>>68322089 Previous thread.Post CF art, talk CF settings, refine CF aesthetics.Question for this thread: What would be typical CF villains?
>>68385795Is there anything better than the low-slung boxes for cars that pop up in sci-fi?
>>68385450>What would be typical CF villains?Depends. They can be anything from aliens to the USSR (in space).
>>68385450Filthy hippies and treehuggers.
>>68385450>What would be typical CF villains?Corporate bossesSecret services and militarySoviet secret services and militaryIndividual villains with some kind of plans to change the world, possibly mistakenly well-intentioned (often these are philanthropists, scientists, or something like that)Satanists and other evil New Age occult societiesRebel AI
>>68385998>Satanists and other evil New Age occult societiesThis intrigues me as it fits the "era" but I haven't seen it enough to immediately be able to imagine it.
>>68386155The satanist kiddie-diddler ritual hysteria ran through the entire decade, but barely anybody remembers it now. The same with spiritism, it was everywhere in the "gaslight fantasy" period, yet it's almost never present in works dealing with the period.It was psychoanalyzed into a "moral panic" by progressive cunts, but imho it was a backlash against the sexual liberation movent of the 70s that upheld the sexualization of children as "innocent self-actualization" only made bad by "fearful close-minded repressive bigots".>>68385998You forgot teleevangelists.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb5BUuDp8Uw
>>68387272The sexual revolution has little relation to this; it was a (exaggerated) reaction to the emergence of cults, such as the Manson family.
>>68385878>USSR (in space)>>68387272>teleevangelistsI'd rather have them as a hi-fi version of the fallen churchman archetype.
>>68387459You are either a lobotomized drone repeating what it's told, or have never heard about the Pedophile Information Exchange and its ilk in the "progressive" movement.https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/past-pedophile-links-haunt-german-green-party-a-899544.htmlhttps://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/documents-reveal-links-between-german-fdp-and-pedophilia-activists-a-920092.htmlhttps://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/gay-activists-in-germany-silent-on-alliance-with-pedophiles-in-1980s-a-919119.html
>>68387483>4 .50cal machine guns in spacewhat's it supposed to do with those?
>>68387630Poke holes in other space capsules. As a reminder the USSR is the only nation that's been confirmed to have launched an armed space craft.
>>68385944Cringe and corpocrat-pilled.
>>68387698it would perhaps be effective, if you would hit anything
>>68387554What does this have to do with the fear of satanism in America? Could the fear of Satanism in America be more connected with satanism in America? And as for the left's penchant for pedophilia, I remind you that we are on 4chan, which is considered almost a stronghold of the rightists, and at least for a long time it was very tolerant of such things. The picture with Pedobear seems to be still used in case of 404 error.
>>68385450Internet Service Providers
>>68387272>>68387554>>68388371>What does this have to do with the fear of satanism in America?What does Satanism in America have to do with a thread about Cassette Futurism?
>>68383749Why is Soundcloud a Roomba?
>>68388824>Why is Soundcloud a Roomba?If you're just pointing out the visual similarity, that's funny.If you are pretending to not know what it is supposed to be, that's funnier.If you honestly don't know what it is, that's very funny and very sad.
>>68388926>If you're just pointing out the visual similarity,This. I get that it's a walkman.
>>68388371Loli isn't real, nigger.
>>68388543>What does Satanism in America have to do with a thread about Cassette Futurism?It's a good source for villainy when applying the aesthetic to your traditional games. >>68387272>The satanist kiddie-diddler ritual hysteria ran through the entire decade, but barely anybody remembers it nowI remember it.When I was old enough to think back and look into it, it was literally nothing.But making satanists and cults for CF villains could really work thematically.
>>68388956Cool.I'm still dreading the day I have to point out to someone that Curly isn't doing Zoidberg's whooping.
>>68389098He is tho
>>68387630>what's it supposed to do with those?Machine guns are TERRIFYINGLY effective in space. The only problem is heat removal.
>>68385450>>68388371>I remind you that a shitty anime forum overrun by both skinheads and pedos means the sexual liberation movement's insanity is not linked to the sexual liberation movement You did not read the linked articles. You might not even be able to read more than headlines.Now go back to R e d d i t, and never come back.>>68388543>What does a cultural trend that ran through the given era is relevant to the given era.You, too.>>68387698The gun on the Almaz 2 almost shook the space station apart with its vibrations during the test. Even muscle retention workout, when the movements are too regular, can create potentially dangerous resonance in spacecraft, let alone machine guns.
