Besides Alien and Alien: Isolation, what are some other notable examples of this aesthetic that aren't cyberpunk in nature (but may have similar themes)? Also, post CF art.
Firefly is pretty similar. 40k if you delete skulls.
>>68322133Isn't Firefly more space western?
>>68322089I quite liked the new Prey’s art direction. I would have preferred they’d done more with it though.
>>68322198Yes but aesthecally it's junky looking overcrowded terminals all the way.
>>68322309I can't get enough of Art Deco, and merging it with retro-futuristic themes is god-tier art direction.>>68322316Hm. Fair enough. I'll have to give it a re-watch.
>>68322309hopefully we can get a sequel in a place more worried about aesthetics than scientific function>>68322089There's that game that's never going to release, Routine
>>68322089Logan's Run, definitely. Also Star-Trek Original.
>>68323937>There's that game that's never going to release, RoutineI just watched a few trailers for it. It's exactly what I'm looking for and I'm pissed it's not out.
>>68324161>Star-Trek OriginalIt’s basically just cardboard walls and old car seats
>>68324291But that shit's aesthetic as fuck. There's something so charming to be about the way they built their sets with a limited budget and the way the final product looks.
>>68324259why you gotta bring up routine man, I had just gotten over it
>>68322089Robert Heinlein novels
>>68322089I feel like Mass Effect sorta fits this aesthetic
>>68327454I can see it, kinda...
>>68326807I don't have any attachment to it because I didn't know such a game existed before today. It's a shame it's vaporware though.
>>68323973Came here to post this
>>68329212Then forgot my fucking picture
>>68322089Would homeworld qualify? >>68322419Simon's work fits the bill i guess idk
>>68322089>Alien: IsolationSpeaking of here's the artbook.https://e-hentai.org/g/1385240/97dde99f9e/
>>68322089Ultraman, anon.I can't quite find an example and I'm too lazy to open an episode and screenshot.but when they aren't blowing suits up or making oddly violent action scenes, there's a lot of cassette action going on
>>68329304I love Homeworld's ship design.>>68329896>E-HentaiUh, well, thanks.
>>68322089I cant post a picture right now, but check the movie Prospect out, has some good set designAlso, why does low-budget scifi feels more grounded than CGI-fest scifi?
>>68330606whats this from? i love this art
I think this is related.
Lost in Space on Netflix had this sort of vibe to it, it's worth a peep for any science fiction fans.
Would Robocop count?
The US Navy is taking out it's touchscreens and going back to analog dials and switches.https://www.slashgear.com/us-navy-to-move-away-from-touchscreens-on-warships-12586947/pic unrelated
>>68322089Solaris is Kino quality Futurism.
>>68330343e-hentai has tons of artbooks and non-h material that can't be found elsewhere.Also wasn't it supposed to be dead by now?
>>68322089The style you are looking for is basically the sci-fi films from the late 60s until the end of the 70s. Back then Hollywood and Sci-Fi writers were optimistic about the men on the moon, civil rights and progressive themes. (except for Vietnam)Cyberpunk as a pessimistic view of the future started to be elaborated in the 80s, then we had Reaganism, Madman doctrine, Chernobyl etc... Future didn't looked so bright.
>>68333280>wasn't it supposed to be dead by now?Fortunately there are still a couple countries where the government doesn't care more about protecting drawings of children than real ones, so it just moved.
>>68332612You imagine an mmorpg that uses cassette technology?
>>68322089Battlestar Galactica - the original series from the 80'sUFOSpace CampSilent RunningSpace 19992001: A Space OdysseyThe Last EyeThe Black Hole
>>68333173Why would they ever move to touch screen to begin with?
Well, sort of related.Not cyberpunk and not space opera neither.
Cybersyn control room, Chilean socialist project during Allende years.They almost achieved Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism.
>>68322628I never knew I needed this until today.
>>68333682I'm sure the hallways look like garbage but that's not a bad way to take advantage of the outer walls.
>>68322089Those savages aren't even using coasters!
>>68322089That you for not calling it "-punk."
