How much effort does you and your team put into RP for food when traveling? When's the last time your character brought a pouch of spice or salt, or a bottle of tabasco sauce? Does any of that even warrant a mention, or is it just "packed field rations for X days"? Also does anyone have those images of all sorts of camp foods and recipes, looked pretty fantasy-inspired.
>>51018882if you're way into the fluffy aspects of cooking at camp I have a Tumblr board for you.http://bushcraftturk.tumblr.com/archiveI'll dump some posted camp-meals from the last couple of months...
>>51019001>>51019008>>51019012>>51019016>>51019025>>51019031>>51019039>>51019046>>51019053These are nice and all but you more with the kind of forage and rations a traveling adventurer in a medieval fantasy setting would be hauling instead of store bought kept in a cooler food?
>>51018882Eh.My last character was a Monk/Ranger who was dropped into the wilds as a trial by fire and got lost.And thus i always skinn animals, i always take the best meat, i always extract the fat, i always take potential alchemical ingridients, i always burry the carcass to not attract predators etc.First magic item i got was a bag of holding to store all that shit.
>>51019076>sausage>cooler-food>wild mushrooms>chestnuts >not forageI bet you think Cheese(real cheese, not cheese-products) goes bad if you take it out of the fridge for more than 4 hours.sure, he goes overboard with the eggs, but they are also something you can basically carry around for a few days(provided it's not hot outside)
>>51019076eggs and sausages are actually fairly good for travel rations, providing you can keep them safe and/or dry. Smoked or dried sausages last weeks or months, and fresh eggs can last six weeks or so if they're unwashed.Mushrooms, like those chanterelles pictured are also pretty commonly forageable, at least in the right season.In my Rogue Trader game I probably spend too much time composing elaborate Roman style feasts for my players. I know only really one gives a shit.
>>51019129>>51019169I didn't say they were ALL cooler food, just if there was MORE with the forage stuff.Also I doubt anyone who expects to have to drop their pack and/or grapple with monsters at a moment's notice on a daily basis is going to be carrying around eggs.And those kind of sausages are in no way the kind you don't have to refrigerate.
>>51019076>but you more withI also just noticed I retarded out there."but do you have more with"
The campaign I'm currently game mastering has one of the players actually play a cook. The others are a merchant, a warrior and a hunter. She gets really excited when it's time to make food every day of adventuring and it often features in her interaction with other NPCs. It works well, the other players indulge her and I try to give her a chance to use it for the story in some way every time we play. The next adventure is actually all about feeding a series of isolated mining outposts.
>>51019172>Also I doubt anyone who expects to have to drop their pack and/or grapple with monsters at a moment's notice on a daily basis is going to be carrying around eggs.not if you keep them packed in straw in the party cook-pot...just, don't THROW the pack.>And those kind of sausages are in no way the kind you don't have to refrigerate.guy lives and camps in places that snow hard enough that I bet he doesn't need a cooler.
>>51019076Try using this as your provisioner NPC's stock list.
>>51019187You're a good DM. I know I'd have a hard time giving a damn in that scenario as either a player or the DM, but I just wanted you to know that your sensitivity and kindness has been noted and appreciated. >inb4 gay
>>51019204>just, don't THROW the pack.Again, if we're talking about adventurers in a fantasy world wandering the wilderness, getting into a tussle with giant monsters likely to pick you up and throw you a few dozen feet is a very real concern.Though you can probably dodge a lot of those kind of packing issues with bags of holding, handy haversacks, or a fucking wagon...>guy lives and camps in places that snow hard enough that I bet he doesn't need a cooler.Fair enough, but that doesn't change anything about what kind of sausages those are.
I like themed real life meals that tie into the game world but going overboard on in game food descriptions is not our style. We are aiming for a more hack n slash style game less amateur thespian.
>>51019220>Deli SWEEPINS: Gently usedThis will never fail to launch my sides into orbit.
>>51019241>Fair enough, but that doesn't change anything about what kind of sausages those are.indeed, BUT then again, the party could just as easily carry the correct kind of sausage so the images as an idea-point are still pretty valid>>51019254for me, it's always "goat-dust"
>>51019172Cured/smoked/salted meats (sausages included), campfire bread (carry the flour, mix with water and bake after making camp), biscuits, hard cheeses, nuts, mushrooms, roots/tubers (potatoes, turnips, swedes etc.), any pickled vegetable, and bulbs (onions, garlic, etc.) all lend themselves to long spells of un-refrigerated transport.Cheese, bread, biscuit and cured meat would probably account for 95% of all the military rations ever provided to marching soldiers in all of human history, the last 5% being mostly dried and frozen mush from the last 20 years.Fresh meat, leafy greens, fruits and eggs may not be quite so hardy, but they're all quite easily obtainable by hunting, trapping and foraging and can still be kept around for a surprisingly long time before actually going off. Modern "use by dates" are designed to avoid legal liability in freak outlier cases, remember, so they tend to err heavily on the side of caution.
>>51019204>guy lives and camps in places that snow hard enough that I bet he doesn't need a cooler.Even at the arctic circle, the temperatures can get pretty high during the summer, and there's no way these pictures were taken that far north, judging by the vegetation.
>>51019223Thank you. When I plan a session I like to try to include at least one interaction, problem, social conflict or combat situation where each of them will shine in their own way, with their chosen skill set and how they have portrayed their character. For the same reason I take small mental notes in what they prioritize while playing and what seems to pique their interest. I didn't use to do this at all but I really feel a difference in appreciation from the players since I went from "standard planning" to player focused planning. I have one campaign where I don't do this at all though, because I really don't think my other group would like it. They're more of getting a world with a series of events and having to adapt and overcome, not necessarily having me cater specifically to their characters, which can indeed feel a bit "unrealistic". I mean, how often can I plausibly weave in cooking in a monster hunting campaign, in a good and meaningful way to the story? The first group, however, readily suspends disbelief because they want to make the cook happy.
>>51019312That's not what I was asking.
>>51019387Those are all foods that don't require a cooler, can be easily transported, and would be readily available to a medieval traveller in any vaguely habitable temperate environment.Isn't that what you were looking for?
This thread pleases me
>>51019416No, I was looking for pictures. Not what I already know.
>>51018882We do the camping part pretty extensively. I don't describe the food nearly as much as I should, but the aspect of setting up camp and all that entails is handled pretty well. The players got in to it when I first introduced the concept of detailing what they did at night while traveling and now they get excited over it.
>>51019012I doubt 6 beans on a spoon is going to feed a hungry adventurer...
>>51019751Nigga you blind?
>>51019751dude, those are eggs
>>51020259>Can't tell the difference between a few oyster mushrooms from "20 eggs"
>>51018882We had whole sessions consisting entirely of food descriptions and bathing in filthy rivers. .
>>51020310Sounds like the perfect session.
>>51019537>Implying people don't play RPGs for different reasons
>>51020412While I can't speak for everyone I've been gaming since 1989. I've met all sorts in my travels but have yet to meet a food role player. I mean one that loves elaborate food and cooking roleplaying interaction is thier primary motivation.Most folks want to kill monsters, get treasure, solve mysteries, growth thier character. I love to cook and amsomethjng of a foodie but talking about foods totally lacks unless I can actually make and/or taste them.
>>51020495Read some Redwall if you want to learn to appreciate elaborate and detailed descriptions of food.
>tfw you're going to be DMing a comfy DnD campaign in a couple of months about travel, camping, and exploring old ruins
>>51020495I have found about 1/2 the opposite. That is, I haven't found anyone who is focused on that. But what I have found is that nearly everyone enjoys a touch of it. The feast, the description of that one meal, that sort of thing.An entire campaign focused on nothing but food and cooking would probably find few takers or few that would stay with it. But I think that most DM's would find that adding a camp fire nights description or a tavern feast now and then would add greatly to their campaign.
My Half Orc fighter. is a master Chef. It's some pretty integral roleplay, actually. Pretty fun.
>>51020561>adding a camp fire nights description or a tavern feast now and then would add greatly to their campaignFor sure.>A hyper-autistic OCD breakdown of survival cookingNo.
>>51019449Then use google image search you useless fuck.
>>51020705>A hyper-autistic OCD breakdown of survival cookingI don't think anyone is suggesting that.
>>51020772Not seeing it. One guy talked about describing feasts in his game, another about a player who was a cook and talked to NPCs about cooking and was humored by the other players, I mention adding a bit here and there based on my DM experience. Not seeing where you are getting this autism thing from.>>51020764>Aside being of course a daily batch of autistic sperging about shit that never happens in games, because nobody is actually that autistic among real, flesh and bone players.There are a number of people here who have described using food descriptions in games. Why do you seem so threatened by this concept?
