>>373162
Bowties are here
https://youtu.be/r3ubLOKbx-Y

>>373162
Finally its back, the coppers are here

>>373162
Alright, loyal trees here. Let's get this rebellion crushed.

Sunbros ww@

Bowties represent

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turn 13 end!

The people of the Sun went back to work on their wall, and effectively finished it.

The shamans tried to expand their magic arsenal with intense prayers but their current methods and customs (and clothes?) prevent them from going further yet.

The Leather Shamans from the copper tribe have started a new and popular school of magic, that combines pleasure and self inflicted pain to keep an edge.

>>373231
intredasting

>>373231
So we did accidently make bdsm suns.

>>373243
You probably gave them the ability to research blood magic.

>>373243
Honestly not that big of a surprise

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>>373231
The Maiden sent ships full with weapons and supplies to the treelands as soon as they heard of the rebellion. Some maiden even went with the boats to help with the tactics!

lame attempts were done to use the dried blood of old battlefields for magic with no success. However blood magic is a trendy interest right now and the Witching Child and her suite are getting more powerful. They can discover magic on their own given time.

The Sun Ambassador was asked to use his bird to scout the orclands. Though it is not his job, he didn't see a reason to decline and accepted the request.
He saw many lowly populated orc camps, and a lot of smoke far to the west before his bird got eaten by a raptor.

>>373312
COPPERS GET OUT
RIGHTFUL TREE CLAY
REEEEEEE

>>373312
>raptor
oh shit
dinosaurs

>>373326
>Trees look over Tree City
>See Rebels have made tree wall
>OUT OF CUT DOWN TREES

>>373332
I want to see this happen.

>>373350
Maybe they can beat down the rebellion by going crusade crazy over trees.

>>373356
Inb4 they burn down the trees forest.

Rolled 94, 16 = 110 (2d100)

good ol' rat fighting:

attackers:
attacking(-20) + siege engines(+20) + troop quality (+25) = +25

defenders:
defending: hills(+10) + troop quality(+20) + tactics(+20) + numbers(+30) = +80!

>>373361
HOLY SHIT BOIS

>>373361
The rats just cant get a break with these rolls

>>373361
>Rats roll 119
Holy shit! I hope its them rebels getting attacked.

>>373383
That's The Bowties attacking The Rats.

>>373389
Oh shit man, you fucking destroyed them rats then.

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>>373361
the Queen left the ratlands with the young grandson of the Marquis of the Septentrion and the North some day, taking all her clique of skeletons, servants and guards with her. The Marquis' troops were left behind, with a few of his own allies. This greatly struck the morale of his troops, feeling their Goddess left them for petty romance.

But the Marquis didn't back down. He knew going further into rat territory would only get harder with time as the rats improve their already formidable defenses. So he decided to attack immediately!

The Marquis got the Queen's blessing to use the inquisitors for his military actions, which greatly displeased the Inquisition, but they have no choice except comply.

The attack started terribly bad for the bowties: the prepared rats had set up cannons along their walls to disrupt the tightly packed shield formations while waves of skeletons rushed into the action and a hail of gunfire rained on the confused mass!

... But the Marquis, with a spearhead of armored guards, inquisitors, and the bravest of his troops, rushed to the walls to burn a way in. They then climbed the walls and killed the cannon crews and necromancers where they found them while the rest of the troops engaged the rats' main force, keeping them too busy to chase the bowtie commander's group on their spree!

The rats were routed. Many died in the Marquis' army, but morale was very high after such an heroic victory!

The territory didn't expand much beyond the wall, though. The Marquis requests reinforcements to do so but the Queen has been very quiet.

can I get an updated tree recap

I can't make any sense of any of the two factions' posts in last thread

>>373488
Treetards, too tardy for Opee

>>373488
First I got a question, Do we still have some of the navy? I know it was slowed down because of the mercs wanting thier own cash, but that was a while ago.

>>373505
you have a navy, just not your Grand Navy of Yore. it's worse than the copper navy but it's decent.

>>373468
>the Queen has been very quiet.
Depose Shotacon with Loli Queen when.

>>373512
ALright Im going to say we that since we cant really get a blockade going we :

Action: make gaurd outposts with fire brasiers at the top to be lit during an attack as an early warning system.

Action: Start propaganda campaign against the rebels.

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>>373488
Action: ask other nations to either not buy from the tree government or to increase the tariffs on tree imports to weaken the government's economy, making them less effective and having less control over mercenaries.
Action: contact the female super assassins to go after the loyalist generals. With this, their morale will plummet and they'll lack the will to fight.

MAKE TREES GREAT AGAIN

>>373512
Maybe you should just make The Tree Turns two part, or have rebels be separate, because they're never going to agree on what to do.

>>373564
we are already seperate.

>>373533
>Realize that that braziers is spelled with a Z instead of an S
>We could be burning bras at the top of these outposts

But just to clarify its supposed to work like these things http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Warning_beacons_of_Gondor

>>373611
>not burning varieties of undergarments on your outposts

>>373611
[DAMAGE CONTROL INTENSIFIES]

>>373640
t. filthy colluder who needs outsiders to help him destroy the land once again.

>>373651
Being xenophobic and misogynistic is no way to run a country.

alright I'll make the tree update and event tomorrow earlier than usual because I'm tired and overall a lazy piece of ass

see you tomorrow!

>>373651
Ey, if anybody's gonna destroy da land it's gonna be usss

>>373659
See ya you poo poo eating lesbian frog

>>373659
Oh god dammit, it's been two weeks and four delays.