>>68322628how do you fold it?
>>68333696so what did they do there?
>>68332453I think it's because it's actually really real. Try as they might, CGI effects creators aren't going to get something to look exactly as it would if it really existed. Plus, a lot of movie studios nowadays are just rushing effects through, so they might look shittier than they have to.
>>68322089I'd say the Alliance–Union universe by C. J. Cherryh counts, at least from the descriptions in a few of the books.
>>68335761The descriptions make the ships sound cramped, the bridges seem cluttered, and all the computer stuff is on magnetic tape. There's people smuggling microfiches and the potential for automation of things is limited.
>>68333304It moved to fucking Moldova, who cares about neither.
>>68333590Because some idiots are obsessed with updating systems just for the sake of updating them. A lot of components to military computer systems are outdated as fuck, but that's because if it ain't broke why fix it?
>>68333654What revolutionary technology!
there's some of htat in the vibeo gamaru Control, despite taking place in Current Year it's sent in a building hosting a company that deals with SCP objects amd forbids modern technology so everything is an 80s mac book, recordings are left on briefcase-sized audiographs and videos are presented with projectors or old CRTs.
>>68333327like a MUD or Ultima?
>>68322089Beyond the Black Rainbowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi7aQ-bKziY
Outland 1981Aesthetically it is very close to the Alien
>>68333173When your swishing about in the air or space or sea you need a stick you can hold onto as well as manouver with. Far more accurate for high stress than trying to slide a finger on a potentially moving screen
I want a space TV show where I can see the ceiling of the ship they are in. 12 foot decks on spaceships are such a peeve of mine.
>>68335503You take the phone out.
>>68335566Real-time monitoring of and communication with every government managed business in Chile's capital. They also did a lot of economic predictions there.
>>68332518It's from Simon Stålenhag - he has a nice website full of similar art and two art books
>>68339236And he did the illustrations for Tales from the Loop, a.k.a Stranger Things: The Roleplaying Game.
>>68322198It is but the tech aside from guns is casette futurism. It's not like the old west had any of that shit so it makes sense, its a "dated" aesthetic from the time when new frontiers in tech were just being explored, like early internet and mass media. So thematically it fits with the western aesthetic.
>>68324321Prey was like Cassette Futurism wearing a coat of Art Deco. I loved the aesthetic.Shame the characters were so ugly.
>>68341052And dont forget analogue drones.
>>68333280The panda was saved
>>68333645>mystery room Dude thats the podbay from 2001 a spess odyssey
>>68333696Looks like a bond villain's boardroom.
>>68322089Outland is pretty much Alien/Aliens without an Alien.
>>68322089System Shock 2 seems to kinda fit the bill doesn't it?
>>68333696They really didn't.
>>68338267It seemed liked they used a lot of the same production staff and such in Britain who had worked on Alien. Also Gunhed's another great example of the genre.
>>68335566Received notices from down the production-distribution chain and sent orders down the production-distribution chain. So it made worker management easier.We actually can do all of this with emails and telephones, now. Companies and governments do it to some level. But micromanaging a big organization is counter-productive overall because of necessary information bottlenecks. The USSR also had proto-internets but they weren't like the decentralized, wild west systems we got.
>>68322089Literally pick ANY sci-fi made between 1970 and 1990
>>68342348>We actually can do all of this with emails and telephones, now.They were doing it *with* telephones. Telex is just a computer terminal connected over phone lines that puts ink on paper for output.
>>68333696It didn't work, it was very expensive and it was basically mastubarting failing centralised economic planning which contributed to the ole coup thing. That said, it does look very cool.
>>68327454It does. At least, the original does. The later games kind of departed from it which is sad. It's got a sleeker, more futuristic look at it but it's still in its blood.
check out the movie Prospect. pretty sure it fits exactly what you're looking for.
>>68335503I don't think the screen is attached to the keyboard.
>>68343687Love the MtG cards scattered about.
>>68322341>>68333654>>68338322At the risk of turning this into /gd/, why does it feel like the 70s had a head start on minimal/flat designs, at least compared to the 90s/00s?
