Let us rejoice at the return of Titus by making a Chapter.>Why Was The Chapter Founded? (d10)
Rolled 1 (1d10)>>82523659
>>82523769> Strategic Prognostication - "Our tarot cards say there's going to be a threat here, maybe. Found a Chapter!"d10 for when the chapter was founded
Rolled 62 (1d100)>>82524450New fagging like a pro
>>82524457the chapter was found in M38; 23rd ("Sentinel") Founding
>>82524464Unfortunate thread timing, night owl bro.
>>82524464d100 for their Chapter Progenitor
Rolled 62 (1d100)>>82525851
>>82525871they are Dark Angels successors, founded in a period were many chapters turned renegade, maybe the space mareen tarot was right this time around,
d10 for their purity
Rolled 10 (1d10)>>82526032
>>82526078their gene-seed is flawed, roll a d10 for their flaw
Rolled 6 (1d10)>>82526111
>>82526022I thought 62 would make them Blood Angels
>>82526125>Lost zygote - Something's gone. One of the silly EMPRAH-BLESSED things like the Betcher's Gland or Melanchromic Organ, not something critical like the Black Carapaced100 to see what zygote they lost
Rolled 8 (1d100)>>82526204
>>82526211>The Catalepsean Node: This allows the Astartes to consciously "switch off" sections of the brain sequentially, while remaining awake and alert.So these marines need to actually sleep. If one exists, what is the Chapter's Flaw? (d10)
Rolled 1 (1d10)>>82526240
>>82526244>We Stand Alone - The Chapter is either distrusted for some reason, or shuns contact with others.d100 for figure of legend
>>82526142oh it does, sorry anons, it's 2 am and my brain is not working very good
Rolled 2 (1d100)>>82526256>>82526281It's all good dude
Rolled 27 (1d100)>>82526256
>>82526299this chapter's legend is their chapter master >>82526289>A Battle-Brother seconded from a previous generation Successor or even the First Founding Legion that provided the new Chapter’s gene-seed.
Blood Angels successors who need to sleep and are distrustedso... Vampires?
>>82526317this is getting good
>>82526289>A Battle-Brother seconded from a previous generation Successor or even the First Founding Legion that provided the new Chapter’s gene-seed.Roll again on this table to determine what type of warrior he was, rerolling if you get this result again.>>82526299>Chapter MasterSo a Chapter Master of a Blood Angels successor chapter did something and gave his geneseed to make this chapter.d100 for what his deed of legend was.
we skipped the Chapter Demeanour (d10)
Rolled 95 (1d100)>>82526323Hope I roll a good one
Rolled 1 (1d10)>>82526332
>>82526334>The hero led his Chapter in many glorious campaigns, slaying hundreds of the enemy’s greatest champions.In the end, he was brought down by the Chapter's enemies, and is a reminder to all Battle Brothers of their holy duty.>>82526337>Swift As The Wind - Going slowly and thinking things out?
>>82526334>The hero led his Chapter in many glorious campaigns, slaying hundreds of the enemy’s greatest champions.In the end, he was brought down by the Chapter's enemies, and is a reminder to all Battle Brothers of their holy duty.>>82526337>Swift As The Wind - Going slowly and thinking things out?Rip and tear until is done d100 for Chapter Homeworld
>>82526341they even copypaste swiftly
Rolled 70 (1d100)>>82526351
>>82526356by the emprha they are space vampires that live in a feudal world this could not get any better
>>82526356>Feudal World So we obviously have to name the planet after Transylvaniad100 for the planet's terrain
Rolled 55 (1d100)>>82526364>space vampires that live in a feudal worldI like where this is going.>>82526371
>>82526375>Ice (water or otherwise)d10 for the rule of the homeworld
Rolled 9 (1d10)>>82526383
Rolled 3 (1d10)>>82526383
>>82526386>Distant rule - "You see that castle up there? It's inhabited by the mighty sky-warriors of Emp-rar. Sometimes they come and steal our children."perfect
>>82526393>Sometimes they come and steal our children.
>>82526389>Distant rule - "You see that castle up there? It's inhabited by the mighty sky-warriors of Emp-rar. Sometimes they come and steal our children."d10 to see how much they adhere to the Codex Astartes
Rolled 6 (1d10)>>82526397
Rolled 4 (1d10)>>82526397
>>82526395and they shall suck their blood
>>82526404Nice roll, anon.
>>82526393>>82526395>The locals have tell horror stories to their kids about their greatest protectors will drag entire families from their homes in exchange for protecting them against the Emperor's enemies>The kids get turned into them >No one knows what happens to the rest
>>82526399they are divergent
now a d10 for their combat doctrine
Rolled 2 (1d10)>>82526430
>>82526399>Divergent(progenitor) or Divergent chapterI'm not 100% sure if Blood Angels are codex compliant if I'm being honest. >>82526403Combat Doctrine>Stealthd100 for chapter training
Rolled 62 (1d100)>>82526438
>>82526438>stealthy degenerate vampiresRNGesus blesses this thread.
