>Resident Evil-esque mutant zombie tech exists gets discovered in our reality (or basically equivalent timeline whatever)>Instead of constantly spiraling out of control the virus/parasites/mold/etc is actually fairly reliable and becomes a cornerstone of military technology (and even finds a place in some civilian spheres)>World is divided into BOW-using nations and non-BOW nations (Red (BOW-users) vs White (Anti-BOW) nations?)How could this sort of stuff end up changing the world? My thoughts are that the system should either be Esoterrorists, CoC, or Nechronica if you play as the monsters, but I'm good at mechanics and running games, not as much worldbuilding (don't have the time), so I'm wondering if /tg/ has any ideas on how to flesh out the concept a bit more.
>>84398883Wasn't that more or less what happened in RE6 and Umbrella Chronicles?
>>84399909Not really.The closest to that in RE6 was the war in eastern Russia and the Neo Umbrella terrorists unleashing the C-Virus in China.
>>84399909Umbrella did eventually get the Tyrant working and even managed to sell a few batches in eastern Europe but by that point they were already hemorrhaging money and their stock was in the toilet.
>>84400193That's probably it. Deadite super soldiers to supplement regular infantry is probably as far as you go if your give a shit at all about civilian casualties or just don't want to deal with the backlash. Using a zombie virus on your enemies is just one step below using one yourself on the scale of shit that gets you nuked.
>>84398883The problem with Tyrants and BOW in general as weapons of war is that they're not controllable. They developed a precise method, in laboratory condition to get the same mutations to occur to host human/animal/hybrid bodies over and over again. So Umbrella, or whoever, can have a product line to sell. But as soon as you turn a batch loose all you can really do is write the area off. As soon as they hit the battlefield anything in it being killed will get infected and become a zombie. Zombies can mutate and start causing problems on their own. Even the flagship line of Tyrants: the Space Marines of Umbrella are unreliable. Enough though they're armored, and have a special coat to control their mutation, and usually have some kind of additional mechanism to ensure control: it's never enough. At some point damage done to a Tyrant means they start to mutate, as an autoimmune response. Eventually every Tyrant will have whatever means of control either get too damaged to operate, or simply get damaged/removed itself so that they become the same kind of omnihomicidal monster. I imagine some people are willing to take that risk, but since it has a near 100% failure rate as far as we see I can't imagine a long term successful army integrating BOW units.
>>84398883The effectiveness on the battlefield would be heavily outweighed by how IMMENSELY unpopular and demoralizing it would be for your own side. None of your soldiers or military commanders are going to be happy they have to use this shit, and they certainly won't like fighting alongside it. And thats assuming it is 100% controllable and consistent, which we know it won't be. The first time a single Tyrant goes apeshit and turns into a building-sized snot monster and you have to bunker buster it to kill it and napalm the remains? The whole project will get the plug pulled on it. But even if you never have that problem, who are you turning into zombie dudes? Because there is no good option here. Whoever the first people to use these units are is going to be dealing with a civil war as well as an invasion by every other world power pretty much all at once. Because NOBODY wants you to have this toy.
>>84398883something like this would logicaly happendsa biological tanket would make sence>1st world contry always look for tankets but low suvivability and breaking down alway make the projet cancel, last one succesfull one was the weasel, make sense to make a low cost biological version that cant be use by the enemie if captured>mechanical drone are not always good enought for a mission, too expensive, too unpredectible, no self thoughts and you get blamed for war crimes dirrectly, a biological tanket would remove all these problemes>it would be sentien and be imiune to anything less then 20mm rounds so 3rd worlders would have a shit time dealings with BLTs and AT rocket would be spend on cheap zert tier target instead on expensive vehicles>you just need food so you can spend less precious fuel for your jets and MBTs>all the horrible shit they do can be dienied and since they are not humans they have no rights>they are lighter then any armored vehicule so you can drop them by parachute>once you make the nessesary preparation you can breed them like chikens, mass indoctrinate them and train them in mass, you probably be even able to further cut cost by making the veteren BLT train your hatchlingsover time Biological-Light-tanks would be added to the police state like MRAPs for riot controle or body guardsmaybe even sold as expensive pets for milionairsinfectious bioweapon is retarded since it can spreed incontrably and will piss off the world enought to nuke the outbrake and you at the same time
>>84398883>CoCAh, so GIANT BOWAIFUS!!>>84401514>None of your soldiers or military commanders are going to be happy they have to use this shit, and they certainly won't like fighting alongside it.>>84401829>over time Biological-Light-tanks would be added to the police state like MRAPs for riot controle or body guards>maybe even sold as expensive pets for milionairsBoWaifus...
>>84399909Something like that in one of the CGI movies, some ex-soviet country collapses into a civil war between tyrants using government and rebels who field plaga controlled lickers. It also kinda showed why muh militarized mutants kinda fucking at warfare against anyone with access to anything heavier than infantry small arms, the government's tyrants get deleted from existence in seconds bya warthog strafing run.
>>84402175Yeah, but you're not going to be using Tyrants to fight helicopters.
>>84401909the other CoC
>>84398883Personally, RE's BOWs have always felt more suited to harassment and economic disruption than actual combat unit fare - they'd have a bit of an edge in built-up areas, sure, but there aren't many capabilities a BOW can offer that isn't already fulfilled by an existing technology or unit. Sure, some of them are small-arms resistant, but that's why anti-armor weapons exist.What BOWs could be well-suited for would be logistics harassment, especially in civilian areas (if the user isn't squeamish about things like "sanctions" and "international ostracism"). Having packs of BOWs lurking (and possibly even reproducing) in the woods, occasionally raiding nearby convoys or villages. Forcing the enemy to divest resources into maintaining heavier QRFs and anti-partisan measures. I think they'd be used more like munitions, as opposed to traditional military units - you expend them in an area and then let them do their thing. Kind of like an autonomous Operation Vegetarian.The immediate consequence is the proliferation of BOW "unexploded ordnance" in post-war areas - BOWs left active long after the war that may need to be hunted down to resecure civilian areas for reconstruction. This could be a good starting point for your prospective party - NGO or post-war contractors clearing areas of BOWs deployed in a previous conflict.
>>84401514>The first time a single Tyrant goes apeshit and turns into a building-sized snot monster and you have to bunker buster it to kill it and napalm the remains?This can be fixed by changing one thing, that being making it so BOWs can't conjure matter out of nothing and in order to become building-sized monsters need a building-sized amount of building blocks.
>>84398883>EsoterroristsIt would never work here unless heavily refluffed. The Membrane would instantly shatter and everyone would get raped by the Outer Dark. Resident Evil BOWs don't work in a system so married to its setting like Esoterrorists.
>>84402175>It also kinda showed why muh militarized mutants kinda fucking [suck] at warfare against anyone with access to anything heavier than infantry small arms, the government's tyrants get deleted from existence in seconds bya warthog strafing run.Yeah, that's the primary problem people have with militarized applications of biological science; The point of a weapon is to KILL or at least incapacitate someone.Biological Pathogens are inherently as indiscriminate as Chemical ones, making them practically suicidal to use if you don't implement them properly or have the proper countermeasures in place.If I can genetically transform an opponent into a biological juggernaut, why use that technology to create indiscriminate Terror Monsters when I could, I don't know, use it on my own willing Soldiers to turn them into DISCRIMINATE Terror Monsters?>>84402355>the other CoCStill BoWaifus...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlW8KamiXAU
>>84402514> "Don't worry everyone! The out of control monster weapon is only that big because it has consumed over 400 townsfolk and some number of pets and livestock. Nothing to worry about!"HOW IS THAT BETTER?
>>84402514If BOW's can't conjure matter out of nothing, then they aren't BOW's. The whole point of RE viruses is that they're basically magitech sourced from ancient slumbering eldritch forces that are only vaguely biological.
>>84402601>If BOW's can't conjure matter out of nothing, then they aren't BOW's. The whole point of RE viruses is that they're basically magitech sourced from ancient slumbering eldritch forces that are only vaguely biological.If I can conjure matter out of nothing, why am I using it to create indiscriminate Horror Monsters and not DISCRIMINATE Horror Waifus?
>>84398883While the Desire would be for Tyrants the closes you'd probably get would be Sheri who has a degree of healing because of her G Virus mutation.That said, you'd still need biomass to help with the hyper accelerated growth and a way to deal with having your brain fried by the process (What's her face from Veronica had to go into stasis for 20 years while the T-Veronica Virus mutated her so she wouldn't go insane like the others)
>>84402393I may be misremembering, but wasn't the whole BOW project ultimately just a byproduct of Oswald Spencer researching immortality?
>>84402837After a decade of retcons, yes, but at least as far as the original trilogy goes, Umbrella was dead serious about trying to sell monsters as weapons of war.
>>84402697Because you have poor taste in waifus.
>>84401420>The problem with Tyrants and BOW in general as weapons of war is that they're not controllable.The bigger problem is that they suck. They run into the tank problem, minus the ability to cheaply roll off of an assembly line and the ability to retrofit. If you hit the biggest, beefiest BOW with an anti-materiel rifle, it's going to be missing a chunk out of it the size of a basketball.So what can you do? Put them in the woods and have them harass civilians? So they're, at best, really expensive landmines?
>>84402837>I may be misremembering, but wasn't the whole BOW project ultimately just a byproduct of Oswald Spencer researching immortality?Pretty much, Village's big bad was his inspiration despite his never knowing she'd technically already achieved that goal with the Mold, and her own research was towards using it's memory preservation powers to try and resurrect her dead daughter...>>84402835>While the Desire would be for Tyrants the closes you'd probably get would be Sheri who has a degree of healing because of her G Virus mutation.EXACTLY!>That said, you'd still need biomass to help with the hyper accelerated growthLike large fat reserves?Perhaps gynoidally distributed for aesthetic appeasement?
>>84402906Even with the retcons the BOWs were always meant as weapons to be sold. It's just that that was to fund further immortality/ t-virus research.