>>68322089PREY 2017 mostly keeps itself to art deco, but it definitely rubs up against this in places.Not the casettes exactly, but more in the Mass Effect 1 sense of paying homage to those classic concept art designs from boyhood science magazines. Y'know, the kind where some middle aged dad is relaxing on a deckchair on an orbital ring while a robot pushes his lawnmower, yet his wife is still the one serving him lemonade for some reason. If you're a fan of old aesthetics made new it's an amazing game.
>>68333609Where does Raygun Gothic end and Casette Furturism begin?
>>68347497Apollo. Gemini was still Raygun.
>>68346608>>68327454>>68343730Mass Effect 1 definitely does because a lot of the art direction in that game was referencing cool Syd Mead shit. Hell, half this thread is Syd Mead drawings and I can't say I blame them.
Don't know if this fits entirely, but it's still cool.
On the topic of Cassettepunk, which jet fighter would you choose to be a design templace? I would pick the MiG-21 or the Sea Dart personally.
>>68322089Babylon 5Battlestar Galactica (original)Outlaw StarTenchi MuyoNeon Genesis EvangelionMacross/Robotech80s-90s Gundam seriesThere's a lot of overlap with "Used Future."
>>68348938F-14 Tomcat. Biggest, baddest thing in the sky at the time, and inside and out it matches the aesthetic.
>>68333280The panda was saved because some guy paid to have the servers moved to a former Soviet bloc country that thinks drawings don't need to be protected from creeps.
>>68348938>CassettepunkAt least the OP had the decency to not use that term, you fucking degenerate
>>68348572Does stuff like this count as being part of the same aesthetic of Cassette Futurism, or is it something different that was just made around the same decade?
>>68349784Also C&C 1, 2, and Generals. A whole lot of turn of the millenium media features it when they're not aping straight cyperpunk.
>>68350553Remains cost effective.
>>68350586it can have a pretty bad shelf life however
>>68333195Shame it's so fucking slow
>>68348938>CassettepunkTo answer your question,>Tomcat-B>Eagle-A>Flanker-C>Tornado GR.1 I know, attack aircraft, I know>F-16A
>>68351904Yeah, you have to watch it at 1.2 speed. It also helps to play some Daft Punk in the background too.
>>68352018>Yeah, you have to watch it at 1.2 speed.Huh, might try that>It also helps to play some Daft Punk in the background too.What the fuck?
For RPGs I think Traveller qualifies. Especially a lot of the Megatraveller-era stuff.
>>68348938Why do we need to stick “punk” on the end of everything now?I can’t wait to play as a knight in a castlepunk game
>>68353295>castlepunkthat works though, you play as servants and other low-ranking individuals in and around the castle and try to get by while The Man (or rather The Lord) try to keep you down
>>68338322I was born in 1987 and my dad used to have a fucking load of these books with sid meade, battletech sketches, concept art and other stuff.Say what you will about boomers, but the kids born at the very end of their time had high hopes for what the future (now present) should have been like.And instead we got this disappointment of a world.
>>68353329You mean... the Local Lord?
>>68353350Then there were also many pessimistic expectations - from nuclear war to overpopulation, environmental disasters, economic crises and corruption. Alien and Blade Runner is definitely not an optimistic movie.
>>68353329Castlepunk is about the generational conflict between the old who own the land, the middle aged who manage the land and the young who understand the land.
>>68322089Original Star Trek.
>>68353260Does Mongoose Traveller still fall into that category?
>>68353698This is more like the 1960s than the Middle Ages.
>>68351277Bad compared to what?
Bumping because Iove this style.
>>68354111You love it? Great. Here's an exciting new product that has absolutely nothing to do with the well-documented and absolute impossibility of time travel.
>>68354068paper, or evidently stone since that's what the oldest recorded written information is "stored" on. I know both digital and plastic (i.e laser discs) storage media also have ageing problems but the average magnetic tape has a shelf life of 30-50 years?