>>82526452>Shatter the Foe: This chapter considers the best way to combat the enemy to be fast, powerful strikes which demoralize enemies and inspire allies.d100 for their unique equipment
Rolled 40 (1d100)>>82526471
Rolled 36 (1d100)>>82526471
>>82526471basically terror tactics? this thread is blessed
>>82526477Bestial Companion: they are accompanied by giant bat like mammals native to the icy caves of Transylvania
>>82526475>Bestial Companion: More common among those Chapters whose origins come from Feral Worlds, this Chapter prides itself on raising hunting animals to assist in battle. Examples: Fenrisian Wolf, hunting birds.And for their beliefs>>82526477>Revere the Primarch - "Our Spiritual Liege is better than yours!"Praise Sanguinius d10 for Chapter Strength
Rolled 4 (1d10)>>82526502
>>82526502Varghulf would be cool
>>82526518>Under Strength: The Chapter is recovering from a defeat or accident that occurred several decades ago, or has recently suffered heavy, but not irrecoverable losses. It is probably at a minimum of half strength, and should return to nominal strength within a decade.d100 for the Chapter's allies
Rolled 92 (1d100)>>82526538
>>82526542>Planetary Defence Force of a specific worldd100 for their enemies
Rolled 71 (1d100)>>82526547
>>82526550>A particular Daemon, Daemon Prince or Disciple of Chaosthese vampires have a problem with Mr. Satan
>>82526547>Planetary Defence Force"The Spawn"
>>82526555Khorne daemon, no doubt because they've been bogarting all the dankest blood
>>82526556the PDF is pic related
>>82523659I still maintain this should have always been a blood raven story.
>>82526571get outta heeya, magpie
any ideas for a name? It must have a very strong Dracula/vampire vibe
>>82526577Sons of the Dragon?
So overall summary>Chapter was founded for Strategic Prognostication>It was founded in the M38, Sentinel Founding >They are successors of Blood ANgels>Their Geneseed is flawed>They have lost their Catalepsean Node>Their Chapter Demeanor is Swift as the Wind>Their Chapter Flaw is We Stand Alone>The figure of legend was a Chapter Master of another successor chapter who's geneseed would be used for them>The Chapter Master led his people through many glorious campaigns, slaying hundreds of the enemies' greatest champions. In the end, he was brought down by the Chapter's enemies and is a reminder to all Battle-Borthers of their holy duty.>The chapter's homeworld is a Feudal Ice planet>They maintain a distant rule of the planet >They are a divergent chapter >Their combat doctrine is stealth >Their training is Shatter the Foe>The chapter has beastial companions>They revere Sanguinius >The chapter is understrength>They are allied with a Planetary Defense Force>Their most hated enemy is a Daemon Prince and his followers
>>82526577The Spirit Drinkers
>>82526591Based and Wallachia-pilled.
>>82526593I vote for their pets to be vampire lizards
>>82526577The Crimson Kings.
>>82526577>Wings of the Emperor >Warriors of the Night>Hollowed Seraphs >Ebon Wings
>>82526616Lizards that can shoot blood out thier acid blood from thier eyes and have fangs
>>82526617maybe the crimson warriors? I'm liking the suggestions so far
>>82526629but vampires have bats
>>82526593So just tossing this out for an idea. Since the Chapter Master was another chapter, and the sentinel founding was based around other chapters falling to chaos or just getting decimated. What if the Chapter Master's chapter fell to chaos and what few loyalist brothers he had remaining did a repentant crusade. Skewering their enemies until there wasn't a single trace of traitorous scum was left. Since he cleared his honor, that's why he was used for the Chapter's geneseed.
>>82526593also, they refer to their chapter master as Voivode.
Personally i would prefer we not to go too heavy on the blood theme for the nameMakes them sound like Khorne worshippers
>>82526663There's a reason people are reluctant to trust them
>>82526648and then he got killed by a demon prince that is actually from his own fallen chapter? that could be a cool revenge story.
>>82526663The Space Bats
>>82526682Good company for the space wolves and space sharms
>>82526591I think we should go with sons of the dragon since it's a more or less subtle reference to Dracula himself, and not directly reveling the fact that they are shady vampires
>>82526702Plus it sounds badass. Thirded.
>>82526702I'm fine with that.
So for the beastial companion do you think they ride them like space wolves or do they utilize them for scouting?
now what's their colors? I was thinking a dark shade of purple and dark crimson for the details maybe some gold here and there.>>82526726since they are stealthy the bats would be more useful for scouting I guess
>>82526733I wanted to say black and dark crimson but that’d just be a death company
maybe like this
>>82526733came up with this based off your suggestion, I also put the Salamander symbol in their as a place holder since I think its fair to say the chapters symbol will be some sort of dragon
>>82526830you nailed it
>>82526830Objectively I think it's better than mine. I just like it when it's like 90% one color. But that's just me. Good job
Now for their chapter symbol, a simplification of pic related is a nice foundation I think.
>>82526616>>82526629>>82526797>>82526858I guess we're going with dragon/lizard theme.
>>82526858I would say the best method is to>change the tail so it isn't raping around the neck>remove teh cross due to its symbolism not being important for the Imperium when compared to Vlads times>also remove the circle>possibly give the dragon a meaner facealso anybody got some good Romanian names from Vlads time, somewhat in the mood for writefaggotry
>>82526862No, that's just their imagery, that's based on one of the aliases of Dracula: Son of th Dragon. Their actual theme is vampires.
>>82526870How about Vlad the Cum-inhaler
>>82526870like this?we could as well just steal something from the vampire counts
>>82526870oh fuck they are all smurfs >Roman heritage is reflected in Roman given names such as Traian (Trajan), Titus, Marius, Octavian, Ovidiu (Ovid), Aurel (Aurelius), Cornel (Cornelius) etc. Such names are common especially in Transylvania
>>82526907yeps thats perfect
>>82526914perhaps due to the chapter master regaining his honor by slaying a large portion of his fallen chapter the smurfs gave him a planet to recruit from
>>82526907Am hoping for Varghulfs or maybe a whole and living Varghulf
>>82526933Shit meant to change that second Varghulf
this was great gn anons
>>82526914>Why are these Ultramarine successors calling me horus?