>>373658
countries were run that way for thousands of years. Some still are, who are you to say they are wrong.

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>>373672
It's better than nothing

>>373674
The Trees are outdated, just like your government. Everyone can see why you focused everything on suppressing instead of just investing into technology.

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>>373659
Well have a nap...

>>373684
t.person who didn't invest into technology on their turn.

>>373684
They're pretty much Tribals living in The Medieval era.

>>373711
Maybe you didn't see the Maidens supporting us on their turn. Unlike you, they've got far better armor, weapons, warriors.

>>373711
You're both treetards, not investing in technology is proabbly in your blood

>>373726
W estill have the numbers against you. And in case you havent noticed the big tactic we use is cavalry archers. Which means we unless you can pace our boars we are going to avoid melee fights and just run around shooting arrows into you mongolian style.

>>373752
>Cavalry
>In a forest
That's how Rome beat The Mongols the first time.

>>373752
Boar archers don't do so well in a siege. Trust me, Khergits are shit at defending their cities.
t. Mount & Blade

>>373764
>Rome
>fighting the Mongols

>>373770
we dont even have castles man, we have motte and bailey type structures at best.

>>373799
The Mongols aren't The Huns.

>>373804
so how can you say that rome beat the mongols if they only fought the huns? Plus the mongols conquered Rus, which was covered in forest as well.

>>373813
Weird, I thought The Huns came later.
Either way, they bet them because when you put cavalry in trees they lose mobility, which is literally the only thing they have going for them.

>>373828
I suppose so, but then again we have the tactical advantage of being accustomed to fighting and living in a forest with our cavalry, so I dont think our cavalry has too much of a drop in mobility if any at all.

>>373869
Considering that you're the defenders you'll always have a good advantage over anyone trying to attack, but I still think that cavalry isn't good for defending, nor for forest fighting. You got ents though and have spent half the game increasing policing and defense, so balls to anyone who tries to take you anyway.

>>373752
I'm unsure as to how this turn will turn our to be, but for our next turn, I'd suggest that we either train our people with the golden maidens as warriors or with the sabetuers, and as a second action we undermine the trees power further by either further disruptimg trade by attacking their trade routes therefore increasing our funds and destroying their moral and can be used to buy the mercenaries from them, or we can use the action to develop gorilla tactics or to groom one of our people to become a great military or sabetuer asset.

>>373948
as reminders, the maidens are extremely good at defence, can creat great weapons and they probably got some cavalry knowledge and some machine knowledge from talking at the celebrations we've been having

>>373371
>>374997
oh and ITS GOOD TO BE BACK, do we wait for the world event for our action? looks like investing on blood won't do any good right now

>>375006
Just an idea for the orcs, since they're out fighting we could send an attack to finish off the orcs/what their fighting? Or perhaps build a trump wall? Either way we have breathing room to deal with the orcs that we should capitalize on right now since their in a bad position and they have very few troops near the copper borer.

>>375320
It all depends on the rolls anon
Lets build a wall though and build a train

>>376039
Oh yeah, it's been a long time since we've been together so I almost forgot.

Why do you want a train when you have a huge river that stretches right down the middle of your nation?

>>376423
Because Drink

I don't even know what to do anymore

Any copper goyim agree with

Action: Build a defences and walls on our western border against the orcs

Tech: Springs and bits for suspension for our cars and maybe steering

>>376469
We shouldn't just make defenses and walls we should make a great wall like the bowties only on our Western border to eliminate the threat of orcs. But yeah I agree with the wall.

Instead of steam maybe we should work on our population? We only get 1k a year right now. Maybe have hospitals become widespread to keep people from dying from various things?

>>376490
Well fuck
Then do that

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>>373195
h-hey

>>376568
ayy

>>376490
What increases pop growth anyway?
I know more food does
Does more medicine do it too?

>>376593
I'm sure medicine would considering the coppers lifestyle with all that fighting and ritual scarring. So really it would increase faster on the account of less people dying.

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The civil war started calmly.

The loyalists focused on their legitimacy to boost the morale of their troops and cohesion of their people. Guard posts were established and guard shifts lengthened.

Meanwhile, with the help of the copper maiden's influence, the rebels stopped trade between the copper engineers and the loyalists, cutting their source of copper and weakening their potential forces.
The spies were sent to assassinate more generals. Some were succesful, but most did not have that chance now that the loyalists know what to expect. The loss of some of these women is tough on the rebels, as they are their driving force.
The rebels are also suffering minor raids from the rats, likely to test their defenses.

>>377502
HAHAHA
Looks like Im a loyalist

AYY BABY
IMMA BEAT MEH WIMMINZ

>>376469
>>373488

>>377517
Are you trying to link a turn that all the actions we dont agree on? Really?

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event: They Are Back!
The copper scouts saw the orks leave their homes running before towering black figures. They seem to go towards the copper lands! The scouts ran home stricken with fear, knowing that they just spotted the Dominators of yore.

At the beginning, before men were divided in factions and clans, there was but one nation of humans, united under the rule of the cruel Dominators, evil giants of immense power that played war against each other endlessly. They left mysteriously eons ago. Until now!

As if summoned, the Sea Queen went out of the sea in person to deliver her message to every port. "It seems your old masters are back earlier than expected, humans! How tragic. But there is still hope for you! Together, we can beat these ugly fellows back to where they came from. All I ask for is your loyalty. Pledge your arms to me, save your people!"