>>68388543look up carpenter brut. you'll see.
>>68390404What does Carpenter Brut, a French synthwave artist, have to do with a thread about Cassette Futurism? And if you're going to point to the usage of occult and Satanic imagery in his music, then we've stopped talking about the thread topic entirely.
>>68390621Synthwave has everything to do with cassette futurism AFAIK since synthwave basicly kickstarted the whole "new stuff aping 80's" shtick. and synthwave fits pretty well with metal-y satanic themes as carpenter brut shows.
>>68389490>>68387554So what does this have to do with satanism?
>>68385998>Secret services and military>Occult societiesOh boy.>>68390765>>68390621>>68388543>>68388371Samefag troll.
>>68391360>Samefag troll.In your dreams, maybe.
Somethings nice to look at : https://youtube.com/watch?v=e9DfSCk-6KoAlso, check out the movie 'Dark Star's.
>>68390765It gives you an avenue of why Satanism is present in your CF game. I'm not going to debate the merits of what the other anon posted, but the Satanic Panic of the 80s has a lot of disparate roots in the 60s and 70s from all sides of the political spectrum.
>>68392705The title is Dark Star.
>>68385450What IS Cassette Futurism, exactly?
>>68395430It's 70s and 80s futurism, loosely speaking.
>>68395430Retrofuturism based on roughly the last 30 years of the 20th century technological design aesthetics and hardware.
>>68388543Techno-satsnists are an underutilized antagonist in most settings, and it could be done well with a cassette future or retro future type setting>underground hacker/phreaker groups that do blood rituals and have crazy orgies>create malicious AI daemons that are actually satanic>distribute subliminal video games and movies to tempt children into joining their cults or be lured in as sacrificesImagine Doom with the aesthetic of Alien
>>68395732I would say no to the "punk" reference. The "punk" in "cyberpunk" was an ideology and an aesthetic about being rebellious. Cassette Futurism was more of the idealized version of what a cohesive populous could produce. Quite the opposite of "punk" in that regard.
>>68395731>Imagine Doom with the aesthetic of AlienSo, Doom?
Does anyone have any soviet stuff?
>>68395795>idealized versionThisn't necessarily idealistic (typical examples are Alien and Blade Runner), but yes, -punk implies a certain ideology and just overused, CF sound more sounds more neutral and universal.
>>68395795>>68395732Cassette Futurism is an aesthetic, not a genre. Attaching the -punk suffix is missing the point hard.>>68395800Doom 1 and 2 are so graphically limited as to preclude useful aesthetics, Doom 3 is straight up industrial, and NuDoom is all touchscreens.
>>68390412What's the chance he was high on cocoaine in this picture
>>68395825-> >>68386032 >>68389950 >>68387483
>>68395938>>68395795I mean, Modempunk, the game.dangit teej, forgetting your own history.https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Modempunkbut yeah, that comes up a little too far back in the eighties.
>>68395981I am aware of the game, it's just that these kinds of threads inevitably draw in mouthbreathers who insist that sci-fi settings must be label as some kind of "-punk" even when there are already existing names. The game itself is fine for this aesthetic.
>>68396228Goddamn do I want some bleak horror film with that kind of look.
>>68396254These glass buildings look sort of comfy
Let's make up some shit and see where it goes.>Humanity has discovered an alternate reality dubbed the Dive Realm.>A seemingly infinite expanse of "space" but knowing when and where to surface and bring you to distant places circumventing the limits of light speed travel>However, the act of Breaking the Surface had an unintended effect where parts of the Dive Realm now interfere with Real Space.>Such interference causes strange EM phenomenon that hinders advanced digital electronics requiring the use of hardened Analog equivalent tech in man instances as well as "weather" where the effect lessens and worsens regulaly.
>>68396397So... the warp from 40k with less demons?
>>68396367Yeah, but the red tint, the intruding industrial aspects underneath a veneer of residential and leisure areas, the building design that manages to evoke a lack of privacy and claustrophobia. Imagine a mix of New French Extreme with bitter, desolate post-Soviet Eastern European art house drama.