>>82526256They shun contact to >>82526240 get more sleep
>>82527074>Grumpy vampire marines that just want to get some sleep>Every time they fight along side their cousins they want to have some of contest or comradery >Sons of the Dragon are just...tired
>>82527074>it can be said the Sons of the Dragon are like the fabled vampire of ancient Terran legends>they are avoid being active during the day unless necessarry>but when night comes they come in force>many enemies of man have learned the brutal lesson to never engage these sons of Sangiunius when night falls>like a swarm of bats they attack their enemies without mercy with the battlefield strewn with the impaled corpses of their foes
Should we roll up the PDF friends?
>>82527519maybe less of a roll and more just expanding on them and their relations to the Sons of the Dragon
>>82527537So what event made them befriend a lone PDF? These guys are reclusive on their own homeworld so what made them chill with these dudes? Are they apart of Transylvania's defense force? Were the Dragons called and they made excellent display of force? Are the defense shunned by their own planet/regiments so they're kindred spirits?
>>82523659>Let us rejoice at the return of Titus by making a Chapter.wait what
>>82527564since the planet is a medieval world we can say the variou voivods of the planet spend most of their manpower fighting each other with the pdf usually just being the few deemed worth for service for actually defending the planet, could probably be representative of some ancient helpers to vampires in various stories like a few other anons suggested before>>82527572yeah Space Marine 2 just got confirmed and even has a trailer with a bit of gameplay
>>82527572come home soldierhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_HljUo8Jjk
Rolled 52 (1d100)>>82527519i don't see why not.
>>82527759>PDF Recruitment Criteria: Lottery: Selection by the God-Emperor's grace, and a little luck. d10 for nature of recruitment or we can autopick standard conscription
Rolled 99 (1d100)>>82528086Rolling for homeworld
>>82528114> Pleasure World: Soft as clay before the firing of the kiln; war is their crucible. Likely sponsored by wealthy nobles using the planet.d100 for terrain
Rolled 8 (1d100)>>82528165
>>82528308> Desert: At home in sun, sand and windD100 for core units.
Rolled 65 (1d100)>>82528332
Hé hé hé
How i should make them? I got the box for 55 Buck in my local store, a relic from a more civiliced age
>>82529045Anon seems to be gone soMechanized Infantry, hopefully with air conditioningRoll 1d10 for Specialization
Rolled 3 (1d10)>>82529668
>>82529604You need to clean them off from the mold release agent, it will make life much better down the road. I recommend getting a cheap, large lunch plastic lunch box and dump the sprues there with acetone over night. Acetone cleaners are super cheap in hardware stores.
>>82529696Sorry about was a little busyStealth Warfare, no wonder we like the Sons of the DragonNow we need 1d10 for loyalty
Rolled 6 (1d10)>>82529898
>>82530127UndisciplinedWe're a rowdy bunch it seemsNeed a 1d100 fro Special Equipment
>>82529781Very funnyI make this Smashcaptain with different leftover and some part of the box.I put him on a whb chaos warrior shield to show the chapter hatred for chaos.He need a name, Quintus seems nice
Rolled 63 (1d100)>>82530177
>>82530719Augmented TroopsWe cyborgs boysNeed 1d100 for our creed
Rolled 53 (1d100)>>82530805
>>82530939FOR THE EMPEROR!We fight for the righteous mission of the Imperium Need 1d100 for our fame
Rolled 4 (1d100)>>82531053
>>82531110Obscure in Sub-Sector, very obscure in SectorNo one knew who we are except our friends the sons of the dragonShould we roll for other friends or just skip for our enemies?Either way its 1d100
Rolled 85 (1d100)>>82531326Oops, dropped the 1.
>>82531335Tau They can shove their greater up their own ass
>Pleasure World PDF>Got invaded by Tau to change their way of lifeSo in other words they had to fight for their right to party?
>>82531988Well theirs and others
>stealth cyborg mechanized infantry Looks like some of the children the sons of the dragon abduct are sent to this pleasure world to fend off the xenos that try to invade this sector while the vampires are busy dealing with their hated renegade chapter.Shall we roll for their Renegade Enemies? Since they fight a demon prince, it certainly belongs to a Chaos Warband.How did they start out? roll a d12
Rolled 3 (1d12)>>82532279Sure
>>82532332>isolated colony Unlike the Sons of the dragon these guys were not happy with their isolation
now a d100 for the Warband's Alignment and Blessings
Rolled 61 (1d100)>>82532357
>>82532279>Army of literal children are defending a a strategic amusement park planet against tau.This sounds like hell of training
>>82532373Slaanesh was hoping for khorne, but this can work. Now a d100 for the frequency of their blessings
Rolled 42 (1d100)>>82532405
>>82532451>Few only a lucky few or the most elite warriors of this band have managed to receive the attention of slaanesh.
>>82532498Now two d100 for their blressings
Rolled 77 (1d100)>>82532513
Rolled 13, 5 = 18 (2d100)>>82532498
>>82532551 unsound mind, whoever received this blessing will have their mind broken to the point that they become immunity to the warp. >>82532554Aesthetical Changes, the blessed have a visible mutation, in this case, probably lots of tentacles
>>82532601now a d100 for their base of operations
Rolled 26 (1d100)>>82532622
>>82532643Warp Storm, it seems like Transylvania is awfully close to a warp storm, were their treacherous arch enemy hides.
>>82532680Makes senseExplains the bats the Sons of the Dragon use
>>82526526Seconding this, way better than a literal bat.
now a d100 for their recruitment method
Rolled 66 (1d100)>>82532821
>>82532881perfect, they abduct their recruits from nearby planets and spacecrafts. In the Romanian sub sector, the Emperor's Angels and the Arch Enemy's pawns are two sides of the same child kidnapper coin
>>82532970now a d10 for their combat doctrine
Rolled 5 (1d10)>>82533034
>>82533095Lightning Strike, they do it the classic slaanesh way
>>82533110their legendary champion is a Demon Prince, of course, and their deed for the gods was to defeat a chapter master of a loyalist space marine chapter And last but not least a d100 for their warband build
Rolled 4 (1d100)>>82533145
>>82533237No Masters, Only Gods. They have no actual leadership, following their own individual disgusting desires to praise the God of excess.