>>68353329>>68353698Ok, if you did it like that then the name would fit, rather than just generic anything but sticking punk on the name>Tfw caught poaching by the local lord’s thousand men at arms in plate harness
>>68354239That's under ideal conditions, which you can impose but a casual consumer won't. Under normal circumstances it's 10-20 years. But for the next best option, aside from single-write stuff, 10 years is pushing it under ideal circumstances.
>>68332591Anyone got source on bottom left?
>>68355280Holy shit those cartridge names.
>>68353350>And instead we got this disappointment of a world.A combination of Soviet and Chinese agents, jealous foreigners, subversive Jews, oil selling Arabs, and murderous darkies has been keeping us down since the 60s. If we had let Joe McCarthy finish purging communists no matter how many of them turned out to be Jews (this is why he was forced to stop), we'd have colonies on moons of Jupiter and Saturn by now. Thankfully we're finally turning things around.
I remember when we broke down Cassette Futurism into Formica Punk and Cartridge Gothic.Good stuff.
>>68355882>Joe McCarthyFuck off. The only communist agents he caught was by accident. His incompetence tainted anti-communism forever.
Man, haven’t seen one of these threads in a while >>68357182That was great stuff
>>68357494>The only communist agents he caught was by accidentt. Ivan
>>68357593The HUAC decided Bertol fucking Brecht wasn't a communist. That should tell you how good they were at detecting communism. They were worse at identifying communism than many Paranoia parties.
Anybody got any appropriate weaponry pics?
>>68357847might have a few. It's hard to know where the breakoff between this aesthetic and later more 80's-90's begin in firearms though
>>68358096Weren't there only like 3k of these made?>>68358033Wasn't this the gun that basically led a lot of the gun bans of the late 80s/early 90s?
>>68322437I love this so much.
>>68347497It's primarily a shift in the romanticism. Raygun Gothic features a more independent and decentralized view of space and and the future, while Cassette Futurism a more regulated and controlled view of space and the future. Or, more glibly, Cassette Futurism is when the realism kicks in.>>68348938Cassette Futurism, you mong. It's an aesthetic, not a subgenre.Although if you archive trawl for the first major Cassette Futurism threads from a year or two ago, they posited two distinct genres within Cassette Futurism. Formicapunk, named after the eponymous comic already posted in this thread, which focuses on the whimsical, the gonzo, and general pop culture idea of the technology and aesthetic, and Cartridge Gothic, which is much more down-to-Earth and serious portrayal of the technology that hedges towards verisimilitude.
>>68350117It fits, but is probably a bit of an early transitional look.
>>68357786Considering that McCarthy led to the opposition of organized investigation into government subversion by foreign powers that continues until this day, the most amazing thing about him is that he wasn't actually a Soviet agent.
>>68358175>Weren't there only like 3k of these made?no, 176 actually>>68358175>Wasn't this the gun that basically led a lot of the gun bans of the late 80s/early 90s?it might have been a part of the drive to classify open bolt semi-autos as machineguns because some of them where considered easy to convert to full-auto. Also the TEC-9 got it's reputation at the same time, but that's out of the scope of this thread
>>68355882Dude are you for real
>>68359299 <- checkedWhere do you think we are?
>>68358077Ah, yes: Linda, the ultimate weapon.
Air Force ICBM launch capsules fit the aesthetic pretty well.
>>68358033So you're supposed to walk around with a loaded mac10 all the time? Is that even legal in Texas?
>>68361464Depends on the year.
>>68361464it's legal anywhere that lets you open carry (or conceal carry if you're wearing a jacket over it). There's a huge problem though and that is that you're OC/CCing a mac-10
This thread has awakened something in me
>>68360648>literally chair force
>>68363331In a good way, I hope.
>>68363609It's either the force or murder.
Cassette Futurism just makes me feel indignant - like my future was stolen from me.
>>68324161I mean that’s just sci-fi from the era where cassettes WERE futuristic. There’s tons of similar crap from the 70s. Battlestar Galactica for example. I think OP was asking about more recent examples.