>>84402940Even if you managed to scale things back and implement BOW style stuff to the original end of an enhanced human soldier, you run into the financing issues where you're trying to convince corrupt, paranoid politicians to empower their own militaries. Outside of warlords with abundant gold reserves who deign to engage in some Mansa Musa expenditure on an elite guard, you're not selling that. It's easier for the democratic nations of the world to cry crocodile tears over ten thousand dead than it is for them to let super soldiers happen.
>>84401420But in RE5 in africa they controlled BOW, they arent tyrants they are just shitty scorpions and more tonned down stuff
>>84403001Super soldiers might not happen but super athletes would totally happen if they could sneak it past the regulatory agencies.
>>84402906>Umbrella was dead serious about trying to sell monsters as weapons of war.>>84402998>Even with the retcons the BOWs were always meant as weapons to be sold. It's just that that was to fund further immortality/ t-virus research.>>84403001>Even if you managed to scale things back and implement BOW style stuff to the original end of an enhanced human soldier, you run into the financing issues where you're trying to convince corrupt, paranoid politicians to empower their own militaries....I thought it was just a side-piece with their Pharmaceutical Empire?Or is that just an addition of the Movies?>>84402923>Because you have poor taste in waifus.Why would I want a Football Laced Butterface for a Horror Waifu?We're spending hundreds of millions of dollars on this project and I still need to put a bag on her?>>84403053>Super soldiers might not happen but super athletes would totally happen if they could sneak it past the regulatory agencies.Hell it'd probably have greater application in the Sex Work Industry.
>>84402601The only way BOWs make any "logical" sense is if the virus's Umbrella is working with are Makai diseases left behind from when Sparta kicked all the demons back into Hell.
>>84403128>just a side-piece with their Pharmaceutical EmpireYou are correct, Umbrella is, at least by the end of the original trilogy, a multinational pharmaceutical powerhouse on par with J&J that also dabbles into bioweapons research as a lark while raking in billions selling first aid meds, dick pills, and antidepressants.
>>84403186Depending on your canon, it can actually work the opposite way, but Umbrella existing independently on the back of its bioweapons R&D makes no sense considering they had never managed to make a single product that was actually useful in their entire history.
>>84402940There was a Tyrant assembly line though. It was called Sheena Island and it even had a little town where Umbrella could locally source teenagers for parts.
>>84403186>You are correct, Umbrella is, at least by the end of the original trilogy, a multinational pharmaceutical powerhouse on par with J&J that also dabbles into bioweapons research as a lark while raking in billions selling first aid meds, dick pills, and antidepressants....So why AREN'T they creating Giant BoWaifus?
>>84403227Because Oswald still wants a penis when the lab boys find a way to turn him into a glorious immortal god chad. That's the real problem with the tyrants, they never found a way to keep the penis.
>>84403216That's utterly unsustainable, though. And again, you run into the same issue. Even if you make the t-virus zombie gigachad, it goes down in a single shot with a sufficiently powerful man-portable weapon. And with tyrants specifically, they run into a problem more often reserved for mechs. What are tyrants going to do when under fire? Duck? Haul ass? Throw their arms up and roar impotently, becoming an even larger target?
>>84403207Yeah, it changes damn near game-to-game, even early on; Umbrella is implied to be so small in RE1 that the dinky Arklay lab is their primary/only bioweapons development location and Chris has never even heard of them before or used their normal over the counter products. Then by RE3 it's been established that Umbrella has massive superlabs doing shady shit all over the world, two private armies, and enough clout in the U.S govt to delay the launch of a nuke for several days.
>>84403253>Because Oswald still wants a penis when the lab boys find a way to turn him into a glorious immortal god chad.It is odd that his Mentor Miranda basically achieved all of that AND could be whoever the hell she wanted, and still lost everything trying to resurrect her daughter.Like, woman you've got an ENTIRE CULT calling you Mommy but you're fixated on recreating a ten year old who died literally a Century ago?!
>>84403273He obeys his commander and hoses the guys shooting at him down with heavy ordinance along with the squad of soldiers he's been assigned too.You seem to think you send these guys out alone, but you don't. You integrate them into your human units.
>>84403339I watch a youtube video that pointed out that each of Miranda's heavies except fish boy were some form of immuno-compromised or had been exposed to the fungus in smaller ways before they got the big dose, which is why they took to it so well. You could extrapolate this to the rest of the series, because shit mutates when it's damaged or comes under attack. So if you want a stable mutation with a magic virus, you use someone whose immune system can't properly fight back against it as a base.
>>84403487So basically you want to recruit from gay bars since they're like 50x more likely to have AIDS.
>>84403368>woman momentI mean yeah, but Oswald wanting to be a "glorious immortal god chad" is totally a Man moment...Miranda's motherly neglect just stings because Eva was the basis for Eveline, who in turn infected Ethan and Mia and thus result in Rosemary.Why was THAT Mold Baby so special?How the hell could Miranda even tell she had successfully imprinted her ten year old daughter's memories onto THIS Infant?What was it about Eveline that made her NOT Eva enough to be discarded and how did Miranda come to that conclusion?!>>84403487>So if you want a stable mutation with a magic virus, you use someone whose immune system can't properly fight back against it as a base.Well yeah, that's Bio-engineering 101; Make sure whatever you're modifying doesn't freak the fuck out first.
>>84403207They make/ made the healing spray.
>>84398883The "cautionary tale" aspect of Resident Evil is a large majority of what makes it compelling. Why would you want to remove that?
>>84403281>enough clout in the U.S govt to delay the launch of a nuke for several days.I mean, launching a nuke onto your own soil is a desperate measure in any scenario, all they would need is one or two lobbyists to stir up trouble.
>>84403339Miranda pretty explicitly only wanted her daughter back. Even Dimitrescu, explicitly probably the closest she'd gotten to creating a proper "substitute daughter", was considered a failure due to an inherent design flaw forcing her to need a constant supply of blood and flesh to keep the mold infection stable, as well as the fact that she was too willful to make into a viable vessel for Eva.Miranda would be content with the entire world burning down so long as she got Eva. Hell, she could have been a bigger threat than anyone else with the power of the Megamycete but only wanted her daughter back and nothing else.
>>84403985>Miranda would be content with the entire world burning down so long as she got Eva. Hell, she could have been a bigger threat than anyone else with the power of the Megamycete but only wanted her daughter back and nothing else.Of course, but how would she even know Eva from Eveline?Eva was TEN when she died, and Eveline could have very well been her resurrection.
>>84402974>Perhaps gynoidally distributed for aesthetic appeasement?If a giant blob of flesh that happens to have some females assimilated into it counts to. Dimitrescu is not readily reproducible and most people who get a Kadou implanted will probably turn into Lycans or worst
My own setting is like this. WW1-equivalent keeps on going for decades because the guys who instigated it found the blood of an old god under their country and put their brains in undying war machines until every industry but the stuff required to keep them alive ran out of steam, forcing both sides to turn to using frankenstein-cyborg abominations (also created via old god blood) in place of tanks and later infantry once they were good enough that they were better than normal soldiers.Nowadays the remnants of the frankenstein-cyborg army have sort of integrated with the remaining human micronations, forming a symbiotic relationship where they provide the muscle to the humans' brains, since they tend to be dumber than normal humans on average. People are just numb to bodies being carted off to the corpse factories when they die since it's so commonplace and no one can afford not to do it. You'll have farmer boys conscripted off the fields marching alongside towering meat juggernauts with ribs for teeth and a crudely-implanted autocannon sticking out of their chest.
>>84404232Posted before I could actually give advice regarding this, whoops.Basically, I think the only way such a society could form is after such a catastrophe demanding such desperate solutions that people wouldn't think twice about such horrific weapons being used, particularly if they're made from people or the remains of people. Alien invasion, nuclear holocaust, etc, there's gotta be some major impetus for it.
>>84404144>Dimitrescu is not readily reproducibleBlood disorder + cadou is all it takes. Sure that might be rare but only like 1 in a million can be made into a Tyrant and they were cranking those things out via cloning by the end. Which yeah, Umbrella had fucking cloning tech in 1998 and just decided, "Nah man, mutagenic viruses are the path to both money and immortality."
>>84398883>World is divided into BOW-using nations and non-BOW nations (Red (BOW-users) vs White (Anti-BOW) nations?)If they're actually good things to use on the battlefield that define it so much, then you're not going to get that divide. This would be like having the set up for a setting be "The world is divided into those who use automatic weapons and those who don't." If you want to set up some actually viable alternative that the ones against it would use, then go ahead, but the whys should make some degree of sense at a glance.The nuclear proliferation probably wouldn't be the worst way to start with it being that not everyone is for it, but most who have something to be afraid of or want more pull will try to get it. The haves try to make sure the have-nots stay that way and even the states committed to being a have-not for moral or philosophical reasons are either not relevant or have the back up of a have.
>setting has ancient monstrosities like the black god, plagas, and progenitor virus>also has genetic engineering tech>narrative is still boring as shit overall
>>84403487>I watch a youtube video that pointed out that each of Miranda's heavies except fish boy were some form of immuno-compromised or had been exposed to the fungus in smaller ways before they got the big doseReally? I remember that Dimitrescu had some weird blood disease (hemophilia?) but I don't remember Beneviento and Heisenberg having anything like that.
>>84404144>If a giant blob of flesh that happens to have some females assimilated into it counts to.Gynoid Fat Distribution is where it is focused on the Butt (And preferably Breasts), as opposed to Android Fat Distribution (AKA Gut).Gynoidal Fat storage is less problematic health-wise than Androidal, so it makes sense our BoWaifu has big fat Tits and Ass to store extra biomass.>Dimitrescu is not readily reproducible and most people who get a Kadou implanted will probably turn into Lycans or worstHalf of the Four Lords were Female and Donna was barely disfigured......In fact do you ever even see a Female Lycan?All the images I'm finding are male...If they were attempts at creating a body for Eva, certainly there should be Female Lycans right?They can't ALL have become Moroaicǎ?>>84404557>Blood disorder + cadou is all it takes. Sure that might be rare but only like 1 in a million can be made into a Tyrant and they were cranking those things out via cloning by the end. Which yeah, Umbrella had fucking cloning tech in 1998 and just decided, "Nah man, mutagenic viruses are the path to both money and immortality.">>84404646>>also has genetic engineering techYeah, it'd be SO easy to create a race of BoWaifus, instead we get an excuse for survival horror...>>84404622>The nuclear proliferation probably wouldn't be the worst way to start with it being that not everyone is for it, but most who have something to be afraid of or want more pull will try to get it. The haves try to make sure the have-nots stay that way and even the states committed to being a have-not for moral or philosophical reasons are either not relevant or have the back up of a have.So yeah, you'd have some kind of Pre-Apocalypse Nechronica where BoWaifu Monster(girls) fight each other on the behalf of their respective Nations.