>>82530697Squad Oleg ready to be primedI was sondering about how to paint them>>82526830Purple with red is pretty good but i think the marking will be better in black than in with. >>82526907The dragon is cool for a banner but in shoulder pad it will be very hard top paint.Perharps making something like the moussillon herald in whb but instead of the skull put a blood drop.Or making a Albanian like symbol but with dragon instead of a bird.
>>82533399So we got a name for the warband?
>>82533990Let's develop them a bit more.For a name I was thinking The Hellsingers, because Van helsing hunts vampires and Hellsingers sounds slaanesh as fuck
>>82533990None yetWe also need to know the look they have as a blessing
>>82533877be the first to create the sons of the dragon minis, brother.I'll try to make a better symbol on Gimp, and I think stealing something from the vampire counts is the way to go
>>82534095Hellsingers makes me think Noise MarinesWhich could work well against the Son's Bat companions
>>82526240>>82526256So the chapter warcry is what? "DONT DISTURB OUR SLUMBER!" or what? and they got assmad at other marines and imperials after someone interrupted their dreaming.Wait just thought of a better sleep themed battle cry,"THE EMPEROR HAS A DREAM"
>>82534198this is the chapter master, he also has a dream.
>>82534198Don't disturb our slumber is cool, but sounds more like something they would yell when attacked, not when *attacking* >>82534171exactly>>82534104 Lot's of tentacles >>82533877I made a quick new sketch based of the vampire rebels from total war warhammer, will make more soon, and yeah the details in black instead of red would look quite nice.
>>82534357>Lot's of tentaclesSeems kind of basic
>>82534357For attacking cry, could something like "Dragon, AWAKE!" With dragon in this case reffering to big E work or would it be too heretical to admit that the emperor is sleeping on terra? Being "open" about that would explain their diplomatic situation with other imperials.
>>82534453indeed, any suggestions? maybe something related to their voices since they are the HellSINGERS >>82534492>Dragons, Awake! sounds pretty badass imo
>>82526577Narcoleptic LGBTQ+ allies of the imperium?
>>82534198Maybe a sleeping beauty reference/prophetic foresight like sanguine-boy himself?>I know you, I’ve slain you in a dream!>once upon a dream, now you life shudders wide eyed, fleeing from reality!
>>82534564very funni, anon, very funni.>>82534626>once upon a dream, now you life shudders wide eyed, fleeing from reality!really poetic, nice.
There could definitely be some interesting warp related dream stuff for these sleepy marines.
Wonder how sturdy a bed you'd need to comfortably support napping marines.
>>82534678Why do you think they have a collection of ceramite coffins laying around their basement?>>82534653good idea I will try to do some writefaggotry for these guys because I really like how they have developed, we should also flesh out other stuff like the PDF, the system, the planets and the Hellsingers
>>82534678>>82534693>>82534719sensory deprivation tanks in the style of coffins>>82534507I was thinking Lamprey mouths before the Hellsingers name came up
>>82534767>Chaos marines with Lamprey mouthsthat's very terrifying, and awesome, we should go with that.
>>82534653If the chapter master is a psyker (or takes advice from his chief librarian) he could decide on where to send the chapter based on visions/dreams he has in his sleep. Can even be dreams of stuff that hasnt happened yet."I dreamt Orks will attack planet X on [I honestly really dont know how dates work in 40k beyond the Myear + that civil war over calenders], lets go there and prepare a welcome."Dream visions is the best source of advice and can never ever lead to bad stuff.
>>82534787Its a cool look
>Sons of sanguinius Prince Charming marines?Nice>Sons of the dragon sleepy vampire marines? Double Nice.
>>82534767I like the idea of sensory deprivation tanks. Especially for Marines that actually need to sleep properly, it's a good idea. Good sleep is incredibly important for maximum efficiency, and I can't imagine how comfy a tank must be to sleep in.
>>82534858>and I can't imagine how comfy a tank must be to sleep in.Especially tank full of BLUD
I want to homebrew a chapter that totally are not of loyalist Iron Warrior geneseed.'Iron'ically the Imperial Fists doctrines/abilities seem perfect for a loyalist Iron Warriors successor chapter. But lorewise I would like to know if there is a better option besides the Imperial Fists.
>>82534844perfect for slaanesh worshipers >>82534949shhhhh the inquisition can't hear about that My idea for their symbol is pic related, it's supposed to be the mouth of a lamprey fused with the slaanesh symbol. Their color scheme could be this Brownish Green to break the purple and pink cliché
>>82534990that's a neat idea, but the Romanian Sub-sector (place-holder name) already has a chapter.
>>82534990Lorewise Fists also fit because both chapters were about siege warfare and fortifying.
>>82532970>in the grim darkness of the far future, gypsies still exist
>>82536562And that's surprising how?
>>82535020>Slaanesh cult>not purpleSounds heretical so I’m for it
>>82536648you'd figure the inbreeding would have them sterilized by now.
Bless this thread.