>>51020731No need to get all pissy because your attempt to look smarter than you are failed. Maybe next time try following a conversation to figure out its context before butting in and looking like an asshole.
>>51020859wow, somebodies a big fat grumpy-guts
>>51020859>I'm playing for past 16 yearsUnless you started playing prior to being born I seriously doubt that is the case - judging by your speech. Regardless, RPGs take up a great bit of diversity in play. Many people do many different things. It isn't exactly crazy that people might be interested in expanding their play experiences or the experiences of their players. Putting some detail in to a celebration feast isn't exactly outside the realm of possible for an RPG. In general, I would say that threads like this greatly add to the level of quality of the board.
>>51018882Well when we do travel without magic and that happens, my Kind of Ranger/Druid Elf is the only one in the party who has skilled Cooking, so he hunts the food and cooks it. And he is really good at it - given that it is one of his twoo hobbys. Painting being the other...
>>51020859>things I'm not personally interested in make the board bad!If you want to improve the quality of /tg/, leave and never come back.
>>51020953>but if you are OPnah, I was just making light of anons clear anger that people might do(or want to do) things in ways he has yet to experience.>>51020966never really a point to speculating about age out here...>>51020966>I would say that threads like this greatly add to the level of quality of the board.agreed, and even if anon thinks not. at least they aren't "will you sign my petition" or "elf slave what do" or "katanas are underpowered" or "Stat-me"
>>51021008>"more shitposting unrelated with the hobby"Funny, that's all your posts in this thread have amounted to.
>>51020859>I'm playing for the last 16 yearsoh here we go->pretty much all genres aside shitty space operas1>bothering with this pointless crap2>To make the point even more standing out >A pointless, tired bullshitare you Russian or retarded or just underage? I really can't tell.But you're right, there has been a serious drop in quality on this board: a million generals and nothing lighthearted or even humorous inbetween, with a million spergs prancing about with thrice the usual enthusiasm, plying their mating call about the board "NO FUN ALLOWED! NO FUN ALLOWED!"; Derailing comfy threads with their autistic screeching, bitching about everyone else talking about things they don't have an interest in, and generally being that one downsie kid at summer camp that got stuck in your cabin every year and scared all the other cabins off with his shit-slinging antics.If you want to play board police, /pol/ is currently full of shitposting newfags and we'd be glad to have you. But please, do /tg/ a favor and stop posting this blatant, retarded bait.
>>51020968We see a lot of that. Because we are in an outdoor based campaign there is a ton of travel, so we see a lot of overnight stays in the spooky forest. Everyone does something.
>>51021066>kid at summermight be he's on his winter break?
>>51021114>Not himUh huh>>51021128
>>51021128so instead of hiding the thread, you come here to bitch(and bump)you must secretly enjoy this stuff, you clearly want it to stay on the board for longer...
>>51021128It happened with me.Your argument is now invalid. You may leave.
>>51021152There are, maybe two, people who are having fits because this thread somehow appears to challenge their masculinity. There would appear to be a decent number of people who have included these elements in their games and are interested in doing more/better.>>51021148I doubt it. There wasn't childish use of profanity in his post.But to his point, the cry baby thing while amusing (and accurate) really was unnecessary. Should probably cut it out.
>>51021167>family photosnah, pictures of other people's camping food. OP asked for pics and thoughts over out-door cooking, I found this Tumblr page a week ago, and thought it went well so I posted a few things off it.>But if you have a mind of a crying babyman...I namefag, babies irritate me. different guy posting the babies
>>51021196>Should probably cut it out.It's probably better to just let him rant and rave to himself and keep bumping (what started out as) a good thread anyway.
>>51020508Can I join!?
not quite trail food, but, something you might have along camping
>>51021244Probably would be best. OP asked some good questions.One of which, are these the photo's he was talking about?Myself, I think if you just do the 'packed field rations for X days' and nothing else you are missing an opportunity to add depth to your play.
>>51021329Tortillas/pita/flatbread you can easily take with/make on the trail I think, with a setup like that, and pickled veggies, shrooms and game are good fillings for it.
>>51021361>>51021373I was talking about the giant wok more than the fajitas and tortillas.I really want one of those giant woks...I even have a fire pit the right size in my yard already...
I think I get it, shithead anon is throwing a tantrum because a lot of these images have meat and eggs in them, and it's triggering him because he's a vegan.>>51021343Typically I'll use "rations for X days" for the most part but will go into details about food to create atmosphere when it matters. It's especially great for getting the players to wind down after a hectic session, creating a nice, calm atmosphere before throwing even more shit at them.
>>51021361I think he was talking about the rest of the pic, the setup, that sort of thing. But, yeah, mixing up some flatbread and cooking it in some method is pretty campy for the period.
>>51021384Doubles as a shield!
>>51021397Gotta love flatbread baked over an open fire.
>>51021396>Typically I'll use "rations for X days" for the most part but will go into details about food to create atmosphere when it matters. It's especially great for getting the players to wind down after a hectic session, creating a nice, calm atmosphere before throwing even more shit at them.Personally I think that is pretty close to the idea. I agree, as I said above, that going in to super detail at every moment and basing a campaign is probably a bit much. But it is excellent detail to add in now and then. They take a rest to recover? What was that ration like? They are traveling through the wilderness, what was that first nights forage like?I really think that most DMs could add a lot to their games just by covering that first night/rest in some detail. The rest, with maybe a mention of detail here and there, can likely be glossed over. But hitting that first night on the trail each session helps fit the setting in to place as something other than roll some dice and collect xp. At least that is how I see it.
>>51021452little taco shop I worked the drive-up window at. had a 1000 year old Hispanic woman come in at midnight and make nothing but tortillas up until we opened at 4:30 AM.I swear the best food is always made by elderly and late-middle-aged ethnic women.wherever they're from, so long as it isn't from where you're standing they always seem to make the most awesomest food.>>51021477>At least that is how I see it.and thats probably what most of us will take from the thread, it's a good thread. it's covering in detail, a topic that will add a little something to any game.
>>51021477Food is a great detail for setting a scene, especially when it's used to show contrast with or a transition from what players have had to deal with so far.If they've been running through the wilds for several sessions, go into detail about that nice fresh tavern meal.If they've been staying at cheap taverns and/or spending the minimum on lifestyle, go nuts with the sights, smells, and grandeur of the feast at the noble's manor.If the PCs just finished an adventure barely alive, help them set up a calming atmosphere for their first long rest and ask the cook what they're making.Food is just as good a storytelling tool as describing the slime on a dungeon wall.
>>51020859You are 100% correct. But without heavy handed moderation tg/ will continue on the path of mediocrity and barely tg/ related threads. A lot of wish/fetish fullfillment in tg not people actually playing games.
>>51021572>>51021586>>51021594These are awesome. I doubt if I would use them any time soon, but they are great for inspiration. Something is going to eat all those giant monsters they players slay after all.
>>51021675Something I haven't done, but may do in the future, is what another anon described as doing. That is, talking about how different regions have different foods. Ways of eating, that sort of thing. You travel from elf woods to dwarf caves to human tavern to northern city, and the food is always the same. Another detail that can be included (along with music and dress) to help paint the picture.
>>51021718Absolutely. Even just a brief description of the different things different people and races eat can really flesh out a setting.
>>51021750A lot of this is going to depend on the gear your characters are carrying. I got my heaviest in to the hobby when 2e came out, and 'what you are carrying' was a pretty big part of the game back then. Encumbrance mattered as well as resources. What gear they carry, and the weight they accept, will impact how they live on the trail. Heh, in one game we had a player who went with the cheapest stuff he could find - basically just the same food every day. At one point I described the nights activities, etc. I made a point of describing the other characters food as varied and decent, while describing his food with a sympathetic shaking of my head as 'being the exact same thing you have had for the last week, but you manage to gag it down'. He wasn't happy about that and put a little bit more focus in to bring that part of his character alive. He was young though, so that is fine.
>>51021847You'd be surprised how little gear you need to cook a wide variety of things. Just a good skillet is all you need for a world of options.
