy just won't fucking stop.
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>>49999123

Gul Dukat did nothing wrong.
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>>50039116
That's not even Dukat, racist.
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>>50039116
Learn your spoonhea - Cardassians, dude.

>>50038760
Fucking seriously, you object to Trek fiction?
Even one that has precisely zero waifus and lots of Conniewankery?

Fine, YOU write something, then! Asstard.
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>>50039116
He got outsmarted by a ferengi.
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>>50039822
Wow. Did someone go out of their way to make the fuck-ugliest escort they could design?

Because I think they succeeded. They succeeded about as hard as possible without literally welding parts from a Bird of Prey to it.
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>>50039951
You think that's bad?
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>>50040031
At least that has symmetry.
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>>50039951
>>50040031
>>50040056
If I was creating a Kabali type space zombie faction it would also be using Frankenstein ships. They would be radiation resistant, capable of entering states of almost completely suspended biological animation, clinically immortal and in enough time could regenerate so long as they aren't killed outright.

This would be one of their ships. They would always be ugly as sin.

They would be the Discworld Igors of Star Trek. They are the very best doctors in the galaxy and will have you back on your feet in no time. Their price? You join them after death if they ask it.
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>>50040031
That one's actually kind of cute, in an excessively derpy way.

>>50039822
Is just a fuckling dugly that ain't gonna bloom into no schwann.
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So, what the hell is the Ark Royal's mission, anyway?
>On call for shit too weird for the rest of the fleet
>Go delta quadrant and fuck up shit/get fucked up
>Go explore this patch of deep space and stay go
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>>50040136
Wanna see the actual Kobali space ship in STO?

The good news is it is technically invincible thanks to its unique console and abilities it gets if it has been given Kobali ship equipment as well as due to its ship trait.

http://sto.gamepedia.com/Kobali_Samsar_Cruiser
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>>50040190
She's an xboxhuge Explorer++. Not quite a mobile starbase, but really heavy - larger than a Galaxy or Sovereign, and much, MUCH denser. Has a rather large fighter compliment of 36 Peregrine-class Fighters (three squadrons) and one squadron each of militarized Delta Flyers and Danube-class Runabouts, as well as the Captain's Yacht which can fight like a Danube++ with a cloaking device if needed.

So "Go explore this patch of deep space and stay go" is her typical assignment, but she represents so much sheer POWER that they don't want to send her TOO far from the Federation, because when Bad Shit happens and the USS Enterprise isn't nearby to pull some shit out of their ass, Ark Royal is the hammer you need to make everything look like a nail.

If Enterprise are the Heroes the Federation want, and generic Starfleet are the Heroes they deserve, then Ark Royal are the heroes they neither want nor deserve, but occasionally have great need of; the angry discowhale flying in like the unexpected arrival of twenty pickup trucks full of rednecks with shotguns at a WBC funeral protest... Who promptly erect both the Stars & Bars and rainbow flag and start blasting "Song of the South" at the WBC at full volume from truck-mounted improvised speakers.

It's like... They make you deeply uncomfortable, but they're standing between you and things that make you actually feel threatened.
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>>50039486
>getting this butthurt
Not that guy, but yes, I do object to fanfic in general. 4chan is definitely not the place for it, especially if you don't want to be flamed for it (or anything else, for that matter). Now, if you had couched it as "this is what happened in my group," especially as greentext, it would go over a lot better.
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>>50040434
Also holding box for Starfleet's crazy.
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100k hours in paint
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> The watershed for a new generation.

In 2346, trouble was brewing between the Federation and the Klingon Empire. A dispute arose regarding a remote planet, outside the boundaries traditionally established as the Klingon Empire and the United Federation of Planets. The planet was first visited, nearly simultaneously, by a Klingon survey vessel and an Oberth-class science vessel.

A lush, rich, warm jungle world, an M-class planet in orbit of a superjovian gas giant, large enough to have its own moon 2/3rds the size of Earth's, this planet had a lot to recommend itself, with a teeming biosphere full of ecological treasures, dilithium deposits in vast abundance, and a rather unique metallic compound with incredible superconducting properties, would give any empire which exploited it huge advantages in terms of starship resiliency, as this material, damn-near impossible to recreate industrially and impossible to replicate, could carry the power levels which on modern ships normally require EPS conduits in a traditional wired conduit, being vastly safer and more reliable.