>>82534801>>82534767I think we can combine the two Idea.BA psyker or even other chapter have that kind of dream. SW or WS going to Hunt for exemple.But since they are BA they Can go in to the black rage. So when they go to sleep it's more long than regular marine and are exausted after long day of battle. They will have to go into deep sleep to recover even if they're Astartes. They can dream ans have nightmare. Instead of regular nightmare, they can live the combat on the vengeful spirit putting themself in them black rage when they sleep. When they woke up they can tell the reality from the dream. They are merely impossible to calme down without being shot down.To prevent that they since have to respect a strict sleep shedule to avoid being overly exhausted. They also have to sleep in dreadnought sarcophagus so if they transend when they sleep they can't escaped the pod and are unleshed only in combat on deathcompagny dreadnought.The chapter deploy more dreadnought than usual chapter but they are mostly deathcompagny one. Their is a vault in chapter Fortress with every brother that wait to be awaken since the chapter have more sarcophagus than chasy dreadnought to take them into battle.Pic is the librarian that i kitbash
>>82541906that's a very interesting idea, one thing that really stroke me when I was thinking about them is that because of their many premonitions we can have a subtle nod to a possible nightlord strain in their Gene-seed (I think nightlords also have a foresight mutation, but I might be wrong) , because of that, it would be nice if their death company had a dark blue tone.also I think I should create a new thread for them since this one already hit 8 pages. I want to flesh out their world, the friendly PDF and other stuff
>>82541906i forgot to say that your models are great, can't wait to see them painted
>>82541906Cool model and good lore. All around good shit anon
Noticed that the PDF and Cult haven't got compiled into one so gonna do that>PDF Recruitment Criteria: Lottery: Selection by the God-Emperor's grace, and a little luck.>Standard Recruitment> Pleasure World: Soft as clay before the firing of the kiln; war is their crucible. Likely sponsored by wealthy nobles using the planet.> Desert: At home in sun, sand and wind>Core Units: Mechanized Infantry>Specialization: Stealth Warfare >Undisciplined>Augmented Troops>For the Emperor! >Obscure in Sub-Sector, very obscure in Sector>Enemy: Tau Heretics>Isolated Colony>Worship Slaanesh>Few: only a few or the most elite warriors of this band have managed to receive the attention of slaanesh>Unsound mind: whoever received this blessing will have their mind broken to the point that they become immune to the warp>Aesthetical Changes: the blessed have a visible mutation>Base of Operations: Warp Storm>Recruitment: Nearby planets and spacecraft >Combat Doctrine: Lightning Strike>Champion is a Daemon Prince who defeated a Chapter Master(progenitor of the Dragons) >No Masters, Only Gods: A vast tide of traitors belong to this Warband with no actual leadership heading the warband, instead it migrates across the stars in an anarchic horde.
>>82551541So any ideas what made the colony fall to Chaos?
>>82553178>https://twitter.com/ooccreature/status/1180645748473507840So how would they utilize armidallos, make shift throwing weapons? Their overgrown and used them bikes? Guard animals to their fortress monastery? I feel like bats are better but I'm open to the idea for armadillos
>>82553178That could work for a character but chapter wide just seems a little too much
>>82551541>HereticsAnyone else think we should give these guys an ottoman theme?
>>82551541any name or overall ideas for the PDF? I cannot come up with anything desu
>>82555827A stealthy drivers is a hard thing to come up with
>>82555827>>82557331Okay I had an idea: Blitzkrieg. Why? blitzrkiegs were surprise and fast tank assaults with air force support, I'm aware that the idea of blitzkrieg is basically propaganda, but the concept fits the idea of a mechanized infantry that utilizes stealth with tanks, the air force part could be used as cyber troops (militarum tempestus) that jump from Valkyries or something. Symbol could be a thunder inside a circle.
>>82560339Jesus Christ how horrifying
>>82523659>Return of TitusYou know the game is being written by literal trannies right? Its gonna be trash
>>82557505So Planet Name Blitzkriegers for the name?
>>82560880Literally one and not even the head writer at that
>>82560339but these ones don't fly...
>>82560949For their name? Maybe we should call the planet Blitz, and the PDF the Blitz Raiders.
>>82561024>Implying that its not like a cancer that grows to consume everythingThe other writers must be ok with it at the very least, and its bad writing will influence everyone else work. This compounds with the more woke employees they have
>>82526682That is most likely what other chapters call them behind there backs because of how weird they are. And you know the whole sleeping in space coffins during the day. And when they wake up they drink the blood of there enemy's to steal there souls.
>>82534198We can always go with "BLOOD FOR THE ANGEL" what with who there father is.But now that i think about it do you think Buffy will be mad that her boyfriend sired even more vampires?
So i am not sure if them being divergent blood angels will let them get away with this but here goes. The reason there brother Chapters want nothing to do with these guys is that they see the red thirst and the black rage not as curses that will doom them in the end. But as the last gifts Sanguinius gave his sons before he died.They see nothing wrong with giving in to the red thirst and using it to drink the blood of there enemy's. And the black rage is not only a holy gift given to the sons of Sanguinius to take revenge on his foes. But a chance to be given his power as well. For the sons of the dragon have a dark ritual that they say brings them closer to there progenitor than anything else. They say that if a Chapter of the blood of Sanguinius were to drink all of the blood of there death company brothers then they will gain all of Sanguinius memory's from before he died. As they think that the blood of the death company is they same as the blood of Sanguinius himself.
>>82562456If their entire gimmick gets too tied to the black rage they will become Flesh Tearers 2.0. As other anons said, it's cooler if their death company had a more extensive use of dreadnoughts But I like the idea that they embrace the red thirst.
>>82526526>>82532761>>82560339Let's create some kind of combined monstrosity. Eyeless, seeing entirely through sonar with a face straight from underwater vore hell.
>>82527591Even for AA it's very average (and if it's Saber's own graphic engine then multiplayer is fucked)
>>82526526Let's get more creative. Make them blind as >>82565444 suggested and capable of running on all fours.