>>68396499In a way yes.>While the Dive Realm is seemingly infinite in depth and scope it is not without it's inhabitants.Strange humanoid beings "Swim" within the ether of the Dive Realm and their passing marks particular moments of severe EM phenomenon that plays havoc on a ship's equipment. Even the most hardened ships and their crews are weary of such interactions, especially when your guide is writhing in pain listening to these strange songs.
>>68396626Ok, so 40k warp with demons on everything is blue instead of red. Got it.
>>68396626maybe mix in some aspects of "The Fauna of Mirrors" into the concept(and/or maybe the Hypercrisis concept "The Dragon In The Mirror")
>>68396882I don't know what any of that is but it sounds cool.
>>68396397>>68396626Honestly my first thought was Limbo from Silverhawks and how it was basically space as written by people who didn't know how space actually worked.
>>68396954A lot of post-modernism is what it is. Though don't look to closely at Hypercrisis, it's largely intellectual posturing by comic fans.
I have always imagined the aesthetics of Void Engineers from WoD in the spirit of CF, with chaotic additions of more modern and futuristic equipment, and traces of numerous upgrades and repairs. Regardless of the operation principles, most of their ships were built many years ago.About the same for the Sons of Ether, but often with elements of a dieselpunk, more strange and a more artisanal appearance.
>>68396954>I don't know what any of that is but it sounds cool.allow me to elaborate
>>68397242>>68397247>>68397259>>68397265The results of Postmodernism and opioid abuse. Too much nihilism, too much anger, and too much detachment.
>>68397375>The results of Postmodernism and opioid abuse. Too much nihilism, too much anger, and too much detachment.sounds to me like a perfect fit for this kind of setting then as an antagonistic force, with only minor tweaks it's the kind of thing that you could see in some of the more high concept Horror movies of the period Cassette Futurism takes influence from
>>68397242>2>>68397247>>68397259>>68397265So we make an extra dimensional space that is vital to intersteller economy but also causes insanity by reflecting the madness, anger, horror, and nihilishm in humanity?
>>68397375Nah, Hypercrisis is simply the end result of a lot of references and callbacks in a long-running shared universe like the DCU being filtered through a bunch of fans who strive to create tangled webs of connections between works regardless of how said works are actually connected, or even if they are beyond the writer using callbacks and references. Or, to be much less charitably, Grant Morrison steals metaconcepts from Mark Waid and Warren Ellis and pretends they're his own creation to an audience of fanboys who have never heard of Borges.
Someone posted this last thread. Was this a real concept or are they just yanking me?
>>68398098Myasishchev M-19, it's a real concept for a horizontally launched aerospace craft from 1974.
>>68398098It was part of a string of soviet tech and concepts that the poster thought fit the aesthetic.
>>68397614>So we make an extra dimensional space that is vital to intersteller economy but also causes insanity by reflecting the madness, anger, horror, and nihilishm in humanity?pretty much, could probably find a couple movies that have similar concepts like Videodrome or Prince of Darkness to add to the concept
>>68396397this feels conceptually close to Hyperspace/Quasispace in Star Control.
>>68397247Whoever created this image needs to be dragged out into the street and shot.On top of the atrocities of design and layout committed, they're trying to reveal "deep truths" about Batman villains and yet are unable to recognize an effigy of Commissioner Gordon.
>>68395825How difficult would it be to take old PCs like these, gut them, and put modern parts inside?
>>68400407I'll admit I'm not too knowledgeable about restoration BUT there's enough info on these friendos you'd probably be able to find something.I think the best would be just getting some of the software that lets you fool it into connecting to wifi and upgrading shit.Modern hardware might not gel well with the screen and format but I'm not a pro.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h8NJrYI53Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3SezAueIPohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EExhdqfKPMwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bhvfa3zRaGs
>>68400407Extremely easy, conditionally. I say conditionally because there are a few considerations. Physical mounting space and air circulation.Much of this old hardware is large enough and vented enough that even an amature, casual hobbyist with a soldering iron can do it. It'll be time consuming the first couple of times and you'll have to do some reading but you don't need any prior experience to start out.
>>68395325You are of course right, and I'm a phoneposting faggot.