The mermaid did not bother going to the Bowtie shores, knowing the answer the Queen would give.

turn 14 start!

recap anchor post

>Goes to shore
>Tells people about old masters
>A resounding, "Who?"
>She was lying the whole time

>>377557
Were in another ruse scenario, looks like we'll have to work together again like the volcano. Question is if we'll get tricked again. That makes me not want to work with the witch and try diplomacy on them first.

>>377545
Action: Train with the maidens, so our fighting skill can equal and/or beat the loyalists.
Tech: Begin investing into copper weapons and armor now that we have Maiden help.

>>377539
Ooooooh boooy

>>377522
Well nigga we need a turn

I Said do the shit and nothing was done and that was 5 hours ago

Aight, who Suns here, what's our turn?

>>377713
You said and I quote
>well fuck
>do that then
I assumed you wanted to do my suggestion and my post would ne linked when the recap came. Now we need to change it because we have giants marching on us now.

>>377746
Yep
In the end nothing matters.. we all dead

>>377775
Not exactly yet, one action could to mobilize EVERYONE engineers, maidens, warlords, give the old and weak crossbows, then just wait. Second action could be to try diplomacy with those guys, see if the sea witch is spouting bullshit. Then use the embassy to tell the suns about them.

>>377786
The maidens are fighting the trees

We need allies

>>377788
Not fully, they're supplying them and few maidens actually went. They also have the advantage of the Witching Child still there too. The embassy was so the suns know and if they want they can help. Maybe even have them tell bowties also if things get really bad.

>>377539
Can I talk to the Queen?
If I can

In the roughest engineer sailor voice possible
"Ayy Sugartits den some noice tiddies..
Tell ya' what.. If we join you then you have to marry into the copper nation and provide us with heirs and magicians"

>>377788
I think we should probably consult the Elves in order to see what they think of the giants, after all we know how the sea witch can fuck us all over if we dont look at the situation from all angles.

As for the rebellion, maybe we can set up bouties, rewarding any man woman or rat how can get us the heads of the rogeue assassins?

>>377665
Honestly not sure, we did work with the Sea Queen before and from the sun peoples perspective she hasnt done anything wrong, so i guess we trust her?

>>377886
I mean what's the worst that could happen? A sunken continent instead of an island? Hah.

Anyway, I was thinking about improving our magics, since Opee said something about clothing. The Sun Shamans of old didn't have clothes on, so maybe we should have shamans pray fucking hard, while naked. This may also lead them into be fucking hard.

>>377899
Well ill say yeah to naked praying
I guess yeah to the SeaQueen

For our other action I say we give the female shamans something to do, not sure what yet. Maybe research into ways to enhance the body with alchemy?
Like lotions that get you swole

>>377899
What if The Continent do sink, and all that's left is mountain Tops.
AND THEY BECOME ISLANDS

>>377928
Yes, but let's not jump the gun juuuust yet.

LEt's just improve ourselves a bit first. Having dude shamans shed their clothes and resume zealous prayer and having female shamans research ways to improve our bodys through their aptitude in medicine and alchemy.

>>377941
I guess we will be playing rat civ if that happens.

>>373468
We pulled off the greatest historical battle that The Bowties have ever seen, and succeeded against the worst odd possibly all of history had ever seen, and The Queen ignores us to fuck children.

Well if she wants to be so damned quiet then we will as well.

She can stay in her home and deal with whatever child pandering she wishes, for we will be greater. We're building a new home for The inquisition.

We're moving them OUT of The Capital, and moving them into a massive fortification along The Rat Conquest where they can do their jobs and fight Necromancers Beyond The Boarder.

Enlist Rats to gather The Stone, put out greatest men on perfecting construction methods, get the soldiers to sit on this boarder and make sure no indignant fuck dares cross that Bowtie line and take an inch for The Rats. This is OURS

Do not ask The Queen about The Fortress, the whole mandate will go better if we orchestrate this as The Will of The Church and deal with our own damned problems.

I elect Bowties preform this:
Tech: Research advanced architecture and construction.
Action: Begin construction of Ratbane, The Great Fortress of The North and Headquarters to The Inquisition.

Burn the objectors.

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>>378137

So how does this sound for a turn.

Action: Mobilize EVERYONE alert the maidens and engineers, hastily build defenses and evacuate the noncombatants from the west. Use everything at our disposal to insure they cant get into the coppers lands and be ready for total war. While this is happening send a messenger to see if the legends are completely true, if not ask them what they're doing and mention the sea witch.

Tech: Implement medics into the armys that know flesh bending. Their job is to try and avoid combat and try to heal maimed and injured soldiers during a battle.

Also, lets not take the sea witch on her offer unless were absolutely desperate. I wouldnt be surprised if the giants have some magical artifact she wants.

>>378217
I like how we're all fairly certain The Mermaid is an artifact gold digger.

>>378217
As an additional bit, i would ask the orc too about them, they are the giant force that they've been fighting right?

>>378488
They got crushed by the giants, all that seems to be left are women and children with maybe very few men left.

>>378495
You should probably offer them sanctuary if that's the case.

>>378495
They may be hiding at the forests as a form of guerilla warfare, i also suggest we start pumping war techs next turn

>>378502
I think theirs legitimately almost no orc soldiers left. All the scouts we've sent showed camps with very few women and children with no men, the latest scout we sent showed all the camps empty save for the orcs that are fleeing.