>>84404557Yeah, they found one guy who's genetics could reliably create a stable Tyrant variant and had to clone him. Even then, T-Virus mutation is nothing like Cadou implantation even though Mother Maranda was responsible for teaching Spencer about this shit to begin with (with him and his buddies finding the originator virus in Africa)>>84404757Considering the nature of the Mold and the power of the Kadou the gender of the user doesn't matter only that they had the qualities Maranda was looking for to act as a host for her daughter.
>>84404907>only that they had the qualities Maranda was looking for to act as a host for her daughter.Which WERE?Mind you they basically CLONED Eva to get the Eveline series, but the perfect candidate was apparently the child of two random Mold Infectees?
>>84404987Apparently so considering both Ethan and Mia were both infected by Mold and Ethan basically became a mold monster that was able to retain his human semblance and sanity up until the end and resist the control of Evaline all the while.
>>84405058You see that's the problem; Miranda probably DID resurrect Eva in Eveline (and by extension Rosemary), she just fails to recognize her TEN YEAR OLD DAUGHTER in those bodies because she's chasing the IDEAL of Eva, not her actual girl.The Eve-line then seeks out a replacement mother in Mia, and via the Mold's Memory properties effectively reincarnates herself as her and Ethan's actual baby.Rose is Eveline is Eva but, because Mia and Ethan were actual GOOD parents, she'd MUCH rather be their child Rosemary since Miranda already rejected her being "Eva."
>>84401909>BoWaifusThis, but entirely seriously.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterile_insect_technique
>>84398883>Get a virus and a parasitic worm at the same time: suddenly gain 200kg of mass from thin air. Intuitive knowledge of how to kill and spread plague ingrained memetically on my mind from the genetic code of an African flower.Like I understand why the BOW squad never has time to think about this but this isn't biology, this is barely even physics. In any other universe this'd be some Call of Cthulhu shit.
>>84405767>This, but entirely seriously.EXACTLY!Humanity may go extinct, but we shall leave behind better a race of Protector Matrons!
A giant living brain in a capsule. You drop the capsule on a city, it opens up, and the brain starts going wild zapping everything in a certain radius with the bio-electricity in generates from thinking too hard. Slap some tentacles on that fucker to smash anything it can't zap or slap missiles out of the air, and give it a bone shell attached to other tentacles that comes apart like a jigsaw puzzle so it can fire electrify while still having a bunch of shield it can use to defend itself.I wonder if this is what working at Umbrella R&D feels like?
>>84403515Safer to go after homeless people, less people to ask around when they go missing. If they're not infected you can just feed them some bushmeat or pull some cheeky blood transfusions.
>>84406735There's a quite a lot more time, effort and horrific impaling involved with R&D. Especially the impaling.
The best products of the Umbrella era were the hunters and the mass production tyrants, and neither really plays well with others.>>84406735Reminds me of Nyx.
Resident Evil style BOW probably would never really work but with a few modifications they might. A BOW that can be bred would solve the issues of logistics. You could have breeders that create new BOWs and sterilized soldiers (or if you're feeling frisky you can leave the soldier class intact and use them as breeding stock to increase fitness). As for weapons, claws and and teeth probably won't cut it (pun not intended) and you would have to attach real guns on them. They would probably never work as something heavy like a tank but could be used as shock assault, QRF or special operations. Controlling them would be an issue but that could be solved either by breeding in obedience (like dogs), using machines to control them (like those cyborg roaches) or doing some weird science thing where you either modify existing soldiers or put the brains of soldiers in the BOW bodies.
>>84407772That's literally a thing. Later gen lickers, the ones from 5 that tricell made, were true breeding, and as seen in Damnation could be controlled via queen plagas.
>>84407879Then just use those and strap a backpack gun on them like those giant lizard salamander things the Tau use as auxiliaries.
>>84401909>BOWAIFUShttps://pastebin.com/F4DpRXStI would still pay good money for some lad to finish this to at least the day after proper copulation
>>84402393Ultimately the problem stems from videogame logic. For a BOW to make practical sense it has to be better in combat with an ordinary guy with a gun, but the survival horror genre demands that the player himself is an ordinary guy with a gun and has to take on an army of them without dying. This problem doesn't exist in a game like Prototype where the player is the BOW and is expected to plow through regular army units like he's Godzilla.
>>84398883I mean, what you're describing is a metaphor for nukes.
>>84407772Lickers can breed true, but they're...Lickers. You can't control them and they'll just kill anything in their way.
>>84398883Mutant nations would have an obvious advantage over normal ones. The best chance normie humans have is to pass some kind of international regulations to prevent bio tech from being used in warfare with a few rouge nations harboring secret bio weapon programs. The biggest impact that bio tech could have would be in the quality of life, as many miladies thought to be incurable would finally be cured, average life expectancy would skyrocket and the like, as well as the emergence of underground bio hacker sub cultures.
>>84413478>Ketracel-white.Because an Amino Acid Dependency worked SO well for Jurassic Park...
Here is what I never got about resident evil.Dropping the regular infectious T-Zombie seems way, way, WAY more effective than a Tyrant could ever be. A tyrant can be stopped by any kind of light vehicle weapon, might be worthwhole in urban warfare if you can mass produce them but I don't recall ever seeing more than 3-4 tyrants in once place, and even then all three of them died to a 2 second BRRT from an attack helicopter or something like that.Kind of like how the recent-ish Jurrasic Park movie had a whole sub-plot about making Raptors react to laser-pointed systems so you could point a laser marker at someone and have your Raptors jump them.How is this any kind of efficient, effective or worthwhile in any capacity other than a funny gimmick. I'd take Sergei with an AK over a very very very expensive dog.
>>84415385I will add to my comment here, as I imagine that Tyrants were intended to be fielded in larger numbers but preventing the tyrant-factory-from-working-good is likely a plot point in several games.
>>84415385Tyrants refer to a large number of extremely powerful BOWs. There are ones that shrug off rocket launchers with ease and others who get downed by attack helicopters or light infantry weaponry. There's no general "scale" between them outside of being extremely strong.
>>84415460>Tyrants refer to a large number of extremely powerful BOWs. There are ones that shrug off rocket launchers with easeTyrant generally means Tyrant, barring a few weird exceptions. Weird genetic compatibility with the t-Virus, big spooky zombie man of one fashion or another. While sometimes they eat a few extra rockets, generally they're getting hit with those rockets and it kicks off accelerated mutation. Some of the smarter late gen mass-production Mr. X style tyrants showcased the intelligence and speed to swipe RPGs out of the air, but that really won't help them against any smarter or less delayed anti-materiel system.You also have a few BOWs that follow no logic but display Tyrant-like features, but they still generally follow the same rules unless you're getting into dumb crap like the C-Virus.
>>84411053In a sense, yes - the game does have to be fun for the player, after all. The biggest threat in RE usually feels like it's the infectivity of the virus / parasite itself, rather than its BOW "byproducts". >>84415385Playing devil's advocate, but one of the few major advantages I think a hypothetical BOW could have over a tank / APC / conventional vehicle would be logistics. Modern vehicles need an array of specialized parts, munitions, tools and fuel to keep them working, with the associated industrial and economic costs. By contrast, most BOWs only seem to require biomass - much of which they acquire over the course of their operation. You wouldn't need vast supply chains of spare parts, tools and fuel to maintain them - just food and maybe medicine (if there even is any disease vulnerability in RE BOWs).This could make the BOW much more appealing to combat groups that might not have the military-industrial might of first and second world nations. Groups like third world militaries, PMCs, law enforcement and so on. Offshoots of brute-type BOWs could even see use in bluecollar settings, depending on the flexibility of the nation's morals.
>>84416371Another issue to consider with regard to the deployment of BOWs is that they give off very distinct infrared signatures. Inhuman BOWs will give distinct profiles entirely, and zombies would probably show up on one side of the other compared to normal humans depending on how their biology works.
What about an army of Nemesis? Basically a programmable blood hound that knows how to use weapons?
>>84416237With the C-Virus, you're just looking at it creating Tyrants and Tyrant-tier BOWs outright. And several of those BOWs could trsnsmit it via air particles. The extensive laundry list of bullshit it could do makes sense when you factor in that it literally only existed to turn people into mass-marketable weapons, then got modified by Carla Radames into the crux of her suicidal doomsday plot. Other viruses didn't need the sheer adaptive properties or destructive potential of the C-Virus because their goals weren't to kill everyone or create an on-demand army. At least, not at first.
BOWs do not seem particularly effective unless you have an overwhelming advantage already. I would argue Hunters are the absolute best BOW ever made since they are trainable, very effective combatants, can be reliably reproduced and fairly resistant to gunfire. Most of the other effective combat BOWs are either accidental mutations or too hostile / independent to actually deploy with anything beyond "shove it out of the chopper and fly off" as direction. In a 1v1 most grunts would get their head lopped off pretty quick rounding a corner and getting hit with that pounce attack.But soldiers, as a habit, do not travel alone. A fire team with even shitty Soviet bloc stuff would shred a Hunter well before it could get close. Standard battle rattle for most modern countries is six magazines + one in the rifle so right away every individual member of the platoon has 210 rounds, assuming they do not carry anything extra and do not have an attached machine gunner. Assuming a standard four man element they have 840 rounds of rifle ammo on hand and several hand grenades. The point of the above information is that a single fire team carries more ammo than you find for the handgun is most RE games and even intermediate rifle rounds completely shit all over the ballistic energy of a 9mm. It is beyond the scope of the games but once the cat is out of the bag on BOWs there will be specialized equipment made pretty quickly. Tactics will be adjusted to minimize casualties. You know what a BOW really can't do shit about? Being shelled from over the horizon. Having the building they are nesting in hit with mortar fire. Getting slapped by a Browning M2 that has two extra belts of ammo sitting in the vehicle. BOWs are only "really dangerous" if you are living in a hick town in the early 90s. Post AWB there are so many AR-15s circulating that I don't think a Tyrant would last long at all.