>>68400407Not difficult at all, though you'll probably need to do a little modification to get everything to fit. It's pretty common to use old cases for new builds for aesthetic purposes, though the older the case the more modification you're going to need due to differing standards. If you're talking about trying to get maximum performance out of old machines by the addition of modern parts then you're going to be hard limited by the capabilities of their processors and chips.
Reminder that elements of this aesthetic are not banished from the modern world, merely left to cling outside the mainstream where function trumps form.
>>68406942Yep, in fact, modern high-tech things designed for a niche highly specialized market, where the appearance is more determined by practicality, such as scientific equipment, aircraft cockpits and the like usually have a similar aesthetic.
>>68387483Holy shit, anon. I made that years ago! Can't believe it resurfaced.
>>68385450Does anyone over the age of 18 actually like this? It seems like gen Z is big on worshipping the 80's for some reason
>>68410391It’s definitely relevant for Shadowrun settings and similar.But yeah, there’s plenty of millennials that like retro aesthetics.
>>68410391I'm 44 and I like this a lot. It's a nostalgia thing for me. I actually lived when some of these things were in my house and I used them. When I was young, I was really into scifi and this is how I envisioned the future.
>>68410391>Does anyone over the age of 18 actually like this? It seems like gen Z is big on worshipping the 80's for some reasonI like it because it's optimistic, practical and heroic at the same time.
>>68410391>Does anyone over the age of 18 actually like this?I am 31 and I do.
>>68410391I'm 41 and I really love most of it.
>>68410391I'm 23 (gen Y, but born in the cut-off year before gen Z).
>>68410391I’m 21 (not much different from 18) and I enjoy it. We had a lot of late 80’s early 90’s crap in my house growing up, so I have a fondness for it.
I just came to the conclusion that so long as 4chan(nels) and /tg/ continue to exist I'll come back here and shit post well into old age.I don't know how I feel about that.
The newest season of Archer seems heavily inspired by this
>>68387483>>68387606>>68387630Machine guns are very slow firing (by comparison) but if you're already moving at 7-8km/s....
>>68391360Goddamn I didnt realize the satan-I mean ATF had Abrams tanks at Waco.>>68390733>>68390621>>68389490>>68389054>80's?>Satanists?>US Government?>Micheal Aquino?>Temple of Set?
>>68395949If I remember that was a non-fuctional concept piece.
>>68414230of course haha, totally measured response haha, they had illegal machine guns trust us haha
>>68414230Want to see me totally loose it in person? Tell me that the ATF was right at Waco and Ruby ridge.
>>68413983Go back and look at season 1.I don't have the image handy, but I posted an Archer background in the first of these threads
>>68413983Archer is set in an ambiguously Cold War era and tends to joke that ISIS' tech is out of date.
>>68414394Ruby Ridge was so fucked it makes Waco look like clockwork.So... Are we considering the ATF as villains for a CF setting or just posting off topic?
Currently running a NotOutlawStar setting with this very aesthetic. Any images of cellphones with this aesthetic? PCs use them often to share info between them and recently one of them made a makeshift motion tracker like the one in Alien with a cellphone and some computer parts.
>>68387630Destroy other spacecraft? This doesn't seem like a question someone would need to ask.
>>68414535Absolutely villains.They have all the hallmarks of great villains; power, causing harm, lack of accountability, instill fear in the players, and self righteousness. If you can think of something better, let me hear your theory.
>>68414535Feds are always antagonistic in these sort of settings; at best they're well meaning but bumbling and missinformed thus making the situation worse; at worst, they're actively gunning for you.
>>68414394the ATF did everything wrong at Ruby Ridge, you know why?cuz Randy Weaver was a retard for taking the bait from that undercover ATF agent to make illegal shit, and he was the only member of his family to deserve a bullet Waco? that whole cult was a pack of kiddie-diddling nutcases who also deserved a few bullets, but the kids did nothing wrong, and the ATF was retarded in making a tactical assault on them, but who the fuck would have ever expected tear gas to set off a fire?You ask me, someone in Mount Carmel wanted to turn those freaks into martyrs, and somewhat succeeded
>>68415291I will never argue that David Karesh was a good guy. The ATF took the opportunity to turn a quiet arrest into a full scale war that cost a lot of lives. They knew that tear gas is flammable and they knew that they used open flame for cooking and they threw flashbangs into the same rooms where they were putting CS gas. It was against their own SOP for the reason it starts fires and endangered lives. Lon Horiuchi put a 170 grain .30 bullet through a baby at 80 yards. He damn well knew what he was shooting. The judge that went through the case said that the ATF didn't have probable cause for an arrest.