>>378519
well from our orc hostage she said the reason why they weren't home was because they were fighting, maybe we can ask opee about the situation on the west? I do agree with our current action to bolster defence right now though from the west, maybe ask help from bowties/suns later on while improving many battle tactics per turn but the problem is would those suffice against the giants? we have to think of our moves carefully cause we can easily get fucked fast

>>378839
I feel as if were going to need to rely on seige weaponry the engineers have since their giants that seem to be clad in full plate. Suns and trees already know about them too, not sure about the bowties. Theres also that there going to be on us most likely next turn as they've already seem to have defeated the orcs in the west and are marching on us. In general we seem to be pretty fucked if the other nations dont help out and they are actually hostile to us. Since they managed to so thoroughly kick the orcs shit in.

>>378919
As far as I know Bowties haven't been told.

>>378919
so let's first see what we have

loli witch nurses can help us with blood magic and medicine, the engineers can use their siege weaponry and steam machines (we can make this mobile bombs) while our cavalry can act as scouts and use a hit and run tactic

I believe we should ask the help of orcs for their strength, suns are more of a logistical power right now though their animal power will help a lot, the bowties have advanced weaponry, which is they still dont know, we can just rely via the sun embassy

I doubt we're gonna be able to do this easily though, we have to know why they disappeared eons ago, more information about them, I suggest we try to develop some kind of elite scouting unit? would that help with our scout rolls? is it possible for the suns to hypnotize fishes and eavesdrop on the merqueen??

>>377545
Tech: upgrade magic ability

Action: talk to the elves about what they know of the giants, why they left, and what their relationship to the sea witch was.

If we can have that as a free action then
Action: begin grooming large trees to grow to immense proportions that can be uprooted in dire situations.

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>>378217
>Tech: Implement medics into the armys that know flesh bending. Their job is to try and avoid combat and try to heal maimed and injured soldiers during a battle.

Thats not how tech works.. Thats like an action..

I think we should make a like a wind lance ballista

>>378217
Having blood priests mixed with the military is probably a culture thing.
Also medical bonuses like that likely won't get you any pop bonuses because so far war deaths haven't resulted in pop reducing.

You should improve your fishing output for your river for bonus food if you want more pop

o shit, im back.
also this is totally the mermaids plan to enslave us all just saying...

>>380354
well what must we do?

Also welcome back bby

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>>377945
let's shed our clothing in a total heterosexual way like the realm we are.

>>380379
so, our turn:
- shamans engage in zealous prayers once again to further develop magic, but naked in order to fully expose themselves to the sun's shining lights
- female shamans look for ways to improve our physical form through their healing magics and alchemy

Embassy:
Ask other civs about what they think of the mermaid's words

>>380357
what tech do you think we should think of to defend from the giants? since they waged war against each other maybe we can pit them against each other again? we really need more info

>>380494
Lets just carry on with our cars/bombs on wheels

We need steering

>>380499
Alright, and I think the loli nurses will automatically help us as medics in our action move

Action: Establish a state of emergency in Copper lands that will create a unified defence of the 3 main divisions on the west ready for war, send non combatants away from the west, and messengers for information gathering

Action: create a way to steer the steam cars (BANZAIIIII)

are we okay with this? >>380357
>>378519

>>380507
well it would be

Action: Establish a state of emergency in Copper lands that will create a unified defence of the 3 main divisions on the west ready for war, send non combatants away from the west, and messengers to each of the nations including the tree scum

Tech: create a way to steer the steam cars. If they can be steered already maybe make a suspension with springs and shieet

>>380515
what use will the suspensions be? assuming we use a lot of the steam cars, we might be better off investing in mining to get coal and explosives

>>380522
We alrady have coal hence steel.
>>380278
I was banking on medics to not increase our pop but instead increase our troop quality bonus in fights.

>>380522
Well if we had suspension we can go offroad in a bit

>>380530
>>380531
hm alright if you say so

can anyone explain to me what the mermaid did in the tribe civ so i can gauge how untrustworthy she is?

>>380535
She sunk the island we lived in after she said the dragon was the true danger. But she used the dragons power.
>>380515
My votes still for implementing medics.

>>380539
so how did everyone survive

so what you're proposing is tech: use loli witches to turn soldiers into SUPER SOLDIERS maybe DOMINATOR TIER SOLDIERS??? (kidding)

>>380545
We had some prep time because we got warned by a wizard so we made boats albeit everyone had pretty shit boats.

My plan was that they would save a soldier from fatal injuries and heal maimed ones so they can get back into th fight. That way they can fight harder.

>>380553
But you don't realise that thats a fucking action

>>380480
>>377545

>>380557
We could implement it as a culture if you vote for it. Theres not many mages in the armys save for felfire users I assume. This way everyone will have their uses in the upcoming battles.

>>380564
don't they already count for the state of emergency/war council?

>>380571
As far as I know the witching child is just their in castle on maiden island. What I want is the people she teaches actively take part in battles by being medic that regen fatal wounds.

>>380564
We can only do Action and Tech

-Trees have action and action
-Suns have action and culture
-We have action and tech
-Bowties have action and tech

Thats our cultural bonus

Wake up man

>>380583
its just that for me, what's the use of an overarching general action turn if we don't include the witches in as well

>>380591
I mean, they would be included. Assuming they decide to come. I just question the effectiveness of steam buggies.
>>380590
We didn't do a tech last turn friend, we did a culture and a action.