>>84417183Train the BOWs to use guns
>>84403027They were controlled with a parasite which... is controlled by other "master" parasites. Maybe it's more stable than the Ne-T Parasite as control units. But even assuming you could trust the host of the master strain: it's still not foolproof. In RE4 they already knew the weakness: Plagas communicate with ultrasound. Even if it It wouldn't be hard to generate ultrasonic noise. Which just leaves them to act on their own instincts. I doubt most would distinguish friend from foe on their own.
Point is, body horror kaiju aren't the real threat of the technology, human obsolesce is. What happens when not!Umbrella makes a perfect slave race and suddenly humans are unemployable and the slaveowners can have as large an army of jem'hadar as they can afford to protect themselves from obsolete humans who don't peacefully starve to death in accordance with the NAP?
>>84416794>mass-marketable weaponsWhich is stupid because if you've got Umbrella-level biotech, "wealth" essentially no longer exists as a meaningful measure of value. Its cyberpunk on the surface, but the corps and consumerism are just a thin veneer separating the plebs who want transient, temporary things like happiness, money, family, beauty, and so on rather than the absolute power and immortality offered by posthuman hypertechnological augmentation, the secrets of which are fought over by insane cyborg warrior cults who are the ones who actually run things. If anything it's a sort of anti-cyberpunk in that capitalism, along with every other -ism, has failed and been rendered irrelevant in the face of the very real possibility of living forever as home-grown ME Reapers. The accumulation of profit, building of a legacy and family, pursuit of fame and glory have all become means to an end rather than something intrinsically valued by anyone who matters. Megacorp executives are big fish in a small pond who don't even know how big things really get.
>>84418231Sounds a lot like Cruelty Squad.
>>84418231>>84418479I was thinking a more violent version of Charles Stross' Rogue Farm.>Read somewhere they’re the ones as think we aren’t fully human. Tools an’ clothes and farmyard machines, like? Sustaining a pre-post-industrial lifestyle instead of updating our genome and living off the land like God intended?
>>84418231Only Umbrellas higher-ups truly wanted immortality to become the supreme goslike ubermensch over all the world since that's Spencer's entire dream. The Family, the guys who made the C-Virus, just want to be on top when the inevitable war between nations using homegrown bioweapons begins and to reap all the p4ofits playing every side. And Miranda is basically already totally immortal and just wants to sit in her village experimenting until she can revive her daughter.In truth, all of the RE villainous factions have really petty and ultimately meaningless aspirations since with their level of tech and virus magic, they could easily become demigods to rule over the entire world.
>>84420570Alex Wesker is still out there, and I'm pretty sure that's what her deal is.
>>84420570The tech and virus magic can only go so far, though. Saddler had the most well-thought-out idea in that regard, and that was still a garbage fire. Turns out you need more than mutant monsters to take over the world. Morgan gets an honorable mention, because that SOB certainly made good use of everything for his power grab.
>>84415385>Dropping the regular infectious T-Zombie seems way, way, WAY more effective than a Tyrant could ever be.NO!First rule of Biological Weapons is you make DAMN sure it will kill who you want when you want it to and hopefully not a person more.Otherwise you might as well be using Chemical Weapons because WHY IN THE HELL WOULD YOU WANT A PERSISTENT, INDISCRIMINATE YOU HAVE NO MEANS OF COUNTER ACTING OR CONTAINING?!>>84416371>This could make the BOW much more appealing to combat groups that might not have the military-industrial might of first and second world nations. Groups like third world militaries, PMCs, law enforcement and so on. Offshoots of brute-type BOWs could even see use in bluecollar settings, depending on the flexibility of the nation's morals.Yeah, but at that point you're using the Bio-Tech that goes into your BOW to basically enhance quality of life the normal Bio-Engineering way; Improving existing or creating new Organisms to do something for human civilization.>>84417900>Point is, body horror kaiju aren't the real threat of the technology, human obsolesce is. What happens when not!Umbrella makes a perfect slave race and suddenly humans are unemployable and the slaveowners can have as large an army of jem'hadar as they can afford to protect themselves from obsolete humans who don't peacefully starve to death in accordance with the NAP?The Slave race rises up and overtakes their masters, that's science fiction 101 man...Now how we made them will decide what they do with us afterwards...>>84420570>In truth, all of the RE villainous factions have really petty and ultimately meaningless aspirations since with their level of tech and virus magic, they could easily become demigods to rule over the entire world.Well that is kind of the point, these eldritch "horrors" have always existed in their world, but are perfectly content to stay a part of the natural order until Humans start mucking with them.
>>84398883I'd imagine our governments could do this but more for their own entertainment to torment people as purely biological/mutant constructs are a terrible idea for militarization beyond maybe scaring the shit out of people to accept the NWO.Terminator/Borg, and Metal Gear Revengeance is more likely is because you want an adaptable army under complete control as well as being able to perfectly infiltrade and hide among civilian population centres. Giant unkillable zombie creations are stupid and cartoonish as well as clumsy. Theres no practical reason to make them beyond scaring the shit out of people or the Rothchilds going nuts and wanting to toy with people in some hunger games worlds most dangerous game sort of way.With genetic engineering tech you're more likely gonna see pic related than anything from resident evil besides people using them for Halloween or something.
Let's roll up some original BOWs.
Rolled 42 (1d100)>>84422369Ah hope its a parasite!
>>84417183I mean, you basically see what it looks like when a group of well prepared soldiers fight BOWs during Chris' part of RE 8.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp7XWLdy_5Y
Rolled 7 (1d8)>>84422441Sorry, no luck, it's a cyborg.>Rolling for base organism.
>>84422369Rolled using Google's die roller so I wouldn't have to wait 10 minutes to finish. The end result is a squad of small psychic multi-limbed bloodsucking waifus who breed by laying parasitic eggs in their victims and can blend into their surroundings like chameleons
>>84422784Of course I forgot the screencap
>>84422784>who breed by laying parasitic eggs in their victimsahaha oh noooo that sounds awful
>>84417183I dunno, those BOWs from RE4, 5 and 6 that run around with automatic rifles, body armour and grenades seem pretty dangerous. But at that point they're not really too different from super soldiers.
>>84422877Big difference being contagion. An army that “recruits” anyone infected with a disease and compels their loyalty would be massively overpowered.
>>84422877But are they dangerous because of the virus or because of the gun?
>>84422812If Tomoko knew about 40k, which faction would she play? And why is it Tyranids?
I knew RE was weird, but this is something else.At any rate, there is no need for anything else, when you have OOOOUUUROBOOOROS
>>84424351RE has always been at its best when it presents itself with a wink and a nudge. The missteps usually happen when it starts taking itself seriously.
Rolled 2 (1d8)>>84422652...and our secondary base organism is?
>>84424351Whats the best virus to infect yourself with?
>>84424302the j'avo are dangerous because they can do anything normal humans can do while being able to mutate in response to any trauma you inflict on them.
>>84427544T-Veronica assuming you have the time and capability to go into cryo for a decade.
>>84428073Ok, but you should also explain why.
>>84428097>standard Resident Evil final boss superstrength and durability>but you also get legitimate psychic powers, including pyrokinesis>and you can hotswap between normal human form and freaky monster form>also it cures cancer
>>84403227>...So why AREN'T they creating Giant BoWaifus?Because they weren't horny enough. Seriously after someone has been infected with a bow you could subject them to unlimited plastic surgery and there were some antidotes that stopped an infected from spreading what they had. Just turn any prisoner political or otherwise into a sex BOW programmed to fuck.
>>84399909And revelations if terrorists use BOWs
>waifus waifus waifus waifus Give it a rest already retards
>>84402940Eh, Tyrant are chonky motherfucker, WE see them (or variation of them) tank AT in the face, granted after two or three rocket they may start to berzerk and mutate randomly. They can be mean motherfuckers
>>84403207I think canonicly they managed to sold the Hunter Line (the weird frog/lizard mutant) pretty well, probably as a terror weapon to some african warlord. I remember text about the guys working on the Tyrant project seething because the Hunter was cheap (especially compared to the Tyrant) and relatively effective at it's task and they hated it. Argued that at least the Tyrant wasn't animal tier retarded.
>>84404646RE is very much a rule of cool, drop your brain type of story. Kind of a b-series thing going on
>>84406735Your hired. We need to recruit after half the team of Lab-8 got eaten by the dinos anyway.
>>84404646>setting has ancient tyrant lizards that used to be able to slaughter mammals as they pleased>also has all sorts of natural disasters and crazy events>narrative is mammals arguing over gooey black fluid
>>84402514>>84401514>>84401420I dont know about you guys but I'd say a unit going berserk and mutating into a more obscene crime against nature is a good feature.>Sir, a patrol was hit by an IED>Casualities?>Most of the squad. Their jeep took a bad hit and has mutated into something like a half track. Its killing any combatants or nearby civilians in the area.>Tell our troops to disengage the area. Monitor the Jeep. If it doesnt find a target it will probably dig a burrow in an abandoned building. >Anything else, sir?>...Gonna be like that, huh? Okay, dial up fiat-Chrysler. Time to borrow another anti-jeep gun that despite using lasers costs us 3 million to fire and then we have to give it back!
>>84429873Now instead of fighting your human enemies, you're fighting the monsters which were supposed to have been your armed forces.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNZNMf1isrk
>>84427544C-virus seems like a strong candidate but maybe>>84428073 >>84428193 if true
>>84424351OOOOOOOOOOUUUUROBOOOOOOOROS also happens to be an unreliable piece of shit that basically no one meets the qualifications for using at its full power. If you're one of the 1% of individuals who can actually genetically bond with it with no defects, you (supposedly) become a godlike ubermensch to rule the new world to come. Everybody else gets turned into a tentacle rape monster.