>>51020859>>51021677The purpose of any GM is to create a fun wotld to explore for his players, and to provide versimilitude for that setting. Fantasy food threads are very much a part of /tg/ and are likely older than you or I, if you forgive the plea to tradition - meatbread is years old and source of a long standing cold relationship with /ck/. 1d4chan has an entire page dedicated to /tg/ related recipes, as traditional games are also social events and the feeding of your guests or fellow players is often involved. Finally there is the several years old meme involving the loss of versimilitude from including Potatoes in a pre colonial medieval or reneissance setting, as potatoes are a new world cropFood goes hand in hand with armed conflict and day to day life, both things that heavily relate to /tg/. Shadowrun has whole segments and even source books dedicated to foodstuffs and other assorted goods.Anyone who claims food is not important to /tg/ is wearing d&d blinders. Even the great grandaddy of all /tg/ content, the works of Tolkien, made food a notable element in his stories - certainly not dominant, but definitely there. A song of ice and fire, besides being an old man's murder porn, is full of food and recipes. And Red Wall, a much beloved children fantasy series, is practically built on the idea of eating - characters are often divided by species and whether or not they eat meat, and the meat eating good guys often have interesting dichotomy with the obligate vegetarians.In short, go fuck yourselves, this is /tg/, will always be /tg/, and you are not newfags.
I once toyed with the idea of "comfort bonuses" for a game, small temporary boost from being well rested or well fed. Like being able to go longer before feeling fatigued or a +1 bonus to saves against fatigue effects, shit like that. But I scrapped the idea mostly because it felt like too much book keeping and too easy to game.>>51021932Don't feed (HA!) the troll.
>>51021878So all you ever do if the players are at a feast is say 'it is a feast, roll for initiative against random monster X'? Should consider doing a bit more.I will agree that nearly nobody thinks they care. But that is because it is one of those details that isn't presented. It isn't, in addition, a detail that will make the adventure. But it is a detail that will add to the play experience.For example, on the first group adventure for my most recent campaign the party were traveling from safe village Z to adventure location B. I could have handled it as 'OK, you arrive'. And that likely would have done the job. But I wanted a bit more.So instead I played up the fact that the party is a collection of Ranger/Druid/Elf types and talked about their setting up camp. Who did what (I asked), had a few rolls based on skills and actions (find a campsite, foraging for food, cooking etc), described the results. The players were very pleased with it and it went over more than I thought it would. It is sort of a demanded thing now. Heh, I need more foraging results. Sure, they could have gone directly to the spider forest and fought the demon thing. But at the cost of about ten minutes of actual role playing they added a good bit of detail to how they see their characters.If all you do is 'rations for a week' you are honestly missing out. Sure, most people won't say anything or realize they are missing out because you can get by without it. But you can say the same about describing monsters as anything more than AC and HP. Sure, most players will accept that and it isn't strictly needed. But you are missing out if you don't put more in to it.
>>51022041>>51022050>>51022082Just let him cry and scream, he'll eventually get tired and go away.
>>51021977>I just got hit with facts so I have nothing left to sayGood, doors that way newfag, lurk more>>51022007In a system like LOTW a comfort bonus could easily be set up as a Chi Condition, I reckon, based on what i've heard about the system.>>51022051>>Food goes hand in hand with armed conflict and day to day life, both things that heavily relate to /tg/.>1. Said whoNapoleon. Your bait is stale desu senpai, please kindly fuck off.
>>51022109>If you can't see a difference between scene in a book and playing the gameIt is so hard though, just look at the stupid above. Just look at it. Such delicious bait. He is doing a masterful job.He probably has a point though if he thinks that tg is strictly a MTG or 40k only board. I guess I could understand the confusion.
>>51019187I played the camp cook before. Like you said, its a really good way to interact with players and NPCs during downtime. Although there was that one player grumpton who was all 'I'd rather forage than eat camp food!' and while everyone else ate stew, meats, and actual hot food he was stuck chomping on roots and grass. MY character ended up collecting spices and cookbooks as a hobby and when the game ended my GM told me that he wanted make quest where I would be the inventor of the Hero's Feast spell.
>>51021932Now, to get back on topic:AlmazanKitchen is basically just slav food porn, but almost all of their recipes are done innawoods, with basic equipment and techniques. Watching the videos you can see how someone might create a reasonably complex dish with nothing more than jarred and bagged supplies, a cutting board, an iron pan, and a pile of burning sticks and rocks. Take note of the surroundings, not the food.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTpgFCGok6IJas. Townsend and Son is focused around 18th century cooking, which is a little late era for most fantasy games. But still, we can see valuable techniques and idea's for how food stuffs might be preserved, prepared, and eaten on the trail. I recommend his videos on preservation, ash cakes, etc. Pardon the fact he always shills his fucking catalog.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdmPIpQZPRgA basic instructional video for cooking for LARPShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUtbnhp7Apw
>>51019220wtf is goat dust
Some minor flavor narrative text is fine. I've read Most of the Redwall books, the food doesn't do anything for me because food is something I want to experience as a taste not as a story. In traditional dungeon crawling fantasy I usually play we are heartless cutthroats out for gold and glory not epicureans. As for the topic itself it is definitely on the periphery.
>>51022243goat rendered down to a powder, duh.There's actually an ingredient, called Suet, which is more or less powdered animal fat. Was very important for preservation and cooking going back to the 17th century
>>51022226Some good stuff. Really though, the later stuff isn't necessarily outside of the range of your typical game. Considering magic and character class abilities (not to mention race abilities) your party might have it better than modern campers.
>>51022222This nigga gets it.
>>51022226I'm trying to be kind. This is not tg related.
>>51021977Try reading something other than murder-hobo optimization threads!
>>51022286There is nothing wrong with your feeling that way. Nobody is suggesting that you should have to play a certain way, especially if you have given it a nibble and it wasn't for you. Have a nice day!
>>51021131I want that in my mouth
>>51022226>I recommend his videos on preservation, ash cakes, etc.I've used the description of his making ash cakes in games, good stuff.
>>51022291This is true. Conjure Food and Goodberry alone raise interesting questions. How do they taste, how do they keep, what effect do they have on local economy, etc? It's worth noting that in Tolkien, even Frodo eventually got sick of Lembas all the time, despite it being Elven ubermensch food. But that could be related to his progressive corruption, as Gollum could not stand elf craft either.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJyp7qCBG_4Panforte is an old medieval recipe, it's more of a Christmas desert these days. But the name means Strong Bread, and though I sadly cannot vouch for the historicity, I have heard claims from at least one autistic cooking show it was used as a sort of medieval energy bar/trail ration due to it's high calorie/protein content and how it could keep wrapped.
>>51022051This man speaks the truth. This cooking foodie stuff is minuiate that doesn't factor into game play or the plots of the majority of RPGs. I can't think of any adventurers that have retrieving a rare ingredient or other food related quests.
>>51021068>>51021096>>51021148He was being a huge dumbass. You had the moral high ground, but posting pictures of crying babies makes it look like you can't counter his arguement. So grats I guess he wins.
>>51022359https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azCGi_a4b-k Historians and documentarians try to put together a Tudors feast, give you a good idea of what Nobles might have dined on for special occasions, and how it would have been prepared.
>>51022371>>51022374So true his posts all got deleted, eh?
>>51022315I think players that want this hyper focus on highly descriptive on food and cooking are the infinitesimal minority.
>>51022321That's just it. I want to eat this stuff IRL not talk about it. I can't kill dragons or rob corporate labs in real life so I role play. I can make just about any pictures good in this thread with trip to the market and an hour in the kitchen.
Here's a somewhat related question, how much in general do you care about the PC's camping supplies? Does it matter if the PCs don't have proper shelter for the season or weather? Do the PCs' rations go bad eventually if they haven't restocked? Do your PCs get sick if they drink water from a tainted source?>>51022442>>51022475It's already been said that food can be a good mood setting detail from time to time, but don't go into hyper focused detail on every meal every game.
>>51022243goat+Ray of Disintegration= Goat dust
>>51022412I'm glad he's gone, he was a dick.Seriously though, the babies just says "I have no arguement."
>>51022442>>51022442Let's keep the strawman down to a minimum shall we? Nobody is suggesting a campaign focus. But what has been suggested is an added description. The cost of a few minutes at most. Right in line with the sounds of the market, how the NPC is dressed, the smells of the city, that sort of thing.None of it is (usually) key to the success of the adventure like AC or HP. But certainly can add to the adventure just as describing the monster the players face as more than just AC and HP.All things in moderation my friend.Consider, that such details as what players eat have been included in games officially since before most of the people here were born.
>>51022499Speaking as a food fag, too much book keeping is bad. It will really depend on the tone of your game, but as long as players Have the supplies and equipment, I don't fuss too much,
>>51022558And that guy stopped with the baby pic soon after. It was an understandable reaction that was still a mistake, we are over it.
>>51018882I honestly wish I spent more time doing this in the campaign but my players just aren't really interested in the survival aspects. I normally just say 1 day = 1 ration and you don't have to RP out that you eat it, it just naturalyl diminishes but even then we tend to just forget about it.