It was also home to a primitive race of sapient humanoids, vast and powerful beings that grew tall in low gravity, and grew mighty owing to fierce competition from an extremely hostile biosphere. The Klingon Empire saw these as both a worthy warrior's challenge to overcome, and a vassal race to be prized for their obvious utility as industrial laborers and their potential as warriors. The Federation saw a precious, unique culture which had to be preserved from outside influence. Both vessels, unwilling to fire upon one another, left survey markers declaring their respective empire's claim, and raced home at top warp to summon a larger vessel.
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>>50042316
Each empire required control of the system, for entirely different reasons. This was a matter which could lead to the outbreak of war. With the destruction of the Federation's flagship four years prior, Starfleet elected to send not the traditional interim Flagship, USS Excelsior NCC-2000, but a larger, more powerful vessel, the Ambassador-class USS Mikoyan, NCC-15460. Anything less, even a storied ship such as Excelsior, was deemed to be too little ship to accurately represent the Federation's intentions not to allow a primitive culture to be stamped upon; anything more was deemed too provocative.

The Klingon Empire sent their own envoy vessel, the K't'inga-class IKV Narenda. Named for the massacred colony on Narenda-III, IKV Narenda was considerably smaller than the Ambassador-class vessel she met, but she carried one of the Empire's rarities; a genuine diplomat, and Hero of the Empire, Dahar Master Koloth.

Over this remote planetoid, the two vessels orbited side-by-side, for days on end, as their respective ambassadors argued the matter. Mikoyan carried no less a luminary; the legendary Joined Trill diplomat, Curzon; not only a fierce, hardbitten speaker, but a personal friend of Koloth, joined together over a bond of shared loss, and shared diplomatic triumphs. The matter seemed to be impassable; the Empire could not tolerate any other space empire exploiting the strategic position and materials of this planet, the Federation was entirely unwilling to see the planet's natives corrupted by contact with aliens, let alone exploited as vassals.

Any other ambassadors might have thrown up their hands and dared the other side to do something about it. Indeed, Koloth and Curzon, although old friends, very nearly came to blows over it. Fortunately, after a long night of ignoring the current problem, drinking, singing songs of the glories of past days, a compromise was reached.
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>>50042316
Meanwhile the Cardassian Union goes "lol holocaust so nice we did it twice" and swoops in for delicious clay, giving no fucks about preserving the species (and yet somehow having only a million die in a fifty year period).
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>>50042459
The Klingon Empire would not tolerate another empire exploiting the semi-unique materials found on this world; but they could tolerate it if no empire exploited them. The Federation could tolerate the presence of military outposts in the system, as long as they were not stationed on or above the planet which held the primitive sapient civilization.

The proposal: a joint facility would be established in geostationary orbit on the far side of the moon, and sensor satellites deployed. The Klingon Empire would be responsible for the facility and its attending fleet, which would have, among other duties, securing the borders of the Empire and ensuring that no other races, particularly a loud upstart named the Cardassian Union which was rapidly militarizing, were permitted to bespoil the world. The Federation would station scientists on the station, who would study the world and its natives, and make all efforts possible to work out procedures for securing some supply of the precious metalloid without any Prime Directive violations. Of any secured supplies, 78% would go to the Klingon Empire, and the remaining 22% to the United Federation of Planets, but not for use in starships. The United Federation of Planets was also permitted to land observation parties and establish observation outposts, a privilege the Klingon Empire would not enjoy.

It was an awkward compromise, and although it was perfectly agreed to by the principle negotiators involved, there were doubts that the Empire at large would accept it. Fortunately, survivors from the Narenda III massacre spoke up loudly about the valor and integrity of the Federation's people, citing the USS Enterprise, NCC-1701-C, which had been destroyed four years earlier fighting like a den-mother protecting her brood to protect a people that were not her own; the Federation could be trusted to uphold their end of the bargain. Thus another small stitch in the fabric joining two great and disparate empires was sewn.
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>>50042557
>Of any secured supplies, 78% would go to the Klingon Empire, and the remaining 22% to the United Federation of Planets, but not for use in starships.
Oh man, the Klingons shafted us HARD in that treaty. They don't care about the observation outposts, they basically got us to trade away 28% of the material for free. And I guarantee you there's a secret research project going on in both empires to see what happens when it's in a starship. The Klingon's will explode violently, killing their scientists, and the Federation's will be exposed by Captain Picard who will wag his finger at them in a very French way, saying "Naughty naughty!"
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>>50040136
>TFW someone tries to stick 'Space Hulk' into TREK.
WHAT NEXT?! Do we recreate Khan era augments, borg them up and put them in heavily Armored EVA suits? So they can board these things with a least a slim hope of getting off alive? BTW what's the best rpg system to make this abomination anyway?
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>>50042609
28% of a vastly reduced quantity than what would be pulled up if the Klingon Empire was allowed to go whole-hog strip-mining the place for it, since this is only what the Federation can pull out WITHOUT disturbing the natives, or revealing their presence.