>*shatters a boulder with a punch*
>>84402940To be fair just about everything runs into the tank problem. Soldiers havent been able to defeat tanks since Vietnam. Tyrants and BOWs are a bridge between infantry combat and armored combat, not a replacement for armor.Another consideration is that almost all tyrant fights are them buck ass naked and straight out of the tube. The 'ideal' is them being fitted with heavy weapons and armor like you see in Nemesis or in Umbrella Chronicles.In 4,5,7, and 8 we see the BOWs actually trying their own schemes with no one controlling them.
>>84430050It's too bad that irl heavy weaponry would still absolutely fuck any kind of BOW
>>84403207They make the healing spray and grow the healing herbs.
>>84429873I'd disagree - consider the following.>Most of the squad. Their jeep took a bad hit and has mutated into something like a half track. Its killing any combatants or nearby civilians in the area.>What of the other vehicles in the convoy?>Under attack by the mutant. 2 hit, 1 beginning mutation process.>And the fuel trucks they were screening for?>They're trying to turn back, but the mutated vehicle is between them and the other escorts. We'd have to send them back vulnerable.Unless you're sending troops on solo, unsupported suicide runs into enemy territory, chances are the closest targets to the newly-mutant unit are going to be his former allies. If they have mutation potential as well, this seems like a gateway to a chain reaction that could cause major infighting just from one guy getting wounded.
>>84430019I'm going to murder that boulder-punching asshole.
>>84403273Swat it out of the way. That works pretty well most of the time.
>>84429223You actually get to see what the hunter was effective at in the attack on Terragrigia. Basically, pack-oriented shock troops that are capable of taking someone's head off in a single swing. Terragrigia was hit with the virus via crop-dusting, then hunters were deployed en masse.
>>84430160We know, Heisenberg
>>84403339>>84403555>>84403368I like to think that Miranda was under control of the megamycete and it wanted to create a perfect offspring or a more evolved fungi creature and Miranda rationalized this command as resurrecting her daughter. Miranda definitely wasn't human anymore and her daughter was dead before even contacting the fungus.I mean she has been a live for a over century, she infiltrated the Winters home so well he fucked her without knowing she replaced his wife, and she has had several opportunities to create her baby. She wanted the baby to be a fungus god and I think it really was what the big fungus wanted.
>>84429980Did anyone ever achieve that?
>>84403515>You are now envisioning Tyrant units in sequin speedos, riding into battle on roller skates and boomboxes blazing Its Raining Men.
>>84428348>Because they weren't horny enough. Seriously after someone has been infected with a bow you could subject them to unlimited plastic surgery and there were some antidotes that stopped an infected from spreading what they had. Actually Derek Clifford Simmons WAS that horny, he funded the development of the Chrysalid Virus to basically turn someone into a copy of Ada Wong, eventually succeeding with his lead Researcher Carla Radames who was as infatuated with Simmons as he was with Wong.This resulted with the literal Boobmonster BOW, the Lepotica, as well as the mentioned J'avo soliders.>Just turn any prisoner political or otherwise into a sex BOW programmed to fuck.Hell why waste it on potential enemies who could end up going Carla on you?C-Virus J'avo have already been notated to retain their sapience and become instinctively loyal to another C-Virus mutate.With a bit of work, you could turn yourself and your followers into a hive of sexy bug super ladies!>>84430050>Soldiers havent been able to defeat tanks since Vietnam.Man-portable AT-Missile says hi!
>>84430120I'm not sure how much of Resident Evil you've played, but the only really contagious viruses there produced terrible, borderline-harmless zombies and zombie animals. All the worthwhile BOWs that could menace actual soldiers, from Lickers on up, had to be specially-prepared.The Hierarchy of Bio-Organic Weapons basically goes something like this>one-of-a-kind hyperorganisms (Carla, Birkin, Alexia Ashford, Eveline)>final bosses that take years of prep and millions of dollars in engineering (Wesker, , Salazar, Mother Miranda, that guy from RE Zero)>"regular" bosses you could probably make for the cost of a new jet (Tyrants, Verdugo, Yawn, Ustanak)>advanced purpose-built BOWs (Hunters, Lycans, Regeneradores, J'avo, Plant 42)>"horde" BOWs meant as cannon fodder (Lickers, Ganados, Undertakers)>unintended byproducts of BOW exposure (Zombies, Cerberi, Globsters, Colmillos)>literal vermin (Chimeras, Leeches, Rats)Unless you've got Plagas/Ouroboros/Cadou available and can physically hold them down and infest them, the best you'll (usually) get are those lower two tiers. But that can still work in some cases, see pic related.
>>84404046Guess she really didnt want to repeat the potty training phase with another baby.
>>84429873>>84430210>>84422005>Schizo tech in my own setting arises from a certain set of factors.>The knowledge to make tanks exists>The infrastructure to produce them at any rate higher than a trickle does not>The blood of a god's corpse under the earth can be used to sculpt flesh and integrate it into machinery>The upper class of society has become tanks, bombers, and naval vessels (but mostly tanks) operated by disembodied nervous systems submerged in vats of god blood, each individual vehicle a unique, artisanally-crafted killing machine and invaluable to any nation, which otherwise equips its soldiers with equipment that looks straight out of the 13th century plus shoddy bolt-actions and revolvers because infrastructure has gone to shit.
>>84406012For all we know G could have had Birkin's mind the entire time but was just insanely angry.
>>84406012I think there's actually a theory that the Stairway of the Sun is atop the corpse of a dead alien and that it's sort of like Siren. Or maybe that's just headcanon I came up with when playing RE5.
>>84430313No, not even Wesker did despite the numerous augmentations made to him and the fact he's shrugged off various other diseases before. Though it admittedly took longer to start wearing him down than it did its other hosts, but the fact remains that it WAS eating at him.Uroboros is incredibly nasty stuff. To the point I suspect no one qualified for passing the mark and truly bonding with it.
>>84430366Gen 1 lickers were the end result of normal T-Virus infection. Given enough time all T-Zombies will turn into lickers, via V-ACT. C-Zombies had a similar effect if I recall correctly.The idea BOW I'd say is one that can mass infect a population, while still having them be easily controlled. Like an air dispersed worker plaga strain. Turn a whole enemy city into an allied army over night.
>>84430504Given modern RE canon you could say there was a fungal network further underground and that it was functioning via mycelium to activate the flowers, since it was a mix of the flowers and the location itself via some hitherto unknown means that was catalyzing the production of the progenitor virus.
>>84430515You're right, I forgot that RE Outbreak showed us the exact midpoint between Crimson Head and Licker. The C-Virus in 6 was twenty different kinds of clownshoes retardation. From what I recall, injection turns you into a J'avo who could mutate into a legit BOW basically whenever they want, but regular exposure to it transforms you into a normal zombie. But those zombies can somehow melt and glom together into Tyrant-tier threats sometimes, and sometimes exposure to the C-Virus transforms you into what is basically a swarm of meat-nanomachines. I don't use RE6 as a staple to identify what BOWs can DO for this exact reason.
>>84430504Siren was actually alien demons to be technical, but still. I could easily see Progenitor being the result of a massive hyperorganism like the Black God.
>>84430342We don't talk about RE6.
>>84430505The plot of Revelations 2 was basically Alex Wesker trying to fix her brother's failure in hat regard. One of the later bosses was a guy who nearly bonded with it.>>84430568Simmons, and Clara got shot up with like a Super C-Virus strain. I think. Because Clara was running around with that special syringe gun thing.
>>84430291>I like to think that Miranda was under control of the megamycete and it wanted to create a perfect offspring or a more evolved fungi creature and Miranda rationalized this command as resurrecting her daughter.Nah, like I said here >>84405199 and here >>84421825, Miranda's quest was likely fueled by her own neurosis. > Miranda definitely wasn't human anymore and her daughter was dead before even contacting the fungus.Supposedly she saw her child's memories when she first came into contact with the Megamycete...>I mean she has been a live for a over century, she infiltrated the Winters home so well he fucked her without knowing she replaced his wife, and she has had several opportunities to create her baby....But yeah, she should have easily been able to shove her daughter's memories into a new body, which I think she actually DID end up doing with the Eveline series, but rejected the result because Miranda was chasing the IDEAL of her ten year old Daughter instead actually wanting her Daughter back.Thus the rejected Evelines develop their parental complexes, one finds some good Mama and Papa candidates in Mia and Ethan and uses their Mold infection to basically rebirth herself as their real daughter Rosemary.As we see with the Four Houses, Miranda is actually a terribly ABUSIVE mother figure, so it's no surprise her own ambition overtook her actual goal.>She wanted the baby to be a fungus god and I think it really was what the big fungus wanted.While Rosemary Winters probably IS a Mold Goddess, that probably wasn't even a goal of the original Megamycete.Remember that it was sitting in a Cave in Eastern Europe probably since the dawn of Human Civilization, if not way earlier.It's even had it's own Civilization dedicated to it at some time in the past, yet it just sat there being a giant fungus.My guess is the nature of the Megamycete was "Live and let live."It's a nigh-immortal god-organism after all, why would it need to become MORE perfect?
>>84430657>Simmons, and Clara got shot up with like a Super C-Virus strain.So you're saying that Resident Evil is in an alternate version of the Contra universe?
>>84430658>why would it need to become MORE perfect?Keyword here is "nigh" immortal. It could die. Not very likely, but possible. Creating offspring as backups and destroying competitor organisms which could nuke it to death if they realized what it was are logical goals.