>>82526526>>82567864Maybe give them segmented jaws?
>>82526526>>82567864>>82567895How about mothlike wing patterns?
>>82565444>>82567864>>82567895I dig it; seems grim dark and alien
>>82526526>>82565444>>82567864>>82567895>>82567919>>82567930>>82567932Retractable barbed tongues. Also, how about a larval stage, the chapter scouts have to survive sneaking into the nest to steal a grub as a rite of passage?
>>82564361No that is the thing tho. The Flesh Tearers and all of the other sons of Sanguinius see the black rage as a curse that is killing them and shaming the name of there father.The sons of the dragon do not see it that way. They think that it is just the last blessing of Sanguinius given form. And that the more of there brothers that embrace the red thirst and the black rage the closer they all get to there primarch.But in the end they may be nothing more than a bunch of deluded monsters that are trying to find a justification for all of the blood they have spilled. And all of the sins they have committed that they do not feel bad about at all. Because of how evil and depraved they all are.
>>82527591Has Titus been demoted to Lieutenant?
>>82569403I see, that core difference in their Ideology is interesting. I dig it if we mix this with a more extensive use of dreads and a cult of trying to live as long as possible in servitude of Sanguinius But how would they get away with these deviant behaviors? I think a inner circle/Hexagrammaton style secrecy would be nice.>>82567977>>82567932>>82567930>>82567919>>82567895>>82567864>>82565444We need a Drawfag to give life to this beauty
>>82570861>extensive use of dreads and a cult of trying to live as long as possible in servitude of SanguiniusThey use repurposed dreadnought sarcophagus technologies to hibernate when not in battle or training, to stave off the Red Thirst and Black Rage.
>>82570861>We need a Drawfag to give life to this beautyThey evolved to hunt planet Wallachia's giant armadillos >>82553178. Mandibles >>82567895 to restrain their prey and enormous fangs >>82565444 to punch through their exoskeletal armor to allow the proboscis access to the meat, where it regurgitates digestive juices then sucks up the resulting slurry.Works just as well on power-armored enemies which explains the Sons of the Dragon looking at these monstrosities and thinking "let's domesticate 'em".
>>82565444>>82567895>>82567977>>82571043Heads should be mostly mandibles, ears and flattened upturned nose, all folded together. Very narrow, the brain is in the chest cavity.
>>82571043>Works just as well on power-armored enemies which explains the Sons of the Dragon looking at these monstrosities and thinking "let's domesticate 'em".Turns out their like over grown ouppies
>>82571467If raised from larva. Still like the idea of sending aspirants to sneak into the nest and make off with a grub. They succeed, they'll demonstrate the chapter's skill at stealth. They don't, they'll be lunch.
>>82571691>initiates are sent in squads, unarmed and under-equipped to the frigid mountains up north>their objective, to find a cave of the most dangerous creature of the Planet>After finding the cave the squads that survived this perilous journey need to infiltrate and extract a larvae >Many tactics can be deployed to accomplish this, even attacking another squad to steal their larvae>IF the squad comes back with a Larvae alive it will grow to become the squad's companion >This dangerous and strict training method instills the chapter's culture of isolation, brutal Survivalism and stealth
What are my chapter options when i want to go max moral roll damage?
>>82526593They're basically loyalist Night Lords.
>>82573519Might work best to run them with CSM rules. Constantly berserkering dreadnoughts and bat monsters counts-as heldrake daemon engines.
>>82562456That's wack and too much edgy
Borrow from here https://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/2016/46903744/The batmonsters take the place of jetpacks and droppods. Equipment and marine armor have handholds welded on, they get carried into battle and dropped.
>>82564361>As other anons said, it's cooler if their death company had a more extensive use of dreadnoughtsThey still need to feed. How about, under the eyeslit of their sarcophagi, their dreads have retractable hypodermic mandibles, hooked into the throat of the mutilated amputee astartes inside?
>>82570861>We need a DrawfagAlso Chapter Master Lugosi and the Death Company dreads.
These rolls turned out really nice and certainly built well upon each other. Something that really leans into the space vampire thing is great.And as always I am one to shill for a non-conventional color scheme for BL successors
>>82578016*BANot sure why I said BL
>>82576427Maybe it’s part of their dreads power fists. They could be kind of like big blenders/straws, slurping up the guys they beat down and pumping the remains in the sarcophagus.>>82578016A little too night lords.If the Sons of the Dragon are so fond of the black rage(/red thirst), maybe it should largely be a glossy and nearly black gore color.
>>82562456I like this line of thought.>>82564361>>82569403>>82570861>>82576427Another idea: what if their drop pods double as coffins/prisons for their brothers who are “embraced” by the black rage?Like, the Sons of the Dragon have found a way to leverage their additional geneseed defect of torpor, into a salve for the black rage: they lure their transformed brothers into a sensory deprived sarcophagus (drop pod) for indeterminate periods of time, then dump them on enemies, no towers needed. Their chaplains or (apothecaries or librarians or) captains might know a sort of pied piper song or command to “younger” thralls/marines to get them crammed back in when the battles over. This method may be learned & enforced by the chapters delvings into the nature of their progenitors gene-seed flaws, it could be a part of their “scout” training/indoctrination as well, making them susceptible to their superiors commands even in the black rage, or at least the compulsion to return to their “tombs”.