>>68364456You can always contrive a situation where we'd be stuck with the sort of tech typical in cassette futurism. I like the idea of some kind of alien force/energy that reeks havoc on more advanced digital electronics so to work in and around those areas you've pushed old fashioned tech to it's logical extremes.
>>68364456Logan's Run isn't, but Star Trek as some elements even though it's actually just 50s sci-fi aesthetics repackaged for 1967.
>>68364651New BSG is exactly that. Old BSG is more or less Star Wars, which when stripped of its science fantasy elements is very much cassette futurism.
>>68357786Why was a Senator leading a House Committe? It's almost as if McCarthy wasn't actually involved in the HUAC. Funny how far the Commies got, innit?
>>68363337And yet infinitely more powerful than literally the entire of human armed manpower in all of existence.Fear the chair.
>>68361464I'd do it anywhere I could, legal or not.
>>68364260Same, to be honest. It's like good design and aesthetics just died in the 90s along with a lotta good things.
>>68365159Having lived through the 90s, there were a lot of shit design and aesthetics.
>>68364260The aesthetic isn't "dead" per se; check out these modern self-checkout machines. IBM still exists.It's just everyone would rather have Apple aesthetic.
>>68366129I don't think that is what Anon meant. Although I'd really put Cassette Futurism "dying" in 2005 when high-speed internet reached over 50% market share.
>>68364260Let's be indignant together anon
>>68364651Reminds me of one of the Heavy Armor games. basically a supervirus eats polymers necessary for electronics to work (like plastics) forcing the world to revert to dieselpunk style weapons and armor including Veets (Vertical tanks, literal walkers).
>>68323937>RoutineI was really looking forward to that. Shame.>>68326813This actually.
Ctrl F says, noone mentioned Breathedge yet.
>Ctrl+f>No mention of ManiacHow? This show was kino. And for how little love this genre gets, you can't afford not to watch this.
>>68365392Yes, that's what I mean. The 90s were awful.
>>68366129>It's just everyone would rather have Apple aesthetic.And we need to remedy to that.
I have been thinking about a casettepunk setting. The only way i see to do it i, people gets forced to go back to a more primitive tech because some catastrophe, because older tech is easier to make. So, we have a distant colony, with enough people to make it interesting, that we reached through an easy way (some wormhole, even from earth surface, so no need of space travel). Suddenly the wormhole fails, like in blue planet rpg, and they are on their own. At first they do well, but with time advance tech starts to fail, and although they have advanced theoretical knowledge, they lack the technical details to build the most advanced one (it was cheaper to send it through the wormhole that to make it in the colony). Maybe they lived in a giant oneill space habitat: two connected cylinders, one for the masses, that live a easy live with a universal income , caring about nothing but a leisure life playing videogames, and the other is for people with more benefits because they care to study, make scientific research, etc... An accident happens and the cylinder with the elites gets destroyed, and the "eloi" life starts to slowly crack. There are still techies and scientific guys, but not a critical mass, and they lack the details of the very advanced tech they enjoyed. Overpopulation happens because nobody cares about warnings about how tech is failing in the long term.Continues....
>>68369984Social strife ensues as strategic tech starts to fail, social is on the verge of colapse, lot of people dies (among them, a lot of scientifics and engineers) and soon a populist gov. Takes the power. they restore order, blame in the elites, they start purges, that only makes things worse in the long term, as engineers and technical people were among the people killed or sent to gulag. Eventually they realize their mistakes, starts to educate people, force people to work, etc.. So basically think of cuba in space, or a less succesfull china, with private companies but a single political party, a mix of "brazil", "aliens" and "chernobyl". So they know about internet, fusion, robots and the like, but they lack the details to build the advanced quantum/optical chips, so they must do it again but with 80s tech. The party's elites had acces to the surviving pieces of old high tech. They start outposts all over their solar system to get raw materials, so you have space travel, space stations, diferent places to visit. Space travel is cheap but slow.. surviving tech like giant 3d printers are still used to make cheap space habitats, but that tech is few and starting to fail. Most people have 70s tech
>>68369996I don’t think you even need a rationale. Basically, things here look futuristic even by today's standards and differ from the modern idea of the future only aesthetically, and not so much. Contrary to the name, cassettes are unlikely to be of fundamental importance.