>>380598
I think magic is sorta like tech

I mean culture can't mean magic and neither can action
Because this is a civ we talking about
We hold a festival or start a religion to get a new spell

>>377647
Agree

>>380603
i doubt anything will happen if we try to research more magic, opee did say that it would develop over time since theres interest in it

>>380607
Exactly
We should leave the magic be
and advance our death machines.
We could have tanks soon we focused

>>380603
I suppose it could be a little of both, I've always lumped tech as working on tolls, machines, medicine.

I've always put magic as culture because of the things needed to do it. Like the suns self immolating. Last turn didn't work because of useless blood and that we seem to have hit a softcap on magic so now we wait for the witching child.

>>380615
assuming the explosive suicide cars dont work and we can't work on magic, what do you think would work? we need to either invest in weaponry or army, we can't win with our current state right now

*of course mermaids are always at the back of the head

>>380632
Yeah.. I really doubt it would be effective to blow up steam cars against armoured giants.

I just wanted to make magic more common in the army not get the next tier. We could start making horse drawn chariots, just stick a ballista on the back of one or some archers. Or go balls to the wall with training and start producing the best equipment for the armys to make new shock troops.

>>380645
if ever we find their weakness we can launch it using the cars, whatever it is.

also free turn, communication with bowties about the situation and ask help from the other clans. also ask the suns if they can possess fishes to eavesdrop with the merqueen to maybe get info? is that oaky sunbros?

>>380662
Sea witch during tribal years saw through the possession right away so I dunno how successful would the spying be

>>380662
I think we can only talk with the suns using the embassy, they already know about them so the suns should be able to tell the bowties about them which their doing right now I think.

If you guys are intent on getting steering for the steam cars you should include how it'll be used in battle also. Like attaching a ballista to it.

>>380672
that's a shame

>>380674
lets just include the witches in our first action and yes, lets include mounting weapons into the steam cars, thats good

Is it to late to join and if not what are the rules?

>>377545
action: Establish a state of emergency in Copper lands that will create a unified defence of the 3 main divisions including notable figures such as the witch on the west ready for war, send non combatants away from the west, and messengers to everyone including the trees for information gathering about the dominators of yoke

Tech: greatly improve the stability and steering of steam cars while equipping it with weapons such as the ballista improving it for combat, if it already can be steered, add a pulley system instead that will act as a suspension to decrease the burden on the wheels and steam machine

>>380716
read the OP post and the clans, although right now theres a lot of people playing per clan

>>380716
Might as well join to

>>380723
So its agreed were telling the sea witch to fuck off right?
>>380716
>>380727
You guys need a recap of what the nations are?

>>380730
can we not answer her first? its gonna be hard to make promises as of now

>>380716
How about a society of reptiles and fishmen a dragon King fish pepole nagas traditional lizard men some human concubines and some dragonborn

>>380730
Sure

>>380751
?

>>380730
I say we still do this >>377874

>>380799
Yes I see it now, that random drunkard gets disemboweled by fishmen while the real delegation comes a little later.

>>380887
Exactly

>>380559
sounds good!

>>380893
But really though, she wouldn't do that and if we take her help she'll put into motion some convoluted plan that fucks everyone over.

>>380900
But she'll be our cum dumpster

>>380900
But seriously
Its just a prank bro
I want to see her response..

But if no other nation helps us we should take the deal

>>380912
Lets wait until the fighting happens, I'd only take it if we have literally no choice left. Odds are the bowtie queen is planning something too. So we've got that also.

>>380918
But she doesn't know the masters have returned

>>380918
I dunno, mate.
She's pretty occupied with her Shotas.
I think her plan is just to beat the shit out of The Mermaid when she sees her.

>>380921
Were sending out messengers also in our first action. Suns are also going around to see whats up. It depends also if the legends are bullshit also. So we dont know yet if the giants will attack immediately or will negotiate.

>>377545

Since I don't really see any objectors popping up, this is Bowtie's Turn:
>>378137

>>381056
i support it yeah

Im going to make da turn goys

>>377545

Action: Mobilize EVERYONE alert the maidens and engineers, hastily build defenses and evacuate the noncombatants from the west. Use everything at our disposal to insure they cant get into the coppers lands and be ready for total war. While this is happening send a messenger to see if the legends are completely true, if not ask them what they're doing and mention the sea witch.

Tech: Improve our cars with steering. So we can actually drive. If they already have steering.. then make a suspension system with strings and shit

Also add this in for the memes >>377874 since its like a free.

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here I am lets get to it

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>>381343
>Sailor found gutted like fish

>>381343
>>380723
To prevent confusion this is what the majority agreed on for out turn.

>>381380
Same thing basically

>>381386
It goes into greater detail, its not as vague as what you linked.

>>381403
>Vague
Both are pretty vague since the one linked has multiple upgrades on the vehicle such as weapons, stability and steering

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>>381343
Im so glad she found a new apprentice

>>381406
Which is what a majority agreed on in the case it already has steering and if so the path we want to take it on and how it'll be used in battle. If Opee wants to put less then thats how it is.

Meanwhile you posted your own turn again when we already linked one.

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turn 14 end!
After the scouting reports, the copper nations united their forces to establish defenses east of their territory.
The giants are now visible at the horizon, coming ever so slowly towards them. People start to panic as even the witches have no idea how to defeat such formidable beings.
Only three of them have been seen for now.

The engineers developed a steering mechanism for their cars, so that they can be used on the field. However driving those engines off the roads is out of question, the roads being bumpy enough as is.
They also mounted ballistas on them.