>>82579855You can even extend this to all their other transports, along with the red thirst, as well. Effectively making them really sleepy, dream walking, image training, spirit journeying vampires.>all battle brothers spend most of their time in torpor, housed in specially sealed vehicles, closed off from the outside world (probably ritually lined with the gore of their black companies)>in this restless yet still slumber, they ponder & master the red thirst, while battling with their inevitable embrace by the black rage>perhaps this long rest is as much for study as to stave off the black rage, so that they may prepare themselves better for its embrace, in this the “realm of rage”, their dreams, conversing with the blood of sanguinius within, & maybe even further visions from sanguinius himself, as well as another darker figure: the Black Angel they know as the Dragon, through which said blood they commune in spell bound pondering, only to be woken by war.>this could side step the black rage in other ways too: by not pondering battles on their eve, instead being awoken in the midst of battle, they may actually increase or decrease the chance of the black rage embracing them (could go either way, irrelevant of what the Sons of the Dragon actually believe).>also, by constantly dreaming of approaching battles &/or their dead Primarch, they may be “the hulk” chapter of the blood angels: always raging, & so have “better” mastery of their more intimately familiar/embraced flaws.You can say the scouts & chaplains (+ mortal thralls) are the only ones liable to be awake at any given time, tending to their brothers “tombs”.
>>82579886If you go with this, maybe dreadnaughts are thought as tombs for failures, those embraced too early by the black rage, or fallen before they could be embraced at all. They may be the only ones actually awake, along with the neophyte scouts, when not actively in battle. Tending to their chapters crypt-ships with the neophytes mortal thralls, & servitorsDying after the enlightenment brought from the blood of sanguinius, the black rage, may be their ultimate goal they seek as a chapter, even as their members wholly seek to each fully earn its blessings before their time comes (maybe only veterans or above are considered truly “worthy” to consider such blessings at all, anything less getting shoved in redemptor dreads).The black rage could be seen as sanguinius & the dragon trying to converse with them beyond the violent end of reality, crumbling their minds & possessing their bodies with its revelations.Mephiston is probably held EXTREMELY high regard by these guys, as they too wish to master the black rage & fully understand their blessings from beyond. To bad he’s not talking, but maybe that just makes the Sons of the Dragon even more zealous in their astral projecting dream journeys through the blood of the primarch & his rage calling them from beyond infinity.
>>82526629Fuck I arrived too late, the idea of Bleeding Angels/Sons of Stigmata was a great idea as a name.
>>82577826Someone called for a Drawfag?Pic related: example of what I do
>>82579969Also I need a very short recap of what these SM are essentialy (I got they are more Vampire than their parent legion and their Chapter Master looks like Bela Lugosi), but need some more details before I goo too much on the Impaler aesthetic.
>>82579954>sons of stigmataDamn…. I like that too>insert “sons of stygmata” wherever you would like wherever the chapter is referenced in my rambling posts about the “sons of the dragon”.
>>82579989>founding purpose: Strategic>founding date: M38; 23rd ("Sentinel") Founding>chapter geneseed flaw: Lost zygote - The Catalepsean Node: the legion enters dreamlike trances they cannot be woken from outside of war or great summons (may get worse with age)>chapters flaw: recluses. they refuse the company of others not of their chapter or thralls>demeanor: swift as the wind; the sons of sanguinius are restless as their dead primarch>figure of legend: a battle brother, a chapter master no less; a hero who led his Chapter in many glorious campaigns, slaying hundreds of the enemy’s greatest champions.>home world: a feudal desert world, yet filled with veritable & pleasurable delights that they rule distantly; Wallachia, from which they draw their prospective neophytes & mortal thralls, thanklessly stealing them unto the night>adherence to the codex astartes: obviously divergent >martial training of the chapter: Set to deliver a decisive & blow, shattering the enemy in a singular demoralizing strike while fueling their own ranks to greater heights of blood lust>the posses bestial companions which shadow them into war: armadillo bats!!??>they revere their primarch above all else with every breath: his blood filling their vision both waking & dreaming>their chapter is under strength: the blood of their liege is demanding, none yet have weathered it eternally. Yet the chapter endures. His sons endure.>their allies are the planetary defense force, the righteous yet undisciplined Spawn of Wallachia, augmented by uncanny means & carried by iron steeds into war>they are regularly in conflict with a daemon of khorne: an ascended prince who haunts their every step, waking & otherwiseAlso see >>82551541 for summary of the enemies of the PDF frens.
>>82580098>Wear funeral masks>Bleed profusely, a lot>are zaelous af>Big Blasphaemous vibes>Their chaplains wear BLEEDING SKULLS HELMETS
>>82580287Thank you, will stard sketching some stuff asap before doing more official works.
>>82576427>>82579822>>82580675>>82580711ENTER:>The Exsanguinator is both a sophisticated medical device and close quarters weapon, used by Sanguinary Priests to harvest the gene-seed of fallen comrades.>When a Battle-Brother falls in combat, it is the duty of the Sanguinary Priests to either restore him or safeguard his genetic heritage for future Battle-Brothers, storing it away in the Exsanguinator.Maybe black company &/or dreads in this chapter are considered chalice bearers/alter boys/medical assistants to the sanguinary priests.They get the some of the duds, and the responsibility of making more Sanguinius blood (by drinking more blood themselves).>>82580733Besides losing his wings, do they describe how sanguinius was killed?
>>82580795They ... probably have a veey depressing version of his death.But uttermost, they have in their tales that they failed horribly.
>>82580908Also anyone have ideas for helms, pauldrons, a geberal look of their armors ?