>>68322089>le retro xDreddit
>>68332453>Also, why does low-budget scifi feels more grounded than CGI-fest scifi?For startest? Because casette futurist & low budget sci-fi works at least PRETEND to have interfaces designed to be used & read by humans.I don't give two fucks about wether or not your ships have '''''unrealistic''''' weapons & ships are, but when I see hapless spessgirls wave their hands around in a giant-ass holo cube like loons trying to accept a single call it just BREAKS my immersion.Technology needs to be human & humane, otherwise it just has no reason to be there.
>>68371166>For startest? Because casette futurist & low budget sci-fi works at least PRETEND to have interfaces designed to be used & read by humans.>I don't give two fucks about wether or not your ships have '''''unrealistic''''' weapons & ships are, but when I see hapless spessgirls wave their hands around in a giant-ass holo cube like loons trying to accept a single call it just BREAKS my immersion.>Technology needs to be human & humane, otherwise it just has no reason to be there.On this board in such cases it is customary to say that you have no imagination and killing fun.
>>68368898>>68366129Yet another thing TNG made worse for everyone.(OG series obviously tried but not as successfuly and especially the older seasons are at least somewhat more grounded).
>>68370532Thank you for your very insightful comment.
>>68365392The 90s and 2000s killed the futureEverything is just a remake of something else now
>>68322089Does Battlestar Galactica count? Probably only in part, and definitely not the whole setting, but the Galactica itself has that rugged old-style tech look that might scratch the same itch.
Okay, here's a question:What's something that you would like to see in Cassette Futurism, but never have?
>>68374694Different kinds of cassettes for different purposes and in different sizes. Imagine a Microcassette you can carry along as a small storage medium for your multipurpose handheld telephone or a format war between lots of small cassette standardsIdk, I guess more Cassette in my Cassette Futurism
>>68322089I find it funny that cassette tapes are selling more than ever nowdays.
>>68374694A reasonable explanation as to why everything isn't connected as an Internet of Things.
>>68375135The Internet of Things is an offshoot of wireless internet, without it you need to hardline everything.
>>68357550whaddafuq is a 'druze pile'?
>>68376154it's a pile for druze.
>>68375703>>68375135In those threads a while back we spitballed the concept that technology developed an infrastructure that produced waves of energy that interfere with wireless communication beyond radio frequencies. So, radio tech advanced, hardline technology advanced, but cellphones and Wi-Fi as they are now never existed.>But science could be used to overcome that obstacle with superior technology!Game Gear and BetaMax were superior to Gameboy and VHS. Didn't matter.
>>68346608Second time I’ve seen Prey mentioned in this thread. It was the only game I have ever preordered, and I was not disappoint. Sad that it was sort of a sleeper hit, hopefully the devs/producers don’t think of the game as a failure.
>>68376154My next reaction image for the Infinity thread.Also where's that screenshot from, it looks hilarious.
>>68376653>Also where's that screenshot from, it looks hilarious.Are you serious?
>>68376264We also kinda agreed that it's irrelevant to CF as a whole, since it's an aesthetic, and that it should be relegated to an aspect of setting. IIRC, that specific concept was one of three settings we spitballed to the point of having a solid foundation for development. >Radio Killed the Video StarTechnological infrastructure destabilizes high bandwidth wireless transmission.>Sovtechnika The computer revolution and internet is born in the USSR.>The CityLate 60s/early 70s technocratic, biosphere, urban utopia mixing then cutting edge technology with New Age mysticism and beliefs that's been declining since before it opened.
>>68376264>superior technology always wins out History of technology and design is littered with idiosyncrasies and inefficiencies today precisely because superior technology often loses out or is compromised with other concerns, technical or otherwise. It amazes me that people who actually live in 2019 think that what we have now is just the result of tech being superior to its predecessors when they actually use this junk.