The Sea Queen has been ignored by all but an unfortunate old man. Seas have been extremely dangerous lately, and many sailors died.

>>381431
Question Opee, around how big are these things?

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>>381343

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>>381451
bout tree fiddy yards

>>381485
Oh shit bois.
They're as big as an X-Box

>>381485
They look like those guys from the Banner Saga,
only bigger

>>381485
O shit, were gonna need bigger guns to win this.

>>381491
We need Gnomes
Only they can defeat The Giants

>>381485
those things are xbox huge. how are we ever gonna win to this?

>>381505
Hear me out
Giant pits
With Giant Spikes

>>381464
SUCH IS LIFE IN COPPANIA
:^)

But on a serious note we have the largest amount of players

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>>381431
The elven council went at work with magic and managed to discover a new spell!

earth magic tier 5: vines!
large vines sprout from the ground to lash and grab enemies under the caster's total control. The ground must be at least a little fertile.

The Elves never were in contact with the Dominators, living secluded on their island for eons. But they can retell the people the lore of their ancestors:
A very long time ago, the Tree tribe were servants of the Dominator of the Hunt, Ifris. This demon took most of the game for himself to feast and revel in his grand debaucheries. But he was also cunning, and kept an eye on his every living possession. None could escape his law.
Until one day, a spirit of freedom scared the fiend away from his throne, leaving some of his people enough time to flee unseen. These people are the founder of Elfland as it is now.
Well, the human part of Elfland at least.


The rebels are training with the golden maiden's new equipment, and turning their militia into a proper army. It's not quite enough to fight the loyalists head on, but it scared the rat raiders away.

A long time as passed since the last military action between factions, a few skirmishes here and there from time to time reminds everyone a war is going on. At this rate the two rival factions will turn into two separate nations for good.

>>381464
someone understands my pain.

>>381533
Should made the engineers secede :^) Then Warlord could shill his agenda as much as possible

>>381544
>Implying whatever agenda The Warlords have is any more shilling than Engineer Rome

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>>381533
we bowties and sunbros understand and share your pain

>>381547
True (I gave up on the rome bit)
But without the engineer shilling to balance it out. There would be no rewrites of actions and stuff

It would be clean and simple

>>381553
I'm fairly certain more conflicting ideas would cause more rewrites.
I'm not trying to stamp on civ philosophies or anything, but that's just logic.

>>381561
No Im saying
With the engineers forming another nation that There would be two clean action sheets

Instead of a fucked beyond space one for us all

>>381568
Well yeah, but if that would be the case then Rebels and Trees should separate as well, and that would give Opee six nations process turns for instead of four.

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>>381526
The classical shamans have decided to spend their life nude at last, like their ancestors once did. After an initial cultural shock it has rapidly been accepted. After all, the wrestlers fight naked in the holy days and those leather shamans look worse than naked.

The female shamans found a way to improve their physical appearance with wrinkle-removing balms and creams! They also found the painkilling drugs could be used in combat but it dulls the senses of the user, so it's not exactly making them stronger.

The other nations replied that they ignored the Sea Queen entirely to address more urging matters. The Bowtie Queen wasn't informed of it and thanked the shamans for the info.
The shamans saw no reason to do anything regarding the Sea Queen either. The sea was particularly tormented, which hurt the fishing exploitations a lot.

>>381568
Eh, thats how it is. All the clans have agendas, we have diffrent ideas. I quite like the coppers even though its a freeway car crash of a mess.

But seperating would just put you at a disadvantage considering how everything dangerous apparently lives next to us.

>>381580
Well we would be allies
And I can just push my steampunk agenda of tanks and shit so we can have advanced weapons

>>381526
Hey Opee, could we get a map of the rebel held areas in treeland, just to see how much land we would need to take back.?

>>381586
Then it would progress 3 times as slow as said by opee. Meanwhile I and the maidens soar past you in tech. Besides, it's clear you just want sole control of a nation.

>>381602
Will who doesn't tbqh fàm
That's what shilling an agenda basically is

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>>381578
The Queen remained silent. Deeply hurt by the lack of recognition his victory got, the Marquis used his powers as governor of the north to get every able man to build the most formidable fortress Bowties have ever seen since the Ironclads, Ratbane.

The Marquis also abused the Queen's blessing to lead her inquisitors to force them to move headquarters to his newly founded fort. Many protested but none could question the holy mission bestowed upon the lord.
The inquisition is highly hindered in her everyday activities now, and few heretics are brought as sacrifice to the Queen, if any.

The Queen left her palace, once. She wanted to visit the fort and know if any weird activities had happened near the sea. She was upset and disappointed about how her Inquisitors were used, but she did not give any counter-orders.

turn 15 start!

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>>381578
sweet
naked
victory

>>381617
If she wants a hand in the acts of soldiers, she'll come sit in our towers and know the sound of metal soaring at us from crossed the boarder just like we do.

Until then she can settle for whatever heretical rats we send, it'll be better for the local ratlings if we weed out the disloyal as is. It shall help them understand our faith all the better when there are no objectors.

Until then she can sit in her home and wait for us to come back victorious. If she has any objections she'll find that her boy certainly wont be half as happy with her if his kin's head ends up upon a pike.

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recap anchor post

So, ideas people. How are we going to defeat skyscraper sized armour clad giants?

>>381617
Hey Opee, If you are still around could you make a map of the rebel held areas in treeland?