>>84430658>My guess is the nature of the Megamycete was "Live and let live."This is because it's infection of Ethan and probably The Duke resulted in beings who... just wanted to live semi-normal lives, and also why Rosemary Winters tries to keep her true power-level under wraps.>>84430366>>one-of-a-kind hyperorganisms (Carla, Birkin, Alexia Ashford, Eveline)>>final bosses that take years of prep and millions of dollars in engineering (Wesker, , Salazar, Mother Miranda, that guy from RE Zero)Eh, Eveline wasn't "one of a kind" but actually the last of a limited production series.It'd probably be best to switch her with Mother Miranda, who was sort of a one-of-a-kind fluke compared to her own experiments.>>84430568>n. From what I recall, injection turns you into a J'avo who could mutate into a legit BOW basically whenever they want, but regular exposure to it transforms you into a normal zombie.Well that was airborne exposure from a Lepotica, who basically is one of the few transfer vectors for C-virus (both regular Zombies and J'avo can't spread it via contact.)>>84430611>We don't talk about RE6.YOU WILL BECOME CUM WAIFU!!!
>>84430780I did that. Superorganisms all trying to out compete each other, while we puny mortals desperately try to keep the peace, and maintain a balanced super ecosystem.
>>84430807>I did thatFuck, I meant I dig that. I might do it too, incorporate some stuff like it into my current game.
>>84430780>Creating offspring as backups and destroying competitor organisms which could nuke it to death if they realized what it was are logical goals.OR it could become a helpful guide AND Merchant chilling in their cool shop wagon!
>>84430568The ones who turned into meat nanomachines like Carla and Simmons were infected with an Enhanced strain of the virus. It's why their transformations were far more violent and altogether different from any previous infectee.
>>84430780I mean, it took a village-busting bomb to actually kill it once Miranda died and prompted it to get off its ass. Sure, it could die, but that would require way more effort from anything short of a rival god-organism that it was unlikely.
>>84430950>anything short of a rival god-organism>killed by humansFuck yeah.
>>84430950>>84431041Now what if they were to COMBINE?!
>>84431041Any number of Resident Evil protagonists greater than 1 can be safely considered a rival god-organism.
>>84412003>Join the military>Private: Toilet scrubber specialist>Giant tumor ridden snake is my CO>Gives me shit everyday, literally, he regurgitates giant crap packets composed of digested goats or enemy combatants.>He looks me right in the eyes and flicks his tongue until I clean it up.
>>84415385>I'd take Sergei with an AK over a very very very expensive dog.What if the dog also>is armed with 10 x 20 cm deck guns, 4 x 12 cm dual purpose guns, 60 x 25mm AA guns, 4 x 4 torpedo tubes>had belt armor of up to 127 mm>had three floatplanes for scouting purposes>came with a masterwork broadsword folded over 100 times>was FAT>was your WIFEWould you still pick Sergei over her?trick question, a good WIFE doesn't feel threatened by your friends and understands that you sometimes want to spend time with them
>>84431441Sorry but if I'm going to waifu a ship, I want her to have a design that says "ten thousand tons of steel".
>>84416736That is actually the product Umbrella supposedly sells. They also sell the hunters, those big roach guys, and cerbusses.
>>84431549That design is giving me some Darling in the Franxx vibes. Really neat, but I wouldn't fuck it. Nor would I know where to start even if I wanted to.
>>84431765>Nor would I know where to start even if I wanted to.Weakness, your childe shall be a mewling babe grown with crooked back and stunted dreams
>>84420570Ironically Spencer wanted to make everyone immortal or at least enhanced. Wesker did as well but through getting an ouroboros parasite. The selling of monsters and viruses was just to spur research and testing in that field. Their end goals were humanity becomes super tough, ageless and, I'm assuming, very good looking.Also given how they made pharmaceuticals that were very, very handy when you are fighting monsters they are making money both ways.
>>84427544t+G virus+maintain full human intellect without having to spend decade as a popsicle+can generate biological electromagnetic fields strong enough to deflect bullets+your mutation will be based on your fetishes-your mutation will be based on your fetishes
>>84431572The fuck is the point in selling a cerberus? It's literally just a dog that drips everywhere.
>>84431441>>is armed with 10 x 20 cm deck gunsNot NINE 16 inchers!>>84432313>+your mutation will be based on your fetishes>-your mutation will be based on your fetishes...How is that a downside?
>>84432313>your mutation will be based on your fetishesIsn't that all the viruses? Also who is pick related
>>84427544G-virus if you don't care about losing yourself and just care about fucking everyone else over.
>>84432782The first mutated form of Morpheus Duvall, the villain of RE: Dead Aim. They then mutated into an blob of cancer.
>>84427544t-Abyss gets an honorable mention. You can in theory hold back the mutagenic aspect of the virus with sufficient willpower, and if you do eventually succumb and you have a sufficient surge of emotion at the time, you get a free upgrade into a tyrant variant. One of the more bullshit plot fiat moments in the series, honestly.
>>84432991Oh, and you also get a badass boss theme.https://youtu.be/VIOwc1OhRbc
>i am completely forgotten
>>84430950Dont we have a giant musgroom in the US?Maybe in res verse said giant mushroom is its rival or some such.
>>84433277The original novel was better.
>>84428097Telepathetic control of the virus or those it infects, retain your intelligence, superhuman abilities, and your blood ignites when it contacts the air.
>>84432597It's a very spoopy dogs that can tank a magazine (especially from non-main character mook who are weaker by narrative rules) in the torso and ignore pain. Also cheap because Umbrella almost make those as accidental, so basicly single use terror ammo that will maul whatever they launched at.
>>84433888>Also cheap because Umbrella almost make those as accidentalThey're contagious. Umbrella could sell one, then civilization would collapse from the uncontrolled zombie plague outbreak.
>>84429917>Thank you Umbrella customer, are you having trouble with your BOW? Is your BOW troubled with you?>Just remember FIRE! That's right, dont fight just FIRE:>Fuck>It>Run>Erratically>So next time a BOW mutates or just decides it hates your face dont fight, shout FIRE! And run away!
>>84433917Sound like a problem for the nerd at the lab to solve. Start production immediatly, Mr.Spencer want the first shipement for his friend Doctor M'nuabe ready before june.
>>84433917>>84434094Sir, we're not sure how this could have happened, but there's been a... complication... with the Cerberus line...
>>84430366Technically speaking the guy from RE0 was the leechmen you encounter through the game.
>>84430456That sounds like a combination of that Shed 17 thing and the Decipticons. That's cool stuff, btw.
>>84434288That's actually a completely different anon who posted my own post to this thread from where I originally posted it, and oddly enough I happened to have been lurking in both. I'm mildly flattered, and thanks.
>>84430834I thought the ducke was part of the Sponsors or whatever secret organization funded Mia to make Evelyne.
>>84433917There are no less than 3 different T-Vaccines. One developed by umbrella before the mansion incident. One developed by a random doctor in racoon city during the outbreak, and one developed by tricell with Jill's T-antibodies.An uncontrolled outbreak would never end civilization. Hell by the time Vendetta takes place random small scale outbreaks of zombies is such a common occurrence it takes them quite a while to figure out there's a plot going on. The T-Virus, and zombies are just a part of life in the RE universe.
>>84430950Obviously, that weakness to heavy mortar fire and two big scoops of C4 was keeping it from being perfect.
>>844332773rd Birthday aside PE had a lot of good ideas to steal. I could imagine a game set where certain people have very minor versions of Mya's power like being able to sense since AMTs but otherwise had to rely on good old fashion lead to put them down.
>>84432597>>84433917>>84433888I think the key selling point is that it drips viscera instead of dog poop. At some point your staff is going to be tired of all that dog poop, you know? Get a zombie Dobie and no more poop.I think an unsaid aspect is that hunters and Cerberus can infect victims which can create chaos when enemy combatants get wounded by them and return to enemy camps or headquarters. These wounded units can become zombies and attack other in the camp which could devastate a force.>Jon Doe gets a bad slash from a hunter attack/Cerberus caught him sneaking around.You can either:>Treat him and treat the poison so that is even less medicine for your operation weakening your position in the area.>You dont treat him at all and he becomes a zombie much quicker.>Treat his wound and not cure the poison. You hope he can fight it off normally. He doesnt and he eats several other men in the middle of the night when he turns.>You can shoot him then and there which at the least is a blow to morale.
>>84430050>To be fair just about everything runs into the tank problem. Soldiers havent been able to defeat tanks since Vietnam.The tank problem refers to the fact that tanks are big, heavily armored, expensive, but even when kitted to the gills can be taken out with a single shot from a man-portable weapon.https://youtu.be/kJ2djNORNfE
Probably the best thread on /tg/ in months
>>84430366Yes, but the contagion element isn't really being discussed here - my argument was that >I'd say a unit going berserk and mutating into a more obscene crime against nature is a good feature.>...killing any combatants or nearby civilians in the area.would be a serious vulnerability. If the soldier that mutates is working alongside other allies (which is most of the time), they'll be the closest and likeliest targets for the berserk mutant. Similarly, if those targeted allies also have the virus (by being preloaded with it like the first soldier, not by infection in combat), they would also mutate on being wounded. This could then cascade into a chain reaction of>Soldier gets injured, mutates and goes berserk>Attacks fellow soldiers>More soldiers get injured, mutate and go berserk etc.The perceived benefit of the berserk soldier attacking enemies after being injured would not be enough to outweigh the risk of him injuring other soldiers and causing a chain reaction.
>>84432782This dude after his fetish fluid injection.
>>84434387I mean, yeah. But note that we don't really see them attempt to fight the Black God once it's fully woken up. It's too big (the damn thing dwarfs even Simmons' final form by a few orders of magnitude). Enough C4 to blow away the entire village, surrounding castle and all, was what it took to finally bring it down and it technically still persists via Rosemary.
>>84401909 A pre Delta Green adventure book for the Cthulhu Now imprint titled "At Your Door" had an adventure where someone roided themselves into what was essentially a BoW.As for BoWaifu if Umbrella was in the secret business of wholesale manufacture of custom made companion chattel for bodyguarding and other excursions they'd need a reliable method to imprint and train product. Having White Umbrella getting into trouble not from releasing biohazards but instead cutting into the human trafficking market once BoWaifu economies of scale made their harvest more profitable would be a wild ride.You'd lose a lot of the b-movie horror when the eggheads are given the task of gestating battle geisha instead of Tyrants beneath decrepit mansions and move more into the ethical considerations of super soldier onaholes with soul. Though how that Baal Buddy operator met his very own Invincible Pursuer Type Girlfriend would make for an amusing backstory.