>>68367737What's the purpose of a parallel laser array like that? I can't think of any situation where it would be preferable to a single beam of similar output.
>>68377469Redundancy in combat scenarios. Also, given the SU's technological capacity, they probably couldn't actually make a singular laser of similar output for a variety of reasons.
>>68372318The original series certainly did.
>>68377188You realize you are agreeing with the post you're responding to, right?
>>68377469To have a wider sweepThis thing was designed to dazzle EO sensors, so a point beam would make it less likely to hit a sensor in the short window you may only have on target
>>68377686Totally. Just chiming in with agreement.
>>68378017Need more of these.
>>68333590So that any panel in the vessel can be converted to a command helm. Usually there are lots of specific knobs and dials required, but a touch screen can be configured to fit whatever layout is needed. It theoretically removes the need for a battle bridge since, after a direct hit to the bridge, surviving officers can resume helm/fire control from wherever. As long as you're still afloat, you can move and return fire.
>>68322089Being heavily inspired by Alien, EVOLVE had a similar aesthetic.
>>68333173They're NOT taking the touch screens out. The article your article is citing does not say that. They are adding supplemental controls.>During his court martial last year, Butler testified that the extent of training he received to operate the IBNS was an hour-long session with a master helmsman on the waterfront who was familiar with IBNS and then the tech manuals. With that knowledge, he in turn had to train the crew of McCain to operate the IBNS>“[It was] difficult to get training,” he testified. “We asked for the techs to come over, but they never showed.”>Though qualified to stand their watches by Navy standards, the crew’s understanding of the less-than-one-year-old navigation system was poor, the NTSB found.That's hilarious.
>>683392363 art books. Tales From The Loop and Things From The Flood are well-known, but there's another one that's set in America, The Electric State.
>>68380382Aren't they adapting 'The Electric State' to a film?
>>68333384What's with all the U-Wings?
>>68377634New series you mean, it's explicitly baked into the concept.
>>68322209Hot AF space chicks
>>68355882It's GOD's punishment for the White Race.I just accept it now and bow my head ...
>>68322089>cyberpunk in natureyou mean a world where cybernetic body modification has become a way of life, and the underlying theme is rebellion against the NWO consummer culture pushed by huge corporate machines?FFS people, when will you understand, that Blade Runner is NOT cyberpunk...
>>68368898>wanting Apple aestheticIt was sold to people and marketed to them....corporate brainwashing for the already numb brainless masses
>>68383161By that measure neither is Neuromancer. Quit assuming that Cyberpunk 2020 is the end all, be all definition of cyberpunk.
>>68364260>>68367304>indignantburning with the fires of Orc
>>68383180i'm not assuming that, but cyberpunk is about the attitude, not aesthetic.Neuromancer has a cyber hacker in it. Blade Runner is a neo-noir detective flick about chasing a bunch of fugitives.Lawnmower Man 2 is more cyberpunk than BR.It just happens that the idea of cyberpunk came out of the 1980s, when technology was quickly entering our world in strides. Nowadays, a quad-core, 1.5 GHz SBC with 4 gigs of ram, and 4k video output is just a novelty. In the 1980s, a portable cassete player represented a quantum leap in personal technology.If you want cyberpunk, check out Johnny Mnemonic, Lawnmower Man 2, William Shatner's Tekwar, even Robocop (the tv series).For me, to qualify as cyberpunk, the world must embrace the invasion of technology into our daily lives, even (and especially) in times of economic crysis (you eat onions prepacks, and get 2 hours of hot running water a day, but you have a data terminal built into your "smart" apartment).
>>68383161>>68383362Well, it's a good goddamn thing this thread isn't about cyberpunk, isn't it? We don't need this tired argument to rear its head again.
>>68372270>>68369996>Muh poopulist meanies blame the ruling class that dindu nuffinAsk your doctor if suicide is right for you.>>68376264>BetamaxThis myth has to die. It only had a slight advantage in quality and a vast disadvantage in recording length and exclusive production rights.