>>381656
We could build a massive ballista.. With a windlance mechanism.
It would fire a Bolt the size of a man.. Armour piercing

We need to finish this war.
It's been long enough that The Rats have been a pain to us, and now that we've broken their morale we've been able to stand as a force to be reckoned with.

No matter if they throw cannons at us, or guns, or as many rats as it takes to carpet those mighty hills until the very earth seems black, they shall not drive us back.

They can look upon the hills the once called their own and see Ratbane to know all well how much their cannons mean to real soldiers.

At this moment right now I can tell they're taking into desperation. Every time we hit them they shall regroup and remass their boys into formation until we're fighting women and children, then their risen again bones, then the wizards that arose them, then the guards that hold their capital all the same.

This is no longer a war for powder, but instead a war for ourselves.

I elect we take to more demanding means of combat. They'll be a war-like society if left to their own devices by the time we assault again.

If The Queen will not Reinforce us, then we will man the troops we have.

Here's what we have going for us in Ratbane:
-Inquisition is here to root out disloyal rats and send them to The Queen
-Rats are good diggers, and we own some settlements here.
-Fort Ratbane is, or is at least close to the best fort in The Kingdom

Proposition:
Tech: Train in wide group tactics that involve the enlistment of loyalist rats to help keep our lines from getting blown away by cannons in mass.
Action: Conquer further into Ratlands. We shall Mount the heads of dead necromancers from The Battle of Ratbane on pikes to light ablaze.

We gave them the chance to surrender once, let's give them a strong insistence to change their minds in the subject.

>>381693
Thats an idea, we could maybe even make more than one possiblyignite the projectiles with felfire also. Maybe we could make felfire bombs also, we could launch bundles of metal spikes and other things out of catapults to pepper them and maybe act as cantrops to slow them dow.

>>381712
Those would have to be some fuckung big caltrops
Also get the orcs to man giant spears

Also we need strong big chains. We can do what the rebels did to AT-ATs

>>381775
The orcs are gone man, they just ran. Not even towards us, just away from where their heading.

How are we going to topple them? Grappling hooks would bounce off their armour and one fired from a ballista would just get pulled out from the ground and anyone near by will get their shit slapped. We dont have time to make a massive trap, yet alone one that can hold 3 of them.

>>381779
Our cavalry can haul a long ass chain and circle the Giants with chain and then ride away as the giant topples

>>381779
Or we could just fight and die
The the civilians commit sudoku

>>381785
Yes but you must entrust that the horses are heavy enough to not be thrown aloft when The Chains bind them.

Imagine jewelry chains trying to bind a man.

You would do better to launch pots of flaming oil at them from your siege machines.

>>381785
The flaw is how will we attach the chain. It'll take luck to get it into a joint and will have to be fairly close. Then they get squished.
>>381791
That what I envisioned when thinking of launching bundles of spikes covered in felfire, oil aould be damm usefull for this if we had it.

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>>381791
But they are literally fully armoured
The Fire would be so mediocre

We basically only have the ballista idea which does significant dmg

>>381796
Pots would work better. The splash is what will really will get them.

>>381799
Having your armor be on fire is still going to ruin you.

If example needed, put pot on lit stove then touch the bottom of the pot.

>>381799
Alright heres another idea, melee is sucide against these things, just give EVERYONE bows and crossbows. Eventually we might get their eyes.
>>381805
As far as I know felfire cant be contained like that but us part of a material like for example a flaming sword.

>>381811
Just invent oil this turn and set it on fire.
You don't really need felfire.

>>381805
We would need a massive fucking fire.
We would need the oil or shit to sorta stick to the armour so it heats up

Literally if we throw fireballs it's just gonna bounce off and they so small compared to the Giants it's like being thrown with smallish tennis balls that are on fire...

>>381817
Oil will stick to armor, especially if it's on fire.

Not to mention if you're really intent on making a giant Ballista you can probably do both this turn if you do tech & tech

>>381816
>Invent Crude oil
As far as I know we dont even have the materials to make fire bombs like sulphur and such.

>>381828
Burning oil is made from animal fat.

>>381831
Alright then thats another idea, we could launch large jars of the stuff at them. Hopefully they cant resist fire.

>>381705
I support these turns. Lets full on turn into the Dark Army we where always meant to be.

>>381951
And once we take Cannons for ourselves
We'll be some of the great giant slayers.

>>381956
Ones we've defeated the giants well invade them aswell and turn them into our citicens, as it should be. I can already envision the mighty towers of fort Giantsbane

>>381963
Such big dreams.
Never lose them.

>>381641
We might not be able to face the loyalists head on yet. We need a general or figurehead for our army. I propose we promote one of the female Elves to be both of these things.

Here's what I think our actions should be.
Action: Find our most talented, confident and cutest Elf to be our leader, then groom them to be our greatest asset.
If we have a strong leader, people will flock, even the males of the loyalists! We'll call our leader our 'Lady Protector'.
Action: With help from our Boar Priestess, begin conducting more raids against the loyalist trade routes and patrols. By having the boars as our mounts, we can strike in and out, guerilla style. Since trees give us a good ambush point as well, if they're moving within the forests, opt to ambushing them from above in the branches since boars are less maneuverable when there's a lot of trees.

What are the current populations and what is each nation up to?