So basically, it's enough for the Klingons to have one or two extra-resilient ships per decade. And the Federation can put a halt to the entirety of production.
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>>50040136
>>50042973
So we got Frankenstein people on a Frankenstein ship.

I like the idea.

Where are they from? Who the fuck knows. They just move around the galaxy in no real hurry and seem to be extremely thinly but evenly spread from one galactic edge to the other.

You never see more than one ship at once except on the very rare occasions when two of the freaky bastards accidentally run into each other out in the inky black. They seem to exchange notes using laser blinks and them go their separate ways again having never made physical contact. Their movements betray no pattern either as individuals or the species as a whole.

Given that there ships seldom go above warp 4, 4.5 tops, and that they aren't spreading out in any organized way it can be easily deduced that they have been everywhere for a very long time.

They offer their holy fuck this shit is magic medical services at the price of being allowed to take your body at the moment of your death. As they can grow spare parts in the medical facilities on their ship, enter suspended animation between anything of interest and seem to be clinically immortal so long as they can get spare parts coupled with no recorded population growth for the last thousand years it is a mystery what the bodies are used for. They aren't Kabali/Elechi style using them to propagate, they don't seem to be Vadien style harvesting them and they aren't eating them. Whatever reason they are valued and what appears to be the entire crew of one of their traveling wrecks will carry it to their ship with solemnity and reverence.

Possibly they just see someone they have patched back together as "one of their own" and believe he needs a proper funeral.

Typically a scrap ship will hold no more than 20 individuals, no 2 individuals seeming to be made from the same components.

Possibly the bodies are raised into a new life to offset natural attrition. Not all accidents leave enough for even their hardy kind to regenerate from.
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>>50040142
>actually kind of cute

Say no more.

Incoming cuteness!
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>>50044167
That, um...

Yeah, actually, that is kinda cute; in a derpy way, yes, but cute nontheless.
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What the hell, I feel like writing moar.

> INTRODUCING
USS Ambassador, NX-10521

A rather rare case in the annals of Starfleet's history, USS Ambassador is rather strikingly different from the majority of her class, making the vessel a semi-unique starship. Ambassador herself is larger than most vessels of the proper Ambassador class, with an engineering hull, neck, and impulse engine arrangement that greatly resembles that of the Excelsior class which preceded her, and sweeping, winglike nacelle pylons which are unlike those of any Starfleet Explorer-class vessel until the advent of the Sovereign class many years later.

The Ambassador class prototype is not entirely unique; several other hulls were laid down with her type before the final revisions to the class made sweeping changes to the engineering hull and neck, which would ultimately make the vessel resemble the earlier Constitution and later Galaxy classes more closely. This design choice was, quite simply, made in the name of practicality, in that they simplified the design. Although not less capable in combat than the larger, Excelsior-derived Ambassador Prototype hulls, the newer Ambassadors are said to be lacking in grace and elegance, and carry fewer crew as well as having less space for non-critical systems, such as additional laboratories.

It was a decision which proved to be popular with Starfleet's procurement officials, but deeply unpopular with fleet officers, who were largely taken with the sweeping good looks of the Ambassador Prototype, which looked very much like an updated Excelsior. In an attempt to rehabilitate the slightly-uglier-looking final Ambassador design, the first vessel to be launched with the new design was christened USS Enterprise, NCC-1701-C, under the command of Captain Rachel Garret. To some degree this was successful, but the remaining Ambassador Prototype hulls are almost universally considered superior lookers and generally, slightly nicer, than standard Ambassadors.
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Why were the Romulans and Klingons so concerned about the Alpha Quadrant during the Dominion War? Weren't they both heavily established in the Beta Quadrant, Alpha being more like colonies to them? But to hear them speak in DS9 you'd think they were talking about the home front.
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>>50044647
After the Alpha Quadrant would be the Beta Quadrant
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>>50044662
I get that, it's just the way they talked about the safety of the Alpha Quadrant. It was like their home planets were there.
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>>50044688
Their home planets were literally a short trip from the front lines, by Warp.