>>51020859What? The last thing the cafeteria cook wanted to talk about while playing fantasy games was his job? I'm being sarcastic and feel I should tell you since you're clearly retarded. I'll also tell you that literally no one has ever given a shit about 16 years of roleplaying "experience". So if you don't like the thread then fuck off and make a better one.
>>51022499As with all things 'it depends'. As I said above my current campaign (5e) consists of a bunch of outlander background, druid this, ranger that, wood elf everyplace characters. It is largely pointless for me to worry about tracking gear with this crew. Now, if we want to discuss the last time a ran people through a variation of the Isle of Dread. Now that is a bit different. In short, it kind of depends on the campaign. Heavy tracking of resources for (in general) camping is for hex crawls. But I am someone who cares a good bit about player resources and how/when they get used.And I hate Goodberry.
>>51018882If one of the PCs has cooking as a hobby, sure. If it's important to the story, such a survival campaign, sure. Otherwise, meh - it's Robert Jordan-tier fluff.
>>51022591>>51022679Yeah, tone and even type of game matters a lot. For an oldschool hex crawl you'll want at least some of that detail, as it's part of the survival challenge. But if the time the players spend in the woods is little more than traveling between adventure points then tracking rations is probably all you should worry about at the most.
>>51022669Don't ask them to play it out. Just describe it the first time they have it. "The cheese is hard, but filling. The wine though, Bob the market dude might have watered it down more than he claimed" Then 'OK, so who is keeping watch'.Toss that in about every third time they rest, maybe a bit of extra detail the first time.
>>51022051>food has nothing to do with verisimilatudeI won't even bother reading the rest of your post, because you're clearly a fucking moron.
So ARE "iron rations" anyway?
>>51022722>Bob the market dude might have watered it down more than he claimedcareful, implying to a PC they got cheated is a good way to have your campaign go off rails as they tear ass across countryside to find Bob and murderhobo himthen again, that could be perfect, depending on your campaign
>>51022499>Here's a somewhat related question, how much in general do you care about the PC's camping supplies? Does it matter if the PCs don't have proper shelter for the season or weather? Do the PCs' rations go bad eventually if they haven't restocked? Do your PCs get sick if they drink water from a tainted source?Just to expand on this, 'yes' in a hex crawl. All of these things are things that can happen. I treat them as sort of wondering monsters or maybe traps. Keep in mind that you don't have to actually give mechanical effects for something to matter to a player. If you can get the player to care about his character, to see him as an extension of himself or at least more than a paper with stats, narrative can have just a great effect. Poor sleep because of a bad camp location or they weren't ready for the weather? You could give them a level of exhaustion. Or, you could just (at least the first time) describe them as being cranky and miserable - they feel like they may never get dry again. That sort of thing. Players who care about their characters care about stuff like that when it is presented to them correctly.
>>51021384>>51021406A notable tribe of orcs in my world are rumored to be fierce and bloodthirsty warriors who train with their weapons all day every day. Actually they are avowed pacifists who descended from the rumored fierce and bloodthirsty warriors and just use their weapons and armors as tools.
>>51022746it says in the PhB actually.It's like, a fistfull of dried meat, some hardtack, nuts and you know...
>>51022842Hehe, I just don't see the bad there.
>>51021321I'm doing it in real life I'm afraid.
http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/army/medieval_logistics.htmA brief look at medieval logsitics by some US Army Quartermasters, including food and resupply, etc
>>51021921>Implying you can't stir fry in a skillet>Implying you can't deep fry in a skillet>Implying you can't bake in a skillet>Implying you can't boil in a skilletLook at this pleb and laugh.
>>51022679Thanks for the reference sheet
>>51022991We would but his posts are all deleted.
>>51022746Jerky, nuts, hardtack, dried fruit.I believe the term Iron Rations comes from early WWI era. The idea being that a soldier would have rations on him in case he was separated from his logistics support. The rations would need to be stable for a long period of time. The Players handbook just lists a few things that might be in such a ration. But the above is the idea. It would vary from location to location and season to season.But the stables would likely be some sort of dried fruit, a form of jerky of whatever animal is suitable in the area, some form of hard dry bread or biscuit, maybe some nuts of some kind if it were location appropriate. Flower and other staples might be carried to make flatbread as well. Rice would, again if area appropriate, be another good item that might be carried.
>>51023015No problem, I need to improve it. But it got me through my last run on isle of Dread so there you have it.
My Paladin is the party cook in what is essentially fantasy Poland, so its nice to see threads like this so I can better play my character. Would blessing water make it taste better?
If you want an interesting read, browse through the Wikipedia articles about wartime rations. Fascinating stuff like the politics behind one ration type being adopted over another.The abysmal K Ration, for example.Or how a soldier can trade five American MREs for a single French ration.For whatever reason I love thinking up of different fictional food brands, such as different field rations.>QwuikCarb>RediMeal (in sixteen varieties!)>BlandBloc>Manischewitz brand Kosher KrispsBlandBlocs for example aren't actually called that, but they're shelf stable Soviet surplus army rations that are as tasteless as their pastel colored cardboard boxes. They come in four varieties (red, blue, yellow, brown) but no one knows what it means since the sparse labeling is written in near indecipherable Cyrillic moon runes.The only thing going for then is that they are super cheap, they have complete nutrition with amino acids, and they are a food of the people, unlike overprived bourgeoisie capitalist pig food RediMeal.
>>51019751That's not Trumps hand in the picture.
>>51023103>>51022893>>51022746Fun facts! Hard Tack is actually a recent term, 19th century, popularized during the American Civil War. Earlier forms would have been called Ships Bisket, Bisket, or just hard bread.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyjcJUGuFVgThey were usually soaked in drink of some kind to make them eatable.
>>51023269Pemmican is 18th and 19th century and originated in the new worldhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_vLuMobHCI
>>51023144I don't know...maybe? But probably not. I could see it as part of a nightly ceremony though. Maybe a form of communion. Give that some thought.
TIME TO LEARN HOW TO PRESERVE EGGShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUYgguMz1qIEggs kept in a hydrated lime solution can literally keep for over a year in a sealed jug.
>>51023144Extremely unlikely. What a great way to fuck with the evil though, holy water baked goods
>>51020504Seconded. I got into Redwall for the battles (Long Patrol still GOAT imo) but I honestly spent just as long rereading the feasts. It was seriously tantalizing enough to make vegetarianism palatable.Plus,>have grand heroes>performing mighty feats of will and stamina>not finishing these battles to the death with legendary eating contestsI'll bet these sothron heroes can't even hold their breath for three days underwater while racing giant eels on a bet they made with the sea god in the form of a six-story walrus.
>>51023348>VegetarianismAnd now you know why everyone was fucking scared of the Omnivorous BadgersWell, that and being huge berserker samurai warriors
>>51021196>because it threatens their masculinityI realize this is hard to comprehend in the 8th grade but there is nothing immasculating about food prep.Murderhobo That Guy was bitching because there was more than one thread that wasn't about arms and armor or martials v casters
>>51021541>ethnic womenso all women? I don't think there's such a thing as non-ethnic women
>>51021677Fair warning, but while the slippery slope DOES in fact exist, food threads are not part of it.The magical realm has been well meme'd out of /tg/ and will remain so.
>>51023413>Murderhobo That Guy was bitching because there was more than one thread that wasn't about arms and armor or martials v castersNah, I think it was >>51021396>shithead anon is throwing a tantrum because a lot of these images have meat and eggs in them, and it's triggering him because he's a vegan.Anyway, any anons here try making period foodstuffs for their game nights or is that getting too autistic?
>>51022222>not giving your forager a +2 to bite attacks and +1 CHA as a result of his powerful and impressive Jawline
>>51022303We're being kind, newfriendIf the mods disagreed, the thread wouldn't be up, and indeed, all of our food threads (which have been posted for years with no issue) would not have been permitted to remain.If you really think this isn't /tg/ related, summon mods and watch nothing happen.
>>51023657I think that's what happened to the guy with the deleted posts
>>51023674I have to admit the irony was pretty good.
>>51022442>players that focus on highly descriptive arms and armor are the infinitesimal minorityarms and armor threads>players that are into Towergirls are the infinitesimal minorityand yet towergirl threads>>51023284your point being?At what point and where did Mind Flayers originate? Or perhaps Bags of Holding?
>>51023391>oh this is our Monarch>they're very reasonable>I mean, they do eat our enemies occasionally>and when they get upset their eyes glaze over red and they go into a suicidal berserker rage, attacking us as well as the enemy>and apparently they're big enough to sink ships single-handedly>and they don't really rule much outside of making all our weapons >in fact, we pretty much do all the decision making outside of the single 3 months of war that come about once every generation or soreally candies your chestnuts...