>>68383411agreed. It's about retro-futurism. AKA - how the 70s and 80s imagined the future, with bulky CRT monitors, and computers the size of a desk. There is an artist that did pic related, and a few more, here: https://shenglam.artstation.com/projects/zADNeZ
>>68346273You should study art history. Minimalism burgeoned as a serious aesthetic movement in the 60s. It began in the fine arts where it caused quite a stir. The scope of its influence grew to encompass design, architecture, literature, film and music. The movement reached its creative peak in the mid to late 70s. By the 90s/00s the novelty of minimalism had mostly worn off. Minimalist artworks that were once considered shocking and challenges to the taste of the establishment, now adorned the lobbies of corporations. It lost most of it's bite when it became the defacto visual language of corporate culture. By then the original minimalists were pushing 70, and the movement was seen as passe by younger artists.
>>68383749I love that design Here’s a question for the thread today though: Modern websites done offline or analog, how do they work in a Cassette Futurism setting? With YooTube it’s simple, a well organised, phone-based video ordering service that accepts home-made videos too, as well as recommending and redistributing them. You order a video you wish to see (or a whole set of videos even in multiple video cassettes they call “Playlists”) and it is conveniently delivered to your home via pneumatic tube within minutes of the order, alongside a small catalog of recommended viewing after you are done with your current tape.
>>68383749I think that CF spans a pretty broad swath of real world time, so much so that one could easily divide the aesthetic into concrete periods. You've got Early Transitional period covering the late 60s and early 70s with the big monolithic computers and punch cards that are primarily highly specialized applications in research and business, limited user interfaces, and no real networking. The First era, covering roughly the early 70s through late 80s, where we start to see what we really think of as modern computing with things like monitors, cartridges and disks being the primary data storage and transfer formats, commercialization, but still very clunky and with limited networking capability. The Second era, which covers the late 80s through late 90s, the internet is born, optical storage mediums are coming into play while high density magnetic storage and flash memory are cutting edge, lots of commercialization and home use. And the Late Transitional period, covering the late 90s through mid-00s, heavy drive towards miniaturization, high density data storage is becoming the norm, lots of competing hardware and software that never really goes anywhere, the rise of social media, and increasing obsolescence. While such a distinction is largely irrelevant from the perspective of disconnected retrofuturism, it'd probably get some use if you're shooting for real world analogues. And yes, I know that in the real world most of the shit we take for granted as being modern in computing hardware is actually really old or based on long-known principles, just finally getting cost-effective or practical for common use.
>>68384018Early BBS and historical online service providers is pretty much exactly what you'd be looking at. Given that you can transmit video through a phone line, the high end version of what you suggest would be directly writing the videos to your storage device through the phone line.
>>68384018>Modern websites done offline or analog, how do they work in a Cassette Futurism setting?well depending on how late you're willing to stretch it I imagine most sites that are primarily text based would transfer over pretty easily, after all BBS's were a thing in the 80's, and assuming that even if development of wholly new technologies stagnates, the existing tech would presumably see refinement and expansion, so I imagine home computers in this world would be able to handle a lot of the things ours do, just in different ways and maybe not to the same extentalso we're going to need a new thread here soon
>>68384221Given that this aesthetic often comes with a capability beyond that of which the tech of the time was physically capable of, I'd imagine you'd see a bunch of graphical but "static" websites. Think old Angelfire or Tripod pages.
>>68384221>>68384278>>68384018I'd say a pretty good compromise is simply something akin to a BBS-FTP type hybrid interface that downloads the video rather than streams it with a thumbnail that pops out pre-selection.
>>68383508>exclusive production rights.Clearly you have a keen grasp of technological superiority
>>68357786Brecht spent a shitload of one-on-one time with noted Marxist Karl Korsch and was at one point awarded the International Stalin Prize. Your pattern recognition is rarted if you think he was any color but red
>>68375135Shit's far apart, bruh, and the solar system (and other solar systems) have varying conditions of radiation, electromagnetism, and so forth. Hard connections between faraday-caged pieces of technology will work in almost all conditions.
>>68380513I wouldn't know.