The fact that large portions of their Empires were deeper inside the Beta Quadrant means nothing if their home planets, and the fleets defending them, are practically on the front lines as of the Federation being defeated.

The Klingons knew from the start that they'd be next were the Federation to fall, and the Romulans might have pretended otherwise, but they came to accept the same thing, in time.

They may be largely in the Beta Quadrant, but they're on the very rim, just like the Federation is largely on the rim of the Alpha Quadrant, the same rim on either side. Trying to make 'but it's a different quadrant!' out of those sorts of distances is just playing silly buggers.
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>>50043897
I was thinking more along the lines that the UFP cone across these things. They send normal boarding parties onto them and get instantly massacred. So that have to make augment cyborgs with heavy armor EVA just to be able to go on those things without dying. Because that thing must be infested with all sorts of horrors. Sort of like a Trek version of Dead Space/Space Hulk. It's so you can have your OP in trek and still not always win.
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>>50044378
Valiant is the cutest Starfleet ship ever made!
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>>50042973
What if they blanda up? The sovereign and similar -era ships already look like cathedrals.
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>>50047354
If you want to do it right that thing in the pic needs a boarding ramp in front and a breaching charge delivery system.
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>>50042973
If you must have people, holograms.
Or if pre-independently roaming holograms; something like that remote operated probe that Geordie was dicking around in [image related].
That thing was ambling around in a ship caught in the upper atmosphere of a gas giant, complete with hull breaches. They can build them tough with shields, arm them up with phasers and just methodically move through.
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>>50048114
Guis, what you doin', guis? Please don't 40K up Star Trek, guis.

We have too much bloom for that, guis.
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You're not dying on me this soon.
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>>50049995
I prefer the intern map for the Prometheus class myself.
>3 Computer cores, 2 complete warp cores, and 2 deflector arrays.
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I'll just leave this here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI8ezrK6Qjs
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>>50045487
We could do that but this is Star Trek and Trek does not do that sort of horror well.

I think this
>>50043897
is more of a fun idea. A race of semi immortal ugly fuckers. They are everywhere and they seem to have no culture, language or homeworld of their own.

Even the Borg leave them alone. Their biology is non-standard and although they can be assimilated it's not usually worth the effort. Also their immune systems will start to break down nanotech after a few months and so they require constant top ups.

Their technology is salvaged scrap from other peoples. Most of their ship parts are at least 50 years out of date from wherever they salvaged it from and been tampered with in odd ways to get it to be compatible with the other equally out of date salvage parts. They have no technology worth assimilation.

Their insane medical knowledge would be of great value to the Collective. Pity for them that the Scrap People have a strange love of the written word and great memories and so most of the information is either memorized or stored by paper and ink. Attempts to decipher their written languages have all failed. Each ship has it's own language.

Possibly each ship language has a common origin but if so it's pretty obscure. Each ship could have been drifting across the stars for many, many thousands of years in which time they seldom meet another of their kind and in that time each ship has diverged in written language, although spoken language seems to be remarkably unchanged although that's more to do with the Universal Translator keeping it fixed.

They do not fight well. Their ships are slow, fragile and armed only enough to take care of space debris. Their main defence is having nothing worth taking and treating all injured people without fear or favour. Many peoples have superstitions about them.
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>>50040136
>They would be the Discworld Igors of Star Trek

Woulnd't that be the Vidians (assuming they can overcome the stigma of being the Body Parts Snatchers?)
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>>50051722
Depends on what became of their society after they were cured.
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>>50051801
I mean, they're still in the position of being hated by EVERYONE they've ever met. That will kill them all just as surely as the Phage would have. And who's to say that's unfair? After all they've done, would it really be fair to let them off with an insincere apology and a slap on the wrist?
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>>49995939
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>>50052015
Well they've managed to survive with the hate of all their neighbours + flesh eating disease for centuries.

No reason why they wouldn't continue to survive with the handicap removed.

Especially considering that most of their neighbours are considerably less technologically advanced than they are.
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>it's a "grand nagus is in trouble and to help him quark gets a sex change operation performed on himself to help the nagus" episode

what the fuck man

what the fuck man
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>>50052349
Thank goodness that this post was well into auto-sage territory. No way that that should ever be allowed to bump a thread.



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