>>51023728>At what point and where did Mind Flayers originate?Mind flayers first appeared in the official newsletter of TSR Games, The Strategic Review #1, Spring 1975
>>51023489Tried. Table were a bunch of fa/tg/uys and preferred pizza, mtn dew, and doritos. Which meant our guts were turning over 2 hours in. Which meant the room smelled like ass.
>>51023674>>51023709This is what you get for calling on a God you have no knowledge of
>>51023809Well 1975 is well past the medieval setting so I don't think any of that garbage should be permitted.
>>51023868neither should potatoes
>>51023338NE rogues hate him. find out how this paladin keeps his party on the good side of neutral.
>>51023657>>51023674>>51023728Look, guy threw a fit about this thread not being /tg/ related, his posts got deleted but the thread remains. End of discussion.>>51023284>>51023728>>51023809D&D is LOADED with technological anachronisms. The existence of pemmican should be the least of your worries.>>51023821I'm sorry you had to put up with that.
>>51020561>tfw found an aebleskiver pan deep in the back of one of my cabinets but can't use it because I have an electric stove
>>51021329Minus the tortillas this is how Genghis Khan and his troops cooked while on the move.
>>51023338I know have a plan to create a fantasy version of the Girl Scouts, and have them defeat evil with thin mints.
>>51024261Pretty sure there are spacers that allow u to safety use cast iron of glass top electric ranges. Main issue is protecting the glass from the heavy cast iron.
>>51025066Wait, are you not supposed to use cast iron cookware on electric stoves?
>>51021212I think I've eaten every single one of those things except for the purple broccoli and the endives. What's an endive?
>>51025391You have to be careful. The weight of cast iron can very easily crack glass cook top electrics. Electric coil heating element stoves are fine. Those glass tops are very expensive to replace if u crack then we just ended up buying a new stove.
>>51025391You can yes but you can't drop or slide the cast iron. I learned to cook working on Bomb proof commercial gas ranges in a restaurant. The issue isn't that you can't do it, it's that if you drop the pan even once you will need to buy a new stove.
Wouldn't be too hard to make this as camp food. The last time I posted this some fa/tg/uys tried it out and said that the trick is to thoroughly degrease the bacon first or it won't stick to the batter.
So how screwed is my character in a campaign like this if he never learned to cook, or even start a fire without using a spell for it?He was NEETing it up in his mentor's wizard tower learning how to Baleful Polymorph and Flesh to Stone. The most he or his teacher ever ate was some kind of conjured gruel.
>>51021678Dude, read Dungeon Meshi. You'll thank me later.
In the larp i go to my pc actually is a cannibal who sells both the dead bodies the players kill and his own body as jerky. I got a dehydrator for it and everything.
>>51023968Eh. The smell scared all the normies and girls away, so there's that.And pineapple, while not prominently featured in most dishes, is most definitely permitted on a good pizza.
>>51027050>find rock>turn into flesh>cook nonsentient meatis this a feasible solution?
>>51022287Why the fuck did you include a definition of suet? How is suet is a weird arcane thing to you. Do you know what lard is? Leather? Do people know what milk is where you live?
>>51018882Oh boy, the obligatory /ck/ thread that gets a free cross-boarding pass.On a less overtly hostile note, I have never felt that description more detailed than "hearty stew," "bland gruel," or for a particularly vivid example, "tough jerky that tastes like it was left in the bowels of Hell for a week" added anything to the game that was worth the time spent describing it and not on, say, inter-character RP or plot advancement.
>>51028927I had to look to see what that board even was.And I have gotten great mileage out of working in descriptions on food, music, smells, how people are dressed, accents, all sorts of stuff. I find it strange that there are people who are so opposed to the idea.I mean, I got the wargamer aspect here. Some guys just want to throw dice and be told they slew the dragon - collect gold and then be told they are more powerful. But it is strange that even they would seem to be against the idea that other people might want to avoid even casual mention of more depth in other games.
>>51018882You really need to talk to Gropey_the_clown. Hes a larper and reenactor and does like, week long camping adventures where he cooks and posts his kit and stuff.
>>51018882>>51018882You got to stop and rest some time. Might as well put some description in to it to make the trip a bit more than just one combat encounter after another.>>51029808Would be a nice addition.
>>51029526I add in some detail, dress and accent especially, but only when it serves to help with the story. The reason I'm willing to go into more (but not /fa/ levels) of detail on dress, and similarly on accents, is because it helps distinguish characters and places, and if I can use food to that end, I'll use it. It's just that by the time a meal rolls around, my players have usually already gotten the vibe of a place and it would be redundant to go into detail. Besides, they'll usually give some description of the sort of food they're looking for, add another sentence of description and you've got enough detail for the average author.
Really as long as you don't go into the Autism spectrum of whining for attention, information dumping, going into long monologues and tangents about food, and going full anime, descriptions of camp rations and food add flavor to the game. No one wants to play a game with a chef character that goes 'ATATATATATA HOKUTO NO KITCHEN STYLE! YOU ARE ALREADY FED!"
>>51023445women from not-where-you-are-from, anon.He specified.
>>51030538>Besides, they'll usually give some description of the sort of food they're looking for, add another sentence of description and you've got enough detail for the average author.I'd say you are in a fine place then. Most people aren't there and much of this discussion is likely about moving players to take that much interest in their characters lives.
I'm a professional chef, and when I get drunk I start to get too enthralled with how I go about it. I've described in detail how to cook some weird shit. I also read Dungeon Meshi.
>>51018882in D&D settings, animals that are edible get 1d6 rations per HD. sometimes camp fare can get "fun"
>>51023103You also have ration pills for infiltration specialists. Naruto used this but the soldier pills irl consisted of a mix of starches and non aromatic herbs so your breath doesnt give attention of your men marching. They would make up of a Japanese army's emergency rations.So a rogue in D&D may have something similar, several dumplings infused with dried fish or salted meat, flax seeds, hardy pickled veggies that he can make to a porridge, a soup or just eat it plain.If he wants tp keep himself from dying of thirst or wants a dessert. The dumpling would contain liquor and sweetened herbs like mint and licquorice.
>>51021902>partYou really need a pan and something to start the fire. The party can all chip in for a good pot, since those are heavy and durable. And really, you can cook on some large flat stones, or sticks or logs, provided you have somethingredients like grape leaves between the wood and the food.
>>51022222Quints did not disappoint.
>it's an /ck/-/out/ crossover episodefuckin rad
>>51018882Depends entirely on how much you want to focus on the journey vs the destination really.My experience is during travel it's like one encounter a day and then otherwise it's just fluff including camp and whatnot.One particular gm focused his best on every aspect in the game (did a good job too.) And that included camping. Gave ample opportunities for those inclined to hunt or forage to save on rations.In the other respect rations as they are described sound like dog shit. Tasteless or even bad tasting "food" designed to keep you alive and functional rather than happy.This simple description in my experience causes players to go out of their way with goods at towns and hunting (after all perishable food, seasoninga etc don't cost much)It's mostly a question of "how much work do you and the players want to do?"
>>51019187Found the best gm on the board.
I'm in a game set in 1888 where after a hard day the group had a meeting with the military commander they report to. For the meeting, one of the characters made..>Hardtack biscuits topped with Swiss chocolate, served with very strong coffee poured over sweetened, condensed milk out of a can. Dipping the biscuits in the coffee partly melts the chocolate and softens the biscuits. So fucking cozy and industrial age.
>>51022007I'm considering this myself. It'd be a neat little incentive for more active role playing. Think I'd make it affect skills for sveral hours or something like that.
>>51022222Get of glory.Truly he is the anon of our time
where do you go to find outdoor recipes?
>>51028799I played with a girl who didn't know where milk came from.She was shocked to discover it came from an animal. Iirc, she had a small child. I didn't know what the fuck, either.
>>51021066As a russian, I'm offended
does anyone have any cooking supplements for D&D? or can name any games with mechanics I can steal? I'm looking for something like dungeon meshii and dragon's crown, where scavenged materials from monsters in a dungeon can be used as rations, with good combinations found through experimentation can give buffs (or debuts). Especially interested in the aspect of discovering recipes through experimenting. the question is keeping it simple and elegant enough that it's not overwhelming, while still adding a nice degree of extra complexity.