>>68414665Don't forget the maximum combination of dangerous and incompetent, which extends into their investigatory and law enforcement purview.
>>68415502>He damn well knew what he was shooting.Are you arguing that it was his intent to shoot the baby? Because that seems unlikely.
>>6841039146 years old, and i like it because nostalgia, too. This is the future i was promised as a child, when everything was bright and new and full of promise. Now that i am old, and i didnt get anything of this, i look back to the past, maybe not because the future i wanted, but looking for the feeling i had when i saw it for the first time and i thought "yes, the future will look that way, this is realistic".
>>68416389At least I don't have to worry about helicopter motorcycle gangs breaking into my house's computer room to steal my computer passwords.
>>68416608I know that picture
>>68416309It's really hard to see it any other way when you know about how snipers work, the layout of the shoot, and the fact that it was dead quiet when it happened. The only other explanation is that he broke every safety rule he was ever taught, violated FBI sniper protocol, and accidentally fired. Suggesting that to the snipers I know makes them spit coffee or glare at me. As one man told me "the number of fuck-up necessary for him to have accidentally fired makes him negligent at the level of needing the death penalty."Given how hard the justice department worked to make sure that we would never have access to anything to prove it one way or the other is telling too. That investigation should be subject to FOI request but it doesn't even exist.
>>68416663I had this book
>>68416712>It's really hard to see it any other way when you know about how snipers workYeah, no. Where was the baby? In crib or being carried?
>>68417744The wife was standing on the front porch holding the baby. At 80yds with a 10x scope, Lon knew exactly what the bullet was going into.
>>68417744>>68417780Oh, and to follow up. A federal judge and a jury agreed as well when they awarded him a fortune. The Judge's opinion was absolutely scathing.
>>68417780>>68417801>>68416712The truth is the whole thing was just to kill that baby, for you see, it was the anti-christ and born to bring about the end of times. But now its dead and the world is saved.
>>68417780So, you're saying that it's far more likely that, instead of Lon having a solid shot of something in his line of fire he unwisely took it just she unexpectedly moved into the path, an FBI agent decided that this was the best moment to scratch that baby-killing itch he'd been harboring because he figured there's no way anyone would notice? Or what?
>>68417848Lon the Savior
>>68417801Well yeah, you don't fuck up and kill a baby and not get shafted.I'm just saying that "Oooh! Imma gonna keel dat baby!" seems like an unlikely internal dialogue for an FBI sniper. And *if* he had really, really wanted to shoot a baby, he could have done it at a time and place with less scrutiny.
>>68417884>Lon having a solid shot of something in his line of fireThere wasn't anything else that would have been the target>she unexpectedly moved into the pathBy all accounts, she was standing still.
>>68417941No one knows what happened to Lon after the incident. He fell off the radar. There is some discussion that a rumor was leaked that he was working in the Oklahoma field office that was in the Oklahoma Federal Building that was bombed. Who knows.I do know that Randy Weaver had friends in the SF community that would have happily killed Lon if he ever surfaced. It never hit the news so it's unlikely that happened.
>>68418260>There wasn't anything else that would have been the target>There wasn't anything else that could have been mistaken for a target>she and the baby were known at the time by all agents present to be 100% alone and unaccompanied>she couldn't have been the target>bullets only ever hit their intended targetsGonna need some citations there.>>68418329Really married to the "Imma gonna kill a baby!" idea, aren't you?I mean, yeah, he shot a baby when he didn't need to fire a shot at all. He's hated. Fuck him.To insist that his intention was infanticide, is just implausible.Why shoot that baby right then? If it was a crazy firefight, he could lie and claim it was a mistake. But to just pick off a baby on a porch, because he wanted to kill a baby, in the middle of all that? Why?Does he not like Mondays?