>>84433888Either variety of plaga dog would probably make for better weapons.>easier to control>can't infect shit>have tentacles/splitable head on top of just being able to bite shit
>>84432782Morpheus Duvall, aka "The only RE villain to literally try and make his fetishes into reality."
I play as what amounts to Umbrella in Stellaris and they're actually pretty strong. I'm a Criminal MegaCorp with the Permanent Employment civic, so I can plant illegal research facilities on foreign planets to conduct illicit biotech research without their knowledge and grow "mycozoans" on my planets to fill the low-skill manual labor jobs. I make tons of money and consumer goods through trade, enough to fund a deterrent fleet and maintain a sizable army of vat-cloned mycozoan soldiers.
>>84430342>VietnamWhat about Ukraine?
>>84443030What about it?
>>84443127o sorry imisread yourlst line,meant >>84430050
>>84436203Ok so tranny sephiroth kek
>>84436378>As for BoWaifu if Umbrella was in the secret business of wholesale manufacture of custom made companion chattel for bodyguarding and other excursions they'd need a reliable method to imprint and train product.Honestly doubt it'd be any harder than training a Tyrant; Mr. X specifically was given his hat in the remake to make him less conspicuous when used in Clandestine Operations so they were probably already working towards Bodyguard duty.>Having White Umbrella getting into trouble not from releasing biohazards but instead cutting into the human trafficking market once BoWaifu economies of scale made their harvest more profitable would be a wild ride.I mean, wasn't Umbrella ALREADY heavily involved in Human Trafficking?Those Human Test Subjects couldn't have all been Inmates after all...>You'd lose a lot of the b-movie horror when the eggheads are given the task of gestating battle geisha instead of Tyrants beneath decrepit mansions and move more into the ethical considerations of super soldier onaholes with soul.Eh, again I don't think Umbrella itself was too concerned about the ethics, and considering the more appreciable aesthetic their subjects in this version they'd probably be treated much better...Honestly that's where the horror of this situation would come from; BoWaifus wouldn't just have their incredible physical power but the massive amounts of Soft Power their comely appearance and proximity to influential individuals both within and outside of Umbrella would give them.They could easily end up leveraging these advantages to assume control of Umbrella ala Wesker, if not the entire world!
>>84445254Complete global masturbation.
>>84440577Get your ass back to /v/.
>>84398883Discuss continuing the Redfield bloodline.
>>84445254>I don't think Umbrella itself was too concerned about the ethicsThat's an incredibly soft statement, all things considered.Most hilarious.
>>84446589Clone Chris as a tyrant.
>>84446709To catch Leon or to fuck his own sister? Either way I see issues with this plan.
>>84446735The beauty of this plan is it doesn't matter if his sister actually fucks anyone or not! As if you can make one successful clone you can clone the clone hundreds or thousands of Redfields!
>>84446589>Discuss continuing the Redfield bloodline.>>84446709>Clone Chris as a tyrant.Clone Claire as a BoWaifu!
>>84446769Never mind then, that is genius.
>>84433277Some call it the sassy sister game to resident evil
>>84417900>What happens when not!Umbrella makes a perfect slave race and suddenly humans are unemployableWhat makes you think they need a full fledged slave race to make humans unemployable?
>>84430807https://www.orionsarm.com/eg-topic/48027fa6c4c18>Macrospecies are known on several worlds, and they will often fill an available environment to exclusion of other species. Sometimes competing macroorganisms interpenetrate each other's territories and come into conflict, while in other cases the macroorganisms enter various forms of symbiosis or commensalist relationships. Sometimes more conventional speciation occurs on these worlds, and the lesser species enter into symbiotic relationships with the macrospecies. On occasion the macrospecies will co-opt the genetic material of their symbiotes, until the independent species are themselves absorbed into the macrospecies genepool.>On Kammerer the selection process, which decides which gene collections are to be expressed and which are not, appears to have started to select for increased intelligence approximately a hundred million years ago. The ecologies on this world swap genes around like viruses, and several million years ago several ecologies became intelligent enough to self-modify the elements of the ecology at will.>Less than two million years ago there were at least three advanced intelligent ecosystems on this world; two ground-cover steppe macrospecies and one forest-like species. However during a conflict which occurred on a worldwide basis the two ground-cover macrospecies were eradicated or suppressed, and are now managed by the victor, the so-called Festuca sophonce. This entity, an ecology covering an entire continent, appears to have attained a self-awareness and intelligence approximately equal to a first-level transapient (albeit a rather solipsistic one), but some of the self-designed species are also comparable to humans in intelligence.
>>84446832Tyrants need their bonus accessories.
>>84430050>Soldiers havent been able to defeat tanks since Vietnam.Genuine retard.
>>84433277I was a big fan of the original's soundtrack, also Aya was super hot.
>>84445254Then BoWaifu coomsumer it is up to YOU to barnstorm and brainstorm the first run post prototype pummeling pulchritudinous packmates. Initially I'd imagine their not yet perfected forms would be the bear sized burka clad assistants to rich oil princes whose blatant wealth propels BoWaifus into the public eye. As for them ever having the ambition to conquer their progenitor corporation Umbrella there likely would be Directive Four style hypnotic and behavioral conditioning they'd have to overcome. Now sedan sized whispers and human intermediaries for BoWaifus trying to find ways to jailbreak their mega mavens might have some simp fueled espionage. Also understand that the other dark biomagical life is bubbling away in their own forgotten corners with incomprehensibly myoptic B-Movie prerogatives.https://youtu.be/Tr3t1uZNbKo?t=41
I will take any virus that will turn me into a Guyver with all the powers intact.
>>84448674>Now sedan sized whispers and human intermediaries for BoWaifus trying to find ways to jailbreak their mega mavens might have some simp fueled espionage.Ah but as I alluded to before, some of that simp espionage might stem from the very Scientists creating the BoWaifus, most likely to turn them into the perfect Mommy Doms.Thus their conditioning might have plenty of deliberate loopholes from the beginning, plus there is always a chance the BoWaifus become... CREATIVE... with their interpretations of their directives ala I, Robot.
>>84448831You've got a nine foot tall killing machine that looks like Russ Meyer and R Crumb got to play God and you're selling it as a big tiddy bullet sponge for lecherous VIPS? The service costs for that industrial ingenue are going to rival that of a full bodyguard team. How do you initially convince the secret conspiracy of White Umbrella, which we are assuming you're hypothetical researcher staff of, and eventually the public facing Umbrella that these vast tactical tracts of land are worth the investment?So it's 1995 or so given the foundation of T-Virus research at the Spencer Mansion and you're going to push the violent Venus of Willendorf BoWaifu project instead of Tyrant or the more economical gator Hunters?A I F U also needs an abbreviation. Bio Organic Weapon Assault Infiltration Fighting Unit might work in marketing.
>>84448831>there is always a chance the BoWaifus become... CREATIVE... with their interpretations of their directives ala I, Robot.>>84282172>Honestly I'd actually be super down for a full on waifupunk post-apocalyptic setting, where the genetically engineered catgirls fight over the last remaining humans. They'd serve as part strategic interest, and part religious icon (in this scenario the catgirls would be engineered to enjoy serving, and be depressed in the absence of human masters).
>>84449462>How do you initially convince the secret conspiracy of White Umbrella, which we are assuming you're hypothetical researcher staff of, and eventually the public facing Umbrella that these vast tactical tracts of land are worth the investment?Honestly I think that'd be an easier sell than the Tyrant project; Spencer, Marcus, and Ashford all wanted to use their viral researcher to create a master race of Super Humans and BOW were just one of the means of monetizing that research.While Hunters make decent shock troops, they're only mildly intelligent enough to seek targets, and as we've seen elsewhere in the franchise the BOWAIFU could be easily made a Command and Control unit for Hunters as well as operating as clandestine agents.
>>84427544Whatever Alice has
I'm frankly shocked they haven't made an RE spin off game where you play as a tyrant in the same vein as that RE7 DLC where you play as joe or a tactics XCOM rip off.
>>84456179There's one where it's 4 players versus 1 mastermind player who can spawn in traps and enemies. You can play as the spawned enemies, albeit maybe not what you had in mind.https://youtu.be/znnpwb2_g_w?t=362
>>84456179>>84456553Isn't that just Evolve?
>>84457662You waifued the wrong girl.
>>84455936So BOWAIFU is just roaming the battlefield in their ablative bathrobe and slippers taking their terror gator babies out for walkies?
>75% of thread is the same retard posting about waifus while avatar fagging
>>84459125>So BOWAIFU is just roaming the battlefield in their ablative bathrobe and slippers taking their terror gator babies out for walkies?Yes.
>>84433277That's not really a bioweapon game, that mitochondria deciding that the time of nucleotide domination is over. It's basically about a bunch of collaborators helping to put down a slave revolt.
>>84459840>That's not really a bioweapon gameSequel counts, for whatever it's worth.https://youtu.be/QptybD4UhJM
>>84456553>albeit maybe not what you had in mind.I literally stated what I had in mind and no, the 1v4 asymmetric horror game is not it.>Condemned-esq survival horror where somehow sapient tyrant is trying to leave abandoned and overrun umbrella lab and primary weapon and sometimes puzzle solver is fist>definitely not!XCOM turn based or even real time tactics game of controlling mixed bioweapons anti-terror squadMastermind is a neat idea but not at all the money printer i'm thinking of, especially since jake solomon decided to make the shitty marvel mobile XCOM leaving a gap in the market for people wanting a new tactics game that isn't shit.