>>51019169>fresh eggs can last six weeks or so if they're unwashed.I have to disagree with you on this one. You're basing this on a modern chicken egg. Modern chickens being bred selectively in part to increase production/laying and decrease actual rate of fertilization.You're also assuming that the embryo for the fertilized egg in question dies.Neither of those things are particularly likely to hold true in a fantasy setting.In the first case, most of your eggs are going to be fertile which means that when the embryo dies the egg will immediately begin to rot. Unlike a modern egg from a real-world layer hen which doesn't rot and therefore can last safely for at least a month, maybe six weeks as you say but I wouldn't chance it myself.This leads us to the second problem. If the egg in question doesn't start rotting... that means the embryo is still gestating. Assuming you manage to preserve the egg, presumably with a ton of cushioning you're also likely to keep it warm. Keeping it warm will keep it alive. Therefore the egg will last at most three weeks before you have a largely inedible tiny-baby chicken instead.BUT!Even if you were to keep the egg from beginning to rot as a result of carrying a dead embryo... the embryo itself will convert most of the nutritional content of the egg into itself which means that if you wait longer than maybe a week you're going to have basically a sack of slimy chicken skin containing about 10 calories or so.As an alternative you could just hardboil or pickle the fantasy eggs in question thus solving all your problems as, particularly pickled eggs, don't really "go bad."
>>51019129Actually with a small amount of prep work eggs can be stored for months worth no refrigerator, also they are an amazing source of easy nutrition. Not having a dig at your post or anything anon
Reminds me of a neat trick.You can fold a cup of paper and boil water in it.
>>51036255no dig observed, I was talking out of my old survival merit-badge book
>>51037530What? You never saw reaction of a little kid learning from where the meat at the table comes? Or a reaction children tend to have upon learning what for the caged rabbits behind the house are?
>>51037547>>51037530>>51035497I met a kid(16 years old) who'd never had or seen real chicken before. he saw the pack of chicken bits in the kitchen and had to go have a throw-up. then he nearly choked to death on a bone. sometimes, living in America, the land of the chicken McNugget can be kind of sad...
>>51037585>chicken McNugget>Implying they can qualify for chicken meat without changing a definition of both "meat" and "chicken"And how the fuck its even possible to be 16 and never saw chicken. I'm living in a fucking 2 mil city all my life and I was what? 3? 4?
>>51037615dude, it was a 300K suburb and every school there still has 4-H and live-stock shows...I have no fuckin clueand really, McNuggets get a bad rap. the meat at Taco Bell, SPAM, and baloney too. they're MEAT, they just happen to be what you get when you process it past a certain(easily measured and engineered around) point.
>>51037664You can always just eat normal food rather than fast food trash, you know? Costs about the same in the end.
>>51038033yeah, I know.this kid never knew though, that puts the blame on his parents/guardians.and cause of where I live it's more expensive to eat fast food than cook at home, cause I'm a 15 minute drive one-way from any food place.but then I also have a shelf in my pantry dedicated to Ramen noodles
This is a comfy thread. Keep up the quality posts, anons.Anyways, this has got me thinking, because I have a campaign coming up. What sort of rations would a medieval/ renaissance era mercenary carry on their person? Or would things like preparing food be left to camp followers?
>>51040507>mercenarya dozen men to the chuck-wagonfood is carried by the followers aside from the odd snack, like candied or dried fruit, or some extra-dry smoked meats, or a roll left over from breakfast
>>51040507Not sure for medieval one (too large period to describe anyway) but for renaissance you have grain, vinegar and if from North - dry sausage.A big comeback of Roman-style "logistics".
>>51034231Spent a year living in a hunting cabin. Ate a ton of hardtack
What would the trail rations of different races be like?(Assuming of course they conform to the norms of that races culture)I'd imagine ratfolk and orks would have at least one thing that's just good to gnaw on. What with rat-teeth and orc tusks being a thing.
>>51019267Mine is VINEGAR HUSBANDS 18+ BRING ID
>>51021066Daily reminder that whining about NO FUN ALLOWED caused the creation of an entire new board.Modern 4chan is basically "whine until you get your way, then find something else to whine about".>Quests>CYOAs>Generals>Threads about RPGs not specifically asking for clarifications on printed rules>Threads about non-mainstream RPGs not specifically asking for clarifications on printed rules
>>51019129>>51036255Eggs can also be foraged, actually.Chicken eggs are bigger and easier because they're domesticated but a nest of smaller eggs is just as edible and nutritious, in fact smaller eggs can be more nutritious.When people were actually living off the land they'd eat whatever they could find, accounting for cultural restrictions, and eggs are pretty great nutrition for the effort if you know how to find them.>>51019241>Again, if we're talking about adventurers in a fantasy world wandering the wilderness, getting into a tussle with giant monsters likely to pick you up and throw you a few dozen feet is a very real concern.If you really want to harp on realism then that's an argument against potions too.>>51019751They might if they were the size of eggs.
>>51043422You questfags will take any opportunity to bitch, won't you?
>>51044299Funny, because it was constant bitching that created /qst/, so stay mad, faggot
getting a party lost in the wilderness with low rations can be fun, just when they get tired of it they stumble into a ruins...
My players run on alcohol and pies. I'm actually genuinely surprised they survived as long as they did.
>>51045718Best thing about Isle of dread.
>>51043324Most rations probably wouldn't be all that different unless the actual diet of said race was different.The content would change a little but no more so than that of a region to region difference.For instance instead of dried fruit there may be more nuts than others if fruit is a rare commodity in that area.A anon mentioned iron rations earlier. Try looking up what was the usual for that and then tweak it depending on the region or race in question.
>>51047892>diet was differentWorded that poorly. I mean different in a way like they only eat meat or even eat a radically different kind of food like turians or something
>>51043324They might just use a captive, or even the weakest member of their troop if need was enough.
This thread inspired me to start an Adventurers Cookbook for my next game. I wrote this out this afternoon, what does everyone think?Fried Dire Rat One of the most common foes that young adventurers may face on their journey is the fearsome Dire Rat. Known for their large size and wickedly sharp teeth, the dire rat can make a formidable opponent but, once slain, also make a delicious meal and given their size, a filling one at that! Now your average dire rat’s gonna weigh somewhere between 5 and 25 pounds but I’ve heard tell of some growing as much as twice that. For this dish your gonna need the following ingredients: -A nice wide pan -A knife -Red pepper flakes -Dire ratFirst your going to want to open the beast, neck to groin, and remove the organ meat and set that aside, you can make a decent stew out of that. Then, your going to want to scrape as much fat off the inside lining of the cavity as you can and set that aside. Finally, your going to want to remove the pelt and then the feet and head. Their skulls make excellent reagents for any druids in the group. Now, take the fat and put it in the pot over the fire and throw in the legs, split from the torso and the ribs into the pan and cook until thoroughly and evenly rendered to a deep red. Add red pepper flakes for a bit of a kick. Pairs well with a Blackberry wine or juniper berry mead.
>>51049724>editsa pot is mentioned in the recipe, but not listed in the tools section.>thoughtsKEEP THIS SHIT UP YOalso, you might have a foreward that reads something like"minimalist recipes for a dangerous world, this book is made for people like you by people like you. feel free to expand on these recipes if you can."include a list of literally all the potential cooking tools and their weapon equivalents for any potential recipe in the book.>a cleaver, axe, or heavy cutlass>a pan, wok, metal shovel, or shield >a pot, waterproofed helmet, or boilable water-bag>pairing knife, small dagger, or sharp claw>etc.
>>51049724I got a serious "killing before you're killed. A introduction." From this
>>51050093The left side of that image triggers my HEMAutism.
>>51030796Fuck you, I'd absolutely play Cook-shiro: Chef of the north star. Hell it might be my next character.
>>51050093>combat as written by people that have no idea how combat workshow hard would it be to consult someone like matt easton for a fantasy game?
>>51019076>>51019046>>51019031>>51019025>>51019012>>51019001Yeah, what kind of psychopath takes raw eggs with him on a hike?
>>51036145It's kind of weird to assume that the eggs you're carrying with you are fertilized.But yeah, there are several ways to preserve fresh eggs other than boiling or pickling them when you're at home one your farm, including packing them in salt, ashes, or even lime. None of that changes the fact that eggs break really, really easily and shouldn't be carried over rough ground, let alone carried into battle.
>>51053452HAH, americans crack me up.
>>51053852Well excuuuse me, we've got a fancy man over here from some country where they raise indestructible eggs.
>>51019346You, sir, are the DM the rest of us dream of either having or being.
>>51053452what kind of pansy-bitch doesn't know the trick...