>>382078
Bowties: 107k
Suns: 95k
Trees: 109k
Coppers: 104k

Bowties: Conquering Rat Land
Suns: Re-Perfecting their Magic Skills
Trees: In the middle of a matriarchal revolution
Coppers: Preparing to combat Giants

>>382124
I meant how many people where posting for each nation and what sort of things I can expect each nation to be doing

>>382157
About 4 coppers, 2 bowties, 2 trees, and 2 suns that are still active.

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>>382124
What is the situation?

>>382194
Woah
That's Heresy
Not full blown Infidel
But certainly Heresy

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>>382202
Are you going to give me vital information or do I need to scroll?

>>382194
Anyway, the situation is this
We have Rats to our north that have gunpowder, and we do not.

We've decided to go to war with them and take them over so we can double our landmass and take black powder for ourselves.

We've been making military advancements like mad, and what's happened so far is the guy leading the attack won one battle, then the queen came and said he did a good job.

Then we helped build a wall with Sun Bros for a while, but while we were doing that The Rats were improving their defenses along the boarder.

We pulled off a lucky as all hell combat roll and stomped the shit out the rats. immediately after we built a massive fortress named Ratbane on the boarder, and The Queen went home to fuck shotas. She's been real quiet.

We have a holy inquisition, which is a bunch of fire magic wielding guys that have had their base moved to Ratbane so they can be front and center helping the war effort at all times.

This turn is as suggested here:
>>381705

Since we need reinforcements we've decided to start incorporating loyalist rats into our military because The Queen is refusing to acknowledge us much and actually send real soldiers to the front lines.

If we let The Rats sit for too long they will remake a cannon line and have another wall of fortifications to break that we'll need a new lucky roll to break. So we also stated we were going to go ahead and attack now.

Any ideas that pop up feel free to voice 'em, because we need to conquer Rat Land before The Giants stomp over to our side of the world.

>>382220
What we really need is to intice bowtie sympathies within rat civilization. See what kind of internal morale damage the existing rat loyalists can stir up inside their cities.

>>382238
I think the Morale of The Rats is pretty low right now. Just last turn they suffered the greatest loss the game has ever seen, and every fight before that has been either a loss on their part, or one time they actually failed so hard they didn't even get to the combat before they lost.

I think what we really need is for them to be pushed towards surrender.

Maybe we can try and get Loyal Rats to tell about how life is better under Bowtie rule.

>>382250
How many players do the bow ties have

>>382260
3 I think

>>382250
You know what'd be funny. Selling rats pain supressing drugs and see how they fight with it.

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>>382250
That is what I meant. Sorry I'd my longtieness makes it hard to understand. >>382266
Shut up Awsats

>>382266
They'd probably be put in a coma considering it makes humans sluggish. Or it might be on the level of opium and just destroy them.

>>382270
Who os this awsats you speak of

>>382261
I am the grand tailor a rat who inherited the title from the previous tailor. The grand tailor is the one who made all the bow ties and as such has all large political sway. This good?

>>382266
Well if it makes them drowsy then it would be great.
If it doesn't though, it would likely make them keep fighting passed the point of no return and they'd die after the battle.

>>382270
Sun Bros are cool, fuck out with that

>>382276
I assume we got lots of Official Bowtiesmen.
You're probably the bowtie maker for The North if you're a rat, they're the only place with rats.
The North is where all the cool stuff is happening anyway, welcome.

>>382274
Asshole
Who
Stared
At
The
Sun
Awsats

>>382284
Ah yes, you left out the tl part so i was confused and began hunting for a doppeplganger

>>382281
Thank you mistress I will serve well if not I am worth nothing

>>382281
Sorry, it's just a bad way to fight a war. Who knows what it'll do to the rats.

>>382292
Doppleasshole

>>382298
Yeah
The only drugs that are good for wars are the ones used by people that are losing.
And usually that's like, cocaine.

>>382292
Oh, Awsatstl doesn't roll of the tongue quit as smoothly.

>>382270
Your ties! They are not as beatful as the bow ties but so serious and stiff! Perfect for a knight!

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>>382309
You like? Takes real discipline to tie it differently every day.

>>382317
We can make a holy order of Knights with long ties! They can be the queens sword like how the priest are her words! And you,you can be the leader!

>>382322
Maybe we can start up an elite crusader knight group next turn called like The Longties.

It'll be a cultural action.

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>>382322
Your getting ahead of yourself I'm just a weirdo with a weird tie.

>>382303
As a former member of the rat kingdom this true the nobles inhale immense amounts of cocain when stressed

>>382328
We all are that's what makes us special but you can be even more important

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>>382326
Actually, that's not so bad, they treat tying their ties much like samurai treated taking tea. It's this whole ceremony. anyone can wear a longtie. But only a longtie knight can make it look good.

>>382334
They can even fight with
Longswords

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>>382337
Of course the first knot any squire learns is the balthus.

>>382334
The longer the tie the more important the knight

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>>382340
Which itself leads to more complex knots to hold it all.

>>382340
So a super uber badass would have tie that might touch the floor and a noob would only have a tie that is as long as
There shoulder

>>382345
They'll have to have special compartments to hold their ties just like how dwarves hold their bears.

You know, so they don't get it tripped over, or have it pulled.

Or Queen forbid have it damaged.

>>382350
During Combat of course.

>>382342
And when the tie gets cut in battle it's the squires job to stitch it together

>>382350
I-I think I just became a lord?

>>382350
No train them for situations like that in fact have that be major part of their training

>>382359
Titles are getting handed out fast as we expand northward.
Enjoy your burrow city of rats.

>>382359
Here's your new set of ties and a new squire 3 concubines and a wife