>>68418556You really want my theory? They were going to bury all of them. It was a total kill mission and Lon was in on it. How he fucked up is he shot his target too soon. Too much that's absolutely provable is way fucked up.Randy Weaver was showing up to court as directed. The ATF kept moving the dates and they didn't inform him of many of the dates they changed. His lawyer had to keep making calls every day. One of the dates they had moved he missed and within 2 hours of him being late, a tactical team showed up and started shooting at his kid and brother in law.>Why shoot that baby right then? If it was a crazy firefight, he could lie and claim it was a mistake. But to just pick off a baby on a porch, because he wanted to kill a baby, in the middle of all that? Why?>Does he not like Mondays?He killed the wife too with the same shot. You're asking the right question. Why? There has never been a satisfactory answer. Follow that up with a few more. Why wasn't Lon Horiuchi charged with anything? Why were all the records for the incident destroyed? Why did they go in guns blazing when Randy Weaver never showed any sign of violence or non compliance? Why open fire on everyone they saw as soon as they saw them without even announcing they were law enforcement?>she couldn't have been the targetI didn't say that. I make a big deal out of the baby because the bullet went right through the center of the baby but it killed her too. Why shoot an unarmed woman?
>>68418866Gotta kill that baby... Can't leave any witnesses...Dead babies are the linchpin of any good plan...No dude.Not denying shady shit may have been afoot, but just no.
>>68418923The fact is a pregnant woman and the baby she was holding just standing on her porch were killed by a sniper at 80 yard in what was described by all account a moment of calm. There was no indication she was aware of being observed. There was no indication that she knew there were federal officers on the property. She was waiting for her husband to bring back her son and her brother that were out on the property somewhere after they hear some shots fired. It wasn't until after this That Randy was aware that there was federal officers on the property because he hadn't found his son before his wife and baby were killed.I get it, this all seems like a bad B movie from the 80s. The more I have looked into this the less it makes sense to me.
>>68418983This post >>68415502 made it seem like you were talking about Waco.I hope, for the love of Moot, that you can acknowledge that deciding to shoot a baby at Waco, which is what I initially thought you were talking about, would be even more insane than at Ruby Ridge.As best that I can recall, Ruby Ridge was a clusterfuck that, once started, the FBI could only come out shining if the witnesses died and they controlled the narrative. But even *that* wouldn't require dead babies.>The more I have looked into this the less it makes sense to me."If you find that you are confused, it means that you believe something that is not true."No, seriously. That's literally always the case. Also, there are accounts that differ from yours:"After his first shot hit and wounded Randy Weaver, Horiuchi fired a second shot at Kevin Harris, who was armed, some 20 seconds later as Harris was running into the Weaver home. The bullet fired at Harris struck and killed Vicki Weaver through the doorway just beyond Harris, who was entering the home. Weaver was holding her 10-month-old child behind the door through which Harris was attempting to enter; the round also struck and wounded Harris."This is the kind of stupidity that I can believe.Let's talk about Cassette Futurism now.
>>68419605>Let's talk about Cassette Futurism now.Yes, lets.
>>68414472>>68414434I know, but the newest season starts on an ALIEN spaceship.
>>68419605>"If you find that you are confused, it means that you believe something that is not true."It's not like the FBI and Justice Department were found to have committed gross misconduct during the siege and to have fabricated evidence then followed that with an attempted cover up by destroy evidence against them.
>>68406942This is true. I work for theater crews for big events. All the sound systems are pure aesthetic.
>>68400407Depends on what you want to fit inside. A Raspberry Pi 3 or 4 will always fit, and is fast enough for light office work.Form factors for motherboards, power, graphics and other cards, and their orientation in the enclosure have changed several times.A modern medium or top range CPU and graphics card will need BETTER cooling and ventilation than a PC of yore, where the only fan may have been in the power module.
>>68416389>and i didnt get anything of thisWe got some of it. It just because even smaller and smoother, and the world was still rough. Look at late 90s MP3 players and aesthetics, it's an outgrowth of the 70s/80s. The only big change is they didn't realize computers would so quickly become so small and ubiquitous. Honestly the only thing that fucked us is Apple went for the swooping, seamless white case aesthetic.
>>68419605>"If you find that you are confused, it means that you believe something that is not true."Who are you quoting?