>>51049724>>51050032>>51050093Roasted Gnoll Haunch Despite their incredibly vicious nature, the common gnoll actually has several useful traits for your average adventurer. Though some have managed to raise themselves up to an acceptable level of situation, the majority still live in packs in the wilderness which is useful when your far from a tavern. Their second useful trait is that gnolls, breed like rabbits meaning that theres almost always something to eat if theres a pack of gnolls nearby. Likewise, their incredible speed leads to very well developed thighs which, while tough, can make an excellent meal for a party. Your going to need the following ingredients: -A Spit or spear or lance -Firewood (if you have the choice, I’d recommend Maple or Chestnut wood but make sure not to use any type of pine wood. It’s poisonous) -A Spit stand -A cleaver or axe -Salt -Pepper (if you have it, try and use ground black pepper) - A knife or dagger
>>51054321(2/2) First thing your going to want to do is open the creature and remove the internals. You can just throw those out, even if cooked for a long time they're absolutely horrendous. Far too tough. Your going to want to strip the creature of it’s pelt and also throw that away, its usually far too matted to be of any use for leather and far to smelly to use as a blanket. Remove the arms, head and tail. Set aside the arm bones for their marrow which is actually quite tasty. The teeth make an excellent trophy and superb scrimshaw material. Once you’ve fully cleaned the creature, split it in half vertically using the cleaver and remove the both sides of the haunch, have a barbarian or fighter help you with this. Now, remove the remainder of the leg below the curve towards their feet. This should leave you with just their thigh and buttocks which you should remove the bone from. Take your salt and pepper and mix them together in a small container and rub them onto the meat, being generous. Try and get that mixture in there. Now, set up the fire making sure that it’s burning at a low but consistent heat and set up the spit stand away from the fire. Close enough to heat the meat but not close enough that its going to burn over a long cooking. Your going to want to assign people in shifts to turn the spit and smoke the meat for several hours, the longer the better. The wood you use is going to impart some of the flavor into the meat and give it a nice texture. Pairs will with a dark beer or some Port or Pinot Noir.
>>51053876That's probably how..I was also skeptical about it, thinking that they HAD to be in their shells.>>51019046
>>51018882I don't even normally make my party count rations when staying put. I tell them, "The journey to Townsville will cost X ration from each of you." Though, as far as RP cooking goes, a druid went to Goodberry, home of the Goodberry & got some of Ted's Secret Spice to make his own goodberries all the tastier. Since they just lived off of goodberries in that campaign, I guess it counts.
>>51053434>''the goblin takes out a dagger and stabs you through the visor, you die'>lvl 20 fighter
>>51054492I think all most of us are really suggesting is that you use a short description of the rations the first time they camp. Then add in one or two sentences during a rest now and then after that.In your case I'd have mentioned the sameness and blandness of the rations, the characters choking it down 'but it is filling' then a sentence or two about the druids stuff actually being edible (more so). Maybe he even uses druidcraft or something to enhance it further.Maybe they care, maybe they don't. But in your case you should really try because one of your characters made the effort to try improve the life of his character and you should acknowledge that a few times in game.Jealousy is a wicked thing, you might find the other players really responding.
Just an idea, the adventurers can eat each other cum.
>>51054431>>51054087So the "trick" is to keep a canteen full of opened raw egg? That would only keep for 2-4 days at the most, less than that if the weather wasn't cold. Not really ideal traveling food.
>>51056234nope, it's making a carrier shell
I mean I'm literally building a cooking subsystem for my rather extensive hack of savage worlds.
>>51018882My party doesn't but thats because my current character is a celebrity chef. playing a bard with a military background but his perform checks are all based around cooking in some way. He is with the party because he'd never be able to risk going to new and exotic lands by himself, as he has gotten old.He is searching around the world for new foods new spices, and in search of perfect flavour, should it exist. I always spend my share of the loot on the areas unique herbs and spices.The plot twist is when we get to the end game I'm going to open a KFC.
>>51056379Go on.>>51057625Kommandore-fried Cockatrice? Sounds good to me.Just be wary of travelling with the guy writing the Adventurer's Cookbook. He might try to transcribe your recipe, thinking it's just a thing you're doing to help his work.
>>51057935BingoI might use the recipe as my phylactery and attempt to have him achieve lichdom. feeding on causing high cholesterol and heart failure across a thousand lands. If he takes an evil turn that is.
Speaking of food, is there a system that requires you to roll a will save or something, if your character hasn't eaten anything in a while? To stop him from just nibbling on anything on hand or nearby?
>>51058560Pendragon, in that sometimes you have to test against your Gluttony or Temperance. Though I don't think there are many circumstances in most RPGs where you're starving and food is available but you must not eat it.
>>51056285So you build some kind of science fair shit to hold an egg. This idea is getting worse by the minute.
>>51059332nope, it's just a padded container...
>>51059286Having those types of roles be more prevalent would make for very interesting stuff, stealing food, a paladin without rations having to help around a homestead, potentially having to eat a horse--
>>51057935sorry was at work, basically each 'skill level' has a couple different generic sort of foods and drinks that can be made. All of them are based off a generic ingredient and spice amount needed for each plus more specific equipment. Though ingredients have varying quality that effects the meal as well. Beyond that its a skill test to see if the dish gets made or not.
>>51059689Most games, D&D included, intentionally avoid having to worry too much about food logistics. It's negligibly easy to forage for food as you travel overland, and a druid can keep the whole party feed with Goodberry as early as level 1.
>>51060063I mean, that latter part yes but fuck no on the first unless you like roots. Good edible food is kinda hard to get.
>>51031687pics of chefs hat or GTFO
>>51060336I'm just talking about in RPGs, not in real life. A lot of the time the rules for survival skills amount to "you can find enough food for X people as you travel"
>>51059689>potentially having to eat a horseHorse meat is very good, so where is a problem with that?>>51060336Do you even play games? Where you make a roll for hunting and get X lbs of game, it's hardly an issue with "quality" food
>>51062314You ate your own fucking horse. That's what the problem is.
>>51062472As long as you are not eating stew made out of your less fortunate companions, everything is fine.
>>51062472>>51062576>Quite a route that was. Longer than the known one... and impossible to travel. We worked... very, very hard. By the time of the first snowfall we were still a hundred miles from this place. That was November. Preceding in the snow was futile. We took shelter in a cave. Decided to wait until the storm had passed. But the storm did not pass. The trails soon became impassable... and we had run out of food. We ate the oxen... all the horses... even my own dog. And that lasted us about a month. After that we turned to out belts... shoes... any roots we could dig up but you know there's no real nourishment in those. We remained famished. The day that Jones died I was out collecting wood. He had expired from malnourishment. And when I returned, the others were cooking his legs for dinner. Would I have stopped it had I been there? I don't know. But I must say... when I stepped inside that cave... the smell of meat cooking... I thanked the Lord. I thanked the Lord. And then things got out of hand. I ate sparingly. Others did not. The meat did not last us a week and we were soon hungry again only, this time our hunger was different. More... severe... savage. And Colonel. Ives, particularly, could not be satisfied. Janus was the first to be killed. And then Mr. MacCready. That left Colonel Ives, MacCready's wife, and I alone and I knew in that company that my days were numbered. I'm ashamed to say that I acted in the most cowardly manner. It would have been nobler, I know to have stayed and protected Mrs. MacCready from Ives, but... I was weak. I fled. It was nothing less than pure providence that I arrived here.
>>51062606Fuck, forget to add music... and first part of the story>I suppose I owe you gentlemen a story. We left in April. Six of us in all. Mr. MacCready and his wife, from Ireland. Mr. Janus, from Virginia, I believe... with his servant, Jones. Myself - I'm from Scotland. And our guide... a military man, coincidently. Colonel Ives. A Detestable man... and a most disastrous guide. He professed to know a new, shorter route through the Nevada's.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDl4OhRN3bQIf you will read it properly, the music will blend seamlessly.
>>51062606>>51062634Man, that sequence was simply stunning. They've filmed it few kilometers away from where I live. I actually know where the "cave" set is located.
>>51062314>horse meat is very goodNo it is fucking not.Nutritious? Arguably but if you have any other options other than your companions take it.Also you're down a horse as a previous anon said so there's that
>>51063289Have you actually ate horse meat or just read about it? Because I'm bettin a fiver you only read/heard about it. The meat is fine. All it takes is some knowledge how to prepare it, or it will turn very hard to chew.Also, you are forgetting something, along with previous anon. Horse needs to eat - depending on breed - from 1.5 to 3% of own weigh of grain DAILY. That means few kilos of grain on daily basis. If you have fodder, you yourself can't starve. If you run out of fodder and it's say, any other time of the year than summer, the horse will starve to death pretty quick, so you will have to put it down anyway. Why then not eat it?
>>51063289Next thing you gonna say is how dog meat is disgusting. Or how rabbits are useless as food.
>>51063289Original anon here. By companions I meant cannibalism. Eating your mount is fine and dandy, when you can't feed it/starving yourself. What? You gonna keep that prized stud, while not eating for past 2 weeks?Try not eating for 2 days and then tell me about self-restrains.