>>82580795>> specially constructed golden sarcophagi of the Blood Angels. These life-giving marvels of arcane technology were master-crafted pieces of machinery, so advanced that even a Techmarine could not fully fathom the intricacies of its workings. These sarcophagi were used in the IX Legion's ritual of transforming an Aspirant from a stunted, radioactive Baal tribesman into a Blood Angel Astartes; their restructured bodies and features taking on a beauty in the course of their metamorphosis that echoed that of their angelic forebear.So there’s presidence for them take after, maybe this chapters coffins are “given to them at birth” so speak, when they are made into prospect marines.Also, just another idea: what if on top of their effective immortality as marines, they also have an inherited immortality in their gene seed that they tap into during their dreams?IE, they channel whatever their predecessors could glean on the subject from their connection through a shared geneseed, like a focus in divination, the tank/coffin they rest in being the crystal ball, & their blood/tank fluids being the pooling substance that gives the ephemeral blotting visions form/meaning/a presence in their dreaming minds.They look more and more like the composite conscious/being of their geneseed ancestors and ultimately sanguinius the longer they live, but due to the chapters “obsessionquirks/predilections”, they typically become twisted by the twin curses they bare before they can fulfill their progenitors facade/being.Sort of a chasing sang in dreams(or spirit) but are going about it a funky if prophetic apt &/or parallel way to the main bloodangels by embracing the rages broken up by ceaseless meditation on said subjects & subsequent divinations & studies.
>>82580287>feudal world ruled by distant sleepy vampire marines>but it’s also a pleasure planet>and the PDF are a righteous, if undisciplined, (mechanized) combat armyThey really are vampire thralls in space lol. Practically ghouls from vtm.Another suggestion for their name: besides the Spawn, I suggest their name be the Spawn of Ichor, or the Lords of Ichor, since it seems like they are the provisional rulers/stewards while the true masters (our requiem loving & reclusive vampire marines) are away (which is effectively always, even when they’re actually there).
>>82581040Isn’t the PDF for a pleasure world and ot for Transylvania
Ok, I had no absolute idea how to make these guys, but since they are closer to the character of Dracula than the Blood Angels, I did these 3 heads for now.As for helmets and armor, anyone have suggestioms besides the Bram Stoker's Dracula one ?And do they uses the pelts and other stuff of their animal companions? Do3s élite units wear peculiar helms shaped like dragon heads? Or wear something like the skull of some dragon-like creature ?
>>82581221they are one and the same! >>82527519 >>82527759 >>82528114 >>82528165It’s kind of a cool twist for such violent inhuman space monsters.Their planet is a paradise resort they want no part in! There’s some kind of symbolism there I’m sure…>>82581250Never rolled for their pets, so who know what their pelts are like.Either batlike and/or space armadillos from what I read.
>>82582839>Marine Homeworld is a frozen feudal world>>82526371>>82526383>PDF homeworld is a desert pleasure world>>82528165>>82528332I thought they were just in the same sector.
>>82583495oops, nice save, totally forgot the icey roll, skimmed over it after feudal!
>>82579855I like this a lot, it e even coincides with how greater and more powerful vampires control the lesser beings that they bite
>>82579969yes, we need someone to draw our creatures>>82572256>>82571691>>82571043>>82567932>>82567977>>82567895>>82567864>>82565444feel free to draw other stuff please, I dig your art style
I'll propose a few points that still have not been discussed what's the Sons of the Dragon view on Primaris marines? Since they are so skechty and isolated I think they would not get a huge amount of greyshields if they get any to begin with. Where is their system located? What's it's name, how many planets are there besides Blitz and "Transylvania" (I hope this one is a placeholder name) etc.Did they partake in the Indomitus crusade?
>>82584543>what's the Sons of the Dragon view on Primaris marines?>Did they partake in the Indomitus crusade?I’m guessing they didn’t hear about either until very recently in *current* lore.If they did hear of them, they probably didn’t care too much, especially when it was believed Primaris couldn’t be embraced by the black rage: they probably saw them as dead ends in the bloodline.Maybe they were “at Baal”, in the same capacity the Knights of Blood were before they became a big feature in the BL books: just skirting the edges of their cousins gathering & sitting balls deep in tyranid flooded voids of space.> Where is their system located?Idk, probably nihilus given how grim and dreary they seem to be.> What's it's name?Should probably reflect the cold nature of their world, maybe have to do with or evocative of cryosleep or frostbite.They are sleepy leeches after all.
>>82584218>>82582839>Never rolled for their pets, so who know what their pelts are like.Since vampires normally control vermin writ large, perhaps their war beasts share in their vampiric and morphological nature: that is they consume the blood the marines & so change, along with perhaps age>new born war beast: armadillo/rat tier, live on animal/mortal blood>adolescent warbeast: armadillo rat, but wolf sized, consumes the blood of neophyte scout marines/their handlers>adult: winged armadillo bats the size of people, consume drops of blood siphoned from the entombed battle brothers themselves, the vapors of their dreams, the soma of the red rage>ancient war beasts: lived for so long, and on a diet supplemented by the corpses (sans gene seed) of dead battle brothers, that they swell to enormous size& are twisted by the chapters twin blood born curses (basically becomi terrorgheists)
>>82584543>>82584946Also, when they first were given Primaris, assuming they were (& that they didn’t turn them away), they might have actually been the first to find out they are susceptible to the twin rages of the legion.>tfw they conduct terrible tortures & “Russian Sleep Experiment” tier tests & trails on their early Primaris, literally trying to drive them into manic rages & warp vision haunted narcolepsy that can only be cured the siren call of bloodshed & warOnly reason no one else found out Primaris are susceptible to the Blood Angel gene-flaws when they did is because, well they don’t talk much >>82526256 and are a chapter of reclusive shut in Nosferatu.
Possible names based of frostbite for their home world (via google translate :p):>Pruina-Mordere>gelu-morsu>gelumorsulum>gelumors>gelumorsika
>>82585639I like gelumors, maybe we should call their system Pruina-Mordere
>>82586343I’m down with that.>for some reason hearing these names being said in the voice of Warlock from Dota 2
>>82585639Pruina-Mordere seems the best