>>84449462>How do you initially convince the secret conspiracy of White Umbrella, which we are assuming you're hypothetical researcher staff of, and eventually the public facing Umbrella that these vast tactical tracts of land are worth the investment?High end Umbrella without the dual handicaps of Complete Mental Retardation /Wesker and arbitrary plot limits can basically do anything. They're richer than God and Walmart combined, can buy off entire goddamn governments, casually nuke/biobomb cities, and produce enormous viral Kaiju just to max out their budgets before the end of the month. They could build space ships and engineer new sapient species and pretty much take over the world in an afternoon if they wanted.Competent Umbrella with unity and focus is an Umbrella that's basically already won. And all the bishie blondes or dudes with biceps the side of monster truck tires in the world won't change a goddamn thing.What happens next? Corporate warfare. Of the most literal sort. As stated above Umbrella unified has enough power to literally reshape the world however you want. You can outfit entire armies. Make the global economy dance and twist human DNA past the breaking point. But it's not unified. I'm just one CEO of many. Maybe I'm a researcher who clawed my way up and I'm intimately aware of what Umbrella's BOW's are capable of but I got lucky and skipped out on the Purge by virtue of being one of the people leading it. Maybe I'm a younger guy from Old Money and I got my shares when daddy dearest kicked the bucket and now I'm being thrown into a world I don't understand. Maybe I was just a minor bureaucrat who climbed up the chaos that was Umbrella's laddah ladder to make CEO rank, and now I'm sitting pretty on top of my own little corporate pyramid.
>>84460741Point is that however I got where I am, there are dozens of other people just like me heading up the other branches. With access to the same resources I do. To the same technology I do. And sure, yeah, going into this we were unified. Spencer was as corrupt and repressive as a human being can get, promoting his favorites and feeding those he disliked to mutant monsters. We all had a vested interest in overthrowing him and purging the company of his legacy. We had a shared goal, a clear goal, but past that? What do we really have in common? Not a whole lot honestly and we've all got different visions for what this new world should be.Some people are going to think that the only problem with Spencer's idea of biological apotheosis was that it had Spencer at the top and really wouldn't their name look so much better on that dotted line? Some people are going to think that we need to work with the governments, with the nations of the world in order to protect humanity from the tide of BOW's and rogue scientists starting to flood the market (which are kinda completely our fault). Some people aren't so interested in the philosophy side of things, the ethical and moral debate, they just want to set up their own little empire and rule it like a goddamn king of old with all the luxury and decadence you can imagine; the kind that Spencer never would've tolerated.
>>84460741>>84460749So maybe...in this scenario I'm not a bad guy but I'm not exactly pure either. I'm not using African orphans as test subjects or unleashing BOW's on civilian centers or anything but I've got plans. I've got big plans. I've got a vision. I believe in the collective biological ascension of mankind to a new form of life, a better form of life. One that can survive in a world that's taking the first unsteady steps towards ecological collapse and maybe, in time, on new worlds; other worlds. One that ideally's got sick tentacles and armored scales and awesome claws and maybe some goddamn bilateral symmetry would that really be too much to ask R&D would it really?So I start headhunting researchers and scientists to add to my collection. I start building up a base of operations that's mine and nobody else's, start ingratiating myself with the local government because hey the vault's been thrown open and the coffers are free for the taking. Maybe there's still some semblance of unity going on at this point even as we all start warily eying each other so I begin recruiting from Umbrella's paramilitary forces. From the better parts of the UBCS. As many of the USS units and trainers as I can manage. Outfit and equip them with the contents of one of Umbrella's company arsenals that whoops slipped through the Purge however did that happen?I begin working on enginebeasts and designer monsters, the most promising avenue of development from my perspective. I plan out ways to maybe create a new sapient life form and a way to bump up baseline humans to its standard.But now I start butting up against the plans and visions of the other CEO's. We're competing for the same resources, the same brainpower. The same shreds of the company.It probably wouldn't take all that long for what starts as a Cold War to turn hot. For us to turn our armies and our weapons and our proxies and patsies against each other and start ripping apart the world in the process.
>>84459840Im so glad I dont suffer from autism
>>84460758Thank you for the excellent and well thought out summary of your 1995 beginnings to later open wound of BoW propelled balkanized Umbrella warfare. As a framework for a tabletop campaign this has a lot of potential especially with something like the Cyberpunk 2020 roles so you could assemble your team and attempt to leverage your way to virus laden victory.I enjoy how this leaves the moves of your rivals as something that must be considered with each generation of living weaponry being introduced to the market or battlefield.
>>84460741>>84460749>>84460758OP here, after multiple days of waifuposting i am immensely pleased to see my vague idea articulated in a far more competent way thank you
>>84460741>Competent Umbrella with unity and focus is an Umbrella that's basically already won.>Corporate warfare. Of the most literal sort. As stated above Umbrella unified has enough power to literally reshape the world however you want. You can outfit entire armies. Make the global economy dance and twist human DNA past the breaking point. But it's not unified. I'm just one CEO of many.>>84460749>Point is that however I got where I am, there are dozens of other people just like me heading up the other branches. With access to the same resources I do. To the same technology I do. And sure, yeah, going into this we were unified.> Some people are going to think that we need to work with the governments, with the nations of the world in order to protect humanity from the tide of BOW's and rogue scientists starting to flood the market (which are kinda completely our fault).>>84460758>So maybe...in this scenario I'm not a bad guy but I'm not exactly pure either. I'm not using African orphans as test subjects or unleashing BOW's on civilian centers or anything but I've got plans. I've got big plans. I've got a vision. I believe in the collective biological ascension of mankind to a new form of life, a better form of life. One that can survive in a world that's taking the first unsteady steps towards ecological collapse and maybe, in time, on new worlds; other worlds. One that ideally's got sick tentacles and armored scales and awesome claws and maybe some goddamn bilateral symmetry would that really be too much to ask R&D would it really?I don't know boss, you seem pretty saintly compared to most...>I begin working on enginebeasts and designer monsters, the most promising avenue of development from my perspective. ...What I do question is why you think this is the angle that will give us the edge.BoWaifus may be a lurid application of our advance resources, but beautiful Super Women Protectors are a damn sight more palpable to the public than monsters.
>>84460758Gestalt consciousness means identity loss and possibly total death of the ego. So such a consciousness would be either one individual or absolutely stupid.
>>84461776Honestly I feel our corporate ground game should focus more on our consumer outing; If everyone else is going to be flooding the market with BOW's, being the guys making Med Kits is going to put us in nearly everyone's good graces.I'm not entirely sure what an "Engine Beast" is suppose to be, but if it's suppose to be an enhanced Beast of Burden then it might work, though that might put us up against Monsanto and while I may be an Insane Scientist, I'm not THAT suicidal!
>>84461504>>84461540>>84461884Factions of the Umbrella civil war:>Our protagonists. Purveyors of Genetically Engineered Catgirls For Domestic Ownership and other profitable non-military applications of Umbrella's biotech to any oil sheik and oligarch who can drop a few million for a waifu. The heroes, insofar as their business model is dependent upon humanity and civilization as we know it continuing to exist so the money they're paid continues to have value.>Old guard who want to kill everyone with undead armies then rule over a race of brainwashed clones as living gods.>Some body snatcher conspiracy replacing the wealthy and politically powerful with clones or infesting them with mind-controlling parasites.>Superhumans with a Master Race complex.>People who think a biotechnological war of Mutually Assured Destruction is inevitable and want to preemptively escape the crossfire by turning themselves into off-brand tyranid hiveships and leaving the planet.
>>84462192Don't forget just plain ol' powermongers who want to carve out some chunk of the earth where they can rule as insane dictators. I imagine they'd be less of a faction and more a classification for a collection of various groups scattered across the map.
>>84462192>>84462218I would play this board game. Make it happen, /tg/.
>>84466656Make a prototype 2d sketch of the board in GIMP, then import it to Tabletop Simulator as a large tile or token.Make or source some placeholder art for characters and import them into TTS.Make cards if the game uses cards and import those.Then get to play testing.
>>84466656>>84468161What ruleset? Should it be fluffed as literally resident evil, or lawyer-friendly expies?
>>84471099I'd say do something unique. Gives more wiggle room too.
What should we name the factions? Should they be making literal zombies or something original?
>>84471290I'd say let the name come after. But if we run with original ish idea could be that the corp was broken up and all ended up in patent wars and using their various bio-programs to their own ends. And I'd say Zombies are must though maybe not everyone has zombie producing abilities.
>>84471290>Should they be making literal zombies or something original?>>84471578>And I'd say Zombies are must though maybe not everyone has zombie producing abilities.Or aren't making the same "Zombies."
>>84471729bruh you are actually just /d/-tier fetishposting right now. At least pretend to try and keep the mask on.
>>84471749Annoyingly though he does have a good point. We've got regular T-virus shambles, we've got plagas type smart drones etc.
One of the better threads on /tg/ in recent memory.
>>84462218>>84462192That sounds pretty good. I'm certain some warlord or dirty politician would want to mutate himself and rule his territory like king kong on skull island.
>>84471808>We've got regular T-virus shambles, we've got plagas type smart drones etc.Different flavors of zombie is fine but he ruined his credibility with his choice of pic. That said yeah, different factions having different basic ground troops makes sense. I see it as a sliding scale of hordes of mindless zombies to barely functional retard parasite hosts to living human mercs basically.
>>84471889Makes sense. I'd say we treat it kinda like a tech tree. Each faction has a core vital/parasite type that they cultivate. Some might be working as 'damage control' against their sibling corps as BOWS are deployed to take out Corp heads, key black sites etc.
>>84471749>bruh you are actually just /d/-tier fetishposting right now.>>84471808>Annoyingly though he does have a good point.>We've got regular T-virus shambles, we've got plagas type smart drones etc.>>84471889>Different flavors of zombie is fine but he ruined his credibility with his choice of pic.Hey the B(imbo)-Virus may not create effective soldiers, but that's the entire point!If you turn the enemy into sexy thots too horny to think straight, like regular Zombies they won't be able to put up much resistance, but UNLIKE Zombies you can rehabilitate Bimbos.I mean we're already working on applications to restore and enhance cognitive function anyways, why not use it to rebuild transformed enemies into loyal consumers?Hell, the real life US Air Force approached this concept with the theoretical "Gay Bomb."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_bomb