>>51063771Poorly worded sorry.I was agreeing with you for the most part. Eating the mount is definitely more agreeable than starving it out but it's definitely in the area of plan c or D. With plan D involving the party ranger having gone missing.If you can make it on roots and other shit until you get somewhere do it. Otherwise you're going to cause yourself even more problems when you 4 day trip do u leave in length because you ate your mount
>>51063867Wtf autocorrect butchered that.*when your 4 day trip doubles in length because you ate your mount.
>>51063730>implying implications >>51063713You at least get what I mean here. Unless you prepare it properly (which I'm curious as to this proper way honestly) horse meat turns into a horribly tough chewy meat. I mean of course horrible meat > no meat but let's not oversell this here
>>51063937The easiest way to deal with horse meat it to just ground it. This alone solves most of problems when later heating. If you need to keep it in one piece/chunks/whatever else, just first boil it for a short while and then roast normally on a pan.Besides, horse meat is mostly served raw, so go figure.My grandma used to serve frikadellers made out of horse meat.
>>51018882>How much effort does you and your team put into RP for food when traveling?Virtually none, unless we're playing some like Ryuutama.
I actually looked up to figure out just what kind of shit you would need to eat to fulfill 2000 calories a day with only one pound of food a day for the 5e rules of travel.Lots of fatty cuts of meat and trail mix.
>>51054321>>51054329>eating subhumanoidsI'm not sure how I feel about this...that being said...
>>51019001The most troubling part of the whole thing -- making allowances for dietary supplementation from the supermarket -- is that the dude has like 15 pans.The fuck. I carry an iron skillet and a fairly shallow pot with me when I ruck and that's it. Enough to fry whatever I find and boil water, basically.Anything else is pointless weight.This dude is cooking in his back yard in what looks like northern Pennsylvania, New York, or possibly southern Canada.
>>51063289>No it is fucking not.Horse meat is gamey, sure, and sometimes a bit slimy to the taste of Amerifats, and it's not as good as bear, but shit's good enough to eat.
>>51064232Almondpaste, my nigga.>has around 450-500 calories in it per 100g.>read the packaging after having eaten 1½ packets of it through the day>mfw i just ate 3500+ calories in six hours
>>51064317That's where the trail mix comes in. Fucking nuts and dried fruit have so many fucking calories per ounce jesus christ. You only need a bit of bread for some carbs and maybe some leafy greens for the rest of your vitamins and you're good. You get all that fiber from the dried fruit skins.
>>51022226>Jas. Townsend and SonGood, someone mentioned it. Some of his food is MAXIMUM COZY. While you have to put up with him pushing product, I find both the videos and the store page to be a good jumping-off point for replicating the outcome off fewer jewbux.
>>51020508sounds fine and dandy as fuck dood
>>51064252ASK AND YOU SHALL RECEIVE! Darkmantle Caragol There does not exist a more contemptible creature then the darkmantle save for perhaps the mimic. They are tricksters and can make life very difficult for an unsuspecting adventurer. And to top it all off, they are for the most part supremely untasty and difficult to prepare. An interesting fact however, is that the darkmantle is actually more closely related to the common snail then it is to squid or octopi. For this recipe you will need the following: -A thick knife -Red Wine (I’d recommend a pinot noir but in a pinch just about any red will do) -salt, lots of it. -a large pot -a few cloves of garlic (nice, but not essential) -water(1/2)
>>51064252>>51066436 For this recipe, the preparation itself is not particularly difficult to describe but is very time consuming. Your going to want to flip the darkmantle on its end so that you can see it’s underside. Most of the dark mantle is incredibly tough, ranging somewhere between solid stone for it’s shell and a very tough leather for it’s membrane and outer tentacles. However, around the mouth where the tentacles converge and meet the membrane, the flesh is much weaker. You are going to want to carefully, very carefully, cut around the radius and disconnect this flesh from the rest of the body. You should now be able to see the internals of the darkmantle. You are now going to find the darkmantle’s stomach which should be connected to where the mouth was, cut through the top of it and gently start pulling which should expose the digestive system which is connected to the darkmantle’s mantle with some sinewy tissue. Remove all of this and throw it away. Sever the tentacles and membrane and throw those away as well. Use the knife to separate the shell from the mantle. Once separated, rub the salt into the flesh, liberally and bring a pot of water to boil. Place the flesh of the mantle back into the shell and rest the shell in the water, adding the red wine and minced garlic into the shell. Cook until the flesh takes on a thick sludgy texture and remove from the water. Serves roughly 4 to 5 people depending on the mantle. Pairs well with a dunkel or stout beer or save some of the pinot noir. (2/2)
>>51064252>>51066468I'm pretty tired right now but there's a decent chance I'll do some more tomorrow morning if the threads still up.
I've always been partial to goblin cooking. I know, most humans don't have a taste for it, what with all the salt, but it's some of the best trail rations I've ever had. Saltpack Carp with goatsbutter, in one of those flatbreads they make out of milled beans and black rye flour? And they're the only folk other than men and halflings that knows how to make proper colcannon, even if it's kind of weird they include leeks.I tell you, salt fried sunchokes, stew of mackerel, eggs and greens, and spiced honeycomb for dessert. If the brewed a half decent drink, I wouldn't even talk to you assholes.I swear, I can only do their roasted grain tea with goatsmilk for a short while before I need something that works up the blood proper like ale or kaffa or tea.
>>51064262>dude has like 15 pans.I think they're just from his different out-of-doors 'kits'>>51064317man, if you are on the march carrying a pack and more, 3500 calories in six hours is not really all that crazy.we ate that much and more at Philmont, and we averaged about a pound of weight lost per person per day for the whole 11 days.>>51020508or the tower-watch game we discussed several months agohttp://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/49546675/>>51023882people say that, but were there other root vegetables?>>51065441his name might be turk?
>>51018882The loli oracle had ranks in cooking, so got a magical component pouch as a gift that doubled as a masterwork spice pouch. She loved it for 3/4 of the game, upon which the BBEG (which gave it to her) was discovered to be spying on the party through it, and it almost got her killed.She was sad for quite a while after that.
>>51062576ok, so how are you going to get further on to where there might be better game or edible plants? How're you going to carry all that shit especially when you're weak with hunger? Not saying there isn't a time and place to eat your horse but, more often than not the cons far outweigh the cons.
>>51069259I was sitting on my fat, neckbeard ass, nibbling on it whilst at my computer.>3500 calories in six hours is not really all that crazy
>>51018882My group regularly goes quite far with food RP. Our PCs are poorfags so instead of paying for food, we survive by hunting down dungeon monsters specifically so we can use them as ingredients. Also, almost all of our hostile encounters have been on foraging trips for edible vegetation.We go into fairly reasonable detail into how our PCs prepare our meals just so the DM doesn't just say we've been poisoned. Everyone in our group is actually a decent cook in real life, so we know what we're talking about. And yes, we've all read Dungeon Meshi
>>51069259>I think they're just from his different out-of-doors 'kits'Yeah. That he brings out into his back yard along with the rest of the supplies from the refrigerator.
>>51064389Trial mix is horrible source of energy, especially when you consider the ingredients.There are barely ANY simple sugars, not to mention complex fatty acids. All of which requires energy first to digest them and turn into simplier structures. Fucking chocolate is easier to get energy from.So you would be better by eating raisins than trial mix if you need energy here and now, and that's usually when trail mix is eaten.
>>51069259>3500 calories in six hours is not really all that crazyIf you are, say, coal miner at the front of the excavation, working like an ox for 10 hours.
>>51070179Anon, have you EVER felt what hunger feels like?I'm not saying skipping a breakfast or being late for dinner. I'm talking about situation where you didn't eat for few days straight.At such point thinking about imaginary or possible food source somewhere "there" is just ridiculous, because you will die trying to reach them. Bonus points if you can't be 100% sure there is food there, but just an assumption there will/should be some.Also, as noted by other anon, horses need feed. Especially those carrying some heavy weight, like a rider and/or his gear.Meaning your horse is starving too, and the possible food you can forage somewhere esle or just get (say, a stockpile of old sardine cans you know it's there), might be useless for the horse.ALSO, assuming your biggest need is to survive yourself, instead of carrying, say, dutch oven, then you can carry all the food you will eat for next month all by yourself.In short - eating your horse when there is nothing else to eat is the wisest choice around, if you can't reach your destination on horseback within next 3-5 days. Because prolonging your own death by starvation by eating the horse and carrying it around for next 2-3 weeks is better than dying within next few days in really agonizing way.
>>51066538This is awesome.