>>68424204I can't actually remember. I'm usually better at remembering wisdom than sources of wisdom.I used quotes because I didn't want to seem like I was talking from my ass or specifically about anon.Whoever said it was intelligent and I respected their view. I remember reading them saying that whenever they encounter a situation where they become confused, they say to themselves "I find that I am confused." as a sort of mental prompt to consider what beliefs that they have about the situation are true or not, because something they believe to be true, isn't.I find that going through such beliefs can help me discover the source of the confusion.If you believe: >You set your keys on a hook>You did not remove them from the hook>Nobody else has been near the hook>The keys are not now on the hook>The keys cannot move from the hook without being moved by someoneThen something you believe is true is not true.
>>68385450This game is dead as fuck, but seems relevant.https://techcompliant.itch.io/tc>>68425668Might be Scott Adams?
>>68425919>Scott AdamsCertainly could be.
>>68415291How does it feel to be the bad guy?
>>68422326Yeah, if apple has stuck with the dayglo transparent bubble concept they could at least be relegated to the non-dominant tech aesthetic.
>>68425668Except in this case we aren't dealing with some form of absolute binary, we're dealing with a Justice Department that violated constitutional rights, fabricated evidence, operated a ROE counter to standard law enforcement practice, and intentionally tried to cover up their actions or fabricate justifications for it. Anon is confused because the Justice Department was actively attempting to mislead people.
>>68416663This is not so very different from the present day truthDo we live in the future?
>>68428725>Do we live in the future? "That sounds like something out of science fiction.""We live in a spaceship, dear.""Yeah, so?">>68428182>Except in this case we aren't dealing with some form of absolute binaryIrrelevant.>Anon is confused because the Justice Department was actively attempting to mislead people....and because anon believes something to be true that isn't true, probably having to do with the Justice Department if what you posted is correct.Are you missing the point deliberately?
>>68410391I'm 36 and I like a lot of the looks of old tech
>>68395825>soviet stuffPic related is technically a ground effect vehicle, not a true aircraft. I love these things.
>>68398098I don't know that pic, but I know the Soviets tried to copy the space shuttle, thinking there just must be something to it if we were doing it. They eventually decided it was a terrible idea economically after all, and shelved it.
>>68435623Also available in rocket tube model.
>>68395508>>68395610So Cassettepunk but you guys are trying to dodge the punk naming?
>>68437142>CassettepunkWhere do people use this term? I don't see it,
>>68437142Cassettepunk isn't a thing.
>>68437142Cyberpunk is a genre.Cassette Futurism is an aesthetic.The use of the "-punk" suffix either has genre defining connotation or it's as meaningless as "-thing".An aesthetic isn't "-punk".Savvy?
>>68435725The funny thing is, their shuttle, the Buran, was better. It had additional jet engines for powered landings instead of relying on glide and was automated enough that it could fly itself. The US space shuttle was bogged down in retarded requirements thought up by committee.
>>68435725They shelved the Buran program because the Soviet Union collapsed. There are 3 other partially complete orbiters, the Ptichka is apparently 95% complete, still in existence.>>68439065It also helps that the Buran program had the benefit of going second and access to all of the unclassified Space Shuttle data.
Slightly off topic, but I think it's sensible enough (and wouldn't burn a thread) but is there a good collection of 80s tech available? I'm about to run a one shot set in the 80s and besides the generic crap (walkmans, old computers, vhs, 8track, etc) I have a very limited knowledge. Especially weaponry. Apologies in advance.
>>68446490There's a very infrequent general on /g/ for this.It's actually up right now if you want to ask there >>>/g/72793415
>>68446591It's not infrequent that thread goes up all the time. It's normally called retro instead of vintage is what's confusing you probably.
>>68446490If you're looking for weaponry ask /k/. There is the occasional cyberpunk weapon thread, but you should be able to get a very good thread just asking for real world weaponry from the 70s-90s.
>>68446490there where some guns posted last thread
Super Scope Six!
>>68449700God I love those blocky accessories.
>>68439445>>68435725>muh copyRetarded boomers.The Soviet spaceplane program existed before the STS was announced. Look up the BOR planes.And the reason theirs ended up better is because the project was not pingponged between departments for a decade.
Archived this and the previous thread
I have no experience with Paranoia outside of reading stories on /tg/, but it seems like CF could be used to flesh out a modified setting to run it.
Anyone got any good Corporate Space Stations